ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - February 27 2019

Episode Date: February 26, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome one, welcome all to the Fletch, Vaughan and Megan podcast brought to you by Spark. Get four gigs of bonus data on Spark's $49 prepaid value pack. Now, on with the podcast. It's on. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Thanks, Anya. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. So this unruly tourist who fled New Zealand on someone else's passport, apparently used an e-gate, and it didn't let him through. Because he didn't look like his passport. And the e-gate's like, not today, mate. Not today.
Starting point is 00:00:36 No. Then so he had to have his image reviewed by one of the people there at the border, and they were like, yeah, all right, go through. Oh, they're going to be in trouble. Have we seen a picture of this? No. God, I'd love to see that picture though. Like a comparison, like a side by side.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Yeah. But doesn't it happen to be... I've always wondered, is it like, because you know when you're coming into the country and you don't use an because when I travel with the kids, you can't use an e-gate because computers don't recognise children or something. And you have to go up and they get you to look into the camera and they take a photo.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I'm imagining that's like catalogued and put somewhere, right? Oh yeah, the images will be somewhere. Oh yeah, side by side. Hopefully, Official Information Act, they have to release them. So we can see like how good Let's put a request in.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Yeah. I always wanted to make a request to the Official Information Act. We tried to make a request recently about something. When are you going to do that for us, Anya?
Starting point is 00:01:34 And you never did it? That's right. I can't remember. I thought you could just like fling it at Anya as her job. Yeah, Fletch. Well, she's in the
Starting point is 00:01:43 news department. It's the news. You've got to make official information request acts, don't you? Wasn't it for something stupid? It was for something stupid. Well, why don't we make an official information request act to find out what our official information request act request was? But it was never made.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Yeah, I don't believe it was ever made. No, they were just looking to the archives of broadcasted audio, weren't they? I don't know. I don't know if that's how it works. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think that's it. That's a waste of government time with the sounds of things. All right, you lot, listen up.
Starting point is 00:02:14 It's story time. All right, story time. Three news headlines that are found online for stories. Interesting, quirky, odd stories. And you've got to pick one of the following three. Vaughan and Megan. Headline one, no nursing home life hack. Headline two, snake goes on OE.
Starting point is 00:02:37 And headline three, no luck for airline passenger. Oh, so snake goes on OE. That's a snake that's hidden in somebody's suitcase or something. Yeah, hitched a ride internationally. Yes. Went from Australia to Scotland. Wow. Good effort.
Starting point is 00:02:56 It would have been very surprising if it was a snake. I was surprised when I got to Scotland, though. Very cold. Although, in saying that, parts of it has been reported the last couple of days because we've had this cold snap. Parts of the UK at the moment, warmer than parts of New Zealand. And it's technically still winter for a couple of days. I saw my mate, he took his kids to the park and they were in T-shirts and shorts. I was like, back up.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Hold on just a moment. Yeah, it's been 18, 20 degrees in some parts. Crazy. Wow. If you picked up a snake, say, in Australia and then you flew home, would the snake, like, freeze in your suitcase? No. Would it still be alive when you opened it?
Starting point is 00:03:30 Well, no, it'd probably be insulated, wouldn't it? Because it's in your suitcase with all your clothes. But, yeah, it gets to, like... No, it'd do that thing where, like, if you have a shampoo bottle in your luggage, it just, like, squeezes, the pressure gets too much, and it pops its head off. And you get snake guts all through off. Then you've got snake guts all through and then you've got to find a laundromat and then you've probably got to do a double wash because snake
Starting point is 00:03:50 guts won't come out easy. Grim. Okay, so no nursing home life hack or no luck for airline passenger? I think no nursing home life hack. Yeah. Okay. You want that one? Yes, please. We go now to Texas where Terry Robinson,
Starting point is 00:04:06 like many others, is making sure his retirement plans are sorted out when the time comes. That's good, Terry. Good work, Tessa. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Now, obviously, you know, so when you retire, you live in your house or you can go into, like, a home. Yeah. Just wherever you feel more comfortable
Starting point is 00:04:24 being racist, I think. For sure. And then, of course, there's the nursing care if you get really kind of sick, isn't there? Well, anyway, his Facebook post has gone viral. It's had 77,000 shares. He's explained that him and his wife, for their retirement,
Starting point is 00:04:42 will be checking in to the Holiday Inn. Because according to his research, the average cost for a nursing home care is $188 a day. What? So that's where he lives. He's worked it out, $188 a day. If he uses his senior discount, he can book at the Holiday Inn chain for $59.23 a day. Wow. Because a lot of hotels in that will offer senior discounts like the gold card discounts here in New Zealand. Yeah. So he said that would leave him with an extra $128.77 a day which he said can be spent on
Starting point is 00:05:20 food, room service, laundry, gratuities and movies and entertainment. So he's pointed out as well that these Holiday Inn locations are all over the country. So if you get bored, you can go to another one. Just move. Oh my gosh. To another Holiday Inn in another city. It's probably not great for the Holiday Inn though because they're going to just be chocker now with old people. But they'll be chocker but they'll be guaranteed full rooms every night.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Yeah. You even think about it here. I don't know how much rest homes cost here, but if they were close to $200, you could easily get a motel or a hotel for $100 a night.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Yeah. They're insanely expensive, rest homes. He obviously doesn't need extra care though, right? No, so I think if you ever, yeah, and he's still with his wife,
Starting point is 00:06:01 so if, you know, either of them needed extra care, they'd probably move into a home, but in the meantime. Yeah. But then if he shits himself,
Starting point is 00:06:08 they change the sheets the next day anyway. Yeah, you don't have to do washing. No. Or cleaning. It's all done. When you get free soap and shampoos every day. And tea. Yeah, some people like to keep those, don't they?
Starting point is 00:06:19 And Wi-Fi. Yeah. Oh, no, it sounds like even probably a cheaper idea than renting in some of the big cities in New Zealand, doesn't it? Yeah. What a great idea. It's a great hack.
Starting point is 00:06:30 So, Wednesday, when's this starting? Well, by the sounds of it, soon. He's a good man. I look forward to following his progress. I hope he, I don't know, does a computer course, or maybe he sounds like he was already using computers. Like, he sounds like... It'd be an interesting blog to follow. Yeah. It has, at the moment, does a computer course. Or maybe he sounds like he was already using computers. Like he sounds like... Be an interesting blog to follow. Yeah, it has at the moment 110,000 shares.
Starting point is 00:06:50 It says he's still working on his Facebook page. So yeah, I'm sure it's imminent. And I can't wait until he starts getting free stuff. He's going to be an influencer. An old person influencer. Yeah. That's even better. Right, so instead of watches and sunglasses, it'll be adult diapers.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Yeah, I mean, it could be. And a reptile distinction. I agree. Yes. Yes, say Alice. All right. I don't know if this is exactly what you want to be hearing if you are awake at this time of the day. And it's probably not news to parents that you lose sleep having children.
Starting point is 00:07:26 But I've got exactly how much sleep it takes off your life. And the average per night for a mother and a father. Are you prepared for this stat, Vaughn? Oh, well, I've lived it. I know that you lose a fair bit. But it's easier now, eh? Because they're getting older. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Or are they still annoying? Well, they just wake up. You don't get weekend sleep're getting older. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Or are they still annoying? Well, they just wake up. You don't get weekend sleep in still. But no, no, no. My kids have genuinely been pretty good sleepers. But then I ran a hard and fast sleep prep camp. Like, I wasn't mucking around, mate. It was military precision with our sleeping schedule.
