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Hello. Snuck up on us. Fletch was reclined in the nook.
Which is the corner of the studio. Yeah, in the couch.
The broadcasting nook.
Indeed.
Good morning.
Welcome to the show, Fleeche, Vaughan and Megan.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Good morning, good morning.
Good morning.
Vaughan and I were just talking, he's just finished Afterlife Season 2.
It's what we've met conversation in.
No, but you talk so loud, I know a lot of what happened in Afterlife Season 2.
You had your headphones on. No. but you talk so loud, I know a lot of what happened in Afterlife Season 2. Oh, I didn't get your headphones on.
No.
Have you watched Season 1, though?
I watched, yeah, I've watched Season 1.
Oh, okay.
I haven't gone around to Season 2 yet.
But it's good.
Yeah, it ruined me.
In a good way.
Oh, there was tears.
You cried?
Yeah.
It got me.
It's really funny and really sad.
Did you cry?
Well, there was a little, like, welling.
There was a welling at one point.
It's all over the show with how it goes from outrageous,
gervais humour to the dark recesses of sadness so quickly.
Yeah.
And you're like, what's happening here?
It's very confusing, but no, emotionally confusing,
but such a good series.
I finally, because this is what the world
has come to, How Was Your Weekend?
It's basically what TV show did you watch
at the weekend? I finished McMillions.
Oh, yeah. About the
guys that ripped off
McDonald's Monopoly
in the United States for years.
They got away with like $26 million.
All the top prizes they just
rigged to their mates.
My God.
And people they knew.
It's nuts.
They got away with it for quite a while, so they got a bit comfy, eh?
And they got a bit lazy with who they were giving it to.
They weren't branching out far enough.
But it would have been like 10 years or something?
It was over 12 years.
Over 12 years, yeah.
So they were stealing on average, yeah, like over $2 million a year.
Yeah.
So they were giving it to their friends?
Yes.
So their friends have to pay money back?
Yes.
Oh, damn.
Well, they'd sell them the tickets.
Or they'd say, here it is on the proviso.
So that was a million dollar prize.
Yeah.
I'll give you this million dollar ticket.
You claim it.
Give me half.
But then people were getting stung
because in America
you're taxed
on prize winning
so they were giving them
$50,000 back
but then they were paying the tax
which was like $30,000
so they were left with bug rule
right
wow
okay
it's fascinating though
fascinating
but after all of it
oh it's not really a spoiler
to tell you how they did it
in the last episode oh no don't tell no no I'm not gonna I'm to tell you how they did it in the last episode.
Oh, no, don't tell.
No, no, I'm not going to tell them.
But I guess in the last episode they show you how he was ripping them off.
You're like, oh.
I know because the whole episode, the whole series, you're like, how's he doing it?
Because they had all these processes in place.
The security measures in place were nuts.
Right.
Yeah.
I wanted to figure out how he was doing it.
You're just like,
oh, that easy.
Wow.
Okay, well, I'm intrigued.
It's on Neon.
Yeah.
If you like a bit
of true crime doco.
Great watch.
You call it,
I mean, it's not like
a murder true crime,
but it's true crime.
It's white collar
true crime.
Fraudulent.
Fraudulent.
Yeah.
Top six is coming up.
Yeah, there's a new react on Facebook.
You can now show people that you care.
So it's like emoji hugging a heart, isn't it?
I care.
Have you seen that?
Yeah, I thought it was an emoji with a scarf on.
It looks like it's a scarf.
The react is cold neck.
Yeah.
I've got a cold neck.
So the top six other Facebook Reacts we need.
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The podcast.
ZM.
Our supermarket shopping habits have changed.
If this British survey is anything to go by.
In the UK, apparently, not only are people cutting down on their meat consumption,
but 15% of people that said that
also cut down on their dairy and egg intake.
Oh God, not me.
I don't think I've necessarily cut down on consumption of anything.
Across the board, my consumption is on the up.
I've eaten so much cheese.
Yeah.
I feel like everything involves cheese.
But is it because things like meat and dairy can be quite expensive?
Yes.
That people are cutting those?
And also because people aren't going to the supermarkets as often.
Right.
So you, like if you buy a bunch of meat, it's not always going to last you very long.
Yeah.
How long is a normal, is it like five days?
Fruit and veg, then that would indicate fruit and veg would be getting purchased less.
You can get canned and frozen veggies.
Nothing goes limper quick than a stalk of celery.
You've got to wrap it in foil.
Do you know that's a trick?
Wrap it in foil.
Really?
No.
Yeah.
Wrap your veggies in a bit of foil.
Is that what you just said?
With an onion.
With an onion.
In the veggie drawer.
You're making a veggie soup right there.
Get a tatoe in there.
Put a carrot.
Yeah.
So cutting down.
So does that mean like people are trying veganism during lockdown?
If they're cutting dairy, meat.
I actually heard from a vegan who had gone the other way during lockdown.
Really?
They seem to have put off a very well, like not well cooked as in well done,
but a very on point medium rare steak.
Well, a vegan went to a steak.
They said at the start of lockdown,
they went into dairy,
went into the dairy,
like they slipped from vegan status.
Right.
And it started at a level four lockdown with some dairy.
Yeah.
And then that slip, slid, slid into chicken.
And now they were enjoying a steak and they said it was so yum.
Steak and bacon and meat lovers.
Yeah, right.
Do you think in the UK, though, it's more the fact that takeaways for them have been open the whole time
so that people have probably just got takeaways?
But then that would still count towards meat consumption, right?
Yeah, you'd just get takeaways with meat.
Of course you would.
But 41% have cut down on their meat consumption.
So it's a large, it's a big percentage.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Not fallen though.
I know I can't say my consumption.
Anything at all is cut down.
All right, 14 past six.
Heck, we're still on level three.
Yeah. Even though some of you,'re still on level three. Yeah.
Even though some of you, very naughty over the weekend.
People at parties.
Many.
I'm so naive.
What is wrong with people?
I'm just like in my bubble, doing the right thing.
Assume everybody else will be too.
Yeah, but no.
No, they weren't.
Well, there's something planned for level two.
Yeah.
Which makes me think we should set level three forever.
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Just reading about level two, which, you know, it was floated that,
what is it, the end of this week there'll be an announcement
or the start of next week there'll be an announcement?
As to whether or not level two can be.
A week today, isn't it?
Yeah.
But they're not going to give us next weekend.
They're going to at least wait until the weekend's done.
Right.
After everybody was partying this weekend.
Yes, there were so many reports and some prosecutions over the weekend.
And police just moving people on.
Yeah.
Bubble breaches.
People say we're extending the bubble, but there's rules to the extending the bubble,
isn't there?
Yeah.
Only two bubbles can merge.
No merging with other bubbles,
because then that's just going back to normal.
Yeah.
But a Auckland bar is saying
they want to do a dummy run party
to see how parties in level two are going to work.
Because there's rules.
I mean, this sounds interesting,
but you can have no more than 100 people indoors,
so the gatherings must be under 100 people,
and people must remain one metre apart.
It's going to be awkward, isn't it?
Because what happens when you have to walk past people
who go to the toilet?
Yeah.
Or you're waiting for the toilet or at the bar for drinks?
Yeah, exactly.
So kissing's banned.
Okay.
The bouncer patrols the dance floor to make sure everybody's standing one metre apart.
It's like a school disco.
Yeah.
Hard to get a dirty grind on at a metre apart, isn't it?
Hard to get a dirty grind on.
Exactly.
Hard to get a dirty grind on.
Police will do spot checks to make sure people follow the rules.
And bouncers will be doing temperature checks with those laser guns on the way in.
Oh, I want one of those laser guns.
You shoot it and check your temp.
Yeah.
So, Barona wants to do a test with some high-profile Aucklanders.
Oh, okay.
How's this?
Yeah.
For a party.
Okay.
Have you got the guest list?
I've got some of the guest list.
Right.
Auckland MP Nicky Kay.
Okay.
Former All Blacks coach Sir Graham Henry.
He's not coming.
He's not coming.
I'd imagine he's like me.
He wouldn't want to go out.
No.
He'd not be bothered with that noise.
Why would he?
It would be so loud and he talks quietly and mumbles.
No one would know what he's saying.
Yeah, right.
Just leave him.
Does he live on Waiheke Island or am I getting him confused with the Mad Butcher?
No, I think he might do it
because we've seen him on the ferry, haven't we?
Might have a place over there.
Okay.
Destiny Church's Brian and Hannah Tamaki.
Great.
I feel like you invite those two.
A whole lot of people aren't coming.
Yeah.
You know, like,
they don't want to even be seen in the vicinity, is there?
No. National's Deputy Leader Paula Bennett. Yeah. You know, like, they don't want to even be seen in the vicinity, is there? No.
National's Deputy Leader
Paula Bennett.
Okay.
Māori Party Co-Leader
John Tamahere.
Yeah.
Band members from True Bliss.
