ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - July 04 2019

Episode Date: July 3, 2019

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ZM. Head music lives here. Fletchvorn and Megan, the podcast. Thanks, Anya. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletchvorn and Megan. Good to know that the Wellington trains will be back up and running this morning, despite them having to what? Rearrange carriages. What, like, did they accidentally put an engine in the middle of like... That could be a good idea. That would add some extra speed because half

of its energy would be pushing, half of its energy would be pulling. So you've got like locomotive, carriage, carriage. No, I reckon carriage, carriage, carriage, locomotive, carriage, carriage, carriage, carriage, locomotive, just for an extra oomph. That'd be real fun, like right in the middle there. Yeah, but then what if like the middle locomotive breaks

and the others don't? Well, that's the same as if one locomotive's towing them at the front. Is it? Well, I assume so. If it's going to break, it's going to break. I guess so. Do you know, on the cricket, we could still not make the semifinals if Pakistan score 480 and then get Bangladesh out for under 60.

Okay, that would be the highest one day total ever. I would happily not have the black caps in the semifinals if that amazing game of outlandish cricket happened. Yeah. That'd be fun. Kind of a bit sucky though that you get into the semis, losing three games. Yeah, but it's because we did so well at the start, eh? We did so well at the start, didn't we?

Yeah. Good on us. But absolutely rolled by England last time. Coming up on the show, you almost sound like you know about cricket. Well, I know how the numbers work, and those were not in our favour. All right, you lot, listen up. It's story time. Story time. three news headlines.

Vaughan and Megan pick one of the following three. Headline one, Nevada police clarify rules for T2 lane after ticket. Headline two, Fallon picks worst place to drop gun. I thought you were going to say drop guts. Drop guts. To drop gun. And headline three, mum's anger over arcade game. Those are your three headlines.

Oh, I love a good mum's anger over arcade game. Because it's an arcade game. How offensive could an arcade game be? What was one? One was Nevada police. No, Nevada police clarify rules for T2 Lane. That would be two people. Yes.

Okay. Correct. Okay. As opposed to a person and... And what? A houseplant. No. Mannequins.

No. Ficus. No. A horse. I don't think you could guess, to be honest. Whereabouts was that? USA. Nevada. Youabouts was that? USA. Nevada, you're right.

A tiger. No. Do you just think of the hangover? A gambling machine. Yeah. And then what was in the hangover? Yeah, no. I don't know.

What was in the car with the T2 person? Well, I can't tell you. It's against the rules. You can either have that story. Or you could have, no, it's not an animal. A boat doll Don't Google Well no I

I Um Do you want story number three But you also want to know what Yeah well I want to know I think the arcade one Would be harder to Google Right

Dead body doesn't count A dead body You have broken the rules They drove a hearse down a T2 lane You've broken the rules Of story drove a hearse down a T2 lane. You've broken the rules of story time and I'm not happy about it. Rules are mad to be broken.

Story number three. Mum's anger. Okay. We go to the UK now where a mum is angry after spending £100 so $200 New Zealand dollars on arcade machines to win a teddy for her child and a claw machine.

Why is she angry? She could have stopped at any time. Cheryl, who's 34. I'm going to show you a picture of Cheryl. Well, she's called Cheryl and she's 34. I don't think I know to see her picture. She went to the local arcade with her five-month-old son while on holiday in East Sussex.

Wait, so this kid isn't even old enough to be like, but I want it, but I want it, but I want it. Also, she went on holiday to East Sussex and then went and played an arcade game. It's a shitty holiday. Well, this is true. The machine cost one pound for four goes, but she pumped nearly 40 pounds into the machine Well, this is true. The machine cost £1 for four goes,

but she pumped nearly £40 into the machine before she complained to staff that it must be rigged and that she hadn't won anything. She claimed they looked at the machine and adjusted a setting on the machine, and the next go, she won the Dumbo Cuddly toy. The staff then changed the settings, the machine settings, immediately after. But she wanted a second toy for her child. So she put in another 60 pounds into the machine over the next few days.

And she complained again. This is on her. I'm sorry. Yeah, I mean, for 100 pounds100 you could buy how many soft toys? Yeah. And if you witness them changing the setting, winning, and changing it back, that would say to you, I'm not going to put any more money into that. No.

We've done an expose in the past on the show, haven't we, about claw machines, and they do have a setting in there, a looseness that tightens the grip of the claw. So from time to time, depending on where the setting is, you could be giving away no toys at all. Correct. Yeah. Silly. Or if you can get your fingers in there, all of the toys will be yours. Or if you could get a small child

up in the chute, they can just pass them out normally. Yeah, a five-month-old would have fit. I mean, you can't guarantee it's going to grab the right toy. Push them up as the soft spot on the top of their head closed over by then In case you like Hit the flap a bit hard Sweet

It looks like a light flap Yeah Oh was it a light flap Yeah Okay Well then that's alright Flesh forna Megan The podcast

ZM The island That was used For fire festival This is the This is the First one You know the one In the documentary That got kicked off Yeah Yeah So the one This is the first one.

You know the one in the documentary that got kicked off? Yeah. So the one that they shot the promos on. The little one. Yeah, the smaller one. They said it was Pablo Escobar's private island. And that's when the word got out. They said, you can use this island, but you're not allowed to say that.

Yeah, and that was their main marketing thing. But then also they couldn't fit everybody on that island. They couldn't fit everybody on the other island, and it was way bigger. But when I first read that the Fyre Festival Island was for sale, I thought it was the big one. Right. So there was a lot of infrastructure on that island, and a lot of what looked to be like locals who had privately owned homes. And there were already hotels, right?

Yeah, so it's not that. Okay. It's the initial island that they used for all the promo shots where all the sexy models went and romped around and... Saddleback K is what it's called and it is for sale

for, I've worked out, New Zealand. Yeah. About 17.9 million New Zealand dollars. Is that all? What a steal. But then how many... You're like a billionaire. Oh, yeah.

I'd probably have an island. I'd have an island before I had a boat. Because you'd just get a private... If you were that rich, you'd get a private jet from wherever you lived and you could land straight there. Because they landed on a private jet, didn't they? Or was it a small plane? No, then they landed in a seaplane, didn't they?

They went somewhere and then seaplanned. Right. Is there like a house on there? Is there like a house on there? Is there like a... So there's seven beaches, Megan, a main house, several smaller cottages, and compelling views over one of the most best seascapes in the world. Oh, I mean, that video sold... According to the real estate.

That entire festival. I would 100% just put the fire festival video on as, you know, how they do like a real estate thing. Yeah. It's like, this comfortable three-bedroom home has wonderful indoor-outdoor flow. And if you're looking to get a foot in the property market, this is just the house for you. They always speak like that for some reason.

They'll be like, here's the bedroom. It's got lots of light, new carpet. This one's on. Here is the bedroom. And as you can see, a wonderful selection of fully synthetic carpet. And if you pull these wonderful Roman blinds up, it's an absolute... What do they say about it? It's a sun-soaked paradise where you can retreat from your family

and enjoy some quiet time with a book or a wine. They always... I should get into that. Is it one voice that does them all? No, no, no. They all sound... They're trying to sound chill about the house. They're trying to sound chill about it,

but trying to sound chill about it. They don't want to shove it down your throat, you know? No, no, no. They want you to get excited. They're amping you. They know all the words to get you, like, cozy family living, which just means, like, small, you, like, cozy family living. Which just means, like, small, but, like, rooms.

Right. And you get jazzed because you're like, I love being cozy and I've got a family. Right. Well, Harcourt's doing an open home at the island this weekend. Yeah, the flag's been put under the back wheel of their car. The boat. Yeah, yeah. Under the boat.

