ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 3rd September 2020

Episode Date: September 2, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, welcome to the Fleeche Morning Megan podcast. It's thanks to McDonald's, your favorites are available in drive-thru and McDelivery. And Vaughn, you're at war with a rat. Yeah, I'm just actually, I'm just checking my security camera to see if there's been any rat-based motion. You might be thinking, Vaughn, madness, a rat wouldn't come out during daylight hours. Well, my friends, when I set the trap up last night, it was daylight hours. I went inside, I started getting notifications that there was motion detected. And it was indeed the cheeky little rat. So he was alive and standing there checking out the cheese when you sent that picture.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Yeah. I was nibbling at the cheese. Shouldn't he use peanut butter? That's a win for the rat. There was a snap trap. But he was pecking at the cheese. Listen, the live. Was that live?
Starting point is 00:00:46 Live from the paddock. The other trap's still open, so he hasn't gone in that and set that off. But the other one's one of the ones that the door shuts behind him. Okay. Or her. Oh, yes. Gender neutral trap, isn't it? Oh, it'll work if you've got a penis or a vagina, as far as I know.
Starting point is 00:01:03 A little rat penis. It must be a female, though, if it's outsmarting you. Did you like my tone? You have just, you know what you've just opened yourself up to? What are you calling? A photo when he finally catches it. Oh, even I thought that was going to happen anyway. He's going to send that regardless.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Oh, dear. He's sending a photo. Yeah, group chat. Can't see anything on that one. Group chat goes off. Photo received from Vaughn. I'm like, oh, what's this? It's another dead animal.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Yeah. Oh, I read the animal. It makes it sound like I'm out killing them all. Okay, no, no spotting of the rat. The chickens set off the snap trap, though. Bloody chickens wanted some cheese, didn't they? Do chickens eat cheese? Yeah, love it.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Get your chickens in the lake or something. I don't know how the chicken escaped. There should be footage of when it went off, but I couldn't see footage of the... Cheeky little bastard rat, though. How dare it. How absolutely dare. I'm going to stop now on the way home at my tent and get a new... I'm going to get multiple traps.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I would do that. I'd just go overboard with traps. Just how much are traps? A couple of bucks? One of those wooden ones with the spring and the old brass thing. They're cheap. But they're also like a rat can have a nibble on the cheese, just a little nibble and not set those off.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I need a much more punchy trap. Right. And I've got those air-powered ones, those gas-powered ones. They're rubbish. Never once have I had any action from them. Oh. Are they more for possums? Well, yeah, that works well on the possums I've heard,
Starting point is 00:02:27 but I've got the rat-sized ones. I might actually move those around to the new location for the rat, smear some cheesy peanut butter up the hole, and, of course, that'll lure a rat up a train pipe. That's always, yeah, smear the cheesy peanut butter up the hole. Oh, my God. And then the rat goes in for it, knocks a little needle, and Kapowski gets his head caved in.
Starting point is 00:02:51 So I might actually set one of those up as well. I mean, like you say, go overboard. What's the harm? I mean, a lot of harm to the rat. The ultimate harm. It's death, but we shan't have rats. Not where the Tuis are back. The Fanta, the Piwaka waka are back, welcoming themselves back.
Starting point is 00:03:06 The ketidu season's coming in. I shan't be having rats messing with my native birds. I shan't have it. I shan't. Anyway, that's what I'm off to do. Bye-bye. ZM. Head music lives here.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Fleeche Fauna Megan, the podcast. Welcome to the show, Fleeche Fauna Megan. Well, we've had to do some follow-up after hearing that news story about David Blaine holding onto helium balloons and floating into the sky. Wearing a harness. We appreciate that they were all multicoloured too. It was very pretty. He predominantly pink though, the helium balloons.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Okay. Wearing a harness and he held 52 helium-filled balloons and he reached above his projected altitude of 18,000 feet. How did he get down? He had a pin. He had a pin. He just popped one at a time. That's 5.4 kilometres high.
Starting point is 00:03:56 How did he breathe? He must have had a parachute, right? He must have had a parachute hidden under there. How high is Everest? 8 k's above sea level. Right. So he wasn't like Everest height, but he must have started a parachute hidden under there. How high is Everest? 8 k's above sea level. Right. So he wasn't like Everest height, but he must have started from a height. Though the Arizona desert wouldn't be at sea level, would it?
Starting point is 00:04:12 He pulled a cord and began his skydive back to Earth. He successfully pulled his parachute, then hit the ground running with a chair. He was welcomed back by his young daughter who said, you did it. With a chair. Oh, a chair. Oh, I thought he sat down on the chair. He ran and then he sat. He took like a... Hooray!
Starting point is 00:04:30 He tied the balloons to a chair so they could sit down. A chair, yeah. A chair like a hooray. Like chairs. Okay, right. His daughter's watching. He must have been pretty confident that nothing bad would happen. Imagine seeing your dad
Starting point is 00:04:44 plummet to earth. At the deck. I don't want to body shame him, His daughter's watching. He must have been pretty confident that nothing bad would happen. Yeah, imagine seeing your dad. Oh, he's plummeting. Hit the deck. I don't want to body shame him, but he's a bigger lad than he used to be. Oh, okay. He used to do the street tricks. He was quite, like, skinny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:56 He's not skinny. We've all been through lockdown. No, but if you're going to get, you don't want to get your 50 helium balloons filled up and stand there and they're not lifting you and be like, oh, two more. This is... Did you do your post-lockdown weight? Keep going, keep going, keep going with it. Keep going, another balloon,
Starting point is 00:05:12 another balloon. Oh yeah, there he goes. Coming up on the show, the top six and bad news for Hamilton. Sad news. Yeah, the sevens are being delayed.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Yeah, so no sevens next year. No, no sevens. Which means that now there's some time to spare in Hamilton. I've got the top six other things you can do in Hamilton. As soon as the sevens aren't happening. Okay. Also coming up on the show. A wife has discovered that her husband's cheating,
Starting point is 00:05:39 but not in the usual way. Oh, Vaughn's got a video. Just showing David Blaine when he's hanging above the... Oh, no way. Oh, my God, that's so many balloons. It's just like up. No way. How? No, no.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I don't think it's that great. There's nothing magical about it. But he's harnessed in, right? And he's got a parachute. Yeah. So... I mean, and those balloons, they would have tested those balloons.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I don't mean to be cynical, but... It's not magic. It's not magic. It's not magic. He does have an oxygen mask when he got right to the top. Wow. Hey, guess what you can see from up there? The curvature of the earth.
Starting point is 00:06:18 It must be fake. Must be fake because we all know it's flat. Flesh, fauna, Megan. The podcast. ZM. A woman has found out her husband-to-be was cheating on her in a very odd way. And it took her a few years after they broke up to find out. But, so, okay, let's give it context. They were together.
Starting point is 00:06:41 They were, so far down the road, they were engaged and planning their wedding. Okay. So, were they official? Okay, let's give it context. They were together. They were, so far down the road, they were engaged and planning their wedding. Okay. So were they official? Did they ever actually have that official conversation? Like, we're official now? I don't know. You're engaged, I'd say so.
Starting point is 00:06:58 They're facetious. She said that she, so everything was going swimmingly. And then like one day he came home and was like, I'm not feeling it. She could sense something was wrong and they ended up breaking up. But it was out of the blue. Even his family were like, what happened? Right.
Starting point is 00:07:16 So bizarre. And she went three years suspecting he'd maybe cheated, but not knowing anything. There was no indicators whatsoever. So three years later, she knew for sure, and she found out in a New York Times wedding announcement detailing his love story with his wife, Lauren. So basically, they detailed that they'd been together while they were in need together. So the time, like, oh, they've been together 10 years or whatever, and she's like, oh, heck.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Yeah. How much of an overlap was there? I don't know. And who was first? Was the girl that got broken up with first, or was he with the other girl? No, the girl that got broken up was first. Right, because they were engaged.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Yeah. Right, okay. But there's definitely some overlap. Imagine finding that out in a newspaper, in the wedding section. Why would you, like, go into detail with it? Like, if you knew that she would potentially read it. Do you think the other girl knows? How long did you say?
