ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - August 28 2019

Episode Date: August 27, 2019

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ZM. Head music lives here. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. Thank you, Anya. Good morning. Welcome to the show. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. So we find out at midday if we're going to Japan for the World Cup. Oh, fingers crossed. Need to get packing. What position will you be going for?

One where I don't get tackled much. Is that like halfback? Oh, but then I have to run fast. There's no good position for me. No. Okay. The one where they lift me up in the air, lock.

See, I know the names of them. I'm not playing on the field. I'm manager. You're team physio. Yep. Give them a rub down. Yeah, right. I'll be like,

oh, that's got a bit of a tingle to it. And I'll say, yes, it's the Durex 2-in-1. It's both massage and lubricant. And that will be your last day on the job. You're welcome. When they go out, they'll be impossible to tackle because they'll be so slippery. What a great plan.

Actually. No, but then we couldn't lift them up in the line out. We could lift them by their shorts and give them a wedgie. Even lubey shorts? You don't lube the shorts. I'm saying that they would end up

on the shorts if there's lube everywhere. Why don't they wear like bike pants? Because that's a win-win

for everyone. It's a good point actually. Less to grab. Well I suppose their shorts are like bike shorts underneath, right? They've got like a lining in them. I know, but when you tackle them, they can grab their shorts and stuff.

Make their list to grab. Even the clips from like 10, 15 years ago of rugby games. So we're the baggiest clothes. Now they're pretty much like slimline. They're getting tighter and tighter and tighter. Just wear a onesie. Maybe you're right. Like the rowers.

Yeah, we'll end up like a rowers onesie. Do you remember Kathy Freeman's Olympic sprinting outfit? It was like one of those morphed suits except it had a face hole. That's right. Remember when she ran in that green and gold one of those? Didn't everyone laugh? Yeah, but she smoked it, didn't she? Yeah.

There we go. There's something in it. Imagine the All Blacks in those. Yeah. I want to see them do it just to hear the old mates have a problem with it. It's not like

I reckon mine that you wouldn't have seen Colin Meads in a bloody morph suit. Would have been good to see Colin Meads in a morph suit. It would have looked great.

Now I've got pictures in my mind. Yeah. All right you lot listen up it's story time. And story time. I have three news stories, three headlines.

Vaughn and Megan, you've got to pick one of the following three. Headline one, Japanese smartphone flashes prevail despite stiff penalties. Headline two, man's pain in the butt. And headline three, best friends hit the jackpot. What was the pain in the butt one? Man's pain in the butt. And headline three, best friends hit the jackpot. What was the pain in the butt one? Man's pain in the butt. I kind of need to know what the pain in the butt is. Is that physical pain in the butt?

Yes. What was the other one? Was it Japanese smartphone flash? People are taking photos of things even though they've been told not to. Yeah. Right. Well, they're sending their eardropping there, their pee-pees. things, even though they've been told not to. Yeah. Right. Well, they're sending their eardropping there, their pee-pees.

Oh, right. Oh, thanks, Lurch. The pain in the butt. You want the pain in the butt? Yeah, I'd love that one too then. All right. A man's decade-long pain in the butt has finally disappeared

after a long overdue trip to the hospital. Classic old mates. Put it off, put it off. Ah, she'll be right. For 10 years. A 55-year-old resident from China, he had experienced a stinging, tingling sensation in his buttocks for the last 10 years.

Butt cheek or like? Or buttocks. It says buttocks. Which one is buttocks? I'd say butt cheeks. Like when he sits down or something. Right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. And so earlier this month, he decided finally to go in and see the doctor. So they were like, well, look, let's x-ray you and see what's going on here. Spiders. Eight embroidery needles were found and taken out of his buttocks. And I'm showing you the needles. Quite big. Yeah.

They reckon he must have sat down, like on the couch or on a seat somewhere. And they went in and he didn't notice. 10 years ago. Yeah. So an embroidery needle, from what I can see, looks like a very large standard sewing needle. It's got an eye opening at one end that you put the thread through, obviously.

But they look very thick. Right. Eight of them. Yeah. Piercing the buttock. So apparently he had fallen at work, and he reckons this is what did it. He sat down on a rubbish pile. Oh, my God.

And he thought he'd got them all. Oh, so he did actually pull a couple out. Did he get a tetanus? I don't know what to say. Was his tetanus up to date? I mean, he's fine now. They took four hours at the hospital to remove all of them. Oh.

And, yeah, but he's fine now. I can't believe he was dealing with that for 10 years. Every time he sat down, he would have been like, man, that hurts. Yeah. It was just a tingle. Ah, it still hurts. He doesn't have a photo of him,

but I'm thinking he must have had a bit of a cushion down there. Yeah, a bit of a cushion for the cushion. Because if you had a bony bouton, you'd feel that way more, surely. Yeah. Wow. Is it wrong that I... That would be so satisfying, pulling those out.

You know when you squeeze someone's... Like when you watch a Dr. Pimple Popper? Yeah. No, I would... I kind of want to see... I don't know. No, I do. I can't even watch the Dr. Pimple Poppers.

Not the big, gross ones. I kind of want to see. It would be so satisfying, pulling that out. If it had been that long, there would have been... Because that long, would the, yeah, it would have been. Because, you know, even if you leave like a splinter in for a little bit too long. Yeah. They're so hard to get into and then they've kind of, ugh. That nasty.

Yeah, it's not pretty. Fletchvorna Megan, the podcast. ZM. Okay, fine. I have to apologise. It wasn't Australians. It was Austrians. Close.

Close when you look at that word, Megan. Easiest state to make. And when I tell you what happened, it could have easily been two Australians. Well, it could have been two Kiwis too. It could have. So two Austrian tourists have been kicked out of Machu Picchu because they were spotted stripping off

and taking pictures of their beer bums at Machu Picchu. Oh, they don't make alpacas put on, Klaus. You can't much a Pichu. That's a species. People like to do that for the gram, right? Get naked and then just take a picture of you from the back. I just Googled nude much Pichu. And look, I mean, that's on the work Wi-Fi,

so I'll probably get hauled into IT later. But look, there's quite a few people who've done it. So it's not a new thing to do, that classic photo from up the top. But they're trying to chill it out, eh? Is this one of these historical sites that's also wild for tourism? They're just trying to chill it out a bit?

I thought they were going to close it. Yeah, it's getting overrun, so they obviously want people to be a bit more respectful and everyone out right there. Yeah, it's getting overrun. So they obviously want people to be a bit more respectful and everyone when they are out there. Yeah, that's the problem. It's a sacred place, a sacred space. So they were arrested as they went to leave and they were transferred to their nearest checkpoint.

So don't do it. I mean, I would have thought that that was pretty straightforward. Yeah. You shouldn't get naked in a sacred place. I mean, I come from a family of nudists, but even I know there's a time and a place when you're cooking and when you're in a sacred place. When you're cooking and you're a hot element,

you definitely... You don't get naked. Yeah. And isn't it quite cold up there, even because it's the altitude? Yeah, but when has that stopped anyone from stripping off? Getting naked. Yeah, but you want your photo from the behind in that situation

because the coldness might tighten the butt cheeks a little bit and give you a little extra tonage. Not the first time people have been caught. I'm just looking at another story like 2014, 2015, and then I think they brought in a ban. Venuity. Venuity at Machu Picchu. Right. like 2014, 2015, and then I think they brought in a ban. Or they had to... Venuity. Venuity at Machu Picchu.

Right. So, I mean, it's been happening for years. What would the traditional attire of the people who built Machu Picchu have been? Oh, I don't know. That's another thing to take into consideration. Were they heavily clothed people? Because, again, it's quite high in altitude, so they probably wore furs and such.

I'll have to look more into that. Some Peruvian fashion. Give us New Zealand Fashion Week. I might look into Peruvian ancient culture fashion week and see what they had going on there. It's going to inspire your next line. Yeah, right. They would have had the Peruvian version of Colin McPherson and Jeffrey there, I'd imagine.

And other fashion week. Megan's going to a fashion show tonight. She told you this. I've got two today, actually. She's got two. She's going to two. What ones are you going to? I'm going to one that Fletch was invited to and declined.

