ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch Vaughan & Megan Podcast - March 16th 2020

Episode Date: March 15, 2020

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Hello and welcome to the Fletch, Vaughan and Megan podcast, brought to you by McCafé. Grab yourself a delicious barista-made coffee for only $4. Thank you, Ash. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Good morning. Wow, just crazy times, huh? Mm-hmm. Hearing the news update just then, I've read Austria, they're going to limit social gatherings to five people. No more than five.

Oh, there's too many of us here. Oh, I'll see you guys later then. No. Because there are three producers out there. Because you know I'm Austrian. You are as far from Austrian as it gets. By rules, don't I have to follow their law? Yeah, right.

Regardless of where I am. Technically, we're in a room, so we're three. Okay. And the producer's your three out there. Yeah, okay. And we just have to stagger who goes home, so we're not all in the same room. Well, if I go out to get coffee, one of you has to leave the room.

I'll go home. I will volunteer. You'll volunteer to go home. Yep, I will put my hand up. A volunteerist tribute. Yep. What about this chap over the weekend?

This fella. This chap. Who came to New Zealand after getting tested in Australia but didn't wait for the results. Oh, yeah. Which is one thing

and silly. Yeah. But then his photo and name were plastered everywhere. I know. I was like, ooh, that's a witch hunt. That's a witch hunt in the making, right? Yeah, that's not good.

I didn't know about that. But that's when so much of it is personal responsibility. 100%. And if there's one thing we lack as a species, it's personal responsibility. Yeah. Sheesh. All right, on the lighter side of things, today on the show,

Love is Blind, one of the top Netflix shows in the country. Gigi and Damien. Now, if you've watched Love is Blind, very dramatic couple. They're going to join us both on the phone. Now, she's in the trailer for the show, eh? For those. Yeah. She's the one that, Like, this is the famous...

She called him out for his lovemaking. Yeah, that she wasn't as satisfied as he was. He said it was the best sex he'd had in his life, and she said, you notice how I'm not saying it back? Yeah. Awkward. Savage awakening.

But still together. Yeah. They got back together after the show. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll chat to them about all of that. He's submissive then. Or he's done a course in the meantime.

Oh, yeah. Or maybe he listened. Yeah. Novel approach. All right. They're on the show with us at quarter to eight, and our secret sound continues. $100,000 is the current jackpot.

All thanks to Save My Bacon. Your next shot coming up at 7. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. All right, you lot, listen up. It's story time. Story time. I've got three news headlines for news stories here. Odd, quirky, unusual news stories,

and Vaughan and Megan must pick one only. Headline one, Ohio police ask criminals to stop crime during COVID-19. Headline two, repeat caller. And headline three, concrete truck driver DUI. Oh, God. Concrete truck driver. Shivers. It's not the person you want.

No. Tiddly, is it? Good Lord. Arum. I like two because it didn't mention coronavirus. Yeah. I think we should take every avenue, not marked. Yeah.

Put some light relief during these weird times. What was the first one? Police ask criminals to knock it off. During COVID-19. I think that was one of those, like the story the other week about meth. Like if you were worried about your meth being contaminated with coronavirus, take it into the police. Right. Just one of those humorous police.

They're looking to lighten the mood as well. You've got something in your mouth. What is that? What was that? Fluff. Yeah, a little bit of fluff. Isolate him. Yeah, yeah.

I'm with Megan. You want a repeat caller? Yeah. It's not. I'm going to have to plug in the audio for this one because we go now to the UK. Oh, for Christ's sake. Yes, I accept cookies.

Europe, love cookies. The bloody Europe and the UK love a cookie alert. We go now to the UK. A man who has previously been jailed for calling 999 has been given a suspended sentence for repeating the crime. Reese. Now, it's pilot with two Ts. Would that be pilot or pilot?

Pilot. Pilot. Ira can hit the T quite hard on the end. Pilot. Pilot, but don't French it up. Reese. Pilot. I reckon hit the T quite hard on the end. Pilot. Pilot, but don't French it up. Reese Pilot. Reese Pilot. Was given a 24-week prison sentence last year

after he burped down the phone at 999 operators because he was bored. Oh, my God. Well, he's done it again. Cash price emergency. Yes, hi. I mean, obviously I know what you're doing, but you did this. You were doing this the other day.

Hello? Come on, man. They've got a lot of better things to do right now. So he continued to burp at police during his arrest, the court heard, back in November. He was then told that his offenses were not malicious and that he had learning difficulties. Oh, okay.

Yeah. But again, he did it again and has received another prison sentence. How long for? Well, this is a suspended sentence. What does suspended mean? It means that he, it's like you got six months suspended, meaning if you slip up again. Right.

You're just going straight in. Ten weeks. And if he slips up, he's back in. And he was also ordered to pay a victim surcharge of £122 and do 40 days rehab. Burp rehab. Okay. That works.

I can see how that would work. All right. 12 past six coming up. Secret sound. $100,000. Your first shot. And coming up on the show, you know when you put your washing on

and then you forget about it? As many of us do. All the time. How long can you afford to leave that in there before you have to rewash your washing? You just give it a sniff, don't you? Give it the old sniff test. We've got a science. I always just give it a quick 30 minute

re-wash because I don't want either one of Manky towels. I'm not going to leave it in there until Malkin. I was thinking overnight tops. Okay. You've often thought if you put clothes in to wash in the washing machine and then you forget about them and then you only just discover them

when you go to wash some more clothes or a load of towels, how long would you leave them in there before they need a rewash? If it's the next day, I usually rewash. Right. Like, yeah. Any more than a couple of hours, I'll rewash. Oh, okay. What if it's a hot day and it's got a chance to go a bit...

Well, it depends what it is. If it was towels, probably just chuck them up anyway because whatever. But clothes, definitely not. Towels I also get off the line when they're not quite dry because they're going in the hot water cupboard anyway. So you should be right. It's a dry area. No, but they're all folded.

They're not going to dry properly. No, they dry properly. I'm not talking wet. I'm not being wet. But you know when you go to get your clothes off the line and maybe the sun's gone down and they feel a little bit cold. I always touch it to my face. I reckon you can tell because you're like wet or cold.

And then you touch it to your face and you can tell. What part of your face? You shouldn't be touching your face in the current environment. No, but the towels are clean. Is it the lips? Yeah. The lips can tell if it's cold or wet. I feel like you can tell if it's cold or wet, yeah.

I didn't know your towels have lipstick on them. I don't have lipstick on all the time. I'm going to try that next time. Yeah. Just use your hand. It's skin as well. Back of the hand? No, but your hand can't tell if it's cold or wet.

Yeah. Really? Back of the hand. Okay. Yeah, so if they're, like, cold, I'll always just get them in and put them in the hot water cup and I'll, like, do your thing hot water cup. But experts have said you can leave them overnight for up to 12 hours without needing to rewash them.

No way. Yeah, the clothes. Oh, no, I don't know about that. No way. Oh no, I don't know about that. Sometimes I think if you've got a particularly fragrant washing powder or liquid, that can hide like a little bit of dampness. Yeah, but it's just... You smell them and you're like, nah, they smell okay, but it might be... You know, sometimes you just get a t-shirt, if that's happening, you just like give it

a sniff, you're like, oh no, that was out too long. Yeah, that might need a rewash. So over an 8 to 12 hour period, it's unlikely that any unwanted odour will form and even less likely that bacterial mildew will develop. Have they said about how long you should leave it on the line? Because there's people in my neighbourhood that leave their washing like four days.

Really? Yeah. But then the sun would... And I was like, birds might poo on it. You know what? The biggest thing you've got to worry about if you're going to leave them out, what I've found is that spiders will make their home in them. If you leave something for too long, you've got to watch the spidery.

We've mismuffeted... What are you shaking your head for? This is yuck. We've mismuffeted... You know, that's kind of weird. It's the stuff that you buy that you spray. It's anti-spider. Oh.

It flushes them out and if they stay there, I'm coming down. I'm coming down too. You spray it and if they stay, they die. They get the hell out. Okay. Because, yeah, they live in the washing line and all the parts. Like we've got one of those old spinning round washing lines

and it's hollow on the end so they can get in there. Oh, yuck. And they love in there. And then I guess, especially with like a black T-shirt on a sunny day. Yeah, right. It's nice and warm. They might snuggle in there. Oh, yuck.

But you've had a couple of times where I shake out the old towels and I get them inside and a spider falls out. Oh, grim. That's the only thing about leaving anything on the line for too long. But as for leaving them in the washing machine, you can leave them, you know, 8 to 12 hours is fine. So if you do a wash and then you wake up in the morning, you hang it, that's not been too long, you're right as rain.