Starting point is 00:08:18 Five years later. It was just getting... Three years later. Three years later, he got sloppy with his stories. That's so brutal. Yeah. So, yeah, a friend called her and was like, don't read it. But then when someone says don't read it.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Don't read it. Don't read it. The first thing you do. Don't read this article. Yeah. So, yeah, she read it and was obviously quite devastated. Even after three years, was like, oh, okay, that makes sense then. But at least you'd get that closure.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Because that sounds like one of those relationships that would end, you'd be like, why did that end? What did I do? It was fine, and then one day it wasn't. And how sweet three years later it would be like, huh, I was right. I was right all along. My suspicions were correct.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I'd just cut it out and send it to his family and be like, hmm. There you go. That's why. We're all confused, but now we know. Yeah, it's your son. 13 past six. He's why. We were all confused, but now we know. Yeah, it's your son. Thirteen past six. He's a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Next, I want to tell you there's some official rules now about influencers. Oh, okay. People on your SoshMed feeds that are doing sponsored posts, the rules about how they actually have to tell you that it is. ZM's Fletch Warner Megan, the podcast. There is the BSA. That's the Broadcasting Standards Authority. You might hear the odd ad on the radio.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Don't worry about them. Don't bother them. They're really busy. Don't bother them. Don't be a little bitch. Don't bother them. Well, you've given people reason now to bother them, Vaughan, but sure. Don't be a suck.
Starting point is 00:09:41 You little... No, anyway. We take advertising seriously. If you can't take a joke, whatever. But no, there's the BSA. That's the Broadcasting Standards Authority. And then there's the ASA. That's the Advertising Standards Authority.
Starting point is 00:09:54 And that's a different bunch of folks. But basically... Both as scary as each other. They set rules for advertising. And what an ad can look like. All sorts of ads. Basically, if it's an ad... They deal with it. They have an ad can look like. All sorts of ads. Basically, if it's an ad, they have to deal with the rules. You can't make wrong claims.
Starting point is 00:10:12 You can't say this has been medically proved. If it's not, that sort of stuff. That's why you don't see ads for crystals on television. Yeah, and Pete Evans, what was his COVID lamp? Yeah. Remember that COVID lamp? That's why you can't advertise these things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Because they're making claims that they can't back up. Well, an area that the ASA is pretty fresh on, but they've got some new hard and fast rules, is influencing. And probably the form of advertising that a lot of people are ingesting. Yeah. Well, there's some new rules
Starting point is 00:10:40 in their long-awaited document entitled Influencers, colon, making it clear that ads are ads. It's saying now that any, so if you are
Starting point is 00:10:53 given something and even if they're not like, I'm giving you this on the intent. You have to post about it. I will trade you this
Starting point is 00:11:02 drink bottle for you to tell everybody about this drink bottle. I don't want to tell everybody about that drink bottle. It's just an example. It looks manky. Previously, you might have just been like gifted. Right. And then people would be like, okay, they got it for free and they're telling me about it.
Starting point is 00:11:18 But they got it for free, so I've got to take that into account. Now you would have to write gifted ad. You can't just say gifted anymore. You have to say ad. Ad as well. Yeah. You've received something for promoting this product. Yes. There has been an exchange of value. They are giving you something
Starting point is 00:11:38 of value. You are giving them something of the value in the term of opening it up to your audience. This is because people have been doing this and people have been, what, not thinking it's an ad? So they're therefore more favourable to... They said that it is not always... The common user can't always identify an ad.
Starting point is 00:11:57 On TV, the ads are in the ad breaks. Yeah. So they're easily identifiable. Yeah. And on radio, the ads are in the ad breaks. Yeah. But it's not easily identifiable. Yeah. But, and in radio, the ads are in the ad breaks. Yeah. But not, it's not super identifiable otherwise. Because it becomes problematic if you're following someone of influence
Starting point is 00:12:13 and they're like, they love this product, and you believe them to genuinely maybe have bought it and be really into it when they could be being paid for it. And they're like, I'm using collagen and nothing, I've changed. Nothing else, look at me. And you're like, well, using collagen and nothing, I've changed. Nothing else, look at me. And you're like, well, it's working for them
Starting point is 00:12:27 but they've changed other stuff. Yeah, and when it comes down to it, they're just hot and they got paid money to do that. And they were hot before the collagen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:35 They just went a week without trying and took a photo and then a week trying and then took the photo. Right. So, Spawn or SP or Colab, they no longer tick the box.
Starting point is 00:12:48 It just has to say ad. Oh, this is going to be great. So if I see an influencer doing this, can I narc on them? Yes. Yes. Because you know this is what everyone's waiting for. I don't narc, but I do get very angry. There's some tall totem poles.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And you know what New Zealand is like with tall things. We need to lop those down. Take them down. So, payment can be any benefit to the influencer in exchange for distributing knowledge of that product. It could be money, free product or service, credit, events, tickets, travel, product lines. So, even if you got like a free ice cream,
Starting point is 00:13:21 you'd have to put ad. And you'd be like, mm-mm, ice cream. Now, if you paid for that ice cream. You wouldn't. You wouldn't have to. If you just really like the ice cream. Actually, I just want to tell you guys I love this ice cream. But then even if you pay.
Starting point is 00:13:35 But then I don't know what if they're like, hey, it's the ASA here. You didn't put ad. And you're like, well, I paid for it. Stick it up your ass. And they're like, hey, you can't say that. I'm going to tell the BSA and the BSA's like leave the ASA alone
Starting point is 00:13:47 and then the CSA comes in I don't even know what they do oh no the CAA the Civil Aviation Authority they come in and they're like everybody calm down because you didn't have
Starting point is 00:13:56 permission to land yeah and you are being mean to the BSA in turn being mean to the ASA and the ACC probably want to levy and I said don't if it gets this far through the alphabet it's KFC or the BSA, in turn being mean to the ASA. And the ACC probably want a levy.
Starting point is 00:14:05 And I said, if it gets as far through the alphabet as KFC or the NBA, we're in big trouble. Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast. ZM. Before, there's been a surprising uptick in tourism to the Chatham Islands. The Chathams. The Chathams. The Chathams, which in a straight line,
Starting point is 00:14:24 so I just Googled In a straight line From Auckland As the crow flies Yeah straight there 1,083km And if you look on a map It's like East
Starting point is 00:14:33 Or right of Christchurch Like way out Tiny dot It's always fascinated me The Chathams I've seen a couple Of country calendar episodes Out there
Starting point is 00:14:42 It just looks like Wild country Great diving I'm not a diver I don't episodes out there. It just looks like wild country. Great diving. I'm not a diver. I don't like being underwater. That is scally, scally, scally. So 2018 census, 600 and odd people, nearly 700 people live there. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Full time. And so people are travelling there. Because there are no restrictions and we want to travel somewhere. Yeah. It gets a shout out in the weather. Yeah, maybe that's why. Shout out in the weather. Let's go there.
Starting point is 00:15:12 When we were in like, when New Zealand was in level four, I guess they just didn't really have to go anywhere anyway. But do they have to adhere to that as well? I don't know actually. I don't even know if there's been any cases. Probably not. Because, yeah, probably not.
Starting point is 00:15:29 But then what if you were overseas and you know how everyone was coming home but your family were Chathams based? Yeah, well, I don't, because Air Chathams is in the story talking about
Starting point is 00:15:38 how it's been good for them. How long? What? It was a flight, too, because you said kilometres, but how long? Well, I don't know. It's 1,000 k's as well flying from Auckland to Dunedin.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And that's like an hour 45 on a jet. Yeah, I was going to say that too. And this rickety old plane. One flight per week. Yep. Two hours 15 duration. You leave at 2 o'clock and you get there at five o'clock. Now, is Chatham still 45 minutes ahead?
Starting point is 00:16:07 Remember they were rocking a different time zone for a while. They weren't. I told them to pull their heads in. Did you? I said, you are absolutely dreaming, Chatham. You get back in line. And they had a town meeting and they thought, well, Vaughan wants us to be like New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:16:19 That'd be right. Old Smithy, he's always... I don't know if it's a week-long destination, is it? I'd probably get bored after two days. Because how big, like, you can't run around the island, right? It's quite big. Well, it's a series. There's a few islands.
Starting point is 00:16:33 There's a bunch of them. It's an archipelago. Oh, I love that. I love that word, archipelago. Thank you, Vaughan. Archipelago. Which is a series of islands, if you didn't know. But yeah, just amazing seafood.
Starting point is 00:16:48 They export a lot of crayfish and stuff from there. Yeah, that was a thing. But yeah, I don't know if it's a week-long place. What have we got to do there? I'm just on their... What's on TripAdvisor? On TripAdvisor, you can go to the Admiral Gardens. That's got 15 reviews, and that's currently rocking a five out of five.
Starting point is 00:17:07 The Monganui Stone Cottage, which looks to be a historical building. That's got a straight five. You're really not winning me over so far with gardens and a stone cottage. What about rock formations? The Basalt Columns. All I got. Yeah, but they've only got a four and a half. There are obviously no Admiral Gardens.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Okay. There's obviously no Admiral Gardens. Okay. There's the Tommy Solomon Memorial. If I'm wrong, but I believe he was sort of identified as the final full-blooded Maori. Right. In the Chathams, there's a little statue there of Tommy. Yeah, right. There's a scenic reserve.