Yep.
And former MP
Hone Harawira.
Goodness me.
What?
That is a who's who.
What if this party goes wrong
and they all get the roans?
Heck.
That doesn't look like a very fun party.
No, maybe that's why he's invited those people
because they won't want to talk to each other anyway
so they'll stay the required manner apart.
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Online searches have increased by 134%
for how to cut a mullet over quarantine.
Wow.
Everyone is in lockdown.
How to cut in a mullet.
How to cut a mullet.
So that wouldn't be cut a mullet off.
That would be cut your hair so it looks like a mullet.
Because guys especially are suffering because they obviously get their hair cut more than I do.
I just get a trim every now and then.
But how to cut men's hair specifically has jumped 632%.
I would love to see stats on, in fact, I could probably Google quickly, head shavers.
I reckon head shaver sales would have gone through the roof.
In the central service.
I know so many guys that have just gone for buzz cuts.
Yeah.
Have just been like, oh, number four.
Just because, yeah.
Yeah.
Because even in level two, a hairdresser is going to be able to open.
I'll have a Google.
Level two hairdressers, New Zealand.
Because I don't want to like.
There's actually a level two in the hairdressing course.
Oh, right.
Right.
Because I need to go get my hair done.
I need to get my nails done.
And I just don't think it's going to happen for a while.
But that's the thing.
This is what I've been, maybe I'm fighting a losing battle,
but I said to Shadows, like, well, you haven't been able to get your nails done,
but like what's actually happened?
Nothing bad's happened.
No, but it just makes you feel nice
But it's just
Slap a bit of polish on them at home
You know
That chips off after a couple of days
Save some chingos
Well put some more on
I'll buy you two bottles if you want
Because that'll cost me less than
I'll get you a nice one from Farmers
Okay
A little sparkly one
Right
Save some money in the long term
But yeah no
That's the look and talk
I've generally been given at home as well.
New Zealand cell phones have been told they won't be allowed to open until we reach level two.
This is an oldish.
Right.
This was like a week, couple weeks ago.
Because at level two, you're still supposed to keep a metre distance.
But does that mean they might be able to cut here if they're wearing like a mask?
Like a good proper mask?
Maybe. Maybe.
And they've got very long arms.
Okay, so say they do open level 2,
they are going to be booked out for weeks. Hairdressers are going to be,
could do 16 hour days.
Like literally, couldn't they?
Like they will be booked out solid.
They will have a backlog.
Yeah, so there's going to be a lot
of correcting as well Because in this article
They've said
Look if you're going to
Cut your hair
Please use sharp scissors
Your nail scissors
And like kitchen scissors
Are not sharp enough
And they're going to
Ruin your hair
But
Yeah
People don't care
So get mum's sewing scissors
I know
And then get ready for mum
To be like
I bought good sewing scissors
Sewing scissors
But Andrew hasn't
Let me near his hair yet
Oh he hasn't
Let's see how long He can wait ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan Sewing scissors. Sewing scissors. But Andrew hasn't let me near his hair yet. Oh, he hasn't?
Let's see how long he can wait.
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From the ZM Think Tank, this is the top six.
There's been an expansion to the Facebook Reacts catalogue and there is a care reaction,
which means even apart we can be together and feel a bit more connected.
It's like a hug.
Okay, so this is perfect when a friend posts like that their dad's died or something.
That's exactly what I was thinking, because you feel weird hearting it.
Yeah, because you don't love that their dad's dead.
No.
And a thumbs up is not appropriate.
And sad.
I always just go love on that one.
Yeah, I always go love.
Yeah, someone's died, I would do the love, but now the care is there.
Because what are the other options?
Yeah, the sad.
You'd go the sad, probably the dad's died.
Or the angry, would you do that?
Maybe the angry.
But the care.
And then we're also going to start adding misinformation messages
to news feeds of people who share articles
containing false information
about COVID-19.
Good.
So what,
you get,
does it get headed up with
this is misinformation?
Misinformation, yeah.
This person divulges
in misinformation.
Does that mean that
someone at Facebook
has to go through and decide?
I guess it gets reported, right?
And then if that article
gets shared,
they can just associate it
to the link.
Which is good because I saw, I was reading an article this morning,
the anti-vaxxers are back.
So they've been very quiet in this world without a vaccine right now.
You didn't hear that.
I did an eyebrow and a huff.
Yeah.
I just assumed they died.
No, they're still going strong.
So what's their new take on things?
Oh, just that they don't want a vaccine
Oh, what do they want?
Just more death
They don't have to use it
They want death economic
When one's available, don't use it
And economic collapse
Gotcha
Yeah
Gotcha, buddy, gotcha, pal
Well, if the care react is happening
Here are the top six other Facebook reactions we need
In these times
Number six, a cheers
to that. Most people have got a drink
on the go about 80% of the time.
So you might as well be like a little cheers.
You just have the little emoji
of the beer. Hand on the glass. Yeah.
To indicate elevation. Yeah.
Bit of a cheers reaction.
I like that one. Number five on the list
of the top six other Facebook reactions
we need in the current climate.
Track pants. That just lets
people know that you're looking at their posts while wearing
loose-fitting track pants.
That's just, I want you to know I'm in comfort.
Food. Track pants.
Some track pants. I'm putting on my eating track
pants. Number four
on the list of the top six other Facebook reactions
we need is an off switch.
And that's just indicating to your friends that you think they've had enough internet for the day.
So you should probably just chill out on that now, I reckon.
A thanks Facebook reaction is number three on the list of the Facebook reactions we need in times like these.
Thanks, now I'm hungry again.
When somebody shared their latest culinary creation. You're like, thanks, I'm just eating, but now I'm hungry again When somebody shared their latest Culinary creation
You're like thanks, I'm just eating
Now I'm hungry again
Or just like any kind of recommendation
What would the emoji be though?
Thanks
Like a give up shrug
Like an arms up in the air shrug
Thanks
Number two on the list of the top six other Facebook reactions we need is,
I didn't read this.
I'm just politely smiling to show you I'm an acquaintance.
Yes.
You're like, yep.
Yeah.
Tee-dee-dee.
It can be one of those fake smiles that you give when you realize you haven't listened to the sentence somebody's just said to you.
You're like...
Yep.
Just a gentle nod. A nod shake.
Yeah.
And number one
on the list of the top six Facebook reactions
we need. Number one
is a movie. I'm supposed
to be watching a movie so I can't really concentrate
on either of what I'm supposed to be doing.
I'm about to ask my husband
what just happened
even though if I hadn't
been on my phone
I'd know for myself.
Sounds like your weekend.
Is it a sore spot?
Well,
it's constant
but lately,
yeah,
definitely.
Yeah,
right.
What just happened here?
What just happened here?
Who's this?
What just happened here?
That is today's top six.
Guys,
it is a big wig for the Hutt City Council.
In charge of, this is the council in charge of the Hutt's upper lower pizza.
Jabba.
Jabba.
And your tree hut.
The hut, yes.
All tree huts.
Yes.
The Hutt City Council this week will decide if they are going to create bylaws that impose limits on cats.
What kind of limits?
Like how many cats you can have.
So last year they said we might look at limiting the number of cats people can have.
And you know crazy cat people are like, oh no, you.
This is my freedoms.
So, and also cat curfews.
They talked about all these options.
They want.
How are you going to tell a cat to come home now?
Well, no, you get arrested otherwise.
It comes home, you feed it, and you shut the door.
Right.
Yeah, and I guess if you've got a flap,
you've got to put the little latches across on the cat flap.
Right.
We actually just had to move something in front of the cat flap.
Why?
Because the cats were unlocking it.
So advanced.
Have they developed the unlocking skill with their paws?
Yeah, they would push it around.
Yeah.
But the weird part was it's got a lock on each side.
I'm guessing that's to stop the cat,
but I don't know if they're doing it one at a time.
Yeah.
Like a team effort.
Push it open.
Yeah, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
Oh, and then get the paw underneath.
Yeah.
That's so smart.
I know.
So I was like, ha,
and I put a chilli bin in front of it
and put heavy things on the chilli bin.
I was like, let's see you move that, cats.
So they outlined last year a report,
and this is the week that they vote on it,
that would impose cat limits and cat curfews
and include microchipping,
which are for mandatory de-sexing,
which you should do.
Otherwise we'd end up with, you know,
heaps of kittens and cats everywhere.
Yeah, and cats must wear collars with bells on them.
Must. Yeah, and cats must wear collars with bells on them. Must.
Yeah.
But it turns out that they did a big survey in the hut.
Nearly 4,000 or just over three and a half
or nearly three and a half thousand people.
And yeah, people didn't want bells.
Oh, they're annoying.
They didn't want bells and collars.
And they didn't want to have to make cats stay inside at night.
So it looks like the council, on their agenda this week,
will vote for...
There's no problem here.
Is this a bird life, wildlife situation?
Maybe, yeah.
