ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - February 12 2019

Episode Date: February 11, 2019

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Welcome one, welcome all to the Fletch, Vaughan and Megan podcast brought to you by Spark. Get four gigs of bonus data on Spark's $49 prepaid value pack. Now, on with the podcast. Thanks, Anya. Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Well, we'll move the show to Hungary and have four children and only be the mother of them. The father still has to pay income tax. Oh, the father still has to pay tax. So that means you've got to have four kids and go back to work. Sounds easy.

Yeah. Sounds easy. Piece of cake. Sounds like moving to Dubai for all those tax-free dollars. Yeah. Total piece of cake. Also, it seems nuts In the modern world To be like

You know what we need? More humans I know I understand that You know the next generation They pay the tax And it helps the old people And the aging population

But it just seems nuts We're like We need more people Yeah let's overpopulate This already overpopulated planet Yeah There's lots of people Why not just take some

More immigrants and stuff? Probably having a coup to them. No. Alright you lot, listen up, it's story time. Story time and the news. I've got three headlines. Vaughan and Megan pick one of the following three headlines. Headline one,

phone scammer meets his match. Headline two, murder suspect pleads for police to arrest him and headline three man car shares man cashiers pleads to be arrested what was the first one again phone scammer meets his match. That one. I think. Number one? Yeah, the old phone scammers. Okay, all right. So they call for one? I just have a chat.

Just have a chat. See what they've got going on. Yep. Make them think they've got me. Well, it's quite a big thing in America, isn't it? The phone scam. I mean, I don't have a landline for, I can't remember how long. No, but they call your cell phone.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, I don't answer those. Had an unknown number the other day. I was just like, straight to voicemail. Hang on. I read divert. Ignore. Who's caught? They'll text if it's important. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't cleared my voicemail for like years. I don't know. No, neither.

What if I do bring up voicemail? My voicemail for like years. I don't know. No, neither. What if I do bring up voicemail? My voicemail says, do not leave a voicemail. I don't check these. Do not leave a voicemail. Well, I tried to go through them once and then like to hear a message, but I had to go through like 10 or 15 others.

And did you hear any important ones? No, I just stopped because it was like, there was heaps of messages. It's usually just seven from my mum being like, hello, it's just me. Hello, it's just me again. Just text or call back later. Well, it's a big problem

in America, obviously the phone scam and a Jamaican man, he's a phone scammer, or he was because this happened a couple of years ago. It's in court at the moment, which is why it's in the news. He picked William Webster, who is now 94 years old,

and his wife, Linda. Now, they were targeted a couple of years ago by this Jamaican man who peddled a lottery scam over phone calls and then emails. So multiple phone calls. He also threatened them and told them their house would be ablaze and he'd have a sniper shoot them if they didn't pay him thousands of dollars in cash. Oh.

So this is a bit different to the old, we're from the bank. Yeah. We just want to put some money into your account. I think that's how it started out. But what he didn't know is that now 94-year-old William Webster was the former head of the CIA, one of the actual early heads of the CIA. I was going to say, at that age, he was probably a founding member.

Yeah, and also the FBI. So he headed, at stages in his career, the FBI and the CIA. So he's old, but he's not stupid. He's not stupid, and he's still got contacts at the organisations. And so he was like, well well I'm not going to be threatened by some man over the phone and that's when he called in some favours and called in his old workplaces and this man

is now in court facing a raft of charges. So not just any 94 year old doddery man. No, 94 year old CIA agent. Yeah. Founder. I know,

and look at him. He looks good for 94. He's flying his cover though. Once you leave the CIA can you still tell? Oh, is it? That's a disguise.

Like Mission Impossible where they print out a new one. That's why I said he looks good for his age because that's the mask of an 80-year-old. Simon Pegg's printed him out a little.

Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise mask. Brilliant. Don't mess with old boys, you just don't know what they've got going on. Yeah. He was the third director of the FBI, appointed by President Jimmy Carter. And then he moved to the CIA's top position in 1987. Wow.

Yeah. Also served as a federal district and appellate judge in the 70s. And then remained a chairman of the Homeland Security Advisory Council. So he called the wrong person. He's done all the big dogs then. Yeah, I know. Homeland Security, FBI, CIA, and he's been a judge.

Yeah. Wow. And then he gets a call from a phone scammer. Sorry, mate. You called the wrong old boy. FM. So I've got a little something, a little tidbit that scammer. Sorry, mate. You called the wrong old boy. FM. So I've got a little something, a little tidbit that can help you in the bedroom. Okay.

Vaughn. Is it those Velcro things? I mean, Fweetch doesn't need any help. Is it those Velcro things that hold the curtains together so the light doesn't come in when you try to have a sleep in? Sure. Velcro. You put a little Velcro dot on the back of the curtains and it goes and it holds them

together. Oh, so no light comes in. Yeah. That's a good idea. As you know a little Velcro dot on the back of the curtains and it goes, and it holds them together. Oh, so no light comes in. Yeah. That's a good idea. Because you know I don't like any light coming in. Nah, I mean, well, bedroomers and like sexy stuff. Okay. Oh, don't just limit yourself to the bedroom.

Yeah, okay. Well, I just know that you tend to. God, I'm not sitting on your couch when I come over then. No, you know he likes the comfort of his own bed. Yes, yes, I do. Likes to be comfy when he's doing it. On the rare occasion. I like to be comfortable.

So, if you're looking to spice up your sex life, then scent is something you should look into because there's been a German study. Research has measured... I don't know if we should trust the Germans when it comes to sex. Why? They do wee-wees on each other.

I don't know if you can just say that they all do that. No. It's a big German thing, isn't it? And how do you know that? I don't know. It is weird that I've just been pinned with that. There must have been some high-profile situations. So the German study has found that they use sniffing sticks

and strong senses of smell and people who have a strong sense of smell have more orgasms. More or better? I've said it now. More. Because sometimes more isn't better.

If you're blocked up, you're not going to have as... So just before you start having sex, put some Vicks Vapor Rub under your nose. I mean, like for females, there's lots of females who don't experience as many as others. Right. Are you right?

Sorry, my voice is... And then it might be something to do with your sense of smell. Then they were like, okay, given that, let's see if you can increase the quality by using smell. And apparently there is a relationship between good sex and scent. Well, you'd think it's a sensory experience. Sex.

Yeah, touch. Touch. What are the other senses? See, like vision, like seeing things. Like locking the eyes. You just want to see something that you like, don't you? Yeah. Oh.

And then there's feel, taste. Yep. Yep. But no, but like if you're kissing someone and their mouth tastes like socks, then you're not going to be into that. That's going to be non-arousal. Yeah. If you're not into poor mauls, maybe poor mauls are your thing.

Maybe it gets you going. What's the other one? Hearing. You want to hear that you're doing okay. You want a bit of feedback. Yeah. A little bit of... Oh, dear me, that's nice.