Starting point is 00:17:42 There's a spider. There's a spider. You guys see the spider? Oh, okay. The chat is cancelled. Megan's found the spider. I was back at night. ZM's Fletch Warner Megan, the podcast.
Starting point is 00:17:55 From the ZM think tank, this is the top six. Hello there. The Sevens and Hamilton have been postponed, but I just, I think it's fair to say they've been cancelled, right? Yeah. Because they'll just most likely be postponed till the year after, but they were going to happen that year anyway. Yeah, so that means cancelled for this year.
Starting point is 00:18:18 That means it's cancelled for 2021. Another COVID casualty. Yeah. And that means that Hamilton's like, well, you know, we've got some time.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah. So what do you guys want to do? They're itching for something to do. Having lived in Hamilton, you're always itching for
Starting point is 00:18:34 something to do. What should we do? Go to the gardens. And that's, yes. Well, you're from there. You might have ruined Vaughan's
Starting point is 00:18:40 list. Love the gardens. No, well, they do feature, but they feature on any time we mention Hamilton. I know, you love the gardens. No, well they do feature, but they feature on any time we mention Hamilton. I know, you love the gardens. Itching for somebody to probably let us on Boxing Day
Starting point is 00:18:50 in 2003 to go to the warehouse, buy some cheap blow-up boats and float down the Waikato River starting at the gardens. That's, I wouldn't recommend that. No. Many people didn't. Yeah, no. I don't think these days you would. No.
Starting point is 00:19:05 We saw a dead goat float past. Wow. It was a hell of an adventure, though. Yeah, right. It was a lot of fun. Hamilton. Ah, Hamilton. So the top six things to do in Hamilton with the sevens cancel.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Number six, the sixes. You whack sixes. It's like force back, but you whack it back. Yeah, right. And it's called the sixes. And you try force back, but you crack it back. Yeah, right. And it's called the sixes. And you try to like whack it back over the other person. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And you say socially distance. You're saying this should be a tournament or you just go with friends? Whatever you want. We can start it with friends, casually build it up to a tournament. Right. Because yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:38 we can't have a crowd, so the sixes. Okay. Our number five on the list of the top six things to do in Hamilton with the sevens cancelled, the fiveses. Okay. Number five on the list of the top six things to do in Hamilton with the sevens cancelled, the fiveses. That's where you drink
Starting point is 00:19:48 at five o'clock in the afternoon. I think that's just Hamilton, isn't it? Yep. You will have five drinks at five for five days in a row.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Okay. Support the local brewery. Again, I think that's just Hamilton. That is probably, now that I'm saying it out loud, it really does feel like that's just happening in Hamilton anyway.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Well done, Hamilton. You're taking the initiative. Number four on the list of the top six things to do in Hamilton but the sevens cancelled are the fours. Everyone dresses up as their favourite wiggle. Yeah. So you've got your blue, your red, your purple and your yellow and then you just go into the wild
Starting point is 00:20:22 and you've got to find the rest of your wiggles. Right. Do you know what I mean? So you go out dressed as a red wiggle, you've got to find a purple wiggle, a yellow wiggle and a blue wiggle. Yeah, okay. You better hope other people are participating.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Well, that's the thing. It'll be pre-organised to be on a special date because then you don't get close to anybody until you find it and then you just remain in your bubble of four and then you've met some close to anybody until you find it and then you just remain in your bubble of four and then you meet some new friends. Right, okay. Number three on the list of the top six
Starting point is 00:20:50 things to do in Hamilton with the sevens cancelled. You may be surprised to know number three is the threes. Now that's where three adults who love each other very much. I think you can fill in the rest. But maybe that's already happening in Hamilton because of all the fiveses.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I don't know. Number two on the list of the top six things to do in Hamilton with the sevens cancelled. Number two is the twos. That's where radio stations play two songs from the same artist in a row on a Tuesday. It's called Two for Tuesday. But we just go and do it in Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Right, okay. The twos. Yeah. And number one on the list of the top six things to do in Hamilton with the sevens cancelled is the ones. It's a mass proposal holiday. Keeps the bubble small. Yeah. Hamilton Gardens, I'm looking at you.
Starting point is 00:21:35 What a lovely place to be proposed to. As previously mentioned. Yes. Love Hamilton Gardens. What a spot. So you could do your little proposal holiday as well. There's some days, Hamilton. Those are yours now.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I'll step back and let you decide what to do with it. That is today's. I'm sure they're really stoked. They'll be jazzed. That is today's top six. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. ZM. Well, there's a level, what are they called?
Starting point is 00:21:58 A level five fire or something happening in South Auckland at the moment. In case you're wondering why there's plumes of smoke. Yeah. Lots of sirens. Is it in a car, Jan, by the looks of it? I can see camper vans at the front, but I don't know if it's in the camper vans or behind that part. The fire, F-E-N-Z, Fens, Fire Emergency New Zealand?
Starting point is 00:22:22 Hmm. They've said... Fire Engines New Zealand. Fire Engines New Zealand? Hmm. They've said... Fire Engines New Zealand. Fire Engines New Zealand spokes engine. Squirty the fire truck has said that the fire's 100 metres by 80 metres. Oh, and it's been bumped up to a fifth alarm blaze. That's what I mean. Out of how many alarms?
Starting point is 00:22:39 Well, I don't know. Before they were like, it was two and then it's three and it quickly became a fifth alarm blaze. Wow. Okay. That's not mucking around. Yeah, I'm just looking. Gee, it doesn't look.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Levels. Yeah, I think five is like the big daddy. That's when they have to get engines, squirty fire trucks in from other places. Yeah, right. All right. Well, if you're on a dating app, I've got a way of you to improve your chances. If you use an iPhone, this is a study out of the UK, you have a much higher rate of matching compared to Android users.
Starting point is 00:23:15 So if you're any kind of iPhone, it doesn't matter. It does not specify. They've found that using an iPhone will help you match with your person by almost 76%. That'll boost your chances that much. You don't know what phone someone's using on a dating app. I've looked through the study and I'm like, well, why? And it doesn't say why.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Is it just purely because more iPhone users are using the dating apps? I don't know. Or they're not geared to be better usage on iOS? No, I don't know. No, it's exactly the same, isn't it? It's still a swipe. It's still a like or a, you know, you're messaging the same. Is it because, no, because people don't really go to like, you don't send a number and then start texting, right?
Starting point is 00:24:04 You're just there. And then they see a green message and they're like, ooh, yuck, no, this isn't happening. Yeah, doesn't specify. But also if you're using AirPods and an Apple Watch, you're going to attract more people. 61% more chance of successful matches if someone owns an Apple Watch. What? I mean, that doesn't surprise me. That would turn me off
Starting point is 00:24:27 because I'd be like, hey, have you closed your rings today? You're like, oh, piss off. Oh, I've just been told stand up and move a little for one minute
Starting point is 00:24:33 or I'm not going to get to piss hours. You are such a punish with your watches. Yeah, imagine if that happened on a date. You'd be like,
Starting point is 00:24:40 oh. I'd be like, I've just got to go to the bathroom. Didn't you just go to the bathroom? Yeah, well,
Starting point is 00:24:44 that was for wheeze. This one's, I've just got to stand for a minute. Didn't you just go to the bathroom? Yeah, well, that was for Weez. This one's I've just got to stand for a minute. I'm going to close my rings. A minute this hour, yeah. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. I know I'm not the only one. Oh, you missed it. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:24:56 I'm sorry. I'm going to stop. I'm going to stop. Oh, my God. You're so dramatic. There's no need to be that dramatic. I'll start it again. Are you ready?
Starting point is 00:25:09 Three, two, one. I hope I'm not the only one. Beautiful. The Smith family voice there. It's in the genes. Singing, isn't it? It really is. We welcome to the show this morning.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Tom, how are you? Good. How are you guys? Good, good. Now, we always put the call out on Instagram and we ask, is there something that you do that maybe your friends think is weird or maybe you don't tell your friends? You think you're alone in this particular habit and your one stuck out.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Yeah, so, well, I don't think it's that weird, but I think I have a bit of logic behind it. So I have, like, I don't think it's that weird, but I think I've a bit of logic behind it. So I have, like, potato chips like Doritos or Grainwaves, but I have them with disposable gloves, so I don't get all the flavouring all between my fingers. Now, Doritos, I can understand.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Is that weird? Grainwaves have been a write-off for the last few years. They changed the recipe. I wouldn't go near them. Oh, yeah, Grainwaves have been cancelled, haven't they, after they changed the recipe? Well, I mean, it's different to me. I don't do that. But you like the flavour because you're eating the chips. Well, yeah, I like the flavour.