Are there too many cats?
How many cats?
Does it have an estimation of how many cats are in the hunt valley?
Not in this article, Vaughan.
Right.
I am for it.
How many?
I don't think anything's coming back for this Google search.
Why don't people want their cats to stay in at night?
Because they run across their face and stuff.
Yeah.
And meow and meow.
And they wee and they poo.
Well, then don't get a cat.
Yeah.
Get a little box and shut it in the laundry.
Yeah, I can't find a number.
It did, though.
When this news story came out last year,
it did say they were wanting to limit cats to three per household.
Who needs more than three?
I know, right?
You're lower.
Because that's right, like dogs do get a shorter leash, excuse the pun, than cats.
Yeah.
Like dogs, your dog's not allowed to just jump the fence and roam in the neighbour's
place, whereas cats do it all the time.
Yeah.
And you have to be a responsible dog owner.
You have to pick up your dog poo
whereas cats just will nip a poo
in somebody's veggie garden
and you'll never know about it.
Yeah, because they cover it up.
It's very good behaviour.
I literally thought I was
going to die this morning
because the big black cat
from across the road
jumped out at me
when I was going to my car.
My blood ran cold.
I was like,
this is how I die.
But it was just the cat.
I was like,
I can't hear you.
What did it do?
Jump out to attack? It jumped off the fence and I was like, ah! how I die. But it was just the cat. I was like, get out of here. What did it do? Jump out to attack?
It jumped off the fence.
And I was like, ah!
Oh, to attack you.
Or just.
No, I think I just scared it.
Maybe you startled it.
Yeah.
Maybe right now it's on the cat radio show saying that the big white human from over
the road.
You called it the big black cat.
I was just, the big white human.
It was big enough for me to
think it was a human.
Like meow, meow, meow, meow.
Meow, meow, meow.
And that translates to, yeah, I was just
having a sleep on the fence.
This human
comes from nowhere.
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Revelation, just in studio
that Vaughan ate Special K at the weekend. I think Special K's delicious.
Yeah, and you know what I did straight afterwards?
What?
I made a complaint to the manager.
Did you?
I just felt overwhelmed that I had to, so we need to investigate that.
Special K's are cereal for women in their 40s.
Is that why you've gone for like a choppy mid-length hairdo?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
I teamed it up with some Activa yogurt.
Okay, yeah.
Goodness me, my PMT-related constipation, gone.
Excuse me.
I don't know.
I feel like I should be really offended by what you just said.
But I'm not wrong.
That's the thing.
You can't be offended because he's not wrong.
The government in the UK.
Yes, that's a thing. We've worked on wrong. The government in the UK. Yes, that's a thing.
We've worked on that.
The government in the UK.
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Yep.
Have released a definitive list on what you can eat
and how long past its best before date.
This is quite a good idea from them
because it's a government list.
So people will trust it.
Yeah.
And as
people, we waste so much,
don't we? Like you think about stuff that's in your
pantry, in your fridge, in your cupboards.
It has to be really nasty for me to throw
it out. Yeah, I'll always go past it
because that's the thing. Expiry dates, no.
They're there for a reason.
Best before. You can get
weeks and months on those things sometimes.
It's an indication, isn't it?
So here's a list, and
there's even things on here that I would be like,
meh.
First of all, crisps, so chips.
Like in a bag. Ripples.
Chips. One month after it's
used before.
Why? But also,
I've never ever looked at what their
best before is.
Is it like two, three years or something?
I don't know.
I actually don't know.
They last forever.
And even if they were a little bit stale, I'd still eat them.
Especially if you haven't opened the bag.
If they were open, they're going to be good for a long time.
Ever, ever.
So they say a month after the best before.
Biscuits, six months.
Good luck.
My answer to these ones are what's the worst that's going to happen?
Yeah, the chocolate on the biscuit's going to get a bit...
White.
Yeah, that's the thing.
The chocolate would be white on a chocolate biscuit if it was really old.
Give that a wipe.
Good as gold.
Or just to run under a hot tap.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Totes.
No one will know.
I'm not saying give it a wipe with the same thing you used to wipe the bench.
Yeah.
Give it a wipe with a fresh one of those or a paper towel.
I'd pat it with a paper towel.
Yeah.
With hot water.
On a paper towel.
Pat, pat, pat, pat.
Or a damp, hot paper towel.
Just a quick pat.
Take away the white on the chocolatey biscuit.
Yeah.
You could probably give it a quick microwave.
Would that do anything?
It might ruin the integrity of the biscuit.
I'd just close my eyes and eat it at a sense.
I didn't even close my eyes.
I'd lick off the white stuff.
I'd compartmentalise the whole thing,
like Vaughan 1 licks the white stuff off
and then Vaughan 2 eats the biscuit.
And then I'd leave and then I'd forget Vaughan 1 ever existed
and then Vaughan 2.
Do you do that with lots of things in your life?
Yep, yep.
You compartmentalise the stuff you don't want to have to do,
the bad stuff, and then you bury it.
And you say to the officer,
that was actually Vaughn 1 speeding.
So what happens when Vaughn 1 goes to prison?
No, Vaughn 2's not doing,
Vaughn 1's not doing anything prisonly.
Right.
But he's just doing stuff that Vaughn 2
doesn't want to have to deal with.
That's how it starts.
That's how it starts.
Shade 1 says, Vaughn 2, did you lick that biscuit?
I'll be like, you are not, you took on the wrong Vaughn.
Is this also the start of schizophrenia?
It might be.
Sure.
That's what Vaughn 3 would say.
That guy.
Yard.
Cereal, six months past its best before.
Okay.
Canned meat.
Do you want to have a guess?
You know, when this all started happening, I bought two lots of Spam.
No, I bought Spam and I bought palm corned beef.
One tin of each.
Okay.
Yuck.
Just because I really liked it growing up.
My Nana would make this like real yum corned beef sandwich spread.
And I still haven't opened it.
I might do that this week actually.
She might like a potato hash with it.
Like a tin.
Yeah, that would be so good.
Like a tin of tuna.
That would last forever,
wouldn't it?
Yeah.
Millennium.
I didn't think about
what other canned meat is there
apart from corned beef and tuna
because they're both really salty.
Oh, you get that chicken in a can?
That chuck chuck chicken?
Okay.
So they're saying 12 months
past its best before.
Recommended,
yeah right.
But it's all put in
like a lot of sugar,
I don't know,
a lot of salt and preservatives
so it's going to last.
Yeah.
Canned soup,
12 months as well.
Okay.
Chocolate and lollies.
I don't know
if they had a best before
but 12 months after,
you're just eating those.
But again, if it's chocolate, just use the paper towel.
Yeah.
Pasta sauces, 12 months.
Pasta used by, okay.
But what about like a creamy one?
And what if it's been opened?
Oh, no, no, no.
No, no, no.
This has been opened.
None of these rules apply if you open something.
Yeah, these are opened.
Yeah.
I'm unopened.
Dried pasta, three years. It's been open. None of these rules apply if you open something. Yeah, these are opened. I'm unopened. Dried pasta, three years.
It's dry.
That would be fine for it.
Like rice and pasta would be fine forever, wouldn't it?
Yeah.
Just get the weevils out of it.
Maybe not rice.
Maybe not.
Why not rice?
Why not rice?
I don't know.
I mean, as long as you keep it like dry and airtight,
it would probably last a while.
But no, I just feel like pasta would outlive us all.
No, rice is the original grain, isn't it?
It just stays dried.
It's the OG.
Yeah, whereas pasta's been made, hasn't it?
Yeah, but that's why I feel like pasta's going to last longer.
Oh, right.
Okay, good.
That's a fair point.
Yeah.
Especially the stuff that you buy that's been made and then dried.
That's got some stuff in it.
They say bread is two days after it's been before,
but you just scrape off the mould, right?
You can't see the mould in the toaster.
If you're having trouble scraping the mould off your toaster,
and whatever mould survives, it's easier to scrape off
because the bread's been toasted.
You're welcome.
I've definitely eaten mouldy bread.
And the longest one here is jam.
That can last three to five years.
Past its best before.
Yeah.
Wow.
But that's just sugar, right?
Yeah.
It's preserved. Because I feel like for the people, the manufacturers,
it would be one of two things the best before date.
It would be you'd want to have enough of a date to cover your ass.
Yeah.
Correct.
But you'd also want people to buy more of your product
and chuck it out sooner, right?
Yes.
Yeah, true.
That's wasteful.
Because a jam company is never going to put a piece before
of like seven years, are they?
Because then you're never going to buy their jam
if it sits in the fridge or the pantry.
And it'll last, but you know how it gets that big crystallised
and then you can't open the lid
and then there's a bit of crust on the top?
Yeah, you chuck the knife in
and give it a stir.
Stir it right up.
Does jam still come in a tin?
That sounds weird to say,
but I distinctly remember
just as you were talking about jam
and the crystallising and everything.