When they say smell, do they mean you should be wearing like a good cologne or something? Well, you'd think so, but I'll get to that in a second. Why not? Because whenever we talk about smells, it's always like pheromones and musky sweatiness. So specifically for females, they have found that the smell of cherries, barbecued meat, Yes girl! Let's get it! And men's cologne all inhibit female sexual arousal.

So you're barbecuing your way out of the bedroom daily. I thought you were going to say it was good. Cherries. I don't know why. That's just one of the ones that don't smell good. Pops up there. Really? Okay.

Donuts, black licorice, and pumpkin pie. Oh, no. Donuts. I put these around the wrong way. All great smells. Yeah. Licorice is yuck. And, of course, the smell of chocolate.

So, like, the taste of. Great smells. Yeah. Licorice is yuck. And of course the smell of chocolate so like the taste of chocolate brings happiness but apparently even the smell of chocolate can bring happiness and help enhance.

Should you have a little like bowl of coffee beans before just so that you can clear your palate? You know like when you go at a Judy Free

and you're trying on all the different sprays? Coffee beans at the door. Smell this and then you have a little ramekin to the restroom. A little ramekin, yes. And then you're trying on all the different sprays. You just have coffee beans at the door. Smell this and then you have a little ramekin. To the red room.

A little ramekin, yes. And then you're like, now sniff these donuts. Okay, let's go. Let's get it on. Okay. Yeah, so you do have to be very... So if you were going to take one condiment into the boudoir, it would be chocolate sauce for the taste and for the smell.

Yeah, yeah. Exactly. For the sexy time activities taste and for the smell. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. And for the sexy time activities. A good chocolate, though. Yeah. Like melt down a bar of Whittaker's. No, because it's hot. Oh, right.

Okay, right. Yeah. You don't want to burn anybody. And if you are. I was thinking that choc whip stuff. Oh, okay, yeah. If you are going for a cologne, they say musky ones are the best. There you go.

I got sent one. You know that Joe Malone, we talked about Jo Malone how that card came and I thought someone stole it so they sent the card and not the perfume there was a bit of confusion an error

they sent me the perfume and I took it home and I sprayed it and it immediately took me back to Catholic Church like our

Catholic Church growing up was always someone had never opened a window it always smelled really like musty and musky

and leather and wood and. I don't know if that's kind of... And leather and wood and brass. I immediately smelled it and I was like, huh. I don't know when they anticipated this free publicity, when they sent you this perfume board, if that's what they wanted. Well, they got the name dropped on there sometimes. Right. But I don't think they're going for a musty church.

That was just me. But I kind of liked it, but it was associated with being bored out of my mind for like an hour at a time every Sunday as a kid. It's not called like prayer or choir boy or anything like that, is it? No, that's bad marketing. You certainly wouldn't call it Catholic stink. You've got a musky collection because that other one smells like a musky Prius, a taxi or an Uber.

It does smell like a car that has windows that can turn down too often, yes. But I like the musky smells. No, I'm more of a fruity. You are a bit more fruity. You love a fruity stank. It's better than a musky Prius, isn't it? Fletch, Vaughn and Megan. The podcast.

Over the school holidays, Waikato police are looking for two men who over the school holidays broke into Tarapa school and skinny dipped in the pool. Okay. Yeah, this happened at one o'clock in the morning, mostly, and the security camera catching them. But they cut through the wire fence. Now, it's one of those wire fence, one of those crisscross wire fences.

Have you ever seen it being made on YouTube? I've never seen them being made, but they're the ones that they'd cut through in like a World War II escape movie, eh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Super hypnotic to watch. Right. To watch it be made because it wraps the wire around it and then wraps it around the one next to it.

Because they're intertwined, aren't they? Yeah, yeah. To cut that, you've got to cut each individual. Yeah, you've got to go around it and then wraps it around the one next to it. Because they're intertwined, aren't they? To cut that, you've got to cut each individual Yeah, you've got to go up through and then pull it apart and go through. God, take you ten minutes? So are they more angry about the destruction of property than cutting of the fence? Yeah. That's the problem because the school's going to have to pay for the fence and the schools aren't overly

well funded. I don't know if you guys are across that. But they've got to take the money away from other stuff that the school would have spent it on to fix the fence. Right. Yeah. So the photo that you've got there is not clear. It's not a great

photo. You can identify three perpetrators, apparently all naked. Right. I would have put the photo up where you saw more genitals. That would have... Well, I saw a news the photo up where you saw more genitals. I know. Well, I saw a news story that Headline was, can you identify these three grey blobs?

I was like, ouch. If you'd called me a grey blob, I would not be coming forward. Yeah, but it's just after that summer period. Christmas, New Year's, bit of a blow out there. We all had a bit of a blob. So rude. Grey blob. And that's their fault for not having security cameras in colour. That's the only reason they're grey.

Well, that's what they should do next is say, well, look, you've got a week or you've got till Friday to come forward. Yeah. Otherwise, we're going to show everybody your genitals. Right. And, like, if you're okay with your genitals, then you might not come forward. But if you aren't and you don't want everybody seeing, well, you'd come forward before Friday.

Okay. But then if that's the best quality don't want everybody seeing, well, you'd come forward before Friday. Okay. But then if that's the best quality photo they've got of their faces, I wouldn't be too worried about being identified by my genitals. Or then they find you and people know that those were your genitals. Is that what you're thinking? Or there might be a tattoo there. Someone might have like a... Right, like a really distinctive...

I would say, I would put that in the press release. You've got a very distinctive mark here that we can identify you by. But then like when they like, when you're trying to identify them, do they have to pull their pants down? Well, that would be a good line-up. You don't often see that happening on telly.

An eatery in Queenstown has got a massive celebrity shout out this went crazy yesterday because we were like oh my god someone's mentioned something in New Zealand but you remember

when Reese Witherspoon was here in 2017 with Oprah yeah and Mindy Kaling yep A Wrinkle in Time

A Wrinkle in Time yep the movie it was weird did you watch it yeah what was it about It was weird. Did you watch it? Yeah. What was it about? It was like traveling through.

Full blown. You get stuck in the, yeah, I can't explain it. Oh, right. Okay. Yeah. Well, you've seen it and you can't explain it. So that's not a good premise for a movie, is it? Yeah.

Yeah. And I just watching Oprah, I just felt like I can't get past the talk show thing. Right. I just felt like she was't get past the talk show thing. Right. It felt like she was still talking to us on the talk show. But yeah, I mean, judge for yourself. Anyway, they filmed it in New Zealand, so we should be supporting it. But while she was filming it, she tasted some of the best pizza she's ever had in her life. And so yesterday, she said she did her top five must-visit eateries in the world that she's been to.

Because it was International Pizza Day. Right, okay. So she was like, these are the best pizzas I've come across. And number two was The Cow in Queenstown, New Zealand. She said, when we were filming A Wrinkle in Time, Mindy Kaling and I made it our mission to check out all the local eateries. She said the Cow is the most precious little pizza spot in Queenstown, a must visit. So there's one in Wanaka and one in Queenstown?

