ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - April 04 2019

Episode Date: April 3, 2019

Chef, Josh Emmett and Megan's mum, Rae Rae go head-to-head for the best chicken casserole, Mike King is in studio ahead of Gumboot Day and how big is your family?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

ZM. Head music lives here. Fletch Warner Megan, the podcast. Thank you, Aine. Good morning. Welcome to the show. Fletch Warner Megan, this strawberry woman. I'd forgotten about her. So not the, has the Australian woman that started all of this been? I don't.

Charged? I feel like she's been charged. Has she yet to be sentenced? Yeah, maybe. Okay. She was found guilty. So, yeah, it's the sentencing today of the Timaru Strawberry Needler. I hope she gets the whole.

I hope she gets the whole. What's the most she's going to get? Seven years. In prison? Mm. Wow. Yeah. But think about all the food she wasted.

It was $3,600 worth of damages. Hey, if you can go to prison for wasting food, someone should put my wife in prison. She keeps buying all these veggies, putting them in the veggie crisper and then not touching them until they're soggy. And then I have to pick out... You're like, I think I'll have a bit of cucumber.

Then your finger goes through it. We get cucumbers. Salaries. Salaries are our biggest. It's like, oh, celery. Oh, no. Salary water. Juice. Greeny brown. Yep, no, celery water. Juice.

Greeny brown. Yep, stinks too. Gross. Why do we keep buying celery? I need it for them. Recipe I make. I'm like, you use a tiny bit. We've got a whole family of celery stalks in here.

You buy a whole head because it's cheaper? Yeah, all the time. All the time. It's like cauliflower. If you don't use it all the day, you buy it. It's just going to be brown and still live in there in a week. Alright, coming up on the show today, another cash

track just after Fact of the Day at 8.30. $500 up for grabs. Mike King, New Zealander of the Year, joins us in studio just after 7 because we need to get organised for Gumboot Day which is tomorrow. Gumboot Friday, yeah. Yeah, it's a chance to raise money so all the money being raised

is to help youth, school aged kids get free counselling. Because we do, we've got an issue with this in New Zealand, don't we? Hell of an issue. And everybody's favourite

silver fox with a skillet, Josh Emmett, with his sexy retracting and extractor fan behind his ovens popping in as well. I hope you didn't hear that. Why? I've told him I think that's a sexy.

It's ill-objectified. No, I'm not. He's good looking, yes, but it's the sexual retracting extractor fan behind his oven. And that's not a metaphor. That's actually straight up behind his oven. His kitchen is very sexy, isn't it? So he's coming in today and that is the reason your mum is in studio Megan.

She is. Morning Ray Ray. She is. No you sit back there like the queen you are. Good morning. Now you have prepared your special secret casserole, the chicken cass. We did it last night.

Do you know how many people we've had message, different ways of messaging the show, demanding that the recipe be put online? No. And then we were like, oh yeah, we'll put it online. And then every day people are like, where is it? Where is it? Where is it? So there's a lot of

build up about this casserole. We've had a lot of flack at home. The boys have gone to do jobs and all of a sudden people were saying, what's that about your mother's casserole? I'm thinking, oh no. Well, the secret's out. We are going to release the recipe. But today, you are going to go up against Josh Emmett. A Michelin star chef mum.

I know. Who's been given the basic idea of the chicken casserole and made it his own. Yeah. His own version of it. casserole and made it his own. Yeah. His own version of it. So we're going to do a tasty. We're going to do a tasty. We've got wine in ours. I don't think he puts wine.

That's the secret, isn't it? Is it? Lots of wine. Morning tipple. We had a few hiccups last night, but I think we might have. It's probably because we drank too much wine. Well, it's coming up. Alright, you lot,

listen up, it's Storytime. Storytime 3 news headlines. Vaughan and Megan pick one of the following three headlines. Headlines for interesting, unusual, quirky news stories. Headline 1, schoolboy DIY. Headline 2, man blames pot gummy bears.

And headline three, man takes private jet on holiday. Oh, the private jet on holiday, is that the guy who was it a 787 and he was the only passenger? 737, I believe. I was going to say, he had a dreamliner to himself. Oh, imagine that.

But obviously not a 737 Max or whatever it is. I haven't read the story, but was he just on a flight that was getting, because sometimes they have to reposition planes, don't they? He didn't think so, though. He just bought a ticket and he got on and he was the only one on the plane. What airline is that? Because you probably want to avoid booking that.

Yeah, I don't know. Can't even sell seats. They're about to go bust. Yeah. You get served food real quick, though. I'd have chicken and fish. You'd have literally like five people looking after you. Like a private jet.

He said the only weird request he made was if he could have two bags of nuts. As soon as there was nobody else on board. Is it okay if I have two? Yeah. Oh, right. That's the thing, it was staffed, so. Yeah, weird. Yeah.

It's so weird. Okay. Well, you know that story. Schoolboy DIY or man blames pot gummy bears. Schoolboy DIY, the guy did something silly when he took cannabis oil gummy bears, right? Have you had champagne gummy bears? They're yummy. Made out of actual champagne?

Yeah. It's like vodka jellies. Doesn't it burn off the alcohol? Oh, maybe. They still taste yum. I haven't been to a 21st for a little while, but I like vodka jellies still the dumb thing at 21st. I remember I made those fancy jellies.

I made it with like Conchro and orange jelly and stuff. Out of your parterre? Yeah, my parterre. Yeah, I think I did have one of those. They were nice. Yeah, I made fancy ones. Yeah, but I'm talking about Christoph vodka, baby. I'm putting too much in because vodka won't set.

It's got to be, you've got to have a lot of the vodka jellies with a little amount of vodka in each other otherwise they don't set properly. Christine found that out the hard way. She loved the vodka jelly, my mum. Big fan. Loves a sweet treat. And she put too much vodka in it and it didn't set properly.

What, just like after dinner or at a party? Oh, no, no, 421st. Oh, okay. She'd sometimes arrive at like Family Friends 21st with a tray of vodka jellies. It became her thing then. Go Christine. She loves them.

She's amazing. So the schoolboy DIY, is that what we're going for? Yes, sure. Okay, well, we go now to Michigan, where lawmakers and the local state are having a tough time funding things like roadworks. Yeah, well, those cities are in a dice there, aren't they? Oh, yeah, especially some of these American ones. Well, a 12-year-old has taken it upon himself to start filling in potholes

around his home and on the streets. And so far he's filled 15 and he's become somewhat of a local hero. What's he filling them in with? Just dirt. Like he doesn't have a bitumen. I was going to say, does he have a compactor? I don't know if he's compacting the hole or... Because you should probably...

But then if it turns to mud, then you're just making a mud pot hole, aren't you? Yeah. Kind of like a mud sinkhole. Would you be better to, and this is... I'm not speaking on any form of authority here. I might be completely incorrect. Right.

Would you be better to fill it with gravel? It would last a bit longer than mud, right? Like, if you got some rocks and put them in the bottom and then some finer gravel on the top, some sand in the mix. Well, he said that he didn't want people messing up their cars like his mom did. She apparently drove through one and it cost her like $600, $700 to fix. So he's like, well, my mom can't afford that and I don't want other people doing that.

So he's just taking it on himself. And he's gone viral on Facebook and people getting him behind him. Here's a novel idea because I know people in New Zealand always have trouble with a pothole. Here's a novel idea. Rather than posting a photo of it on your local Facebook page. Stay with me here. This is a novel idea. Try calling the council and telling them that there's one there.

I know it's wild. But there was one out by us that people were whinging about for ages and somebody said, has anybody actually called the council about it? It got filled in two days later by the council when someone finally actually called them. Well, because I always sit and go, someone's bound to call about that. Yeah. Just not you. Not me.

But that's better than you taking a photo and uploading it and whinging about it, but not actually trying to solve the problem rather than just having a bit of event whinge. Yeah. Because they are pretty good at it.

Yeah. Well that's the thing they don't know they're not out there looking at all the roads every day. Oh there was an app have we talked about

the price check? I think you could report a pothole right? On an app. On an app. Drop a tag and take a photo.

Or I'd go searching for a pothole just to report it. Yeah. That sounds fun. Good bit of civil reporting. That actually sounds

like something Vaughan would want to do and take his kids around on Sunday. Hey, should we go around and find potholes? Find potholes. It's like, we'll call it potholomon. It's like Pokemon. We find real potholes

and we catch them and report them. Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast. ZM. There is a new condom. This is being launched in Argentina. So it is called the Consent Pack. It's designed by an Argentinian manufacturer, Tulipa, and it actually looks pretty cool.

So it's a little box, and it has four little black circles on the sides. Okay. So you can only open this box if two people use two hands to push on special pressure points on the side of the packet, and then the box will open. Like some kind of origami box or something?

Secret finger trap. Finger trap. Yeah, like how does that work? I don't know. So it literally just looks like little black, it's a white box with four little black circles on the sides. And so people have to use two hands to squeeze the pressure points. So you couldn't just use two hands?