I don't believe so, Vaughan.
A red plum jam in a tin.
In a tin? No.
Plum jam? In the trenches. red plum jam in a tin. In a tin? No. Plum jam?
In the trenches.
Red plum jam.
The best.
Yes, it's when we lost old blind old Mickey to foot rot.
It was November 1916, Eastern Front.
Particularly wet time.
Jam in a tin.
Jesus.
I'm sure we can jam in a tin.
Wow.
Jam in a tin.
I don't know, Vaugh't know I don't think so
I don't ever remember jamming
So the first grenades were jam tins
Were they?
So that was a New Zealand and Australian
That was what we took into World War
One
We made grenades out of jam tins
We jammed explosives
Into our jam tin
And then put a fuse in them and then hoof.
It's because we like eating jam, isn't it?
We love a jam.
We had all these tins lying around.
Is it Cotty's Jam?
Is that still a thing?
Oh, Cotty's.
No, Cotty's is legit.
It's yuck.
Y'all there.
Cotty's Jam.
Now that rings a bell.
Let me have a look at it.
That's an Australian brand of cordial drinks.
Yuck jam.
Don't get all in your high horsebacks.
Yuck jam.
What jam you like? It's just sugar and fruit. They're drinks. Yup, jam. Don't get all in your high horsebacks. Yup, jam. What jam you like?
It's just sugar and fruit.
Yup, jam.
They're not reinventing the wheel.
They did that on that show last week.
Did you watch that Eat Well for Less?
No.
So they had this family in Hamilton
and they were going through like what they ate.
I would never go on this because-
Oh yeah, shame.
Judgment.
Shame.
Yeah.
And their kid, their kid ate a jam jar a week.
And that wasn't just on bread.
It sounds like it was just gobbling up.
Having a taste of jam after school.
He wasn't even that old.
He was like four.
He hadn't even hit that after school sweet spot of coming home and eating everything out the cupboard.
I think he was just eating straight jam.
And that's what they said.
They said there's like bugger all difference between.
But then I can still taste an anathoth.
Yeah.
Anathoth?
Yeah, that's an Elsin jam.
Anathoth.
Anathoth.
Mum's just answered.
You used to call it grotty cotties.
Grotty cotties.
Yeah, it's grotty.
Oh, so you've been elitist about jams forever.
I've been a jam elitist.
I've been a jam elitist since I was a kid, yeah.
Basically. Probably through a tantee when mum came home with some grotty cotties. I've been a jam-a-later since I was a kid, yeah, basically.
Probably through a tantee when mum came home with some grotty cotties.
Oh, not you. You wouldn't throw a tantee, would you?
Well, while we're on lockdown, level three currently,
we've been setting homework and giving out some subjects,
dishing out some subjects, and having people report back
with a 60-second presentation the next day.
We're going to meet our students this morning.
Good morning, Luke.
Good morning.
All right, we're each going to give you a topic,
and you've got to choose from our topics.
Megan?
I've got to give one today.
Yeah.
Okay, so mine is about flamingos.
Because actually, it was over the weekend,
100,000 flamingos went into the metropolitan area of Mumbai.
Just went into a little lake area.
And also, side fact, Megan only found out that flamingos were real about eight years ago.
When I went to Auckland.
Yeah, you thought they were cartoons.
Incredible.
Same with reindeer.
All right, Luke, my subject that is up for grabs,
the history of elevators.
Oh, interesting, okay.
How long have they been?
Yeah.
I did a project on that in year three, actually.
Oh, okay.
Well, there you go.
About 17 years ago, yeah. Otis, Schindler.
That's Auckland lifts.
No, what?
That's one of my buildings in Auckland lift.
Oh, really?
I'm out of lifts, so that's it.
Vaughan?
My subject today is the maidenhair tree.
Not the fern.
You should have done World War II
World War I
jam grenades.
But we covered that
just before.
Okay.
The maidenhair tree
because I've got one of these
at my house.
Yeah.
And the other day
I was mowing the lawns
and I was like,
what is that smell?
And it is the most
ungodly smell.
It smells like a mixture
of vomit, death and poos.
Oh, there's one by my house.
It's a vom smelling tree.
The berries come up.
The berries!
I've always wondered what these are called with the funny leaves.
The ginkgo tree.
Okay, so what's it called?
The maidenhead tree.
Or the ginkgo tree.
Okay, Luke.
Because I've done a little bit of research on it.
A fascinating tree.
I'd like to see Luke's take on it.
Okay, Luke, which subject would you like for homeschool?
Oh, I think I'm going to have to go with the born fascinating tree.
Okay, good.
Good man.
I think these trees should all be cut down too because they're stanky.
No, no.
And Luke will tell us why.
All right, that's tomorrow.
Thanks, Luke.
That's your homework for tomorrow.
Kim, good morning.
Morning, King. How was your weekend, Kim. Kim, good morning. Morning, Tim.
How was your weekend, Kim?
It was pretty good, just chilling out at home.
You weren't one of these people that had a party.
No.
Good.
I don't think any of our listeners would be so foolish.
You think our listeners are law-abiding, good, bubble, respecting, level three, respecting.
Good.
Yeah.
Introverted. recloses.
I'd like to think that too.
Kim, so the options left for you are flamingos or the history of elevators?
I'm not sure it's flamingos.
Yay!
Fantastic.
All right, well, Kim, you've got a whole day, a whole night
to prepare your 60-second presentation onamingo's Tomorrow for Homeschool.
Good luck.
ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
A couple of Auckland restauranteurs
are calling out influencers
and influence culture.
They are saying they're
trying to take advantage of local
businesses because
influencers are asking for
free desserts.
What?
Not all of them, obviously.
There's just a few that are, when they place an order,
are asking for something, dessert, a treat or something free.
How do they go about doing that?
I don't know.
Hey, person that's not been allowed to be open for four weeks
and now is probably
going to just be working their
ass off to break even again
as a lot of people are struggling.
How about you chuck in a lava hot cake?
Like, what's the
approach?
Yeah. So this is
Auckland Dessert Restaurant, Mian.
The beautiful creations.
Tell me more. Wait a minute, what?
Near my apartment.
There's a couple of them right near my apartment, literally.
Mian, what do I Google?
M-I-A-N-N.
M-I-A-N-N, yeah.
Like, they do gelato, like, amazing chocolates, desserts.
Little dessert creations.
Like, the macarons, like, amazing.
So you would want to post on Insta about them
because they're beautiful.
Oh, yeah, 100%.
Oh, I've been to the one in Morningside.
Yep.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, it's amazing.
It's incredible.
So they have not been open.
They did last week.
They did because I walked past and they had phone orders,
and I was like, is 10.30 in the morning too early for a gelato
or a chocolate cake?
No, you're supporting local business.
Hit it.
Good.
Okay, well, maybe I will today.
Time means nothing currently.
So they have posted, dear influencer, before you send that email asking us to collab in
return for-
Yeah, no thing.
In return for free products to post on your social pages, please stop for a second and
think.
Think about the restauranteurs, food producers that have had zero income for a month,
the possibility of 50% drop in revenue for the next few months.
Think about the people whom you are asking for stuff free from to boost your own profile.
We are all trying to sustain our businesses through Rocky Waters.
It's time for you to bring value to your local businesses.
Go and order some food from your favourite places.
Pay for it.
Post it. Feel good about it.
You just helped a small business.
Yeah.
And like...
Amen.
It's quite shameful, isn't it, really?
I can't believe that in this climate people were doing that.
Like just for a little free cake or something.
Well, I'm looking at the cakes.
They're like bougie.
Oh, yeah.
It's super nice.
You know, it's not your average popping into the bakery and putting up a $2.80 custard
square.
Like, they're $10 and stuff.
But also, like, how much do these influencers value themselves?
Yeah.
I'll give you a free mention for $10.
But also, look at the creations.
There's a lot of effort that goes into making them.
Oh, no.
I'm not arguing with the price.
I could spend $1,000.
$1,000.
They were saying as well, people will like,
travelling influencers will hit them up,
so they might be from another country.
So all their followers are in this other country.
And they're like, can I have some free stuff?
And it's like, well, no one's going to come and support their business
when they see that. They's like, well, no one's going to come and support their business when they see that.
They might like the post.
Yeah.
But they're not in Auckland
or Queenstown
or wherever you are
to be able to go and buy
and support that business.
That's true too.
I'm just going to,
this is,
I think this is also the place.
Do you,
but what about you with,
because you know,
you've got your,
you opened at the weekend
your cafe.
Yeah.
And you always put your
delicious donuts
and treats online. Do you ever get people hitting you up and they're like, you open at the weekend your cafe. Yeah. And you always put your delicious donuts and treats online.
Do you ever get people hitting you up and they're like,
I'll put one in my donut.
We did initially when we first opened, but we kind of just said.
But what did they say?
You only ask a South African once.
I stand ruined.
That's across the board for everything, by the way.