The Cow. Because I've never heard of it. I've never heard of it either. Nah, so there's one in Queenstown and one in Wanaka. Oh, we simply must next time we're in town. Oh, we simply shall. Yeah. We'll have to stop ourselves from having a Ferg burger.

Well, it's around the corner from Ferg burger. Oh, no, you don't want to walk past. And also around the corner from Winnie, because we always do pizza at Winnie Bango. Winnie's is your pizza spot. We've got to branch out then. Yeah. Well, they've put it on their gram as well,

but you need to get laminating. If I ran, I'd have a giant poster in the window of her Instagram. Grace Winspoon endorsed. Yeah, because you know when you go to like a Thai restaurant and they've had a review

in the local newspaper and they cut it out and laminate it and put it in the window. They pop it up. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be proud like that.

They do spaghetti as well. It's spaghetti and pizza in Spaghetti House. Right. I'm looking at the menu now. Are you deep in the menu? I'm deep in menu. Because she Right. I'm looking at the menu now. Are you deep in menu? I'm deep in menu. Because she put that as number two, her second favourite.

So I was trying to find out what her number one favourite was. So it's like just literally there's no, because I was like, is it going to be wings? Is it going to be ribs? Right. Get a little pizza, get a little wings. Get a little pizza, get a little ribs. Yeah.

No, sir. Oh, okay. They just special a little pizza, get a little ribs. Yeah. No, sir. Oh, okay. They just specialise in... They are large and heavily garnished. Oh, they said. Good, okay. This is how they describe their pizza. Big one will sit you back.

What are you after? Oh, big one. Yeah, but what flavour? Oh, just like to meet. I just like a margarita. I don't like too much stuff on it. Oh, God. Live a little.

No, but... How the Italians intended it. But like, over 30 bucks is the cheapest pizza. There's a plain cheese and tomato. But they're big,

aren't they? They're big New York style. Yeah, they look big New York style. 14 inch pizzas. Is it too early in the morning for pizza? Because now I'm really hungry.

They have a breakfast pizza. Breakfast, right, which is egg, bacon, cheese, some jalapenos. And more bacon.

Just anything you put in an omelette really, on pizza, because it's like toast. From the ZM Think Tank, this is the Top Six. Hello there. Welcome to today's Top Six. You may know if you're a listener to the show, a regular listener, that we're big fans of vaccinations here.

We're not fans of dying of things from diseases like diphtheria, mumps, whooping cough, measles, rubella, all your hepatitis Isis, the flu, tetanus, polio. All these things eliminated by wonderful advances in medical science. Now, we're big fans of it, but not everybody is. Thanks, anti-vaxxers. Because at the moment, measles are around the world making a comeback like John Travolta when he was in Pulp Fiction.

Everyone had kind of forgotten about John Travolta and then he was in Pulp Fiction and he got a whole lot more work. And now we've forgotten about him again. Again. Which is good. I'm happy that measles may indeed go the way of Travolta again. And. Again. Which is good. I'm happy that measles may indeed go the way of Travolta again. Yeah.

And one day they'll be somewhere with a shaved head and we'll all be like, you look way better measles, but don't come near me. I never really delve too much into the world of anti-vaxxers,

but what do they believe that there's... That there's the extremely low doses of things found in vaccines are poison, that fever's caused by putting, so

when you get a vaccine, it could be it could be a very tiny amount of the dead virus, so your body knows how to fight it, so if you come across it, your body's already sussed with how to get rid of it and fight it. Some can cause like a mild fever and they believe those, it

can lead to autism. Right, and also at the extreme, people think it's government mind control. Yes, at that extreme end of things. Quite a fiery bunch. But also anti-vaxxers typically are of a generation that never had to face any of these diseases because their parents vaccinated them. Yeah.

And they didn't see. Now you read all the stories of people losing their children and it's horrible through a silly, ill-informed mistake that they don't vaccinate their children. And then they lose them and it's too late. And then they're like, I should have vaccinated my child. Sadly, it's too late for the kid. And they've both died of measles.

There are like kids now, a guy on Reddit kind of has hit the news in the last week because he went behind his parents' back. Posted on Reddit. Yeah, said, how do I do this? I'm surprised I'm even alive. So he went and got vaccinated because a lot of these vaccinations, it's never too late.

No. Unless you've got it and you're dead, then it's a little bit too late. But otherwise you can. So today's top six is the top six other things anti-vaxxers kids are doing behind their parents' back. Number six, taking Panadol and a raft of other modern medicines for the ailments that they are experiencing that medicine has an answer for. Thanks, medicine.

But I'm just going to sneak in. Are you taking ecstasy? No, just Panadol. Don't tell me. Number five on the list of the top six other things anti-vaxxers kids are doing behind their back, Practising safe sex. Because you know latex condoms aren't good for you if you eat them. So in anti-vaxxer logic, they can't be used for anything.

Sure. And the pill. And the pill. Yeah. How does that work? Magic and government mind control. You're going to get so much hate. No, I'm not.

I honestly believe they're a vocal minority. Okay. Anti-vaxxers. One hundy. Number four on the list of the top six other things anti-vaxxers kids are doing behind their back. Saving for their retirement. Because thanks to vaccinations and advances in medical science, they might actually live long enough to have one.

Yeah. But that's also a joke because we all know teenagers are no good at saving money. Yeah. No one basically up to like mid to late 30s is no good at saving money. Number three on the list of the top six other things anti-vaxxers kids are doing behind their back. Going to the dentist. Okay. You know the dentist uses all sorts of drugs.

Drugs. Yeah. To stop pain and stop rotting teeth. What have those villains got in them? Oh my God. Fluoride. That have those villains got in them? Oh, my God, fluoride. That's government mind control. Number two on the list of the top six other things

anti-vaxxers' kids are doing behind their backs, as well as getting vaccinations, making sure they're wearing their seatbelt when they drive their car. Because you want to do things as safe as you can. Or not. I won't be told what to do. Number one on the list of the top six other things anti-vaxxers' kids are doing behind their backs,

not charging their crystals when it's a full moon. Just chucking them on the windowsill to get river and crystal off their back, because that's mum and dad, but they don't want to be called mum and dad, they want to be called river and crystal. And then just going back to try to find someone to immunise them against preventable diseases.

That is today's top six. There's a new wedding theme that seems to be getting weight. So if you look on Instagram, there's the hashtag Tinder wedding. And it seems to be like a fun way for couples who have met on Tinder,

they make their wedding Tinder themed. Or it could be before. Yeah, but you think about it now. How long has Tinder been around for? For ages now. There would be so many Tinder themed. Or it could be 17 hundred posts. Yeah. But you think about it now how long's Tinder been around for? For ages now. There would be so many

people that are now married and met through Tinder. Like it's not like it used to be oh don't talk about dating apps. Yeah.

You'd lie to people oh we didn't meet on there. How'd you meet? Oh we just yeah. There's not the stigma around it. So people are embracing it

and they're using like, it's a match at their wedding, like signage. We're talking like save the dates that say love at first swipe. Right. Tinder cakes. So they say it's a match and then they've got we swiped right. There's all kinds of ways you can like incorporate it into your wedding. But apparently people are just like embracing it now

and being like, this is cute how we met. We love it. Like it worked out for us. I guess because there's so many like stories of it not going well, when it does, you're like celebrating it. Yeah. We're a Tinder couple. It worked out for us.

