ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 4th November 2021

Episode Date: November 3, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The ZM Podcast Network. Play. ZM's Fleach, Vaughan and Megan. Hello, welcome to the Fleach, Vaughan and Megan podcast. Thanks to Mick Cafe, barista made coffee available from drive-thru Mick delivery at level 3 and dine-in at level 2. Executive intern Anya has a DIY in the blood. Oh yeah. Adia, you've got a DIY project project happening is it today or this weekend uh supplies are being
Starting point is 00:00:27 ordered today and then the project commences this weekend okay so you're doing a little bit of painting again uh no we are trying to build a fence my partner and I now have you got you are you getting help from anyone like a professional? No offence? We've been watching their Marta 10 videos where that guy tells you how to do things.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Stan to build a sexy Stan. Yeah, yeah. He's very helpful. Wait, what do you mean building a fence? The whole fence? Foundations, posts? Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Or are you repairing a fence? We are getting it dog safe. So... Oh, so you're not like building a whole fence? Like parts of it. I'd say there's like three one-meter sections that need to be dog-proofed for future Captain Floofs. Fence or gates? Both.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Okay. There's a mix. I love how they've both glazed over the fact that you're dog proofing your house No she told me she's going to do foster dogging Yeah Oh that's my dream when I'm old I can't fault a foster dog Thank you you can't roast me for charity
Starting point is 00:01:34 No for looking after poochie smoochies poochies You can always give them back too if they're shitheads That's my plan Yeah That's how it works right Totally Yeah It's like being an auntie or an uncle
Starting point is 00:01:44 Yep You get to swoop in Give them a noisy drum set Be a pain in the ass That's my plan, yep. Yeah, yeah, totally. That's how it works, right? Totally. Yeah, it's like being an auntie or an uncle. Yep. You get to swoop in, give them a noisy drum set, be a pain in the ass, rock them up, hype them up, give them sugar and then scarper off home and leave the parents to deal with the trouble. Can't wait until you have to like foster an Alsatian and it really tests your dog fence. Yeah, and your couch.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Now, do you... Mind you, Alsatians, If anyone escapes from your premises You better just set them off the chain Put the spotlight on them, sound the headlights on And they'll run them down like a prisoner of war You'll be a shoo-in for community watch Your neighbourhood group there If you've got an Alsatian on a leash
Starting point is 00:02:15 Now does Mr Bun Buns have any kind of carpentry skills at all? None whatsoever I'm really worried about this What he does have is a good attitude And that's money can't buy stuff. Yeah. Oh, God. I mean, attitude doesn't always replace skills.
Starting point is 00:02:30 I don't want to go into surgery and hear that my doctor has a great attitude, but no degree. And he's watched some of those Stan the Builder, Mighty 10, mega surgical instructional videos. I reckon he'd be pretty sweet. Thanks, Rachel. Good morning, welcome to the show Fletch, Vaughan and Megan Three minutes past six
Starting point is 00:02:51 Got it It's a different bumper word fit this morning guys Oh my god It's got two 12 letter words in it Right And since I've been back on the bumper word fit buzzers To get the brain working Yeah, okay
Starting point is 00:03:04 There hasn't been too many, but there's a couple of 12s and a couple of 11s. Right, okay. Which is wild. Usually you sit about your 8, your 9s. Yeah. It's a different game. Cool, man. Thanks for changing it up, Herald Puzzle People. Why haven't we met the people? Because we
Starting point is 00:03:19 work for the same company. Yeah. Don't hold that against us. And have we ever met the puzzle people? What a great job. They probably just buy them. What world do you live in? There's no one upstairs that's coming up with those. They buy them.
Starting point is 00:03:32 The puzzle people, they've got to put the puzzles in. Yeah, it's literally a four by six square Vaughan. They just get them from overseas. Yeah, but I want to know who picks the puzzle that's going to go on the paper that day. It'd be like the layout people. Yeah, layout person. Yeah, well, that's who I want to meet. I'm a new MVP.
Starting point is 00:03:47 That's the make of the puzzles. The puzzle page. Look at this. That's two pages of puzzles. Right. You know you've got a job to do, right? We've all got a job to do, man. But, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:58 You do that in your own time, please. What about a little bit of wellness, you know? I'm looking in. Right. Okay. I was the most excited. I've heard him for a while? I'm looking in. Right, okay. I was the most excited. I've heard him for a while. I'm taking some time for myself. It's holding here.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I'm all getting flustered over puzzles. All right, the top six is coming up. Facebook has said it will delete facial data it has on a billion of its users. Yeah, they're calling them face prints, like fingerprints. That could, we could have been. Statistically. Oh, 100%. Someone as part of the show would have had their face prints, like fingerprints. We could have been, statistically, someone as part of the show would have had their face scanned. Probably mine, because it's the best.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Probably, yeah. Mine's the nicest face here. We'll let you have that. It's the most aesthetically pleasing thing to look at. The eyes are about right. The nose is a cute little button. The ears are a good height. The whole thing.
Starting point is 00:04:42 There's no pesky hair, like, drooping down over my forehead to block this beautiful face. Excuse me. It's a hell of a face. But the top six facial features of yours that Facebook's trying to forget. All right. Seven o'clock. We're going to kick it off today.
Starting point is 00:04:58 It's a blitz for Secret Sound. Every single hour until five, giving you the chance to have a guess at the Secret Sound All Thanks to Neon. If you can tell us what this is and you get through, $50,000 cash is yours. Next on the show, the top 100 movies from Rotten Tomatoes. It's going to be a long voice, right? I'm going to give you the top 10. Now, these are from reviewers.
Starting point is 00:05:27 And so the top movies have like 400 or 500 reviews each. Is it like critics or normal? Yeah, critics. Okay. So the top 10 critic movies, and they're all quite modern. I think you say like critically acclaimed. Critically acclaimed movies, yeah. But they're all quite modern.
Starting point is 00:05:42 There's no oldies in there. Oh, okay. I'm guessing the Rotten Tomatoes wasn't around then. Oh, perhaps, yeah. So they couldn't give their reviews. Maybe. Because, yeah, it misses out all those classics. Yeah, so the top ten next.
Starting point is 00:05:57 So the Rotten Tomatoes list is out the 100 movies of all time. Now, to be on this list, there have to have been 40 or more critic reviews. Oh, okay. That's good. So, and that's why you won't see old movies on this list
Starting point is 00:06:12 because, I don't know, when Gone with the Wind came out there, probably... It was one movie reviewer. Yeah, probably. And it was in the newspaper. Whereas these are all
Starting point is 00:06:22 online reviews. Right. Could they add those reviews posthumously? Don't know. Don't know. I don't know. I'm not in charge of this. You're not running it.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I'm going to give you the top 10. And with 528 reviews. Can you give me the top 11? I always feel like the next one, number 11, is something good that you're missing out. Can I give you 12? You can give me 13. No, I'm not taking an uneven number.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Well, it's uneven, but it's also like a high-profile uneven number. Like, unlucky 13. You know, like it's really... I'll give you 12. 13. I'll give you 12. Okay. A Quiet Place.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Oh, great movie. With 96% on Rotten Tomatoes, nearly 400 critic reviews. Inside Out is 11. 98%. Inside Out, oh my God, yeah, that'll destroy you. A Star is Born. Oh, I can't watch that again. It ruined me.
Starting point is 00:07:16 It's a good movie. 13 was Coco. Coco. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. I Googled it. 14 was Dunkirk. There we go. An even number. Oh, 14 was Dunkirk. There we go. An even number.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Oh, yeah. An even number. What about 15? Because 15 to me, it's a multiple of five. So it's halfway between 30. It's 50. Like multiples of five to me. It feels like a good pillar.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Yeah. A semi-honorary even numbers. No. I would rather 15 than 14. Star Wars The Last Jedi. Thank you. Okay. Back into the top 10 movies of all time from Rotten Tomatoes.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Wonder Woman is at nine. Moonlight is at eight. Wait, what's Moonlight? I haven't heard of that. Moonlight is the movie... It won awards and stuff, right? It's won heaps of awards, yeah. Moonlight is the movie. It won awards and stuff. It's won heaps of awards. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Okay. Have you not seen this? Nah, it's 98% on Rotten. Did it win an Oscar? Yeah, it did. Yeah, right. Okay. It's a great movie.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Yeah, I've never seen it. Mahershala Ali? Yeah. He's going to be blamed. I can't remember how to say his name. Yeah, he's a great actor. He was in... Luke Cage.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I feel like what he was going to say is very different. No, yeah. A high-end acting thing. Green Book. No, the... True Detective. No. Oh, he was in that too.
Starting point is 00:08:38 He's going to be in Blade. Yeah. Okay. Jesus. He's got a lot of titles. Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse is the seventh biggest movie of all time on Rotten Tomatoes. That movie rules. Mad Max Fury Road is number six.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Oh, my boy. That was cool. That was a cool movie. It was all right. But this is like Vaughn Smith's list of cool movies. My list of movies is never at the top. You should be a critic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Sounds like it. You seem to be on the same page. Get Out is the fifth biggest movie of all time, according to Rotten Tomatoes. Good movie. Black Klansman is number one. Have you watched that? I have, yeah. Such a good movie. I listened to a podcast about it.
