ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan’s Podcast - 30th June 2021

Episode Date: June 29, 2021

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Play! The Men's Fleece Warner Megan Hello and welcome to the Fleece Warner Megan podcast. It's thanks to McCafe by 5 McCafe Coffees and get one free on the Maccas app. I've received a parcel, if this is what I think of this. This is from AliExpress. Oh, I noticed the AliExpress label. From the Changi Air Freight Centre in Singapore.

Oh, okay. Yay, yay, yay. Look what this is. Is it the taco holder? No, I never went for the taco holder. Oh, that Yay, yay, yay Look what this is Is it the taco holder? No, I never went for the taco holder Oh, that's been smashed Oh, this has been fucking smashed Oh, Vaughn

You were going to get Peter This is a rat Protesting This is Oh, Vaughn This goes on the top of a bucket Is that broken? No, it slips back

It slips in Oh it's a delicate balancing operation. Are you kidding me that the trap door for this mousetrap is the head of a mouse? The irony is they slide to their death. So you put this on top of a bucket and you smear peanut butter and smash seeds into it in there

and the rat's like, oh damn, and he steps on this bit and he's like, oh yep, stable ground. Walks in, woo, into the bucket. And the lid shuts behind him. It's a little hydroslide turbo hour into their death. Oh, no. So he lands in there, Megan, and he lands on some hay that I've put in there for him. He goes to heaven.

No, no, he doesn't go to heaven until he dies a happy old rat after spending a lot of time at the Vaughan Smith Rat Retirement Village. Yeah. Because I love them. That's not humane. I just don't want them eating my stuff. Vaughan, that's not. It is humane. It's not. It is humane. Because I love them. That's not humane. I just don't want them eating my stuff. Vaughn, that's not. It is humane. It's not.

It is humane. The death is instant. No, it's not. No, because you boil the water. Yeah, they fall into lava. Megan, this goes on the lava. I'm joking. I'm joking.

No, it's not. You don't have to put water in the bucket. You just catch them in the bucket. Okay. And then you just take the lid off the bucket and start stomping in the bucket. Okay. And that's how you make wine. Mouse wine.

Rat wine. Mouse. This thing's had a fucking hiding in the post. Look how bent it is. It needs a straightening. You know what's coming in the group chat when Vaughn catches mouse mice. Picture of a mouse and it's trapped in the bucket. Thought it was going to get some cheese.

Anyway, that's fun. I'm gonna catch some rats. Yeah, well, you've outed yourself to Peter now. They'll be protesting on the farm left. I'm sorry. I'm trying to protect the kereru, the fantau, the tui. I'm not saying you need to take them to a retreat, but I just want to kill them humanely.

Yeah, I will. Okay, good. I'll stomp them. Oh, God. On the head, not on the body. They won't sustain vital damage to their organs. They'll be crushed and die immediately. Let's not forget that they started- But look at this cute little ladder they get to take up the side of the bucket. They're like,

Smash! It's not their fault they're a pest. Well, you know what, actually? You know what, Vaughn? You should bring the bucket over to Megan's house so she can humanely deal with them. I will.

Do you know, there is actually a humane way of doing it and this doesn't sound humane but I've looked up humane ways to kill rats because I do, I don't think any animal should suffer.

You were joking. They didn't ask to be brought here, did they? They just came here and then they flourished much like white people. We're pests too. Who have been considered a pest as well But no one's invented a bucket trap to catch us

But shit, I'm very wary every time I see free food I'm going to go to grab it and I'm going to fall into a bucket I went up a ladder the other day because there were chips And I stopped myself This is a trap Don't go up there Good, I'm glad you Caught me onto that

But it's so you know Smells that you get excited You put the car Exhaust pipe in there Really And leave the car running And it's a humane way To do it because

They just chill in their rats And then they just fall asleep Oh my god It doesn't sound it But it's painless That does not sound humane God I love Living in an apartment

There's no way To have this carry on. There's no way to humanely end something else's life, but I like the birds better than I like the rats. But they are a plague in a pest, aren't they? They eat our native birds, so... And my macadamia nuts. Fucking one percent.

I've got macadamia nuts. I've got a problem with my nuts. Did I bring my macadamia nuts I've got a problem with my nuts Did I bring my macadamia nuts crumbling last time I made some? No you did not You simply must You are just going to be a couple of fucking Well see Megan if he doesn't do this we're not getting any crumble It's very brittle actually

It's butter, honey and macadamia nuts Oh shit Give me some of those It's real good I'll definitely eat your nuts If it's got honey on it I'll eat them too Put them up a ladder

I'll be straight up there And into the white person bucket Thanks Rachel Good morning Welcome to the show Fletch Vaughan and Megan She's back Good morning

Morning Were you who you say that to? Me or people listening? Well she Good morning, welcome to the show, Fleetspawn and Megan. She's back. Good morning. Morning. Who are you saying that to, me or people listening? Well, she. She's back. No, no. When Megan said good morning, I wonder if that was to ask or to people listening. Or to everyone who can hear my voice. Or to the feminine polar blast, which is back.

Is that feminine? Why is it a feminine polar blast? Well, I don't know. I could have just been saying she's back. Oh, the... Cold blast. Right. Cold blast, yeah. She's back. Is that feminine? Why is it a feminine polar bear? Well, I don't know. I could have just been saying she's back. Oh, the... Cold blast. Right. Cold blast, yeah.

She's back. Oh, sure, it's cold. Yeah, she's back. From the southern seas. Let me get up my temps. I know, you love this. My car said two on the way in. Yeah, my weather station said 2.7 feels like three.

I was like, how about you? Actually, you know what? It's not as bad in the... It's not as cold in the South Island this morning. The coldest place is though, Twizzle. It's minus 3.9 in Twizzle. Wellington's on nine. Nelson's on one.

New Plymouth, two. It snowed in Stratty yesterday in Stratford. Did it? That's madness. I love how every area's got its place and when it snows there, like that's an indication that it's very cold. There was snow on the Kaimai Ranges yesterday, apparently, as well, for the Waikato Bay.

Plenty of people listening. Hamilton is minus one at the moment. Three degrees currently in Auckland. Kaitaia is two degrees at the moment. That's how cold it is up north. Whangarei, three. Tauranga, three at the moment. Yep.

I've got two degrees. We're down to two degrees on the weather station moment. Yep. I've got two degrees. We're down to two degrees on the weather station. At home. I love monitoring a weather station. She's chilly. Coming up on the show, 7 o'clock, all thanks to Marvel Studios' Black Widow, The Box. A big, huge clue yesterday.

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$20,000 is yours if you can figure out what that four-digit pin is and that four-letter word. We'll give you the chance at 7 o'clock to get through and 8 o'clock this morning, another chance at midday with Georgia and Bree and Clint this afternoon at 4 and 5. The top six coming up. Yeah, South Africa are allowing women to have multiple

husbands. There's a proposition because I did not know already legal in South Africa for a man to have multiple wives. Did you know this? Married to a South African. Do you know what you're marrying into? He's probably ironing. How many other wives does he have?

Well, he lives under New Zealand law, so I'm just one. Oh, shit. And he lives under your law, by the sounds of things. That was very... Yeah, but he had to pump back to South Africa and picked up another wife. Not that I'm aware of. Well, he'd be allowed to, wouldn't he? Or would he?

Because he's married here. I don't know. Maybe both of the marriages would have had to have happened in South Africa. Yeah. Huh. Huh, take that. Husband who was thinking about it. He doesn to have happened in South Africa. Yeah. Ha. Ha, take that. Husband who was thinking about it. He doesn't have time for another one.

Yeah, this one's a bit much, to be honest. That's not what I was meaning. I think that's pretty much what it all... That's pretty much what everybody took from it, though, Megan. Yeah. He's got no time for anything else. All right, the top six is coming up. Next on the show...

What does your favourite sandwich filling say about you? ZDM's Fletchborn and Megan. Happy level one for Wellington. Thank you for your service. Yes. Thank you for your service. Although there is a state of emergency, a state of local emergency still in place,

and Wellingtonians are urged to stay away from coastal areas. Nine o'clock this morning, they reckon that should start subsiding. That guy, did you see that? People that got rescued in their kayak? Yeah. I was like, no, we were right. It's like nine and a half minutes to Wales.

I don't think he would just casually out there for a paddle. Yeah. In the UK, they eat 11.5 billion sandwiches during their lifetime. I was going to say, yeah, that would be insane. Oh, no, they eat 18,000 in their lifetime. So that's per person. I was going to say 11 billion sandwiches per lifetime.

I'm like, whose lifetime? Everybody's collective lifetime. How many again per lifetime? 18,304 sandwiches. 18,304. So divided by, what would I divide that by? Years? Average life. What's the average life?

Hold on. Average British life expectancy is 81 years. Okay, but when do you start eating sandwiches? Pretty young. You can have a sandwich pretty young. Yeah, you can have a sandwich pretty young. Okay, so when do you start eating sandwiches? Pretty young. You can have a sandwich pretty young. Yeah, you can have a sandwich pretty young. Okay, so should I just divide by 80?

Shall I divide by 80 then? Yeah. Okay, divided by 80. That equals 228 sandwiches.8 a year. Right. That's almost one a day. Nearly one a day apart from the weekends. From when you turn one.

Isn't that insane? Yeah. That's just a staple for lunch. Well, I've got what your favourite sandwich says about you, but I do only have six sandwiches here. Okay. So you're going to have to... And I guess bear in mind that's British as well.