Starting point is 00:08:03 In bed at seven, lights out. But then you hear those people, oh, my child won't sleep. It breathed funny at 11 and I ran in there screaming and now it won't go back to sleep. It'll be fine. Yeah, just leave them. They're fine. Do you think if Fletch and I ever have children, not together, yuck,
Starting point is 00:08:21 but like if we had children like separately from each other with other people, would this job prepare us for the sleepless nights? I did it the other way around. I think children prepared me for this. Okay. For breakfast hours on radio, but I don't know how it would work the other way.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Right. Because we're already sleep deprived. You'd be adding more sleep. Yeah. Sleep deprivation? No, deprivation. Sleep deprivation? No, deprivation. Deprivation, yeah. So new parents face six years of sleepless nights. Horrible. If you're feeling cranky and you're trying to tell everyone about it,
Starting point is 00:08:59 there's the stat, six years of sleepless nights. And it varies between mothers and fathers. On average, how much do they lose per night? So a father misses out on 14 minutes of sleep and a mother... Is this a night? A night. Okay, right. And a mother loses out on
Starting point is 00:09:17 average of 22 minutes per night. So it adds up to, are you saying over the course of your lifetime, it adds up to six years? Yeah. Right. And it doesn't to, are you saying over the course of your lifetime it adds up to six years? Yeah. Right. And it doesn't actually, it doesn't help when they get older too. I was going to say when Andy and August start going
Starting point is 00:09:34 out to high school drinking parties Yeah, that's when I will be not sleeping well. You'll lose some sleepless nights then too. I think that, but at the same time the microchips I had implanted in their neck when they were kids, when they were babies,
Starting point is 00:09:47 that's pretty good. That'll help me sleep a little bit. I'll know if they're lying. I'll know exactly where to find them when I need to tranquilise them because I've got one of those as well. You've seen this episode
Starting point is 00:09:58 of Black Mirror. It doesn't end well for either of those two women, does it? No. I learned from the episode of Black Mirror, so I'll know the mistakes not to make.
Starting point is 00:10:06 You're going to do it better. FVM, the podcast. If you've ever registered a company in New Zealand, which I have, and Fletch and I had, there was a bit of a story there behind why we had to register our names. But anyway, as a company, copyright, it's a story for another time, kids.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Give Uncle Vaughn a couple of points and he'll probably get loose-lipped on that one. But a New Zealand woman has come up against a little bit of a barrier against the company's office. This has been on Fairgo and this has even made headlines in the UK on the Daily Mail.
Starting point is 00:10:42 A New Zealand sunglasses company hoping to register the name Happy to Sit on Your Face Sunglasses. What? Have been told that they're probably not allowed to use that name as an official brand name. Okay, as a slogan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Like a branding statement, but not allowed to be like the name of the sunglasses. Like Ray-Ban Happy to sit on your face Happy to sit on your face Oh I love your sunnies, what are they called? Happy to sit on your face, I beg your pardon My wife's hair, don't talk like that
Starting point is 00:11:17 So just like anything You can't have a dirty personalised plate You can't have a dirty business name Which is fair enough I guess There's certain standards and stuff to adhere to apparently, but the owner of the company said that it's not meant to be dirty, that's only offensive in specific circumstances, but they're meant to be like, a pair of sunglasses should be comfortable to wear and therefore happy to sit on your face. But then that's not, the sunglasses wouldn't be happy to sit on your face.
Starting point is 00:11:48 You would say, I'd be happy to have them sit on my face. Well, you can't ask the sunglasses, can you? To sit on your face? Well, you can't ask them if they're happy. They might not like it. It's a consent thing now. Now we've got into very grey territory, haven't we? Has she got an idea for another name?
Starting point is 00:12:07 Can she turn that into an acronym? Happy to sit on your... Nah, it doesn't. Nah, it's... It's harder to get a good acronym than you'd think. You've kind of got to spell out a word. Hitsweef.
Starting point is 00:12:22 But you want to spell out a word that's also not like, just like a boring word and you want it to be obvious that it's an acronym. Yeah. But yeah, not happening at this stage. Right. The happy to sit on your face brand as it is offensive. From the ZM Think Tank, this is the Top Six. Yes, hello there.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Today's Top Six dealing with the fact that earlier this week, a man took a photo of the GUI in the back of the plane seat in front of him. The GUI is the graphic user interface? Yeah. Yeah, the screen in the seat. Yeah, yeah, it's the flash name for it. We learned the term once, so now we want to seem better than you by using it. Now, apparently, a man saw a little pinhole, and he thought, what is that for?
Starting point is 00:13:11 And took a photo, and he said, does anybody, and he put it online, and he said, does anyone think this is a camera? Anyway, it picked up enough traction that official comment was issued by Singapore, not the country, the airline, also United Airlines and American Airlines, saying that, yes, the new in-flight entertainment screens have lenses embedded in them, but as yet we have not activated them, and we don't believe we will, but this is a possibility for the future of air travel. Right, kind of looks like a little iPad camera, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:13:43 Or just a camera in your phone. Just a little dot. Teeny tiny camera. So it could be for when they sort out better Wi-Fi on planes. It could be for communication to people outside of the plane or inter-seat communication. You can already chat between seats, can't you? Yeah, and you can call them
Starting point is 00:13:59 on the little telephone. But they said they're not hooked up. You shouldn't be worried. We're not filming you. Dot, dot, dot. Yet. Nobody wants to be filmed after like a long, imagine being filmed on like a 16-hour flight. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:14:15 See people with their mouth open drooling. It'd be a good case study of humanity. Could it be like a live stream channel on Netflix or something? Oh, that would be good. Just like randomly dial into plane seats. Yeah. That would be cool. You could go to a website and just pick your person.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Yeah. Creepy. Yeah. But very voyeuristic. Yeah. So the top six things cameras in plane seats will see if they are ever activated are number six, a lot of nose picking and nail chewing. A lot.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Yeah. It's bad. I chew my nails pretty much every time I'm on a plane. I'll get really stuck into a couple of them. If it's one of those overnight flights, you'll just have a nose pick because no one's looking. No, no. And then a real examine and then you're like, what am I going to do with this because I'm on a plane? And then you just put your hand down between your legs and you flick it until you can feel that it's not on there anymore.
Starting point is 00:15:04 You don't know where it goes, so you're not responsible for it. Yuck. But it's down there somewhere. Number five on the list of the top six things cameras and plane seats will see. Single guys trying to put in some serious groundwork in an effort to join the Mile High Club. I don't know if there'll be like a wide lens so you can see exactly who the work's going in on. But yeah, I'd imagine that it would happen. Do you guys actually think that that's going to happen?
Starting point is 00:15:28 Because you get talking to some guys. I don't like talking to the people next to me. Yeah. But I don't know. Just because you haven't sat next to anybody hot enough yet. Yeah. Do you know the last flight that I was on, there was a lady sitting next to me. And the air hostess, what do you call them?
Starting point is 00:15:45 Flight attendant. Came up and talked to us like we were a couple going on holiday. Cute. And she I was just like
Starting point is 00:15:51 this is hilarious but weird and she didn't like it and then moved to another seat. Oh my god. She was like look don't take this the wrong way
Starting point is 00:15:58 it's just there's a seat over there and he thinks we're a couple. I was like totally understand all good with me. And then the air steward came back and thought you guys
Starting point is 00:16:08 were having a tiff. Yeah. And he's like, oh no, this couple, this isn't a great start to the holiday. Rocky start to the holiday. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Number four on the list of the top six things, cameras and plane seats. We'll see when they're activated. When your meals are delivered, that thing where you like poke the food around the plate for a little bit? Or just, like, poke the meat to see what it is?
Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah. Definitely chicken. I always give the meat a good poke and then just, like, scrape the stuff around to see if there's anything underneath. I'm like, no. Sometimes you need to poke it to break through that seal that's been made of the gravy kind of zhuzh, whatever it is. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:16:45 You need to poke the eggs because it's just a slab of. Yeah. Yeah. And then when you get the bun and you get the plastic knife and you make sort of like a sacrifice where you stab it and start like doing the little, because it's only serrated for about two centimetres, so you've just got to use that one serrated bit back, pull it open and then you butter it and it all just starts falling to bits
Starting point is 00:17:04 because the butter's hard. Oh, God, awful. Real first-wave problem. Yeah, yeah, real first-wave problems. I'm going somewhere on a plane, and I'm being fed, and it's not easy. Number three on the list of the top six things cameras and plane seats will see when they're activated are baby boomers doing exercises and stretches to avoid deep vein thrombosis?
Starting point is 00:17:26 True. We could all learn from the boomers. They're not afraid to drop a little bit of a calf stretch or a couple of lunges on the way to the bathroom on a plane and we could all learn from that mistake. As someone who's had DVT fletch, you would agree. Well, yeah, I do agree, but I'm still useless at it.