No, because if you use two hands, you can't get around the whole box. Also, it's quite a big box. No, but there's pressure points. You literally won't be able to squeeze all four with your two hands to open it. Huh, okay. They've been placed in the position where, yeah, you literally can't. Right. This would be to ensure that both parties involved in the sex

that's about to take place would be consenting. Yeah. But then non-consensual sex is not always protected. No. Like, it's not a whole answer to a problem. No. But it's... I guess it's trying to help.

It's trying to make it a smaller problem overall. Question. What if I meet someone out, say, EG? An amputee. An amputee. Yes. Can they use their one arm and their foot? Yeah, I don't know.

And then I was also thinking, does it necessarily have to be hands? Could you just push it against something? But it's a space for a finger. It's a fascinating idea. I'd love to just see it and try this and see how that works. So these are going to be given out for free in bars and at events in Argentina

and Buenos Aires. Right. But I don't know if they're going to ship them worldwide just yet. But they did some research and they said 65%

of Argentinians occasionally use condoms and then 20% said they never have. Never? 20% of their population have never, ever. That's crazy.

Wow. So, yeah, I think that's a good idea. Like you say, it's not going to fix the problem. What would that stat be here in New Zealand? I don't know. Like, we're all like, oh, Argentina, ooh. But what about here? We don't even know our own stat.

We don't even know. I wouldn't know that. That's crazy. Yeah. ZM's Fletch Warner Megan, the podcast. This morning, well most mornings Anya, there's an Uber ride involved from you

from parking to work. It's something work does to keep their employees safe between the where they have to park and get into the work front doors. So commendable on that to our employers. Yes. But this morning's story from the Uber. Oh my. Me, oh my. Yes, it's only's story from the Uber. Oh, my.

Me, oh, my. Yes, it's only about a two-minute trip. So you think it'd be very hard to offend somebody in two minutes. Yeah. Normally you're getting a two-star in two minutes. Don't get me wrong. Entirely possible, but you'd think you could keep your mouth shut if you were in the service industry for two minutes.

Normally chat is pretty light. It's like, oh, have you just started? Oh, yeah, I've been going for about an hour. Oh, jeez, this is an early start. Like that kind of chat. Yeah. This morning I jumped in and had talked back on. Yeah.

And they were talking about how in Brunei they today are going to be implementing the horrific new law changes. Well, basically, people are stoned to death for being gay. Yeah, and people like George Clooney and Elton John have said you should boycott hotels owned by the Sultan of Brunei, not that any of us would be able to afford to stay in any of these. I was going to say, what hotels does he own? Oh, he owns some.

I can have a look. Probably places we'd never stay because they're ooh-la-la. Will you ever look at his entire portfolio of investment options and we'll boycott the lot. The lot. So there's this story in on Talkback they're going into graphic detail

are they? Yeah, about just how many times you know, women and lesbians are going to be caned to death and all these horrific things. And he goes oh wow. and I was like yeah it's just shocking isn't it and he was like well I guess if you disagree with what they're doing

to which I was like sorry David I'll stop you there yes I do disagree don't we all I think all sensible right thinking humans would disagree I tried in the 30 seconds left of the overtrip to convince him about LGBTQI plus rights.

So it was, yeah, just horrific. He wasn't having a bar of that? No. What was his initial wow? Was it? I thought it was like, wow, I can't believe this is happening in 2019. So you don't think that his follow-up,

it's shocking if you're opposed to it. He was also opposed to it, but he was also saying they don't think it's a big deal. Or you think regardless it was inappropriate. No, what I think he was meaning is like, if you disagree with what they were saying, then yeah, it is shocking. I don't know.

But either way, you felt it was not handled. He was homophobic. Then, yeah, it is shocking. I don't know. He was just... But either way, you felt it was not handled. He was homophobic. Oh, for sure. Right. Yeah, he did mutter under his breath about abortion rights as well and it was just a two-star ride.

Why two-star? I would have done one. I was going to do one but then I was like, I don't know if I want him to lose his job. I just want him to know that I'm really grumpy about it

and he really needs to sort it out. Wow. And then, you know, if this was to be discussed on Talkback, what we're discussing on Talkback, people would say it's his freedom of speech to say that. And then you could say, well, it's my freedom of speech to give him a one star. And then you just go down a long, long line of pointless conversations about stupid opinions that morons have.

Your freedom of speech to stand up against homophobes. Exactly. Yeah, and cost them their jobs. So I've just looked at what the Sultan of Brunei owns, the Dorchester Collection. And I actually have stayed at one of these hotels. He owns a couple of hotels in LA, the Bel Air and the Hollywood Hills Hotel,

the famous Hollywood Hills. Oh. So he stayed there for a movie premiere. Yeah. The movie company. He owns it. He owns the Hollywood. Yeah, the Beverly Hills Hotel.

Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, crazy. What else? He'll have other stuff, right? Yeah, apparently. This is the same. I'm pretty sure if you fly air Brunei,

can't he commandeer the plane at any time and you just, you have to give up your flight? Because he's just the king. Yeah, he's the king. He just decides when he wants the planes. He could be like, I need that.

And you're telling me the guy that lives in that extravagant, flamboyant castle with gold, like everything's got a problem with gay people? Why, because he's stolen their interior design? Yeah. Like, my God.

All right, Spy is coming up. Ariana Grande has... In good news, though, he's 72. He'll be dead soon. That's what, rest assured, if it's something like an old racist person's having a go, they'll be dead soon, so don't worry. Don't let them ruin your day. We're getting our flu vaccine as per...

I was wondering... At work. Because apparently they're giving it to people later this year because they want it to last longer. Last into the peak of the flu season, your August, September, Octobers. When do we normally get that? May? I can't have it. I feel it under the weather of the flu season. You're August, September, October. When do we normally get that? Oh, I can't have it. I feel it under the weather.

No, no. I think we usually have it around April. I think we do usually have it. Linda. Linda? Lydia pops in and gives it. Well, when it happens this year, I might bring my dog in for one as well. No, I won't.

Because I know that there's a difference between human vaccines and pet vaccines. I'm just being silly and segwaying nicely into the fact that anti-vaxxers have spread to pet vaccinations now. What? They're not vaccinating their pets? Yeah, yeah. Rising problem that vets are saying. It started out, it's not new, but it was a very, very small amount.

And it seems to be like the anti-vaccine movement, maybe gathering a bit of speed. What's the argument for not vaccinating your pets? They think it's the same as humans. They think they're vaccinating the pets to make them sick, so they'll have to go back to the vets, so vets can profit off

your animal's illnesses. Your animal would be better off without it. Let us know how that goes for you. Yeah, let us know what it's like when your dog dies of kennel cough or you want to go away and you need to put your dog into a kennel but you can't because it hasn't been vaccinated. Yeah. Yeah, let us know how that goes.

When your dog's sick and you're like, um. Yeah, when you have to do anything with your dog. Like anti-vaxxers. Show us your shots. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shots record. You want to bring your dog in here? Show us your little health booklet. And you're like, I don't shots. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shots record. You want to bring your dog in here? Show us your little health booklet.

And you're like, I don't have one. My dog's an anti-vaxxer. Because I don't want my dog to have autism. Yeah, that's the other thing. They seriously believe. Really?

It's mind-blowing. And the dog will get sick and they'll have to take it all back. Like when an anti-vaxxer's kids get measles and the kid's an absolutely innocent victim in it and the kid gets measles

and they're like, oh, does anyone know how to protect my child from measles? I think they're getting measles. What about the vaccine? Oh, gosh, no. Oh, heavens. I'd rather roll the dice on them dying of measles than not at all ever have them get autism. So, yeah, that's a thing that vets are going to have to contend with. Wow. Okay. Dogs struggling with kennel cough. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wow, okay.

Oh, did your dog get its vaccines? Oh, no, heavens. I couldn't risk my already wildly inbred pug having autism. Could I? Oh, heck no. I mean, I didn't think about the problems with the breeding program at all while purchasing this dog that I think is quite a designer breed now and looks nothing like it did 100 years ago,

but I shan't be giving it any injections. Oh, heavens no. You've got to remember that Flat Earth documentary, Warren. We're not supposed to ridicule. Oh, no, you can take the high ride. I'm in the muck. You're just ridiculing. I'll muck it up and ridicule, yeah.

But you can't argue. It's so hard to take a high ground. You can't argue with them, can you? No, no, no. Because do you know with them, can you? No, no. Because do you know the latest, the Flat Earthers, their latest thing is they're trekking. They want to trek to, is it the South Pole? Yeah. They want to get to the ice wall.

To get to the ice wall. Like they think it's Game of Thrones and there's a giant wall of ice. Just let them do it. And that's where the bottom of the dome is, I guess. That covers, well, some of them aren't. Well, they have to go up over the ice wall and that's the edge. Okay. And if they don't make it, it'll totally be because of the government conspiracy or something.