I don't go to things. People. Stolen Girlfriends Club and Rind. The Stolen Girlfriends Club. I got an invitation to things. People. Stolen Girlfriends Club and Rhymed. The Stolen Girlfriends Club. I got an invitation to the after party. I thought that was pretty funny in itself. Party, no thanks. One of the sponsors of their show was Dyson.

Yeah, as in like hair, right? Dyson hair. Well, yeah, because Megan's, they do hair. I just thought it would be really funny if they were modelling their jackets, but also like holding one of those like battery powered Dysons just because you're a sponsor doesn't mean they literally

have to hold all the sponsored stuff down the runway well if I was a sponsor I'd demand it absolutely I'd pay money to be associated I'd want to be part of the show

you just walk with goats briefly on the Dyson buzz yeah non-sponsored by the way yeah we used all of our flybys 25 years of flybys, to buy a Dyson. One of the Dysons.

Yeah. And I was always a bit like, wow. I told you, wow. I got Fletcher's hand-me-down Dyson, and that's like, wow. I got it. What do you mean, a hand-me-down? Because he got a new one. Remember, he's a Dyson influencer.

Remember, I got a free one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I gave Megan my old one. Oh, I thought you'd upgraded to the V11. No, he's a V10. No, I'm a V10. I'm a vintage something. Yeah, she's got one that you have to plug the cord in.

Oh, into the wall. Those are still pretty good. With a hose and everything. Oh, yeah. Like a normal vacuum cleaner. No, that's good. See, I'm still a fan of those ones. No, I'm not.

And I use it in the car. Oh, yeah. The Dyson. You know what an absolute shambles my car is? Oh, yeah, it's disgusting. Well, I'm not. And I use it in the car. Oh, yeah. The Dyson. You know what an absolute shambles my car is. Oh, yeah. It's disgusting. Well, it's not anymore. Look, like a hay shed.

I know. Got all the hay. Yeah. Oh, no. I've been telling you. Hashtag non-spawn. Non-spawn. Non-spawn.

You're doing this influencing all wrong, boy. I know. Yeah. I know. That's probably why I don't get invited to more Fashion Week things. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Boston University, they tracked the attitudes of 70,000 US adults. Yep.

And they have found that people with a positive attitude or optimists lived longer. Oh, a load of rubbish. That's me. Well, I mean, if I'm measured up against you two, then I'm definitely an optimist. Yeah, but that's like saying, that's like measuring that you're not on fire just because you're next to people who are fully engulfed

versus just the bottom half. He's not on fire. Oh, no, I'm not on fire compared to these people. Can I be a cynical optimist? No. See, I think I be a cynical optimist? No. I think I'm a cynical optimist too. No. Like, you're optimistic about things

that deserve to be optimistic about, but you see through the bullshit. You've never been optimistic about anything. Yeah, that's because I haven't yet found anything that deserves optimism. Or you. I cannot think of one thing where you're like, yeah, okay, that could work. That could be... one thing where you're like, yeah, okay.

I can. That could work. That could be. Oh, yeah. He loves a bit of that. I mean, in that category, ever the optimist. I thought I'm being attacked. I'm being absolutely attacked.

It's a personal attack. I apologise, Splits. You are optimistic sometimes. Thank you. I am. I'm a cynical optimist. So I was born. I think that's a category. Oh yeah, actually, that's a good call. Because it's not forever negative or pessimistic.

My mum says she's not pessimistic, she's realistic. Yeah. That's what a pessimist is. That's exactly how pessimists describe themselves. Pessimists are so negative. Yeah, do you know me? We're the mirror. She's being so negative

About our optimistic How would we describe Fletcher Bourne And the producers both Optimistic or Pessimistic Cynically optimistic Not pessimistic

Negative 90% of the time I wouldn't say we're negative What's the word for What does narcissism mean No that's like Self obsession No that one That one What's the word for... What does narcissism mean? No, that's like self-obsession. That one.

That one. Unbelievable. I didn't realise we were just going all in. Yeah, I was going to say, either we were concentrating on just optimistic or pessimistic. I was just being honest. Not any word that ends with stick. What about in 2009, you're born as somewhat of a mentor.

Is he not... You're gay. There's a lot of negativity coming from the narcissistic pessimists and the producers both. We're just keeping it real, bro. Thank you. That's what I'm saying. Optimistic cynicism.

It's the optimism in me that's kept me here so long. It's the wonder you two are turning around. Some would say that that's kept me here so long. So one day you two will turn it around. Some would say that that's your own fault. After this long that you think there's a chance. You should have learnt by now. That doesn't sound optimistic though, does it? Well, the optimistic people, they live longer. Optimistic men's lives are apparently 11% longer

than their pessimistic counterparts. That's quite a bit, isn't it? Yeah, it is. Well, yeah, if it's 80, it's eight more years, right? Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, those last eight years are probably going to be bloody miserable. That's very pessimistic.

Clock out early. Leave on a high note. Like 80, you're like, done. Just shit myself for the first time. I'm out. And positive women live 15% longer. Well, that's because you're generally happier, right? You've got a better mood.

This is good for you. You'll need those 15 years to match up to Mr. Toyboy. Yeah. So you can notebook it together. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. So optimistic woman were 50% more likely to live to the age of 85.

And if you had a good attitude and you were a man, your chance of reaching 85 was 70%. What about your wife, Sade? Is she optimistic? I don't think so. She's pretty much, we're just the same. We're the same, very like, yeah. A cynical optimistic. Cynical optimism. Yeah. 100're the same. Very like, yeah. A cynical optimistic. Cynical optimism.

Yeah. 100% a thing. It is a thing. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. We always talk about the bank of mum and dad. Well, you still.

So my mum came up and, well, my mum and dad both came up. Actually, does she want me to say this? Because sometimes dad might tell her off. But she filled up my car twice. I was like, yeah. You have a full-time job? Did she have exclusive use of your car for the time that she was up here? No, like we drove around together.

Like we were to the supermarket and stuff. You have a full-time job. She doesn't. I know, but she's my mum. Do they not do that for you guys? I wouldn't. Do they not love you as much as they love me? That's sad. So yeah, they still... My parents

loved me so much that at an early age, they taught me independence. I have independence! They were like, we've done a good job raising this guy. My parents taught me that when someone hands you free money, you don't say no. That's a good lesson. Yeah.

So yeah, mum still filled up my car. And God, it feels good. You're like, oh my God, that's like a lot of money that I can now use on money. Online shopping. Yeah, pretty much. But there is a bank of mum and dad crisis. Not just mine. Everyone's bank of mum and dad.

They had to put their interest rates up. They're bucking the trend of every other bank's mortgage and dad they've had to put their interest rates up they're bucking the trend of every other bank's mortgage and cash rate situation they've decided to put their interest rates up yeah

no a quarter of mum and dad banks yeah are having to go into retirement later because they've been too generous with their children

they're propping up their kids lives yeah and so they're having to work longer and they've got less money in the bank. So parental contributions towards

a first deposit for kids' houses went from six, this is in the UK, six thousand pounds, so like twelve thousand dollars to twenty four thousand pounds. That's like fifty K. But you always hear it from like your friends who are like is that on average?

Yeah. So the parents that can't afford to give their kids much at all that means there's some parents more or less

floating the whole thing right? Yeah. But you always hear of people like I bought my home really young and then

it was just the first step on the property I just you know just did it myself past tricks apart from my inheritance that I got early. It was just the first step on the property. I just, you know, just did it myself. Past tricks apart from my inheritance that I got early. Yeah, but then their parents are not going to be able to retire because they've just given it all to their kids. But their parents also probably owned a house

when house prices went absolutely crazy. Should we, with this news, be backing off the parents then, Megan? I never asked for it. And then I never put up much of a fight though. You're like, oh no. But your dad's not going to be able to retire as early now because he's, you were leeching all the money. It's her mum giving the money away so maybe she doesn't

want him at home. Maybe this is the plan. Maybe she's like, oh, you've got to keep working, there's no money. He's like, where's it all going? She's giving some to you in the form of petrol. She's burying the other lot. ZM's Fletch Warner Megan, the podcast. Kygo Whitney Houston on ZM, Fletch Warner Megan.

So that's a new song using an old song. Yes. Because when we were on break We were driving And Indy, my daughter Was in the back of the car And I knew the words to the song She's like, how do you know The words to the song?