Starting point is 00:09:15 It's a true story, right? Yeah. 70s. Adam Driver. Adam Driver joins the Klan, but he's acting on behalf of a black detective. Is that right? Yes. He's undercover, right? Yeah, he's undercover.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It came out 2018. I was going to say it came out like five years ago. Close. Mission Impossible. Fallout is the third biggest movie according to Rotten Tomatoes. All time 100 movies. I think that's the Mission Impossible I haven't seen.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Is that the one where he holds onto the plane? Or is that the one where he's hanging on the Dubai skyscraper? How is that the third biggest? I feel like... Well, these are critic reviews. Lady Bird. Oh, no, obviously. That was the one where Henry Cav Cavill Pumps his arm guns
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah He goes And it's the Sexiest thing I've ever seen In my life Like if I had He had the moustache
Starting point is 00:10:13 Didn't he If I had lady parts They would have been In shambles After Henry Cavill Pumps his arm guns That's the one Where Tom Cruise
Starting point is 00:10:20 Flew the helicopter In Queenstown And did it in real life Did it in real life Yeah Lady Bird Is the second On the top 100 movies Of all time According to Rotten Tomatoes one where Tom Cruise flew the helicopter in Queenstown. And did it in real life. Did it in real life, yeah. Lady Bird is the second on the top 100 movies of all time,
Starting point is 00:10:29 according to Rotten Tomatoes. I have seen that. I haven't seen that. Is that Shurishan Ruan? Is that Shurishan? And Timothy, Timothy, Timothy,
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Starting point is 00:10:43 Timothy, Timothy, Timothy, Timothy, Timothy, Timothy, Timothy, Timothy, Timothy, Timothy, And the number one movie, according to Rotten Tomatoes, 100 movies of all time with critic reviews, based on critic reviews, Black Panther.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Wow. Black Panther rule. But it's not. It's not number one, is it? It's pretty cool. It's got action. It's a great movie. It's beautifully shot.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Well, there you go. Yeah. Cool, cool. If you need something to watch, there you go. Yeah. Cool, cool. If you need something to watch, if you haven't seen that, and the list is there, and it's 100 entirety. 16 was The Shape of Water.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Okay, stop. Stop now because it's an even amount. And 100 was True Grit. I only got halfway through The Shape of Water because I was like, what? It was a mermaid person from the swamp? Yeah. Merman. She fell in love with a merman. Yeah. Gotcha. All right, because I was like, what? It was a mermaid person from the swamp? Yeah. Merman.
Starting point is 00:11:26 She fell in love with a merman. Yeah. Gotcha. All right, next on the show. Four questions you should ask before getting a divorce. I'll see if I understand this. Is one of them, will you marry me? Play ZM's Flesh, Fawn and Megan.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Head of Adele's album, which is inspired by her divorce and the pandemic causing a lot of breakups and relationships, a bunch of relationship experts have revealed there is four questions you should ask yourself before getting a divorce. And there's also some red flags that can't be ignored. Okay. So the red flags are not necessarily reasons to get out. They are reasons to get out. They are reasons to, you know, investigate and communicate.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Right. So the red flags are cheating, lack of communication, lack of trust, and an unresolved problematic past. Some of the biggest red flags in a relationship. So they're even saying like cheating is not necessarily the end of a relationship. Well, yes, some people can forgive, can't they? Yeah. Beyonce. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Can forgive. Yeah, but she's holding that over his head at every second. You know that he just, he's going to be like, you haven't done the dish. I'll just do them. She just puts on the song. Yeah. Or she just looks and he's like, yeah, I know. So those are some of the red flags.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And there are questions you should ask yourself. If the answer's obvious, if the answer's negative to these questions, then, I mean, divorce is probably the next step. First question is, what is the main reason you want to leave? I guess if you don't know the answer to that, or it seems pretty trivial, then maybe you shouldn't get a divorce. How do you feel the majority of the time? Happy or sad?
Starting point is 00:13:12 You'd probably, if you're thinking about divorce, the answer is probably sad, right? Yeah. Are you always having fights about the same things? And do you think change will happen in the long term? It's hard when you're in it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:26 And you've already nagged someone a million times about it to see change happening in the long run. Well, that doesn't feel like change is going to happen in the short, long, or medium term. But those are the things you should ask yourself before you get a divorce. Oh. Because, you know, coming through one, it's not fun.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I would add a further question. How much admin is going to be involved in this? Yeah. Is everything in my name or their name? Do I have my escape fund plump? Yeah. Did you ask yourself those questions? No, but in retrospect, I think the answers were on the side of divorce.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Yeah, right. Had you asked yourself those questions? So those are good questions that you should ask yourself? Yeah, I think so. I think it's just even if you didn't have somebody, maybe ask yourself those questions. So those are good questions that you should ask yourself? Yeah, I think so. I think it's just even if you didn't have somebody, maybe ask yourself those questions today. You know, can you see self-improvement
Starting point is 00:14:12 in the long term? Are you always having fights about the same things? Yeah, with yourself. You could be. Get out of bed, you lazy shit. Yeah. Totally. It could work as well. Alright, 624, next on the show, the top six. Facebook have said they're going to forget one billion people's face features.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Yeah, they've had them all this time. Yeah. Let's forgive them. The top six facial features Facebook will forget about your face. From the bustling ZM think tank, this is the top six. Hello. Facebook have one billion face prints. It's like fingerprints, but it's faces.
Starting point is 00:14:51 So like facial recognition. Yeah. Yeah. To sell to the Chinese government. So when you go to China and they know where you are and what you've done there. Like we all knew this, right? Because remember ages ago, and this is going back, it'd be like, do you want to tag Vaughn in this photo? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Or tag Megan. And it knew that was you. Oh, yeah. Or it would send you a notification, but it looks like you've been tagged in a photo. Would you like to tag yourself? And you're like, ooh. And then you put up a photo and you've got to tag yourself,
Starting point is 00:15:19 and it's like, is this your dog? You're like, ouch. Or our ones would be like, is this Sade? You're like, ouch. Or that was, our ones would be like, is this Sade? But it would be Indy. And I'm like, what are they doing here? I always felt like there was something sinister there. Right, like they're trying to make you sit up on Facebook. And you'd be like, no.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah. But how did they think it was when this is a child? She's the child of Sade. Oh, they've got so much information on all of us. So much going on. So what, they're deleting it? A billion of them, so they reckon. God, they're really on a...
Starting point is 00:15:51 Is that not all of them, though? They've said a billion. They haven't said all of them. All of them. Yeah. God, they're really on a bloody PR. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:02 They're really trying to Make us forget They're evil So the top six facial features Facebook will try to forget about your face Number six How one of your nostrils Is a bit bigger than the other one That's a situation for everybody, right?
Starting point is 00:16:21 So don't be like freaked out about it You just maybe In your formative years You picked one a little harder than the other and it became a slightly bigger hole. Yeah. Number five. Stretched it.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Yeah, you stretched it out. You stretched your hole. Number five on the list of the top six facial features, Facebook will try to forget about your face. That one hair that you want to pluck from your eyebrows because it's not quite uniform, but you can tell when you pluck it, it's going to make your eyebrows look uneven.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Yeah. Those ones. You know, when you're trying to like just sort the monobrow out and you might just have one too many and then you look and you're like, I've gone one too many there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:56 He's going to have to give him a bit of time to grow back. Number four on the list of the top six facial features Facebook will try to forget about your face. How your mouth isn't perfectly symmetrical when you smile in the mirror at yourself. It's a smile practice, nigga. I don't remember having a stroke, but it's obviously happened at some stage.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Number three on the list of the top six facial features Facebook will try to forget about your face. That wrinkle that you have on your forehead that when you're looking at yourself in the mirror, you pull at? And you're like, what did it look like when that wasn't there? Oh, yeah, good. Well, you, like, try and make a conscious effort not to wrinkle it. Every time you look in the mirror, it's ruffled. Take me back to my youth! Aw.
Starting point is 00:17:42 That's actually an easy way to do a bit of a Jennifer Coolidge impression. Yeah. We'll have a cheese. You're going to come back from summer holiday with some fillers, aren't you? Oh, yeah, honey. Oh, my God. Sunday plans, but it sounds like green eyes. No, you can get Botox now.
Starting point is 00:17:57 It was on the news last night. I know, because somebody who works there has to be a medical professional. Is that right? It's a clinic headed by a medical professional. Oh, it sounds like a loophole to me. Whereas you can't go to a hairdresser because they're not a doctor. Yeah, right. Or something.
Starting point is 00:18:10 This sounds like a huge flex being like, I got a degree. Yeah. And people are all like, I'm not getting the vaccine, but pump me full of Botox. Yeah. At least I know what's in it. Poison. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Sheep. Following the media Shills Number two on the list of the top six facial features Facebook will try to forget about your face Insert your own tooth insecurities here Everybody's got a tooth insecurity You can fill that blank for you I'm not doing all the work today
Starting point is 00:18:43 And number one on the list of the top six facial features Facebook will try to forget about your face. That time your friend uploaded a photo of you and you had snot right at the opening of your nose. You untagged yourself, but it's still there. They still know it was you, old snotty nose. That is today's top six. The great resignation is a term that's popped up lately.
Starting point is 00:19:07 It is to describe a wave of people quitting their jobs as they felt disconnected and demoralised during the pandemic, maybe working from home. There's a relatively buoyant job market, which gives them options to go elsewhere. Well, yeah, they were just saying New Zealand's the lowest unemployment it's been for ages. So lots of options out there and less people travelling and
Starting point is 00:19:28 coming to New Zealand on like holiday visas. Lots of jobs. So apparently one of the side effects of the Great Resignation is that on the way out the door people are going to pinch stuff. The Great Theft. Yeah. Firms that fail to immediately disable their former employees' computer access run the risk of malicious revenge attacks on their systems. Exhibit A. A recent incident. There's a Cromwell-based Summerlin Express freight.
Starting point is 00:20:00 There was an ex-employee who ripped them off, used an unauthorised logon to access the firm's computer system, and tracked a truck called the Green Goddess that was transporting cigarettes and stole $10,000 worth of cigarettes. Whoa. That's an extreme. I was just thinking on the way out, taking your favourite office chair. Oh, yeah. A chair?