Yeah. Keep spinning them around in circles. From the ZM Think Tank, this is the Top Six. Hello there. An awards ceremony took place recently. It was known as the Crystal Cabin Awards, the Oscars for plane interiors. The Oscars for plane interiors.

Yes. I wonder if they had an award for that. You know like they have the panels at the front of the planes, you know, in the cabin? They always have those walls and they always have a really weird texture to them. Oh, look. I don't know. Maybe they're previous winners.

For wall texture. Cabinet tree. Cabinet texture. Maybe they were previous winners. Yeah, okay. I'm not exactly sure. Right. But the Skycouch won.

Yep. That won an award for the Greener Cabin Health, Safety and Environment category. Have you ever had one of those for your family? Yeah. Because I've never... Amazing. Like for the girls, the girls can lie down, legs out straight, right beside each other. Wow.

And sleep in like a double bed. That's crazy. Yeah. Okay. And then what do you do? Just scrunch up? Well, no. So we've only had it once and it was like the plane wasn't very full.

Oh, okay. And a lovely flight attendant said, two of you can come back here and two of you can go up there if you want. So Shada and I sat with a gap between us and the girls slept in front of us. Oh, yeah. On a sky couch. And they pretty much slept the whole flight. It was amazing.

Okay. It was amazing. So one of the other ones is actually, this is pretty cool, one of the other things that won, but just before we get into the top six. Airbus have invented

an area of a plane that's usually filled with like cargo for longer haul flights when they can start making like 20 hour flights and stuff. And it's going to be like a dormitory-style cabin situation. Okay. And it's all interchangeable. It literally slides out of the plane as one.

Right. And it's like, how would you describe that? It looks like a hostel, like it's all beds and bunks. It looks like one of those, you know those little hotels they have like the, what are they, Juicy, the pod hotels. The pod hotels. Like Tokyo pod hotels. I would be down for this on a long flight.

Just being able to lie down would be amazing. Do you reckon it would be up and above business class? Because there's not a lot of, oh, those doors slide shut maybe. I don't know. But yeah, it looks amazing. Oh, yeah. So if we're just going to, you know, shoot the shit and try to win an award for weird seats on planes. You've come to the right guy. Yeah, it looks amazing. Oh, yeah. So if we're just going to, you know, shoot the shit and try to win an award for weird seats on planes.

That's exactly. You've come to the right guy. Yeah, okay. Because I'm an ideas man. Yeah. So here we go. The top six ideas for airline seats after the Skycouch won an award. I want one.

Number six, office chair seats. Yeah. So those guys up in business can actually do some bloody business. Yeah. It shouldn't be called business anymore. It should be called sleep comfy and drink champagne before takeoff. I personally think. Yeah.

Instead. Number five on the list of the top six ideas for airline seats after the Skycouch won an award, and I wanted to win an award, the two-and-a-half-seat couch seat. We've got a two-and-a-half-seat couch. Awful. Right. It's two people sit on it, and you feel like there's too much room,

but you can't lie down with your legs out on it. If you're tall, if you're short, you probably could. And then you can't have three people on it. It's just a tease. It's like, oh, you could have a third, but you can't. Yeah, and then you've got your knees too. I don't know. It's a terrible couch, but why not?

Just chuck it on the plane. I don't want it in my lounge anymore. Right. Number four on the list of the top six ideas for airline seats, because I wanted to win an award, a bike seat. No. And the people who want could pedal and they power the air conditioning fans. Right.

What do they get out of it? Cheaper seats. Oh, my God. Exercise. Exercise. And instead of, like, fish or chicken, they could just have, like, a protein bar and a banana. There'd be some of those people that do the spin classes

that would actually do that all the way to Los Angeles. I would put it on real light, so it looks like I'm going hard out, but actually everyone else is carrying it. And you just read your women's magazine and do Sudoku. Yeah. Yeah. And someone opens the fan portal, and it's just like...

Because everybody's peddling hard back there because a good song just came on. Snoop Dogg, sweat. Number three on the list of the top six ideas for airline seats. White plastic chairs from the warehouse. Those ones you get for like $10. $10, but then if it's like a special,

you get them for like $6. And they've got those feet that come out so you can just screw them into the floor. And then if they break... Who cares? Get a new one. Who cares? Get a new one. Could you bring your own comfy cushion

for those? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're prone to hemorrhoids or whatever you might want to bring a ring seat. Yeah, okay. A ring cushion.

Okay. It's a long way to London is all I'm saying. Yeah. Number two on the list of the top six ideas for airline seats after the Skycouch

won an award. An ejector seat. Okay. It's all going badly. Yeah. Like the captain's like bing bong. Ladies and gentlemen, we are going to ditch into the ocean. Those of you who opted for today's ejector seat package,

feel free to hit those bad boys any time you like. Poof! Out the roof! I mean, probably really cold and really scary and we're go way too fast. I hope they adjusted the roof, otherwise you're just going to head first into... Shabu!

I like the sound of your ejector seat. Poof. Poof. Gentle. Poof. Poof. Come on. And the number one for today's top six ideas for airline seats

after the Skycouch won an award, and I want to have a weird idea that wins an award. Okay. The Iron Throne. Probably not iron because that's quite heavy

but you can do a lookalike but when you get on there's like a lucky dip like everybody every seat number is in a bingo ball and the air flight attendant

winds it and one ball comes out and they're like E17. Oh no that's not right. That can't be a seat number. Yes, it can. Yes, it can.

I was just through a minute there. I was like, planes aren't 17 seats wide, but they're E seats wide. Yep. Yep. 17E. And then 17E is like, and they come up and they get a crown and like a robe and they get to sit in the Iron Throne looking at all the passengers. Travelling backwards?

I don't like that on the train. I hadn't thought about that. They could go forwards if they wanted. Okay. They could go forwards. Up to them, the other king. Sure. Or queen.

That is today's top six. Joined in studio by New Zealander of the Year, Mike King. Hello. Oh, God. It's really hard to get used to that. We're really good as Kiwis to celebrate

our mates' victories and get them behind everyone else but when it's you, you go oh, that wasn't Barry. He did most of it. I was at the front. But Baz, he's the real one. Almost if someone got awarded New Zealand of the Year and they went out there and they're like,

thank you very much, I worked very hard for this, they'd take it back off them. Oh, no, everyone would go, oh, yeah, you're a bit up yourself, aren't you, mate? He's got a way. Come around with your fancy ways. Take his award off him. He thinks he deserves it.

New Zealand. But you've, I look back at Mike King in the year 2000. Oh, wow. Would he have won New Zealander of the Year? No, no. Especially with Newsboy, no way. No way, no, no. He was an arse, honestly.

Yeah. You know. What was your turning point? Because everyone kind of has a moment maybe. For me, it was in 2012. Sorry, beginning of 2013 when I was asked to go and speak uh to two schools in northland who'd lost five kids to suicide and um i was speaking to five five kids on suicide watch afterwards and um you know just talking to them and one of the kids there i said so why are you suicidal and he goes well first off i first off, I'm gay. And I was like, oh, well, you know, it must be really hard being gay

and, you know, a real staunch hero. I said, mate, I'm sweet with being gay. I go, so what's the issue? He goes, well, I'm sick and tired of how society sees me and I think what's the point of being here? And for me, that just went right through my heart because not only was I saying those words out loud, I was on radio, television, actively encouraging people

to say those words and it was really the first time that I realised that what I was saying was killing people. So at that point there I knew that, you know, something had to change. So, yeah. Wow, what a moment. A massive thing to be able to Correct yourself too Because I think When you do

Because We call people out on it If they're using gay As a derogatory term Yeah of course And you call it out on it And they're like It doesn't matter

It's just a word And they get very defensive About it But to be able to identify That in yourself And say what I've been doing Is completely wrong And from henceforth

I'm going to stop others Doing it as well That's pretty massive It was mind blowingblowing, honestly, you know. And some of these kids were telling me their stories about what their parents were doing. And, you know, I was going, oh, shit, I'd do that. I'd do that.

I'd do that. That was the first time that I actually realised, you know, young people, young people who listen to your radio station, there's nothing wrong with them. You know, my generation is going, listen to your radio station, there's nothing wrong with them. You know, my generation is going, what's wrong with these? There's nothing wrong with them. We're the problem. My generation is the problem.

Yeah. You know, how we talk to young people, how we speak to young people. You know, the only thing our kids really want is they want to know that their thoughts and opinions are valued by my generation and we don't do that. You know, all we're doing is constantly pointing out their mistakes, constantly telling them they're useless and constantly putting them down. Well, that's what, you know, that's what our work's all about.