Martha Stewart agreed. So she has spoken. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. So with coronavirus panic sweeping everywhere, people are not just stockpiling supplies, like actual, you know, like food and stuff. They're also trying to make sure that while they're in isolation, they're having a good time because Kiwis are stockpiling batteries, lube. Oh, right.

Okay, I was going to say the torches. And adult fun toys. What? Well, you never know. You might be in isolation for two weeks and you don't want it to break after day three. Yeah, apparently there's a surge in sales of people buying all of those things. Batteries, lubes and toys. And toys.

Wow, okay. Yeah. And apparently Pornhub has actually reported a spike, not only in people going on their website, but searches of coronavirus and COVID-19. Oh yeah, I've seen, what, like sexy COVID-19 role play or something? Pictures. We talked to them.

No, I haven't seen the pictures. They haven't gone looking for it. Yeah. It was one of the questions on, have you been paying attention last week? And I was like, it can't be real. And they're like, no, there is. And they showed me an article and it was like,

people wearing respiratory masks. Yeah. Being like, pushing against each other's masks. I'm like, that's not hot. That's frustrating. Because you just want to actually kiss them. But you can't. Yeah. And that was the thing it was like someone's been isolated because they're a

suspected carrier and someone else is like having sex with them. It's like, no, that's how you get it. Don't be silly. So in parts of Italy, well in Italy because the whole country's in lockdown now, but they could see when isolation went into effect, huge spikes in traffic.

Well, because also Pornhub gifted Italians free premium subscriptions. Right, okay. Because they're like, well, they're not going to work. A lot of them are staying home and they need stuff to do. Wow. Massive spike. People are always. They're very onto it, aren't they?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When they release the stats and post all this, it's going to be very interesting to see the stats. And does this also mean that there will

be like a mini baby boom in nine months? Yeah, probably. Probably, because people are inside, so they're like should we just... But last Wednesday, March 11th, their worldwide traffic was 5.7% higher than usual for a Wednesday. For a Wednesday. Wow.

What, does it say how many hours were spent collectively? No, but I do know that 1.5 million people searched COVID, coronavirus or COVID-19. That's what always... It's going to be hard if the whole family's isolated, isn't it? Because normally it's when, what? Pop down to the supermarket, like, how long are you out for? Oh my God.

How do you know that? Well, you tell us all the time. Oh yeah, that's right. Shush. No, I don't. What? What? ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. If you're in Dunedin and you saw the Armed. Oh yeah, that's right. Shush. No, I don't know. What? What? ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan.

The podcast. If you're in Dunedin and you saw the Armed Offenders Squad, this was on Thursday. Defenders or offenders? What did I say? Armed Offenders Squad.

Armed Offenders. I would say Armed Defenders, but it's offenders, isn't it? Because they're dealing with armed offenders. I always thought they were the defenders. Oh, that's kind of cooler.

So they're armed defenders, but they are dealing with the armed offenders. But it's because you run it together, it always sounds like you say defenders. Armed offenders. Armed offenders. That's kind of cooler. Defenders. So if you live in Dunedin, this was in Abbotsford, and you saw them and you've had a little panic,

I can tell you not to panic. So there was the sound of a couple of gunshots and a male yelling. And that would, I'd call the police. Yeah. That would scare the crap out of me. And so the armed defenders squad turned up. Yeah.

Only to find that a teenager was playing Fortnite. And at the same time when he's yelling at his mates on Fortnite, you know, giving instructions or whatever, motorbike backfired twice. Oh, so is it? Right. It wasn't even in the sound

of the gunshots on the game. Yeah. It was motorbike backfiring as this guy's yelling. Okay. And so, yeah, the armed offenders are like, whilst

the person did the right thing calling the police. Yeah. Could we ask that gamers maybe tone down their excitement a little? Oh, are you kidding?

Just scaring the neighbours. You're going for that battle royale, baby. You don't want to turn it down. Or at least give your neighbours a heads up being like, I'm about to play Fortnite.

Do you know with all the self-isolation around the world, there's Call of Duty Warzones out. Is that the one you like? Call of Duty? I got real hooked on that Call of Duty game. Was it the original Call of Duty? The World War 2 one? Yeah, one of the Call of Duties.

That was so good. I just googled the stats on that. 15 million people just Googled the stats on that. 15 million people around the world are already playing that. Which is the same as like a battle royale. It's like Fortnite or... Is that how many people? PUBG. Wow. And that's, yeah, that's the new one.

So 15 million people are online playing it. I'm just thinking of self-isolation. It's just a good time to... But it's going to really test the nation's broadband and internet. Because I was thinking of self-isolation. It's just a good time to get their pills. But it's going to really test the nation's broadband and internet because I was reading Italy, everyone's in lockdown there. Their traffic has gone up, I think, maybe two-thirds or something. Wow, really? Yeah, because obviously everyone's at home.

Yeah, you think about everything you do at home, unless you're reading a book or doing chores. It's probably a more intensive use of the internet than you do at home, unless you're reading a book or doing chores. Like Netflix. It's probably a more intensive use of the internet than you would at work, where it might be emails and stuff, but this would be streaming videos or playing video games and pretty much.

I might get into preserving. I'm trying to think of what you can do that doesn't involve going online. I'm going to preserve some. We're knitting. Stone fruit. Knit something. No, I don't want to knit.

That's boring. What's stone fruit going to get? We're kind of out of season. You've missed the season. No, you can get like all like seconds or something because then that also counts as like, you know, like stockpiling food because then I can pop my preserved stone fruit. Oh, yeah, what?

Day 44 of isolation. Pop open another jar of peaches. Lovelets. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. From the ZM think tank, this is the top six. Hello there. Akon was gifted a parcel of land in Senegal by the government of Senegal to make a city. He's from there?

Yes. Yeah. He's of Senegalese descent. He announced plans for a futuristic crypto city in 2018, and I think people were like, that's crazy man's talk. Well, anyway, it's happened. 2,000 acres of land by the president of Senegal. Okay, so he can't be the president

because it's already... He can't be the president because it's within a country, but he could be like the mayor and in time run for president. But the top six things you need to know about Akon City. Number six.

It's called Akon City, but its full name is Aliwam Damala Badara Akon Thiam City. But just Akon for short. Is that his full name? Yeah, that's his full name. Whoa. That's a lot.

That's a lot of A's in there. I'm just looking at the spread of vowels. I was just thinking, you know, when he's like Akon music. Like it wouldn't... Aliyaam Damala Badara

Akon Theam music. Yeah. Few more. Syllables. Almost feels like a haiku, doesn't it? Yeah. I don't know if your name was like a haiku. Are there any photos of this city yet?

No, they've only just got the land. Yeah, that hasn't been built. Oh, no. No. Number five on the list of the top six things you need to know about Akon City. It also trades exclusively in his own digital cash currency called Acoin. That's good. The bigger denominations are called Aconotes.

And you can use your Aconican American, Aconican Express. I wrote that down. I was like, that's going to be easy to say, but didn't practice it. No. Iconerican Express. There we go. Iconerican Express. No, go. Iconerican Express. No, that's very hard to say with all those sounds in it.

But yeah, no, he's done it. I don't know how a digital currency works inside an existing country's currency. Yeah. Works alongside it or? You have to go to the exchange a lot. A lot. Number four on the list of the top six things you need to know about Akon City. There's no restrictions on how you can discipline your kids.

So if they're being naughty and you want, you can smack that. I love them. To it, behave, smack that. Get better grades, smack that. Number three on the list of the top six things you need to know about Akon City. P-Money and Savage are honorary members of the city council. Because of their song. Good.

Remember when he had a bunch of songs with New Zealand artists? Yeah. Yeah. And then it just blew up internationally for him. Yeah. I wonder if they were all like, come on. What? Give them more money?

No, get us back on another song. Oh, you're right. No. We'll help you out with another song. We'll get some more ideas. Too big for them now on another song. Oh, you're right. We'll help you out with another song. We'll get some more ideas. Too big for them now. I looked at his discography. Yeah.

He's worked with everybody. Yeah, right. Like. Didn't he create Gaga pretty much? Yeah. He found her. He, that's right. Yeah, he found Gaga.

So his net worth is $100 million. Yeah, he's worth eight. Huh. T-Pain apparently played a major part in T-Pain's. Yeah, no, and he's worked with Snoop Dogg. He's worked with everybody. Number two on the list of the top six things you need to know about Akon City. If you're one of the first people to live in or build in the city,

there's a guarantee you won't be lonely. You'll all be so lonely. He'll be there to keep you company. Yay. Great news. So that's good. And number one on the list of the top six things you need to know about Akon City. All the emergency services have different sirens.