It's a new song And I said, well, it's a new song But it uses an old song The singing part The lady singing is an old song And she said, oh, what does she do now? And I said, well, she's dead She's passed away

Oh, I hope he wouldn't And she said Inquisitive mind She said, how did she die? Oh, boy. And then I'm like, well, I want to be honest with her. I said, she drowned in a bath. Oh, my God.

And Indy's like, how did you drown in a bath? I said, well, she had a drug problem. Oh, my God. What? And she took too many and mixed it with alcohol and fell asleep in a bath and slipped under and passed away. And Indy was like, wow. How old is Indy now?

Seven. Is this too much in favor of a seven-year-old? I didn't know. I was kind of every time she asked another question, I'd think and I'd be like, well, she had a drug problem. What's a drug problem? I said, well, it's where she was getting pills for a thing, but she was taking too many and it made her sleepy

and she mixed them with alcohol, which you're not supposed to do. Why don't you just sit her down and watch Euphoria? She's only seven. Got to say something for when they're eight. Yeah. So, yeah, and I thought that's going to stay with her. And then she just kind of shrugged it off and got on with the day.

Right. Well, she won't be doing drugs in a bath in a hurry. Well she hasn't had a bath since, it's been primarily showers. Quick ones. From the ZM Think Tank, this is the Top 6. Good morning!

MPs, that stands for Ministers of Parliament. Is it the Members of Parliament? Yeah, I thought it was Members too. Oh yeah, you're right.isters of Parliament. They're... Is it the Members of Parliament? Yeah, I thought it was Members too. Oh yeah, you're right. No, you're right. Members of Parliament.

Yeah. They're Ministers. Yes. So the Ministers get paid more than the average member. Like a backbencher. A backbencher. You'd get hardly anything

as a backbencher. Oh wait, really? How much do backbenchers get? They don't do anything. No, I know, but I'm pretty sure it's in the six figs. It's still in the six figs.

Paid for member of parliament, depending on their level of responsibility, they usually earn between $160,000 and $180,000 a year. Oh, well, I want to be one of them. Oh, I wouldn't be able to be one, would I? Why? Skeletons. The Prime Minister's salary is set at $470.

So you imagine someone that just sits at the back and goes, Moo! I can do that. Oh, yay! They're getting paid just under half of what the Prime Minister's getting paid, whereas the Prime Minister's a 24-7 job. Surely they do more than that. Yay.

There'd be lots of writing, right? There'd be. Oh, you have to deal with people. People are upset That some of them Are earning so much Yes but In some of their defence

Not all of them But in some of their defence Here's the top six reasons Why MPs are paid so much Number six They have to wear clothes That are their party colours Oh you just thought

The problem was They had to wear clothes They're required To not be naked They have to wear clothes In their party colours. So you imagine being a Labour candidate and you always have to have a red blazer on hand. Yeah.

Or like that, like a vibrant blue for a national party member. Just so they can never wear a royal blue. No, she'd be. What if she just really likes royal blue? She finds like a nice blue number. Yeah. Or if you're in the greens, a green. I don't like green anything

What about Acts worse It's yellow It's primary colours Yellow And then Like a nice Like a dark green

Would be cute Like a forest green No they haven't Yeah Megan's right They haven't signed To one particular green No They've got the whole

Spectrum of greens Many greens to wear In fact the green party Has probably got the best deal Right Winston Peters Has got the best idea It's quite black Because it's very slimming

Yes A black suit Yeah Yeah black t-shirt That's a great idea Number five on the list Of the top six reasons Why MPs are paid so much

They have to talk to Mike Hosking He's never really nice No Because he's got lots of hard questions And he's Like he sounds angry. Yeah. Just chill out, mate.

It's all right. Number four on the list of the top six reasons why MPs are paid so much. Rod Emerson and other political cartoonists draw mean cartoons of them. Do you know, that's my worst nightmare. That would be the worst part about being a politician. Because then you'll suddenly realise, oh my God, my nose is really big. He exaggerates their features and they have to be okay with that.

Yeah. Like they might have a freckle and then Rod Emerson looks at them, he's like, look at that big ugly mole and turns a freckle into a mole. I don't know how it comes to your thing. I don't know why people sign up to do those, you know those holiday sketch artists?

I saw heaps of them in Europe. Why? And I saw these couples doing know, those holiday sketch artists. Neither. I saw heaps of them in Europe. Why? And I saw these couples doing it. I'm like, oh, no. I don't need someone to exaggerate my features. Yeah, that's the thing. It's always like, and the political cartoons are always done in the meanest way, too. Yeah.

Like, oh, their ears make them massive. Yeah. Oh, they've got teeth, have they? Well, now their teeth have gone half their face. Yeah. So that's got to be hard to look at. Yeah. Oh, they've got teeth, have they? Well, now their teeth are going off their face. Yeah. So that's got to be hard to look at. Yeah. Number three on the list of the top six reasons why MPs are paid so much.

They have to fly into Wellington Airport all the time. Oh, yeah. Even in all the winds. Yeah. Can't beat Wellington on a good day, but they're there for all of the days. Yeah. The windy ones, too. Number two on the list of the top six reasons why MPs are paid so much.

They have to hear people on their team, their political party, say the dumbest things and they're not allowed to publicly like distance themselves from it. I couldn't do that. I know. You know, imagine like someone says something dumb and you disagree with it and then a reporter's like, and what do you think about what he said?

And you have to be like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's an idiot. He's a dumbass. Party policy. It'd break you. Yeah. No, it was stupid. what he said and you had to be like oh yeah yeah he's an idiot he's a dumbass party party policy it'd break you you'd be like

no it was stupid they're dumb they're a dumb dumb a bigger dumb dumb and number one on the list of the top six reasons why MPs are paid so much

they have to deal with all the people that comment on community Facebook pages but in real life all of them all of them people often say

teachers should be paid more than MPs and I agree that teachers should be paid more than MPs, and I agree that teachers should be paid more. But you know what's worse than dealing with unruly kids all day? Dealing with their way more unruly adults. And you can't send those adults to the principal's office. No, definitely not. That is today's top six.

There's two sorts of shirts that I wear year round. Now, in summer, it's three-quarter sleeve raglan. Yep. Tea. You're well known for loving a raglan tea. I love a raglan tea. Now, in winter and in the cooler months, your autumns, your start of springs, I wear this long-sleeved number.

Yep. They only come in white and black. So it's only ever white or black. Yep. It's called a Henley tee. It's got one, one, two, three buttons. It's a long sleeve tee with three buttons. And I always push the sleeves up.

Yep. So they sit just about at the elbow. We're technically making it a Raglan tee. But with different, but with the same color, not a different color on the sleeve. Okay, right. It's always a three quarter sleeve. Yep. So this is not a different colour on the sleeve. Okay, right. It's always a three quarter sleeve. Yep.

So this is called a Henley tee. Right. And they're always from AS Colour. You're on commission. No, I'm not. I'm not on commission.

I should be on commission. I know because you keep them in business. I do keep them in business. I always go in. Are you upset that you can't find because you can't find

them anywhere? Well, here's the problem is that I can't find the Henley tea. I went into the store and I was like, do you have any of these? And the guy's like, could I have more? Nah. They know because I always just go in. Yeah.

And he's like, no, we don't have any. They're only online. Now, this was a while back and I went online and there was some. So I was like, well, okay, that's how I cut up mine, ordering these online. So I ordered three of each. Yeah. Three black, three white. That's what I always do.

Mm-hmm. So then it came to this round of buying more and I went into the store. I was like, are these in store? And he's like, no, they're only online. I was like, great to see you and left because there's nothing else I need. And I went online and they only had the white online

and there was limited sizes. And I was like, uh-oh, have we got a problem? Okay. They're going to stop making these. So I went into the store that has the factory out the back in West Auckland. Okay. And I said, do you have any of these? And they were like, no.

And I said, any more coming? And they were very, like the And I said, any more coming? And they were very, like the person in the shop was like, without saying it, they like, bit their bottom up and shook their head like,

no. No. Kind of their way of saying you're the only one in New Zealand that's been buying these. And you're not buying enough to keep us in business.