It's about societal attitudinal change. I mean, at the moment, everything is crisis focused. If you're in crisis, ring this number. If you're in crisis, talk to someone. Well, the last 50 times I've been in crisis, the last thing I want to do is talk to anyone yeah you know you just go I'll just put on my mask and hide it and um so uh but where's the messaging to to people like us who are in a good space right now saying what are we doing to make it okay for our mates to talk what are we doing to make it okay

for a kid to come up say hey I'm struggling And the answer is we're not doing enough. So, you know, we need to take responsibility. You know, we as a nation need to take responsibility and, you know, actually go, you know, well, am I doing enough for my mates to come forward and say, you know, I'm struggling? What do you say to, because I see a lot on Facebook, especially people being like, we can't say anything these days without offending someone or hurting someone's feelings. What do you say to that?

Well, nine out of 10 times those people are hurting, you know. Yeah. People, see, people react in different ways, you know, just because, so, you know, it's that whole fight-flight response system. You know, some people will run into a corner and be really embarrassed and the other person will leap out of the box and come out swinging. That's that whole fight-flight response system. Some people will run into a corner and be really embarrassed and the other person will leap out of the box and come out swinging. That's that guy. So just because they're saying those things,

usually it's our defence mechanism. I was the king of that. When anyone used to attack me back in 2000, I'd come out swinging hard and pretend that I didn't care, but behind that confident, arrogant mask was a little boy who was just scared, you know, and that's how I stopped being scared. Just put on that mask and come out swinging. I think it's so cool that you say that. That's such an awesome message for guys, especially

that you come out and you're willing to admit that about yourself. Well, I cry in front of my kids now. I never thought I would ever do that. But one thing our kids need to see more than anything is vulnerability in the adults around them. Because if we're constantly being perfect in front of them, constantly telling them what to do, pointing out their mistakes, their inner critic's going, it's just you. You're the one that's not good. Everyone else is perfect. Having bad days, having suicidal thoughts doesn't make you mentally ill.

It makes you human. Everyone's human. So we've just got to normalise those things. And until we do, nothing's going to change. I mean, at the moment, the government only funds crisis. And if you fund crisis, what do you get? Crisis. Why? Because that's where the money is.

You know, no one works in our area. Why? Because the government doesn't fund our area. It's pretty simple. That's eye-opening. It is. It's been a very eye-opening chat with you this morning. Come in and tell us about gumboots, but there's so much more to it.

But it's kind of this Friday is culminating with the hashtag gumbootupNZ. Yep. And there's a way to raise money. Yeah. So the biggest problem in mental health right now is care for young people. So there's two things that happen. If you want to get funded counselling for your kid, you've got to go to a doctor

and the doctor has to make them mentally ill. Then you get into a line. Now, that line's really long. So there's stigma that you've got to go through. Yeah, sure, you've got to be labelled. Yeah, you've got to be labelled. So you're stigmatised straight away, then you're waiting in a queue. So we thought, well, why don't we just fund free care for kids

and that way, you know, our criteria is you've just got to be school age and then go along, find a counsellor and we'll pay for it. Really simple, you know, and so how are we going to raise that $2 million? So then we decided, well, why don't we have this thing called Gumboot Friday? You know, having depressions like walking through mud, let's all put on gumboots, walk through mud with people. So anyone who is having a hard time can see people in gumboots

and go, oh, people actually care. And at the same time, let's make a donation and see if we can't fund free counselling for our kids. And I just thought that's a really cool idea and the key to this whole thing is it's got to be fun yeah it's good because you know when you're mental health week it's like you're emotionally blackmailed to give money you know so oh god yeah I got to give it because you know and and all the messaging's dark well Gumboot Friday it's's specifically on the last Friday of Daylight

Saving. You know, that long last Friday, that long last Friday of summer. So, you know, it's specifically around there so we can all kick our heels and get in with our mates. You know, when you do these charity things, you know, how much is going to the charity and how much is going to the kids? 100% of the money goes to the kids. So we don't touch any money. The money goes straight into the Kiwi Bank Gumboot Friday account and it can only come out with an invoice

from a health professional. No accountant's invoices are accepted. And we're going to post the weekly total on social media and on the website so everyone can see exactly how much money's left. So it's a really cool concept. So if you do see a gumboot on a counter, throw a dollar in and you know that 100% of that dollar is going to go to the kids. If you're raising money, fill up a gumboot, take it into Kiwi Bank, just tip it over the counter. They can count money. That's what they

do. Just hand the money over and feel good about yourself. Awesome. And wear your gumboots. And wear your gummies, mate. I'll be wearing my hotter two freezing works gumboots tomorrow. I actually wore it earlier in the week. I was out in a paddock with goats, and people were giving me arseholes about wearing freezing works boots,

not red bands, but steel-tied. You can't beat them. You can't beat them, mate. You can't beat them. They last forever. Meat works boots, not red bands, but still, Toad, you can't beat them. Can't beat them, mate. Can't beat them. They last forever. Meat works boots are so good. Mike, thanks so much for coming in, man.

Love you guys. Thank you so much. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. We're actually, to be honest, in awe of Mike King, who we've just had in. What an incredible man. Obviously, New Zealand River, and that's why he's won it for his work with youth and helping mental illness. I interviewed him when I worked at Hamilton in 2003,

and he was doing a comedy tour. And I saw the comedy, and I was a bit like, who? Even I, as a 21-year-old, was like, some of that was a bit far. You're right. And interviewed him, and it was fine, but of that was a bit far. You're right. And interviewed him and it was fine. But like, he is a changed man. Like he self-admitted afterwards. I was like, you've changed so much.

And he was like, oh yeah, yeah, 100%. I used to be a complete a-hole, but yeah. It was like an eloquent, sobering chat. And I'll tell you what, that's one of the best hugs I've had from a guest ever. Big hug. Just like a good, genuine big hug. So Gumboot Day is tomorrow, so wear your gumboots to work if you can and check today if work will let you.

I'm sure they will. I mean, it's a great cause. Lots of ways for you to donate. Maybe put a gum, even if you just take a gumboot to work and everyone throws some money in, take it to Kiwi Bank. Yeah, because Kiwi Bank, the bank associated, so you can just take it into a Kiwi Bank store and say, hey, we've raised money for Gumboot Friday.

And it'll go straight into the account. It'll go into an account, straight into an account. They'll help you deposit that straight into an account. There is a give a little as well that you can go to, to donate. Right.

Yeah. Got Gumboots for tomorrow? Cause I'm going to put a poll up. I'm going to have to get my photo because recently I have put a couple of Instagram photos up out playing with goats and I've got my different gumboots on. And there's a big, at the moment, there's a big gumboot off as between do I wear my red band gumboots tomorrow?

The classic sort of quintessential Scalar Up red band gumboots. Or do I wear my AFCO Meatworks gumboots? They're white or they're kind of off-white now. Which you were gifted. And I was gifted. Went to Palmerston North for a party. This is the story. And someone was like I heard you really wanted some Meatworks boots. And I was like yeah. And they were like size 11 right? And I was like yes. And they were like wait there. And I went into the car and came back

and I'm like here you go. And they are straight up. So those would be it was 2005. I got given those boots. So there are people listening to the show in the car right now who are younger than the gumboots I own. And that's still the test of time. They are a mighty gumboot. So I might wear those because they've got also,

they've got like, because meat workers are on their feet all day. They've got more of an orthopedic heel in them. Oh, okay. And I would totally be open to receiving a new pair. Well, that time we went to Wild Foods, we got given some red bands so that we could go undercover and not look like Aucklanders. We did, though, because they were brand new.

I wore red bands I already had, but everybody else wore brand new shiny red bands. And matching brand new swannies. They all knew. They knew, didn't they? It's like they could smell us. But I've still got, I reckon I'd be the only person

living in like an apartment that has gumboots. Redbands? Yeah, they're tucked away somewhere. What about people who live in apartments that have to walk through puddles and stuff? What do they wear? Just normal shoes, I think.

Unreal. I'll bring them in tomorrow. I know, I'm going to bring my redbands too. And Indy, my daughter needed a new pair of gumboots because I'm pretty sure her school's doing it. So Sade took her yesterday to get some new gumboots and Sade sent me a photo saying,

please talk your daughter out of these. And I was like, I shan't, they're absolutely beautiful. They're purple and pink leopard print gumboots. Oh my God. Like West Auckland shack. Yeah,

West Auckland shack. Like, West Auckland shack. Like, she's going to be able to go to, like, West City or, like, the Henderson train station, and she is going to be on point fashion wise. And so I was like, they're beautiful. Buy them for her, please. But your wife was like... These are horrible. I was like, she's wearing them, like, tomorrow to school.

Otherwise, when's she going to wear them in public? To like a park or whatever? This is true. She's seven. Welcome one, welcome all to the Fletch, Vaughan and Megan podcast. Brought to you by Spark. Get four gigs of bonus data on Spark's $49 prepaid value pack. Now, on with the podcast.