Yeah. Because there won't be a Marmite sandwich, will there? There isn't a Marmite sandwich. There's a plain cheese sandwich. Would you go for a plain cheese sandwich? I'd have ham in there. Unless it was a toasty. A plain cheese toasty. Would you? I would.

Get some other stuff in a cheese toasty. With sweet chilli sauce. That's the thing, you're letting a lot. Oh my god, I just remembered that the global pandemic made me purchase a supermarket toasty sandwich maker. Yeah, toaster sandwich maker.

A press or a sealy one? An actual sealy one that makes triangles. Oh, and I haven't used it since the global pandemic. Yum. Might break it out this weekend. Sealed ones are the best. They're the best. And the cheese is like molten hot.

You know, that's dangerous. Yeah. You don't put tomatoes on those ones because that's dangerous. Yeah. So what does a plain cheese those ones because that's dangerous. Yeah. So what does a plain cheese sandwich say about you? If it's your favourite sandwich, it says some people might call you dumb, but you're actually stable and reliable. You don't like fussy people, things or design.

Wait, so this is horoscopes with sandwiches. It sounds like it. You are content with life's simple things. Or have they actually delved into the average personality of these eaters? Or are they just making this up, do you think? I'd like to think they've delved into the... Yeah, okay. We hope.

A cucumber sandwich. I love a cucumber sandwich. I'm a big fan of a cucumber. Cucumber always makes you do burps. Cook burps. Because it's a lot of water. I don't know what it is. Yes, I don't eat it.

Because I always burp it. Right. Right. So if cucumber sandwiches is your thing, you are gentle and reflective but people mistake you for being weak. They think they can push you around but you have a surprising tenacity when required. That's why I don't eat them. Why? I'm too strong to eat cucumbers.

You're not gentle and reflective. I'm not gentle and reflective. No, not at all. Egg and salad cream So this is like An egg and mayo sandwich Oh yum Is this a punny little thing But it's not my favourite

It's not your fave You are fully in touch With your inner child Memories of children's parties When you first tasted These sandwiches Filled you with joy You're feeling

When you're feeling A bit naughty You might add some Salad to it Oh my gosh How outlandish of you To add green leaf to eggy sandwich. Would this be you, a BLT?

Bacon, lettuce, tomato. Although there's also a roast beef sandwich and an avocado sandwich to come. Probably more of a roast beef sandwich. Okay. Because the problem with the bacon, lettuce, tomatoes, I feel like bacon is a supplementary meat. Yeah. I'd rather have a ham. Yeah, you have like bacon is a supplementary meat. Yeah. I'd rather have a ham.

You have like a hamburger, so like a ground beef patty with bacon. It feels like bacon's an additional one. It still feels like there's not a main meat in that sandwich. Maybe get a chicken involved. So if you like a BLT, you have a great sense of humour apparently.

And you want to appear healthy, but the addition of bacon means you want to have some fun too. Roast beef and mustard. Are we going to squeeze you into this category? This would be yum. Yeah, I'd be on board with this. Everyone knows you walked into a room. You're a strong character that squeezes the most out of life. Yeah, boom.

There's going to be roast beef. And avocado sandwiches. Apparently you are exotic. I'm really upset that I'm just a strawberry jam sandwich. A strawberry jam and cheese. What? Yeah, jam and cheese.

No. What are you doing? Trust me, I have a jam and cheese sandwich. And it works with all sorts of cheese. Like grated cheese, plastic sliced cheese. Yeah, tasty plastic slices. Or like the big block of cheese where you've got the cheese slicer and you slice off a couple of thick ones.

What about if you got some fancy cheese? I think it would work as well. Right. You'd probably then want fancier bread. You'd probably want a sourdough bread and a fancier jam. Maybe a... Who are those? Anathoth.

Oh, yeah. They do have those in the crackers section. They have that. It's not jam, but what do they call it? Like a quince paste. Yeah, qu. They do have those in the crackers section. They have that. It's not jam, but what do they call it? Like a quince paste. Yeah, quince paste. That's basically a jam, right? Yeah.

A puff jam. It's like a budget version of quince paste and like a smoky cheddar. Yeah, right. Okay. Eat them in raspberry jam on bread. Honey, try it. I'm not lying. It's pretty good.

Well, it was a childhood favourite. Yeah, right. The thicker the cheese, the better. Play Z not lying. It's pretty good. Well, it was a childhood favourite. Yeah, right. The thicker the cheese, the better. Play ZM's Flesh, Fawn and Megan. Well, a study's been done in Germany and it has looked at what tends to lead to happier, longer relationships. Okay.

Now, you've both been in long relationships. The study has found that being a power couple may be the secret to a lot of happy people. What's a power couple? Yeah, what's that defined as? So it just means that you both need a certain sense of power over your relationship. So would that not create a power struggle, or would there be different areas of which the person would be their power?

So it says the study authors say that power is about being able to influence others and the ability to keep others from influencing you in relationships between men and women. The study finds each partner in the happiest pairs both feel they have a measure of power.

So that kind of sounds like stubbornness. Like you don't let other people influence you, so you don't let your partner, like when they're telling you to do something, you're like, no. So in romantic relationships, the feeling of being able to make decisions in a marriage,

for example, has a big influence in the quality of the relationship. So just both of you being able to make big decisions. Yeah. Yeah. Do you make big decisions in your house? No, you don't. You just go, you just roll with it. No, sir. No being able to make big decisions. Do you make big decisions in your house? No, you don't. No, sir. I don't make big decisions in any aspect

of my life. You do it here. Shade doesn't at home. You just do what you're told. There's two reasons I'm submissive. I'll roll right over and show you my soft belly. There's two reasons. There's often a lot of thought and stress involved in decision making.

And later on, if it goes badly, I can say, I told you so. And that's one of the sweetest gifts that you can be given. Somebody else really being keen for something and when it goes wrong and blows up in their face, hitting them with a little I told you so. And you'd be quite similar because Mr. Toyboy's alpha at home, isn't he? You do what you're told. Well, yeah. Yeah. How can I argue this? No.

Yeah, pretty much. He's pretty alpha in most aspects. And then sometimes you have to tell him off if he gets something wrong about the 90s. Yeah. Don't you? And I'm a better speller and that's about it. Yeah. Spelling about the 90s. Yeah. Don't you? And I'm a better speller and that's about it. Yeah. Spelling in the 90s.

Megan's power. Megan's power area of the relationship. Something flew up my nose. Oh, my God. The ever consummate Professional broadcaster There was a definitive Like it wasn't like I was breathing in

At the time Maybe I was You know sometimes You don't know when you breathe Sometimes you'll hear a noise And you'll be like What's that noise And you keep listening for it

And you're like Oh it's me breathing You ever get that No You'll hear a noise And I'll be like I know that happens At my apartment

But it's a cat Because you can hear him breathe He's like He's like a pug or something yeah like a French bulldog maybe I didn't know I was breathing and something shot up my nose

but something definitely went up my nose anyway I love how anytime McDonald's is just like let's bang three random things in a McFlurry machine

people lose their minds oh yeah and this has happened in Australia it has as Maccas although they might be stuck at home

I mean they still do deliveries though in Aussie lockdown. Yeah, but you can't get this delivered. And does a McFlurry travel well? Nah. I'm not a McFlurry eater, so I wouldn't know. Is it the sort of thing you could get and then drive home, eat when you get home

and then have the McFlurry afterwards? It'd be milky. Yeah. It's kind of an eat on the spot situation with the McFlurry, right? Well, the Fairy Bread McFlurry is the latest. Does it have butter? Because that's an essential part. Yes, Megan, they're whipping butter and putting butter on top of ice cream. It's making like a bread and butter pudding, right?

When it melts. Yeah. It's more cake a bread and butter pudding, right? When it melts. Yeah. But then it'd be cut. It's more cakey. Right. It looks more cakey than it does plain white bready. Right. So like a sponge cake.

Oh, that would actually be really yum. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like hundreds and thousands sprinkles. It almost looks doughnutty. There's a picture of it. It looks like French toasty doughnutty, like cooked, not bread. Oh, man. Fairy bread traditionally is cheap-ass white bread, right?

Like cheap-ass white. Like it does not matter. Like dollar loaf. Crusts cut off. Yeah. Did they? You put the butter on before you cut the crusts off? I can't imagine the crust would add a sort of a level of.

No, I always butter it after. But I see what you're saying. But the crust would hold the bread together better during the buttering. Anyway, the crust come off, there's butter on there, and then you just smush the butter side down into a plate load of hundreds and thousands.

Now, the bread is dry and plain, but it's not about that. It's about the butter, and it's about the hundred thousands. But this looks more like a donut-y, like the bread itself is playing. Yeah, right. The bread-y aspect is playing a big role.

Now, we should point out again, as we mentioned previously, this is in Australia. Yes. But it always starts there and ends up here, doesn't it? Uh-huh. So I'd expect this to come here. Yeah. Although there is currently a polar blast over the country. I don't know how excited people are for McFlurries or ice creams

In your car with the aircon on Make it hot They've apparently labelled it the birthday McFlurry And people are confused as to why it's been called the birthday McFlurry Because it's not a birthday cake But when you make birthday cake Like flavour things It's always just with hundreds of thousands.

Hundreds of thousands. Yeah. That is the essence of a birthday flavour. All right, well, it's pumped up in Australia, the birthday cake McFlurry. But a caramel sauce involved too, apparently. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So keep your eyes peeled for that here.