A back wheel of the boat just to hold it down and it'll be flapping in the... Yeah, and take your jandals off. Yeah. Before you go in. The boat. Yeah, yeah. I back wheel of the boat just to hold it down and it'll be flapping. And take your jandals off. Yeah. Before you go in. Hi there. Just sign here. So I can scan you

for the next. And then they'll call you and they're like, so that $18 million island, were you interested in another viewing? And you're like, no.

I was just being nosy because I live next door. Just wanted a cool Instagram video, basically. Yeah. It's been proposed that a noise should be attached to electric cars and electric scooters because due to their silent nature, they pose a danger to the visually impaired community. Of course, yeah, right, because they can't see you coming.

No, they could hear traditionally vehicles that made a noise and would not step out or would watch themselves or maybe stand still to make it easier for you to go around them. Well, even those that aren't visually impaired, like Councillor Christine Fletcher, she nearly got hit by one of the lunatics and she wants them banned forever. Oh, she wants them banned.

Anything fun. So she'll have anything fun banned. Anything silent. Silent reading. She doesn't want silent reading. She wants to know when children are reading. Yeah. She will absolutely not stand for anything silent.

Libraries. So there's a proposition that noise gets added to vehicles of an electric nature. Now, this is what I think the European Union have said that this... It's going to be a law or it is? Yes, that electric cars are going to have to have this noise. Sounds almost like when you rub your finger around a champagne glass. Or the start of an indie song.

So just as they're driving, it's just like... That noise comes on when it goes... The whole time. It's something to do with speed. I'm not sure if it's below a certain speed or above a certain... I think it would be below a certain speed because below 12km an hour. Below 12km. Thank you, Producer James.

Right. Coming in hot in the air there with that bit of information. Praise where praise is due. Under 12km because that's where they're likely to be around pedestrians. Right. But of course, when they're going over 50km, that pedestrian would have to be on the motorway. Or on a very busy road.

I was going to say, because you wouldn't want to be in the middle of nowhere and your car's going... While you're still doing that noise. That's quite a good noise. It's also in the interest of safety. In the Netherlands, Domino's delivery scooters, they've gone 100% electric. Okay. So you go out, you deliver your pizza, you come back and when you come back you just plug it in and you charge until

you're ready to deliver your next pizza. I've had my pizza delivered by Domino's on an e-bike. On an e-bike. This is an electric fully like moped. Oh yeah, okay. But electric. So given that they are completely silent and also dangerous, this is true. This is the sound of what you all hear so

you don't get hit by a Domino's electric scooter. Domino's, Domino's, Domino's. Allegro. Domino's. Pizza. Domino's, Domino's, Domino's. Like it, like it. Domino's, Domino's. Are you joking?

No. This is actual footage. Domino's. Pizza. That's brilliant So even Is that idling? That's him idling Yeah

So like Even the sound Yeah Is a person going It's a recording Of a person going Dominoes Dominoes Pizza,inoes, Dominoes.

Pizza, pizza. Would even blind people find that annoying? It would be very confusing if you had not been told about it, right? I know. Just going along, yeah. Dominoes, Dominoes, Dominoes. Pizza, pizza. From the ZM Think Tank, this is the Top Six.

Well, congratulations to New Zealander Jenea Wilkins, who's been living in the UK and credits her new plant-based swimwear line with staying in an office job for too long. Okay. Wanted to spread her wings. So this is a neoprene alternative that is a plant product that you can make swimsuits out of. She put it on Kickstarter and it got $37,000 New Zealand dollars.

It got its goal. Got its goal. So she's going to kick this off and give it a go. So basically just plant-based. So the stuff in it that was like plastic and neoprene won't be used. Well, that's good. Yeah. I don't know what it means for the longevity.

I'm sure it'll last just as long. If that you need it. Are we opening ourselves up to sea turtles though? Nibbling us? Cute. I'd take a nibble from a sea turtle. Okay. They're pretty cute.

It'll be easier to get a picture. Yeah. Selfie, yeah. Yeah, you hold out your butt and then you just really quickly move it and take a photo. Yeah. So the top six plants that would make good plant-based swimsuits. Okay. Number six, pumpkins.

Pack it in the pumpkins, ladies. Cut a pumpkin in half. Slice it in half. Yep. Take out as much as you need. Half for each bird. Because you could have... Oh, I was imagining you ground the pumpkin down

and then made a material out of it. But you're just saying just cover the pumpkin in half. I thought he was meaning the skin because it's quite tough. Yeah, well, that would be the outside of it. But then the idea is that if you've got small boobies, you don't need to scoop as many seeds out. But if you've got big nunners, a lot. Or you could use a buttercup instead of a crown.

I mean, it's completely up to you. And for lads, just a squash. Just a butter... Upside down butternut. And again, it's completely up to you. And for lads, just a squash. Upside down butternut. And again, take out as much as you need. You're wasted. You should have been on Celebrity Treasure Island with these survival skills. Making togs out of pumpkins. Because pumpkins, of course, won't want to grow wild on

tropical islands. In Fiji, most definitely. Most definitely. Number five on the list of the top six plant-based swimsuits made of actual plants, the fiddle leaf fig. Just because it's just one of those plants everybody's got to have at the moment. And it's a big leaf, isn't it? Mine, I had to take like six or seven leaves off mine

and now there's like five left on it. And they're all nice and green. What have you done? I don't know. You're over-watering it. It's not in direct sunlight. Not in direct sunlight. It's getting enough fresh air.

I've had this plant for, like, this is one of my longest servings. So it's just slowly dying. So it's just seen all of its friends die and it's given up. It's like an old person in a retirement home. It's healthy, but it's just given up. I think I'm going to go to the plant shop and just buy a whole new one. You just need to chill out with the watering. No, I haven't been watering this one too much.

How often? Every now and again. I think you need a supermarket trolley. And every now and then you put all your plants in it and you take them outside. I look like a crazy cat lady. And when it's raining, because then they get a natural watering and it washes the dust. Are you dusting the leaves? Yeah. Sometimes I put them in the rain shower

and I'll put the shower on it. Like pretend it's raining. No, but don't do that. Why? Because you live in the city. You've got like fully treated water. You've got like fluoride and all sorts of junk. Oh, is that bad?

But that's how I water the plants with. But also, that's a very heavy like downpour on those sensitive leaves. No, he's got the mist. He's got the mist setting. Oh my God, I've got a mist setting. He's got the mist setting. Oh my God, I've got a mist setting. He's got the mist setting. Oh my God, I've got a mist setting. The mist setting is just when you turn it on low and it dribbles out.

Yeah, it's a mist setting. Number four on the list of the top six plants that would make great plant-based swimsuits, a marrow or a courgette, depending on your appendage, gentlemen. Right. That's the good thing about the, you want to pick it at just the right time. Yep. Or the courgette becomes a marrow almost overnight. Yeah, right.

Yeah. It's kind of like what everybody hoped for when they hit puberty, but it didn't happen. You just get stuck with the courgette. You get stuck with the courgette, but you really wanted the marrow. Yeah. Number three on the list of the top six plants that would make wonderful plant-based swimsuits, the harakeke flax. Oh, okay.

Woven traditionally by Maldi into many a thing. Ropes, bowls, all sorts of fixtures. Actually, one of the earliest bikinis was a flax. Perfect. Let's get back to it then.

The old flax kini. I'm just worried it's quite firm. Like, are the edges going to really stick to your skin? You might have, like, a bit of slippage at the side. No, you can wear them down. Right, okay.

Yeah, you can wear, you can, like, thread. There was these old machines called a thrasher, and the thrasher would pull the fibres down a bit and make it more of a softer rope. How do you know that? Found flax thrasher. Because one day someone was talking about how important flax was for early New Zealand. Because it was an abundance of flax.

Yeah. And it was a real, like, a really important industry in New Zealand, the flax industry. And then, like, synthetic ropes and stuff came in and kind of stomped it. But I looked it up. Right. Massive industry for Invercargill. And they had many a flax thras up. Right. Massive industry for Invercargill. And they had many a flax thrasher. Right.