Starting point is 00:26:14 It's just like I don't like the mess of them. So, like, if I don't have the gloves on me, I'll, like, kind of, like, tweezer the chips out of the packet. You could use chopsticks. I've eaten cheese balls with chopsticks for a laugh once. That was quite challenging. Just slow yourself down so you just don't gobble the whole bag. Oh, I'm useless with chopsticks.
Starting point is 00:26:31 But what happens, so part of the fun of like eating those chippies is you get the like flavouring on your finger and then you lick it off at the end. Oh, yeah. Do you lick it off the gloves? No, I'll just throw the gloves out. But I just don't like that grimy, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:26:46 there's something about that greasy feeling between my fingers that just like irks me. But it's all the flavour. Because I don't look at it all and then at the end it's like a big cake on your finger. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Like favourite for later sort of thing. Yeah. Like if you're eating cheese balls or one of those kind of chips and your fingers are just orange. Yeah, it can get really cakey. Yeah, and cakey and it's like,
Starting point is 00:27:04 right in the ear. It's a bit more of it. Yeah, it can get really cakey. Yeah, and cakey and it's like... It's funny when your fingers are like... Right, because I've been knowing like if I'm getting full, say I'm eating, say for example, Doritos is a good example. The sweet Thai chilli is my fave. I'll just sometimes just lick the flavour off and just be like, meh. If I'm like done with the chips. What is wrong with you? If you're full, you'll just keep licking the flavour off and just be like, meh. If I'm like done with the chips. What is wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:27:27 If you're full, you'll just keep licking the flavour. Are you kidding? Wait, I'm the weird one? Tom wears gloves eating chips. Yeah, but let's say he doesn't waste them. Why don't you do that all the time? But just sometimes we're like, because sometimes I'll see,
Starting point is 00:27:43 if I'm full, I'll see a chip like a Dorito and you'll see you know when it's got heaps of flavouring you can almost see it's like a raised layer of flavouring I'll be like
Starting point is 00:27:50 I can't let that go to waste and I'll be like like I like it on the chips it's kind of like chip and dip with the flavour but it's just
Starting point is 00:27:58 when it's on your fingers I just think it's like a whole nother meal can't handle it you can't deal with it yeah it's just too much it kind of sets my whole deal. Okay, so we want to know now if Tom is alone
Starting point is 00:28:10 and eating chips using disposable gloves. Surely not. Because what about like, because some of those gloves have that powdery. Yeah, yeah, but that's to make them easier to put on. It's on the inside, okay. But don't you get sweaty in those gloves? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:29 All right, well, 0800-DARLS-IT-M, 9696. We want to see if Tom is the only one in New Zealand that does this. Do you eat chips with gloves or with a fork or chops? Just don't touch them. Because you don't like touching chips. I hope I'm not the only one. Ooh, that had a little something something. It did a little.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Well, he's a Smith. Had a little spice in it. Had a little, uh, joropito. Well, uh, we just heard from Tom moments ago who eats chips using disposable gloves. And so we want to find out if he's the only one in New Zealand that does this. So 0800DARLS.M if you can't handle touching the chip. Don't like the flavour on your fingers. Yeah, like maybe you have to use a device or you have to use disposable gloves just to eat chips.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Which, I mean, to me seems weird, but because I like you, Megan, I love the flavour. That's half the fun, the cake is on your fingers. And Sheila has called. Sheila, what's the deal? You can eat the chips with your fingers? Yes, I can. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I can, but I like to have a packet of baby wipes handy so that I can wipe them in between chips. In between? Wait, so you won't do like five or ten chips. You'll do each chip and then wipe? Not each chip, but probably every couple. I can't stand that icky, feels like crud all over your hands. What are you, what are you, lick it off?
Starting point is 00:30:01 Shelly, you're supposed to lick it. Yeah, your tongue is the baby wipe. No. No. No. That's part of the fun. In this situation, your
Starting point is 00:30:09 tongue can be a baby wipe, but no other situation. If there's no baby wipes handy, then it has to be wiped on
Starting point is 00:30:16 jeans. Oh, but that's the best part of it. Licking your fingers. It is. Sheila, thanks
Starting point is 00:30:23 for your call. Somebody else said, and I totally agree with the situation, that they don't like using their hands because it might stain their fingers. Like, you know, the orange chips can stain their fingers. That's not the part that I agree with because I've got no problem with finger staining. Oh, do you know what I got a real staining from the other day was those, what's that new American chip that's just come here, and it's like. Cheetos. Yes. Those are very stain heavy. Did's just come here? And it's like Cheetos.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Yes. Those are very stain heavy. Did you get Flaming Hot Cheetos? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, they're real good, eh? Real stainy situation. I know somebody said instead of that,
Starting point is 00:30:54 I'll just tip them into my mouth. Yeah. And when the bag's full, it's a little harder, but I use my face as a dam to stop it and my mouth is the release. So the only part that, you know. But then you're going to stain your face. But it doesn't hit as hard.
Starting point is 00:31:08 It's just lightly resting. See, cheese balls, you could run them down the packet into your mouth. That would be no problem. No, but the cheese balls would roll too easy at the full packet. You might have an overflow. Now, we did have someone call through to say that they use tongs. Mini tongs. Their partner uses mini tongs. They just have them handy
Starting point is 00:31:27 at all times. They must go to the drawer and get out their mini tongs. But what if you're eating chips on the go? Oh, I can't speak to where that is. Lena, good morning. Hey. Now, can you eat chips touching them? No. So I actually, whatever I touch, I won't eat. So like if I go to McDonald's, I just like, I'm that person with the like one centimetre of french fry left on the table. No.
Starting point is 00:32:05 What if No! Just in terms of like not wanting you to waste a fry what if you just like bit them out of the packet and didn't touch them?
Starting point is 00:32:12 Oh yeah. Oh. So if I'm driving I like kind of like shuffle around the carton like McDonald's and just kind of like pour it into my mouth.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Yeah that's called that's called the tradie tip. When you've got when you've got dirty hands when you're a tradie you've got to tip everything into your mouth. Because you're a plumber and you've got like poos into my mouth. Yeah, that's called the tradie tip. When you've got dirty hands, when you're a tradie, you've got to tip everything into your mouth. Because you're a plumber and you've got like poos on your hand. What about if you were eating a burger, do you use the like the wrapper or the box? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Yeah. Wow. Or I get the, what is it called? The serviettes. And I turn the serviette inside out because someone else would have touched the outside. Oh, wow. And then I put it onto my burger, and I flick my burger onto it, wrap it around,
Starting point is 00:32:49 and she's good to go. How have you been finding 2020, the year of the COVID, Lena? Are you just not leaving the house? Well, it was my work. I wasn't allowed to at first. Right. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:04 But what about, like, the chips? How do you't allowed to at first. Right. Yeah. Okay. But what about like the chips? How do you eat those? Oh, my goodness. So sometimes if I'm really hungry, what I do is crunch up the whole package into crumbs and then just pour it in. So you're not the only one that does that. If you'd called in saying, am I the only one that,
Starting point is 00:33:21 because we've had three people text message in. A couple of people went through phases of it. Yeah, I used to do it for fun. Open the tiny corner of the thing so you can see the air and then you just crush them all. Tip them through the hole in here. Because I love the last bit of the bag when it's all crumbs. Well, you can make the whole thing the last bit of the bag.