Yeah, right. So effectively, I can't find where to buy them now. They've ended the line. That's what it feels like and I don't like it. You know that

it's like, it's a pretty basic top, like, I know. Longish sleeves with buttons in them. That's what my wife said,

you'll be able to find somewhere else and I said, I don't want somewhere else and I found other ones but they've all got writing on them and things. Oh, yeah. I don't want somewhere else. And I found other ones but they've all got writing on them and things. I don't want writing on them or little

decorative things. I don't want any of that. Oh, Banana Republic has one for $106. It looks exactly the same. Are you bloody kidding me? $106 for a t-shirt? But it looks the same. If you're into that style.

I could get five of these for $106 or even more. Well, you're just going to have to go back to Raglan tees. But I like these. I know you do. I like these. You're a creature of habit. A little bit different. I know I don't like to change things.

Yeah. Like it took me a long time to be talking to these boots, but I've literally worn them every day since I purchased them. Look at that big scuff on the side. Those are your good boots. Yeah, I don't know where that came from actually. They're not my good boots anymore. I've ruined them. But see, at least like when a lolly

or a food gets discontinued, you can't replicate that. At least you'll be able to get something that looks like that. But if I'd known that they were going to stop, I would have bought a lot. Yeah, right. I probably would have spent like $1,000 and just... And you'd never be able to put it on weight.

No. Why? Because it'd regulate you. Yeah, yeah. I'd want to know. Or maybe I'd buy a couple of extra-larges just in case. Just in case you ever blow out. For after holidays.

Just in case there's a blowout. Yeah. After Christmas. So that's, and then they've stopped making them. So I'm just, I don't know. What do I do now? Where were they getting them made? Do I have to go back to the country?

Do I have to take a step back? Maybe. Find their supplier. Because surely their supplier is still making them. Well, you could take a t-shirt like that and take it to a factory. And say, replicate this. Yeah. I mean, it might cost you quite a bit like that and take it to a factory. And say, replicate this. Yeah. I mean, it might cost you quite a bit of money.

That sounds like, yeah. I mean, flights alone to whatever third world country is making these t-shirts. Yeah, I know. Yeah. You're right, though. When it's like lollies or whatever, that's for the best. But if it's a shirt that you wear every day, that's really upsetting. Yeah.

And I can't be the only person that buys the same thing like every time, all the time. I'd like to know when something that you like wear or love or eat is discontinued. When it's stopped getting made.

Somebody said, why is one buying six new shirts a year? Because I wear them every single day. Yeah. Are they saying that's a must? And they're not shirt shirts. They're like a t-shirt shirt. Yeah, yeah.

Not like a... And I don't get home and take it off. I just get home and go about my tasks. So like they get holes and they get stains and I dribble a lot

and there's that. Yeah, if you know Vaughan you'd be like, why is Vaughan only buying six new shirts a year? Yeah. And to be honest, there's obviously more Yeah, if you know Vaughan, you'd be like, why is Vaughan only buying six new shirts a year? Yeah. And to be honest,

there's obviously more than six shirts a year being purchased. Okay, well, 0800DARLSATM, give us a call, 9696 to text. Your heartache

of when something you love just apparently disappeared from the store where you buy it. They stopped making it. They stopped making it. Talking of the heartache of having something

that you love discontinued Like your favourite white long sleeve t-shirt I can't find these t-shirts online or in store Of the place I've been buying them Maybe this is a chance for you to find your next favourite new t-shirt I don't want to Because what if they stop making that in two years time And I have to do this all over again

You scoffed at me when I purchased 13, 15 blue hats. Yeah, I think it was 25, wasn't it? Well, anyway, I'm going through those. I'm going through my flexi bits. I find when you've got a banked up amount of them, you tend to just play a little fast and loose when you move on to the new one. Yep, I know.

Whereas when you don't have them banked up and you have to buy it, you'll delay the buying. Yep, 100%. I have no idea why you guys weren't invited to Fashion Week. It really baffles me. Excuse me, I was invited to Stolen Girlfriend's fashion show. I don't know why. That baffles me.

Do you own anything from them? Maybe flexi fit hats are coming back. I don't know. And plain black t-shirts. What is that fashion where you only wear plain things? There's a name for it. Boring. No, it's like you don't wear like brands.

You wear like. I don't know. No, because there was a name for it. I read an article about it. I was like, oh, yeah, that's me. Just plain Jane. Cute. No, you wear like the little alligator thing.

I wear the odd like thing. I wear the odd. Yeah, odd little thing. Excuse me, I saw on your gram you had a Tommy Hilfiger t-shirt. Your bougie. Oh yeah, I know that was red. Did you see I got a red t-shirt? I wanted to comment and say this is red, like confused face, but I didn't want to make you feel self-conscious.

It's a Tommy Hilfiger t-shirt. It's red. Let's go with your FUBU, Jess. Oh my God. And your Kangol hat. Dad, you're not up with the play. This is why you don't get invites to Fashion Week. At least I get an invite.

Right. So we want to know from you this morning when your favourite thing has been discontinued because Vaughan, your favourite white t-shirts look to have been discontinued. Yeah, it looks that way, which is very sad. Some text messages in on the subject. Somebody said that they've stopped making Shiseido Moisture Mesh Compact Foundation.

Have they? No, that seems like a staple. There is one ingredient apparently that they now can't get. This person's been using it for over 30 years. And also Revlon discontinued their favourite lippy colour. Oh, I hate that. That's the worst. That's how you got to bulk buy when you find something you love, don't you?

Natalie, what did they discontinue that you were upset about? Yeah, so my hubby would only wear this specific type of Davenport box of briefs that I'd buy from farmers. Yeah. They're discontinued now and he won't wear anything else. So he's getting real low on undies. They, you know, get holes in them and we bust them. And so he, yeah, it's a crisis. He's not sure what he's going to do.

That is tough. It's not something that you can just go in and try on a heap of different ones. And he's not a shopper, so I have to get them and bring them home. And he's like, no, no, try that one. No. And yeah, so it's crisis level at our house. I feel that because if I find a pair of undies, boxes that I love, I'll buy heaps of them.

Yeah, like six or eight at a time. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're right about not being able to try them on with boxes. That's a real problem because I tried a new brand and the woman's like, what size are you in? The other brand you're wearing is like large. And she's like, yeah, it's the same here, but it's not. It's tight.

Tight around the balls. They say you're not meant to try them on in the fitting rooms. No, you're not. No, you're not meant to try them on in the fitting rooms. No, you're not. You don't. No, you're not. It becomes my problem to sort out when there's no clean undies. What if there's no clean undies?

Does he wear no undies? Will he just become a commando? Well, I'm too scared to even ask. He's a plumber and climbs ladders all day. Oh, Jesus. You don't want that poking out at ladders all day. Oh, Jesus. You know what that poking out at a client's house? No cowboys.

It'll be like, he did a great job. I was on time, but I saw his balls. Things you call Natalie. Jalen, what did they stop making that you got upset about? So I wear black plain vest.

Okay. And every year, every year I buy one just so that, because I don't like the faded black look. Okay. And I always buy a new one each year.

That's bougie. I thought puffer vests were supposed to last forever. Well, no, not this one. Okay. I was so upset. And did they stop making that specific one? Yeah, they stopped making it, but they tried to give me this other one, but it had zips and stuff all over it.

But mine was like, it was just plain black, it's p's coffee and there's no zips or anything no writing it's just plain and i liked it have you been have you been to catmando or mac pack there's like 4 000 puffy vests yeah but it's not the same material oh right okay oh yeah that's quite shiny yeah right vests yeah some of them are shiny. Very shiny. I want like a matte one. A matte finish. This is what Jalen's struggling to find. I can feel it.

Feeling it. Brad, thanks. You're cool. Jalen, Brad, what did they stop making? Mac Great White Beer. Mac Great White Beer. Max. Was that a limited edition one?

No, no. It used to be the original one that came out with the original water, and they discontinued it. In this day and age, I didn't think they discontinued any beers. They just made the can a bit more crafty and then made a new one. Yeah, well, there's still a lot of new ones, but they've dropped that one.

Nothing comes close, Brad. No, it doesn't. The wheat beer was the best. Beer just all tastes the same to me. Wheaty or poppy. Thanks, you call Brad. That's a text.

Somebody has absolutely gutted they've changed Link's Africa, the shower gel. They changed, yeah, because it was just Link's Africa.