Starting point is 00:17:41 And it's embarrassing. Yeah. I get a bit older before I care about, you know. I saw a guy in the airport the other day doing full-blown quad stretches on the back of their kegels. You can do those with no one noticing. Yeah, I was going to say, the good thing about kegels, you can just do them on the down low. I'm doing it too. Fletch, do it as well. Do you know how to do your kegels?
Starting point is 00:18:04 Don't make that face. What are you making that face for? Do you know how to do your keg? Don't make that face. What are you making that face for? Do you know how to do your pecs? No, I don't know. No, you've got to imagine. So a guy, the way a guy does kegels is you're imagining that you're going wheeze and you've got to stop midstream. And then you hold that.
Starting point is 00:18:17 You hold that for as long as you can. So it's like clenching your boot hole. No, you don't. No, not clenching the butthole. Why do you go wheeze out your butthole? No, no. The butthole's not involved. I just clenched everything.
Starting point is 00:18:28 When you said clench, I was just... No, you've got to imagine specifically holding wheeze. Right, okay. Yeah, like you've started and then you're like, oh, I've got to stop, and then hold it. Three, two, one. Great work. Great work, class. We've done well. I might do online.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I might stream some online classes doing Kegels. No, we should just do Show Kegels every morning. Show Kegels. Yes, let's. Yes, yes. Pencil it in for quarter to six every morning. Show Kegels. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Show Kegels. It's good for us. I mean, that's beneficial for every single member of society. Number two on the list of the top six things cameras and plane seats will see when they're activated. People crying watching movies they wouldn't usually cry at. Well, yeah, because this altitude makes me cry more. I've said this before.
Starting point is 00:19:10 The movies and planes get me all the time. Cars 3 was such an emotional. I'm not even messing around. I described this to somebody recently, and I described the part that made me cry, and they started welling up. Yeah, said, I think you've probably done a more emotional description than Pixar managed. And I said, if I have I need a job at Pixar. Yeah. Because those guys destroy me every single time. Number one on the list of the top six things, cameras
Starting point is 00:19:39 and plane seats, we'll see when they're activated. That fall asleep jolt thing that always happens on planes. You're like, Jesus, where am I? I'm on a plane. Okay, relax. You just move around in your chair for a bit to make it seem like
Starting point is 00:19:53 you didn't jolt. You're like, yeah, I'm shuffling. And then you're like, that's not going to happen again. And it happens almost straight away. That is today's top six.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Well, a sad day yesterday in South Auckland. What is being described as a pastry pile-up? Oh, you have got to be staking kidding me about this. 4,000 pies were lost when they fell out of
Starting point is 00:20:18 a truck or they toppled out. Mints and Jesus Christ. That is hard. Are you out of pie puns now? At the moment, but I'm definitely working on some more in the back part of my brain. Right, well, a truck carrying hundreds of trays of Big Ben pies lost its load when it rounded the corner from Davies Ave onto Manukau Station Road. Station Road in Manukau.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Right. So police were called in. There were volunteers, staff in high vis. Did you say that the truck potato toppled over? Yes. Good. You've got to be out now. I'm not giving you any more.
Starting point is 00:20:56 There's no chance. I'm just sitting here thinking about it. So it took them an hour to fix the area with police volunteers to clean them up. Was it just savoury pies or were there some sweet pies in the mix? By the looks of it, all kinds. Okay. They posted on their Instagram, and I'll give them this on their Facebook page. It's a sad day for us here at Big Ben Pies.
Starting point is 00:21:24 We've lost 4,000 of our most delicious pies. Please go out and buy a Big Ben Pie for lunch in remembrance of the 4,000 we've lost. R.I. Pie. That's pretty good. Which is pretty good. And sorry for the mints up. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Our warmest apologies for that. As a stretch. But then actually they came under fire in the end because passers-by were like, hey, can I have a pie? Yeah. Because they're going to be chucked out.
Starting point is 00:21:53 And then they came under fire online saying, well, at least give them to homeless people because they looked intact. A lot of them were still in their wrappers. They were fine. For insurance, don't they have to take back the damaged goods? I think they have to have them accounted for. They were fine. But for insurance, don't they have to take back the damaged goods? I think they have to have them accounted for. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Yeah. I don't think you can just be like, this is how many. It was a thousand. No, but we don't have them anymore because we gave them away. You know what I mean? They have to have them be accounted for. So they were big Ben pies. Big Ben, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Right. Did anybody sort of got an eye on Mrs. Mack at the time? Was she driving the truck? Oh, you think she could have run them off the road? Yeah, definitely think it might be some sabotage. It's backfired from Mrs. Mac's because they've got all this free publicity, haven't they? Yeah. They have, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:35 And now I want a pie. Never too early for a pie. Yeah. You're still trying to think of more pie. I'm really struggling. Because I'm trying to think of how to work a chicken... Why did the chicken pie cross the road would have been a bit earlier in the piece. I feel like we're too far down the road for that one now.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yeah, I just give up. It's all right to give up. You don't have to have, you know, 10. I just felt like one more was all that was required. We won't think you're a flaky puff pastry. I was going to go flake but then I didn't think you'd get it.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Okay, never mind. I would have if you just said no need to be flaky about it. We would have probably guessed it. Well, police reminded people Now we're just all having a think about pie jokes. Because the county's Manukau police made one.
Starting point is 00:23:28 They said keep their pies on the road. Hopefully they can keep their pies on the road. That's pretty good. That's good. So a headmaster at a school in the UK has put a ban on something and I remember we weren't allowed to wear
Starting point is 00:23:44 our skirts rolled. We allowed to wear our skirts rolled. We used to roll our skirts because I went to Nayland College and then we got the nickname Nayhos, which I still refute. It doesn't even work. That's lazy nicknaming. It is, isn't it? Nayland, like, no, no. Like, Naylu schools would have been better.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Or they'll never say nay at Naylan. Like, there's a couple off the top of my head. That's just absolute brainstorming there. But it was fine for Nelson girls because their skirts went down to, like, their ankles. Like, it had, like, a long length. Ours was just, like, on the knee. Like, not short, not long. It was their fault from the start.
Starting point is 00:24:21 It was their, so we made them short. And then, wasn't it, was it your old school, Anya, just a few weeks ago that they had the low cut issue? I believe. Yeah, yeah. Pretty sure it was. And the students were riled up about that. That's a wildly different issue. Rolling your skirt up one notch just so it's not at an uncomfortable height versus too much cleavage on school grounds is really different.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And we used to push the boundaries on how high our heels could be. Like school shoes, but they were the heel on the back. Right. So a headmaster in the UK has had an issue, and I would say probably mostly girls, but I don't want to say it's totally a girl thing.
Starting point is 00:25:02 He said, quote, there's a lot of girls in the school who are fairly orange. We want them to tone it down a bit. So they have put a ban. It might be a soft ban on fake tan. Wow. So they need to educate the girls that you need to use a green base tan to cut down on the orange. Yeah, so it's less orange.
Starting point is 00:25:28 When it's orange, what's the base of an orange one? You need a hard green base tan. But is it cheaper? Is the orange tan cheaper? No, I don't think so. Okay. This is part of social studies. It should be in there and be like, excuse me, okay,
Starting point is 00:25:44 always use a green base tan. Always apply with a mitt. Exfoliate. Would you like to go around and do some lectures maybe? I can do it. It seems more like an arts, an art class more than a social studies. Well, it's part of your social life. Almost like body effects, like under the arts and drama umbrella.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And I've applied fake tan more in my life than I've used Pythagoras. I'm just saying. You need to be educated on taxes and applying tan. Very true. But when they're educating students at school, I think they're aiming for them to be scientists or send a man
Starting point is 00:26:19 or woman to Mars, not really just to look good on a Saturday night if they haven't seen a lot of sun lately. Hey, scientists can wear fake tan too. Would you get a tan on Mars? You wouldn't, eh? Um. So you'd need to take it. If you weren't wearing
Starting point is 00:26:35 a suit, you would, but then you'd also just be obliterated, so probably not too much to worry about. Right. So I would like to know, off the back of what this school has banned, what did your school kill in the way of fashion? So whether banned maybe or just... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Right, okay. We weren't allowed necklaces, especially chokers. Like chokers were cool when I was at school. Do you know what a choker is? Like a tight necklace. A tight necklace. You were just looking at me blankly. Like a tight necklace, but a
Starting point is 00:27:08 thicker one, eh? Yeah. See, I know what a choker is. Everybody was trying to look like they were off Charmed, were they? Yes. Everyone was trying to look like Alyssa Milano off Charmed. So I just found a story, the Rangitoto College story from early, I think it was like last month.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Must have been just before school was going back. The last year you can ditch your uniform. It's mufti. Is that correct, Dania? This is the school you went to. Yeah. So the issue was with ripped jeans, low cut tops and yoga pants. What? Yoga pants? Yeah. What's wrong with ripped jeans?