When you think of falling in love, I mean, apart from it being awesome, like the actual love part, you think of like kind of going a bit cuddly. Like you fall in love. And you get comfy. Everyone thinks that, okay, well, now you don't need to go out anymore. You sit on the couch and you watch Netflix and you eat pancakes together. You get fat together. You find some of the little family pack of Nando's

and a half a cheesecake cheesecake with you. That's what me and Sade used to do. There's new research that suggests this might not be the case because no one's ever really studied the effect of oxytocin on the body. They know that it's a love hormone and it makes you feel good.

Yeah. But how it affects like physicality of the body and it might actually curb your cravings for high fatty foods. So it gives you a rush. So when you fall in love, you feel a rush and you feel smitten and lust and all that kind of stuff.

That's the oxytocin. So when you fall in love, you have so much of a rush from that, you don't feel the need for fatty food. I guess it breaks down too. But they've done tests where they've got larger individuals,

shall we say, and they've given them doses of oxytocin. And when they see high calorie foods, they're less inclined to eat it. But I thought

that's the thing. You meet someone, you fall in love and you eat loads of lollies on the couch. You're like, gotcha. Because you're like,

don't care. Gotcha. Hi, Jim, yep, cancel it. I'm not, yep, no. I'm in with Az. I'll pay the final month. Cancelcha. Because you're like, don't care. Gotcha. Hi, I'm Jim. Yep, cancel it. I'm not, yep, no. Yep, I'm in with it as I'll pay the final month. Cancel it. See you.

Yeah, because the oxytocin is released from the love that you have. Producer Caitlin, do you have a rush of oxy, what's it called? Oxytocin. Oxytocin. With my boyfriend. Yeah. So I'm not, I don't actually know if I'm in love yet. We're still, I'm still deciding that.

It's early days. With basic breath. But this is the opposite of me and my boyfriend because last night we literally sat on the couch and watched Netflix and ate pizza. Yeah, see, I think it's oxytocin. Oxytocin. Oxytocin.

But maybe when I start getting real skinny, you'll be like, she's in love. I'm so excited for that. This would be if nothing else changed though, right? Like if you were, like obviously if your diet changes. Do you know what I mean? No, I don't. I don't.

No, bro. No, but say you're just carrying on. You're just living your life as per usual and then you get your oxytocin. You fall in love. Oxytocin. Yeah, oxytocin, and that releases, and you just keep the same diet and the same exercise regime. Well, you're getting more exercise, aren't you?

What? Gross. Gross. Yeah. I didn't. That's just what people say to me, and I'm like, that's gross, but I am getting more exercise. And so far they've said there's no reported side effects of oxytocin.

So they might be developing like nasal sprays and stuff. Imagine if the key to weight loss just ended up being a nasal spray. That would be amazing. But then would it make you fall in love with something like an inanimate object? Love potion. Like love potion. It's not a love potion. It just releases the feeling of being in love.

You go to the pharmacy, squirt some up your nose, walk out, and all of a sudden you're in love with a lamppost. What if that happened? But then you'd be skinny, so it'd be all right. Or the pharmacist. Or you fall in love with the pharmacist and you never see their legs because they're always behind this. They don't even have legs.

Some of them don't have legs. Some of them don't have legs. The hover pharmacist. And now you're in love with one. How are you supposed to go for a hike with a hover pharmacist? They can't hover on uneven ground. No, they hover up the mountain. No, they don't.

They can't hover uneven. That's why it's a flat surface behind the serving counter. They've got to stay on a tiled area. I've always wondered if a hover pharmacist could go hiking. Turns out not. And I tell you what, don't take them to the beach. Okay. They can't swim.

It'll short out their hover. You're like, come on in, the water's fine. They're like, you know I'm a hover pharmacist. I can't come down there. Don't they just hover above the water? No, no, no, no. Don't be silly. We're not there technology-wise yet.

Maybe it will advance in the future and we can have a day at the beach with a hover pharmacy. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. It is the battle of the chicken casseroles and pot pies. In studio is my mum, Ray Ray. Who's come up from Nelson.

Did you have to check this casserole onto the plane or did you? No, no. We made it last night. Right. Okay. It's nice and fresh. With local ingredients. We'll put biscuits the plane or did you? No, no, we made it last night. Right, okay. It was nice and fresh. With local ingredients. Biscuits up instead. Did you? Choccy Chippy Biscuits. Sorry. Where are they? You know I love your chocolate chip biscuits. She's got them.

Typical. Unbelievable. I don't have to share those. She should not be selling them for a profit at a bloody cafe and not giving you a slice. I know, he said three dollars at the cap and I was thinking how do I... There's about twenty of them, I'm thinking. Well, your pie is...

Casserole is very famous. A lot of people have asked us for the recipe. Yep. And a man that you're taking on today with his very own recipe, Josh Embert, is in studio. Good morning. Morning, how are you? Very good, thank you.

Ray Ray said she's a little nervous, Josh, to be honest. Well, actually, the one thing I just thought about is I've got the home advantage and you've had to cook in someone else's kitchen, not your own, which is always a bit more difficult, right? So, you know, you're up again. We did have a few problems. Had to have a few sips of the wine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

It was quite nerve-wracking. Well, we're going to taste these next. We're going to go live on Instagram too, aren't we? Yeah. So next we're going to, it's your chicken casserole. Now, what have you made, Josh? You've made something from your new, now we're all debating, do you call this a cookbook or a recipe book?

Totally, yeah, a cookbook. So I've been working on that for the last couple of years. It's actually called The Recipe, and we've got 150 chefs from around the world i've called on to contribute recipes so 25 percent of mine and and uh the rest are particular recipes from chefs who specialize in those uh in the particular recipes i guess and they're all classic recipes so they're all recipes you should cook once in your lifetime you've got three gordon ramses i've got a few gordon ramsay recipes in there i've got three Gordon Ramsay's. I've got a few Gordon Ramsay recipes in there. I've got Martha Stewart, Rick Stein, Nigel Slater. It's an incredible list.

It is a mind-blowing list. Not to mention some incredible chefs that are probably less well-known. And next cookbook, you could have Ray Winslet. Totally. Oh, my God. That would be good, eh? I'm so excited about this. When I did see that online, actually, I was like, oh, my God, that pie looks amazing.

It really was. All right, well, we're going to come back next. So we'll be live on our Instagram, FVMZM, and we're going to do the taste test. Josh, your chicken pie against Megan's mum's chicken cassie, the world famous. Well, it's here. The battle of Ray Ray's chicken cassie.

World famous. Megan, you were brought up on this. I was brought up on this. This is my favourite thing my mum makes. Her chicken casserole. It's what I have when I go home. We've been hearing about it for years. We finally broke them.

And on a recent trip to Nelson, enjoyed it immensely, didn't we? Yes, we did. At the Salis family home in the home kitchen. And we are going to release the recipe because people have been harassing us for it. In fact, after the show, I believe you're filming a how-to. Is that news to you?

She's not a fan of cameras, so we kind of kept that quiet. Don't do photographs or autographs. Me and my mum are going to get in the kitchen and film it. This battle will be pitting your chicken casserole, Ray Ray, against Josh Emmett's. What is this called in the book, the recipe? Chicken pot pie.

And it's actually from, the recipe's from an English guy, Australian guy living in England called Bruce Poole, who runs an amazing restaurant in London called Shea Bruce. He's been there for years. Okay. So no pressure, Ray Ray. It's up against a renowned world international chef. These both look...

You know, there's a similarity here. There is actually. I had a wee cheeky look at it. Chicken. Had a wee sneaky look at the recipe and it's very... I mean, I don't think that Josh's recipe has mayo in it, but...

And it didn't have wine. No wine? No wine. No wine. No wine in mine and definitely no mayo, but I

like the mayo. There's Samaritan mayo, definitely. I'd imagine if you'd add mayo, Josh, you'd make it yourself. You wouldn't use

like a Beast Foods. Well, you'd think so, but you know, sometimes you've got to go down and dirty, don't you? To really sort of get, you know, get in there. What about the shortcuts? Okay, well, we're live on our Instagram, FBMZM. We have a plate each, two plates.

A and B. I'm going in for A. Are we doing this now? Are we all going to do A? Are we going to do this? We're doing A. Okay. Well, I, this is, I kind of already know which is which, because, you know. I do too, because I can taste the wine doing A. Okay. Well, I, this is, I kind of already know which is which because, you know.

I do too because I can taste the wine in A. That has never been shy. That has not been shy on the wine. That is. I feel like this is more wine than last time, right? If we're honest. Did you get a bit excited? Mother's little helper, he said, I think we need a little bit more wine.

She's talking about my husband. I was going to say, is that too much wine? He said, it's we need a little bit more wine. She's talking about my husband. I was going to say, is that Toyboy? He said, it's just got a little bit more zing. Was it nice to see Toyboy again? Because you like giving him a pinch on the bum, don't you? Yeah, I do. What about James? Because you took quite a fancy to James, our producer.

I've already given him a smooch. Have you? Good. Okay, so obviously now we're trying B and we know, okay, right. There's a bit of pastry on this one. Oh, the pastry looks good. Really good pastry. This is hard for me.