Sure it'll happen at some stage. ZDM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. A American athlete. She took part in Olympic trials while 18 weeks pregnant. When? Just recently? It's insane.

Isn't it insane that you're hearing stories every couple of days, so-and-so's qualified for the Olympics. You're like, the Olympics are in 23 days. Yeah. 23 days. Okay, so she's 31 and she had a noticeable bump,

so she's 18 weeks pregnant. Me too. I'm 39, I've got a noticeable bump. I failed to qualify for the Olympics again. Try as I might. She competed in American trials for the Olympics again. Try as I might. She competed in American trials for the heptathlon. So 100 metre hurdles, high jump, shot put, 200 metres.

And hepatitis B. Long jump, javelin and 800 metres. Now, she pulled out at various points because they had a heat wave going on. So, like, she's at the same time, I can imagine lots of people are going to be like, what about your baby? People love to get involved. But yeah, she pulled out because it got quite hot. Right.

But she still went and competed and she had a bad, she spent 12 weeks vomiting as well. So she's only just gotten over that. But had she qualified, I'm emotional. Had she qualified, would she have gone? Yeah, I don't know. So how many weeks? Three weeks.

20 something of July is when it kicks off. The 23rd of July is the day that the Olympics kicks off. 21 weeks pregnant she'd be. 23 days. So she wouldn't have been able to go. So what was she bothering? Just to say she qualified for the Olympics. Why would she not have been able to go?

If she qualified. The only thing is... No, no, no. I'm not saying she wouldn't have been able to go. Would she have gone? Well, I believe so. 18 weeks pregnant. She would have been 21.

Travelling. And then running. 18 weeks pregnant. She would have been 21. Travelling. And then running with 21 weeks belly. Because the thing is, like, she can qualify now, but is she going to be able to keep up the same level? Well, that's what we're saying. Would she go? That's what we're saying. Why would she even bother?

Because you can qualify, right, but your Olympic committee can still say, we don't want you to represent us. Is that right? I don't know. I've never been qualified, so we don't want you to represent us is that right well i don't know i've never been qualified so i don't know that this is what cost me my qualification they were like we do not want you representing us because i took the new zealand olympic uniform and i cut it into a crop top yep and they and you cut the sleeves off it and they were like no it's a polo shirt and i said well i don't baby don't wear polos. And so I turned it into some sort of like singlet.

You're like Megan whenever they bring out a T-shirt for an event. She's like, I don't do T-shirts. And you have to tie it up or cut it. Give it a cut. Cut the sleeves off. Get a little creative on it. Just as I Googled the news for the Olympics, it's only 20-odd days away,

a 17-year-old US runner has qualified, beating, who's that fast guy? Usain Bolt. Usain Bolt. Yes. But is he even in it? I don't know. He's 17, and he will make history as the youngest ever runner to qualify.

Wow. Since 1964. And he beat Usain Bolt's time, I think, yeah. Wow, he's got a career ahead of him. 17. Did you see Usain Bolt recently had twins? Yeah. Without a word of a lie.

The twins' names, Thunderbolt. I did see this. Lightning's already by the way. Lightning Bolt is his daughter. Lightning's his older daughter. What's her middle name? Lightning something Bolt. Oh, I don't know.

Thunderbolt, Lightning Bolt, Thunderbolt, and St. Leo Bolt. St. Bolt. St. Bolt. And then. Great names. I don't know Thunderbolt Lightning Bolt Thunderbolt and Saint Leo Bolt Saint Bolt Saint Bolt and then great names their dog Knudsen no you made that up

yeah no I made it up oh my god that would be the greatest name for his dog Knudsen because you just hear it by itself you're like that's weird

but then you're like Knudsen Bolt from the exotic ZM think tank this is the top six. Hello there. South Africa is proposing a right to equality as South Africa debates where the woman can have multiple husbands as men can have multiple wives. How old school is that?

I know. And uproar. There's been uproar. Outcry. Yeah. All those sorts of things. The outcry is from conservatives though, isn't it? Yeah. And

I mean, why not have some equality? It's still weird though to have like... But then that's weird. Yeah, the conservatives are like, they can't do that. That's against the sanctity of marriage, which is between a man and up to five women. Yeah, it's bizarre. I mean, all power to people that want to have a, what do you call it? A malkogony.

Polyandry. Polyandry. Yeah, that's. But is that when you have multiple wives or is that a relationship with multiple people? Because some people have legally bound marriages. Right. But they all cohabitate or do they just live in separate houses? I don't know.

Because that would be different, right, than like a polyamorous relationship, right? Yeah. So South Africa apparently has a very liberal constitution, same-sex marriage for all. Yep. Polygamy for men-sex marriage for all. Yep. Polygamy for men, but not for women. Okay. Apparently. So it says destroy African culture.

What about the children of those people? How will they know their identity, says a South African reality TV presenter. But how is that different if they've allowed it for men? Exactly. Exactly. It's not. It's not. It's not.

He just doesn't want to have to compete. So I've got the top six problems with multiple partners that I can see from the outset. Number six. Yeah. How do you know who to be angry at when the bins aren't taken out? Is the answer still you? Yeah.

Well, in my case it is. Yeah. In fact, okay, this might also be a positive. Yeah. Now you have a chore wheel on the fridge. Yeah, you actually would have to have a chore wheel. Would it be like flatting again, wouldn't it? Oh, my God.

Horrible. Top six problems with multiple partners that I can see from the outset. Number five, how do you know who to be angry at when the chicken hasn't been taken out of the freezer to be defrosted? Oh, yeah. Oh, number four on the list of the top six problems with multiple partners I can see from the outset. How do you know who to be angry at when there's a towel left on the floor? Why are you always angry?

You've got to be angry at someone when there's a towel left on the floor. Are these all the things that you get told off about? Actually, you know, most of these can also be related to people who have children who have been asked to do something. Yeah. Because that's the thing. You always buy towels in a set, right? Yeah.

So the towels all look the same. So the children just stand and look at the towels. And I'm imagining husbands and wives would be the same. They look at the towels and they say, that's not my towel. Yeah, right. And then I say, it's got to be somebody's towel. And they said, I hung my towel up. And that's the problem with having a set of towels.

Make them all different colors. Yeah, make them all different colors. Have names on them. Yeah, I remember when your mum tells you to get the chicken out of the freezer and you forget and then she drives

up the driveway and you're like, ah! There's something about the car coming up the driveway that reminded you of everything

you forgot to do. Oh my God, the chicken. I know, I haven't peeled the potatoes for dinner. Oh, yeah. That chicken

is not going to defrost right if I put it in the microwave. She's going to know. She'll know. They always know. Number three on the list of the top six problems with multiple partners that I can see from the outset.

How do you know who to be angry at when there's skids left in the toilet? Yeah. Oh, just all of them. Sit them all down. Sit them all down and give them a lesson on scrubbing the toilet and they're like, wasn't me, wasn't me. Number two on the list of the top six problems with multiple partners I can see from the outset.

How do you know who to be angry at about putting an empty bottle of milk back into the fridge? What a monster. Who does that? Everybody that doesn't want to have to be responsible for taking it to the recycling bin. Yeah. And number one on the list of the top six problems with multiple partners I can see from the outset. How do you know who to be angry at for not making the bed? I mean, it's the last one out.

Yeah. The bed always makes the bed. And that is the one advantage of being a breakfast radio host. You never make the bed. And then it's the last one out of the bed always makes the bed. And that is the one advantage of being a breakfast radio host. You never make the bed. Even on the weekend, your body clock wakes you up at 6 o'clock and you're like, well, I've got to get out of bed because I'm not making this damn thing. That is today's top six.

I am the box. But a big clue yesterday. You can go to our Instagram, FEMZM, to see the picture clue for the box. It's just some eyes. It's up close. It's like a mailbox slot view of some eyes and eyebrows. Male or female eyes, do you reckon? Oh, I thought male.

Maybe that's why the eyes were chosen. But they were looking to one side too, right? Yes, I don't know what the clue is. Is it that the eyes are looking that way? And this visual clue can be seen at the Fletch Von Amigin Instagram page, FEMZN. Oh, yeah, see, that could be a male, couldn't it? Oh, you know who that looks like? I recognise that.

I do from this distance too. Let's check if it's the same person. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And are they in Black Widow? No. Oh, okay.

So male or female? Male. Male, okay. All right, well, you can see that clue, F-E-M-Z-M. Maybe that helps. We know that the four-letter word that the four-digit pin spells is in the trailer for Marvel Studios' Black Widow.

$20,000 is inside the box. You've just got to get that four-digit pin right, and that cash is yours. Good morning, Danielle. Morning, guys. Now, you've seen this picture, Clue. What are you thinking? Well, looking at it figuratively,

it looks like it's looking behind, so past. I know that we've had past in the previous clues, but from clue number four, all the numbers replaced letters. So that's what we've got. Okay. Okay. So we've got 9457, and that spells past in numbers. Past. Past.

Yeah. A 9 is more of a Q than a P. Yeah, but would you replace it as 1, or would you, you know, closely to a P than 1? Okay. Okay, so looking past. So you're saying that because the visual clue, they're looking past.

Yeah, well, they're looking behind, which is, you know. Which is the past. Yeah, okay. You didn't think about keeping the P as a seven because that's the number that it would represent on the keypad and then going the rest with the AST number swap outs? No. This is, people are going deep into this.