Starting point is 00:33:38 We can do a bag skull. Oh, my God. Lena, thank you so much for your call. Marty, how do you... Do you touch the chips when you put them into your mouth? I grew up and discovered the joy of licking your fingers. But before that, I would open the packet, just the corner of it, let the air out, crush them up, and then just sit back and pour them into my mouth.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Oh, so you do that. You're another one that does this. No hands. No hands. Because people don't want to touch the chip. When you're sitting on your wife's couch that you're not allowed to eat food on, that's probably the best way to not get it dirty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:12 So rather than obeying the rules, you've just flouted them cleverly. Yeah, brilliant. Thanks, Marty. Tom, who initially called, who wears the disposable gloves, how does that make you feel? I don't feel weird. You don't feel weird? Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I don't feel weird anymore. This is great. Although we did... I feel like I've also... I feel like I haven't been very economically friendly, though, with, like, the disposable gloves. So I'm thinking I might just do the crushing trick now. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Or carry around chopsticks. But I kind of suck with chopsticks. Although... I feel like, yeah. A lot of people, like, nobody's messaging about the gloves, though, have they? No, no. No gloves, but someone at the complete opposite end of the thing, I don't
Starting point is 00:34:49 lick my fingers when I'm eating chips because that's my cat's treat at the end of my bag of chips. I just hang my hand down and the cat licks my fingers clean. Brilliant. Hey, Tom. Tom. That's some great exfoliation for the fingers too because cats have very rough tongues. It is. Hey, Tom, thanks so much for calling ZM's Fletch Forner.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Kia ora, this is Toby Manhai. I'm the host of Gone By Lunchtime, a podcast for the spin-off podcast network all about politics and politicians with me, Annabel Lee-Mather and Ben Thomas, careering wildly
Starting point is 00:35:16 from the very serious to the very ridiculous. It's not for everyone. I don't think it would be Ellen's cup of tea, but you, I reckon, will love it. Gone By Lunchtime.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Grab one now wherever you get your podcasts. Megan, the podcast. Radio Tinder, Daddy Edition. So tomorrow we are going to do Radio Tinder, the Daddy Edition, and we have found our single daddy to participate. Now this is because it's Father's Day on Sunday. Do not forget. Yeah, don't forget. Well no, because you've been to the post shop.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I've done, I've not forgotten my fatherly. The lady didn't know where Moran's Village. Judy, she had no idea. Actually we had some correspondence follow up from that. Someone else went to that post shop, didn't they? Yeah, and she didn't know where Palmerston North was. So it's more on her than... Very confusing place, this country of ours.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Very confusing. We have chosen a dad for Radio Tinder tomorrow. We've found the daddy of all daddies. This 25-year-old father of two is a pet-loving, soon-to-be private pilot. After six months of singleness, he's ready to meet the open-minded, driven girl of his dreams. If you're after a daddy, then we've found your snack.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Meet Ethan. Oh, my God. Goodness me. Goodness, goodness me. Well, we're going to meet Ethan tomorrow, but ahead of that, we thought we'd get a bit more insight into what he's like and who better to ask than his sister, Katie.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Good morning, Katie. Good morning. How are you? Good, good. Now, we've got Ethan's profile up, and you can go to our Instagram story, FVMZM, to see Ethan. If you want to play Radio Tinder Daddy Edition tomorrow. What's he like? I mean, you're obviously going to say good things.
Starting point is 00:37:02 He's your brother. No, I wouldn't say good things about my brother. No, actually you're obviously going to say good things. He's your brother. No, I wouldn't say good things about my brother. No, actually, I am going to say good things because he actually is a real nice guy. But the issue with Ethan is that he's almost too nice. Oh, he needs a bit of bad boy, does he? Yeah, he does. People always are just, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:21 taking advantage of his kind nature and things and it just blows my mind. Right. Are you one of those siblings that like each other? We do now. We've been for a while. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:32 So just generally a nice guy. Yeah, but generally he's just such a nice guy. He puts a lot of time and effort into his kids. He's got a very unique job as well. Okay. Yeah, which I don't know whether that contributes to not finding anyone yet. Okay. So what's his unique job as well. Okay. Yeah, which I don't know whether that contributes to not finding anyone yet, but... Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:48 So what's his unique job? So Ethan is a funeral director and... What? And embalmer. Wow. Wow. Wow. I'd go on a date with him just to hear the stories.
Starting point is 00:38:01 They make good money, though. They make good money, though. Oh, okay. You're going to be wrong. Is it? People are always dying. Exactly. He's never going to be out of business. No.
Starting point is 00:38:10 So is that something he was passionate about, or is it something he kind of fell into? He fell into it. He did a gateway thing through school, I think, and then that's just where life took him. But I guess to be a funeral director, you've got to be like really compassionate and care about other people.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yes, all those good traits that, you know, girls are looking for. And think about that family discount as well. When someone in the family dies, you'll get the good casket. He'd always wash his hands. What's his negatives? What's the downfall?
Starting point is 00:38:40 Oh, it's probably that he just, like once he starts talking, he doesn't stop talking. Well, can you blame him? He's been with dead people all day. I don't give him a lot of convo. Whenever I'm trying to get rid of him on the phone, it's like 30 minutes later, 15 minutes later.
Starting point is 00:38:56 All right, well, hey, Katie, some good insight into Ethan there. If you'd like to look up Ethan, you can go to our Instagram story now, FVMZM, and you can apply to take part in tomorrow's Father's Day Radio Tinder Daddy Edition. Katie, thanks so much. Thanks, guys. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. We were talking after the show yesterday about,
Starting point is 00:39:17 no, I was just reading about this movie. I was trying to remember the details of this movie that I'll reference soon with my own personal take on this yarn. But Executive Intern Anya was telling us. How did we get talking about? I have no idea. Oh, it was because we were talking about your pregnancy and then we were talking about Juno
Starting point is 00:39:34 because it was the movie about the pregnancy. With Alan Hage, Michael Cero, Jason Bateman. It was a great movie. Great movie. Fantastic movie. And it was when Executive intern Anya piped up that there was a bit of a situation with the movie Juno and your dad.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Yes. Let's cast our minds back now to probably 2006 maybe. Okay. Well Juno came out in 2007 so it might have been more 2008. Yeah yeah yeah. It it might have been more 2008.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it was on DVD anyway. Okay. And I was probably about 10 at the time. And me and Dad decided to have a movie night. Cute. Just you two? Just us.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Okay. And we went down to the video shop and we're waiting for the fish and chips. Cute. And picking a movie. And I thought that Juno looked quite good. So I got that out on DVD and then we went home and we lasted about five minutes. There was a scene on a lazy boy chair
Starting point is 00:40:33 where they were doing a tango and then another scene where they put a hat on a banana and that was when Dave marched me back down to the video shop and we had to return the DVD for something much more family friendly. Wait a minute. Civic Video?
Starting point is 00:40:54 United Video? United Video. So you go back into United Video. Yeah. And does Dave say, now this is unsuitable. I just want to exchange it for another DVD or I've returned this and I'll pay for another one. I think he said he'd like to swap it
Starting point is 00:41:09 because he only watched five minutes. Right, good. I don't think that's, United Video would never have let you get away with that. I think they did at the time, yeah. Really? He was pretty flustered about that little deal. Very flustered.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Yeah, and I think we ended up with cheaper by the dozen or something of a similar nature. What do you mean? She had a problem with a girl having sex once. Cheaper by the dozen, they must have had sex at least a dozen times because they had a dozen children. It didn't show it, and it wasn't on a lazy boy. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:41:38 It was in bed, missionary, as God intended it. Was that embarrassing, walking back with Dad? Yeah. Yep, it was. Yep. What? Yep. Walking back with Dad? Because, yeah. Yep, it was. Yep. What were your mum and sister doing? I think they were away. Oh, they were having their own, like, girls weekend.
Starting point is 00:41:55 It was a dad-daughter bonding night. Right, okay. Not that kind of bonding. Wow, so. Oh, no. Okay, he let the lazy boy scene play through, and then he's like, well, I don't know what's around the corner of this film.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Well, the start's probably the most risque part. He was like, time, time. Time here. Too many questions. So you took it back. Yeah. Right. So we want to know when there was an awkward moment in a movie
Starting point is 00:42:16 with you and your parents. Because maybe it was a family movie night and everybody's watching. Yeah. They don't really know what they're getting themselves in for. And then maybe there is an awkward sex yeah you're like only you're very aware of all your body movements you sit very still yeah I don't look like you're enjoying this
Starting point is 00:42:38 yeah I remember we dad no watching Steven Seagal's classic Under Siege one. Okay. Now, was that the... Submarine? There was an aircraft carrier or a submarine, and it was under siege by some teary wrists. That sounds like an action, though. Like, what could possibly be...
Starting point is 00:42:55 Well, that was why we watched it together, because we liked... We both like action movies. In the 90s, a lot of those action movies had a lot of boobies. A lot of boobies. Yeah. They were like, we've got to add some boobies. Erica Alnack jumped out of a cake.
Starting point is 00:43:09 She was on the, where it was all going down. She had no idea what was going on. She'd been in the cake for so long. She jumped out, boobs out. And I'm like. What did your dad say? Nothing. He was probably like, oh, all right.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Your mother asked You chose this But then we were like And then They got put away And we were like Okay They got put away
Starting point is 00:43:32 I think she went back in the cake I think she went back in the cake And put something on That pales in comparison To watching Team America With your parents And the director's cut What was wrong with Oh the director's cut is even more.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Oh, the director. Oh, yes. When two of the puppets love each other very much. Yeah. And then suddenly there's a puppet. But at least it's true. You were in your 20s when that came out. It was horrific.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Why did you watch that? You should have known you can't watch a Trey Parker, Matt Stone. Yeah, but I didn't realise it was going to be that. With my parents sitting there. we were all so quiet. My parents would have turned that movie off well before. They wouldn't have stood for that. This is just nonsense. So we want you to share with us now on 0800-DARLS-IT-M and 9696, you can text them.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Where did you have an awkward movie moment with your parents? You're watching something, a movie or on the TV and maybe there was a scene, a certain scene that came on and to this day, you still remember it, like the scene from Juno. Oh my god! Okay. Are you going to say this for last?