Starting point is 00:20:21 No, I was thinking like a ream of paper or something. Yeah, I was thinking a ream of paper or something. A bottle of milk. A box of pens. Oh, yeah, A chair. No, I was thinking like a ream of paper or something. Yeah, I was thinking a ream of paper or something. A bottle of milk. A box of pens. Oh, yeah, get some milk. These are actually pretty good pens, the company's pens. At the moment, yeah. Pens, and then at that end you can use it for a touchscreen.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Oh, yeah, nice. I love a pen with a touchscreen nib. That's good. A little rubbery touchscreen nib. So when you're laid off next week, do you want to take... I'll take a box of those. Is this news to you? It is news to me, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Soz. So yeah, people just taking things on the way out the door. The best part is, you know who they think the biggest risk is? Who? IT. Oh, really? Because they know the ins and the outs of like the security of it all. I thought they had like expensive technical gear.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Well, that's the other thing. If they steal things like computers, they know how to make them disappear. You could steal a RAM chip thing. Oh, man. So much RAM.
Starting point is 00:21:13 So much RAM. Oh, yeah. I'm going to steal all the RAM. I'm going to have the juiciest gaming PC with all this RAM I've stolen. Or just steal
Starting point is 00:21:21 some charging cables because you always need a charging cable. I've got a couple of cables. Yeah. Go chuck them in that bag of cables you've got. So with the great resignation, Or just steal some charging cables Because you always need a Charging cable Yeah Chuck them in that bag of cables you've got So with the great resignation And worries that
Starting point is 00:21:31 When people Staff leave They're stealing stuff We want to ask this morning 0800 dials at M 9696 Do you know someone That acquired something
Starting point is 00:21:41 On the way out the door That person could be you Or it could be you But you could tell the story like it was somebody else. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we're certainly not encouraging this. You shouldn't steal it. Absolutely not. Or no, you'll be pinged. Yeah, 100%. You're 100% breaking the law.
Starting point is 00:21:54 You're absolutely taking the risk into your own hands if you do it. But maybe, I don't know, you just felt you were underpaid all these years and you deserve that office chair. You're not leaving with an office chair. I reckon you could get away with an office chair. And then you're in the car park downstairs
Starting point is 00:22:08 trying to bungle this office chair into your car. All the while on security camera. You're never getting away with it, are you? I reckon I could give it a good honest whack. Gone are the days where you're miserable and a job forever because a great resignation is happening. And apparently the pandemic's caused this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Well, it's kind of brought it out in people. They were already unhappy. Yeah. And now they're like, well, life is short, as it turns out. Yeah. And apparently people had the chance during the pandemic to save a bit. Whereas I would have thought most of us are blowing it all online. Yeah, online shopping.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Online shopping. But yeah, so people are just like, screw the job us are blowing it all online. Yeah, online shopping. Online shopping. But yeah, so people are just like, screw the job, I'll find something eventually. Yeah. Even if I just have a little bit of time out. But it has brought another warning. Experts are saying on the way out, disgruntled employees who are finally like, I actually don't need to tow the company line anymore, could steal
Starting point is 00:23:01 or cause a lot of damage. IT professionals, apparently, the biggest worry. Yeah, right. Okay. Anonymous joins us. Good morning, Anonymous. Good morning. What did you steal from a job?
Starting point is 00:23:15 May or may not have stolen a lawnmower and a weed eater on my way out on the last day. Woo! Wow. Wow. Okay. I mean, obviously, you were working on some were you selling garden things or were you gardening was it a uh i was working for uh local government oh okay oh so you had people and then you just said local government so now everybody's like well it's mine it's my rates rates. And they won't miss this, Anonymous?
Starting point is 00:23:48 Probably not. Was this recent? Are you still waiting to see if they miss it? I've always wondered, so, like, you dudes were out, like, doing the public gardens and, like, lawns and stuff that no one cares about. Does stuff ever get stolen off the trucks? Yeah, quite often we'd have our fuel stolen.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Yeah, because they're on those little red fuel cans. I've walked past one before and the guy was like 200 metres away. I was like, if the stuff's been locked in the truck, you could totally have been like, I love that. All right, lots of text messages and calls coming through. Thank you, Anonymous. Yeah, well, I worked for a furniture company many years ago and when a co-worker you, Anonymous. Yeah. Well, I worked for a furniture company
Starting point is 00:24:26 many years ago and when a co-worker left, he stole eight litres of paint and a leaf blower. Eight litres of paint? Yeah. I'm part of the great resignation, reads another text.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I just left my job. I took all the stationery on my desk, pens, paper, books, charging cables, paper, anything. Wow. Anything that was on my desk.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Yeah, right. Yeah, because I've watched them anything. Wow. Anything that was on my desk. Yeah, right. Yeah, because I've watched them bin somebody else's desk before or after they left. What? That is bin at all. What a waste. Well, maybe in COVID times you can't give post-it notes to a new colleague because you might have touched them. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:24:58 But you wouldn't have licked them. They've got their own sticky residue. We're talking about the great resignation where people are unhappy in their jobs, and rather than sit in them forever and then retire one day and realise life has passed them by in what feels like the blink of an eye. Yeah. It sounds like the start of a movie, doesn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:15 People are just quitting jobs. And, I don't know, chasing happiness or something. Or just a nicer job. Just finding a better job. Doing something different. Doing something that. Doing something that they actually like. But they're warning
Starting point is 00:25:26 that is also going to lead to the great theft-ignation. Yes. Somebody said, someone messaged in saying they're resigning this week. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Like they are in the process of resignation. Right. And now they feel like they're guilty even though they haven't taken anything just because we're talking about it.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And they've thought about it. Well, we're certainly not encouraging it at all. No. But we want to know if this is a thing that people do and it is. Totally is. Producer Jared has said that when he left his job at Pack and Save, he knows
Starting point is 00:25:56 somebody that took all of the plastic bags at their checkout at that time. When they had plastic bags. What with? Dog poo? I don't know. It felt like when they got taken away, everybody was so upset about plastic bags, but now I can't really remember what they did.
Starting point is 00:26:12 They lined the bin. You had a whole drawer full of them. Yeah. Yeah. They took up a lot of space. You put your wet togs in them. That's right. Yeah, they were great for the wet togs.
Starting point is 00:26:20 They were great for a wet tog. They were great for a wet tog. And your sunscreen in case it squirted out of the bottle. Yes, if you were going overseas, you'd pop it in there, wouldn't it? So contain the explosive sunscreen residue. Someone said, I got fired last year and on the way out, I ended up taking his wife as we had been seeing each other behind the scenes. Take that.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Anonymous is called Anonymous. What did you steal from work? I took a few mugs and drinking glasses from the kitchen. Oh, real. Because I think about our kitchen and our mugs get all the marks on the bottom from all the teaspoon stirring and chips, and they're not nice mugs to steal. Oh, no, I actually think these were the ones that people had brought for themselves
Starting point is 00:27:05 and then, you know, put them in the dishwasher and then never collect them again. Yeah, right, okay. Oh, so is that stealing? I mean, they left them, you know? Yeah, but are all of your mugs mismatching? Hey, that's what I like, actually. Do you?
Starting point is 00:27:21 I don't like a matching set of mugs. Yeah, I wouldn't have called you a monster for stealing from work, but you're a monster for having mismatched mugs. I couldn't deal with that. Very haggle-teep, haggle-teep. Anonymous, thanks for your call. Some text messages. An old acquaintance was raided by the police after he left his job.
Starting point is 00:27:39 He'd stolen a disturbing amount of ammunition and other military equipment, including a claymore mine. A what? A claymore mine. One of those ones you stick to a building and it's like, clear!
Starting point is 00:27:48 Oh, I thought those were only in movies. I didn't know that was a real thing. Oh, it's totally a real thing. Okay, that's not the kind of stuff you want to be stealing from a job. Ammunition?
Starting point is 00:27:57 No. Jeez. When I left my last job, I waited to get some branded merch from one of our partnering brands. Masks, backpack, duffel bag, and
Starting point is 00:28:05 then I resigned. Oh, okay, right. That's not really stealing. You got it as an employee and then you resigned. Yeah, that's fine. I resigned from my truck driving job last week. Do you think they'll notice if I take a Hino? No. Not a Hino. They'll notice if you took a Scud.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Yeah, you took one of the big bloody Macs, they'd notice, mate. But no one's going to notice or care about a Hino going missing, are they? Is that good truck banter? I love a little bit of pre-7am truck banter. Yeah, the truckies. The truck is on the road.
Starting point is 00:28:35 They're out there. They're doing an essential service. A Hino's still pretty big, isn't it? Oi. Oh, yeah. It can be, but not as big as this. That's a flat nose one, eh? I like the ones with the pointy nose.
Starting point is 00:28:46 The Kenworth. Yeah, your Mac tree. Your big, big long nose Macs, mate. Bloody little bulldog out there on the front. I don't know. They all look the same to me. Beautiful. What are you running now?
Starting point is 00:28:55 You're still running that bloody curtain side or have you got a bloody container deck? Flat deck. Yeah. See you down the ports then. ZDM's Flesh Warner Megan. Keeping up to date with the news just became a little easier. As at Herald's new podcast, The Front Page is your short, sharp daily news podcast.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Join me, Damien Venuto, every weekday morning as I chat with journalists and newsmakers going behind the headlines to break down what you need to know on the biggest news stories of the day. Listen to the front page at nzherald.co.nz slash podcasts and follow us on iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts. Play ZM. 10 Secret Sound Blitz. It's a Secret Sound blitz. Blitz, blitz, blitz. It's a secret sound blitz. So today, every hour until 5 o'clock,
Starting point is 00:29:50 we're giving you the chance to guess a secret sound. And it's all thanks to Neon. Watch TV series and movies handpicked for Kiwis by Kiwis on Neon. This is a sound that could win you $50,000. Choo-choo. Every time, that's what I think. Hope joins us this morning. Good morning, Hope.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Yes. I won. I got through. You haven't won. You just said you won. You just said you won. You have not won. I know, I know, but I got through and it's so exciting.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Well, that's the hardest bit, Hope. Well, is it the hardest? You say this every time. You've done the hard part, but heaps of people got through, but nobody's won. So technically, getting through is the easier of the two parts. Yeah, right. It's hard. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:30:38 But it's hard to get through. It is hard to get through. It's hard to get through, but it's harder to get it right. Yeah. I know, I know, but I still feel like I've won because I got through. All right, well, Hope, you are the first guest today for our Blitz. Soundkeeper Al's is on the line. For $50,000, what do you think this sound is?