Okay. So the police goes, convict, convict, convict. And the ambulance goes,vict Convict And the fire goes I don't know Differently There's a convict I can't remember

What the first one was Convict Convict Convict Thanks for the help there Yeah Megan That is today's top six

ZM's Fletch Warner Megan The podcast ZM's Fletch Warner Megan, the podcast. ZM's $100,000 secret sound. With Save My Bacon. All thanks to Save My Bacon, making borrowing better for financially responsible Kiwis. Soundkeeper Gary, good morning.

Good morning, guys. Do you know I had a horrible thought over the weekend? What if you had to self-isolate? You thought about me on the weekend? Just for a moment. I was thinking more about the station and the big cash promo that we've got running at the moment. True. My wife brought that up as well.

So what would happen? Because you're like the only one that knows the secret sound. Phone. On the phone. I'd say probably. Just tell me. We can make that work. Yeah, probably a phone or I can record some. Just tell me. We can make that work. Yeah, probably a phone or I can record some no's that you can just play out.

Oh, no, because then you don't even know if it's right or wrong. We don't know if it's right or wrong, yeah. Yeah. Tell me. No, I'm not telling you. Megan, no, I can't do that. You can trust me. I'm sorry, it's not part of the rules. But yeah, I don't know.

I guess we just get on the phone. Okay, will you stay away from crowds, please? Yes. Clea, good morning. Good morning, guys. Happy Monday. Happy Monday. You're very happy for a Monday.

I finally got through on Secret Sound. That'll do it. She could win $100,000. It is a happy Monday. Well, it could be. All right, well, this is the Secret Sound, Clea. As you know, you've probably poured over quite a bit. Well, $100,000 is all yours if you can tell us what that sound is.

Yeah, I think it's cutting honeycomb and spreading it on toast. Okay, well, Soundkeeper Gary is a beekeeper. Claire, do you have any experience in this field? Beekeeping? No. Eating toast? Yeah. Oh yeah. Spreading honey on toast? Yes. But cutting honeycomb as well.

Ever done that before? No, I've never cut honeycomb and I guess that's the part of the sound that I'm a little maybe confused on. Okay. Do you eat honeycomb on toast? Personally? Yeah.

Not a fan. It gets quite sticky in your teeth. Yeah. But it was a big thing in the 50s, like back in the day. Was it? That was like their candy. Yeah, because it's all waxy and... Yeah.

Yeah. Then you have some chewing gum. Yeah, I like it. It's like chewing gum. Oh, because it's all waxy. Yeah. Yeah. Then you have some chewing gum. Yeah, I like it. It's like chewing gum. Oh, do you like it? Yeah. Oh, okay. I'll get you something.

Oh, yes. Claire. Unfortunately, that is not what the secret sound is. But I might be able to get you some honeycomb too, because you seem happy. Oh, thanks, Gary. Alrighty. How's your Monday now, Claire?

Oh, hey. I'm still happy. I've still got time to find out what the secret sound is. Okay, fair enough. You can't get Claire down. No, you can't. I love it. All right, Claire, we'll have another chance coming up at 8 o'clock.

All thanks to Save My Bacon to win that cash. ZM. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. Well, the deadline was 1 a.m. this morning for travellers to make it back to New Zealand before they have to self-isolate for two weeks. That's the new rule.

Anyone coming back into New Zealand, Pacific Islands, exempt. Because there's still not been a case in the Pacific Islands, has there? No. Of COVID-19. Don't believe so. But Australia's followed suit. Yeah. If you're going into Australia,

you have to self-isolate for two weeks as well, which effectively puts an end to tourism in the short. Yeah, but that's the thing. You can't go to Australia for a shopping weekend in Melbourne, can you? No. Otherwise, you have to come back here and have two weeks.

Go to Australia and stay for two weeks and just do online shopping, I don't know, and get it sent to the hotel to save on to save on freight because were you saying your brother-in-law was coming back at the weekend

yeah I messaged him when because I was watching the press conference on Saturday afternoon yep getting all the information

and I knew he was due back from Australia because he works in Australia and kind of splits his time between New Zealand and Australia and I said oh when are you due back things are changing and then 20 minutes later he called me he's like I'm just at the airport I splits his time between New Zealand and Australia. And I said, oh, when are you due back? Things are changing.

And then 20 minutes later, he called me. He's like, I'm just at the airport. I've just arrived in New Zealand. What's happening? Yeah, he doesn't expect, he said he doesn't really expect to be going back to Australia until June, just because their office is a lot of international travel. So everybody's just been working from home, remotely working. As I'm imagining quite a few people will probably be doing today.

Yeah. There's massive companies in New Zealand kind of limiting mass gatherings. And if you're in a massive company. Yeah. So we're talking to an employment lawyer soon. She's going to come in studio. And any questions you have,

fire them through in the text now, actually. Yes. 9696, because a lot of people are asking, well, if work makes me go home, what are my rights? Or if I have to isolate, yeah, what are my rights? Do I still get paid? Questions like that.

And there might be different answers for different industries. Yeah, and I'm guessing contracts are different for every job, aren't they? So I guess it's quite complex, but we'll try and get through as many of those as we can soon in about 10, 15 minutes. So fire those through 9696.

But the trickle-down effect is massive. So all these companies and travel agents, I know that I've got a friend on my Facebook, well she's my friend, but I saw her on my Facebook timeline. She posted something that said, anyone

want to know how it feels to be in the travel industry during the coronavirus pandemic? Remember when the Titanic was sinking and the band continued to play? Well, we're the band. So they're feeling it. They would be dealing with a lot at the moment. So much.

So airlines have said that if you're not flying, so if you need to ring up and change a flight or inquire about a flight, if it's not in the next 48, two to three days, don't ring them. Because you'll be on. They've got more urgent matters. Yeah. They've got to get people back from, you know, countries.

And undated. Yeah. Yeah. And if you are calling anyone to try and reject plans or anything like that, just remember that they are struggling too. It's not their fault, is it? No, don't take it out on them. They didn't start coronavirus.

No. Gosh. Because, yeah, you're working in a call centre at a time like this. It'd be horrible. Oh, it'd be horrible. Everybody's really frustrated. Yeah. There'd be tears at the end of the day.

Yeah, for sure. It's 11 past seven. Next on the show, Voughton, you've had some unusual advice from the vet. Yeah, the vet visit on Friday. Some behavioral techniques. All right. Discussed. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.

Friday had the vet visit. Yeah. The farmlet to trench and jab and do all the stuff with the animals. It was a sad day morning when you said good morning with all your animals. I was like, man, you've got so many animals. It's such a responsibility to care for all of those. They're pretty. They're way easier than dogs.

Really? And they're in the paddock, aren't they? They're fine. Yeah, they're all right. As long as they've got water and something to eat. Oh, that's actually, I've been feeding them too much. Everybody's a bit fat. Or they said everybody's fed.

I made the cows fat, guys. I made the cows too fat. I feed them say everybody's fat. Oh, but vets always... I made a cow's fat, guys. I made a cow's too fat. I feed them all the treats and molasses and stuff. But vets always say that. No, they don't. No, they do. They're always... They always lean on the side of caution.

When you look at Humphrey... No, you two overfeed your animals. When you look at... Karen was... Karen was a... Dumpty. Did you just fat shame me? Did you just fat shame my dead cat?

I felt like dumpty was a nice way to put it. Dumpty. That was the breed. British Blues... There it comes. British Blues are fatties. They're little cute fatties. I remember taking him to the vet once

and in the vet was a chart about fat cats and the picture they used for the fat cats was my breed of cat. Personally attacked. But thanks for fat shaming my dead cat. When you look at Humphrey from front on, it's the miniature

Highland cow. He goes head and then just circle. He'd be easy to draw. But that's what cows are. They goes head and then just circle. Oh! He'd be easy to draw. But that's what cows are. They're meant to be fat circles. Are they?

Nah. Nah. Nah? Not that fat. Okay. Yeah, the goats are getting a bit better. Yep. But they're still fat. But the sheep are fat.

How do you make them? Just feed them less. Oh, I was like, do you have to like take them for a run or like? You could probably walk a goat. Yeah. But then you put a fence up, right? So that can't get as much grass. But then goats are just like, I'll just push my way through that.

Are you getting a shock? Oh, yeah, I'm getting a massive, massive shock. But I'm a goat and I'm just dumb. I don't care. I just do what I do. Yeah, right. So, yeah, everybody's okay though apart from being a little on the chubby side. Right.