Come on. When I said Link's Africa, who else could smell Link's Africa? Yeah, I could smell it. But do they mean it's still called Africa, but the formulation's different? They've changed it now.

It's called Lynx Africa with orange and sand blue old scent. Oh, they're trying to make that up. And it's totally different. You've got to branch out from your Lynx. There are so many delicious. Don't judge them on their Lynx. I'm not judging the Lynx. Actually, I am judging the Lynx.

No, you just use Nivea. There's nicer soaps. Or are we talking deodorants? Is this a deodorant? No, no, this is a shower gel. It's a body wash. It's a body wash. There's so many body washes out there.

They're delicious. They like it. You like your blue hair. What about your Radox coconut? Love a Radox coconut. Or your Radox lime. Love a Radox. Maybe they don't want to smell like a fruit salad.

Beckel, who doesn't want to smell like a fruit salad. Beckel. Who doesn't want to smell like a fruit salad? Somebody said they stopped making the copper kettle rosemary and thyme kermere crisps. Oh, good lord. I literally gave an audible no in the supermarket. Working there asked me if I was okay. They've discontinued the Nescafe butterscotch. I made many calls to follow it up, including to Nescafe in Australia.

They said it wasn't popular, so I got stopped making. Oh, that's an out. A few months later, it appeared briefly back on the shelves with a banner that it had been awarded Nescafe's most popular flavour. So what the is going on, Nescafe?

Someone's telling fibs. There's a conspiracy somewhere there, isn't there? And actually, we had the caller before who said that the Davenport Boxer Briefs, she can't find them. Yep.

Pack and save. Do a 10-pack. Oh, okay. I hope she's still listening. Yeah, I do too. Get along to pack and save. Yep. I mean,

he's not going to be fussy about where his undies get purchased from. Megan, you probably wouldn't be too keen if Torbo came home and said, I bought you a 10-pack from pack and save. I'm not going to be fussy about where his undies get purchased from. Megan, you probably wouldn't be too keen if Torbjorn came home and said, I bought you a 10-pack from Pack and Save.

I'm not saying anything. Somebody said my local plant barn. Yeah. Plant barn in Henderson. You might be thinking, what plant have they got rid of? They got rid of their Reuben sandwich from their cafe. Trove there in the lady, they don't make it anymore I just turned around and walked right back out

I sure hope this pre-recorded laughing isn't after something inappropriate to laugh at But I just want to take a moment to say thanks to Spark for sponsoring the Fletch, Fawn and Megan podcast You can grab Spark's $29 prepaid rollover packs and get stacks of extra value Back to the podcast I got a letter yesterday. I know. A letter. I know.

I was away for two weeks and went to the letterbox and there was nothing in it. I was like, ouch. It's better than getting letters like I get from the IRD. That's the 1980s equivalent of losing your phone and then getting back to your phone and having no notifications. Yeah, pretty much. But yesterday's letter on the outside said New Zealand Police. So I left that sitting there for a little bit because I didn't want to open it.

Because you knew what it was. Well, no, I didn't know what it was. I was like, what could this be? And then my husband got home and was like, oh, what's that? We opened it together. Turns out it's a speeding ticket. It's a speeding ticket in the car that he always drives. Okay.

Because we have two cars. We generally stick to driving our own one. Yep. Unless there's special occasions. So if you're going somewhere, whose car do you take? It depends. See, this is where the problem lies. Right.

So during the morning up until probably like mid-afternoon, you can be pretty sure who's driving the car. This speeding ticket was at 4.30 p.m. in the afternoon. Oh, anybody's game. It was on a day that he had off. But I also at the time was not working. But it was the car that he drives. Because to get, to find out exactly who was driving, you've got to pay for a photo.

Is that a thing? It's not a pay for a photo. I don't know if, do you have to pay for it? Do you have to pay for it? Well, it's been ages since I had a car and a ticket, but I'm pretty sure you have to pay for it, pay for the photo, if you request to see who was driving. Because do you remember, there's always like at work, there's like, who was driving? I.

The Black Thunder. We don't want to pay to find out. Just own up now. Right. Yeah. Well, we had a big argument yesterday. Although, I mean, it's coming out of the... First of all, I want to tell you, it was 56 and a 50k. Oh, that's rough.

Don't whistle like it's a lot of money. How much is that? $30. Oh. Is it really $30? I know, like, what a waste of money. How much is that? $30. Oh. So... It's only $30. I know, like what a waste of time. And then you sent me a letter as well. You wasted trees sending me that paper.

Excuse me. Hey, Speed Racer, if it's going to slow you down. But imagine if the government was so shamed because of all their wastage of trees for parking tickets, they had to do an about face for a $30 fine. Like it should be more for a $30 fine. Yeah. Like, it should be more for all the admin involved. Oh, really?

Yeah, I would have thought at least, I thought the minimum was 80 bucks. Yeah. No, that's if you're going faster. 10Ks. But it was, yeah, it was only 30 bucks. So this is a speed camera, obviously. Yeah, and it's a joint bank account or whatever. But I was, like, not wanting demerit points,

and I didn't want that just on my name because I've only ever had one speeding ticket and it's when I had a restricted and I was in a really old car and I had to hoon to get up the hill. Yeah, right, yeah. I had to put my foot down. That's not an excuse though, Megan. I zoomed to get up the hill, but yeah, the police officer was like, change down the gear,

but I was like, I'm not good with gears yet. Right. That's the only speeding ticket I've ever got. So this is going to sully my name. No, but you don't get demerit points on a speed camera. I know, but it's still on my name. Right. And I'm pretty sure if we were together and it was that car,

he would have been driving. Right. So where did you end up with this argument? I paid the bloody ticket and it's still on my name. But also as an old duck you'd be better to take the blame for the ticket because his insurance premiums because he's such a young man

would go through the roof. That's why that car's under my name because it's cheaper. Yeah it's cheaper to have it under your name. Yeah. Yeah. That wouldn't be so funny if it wasn't true. Huh. Yep. But when is he how old is he now, Mr. Toyboy? No, he's 25 now.

Also, have you rung up to get cheaper insurance? Not yet. Chase it up. Because they don't automatically do it. They won't tell you. Don't they? I remember when I turned 25 and rang them up. They didn't do it automatically.

Do you remember that? That was a couple of years ago, sure. When the dinosaurs walked. Yeah, did you get the old rotary phone out? Unbelievable. Rude. Hello, I'd like to change it. What's your number plate?

A. The Bachelorette New Zealand ZM Wildcard. So the Bachelorette New Zealand is coming to TVNZ2. Casting is actually still open at tvnz.co.nz, but we are going to enter a ZM Wildcard. We have picked our top three, and each day we are going to enter a ZM wildcard. We have picked our top three, and each day we're going to introduce you to one of these guys.

This morning, I'd like to introduce you to Michael Burns. Good morning, Mike. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for having me. Sorry, Michael or Mike? We'll just go with Burnsy. Burnsy! Oh, Burnsy! Okay. And you think you've got what it takes? Yeah, some people think I do. Warner Brothers think I do, apparently, because I put my thought to you guys. Okay. And you think you've got what it takes? Yeah.

Some people think I do. Warner Brothers think I do apparently because I put my foot to you guys. Okay. Yeah. So you've been unlucky in love up until this point? Yeah. That's one way to put it. Okay.

So about why? So I'm just going to ask some questions I think that she might ask. Yeah, go for it. Yeah. Why have you not found love up until this point? I don't know. It just takes time and it's a commitment and typical avenues aren't working

and we've got pretty high standards so yeah, just a combination of a few things I think. Have you tried the dating app search? Yes, I have. I've tried the dating app search. That also takes a lot of time and a lot of money as well. And I don't know.

Yeah, it just hasn't really happened, I suppose. Mate, if you don't like spending time or money on women, I don't know if relationships are going to be for you. Yeah, maybe dad has raised me not quite right there. But you're dressed quite snazzy. Are you like a full-on professional dude? I do work a very professional job and my personal brand is something that I value quite highly.

So I always take that into account as well. Do you think there's space in your life for a female? I would say so, yeah, definitely. Always looking for that one person that you can trust and just count on whenever and, you know, that you can rely on them and they can rely on you and just that special connection, I guess, that you don't have with other friends and family.