And they might even still have a couple of like sort of museum-esque flax thrashers. Right. Whose message, Joe? Is it about flax thrashing? No, mum's message just said the plants don't like winter. It'll be fine. It's going to bounce back. Yeah.

But she lives somewhere where she'd experience winter. But Auckland City, we've had a very mild winter. Not in your apartment, in a city apartment. Especially when you're cranking the heater all the time. Doesn't matter, I'll just buy a new one. That's how plants work. Number two on the list of the top six plant-based swimsuits made of plants. Lilypads.

Because we already know they go well in water. Yeah, they do. They go very well in water. They won't disintegrate. They're quite big. Yeah. So you can make a lot from them. Yeah.

And the number one in today's top six plants that would make good plant-based swimsuits, the humble cabbage leaf. Oh, okay. If mothers will tell you, sore breasts during breastfeeding or any early stages of motherhood. I saw that on the Kardashians.

Slip a cabbage leaf in there. I don't know what it is about the magical cabbage leaf. Cooling, perhaps. Maybe there's early stages of motherhood. I saw that on the Kardashians. Slip a cabbage leaf in there. I don't know what it is about the magical cabbage leaf. Cooling, perhaps? Maybe there's some sort of magical properties to it. It'll sort out those sore nungas ASAP. So it'll probably do wonders to the scrotum and penis as well. Okay. Fantastic.

For men. Okay. Maybe just, tell you what, if you're just getting changed for work and there's a cabbage in the veggie crisper that's probably going to be bad in a couple of days anyway, and you've already got dinner planned tonight, you're going out. Yep. Rip off a leaf and chuck that in your knickers.

Yeah, take a leaf off. Don't just, like, jam the cabbage on it. Yeah, but then you get home at the end of the day and it looks like what's left in the bottom of a supermarket trolley. Oh, bro, I'd say ditch it around lunchtime. You can probably find a docket down there as well. Yeah, because you don't want to go and learn to that brown juice that always turns into if you leave it in there. Look like you shit yourself.

That is today's top six. Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast, ZM. A cleaning expert in Britain has said every day we should be washing or replacing our tea towels. Not replacing with brand new ones, but I mean like replacing with other ones in the tea towel drawer. Yeah, right.

You shouldn't leave a tea towel hanging out in the kitchen. I go through, oh, every day I'll pretty much. I'm pretty savage with my tea towels, so they always end up, I just chuck them in the laundry because they're pretty,

if I'm cooking or anything, by the time I'm done, they're pretty wet. Yeah, because I'll use mine to finish up wiping the bench at the end of the dinner. Yeah, you wipe your bench and then you give it

a once over with the tea towel. But that actually could be worse for your bench though. Because you're like smearing all the all the previous junk on there. Stuff on the tea towel.

So this isn't just somebody's thoughts. This is actually backed up in a study that was done in 2003. The University of Bristol asked a range of families to prepare a chicken-based meal in their kitchen. Different sorts of chicken meals,

but chicken was the common factor. Then when they were finished, they analysed all the different surfaces of the kitchen. So the tap and the sink, none of that tested positive for bacteria, like campylobacter or salmonella or whatever, but what did were the tea towels and the dish sponges,

like the wiper. See, I'm not a fan of sponges and wipers. We grew up with X-Lows, those blue centimeter thick rectangles. We always had one of those. But those things lasted until they were literally falling to bits. They would have been an absolute hive of bacteria by the time we were finished with them. But every now and then

mum would pour a boiling jug over them. Oh, that does it. That would do it. There we go. We're all right. Yeah. So the one place they did find the cable back

with the tea towels and the sponges now, they said the reason being is that you don't think about how often you touch the tea towel. Like you just said, you kind of use it for everything. But I'll always wash my,

if I'm doing chicken or I'll always wash my, if I'm doing chicken, I'll always wash my hands with soap. Right. At the sink. And then I'll dry my hands on the tea towel. That's fine. But you might go further up the arm with the tea towel than you did with the soap.

So there might be a little bit of that. I'm thorough. You're thorough? You're a sour hand washer? I don't like these accusations. Well, it's not personally at you. I'm just saying this is what they found with the study of the chicken cooking families.

Okay. So the tea towel kind of goes everywhere. You might touch your nose and then touch the tea towel. Right. You might wipe the, just wipe something

off the bench. You might, it might fall on the floor. Yeah, right. She's just saying the tea towel and then it gets a bit wet because you use it

to dry dishes. By the way, you've just rubbed everything that you've rubbed on the teatowel on the dishes. Yeah. And then it gets moist and it gets warm. Okay. Which is the perfect breeding ground. Fine.

I'll wash it every day. That's great. Do you not? How long do you leave yours for? I'm not here to be shamed. I already got shamed for my flannelette sheets last week, and I bought new sheets, so I changed my sheets. Now I'll get onto the teatowel.

Why did you buy new sheets? Because I told you I only had one set of flannel sheets and I don't have a dryer. Oh yeah, that was grim. So I've changed my sheets. I bought new sheets. So now I will change my tea towel. So does this mean you're changing your sheets once a week now? Yeah. I can get a rotation.

It does mean that I'll have to have my flannel sheets out in the house for like a week to dry. They do take a while to... Put them in front of the heat pump. Which I don't turn on. Put that on for an hour and you'll have it dry. And you'll have a warm house. I have to wait for my hour of free power and then I like crank the heat pump.

Crank everything. I'll put it in front of the oven when I'm cooking dinner. There we go. No, that's fire. That's got house fire written all over it. Yum! When I go to bed I'm like... Imagine jumping in bed and it smelled like rice camera.

Yum. That would be a treat. I'd drift off to sleep. Such a happy boy. So, yeah, just chuck your tea towel in the wash when you're done with it. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Well, a warning from a New Zealander and a New Zealand vet has gone viral around the world.

A warning for cat owners that have salt lamps. Okay. Now, do you, producer Caitlin, do you have a salt lamp? Are you, you're all into this kind of, don't you have it?

Or is that PJ that had a salt lamp? No, I have a salt lamp. I use it as my night lamp, like when I read my book and stuff because it's just chic. I don't know. They do look pretty, don't they?

Yeah. Like a pinky kind of colour. Yeah, but let's not be under any idea that it's doing anything else. Is it supposed to do... I think you're supposed to leave them on 24-7. No, well, that's a fire risk. No, no, no, no, no. Because if they aren't left on for that long, like the whole time,

then the salt melts. No, it doesn't. It does. whole time then the salt melts. No, it doesn't. It does. It does. The salt melts. Then it leaks and then that's why you get... It like sweats.

Sweats, that's what it is. Why leave the lamp on then? It keeps it dry. Keeps it at a temperature where it won't melt. Sounds like you need to take your lamp on. We've got one,

Megan, you've seen it in our lounge, that little one. That's just left on 24-7. Oh, I don't know. And it puts good energy into the room. No, I don't know. And it puts good energy into the room. No, I don't know. Sure it does.

Yeah, all right with your bloody ions. Yeah. If that was the case, why aren't salt miners the happiest people on earth? They probably are. Yeah, because I watched this thing about they look miserable in the Himalayas. They're carving out all this rock salt. They've just got a bitchy resting face. They're actually internally very happy.

They're stoked. That's just how they look. Well, anyway, ay resting face. They're actually internally very happy. They're stoked. That's just how they look. Well, anyway, a New Zealand woman, her name's Maddie Smith. She noticed her cat Ruby was acting strangely and just thought maybe it was the cold weather. But later that evening, the cat's condition deteriorated.