Starting point is 00:44:40 Oh, I can if you want or I can read it now. I think because the last word of this text is very funny but probably would indicate the end of the segment. So remind me, I'll if you want, or I can read it now. I think because the last word of this text message is very funny, but probably would indicate the end of the segment. So remind me, I'll read that one last. Okay, all right. Well, let's take some calls first. Amy, you were watching a movie with your parents
Starting point is 00:44:55 and there was an awkward scene or a TV show? So it was a TV series in the late 2000s. So I would have been about 17. Okay. And when vampires were big, and I decided I wanted to watch True Blood. Okay. And I'd been told it was a bit risque, so I went up into my room and tuned in. And as it started, my dad walked in, and it was a scene with a couple of vampires making sandwiches while chained to a ceiling.
Starting point is 00:45:31 He decided to sit down on the bed and go, oh, this looks good. And so I had to sit there in silence with my dad watching the sandwich making i love you not going up on the sandwich making that's good wow okay and did he save for the whole episode he stayed all the way through um and i'm like quite a prude when it comes to watching it so i was embarrassed to watch it and then super embarrassed because he kept looking back with one of those oh, this is good looks on his face.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Wow. Stuck with me. You're just like, just either. Even now you can feel the pain. You can feel the pain in your voice. Thanks, Amy. Sarah-Marie, you watched something awkward with your kids, your nanny. I was a nanny. I was a nanny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:26 I was a nanny and we went to the video show. It was in London and he was 10 and he chose this movie and he's like, it's fine, my parents sent me to watch Rocky Horror Picture Show and I was like, I don't know, but I couldn't really remember it properly. So we went home and put it on and yeah, it was American Pie. Oh no. As soon as it started I was like Do you still want to watch this?
Starting point is 00:46:47 He was like yeah So I was like I'll just act real casual So we watched the whole thing And I was like Do you have any questions? He was like No
Starting point is 00:46:55 And I was like Let's return it now Let's return it now Before mum and dad See the case I was like No no We'll just take it back now
Starting point is 00:47:04 And they never The parents never said anything. So I'm pretty sure he didn't tell them. You were like, ask me all your questions now. Do not ask your parents. Get your questions out of the way. That's brilliant. Sarah Marie, thank you.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Rob, you watched an awkward movie with your parents? Good morning, how are we doing? Good morning. Good on you. Yeah, I did. It wasn't only my parents. It was a mother in Sunday. And we had my grandma who was in her 80s,
Starting point is 00:47:30 my mum, who is a bit of a God-fearing person, or was. Okay. Plus my dad, plus my younger brothers, plus my brother and his girlfriend. And we got out four weddings and a funeral. And I just remember thinking, it's a nice family film to watch got it out on video good old vhs yep and we took it on and the opening sequence is just
Starting point is 00:47:50 when he jumps out of bed view grants and start shouting oh f f f oh f f f we're late for the wedding and uh we didn't realize there was any f words in it we were saying oh my god and i'm looking at me and my dad were looking at my grandma and she was watching it. And then we get to the sea after the wedding where the bride and groom go upstairs and consummate their wedding. And we just, and then there was just that awkward silence and my grandma turned around and just said, hey, these Americans, eh? She knows. She's been around the block a bit with us.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Awesome. Our grandparents grew up in like post-war or wartime. Like they're there. Yeah. Hey, Rob, thanks. Stuff happening there. Awesome, Rob. Thanks for your call, mate.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Answered text messages. Awkward watching was Jurassic Park. You might be thinking, how's this awkward? Well, we were watching with my ex-mother-in-law, who's a Jehovah's Witness, and she was mumbling the whole movie, saying dinosaurs are made up and none of this is real and none of this could happen and dinosaur fossils are man-made.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And my daughter, who's seven at the time, ended up pausing it and turning around and saying, look, you've got to learn some science and shush, we're watching the movie. Wow, brilliant. Somebody else said, me, my brother and my dad decided we were going to watch a movie and since our mum wasn't going to be there, we were going to watch a Western, Brokeback Mountain. Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:15 That was a very awkward watch. It was a great movie. Let's just say young Adam certainly learnt a thing or two that day. There are so many amazing messages come in. Somebody said, for Christmas, I got the movie Bridesmaids. I was like, this is fantastic. Great movie. Yeah, we'll chuck it on.
Starting point is 00:49:34 We put it on that night. Grandparents were there too because it's Christmas. No one knew the first scene was going to be so intimate. Anyway, our nana elbowed grandad and they got up and they said, right, I think it's time for us to leave. We'll leave you lot to your blowjobs. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Oh, my God. That's good. Santa, don't say that. I just... Wow. Yeah, no, wow. She knows what they're called. She knows.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. ZM. We're joined on the show by a real-life private investigator, Shani McGlynn. Good morning. Good morning. You must get so many questions from people. Gosh.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Because there is that movie, like, stereotype of a private investigator, isn't there? Unfortunately, I might have to burst your bubbles today. It's not as glamorous as you may think. But is it like having a friend that's a doctor? Like, you go to a dinner party or something, and someone's like, now, I've just got this question. And it's like, have a look at this rash.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Or what do you think of my daughter's boyfriend? Yeah. And more for me, it's, hey, I've met this guy. Can we just do a quick look and let me know what you think? Right. Yeah. And that's what you've set up. Now, how long have you been doing datecheck.nz for?
Starting point is 00:51:03 I launched that last march um kind of off the back of a couple of things um first of all the grace malayne thing was in the back of my mind yeah um she met the guy off tinder so that was concerning for me as an ex-police officer um and also i've got a lot of girlfriends who are on their second time round yeah um and they're meeting a lot of guys and hearing a lot of rubbish and so they've been asking me to do background checks for ages, obviously within the realm of you know, open source intelligence, stuff that's
Starting point is 00:51:32 out there that you can access yourself and then I thought, God, if my girlfriends are wanting this, surely someone else is going to need this. So yeah, so I just, I launched a website. So you do a date check standard for $149 and that'll get you a report within three to five days
Starting point is 00:51:48 on your new Tinder match or your new possible boyfriend or a date check priority for $199 and that gets you a report back in a day. Yes. So what kind of stuff do you dig up on people? You would, look, obviously there are things that we can't do and unfortunately, you know, CSI has ruined it for all private investigators and police officers, you know, basically saying that you can get, you know, police reports and background checks and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:52:11 And you can't actually, you know, because of the privacy law, you can't do that. Yeah. But you will be very, very surprised at what someone puts out about themselves on the internet. And as we know, once it's out there, it's out there for good. So, look, I've had a lady who's come back to me three times. She's in her 50s, very successful. And every single time she's been scammed, one of them we found out was a guy from a scam
Starting point is 00:52:33 which is run by a call centre in Ghana. So these are very, very sophisticated. What they're doing is they've got men with American accents and they're on these dating websites and they're meeting these women and they're nurturing these relationships. They write notes. Yeah, and then they know they schedule a callback time. Yeah, it's very, very sophisticated.
Starting point is 00:52:54 This could also be good if you've got a single parent who's moved on and is looking to date. You want to run a check on... That would be your majority of demographic, right? The older people? Because is it a younger people a bit more savvy to? I wouldn't say savvy. I'd just say a bit more hook-uppy.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Right, right. Not as long. They're not serious. Yeah. And so if you've got someone in their 40s, second time around, they've got kids, they've got property, they've got things that they need to protect, then absolutely.
Starting point is 00:53:26 And it seems to be females are my target market. I mean, males, whether they don't care or they think they're okay. But no, it's more females, 40s, 50s. Males are like, no, no, trust me. I've given her $9,000. She's coming from Russia. Last time the flight got cancelled
Starting point is 00:53:44 and they wouldn't refund her. I've got to send her a bit more money. That surprises me though because you said the woman in her 50s is successful, so like quite savvy.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Yes. But even she's kind of falling for these scams. So the scams are obviously getting better. They are. And look, the first guy that I did
Starting point is 00:53:59 for her told her he was 59. He was actually 69. And he said that he owned his own house. He was flatting with someone on the shore. He said he was 59, he was actually 69 and he said that he owned his own house, he was flatting with someone on the shore. He said he was a registered engineer and there's a register
Starting point is 00:54:11 for those sorts of things that you have to, you can search that. He wasn't on it. Said he could never take phone calls between Monday and Friday. Why? We can all take phone calls or all be in contact. Wow. So there's some I mean, things to look for in terms of, like, if you're being catfished or you don't think someone's genuine,
Starting point is 00:54:31 are there some general red flags that you can... Yeah. Look, absolutely. You've got to go by the photos, right? So the photos that someone's posting, I would be, you can reverse Google these things and see if it's a photo off the internet. Also, what you want to do is you want to ask them to FaceTime you because if
Starting point is 00:54:49 you're being catfished then they're not going to want to FaceTime you and if they're telling you rubbish that they don't have a smartphone well you know that's a red flag totally. Yeah totally and you want to ask them more photos and conversations things like that.