Right. So what's your, not a list, but like what are you looking for in a woman? Maturity is definitely really important. Independence as well, not somebody that's too needy. Someone that's open-minded. I've, you know, been quite lucky in life and been to a few different places. So somebody that's too needy. Someone that's open-minded. I've been quite lucky in life and been to a few different places. So somebody that's, I guess, just culturally

open-minded and maybe just general smartness in somebody. Someone that likes the Gold Coast. That would be okay. That's big international travel there. The Goldie. Okay. Because you lived in the Middle East? I did, yes. I was there for

maybe 10 or so years all throughout high school. Came back to New Zealand four years ago. Right, okay. What would be your ultimate, like if you had to do

a date situation, what would you do? Where would you take someone? Like a first date or just like an ultimate date? Ultimate, let's go ultimate date.

I don't know. I guess it depends on the person. So probably think very, I guess, selflessly in terms of where that person wanted to go. But I definitely do something fun. I'm not massively into like history and artsy kind of stuff. So I'm quite into like thrill and adventure. So and the beach to somewhere with, with nice weather,

maybe like a theme parks and roller coasters. Are you a romantic, like lovey dovey kind of guy? Yeah, I can be. Yeah, absolutely. Okay.

All right. Well, we're going to meet our other, um, bachelorette ZM wildcard, uh, finalists in the next couple of days. And then on Friday voting will open.

So you can vote, uh, for the ZM wildcard on the Bachelorette. Good luck, Michael. Thanks very much, guys. Thanks for having me. Again?

It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas. I know. I know. That actually made me feel real good. And I know we say this every year,

but the year's going nowhere. Well, on Sunday, it'll be the 1st of September. We are 118 days away from Christmas. Is it four and a half weeks till daylight savings? Yeah. At the end of September, eh? Yeah. I think getting a light out there later at night.

I've noticed we're getting a bit more light at night. Yeah, it was like 20 past six last night. I thought it was still light out there. I could still see outside. If you're ringing your parents, that'll be a conversation. That'll be a chat topic over the next four weeks. Have you noticed on the way to work it's getting lighter in the morning, sorry? I have, actually.

Well, it happens every year, but it always surprises me. It's like a change of seasons It's just a nice change 118 days 16 hours 4 minutes and 40 seconds away from Christmas Wow And I've delayed this as long as possible

Hey Remember I always put my Christmas tree up at the end of October That's not that far away September or October It's two months away till I put up my Christmas tree up at the end of October. That's not that far away. October. September. It's two months away till I put up my Christmas tree. Well, these reports of Christmas have come in. We've received many, but this year I decided to be a little bit more strict. I was not accepting midwinter Christmas dregs.

The dregs of a midwinter Christmas. But even that's flown by now, so it's time to start dealing with it. Ellen writes in saying, Christmas penetration has hit Riverton. It was very festy last weekend. Festy. Yep. My sister lives in the South Island,

sent me a snap of the community Christmas tree in the main street. What? I'm just not taking it down. With a somewhat bewildered video commentary. Apologies in advance for the terrible photo quality, but here it is, and there is indeed a picture of a sort of a lit up Christmas tree.

Okay, so they're getting in early, or they just haven't taken it down? May as well just leave it up, though, right? Yeah, I reckon it gets to now. It's probably just a pine tree with lights in it, and then someone accidentally, they were like, this is unplugged, should I plug this back in? Someone's like, I don't even know what it. And then someone accidentally, they were like, this is unplugged. Should I plug this back in?

Someone's like, I don't even know what it is. Plug it in and see what happens. And they plug it in and it didn't change anything. Okay. And then they forgot about it. But then it got dark and it was the Christmas lights. Also to report, somebody has said that they've seen a Coca-Cola exhibition at the Zigit Festival. Didn't you go to the Zigit Festival?

Yeah. In Budapest? Yeah. And did you see the Christmasigit Festival. Didn't you go to the Zigit Festival? Yeah. In Budapest? Yeah. And did you see the Christmas display? No. The Coca-Cola Christmas exhibition? No. They sent me photos of this.

Does that sound like something Fletch would go to? Danny sent me a photo. Okay. Internationally. Right. From that festival, saying they had it. Meanwhile, Jessie has a report that Bunnings on Marshalls Road in Christchurch has a festive feel. They've started to sell the Christmas tree stands.

The plastic ones that have got the screws that you put the tree in and the water and then you screw it and it holds the tree up. All those hardware stores, Bunnings might attend. Get in early for the Christmas stuff. You're going to see lights and everything going up soon. The hardware is going to be popping out. Well, it's not only hardware, but of course Christmas stationery is massive. Warehouse stationery in Monaco

has all the requirements for make your own Christmas cards. Thanks to Catherine for sending those in. Well, you've got to get your arts and crafts done early.

Well, you want to get started. And Hayley sends in that she has spotted her first Advent calendars. And this is our first report of Advent calendars. Okay. And Advent calendars are one of the our first report of Advent calendars. Okay.

And Advent calendars are one of the keystones for Christmas. Of Christmas penetration. Yeah. So they count to the tally that we have. Okay. And that's what we do now. If you're new to the show,

basically we start spotting Christmas. I put in all the information I have into my Christmas calculator. And then we tell you how close to being fully penetrated by Christmas we are. Oh, right now, Christmas penetration is at... 10%. Ooh, it is beginning to look a lot like Christmas. Am I a bad person?

Okay, this is from an anonymous female and it's a dilemma she's having with her partner. So if that was in Spain, would we say la anonymous or le anonymous? La. La anonymous. La anonymous. That's the deal, right? Like one's masculine and one's feminine?

I don't know. Thanks. Hey, whatever. Oh, God, that guy on the radio bringing culture to the show. He tried and he was met with a Berlin Wall of ignorance. No, it's good. Good on you, sister. Cultural deprivation.

Anonymia or Anonymous. So you were wrong. Anonymia. Anonymia. Yeah. Anonymous. No, Anonymous is that guy that jumped off a waterfall and yelled his name as he went down. Anonymous Anonymous Yeah Anonymous No Anonymous That guy that jumped off The waterfall And yelled his name

As he went down Anonymous What was his name Spanish for anonymous Anonymous Anonymous Anonymous That is

The feminine And then Anonymous Is the masculine I like that Anonymous Anonymous I like that They've got masculine

And feminine things. Yeah, okay. Well, you didn't bring any culture to the show. You actually incorrectly brought culture to the show. Okay. Anonimo!

Apologies to any Espanol listeners this morning. So, this is an anonymous Anonima. Is that what it was? I wasn't even listening in the end. Sure. I am currently fighting

with my partner. We have been together a year. He doesn't like that I am still friends with my ex. It's not like that we talk every day, but we still message each other, and I know what's going on in his life, and he knows what is happening in mine. I think you can care about someone

and still want to be friends with them. There's certainly nothing sexual about it, but my current partner doesn't like it. Every time he starts an argument when he sees a message from him. So my question is, am I a bad person for still talking to my ex? Well, there's nothing sexual. I mean, she doesn't say how long they were together. The ex. Yeah. I'm assuming they were't say how long they were together. The ex. Yeah.

I'm assuming they were together long enough that they still want to be friends. What sort of flirtatious emojis? I don't feel comfortable participating in this one because I'm going to... Yeah. What sort of flirtatious emojis? Well, you wouldn't like it at all, would you? No. Nope.

Nope. But... Have any exes messaged Mr. Toyboy and you've had to say no? No. No. No, Have any exes messaged Mr. Toyboy and you've had to say no? No. No. No, I don't have this conversation. Or any flings? I don't.

You're. Are you picking a scab? You bitch. I love picking scabs. You know this. Are you. So early on in the relationship, there was. Yeah.

And they are no longer in contact, shall we say. No. Okay. I we say. No. Okay, I don't want to talk about it. Mommy put her foot down. This is a fear. This is a fear. Because while there might have been no feelings on his behalf, it wasn't his behalf that I was worried about.

It was the other person. But then you have to trust him that he's not going to. Oh, I don't. Yeah, I do. But I also don't. But you weren't angry at him, right? No. A little bit. Did you get angry at him? No, but this other person wasn't very nice to me either. Right.

Get out of here. Scoundrel. It was just like, they weren't nice to me, so you should. Okay. Yeah. And they're still sniffing around. Anyway. Still? No, no. Like when we had that conversation. Oh, they were then, right. But now they're out.