Starting point is 00:27:40 Why don't they, aren't they? Messy looking. Messy. But it's the fash. They don't get the fashion, do they? Oh, they're killing fash. Because yoga pants also have come out of the yoga studio. They're a fashion item. Yeah. Back in the day, though, you couldn't
Starting point is 00:27:55 wear short skirts. They were pretty tight rolls around, like with Mufti. They had to be down lower than your hands against your thighs. But did they, like, get a roller out? What if there was a girl with really long arms? Yeah, what about the orangutan exchange student? They would have... Hard to look good when your knuckles are dragging.
Starting point is 00:28:14 You know, you get sent to the deans. Oh, straight to the deans office. All right, so let's take your calls. 0800DARLS.M9696. What did a school ruin for fashion? Yeah. Maybe there was a ban on a certain item. Give us a call, 9696 to text as well.
Starting point is 00:28:30 A school in the UK has banned fake tan because basically a lot of the girls at the school are turning up pretty orange. So we would like to know what your school has put a hard ban on in the name of fashion. What have they ruined? Text messages in. I went to a lovely and safe school, someone says, in South Auckland,
Starting point is 00:28:51 but the rule on Mufti days, no gang colours or gang patches. I guess that would be a problem, wouldn't it? Yeah. Fashion? For some people. What's gang colours? Blue, red, yellow. That's upsetting because I love blue. I don't like purple. Blue's that colour? Blue, red, yellow. That's upsetting because I love blue.
Starting point is 00:29:06 I don't like purple. Blue's your colour. They should have stayed away from purple. It's Cadbury colours. I'm not, I don't know what gang's purple,
Starting point is 00:29:14 but that's Cadbury. They've taken that. What about black? Because they, that's just kind of a universally accepted team up with whatever. Yeah, it's your base colour.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Yeah, it's your base colour. That's good. It's your accessory colour. Team up with whatever. Yeah, it's your base color. It's your base color. That's good. It's your accessory color. It goes with everything. Slimming, also threatening. Yeah, it's just good. It's just a good color for gangs. Some other text messages in.
Starting point is 00:29:34 We weren't allowed to wear any makeup. They didn't want us to wear a single thing. If they could prove that you were wearing wearing makeup then you'd be in trouble for example they would walk up to you if they suspected it and they would rub a makeup wipe down your face and then look at it and if there was anything on it you'd get detention um also you left a streak i guess then they'd encourage you to do the whole face yeah the whole face um somebody said this is a workplace, not a school, but we were not allowed to wear ripped jeans on Casual Friday.
Starting point is 00:30:09 And I said, there is nothing more casual than ripped jeans, and I do believe this is a casual Friday. There was many an outrage amongst the 30- and 40-year-olds at work that wanted to wear a slightly ripped jean. Is it just boomers that have an issue with ripped jeans? Because you know that line that parents love to say, did you buy them like that?
Starting point is 00:30:28 Did you pay full price? Did you pay full price? Did you get a discount for the hollies? Those are absolutely buggered. Somebody said, our school banned
Starting point is 00:30:37 Chinese slippers when they were at the height of fashion in 2004. Megan, I'm not familiar with a Chinese slipper. Are they like kung fu shoes? Are they just talking about slip-ons?
Starting point is 00:30:50 So I've just googled Chinese slipper and I apologise. I hope in no way this is a racial term. I hope that this came about due to its origins being in China. It looks like those ones that had a meshy front on them. A meshy front and then sometimes they had little flowers or decorations on top.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Right. Decorative flowers. Why would they have been banned? An Osh, would that have been a slip-in? Renee, what was banned at your school? This was a fashionable type of music, I believe. Yeah, yeah, so it's not actual fashion that you wear. But our primary school assembly, we used to sing all sorts of songs.
Starting point is 00:31:25 And some of them new, some of them really, really old. But we started singing Avril Lavigne's Complicated when it first came out. And so, but everyone thought it was hilarious to sing Constipated instead.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Oh, no. Okay. That song was banned from us. Yeah. Well, they should have been encouraging that kind of creativity. Because, you know, Weird Al Yankovic has made a career out of changing song. Parodies, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:51 You made a parody. Yeah, brilliant. All right. Thanks for your call, Renee. Some other text messages. In Nene College. Nine Eye College. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:04 In a Nine Eye College. Yes. In a Nine-Eye College, yes. Pom-pom socks and black karate shoes have been banned. Pom-pom socks? Yeah, pom-pom socks. That is a great way to keep the sock up in your shoe. Yeah, because it hooks over the back of the karate shoe, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Somebody said, the irony here will astound you. I went to a Catholic school and it became fashionable to wear your christening bracelets. I was christened, but I don't believe I received a bracelet. So that's an IOU, a piece of jewelry, mum and dad, if you're listening. And so we all started wearing them, but then it became a big thing about who had the nicer christening bracelets. So our school that we had to be christened to to go to banned christening bracelets.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Because there was a hierarchy. Because there was a fashion hierarchy engaging. Where did you get christening bracelets from? Like Michael Hill or Pascoe's or something? Yeah, I don't know. I'd be taking mine off today given the news about the Catholic Church that's come out overnight, but you know.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Freya, what was banned at your school? Scarves. Scarves? The school scarf. But what about winter? I know. We were in the white car. It's cold.
Starting point is 00:33:15 So why did they ban scarves? Our deputy principal didn't like it when girls wrapped their hands in their scarves because, you know, it was cold. Ridiculous. Ridiculous. Yeah. So, what did you do? Take them off and be cold and have cold hands? Yes. Were they like, what are you hiding in your wrapped hands?
Starting point is 00:33:35 Well, some girls, admittedly, did cut holes in the end of their scarves so they could put their hands inside to be warmer. To make like those cool mitten, scarf mitten things. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's ingenuity. And that was untidy. Oh, my God. Is there scarf?
Starting point is 00:33:52 Do whatever you want. There's a very interesting study. This happened at the end of last year. Results have been released that Netflix and YouTube legally streaming television, so other services that do it in New Zealand, like Lightbox and Neon, are killing piracy. Apparently, this study was with a large group of New Zealand adults, and they were asked if they'd ever pirated in their life.
Starting point is 00:34:22 This is downloading TV shows movies anything i guess illegally streaming sites yeah yep um so 50 of them had done it at some point in their life but now it was down to 10 compared to uh the 50 of people that had done it at some stage only 10 were doing it and only three percent of people said it was their main source of content. You just don't need to now, do you? No. Because it's all, like, someone I know who's very much like me doesn't do it anymore, really. Hardly ever.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Yeah, yeah. I've never done it. Partially because I didn't know how and couldn't be bothered. But also now, it's like. And you had people that could give it to you for. Who? What? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:04 But like. So you were pirating, but you were just Who? What? I don't know. But like... So you were pirating, but you were just pirating from the piraters. Yeah. Yeah, right. Like I was like, how am I going to watch that Surviving R. Kelly documentary? Yeah. I was like, oh, where do I get that from? And then it's like, oh, it's on TVNZ On Demand.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Like you usually find it on like Neon or TVNZ On Demand. And to be fair, they're getting better. TV companies and media companies are getting better at getting it to us. Otherwise, people will go out and find it. Yeah, you'll usually find it on one of them. Think about Game of Thrones in the early seasons. You might have to wait six months. Now it's literally the day it comes out, the time it comes out, it's here.
Starting point is 00:35:39 It's on Neon, yeah. It's here, yeah, or Soho, whatever channel you get it on. Yeah. Yeah, it's like they looked at what was happening and were like, how can we solve this? And then eight years later, they did. It was a real quick move on their behalf, these traditional outlets for media consumption.