You'll only, it's like sticking your hand in a lion's mouth.
You'll only do it once. Yeah. No, we've
literally been asked face to face when people sit
down. They say, oh, I'm
an influencer.
And I can post about your food
and you can just politely decline and say
no, it's okay. You can post about it
if you enjoy it, but like, it's okay.
That's...
We need the money to pay for the food
that we're making for you, so.
That and me aren't just popping back.
Yep.
I had just this flashback to a hot chocolate I had there.
Yep.
The hot chocolate was so like thick,
you stirred it and you could almost stand the spoon up in it.
Oh yeah.
I know it's a, I go there, they do gelato.
I did a, they did a s'mores gelato once
and a lamington gelato.
It's next level. It's great.
Good on them. So if anybody's coming out of lockdown thinking, you know what? I didn't put on
enough weight. Me aren't.
I did those Les Mills class every morning.
I'm
looking to treat myself.
I'm rolling out of all these lockdown levels.
Rolling.
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Yesterday, it was quite a horrible day weather-wise.
Raining.
I was like, well, it's level three lockdown.
I'm probably going to just have to watch some Netflix.
Yeah.
Because, you know.
What else are you going to do?
It's a good thing when the weather's bad,
at least you don't feel bad about spending the whole day watching Netflix.
Yeah. Whereas for most of the lockdown, it was actually pretty don't feel bad about spending the whole day watching Netflix. Yeah.
Whereas for most of the lockdown, it was actually pretty good weather.
Wasn't it?
Yeah, it was.
So that was hard because you'd look outside.
You weren't allowed to go outside really, apart from exercise,
and you'd just see like blue sky and beach weather.
But even if it was the day where you didn't go for your walk,
you're like, oh, I should have.
It was sunny.
Oh, I should have.
Anyway, so yesterday I was like, well, if I'm going to Netflix,
I'm going to need some delicious snacks.
Yeah.
I'm hearing that.
And it was raining.
So I was like, there was a little break in the rain.
I was like, okay, now is the time where I can run across the road to the dairy.
So I went outside and I was walking across the road
and then the rain started again.
And I was like, uh-oh, I'm getting wet.
So I ran.
I was like, I'm going to have to run.
And I was in my slides.
So I was like, I've got to be careful because you're running in slides or jandals.
Very precarious.
Very dangerous.
Very dangerous.
Especially in wet conditions.
I know.
I know.
But it's starting to pour down.
I'm in the middle of the road.
I'm like, I'm now going to have to go from a walk to a run.
And it was at that moment, like maybe on the third or fourth step, just as I reached the
other side of the road,
that I pulled my calf muscle on the way to buy lollies.
Were you in socks and slides or just slides?
No, just slides.
Yeah, you could have avoided all this.
Socks and slides, the ultimate combo.
I don't think it was the fact that I was wearing bare feet and slides.
Compression socks.
Maybe if I limbered up before I went to the dairy
to buy lollies
yes
always stretch before
going to buy a party pack
because I did feel
because my calf muscles
were quite sore
over the weekend
because last week
I did lots of walking
lots of walking
and I could tell
that I'd done
maybe a bit too much
after you know
four weeks of Netflix
maybe I should have
eased back into it
yeah
and I was just like I can't believe I've pulled a calf muscle going to get lollies from the dairy you know, four weeks of Netflix, maybe I should have eased back into it. Yeah.
And I was just like, I can't believe I've pulled a calf muscle going to get lollies from the dairy.
Across the road.
You know, like last time I did this, I was running.
I was training for a run.
That's acceptable, isn't it?
To say to people when they're like, why are you limping?
Oh, it's because I've been training for a, you know, a run.
Yeah.
And I pulled a calf muscle or, you know, whatever.
Oh, yeah, I was going to the dairy to buy lollies and I pulled a calf muscle.
That's so embarrassing.
I'm going to have to lie to people.
No, that's a pretty good yarn.
I like that.
What kind of lollies were they?
Commitment to your lollies.
What kind of lollies did you get?
So I got a few different ones.
The Dairy of the Road does white M&Ms.
They import them.
Parallel imported.
So they've got me there. Yeah imported. So they've got me there.
Yeah, okay.
They've got me there.
You're in a corner.
And so when I was in there, I also got these new pods,
the s'mores pods.
Have you seen those?
No.
Yeah, because I don't normally like pods,
but they had s'mores on them.
So I was like, okay, done.
So you got M&Ms and s'mores pods.
That's what I got, yeah.
And a torn or pulled calf muscle.
And you had to hobble home.
And I had to hobble home, yes.
You lived across the road with your lollies.
And then walking to work this morning, I was like, ow, ow, ow.
Is physio open?
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
What, a foam roller?
Does that work?
Hit the foam roller.
Hit the foam roller?
I think you've got to wait till...
You'll need some lollies for that foam roller.
You'll get bored otherwise sitting there.
But foam roller, yeah, no.
So this morning I thought maybe we could share,
help me feel better about my embarrassing injury.
Have you ever got an embarrassing injury?
How did you injure yourself but it's embarrassing?
And you have to change the story.
Maybe like it's an injury, you know,
that people expect quite a full-on story to.
But no.
But no.
I don't think I have.
I've only got like gnarly stories.
You've got an embarrassing injury story.
What was my embarrassing story?
You fell off a stationary bike.
We went mountain biking.
No.
We were on a hard track.
It was muddy.
It was like off-road.
Yeah, see, if you were like, I was coming down this hill.
I was coming down.
I hit the ramp.
Popped the air.
It was like muddy terrain.
A gnarly air.
No, we'd literally been standing there a minute and you fell off your bike and tore.
What did you do?
I was.
ACL.
Yeah, I was.
Yeah, that's embarrassing.
In the mud though.
I didn't want to get my shoes dirty.
We were all in the mud.
We were fine.
Yeah. And what was the first thing you didn't want to get my shoes dirty. We're all in the mud. We were fine. Yeah.
And what was the first thing you two did?
Tried not to laugh.
We're all sharing right now.
We're sharing this morning your embarrassing injuries.
Like when I had to run over the road yesterday in the rain to get lollies.
And you pulled your calf muscle.
And I pulled my calf muscle.
As a minor pull.
It's still sore today though, right?
Yeah.
You're always, I get a lot of chicken legs, chat.
Yeah.
Don't I?
But minor skinny never hurt them.
I'm always pulling my calf muscle.
Yeah.
See?
It's because they're workhorses, aren't they?
What are they, shitty workhorses?
I'd have them euthanised if I were you.
Some messages in.
I was having a party at my house.
I was getting ready.
I somehow got my thumb stuck in my top
and I pulled my hand back hard to get free,
but my hand came free and I punched myself in the face.
I ended up with a bloody fat lip
just as people started turning up.
Oh, no.
Oh.
That's brilliant.
Briar,
what was your embarrassing injury?
I got stung by a wasp up the bum.
Were you
nude sunbathing?
No, so
I was young. I was probably like
11. I was in primary school
and we had those like
kilt skirt uniforms on.
Yeah.
And I don't actually know
how it would have happened.
My understanding is
I probably had, like,
a wedgie or something,
and I sat down on this, like,
stool outside,
and there was a wasp.
The wasp was like,
bleh!
The wasp was like,
I've got nowhere to go.
Help!
Wow. Oh, my God. Yeah. It was so embarrassing. Did the wasp was like, I've got nowhere to go. Help!
Wow.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
It was so embarrassing.
Did the wasp survive?
No.
So the funny thing is, I was like, what the hell?
And it really, like, stood up and looked,
and there was just this, like, mauled wasp, like, barely breathing.
What a way to go.
Did you end up with a cool nickname in school after that?
No, because I was like, I turned to my friend,
I was like, I think I just got stung up the bum by that wasp.
And she's like, let's go tell everyone.
I was like, please don't.
You are so lucky to have escaped a nickname from that.
I know.
Yeah, it hurt though.
Can you think of one just off the top of your mind?
Nothing appropriate. Nothing appropriate.
Nothing to broadcast.
But there's so many names that you gave to people who are inappropriate.
Talking about your embarrassing injuries.
And we've had lots of text messages about it.
I did a rope swing at a lake.
Oh, yeah.
When I was a younger lady.
Slid off it as I was letting go and I got rope burn.
No. Dana. Oh, no. Chest letting go and I got right burned. No.
Dana.
Oh no, chest.
On and around the Oh yep.
Okay, that area.
Wow.
South of the border
just like that song.
Some of the
Ouch.
Ouch.
I was waiting for my friend
to arrive for wine
so she arrived two hours late
as she'd slammed
her own fingers
in her car door
and broken two of them.
Oh.
Because when you're only one as a kid I always got her own fingers in her car door and broken two of them. Because when you're a kid,
I always got my fingers slammed in the car door.
Yeah.
Quite a few times.
Your parents.