Starting point is 00:55:07 You know, obviously don't give out your phone number, your date of birth, your addresses, none of those identifiers before you meet up with them. You know, you must make sure that you have a family member that you've texted. This is the person's name. This is their phone number. This is their photo.
Starting point is 00:55:18 I get all my girlfriends to do that. I've got a few that are on dating apps and text them when they get there and text 10 minutes in just to make sure everything's okay. Don't go to their house. Don't meet, you know, like that guy that was,
Starting point is 00:55:31 I don't know why he was surprised that he was ambushed. It was a honey trap. So he met a girl off Tinder. They'd met once before. He was meeting her again at 10 o'clock on a Monday night. Wonder what that was for.
Starting point is 00:55:42 And he got ambushed. You know, two guys beat him up. He went to hospital and they stole his car. She went with them. So no one should go through that. That's terrible. However, what are you looking for? And you know, what I say is if you're going to be on a dating website, go to a reputable one, one where you actually pay for, because then you've got more of a chance of meeting someone who's legit because they've forked out their own money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Yeah. And are all these scams being run on the internet? Like you say, like on dating apps and everything or are some people taking their scams offline like they are? Look, I haven't heard any. I've just been contacted by a lady who wants to collaborate. She's got a matchmaking website she's setting up and she's got 2,000-odd people on her books. And so I think that's a really good idea.
Starting point is 00:56:29 She does the matchmaking and then they meet. And I guess, I mean, there's no guarantee that, you know, it's going to work out. But mostly of them are definitely on apps, yeah, online dating apps. And they're especially the ones where you're scrolling through very quickly. Wow. Yeah. That's fascinating.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Well, if you want to run a check on mum's new shady boyfriend before Christmas. Man, if my parents are still together, but man, if my mum saw anybody, I'd be running a full report on every single one of them. Well, you can check out datecheck.nz. Thanks so much for talking to us, Shani. No problem. Thanks, guys. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Yesterday, we were talking, There was tension between executive intern Anya and Mr Boon Boons This is her boyfriend There was tension because There had been a discussion on The fact that he knew Her phone number Off by heart
Starting point is 00:57:20 How long have you been together? Four and a half years And you've had the same phone number the whole time? Yep Off by heart. How long have you been together? Four and a half years. Okay. Yeah. And you've had the same phone number the whole time? Yeah. And he's had the same number the whole time? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:32 And you don't know his phone number? I couldn't even tell you if it starts with 027 or 021. Are you joking? No, you're joking. No. No, I'm on Anya's side here. Because you don't need to remember anyone's phone number these days because it's in your phone. When you go somewhere, you put him down as an emergency contact, right?
Starting point is 00:57:55 And then every time, do you look up on your phone? Yeah. But also, I'm not doing that many things that require an emergency contact. How many times are you putting down an emergency contact? I write down Andrew's phone number on forms all the time. It's like contact number for... All the time. And if you're filling in a form on their behalf.
Starting point is 00:58:13 And if I'm buying something at Mitre 10, he's got the registration, so you have to check the numbers right. Yeah. On everything. You always have to write their number down. Sade wouldn't know my phone number, but I know hers. You're good with numbers, though, and dates.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Birthdays and stuff. But is she not writing down you as an emergency contact? She would have to get out her phone, and she probably writes down her mum's number, to be honest. She probably knows her mum's number. No, she doesn't know her mum's number, because I know her mum's number, but she doesn't know her mum's number either.
Starting point is 00:58:41 She's like, what's mum's number? What happens if she loses her phone and something happens and she's like, can I borrow someone's phone? Eight days later when we find her, cold and a mess and probably wet and with sticks in her hair, I'll say, ha ha,
Starting point is 00:58:58 told you so. You should have known my number. She even asked me what year I was born all the time. She's like, what year were you born again? I'm like unbelievable. What day is our anniversary? She said to me. I can see why people get shitty about that. That stung.
Starting point is 00:59:14 That one really stung. That stung. This was a real bugaboo of mine because Andrew didn't know my phone number so I literally made him sit there and learn it. What, like a naughty child? Yeah. And even now he gets like one number confused. I'm like, no. How did he learn it?
Starting point is 00:59:29 Is it a song or does he have a story for how the numbers go? No. That would have been good actually. Repeated it over and over and over. Repeated. Yeah. Did you just get home? I had to write on a chalkboard.
Starting point is 00:59:39 You got home for a week. Hey, got home. You're like, all right, now you're going to sit down with this line refill and write down my number. Yeah. I mean, not on a refill, but he used to write it on his phone. I'd be like, no, one number's wrong. I can't get rid of it. I can still remember, like, five of my friends'
Starting point is 00:59:54 home line numbers from when I was at college. They just, I can't shake them. Yeah. That's mad. I can't believe you. That's offensive. What about your mum and dad's cell number? I know those because I learnt them as a kid. Like if there was an emergency.
Starting point is 01:00:11 But like I don't sign that, like I don't go abseiling or anything. I don't need to put him down as a contact that much, you know? But like when you go to the doctor or something or like, I don't know, you always have to write down their number. Is he your emergency contact? Yeah. Is he? He would be for new stuff. I think like if mum or dad were already listed, I wouldn't
Starting point is 01:00:32 be like, hey, update that. Right. But for new stuff, I would. And then he tried to make me learn it the other night. I was like, oh. You're always going to have your phone. Yeah. It doesn't matter. What about Mountie? You've been with your MMA have your phone. Yeah. It doesn't matter. What about Mountie? What about Mountie?
Starting point is 01:00:48 You've been with your MMA boyfriend for ages. Yeah, about six years. Do you know his number off by heart? I do, but I put this down to many trips to the A&E where I've had to fill out his concussion. He's been kicked in the nose again. Does he even remember who you are sometimes? I don't know. Like, I think he likes me, but...
Starting point is 01:01:07 It's because you're a new person every week. Exactly. It's keeping it fresh and exciting. But we ran a poll online and asked, do you know your partner's phone number off by heart? And it's pretty down the middle.
Starting point is 01:01:18 55% of people said, yep, I know my partner's number off by heart. 45% said, I've got no idea. Well, you will bloody sit down and learn it. Yeah, learn it. But how often is your phone run out of batteries and you can't access anything on it?
Starting point is 01:01:34 Very rarely. Not the point. I just... It's always there. It's just love, right? There's no point in learning someone's number. But when it runs out of battery, you're not prepared for it to run out of battery.
Starting point is 01:01:44 That's when you need the help. I still remember my ex-husband's phone number. learning someone's number. But when it runs out of battery, you're not prepared for it to run out of battery. That's when you need the help. I still remember my ex-husband's phone number. Do you? Yes. I still remember that phone number you had to get rid of like 15 years ago because of all the devilish type activity that was associated with it. And I often do think about calling that old number of yours and being like, do you still get calls?
Starting point is 01:02:04 Text messages, like really inappropriate pictures. Is that? For when it was telemarketers. Oh, is that why you got rid of that phone? Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. Fact of the day, win you some cash. Questions about this fact of the day at 12 and 4. That's right.
Starting point is 01:02:37 It's all thanks to Save My Back and helping you to borrow money online and growing your credit score at the same time. Today's fact of the day is about dog poop. Okay. Do you remember in the day is about dog poop. Okay. Do you remember in the 90s when dog poop was always white? Yes. And people would leave out a plastic drink bottle on their lawn. Half full.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Full of water. Because someone said once somehow that that kept dogs from... Pooping on their lawn. Yeah. Yeah. And so you just drive down streets and everyone would have like an old Coke bottle full of water on their lawn. Yeah. Yeah. And so you just drive down streets and everyone would have like an old Coke bottle full of water on their lawn. Yeah, but that was uglier than the dog poo
Starting point is 01:03:08 because you couldn't see the dog poo when the grass was like a little bit longer. But you could always see that plastic bottle. Yeah. You'd get my dog to go over to him and be like, right, come here. Right on this. Right on that thing.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Right on that. But I don't know, did that, my nana was a big believer in that. I don't know. That almost ends its own investigative podcast series. Was that just a New Zealand thing? Because there was no, in those days growing up, there was no internet. So how did that get spread?
Starting point is 01:03:35 Word of mouth. Was it like a Woman's Weekly thing? Or a... Agony Hunter. Yeah. Gardening tips. What did Maggie Barry spout off about it on Maggie's Garden World? She may have.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Maybe she did. It wouldn't have been rude. Not the bug man. He wouldn't have dared delve into dog poo territory. But today's fact of the day is why you don't see dog poo white anymore. I thought it was because it was dry and we were picking it up. And so it doesn't go all dry. But then not everyone picks it up, right?