But now they're out of here. Got off the trail. Yeah. So I'm just saying like I probably wouldn't be comfortable with that. Right. I think if he's not comfortable with it and he's the one you're in love with or whatever, maybe like tone it down a bit. Yeah.

You know, like, I don't know. But then there's obviously nothing for them to hide. Like, they're just having a conversation. But they had like an intimate relationship. It's bound to be weird for the partner, right? To still be friends with him. Yeah. I don't know.

I'd feel weird about it. Well, especially if like you were the guy and what if the ex was hotter than you or cooler than you? Then you'd be jealous and upset, wouldn't you? Yeah. If he wasn't as hot as you or as cool, you'd be like, oh, well, I'm not bothered by that. But the other side of the foot, imagine being the hotter, cooler ex

and looking at the new guy and being like, what's he got that I don't? Yeah, true. What's going on here? I'm curious. I need to know. I'm a bit of a power play. I need to know. It's that right.

Yeah. I mean, I don't want to sound like full on or anything, but I wouldn't be okay with this. Oh, you don't sound full on. No. Did I make that sound cash? Yeah, so cash. Good.

Okay. Hiddling on things, marking your territory. Pretty cash. Yeah. Okay. Well, maybe you've been in this situation. Am I a bad person? We want to know what you think of her.

0800 dialials at M. You can text 9696. Is it okay to still talk to your ex? All right, give us a call. Am I a bad person? So we've received a message. Essentially, she is fighting with a partner they've been together for a year.

He doesn't like that I'm still friends with my ex. They don't talk every day, but they do know what's going on in each other's lives. They message each other every time there is a message, they get into an argument. So the question is, am I a bad person for still talking to my ex, knowing that it upsets her partner?

And people are really split on this. Yeah. And heated. I'm okay with this though, because not everyone thinks I'm like... Crazy. Full on. Yeah.

I prefer full on. Oh, right. Okay, yeah. Thank you. Multitude of texts. This one, she's not a bad person. He's jealousy and jealousy is an ugly emotion. He's jealous and jealousy is an ugly emotion.

No, it's not exactly jealousy. I see my ex, also low-key my drug dealer, once a week and sometimes catch up, go get dinner, have a session. My current partner loves my ex, but I also don't look at him like my ex anymore, just as one of my closest friends and drug dealer. So that's a complicated situation and I'm guessing entirely different. But then they've been together a year. If you've been with someone, say you've been with someone five, six, seven years

and you just fell out of love, you're just friends, there's nothing there, you're parted ways, you could easily be friends who've been a part of your life for so long. Are you trying to make me agree with you? I don't know. I'm just trying to see it from an angle where... Yeah. Someone says once you take the trash out, you don't bring it back inside. That's kind of what I think.

I don't want to call them trash. If it upsets her partner, she should stop and think about his feelings. Okay, let's take some calls. Courtney, is she a bad person? Hell yeah, she's a bad person. Okay. I've been in a similar situation where my partner was really good friends with his ex. Okay.

And when I got with him, I thought, you know, like, I'd be the bigger person and try and be friendly with her because that was just, to me, the right thing to do. Yeah. We ended up hanging out a lot, and then I ended up seeing texts from her later on being like, you used to think I was pretty and all this crap. And I was just like, actually, I don't feel like you've got the best intentions.

You want to have your cake and eat it too. So see you later. And they haven't spoken since. Yeah, see, that's fair. That's fair enough. So that's the thing. You might be able to trust your partner's intentions, you want to have your cake and eat it too, so see you later, and they haven't spoken since. Yeah, see, that's fair, that's fair enough. So that's the thing, you might be able to trust your partner's intentions, but what's the intention of the other person? And like, boys are just genuinely good-hearted, they don't think about what the messages might be sending, they're just like, oh yeah, no worries.

Or you're like, they're flirting with you, and he's like, no, they're not. And they're like, nah, exactly. Yeah, I hear you, girl. So, yeah, girl, they're flirting with you. And he's like, no, they're not. And they're like, nah. Yeah. Exactly. So, yeah, girl. 100%. I feel like. And like, it's the past, girl. Throw it away. Like, who needs it?

He obviously wasn't any good. So, bye. Yeah. Bye. We can be friends, Connie. Yeah. Thanks, you call Connie. Chris, is she a bad person?

No, she's not a bad person. I've had a similar situation where I've got an ex. Yeah. And I've got a current partner. And we get together for Christmas. We do things together. He is my best friend. We were together for a long time.

But to me, it's not even about insecurity. It's when you let go of ego. Right. It actually is an amazing thing when you kind of realise that people are all people. And like people saying like, you know, get rid of the trash, well that means that you're still hanging on to stuff, like anger, and it's kind of a really shitty way to feel and be, so I just choose not to feel like that. Yeah, that's really nicely said.

That's a good call. It's a person and relationship by relationship thing. Like, your ex might be just a really good dude. But the thing is I made it really clear at the beginning of the relationship with the current partner that my ex is actually a really awesome person when I'm not with him and that we are best mates. If we're going to be together, this is kind of how it goes. And I know this sounds really silly.

We go into partnerships with people, relationships. We don't have ownership over people. That's the difference. I think people get caught up when they're in a relationship. They take ownership of the person and we don't own anyone. Yeah. Good call. Megan, do you agree?

Sorry, but... No, you sound very wise. I'm just not as mature and wise as you. Megan, look, it's just taking practice. I probably wouldn't have had this conversation and agreed like this 10 years ago, but it just takes practice. And unfortunately, you've kind of got to look at yourself

and go, okay, what is my block that makes me feel this way towards my partner? That's it. Wise, very wise. Thank you for your call, Chris. Anonymous, is she a bad person? Yeah, hey, guys. Yeah, I think she is a bad person.

Probably a bit of a biased answer because I'm going through sort of something similar myself at the moment. Right. But, yeah, I do think she is a bad person. And taking on board what Chris just said. Yeah, I know. I feel a bad person. And taking on board what Chris just said. Yeah, I know. I feel so unwise at the moment. I was thinking I was wise.

But hey, I totally get where she's coming from. And, you know, I too tried to play the, you know, okay, understandable, you've got an ex that you're friends with. But a lot of what Courtney said is something that happened to me quite similar, you know, the ex was messaging inappropriate messages that probably shouldn't have been sent. So, yeah, that kind of interfered in our relationship and it put a lot of doubt in my mind. So, I do think that, like Courtney had mentioned, you kind of just have to put the trash where it belongs and move on.

And, yeah, I mean, some people can make it work, and hey, that's cool, you know. But if the ex is... But it's all about gut feeling. If you're feeling uncomfortable and you know something's going on, then... True. Anonymous, thank you for your call. Some text messages.

I'm the friend, and my husband is friends with my ex, as friends with my ex as I am. Yep. We're all into the same stuff right but his new girlfriend isn't keen on us

all being mates even though we've all known each other for over half of our life right yeah but she might warm up to it when she realises the dynamic

that it's a group situation yeah that there's casual friends it's different on each case isn't it yeah it seems to be if you have a child

I think that communication with your ex is absolutely vital. Yeah, true. Otherwise, saying hello on the street is okay, but you don't need to be texting and in constant contact, do you? No. The general... The vibe on the text machine.

So if you had to go for a percentage-wise, is she a bad person? It's pretty split. 50-50. Yeah. Someone did text in and say, the people agreeing are the red flags. That's a text message.

That's not what I said. That's not crazy Megan. Fact of the day, day could have had its own wild elephants. Ooh, okay. America could have had its own wild elephants. In 1861, when Abraham Lincoln became the president of the United States, he received a whole bunch of stuff from the King of Thailand, or the King of Siam, as it was known then.

Okay. King Somdech Phrar. That's a very long name. Okay. The King of Thailand. Yeah, King of Siam, as it was known at the time. He's the same king. There's a movie and a musical called The King and I.

Okay. About the King of Siam and a woman from Wales, I believe it was. And she goes over there and tutors his kids and has this relationship with him. And it's like this Hammerstein, you know those Hammerstein dudes that wrote the musicals?

No. Roger and Hammerstein? No. He wrote a musical about it. And it's been a movie and stuff since. So it's that same king. So cultured. Thanks. We just see stuff and we're like, we don't know. He sent a whole bunch of gifts.