Starting point is 00:36:01 They really moved with the times eight years after everybody else did. It was wonderful. But the problem, like, there's still shows that aren't broadcast in New Zealand that I would love to watch that I could get from downloading, but A, I'm now on rural broadband. Handbrake, hello. And the other is every time I finish a Netflix show, I'm like, oh, a new one.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And I very rarely leave Netflix. Well, I think there's a stat like when it comes to internet traffic, isn't it like 80% is streaming video? Yeah. Like Netflix and all of that. It's crazy. In peak time internet traffic, 80% is legal streaming sites. So that's the Netflix, YouTube and all the ones I mentioned before.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Wow. So, yeah, it's changing game. And heck, as I said just before, it only took eight years, which is great. Which is great. We got there. Ten years. Okay. So, I said I had a pitch, kind of a proposition for you guys.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Yep. Which, are you listening? Yeah. Okay. This is how I would run a dragon's den. Right. Can we do this like dragon's den? Sure.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Okay. Because it's called Shark Tank in America, but do we get the shark tank here? I don't know. It's been so long since I've watched actual TV. No, I don't know. If it's not on Netflix, I don't know. So, yeah. Versions of dragon den.
Starting point is 00:37:21 I know there's a couple of other sort of like predatory animal versions as well. Okay, Tiger's Lair. Tiger's Lair. That's the rip-off of Dragon's Den and Shark Tank. So I don't need any money. Okay. Straight off the bat. Well, I'm in already.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Okay, I'm working on my pitch. Okay. So how would you feel about a long weekend? I'm in. Already in. I don't even want a percentage of your weekend? I'm in. Already in. I don't even want a percentage of your business. I'm in. And Vaughan, you're always going on about doing less work,
Starting point is 00:37:52 so I can guarantee you this is less work. Yeah. I feel like there's a catch here. Do we have to do anything? So the two of you, would you consider yourselves to be feminists? Oh, yeah. Sure. Definitely. Because you don't need you consider yourselves to be feminists? Oh, yeah. Sure. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Because you don't need to be female to be feminist. You just need to believe that there needs to be gender equality. And it should be in no way a threat to your manhood to say you're a feminist or support people with feminist ideals. I feel like that is the scripted answer that you say to everyone. But I like it. It wasn't scripted, but it just, it flowed out of me like that. That's how I feel about that. I second Vaughan
Starting point is 00:38:27 because I can't articulate that well. Yeah. Well, as staunch feminists, it might have slipped both of your minds that next Friday, March 8th, is International Women's Day.
Starting point is 00:38:38 You can be forgiven for not remembering that. Now, Vaughan, I know that you are a massive Marvel fan. Correct? You're ticking all my boxes. Yeah, I know that you are a massive Marvel fan. Correct? You're ticking all my boxes. Yeah, I know. I'm trying to tick all the boxes so when I launch this, you're like all for it.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Okay. So this proposition, it might be a lot to ask of you though, Vaughn, because in celebration of the March 7 release of Marvel Studios' Captain Marvel, which is the story of the strongest and most powerful Marvel Studios' Captain Marvel, which is the story of the strongest and most powerful superhero who also happens to be a female.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Brie Larson, right? Yep. And International Women's Day. I would like to propose that next Friday you guys take the day off, take a load off, and I bring my girls on board and we have an all-women's breakfast show. Oh, man. Because you get the day off.
Starting point is 00:39:29 I know. But where's the bad part? There's no bad part about this. Well, you don't have any control about what goes on here. It's going to be all... I don't give a shit what happens when we are on here. Well, that's good. I'm certainly not going to be worried about what happens
Starting point is 00:39:44 when I'm not at work. It's above my pay grade, baby. Okay, well, it doesn't really matter what you think anyway because it's already locked in. Brie and Belle are going to be joining me to do an International Women's Day show, Breakfast Next Friday. And we're going to be joined by Anya Georgia Alley. There's a whole lot of talented women here at ZM
Starting point is 00:40:05 and the whole breakfast show is going to be run by women from the office. It's great. Okay, good. Okay, good. Why were you worried about like proposing this to us? Like, that's great. And we get a long weekend. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:21 I'm in no way. Yeah, that sounds fine. Okay, great. I really expected no way, yeah, that sounds fine. Okay. Right. I really expected a little bit more. But there's no catch. Yeah, I just thought there was going to be a catch or something. But that's great.
Starting point is 00:40:33 You don't have to do anything on it. In fact, we don't want you to do anything on it. And we don't have to file this as a day off. Oh, you might have to take that up with Ross. I don't know. I'm pretty sure we had an agreement that this was a freebie. I'm pretty sure the word freebie got chucked in there by me, but it definitely was in there.
Starting point is 00:40:51 So in celebration of International Women's Day and the release of Marvel Studios' Captain Marvel next Friday will be an all-women's breakfast show. Exciting. Fantastic. Fantastic. That movie looks fantastic as well Yeah it does This is all looking good
Starting point is 00:41:07 I So what What is International Women's Day Like I am I have heard I didn't know for sure That it was on What day did you say
Starting point is 00:41:15 March March 8th 8th Yeah 8th Next Friday What other stuff happens Because it's the day that the
Starting point is 00:41:20 Captain Marvel comes out Is that Is that when I remember last year It was massive With the Me Too situation Is that when all the march last year it was massive with the Me Too situation. Is that when all the marches happened? I think there was a lot of marches
Starting point is 00:41:29 on International Women's Day last year. Yeah. We want it to be this year like a celebration and not a segregation. So, you know, like guys are definitely welcome to listen, to call in.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Just the show will be produced and brought to you by all females. Awesome. All right. So next Friday. Yeah. I'm going to have to change my females. Awesome. All right, so next Friday. Yeah. I'm going to have to change my flight. Russian.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Make that a long weekend. Make that a long weekend. It's good news. Russians. The Russians invented it. International Women's Day. Well, it started out on, that was the day in 1917 that Russian women gained the vote.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Oh, that's great. That's one of the reasons. Oh, that's great. That's one of the reasons it falls on March 8th. But we were first, weren't we? To give women the vote. Yeah, we were. I thought you meant like we were first. Men have been voting for ages. We were first.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I was like, fuck, bitch. You're undoing all the goodwill. We want to try a new part of the show now. This happened a couple of days ago. I can't remember what we were talking about, but I mentioned flooring extra. Do you remember this? Yeah, but I can't remember what we were talking about. It was like a throwaway joke about
Starting point is 00:42:35 wasn't it a throwaway joke about slippery floors? Yeah. This is, I don't know, half the stuff we talk about after it happens, but this happened and I mentioned flooring Extra by name because it's a name that you're probably familiar with, synonymous with flooring if you've ever dealt with flooring. So that was just mentioned.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Somebody listening to the radio later that day sent me a screen cap as they had never had to look into any sort of flooring as they were flatting and had just moved out of home. So flooring had never were flatting and had just moved out of home. So flooring had never been on their agenda. But after hearing us talk about Flooring Extra and say the name Flooring Extra, they started getting targeted advertising for various options of flooring.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Now, Mark Zuckerberg has said online, he said in his Senate hearing, that we don't listen. It's not something we do. Yeah, they've said time and time again that Facebook is not listening. It's BS because this happens to so many people. I don't know. Is it Google listening? Is it Facebook?
Starting point is 00:43:37 Someone's listening. Is it the phones? Is it Apple? Is it Samsung? Are they listening and then they pass it on to something and then that leads to Facebook advertising? Because it's not just Facebook advertising. People have messaged me when we've talked about this briefly before
Starting point is 00:43:55 that they've had targeted advertising on Snapchat and Instagram as well. And like news stories, when you scroll through, sometimes you'll get like a little pop-up in your news story. I'm like, where did that come from? How did they know? It happens so much, but yet at the same time, like so many people work in these industries that surely someone would say or blow the whistle on it,
Starting point is 00:44:17 you know, or actually own up to it. But no one has, have they? No. You know what I mean? No. Yeah, it's just really weird. Not yet. I wonder if it's a relatively new industry. I wonder if in five years
Starting point is 00:44:28 we're going to be hearing more about the people who were involved in this. Yeah. When they have a fallout with a company that was paying them millions of dollars for however they're doing this, but then it stops being millions of dollars. It's definitely happening. And it happens to too many people for it to be a coincidence.