Somebody here has their wedding favors as Tinder logos, like cookies that are Tinder logos and below it it, it says, it's a match. Yeah. Is that what happens on Tinder when you get a match? Yeah. Does it pop up? I don't know. It's a match.

Like, does it let you know? Like, if you swipe on someone. I've been on Bumble. Positive. Have I been on Tinder? I just go on Caitlyn's. I was going to say, you've been on Caitlyn's, but you've never used one, have you?

I've never used it, no. You used to swipe for Caitlyn, though, didn't you? Yeah, I've done it. Back in the day. He never used it, no. You used to swipe for Caitlin, though, didn't you? Yeah, I've done it. He was real loose, though. You'd swipe for everyone. Well, she couldn't be fussy. She's not getting any younger. She didn't even need it now, did she?

I've got a boyfriend, guys. Did you know that I've got a boyfriend? I haven't been told. And it's not even a Bumble or Tinder or... No, I know. I did this all by myself. It's a workplace. Are we this all by myself. Mmm. Um, yeah.

It's a workplace. Are we allowed to say that? What? Yeah. It's a workplace romance, isn't it? It's a workplace romance. Mmm. Is that allowed?

Is that against the rules? Um, no, but the CEO, Bogsy, remember he came in? He's very on board with it. He gave it his blessing. He gave it his blessing. He actually said don't stuff it up, eh? Yeah, yeah. I think everyone thinks that I'm going to stuff it up.

Like, everyone's worried about my end of the deal. Yeah. You can see why. Oh, okay. That's nice. Thanks, Leach. Would you have had a Tinder theme, though, if you'd met on Tinder or Bumble? Oh, yeah. No, I wouldn't tell people I'd met on Tinder or Bumble. See, that's the problem. There doesn't need to be this stigma around it.

I know, but so it's a bit tacky as a wedding. I'd be like, oh my god. What do you hear the story? Caitlin, there's like six figures of hashtags. 1,700 people. 1,700. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't offend anyone. Some woman's hijacked this hashtag, by the way.

Oh, right. Okay. That's the thing when hashtags get a bit of steam. Someone's like on there, like, should a man have to, one of the things is should a man have to consult his wife before giving his mother money? That's got nothing to do with Tinder weddings. Tinder weddings, oh right.

Unless she's looking for money for the Tinder wedding. No, well you're not going to give your mum money to get married, are you? No. But also yes is the answer to that question. Should consult. Yeah. Okay, yeah, no, I agree. Now, I've heard that this is a thing.

If you're on an airline website and you keep searching, like say you're like, oh, I want to go away this weekend. Like I was looking at some flights over Easter. I was like, you know, you want to go away here. So you search the flights. It's like whatever, 200 bucks or whatever, for example. You're like, oh, well, that's cool. I'll come back to it in a couple of days.

You search and the flights have gone up. Yeah. And you've always heard that's a thing, right? You've got to clear your cookies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the cookies. But I never really thought it was a thing, right? Like, I just thought that was just the internet. Like, I've never experienced it.

Right. Until yesterday. You experienced it. When I was looking at an airline website and looking at some flights for over Easter and I was, like, trying different, in and out flights for over Easter and I was like trying different, in and out of different places. Yeah.

And searching and just seeing what worked. Looking for the best fare and stuff. Looking for the best fare, looking for some different options. And I found this option and I kept looking and then it went up like $200, $300. That's not even a little bit, that's a lot. And I was like, this is in 20 minutes

of being in front of the computer. And the flight, so it was the same flight. It was the same flight and it had gone up, when I came back to search it again, had gone up $200 or $300. I forget exactly. But I was like, oh, I don't want to book that now because it's $200 or $300.

Effectively, they're punishing you for looking elsewhere. But I was still on their website. I was looking at other flights. Right, so now they sense an urgency. You're like, effectively, they're punishing you for looking elsewhere. But I was still on their website. I was looking at other flights. Right, so now they sense an urgency. You're like, this guy really wants this. He really wants this. And they put it up.

And I was like, oh, well, maybe lots of people are looking, and that's why it's gone up. And I remembered this thing, you know, that's like, well, this is what they do. So I was like, surely not. So I went to my bag and got my work laptop out. Yeah. Because I was on my desktop. Yeah.

And I put in, I went to the same website, put in the same flights, and they were $300 cheaper. And I literally held my laptop up next to my desktop and compared the flights, exactly the same flights, and they were like $300 cheaper. Are they allowed to do that? That is absolutely nuts, right? Because I'm sure I saw on the news that with

booking hotels, like hotel websites now, you know how you go back and then it'll be like, quick, it's selling out. So many people are looking at this app. Five people are looking at this exact room. They're not allowed to do that anymore, I don't think. They're calling them out on that. Oh, really? Because it's creating an urgency that's most of the time

not there. Well, no, it's not because... And it's the same with the flights. If you look and then go back, it's the same fear, but they've got you on your cookies or whatever on your computer so they can tell you're going back. It's creating an urgency that, oh my God, okay, they're selling out or whatever. Or it's only going to get more expensive, so I'll buy it now.

It's cheeky. It's really nuts. It is really cheeky. I just could not believe, because I'd heard about this, but to actually see it and know that they're doing it. It doesn't seem fair. It's cheeky. It's really nuts. I just could not believe because I'd heard about this, but to actually see it and know that they're doing it. It's not. How has somebody not left an airline and, I mean, this is obviously how it got out, right?

Somebody left and said it happened, but how has it not been a bigger thing? Like an issue, yeah. So I don't know if clearing your cookies on the, if you've only got one computer works? Yeah. Weird though, eh? I don't know if clearing your cookies on the one, if you've only got one computer works. Yeah. Weird though, eh?

I was just like, how is this allowed? Yeah. Like it seems like they shouldn't be allowed to do that. No, they, yeah. It feels very disingenuous. Why don't you? There's an ethical question at the very least. Because then I Googled up a little bit about it and apparently like this is like the way that things are going.

If you are like, obviously all your browsing history is in your browser right yeah so that if you spend a lot of money yeah or you buy like luxury goods or you depending on what you buy the some websites could put prices up oh because they know you're a high roller because they they yeah like if you're buying louis vuitton bags and you know business airfares and, you know, looking at luxury cars, they'll be like, well, this person's got money. Put the price up. We'll make that more expensive. What if I send emails to people all the time saying, help me, I'm poor. Like if I just flick my mama, I'll be like, mum, ignore the emails.

I'm just trying to fool the system. So I don't know what you do if you're buying flights. If you just clear your cookies and then search again when you know what flight you want. Well, just don't search on the same thing. Search on your phone and then search on your laptop later. Make sure you search on different things. Somebody said you are best, when you're searching for flights,

use private browsing or incognito or private mode. So that's for when you're looking at porn and when you're booking flights now. Right. So you don't want the cookies saved on your computer for flights. So that's the key. That's the key. For flights.