But we are having behavioral issues with Helen, the goat. The goat. Now, I'm not. Helen's fine with me. Yeah. But any female, Helen deems, I don't know, competition, maybe, for my affection. What if your wife came along?

She hates her. Hates her. So, sheep, like, they, like, rams.ates her. Hates her. So sheep, like they like rams, they bunt heads. They just run and they bunt heads. But goats do this thing where they go up on their back legs and their front legs are up off the ground and they boom, drop their head into

things. So they do that to Sade. Helen would do that to Sade. Yeah, yeah. She goes up on her back legs. Helen! Back off, bitch. Because her little tail goes... And I'm like, here we go. So we were talking about Helen's aggressive behaviour. Okay. And Laura, the vet, said spit on your hand and wipe it on her face.

I was like, Sade, is that Sade? I don't know if your wife would like that. I'll try, though. What have you done? Didn't work. She's angrier than ever. What is spitting on your hand and wiping it on your goat's face? You or Sade?

So Sade would spit on her hand and wipe it on the goat's face. Well, that's going to piss her off. Helen's not going to take that. Laura got told this. Laura the vet got told this by a crazy goat woman. Who had goat, well, wasn't like a crazy goat woman. Right. So she's passed it on to a few of the clients. Right.

And they all have said it works. The problem is Sade's got to get close enough to Helen to spit and wipe it on her face. I'll video it when it happens because Helen will be going up and Sade will be trying to spit on her hand and wipe it on her face. So is it like the smell? So that's what we kind of said. I said, is it because then when you come into the paddock,

your smell's been on them the whole time, so they don't smell you and deem you a threat. That's got to be it, right? Or the goat is just like, oh, my God, they spat on their hand and wiped it on my face. How am I supposed to? Like, they've dominated me. And I said, could you cut out the middleman

and just spit straight on the goat? And she said, it's a bit disrespectful. As opposed to doing it with your hand. See, if someone was going to spit on me, I'd be like, oh my God,

but if someone went and spit on the hand and then wiped it on, I'd be like, you're nuts. Like you're crazy. But they'll just think it's like a wet pat.

A wet pat that smells, I don't nuts. Like, you're crazy. But they'll just think it's like a wet pat. A wet pat that smells. I don't know. But anyway, stay tuned. I'm really fascinated to know if this works. Well, I told the girls. Right. And they were like, because Helen rears up at them too. And they're like, let's go do it.

So we were out in the paddock. But then she was on her best behaviour. Oh, right. But then do you think you could all three of them do it? The girls? Or just one at a time? I don't know. And do you have to do this constantly? Like every couple of days? No, but if she's on you could all three of them do it? The girls or just one at a time? I don't know. And do you have to do this constantly, like every couple of days?

No, but you still need to spit on her when she's on her best behaviour, don't you? No, I don't think so. I think you only reprimand someone for misbehaving when they're misbehaving. So your parents used to walk into the lounge and be like, all right, kids, line up. Time to kick your ass. You're all getting a precautionary smack. Right. I know you're about to do something.

Yeah. Which, to be honest, when I was a kid, it was a fair call. Yeah. And if you were quiet, there was something brewing. Yes. Or something broken. All right, 19 past seven. Next, we're going to speak to an employment lawyer.

Liz Coates is going to join us in studio to answer any questions you have about your employment ahead of COVID-19. It's uncertain times amid COVID-19 and although there's, you know, only eight cases in New Zealand, everyone's worried about employment and where they stand. So to answer a few questions for us this morning, employment lawyer Liz Coates joins us in studio. Good morning. Good morning. Are you busy at the moment?

Yeah. It has been a busy time, that's for sure. Yeah. So I guess straight off the bat, the question that I can think of is if you needed to self-isolate, what is the deal with getting paid? Is that sick leave?

Is that holiday pay? Yeah, the answer really is it depends. It depends on a few things. So it depends on whether you can work from home, depends on whether you're actually unwell, depends on whether you've got leave available, and probably depends on your employer's policies and your employment agreement.

So all of those factors kind of go into the mix to work out the answer to that question. Now, I signed a contract without reading it. Which sounds like a joke, but did you read yours? No. Yeah, so long, lots of things. So would it be a time to look at your employment contract to see, and what would this be under in there?

Well, this specific situation is very unlikely to be in there but it's worth dusting off the agreement to have a look at what your leave entitlements are and I suppose generally just talking to your employer about what policies they're thinking about introducing to respond to this kind of situation because I doubt they will have anything before now that particularly deals

with it. Right. Even because this isn't the first time like SARS and swine and avian bird flu, there's been cases, not to this degree perhaps, but there has been cases where there's been a possible pandemic situation and it still hasn't got into most. Yeah, I guess because we've never gotten to the point where there's been such widespread self-isolation. I don't think employers have really had to grapple with these kind of questions and work out what the answers would be if their employees are asking those questions.

Wow. As an employer for a small business, is there, for those bosses, where can we go to ask for advice on how we should deal with employees? Yeah, I think that you should be definitely reaching out to any industry associations or industry bodies because I know that a lot of them are very active and advocating on behalf of their members at the moment. EMA, Business New Zealand, they're all organisations that are offering support. But I think just generally from an employer and an employee's perspective, the MB guidance which is being

updated is a good first port of call at least to give you a bit of a steer an employer and an employee's perspective, the MB guidance, which is being updated, is a good first port of call, at least to give you a bit of a steer on how to answer some of these questions. Yeah. So that's been updated because obviously the situation changed at the weekend. Yeah, I expect it will be updated today to deal with the latest travel restrictions.

But it has certainly been updated over the last few weeks as the dynamics have kind of changed as the situation's evolved. Is there a way, well, if you desperately needed to travel, I mean, travel restrictions aside now, but if you really needed to travel, can your employer stop you? Yeah, it's a really interesting question because annual leave is ultimately by agreement between an employer and an employee. So I guess it'll be a question of when you say really need to travel, what that really means. You know, the official guidance is basically discouraging people from international travel unless you absolutely can't avoid it. So if that's the starting point, then I expect that you and your employer would need to have a conversation about what the reasons are and

what that's going to mean in terms of that 14-day stand down. Yeah. We've got some questions that people have messaged in. You may or may not have answers to these because they are very specific. What if you work in a mall and the mall gets shut completely out of your control? Would you be entitled to payment? Yeah, I guess it depends on whether that's a temporary shutdown or a permanent one. If it's a permanent one, then that could possibly be a redundancy situation rather than just,

you know, a leave question. If it's a temporary shutdown, then probably your employer and you are going to need to have a conversation about what your employment agreement says about this kind of situation. It may have clauses that deal with this possibility or your employer may have kind of a policy in terms of encouraging people to take leave in that situation. Right. And someone said,

I just started a new job a month ago, so technically not entitled to any leave. If I can't work from home, will my job be safe? There's really no guarantees on that question, that's for sure. Right. I work in a hospital.

If I'm exposed to COVID-19 and have to self-isolate but have no leave entitlement, will I still get paid? I'm full-time and permanent and also pregnant. Wow. It's a horrible situation. I imagine that the DHBs are going to be having their own policies to deal with self-isolation questions,

including ones that are quite specific of that nature. So I think you should be talking to your employer and probably your union as well in terms of that situation. Right. So that's for employment fields with unions, that'd be a good place to go to for advice. Yeah, absolutely. Because I guess, you know, the collective power of a larger group of employees is going to be quite powerful. You know, particularly for nurses, there's going to be a large group of people who are all facing the same sort of fears and worries at the same time. And teachers as well,

because over the weekend, the mass gatherings, you know, there's new rules about mass gatherings, but what about teachers who effectively work at a mass gathering every day for like 10 hours, 12 hours a day? Yeah, I mean, I think obviously you have to wait to see what the rules are that are going to be developed in relation to mass gatherings.

I suspect that classrooms of 30 kids I think obviously you have to wait to see what the rules are that are going to be developed in relation to mass gatherings. I suspect that classrooms of 30 kids might not qualify as a mass gathering because I think it's going to be hundreds of people probably. But what about at lunchtime with the playground where it's just teaming with children, touching each other's faces and their own faces? Yeah, no, I expect that they'll have to work out what the answer is going to be to that question and that's going to be a combination of the Ministry of Education

and Ministry of Health probably. Wow. Busy times, crazy times. And I guess it's difficult because every situation is unique, isn't it, to the contract, isn't it? So it's not like you can give a definite answer for everybody. So just to go over that again, it's obviously easier like

when you work in a big organisation like here, the communication's very open, but if you're working in a small business and you don't have a union, what do you think the website's the best way to go? Yeah, I would say that that's the best first stop. Okay. And that's the M, what is it?