She was unable to walk, eat or drink and struggling to see and hear. So she took it to the vet and the vet said, well, it's suffering from brain swelling due to sodium poisoning. Because it had basically been at this lamp. Because you know what, cats, even if you've got a bit of a sweaty hand,

they'll lick your hand. They love the salt. They can taste that, can't they? They can't taste sweet. No. Because you know how dogs can eat chocolate, it would be really bad for dogs. It's actually worse.

Chocolate's worse for cats. Oh, right. More toxic to cats, but because they don't have sweet receptors, they get nothing out of eating sweet food. So they don't eat it. They're like salties. Right. So yeah, if you've got a salt lamp around your house and you've got a cat, you've got

to be careful of that. Wow. But I'm surprised this hasn't been kind of a problem before. Because everyone seems to be all the rage is salt lamps for the last year or so, hasn't it? But maybe cats aren't. This is like studying for a Venn diagram

how many cat owners are also salt lamp owners. Maybe they don't coexist. What a fascinating Venn. What a fascinating grass. Because you know what else you're not meant to have if you've got a cat?

Peace lilies. Or any lilies. Yeah, really bad. Any lilies. Critical because you know me, a cat, piece lilies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or any lilies. Yeah, really bad. Any lilies. Mmm. Critical, because you know what I mean? Daffodils. I love a Christmas lily.

Yeah, but you can't have one. Well, you can't have them out and about. No, it's the little, um. Or you cut out the middle bits, eh? Because that's what my mum does. It's the pollen. I just pull the stamens out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Stamens, that's the word. My mum always pulls those out as well. Mostly because they'll stain the tablecloth, but also because of the toxicity. Yeah, right. Okay. This is why. Fat.

This is why. Fat. This is why. This is why. This is why. Fat. In Wellington, there's an eatery. Many an eatery, actually, but one specific eatery.

Many fine eateries. Mama Brown is that eatery. I can tell you this is a completely unpaid mention. Okay.. Mama Brown. Is that eatery? I can tell you this is a completely unpaid mention for Mama Brown. 250 Wakefield Street in Wellington, if you're wondering. Because at 11 o'clock today, when it opens to celebrate the 4th of July,

Mama Brown is going to have, for a very limited time, one hour, the Krispy Kreme Donut Burger. Now this is to celebrate Independence Day in America, the 4th of July and everything American. Let me explain to you this sweet and salty smash up. You start with a Krispy Kreme donut.

Yep. Plain glazed. Okay. A plain glazed donut. On top of that, so you cut that in half and use that as the bun. Yep. You will put southern fried chicken. One piece of that so you cut that in half and use that as the bun. You will put southern fried chicken. One piece of southern fried

chicken. On top of the southern fried chicken you will put two slices of cheese and two rashes of bacon. Then on top of that put another whole donut. Glazed donut. Then on top of that put another big bit of fried chicken.

Repeat process with aforementioned rashes of bacon and cheese. A nice donut. Yep. Then on top of that, put another big bit of fried chicken. Oh, my God. Repeat process with aforementioned rashes of bacon and cheese. Top off again with the half of the donut you didn't use on the bottom. Right. Sound good? I'm going to need a knife and fork for this, aren't I? I'm not done. Because then you have to pour over a quarter of a cup of maple-flavored syrup.

Oh, my God. But don't worry, it's not all burger because you get fries with it as well. That's technically two burgers because you can cut the donut in the middle, right? Make two. It is every calorie that the average adult female would need for the entire day. So you could eat this and nothing else. 2,000 calories. Okay.

And that would be your daily allocation. Is that with the fries? Yes. But you wouldn't be able to do all the fries, depending on how many fries I could eat. I don't think I could eat all of that. No, I couldn't eat all of that. It'd be too sweet for me. It looks too massive.

It'd be way too sweet. You'd definitely half that. I'll give it a nudge. I could do the two chicken, the bacon and everything. Yeah. But then the maple syrup on top of the... Oh, it's still saying young though. Happy 4th of July.

So it would be all of your calories for the day. Yeah. But not all the nutrition. No. Oh, right. So just take like a Centrum. Have a green juice or something. A Centrum.

A Centrum multivitamin. Maybe a Barocca for your bit C's. Some Omega fish oil. Sitting there with your vitamins beside you. And a woman's multi. Yeah.

There would actually be some people that think that's fine. That's not fine. I'll do that. I'll take a multi and I'll be absolutely fine and then I'll just drink water

for the rest of the day. Oh, that's going to fly off the shelves. Yeah. You'd imagine. I don't know how many Krispy Kreme, because it's not Krispy Kreme that's doing this.

Again, it's a restaurant. So they just must be buying a whole lot of Krispy Kreme donuts. At the airport. Yeah, doing an airport run. And for one day, for one hour of today, to celebrate the 4th of July, it's going to be available. I mean, you could make that at home yourself.

Bacon, cheese, stop at KFC for some chicken. Yep. But when you make something yourself, you tend to realise what goes into it and like... You start feeling guilty. Yeah. Whereas if you just turn it up and it's plopped in front of you. You're like, oh, eat it, done.

Yeah, done. Eat it, done. It would be more like... And it gives you time as well when you're waiting to have a cup of water for your multivitamin. Yeah, you want to take your multivitamin before you want your stomach to get your multivitamin before it gets a bit busy. Dealing with everything else involved in that massive stack. Fat.

I sure hope this pre-recorded laughing isn't after something inappropriate to laugh at. But I just want to take a moment to say thanks to Spark for sponsoring the Fletch, Vaughan and Megan podcast. You can grab Spark's $29 prepaid rollover packs and get stacks of extra value. Back to the podcast. This did give me a bit of a giggle yesterday. An Indian restaurant has found a way, a loophole, to use their single-use plastic bags. Because obviously the law has come in, there's a $100,000 fine for anyone that's giving away single-use plastic bags.

So I've got a question because that was from the 1st of July, but I went to the supermarket yesterday and they've still got the fruit bags that you put your fruit in. Well, I'm about to tell you my explain that. Okay. So the ban came into effect, excuse me, on Monday. But plastic bags without handles are exempt. So that's because they don't have handles,

those little thinny ones at the produce. They can carry on using them. But then you can use it in a shopping bag again as well, can't you? Yeah. Odd. Yeah. I would have well, can't you? Yeah. Odd. Yeah. I would have thought, because, you know, Caitlin brought in this mesh bag for me because I bring in my fruit every day.

Yeah. But I've got to get some more of these. So when I go to the supermarket, I've got like, you know, four or five. Yeah. From a produce. Because it's actually a really neat idea. I've got a mesh bag, but the mesh isn't. I think, Caitlin, that's as close.

I think that was almost a thank you. Almost. I did say thank you at the time. Yeah. It was almost. But then the other day I forgot my mesh bag and Caitlin told me off. Yeah, I want you to use it for what it should be used for. Well, I know.

I need to find out where you buy these from. Where do you buy them from? Is that hinting at me buying you more? No, you tell me where. I bought it from an eco store. I can't remember the name of it. Those places are expensive, aren't they? I've got heaps. You can have a couple of them. Yeah,, you tell me where. I bought it from an eco store. I can't remember the name of it. Those places are expensive,

aren't they? You can have a couple of them. Yeah, but you're like there hand-washed, and you buy a five-litre jug. Well, no, she's saying a eco shop. That's the eco store

that does the soap I like, the coconut soap. Just Google it. You'll be able to find some. Yeah, I'll buy some online at West or something. AliExpress. And they'll be here

in two years. In eight plastic bags. True. So Paradise Indian Takeaway. This is an Indian restaurant in Auckland. They obviously do lots of takeaways and they have found a way to use the plastic

bags they already have. They've cut the handles off. So they are just like a little plastic pouch. I love this. Now they have said, and I kind of agree with this, they said it's a temporary measure. They're saying we support

the ban, we think it's great for the environment and everything, but they had a whole lot of stock to clear. They had a bunch of plastic bags that they needed to get rid of. And what's the alternative? Burn them. Throw them out?