I love it. Okay, well, we're going to try. Nine, four, five, seven. Yeah, nine, four, five. Okay, here we go. Nine, four, five, seven. No.

Not really. Oh, Danielle, unfortunately No. No. Who knows? Not really. Oh, Danielle, unfortunately, no. You do not win $20,000 cash, but we do have a double pass to Marvel Studios. Blake Widow, it is in cinemas July 8th and streaming on Disney Plus with Premier Access July 9th. Conditions apply. ZDM's Fletch, Ron and Megan.

A father who is also a doctor Had to sell a family car This is in Wales After his son ticked up 1300 pounds In the Apple iStore Playing a Dreamworks Dragons game So I'm imagining this is related to How to Train Your Dragon

That's a phenomenal movie series That's like about 2, a half thousand New Zealand dollars. Yeah. What a game. He'd been playing the game for an hour. He was unaware the game offered unlimited in-app purchases of up to 99 pounds. So he'd just been purchasing these things. I don't know if the kid knew the password.

Did he try for a refund? I don't know. Obviously not if he's selling the car. I don't know. Obviously not if he's selling the car. I don't know. But yeah, he said. Wouldn't give it to him. Because he had to sell the car to cover it because it was connected to his credit card. And he said the interest that would have accrued would have made it far harder to pay off.

He did get our refund. He got a £200 refund. Is that all? Of the whole thing. Man, I would have got an absolute hiding for that. Oh my God, I would have got my ass booted. Like, a proper boot. How old was this kid?

Old enough to know or just too young to know? Seven. I think... Your seven year old... I've got a seven year old. She'd know... She was purchasing? That it says dollar signs and stuff.

She'd know. She'd know, right. She'd know. She'd know, right. She'd know that it would cost, I think. But the family car, do they already have a car? Do they have two cars? It's the Toyota Ago, which looks like a Vitz. Okay. A Vitz of sorts.

It's their second car. Okay, right. So it's the runaround car. They've still got a car. But that doesn't make a good headline. What are you talking about? The headline's got to say, Father slash doctor sells family car to cover son's gaming addiction. That'll get the people going.

That'll get their headlines popping. But yeah, I would have absolutely got booted. I'm glad there was no in-app purchases. Oh, you would have 100% ticked up how as an adult how much do you tick up on Fortnite

not much seriously not much like every now and then yeah right a little treat a little treat if I'm playing on Friday night

with the boys and I had a few drinks I threw a drink I said I threw a new skin you know what I'm saying how much is a new skin I don't know what they go. They vary, right? Like the licensed ones, like if you want to

buy one that's also like a Marvel character or DC property. You bought Cuddle Team Leader though, didn't you? I did buy Cuddle Team Leader. No, I wasn't Cuddle Team Leader. That's the pink one. I got Panda, the Panda of that. I wore that skin again when I was playing Fortnite of the Week and it felt good to get into that old

It's like finding an old t-shirt that you bought. I might put this back on I still like it. Producer Jared, you spend a lot on Fortnite. How much do you reckon? I don't even want to begin to do the math I like when you're playing with Jared, you'll be in the lobby, which is where you like

team up and you get ready and all of a sudden he'll pop out a new like dance or something or a new costume and you'll be like Jaredared it's very nice did you buy that he's like i just treat myself yeah um as the best player on the team i feel like i need to lead the way with the cosmetics right okay yeah how about you're dodging the question how much money are you spending oh i don't know. Like maybe $40 maybe a week or so. I don't know. Oh, my God, Jerry.

But not consistently. Sometimes it might be less, but sometimes it might be more. Are you kidding me? I've got a problem. You do have a problem. What are you all gascelling about? How much would you spend a week on takeaway coffee? He doesn't never get to take away coffee. Yeah, but that's a

tangible good. No, it's not. You drink it and then you piddle it out. Sometimes you poop it out. Jared's drinking Red Bull. What about Jared's Red Bulls? I got given these Red Bulls for free. He got a pallet of Red Bulls recently so he's like, he's in the green on the Red Bulls at the moment.

Yeah, wow, okay. Oh my god. Wild amounts of money. But like you say, for something that's not tangible. Yeah, and it can sneak up on you too. I remember, do you remember was it Candy Crush or Bejeweled Blitz? Which one really got the mums? Candy Crush, I think. I always see

mums playing Candy Crush still on the planes. I'm like, that is so nostalgic I hope they're still not spending money on it but I know there was people like that was the real one that got into the

mumosphere of mums thinking it was bloody stupid to spend money on silly video games and then they were like well I just want 8 more turns

and my energy bar hasn't refilled so I'll just pay the $6 it's fine it's only $6 but it adds up it's only $6, but it adds up. It's only $6.

Yeah, it does. And do that a few times a day. But we'd like to know, and you can estimate as well, or maybe you want to dob in your partner on their in-app purchases. Yeah, see if we can beat Producer Jared's $40 a week. There will definitely be people who do this. But there's lots of people where this is their main hobby. People would spend that driving to sports games.

And sure, you get to say, oh, I ran around and it was good for my health and stuff. But like hobbies, when you get to be an adult, hobbies are expensive. Yeah. Okay. Well, 0800DARLS.NM, give us a call. You can text as well, 9696. Maybe you want to open up about a past addiction to some in-app purchases. How much were your in-app purchases?

How much did it get to? So we're talking about a father who had to sell the family car to pay his son's accidental Apple iStore charges when he played this game in Broadway. Somebody said the best headline could have been, father has to sell family car to buy dragons. Which is very true. But we want to know what your in-app purchase is, what you've spent, how much it's come to.

Maybe it's snuck up on you and one day you looked at how many times it was appearing on your credit card statement and you were like, oh, damn. Oh, roll. I'd forgotten that you were addicted to the Kardashian. Yeah, remember that Kardashian app? It'd be like $40 in total and I was like, no, too much. Is she still rocking that? No. Oh, no, too much. Is she still rocking that?

No. Oh, I don't know. Is that still a thing? Carwin says yes. You're playing that now. Oh my God. Carwin. Carwin.

Carwin. Megan was doing this, what? Yeah, that was in the old building. It was like 2014, start of 2015. Yeah. You're not spending money,

are you? No. I'd be interested to see how it's changed though. I have restraint. Yeah, no, sometimes you've got are you? No. I'd be interested to see how it's changed, though. I have restraint. Yeah, no, sometimes you've got to weigh up, am I going to invest eight hours of my life to get this or am I just going to spend $5?

And then you're like, no, eight hours is the sensible answer and you realise how much value am I putting on my time here? I can't believe that game's still a thing. Him, Kardashian, Hollywood, yeah. It's still number 40 in the App Store. Wow. 4.7 out of 5. Yep.

Man should be making money out of this, eh? So an app purchases a small Star Pack $4.99, medium Star Pack $9.99, and a large Star Pack $19.99. Don't buy Star Pack. Megan's triggered. Megan wants it. You want to just tap into it

Just to see what's happening That's like telling someone Who smokes That there's a special on smokes Amy What did you spend On in-app purchases Or was it your son?

It wasn't actually me It was my 8 year old son Okay So I didn't discover That he had done this Until I got to the supermarket for the weekly spend and got all the way to the checkout, and my card said, please contact your bank provider.

And I said, well, what does that mean? It's not declined. What does that mean? And the checkout lady says, try again, please please and she looked really angry at me for inconvenience there and holding up the line so i tried again it said it again and so i rang the bank and they said there's been some suspicious activity on your account so we'll put a block on it and i don't want this suspicious activity and it was all Apple. Oh, right.

And how much had he ticked up? About $400 for that. So what happened was my card details were saved on the iPad. He downloaded a game and it just said, would you like some armor? Oh, right. Okay, right. And because your credit card was saved, it was going into the Apple store and then getting the tick to spend it. $400 later.

Incredible. Amy, thanks for your call. Wesley, how much did you spend on in-app purchases? So about over six months, probably roughly like $1,200. Whoa. What game was it? Grand Theft Auto V. What were you...

I've never really played Grand Theft Auto V. What could you buy in the game? I was like cars and houses and my businesses and stuff. Okay, I will point out that you could have brought an actual car, Wesley, for that much. Not a very good one. Yeah, I could have. I mean, yeah, not a good one,

but even still, our car. Or you could have stolen a car for nothing in real life. As Grand Theft did I taught you how to do. Thanks, you got, Wesley,

some messages in. My partner spent over $2,000 on that goddamn Kardashian game. Somebody's message to me. Wow.

The Kardashians don't need your money. No, they fainted. They don't need it. Well, you know that, but when you're playing it, you just really need those stars. I've probably spent $1,500 on a mobile game.

I've played it for six years, Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes. My little brother was six and he spent $500 on it and that purchase, his lucky dad was able to get it refunded, basically, and there's a few text messages about that if you can explain it. The kids like. And that can reverse it as well. Banks must hear that all the time.

Yeah. Yeah, a few other people with Grand Theft Auto. I used to play Pokemon Guide at about 20 to 30 raids a night which technically are a dollar each. You could buy bundles with air game competitors

and raid passes for 15 bucks. On average, I spent 30 bucks a day for two years. Oh, wow. That's a lot. How do you stop playing when you've invested

that much money? I would sort of have this moral obligation that I was all in now. Yeah, that's the thing. You have to keep going. You have to, once you've spent,

so what's that, 30 bucks a day for two years. Don't work it out. That's so much money. Like a phenomenal amount of money. Yeah.