Oh, it's M-B-I-E. Right. If you just search for M-B-I-E and coronavirus, there's a specific page that deals with these kind of questions. Okay. And then the second point is just there's no substitute for good communication between you and your boss. That's what I was going to say.

Even if you're not feeling sick or you're not in any kind of position at the moment, like pre-empting it and having a conversation with your employers would be important and wise. Yeah, absolutely. And from an employer's point of view, you know, you've probably got people in your organisation who might be worrying about it. So there's no harm in speaking to them about it before they ask the question.

Yeah. And there'll be, I'm imagining, lots of bosses of small to medium businesses that probably have as many questions as their employees this morning, right? Because this is a developing situation. Yeah, absolutely. I think, you know, a lot of organisations want to do the right thing by their people when they naturally are concerned

about the worries of their employees, but they're also concerned about the worries of, you know, what this impact is going to be for their business. So, yeah, on both sides, there are lots of questions. And it's not sort of like the 14-day self-isolation, the impacts felt from this, especially on the economy and the finance sector and thus kind of everybody employed

is going to be far-reaching and much longer, isn't it? It feels like it's going to be a few months at least. Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely no economic expert, but I think that that would be safe to say for sure. Yeah, okay. Crazy times. Well, Liz Coates, thank you so much for joining us this morning. You're welcome.

Thank you. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. So yesterday, me and my friend were hanging out. We decided, and I don't know why, but we went with the thousands of people around the world that decided it would be a good idea to watch Contagion. Megan, we talked about this. Because when I watched that movie initially,

whenever it was released, was it 2016, years ago? No, it was 2011. Was it? Yeah. Oh, my God. It's nearly 10 years old. I remember when I saw it and I was like, man, that was a good movie,

but now I don't want to touch anything. So the problem watching it now is that it's less entertaining and a little bit too close to home. Yeah, right. Did you get through the whole movie? Yeah, because it gets to a point where that virus is much worse than what we're seeing now. Yeah. So then you're like, okay, well, no, we're okay. But initially there's scenes where they go to the supermarket and there's nothing on the shelves. And the official warning, you know, official word from the World Health Organization is to, like,

limit your time in public and not touch each other and don't shake hands anymore. And I was like, ooh, this is feeling close to him. And all because Gwyneth Paltrow did what? Shook hands with a chef who had been touching a pig. Pork that had been bitten by a bat. Yeah. Isn't that crazy?

Like, that was the other thing when I watched it. I was like, it was just Gwyneth. She shook hands with someone. And that went worldwide. It's actually mad that it doesn't happen more often. I'm listening to Joe Rogan's podcast.

I'm not a huge Joe Rogan guy so don't like pin that on me. Although the world's most popular podcast so lots of people are Joe Rogan people

but he talked to an infectious disease expert. Right. I've got like 15 minutes to go but already it's pretty fascinating. I saw that pumping up online over the weekend quite a bit. Really interesting.

Listen, super interesting. Is it interesting or scary? Because I've got no interest anymore in listening to anything that's going to scare me. No, it's informative. He said the people who are at the far end of the this is the end of the world, they're being silly,

and then people who are completely ignoring it are also being a bit silly and a bit naive. So you've got to be somewhere in the ground. Just be cautious. Yeah, but he said that he's surprised it's taken this long. He's got a photo, because he does lectures at a university, but he's worked for governments and everything. He said he's got a photo of,

is it chickens above ferrets or ferrets above chickens? Stop touching your face. I know. But I'm thinking. I'm stroking my bed and I'm thinking. God, thinking's become dangerous. Does it matter where the chickens and the ferrets are? No, no, no.

I was just trying to think of who was on top. And then the ferrets were underneath. Right. And did you know ferrets are the animal, if universities were allowed to use them, they would use ferrets for the study of flus because ferrets are like really prone to flu viruses. Why don't they use ferrets? Because they bite them.

No, I don't think there are... Oh, I don't care. People are able to use them. Fletch. But he said it was the ideal concoction of a bird and a ferret. He's like, that could make a... Oh, we've got to change the rules. Sick bird.

Get some ferrets in the labs. I'll pay you stack your ferrets and your chickens. No, get them in the labs. Let's test on them. Fletch. They're ferrets. They're pests. They're New Zealand.

They're New Zealand. They're pests. What is it, a mustalood? Is that the family that that's the ferrets, the stoats, the weasels? Yeah, so anyway, don't watch Contagion. So you could recommend not watching that. Well, I mean, it made me more cautious not to touch stuff and wash my hands a lot.

That's a work of fiction. Yeah. So you've got to remember that as well. Yeah. That hasn't happened yet. Yes. Yeah. Well, yeah, it hasn't happened.

No. All right, joining us on the phone next. Oh, sorry. Yeah, from the Netflix show Love is Blind. Gigi and Damien. Ooh-wee. They're together too. Spoiler alert. We've been obsessed with Love is Blind and joining us on the phone right now is Janina and Damien.

Good morning. Good morning. How are you guys? So excited to be on the phone with you. We're excited to have you. You guys are back together. That's what we got from the reunion episode. Last time we saw you, it was explosive and stuff.

And there was arguments and words said. How did you guys come back together? What was the first conversation? So the first conversation was that evening, the day of the wedding. And I felt like we had unfinished business. We had gone through such a, you know, a big emotional journey together and I didn't want to lose sleep over it. I wanted to know, you know, can we be friends? I know you're hurting and this wasn't easy for you.

It's not easy for me. So, you know, can we heal together? And we met up that night and just kind of cried out and hugged it out and wanted to see if we could survive outside of this crazy experiment. And we've been together ever since. Amazing. A good cry and a good hug. I tell you, that's a remedy for almost anything.

Yeah. I mean, you know, it's just, it's understanding where that other person is coming from. This journey wasn't easy for either of us. And I know that that wasn't an easy decision for me. I put him through a lot, right, throughout the whole experience. And if he needed more time, you know, I was there. I was there as well. I needed time too. So, you know, it's just, can we be together? And we've been, you know, taking it day by day ever since.

Okay. So if you've been together since, did you watch it? Because, I mean, this was filmed a while ago. Did you watch it as a couple at all unfolding as the show portrayed it? Yeah, we did. So it was definitely interesting watching yourself on TV for the first time. But she sort of watched it before me, and she's like, she came over to my house another night and said, we've got to watch this together. Like 5 a.m.

Yeah. Yeah, so we watched it together, and then the second set, we knew that was going to be a rough batch. So I sort of pre-watched it a few times and then had her watch it with me, so we were both ready and prepared for it. He took the blow, the initial blow, and kind of prepared me for what was to come. And we've been watching the finale and the reunion pieces and piece by piece together. But I've watched all of the seasons or all of the episodes a couple of times now. And it just gets easier and easier the more we watch it.

Have you had any moments now where you've been out in public and you've been recognized? Any crazy moments like that? Yes, every day step out the door. I've walked out of my complex and had people jump out of their car in the middle of the road. I love it. I'm walking through Atlanta and I was out there

two weeks ago and I probably got recognised by over 600 people in two and a half hours. Oh my god. Wow. It's so lovely. The airport. Do they all have comments to make about your relationship? Honestly, everyone's been super happy and just excited to see us together. And they're always like, we're rooting for you.

We're so happy you're together. And some people are like, the last time I saw Damien, he was a bad boy. But we're happy that you guys worked it out. That's fun to be reminded of, Damien. That would have been real cool. Do they give you free Netflix? Oh, I wish, right? I keep telling them.

I think they're working on that. That's a great idea. I never thought of that People on Netflix Getting free Netflix Yeah I mean You should at least Get a month free Oh yeah So you can watch it right

Yeah I mean my family Sharing my password So Yes Right Yeah We're going to block all this

Yeah You two were I mean we went along For the ride There was ups and downs There was lots of Fiery conversations Can I ask Do you regret Telling everyone I mean, we went along for the ride. There was ups and downs. There was lots of fiery conversations. Can I ask, do you regret telling everyone about your sex life?

So I think it was such a real and true moment that I was going through and it just kind of came out because I was getting married and this was something that, you know, sex is a pivotal part of marriage. And I thought about it for a year and a half and I kind of, you know, was not excited about this cringeworthy moment. But as soon as I saw it, I was like, I felt really bad for putting Damien, you know, in the public light about it. But we did work it out. And there was a lot of open communication and so much success that happened through that, you know, that heart, that hard moment. And, you know, I, I watch it and I just think if there's, you know,

one couple or one person or one woman or man that's able to have that conversation with their partner and just make their life a little better, that's all worth it for me. And it worked for us. So Damien was such a good sport about it. It's important to talk about. And I think you brought light to the fact that, you know, if you're not satisfied, women should speak up. Yeah, it's such a real thing.