You should write a letter to... Whomever. The Commerce Commission. I'm sure they do. I've heard of them. They sound real. They're the ones having a go at Viagogo at the moment. Taking them to porn.

And out of all three of us, who's most likely to write a letter? Fledge. No, I'll just whinge about it on air. Right. Yeah. I'll get halfway through writing an email and save it in drafts. And then like three months later, be like, I never got round to that. Am I a bad person?

Valentine's Day special. We went all out for that Valentine's Day special. Yeah, we made it. We made it specially. Took a long time. Now, Megan, you've had an email. Yes. From, I'm not going to say, but it is a female.

Ask me a question. Normally, we had the people on. Am I a bad person? Yeah, this person doesn't want to talk. You'll kind of understand when I read it out. Okay. Reserve judgment until I get to the end, okay? Okay.

Hi, Migos. I'm hoping that you can help me with some advice as I'm totally stuck on what to do about my boyfriend on Valentine's Day. Things haven't been going great for a while, but over the weekend, I really came to the realization that it's time to call it. We still get on fine, but it's like we're just flatmates and not actually together. I feel bad breaking up with him right before Valentine's Day.

Plus, I know there's a sweet present. I can see why she's come to you. Am I a bad person for waiting till after Thursday to break up with him? Yes. No, but I... Nah. So, as Vaughn's been broken up with on Christmas Day... Present aside.

Don't, like, break up right before Valentine's Day. Yeah, it's like if it was their birthday. You just hang out there for a little bit longer. Yeah. My other question is, though, if you get the Valentine's Day present Do you have to give it back? Yeah Nah because it might be

It might be something you can use And just use it real quick And then like How long do you have to wait Like if you waited a week afterwards Then you're like Well I can keep that now Yeah

You've just like a gift giving stand down period Yeah But then you've also got to give a gift as well Don't you? Oh I didn't think about that It's like the girl thatgiving stand-down period. Yeah. But then you've also got to give a gift as well, don't you? Oh, I didn't think about that. It's like the girl that broke up with me on Christmas. It's never as good. Because she knows that she's breaking up with you. It's a token gift.

Yeah, right. It's like a good luck out there, champ, sort of. Do you remember what you got for Christmas from her? It was an egg. Yeah. And you broke up in the egg and it was a good luck dragon and the um dragon had a coin in its mouth now the coin could not come it's an i think i don't know see this is not a lot of thought put into this because i don't

believe in all that so excuse my language i just kept a little emotional still uh but it's like if the coin had fallen out of the dragon's mouth, that was bad luck. Well, the coin wasn't in the dragon's mouth. I think she got it and shook it until the coin, she heard the coin fall out. And then she was like, oh, bad luck. But what did you give her? Oh, like a raft of great things. Killing Heidi CD. It was 2001.

Right. 2000, actually. So it was a while back. She broke your heart. Yeah. But I mean, she should have done it before Christmas. Because. 2000 actually. Okay. So it was a while back. She broke your heart. Yeah. But I mean, she should have done it before Christmas because she's ruined Christmas day for you. Well, yeah, like quite a bit before.

So I knew not to buy a gift. Yeah. Yeah. Or just she could have said around, you know, November, keep your receipts. You might need to return things. Yeah, right. What for? Don't worry.

Don't worry about it. Just keep the receipts. But yeah, like if she breaks up with him. Don't buy anything on sale. If she breaks up with him before, Valentine's is always just going to be a little bit sour for him. Wait till after.

And you get to give an engagement ring. You've got to give that back. You'd have to give that back. Or you can say no. You've got to do it. I think you've got to do say no. Yeah. You've got to do it. I think you've got to do it before. I think you've got to do it now.

You think you're going to break up with him before? No, wait till after. It's never a good time to break up with someone, is it? It's not. You've just got to do it. He could. You're right. If he did it before, he could always take the present back.

But if you're going to do it after, you need to at least wait a month or two weeks. Ten days. Oh, I was going to say a week. Ten business days. Ten business days. You've got to wait for weeks. Ten business days after. And how do you know if it's a business day? If the postie ain't delivering, you ain't breaking up. Don't count those days.

No, the postie's hardly delivering now. That's not a good... Oh, don't go with the postie then. It's if there's a bank open. Bank open. What if it's a bank holiday? Just weekdays. Just weekdays. Just weekdays. So two weeks or two weekdays. Sure.

Ten weekdays. As we do with Am I a Bad Person? You can weigh in. You can weigh in. What do you think? 0800 dials at M9696 to text in. Maybe you've been in this situation where you've gone to break up with someone, but it's their birthday or it's Valentine's Day or it's Christmas, it's never a good time.

Yeah. So what should you do? Do it straight away or should you wait? And in this case, should she do it before Valentine's Day or wait until she gets a present and then do it after? And keep the present. When the heat's come off the whole day. Am I a bad person?

We're talking about a... A Valentine's Day edition. Oh about a Valentine's Day edition. Oh, Valentine's Day edition. Sorry. I looked at me, I was like, here we go. Megan got an email, somebody saying that she's realised it's been a long while coming, but it's over. The relationship she's in, she just doesn't want to break up with him

before Valentine's Day. It might taint the day. But also thinks there might be a gift on the way, which she shouldn't have tagged on in this email because I think she would have had people. But everybody who's anti seems to be focusing on the gift. Somebody said it all just seems that she's holding off to get the present. She's a very bad person and evidently quite selfish

because it just feels like she mentioned the gift like it's a real, let's see how good. Draw card. I hope it's a terrible gift. A terrible gift. I hope it's like a travel connect four. If it's a good one, she's probably going to have to give it back, right? Like if they give you a necklace. If you've ever played travel connect four, the things are tiny.

Oh, tiny. Horrible. They lose them so easily in the back of the car. Now, when you and your first husband broke up, this is BTB, before Toyboy. Before Toyboy. Didn't you have to wait until after his birthday? Yeah, I waited three days. I mean, I personally wouldn't have invited us out to the birthday dinner,

but, I mean, we were there. And it was not awkward at all. I waited three days after. Now, did you buy him a present? Yeah. Okay. Was it a good present? Shoes.

They were expensive shoes. Okay. Well, that's nice. So you didn't skimp on the shoes knowing I'm going to end this? No. Okay. Right. It's nice though.

It's nice of you. Was three days not enough? No. Wow. It was. Well, no Was three days not enough? None. Wow. It was. Well, no, as Vaughn and I previously said, I think you're on board with my 10 business days.

Yeah, I'm very much on board. The 10 working days after. Seven to 10 business days. It's like when you order something and they don't know how long it's going to take to get to you. Sure. Just take a shot of the dark. Rachel, is she a bad person? I think she should wait until after Valentine's Day.