Oh my God. They're both really good. But different, really different. Oh my God, Mum. I'm sorry. Wow. Megan, are you going to be torn here? Because you grew up on the chicken cassie.

So. And, you know, Josh has come all the way in and made this. You know how you can really like, like, an eye fillet steak with a fancy sauce and stuff, but you also really like just a burger? Mm. So I think there's a time and place for both of them. But, my Lord, there's some flavour to that, isn't there? Did you get a chunk of mushroom

in your beak? Yes! I was just about to say because that was hidden under the pastry for me because I'm going back for another mouthful because I found a mushroom.

I don't know if this is good radio just listening to people eat food, but wow, both incredible. It smells so good in here, doesn't it? It does, doesn't it?

Yeah. Ray, Ray, do you want to try Josh's recipe? Do you want to try this? Because I just think You should try this Before we deliver our verdict

See what you think Ray Ray I need to try I need to try his Yes please Oh no Get into it It's very whiny

There is a lot of wine Now Ray Ray What do you think Of Josh's one there It's lovely Oh yes That's very nice Okay so

I might let you have my recipe if you let me have yours. Totally. Well, you're going to have to buy the book, though. I've got a book for you, Ray-Ray. I've got a book. Don't worry about that. We've got you sorted. No, that is nice.

Ray-Ray, would you be upset if we voted for Josh's recipe? Oh, only half pie. Half pie upset. Half pie upset. And she's like scoffing his pie. Yeah, she's like... Oh, only half pie. Half pie upset. Half pie upset. And she's like scoffing his pie. Yeah, she's like, oh, no, that's nice.

Yes, I think we have to say he's a winner. Oh, my God. I actually came here fully prepared to lose today. You know that, don't you? Because I've, you know, and yours is absolutely amazing.

I've got to say, it's a delicious recipe. The corn chips are the, yeah, yeah, totally. And they're very similar, aren't they? There's not. The corn chips are the, yeah, yeah, totally. And they're very similar, aren't they? There's not, there's not,

yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. One's bougie and one's bougie. Yes. Very much so. Might have been, it might have been

the tarragon I put in it. Is that what it is? Yeah. I grew it myself as well, so it's the only thing I'm capable of growing. Oh, goodness. That's just it.

Oh, that's what it is. So what are we? I don't know. It's starting. I feel like, I can't even look, I of growing. Oh, that's what it is. So what do we... It's exciting. I can't even look. I can't. Megan, you do it. She's your mum. And it doesn't have to be a winner, does there?

Well, no. Yeah, I think... Well, no, because one's like... Everybody's a winner. Everyone's a winner, but, you know, there's a time and a place for both of them. Mum, Josh won, okay? But your pie's really good.

That was ruthless. I can't believe you did that to your own mother. Megan's mum's not going to tell her off in front of her friends, but when it's just them, she's going to get told off for that. Yeah. Silence. We didn't have corn chips.

That's what it was missing. There is corn chips. They were covered in melted cheese. Ray, how do you feel? Well, we did say last night when we were making it, we were under a lot of pressure, and there was something not quite right when we were making it, wasn't it? Yeah.

The balance of flavours was off. I think it was the pressure. It felt like, you know, a cooking show. There was a lot of pressure. It just didn't seem right. And then we didn't think we had enough sauce, so we made some more, And then we had a wine. I can see where this went wrong.

And then Mother's Little Helper on the other side of the bench said, oh, I think it needs a bit more of this. So we thought, a bit more of this. So, yeah. They were both delicious and we were very lucky to have had both delicious dishes this morning. What a good sport. Hey, we do have some copies of Josh's book to give away the recipe.

And so if you just text the recipe to 9696, we'll draw out three random texts and we'll send those out to you. And you can try this delicious pie yourself. Oh, my God, it's amazing. Josh Emmett, thank you so much for coming in. Pleasure. I need to say a quick hello to my boys, Finn and Louis. They're listening at home

as they do every morning and I've also bought you some carrot cake for dessert because you need some sweetness after Yes I'm going to post that recipe on Instagram tonight

for you as well so boom boom And also if you find like I did your wife or loved one going

watching their fun and you're a bit like, who are you watching? And they're like, Josh. And you're like, who's this bloody Josh guy? It's actually just Josh Emmett's amazing amount of delicious recipes on the gram. That cools it a little bit. But then, that extractor fan of yours that hides away? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's cool. We actually did that so we could shoot easily in the house when we shoot recipe books, so there's nothing hanging down above. But it's a beautiful piece of yeah. It's cool. We actually did that so we could shoot easily in the house when we shoot recipe books, so there's nothing hanging down above. But it's a beautiful piece of kit. It's nice. I'm very lucky. You gotta get one, basically. Oh, yeah. Sell one of your goats and get one of those or something. Josh, they're my friends.

Alright, Josh, Ray, Ray, thank you so much. And we are gonna shoot today the recipe with Megan's mum to get that recipe for the Cassie out into public. Thanks, Ray Ray. Thank you, Josh. Thanks, Anya. So apparently if Donald Trump does close the border,

America will last a week and then it'll run out of avocados. But guacamole. Like seriously, no guac. Do white trash like guacamole? Everyone loves guacamole. Donald Trump doesn't care. He just likes burgers, doesn't he? Yeah, I'd say so.

And he eats pizzas with a knife and a fork. He's a monster, basically. Don't worry about avocados. Just get Josh Emmett's chicken pie. It's almost all gone. Do you know Megan's mum, you've just had a read of the recipe, Ray Ray. It's very similar to your famous chicken cass, which you've just lost against Josh Emmett.

But you're not upset by it, are you? No, because we had fun making it and the wine was... The wine was the hero. And, yeah, it was a no brainer really The recipes are very similar It's just that A little bit of tarragon And the wine

And he doesn't have mayo and wine Yeah But he has tarragon Yeah Like He said it was home grown So We can't compete with that

I'd say I'd say it was quite a Nice fresh bunch of tarragon I mean it's all very And it's all very similar I'd say it was quite a nice, fresh bunch of tarragon. I mean, it's all very similar. I mean, when I read the recipe, and the pastry on the top. Oh, God, look at the pastry. We're going to get the recipe up for Megan's mum's famous chicken casserole this week.

But you didn't mention the carrot cake that he brought home. Look at that. Notice how close it is over here. Get into it, Rai Rai. You deserve it. It was quite tense though, wasn't it? What do you mean by that? Because he's a good looking man. The sexual tension was...

Because he's a bit of a hunk. He is a good looking man. I felt quite nervous. God, I can see where Megan gets it from now. Because the saying has always been you can't trust a skinny chef, but he's in great nick, isn't he? And I trust him. He had broad shoulders. And he gave you a cuddle too. I know, I groped him quite tight.

We'll have to apologise for that later. I didn't realise it was his wife out there. I thought it was just his agent or something. No wonder she gave me the filthies when I walked past. My mother, everyone. You see where Megan gets it from now. Yeah, you do. All right.

Flesh, fawn and Megan. The podcast. ZM. An Australian mum has shared her roster. The family roster. You know, for chores. Did you ever have these growing up? Do you mean like a chore list?

No, we were just kind of told to bloody well do it. Set the table. Yeah, get the table set. Rubbish needs taking out. If I'm going to be completely honest, it was rubbish needs burning. But that doesn't... And look, it was the 90s.

It was different back then. Well, this is Australia's largest family, hence the need for a roster. The mum has shared the roster and chores for her family of 16. Children? No. She is a mum of 16. Yeah, how many were made by her?

Reproductive parts. She's not adopted a whole lot. I'm unsure, but how many were made by her reproductive parts? Or she's not adopted a whole lot? I'm unsure, but she's 50. And from age eight, they're on chore duty. Oh, God. I thought you said she's 50. From age eight, she started having babies. No.

This is bad. So the youngest is eight. Yeah. So she created the system when there were only seven children in the family to stay organised. And the dad way... See, if she's organised enough to have seven children doing chores, is she not organised enough to stop having children? Yeah.

I mean, it's up to her. She can do what she wants. And these kids don't look like they've gone without. Like, they're all healthy. There's a photo of them and they are all healthy looking and wealthy. Apparently the 12-year-old can rock a roast dinner just fine. Wow. No, this is the problem.

The kids are doing the chores. Her and the husband are at a loose end. They're like, well, we've got 15 minutes. Should we go and make another one? Make another one. So here's a picture of them. You would literally need one of those imported, you know, those mini Japanese buses.

Buses. Yeah. That do little guided tours. They all look happy and healthy. Yeah, that's what I'm, yeah, yeah. 16, though. Like, you'd forget, like, my mum can't even, she has to run through 10 names until she gets.

God, it's my name sometimes. Naming a child is hard. Yeah. Like, naming a child's quite something. She's doing it 16 times. Heck. You'd literally have to do head counts when you go anywhere. I was trying to see some of the names, but the roster's too small.