And I didn't know that it was going to become this, I don't know, viral topic. But the fact that it is going around just says something, right? Like, this is something that we should be able to talk about. This is something that no one should feel ashamed of. No one should make you feel stupid

for feeling your own feelings. And I'm happy that I was able to open that conversation up. Yeah. So how long have you guys been together now? For a year and a half. Wow.

And is there any plans for, like, to officially tie the knot? No plans at this moment. I think we're still enjoying the aspects of being best friends and, you know, starting adventures together. You know, I think we both want a family. We both want kids. And I think, you know, if we decide when that time is ready,

that, you know, we'll look at those options again. We just want to make sure it's done right and on our own time. And no pressure. Yeah. And Damien, have you guys spoken about, like, would you propose? Because Janina proposed in the show. Is that something that you've spoken about? I mean, if I felt like it was the right time, I would do it again.

And if she felt like it was the right time, I would do it again. And if she felt like it was the right time, she may do it. It could add a few extra years to it because we're both wondering who's going to do it. But, you know, it was really good of her to do. I feel like, you know, the women empowerment move, which

is honestly good because there's so much out there where it's a guy's title or it's just, oh, like, this is what a man's supposed to do. And I think it's okay that she did that. I think it was respectful and I loved her enough not to let it, like, take over a piece of my manhood and say, well, you know what, I love you enough. Like, yeah, I'd be honored to for you to be able to step up and do that.

I literally clapped my hands and I was like, yes, girl. I loved it. Well, I mean, I saw that this was his way of expressing his love. And I was like, well, why not? Why can't I express my love in the same way? And our conversations about being equal, it just made sense. And it's funny, too, because I was on the guy's side in the beginning. I was like, after I dated all these girls, I was like, I'm literally the one that said this. I said,

there's not, because Nick and Vanessa were like, you know, you can propose to the girl, the girl can propose to you. There's no like, there's no rules.

And I looked at the guys in the whole room and I said, there's no way there's one woman on that side will propose to any of us after dating them.

And of course, I was the one that got proposed to. Awesome. Well, thanks so much for talking to you guys. We loved coming along

and thank you for taking us along your journey very happy to hear that you're still together and all the best for the future thank you so much

oh my god guys that was so cute that was so in sync we're one we're one thanks guys Flesh, Vaughan and Megan the podcast ZM what's that sound? Thanks, guys.

Making borrowing better for financially responsible Kiwis. Soundkeeper Gary, good morning. G'day, guys. This is officially the longest secret Sound we've ever done. Did you know that? Is it? Yes. By what today?

One day? Last Friday. Gary, you said it's on the day. On the day. Oh, sorry. Ready? And now the longest. Right, okay.

Obviously, we've got more money. What was the previous record? Six weeks. Yes, six weeks and on a Friday. So this week, making it is the longest. And fair enough, it's twice as much money,

but it must be going soon. Someone must. Because it's frustrating people. I was talking to a friend, she said she was at the hairdressers and the secret sound came on and they were all like, oh bloody, what is it? And they were getting a bit angry

that it hadn't been guessed and it was... Wait, you're at the hairdressers? No, my friend. I said my friend. Sorry. Don't rub your hair in my face. You can go to the hairdressers if you want to. Get a head massage.

A natter with the girls? Yeah. Exactly. Alright. Playing this morning. Sarah. Sarah, good morning. Hello. How are you? Good. You've got through and I mean, that's the hardest bit, getting through. It's so hard getting through. Well, the next bit's hard as well, it turns out,

because it's been six weeks. This is the secret sound. For $100,000, Sarah, what is that sound? Well, I'm just going to just say it out there, but I don't know if I'm right, but is it peeling the sticker off a sweet tango apple?

Very specific apple. Very specific. Why specifically sweet tango? I'm guessing that video had a lot of apples in it, and that was the time we were doing the sweet tango apple promotion. Ah, yes, yes, yes. They're getting a lot of free publicity now, aren't they? Well, the latest video

you've shown a logo shop. So it's a logo of an Apple. Well, that's what I'm assuming. Beyonce, not Beyonce, but I don't know. She's sweet. The honey, she's sweet. Sweet tango.

I don't know. Dirty dancing. They do a tango. I don't know. Dirty dancing. They do a tango. I don't know. They do a tango. Yeah, right. This proves one thing to me beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Radio advertising works. It does, yeah. It does. It certainly does. The original word of mouth advertising. And if it interests you, give us a call. We'll put you in touch

with a rep. You can just come through me. I'll clip the ticket. The rep will clip the ticket. A lot of tickets will get clipped. You already get paid, mate. Yeah, but I want to clip the ticket before I'm paid at the end of the ticket. Right, good, good.

Meanwhile, Sarah's sitting there stressing. I'm absolutely stressed. Come on. That's called double ending, Fletch. Yeah, right. You clip the ticket before and then you get some afterwards. Oh, yeah, okay. It's called double ending.

Yeah. Clip, double clip the tick. So, Gary, what is it? It's so good when the callers are moving us along. Come on, guys. Move, come on now. Sarah wants to get paid. What a, okay.

Well, as today, Sarah's payday. There's $100,000 on the line. Sarah's just waiting. No, I love you all, but quick, Gary, what is it? Sarah. It's not the secret, Sarah. And you know what? I'll also rule out all apples.

Just as a... It's not a royal gala. Literally delicious. Free clue there, is it? No apples. Yeah, that's my new clue. It's not any type of sticker of any apple. Okay, right.

Okay. Thanks anyway. All right, thanks, Sarah. Next on the show, am I a bad person? And you've done this, Megan. Yep. So I'd like to, well, actually, I don't care if I'm a bad person. I stand by it.

Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast. ZM. Am I a bad person? Today's one is interesting because it's from a female. She's messaging in about her boyfriend, but I would say a lot of females are in this position. So we need to work out now as a nation if she is a bad person or not, and we need your help for that now.

Her message reads, Hey, FM, I want to know if I'm a bad person for throwing out my boyfriend's yuck clothes. He's a great guy, but he's a huge, in capitals, slob. Yep. And he has heaps of clothes that are stained, ripped, or just super out of fashion. I make him go on an annual shopping trip, but he still insists on keeping the awful clothes.

I do most of the washing and am happy to do so, but I know that if the clothes are in his wardrobe, they'll stay on rotation and I think it makes him look pretty shabby. But he needs yard work clothes. Well, it doesn't sound like he's just using them for yard work. If some just happened

to not make it back after a wash, would that be the worst thing ever? I brought this up with some of the gals, and some were horrified, and the rest admitted they do it too, and they think it's totally fine. So, am I a bad person if I do it too? Has Shadi done this to you, do you think?

I don't know. Have you ever had her missing something, and you're just like, where's that gone? Yeah, but it's probably got a hole in it or whatever. So I'm just using it until it's unusable. But I grew up with a mother who did this and she still does it. Like if we go stay at mum and dad's for the weekend, take the kids down or whatever. Yeah.

And getting washed, mum will be like, you're not seeing these again. And she'll just chuck out like socks with holes in them or undies with holes in them. She's like, these are had it. These are past it. These are done it. And she'll announce it

and then throw them in the bin in front of you. Right. So I've grown up with it. So I wouldn't have a problem if there was a, but what, it just,

this guy's probably not going to notice until he sees an old photo of himself in the t-shirt or shirt and he's going to be like, what happened old photo of himself in the t-shirt or shirt and he's going to be like what happened to that shirt?

Nah. He just lost or like oh where did that go? Like fell to bits. Yeah. When we moved house or the washing machine chewed it up. Yeah.

But that's what I'd do. I'd just say oh look that thing with the hole in it got caught around the agitator and the washing machine and it ripped it right open so I've just huffed it. Yeah.

But I used to do this with my ex not with holy things. So it worked out well then you'd recommend that she does it. There's clothes that I really didn't like that just disappear. Because that's the big thing here. Here's a t-shirt or a pair of pants

or whatever that's perfectly good and they like them because they bought them and you were deciding without him knowing that you're getting rid of them. Well that's perfectly good and they like them because they bought them and you were deciding without him knowing that you're getting rid of them. Well that's different if they're still in good nick and you're just getting rid of it because you think fashionably it's not great. Because he had a lime green sweatshirt that I

hated and that just disappeared. But he noticed and was constantly like, where did my lime jersey go? Where did my lime jersey go? I'm like, I absolutely don't know where it went. Yeah, right. Just get rid of it. Got stolen off the washing line.

No one's believing that. Someone wanted to go incognito, so they stole your lime green sweatshirt. Sweatshirt. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Interesting, though. Yeah.