Over $9,000. Over $9,000 a year. Oh my God. Over $9,000. Over $9,000 a year. Oh my God. So $18,000. Wow. Thereabouts. You've got to be the best in the world now. Yeah, you do.

You've literally got to catch them all. How's about the sad message to end? This came in on Instagram. A friend's little brother cleared his savings at 15. $9,000 in three months before his parents found out. Oh no! Does it say what game it was? No, but at least it was his money, not the

parents, I guess. No, a friend's little... I took it as the friend's little brother had cleared out the friend's bank account. Oh no, I thought it was he'd cleared out his own. Yeah, but I assumed that his savings were probably assisted by his parents, though. He couldn't have saved $9,000 at 15.

His parents probably helped him out with that. Yeah, I don't know. That's so much money, though. Wow. All right, thank you for your messages, your texts. Next on the show, Vaughn has learned something today. I've ignored so many warning signs on this, but I've never actually been corrected in person until today.

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I, just before the show, I was having a whinge. I just like a whinge every now and then. We know. I was whinging about my in-house nemesis, Tony Street. I don't know. I've maybe given you hints before that Tony Street and I are mortal enemies. Yeah, you have. It's come to a physical altercation in the kitchen,

and she absolutely kicked my ass. She beat you out in that New World hosting gig where you cooked. Boy, I was livid. That could have been you on the TV ads cooking. Oh, my God. Listen to this. Chicken and pasta? Those are magic words to my children.

And I'm the New World chicken and pasta recipe guy. Yeah, you are. Anyway, it came to blows in the kitchen. She absolutely beat my ass. Like, I'm not even going to lie to you. She's a strong woman. Yeah. And she drives a Ford Ranger to work.

Yes, she does. With a bumper bar on it. she slammed it into the side of my car yep um and that's how she knows to stop in the car park when she hits your car yeah yeah she put a fat wire out on my family which i thought was a little bit overboard but you know you've got to do what you've got to do she's among one of the nicest people here she is the craziest you live in me yes she carries a knife so do i we. She carries a knife. So do I. We're going to have a knife fight later in the kitchen. So anyway, imagine my

disdain when I'm in the bathroom urinating and Coast, the radio station she works on in the morning is on. What was Tony Street

doing in your bathroom? No, no, no. The radio was on. Coast was on in the bathroom and they're just regaling their audience with a trip they had where Tony received a massage. Now, you could win the same trip.

A massage. A massage. But I'd imagine that masseuse would have had to have been strong because the knots in that woman's arms from the thrashing she gives everybody. Yeah, from all the fighting she does. Street fighting. That's why she's called Tony Street. Tony Street fighting.

Tony Street fighting. Yeah. She would be a hell of a... Tony Street fighting. Yeah. That's why she's called Tony Street. Tony Street fighting. Tony Street fighting. Yeah. She would be, she'd be a hell of a. Tony Street fighter. She'd be, yeah, she, Tony Street fighter too. She would like, I would imagine if the masseuse had a tender spot, Tony would kick their ass. Yeah.

So, and so on went the story about if you could name the massage that Tony had received, you could win a trip. Now, you had to go and watch a video. Don't go and watch the video. Don't win a trip away. You're like promoting them now. This is why, though. Because they said they went to Hamner Springs.

Yeah. Now, I came back in and I was like, what the hell? Where's our luxury trip to Hamner Springs? Yeah. I want a massage. Yeah, I know you do. I want it at the same strength that Tony Street got it to prove that I am as strong as Tony Street. Yeah.

And executive intern Anya said to me, you're saying that wrong. And I said, how's it said? Street-ha? And she said, no, not Tony Street. You're not saying that wrong. You're saying Hamner wrong. It's Ham-na. Ham-na.

And I said, no, it's not. It's Hamner Springs. And she said, it's not. It's Hamna Springs. And she said it's not. The N comes before the M. Yeah, it's H-A-N M-E-R. Hamna. Hamna. This is blowing my mind. This is like one of those things that change

that I'm sure has changed and everybody's just on board because this is the Truman Show and everyone's testing how So I've always said Hamna And everybody's just on board because this is the Truman Show and everyone's testing how. So I've always said hamner and no one has corrected me. But you always thought it was hamner. Hamner, H-A-M-N-E-R, hamner. Hamner makes no sense. What a horrible word to say.

Hamner. Hamner. Hamner. It rolls off the tongue. Hamner requires a stop down. But it's unlike New Zealanders to pronounce some names wrong. And then ignorantly ignore them. And then, yeah, go on with saying Hamner for the rest of your life

because you can't be bothered. I'm not going to change. Excuse me, I'm a white male. You want me to change how I say things? Oh, no, no, no. So we asked on our Instagram, how do you say ham-na springs? Ham-na springs.

Ham-na. Ham-na. 65% of people say ham-na. Ham-na. Ham-na. Ham-na. And only 35% say ham-na-ma. Ham-nah. Ham-nah. Ham-nah. And only 35% say Han-nah-muh. No, Ham and Han-nah.

Han-nah. Han-nah. See the show Alice's Message. She's a North Islander who moved to Christchurch. She said she got taught, the second thing she got told after she moved here, she got asked what school she went to, which is a Christchurch classic.

And then no Ham and ham-er. Yeah. Oh, my God. And no sun and sum-na. Now, I knew it was sum-na. Same. I knew it was sum-na. Do they say sun-ma?

Sun-ma. No one says sun-ma. Sun-ma. People say sun-ma. I say sum-na and I say ham-na and that's that. I won't be changing. Not even the Tony Street special massage with the happy ending is going to change my mind if I get flown to Hamner.

Well, any massage that Tony Street gets has a happy ending because the masseuse hasn't been beaten to death by Tony Street or stabbed. So that's a happy ending. That's a happy ending for them. They get to live another day and go. I hope she sues you for defamatory. Well, no. If she does, she'd have to prove that I'm lying.

And she can't. There's security footage of her beating the hell out of me in the kitchen. She threw my hot porridge in my face yesterday. For the record, she is the most loveliest person you'll ever meet. She is. And that's why Vaughn can't stand it. How dare anyone be so nice? Play ZM's Flesh, Fawn

and Megan. Well, there is a dating app called Badoo. What does this one do? I don't know. I don't know if it's big in New Zealand. Like, you know, your big ones in New Zealand, your Tinder, your Bumble. I'm going to look up what Badoo does differently.

Invented by Erika Badoo. Was it? No. Oh my god, that is a lame joke. And such a 90s niche reference. If you're under 30 and didn't get that, don't worry. You just seemed so like, you looked at your computer and I thought, you can read it.

Erykah Badoo! Oh, it was invented by a Russian entrepreneur. Okay. It's been around, it was a social network first entrepreneur. Okay. It's been around. It was a social network first invented in 2006. So it's been around for ages, but must have just done a change up. They carried out some research, and they found that 93% of people that use dating apps

said that they would be more open and honest if they knew that their conversations couldn't be screenshot and sent to people. And over half of people surveyed say they worry about their private messages or pictures because some dating apps will let you send pictures. They worry about those being shared, and so they maybe don't share them because they know that they can be screenshot. Well, the dating app Bidoo have now made it impossible

for you to screenshot a conversation. I don't know if you've ever been watching Netflix on your phone and you've tried to screenshot. Yeah. I remember seeing something and I was like, oh, I'm going to send that to you or the group chat, and I screenshot it and it was just all black. Yeah, but if you've got closed captions on, if you've got

subtitles, they stay on the screen. Oh, but the picture doesn't. But the picture's gone. Right, so they've somehow used that technology to make it impossible for you to screenshot convos on the dating app. Which is good. That's good. No, but what if you get creeps?

Well, yeah, that's the downside. That's the downside. If you get a creepy message, you can't call. Screenshot it. Yeah. Although you could just take a photo of it, I guess, with someone else's phone if you wanted to call them out. Yeah, that's true. But, I mean, I guess it's... Nothing drives me more wild than a picture of a screen.

A picture of a picture. Taken on another... Yeah. A picture of a screen rather than just a screen cap. Or when people upload a photo and they've screen capped a photo and they upload their entire screen cap so you see how much percentage battery they had too. That's pretty great.

And that's like a classic mum profile picture. It looks okay, but then you click on it to see it bigger and then you see it doesn't get bigger. It just has more stuff. People who talk a lot of rubbish, shall we say, who spin a lot of BS, talk yarns. I'm looking at you, Vaughn. You sound like great people.

But you don't, you don't, I'm like, you're not a bold-faced liar. I don't let the truth get in the way of a good yarn. But you're not, you don't come in here with absolute, you're not one of those people that just makes stuff up to make yourself look better or seem cooler or better. To expand on that, people who are better at

producing made up explanations for concepts. Oh, okay. Right. Which I mean, you could do that. You start talking and you hope you end up somewhere. Yeah. Pretty much. Okay.

People who do that are more intelligent. But it's just faking it till you make it, right? Exactly. Well, why wasn't it at school? Why wasn't it a subject at school? Faking it till you make it. Yeah. Well, because people who are good at faking it till they make it Yeah Well because People who are good at Faking it till they make it

Are smarter because They have the Intelligence to make up Stories That would be feasible Unless you deal with Someone like me Because I've got that detected

I know What's that personality trait I've got My Remember we did our Personality test Oh yeah you can detect the BS And I can detect the BS

Yeah The sociopath one Like that's Vaughn's like I'm just on my way I yeah, you can detect the BS. And I can detect the BS. Yeah. The sociopath one. Like that's why Vaughan's like, I'm just on my way. I'm like, you're in the shower, aren't you? You're an architect. He's like, yep. No, I'm about to get in the shower. I can't have my phone in the shower.