Yeah, I kind of see their point on this. Then they wouldn't have even been single use. But to be fair, they also did have six months. Everyone's had six months to know about this. Yeah, right. But maybe they bought like you. Seven months ago they bought a year's worth. Yeah, well, that's the thing.

Yeah, so I'm kind of on their side. You can understand a bulk buy. Yeah. Yeah. But then, you know, it's also the rules, isn't it? They could use them for other stuff. Like taking out the rubbish and burying it in a landfill. Yeah, yeah.

Underground. That's the thing, once the bags are out there, like, what do you do? You just chuck them away. Sounds lovely. There's great free advertising for Paradise Indian, that's Sandringham Road near your old house, Vaughan. Do you ever go there? Where is that one in the corner, are they?

It's 591, and it's rated 208 out of 1,800 restaurants in Auckland on TripAdvisor. It sounds like they have a bloody good butter chicken and cheese and garlic naan. You're such a basic eater. Let me, let me. I am basic, but you know what? I'm happy every time I eat a basic eater. Let me, let me. I am basic. Well, you know what?

I'm happy every time I eat a butter chicken. I have eaten there. I have eaten there. I was more of a fan just up the road. There was satcha. Oh. Now that was very authentic. Yeah, okay.

That's what I go for when I go for Indian food. I like the authenticity of it. Right. And I think these guys were a little bit more upper class with their price tag as well. Somebody, a couple of reviews yesterday coming in after the ban of One Star. So they may, I don't know if they'll carry through with this because it might be affecting their rating. Somebody said, very unimpressive. They've found a cunning little self-serving loophole in the plastic bag ban, One Star.

Oh, right. But I mean, still, they shouldn't be reviewing them on the plastic bag. They should be trying the butter chicken and if they like it. But again, what is the alternative? Like chuck them out? What are they supposed to do with those bags? Yeah. Yeah.

Are you reading the menu? No, I was trying to think of something creative to do with the plastic bags. A windsock? Yeah. That's about all I've got. All right. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. So I've had an email from someone who will remain anonymous

because we don't want the other person in the situation to be identified. That will become... Problematic. Oh, obvious when I read it. Yeah. So it is something that's concerning her and her relationship. And I didn't know exactly how to answer it. So I'm going to put this to everyone here.

Let's approach this with sensitivity. So this is like you're chatting with your homework. Yeah. And you want all of us to help. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I'll read you the email I received.

Hi, Megan. I really enjoy listening to you guys every morning and enjoy hearing your opinions on things. So I would be interested in your opinion on an issue I'm having in my relationship. I've had a couple of long-term partners in the past and this has never crossed my mind before, probably because I've always been satisfied

with our intimate times. Okay. And I suppose I'm not 100% satisfied with our intimate times. Okay. And I suppose I'm not 100% satisfied with my current relationship. I've been with my partner for three years. Everything is fantastic, apart from how infrequently he wants to make love. I still think this could be the guy

I could be with for the rest of my life, but I guess this is an issue that plays on my mind a lot. I feel a little bit inadequate because of his lack of wanting to make love with me. The thought of him watching adult content, I'm editing as I

go, makes me feel ill. So my question is is it wrong that the thought of it makes me feel ill. So my question is, is it wrong that the thought of it makes me feel sick? Or is this normal for a person in a relationship? I don't know if I should be feeling this way or if I just need to suck it up and get on with it. So is she saying he's getting home from work, going online and getting his satisfaction? I'm not sure if she's saying that or if she's coming to that conclusion.

It's the only reasonable conclusion she could draw, right? Yeah. Because he is not wanting to have sex with her. Yeah. Right. They've been together three years. She doesn't say how frequently, but it doesn't sound like often. I didn't catch it in the email, but has she had a chat to him about this?

See, that would be the first thing I would say is talk to him about it. Yeah. But it sounds like he's just making excuses for not getting intimate. Maybe she does. Maybe she said, you know, like, why not? It's a very interesting conversation.

I don't know what to say to that. No, I know. Yeah. Because obviously for her, it's a big interesting conversation. I don't know what to say to that. No, I know. Yeah. Because obviously for her, it's a big part of the relationship. I mean, she doesn't obviously, it doesn't have to be all the time, but it should still be some time. Yeah. And like, I don't think adult content is bad,

but like if you're not getting any intimacy, then maybe it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If somebody's spending their time with a computer rather than you for that certain facet. But maybe it could just literally be like a libido difference in the relationship. Like he's just, he doesn't

He just isn't interested in sex. Yeah. But he obviously has been at some stage because they've been together three years so he's set a bar at some stage. How do you bring that up with your partner? You can't. I'd say in a full-blown argument.

Preferably while drunk. Right. You know, when is the healthiest moment to air any relationship? In front of everyone. In front of all your friends. Yeah, in front of everyone. In front of everyone. Yeah, yeah.

And record it. That's always good to look back on and see how reasonable everybody was. How do you bring that conversation up? I don't know. Like, that would be so hard to do. It's like, hey, why don't you want to have sex with me? But then if you don't ever bring it up, like, casually and, like, talk about it, it is going to blow up and you're going to say it in a negative way

in an argument or something. But, yeah. Because, I mean, all relationships, I mean, obviously obviously they all start with a bang don't they But you know they do Some people like to save the bang for marriage Well they do But there is banging But it's fair to say that over the time of a long relationship

It does get less and less doesn't it Not to say that it doesn't happen There's the old saying If you put a penny in a jar for every time you did it, before you got married, and then after you got married, took a penny out, you'd never empty that jar. Really? That's not true.

Yuck, you didn't have to say that, Megan. That's not true. I mean, maybe for someone less born. Wouldn't even go close to the blue. Wouldn't even bother taking the lid off the jar. You don't want your pennies going off. Leave the lid on the jar, put it in the fridge. Well, okay, well, what about,

because you have been married for how long now? And with Sade for how long? Oh, how long? We've been married for nine years at the end of this year and together for 15 years. So what would you say? Just have a sook like I always do when I've got a problem. Have a sook, make everybody feel bad.

No, I don't know. I'd definitely talk to them about it. You'd wait until you got a hint, like once you'd done it, when they're feeling really great, you always hit dudes after that because they're really great. You are a predator. If you wait until a man has just

been in the throes of passion to hit him with some serious stuff, you are a nuisance and you are a predator. You just have to put it down there and be like, wasn't that great? We should do this more often. How great was that? I had fun.

Did you have fun? We should do this more often. We all had fun. It's like going out for dinner. We should remember how fun this is. We should do this more often. How great was that? I had fun. Did you have fun? We should do this more often. We all had fun. It's like going out for dinner. Let's remember how fun this is. We should do this more often. Yeah. Yeah, but it's like having a pre-match review after the...

You don't... The All Blacks don't sit down right after the end of the game. Oh, I'm not saying they break it down. No, they do it on Monday and review how they all went. Why? You're too tired. Yeah, you've just played 80 minutes, haven't you? Well, you just want a couple of Steinlagers in.

You just want to go to the pub with the lads. I don't know. Anyway, love, this has been fun. I'm off to the pub with the lads like you do after a rugby game. Well, so I guess we want your help now because I don't know how to answer this. We're not experts, clearly. We're not experts, no. So 0800 DARSARLS-AT-M, 9696.

And I guess, what's the question we're trying to answer here? Well, there's two kind of questions. Is it wrong for her to feel like watching adult content makes her feel ill about it? Yeah. And how does she approach this with her partner? When they've obviously got different libidos or he's not interested in doing it anymore. Have you ever been in that situation? I totally agree with her partner? When they've obviously got different libidos or he's not interested in doing it anymore.

Have you ever been in that situation? I totally agree with her. If he's choosing adult videos online over her, 100% problem. Yeah. I'm not against adult videos, but it shouldn't come at the expense of your partner's pleasure. No, no.