I mean, she's looking out for him. She wants him to, like, you know, put his best foot forward in public. Yeah, but she also got together with this guy. Yeah. And I can't imagine he was that stylish to start with. No, but, oh, Fletch. When females get together with guys, you see a good Reno, you know? Yeah, right.

Yeah. She's just trying to do the Reno. You see an episode of the block. Yeah. No, Worst House, Best Street. Worst House on the you know? Yeah, right. Yeah. She's just trying to do the Reno. You see an episode of The Block. Best house. Yeah. No, worst house, best street. Worst house on the best street. Yeah, right.

You don't want the best house on the worst street. No. Yeah, no. That's a bad investment. Yeah. Okay, so maybe you've been in this situation before. So am I a bad person? Just to recap.

This is from a girlfriend. She wants to know if she's a bad person for throwing out her boyfriend's yuck clothes. They're stained, ripped, or just super out of fashion. And he keeps on wearing them. And Megan, you've done this. Not to Mr. Toyboy, because he's very fash. But your first husband. Has Mr. Toyboy had

anything that you've questioned? Not a thing. Wow. He does it to me. He always says, is it about time that we maybe got rid of that? Stassi! Yeah, yeah. Wow.

Because I'm way more of a hoarder than he is. How does that feel? Remember when he got maybe get rid of all those shoes? He's like, is it maybe time we got rid of all those? I'm like, ouch. Or was that a space-ist you? No, some of them he's like,

some of them fashion. I'm like, ouch, bitch. Wow, ouch. Kayla, what do you think? Is she a bad person? No, I don't think she's a bad person at all. I have thrown out some stuff before, but I always talk to him about it first. Okay.

And how does he deal with that? How do you talk to him? Do you do it condescendingly or like his mum? I'm sort of like, he'll come out wearing it and I'm like, you still have that shirt? And then I find a photo of him wearing it, like, years and years ago. And, um. Your Honour, here's the evidence.

Absolutely, yeah. So, no, I talk to him about it first, but otherwise it's gone. Okay, do you have to take him shopping then? Sometimes. He has come back with that a few times. He's like, well, if I have to throw this shirt out then you have to take me shopping. So, yeah, he's basically a woman.

Brilliant. Hey, Kayla, thanks. You call Hannah. Is she a bad person? It depends on which aspect you're looking at, I reckon. Like, if they're stained, holy, definitely go for it. But if you're just doing it because of the fashion thing, then there's probably other things that you could focus on.

Like, I dress personally to, like, my body style and my lifestyle, so I'm not always that fashionable, but it works for me. And so he could be wearing what he's comfortable in and who is she to, you know, say say other that sounds like you're making excuses for wearing Crocs Hannah I would never Sorry. Oh, crap. No. I was just checking. Reena, is she a bad person? Yes or no? I think yes.

Just because if the roles were reversed and the shoe was on the other foot, how would she feel if he threw all her clothes out without her knowing? Yeah. Like, for me, I had an ex-boyfriend that didn't like my short shorts because they were too short, but he never threw them out. He just constantly made a statement. Constantly? What was he saying?

But what was his constant statements? They're too short. Do you know what? Now that I think about it, I have clothes that go missing. I have clothes that go missing all the time. Really? I would not be surprised if that's what's happening. Get him on the phone.

Bring Mr. Toyboy right now. Can he answer at the cafe? Just try. He might be busy. Our Instagram poll that asked if she's a bad person or not, 80% said not a bad person. 20% said a bad person. Well, that's

good. Somebody said this is very rude and controlling. How would you feel if he threw some of your clothes out? Well Megan's just learning that that's possibly happening Yeah that might be If the shoe was on the other foot I think we'd be pretty quick to call the partner controlling Yeah that's true

Somebody said I do this all the time My husband tries to squeeze into clothes that he bought in high school And he's 54 Jesus Christ I mean he's 54. Jesus Christ. I mean, that's, you know, thrifty, isn't it? I'll give him that. How are clothes even still around? If he can get into it, like, good on him.

How have his clothes not perished? Yeah. Very few materials. They don't make them like they used to. No. Probably made out of canvas. A hessian. You know, those are really durable, lovely materials. Now, I believe

Executive Intern Anya has Mr. Toyboy on the phone and I believe he is here. Mr. Toyboy, Andy P, good morning. Good morning. Now, I know you've been very busy at the cafe this morning. We are talking about people that throw out their partner's clothes without them knowing. And you

stand accused, Mr. Toyboy, of throwing out maybe the odd thing of Megan's. You know how you're always like, should we retire? Should we retire that top or that skirt? That laugh is admitting it. I'm not saying anything. Oh, he's pleading the fifth.

Mr. Toyboy, have you, yes or no, thrown out something without Megan knowing? Potentially. Potentially. Oh my God! The thing is though, the fact that you have to ask this question means that you don't,

you don't even know it happened. That's the thing. Yes. It happened! Such a bitch! How many times have you done this,

Mr. Toyboy? Oh, it's not even just clothes though. It's a couple of things already. It must have been probably 10 plus. Her face is, she's gobsmacked. Thank you. You are in so much trouble, young man.

She does so much shopping, she doesn't even know it's leaving the house because it's coming in as quick as it's leaving. Wow. You're in so much trouble. You're in trouble, mate. She'll be all right. She'll be all right.

You won't be, though. All right. Thank you, Mr. Toyboy. See ya. Wow. That was frosty. That was frost you, Mr. Toyboy. See ya. Wow, that was frosty. Someone said that was frosty, Megan. Megan's just jumped on online shopping. Yeah, I was like, well, you're going to throw my clothes out

and I'm going to get some more. I cannot wait to hear how tonight goes. You asked for it. Give us some feedback tomorrow. Okay, I will. You're going to want an itemized breakdown, aren't you? You're going to do a stock take. Like when you go to the supermarket and they're doing a stock take.

Yeah. And they're like, one, two, three, four, six bags of rice. Have you ever done a stock take? No. It's horrible. We did it as a fundraiser. When have you done a stock take? At high school when we were going on an overseas trip.

Yeah. The local supermarket was like, we need people to stock take. So they paid us to do it. And it's just like jelly crystals, blue. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Vaughan, you're like, halfway through the bloody blue jelly crystals.

What? What? What? Hey, it was really. Oh, how many blue jelly crystals were there? I can't remember. Now I've got interrupted. But yeah, you have to count each individual thing

and then you write it down. I'm imagining you do it on an iPad nowadays. Surely now it's all done, isn't it? Because of shoplifting. Yeah. Were you allowed to? That was what it was. of shoplifting. Yeah. Were you allowed to... That was what it was to... Were you allowed to like...

Because I'm imagining you did this when the supermarket was closed. Yeah. Were you allowed to little pick and mix? I think we were allowed to pick and mix.

You had to count... Well, just put your fingers in the pick and mix. Just put your fingers in the pick and mix. They're not going to know. No, well, that was one of the jobs

is you have to count how many yogurt-covered raisins are left in the strogan mix. They were like, Vaughan, wear gloves. I'm like, oh, God. I washed my hands after I went to the toilet. I had one yogurt-covered raisin. One for me.

Om, nom, nom, nom. There seems to be a significant lack of yogurt-covered raisins. There always is, though. That's definitely the champion of the Scroggins, right? That and their little chocolatey, nuggity bite. I don't eat the rest of it. You should probably just buy yogurt-covered raisins. Good call.

Good call. All right. Well, anyway, if we're fixated on yogurt-covered raisins, it must be time for... Fact of the day is domestic pigs. You know you often hear about if an animal's been domesticated, it wouldn't survive very well in the wild. Yeah. Cats are pretty resourceful.

But dogs, domesticated like pet dogs and stuff, become a bit useless. All right, Megan's dog. Imagine that in the wild. Oh, yeah, because he likes tuck-ins. Tuck-ins? Oh, being tucked in. Being tucked in at night. And he needs his lambie to sleep.

He'll be in a pack of roaming Labradors and boxes and German shepherds after humanity goes to another planet. We couldn't take our dogs with us. And Leo will be like, can you please tuck me in at night? Can I turn you into a dog gang? And they're like, well, what kind of dog are you? No, he's a Bajoran Griffin. I don't know. You've got the bulgy eyes.

I can keep watch if you want. They're like, okay, well, we'll take first shift. Okay, I'll have a seat then. Who's going to tuck me in? Who's got my lambie? That is how your dog would talk if it could talk. Beg your pardon? Who's going to tuck me in?