You're the same as Michelle Obama, though, eh? Yeah. Yeah. So you either go psycho or you go like real amazing brainy, get it done. Which one are you? Cute. That's the psycho showing through.

But also you're intelligent but you're also apparently more susceptible to vulnerable misinformation.

So like you're likely to believe other people who tell lies. Oh no. No. You can't be wildly cynical. Because you're not an anti-vaxxer that spins some yarns. No, no, no. You can't be wildly cynical.

Because you're not an anti-vaxxer that spins some yarns. No, no, no. What does that mean? I don't think we should class anti-vaxxers as intelligent people. Wouldn't a yarn teller be able to tell another yarn teller? Yeah, a BSer can always spot another BSer. That's the rule of being a BSer. Yeah.

Well, apparently not, according to this study. I am the box. But clues aplenty for the box. You think it looks like Bruno Mars. The eyes do, yeah. Yeah, this is a picture clue that went online yesterday on our socials. You can see it on our story, FVMZM, if you need that. Also, the four-letter word that we're looking for,

that makes an appearance in the trailer. And there's a seven involved somehow. Yes. One of the letters attributed to a seven or a letter that can be exchanged for a seven. So people are pouring over the Marvel Studios Black Widow trailer.

It's in there somewhere. Alright, let's go to Mia. Mia, good morning. Good morning. Alright, you've's go to Mia. Mia, good morning. Good morning. All right, you've done the hard bit. You've got through. Yes, I have. And now I'm feeling a bit nervous because it's not my original guess. So if I seem a bit shaky, I might faint.

Okay. Sit down. What happened to your original guess? So my original guess was star. Star. Okay. Yeah, but it's not that,

so let's just scrap that. Mm-hmm. And we're going to go with bird, which is two, four, seven,

three. Okay, walk us through why bird? Okay, I literally only saw the birds right at the start of the Marvel trailer,

so that is all I've got for you. You just like screw the rest of the clothes. I'm just going with the fact I saw a bird. I feel so bad because I didn't even think that I'd get through. And then when I did, I was like, I ran over to my parents' house and, what the heck, what do I do? What about the eyes we saw? Well, I think it's Bruno Mars, but I don't know.

Yeah, so did I. So that's why I was thinking with stars, Mars, some sort of galactic thing going on. But no, it has no relation to a bird. He does look like a bird, though, doesn't he? Well, famously. And do you know what planet has no birds? What, Mars?

Mars, yeah, Bruno Mars. Yeah, that could be it. And if you had a bird, a good name for it would be Bruno. Bruno the bird. Yes, it would be. Because it's a very masculine name on a bird's head. But he's looking to the side with the birds on one side of the screen. There might be like a magpie out of sight trying to attack him or something.

All right, well, you've got to keep an eye on a magpie. That's the old saying. Mia, we've gone deep down this hole. Let's see if it is bird. 2, 4, 7, 3. Here we go. And I'm going to hit enter. Oh!

Hello, listeners. Now I do have to level with you. Yes, I've got $20,000 inside me. Yes, I am sponsored by a wonderful film that is released next week. But I need this prize to be won. I can't keep going on like this for months after the film has been released. What will the accountant say? Open that box.

Well, we're trying. We're trying. We are trying. I don't know if there was a clue in that. Open that box. Well, hey, Mia, unfortunately, not $20,000 today, but we do have a double pass to Marvel Studios' Black Widow. It's in cinemas July 8th and streaming on Disney+, with premiere access July 9th.

Conditions apply. Georgia at midday with your next chance. How do you know if it's really Erin? How do you know if it's really Aaron? How do you know if it's really Aaron? Maybe just back off the mic a little bit there, Whitney. Hang on. A bit worse, hasn't it? I thought I should get closer next time to the mic.

I was thinking, like, put the whole thing in my mouth. I've gone... I went minus 15 on your mic level. So you can write the back off for all minus. I don't know if that's how mic levels work. Erin joins us. Good morning, Erin. Hello.

How's it going? Good. Welcome to How Do You Know? We're going to get to know you now, Erin. And we want people listening, if they recognise you, to call us immediately, please. Immediately. Immediately. Immediately. Immediately.

Immediately. On 0800-DARZEN. And we want to see how close and how small New Zealand is right now. Now, Erin, whereabouts do you live? In Christchurch. Wonderful. Oh, what school do you go to? High school, you mean?

Yeah. I don't know. When Christchurch people ask that question. High school, right? They mean high school, right? They mean high school, yeah. Burnside. Burnside, okay.

Isn't that a biggie? Yeah, it's a biggie. It's a biggie. Is that the one you drive past on the way in from the airport? That big one you see the field? Yeah, that big one. Double story bits and pieces? Yep, that's the one.

Yep, that's it. That's all... Burnside, blah. You're working now, Erin? What are you... I'm on my way to work. I'm a nurse, yeah. Oh! That's all. So you're working now, Erin? What are you? On my way to work, I'm a nurse, yes. Oh.

Yes, good. Thank you for your service. This is great work. What else do we want to know? What did you do between school and now? Did you travel anywhere or? I didn't travel. I basically went straight to work. I worked in a hotel at the

Commodore Bay, the airport. Then I got into rest home work and then I kind of did my nursing and yeah. So someone might have remembered you, they might have gone to see like Nana and you were working at the rest home. Yeah, never know. You don't, do you? What about extracurricular activities?

Any sports teams, social teams? We weren't so much into the social aspect of that. We were more into, oh, that's not a good look, is it? You know, we went a lot of clubbing and stuff like that. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't say that's not a good look because you were doing work like hospitality

when you were at the hotel and then you went to rest times. You need to have a blowout. You need to do your socialising. You don't have to justify that. So you were a bit of and then you went to rest times, you need to have a blowout. You need to do your socialising. You don't have to justify that. So you were a bit of a club gal, were you? We were, yeah. Not a good look. I was looking inside.

It was just what you did. Of course it was. Of course it was. What was your bar of choice? When did you frequent? What was your haunt? Yeah, Grumpy Mole, I guess. Yes. Iconic.

Yes, in the day. Iconic. Iconic, the mole. Yeah, is that still a car park? I think it is. Shooters was another good one. Shooters was another good one. Shooters? Yeah. I had many a great night at Shooters, and we saw some things at Shooters. I saw some

things in Shooters that I've never seen anywhere else. Like what? Well, you can't say that. I wouldn't even be repeating. Okay, Erin, we're going to play a song and come back next, and we're going to see if anybody listening now recognises you. Yes. Or knows you.

You know Erin from maybe a tabletop at Shooters? Or a rest time? Quick Pash in the big toilets at the Grumpy Mole. Yep. They had very sizable loos, as I recall, for all sorts of maneuvering. Or maybe you ran into Erin when she was looking after Nan at the rest time or have met her at work now where she works as a nurse. All right.

How do you know 0800 DANCEATM if you know Erin? We'll come back next. How do you know if it's really Erin? How do you know if it's really her? Oh, that doesn't get any better, does it? That's it. That's it for the show. How do you know?

At least you know that you can't sing. What? Says who? I think the country. I had rave reviews. Yeah, I think you made dogs bark. I think you were opening a few garage doors with that frequency. Erin, hello.

Hello. Today, hello. We're trying to get to know Erin, and if anybody else knows Erin in today's How Do You Know, you just call in as soon as you know Erin. We've got a couple of callers. Now, Amy, good morning. You think you know Erin? Maybe. got a couple of callers. Now, Amy, good morning. You think you know Erin? Maybe.

I didn't catch, like, her last name. Well, no, we don't say the last name. We don't say the last name. Oh, that'll be why then. That'll be it. So you know A. Erin or Ann Erin? Ann Erin, yeah. Now, how do you think you know this Erin?

Maybe from intermediate and high school. Let's check. Erin, what intermediate and high school. Let's check. Erin, what intermediate and high school did you go to? You went to Burnside High. What intermediate did you go to? Cobham. Oh, they said it at the same time! They did say it at the same time.

Now, would you have been the same year, Amy? Do you think Erin and you were the same year? Yeah, we were in the same class at Cobham, maybe, and same year at high school. Okay, Erin, is this ringing any year? Yeah, we're in the same class at Cobham, maybe, and same year at high school. Okay. Erin, is this ringing any bells? Possibly. I guess it depends on the year, doesn't it?

What year would have been your final year of high school? Oh, I don't know. I dropped out early, but I was born in 88. Born in 88. Are you around there, Erin? Yeah, I'm 87 so possibly okay okay

um what else can we what do you what do you remember about Erin at high school um well we had like

a mutual friend so oh and like intermediate she dated like one of my best friends Aiden oh

yes I know who you are oh my god yes nuts what do we need to do we want to know more you are Oh my God Yes What? Do we need to Do we want to know more Or do we sing the song first?

Let's sing the song first And come back to know more About this, Aidan That's how we know That it's really Aaron That's how we know That it's really her What happened with Aidan?

I mean, this is a long time ago But what happened with Aidan? Well mean, this is a long time ago, but what happened with Aiden? Well, he's an Aussie now. Oh, okay. He doesn't date girls anymore, so. Oh, wow. He doesn't date men anymore either, so I'm married to a woman, so. Wait, so Erin and Aiden were in a heterosexual relationship at Intermediate

and now both find themselves gay. Find themselves gay, you know what I mean. We weren't in a relationship as such. We were best friends at Intermediate. So did you? I can't remember, but yeah, something like that. Did you have an inkling? Did you confide in each other that you were having?