Starting point is 00:30:58 I said something. Can I change my guess what I previously said before? Okay, Hope, let's hear it. Is it a clock hand ticking? A clock hand ticking. I don't believe that's been guessed before. A clock hand ticking. So you had two guesses you were deciding between.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Wait, so you changed your guess, Hope, and are you worried that you may have changed from something that was right to something that's wrong? Yeah, probably. What if she's changed from something that was wrong to something that's right? Are you all over the show normally, Hope? Are you indecisive? Well, I was just thinking about the clues and I was like, oh, that fits better, so maybe go with that one. Well, Soundkeeper Owls.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Hello, Hope. Hi. You've decided to lock in a clock ticking. Yeah. And, Hope, that is not the secret sound Oh Jesus You've got to do it out Hope
Starting point is 00:32:11 You are always going to be wondering If your initial guess was the one you should have gone with now I know Oh my god Unless he gets through again Yeah wow But that is the hardest bit, Megan. Well, it's a blitz.
Starting point is 00:32:29 So hope another chance at eight every hour until five o'clock today. All thanks to Neon. $50,000 cash is up for grabs. Soon on the show, you've got a new toy. I do. I've got a new toy. The Toy Master is back.
Starting point is 00:32:49 You know me and my gadgets and my toys. It's an adult toy, yeah. And this one's, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, it's a toy for adults. It's for everybody. Okay. It's for everybody. I didn't say it's an adult fun toy.
Starting point is 00:32:58 It's a family toy. Right, okay. Yeah. So I don't want people tuning out thinking that I've bought some sort of sexual device. You know, it's not that. It's not that. Am I a bad person? Vanilla Smithy.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Oh, gosh, no. ZDM's Fletch, Ron and Megan. Well, I've been waiting for this toy. I ordered this, I don't know, when I first did the paperwork and paid the deposit. And then a couple of weeks ago, I got an email saying, pay the final instalment and it's on its way. Okay. God, the money couldn't have left my bank account quick enough.
Starting point is 00:33:34 It leapt out. It leapt out. And it went straight into the hands of Elon Musk. See? You love him too. I do now. I got Starlink, baby. I got the Starlink satellite because I went on,
Starting point is 00:33:47 I checked, I was on ADSL. Oh, wow. Not even VDSL. I was on rural ADSL copper wire 1990s bullshit. Yeah, that's 90s, early 2000s internet. Slow. I don't even know how you were able to Fortnite and even watch anything streaming.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Just. Like, mind-blowing. Because did I send you this story when I saw it? Because you'd been thinking about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was thinking about it, and then there was an article. There were actually, like, multiple articles in New Zealand news outlets. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Reviewing it and saying it's available in New Zealand. And there's, like, these ground stations for them in certain places. Yeah, there's three ground stations in New Zealand. And Starlink works using the network of satellites that are in the sky. The string of lights that you'll see go through the sky and people who don't pay attention to the news but like smoking weed see them and put them up on the local Facebook page. It's been like, aliens are coming, man.
Starting point is 00:34:40 And you're like, Starlink, how have you not heard about this? Yeah, yeah. And so someone close to me was in one of those reviews, somebody geographically just on the road, and I messaged them. I was like, is it all it's cracked up to be? And they were like, I can't say how good it is. I was like, I'm on board. So that's when paid the deposit, paid the final thing,
Starting point is 00:34:59 and have been waiting. We mentioned it in the podcast a few days ago, and it was at that stage. Somebody else who lives just around the corner from me messaged saying, well mentioned it in the podcast a few days ago. And it was at that stage. Somebody else who lives just around the corner from me messaged saying, well, listen to the podcast. And we've also ordered. And I think we're going to get ours roughly the same time. So now we're best friends.
Starting point is 00:35:14 And we've been like, every time the courier goes past, I send a photo of the courier being like, they're out. They're coming. And they're like, oh, not today. Not today. I'm like, better luck tomorrow. Have they been struggling like you with 90s internet? They can't even get cable internet where they are.
Starting point is 00:35:31 They were on 4G and they said it was like patchy as and like real bad. And they were running a business from home as well. I don't even think I could move into a house if it was like, there's no internet here. Yeah, you've got no idea. Oh, mate. You've been a long time since's no internet here. Yeah, you've got no idea. Oh, mate. I'm like, no. A long time since you've been without.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Yeah. So we've been keeping in touch every day when we see the couriers and then yesterday my landie needed a warrant. Yeah. And so Sade drove me down there and as we're going down the road, the courier was coming and I did this. I looked like a Labrador. I went out the window.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I went out the window. I was like. Can you not wave to them and be like, is that for me? That's what I do. No, they don't know our car because we're driving. We're going like 80 Ks each in different directions. So I'm up out the window and I can see like quite big boxes. I'm like, that could be anything.
Starting point is 00:36:18 But the track and trace said it was out for delivery. So I took a photo, sent it to my mate up the road. I'm like, I've got a good feeling about today. And then when we get home, nothing. I was like, damn it. Then I'm sitting,
Starting point is 00:36:30 having a drink, consoling myself of another day of ADSL. And I see that our gate's open and our courier's got a gate. Can I open our gate? I'm like, what's a gate? And then I just see this red van,
Starting point is 00:36:42 and I'm like, ah! And I run out like a kid at Christmas, and she's like, God, have I delivered some of these today? And I was like, is it? And she's like, mm-hmm. And this big black box comes out. I'm fizzing.
Starting point is 00:36:58 I run inside. Shadow got a photo of me running, and I'm like, ah! And so I was really excited about it, but I thought, I don't know how long this is going to take to set up. It came plugged in. So you meant to put it on the roof, right? The satellite did. The satellite. It just needs clear access to the sky.
Starting point is 00:37:14 You download an app and you like zoom it around and it will tell you if there's any obstacles that are likely to interfere. But from our deck, it's okay. The roof's going to be better, but that's a job for another day. So I'm very excited. I'm salivating. Yeah. It's like I'm about to eat.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah. And I put it out there and I do the check. It's like, yeah, here's fine. And then it was all plugged in. It just had to be plugged in at the wall. Cable ran out to the satellite. And then the satellite, the minute you plug it in and turn it on, it goes zzzz and points straight up.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Like you're James Bond at this point and you're running some stuff back to MI5. Yeah. And points straight up and then it goes, not this noisy, by the way, just like a slight, Oh yeah, that's nice, yeah. That's nicer than the, Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I don't want people thinking it's like, it's like, and it scans the whole sky. And then it finds the best satellite. And then it follows it across the sky. And then it finds the next one. Does it do that all the time? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:16 There's going to be no... Can you imagine, and they've talked about this, in the future when we go travelling, remember travel, you're only going to need like your phone, right? For the satellite internet. Like these will work. You're not going to need like cell phone towers.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Wow. In the future, right? It's all going to be internet from the sky. So then I'm like sending photos of my mate up the road. And has she got them? She's angry. She's like, it's not coming today. It's been like 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I'm like, I'm so sorry for your loss. Suck it. And then I start sending screencaps of how fast my internet is. So prior to this, when I was on ADSL, three megabytes a second was like humming. Horn. I know horn. Horn, I know horn. Sweetie, you don't need to tell me. Now, three megabytes a second was like humming. Hon. I know hon. Hon, I know hon.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Sweetie, you don't need to tell me. Mine's not great, but it's better than that. Do you know what I'm at now? What? Yesterday, I got 195 megabytes a second. That's like ultra fast broadband levels. I know. And that's coming from the sky.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Sweetie. Sweetie. And that's not even on the roof. Once you get on the roof, it'll be better. It could be even better. Yeah. You asked me yesterday what I found attractive about Elon Musk. Do you want to take that back?
Starting point is 00:39:31 Big, thick internet. So then I'm just like reveling in this fast internet. Made Up The Road sends me a photo. She's got hers. Oh, exciting. They're setting it up. Yep. They're setting it up.
Starting point is 00:39:42 She's like, this is so easy to set up. I'm like, oh, 20 minutes ago, I would have totally told you the same thing. Yeah. And then she sends me her test. She's getting 240 megabytes a second. Oh, suck it. Up the hill. She's closer to the satellite.
Starting point is 00:39:57 She's up the hill. Yeah, right. That's it, Sade. We're going to move to the top of the hill. Wow. So if you live in the middle of nowhere and you don't have good internet then this is amazing.
Starting point is 00:40:07 And this is wildly and totally completely I paid full price for it. Non-spawn. Absolute non-spawn. How much is it monthly? I know the initial cost of the satellite's a bit.
Starting point is 00:40:16 So initial cost is like 800 bucks for the satellite and then it's $150 a month unlimited. We were paying $99 a month unlimited for 80 years sale. So it's $50 more. So I paid $99-ish or $104 for like ultra fast broadband unlimited.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Yeah. So that's pretty good. Yeah. Considering you live in the middle of nowhere. And every now and then I just get to look outside and see the satellite and I'm like, hmm. Finding a new one. And you think you're a James Bond spy.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Hey, buddy. Yeah. Yeah. Don't pat the satellite. Oh, yeah. I wasn't patting it. I was waving. That hand just used me waving at the satellite. Does it have a little feature where it's like,
Starting point is 00:40:50 look up in the sky now and you'll see it fly over? Oh, not that I'm aware of. Oh, it should do. But it could do. Wow. Well, that's living in the future, isn't it? Oh, it's pretty great, guys. It's pretty great.
Starting point is 00:41:00 And then we turned on neon and watched some high-definition programming. Is that right? Zero buffering. Yeah, right. Was that the first time you've ever watched anything without buffering? I have a very nice television that's capable of a lot of Ks, and I've never watched anything with many Ks because I'm capable of about, what's below 720?