You're like, oh, sorry, I can't. I just, you know. Sorry, not tonight. In Vaughan's defense, he always asks her first. You do, yeah. Always. I'm a gentleman. Always ask.

No, thank you, she says. You're like, fine, 15 to 20 minutes. So that's how long I need. I'll just be in the study. The study's too packed. Okay, 0800 dials at him. If you can help, you can text him 9696. So we've

had some correspondence. This is the email we are talking about from a female listener. I suppose I'm not 100% satisfied in my current relationship. I've been with my partner for three years. Everything's great, apart from how infrequently he wants to make love. And then the thought of him watching adult content

makes her feel ill. So there's no definite confirmation that he is. That's her speculation, and it makes her feel ill about it. So many messages and calls. Emily, what do you think? Well, for one, I kind of, like, I was in the same boat. I kind of found the, like, adult content only disgusting

because I wasn't getting anything from him as well. Right. And, like, I just ripped off like a Band-Aid and asked him. You can't really beat around the bush about it, especially after three years. So, and how did that conversation go? Did it go well? I mean, I ended up having it a hundred times

before we finally split and it never changed anything. So you had this conversation over and over and over again, but it never got through to him? No. Wow, and so you were just like, I can't do this anymore, it's over. I thought he was the one too,

so I waited another four years before I split with him. So I was with him for seven and we got engaged and all that. And it still never changed anything. So what, do you think that people just, you just had a different libido, a different drive? Yeah, well, like, we're like still best friends now kind of thing. And we just realised that we'd grown to the point where we didn't have the same interest

in that sort of stuff. And if he no longer wanted to sleep with me, then we obviously weren't in the same boat that we were seven years ago. And so we were probably better off as friends, which is what it ended up being, just a really good friendship. Right.

Wow, okay, so she needs to talk to him about it. She does. Emily, thanks for your call. Stuart, you've been in this situation. What's your advice? So my girlfriend made me sit down with her and just have a frank chat. You know, she made sure, hey, I need to talk to you. I need to talk to you about this and we need to talk about it.

She made a time, you know. That way if you make a time, you can't get around it. You've got to deal with it. I'd still probably try and reschedule. So how did the chat go? Has things resolved themselves? Yeah, things were resolved. So she sat down and just laid it all out.

She wasn't feeling like I was physically attracted to her anymore and things like that um it wasn't the adult content that i was watching it was just uh my libido had dropped because of other things that i was dealing with but i didn't even realize that that had happened right and so i just made a conscious effort to appreciate her physically a bit more. Right. Because a lot of people are messaging in, like, a lot of things can affect stress. There's medication. There are guys and girls messaging in saying the loss of libido, A, they don't know it's happening. Yep.

And it can be stress-related. It can be anything. If there's no confirmed adult content in this relationship, somebody said you shouldn't assume there is because it affects, everybody's affected wildly differently. Even people that maybe have put on weight or have changed bodies, body shapes.

Yeah. That also, they might feel insecure and then they're like, well, I don't want to be even naked in front of my partner that I've had for a year or two. Yeah, right. There's even things like that. Stuart, thanks for your call.

Kay, you've been in a similar situation. What did you do? I have, and I walked. We weren't even together that long, so we were sort of in that honeymoon sort of phase. And I had the conversation with him first about it, and similar to the girlfriend of the previous caller, it made me feel like crap.

And, you know, I've sort of been cheated on in the past. I didn't bring baggage through, but it sort of, it really does something to your self-confidence. You don't feel wanted. And that's what I said. And he said that, you know, he was stressed at work and all that, like you guys were just talking about. And I gave him like another couple of months.

And then after that, there was no improvement. And I just had to let it go. Because I'm not going to waste my time on someone that I think doesn't want me. Yeah. Yeah, right. Okay, fair call. All right. Thanks for your call, Kay.

Some messages. So many. Like, where do we even start? Yeah. I think you've got to have, I think the message is you've got to have this conversation. You've got to have the conversation. Because like we've said, you might not, it could be a number of things. Yeah, he might not even realise.

He might be affected like stress-wise. It could be anything. And lots of people who have been through it. So definitely, if you're listening, don't think that you're going through that. Like you're the only person going through it. I would say from the 400 odd texts we've had and multiple phone calls

that many people are in the same situation. Have a chat. You know what? Communication, key. The key, yeah. It's the key. The communication is key. Maybe even bring in a third person.

Like a counsellor. As a counsellor. Yeah, that's what I was meaning. Yeah, to counsel. Yeah. You know what? You're like that. Like the third person for the other thing

that everybody thought you were talking about there. That's a really hard conversation to have. Yeah, well, people aren't even having that conversation straight afterwards. You know what would make this better? Another person. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. Well, it's the fourth day of July.

Happy 4th of July. American Independent. It's dry July as well, but there's something else that producer Caitlin's doing for the entire July that we wanted to talk about. Yeah. Now, what is it? What have you called it? It's called Plastic Free July. I think that's the name of it.

Millions of people around the world do it on this, for this month. So the idea is... The first I've heard about it is you. You're allowed to use plastic. So there's different types. You can try and just not use takeaway cups or takeaway things.

You can try to go the whole month without using any plastic. Or the one that I'm doing is not reintroducing new plastic into my life. So've got like so you pick the easiest one no that one's in the middle yeah imagine trying to go a month without using any plastic yeah I know pay for something worth your plastic credit card oh yeah I use Apple pay on your phone on your, which is made of plastic. Bingo.

Damn it. And then you'd have to sign. Imagine if you had to sign something. With a pen made of plastic. You can get pens that aren't made of plastic, though. But the insides are. The tube would be. The ink tube would.

They might be a steel. Use a pencil. Use a pencil. Go for a pencil. Okay, yeah. And it's really good because it is making me think a lot about different things. And like I bought deodorant the other day, guys, and it came in cardboard, which is very exciting for me. Wait, how did that work?

What was the holder made of? What's holding it? It's cardboard. Like the whole thing is in a cast of liquid. What are you, just rubbing a bit of cardboard under your arm? No, like I think it's just what it's made out of. Oh, so the tube is cardboard. The tube is cardboard

and you just push up the tube like you would with those like popsicle things. Like a glue stick. Like a glue stick. So is the middle core, is that plastic? No.

What is it? There's no plastic. What is it? Is it wood? There might not be a middle core. There's gotta be a central. Oh, there's not. It's like those,

it's literally, yeah, it's just like a roll of like, it's got coconut oil and like lemongrass's not? It's like those... It's literally... Yeah, it's just like a roll of like... It's got coconut oil and like lemongrass and stuff. It's all organic. And I asked James to sniff my armpit the other day and he said it smelled good. So I've done...

Not smelling. What's the actual truth, James? What, is she starting to pong? No, it was quite discreet, actually. Okay. See? Very discreet. So...

I was expecting the worst. One thing at a time. I'm really, really trying. Like, I'm using a kick up... They had lemongrass and coconut in them. I'm surprised she didn't smell like a laksa. Oh, do thing at a time. I'm really, really trying. I had lemongrass and coconut in them. I'm surprised you didn't smell like a laksa. That's what my deodorant is. It's like a crayon, like a pastel, and you rub it on. Yeah.

It's like lemongrass and coconut. Did that cost a fortune? Yeah, it was about $18. I'm sorry, but no. No one's asking you to do it. We just need to support her. Thank you, Megan. But it's like a day before paid in,

she's like, I don't have any money to buy lunch. Because you bought an 18-yard... I'm not buying lunch because I'm doing lunch at home from my cans of beans. No, I actually... So it's really tricky to try and keep on track. How's it gone the first three days? Because we've caught you out a couple of times, haven't we?

So the first two days were great because I went to the supermarket on Sunday, which was the 30th of June, and I bought everything that I needed in plastic then. And then the first couple of days was really good. I just had to catch myself. I was like, oh, I'd love to go and have some sushi. And then I was like, well, I can't do that.