No, the worst was if you were getting up out of the car
and you put your hand on that pillar
and the person in the car door in front of you
would get out of the car sooner and slam it
and your fingers were on that pillar
and you'd get the old pillar door combo. But your fingers were smaller. But if you were an adult and your fingers got slammed in,, and you'd get the old pillar door combo,
but your fingers were smaller.
But if you were an adult,
and your fingers got slammed in,
then they probably would break them.
Anna, what was your embarrassing injury?
When I was in university,
I got an exfoliating bead from face wash stuck in my eye.
They were so tiny, but should they hurt?
I don't know how,
so I kind of rubbed my eye raw.
Scratching the cornea in the eye.
Oh, my God.
Oh, wow.
Is that a microplastic, Anna?
Yeah, it was.
Let's ban those, eh?
Did they not ban them?
I thought they were banned.
I think we are banning them.
Since, yeah.
Right.
Yeah, that was little while ago.
So what, did you have to lie and tell people you'd done it some other way?
Well, I did end up getting to go to the eye doctor,
and I had to have like an eye patch.
Right.
Oh, cool.
It's kind of hard to come up with a cool story.
I looked like a pirate.
Maybe that's your story.
You've just done an Ancestry.com
test and you found out you're an 80%
pirate. Todd, what was your embarrassing
injury?
I was at
one of those trampoline parks jump.
This was a few years ago
and then I jumped into
the foam pits there
and obviously landed
a bit funny and broke my neck.
Jeez.
Wow.
Just casually.
Just a casual broken neck.
Hey?
I've done that.
I've jumped into the foam pit.
It's quite exhilarating.
Yeah, you get quite cocky after a few goes
and then I kind of just landed, I don't know, randomly
and then, you know, there's like a whole bunch of kids lined up to jump in the foam pit after
you.
And I was that guy that was like, oh, my back, like being pulled out of this foam pit.
Any of the kids that are crying because St. John's trying to get you out of the foam pit
on a stretcher and they can't jump in the foam pit?
Oh, I actually like walked out and then like went home and my parents were like, you've got to go to hospital.
Like, God say, we've got to get up now and take you to the hospital.
I love when your parents are inconvenienced by your injuries.
Yeah.
Thanks, Todd.
Maddie, what was your embarrassing injury?
I was in town, in Hamilton town.
It was about 3am on a Sunday morning, obviously.
And I was jumping at the front
of House Bar and then my heel went
down on an uneven surface and I
fell to the ground and
then I thought that I'd be okay so I worked
on it for five days and then I
found out that I'd broken my foot and
stripped all the tendons from my
ankle to my foot. How did you last
a whole week like that?
Well, I thought I better not make a deal out of it
because it was self-inflicted.
Yeah.
Brilliant.
Walk it off.
Your parents sound like my parents.
They do.
You did this to yourself.
Thanks, Maddie.
My boyfriend exfoliated so hard
that he woke up with no skin on his nose.
He had to tell his boss that he walked into a door,
but he actually exfoliated too hard.
What was he exfoliating with?
Sandpaper.
It must have been with a cloth or a glove.
Yeah, right.
He should have applied his nose.
Yeah.
Good lord.
Was he doing it too much?
You shouldn't exfoliate every day, should you?
No.
Somebody else said,
I was showing my kids on the trampoline
how to do a fainting goat.
I guess that's where you're just on all fours and you lock your things
and you fall over to the side.
And I really badly hurt my neck.
They had to go and get someone to help me get off
and we had to go to the doctor.
Brilliant.
So no fainting goats on the tramp.
Thanks for your stories,
making me feel better about pulling a calf muscle,
getting lollies, running across the road yesterday.
ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
Fletch, Vaughan and Megan's French Bingo.
The Celebrity Edition.
We are joined on the phone by Shortland Street alumni, Grace Palmer.
Good morning.
Good morning.
How are you?
I'm good.
I'm not a morning person, if I'm honest.
How's the lockdown been for you, Grace?
Weirdly quite busy.
Okay.
But I do, I really, and is it awful to say that,
I've had a lovely time.
I like the people that I'm with, so that helps.
My bubble's cool.
Yeah, we were saying the same.
Yeah, you can see the downside and you feel sorry for people
and you're empathetic,
but at the same time,
you've enjoyed yourself.
Totally.
Imagine if you just divorced someone
and then you had to stay in the same house.
I've heard of it.
We've heard stories of it happening.
Or decided in lockdown
that maybe you should get divorced.
Yeah, true.
That also.
So no, I'm very grateful.
I'm in a good space.
Who have you bubbled with?
My best friend and my partner.
So a small, intimate bubble.
It's a very intimate bubble.
It's a very small apartment.
So any bigger and it would be awful.
Okay, now how's the fridge in the apartment?
Is it stocked up for fridge bingo?
Oh, yeah.
Okay, okay.
Well, up against you today, Grace.
We're going overseas.
We're joined by the host of Pretty Depressed, the podcast,
Kimberly Crossman.
Good morning.
Good morning, guys.
Hi, Grace.
I'm very excited to go head-to-head today.
Yeah, Kim and I have got a lot of beef.
Really?
No, I love Kim more than anything in the world.
I can tell there's a bit of competitiveness here
in the tone of your voices.
I think I'm probably,
I'm like a queen of an oversell underdeliver,
and I feel like Grace is always very humble
and comes out just absolutely shining.
So I'm quite prepared to be humbled,
but I'm definitely going into this very confident.
How's your lockdown been?
Because you're overseas, right?
Yeah, I got kind of stuck in LA, but I'm like Grace too.
I think I feel I was kind of unemployed anyway,
so I was pretty happy.
And to be honest, having a bit of routine,
which I don't usually have, has been quite healthy for me.
But yeah, obviously not taking away from anyone
who's having a really difficult time.
But yeah, just for my own well-being,
it's been quite good to just be forced to just sit down
and just be quiet for a minute.
So it's been quite good.
And have you found that people have been really connecting
with your podcast during this time
because it's quite a tough time for people?
Yeah
I think overall
I would say that at least
from what I'm seeing everyone's a lot more
open to receiving tools
whether they do have depression or anxiety
like reaching out or being open
to kind of receiving some feedback or some
tools on how they can help or how they can help others.
So, yeah, it's definitely been really nice to have had something out there
and continually each week kind of giving you content that people are enjoying.
And, yeah, that feels pretty awesome to be part of that.
All right.
And how's the fridge stock at the moment?
Is it stocked up, Kim?
Yeah, I feel like if we get condiments on the randomiser,
I feel very confident.
I realise.
Yeah, there's always condiments.
All right, well, let's start the randomiser.
Legumes. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Okay, I'm just... I'm pretty sure I know what a legume is.
I don't.
I'm not sure.
Is it like a... I don't know what a legume is.
A bean.
No, what I know is I'm vegetarian,
so I'm meant to eat a lot of things, but I don't.
Like beans.
Who refrigerates beans?
Alfalfa, peas, chickpeas, lentils, peanuts.
I'm going to be honest, I've got nothing.
I put beans in the cupboards.
No, no.
Same, same.
This is fridge bingo.
Yeah.
Hold on.
Now I have some in the fridge.
Does that count?
That's cheating.
That's cheating.
That's actually cheating.
Minus a point.
That's genius.
That's the first time we've had someone
flout the non-existent rules of Fridge Bingo.
Oh!
Oh!
A non-dairy milk alternative.
Ding, ding, ding. Wait a minute. So does alternative. Ding, ding.
Ding, ding.
Wait a minute.
So it was dong.
Grace, you're dong.
Kim, you're ding.
Okay, but is that one all or are we both?
Yeah, I think we both definitely have.
What kind of?
We're so progressive, Grace and I.
What milks do you have, Grace?
What have you got there?
Okay, I've got an almond breeze Breeze Unsweetened Vanilla.
Oh, that's the best.
It's a very good milk.
I also have an Almond Breeze Original Chocolate.
So, yeah.
What is the chocolate one like?
I always see it and never want to...
Really, really good.
It's quite bad for you, but very good.
What about you, Kim?
What milk alternative have you got?
Yeah, I've got an almond milk and an oat milk.
Oh.
I notice no one's got any soy milk.
Good.
No.
All right.
Good.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh. Hot sauce.
You want a condiment?
Ding and dong.
Oh, there we go.
Ding and dong.
What kind of hot sauce you rocking there?
Grace?
This one is called Mrs. Balls.
Mrs. Balls hot sauce.
That's a chutney, isn't it?
Yep, there's also a Chipotle hot sauce here,
which is a Barker's hot sauce.
There's a few.
Yeah, good.
Okay.
We didn't ask Kim what hot sauce she had.
Sorry.
She's in America, home of the hot sauce.
Okay, sorry.
What kind of hot sauces have you got, Kim?
I've got Green Dragon.
I've got Uncle Dunkey's.
I've got Texas Kicker.
Tapatio.
Hot Sriracha.
I feel like hot sauce names are right out there with boat names.