Starting point is 00:41:24 480? Yeah, 480. I'm about a 480 what's below 720? 480? Yeah, 480. I'm about a 480p guy. Yeah, okay. And now I've got some Ks happening, baby. Right. It's good stuff in the Smith household now. Oh, it's mega bits a second.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Someone's messaged in. Okay, nerds. I've got tons of them. Play ZM's Fleshphone and Megan. I didn't know this, but there's a whole website. There's CertNZ. Yeah. And they've got a whole page dedicated to COVID-19 scams to be avoided.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Oh, okay. Really? So earlier, I didn't know this, earlier in the vaccination program, people would call up and say, hey, it's so-and-so from the vaccination centre. You just need to pay for your place in the queue tomorrow. And they were trying to get details off people, like credit cards and bank accounts and stuff. When, like, people were desperate to get the vaccine free, like, having millions of them. And there was email scams.
Starting point is 00:42:16 There was telephone scams. There was a whole lot of things. Right. Is this a website that warns about scams? Cert.gov.nz. I don't know. I just Googled, yeah, responding to cyber about scams? Cert.gov.nz. I don't know. I just Googled, yeah, responding to cybersecurity threats in New Zealand. Huh, okay.
Starting point is 00:42:30 That's what they help out with. And that was just one of the earliest scams. So one of the ones in the news now is that a social worker in Katikati in the Bay of Plenty said that one of their clients and her daughter was approached off for $200 to pretend to be someone else to get the jab. So somebody wanted it on their personal real me, you know, the way they're going to do vax certificates.
Starting point is 00:42:58 They wanted these two people to go and get the jab and say, I am Carol. Sure, I'm Carol. And here's my innate child number and my date of birth. Because they want everybody to get the vaccine, they're not asking for ID. Yeah. So, and they were offered $200 to do it. So, yeah, that's not good.
Starting point is 00:43:18 But then what if you end up in hospital and you're like struggling to breathe and they look in your medical file and they're like, well, she's had the vaccine. Yeah, but absolutely zero antibodies by this quick blood test we've just run. Yeah. But then maybe they treat you differently because they think you're vaccinated. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Right. But that's illegal, right? I thought you were saying they found out you'd committed a scam and they put you in the dumpster out back. They do, they should. Sorry, we don't have room for people who did this.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Yeah. Yeah, so they're just saying it's kind of worrying that more vulnerable people will be targeted. Yeah, right. By people with money who don't want to get it, but that want to fly out the system. Tell you what, you're going to a lot of effort. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:01 The easy option would be just to get vaccinated. Save yourself $200 and get it and then protect yourself. Yeah. The easy option would be just to get vaccinated. Save yourself $200 and get it and then protect yourself. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Like the teacher
Starting point is 00:44:09 on the news last night saying they'd made her unemployable and I thought, well, you've kind of made yourself unemployable. What will I do for a job? How will I get another job? I said, well,
Starting point is 00:44:17 you don't actually even need to leave the one you've got. It's very simple. Yeah. It's a very simple situation. But yeah, as we move to Really get that last few percentage over the line So that some of us can enjoy
Starting point is 00:44:30 The summer that we want Or just like getting out and doing Something Would be really great Let us know What could convince you 7.26, next on the show AI is learning,
Starting point is 00:44:45 they're teaching it how to find top cheating indicators. So you might be able to fool your partner, but can you fool a computer? All right.
Starting point is 00:44:55 ZDM's Fletchborn and Megan. This is a big study and it has been done with people who are cohabiting, people who are in relationships, people who are married,
Starting point is 00:45:03 people who are straight, who are identified as bisexual, gay, lesbian, all sorts of couples. Okay. A massive study. She's a bloody Pokemon. They call them all. And it's on relationship satisfaction and cheating.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Okay. So they were trying to find an algorithm of people who are more likely to cheat. So are you saying in the future, nobody's going to be able to cheat because computers will just be like, Alexa, basically will tell your partner. Alexa, is my partner cheating on me? It would be more like, Alexa, what percentage is it likely my partner is going to cheat on me today? And it gradually will change. It'll even be like, good morning, Megan.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Tuesday is the day where your partner is most likely going to do the nasty. It's also 18 degrees and partially cloudy. God, it looks as great. Yeah. So yeah, they measured heaps of different variables, age, race, education, obviously sexual orientation to assess their behavior, satisfaction in their relationship. So the thing is, they've done all of this with algorithms and AI and stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:18 It's kind of just telling you things you already know. So across all of these samples, both men and women, higher relationship satisfaction predicted a lower likelihood of in-person cheating, a higher desire for solo sexual activity, a higher desire for sexual activity with one's partner, and being in a longer relationship predicted a higher likelihood of in-person cheating. Right. So I guess if you have a strong libido... What about that other one you told me off-air? How can I say that?
Starting point is 00:46:55 You cannot say that. Yes, you can. It's a very niche little tidbit out of this study, which is interesting. It was easily the most interesting point. Easily. Hard to describe on the radio. So, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Given. When I say in-person cheating, because I also studied the likelihood of online cheating. Okay. And this is where this little tidbit comes in. I'll see if I can figure out how to do it. We're about to see a broadcast at work, ladies and gentlemen. So, when it came to online cheating, greater sexual desire and being in a longer relationship predicted a higher likelihood of cheating, which is the same as in person. They also found that infidelity is more probable if you have engaged in...
Starting point is 00:47:44 I actually don't know the word to use. You could go biblical on it. Or you could just say you popped out the back door of the house. Well, no, technically it was you forgot your keys, so you had to pop back in the back door. If you'd popped back in the... Yeah, you'd locked yourself out the front. So you had to break in the back door.
Starting point is 00:48:04 You had to nip around the back door. If that's happened in a relationship, more likely to cheat. More likely? How fascinating is that? More likely to cheat. Wow. I'm thinking behind that. Yeah, that's a weird one, eh?
Starting point is 00:48:19 They reckon it has something to do with conservative attitudes towards sexuality. Oh, right. Okay. Conservatives are just all about that front door. they reckon it has something to do with conservative attitudes towards sexuality. Oh, right. Okay. So once the... Conservatives are just all about that front door. They're like, it faces the road. And then you're saying once the... It's got a doorbell.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Once they've said there is a back door that you could sneak into. They're like, who else has got a back door? And then they're fascinated by back doors perhaps. The floodgates, the back doors are open. Yeah. And it's all go. Wow. And then they're pretty much a courier in an apartment block, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:48 like knock, knock, knock. Right, okay. Wow. But technically apartments don't have back doors. A huge study done. Yeah. And it's AI, so who are we to argue? I wouldn't argue with AI.
Starting point is 00:49:00 God knows. You tell you something about yourself that you kind of know but you weren't confirmed on, and then it tells you, and you're like, well, I can't deny it now. Play ZM's Flesh, Fawn and Megan. Am I a bad person? I like that pause. Yeah, it's 14 minutes.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Sink in. $1,500. Sink it in. All right. They say you shouldn't argue with a pregnant woman, but it's happening. The pregnant woman has messaged in for assistance. Hi, guys.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Jess, can I stop now? I'm on her side. Yeah. I need your help, please, as my friend and I can't agree on this. I'm pregnant, and the other day my friend took me to an ultrasound appointment. That was nice. My partner couldn't get out of work, so my friend very kindly offered to chauffeur me, which I was soaked about.
Starting point is 00:49:48 She's one of those people who is always late. She thinks it's a cute personality trait, but it drives me wild. Is this relating? Are you relating to this fawn? Everything apart from the driving the wild, it's very cute. That's cute.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Knowing this, I asked her to pick me up half an hour before to allow plenty of time. She showed up five minutes before the appointment was supposed to start. I live 15 minutes
Starting point is 00:50:16 from the hospital. She didn't have an excuse. Was frazzled, just as per usual. We raced there and got pinged for a speeding ticket on the way. She was going 16 k's over, so 120 bucks.
Starting point is 00:50:29 And those things don't happen quick either. Like, if you get pulled over for a speeding ticket, that takes a good 10 minutes. After we got the ticket, she said she'd prefer to be paid by bank transfer rather than cash. I laughed, then realised she was being dead serious. Am I a bad friend for arguing to pay this when she was helping me out? Wow. Okay, firstly, if your friend's not there, get an Uber.
Starting point is 00:50:58 I'm currently late, but when it counts, I have been not late. When I picked you up recently when you got... Yeah, but that was after the appointment. That doesn't count. Yeah, you just wait until you get there. Yeah, and the only reason I asked you to drop me off is because I knew we were going straight from work
Starting point is 00:51:15 and you couldn't be late. Yeah, that's true. And how do you know we've never fudged the time just to get you there? Recently, there was a thing at work. It was like, it's happening at five past five in the morning. And I was like, Jesus. And then the actual thing came through and it was 20 past.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I was like, they fudged it, so I'd be here on time. And it worked, didn't it? It worked a treat. Because you got here at 10 past, didn't you? Yeah. I don't know, because technically she was doing her a favour, but then she was also late. So they wouldn't have had to speed had she been on time.
Starting point is 00:51:47 The driver's in control of the car. Yeah. It's on them. She's late. You're going to be late to the appointment. No excuse for going 117. Yeah. Or 17 over the whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Yeah. Whether it was 67. What if it's a road trip? Different situation. Well, because you hear about fights like this when you're on the road and somebody gets a ticket and they want everyone to go in on it. It's like, no, you're driving. It's on the driver.
Starting point is 00:52:14 You were speeding. You made that decision. If you were pulled over and I wasn't wearing a seatbelt, that's on you. That's on me. A hundred percent. Yeah. But then isn't that the driver's responsibility too? No, not once they're over 12 or something.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Right. Okay. They get the ticket. 15 something. Right. Oh, man. I just hate having these conversations with friends. I'm going to say no, she's not a bad person.
Starting point is 00:52:39 No. She's not a bad person. But then do you think there'll be people that think she was, you know, her friend was doing a favour for her. Yeah. Yeah, but her friend was only speeding because she was late in the first place. It doesn't say whether they actually got to do the ultrasound because they were obviously late, right?