What's your grocery bill like? Oh, God. Oh, yeah. Wouldn't even think. You wouldn't have a dog, eh? Like, you'd never get taken to McDonald's. Could you imagine that? Like, buying 16 kids a Happy Meal?

That's your idea of the worst part of being a big family. Can we go to McDonald's? No, there's 16 of us. It'll cost a fortune. This is easily the worst part about this family. So I thought this morning, could we take some calls? Like, how big is your family?

Like, do we have any families here in New Zealand that would be 16? No, surely not. Not nowadays, but back in the day, you had to have heaps of kids because half of them died. Sadly, yeah.

Infant mortality rates were way higher back then. Thanks to medical advances and stuff. We don't have clean drinking water. We don't have that as much anymore. But, and you, like when you move to a country like New Zealand and it's development period, they needed as many people in this new country as possible. So people were encouraged to have large families.

Ten kids, yeah. You don't hear about it anymore. But I want to hear from people that are from a large family and like their parents forget their names or leave them behind on a road trip because there's 16 of them and they've just, you know, left Timmy behind. You'd have to resort to fruit or something, wouldn't you?

Apple, orange, banana. To name the kids. Oh, to name them, yeah. I thought you were saying to feed them fruit. I'm like, have you seen how much fruit costs? No, you go to Countdown and get that free basket of fruit the kids. Oh, to name them, yeah. I thought you were saying to feed them fruit. I'm like, have you seen how much fruit costs? No, you go to Countdown and get that free basket of fruit for kids. Oh, God, they'll see the family coming.

They'll be like, quick, grab the fruit basket. They're going to clean us out. All right, so I'll add $100 at M9696. How big is your family? And did you ever get to go to McDonald's? Fletch needs to know. Is there something that we don't know about being in a big family? Yeah, like did you miss out on something or do you, you know?

Yeah, Happy Meals. Like did you start your own rugby team? Or indoor netball? You have a whole team already. Touch. You could have a full touch team versus a full touch team. Mother in Australia has gone viral because of her roster system for her 16 kids. 16 kids.

So a family of 18. Yeah. Imagine. That's another thing. Somebody messaged in because we kind of want to know about big families and how many there are. Maybe something we don't know about a big family. They said they are from a big family. Yeah.

12 kids. They were never alone. Like they never had alone time. Alone time just wasn't something that happened. Sam, you've called and you're from a family of how many? 12. 12. And so same as the person that texted, did you get alone time ever?

No. Was it just not the room and a house for alone time or just you never experienced it so you never needed, no, you wanted it? Oh, no, we were all born pretty much about a year or two apart, so we were all together all the time. Are you, where do you fit into the 12, middle, oldest? I'm the second oldest.

So you wouldn't have got a lot of hand-me-downs then? Yeah, actually, my older brother, because I'm a tomboy, my older brother, I got all of his stuff, which was cool because he was always into the brand. But if you were youngest of 12, you'd be getting all the hand-downs all the time. Oh, yeah, well, my little brother, he's 11 now, so he loves it.

Do you now enjoy a bit of alone time or do you feel like you always have to be surrounded by lots of people? Yeah, no, I feel like it's better if you're around more people. I've got so many questions. What about at Christmas? Do you all have to buy each other a Christmas present

or do you just draw one name out of the hat? Yeah, no, we do a secret Santa. Okay, okay. And you said before that your older brother was into brands and he got brands. With 12 kids, how do you afford brands? Well, our parents are dairy farmers, so we're all

dairy farmers now. Yeah. Right, okay. What about did they ever take all 12 kids to McDonald's? This is my big question. So, yeah, usually we go through the drive-thru and you know how you get the family packs? Well, we usually just get three of those.

Three family packs. Can I have three family packs? Can I say that I am impressed that you didn't all individually order because that would have meant the person behind you would have been waiting for like 12 hours. Like you made it a simple mass order. We didn't all individually order because that would have meant the person behind you would have been waiting for like 12 hours.

Like you made it a simple mass order. We didn't get the option. Our parents just said, this is what you're getting. Wow. And can people believe you've got, you know, like 11 brothers and sisters? Well, they did when we all went to school. But when you find a partner and you tell them

you've got 12 siblings, they're like, oh, oh my my God, is that, like, adopted or to the same dad? Yeah, wow. My dad was a dairy farmer. He was always too busy. He was so always working. I don't want to know, actually. Wow, all right. Mum would pop down, I'm just going to go help your father with milking.

Sam, thank you for your call. Chelsea, your mum is from a big family? Yep, yep. She sure is. How many? One of 14. And so you've got a lot of aunties and uncles. Yeah, so there's seven boys and seven girls.

Have you met all your cousins? No, some of them live over in Australia and predominantly in Christchurch and we're up in Auckland. But I am close with, some of them live over in Australia and, um, predominantly in Christchurch. Um, and we, we're up in Auckland, but, um, I am close with a couple of them, but not all of them. That's crazy. Cause it would be the, a family reunion or a gathering would be ginormous.

Uh, it would have been. Yeah. Oh, you wouldn't invite everybody to the wedding. You just couldn't. Could you? Um, Chelsea, thanks for your call. Jess, your granddad was from a big family. How many?

22. 20? Your granddad. So it would have been going back a while, though. Yeah, so they were Irish Catholics. Yeah. So my granddad was one of 22, and then my granny was one of 14. No wonder there was a potato famine.

Potatoes can't keep up with the Irish. No. Wow. That's nuts, isn't it? Was this in, did they have that big family in New Zealand or was that back in Ireland? So that was back in Ireland. And then most of them immigrated out to New Zealand.

And then some of them stayed behind. But when they were growing up, it was sort of six or eight to a double bed, top and tailing. Oh, my God. Wow. I guess you'd have to because you'd need a mansion. Like that one 50 Cent was trying to sell for 10 years. Yeah, 12 years on the market.

With like 12 bedrooms or whatever. How many bedrooms has it got 50 Cent? 12 bedrooms. That case can go two to a room. We'll take it. How much? Oh, God, no, that's too much money. Thanks to you, cool. called Jess some text messages.

So a guy at my work has 32 kids. 15 are biologically his. Yeah. The rest are adopted. How? It's quite hard to adopt in New Zealand. And would they let you adopt if you just keep collecting them all? They're not Pokemon, mate.

I mean, great. He's adopting kids that would have otherwise. And you'd have to check they're not in cages, like cage chickens. Yeah. Free range. Where's the room for all that? Yeah, he's not putting them to work, is he? Like a sweatshop.

That's a good plan. My grandmother was one of 24. How does a vagina do that? Literally, my legs just crossed. I'm not sure, Vaughn. Having one myself. Megan's mum's just got out of her seat. She had two.

Was that enough? That's 12 times. 12 times what you did. It would never be the same. No. No, you're right. It wouldn't be the same. It wouldn't be. That's crazy. It would never be the same. No. No, you're right. It wouldn't be the same. It wouldn't be. That's crazy. It would never be the same again. My mum had 11 children.

Somebody says they're one of 11 kids. Somebody said, we've got 10 children. I've left kids behind at daycare twice and when I left kids behind at school, they just ended up putting them in an after school touch team. So it's a good way to get your kids into sport just to forget to pick them up. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.

Today's fact of the day is that we has half of the world's roundabouts really france has half of the world's right of all the roundabouts in the world blenheim had a quarter of them at least well yeah blenheim's the second in this pie chart yeah who has the most roundabouts uh and France also, per thousand inhabitants. Yeah. You know, like a per capita. Yeah. We always do really good on a per capita.

Yep. They smash us. Oh, really? France, even with their much larger population, have a higher per capita number of roundabouts. Because the most famous is the Arc de Triomphe. Yeah. And you just gun it in and people just make room for you, eh? Oh, that's terrifying.

Why, did you want us to stop down and appreciate how good your French was? Thank you. Because she said it and then she held her own chest. I was like, good Lord, I said that well. She's like, oh, you are. There's no road markings. You just go in. Yeah.

Like when you ride an Uber or whatever in there, you're like, oh my God, I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. And then you get out somehow. It's nuts. Madness. Yeah, it is. There's no lanes. I've never been to. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. And then you get out somehow. It's nuts. Madness. There's no lanes.

I've never been to France. I don't know anything about it. I've seen photos of people pretending to pinch the Eiffel Tower. Right. Some of us haven't done extensive Eurovision. You simply must hold up the... Oh, yes. No, madame, I shall. Oh, no.

Yeah, definitely. Sounds great. I haven't. I mean... Tell me about your Kentucky great. I haven't. Tell me about your Kentucky tour. Why don't you show me a slideshow of all your great stops on your 16 day tour of Europe. I mean,

all of our other friends have done it too. I didn't, but sure, I'll sit through another presentation. Tell me about the bear hauls. Hey, there's no need to be jealous, mate. I'm not jealous. I'm not jealous. You can go when your kids leave home. You and Sade can do a Kentucky. Oh, we can't go on a Kentucky.