Starting point is 00:44:44 It's illegal to listen to people that don't know you're listening. Well, yeah. Yes. Wildly illegal to spy on people. Still, yeah. Still illegal to spy. Especially to make money off them. Make money off their conversations. I thought
Starting point is 00:44:59 we could try a new segment on the show where we talk about something that is a bit weird and not our usual sort of area of topics covered. Okay. And then anybody listening can let us know if they get any targeted advertising for the product that we talk about. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Have you made an intro for this? What do you want to call this segment? Not yet. Well, I was just looking for a quote from that movie, you know, A Quiet Place, the movie with Emily Blunt and John Krasinski, but then I realised that they didn't actually talk. There was no dialogue. There was not a lot of dialogue. There was a lot of sign language, because
Starting point is 00:45:38 I thought there was something in there saying, are they listening? But that's probably another movie. Okay, yeah, right. They're listening. So I want everybody listening to the show now to unlock their phones because I don't know if this needs to be an unlocked situation. And also I don't know if apps need to be running in the background. Do you know what I mean? I might open Facebook.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Maybe open Facebook and then shut Facebook. Maybe some people listening can open a browser as well. I'll open a browser. What shall I open? I won't open Chrome. I don't know. Instagram? I'll open my fitness pal because they've been selling my information to targeted advertising as well.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Oh, heck, who else is listening? Spotify, are you listening, mate? I might open you just in case as well. If you open too many, we can't pinpoint who is listening. Oh, yeah, what else? Who else is listening? Spotify, are you listening, mate? I might open you just in case as well. But if you open too many, we can't pinpoint who is listening. Oh, yeah, this is true. We can narrow it down. So you want everybody listening now to have their phone open, unlocked, ready. Okay, so what are we going to talk about?
Starting point is 00:46:36 Well, somebody's just messaged in saying this works between apps, but I think that's a well-known thing. If you use a shopping app, it will talk to Facebook. But this is more when you're not having interaction with any apps on your phone. And today, the topic we're going to be covering, and let us know if you get targeted advertising, for roof guttering. Okay. When the rain runs down your roof, it is caught in the gutter. The gutter transports it to downspout, and downspout will take it to either the wastewater system
Starting point is 00:47:05 or if you're on tank water, into the tanks. Does everyone have a gutter? Because I don't think I've noticed a gutter at my house. You've definitely got a gutter. Okay. Because otherwise, the rain. Unless you're living in a ramshackle shack that's not at all consented by council and was built like 180 years ago.
Starting point is 00:47:21 No, that just means it's super chic and I can't like, it's nicely covered up or something. Should we get everybody to repeat after us some key words maybe? ago. No, that just means it's super chic and I can't like, it's nicely covered up or something. Should we get everybody to repeat after us some key words maybe? Yeah. Yeah, okay. So we'll say and then everybody repeat. Out loud. Everybody repeat out loud.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Okay, I'll go first. Rusty guttering. Rusty guttering. Rusty guttering. I'm saying it real into my phone Okay Blocked downspout Sexy Blocked downspout
Starting point is 00:47:52 Or blocked drain Or blocked guttering No, no, don't go too far into drainage Oh no, now we're going to get drain advertising Stay hard on guttering Leaves Leaves in my guttering Ready?
Starting point is 00:48:05 Leaves in my guttering. Ready? Leaves in my guttering. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's that thing you put in your guttering to stop the leaves? Like a guttering gun. On a serious note, I've got to get some of that. Well, you might get some advertising after this. On a serious note, I've got to get
Starting point is 00:48:21 me some of that. Was it gutter witch or, yeah, gutter witch. Is that what it's called? Yeah, gutter, right. Okay. Yeah. What else ends up in your gutter? Have we seen, what about a rusty gutter?
Starting point is 00:48:32 Oh, yeah. We said rusty guttering. That was the first one, wasn't it? Did we say that? Okay. Bird nest and guttering. Bird nest and guttering. If only there was someone to fix my guttering.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Yeah. Leaky home, leaky home internal guttering. Because that was a big problem. Leaky home my guttering. Yeah. Leaky home, leaky home, internal guttering. Cause that was a big problem. The internal guttering. Internal guttering. Okay. I think we've said enough.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I think we've done enough. I think we've done enough. Okay. So, so now from the segment, if you get targeted advertising in the next day or so, let us know. And maybe this could be a regular segment or maybe it's just,
Starting point is 00:49:04 we're just into this conspiracy and we've got to let it go. Yeah. Because it's right, but I just don't, I don't know. We get too many messages about this for it to not be a thing. Yeah. And it's fair to say I've never, ever been in the market for a guttering.
Starting point is 00:49:20 I didn't know I had one. So if I get targeted advertising. Somebody messaged in saying this happened to them yesterday. They'd never ever talked about snowboarding in Canada, but at lunchtime, someone was talking about it and they said, that's really interesting. That afternoon,
Starting point is 00:49:35 on Instagram, they got targeted advertising for doing snowboarding internships in Canada. And they hadn't Googled it. Because if you Google something, you'll get ads for it for Africa, but you understand that because you've Googled it. Yeah, because you've looked at it and it's talking. When you're having that convo. Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Okay, well, I'd be really interested to see if we get any response from this. FVMZM is our Facebook page and Instagram. If you get a message or you get any target advertising, screenshot it and send it to us, and we'll do a recap about this time tomorrow. FVM. An Australian woman has been checkout shamed, and that's what we'd like to talk about
Starting point is 00:50:07 when you've been checkout shamed this morning, because she describes her experience as shocking and embarrassing. If you're going to buy things that are embarrassing or shocking at the supermarket, and I'm thinking lubes, lube connies, what else would be embarrassing? Large tubs of chocolate and ice cream after a breakup. That's why the self-serve checkouts are there. But then you don't expect to be shamed.
Starting point is 00:50:31 A girlfriend magazine when you're a 36-year-old male. Why do you need that, Vaughan? I'm 37 now, Megan. It wasn't about me. I don't actually know, because this was in Australia. I don't know if she had the option to go to a self-serve checkout because your old supermarket they didn't have self-serve checkouts
Starting point is 00:50:49 because they couldn't trust the public in your neighbourhood but then they got self-serve checkouts and they left it so late that nobody knew how to use it and there was all the teething problems involved so you just ended up going through the ordinary checkout because it was a quicker way
Starting point is 00:51:03 so this is what happened she went up to the counter ordinary checkout because it was a quicker way. Right. So this is what happened. She went up to the counter. Now, she needed to buy a pregnancy test. And she did the classic get bookends for it. So she was looking around. She grabbed some plasters. She grabbed a bag of cotton balls so she could put it around the box as a wall of privacy.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Not big enough. You need something bigger to... A bag of cotton wool. Bookend. Like that would be a bag enough to... Oh, like have you been cotton... Like those big... Cotton balls.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Oh, yeah, that might be a big bag. Yeah. So that was like her wall of privacy from customers behind her. So she was at a checkout. And when she got to the cashier, she was like, okay, well, I've made it here. I'm almost done. I'm almost at the car.
Starting point is 00:51:47 And that's when the cashier said in front of all the customers behind her, I hope you get the result you're looking for. But as far as saying something, that's kind of pretty neutral. They've seen it and they're wishing them the best with whether they hope to be pregnant or hope not to be pregnant. Like could have said something like, oh God, I hope you're not. Yeah, aren't you a bit young to make some reference to age either way. Yeah, it could have been much worse.
Starting point is 00:52:16 And I'm sure the intentions were really good. However, she said she was just like shocked and embarrassed. You don't know that she hasn't been trying for like forever. Yeah. You know, and that could be, you know, quite a hard conversation for her. And yeah, you just don't know how she feels about the situation in general,
Starting point is 00:52:31 how she got to that point. So yeah, she's a bit embarrassed. I've been there. You have to buy, although you always go to the self-service checkouts, but there's the real run the gauntlet of walking through the supermarket, having, you've got to get barriers and then you've got to cover all edges of the box. I find if you line your basket of shame with giant king size blocks of chocolate.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Yeah. That helps. But even when you go to the self-service checkout, you've still got to get it out of the basket. Without people seeing. Swipe it and then put it back in and cover it up. So there's that moment. That minute. I do love seeing what people buy at the supermarket. I know. People are nosy. You know the best thing is if you see someone
Starting point is 00:53:12 from your gym and they've got like big blocks of chocolates and chippies. Yeah. You're just like, huh. I used to go to the same supermarket as my trainer. And like, that was the worst thing, seeing her there. You'd be like, hi. Don't look in the basket.