I believe she's going to be sitting there alone on Valentine's Day, just like thinking about it. He's going to be sitting there alone thinking about it after Valentine's Day. It doesn't matter when really, does it? Well, no, but it is kind of like rubbing salt in the wound. And like you said earlier, it's going to be something, if you do it this close to Valentine's Day, it's just going to remind him of it next year as well when

it might be over. Valentine's Day, having that rubbed in your face when someone's just broken up with you. But see, I'd rather be told before so I could save the present. Like, to me, that would be... But why is he not doing a present? She says she knows there's a present.

She knows there's a present coming. So I mean, depending on how good the present is, I'd be quite upset. And how long after do you reckon then? I'd say at least a week. It happens every year. I don't think that one times day is huge, but it is enough to make it a little bit more miserable if it happens beforehand. Again, I think our 10 business days is a good waiting period. It's a great way to go through it. Hey, thanks you, cool Rachel. Anonymous, what do you think?

Is she a bad person? Short answer, no. But it is a shitty thing to do, to break up with someone at, like, try and pick it at an opportune time. No matter what the gift is, even if it's like the best necklace ever or whatever, it's always going to be tainted with the end of a relationship

so it's not going to be a good gift anyway. If I wear that necklace enough I think it will be alright. Wave some sage over it, give it a blessing. Get over it. Boogity boogity, it'll be all good. Or if you can still get some good money for it on Trade Me. Great way to get over

heartbreak. Sweet cash. No, we see what you're saying. Totally good point. Good point. Thank you for your call, Anonymous. We have another Anonymous who actually has a bit of experience in this situation. What do you think, Anonymous? I reckon she should just do it. My

boyfriend of four years had been away for a summer working for four months and he came back on Valentine's Day and broke up with me like that night when I went and saw him. Wow. Yeah.

Wow. Okay. Has that ruined it for you? No. Super. By the time the next year comes around you don't really think

about it anymore. Right. Yeah, you've kind of but then four years is a long time term. Yeah. And then go away come back and be like see you. You're over it but I'm peeved off for long time term. Yeah. That's a quick amount of time.

You're over it, but I'm peeved off for you like that. It's such a douchebag thing to do. But your point is you'd rather have had it on Valentine's Day rather than it kind of drag on. Oh, 100%. Okay. Did you get a present, though? No. Oh.

I want to soften the blow a little bit. Okay. Not even like a present. He'd been overseas working for ages. Oh. Oh. I want to soften the blow a little bit. Okay, thanks. What, not even like a prison? He'd been overseas working for ages. Oh, yeah, no, he'd been up north working. Oh, up north. Had he been... Did they get you some dirty free macadamia nuts or something at least?

No, no, nothing. Had he been working on another relationship? Well, yeah, so no, can't say for sure. Yeah, sounds like it, I'll tell you what. It's those Northland honeys. Might not think the best. Yep. It's those Northland manuka honeys, buddy.

There they get. Thank you, Anonymous. Now, do you want some more text messages? Yep, some text messages. You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. Break up on Valentine's Day and it will be, how could you do this to me on Valentine's Day? Wait until after that and it'll be like,

how long have you been pretending? It's never a good time to break up somebody. From Fletch. But it is selfish to think of the gift. So that's where it's not from Fletch.

Ah, yeah. Yeah. She'd be all about the gift. My current boyfriend was broken up with by his girlfriend of five years on Valentine's Day.

Great for me though because he turns up every Valentine's Day with like roses and everything. Oh, he makes a really big. Yeah. He doesn't want to get dumped on Valentine's Day again. Like I'd probably start about now kind of just ignoring

him and he'd be like, are you okay? You'd be like, I'm fine. Well, I'd treat him mean so he comes in hot. Yeah, he'd come in hot on Valentine's Day. Brilliant. So the poll that we had on our Instagram, is she a bad person? Nah, wait till Friday, 37%. So wait until after Valentine's Day, 37%.

Break it off now before Valentine's Day, 63%. Wow, okay. Saying just get it done. Break it off. Break the mandate off. Yeah. It's really easy to say that about somebody else's awkward breakup situation.

Yeah. Way easier than looking someone in the eye and being like, it's over. Let's talk about this tomorrow. Yeah. Valentine's Day on Thursday, we're reliving some of our favourite Swipe Mears. Hi, Liany.

Hi. Good morning. How long ago did this happen? About four months ago. Four months ago. Okay, it's pretty fresh. And just before you told us, it was a story of poor personal hygiene in the Wellington region. So a warning for females on Tinder in Wellington.

So it started on Tinder, so I'm assuming he looked okay. He looked amazing. Yeah? So you gave the odd swipe right. Were you in an immediate match, or did you have to wait for him to swipe back? It was a match straight away. Okay, so he already liked you.

So what happened, and where did it all go wrong? Tell us what happened. Well, so I thought he may have been my Tinder fella, and we spent weeks talking and snapping, so we decided to meet. Okay. He came and met me and went in for a hug and that's when the B.O. hit my nose.

Oh, no. Oh, no. But I gave him the chance. He might have freaked out on the way up. Yeah, okay. To come and see me. Yeah, he might have been sweating, he might have been nervous

and, of course, sweat leads to body odour. Go on. Who's going on a date, though, and not putting on deodorant? I'd be at the other end of the spectrum. I body odour going on. Who's going on a date, though, and not putting on deodorant? I'd be at the other end of the spectrum. I'd have so much on. Yeah, exactly. I'd have sanitary pads in my armpits to stop any sweat getting out.

I'd have lots of deodorant on. And back up in your car to put on before you get out the car. Correct. A fresh pad. Okay, so you give them the benefit of the doubt. What happened next? So the night goes on on and it's awkward silence and it's just obvious that I'm not interested.

Like, this is where it ends. Okay. I go to say goodbye and he goes in for the kiss. Oh, no. Just tongue and everything. The voice hit me next. Oh! Okay, so it's all areas here, Stinky.

So I pull back really quick to take a breath and that's when he puts three fingers in my mouth. What just happened? So you... What? Vaughn is on the floor. You pulled away. And he put three fingers in your mouth.

Because of course he did. That's my immediate reaction if anyone ever recoils in disgust. Quick, Vaughn, jam fingers in the mouth. Did he say anything when he did it? He asked me if I liked it. And he shook my head around like a dog shakes its head. Like you were a hooked fish. What?

What the? And she was. What just happened? Wow. Okay. K-Mod's just been like, this is going downhill. Let's just have a laugh.

He's like, what have I got? I'm on my backup chute. I'm plummeting towards the earth. What have I got to lose? Oh my God. Fingers, get ready. Wow.

And like, then what? Like, where do you go to from there? I God. Fingers, get ready. Wow. And like then what? Like where do you go to from there? I think he looked at the look on my face that I was, that was it. Like I was done. Yeah. Wow. I mean, he's obviously not picking up on social cues.

How long does he take to take his fingers out of your mouth? It seems like forever. I don't know. Wow. It would have bitten me. It will actually seem like forever when a stranger's fingers are in your mouth. Did he try to message you again after that or was that it? You never heard from him?