But maybe if I take the container. You could take it. There's a sushi take a container. You could take your own. Well, there's a sushi place next door. You could take a plate from work. Exactly. So it's just keeping, it's just remembering things. So I've got stuff in my car. Like I've got, well, I've got like reusable containers,

reusable knives and forks, a reusable straw. I've got all of that in my car. So at any time. But yesterday I came across a problem. So I don't know if you know that, but I've got a boyfriend. Yeah. And he's quite sick at the moment. I wanted to do something nice for him because everyone says I'm really mean to him.

Because I got him sick in the first place. So I got some Uber Eats delivered to his house. Okay. And I got a really healthy like avocado on toast, which I knew would come in a paper bag. Yeah. And then I wanted to get him a smoothie because it would make him feel better. Yeah. But that came in plastic. So you know plastic

July is going terribly. But technically But you're thinking about it, right? I'm thinking about it. Technically that plastic didn't go to me. It went to someone else. My boyfriend. Right. True you. And then also and then, okay, so there was one other thing that happened yesterday. And I was cooking some meals

for my friend who's got a sick child and I like, because I'm not good with meat, but I knew that I should cook meat for them. Yeah. So I cooked like

a spaghetti bolognese. Spaghetti comes in plastic and so does mints. But I feel like if you're doing such nice things for other people and you're still

conscious of it. Again, I'm not using that plastic. It went to for other people and you're still conscious of it. Again, I'm not using that plastic. It went to, well, the plastic still went in my bin. But it was a very nice gesture for someone else. You're thinking about it. I'm really trying, guys. It's actually quite hard, isn't it, really? Oh, my God, really hard.

But even just being conscious of it, like, going forward, you'll be much better anyway. Do you know that there's plastic in teabags? Like a teabag has plastic in it. Where? Like in the little, in the bags. Like plastic is hiding everywhere.

Oh no. You're also sitting on a plastic chair. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah, but it's not single use. You know, you use that every day. It's a single use thing, yeah.

True. Are you guys not chucking your chairs out at the end of your show? No. I just throw mine into the street. That'll be why we're low on chairs. Okay, this all makes perfect sense now. ZM's Fletch Warner Megan, the podcast.

Deep fakes are something you may have seen on the internet. There's been a few examples. I've seen a Barack Obama, a Donald Trump, and a Vladimir Putin example. These are people who have delivered a speech where they're sat perfectly still looking at the camera. They're people you're familiar with. Yep. Distinctive voices. And people use technology to make it look like they're saying something completely different.

And they're pretty, I mean, it's early stages, but they're pretty incredible. Very convincing. Very lifelike. It's far more convincing than technology had allowed up until a couple of years ago. Yep. Deep fakes now are getting to the point where you can take just any video of anybody

and in an app simply highlight their mouth and their nose, the parts of the face that really move when they talk. Yeah. And you can make them pretty much say anything you like. And it's as simple as just working it in an app. Right. With 3D modelling software and everything.

And people just be able to do this at home. You could make a video in Final Cut Pro or edit audio in Pro Tools. You'd be able to download an app and kind of make it happen, which is scary. Some really scary stuff because someone can make you say something racist, homophobic, like something you wouldn't normally say. Yeah. And then you've got to spend your time defending it. How do you defend that?

Well, it gets worse because an app that was downloaded 500,000 times before it was deleted from app stores and banned from coming back, it was an app called Deep Nude. Using the same basic premise, it uses AI to transform an image of somebody clothed. Woman, by the way, was the primary target in this. They hadn't yet updated as they had promised to include a male version.

But you could take a photo of a clothed woman and it would realistically render what she might look like naked, given the outline of her body while in clothes. Wow. And put the head on seamlessly. Did it look, I don't, it's been banned, but do you have any

examples of like, did it look realistic? I'm not trying to be pervy. I haven't seen any, I haven't seen any examples, but this was downloaded 500,000 times. Wow. But see, that is, again, that's scary because if that's where we're heading, like, how do you defend yourself and say, that's not me? Like, do we all have to get, like, tattoos or something on our naked bodies?

Like a barcode. To say, to show, hey, this is my tattoo. This can't be me. You know what I mean? What was the theory behind creating that? Because even the premise of it makes me feel sick. Yeah, I don't know. Oh, the people who did it?

Yeah. Oh, 100%. Like, there's no... It's just creepy guys. There was no... This isn't the byproduct of an app invented for a positive purpose. Yeah. It's called deep nude.

That is the problem that we have in society, is, like, using women's bodies as like, as just an object. You know, we're objectifying women. That's straight up objectifying women. It's really disgusting. What about if I say I took a photo of you without you knowing, Megan. Yeah. Nude.

And sent that around. That's covered by the law, right? Yeah. That's an object. What do they call it? Revenge porn. Revenge, that's covered by the law, right? Yeah. That's an, what do they call it? Revenge porn. Revenge, that kind of thing. Yeah. And people have gone to court recently for that

and, you know, have done time and Home D and stuff. Yeah. But if you, if I'm faking a picture of you, nude, does that even count? Because it's not you, is it? No. But it is. But it isn't.

But people don't know it's not me. And so the same harm is done, but would the law even cover that? So in the US Senate last year, they had a dedicated legislation. They called it the Malicious Deep Fake Prohibition Act. But they say it was at risk of violating human rights. So they use Tom Sainsbury as an example. So when you're using a Snapchat filter even of someone else's face and you're like blah, blah, blah, Paula Bennett,

even that can be deemed as like inappropriate now. But see, that's obvious it's not. And that satire, I'm sure that would be fine. But where are they going to have to draw the line? Yeah, it's scary times, isn't it? It's really scary. Because if you annoyed a person or wronged them, they could turn around and make a deep nude of you.

But not even that. I could be walking down the street and someone could make a deep nude of me and chuck it on my, taking away all my dignity and like disrespecting me and for a laugh or something. Yeah. Like, it's really scary. I just hope they give me

a good body and a, you know, sweat. I mean, it's probably going to be better than the real thing, but I'm still going to feel stripped naked.

Yeah. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. What happened? Vaughn, so this is what just happened. Day, day, day, day, day. So this is what just happened.

Fact of the day, day, day, day. I like to move it, move it. I was literally about to be like, I like to move it. And do you know why? Why? Today's fact of the day is about the femur, and it made me think of the lemur, and the lemur made me think of the lemurs on Madagascar. And whenever I see Lima's now, I'm always like, I like to move it, move it.

Okay. Right. Should we go again or do you want to just stop? I think we've done. Okay. We'll end it. All right. Today's fact of the day is about a.

Lima. An instrument used by Tibetan Buddhists. It's called the Kang Ling. And that Kang is their word for leg. Okay. And Ling is their word for flute. It's a leg flute. A leg flute.

It's made of the femur. The leg. The leg bone. The leg bone. Yes, the strongest bone in the body. The leg that joins the hip to the knee. Basically, right? That's you.

So when you die, do you have to be like, I'd like to donate my femur to the knee, basically, right? That's you. So when you die, do you have to be like, I'd like to donate my femur to... The orchestra. Hand me. Well, actually, Megan, the preferred femur used would be the femur of a criminal or a person who died a violent death. Ooh.

What, because they're... Or a very respected teacher. So if you had a very special person that taught you and then they died, you'd have their femur and you'd turn it into a flute. So we wouldn't turn your femur into anything. It's probably not very good. You'd have a bung top on it. You'd have a bung top because of your hip.

Because when you had your hip, was it the hip or the femur that needed the bit? Done. The femur was sweet, that was the hip. The pelvis part needed to be reclined. So yeah, actually my femur that needed the bit. Done. The femur was sweet, that was the hit. The pelvis part needed to be redlined. So yeah, actually my femur is fine. I bet it's been rattling around. Yeah, I mean the top's worn down. Wouldn't be a great flute.