Was that something you talked about at Intermediate? No, no. I don't think either of us knew back then. Okay. Wow. Okay, amazing. That's the right one. That's awesome.

Amy, thank you. Now, Erin, we've got somebody else who believes they know you. Niamh, good morning. Good morning. I'm actually not sure anymore, but maybe. Oh, okay. All right, Niamh. I'm not sure.

Niamh, how do you think you know Aaron? I thought I might be Aaron's son's preschool teacher. Aaron doesn't have a son. Aaron doesn't have a son. Oh, no! They didn't know this particular Aaron. They didn't know this one right here. Oh, unfortunately, no, Niamh.

Thank you, though. No, it's all right. It's been a while since we've sung that. Yeah, I know. Yeah, well, we have Erin, who's a nurse in Christchurch, who's the mother of one of our kids. So I was like, that sounds like her. Erin's like, God, I don't have a kid.

What, what? Do I? I don't know. It was a wild night with Aidan. Who knows? Brilliant. Erin, thank you so much for playing this morning. How do you know?

A 50% success rate there. No worries. Thank you. Have a good day at work. There's no prize. There's no prize. Just glory. Just one singing.

And walk down memory lane. CDM's Fletchborn and Megan Fact of the day Day Day Day Day Today's fact of the day Is about razor blades

In your wall cavity What? It's a weird one But if you Yes Today's Fact of the Day is about razor blades in your wall cavity. What? It's a weird one. But if you buy an old home, like a villa or like a 1930s, 1940s, maybe 1950s home and you do renovations in the bathroom, you might find razor blades in the wall. Here's why. So up until like the early 1900s

if you wanted to shave you had one of those things that they still use at the barbers. The blades. Sweeney Todd blade. Switchblade. Yeah and they sharpen it on like leather and stuff to keep that just that perfect sharpness and they go

and they shave. I know people freak out about it and then in like 1903 Gillette invented something called a safety razor. Now, you may remember those. Your granddad might have shaved with one. I remember when I was really young, my dad had one. You put a double-sided razor in the top of this device and then twist the handle and it closes the lid around it and it's got a blade out either side.

Yeah. And those became the thing to shave with. Yeah. So they were the first one where you got the handle for pretty cheap. They were selling you the razor blades. Yeah. And it's the refills. And the modern razors are the same. You can get the handle pretty cheap. It's when

you're buying all the refills and they start getting more expensive. They get you. So those blades became a bit of a problem because they were like the first thing in a house that was disposable that wasn't burnable. Oh, yeah, right. So people used to just burn their own rubbish, basically,

and everything came wrapped in paper. This was pre-plastic. Yeah. Plastic was only used for stuff that lasted forever. So disposable plastic wasn't really used. So all of your rubbish kind of got burnt. And then a lot of the time, because there was no chemicals in it, it'd get chucked in the garden or it'd get chucked in the compost heap

and it would end up being used in the garden. Oh, what a simpler time. I know. How great. Everyone would be smoky fires, smog everywhere. It was just beautiful. No ozone layer. No.

None of that junk. But those little razor blades wouldn't burn. Yeah. So they became a problem. What do we do with them? There wasn't rubbish collection. There certainly wasn't a recycling program. So somebody invented a bathroom cabinet that you open.

It's got mirrors on the front that you opened. And it was inset in the wall. And they just cut a little slit in the bottom of it. And when you were finished with your razor, you just popped it in the hole. And you just put it in your wall. You just put it in your wall. Out of sight, out of mind. They're like, these things are so tiny.

They're going to take a lifetime. It's going to take a lifetime to fill that gap. Yeah, right. It's not going to, I'm never going to have to, I'm never going to have to worry about it in my lifetime. This is going to be somebody else's problem. Now, that generation were great at that. This is going to be somebody else's problem.

Thanks for that situation. I mean, thanks for fighting in the war. Yeah, that was great. Much appreciated. Yeah, but thanks for your razor junk. Yeah. So they just, and then when the next step of razor came in, and recycling and rubbish collection and everything,

they stopped being used and people just like plastered over them. I remember my grandparents' house, one cupboard, they had had the slot in it and I had no idea what it was for. Oh, wow. But yeah, I wonder now if that house has still got razors in the wall. Probably. Probably. Because.

How are you going to get them out? Yeah, people would have shaved them. We dropped all sorts of things down there like earbuds. We'd just get things and push them down there and be like, where's that gone? Another dimension, don't know. Can't see it. I've got to imagine renovating a villa and finding like hundreds of razor blades. Of razor blades, yeah.

And they'd be rusty as too, wouldn't they? Just in the wall. No, well, apparently not because... Oh, stainless steel. They've been dry in there. Oh, okay. There wasn't enough moisture and because the moisture could get out that hole,

it wasn't like an overly moist spot in there. So, yeah, so there's a photo of a few places that have done it and the couple that initially were like, what the hell happened in this house? Yeah, that's what I'd say. And someone explained to them that it was like, what the hell happened in this house? And someone explained to them that it was just, you know, if they check the bathroom cabinet they just pulled out, there would be a hole at the bottom that

might have been covered since, but there would be a hole there. So today's fact of the day is if you're renovating an old house and find a wall full of razor blades, don't worry, that's just how it was back in the day. Fact of the day! of the day day day day play zm's flesh phone and megan um just happened and everybody like laughed about it and we're

like well this isn't funny. No, I thought this was fair, a fair trade. This is a great trade. It's a fair trade agreement. This is very primary school of you two. We did a food trade. But not even a primary. It was a food trade of the same food.

It happened yesterday, and then it's happening again today. Fletch yesterday said, oh, my bananas had it. I don't think this banana's going to be any good. And I looked at the banana that is similar to this banana you see in front of you now, Megan, and I said, that's the perfect banana. You see, I got too many last week because I love them ripe. No, I love them green. Just yellow. Yeah, and you love them.

I like them brown. I like when they've got brown spots. You eat bananas that are perfect for a banana cake. Uh-huh. Maybe just pre-banana cake. They go a bit flowery at that point. No, they go sweet. I find that this is a sweeter banana.

No, I love them firm. No, nothing's worse than a green banana and you're eating it and you can feel it lining your mouth. See, that's too soon to eat a banana. No, but even like the early stages of greeny yellow, I still can taste that. And the pith seems to be really strong. That ropey stuff on the inside seems to be like

made of nylon at that early stage of the game. So you get your banana to this point where it's had some life experience. It's been around the bush. It's been thrashed around in my school bag. It's soft to the touch. That's been thrashed around in my school bag. It's soft to the touch. That's going to slice up lovely on me porridge, whereas Sade will buy bananas.

She's like, I buy them greeny yellow so that they've got time to ripen. I'm like, we're a family of, you're just one man. I've got four mouths, five currently, five mouths to feed, all of which love bananas. And they'll eat them soon. And they'll eat a whole bunch of bananas on the day of purchase or the day after purchase. They never get a chance.

And they never get to your preferred ripen. Unless there's some sort of supermarket admin error and too many, if I buy a bunch of bananas and Sade buys a bunch of bananas, I'm like, will you stick to that? I'll let these ones brown up nicely. And then I'll eat them. But it was a classic food trade.

And everybody here thought it was like primary school. It's going to be lovely on my porridge. It got us reminiscing about primary school food trades. Yeah, and how I used to switch. Callum used to have white bread sandwiches with lots of butter and champagne ham. Ooh. Ooh. Not even luncheon, like shaved ham from the deli.

Murray made a good sandwich. That was his dad. So Callum, he'd always get these sandwiches. So to him, he was done with them. He was over them. And we didn't even, he just would hand them off. He had an after school job. So he often, or he had money for a lasagna topper.

From the canteen. Remember those things? Oh, yeah. Piping hot. Covered in crumbed. Yeah, theying hot. Covered in crumbed. Yeah, they were crumbed. A crumbed mini lasagna. They heated them too much sometimes and the edge got a bit chewy.

Yes. That was when they'd been deep fried and then re-microwaved. You can make them soggy again with tomato sauce. Anything can be made soggy again from the school canteen. But he used to get that and he'd eat an offload of sandwiches to me. I was stoked. I loved the ham sandwiches because they're A, butter. We were a margarine family. Oh, me. I was stoked. I loved the ham sandwiches because they're A, butter. We were a margarine family.

Oh, treat. That was nice. Fresh white bread versus the stuff we'd had that had been defrosted out of the chest freezer because we were too rural. And we never had champagne ham. We only ever had luncheon chub. Right. Luncheon chub.

Don't call it that. It is. That's what it's called. It's called a chub of luncheon. And you get your chubby out of the fridge. You get a slice of it off. Yeah, and when it got to the's called a chub of luncheon. And you get your chubby out of the fridge. You just slice a bit off. Yeah, and when it got to the end of the chub, it was like a treat.

You got to eat the fat end of the chub. You're a chub sandwich. Yeah, you'd have a chubby sandwich. It'd slice off. Mum would be like, you're slicing the chub too thick. You'd have to do a thin chub slice. It was like dog roll.

100% it was dog roll. It was salty as all. I tasted some recently because I said to the kids, I'm like, look at this, blow your mind. Slice them off a bit. And they were kind of like, yum, because they're kids and they love salty processed meats. But eating it, I was just like, I could feel my blood pressure going up.