Starting point is 00:52:58 Because if you get there and then they're like, oh, your time's gone, I'd be like, I am absolutely not paying any of that ticket. No. In summary, a pregnant woman got her friend who is notoriously late. She offered to take her to an ultrasound appointment. She was late a little bit. And then she sped and got a speeding ticket. $16,000 is over $120. And then she wants her to pay half of it.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Is she a bad person for arguing to pay this when she technically was helping her out? Yeah, she wasn't driving. It's all the driver. That's the general feeling on the text machine. Okay. Someone said, firstly, never ask your unreliable late friend for anything important.
Starting point is 00:53:40 No. That's why I don't get asked for important things. I don't want to be burned with responsibility. Yeah, you're not an airport drop-off person, Vaughan. You wouldn't be my number one airport drop-off person. No. That's why I don't get asked for important things. I don't want to be burned with responsibility. Yeah, you're not an airport drop-off person, Vaughn. You wouldn't be my number one airport drop-off person. No. Who is your number one airport drop-off person? Anyone except you.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Oh, come on. If it's after work, we're leaving at the same time. When Vaughn picks me up sometimes for work, I'm like, we're so late, but it's not on me. How much fun is it rolling in when everyone's already here? And then everyone's like, morning, and you's not on me. How much fun is it rolling in when everyone's already here? And then everyone's like, morning, and you're like, yeah. Shit, another day.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Am I a bad person? So if you're just joining us, a quick summary. It's a friendship on the brink here. It's a real argument. This correspondence comes from a pregnant woman. She said that the other day her friend, who was notoriously late, offered to take her to an ultrasound appointment because her partner couldn't.
Starting point is 00:54:28 She turned up late. Well, she sped 16 Ks over, got a $120 ticket, and then said that she could pay half by bank transfer. Well, at least if she does end up paying half, she's still got all the demerit points. Take that. Ashla, what do you think? Is she a bad person for not wanting to pay this fine?
Starting point is 00:54:48 She, I think she's definitely not a bad person, 100%. Okay, but what would you do if your friend was like, come on, you owe me 60 bucks or? Nah, nah. I'd still say maybe I'll take you out for coffee, but it was still on you that you were late and didn't get us in
Starting point is 00:55:04 time for the ultrasound. Yeah. She was the one that was speeding. She's the driver. I agree. Yeah, I agree, but I don't want to have that conversation. Ashla, thanks for your call. Sarah, you think she should keep the friendship?
Starting point is 00:55:22 Yeah, well, I mean, she had all the information before she, you know, took the offer. She knew her friends always late. So what's worth more, the money or the friendship? If she doesn't mind paying 60 bucks, then just do it and keep the friendship. Otherwise, she should have gotten an earband. That's the thing. It's 60 bucks. And if the friend takes offence and there's suddenly a big argument, like, do you want to lose your friend for the sake of 60 bucks? I am pretty petty.
Starting point is 00:55:43 I can do that. I'm pretty stubborn. Yeah. I think, Vaughn, you'd write off friend for the sake of $60? I am pretty petty. I could do that. I'm pretty stubborn. Yeah. I think, Vaughn, you'd write off a whole friendship pay for $60. Yeah, because you're in a right. It's more the principle of it. Yeah. $1.
Starting point is 00:55:54 It's the principle, you know. Thanks. You call a couple of texts and I think a percentage vote at the end of the day. It goes without saying, the only fines you split are the fines you get on your restricted license when you've got passengers because they knew that was, you know, the only fines you split are the fines you get on your restricted license when you've got passengers. Because they knew that was the roll of the dice. But again, these things need to be established. Not a bad person, but I'd just say pay some of it just out of thanks for picking you up.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Because if your partner couldn't get there, this person was giving up their time. Happened to me, I was on my way to pick up my grandmother as everyone else had been drinking. I got a ticket. Went to pay. My mum gave me cash to cover it. That's nice. Thanks, Mum. You're running an Uber service there.
Starting point is 00:56:34 You're going to pick up Grandma because everybody else is OTP. Yeah. But I'd say generally people are saying you're not a bad person for not... 90%? Yeah, but most people are saying this is a lesson to be learned,
Starting point is 00:56:45 is you don't ask late friend. To take you anywhere. For appointments specific. Yeah, yeah. Unless you're with them. Avon. Beg your pardon? You heard.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Yeah. You heard. Yeah, all right. No, I totally agree. ZM's Fleshworn and Megan. Play ZM. ZM's Secret Sound Bl Megan. Play ZM. ZM's Secret Sound Blitz. Blitz, blitz, blitz.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Secret Sound Blitz today, all thanks to Neon. Watch TV series and movies handpicked for Kiwis by Kiwis on Neon every hour, giving you the chance to have a guess until 5 o'clock with Brian Clint. So, will it go today? Louisa, good morning. Oh, my God, hello. Oh, my God, hello. Louisa, $50,000 cash is yours if you can tell us what this sound is.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Ooh, okay. I think it's an automatic card shuffler. An automatic card shuffler. An automatic card shuffler? Do you have one of these? No, I don't. But it's at the casino and they load the cards into it. Okay, did you see one in the video, Louisa? I didn't, but the idea behind it is in the video.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Okay, what, you saw cards? Yes, I love holding cards okay okay i love an automatic you had one of these once so i can't shuffle very well this is really great i feel like we've also had this guess every secret sound because it is one of those things that kind of clicks and whirs. There's a video I've heard and it sounds exactly like it. It's insane. It's been driving me crazy. You've done your research, eh?
Starting point is 00:58:34 Oh, yeah. I've got a notebook. You've got a notebook? What's in your notebook? Just all your guesses? Yeah, so much. So much. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Like a secret sound diary. Oh, for sure. So do you have lots of potential guesses? Yeah, so much. So much. Oh, wow. Like a secret sound diary. Oh, for sure. So do you have lots of potential guesses and are you going with this, your gut essentially? No, there's not lots. There's lots of notes as to like why it makes sense between but behind each of the clues. Oh, okay. Okay. And quickly,
Starting point is 00:59:01 what would you do with the $50,000? Oh, I'd help my brother get home you do with the $50,000? I'd help my brother get home. He's wanting to come through my queue and it's so expensive at the moment. Whereabouts is he stuck? He's in Germany. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:22 And for sure, save for a house because, you know, stressful. That's insane. Can he bring back anything from Germany? Like if you win and he gets back in, can he bring us some stuff? Lots of beer. No.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Lots of beer, yeah. Some of those decorations from that German Christmas market are TDF. TDF. Well, Luisa. Luisa. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Luisa. Luisa. It's okay. As long as it's not Louise. Luisa. Oh my goodness. It's eight o'clock. Louisa. Sorry. Louisa. Louisa. It's okay as long as it's not Louise. Louisa. Oh, my goodness. It's 8 o'clock. Wake up.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Right. We are locking in automatic card shuffler. Let's do it. Look, that is not the secret sound. Damn. Louisa! Oh, good. You would not believe how many clues match.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Like, it's crazy. Okay, so have you got anything else in your book that you can try again with in your notebook? Not now, but let's keep trying. Okay, I like the attitude. Well, lots of chances today to get through. It's a secret sound blitz. Please warn a Megan. Refund your date.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Refund your date. You've had a bad one. Cost you some money. We could refund it if we feed your specific stories, details into the date refund of $3,000. And today, applying for that refund, Georgia, good morning. Good morning, team. How are we doing? Good. All right. So what happened on this date? So this is last year when there was sort of murmurs about a first lockdown and everyone was a bit uneasy. And this guy that I was talking to really wanted to meet up before we might end
Starting point is 01:01:03 up in lockdown forever. Okay. So I thought, oh, that's cute. Yeah, absolutely. And he said, look, I really want to see you, but I do have footy training and, you know, if we go into lockdown, I really want to get, you know, I really want to see the boys for the last sort of time. And I was like, okay, that's fine. Like, totally admire that.
Starting point is 01:01:20 But also thanks, you know, for thinking of me and I'm super keen on going, you know, on this date with you. So we were going to this quite swanky bar in the Auckland Fire. I get there early and I just see this guy in the distance. And he literally got a puddle around him. He is dripping in sweat. You know, one of those like face palm moments, like, what have I just done? Yeah, right. Was he still in his rugby jersey and his boots or
Starting point is 01:01:52 his polo? He was full out, yeah, and he was got muddy, like rugby boots. He was all full on. I thought, you know, maybe he'd bring a towel with him or something so he'd try and make an effort after the footy. That's what I thought was going to happen. Yeah, right. And so we ordered a drink. I thought, you know what? It's nice that he made an effort. You know, he made an effort for me. So we ordered two cocktails, but it got to the point that when we were sitting there, sweat from his, like, forehead was, like,
Starting point is 01:02:26 and, like, his hair was, like, dripping onto the table. And I'm pretty sure one dripped into his drink. Why didn't he just go home and have a quick shower? I don't know. Like, at least bring a towel with you. And he just had, like, this little gym bag. And I thought, surely there's a change of clothes in here. Like, surely I'm getting prank or something.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Anyway, he was nice and we just never talked about the fact that he was so dripping in sweat. But not only that, you know when you have like a leg day or something and your legs kind of shake afterwards? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:01 The table was kind of shaking. He, of course, forgot his wallet because he only bought his phone and his gym bag. So anyway, I was like, no, that's fine. I will pay for it. No worries. I paid for two cocktails and some chips, which, as I said, I'm pretty sure there was sweat all over them. So I barely touched them. And then he had the cheek to ask me for a ride home.
Starting point is 01:03:23 I don't know why, but I did give him a ride and my car stunk for like two weeks later. And I just never spoke to him again. Like, we just went. But you said the chat was good, though. The chat was good. I think he realised by the end of the night that I was really uncomfortable with the amount of sweatiness.