We didn't talk for a few weeks later. I then get an abusive text. That's not how I should treat my boyfriend. Oh, no. He sounds really controlling. He just sounds all round like you don't even want to talk to him again. So you need to block that number, Liany. Everything's been blocked.

Everything from just a simple, like, B-O. Everything's been blocked. Tinder, phone, mouth hole from having fingers put in it. I mean, all the blocks are in place now. Wow, okay. Good God. Thank you so much for sharing, Liany. A great warning for any females in Wellington on Tinder., okay. Good God. Thank you so much for sharing, Liany. A great warning

for any females in Wellington on Tinder. You be careful out there. Everyone, be very careful. Because there's a guy out there with, yeah, bad breath

and fingers. And trespassing fingers. So next, we're going to hear from Liany. Has she heard from the guy and is she in a relationship now? Two,

three, four, and then five, five, five, five, Has she heard from the guy and is she in a relationship now? And for Valentine's Day, we are recapping some of our favourite ever swipe mirrors. And we just heard Liany's swipe mare. If you've just joined us, just a quick recap. Yeah, so she thought he was going to be her Tinder fella in her words, but he had BO, he had bad breath, and you might remember this is the guy that shoved the fingers, three fingers in her mouth.

Good morning, Liany. Hi. Now, this is one of our all-time favourite Swipe Me's because this is one of the animated ones. It's awful. I get reminded every year and everyone has the same Facebook memory. And we just posted it again recently. Did you get tagged in that?

Not yet, but I'm sure it's coming. Yeah. So how has life been and love life since this swipe mirror? It's been pretty good. I decided that I was actually going to come out to everyone in my life and I have now been with my

partner for a year and three months. That's amazing! That's great! You're like one dude can definitely put you off men for life. That dude putting fingers in your mouth and shaking your head around. Yeah. Wow, that's amazing.

So how did you meet your now partner? Still on Tinder. Yeah. So on Tinder and then, yeah, it just went from there. A date led to more dates and now living with each other. Wow. Okay. Did you ever hear from, because I don't think we ever hear from anyone

that's on Swipe Mears that gets contacted by the person they're like, you know, ratting on. Yeah. We've never heard from anyone. Did he ever like get in touch with you and say, hey, you talked about me? No, he didn't. But it turns out my latest job is actually where he was working at the time. But he has gone.

Oh. Really? Have you told them that it was that guy? Has anyone made the connection? Yes, they have. Did he ever put his fingers in anybody's mouth at like the Christmas party and jiggle them around? No, unfortunately it was just me. Just you, you poor thing.

You poor thing. Oh no. Well, that's nice that you've got a great Valentine's Day coming up. Yes, hopefully. Yeah, well, yeah, I don't want to... Do you guys celebrate it? Do you have plans? Yeah, I always get a bigger and better bunch of flowers every event.

You're setting the bar high if you go big first up because then every year. You've got to have somewhere to work towards. Oh, definitely. Someone should change it up for a fruit basket. Sure. Well, Leanne, I'm so happy for you that you found someone much better than that original swipe mirror. Yes, definitely. And I hope you have a lovely Valentine's Day.

Thank you. You too. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Today's fact of the day. We all know how much money Judge Judy makes It's lots It's lots of money Judge Judy very

One of the highest paid television stars The highest paid Since Oprah got out of the game I think she's the highest paid She earned 47 million US dollars in 2016 So That's nuts. And she's been doing it for 21 seasons.

And it's a rough. I mean, it's not exactly great TV, is it? It's not Game of Thrones. It's trashy. No. Yeah. It's syndicated around the world and everything. However, here's something you might not know about this.

You know, the guy that stands beside her desk, the plaintiff. Yeah. And she's like, plaintiff, remove the... If someone gets too... Is he like a security guard? Yeah, it's something that courts have. Right. Bailiff.

Sorry, bailiff, not plaintiff. Yeah, not plaintiff. I was going to say that. The person that goes in there. Yeah. Yeah, bailiff. His name is Petrie Hawkins Bird. Petrie.

Petrie. Okay. He makes $1 million US dollars a year. Fromrie. Petrie. Okay. He makes $1 million a year. From the show? What? Yeah. For just standing there and very occasionally he'll interact with her. She'll say something to him and he'll be like, mm-hmm.

Like, that's crazy. But like literally doesn't have any other, not like a secret producer or? No. No other obligations. What a sweet, sweet gig. Apart from being a bailiff. And he's like, should we let bailiff remove the plaintiff?

Does he ever speak? Very rarely. Very rarely. But yeah, so he, and this is the other thing, they shoot a whole lot of episodes in just over a month.

So she's not working the whole year as Judge Judy. She cranks out the episodes when they're in the filming season. The producers and everything behind the scenes, I'm getting, I guess, getting everybody teed up to just flow through. So in like one day, they might be able to shoot like three or four episodes. Six or seven episodes. Yeah, right. Okay.

So he's standing there for a whole day's work, earning anywhere up to $12 million if they did 12 episodes. No, no, no. He's $1 million a year. A million dollars a season is what he earns. Right, a season. So they shoot about 260 episodes over 52 days each year.

Wow. So that's like five episodes a day that they're cranking out. And he stands there, does the work, occasionally gets talked to. And long days, but heck. It's got to be the easiest million dollars you'll ever make, right? Standing there and being like, well, that was crazy.

Yeah. And he makes it per year and he's been there for like multiple years. So he's doing quite well out of the whole situation. She must just really like him. And because obviously the show can't happen without her, she makes the calls on who stays around. Maybe he's like her crutch, you know? She feels more comfortable with him being there.

Yeah. Sweet kick. Oh, man, he's like, okay. All right, okay. Okay, I'm not going to play hardball with you. So his net worth would be quite, because I love Googling celebrity net worth. His net worth would be right up there.

Have you Googled it? I don't even know what his name is. I don't even know. His name's Petrie. He could walk past me in the street and I wouldn't even know. No, I know. Not Peachtree. Not Peachtree.

Petrie. P-E-T-R-I. Hawkins Bird, which is quite a good last name. Really high. Yeah, right. He's called Hawk. Okay. Hawk as in bird.

Hawkins Bird. Yeah, so he earns a million dollars a year from just standing beside Judge Judy. And so a couple of years ago, she was earning $44 million a year. Crazy. So apparently CBS make over $170 million US a year off Judge Judy. Just with the syndicated shows and everything. Because it gets sold all around the world. Yeah, sold all around the world.

And they can just crank out the episodes easy peasy. Quite a cheap show to make, I'd imagine. Yeah, they say production costs are minimal. That's how he gets that payday. Nuts. So today's fact of the day is that guy standing beside Judge Judy, he earns a million bucks a year. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. So there was a few interesting outfits at the Grammys yesterday.

Katy Perry as a car wash or a scrubbing brush or a tampon, my favourite memes. Kylie Jenner wearing a pink weird jumpsuit that I really wanted to like, but just... You couldn't? Couldn't bring yourself to do it? The one that is getting a lot of memes as well is Cardi B's outfit. So it was supposed to be Venus rising out of a scallop shell.