We don't do tuck-ins. Oh, can I snuggle up with one of you, please, and keep warm? What? Snuggle? I wouldn't even snuggle like it's cold, you see. The heat escapes out my bulgy eyes. You are such a bitch. You took it too far.

Look, I'm not going to think taking you on in our dog gang was a bad idea. Oh, I'm with Whammy. He would be the one that has compassion when they all have had a hard day. He'd come home and listen to them and give them snuggles. They'd get eaten. They'd be hungry and they're like the one that wants snuggles

or tolamis is to blow your eyes. I'd eat them. Wouldn't be much of a meal but they'd turn on pretty quick. Anyway, so dogs, cats, I mean they were out there killing native birds the whole time. They can feed themselves. But a lot of domesticated animals, do no good when released back into the wild. Pigs, a huge exception. Pigs can go feral super quick.

So even pet pigs, if they get into the wild, can go to feral pigs within their lifetime and then their offspring are fully feral pigs. There's wild pig populations that are entirely made up of the descendants of domesticated pigs that have got out of farms. Yeah, there's a case in Michigan in the US where a pig farm went bankrupt. So the guy just opened the gates and the pigs all ran out and now there's this wild population of full-blown feral pigs in Michigan. So they can break free of their domesticated chains

and just get fully... So the thing that makes them feral is they root around and they get aggressive and they go back to their feral ways. Whereas a lot of animals just are useless because we've spoiled them. Yeah. With treats and tuck-ins. Yeah.

Hello, guys. Guys, I just woke up from sweet. Where you gone? Guys? Oh, he's so cute. Oh, no. I'm on my own again. Oh, well, whammy.

Just me and you. And I imagine he flicks his lamby on his back and trots off. Yeah. Pathetic. So today's fact of the day is pigs can go back to being feral very, very smartly. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Tay-tay. Sorry. Now, was this an end of the world? No. Because what I liked is that when the Prime Minister was talking on Saturday afternoon, she said, you do not need to make a run at the supermarkets. Yeah.

And I think from going to the supermarket yesterday morning, it was fine. It was busy. Yeah. But it wasn't crazy. And supermarkets have come out and said, don't panic shop. We're stock. Just chill. We don't need to panic because they're not closing down.

No. But it's when you need something and everyone's taking it that the problems start. And that actually causes a lot. Because like people have said, I don't know if you've heard people saying this in the last few days, when people are panic shopping and then that's causing us all stress, you become then more susceptible to getting sick.

Stress, yes. Stress is bad. It's a bad time to be stressed. Yeah, it's a bad time to be stressed. So we need to help each other out by a bad time to be stressed. Yeah, it's a bad time to be stressed. So we need to help each other out by not going crazy at the supermarket. Yeah. For example.

And I heard that alcohol also lowers your immune system. Don't get drunk? Well, no, just make sure you do it at home. Right, okay. By yourself. When you're isolated. Yeah, right, okay. Yeah, it's finally like the healthy way to do it. Right. At home by yourself. I've been waiting for this to. Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah, it's finally like the healthy way to do it. Right.

At home by yourself. I've been waiting for this to come in, Vogue. What, drinking at home by yourself? Drinking at home by yourself. Yeah. And it's finally coming in Vogue. But we did a bigger than normal shop. So a semi-panic buy?

We're usually a supermarket three or four times a week family. Yeah, I'm the same. Whereas when I was growing up, we were a supermarket once, a fortnight family. So my mum always did a trolley, massive trolley load. That's a fortnight. Yeah. Because we survived on frozen vegetables,

so you don't need to get fresh vegetables when everything's frozen. You've got to think, Megan, they lived in the country. You can't just go down to the supermarket down the road. What about milk? You literally could. It was like nine kilometres drive. But to my parents at the time, it sounded like you had to hitch the horse

and wagon it together and take a three-day journey to get the supermarket back. It was such a horrible concept to them. But so we grew up in a family doing a full trolley trip every time. Yeah, right. So that was when, like yesterday,

it was just basically one of those. Yeah. Like a big full trolley trip. But my kids had never seen anything like it because we're usually a half trolley. Oh, yep, family. Yeah, I don't think I've ever filled up a trolley. But we filled up. Yeah, we filled up a trolley trip, but my kids had never seen anything like it. Because we're usually a half trolley. Oh, yep, family. Yeah, I don't think I've ever filled up a trolley. But we filled up, yeah, we filled up a trolley.

Were you getting some dirty looks? Sade would not, and this is going to be a problem, she would not let me get any palm corn beef. Good. I love. Why did you need palm corn beef? Well, it lasts forever. You put it in your little emergency kit.

Oh, my God, I love that stuff. Is that locked up in your supermarket? Do you have to go to a special counter to get it? No, it wasn't. Which is unusual because it's West Auckland. That's one of your prime areas for locking up your corned beef. But not locked up in the corned beef. Yeah, right.

But we do get a couple of little looks from people because we had a full trolley. What's the thing you bought the most of? Tinned peaches. Because Sade, well, we were getting some tinned food, but because we didn't have any and recently we had the freezer defrost. So we had stuff in there

that we needed to get some more. Some emergency loaves of bread and stuff to put in the freezer. But a year when Shade's like, oh, we should get some tinned fruit. I said, I shan't eat anything but tinned peaches. I love tinned peaches. Tinned fruit salad tastes yuck.

Do you know what's really good? And I haven't had these for ages. Mandarin segments in a tin. Mandarin oranges in a tin. Yeah. Because they're peeled. That's like Cinderella. There's a couple of brands.

But they're peeled. Every segment is peeled. Yeah's a couple of brands. But they're peeled. Every segment is peeled. Yeah, and they're real yum. And they just like dissolve in your mouth. Oh my God, I'm going to buy a tin today. Treat yourself. But they're also stored in a very sugary syrup. Oh yeah, you drink that afterwards.

Yes. It's like a mandarin juice. This is a lost art. Kids these days know about drinking the juice out of the tin. Now, you want to be careful where you use the can, because you could cut your lip. Maybe pour it into another vessel. Yeah, right.

But, man, when you were a kid, there was nothing sweeter than getting that last slither of peach out of there and be like, it's on, baby, and you drink the juice. Are we going to come out of isolation all just a little bit troublier? I think so, yeah. 100%. We're not going to be able To go to the gyms then People are already saying

Gyms are quite dirty But you know People are saying If you're in self-isolation 15 to 20 minutes exercise Where are you doing that? Last time you were sitting at home And you're like

I might just do 15 minutes exercise Not happening is it? ZM's Fletch Warner Megan The podcast Great news If you've got a big old melon You've got a big head

Especially if you were born with a big head Well that's you Because you never find hats that fit Do you? Were you born with a big head Or did you grow it? No I always had a pretty big head But didn't they stretch it big

When they pulled you out? When they pulling you out With those calipers The forceps The forceps Excuse me No We've talked about this before.

I was a pleasure to give birth to. Oh, okay. Right. I went. Were you? Excuse me? I was Christine about that. No, you ask her.

She says it. You were a pleasure. Why not a pleasure? But I was the easiest of the three. Yeah, yeah. I was just like, excuse me, I'll just move it here. One foot. Oh, no, you don't go foot first.

You go head first. Just, yep, an absolute pleasure. And then you've been a shitbag ever since. Yeah, pretty much. So a UK study has shown that you're likely to have higher intelligence. Higher intelligence is strongly linked to a head circumference bigger than the average. Does that just mean bigger brain, bigger smarts? More room for the brain to grow?

I don't know. But they did studies over 100,000 Brits and the intelligence that they measured were their verbal and numerical reasoning, reaction time, memory and educational attainment. See, jokes on us. We all laughed at the luge when he couldn't get a helmet to fit.

I'm the opposite. And he's smarter than all of us. My member in the luge, I couldn't get it tight enough. Yeah, you got a little wee. It was like flopping around on my head. A little wee tiny melon. A little wee tiny head. How big is your head all around?

I don't know. Because I was, my children have both got fairly sizable heads as well. I've got like a straw hat. You've got a what? A straw hat. You've got a straw hat? Yeah. What's a straw hat for?

Like if I... Oh, for going out in summer. For going out in summer. Right. If I went to a nice barbecue or something. But it doesn't actually sit very well on my head. It comes right down over my eyebrows. Flops, yeah.

You go over a bump on your horse and carriage with your rubbish hat on, and it falls down over your eyes. Yeah. So does that mean I'm dumb? Not as smart as you? Yeah. Well, evidence is certainly'm dumb? Not as smart as you? Yeah. Well, evidence is certainly pointing that way. Sure is.

Right. I've definitely taught you a thing or two. So does that mean we're getting bigger heads? Humans? As humans. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. Moving towards the bigger heads.

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