Oh, my God. We're matching tracksuits. You can be the only 60-year-olds doing Kentucky. You can get bum bags with your name on it. Or Mr. and Mrs. That'd be pretty cute. Yeah. That'd be pretty bougie.

Yeah. Is that why I said the right one? Yeah. Because I always say bougie. I know. But that's like saying budget Frenchly. Yeah, I know. Yeah.

Frenchly. Okay. Frenchly. Okay. Frenchly in a French manner. But, you know, one day maybe the one third of the show that hasn't been in France will be gone. I'll have to go with like Willamette Travel, though. What the... Where are the baby boomers going? Who does the rugby tours?

I don't want to go on a rugby tour. It's your Graham Henry or something. No, I don't want that. When you get tours? I don't want to go on a rugby tour. It's your Graham Henry or something. No, I don't want that. When you get older. I don't want that. It'll probably be Dan Carter doing those by the time you get to retirement. Oh, wow. Imagine that.

And Richard McCaw will be there. See, he'll be half robot. Right. Because his knees will have finally totally shat themselves. Yeah. Yeah. Unless he's turned into a hover pharmacist. Oh, he will.

He will. But that will have advanced technology. You'll be able to take your hover pharmacist to the beach. If you were listening to the show before, that makes no sense. It didn't make sense then either. It didn't make sense at the time. But we did find out that some pharmacists, because you can't see their legs, are hovering.

They're hovering. Yeah, they're hovering. Someone actually texted me a message. They're pharmacists. Old school. They're still on a pulley system. So they're on like a trolley and they have to pull the strings

to get themselves back and forward to the different sorts of pillows. Right. And if they spin, they have to spin the trolley. Like one of those things that are playground. Yeah.

Well, look next time you're at the pharmacy. They never have legs. My brother's a pharmacist. He had to have his legs amputated. Right. Congratulations. Your bachelor degree in pharmacy.

And here's your painkiller. What's happening? We're amputating. Congratulations. Your bachelor degree in pharmacy. And here's your painkiller. What's happening? We're amputating your legs. You hover now. So today's fact of the day is over half of the world's roundabouts are in France. Fact of the day, dayughan and Megan, the podcast. Just a slight spoiler alert, if you're not up to date with Shortland Street, we're going to ruin something for you next.

You said you gave me a fright there. I was like, block your ears. We're joined on the phone right now by Tane Williams. Good morning, Tane. Good morning. how are we? Good, you play Ali on short Well, played Played Ali on short

Yes, now officially past tense Wow, okay How long were you on the street for us trying to work it out? It's been a while, hasn't it? Man, close to four years man, about three and a half years Wow So, when did you finish shooting this? You've had to keep this a secret.

Yeah, I've had to keep it a little bit deload for the past like six weeks because that's how far ahead shooting is on screen. Yeah. So when you check out of Shortland Street, What was that? Say that again? When you check out of Shortland Street, excuse the pun, when you leave the show uh do they give you like a statistical breakdown of like you survived this

many bomb attacks or like this many volcanoes yeah they should you were there for the great volcanic eruption that they could yeah i was there for a lot the council of ferndale need to be commended how well and quickly they restored the town to running order with little to no memory of the event.

Yeah, absolutely. I know. It's crazy what Ferndale goes through, eh? I would never move there. Like, Tarnate would never live in Ferndale. I don't think anybody would.

I think it would be condemned. Yeah. It's going to be fenced off. It's like Chernobyl. Yeah, exactly. They'd do tours of Ferndale, but you couldn't stay for too long because chances are something really bad would happen. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. So what was your favourite, over the four years you've been at Shorty then, what was your favourite storyline that Ali was involved in? There were a few that I really enjoyed. Like kind of close to when I first started, there was the whole Lucy Rickman and her father storyline where he was in all this trouble and we got to play around with explosions

and that stuff was all pretty epic. But it's been awesome. Jaden Daniels, who played Curtis, is one of my best mates. So it was really cool to do like storylines with him and stuff. But yeah, there were so many. I can't name them all.

I had so much fun on that show. So what now? Where will we see you popping up now? Well, I moved straight on to an American feature film, which was great. I shot that in Fiji for two weeks. I can't give away any information on name or anything. That sounds awful.

Yeah, and I put up in a resort for three weeks, you know. Yeah, terrible. Terrible, yeah. So that was what I moved on to next. And yeah, now I'm just kind of floating and working on myself and looking for the next opportunity. I make music as well, so I'm kind of plugging away

on that by myself. So yeah, just kind of see where the wind takes me, I guess. Well, we enjoyed watching you on the street for four years. Sad to see how long ago, but looking forward to seeing this movie coming up, and all the best. Yeah thank you very much.

ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Megan the podcast. A wonderful article I read the whole article and that's pretty rare in me and most people.

I'll read down the first paragraph and then I'm like that's enough. The inverted triangle in journalism right all the information in the top part of

the thing and then slowly people dribble off. Yes. I failed journalism because I couldn't write short headlines. You can't write short anything. No, I know. Captions on Instagram.

No, I know. Everything's like, well, if it's worth telling, tell it. Voice breaks on the radio really long. Don't keep it short, Vaughn. I've always had a problem with length. No, I haven't. No one is believing that. Not with always had a problem with length. No, I haven't. No one is believing that. Not with what I was just implying to.

No. Oh, I do have a problem with length. It's just a little on the short side there. So a spin-off article written by... A hipster. Sure, a hipster. But I really enjoy her writing. Madeline Chapman wrote an article,

and it wasn't like a serious... Well, it was actually. Okay. It was, she bought 122 bags of chips, all different types of chips. Did she personally pay for that or did the company reimburse her? I think it would have been a company expense. It would have been hundreds of dollars. Anything's a company expense if you can justify it for tax season.

So she bought 122 bags of chips, the ones that are available in New Zealand, and ranked them from 122 to 1. Wow, okay. And it's, you know, she says why different chips are in different positions, and I have I don't want to spoil I want to spoil her article. It's been out for a little while. Her top five were

number five Pringles original. Original with no flavour. Is it like salt? Yeah. Just salt. Yeah. No. Mexican jalapeno corn chips are at number four. Those are legit.

What brand is that? It's the red bag. Mexicano. The red bag. Number three, Grainwaves honey mustard. No. I would have gone sour cream though. You don't know.

I'm a honey mustard. Oh my God, cute. Burger rings at number two. Yes! Which we're just on board with. God, I love burger rings. We spoil burger rings for Megan by telling her to open the bag and sniff it immediately and tell us what it smells like. Because we're grown up men in our 30s.

Can't eat those anymore. Because maturity is our forte. That's why. So, at number one, Bluebird Original Salt and Vinegar. It's an absolute... Oh, yeah. It's the keystone in the bridge and vinegar. It's an absolute. Oh, yeah. It's the keystone in the bridge of chips.

It's a must have. But like, you've got so many fancy chips now. I know, but sometimes fancy's too much. No, you just want. Yeah. What you know. So, did she do all of the, or every chip you can imagine? Every chip that she could purchase. So, that was released on Friday, March 29.

And now there's an article out called, I told New Zealand what chips to eat and New Zealand told me to F right off. She's like done a follow up. Because it's insane. Like you could write an amazing piece of journalism on a political situation as it stands. Yeah.

And you'd get minimal engagement. Some very passionate people, the vocal minority. Yeah. They did this. It had 3,700 comments. And all of them were people saying, yes, that chip deserves that spot. Or what are you thinking? Like just everybody went in. So it's crazy.

We're still very passionate about the chip. Well, we do food fight on Instagram, don't we? Yeah. And that gets heated. It gets heated. So many votes and stuff. Yeah, but like when they go too political, they lose me. So for like mid to lower intelligence levels like myself. Yeah.

Chippies, I know about. I like to think I'm the Tover O'Brien of snacks. Like I could, you know, she does the political reporting. I could really stand in front of a camera and talk about different yums. That's a lot. Every night at six o'clock. And I bet people would watch. I don't know if they would.

It would be divisive. But as with politics, except more people would care. If you got a little packet of chippies when you voted in the general election, she'd be there. One hundy. And you get to go and you've got to go early because otherwise if you get there late it's only really salted left.

Or you get to choose the chippies. Yeah, because they buy those big party bags. But then you've got the go early because otherwise if you get there late it's only really salted left or chicken. Oh, you get to choose the chippies. Yeah, because they buy those big party bags. But then you've got the people that like really salted. Those people are weird. Well, then what you do is you're like,

what bag of chips do you like? And they're like, really salted. And you're like, here's your bag of chips and then they vote and you just screw it up and chuck it in the bin.

The vote? Yeah. That's not a good democracy. It's chip-based democracy. I'm trying. It was invented in ancient Greece. Right, was it? When somebody was handing out those Greek tzadziki chips.

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