Starting point is 00:53:29 It's treats. Although I've never been. No, but she wants you to do the treats because then that's ensuring you're going to, she's going to have employment for a little while.
Starting point is 00:53:36 She plays, be like, oh Megan. But at the same time, she's like, yes. I've never been check out shame though. No, I don't think, I mean,
Starting point is 00:53:44 sometimes there's a little bit of judgment if you're buying lots of jokes didn't you caitlin in your single days because i know and people now know that you have a boyfriend i've got a boyfriend you've got a boyfriend you do love to tell us that um but back in the single days there were some moments where you were supermarket shamed checkout shamed yeah um well not I get those sorts of... I hope my mum's not listening. From my friends. I get them to buy them for me
Starting point is 00:54:10 because I'm way too embarrassed to buy them myself. But I always get shame for... You mean pregnancy tests? Yeah. Oh, I thought you were talking about ice cream. Oh, I was going into that. Oh, sorry, I thought that's what you were asking. I won't be seen with a hokey pokey.
Starting point is 00:54:24 I have been shamed for going into the supermarket with like obviously been crying, getting like packets of ice cream and stuff like that. Biscuits, chocolate. I don't like it when you load up the counter with junk food and they're like, party tonight. And you're like. Party in my mouth.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Yeah, and they're like, are you okay? What's happening? Do you need to talk to someone? Oh my God, don't look at me in the eye. Don't judge me. I'll eat all of this tonight. Yeah, and they're like, are you okay? What's happening? Do you need to talk to someone? I'm like, oh my god, don't look at me in the eye. Don't judge me. I'll eat all of this tonight. Yeah. By myself. Yeah. So we'd love to know when you've been checkout shamed. Someone had something to say
Starting point is 00:54:55 about what you were buying. And it might not have even been something embarrassing. No. And their intentions might have even been good, like this lady. We're talking about when you've been checkout shamed. A woman in Australia took a pregnancy test through the checkout, and the checkout operator said, I hope you get the result you're looking for in front of all the other customers.
Starting point is 00:55:14 She said it was very embarrassing. Natalie, when were you checkout shamed? So, I was checkout shamed when I got into the aisle with, well not the aisle, the checkout with the middle-aged Susan. Yep. Susan. Susan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Every mum has been there where they've got a bottle of wine, formula and nappies and you just instantly like, she looks you up and down like, mm-hmm, I know what you're doing. You're drinking that wine to get through everything you have to deal with, and that's understandable. So middle-aged Susan didn't even need to say anything. The look alone was enough. Yeah, just that look of, like, disgust.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Oh, Susan. I feel like there's a lot of people that would get that just buying formula anyway. They'd be like, oh, yeah, not breastfeeding now. Oh, yeah, yeah, like young mums. On formula. How old are they? Oh, Susan. I feel like there's a lot of people that would get that just buying formula anyway. They'd be like, oh, yeah, not breastfeeding now. Oh, yeah, yeah, like young mums. On formula. How old are they? Oh, true. Too young to be on formula.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Well, okay, you know everything. I went through to breastfeed. Thank you. God, yeah, exactly. You're right. All right. Thanks for your call, Natalie. Lisa, you were actually a checkout operator.
Starting point is 00:56:20 You were on the receiving end of some shame. Yes, I was. Okay. So this was when I was in high school, so, you know, a part-time job after work. Yeah. And one day I had this lady come through. There was people behind her, and I was getting some silver beet for her. And she looked at me, and she's like, you know, silver beet's really good for acne.
Starting point is 00:56:42 And I was just like, oh, um, thanks? It was so embarrassing because obviously at that age, you're already, like, feeling self-conscious enough, and you're like, um, thanks? Lucky you're buying some then. Good on you. Yeah, I was just like, oh. I mean, I know she meant it in a nice way,
Starting point is 00:57:01 but it was still just, like, so, like, embarrassing for me. Yeah, that's just, they just have no filter, the boomers, the older people. Did you find it hard not to judge people's checkout items? Or you didn't care? I definitely had this one guy when I was on the express checkout, and he was buying some tissues, some lube, and some moisturiser. He's like, oh no!
Starting point is 00:57:35 Did he not buy any buffer items to go in the middle? No buffer item at all. He probably bought the moisturiser as the buffer items because you wouldn't need lube and moisturiser. You know, but get a couple of bags of salad or maybe, you know, something like a nice salad.
Starting point is 00:57:50 No, because then people think you're into weird, weird stuff. With salad? Yeah. Pat salads? I don't know. Get a cucumber or some carrots to drink. No! What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:58:01 Absolutely not. God, you're terrible at doing a hide shot. Lou. Hey, Lisa, thanks for your call. Some text messages when you've been checkout shamed. Somebody said, I was buying my first ever tube of lubricant from Countdown, went through the self-service, was in a little bit of a hurry, dropped it, and it broke.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Oh, no. And the lady came over. She's like, it's all right. It's all right. We'll keep this on the down low. Straight over to the PA. Hi, we've got a spill in the self-service checkout. We need a mop.
Starting point is 00:58:36 And it's not just an easy spill. It's lubricant. We'll need some hot, hot water. Hot, hot water. Oh, God. Thank you so, so much for keeping it quiet. Somebody else said, I was checkout shamed. I was buying a bottle of wine.
Starting point is 00:58:51 And the checkout operator looked at my ID and said, oh, you're a lot younger than you look. I thought you'd be at least into your mid-30s. I was 23. Somebody else also said they went up to buy a bottle of booze And they said they were unpacking out of the trolley onto the stool So they hadn't really eyeballed the checkout operator And they were putting their stuff on They said, oh, can I see ID?
Starting point is 00:59:17 And they said, yeah, sure Turned around and looked at the operator And they said, oh, no, no, don't worry Your body looked a lot younger than your face Excuse me Excuse me No, no, don't worry. Your body looked a lot younger than your face. Ow! Excuse me. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Somebody else said we're dairy farmers, so we only get into town once a fortnight. But we don't buy a lot of meat because we've got home kill and we've got a veggie garden. So generally it's two weeks of the essentials with some treats and chocolate bars in the middle and the checkout operators always judge us and comment on how many treats do you actually need. You weren't spread out over two
Starting point is 00:59:48 weeks, isn't it? Excuse me, I have my veggies at home. Yeah. Somebody else said, I thought it would be funny to make my conservative boyfriend at the time a kinky basket full of all sorts of kinky things from the supermarket, all your usual fare from that part of the aisle, but then also chucking in things like whipped cream
Starting point is 01:00:04 and when I got to the checkout, I went through self-service and I thought I was just being so clever. But it turns out some of the items I purchased had security barcodes that didn't deactivate on self-service. So when I walked out, it beeped and then they had to take me back to the information desk and unpack the entire basket where everyone could see exactly what I'd purchased. Yeah. Absolute shaming from the people who worked on the checkouts. and unpack the entire basket where everyone could see exactly what I'd purchased. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Absolute shaming from the people who worked on the checkouts. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Today's fact of the day comes to us from Canada, often regarded as one of the politer countries in this world of ours, this earth we find ourselves upon. There is a provincial holiday called Family Day in Canada. Now, this means that most stores have to be shut for the day. Most stores take the opportunity to shut for the day. It seems they take it pretty seriously, like Christmas level seriously, like supermarkets and everything
Starting point is 01:01:07 were even shut. Right. Well, it fell this year on Monday, the 18th of February, Family Day, and everything was shut. However, people weren't sure whether or not the local Food Basics, which is a supermarket in Canada, was going to be shut for the day, so multiple people went down. Now this, as I said just before, fell on a Monday, and as with most automated systems of security, they work on a
Starting point is 01:01:35 Monday to Friday schedule, and will automatically open on a Monday morning. Do you remember that time that happened at the old place we worked in and some crazy guy wandered off the street and cornered you, Megan? Yeah, because the doors worked on the Monday to Friday system and it was a public holiday.