Yeah, they don't sound like they're mucking around. All right, let's go to a piece that's just the first to buzz in.
The decider.
Oh!
Oh! Oh.
Oh.
All right.
A beauty product.
Dumb.
Oh.
Grace.
What do you think?
Grace.
I don't know if this counts, but it's duet.
It's like a pimple gel.
Yeah, that counts.
That counts.
Yeah, that counts.
Is that three?
That's three. Yeah, gel. Yeah, that counts. Yeah, that counts. Is that three? That's three, yeah, Grace.
Yay, Grace, you are the winner of Fridge Bingo.
Thank you.
I'm so honored.
I'm truly so honored.
But it did just occur to me that maybe Kim has a delay,
so she's in America.
Oh, don't worry about it, Grace.
Just take that.
No, no, yeah, take it.
Did you have a beauty product?
Kim, did you have a beauty product?
No.
I mean, I had something like an avocado, which, you know, could be multi-task.
Stop chatting.
I will give you something, Kim Crossman.
You're a crafty little fox.
You're cheating.
You're looking for workarounds.
Totally.
I like it.
I admire it.
Shortcuts.
I'm the queen of a pivot.
Love it.
Love it. Love it. I admire it. Shortcuts. I'm the queen of a pivot. Love it. Love it.
Love it.
Well, congratulations, Grace Palmer,
taking out our Celebrity Fridge Bingo edition this morning.
Thanks, Grace.
Do I win anything?
You got something to plug?
You want to plug something?
We can give you...
You win 10 seconds of free advertising.
Go.
Okay.
I don't want to waste it.
Maybe you guys send me a CD or something.
Do you even have a CD player, Grace?
Like, where would you even play a CD?
Maybe my car.
It's pretty old.
Okay, okay.
I mean, we can find a CD.
We'll send it to you.
I don't even know if we could.
Cheese grills. Cheese grills.
Cheese grills.
I'm not receiving anything in the mail, and I'd like really like to receive something
You just want something in the post.
We can probably assist you.
Yeah, just a letter.
We'll write you a letter.
Okay, we'll write you a letter.
Yeah.
Oh, yes.
All right.
That sounded genuine.
That was sweet.
Give Executive Intern Anya your address, and we'll write you a letter, your prize.
Congratulations, Grace.
And thank you, Grace and Kim there. Celebrity. I'm going to send on you at your address and we'll write you a letter, your prize. Congratulations, Grace. And thank you, Grace and Kim there.
Celebrity.
I'm going to send her a chain letter.
Then she's got to send it to seven people or bad luck.
Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM.
We opened our cafe.
I'm not above getting a plug-in right now.
Oh, do it, do it.
We've got a cafe and it's opened for pickups only.
But I have a wee tip for people who are going to get takeaways
and then you're opting for a pickup.
Right.
So when you go to get something,
they request you choose a pickup time.
Now I saw a restaurant in Auckland share this.
Okay. Lillian, it's a restaurant in Auckland share this. Okay.
Lillian, it's a restaurant.
It's really good.
But yeah, if you are- Who's been trying to get me to go there?
Are they a vegetarian restaurant?
Absolutely not.
Remember I said they did lamb?
I thought you were trying to trick me.
No.
Remember that time you and Caitlin tricked me
into going to that vegan cafe for breakfast?
It wasn't a trick.
I really like it.
I was tricked as well. And I went like, this is the menu. Where's the bacon? That place cafe for breakfast. It wasn't a trick. I really like it. I was tricked as well.
And I went like this with the menu.
Where's the bacon?
That place is hugely popular.
It's delicious.
Is there another menu?
I don't see eggs, no, and bacon.
Did you not get that raspberry brownie thing?
That's like legit.
Yeah, but that's what I wanted after my bacon.
That is the treat
you treat yourself with when you're a good
boy and you eat all your breakfast.
You're a good boy, you get to have breakfast dessert.
Breakfast dessert. Thank you.
That's so a thing.
So yeah, if you're selecting a pick-up
time for any kind of
takeaway food, select
a random as time.
Because everyone's selecting, because it's like when you're changing the volume on the TV.
Oh yeah, you stick to a quarter past.
Stick to the half an hour or the on the hour is what everyone's doing.
So it's causing a bit of a like congestion and you might end up waiting longer.
So what you need to do is pick a random as time.
Like even go 8.13.
8.47.
Yeah.
No, I don't like that at all.
Well, you just rock up and it'll be there ready for you.
I wouldn't go 8.47 because there'd be lots of 8.45ers.
I'd go 8.43 hangovers.
8.49.
Yeah.
Go an odd number.
8.17.
It also, yeah, it helps out the restaurants as well because it staggers their options.
Right.
When you opened, you were just doing takeaway coffee and treats.
Yeah.
It's hard with coffee because people will text in when they want the coffee.
But everyone's words just like a little bit earlier, a little bit late.
So you don't want to make it too quickly because it's just going to stand there and be yucky. 10 seconds in the microwave.
And I want them to have a good coffee.
Yeah.
Otherwise, I might not come back.
How were you doing it?
So we have a little
table across the
door. Yeah. And there's
about two metres between us and all the
cabinet food and you just kind of yell out your order
and then there's a little window where you pick up your coffee
and your food from
and you can text in beforehand what
you want. Our food's like up on
Instagram so you can pre-see what's on there.
Now, have you gone for a novelty delivery system?
No.
Like a little train.
What's a novelty?
You know, last week there was a person with a little train and it brought around the coffees.
I know, but how does that work when you get like a rush of people?
You just have to sit there waiting for the train.
No, you have it on a small track and then every time it goes around
you just pop the coffee on.
Right.
You're like,
oh, I thought some guy
was like popping it on
and you'd just stop at Petone
and the person would get the coffee off.
No.
Oh, okay.
No, that's nuts.
That's crazy.
And I saw someone had like a pedal
that you like,
you push out.
That was quite cool.
All of these things are so cool
but Andrew's not up for shenanigans at all.
He's a businessman.
Yep, straight.
Right, getting it done.
Had the window.
Yeah, I would totally be down for a train or like a drone.
So did you find that people-
A drone would be great because it would be coming in
and be like hovering and be spilling the coffee everywhere.
You'd be like, stand still.
That's so much fun.
And your drone's like, can't go any closer.
You're like, wait a minute, I've got to take safety off. And then take it off and it crashes
into them. And then the propeller
draft sucks up a bit of custard
or cream from one of
the treats and gets caught in the
rotor blades and
your drone's down.
That would be fun. Did you find
that people were doing those set times
at the half hour and top of the hour?
Yeah, oh yeah. Everyone's doing set times.
So choose an odd time.
Yeah, it helps out the
restaurant or the cafe or whatever.
And also you might get it quicker.
And how did you go? Were people turning up?
We sold out of goodies.
So yeah, thanks to everyone. I saw lots
of people sharing as well
our stuff online and pictures
and so that's very much appreciated.
If you have a favourite, do that. Yeah, support
your local businesses. Yeah.
And I mean, let's be honest, we all need that great coffee
after four weeks of instant.
ZM's
Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
Now, have you been paying attention?
Vaughan, Alan Smith,
this is your television show
along with Ursula Carlson
Hayley Sproul
and various
comedian guests
every week
you're filming
today in your
lounge again
no the outside
room
have you been
banished
well it's hard
because the kids
are home
right
and so
well you saw
what they were
like at the
very noisy
Django on Friday
night
they come in and they're loud and they're like we don't want to be on camera but then they keep walking what they were like at the... They're very noisy. The Django on Friday night.
They come in and they're loud and they're like,
we don't want to be on camera.
But then they keep walking in the background,
looking at the camera and they're like... And they go, hey.
Sort of just like you.
Yeah, be really loud and everything.
And, yeah.
So I'm doing it in the outside room.
Have you changed up the backdrop?
Nah, I was thinking about that.
You know, because I see a lot of people in front of bookshelves.
Have you got a bookshelf?
Well, I've got a shelf behind me.
Put Easter eggs in there, like.
Yeah, well, I've got a printout of Dr. Ashley Bloomfield.
Oh, do that.
Yeah, I've got that, but that was last week,
so I don't know if I changed that up with somebody else,
some sort of contemporary hero.
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Right now
It is time for
Fact of the Day
Day
Day
Day
Day
I want to tell you about a British writer and engraver
who over 200 years ago published a compendium
of bizarre medieval pastimes.
Okay.
His name was Joseph Strutt.
And along with being a writer and an engraver,
he was a historian.
Okay. And he put together, writer and an engraver, he was a historian. Okay.
And he put together, and it's really quite cool looking.
He's done illustrations of how each of the games works.
And it's got that real old school Renaissance period vibe to it.
Okay.
But today's fact of the day is about a game from medieval England called Hot Cockles.
Hot Cockles.
Okay.
Hot Cockles.
How Hot Cockles works Hot Cockles. Okay. Hot Cockles.