Did you have the ones with peas and corn in it? No. It was peas and carrots lunches. We had that. That was a BS way of selling to parents who felt guilty about making their kids nothing but those sandwiches. Well, it is vegetables. It was just their way of making the product cheaper, wasn't it?

Yeah, yeah. It's like a cheap vegetable. Yeah. Chuck some sawdust in. I remember at primary school, my friend Brett always used to have burger rings. Like every day. Oh, little packets Brett always used to have burger rings. Like every day. Little packets. Twisties, burger rings.

I know Lucky, but he would always get them. And so he'd see my sandwiches and I'd quite often do a trade and just have burger rings. Yeah, that's good stuff. Make a great trade. I used to trade my mum's baking for like chippies or roll-ups. Oh no. I know, that seems terrible. That seems terrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, that seems terrible. That seems terrible.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mum's made a lovely biscuit. Unless she made it off some crappy roll-up. Unless it was some crappy Anzac dry biscuit. Nah, it's chocolate chippies. Her muffs are far from dry. She's always been a moist baker. I used to help my mum.

Your mother's baking is nothing short of a moist delight. Please clarify. Never line a couple of her cookies. Please clarify those statements. She never dries it out. Or goes too far the other way. Never sloppy. We were wondering if you did the same.

What was your food trade? Who did you trade food with? At school. Even better if you're doing it at work, by the way. If you've got a job that you're still doing food trade with at work, co-worker. Because that's the thing. You're an adult now. You can decide what you have for lunch.

But maybe not. Maybe if your partner makes you lunch and you're like, I'm going to trade my sandwiches. Why don't Marnie's sandwiches? They can't give me sandwiches. 0800 DARS at M. We want to go down memory lane. Did you have a food trade at school?

And maybe this was something you did all the time and maybe you were getting rid of your lunch and sandwiches all the time. Give you were getting rid of your luncheon sandwiches all the time. Give us a call. It's a trip down memory lane this morning.

Vaughan and I did a banana food exchange, much like primary school when you'd exchange lunches. Yep. And I tell you what, we are hearing some fantastic stories this morning.

I've just been reminded of when we had an exchange student. Oh yeah. Like it was a school billeting system. Oh, yeah. And this kid came down from the North Shore of Auckland

and stayed on the farm, and Mum was making lunch the next day, and he stood and looked in horror at what she made us for lunch. What was it? It was like the lunch and like a thick cut of lunch. And he was like, what's that? And his dad was like a chef. And this was just like mind-blowing to him that we were reading what he thought was dog roll.

Megan, what did you exchange at lunchtime back at school? Mine was... Oh, your line's terrible. It was a what? Did you say a pie? Okay, we're just going to drop you there. We're having some technical difficulties here with the phone. I believe it was a pie for a weird sandwich.

What was on the weird? Did the producers, did you get what was on the weird sandwich? Because Jared did write weird in capital letters on the phone logo. What was on the sandwich? It was a marmite and walnut sandwich. What? Walnuts? I double checked. Walnut? Smashed a walnut. Oh, nonuts? I would try. I double checked.

Walnut? Smashed up walnuts. Oh, no. I'd try that now. I'm tempted to try that. I wouldn't have liked it as a child, but I'd try it now. Some other text messages. I grew up in a small town, and when we used to go somewhere with a McDonald's,

and they had a 50-cent hamburger deal, Mom and Dad would buy $20 worth. Hang on. When was this? A 50-cent hamburger? Feels like the 90s. They'd buy 20 bucks worth of them and put them in the freezer and I'd take them to school as my lunch. What a genius idea. And I'd swap them for fresh pies.

Wow. And everyone was falling over themselves for a hamburger at lunch. Even though it had been like defrosted and then re-microwaved. I don't know where the microwaving was happening either. At home before you go or at school? You'd have to do it at school and you'd have to have a cup of water in there. Yeah. To get some moisture in that bun.

It wasn't happening. Somebody said that our small rural school had a real great barter system going. I used to trade mum's baking with the boys who had hungy eel for lunch. Oh, wow. Smoked hungy eel. Wow, okay. Pretty good. Just some classic swaps going on here. My lunch was always pretty cat crap

because we were broke, but the kids in my class always had Marmite sandwiches with the crusts blown off. Blew my mind. I said you should bring the crusts to school. Yeah. And then I ate the crusts and then he gave me a bite of his sandwiches as well, so I was just a really crust-heavy sandwich. All right, we'll keep you at calls coming in.

0800-DARLS.M9696. Your school lunch trades from back in the day. We're talking about food switches at school, if you perhaps traded lunches. Fletch and I traded our... Fletch had the sort of banana I like with my breakfast, and I had the sort of banana he likes. He's a yellowy greener.

I'm more of a yellowy brown. I'm a firm man. Yeah. Yeah. I'm soft. Soft and squidgy. Brown and bruised. Yeah.

Seen some things. And you'd be great in a banana cake. Yeah. My shelf life is limited. And you've got the odd fruit fly on you. Yes. Buzzing around. But this is a real trip down memory lane.

The people that have been sopping. Do you know what? It just seems to be the common thing is when you're a kid you just want what you don't have. And a lot of adults are exactly the same. You just grow into different things. It's not what you've got to take for lunch. It's cars you drive or areas you live in. Looking back, you had a really nice

homemade sandwich or home baking and you were like, I want a packet of chips. I want to roll up. So some text messages in on the chips. I want to roll up. Yeah. So some text messages in on the switches. My mum was a chef. She used to make her own bread for sandwiches, and fillings were often things like blue cheese, pear, and maple.

Oh, yum. I'd sell them to the art teacher and go and buy a pie. And the art teacher was like, yes. The art teacher was baked. I feel like kids, even it takes you a while to get that taste for blue cheese, right? Yeah. Oh, I know adults that haven't developed their taste for blue cheese because they're heathens. I didn't like it for years. But in a good combination, nothing beats it.

Oh, my God. That's a perfect combo. Yeah. A bit of sweetness. A bit of maple. Get a little bit of crunch of a bit of walnut on the top there. A little bit of nut crunch. Add some meat chub to that.

Slap it all on a Devon sausage lunch ham. Do you know, I've just spent the last five minutes Googling how to make pea and ham luncheon, and I cannot find a single video. I want to see a video of the old Hutton's factory when Hutton's... Are Hutton's still cranking out a chub of luncheon? I'm going to... Do they do the sizzlers? I'm not sure I've seen it.

Sizzlers. It was in Hamilton. The Hutton's Factory was on the corner in Hamilton, but I don't think it's there anymore. I remember being quite upset. I drove past and they didn't have the sausage in the pan. Like, all it is, all I can find are recipes. I don't want recipes.

I want to see the video of it being made. Because you think about it. I want to see it from start to end. I want to see the video of it being made. I want to see it from start to end. I want to see the bits and pieces of animal that they can't sell. You think about the little cubes of carrot and peas, right? They are set into a meaty log.

They're not mixed up. So at some stage, the meat around it must have had to have been liquid. But not so liquid as the fact that everything sunk must have had to have been liquid. Yes and but not so liquid as the fact that everything sunk. Dropped to the bottom yeah. No. It still had to have the top. It's evenly distributed throughout

the luncheon. Like how is that even possible? I need to see a video but I cannot find one online. My friend used to work at the Huns factory in Hamilton. She made the sizzlers, the pre-cooked sausages and so there was this plastic casing and she used to work at the Huns factory in Hamilton. She made the sizzlers, the pre-cooked sausages. And so there was this plastic casing, and she used to stand at the end with what was called the meat gun

and plug it in and pull the trigger, and it would just pump meat in. What about the cheese? And then it would steam them, and then you'd attach a vacuum, and it would go. And machine gun the sausages out the end of the tube. Oh, my God, that sounds fun. I know. And I'm wondering if it was just like a massive version of that.

No. Yeah, because it was just sausage meat, right? Oh yeah, maybe they poke the little corn, the little carrot and peas in with like a stick. Yeah, didn't they poke them in?

No, they're not poking them in because they would have left holes. Okay, that is, listener, this is your homework. Yeah. Is to find... If anyone can find us a good video of them

making a luncheon chub. Yeah, that'd be fantastic. Let us know. Please send it in to the show. FBMZM on Instagram or Facebook. Megan's just pulled up Hutton's. They're still made. They're still in the supermarket.

They're still by a tube. So someone's got to be working there. I reckon they'd have a no cameras in the factory policy. Well, that's the old saying, if you see how the sausage is made. There's literally a saying. You don't want to see how the sausage is made. Yeah, all right. Lots of people switching. That's literally a saying. You don't want to see how the sausage is made. Yeah, alright. Lots of people switching. That's right, we were

talking about trading, not how to make lunch and sausage, although this has been a very interesting deviation from the past. To be honest, Lorne, it's been constructive. Very constructive. Yes. I always had a big box of shapes at primary school. Every day? No, sorry. This guy would have a big box of shapes at primary

school. His dad would just give him a box of shapes for lunch. So I did whatever he wanted just so I could have some of his shapes. Now, there's no word as to if they were picking up rubbish. That's so sad. Yeah. But then did he have anything else? Hopefully he had some water. I'm hoping he'd go to school and just trade like 10 shapes for something

and another 10 for something else. For some nutrition. Chewed shapes enough and then formed your mouth into an O and then pushed it out. You could probably make your own lunch and show it.