Starting point is 01:03:44 How much money are we putting into the date refunder? I'm asking for $75, which is two cocktails, a little bit of fuel, and some chips. Jesus, the Viaduct, eh? You forget how expensive.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Your date refund request has been... Approved. Yay! There we go. Congratulations, Georgia. Well! There we go. Congratulations, Georgia. Well done. $75. Thank you so much, team.
Starting point is 01:04:12 ZDM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Yesterday we had Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern on the phone and just kind of looking forward now, we were wondering what summer's going to look like and if reconnecting with families family members who are currently in Auckland, what that's going to look like. If it's going to be a possibility and specifically talked
Starting point is 01:04:34 about like those land borders like driving north or driving south what it's going to look like and what we're going to have to do. So this is what she said. But as I say 30,000 people trying to move around by car is a different question. So what, like double vaxxed in a negative test or double vaxxed? So, yep, we're looking at how, if you were adding on a testing regime,
Starting point is 01:04:56 how you would manage, you know, that number and that scale of people being tested. But also, yes, using vaccine certificates as part of that. So while we're still working on it, if anyone wants to make sure that they're able to leave over the summer, it's another reason to get vaccinated. Now, I just thought everybody knew that, right? Yeah. I didn't think that that was breaking news. When we talked about that yesterday, I was like, oh.
Starting point is 01:05:22 I actually wanted more details. Like, what do I already double vaxed and more than willing to get a negative COVID test before Christmas? Which I'm probably going to get anyway because I'll be catching up with my nan. And she's like 88 years old. Yeah. So, you know, I want to know that we're negative before we go anywhere near her. She's double vaxed and everything, but you've got to be safe. But, yeah, I wanted more details. I wanted to know, like, you leave your home and you drive here
Starting point is 01:05:50 and you hand it over, but then just that it's a work in progress that, you know, you'll need your vaccine certificate and you'll need a negative test. It was like news to people. Yeah, the fact that she said that, yeah, Aucklanders would be able to leave if they're vaccinated. And it just kind of took off yesterday. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:09 They spelt Megan's name wrong in the paper. Twice. The same company that employs her owns. Thanks, Harold. But they spelt my name right for a change, which was lovely. All the news stories are like, she spoke to ZM, like with some kind of news talk station or something. That was weird, wasn't it? Well, she stopped talking to the other station with the Z at the start.
Starting point is 01:06:27 So somebody has to do the bloody heavy lifting around here. But then we even got quoted on the television news. Today in a radio interview, the Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern, said the government is considering how or even if Aucklanders will be able to leave the city over the Christmas period. We're the radio. They didn't want to say our name though, did they? No, they didn't.
Starting point is 01:06:47 On our radio station. I will always refer to TV One now as that TV station. The TV station. Take that. So I was talking to my parents last night, who I will be hopefully, fingers crossed, seeing for Christmas. And mum said, oh, they said on the news tonight that you'll need to be double vaccinated and have a negative test. To leave, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Yeah. I said, really? And she said, yeah, that I had a chat. Apparently, that was on a radio station this morning. I was like, mum, there was my radio station, ma'am. She said, I didn't listen to your show tonight. She said, ma'am. Ma'am. Ma'am. And then my, I don't know what my show today. He said, ma'am. Ma'am.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Ma'am. And then my, I don't know what I. We broke that news, ma'am. Yeah. Ma'am, I am the middle child. I will not be ignored, ma'am. God knows what my brother and sister were doing yesterday, but I bet they were trying to get her attention.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Today's my day. Well, you're not feeling the love yesterday. No. Okay. But then Starlink arrived, so I was like, suck it, mum, I've got to go. I've got a new toy. I've got to go and play with some fast internet. So, yeah, I mean, it's good to know that that.
Starting point is 01:07:52 And then Chris Hipkins was asked about it later in the day, and he said there might be, like, you say, I want to leave Auckland on the 24th, and they're like, oh, yep, leave at 11. There'll be, like, windows. Time windows. Time windows that you can leave, because otherwise traffic will be backed up if everyone has to show, like, leave at 11. There'll be like windows. Time windows. Time windows that you can leave because otherwise traffic will be backed up
Starting point is 01:08:07 if everyone has to show like a vaccine passport. But I... People were like, you can't do that. But I prefer to that. To be like, Vaughan, leave at 11. I'll leave at like quarter past, but you know, close enough. Are they giving you like that 15 minute window to stop at the servo to get a, like a treat,
Starting point is 01:08:22 some lollies and a coffee? And an extra 15 minute window because he's always late. So you need to be given like a half an hour different time. Yeah, and then I'll get in the car and Sade will have run it to empty because that's what she does famously and like waits just for the magical fill up fairy to fill her car up.
Starting point is 01:08:36 And so I'll be like, well, we've got to stop now. And she's like, well, we're late because of you. And I'll say, well, technically we could have made the time up if we didn't have to stop now. And then you've missed your window to escape. And then we're arguing and it's just Christmas, man. But I'd rather be told to leave, like, leave in the window of 11, 11.30 rather than leave at 9 and everyone leaves at 9
Starting point is 01:08:55 and you sit in traffic for eight hours. Yeah. God, I hate sitting in traffic. Doesn't mind heading. But it's Auckland, so people are probably used to it. But anyway. Play ZM's Flesh, Vaughan and Megan. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Today's fact of the day, Fletch, you're going to love this. Okay. Because it's about tunnel boring. And we're big fans of civil engineering. You remember Bourne and I went on... Was it Alice the Tunnel Boring? Yeah, well, we've got Dame... Alice, Dame Fina Cooper.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Dame Fina Cooper's currently doing the city rail loop. The big one that did the Waterview Tunnel was Alice. Yeah. This one's Dame Fina. Oh, God, I get so... And I'll follow them on Facebook and Instagram to see all the updates. They've broken through to the Cananga Happy Road station.
Starting point is 01:09:50 And now they're going to pick it up and take it back instead of going? No, they keep going. Oh, they're just going to keep going. They keep going. And then when they get to the end. They pick it up, take it back, and it comes back through. Oh, it's good stuff, Megan. Because it's too long to turn around.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Yeah. That's the truth, isn't it? Yeah. Okay. So this is about tunnel boring machines. This is a story of the greatest tunnel boring machine that never was. In 1972, a patent was filed in the US for an atomic energy-powered tunnel boring machine.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Let me read you this tunnel boring machine. Let me read you this tunnel boring machine. This is the abstract description at the patent office in the US. A machine and method for drilling boreholes and tunnelling by melting in which a housing is provided for supporting a heat source and a heated end portion
Starting point is 01:10:39 in which the necessary melting heat is delivered to the walls of the end portion at a rate sufficient to melt rock. I will put this in layman's terms in a minute. How'd you look at me? Fletch might need layman's. He looked engaged. You looked confused.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Oh, it's just because of the story. And during operation of which a molten material may be just blah, blah, blah. So they're making lava. Correct. Yeah, okay. It was a tunnel boring machine that instead of grinding with the big teeth, it had a point on it, like a cone-shaped point on it, that was powered by nuclear power because they needed that much power
Starting point is 01:11:16 to superheat the end and it would melt through any rock. It would then push it through. It had a cooling ring behind the heat that would cool the glass effectively. Yeah. And it would create its own support as it went. So there'd been no wasted material. Nah, because it pushed it out, compacted it, it got super hot, it melted, something cooled it and it turned into reformed rock. So basically, like you said, lava. They were creating lava of all varieties of rock. That's nuts. I mean, that's the coolest thing I've ever heard.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Burning myself on the tip of that thing. It's like when the iron's on and your chicken is hot enough to iron your clothes and you're like, no heat, and you touch it and you're like, ah! You give it two touches, you're like, oh, it's not hot, and then you go, I'll go for a long touch. That's too long. Tap, not hot. Tap, too long, hot.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Yeah. And burn it. So, yeah, they said the heat source can be electrical or nuclear, but for deep drilling it's preferably a nuclear reactor. So a nuclear reactor on board. Yeah, but then I can see the problem with having a nuclear reactor underground. I can't go on. Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Overheating? Oh, come on. Don't be scared. Someone try it. Elon Musk, tell him he can't do it. I bet he will. Yeah. Wow, that's exciting.
Starting point is 01:12:33 And what, did it move faster? Because that's my problem with the tunnel boring machines. They go so slow. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, is that something you want to rush, though? Yeah, because you've got to get a wonky hole. You don't want a wonky tunnel. Do you remember the original Ninja Turtles?
Starting point is 01:12:49 No. The original cartoon Ninja Turtles? So Krang lived underground in this big technodome and how Bebop, Rocksteady, Shredder and the foot soldiers got around with these little tunnelling machines. And when I was a kid, I was like, why aren't they a thing? Yeah, right. That would be a great way to get around.
Starting point is 01:13:11 But then my dad, I remember saying, Dad, why isn't this a thing? And he said, well, you imagine if rabbits just dug tunnels everywhere, the earth would fall down. Oh, yeah. He's smart, Ian. Yeah, okay, he's got a point there. But this one circumnavigates that issue because it drills the hole, but then it creates a strength.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Wait, so did the patent office say no? No, no, it's a filed patent. And they had like... I feel like we shouldn't mess around. They had like the grounds to build it and everything, but they just never did. They never did. Have you ever looked at a patent?
Starting point is 01:13:37 God, there's a lot of writing. It's a lot. Yeah. And then if you're going to file a patent, for example, This patent of the Nuclear powered drilling machine That melted the rock And turned it into
Starting point is 01:13:48 Its own support structure Around it Mwah You also had to Acknowledge other patents Used in your patent Right Like a nuclear reactor
Starting point is 01:13:57 They've listed in their patent That they had to Acknowledge that a nuclear patent A nuclear reactor Already existed Right And they have taken liberties from that. Fascinating stuff.
Starting point is 01:14:08 So today's fact of the day is in 1972, a patent was issued, although never followed through with a bill, although that sounds super cool if it did happen, for a nuclear-powered drilling machine that melted the rock and reformed it. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. CDM's Fletchvorn and Megan. Sleepwalking. They don't know what causes sleepwalking.