Starting point is 01:01:54 On a Monday, right? I wandered into the studio and was quite threatening. It was terrifying. So that was why that happened that day, was because it was on this Monday to Friday system. So the same thing happened at this supermarket. So on Family Day, a public holiday, the doors opened when someone walked up to them. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:02:17 This is in Canada. People walked in, realized that no one was working, and walked back out and stood by the door. One person arrived. This was the person that called the police and he saw someone leaving the supermarket with two packages of cherry tomatoes. Oh, okay. And he walked in and saw that the store was empty and said to the guy,
Starting point is 01:02:36 hey, are you stealing those? And he said, no, I left money on the counter. That's so Canadian. That guy called the police, not the guy with the cherry tomatoes the other guy who saw him called the police and said hey I think there's a problem
Starting point is 01:02:48 the food basics is opening the doors to everybody even though it looks like no one's here and it's supposed to be shut the police came down ran security footage throughout the whole day the only thing taken from the supermarket after hundreds of people walked through it
Starting point is 01:03:02 were those two boxes of cherry tomatoes that lying son of a gun After hundreds of people walked through it were those two boxes of cherry tomatoes. That lying son of a gun. No, but the guy did leave money. The cherry tomatoes were $3.50. He paid $5 for them and didn't take any change. Oh, my God. So today's fact of the day is in Canada, a supermarket was open all day,
Starting point is 01:03:24 completely unattended. The only things taken were two packs of cherry tomatoes, which a guy paid too much for. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Well, it's time because we're getting close to Easter and this is when it's very easy to let it all get away on you a little bit. There's lots of new nummies. Yeah, there's always some new nummies around about this time of year and trying to get back in our good books after downsizing bags of lollies, moving their production offshore, downsizing the chocolate,
Starting point is 01:04:11 changing the marshmallow egg, is Cadbury. Oh, look who's come crawling back. Well, Cadbury has smashed together their cream egg and their dairy milk block. And they are bringing us the Cadbury cream egg block. Because Maccas were doing the McFlurry, the cream egg McFlurry, weren't they? Yeah, that was a hot play. Hot play from them. Hot play, that was very popular.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Have you got a picture of it? Because is there going to be enough space to get enough gooeyness in between? Well, that's the thing. It is per square. The squares are a little bit bigger because they do have the gooey. I would say a small cream egg, though, not your standard-sized cream egg. Right. In each square, sort of.
Starting point is 01:04:58 It looks like it might be for hard breaking. You know how every now and then they bring out a chocolate bar, and when you try to break it, it doesn't break straight along the lines? Okay. No, you can't have that if you've got a cream filling, Vaughan. No, I know. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:05:12 It's not going to be a straight and easy break. Right. That would be my predictions. I mean, I haven't opened one and broken it, but just from pictures I've seen. It's here in New Zealand
Starting point is 01:05:21 because people have... Yes. News outlets have been reporting on this. They've been testing it in New Zealand because people have like news outlets have been reporting on this. They've been testing it, yeah, and people have spotted it in supermarkets or maybe pre, yeah, some people have definitely had it. Can we not get sent it because we've been a bit sassy recently.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Can't be just lying low. After they're downsizing everything, I think. Yeah, yeah, and we did mention it a few times. I've had reports because, you know, I love the white chocolate. They've got the white chocolate cream eggs in the UK. I know. Unbelievable, but not here.
Starting point is 01:05:52 White chocolate doesn't sell well in New Zealand, though. It can't sell well enough because they never have it. It never fixes its head up. I feel like they did a dream egg a few years ago. You remember their white chocolate brand? Yeah, that would be good. I haven't seen those. I've seen caramel ones.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Would you be down for a Dream Block? You know, a Dream Egg Block? Oh, yeah, totally. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's not real. Since you're doing just normal cream eggs. A combination of things. But yeah, the cream egg, you crack it up, it's got the cream inside,
Starting point is 01:06:21 but it looks to me far more like a mini cream egg. Like you do when you get a peppermint filling or any kind of caramel filling. Yeah, it's got the cream inside, but it looks to me far more like a mini cream egg. Like you do when you get a peppermint filling or any kind of caramel filling. Yeah, it's in there. Yeah, it's in there. Yeah, so with this coming to the shelves, it's just another reason we're going to have to watch ourselves and not get fat.
Starting point is 01:06:36 50 days till Easter, by the way, for that long, long weekend. And if you're going to take the three days in between that and Anzac Day or that week, you can score 11 or 10 days off by taking three annual leave days if you work nine to five. More days for treats. More days for, yeah, exactly,
Starting point is 01:06:53 Easter eggs and nom-noms. Fleece Warner, Megan, and if there's one thing we love on this show, it's a true crime, murder mystery. Murder mystery. In Megan, and if there's one thing we love on this show, it's a true crime murder mystery. Murder mystery. In fact, you'd say in the last, like, few years, the amount of true crime shows on Netflix, boom, through the roof, eh?
Starting point is 01:07:14 Yeah. Like, people just can't get enough. And would this be one of the first ones that really, like, took hold of the world? I'd say so. It was Netflix's first real massive hit with a true crime, wasn't it? An unsolved true crime.
Starting point is 01:07:28 It came after the Serial podcast. Yeah. Which, by the way, HBO are about to release their documentary, which picks up from where that left off with apparently new developments. Adnan Syed. Yeah, so that's going to be on HBO. So I don't know who's going to pick that up here,
Starting point is 01:07:46 whether or not it ends up on Soho or TVNZ On Demand. Get it. But that's going to be amazing to watch as well. But the murder mystery we were talking about is called Making a Murderer
Starting point is 01:07:55 in case you haven't seen it. It follows Stephen Avery who was accused of murdering Teresa Hallback. Now, he's been incarcerated for years. Yeah. For a long time.
Starting point is 01:08:07 He was wrongfully imprisoned and convicted for another murder, wasn't he? Or was that an assault, a sexual assault? Or was that a murder? It was a sexual assault and murder, I believe. Yeah, because I don't believe that witness was around to say that wasn't him. And then, so that was proved that it wasn't him. He got out and then was charged. Convicted. Yeah, convicted of this't believe that witness was around to say that wasn't him. And then, so that was fine. That was proved that it wasn't him. He got out and then was charged. Convicted.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Yeah, convicted of this other murder. Yeah. And there is, if you haven't watched season two, there is a new attorney who has been on this case, Kathleen Zellner. Now, Pete and I are huge fans of her. She is just such an ass kicker. Because I think you can watch season one of Making a Murderer and you can finish it and think, you can be on the fence.
Starting point is 01:08:49 You could be like, he's guilty or he's innocent. You can go either way. And I've had conversations with people that are like, no, he's guilty. But then after season two, I don't think there's any way that you can think he's guilty. She gets every piece of evidence that was used in the trial. She gets the car that was involved and she does all her own testing.
Starting point is 01:09:10 And it's that testing that has led to this latest tweet from Kathleen Zellner. So this is the attorney. Yeah. Stephen Avery update. We won. Back to the circuit court. The truth wins. So this means that he could get another trial.
Starting point is 01:09:26 It's not a given. It's not a given, but it's a possibility. Yeah, so when they go to the circuit court, they have the ability to grant a trial. Wow. Which, if they did, she'd win, because there's no way that, with all that evidence... All the evidence in season two just makes you angry
Starting point is 01:09:42 and so upset that Stephen Avery's even in prison. Because I think season two was almost better than the first season. Especially with her as a character. I want her to be my auntie and if anything ever goes wrong in my life, I'll be like, Kathleen. And she dresses like, what's the woman from 101 Diamond? Cruella de Vil. She looks like Cruella de Vil. She wears those big hats.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Yeah. Oh, and Pat, she has lots of people trying to rile her up, but she doesn't need to get to her. You have to watch it just for Kathleen. She's great, yeah. But that's great news for supporters of him. Stephen Avery, yeah. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan.
Starting point is 01:10:18 The podcast. For more, check out ZM online.

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