Starting point is 01:04:06 No, no. And you might still see the odd white one. I'm not saying they're completely gone because it's dependent on what dogs were fed. Right. It was something in the 90s, 80s and 90s called bone meal. It was like a filler for dog food. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:23 It was before everybody was spending more money feeding their pets than they do feeding themselves. That's for some reason we're all like, well, everybody remembers how unhealthy animals were in the 80s. Everyone's like, well, no, actually, no, I don't know. I think they were pretty thin and agile and they loved their triangle biscuits.
Starting point is 01:04:40 That's for sure. I remember the dog eating a lot of them and that dog went forever. Well, they took Bone Meal out of dog food and that was the thing that's for sure. I remember the dog eating a lot of them, and that dog went forever. Well, they took bone meal out of dog food, and that was the thing that would be left, and it would go white. Like a lot of the other poo, the rain would dissolve it and wash it away, but bone meal was actually just like powdered bone, so it would come out and hold the form,
Starting point is 01:04:57 and it would go white and bleach in the sun. Oh, okay. Just like bone. Yeah, so they took it out of dog food because apparently it wasn't a good thing. It was just like a cheap filler. No, no, people were always like, you shouldn't feed your dog cooked bones. People always say that.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Really? When you've just cooked short rib for like eight hours and your dog's looking at you like, can I have some? And you're like, well, you can have this bone. Yeah. It's hard to say no. So they must have found a cheaper filler then. Yeah, one that doesn't go white in the sun maybe.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Polystyrene? Plasticine? Sure. Play-Doh? Wow, okay, that's interesting. Yeah. I found a whole, you know how tennis balls are in that shape? You know when you pull a tennis ball?
Starting point is 01:05:40 No, no, no. The covering of it is in two things and they interlock. Yeah. Yeah. And if you fold it out, it kind of looks like a bone. It's wider at the end and it's skinner in the middle and they wrap around each other like that. I found a whole one of those in our dog poo the other day.
Starting point is 01:05:55 The dog had torn the covering off and then just been like, and then solid the whole thing and then it was like the length of the poo. I was like, who's been pulling apart tennis balls? And I almost put my hand on it and I was like, oh, there's a poo hidden under it. So it just came was like the length of the poo. I was like, who's been pulling apart tennis balls? And I almost put my hand on it, and I was like, oh, there's a poo hidden under it. So it just came out right on top of the magical. Anyway, today's fact of the day about dog poo is that dog poo isn't as white as it used to be
Starting point is 01:06:16 because they don't put as much bone meal in it. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. One of the original therapists on Married at First Sight Australia has quit the show. Dr. Tricia, she was the brunette. Right. And she has quit because it is not the show she signed up for.
Starting point is 01:06:53 We've all noticed this. As it started as a matchmaking thing and then gradually the people that they had on there were just outrageous. Yeah. Bacon, soda and vinegar. Yeah. Okay, we're going to match these couple.
Starting point is 01:07:06 We're going to try and make them happy or are we going to try and make a good TV show here? Yeah, and they obviously want a good TV show. As long as we have one couple that don't kill each other, we'll be fine. The rest can be absolute sparks and powder kegs. Yeah. Well, she's a neuropsychotherapist,
Starting point is 01:07:22 so she doesn't really need TV. And she's told it as it is. She said it became really clear to me over the last two seasons but particularly in the last season that the type of people applying for the show were just becoming more and more outrageous. It became very difficult to match people who were on the show
Starting point is 01:07:38 for the wrong reasons. And then it just ended up being everyone cheating on everyone else and then like fights at the dinner ceremony. Yeah. Which again is great TV. Great to watch. But like you're watching that show with the impression that you're going to see like love stories
Starting point is 01:07:51 and it just ends up being set up drama and you know, like I kind of fell in love with this show. Yeah. It was ridiculous. And when they were the experts and they were actual doctors like this, what was her name? Sorry. Tricia. Tricia. She's's a doctor she's a qualified professional yeah how could you go on there and be like oh yeah this i'm an expert and happily have your name attached to it i always thought
Starting point is 01:08:17 that about that show like she said i understand the network and the production company need to make a show that's going to rate and And there's a happy medium in there. And for me, it just swung too much the other way. All the participants start doing ridiculous thing. And then they all try and up each other. And it gets out of control and it damages them. So she doesn't want to be a part of it anymore. She has quit.
Starting point is 01:08:38 So now what? How are they going to get on instead? I think they still have John Aiken. We've spoken to him before. He's such a lovely guy. And I wonder how he deals with the outrageous people that they have on there. John Aitken
Starting point is 01:08:49 and Mal Schilling are the other experts who I believe are still part of the show. Huh. So, they're still going ahead with another season, I'd imagine? I mean, yeah. It's still rates, it's okay? Yeah. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast.
Starting point is 01:09:06 ZM. Bluff or Stuff. It's time to play Bluff or Stuff. Stassi, good morning. Good morning. Good morning, Stassi. Right, so we're playing today the prize. It's an Amazon Echo Dot, so you can be like,
Starting point is 01:09:26 hey, Alexa, play ZM and what's the weather and stuff and control, it's like living in the future Stacey. Tell me a joke. Yeah. How many days till anything? Christmas? Yeah Christmas, you can ask that. Oh god, don't ask that. Stacey, will you be playing for yourself or will this be a dad's, a
Starting point is 01:09:42 father's day gift? I think I'll try to give it to dad, but I'm not sure if he'll be able to use it. He's not very good with technology. Yeah, and the trouble is you'll have to set it up. It'll freak him out, yeah, probably. All right, so Stacey, bluff or stuff, this is how it works. We're all going to bluff and say that we are holding your prize,
Starting point is 01:10:00 although only one of us is. You've got to tell us correctly who is to win. Megan, would you like to start? Seeing as you're not holding the box. It's a little blue cube. It fits nicely in my one hand. Oh, how heavy is it? Oh, it's like a kg.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Not even. Kg! I don't know. It doesn't say on the box how heavy it is. Well, if you knew if you were holding it. It's not even as heavy as a... Yeah, but I'm not very good with judging weight in my hands. Well, imagine a block of butter because I've got it in my hand. Oh, that's 500 grams. It's less than that.
Starting point is 01:10:30 I'd say 350, 300. Oh, I've got it in my hand. Okay. I don't need to brag about how heavy it is. I'll just tell you it's 300 grams. I've got a great ability to just hold something and know the exact weight. Okay. See, Fletch is googling how much the weight is now because he's not holding it to just
Starting point is 01:10:46 know for a reference. 300 grams. I told you that. There you go. Yeah, but it doesn't say that on the box. I'm looking. It doesn't say it. No, the packaging would weigh that.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Stacey, I don't need to tell you that I'm holding it. Just listen. Oh, gross. Not in this studio. Ooh, that's your lunchbox. Is it? Stacey, I don't need to go on about it. That's his tamari almonds.
Starting point is 01:11:09 No. In a bag, in a container. These are tamari almonds in a glad bag. I'm going to take them out of the container. Okay, tamari almonds. Eco dot. That gave him time to put the tamari almonds in the bag. Don't believe the hype, Stacey
Starting point is 01:11:26 You know, the old smoothie's got it in his hands And soon it could be in your hands Where you could use it to listen to music Or check the weather Yeah I mean, I don't want this box This kind of blue Stacey
Starting point is 01:11:43 It's got Amazon written on it I'd like you to eliminate one of us. Who's definitely not holding it? Megan. Why does everyone always pick me? That's a real good lie. That is correct. Because you're a terrible liar?
Starting point is 01:11:57 I'm not holding it. All right. Well, Stacey. Is Vaughn holding your prize or am I holding your prize? I think Fletch is. Okay, are you sure? I don't know. I will admit I like that honesty.
Starting point is 01:12:17 She's not sure, but she's got to pick one. Because if I knew, she would have gone with you straight away. That is correct. Yay! Yes. That was me shaking your prize. It wasn't his lunch. Hey, congratulations, Stacey.
Starting point is 01:12:32 You've won Bluff or Stuff. You've won the Echo Dot from Amazon. Congratulations. Thank you so much. Whether you give that to Dad or just keep it. No judge here. Just go with the standard lotto ticket for Dad, probably. Or some kind of dinner or all night out, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Be like, oh, yeah, I'll get you. Set that up for me when you're down next. I'm just repeating. My dad would exactly say to me if I got a money. Yeah, and then never use it until you go home and use it. ZDM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. If you enjoyed this podcast, why not give ZM's free and clint a listen too subscribe on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts
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