Starting point is 01:14:46 They still don't. This blew my mind. I thought they would have had this lockdown by now. It's 100% a thing though, eh? Yep, totally. It's even got a scientific name. Somambulism. Somambulism.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Somambulism. Okay, well, sleepwalking's catchy. And scientists have said one of the hardest parts about studying it is that it only affects a tiny percent of the adult population, less than 5%. It's way more prevalent when you're a kid. 5% is a lot, though, of the adult population. It's just a lot of sleepwalking.
Starting point is 01:15:15 It would add up. Is that the same as sleep talking? Because I used to talk heaps when I was a kid. Different. That's the other thing I've learned from reading this. It's different. It's different parts of the brain, different responses. So apparently sleepwalking is a fight or flight response.
Starting point is 01:15:31 But do you know what comes after the fight or flight response? What? The rest and digest response. I was about to say rest because if you're fighting or fighting, you'd be like, oh. You're tired, so you rest and you digest. I've never heard of rest and digest. I had to be like, what is the rest and digest response?
Starting point is 01:15:45 Sleeping. That's what comes after. Yeah, it is. Wow. It is. And often if they're trying to study sleepwalking, because people are thinking about it so much, if they're there for the study of sleepwalking,
Starting point is 01:15:57 we want adult sleepwalkers. I'm a sleepwalker. They don't. I've documented. They get there and they can't or they don't because they're thinking about it too much. Wouldn't it be better just to install cameras at someone's house? To study them.
Starting point is 01:16:09 If you're studying them and then find out that they went sleepwalking and then get the footage. Because that's in their natural environment too where they probably have a bit more of a normal sleep compared to a sleep lab. Yeah. But they looked into all different sorts of things like why some people go for a mosey, a walk, why some people start doing weird tasks. Yeah, there's a chick on TikTok that I watch all the time.
Starting point is 01:16:33 She just has cameras set up because she sleepwalks. And she'll go into the kitchen and do tasks, or sometimes she, like, sits down and eats weird things. At, like, two in the morning. Yeah. That's wild, eh? And they said that one of the more fascinating areas of sleepwalking is arousal. Arousal?
Starting point is 01:16:54 Yeah. There's been more. This is also, which I clipped through and read another link from, of a woman got pregnant. And apparently a TV show did a story on this as well. Like Jeremy Kyle. No, it might've been like a house. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:17:09 But it was based on the story of this woman got pregnant. She was like, I can't be pregnant. Oh, I haven't had sex. I haven't had sex. Yeah, wow. And they said, yes, you have. And she's like, I'm telling you, I haven't. And then she was worried she'd been assaulted.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Yeah. But then she was like, no. And then it turned out that like her neighbour came forward and was like she knocks on my door at some weird time in the morning and comes in and she's all over me so I thought we just had this weird friends with benefits thing going and yeah
Starting point is 01:17:34 Oh my god! It was sleepwalk sleep arousal Well I would love to take some calls this morning Is there anybody listening that sleepwalks? As a sleepwalker. Have you got a that sleepwalks? Is a sleepwalker. Have you got like a funny sleepwalk story? Like how far have you gone out of the house? Maybe you were impregnated by your neighbour.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Just thought you had some weird thing going on. But yeah, 0800 DALS at M. Give us a call. You can text as well. 9696. Have you sleep, what do you say, sleepwalked? Sleepwalked. Are you a sleepwalker?
Starting point is 01:18:06 Are you a sleepwalker? Yeah. Yeah. Is it something that happens and maybe your partner has to keep like an extra lock on the door or some kind of like. Yeah, safeguard the house. Someone messaged in saying, I sleepwalk and I wake up the next day and I know when I've been sleepwalking because I'm exhausted.
Starting point is 01:18:20 I wake up and I'm like. Well, you've got like leaves on your feet. You're like, how do I have leaves on my feet? You've still got your trainers on. Where did I run? So, are you a sleepwalker? Have you ever done it? It's a question we're asking this morning.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Yeah. And yes. So many. I sleepwalked one night, ran a bath, but the tap was only on full hot. Luckily, my mum heard the water, thought it was weird, got up and was like, what are you doing? And stopped me. Otherwise, I would have like severely burnt myself.
Starting point is 01:18:55 Do you reckon your body though would have gone, this is hot, don't get in? And what can you, like snapped you out of it? It might have been too late if you'd flopped straight in. Oh, okay. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Scary. Lots of people messaging about sleep arousal.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Very much so. Like doing what? I could tell you off here if you want. Some of them, very detailed. But like the example you used earlier, like sleeping with the neighbor and not remembering. It's a lot of like my husband or my partner and a girl I used to see. Lots of those sorts of stories of people like that sort of intimacy, not just walking next door and having sex with essentially a stranger. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Yeah. Somebody else said, when I was younger, I slept walked. Mum walked in, I'd cut off my curtains at head height with nail scissors. How long would that take with nail scissors? Forever. Through some curtains. What triggers that specific activity? I've got no idea.
Starting point is 01:20:00 That's wild. All right, so many messages and calls coming through. We'll get to more of those next. Sleep walking. She's just done All right, so many messages and calls coming through. We'll get to more of those next. Sleep walking. She's just done this on sleep arousal. Sexsomnia, someone says it's called. Yeah. I didn't know that was such a big thing.
Starting point is 01:20:15 So many people have messaged in about it. They said, somebody messaged in, this is a female. I'm a sleep arousal person. There's been many times I've woken up at the exact right moment of enjoyment. Completely confused as to what's happening. I used to get angry at my husband saying he needed to wake me up first and he'd always be like you kicked this off. You absolutely
Starting point is 01:20:33 instigated this. Wow. And after that he tried to stop me for a while but I was apparently very persistent so he just learned to enjoy it. Now wow. Is there a way the eyes open, right? Not always. Somebody else said, my partner
Starting point is 01:20:49 suffers from sleep arousal. I know when it's the case that he's asleep because he's far more passionate. A far more passionate lover. He's a better lover. He's a better lover when he's asleep than he is when he's awake. Is that offensive? Would you be offended?
Starting point is 01:21:06 You'd be like, why don't you just... My unconscious self is better. Do that thing where you... Go to sleep and unlock the... Unlock the secret. What was Fight Club, eh? It was Tyler Durden. Oh, Tyler Durden, yeah. Unlock the Brad Pitt. Rebecca, you've sleepwalked before.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Yeah, yeah, I do it all the time. Wow, and do you have anything to stop you doing it, like locks on the doors or? No, I never really go very far. I'm amazed that people can get through an entire intercourse session and then not remember it. That's beyond me. Right.
Starting point is 01:21:48 So what kind of stuff do you do when you sleepwalk? Well, mine is also, especially when I was younger, I would get really stressed about the possibility of sleepwalking if I was somewhere else. So, for example, I was on school camp and, you know, we'd be really tense about it because something crazy might happen and everything is terrifying
Starting point is 01:22:09 when you're at intermediate school. And I woke up one morning and there was all these people in our cabin saying, isn't this your duvet? And they had found it like way on the other side of the camp in the middle of the field.
Starting point is 01:22:22 And I was in my bed with like nothing on me, freezing cold. And I had no my bed with like nothing on me, freezing cold. And I had no memory of that. But yeah, it was like a worse nightmare than that. See, that's scary. And people have messaged in that sort of stuff. Somebody said, my brother was a sleepwalker. He used to unlock all the external doors to the house.
Starting point is 01:22:36 It wasn't good when you live on the main street. No. That's worrying. My brother does as well. And I have a distinct memory of him getting up one night, and hopefully he's not listening, and opening the drawer and peeing in the drawer, closing the drawer, getting back into bed.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Oh, Vaughan's done that, but he was just drunk. I've been in the hotel room when it's happened. It's a confusing time for everyone. That was more sleeping pills, though, wasn't it? And jet lag, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what we blame. That's a story for another time.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Rebecca, thanks. You're called Kennedy. Your stepmum sleepwalks? Yes. Good morning. Yes, my stepmum. She used to wake up like going fully downstairs into the kitchen and like cooking spaghetti or like, you know.
Starting point is 01:23:22 It worries me when cooking's involved, eh? Because then something's hot, something can be left on, a fire can start. Like, I leave the element on when I'm awake, let alone asleep. Kennedy, what time was she doing this? Like, I'm not too sure exactly, middle of the night, but there's like a bunch of other things too. Like, she would wake up outside, like, yelling at the dog. One time, she woke, like, my dad woke up and she half, like, climbed out the window so
Starting point is 01:23:48 he could, like, pull her back inside. Oh, my God. Yeah. And then this other time she, like, my dad woke up and she was, like, on top of him, like, strangling him, being like, I'm going to kill you because you're so fat. And he's like, oh, my God, this is a real wake up call. You know how you're angry at your partner when you wake up because you've had a dream about them? Are they allowed
Starting point is 01:24:10 to be angry at you for stuff you do when you sleep? 100%. Kennedy, thanks for your call. Some text messages. Somebody jumped out a window sleepwalking. There's a comedian that did this. There was a comedian that did this. He used to suffer Conan O'Brien, one of Conan O'Brien's episodes on his podcast,
Starting point is 01:24:27 he talked to this comedian who was, like, famous for these, like, insane sleepwalking. He had this dream that a meteor was going to hit the hotel he was in, and he ran and he dived out of a shut window. Didn't die? No, no, no, he didn't die. He did sleep tests and everything, and he signed himself over to science, being like, fix this, because next time it could be way worse.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Oh, my God. There is, and he did a whole stand-up about it. You'd want to get your partner to maybe, you'd want to handcuff yourself to the bed with a little bit of rope maybe. What happened, Fanny? Somebody said, my daughter does this all the time. We'll just be watching TV, and then all of a sudden she's behind us. Like a horror movie.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Terrifies us, but you just have to steer her back into bed. Are you supposed to wake them up or are you not? Is that just an urban legend? You can wake them up. Because on Step Brothers is where they sleep.

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