Hence why she had the little pearl on her belly button. It looked like a shell. Yeah. Okay. So it was representative. And that designer inspires a lot of Lady Gaga's outfits. So like right out there. Okay. So it was representative. And that designer inspires a lot of Lady Gaga's outfits. So like right out there. Okay.

But obviously it was pretty. Is it becoming the Met Ball? The Grammys? Yeah. Oh, there's always some artists who like go a bit bold and crazy. Because he was that one that went as the border wall. Oh, I don't even talk about her because she's an absolute troll. Oh, is she? She said, she

wore a dress that was the wall and it said build the wall on the back and she had barbed wire on her shoulders and stuff. Who was that? What's her name? She's an artist, but you search her red carpet outfits just constantly trolling with her messages. Oh, right, okay. Yeah,

but Cardi B, so once you actually break down the dress, I had no idea how she was going, Weez. Zero idea. Oh, so you wouldn't be able to go to the toilet the whole night? It looked like a bodysuit and then a skirt that was tight to her knees. So she could barely walk. She shuffled.

And then, yeah, I don't know about the toilet situation. Although she did change later on into a white dress. I was going to say, because she had to get up on stage, right? Yeah. She won awards. And then the cute pictures of when she met her idol Lady Gaga for the first time. She was wearing a white dress. Have you seen those pictures?

She's never met Lady Gaga before. She's her absolute idol. She talked three years ago about how she'd love to meet her. And then there's photos of it happening last night. And Cardi B's just losing her mind. She did a thumbs up photo with her. The classic don't know what to do with your hands. Yeah, it's really cute.

Yeah, chuck a thumbs up in there. Thank you. But given Cardi B's outfit and its functionality, I'd love to know when you've struggled in the name of fashion. It's maybe more for the girls. Well, yeah, because you just wear a suit. But then I don't like wearing ties and suits. I hate it.

I struggle the whole time. I'm just like, I need this off me now. Is it because you feel like you're choking or something? Yeah, and I just feel it's weird because I always just wear T-shirts and I'm just all comfortable in. But then I see like... But that's also not suffering. Producer Caitlin, any time you wear heels,

like if we go to the races or whatever, you're the whole time in pain. Oh, I can't walk for like a week afterwards. My feet get so munched up. But I refuse to take them off. time in pain. Oh, I can't walk for like a week afterwards. My feet get so munched up. But I refuse to take them off. Beauty is pain. You've got to practice beforehand. Yeah, I know.

Get your heel hours up. Yeah. And I probably should just get better heels. Yeah, break them in. Yeah. Yeah. You guys actually just don't know how hard it is to wear heels. But even if I was a female, I just wouldn't.

I wouldn't put myself through pain. But you do because they look cold. Yeah. It's like wearing a jumpsuit when you're going out and you literally have to

get naked to go to the toilet. You don't. Because like, you have to take the jumpsuit all the way off and then you take your undies off and then you're just naked on the toilet.

You're lucky you don't have urinals because that would look odd. It would look odd. It would be like when you're a kid and you take your pants right down to your ankles to go away it would be like that yeah sometimes they'll still do that but just just for fun just for a laugh just a laugh and the urinal or at home and i've seen him do it at parties yes i get a bit silly leave the toilet door open and pulls

his pants right down okay Okay. It's classic. Okay, so you want to hear from people that have, like Cardi B, worn an outrageous outfit or something. You've struggled in the name of fashion. Okay. It doesn't have to be Cardi B-esque. Well, nobody's going to a party dressed as a seashell, are they? Like Cardi B, really.

But maybe you've had a fancy dress costume, like, you know, the sevens or just anything. We've gone in a costume. And it's been hell. It's been a punish, a hell. Grammys yesterday, a lot of people talking about the dresses. Katy Perry has become a meme. A paint roller as well.

She shared that one. Yeah. She's got a good sense of humour about it. Cardi B's dress was a, she was Venus rising out of a scallop. But God knows how she moved or sat or did anything in that dress. Yeah. rising out of a scallop. But God knows how she moved or sat or did anything in that dress. Yeah, so that's got us onto those times when you've suffered through pain just for the fashion.

Alex, what happened? Hey, guys. My story's a bit like Caitlin. And for my senior ball, some of my friends and I decided to make a competition to see who could keep their shoes on for the longest. And I won, but I had black toenails for three months afterwards. What?

You killed your toenails? Yeah, absolutely. I was like wearing nail polish on them because I didn't want anyone to see how gross they were. Because of the forced down pressure on the heels. Yeah. That's a school ball classic though, taking your shoes off once you're in and you've had your photos taken. Yeah, I know. But we were like, no, we're going to do it the whole time we've got to come in. Oh my yeah. That's a school ball classic, though, taking your shoes off once you're in and you've had your photos taken.

Yeah, I know, but we were like, no, we're going to do it the whole time. We've got to commit. Oh, my God. That happened to me after the first Friday James concert. I wore heels and had black toenails. But you suffered in the name of fashion. Yeah.

Alex, thanks for your call. Patrick, when did you suffer in the name of fashion? So I bought a really expensive Armani belt and I wanted to show it off. Okay. So I wore it out, went to the bathroom and then for some reason

in the new leather the belt got stuck. I really needed to go to the toilet. I couldn't go. Ended up peeing my pants a little bit. Had to call my brother

to the toilet to open the belt for me so I could finish the job. Patrick, still to this day doesn't know I peed myself a little bit. I don't know how you get stuck in a belt. The hook got stuck in the hole. It just didn't come out.

And from your angle, you couldn't leverage it? No. Man, how tight did you have that belt? You're panicking. And did anyone walk in on your brother trying to take your pants off? No. Because that would have looked a bit dodgy. How expensive were we talking?

Was it an actual Armani belt or was it? No, it was an actual Armani leather belt. Wow. Okay, because it sounds like it was an imitation one that kind of had a defect. No, no. It was very much real. Have you worn it since? Yeah, I actually wore it

quite a bit after that. It never got stuck. Well, once you've warmed it up, you'd be crazy not to. Hey, thanks for your call, Patrick. Some other text messages in on suffering for the fashion. This is more of a dress up,

but we had a steampunk party. Someone said, you should wear a corset. I was like, okay. Horrible idea. You just can't move in them. They're insanely tight. You can't even breathe properly.

It restricts how your chest can move in and out. Yeah, when you sneeze. That was a sneeze that turned into a fart. Somebody else said their wedding shoes were to die for.

There was an outdoor ceremony, torrential rain, flooding two days beforehand. Oh, no. Somebody said, I wouldn't last the day. I proved them all wrong. However, they didn't know the pain and suffering afterwards. Yeah, yeah. We went away with the netball end of year trip. Wore brand new heels for 16 hours straight, including burlesque, dancing, dinner, and clubbing.

I had blisters that lasted for two weeks and nails that died, but I had to be in steel caps in the kitchen. My toes were just absolutely killing. I couldn't risk dropping anything on them. So, here goes. But your feet look great. Oh, they look great for that 16 hours. ZDM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan.

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