How Hot Cockles works was someone would be chosen to be the Hot Cockle.
Okay.
For example, Megan.
Okay.
I'll be the Hot Cockle.
Okay.
Because it says hot.
Okay.
Remember, you can call me anything if you put hot in front of it. Now, you would play with a large group
of people. Yeah. Now, you
pick another person.
Fletch. You put your head
in Fletch's lap.
Face down into his lap.
Now, while your head is face down in
Fletch's lap, your ass
is exposed.
What is this game? It is silently
decided amongst the other people playing Hot Cockles,
who will slap your ass?
Is this game appropriate?
Is there more to it?
And then everyone sits down and then you, as the Hot Cockle,
remove your head from Fletcher's lap and you have to work out
who slapped your ass.
Now, if you are correct.
Can I just be blindfolded? Like, why does my head have to work out who slapped your ass. Now if you are correct. Can I just be blindfolded?
Like why does my head have to be
blindfolded? It's the medieval times. Blindfolds were
an all time shortage. Okay.
This sounds like who ever invented
this game. What did someone on their lap? Yeah.
So and if you couldn't
guess you would then again have to
bury your head in Fletcher's lap
and have your ass smacked by somebody else
until you. What if it's a room of a hundred
people?
Or level three? I wouldn't imagine,
yeah. I mean, this sounds like a fun game
to play in your bubble.
If you've got a five to six person
bubble and you, like, Fletch, if you buried
your head on your own lap and smacked your own ass,
it'd probably be... It actually sounds pretty hot cockles.
It'd be a pretty quick game in my house.
In my bubble of one.
Who did that?
Who was it?
Oh, my God.
That was hot.
Was it the pot plant?
No, wrong.
Back in the lap.
I'd love to see that.
A one-man game of Hot cockles
Brilliant
I think there was a whole bunch of other
There was a solo activity
Where you would balance on a stick
Holding two candles
And that was to see
If you could do it for the whole candle
Because no one had watches
And timekeeping devices were expensive
But if you could sit on the stick and let both candles burn down,
that would be the aim of the game.
My Acquia's got a burn time of like 50 hours.
I want to pass the time.
I don't think you were going for it.
Imagine standing there with two vanilla bean coconut candles.
Whatever the flavour is.
At least it would smell nice.
French vanilla?
Yeah, French vanilla.
Maybe your Christmas pine?
Yeah, that's one of my classics.
French pears.
But the glass case can get warm.
Yeah.
So maybe you need to hold that on a coaster or something.
Okay.
Another weird thing I hope you do when you get home.
All by yourself.
So today's fact of the day is in medieval England,
there was a neat little game called Hot Cockles.
Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.
So a study's been done in the UK poll,
and it has found that after lockdown,
after this COVID thing ends and we get back to some kind of normal,
65% of people are going to boycott some companies
because of the way they have treated people and acted during this crisis.
Wow.
Because, you know, a lot of like airlines, for example,
a lot of them haven't been issuing, especially in America,
it's pretty bad, like not issuing refunds, giving credit,
but not even giving the option of a refund,
even though by law they have to.
Wow.
Yeah, people aren't going to forget just when this is over.
Yeah.
They're not going to forget that you treated them like dirt.
Well, yeah, and you think about all the online booking companies as well
that, you know, haven't refunded.
I mean, everyone's, we're all screwed, but, you know.
Flight Center were looking down the barrel of that, weren't they?
Yeah.
But they changed it.
They backed down on the cancellation fee.
For example, there was a family who booked a family trip
to Fiji
and it cost $2,300.
Yeah.
And the cancellation fee
was going to be $1,400
of that $2,300.
It's per person
like $300 or $400 a person.
Yes.
It's like $300.
Yeah.
So they said,
oh, we'll limit them
to $700 on bookings,
on group bookings and that.
And even then,
people were like,
no, no, no.
So yeah, they, no, no.
So yeah, they've apparently gone now.
If you book back down.
Right, okay.
See, that makes sense because if you were that family and you paid $2,300 and you were going to lose
pretty much all of it, you'd never book a thing
with them again.
No.
After this.
And so they won't, you know, they'll find it very hard.
So it's good that they've done that.
Yes.
But yeah, a lot of companies, I don't know, I don't think they're thinking, you know, they'll find it very hard. So it's good that they've done that. Yes.
But yeah,
a lot of companies,
I don't know,
I don't think they're thinking about the future,
are they?
No.
Because while you might-
Because I'm so,
what's the word?
Stubborn.
Stubborn.
Yeah.
Or I'll hold a grudge
on that stuff.
I'll remember that.
Oh yeah,
for sure.
I won't support a company
if they're,
you know,
going to roll people over
in a crisis
just because they want
to save some money.
We're all screwed.
We're going to do our best to help each other out.
But if they're not willing to do that,
we won't forget.
65% of people saying, yeah, they're boycotting.
Wow.
Yeah.
And so, I mean, even then,
like businesses here that are, you know,
the way they're treating their staff,
it's all going to, you know,
people will find out these things.
Unless we've got no other choice.
Then we'll just go crawling back to them.
Or if you come out with a really good special.
Then we'll just come crawling back.
We'll be back, baby.
We're quick to forget, eh, when there's a special.
Help us forget with a little special.
ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
ASOS, and I actually experienced this for myself
At the
Okay
Disclaimer
At the start of lockdown
We locked on ASOS because
My husband has a voucher
So that's why we were
Not spending locally
Just feel like
I don't wanna get
Trolled for that
Get out of your system
Yeah
So we went on ASOS
And I noticed this for myself
So it used to be that and I noticed this for myself.
So it used to be that delivery was free
for orders under $40.
Yep.
Or was it $50?
$40.
So now we noticed
that there was a $50 delivery fee
and it doesn't matter
how much you spend,
the $50 express delivery fee
remains on the order.
So even if you're spending like $100 or $200?
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
$50?
Mm-hmm.
And it used to be you just had to spend over $50 and it'd be free?
Yeah, or $40.
$40 or $50.
Okay, wow.
And there's no other options for delivery.
It just says New Zealand Express.
And when I looked into this, I was like, something's wrong.
I didn't even think about COVID as an option.
Yeah.
But in the frequently asked questions,
it said because of the worldwide situation,
there are limited flights.
So you have to pay $50 for delivery now.
Wow.
And I'm guessing it's taking,
will they be shipping a lot of stuff now instead of?
Maybe.
Maybe. Yeah, I don't know. With flights though, every they be shipping a lot of stuff now instead of? Maybe. Maybe.
Yeah, I don't know.
With flights though, every time I hear a plane now.
I know.
I'm like, plane!
They're plane!
They're plane!
And I get out Flightradar and I check what it is and so many of them are cargo ships.
Planes.
Yeah.
Yeah, because I live by the Air Force and the other day they were like flying around
heaps and I was like, oh my God, what's happening?
What are they doing?
But then my friend said
that they were just practising
because they've got nothing else to do.
I thought they were doing
some transporting too.
Probably.
I think they've done a little.
Executive intern Anya,
we go now to the producer studio.
Have you been online shopping?
Has this affected you?
Yeah, it has.
It really has.
So the iconic do this thing where you return it and then you get 110% store credit. affected you? Yeah. Yeah, it has. It really has. So, the Iconic
do this thing
where you return it
and then you get
110% store credit.
So, Mama's got
a lot of store credit
in the bank.
Is that you
just covering yourself
like Megan did
so that you're not
trolled for not
supporting local?
Basically, yeah.
I'm sort of an investor
in the Iconic.
Because what do we do now?
Do we just go to Posty Plus
and buy Cardi's?
No, there's lots
of New Zealand retailers.
Easy Buy, Posty Plus, the House of G.
Oh, my God.
House of G.
Pagani.
Okay.
NBA ordered a couple of warm jumpers, like, the 4th or the 5th of April,
and they still have not come.
Wow.
And so, but was yours free delivery?
Yeah.
So they're still doing free delivery, but it's just a disclaimer.
It might take two months to get there.
Or a month as it has been.
Yeah.
Wow, okay.
So hopefully that comes soon.
But, you know, no pressure, guys.
We're all busy.
That's fine.
You take your time.
Now, have you been cutting down your online shopping for stuff?
Yeah, because I don't want to wait a month.
Oh, so it's not the fact that, you know, we live in these tough times now.
Oh, and I do. Yeah, I am trying to support some live in these tough times now. I am trying to
support small local.
I haven't bought anything.
I think this might have
been what I needed to break the cycle.
Until there's a sale.
And then I'll support local and get
amongst the sale.
That's going to be the real test because
I've seen a lot of people, and not just for shopping,
but like exercise or eating,
or not like spending money on takeout,
cooking at home and stuff.
I've seen a lot of people claim
that this has changed it.
But it'll be interesting to see
when it goes back to being able to get it.
I'll forget.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But then it's also good to be able
to get takeout and support the locals too.
Yeah.
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