He made a sword. He handmade him a sword. He said, here's a sword. Here's a photo of me. Here's a photo of my daughters. Here's two giant elephant tusks. Yeah. And then he said in his letter

that a nation as a continent as great as America should not be without elephants as they are the ultimate symbol of power and grace. Okay. And should you be willing to accept them, we will send you several pairs of young male and young female elephants to be turned loose in the forest of your choice.

Oh, wow. And he said, I haven't worked out all the shipping, but obviously they will breed to the point where they become... That's the worst. So you get to shipping and you select the shipping and it's 50 bucks to get to New Zealand. You're like, cancel. An elephant?

Yeah, I don't know how much it can be. It can be significantly more than 50 bucks to get there. So he said, we haven't worked our shipping, but if you want them, let's get our heads together and we'll sort out how. And what year was this? 1986. 1861.

Oh, right, okay. 1861. So it would have taken like a year on a ship or something. It would have taken ages. Yeah, okay. Like right ages. How many elephants could have fit on a ship in those days? Well, there's that guy Noah.

He got quite a few logistically. Oh, did he? All the other animals. Yep. Two of each. He stacked them. Yeah. So, I mean, I'm sure you could get a few.

Yeah, okay. So it could have been done. Yeah. So he said, but let us know. And what happened? TTFN. Ta-ta for now. Yeah.

And the administration of Abraham Lincoln replied Thanking him gratefully for his gifts that he had received so far But the gifts that I received during my time of president Will belong to those of the people of the United States Thus they'll go into the National Archives And they're still all there And they kind of dodged the whole elephant question. Right.

They kind of like, oh, da-na. Like, you guys are probably going to need them soon because humans are just going to start wildly disrespecting wildlife and just using them for whatever. So tusks and stuff. You'll need them for all those tourists that want to ride them. Yeah, yeah. Before there's a realisation that that's a pretty poor thing to do as well.

So they said, no thank you to the elephants. And the King of Thailand was like, hey, Siam was like, hey, no worries, bruh.

Yep. That's all good. Hope all's well. Maybe we could establish some trade. And that's when it kind of started. He realised that he had to branch out from his kingdom

and start trade with the West if he wanted Siam to be a... Right. And that's how we got Pad Thai. Bingo. And money bags. You got pad thai. Bingo. And money bags. You gotcha. You're damn right.

Yep. Delicious. And a green curry. Yep. Green chicken curry. It's also good. Yeah, that's all I meant. What are you just naming

all your favourite Thai dishes? Now I need to have Thai for lunch, I think. It's all fairly delicious. It is, yep. So today's... Sticky rice. Yeah, but I don't know if...

I don't know. Sticky rice isn't specifically Thai. Is it not? It's just a whole Asian situation. Bit of mango on there. Mango sticky rice. Haven't made a tom yum soup for a while either. That could be on the car.

Oh, you're the king of tom yum. I was just talking about your tom yum soup the other day. It's good. It's good. It was a great tom yum soup. You did really good. Thank you. I'm afraid to really...

Do you make your own spice paste for that? I have in the past. It's just easier to buy it, though. It's a lot of work. It's a Do you make your own spice paste for that? I have in the past It's just easier to buy it though It's a lot of work It's a lot of effort Making spice paste Well today's fact of the day Is that Abraham Lincoln

Turned down the chance To let America have its own elephants Fact of the day Day day day day Tay, tay, tay, tay. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. The girls had swimming lessons and I went.

I. Is it boring? Do you just have to watch them swim? No, it's a valid question. I feel like when you've got your own kid, you'll understand. But I'm just going to... That's a fair call because I would have thought the same. But it's weird because when it's your kid, you'll watch.

Oh, my God, they can swim. But then what? They're doing so well. Because it's like an hour. No, no, no, no. It's only half an hour. Oh, right. Okay.

I can see why my parents didn't come to my sports day. And they both swim at the same time. Right. So I'm watching that one, then I watch that one. How do you split your eyes evenly? Well, their head's underwater most of the time. They'll be like, I'd still be bored. Dad, did you see that?

I'm like, sure did. I don't know. I was looking at something else. Right. I just found Netflix on my phone. So I was sat down and my phone was sitting beside me. Yeah. And there's always like other parents and other kids and stuff around

and there's like little toddlers walking around and he walks in front of me like two or three. Between two and three. Okay. Two. Okay. So let's settle on two So Totals in front Looks at me

And I'm like G'day mate Because that's how I talk To everybody Regardless of age I've just decided I'm not gonna like Pander to your age

When I talk I'm just gonna talk How I talk G'day mate And he walks past And then he walks back past And he looks at me again And I'm like

G'day mate And then Shadow he walks past and then he walks back past and he looks at me again and I'm like, g'day, mate. And then Shade messages me to ask how it's going. So I'm on my phone and he walks back past and he looks and he looks at my phone. Yeah. And he's like, phone. I hear him say phone. Oh, okay. I'm like, yeah. And so I send Shade, it's going great. And I

put the phone back down and then he toddles up behind me and walks along where I'm sitting and picks up my phone and walks away with it. Because obviously this is how, like, I'm sure, I can't speak for every parent, but I'm fairly sure I'm speaking for a majority of them. When you need to get something done, you give the child a screen

just to get something done. And even if it's to their detriment later in life, it's making your life easier at the time. Yeah. Or if they end up programming the computer that, you know, colonises Mars, you can be like, well, they said too much screen time was a bad thing,

but I think we can all disagree. Yeah, true. I've just colonised Mars. So he picks it up and walks away with it and I'm like, oh, hey, mate. And the mum's like, ha. And? So I'm looking at the mum being like, get the phone off your kid.

Yeah, whose responsibility is this? Because if it was my kids, I would have been like, hey, hey, no, no, no, no, no. That's not ours. We don't touch that. That that's not ours you pass it back to that man and i would say that man yep that homeless looking man back to that man who i've seen watching his children and i've waved at him so i know he's okay yeah at the swimming lessons pass it back to that man that's what i would have been like yeah Yeah. And she was like, ha. It didn't do anything. And I was like, where's my phone?

My phone's getting further and further away from me on concrete. Yep. And they're a pool. In the hands of a toddler. In the hands of a child. Yeah. And it's wandering further and further away from me. Yeah.

And then he turns around and starts toddling back. And I'm like, that's when mum's going to be like, give it to the man. Yeah. There's no, and he comes back and I'm like, thank you. And like take it off him in that thank you tone. And he's like, ah. Like, you know when you take something off a kid like that?

Yeah. And I look back, I'm thinking this is when mum's going to be like, leave the man alone. Yeah. And she's like, I'm thinking, this is when the mum's going to be like, leave the man alone. Yep. And she's like, oh. What? Like you're taking a toy off him. Yeah, like I'd taken something of his off him.

And I was like, what do you do? Yeah. Thankfully, it was getting right towards the end of the swimming lessons. Right, okay. So that awkwardness didn't have to last for too long. Oh, kids. God, they're annoying aren't they

yeah I don't know I feel like I handled that okay but I feel like she's gonna be like so we went to swimming and you know how he's just such an

inquisitive little man he's just always out there exploring such a personality and he picked up this guy's phone and I could tell immediately this guy

was just some sort of child hater he cared more about his phone than he did about children. And he toddled off, you know, how fancy he is and how quick he can be. Toddled off down there with the phone and then turned around and brought it back. Obviously going to give it back to the man.

He wasn't going to steal it or anything. And then this bastard just grabbed it off him. Just snatched it straight off him. We don't snatch in this house. Now he's going to start snatching off his brothers and sisters and it's all because of old snatchy McMits at the pool. She's going to give you dark looks every time she's going

back to swimming now. Yeah, so I feel like that's going to be the two sides of that story told. Yeah, right. Do you know the child in the pool that she was watching? Do you know who's mum? No, no, no, I didn't catch all that. Right right it must have been because yeah we got packed up and left you should take a super soaker to swimming next

a little water pistol just because they're already wet yeah exactly just to get them away shoo oh like a cat yeah or one of those little what's that a tennis racket that your parents have got to swap flies i don't think that's appropriate. That'll get them away. They won't be touching your phone. I just politely took my phone back. I don't know how she's going to feel about me electric tennising, racketing a kid. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast.

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