You take the gristle off. Oh dear. Okay. You let it dry. I don't need to be femur shamed. You let it dry out. So yeah, and they don't make any sort of like disguise of it.

Yeah. I'll show you a picture here of the flute made of the femur. It's still got the big joint there, and this is the knee end of things. It's very phallic. Have they just burnt the end of it? It is. No, that's a decorative painting, I believe, Megan. You're right, Fletch.

It is quite phallic there because the joint looks like, well, the end of a traditional dog bone. Yes. Yeah, believe, Megan. You're right, Fletcher, it is quite phallic there because the joint looks like the end of a traditional dog bone. Yes, you haven't picked up a large comical dog bone. Did I miss a bit, do they still do this or they used to do this? No, they still do it on rare occasion. There are still kanglings out there

that they can play. Playing the kangling is a gesture of fearlessness and it's to summon hungry spirits and demons that you would be like fearless to face. Okay, that doesn't sound fun. Okay. So you use it if you're hungry? No, no, no, no.

You're, no, they're hungry, the demons. Oh, the demons are hungry. The demons and the hungry spirits. But you're fearless, so you'll think, A, you'll be able to feed them satisfactorily, and B, you're not scared of their watch. Because we've got Uber Eats now. We don't need to be cutting up people to turn them into boys.

Maybe in Tibet you can summon Uber Eats by playing the king. That'd be lovely. That's a big map. Have you got a sound? Have you Googled a sound? No, I haven't. I didn't even think To go that far

I mean it would be A nice little touch Why do you want to do it now? It would be a nice little touch Can we pad while you do A little bit of playing? There'll be an ad There'll be an ad

Playing Let's get an ad for that What's that app? Grammarly Oh It's I downloaded it Did you?

Yeah I've got it I've got Grammarly You gave in No it's great Kind of just puts a little Line under there It's because you're a grammar Nazi Yeah I don't want to be wrong Anytime someone Alright I think I've got it. I've got Grammarly. You gave in. No, it's great. Kind of just puts a little line under there. It's because you're a grammar Nazi. Yeah, I don't want to be wrong.

Anytime someone picks you up. All right, I think I've found one. Okay. I think I've found a Kangling. It's not an ad? Oh, I'm not plugged in. Hold on, Dad. Hold on, kids.

Hold on, kids. Dad will bloody show you what he's got going on here. That's not a Kangling. Oh, look. I'm skipping through. This is an ad for a plug-in. You plug it into your keyboard and then you can have a can. That's the basic overview.

Oh, okay. So hold on. Here's a llama. Sounds like a bloody bourbon swaler, doesn't it? Is that it? That's it. That's him. Here we go.

Go. Wait, did they blow into it? Yeah. Oh, I thought they had a string. It was hardly worth cutting open a dead person. Oh, no, flute. Flute, you blow into it. They're blowing into a dead person's bone. Yeah. flute. Flute, you blow into it. What were you thinking?

You're blowing into a dead person's bone. Yeah. Yeah, no, yuck. And honestly, and it's not a, because to me, that's more of a recorder because a flute, you go sideways. You go, toot-a-lee, toot-a-lee, toot. Like, this is just a, it's like a horrible Himalayan recorder. It looks like you take the bike valve out of one of your tyres

and pop it in the end there and then like with the feet. And then. Maybe there's a bit of that going on there too. I hope it grows very well in the environment. Today's fact of the day is that Tabishan Buddhists make instruments out of your femur. I like to move it, moveur? I like to move it, move it. I like to move it, move it.

I like to move it, move it. You like to... Move it. Oh, we're still doing it. Fan of the day, day, day, day, day. Flesh for an American. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- There's lettuce cheese. You've got some mustard there. Some tomato. That may or may not be in your wheelhouse, the tomato. Bit of red onion, which I think is a great addition to a sandwich. Oh, yeah. This sounds like a fancy sandwich.

Yeah, but that's your typical ham sandwich to the right where it gives you the link to the Wikipedia article, as many Google searches do. On the left-hand side is this New Zealand's worst bakery ham sandwich. Photo of ham sandwich shared online. And woman shocked to find sandwich only contains two tiny strips of ham. That's on an English news site. Oh, has this gone?

This has gone worldwide. New Zealand, we have a problem and we need to talk about it. Bakeries have been pulling this for far too long. They pack everything in the sandwich at the front of the sandwich to make the sandwich look full and definitely worth the $4 that you're going to be paying for.

When they cut it in half and they stack it and wrap it and it's pointing towards you in the cabinet, it looks chocker with ham and filling. Let me tell you that one such bakery, and we know they do this, but one such bakery has been absolutely called out for it. On the Papakura Facebook page, this was shared saying this can't be okay by anybody. And literally, I wouldn't even say like a circle of luncheon. No. If you cut that into strips no more than your thumb width, there's one strip your thumb width

in one half of the sandwich. Yeah. And one in the other. Like it wouldn't even be a centimetre. They have literally used no more than an inch or entirely of ham on one sandwich and they've packed it at the front and it's on crappy white bread as well.

Yeah. And by the looks of it, not even any marge. No, no, there's butter. There's butter or marge. And one slight dollop of mustard. I'd say a dot. It almost looks like they went to put it on,

but oh no, heck, we don't put mustard on this one. But it's at the front, so it might look to the discerning customer like a ham sandwich with mustard on it. Yeah, the thing is, if you rip people off like this, they're not coming back. That's what I was thinking.

It's not a good long-term plan, is it? No. No. No. How much, did it say how much they were charging for it? I haven't actually seen how much they were charging for it. Not that that's an excuse, but like if it's six bucks or something, that's even more. Oh, no, it surely wouldn't.

It doesn't look like a six-dollar sandwich. No way. No way. No, no, not even in a pub called a bakehouse, they wouldn't have been. But there was an absolute uproar, as you can imagine. No, no, not even in a pub called a bakehouse. They wouldn't have been. But there was absolute uproar, as you can imagine. Like, yeah. It was actually, I apologize. Somebody, I've just found it.

And the story on the Metro website. So this is the British website. New Zealand, $5. $5? That's how much that sandwich was worth. Oh, no. That is. Oh, my God.

Absolutely. She still ate the sandwich and it was worth. They're having a laugh. Oh, no. That is... Oh, my God. Absolutely. She still ate the sandwich and it was yum, but definitely not enough ham. How is it yum? It was literally white bread and butter. Yeah, but if you're buying a ham sandwich... And a thin slice of ham. But, like, a ham sandwich is most of the time only, like, ham, cheese if you're lucky, and on white bread. Like, that's what you expect.

But you expect it to have, like, ham over the... The whole way through. Yeah... The whole way through. Yeah. The whole way through. Very cheeky. At least put one bit of ham on and then a tiny strip on each side to make it look like this too. Yeah.

I mean, I'd find that more, you know, acceptable than... Yeah. ...just two tiny strips. Or even if there were... If you cut a triangle of ham... Yeah. So it looked like there was ham just spilling out of all three sides of the half sandwich,

but then it was hollow. It was literally an empty triangle. Always got to pick it up and have a look. I know that it would have been wrapped in Glad Wrap, but just at least feel. If it doesn't feel that thick. Yeah, but ham's problematic because it's a thin meat. Yeah, true.

It's not like a thick chicken sandwich. So cheeky. Very cheeky. But they were making ham go further. Yeah. And I'm sure they're not the only workplace in New Zealand that tries to make things go a little bit further. And that's what I wanted to ask you this morning.

On 0800-DOLLS-IT-IN. You can text 9696. Yeah. How did you make something stretch a little further at your workplace? So you're talking about workplaces that are selling things to the public. Or like restaurants or bakeries or whatever. Like watering down sauce. Could you're talking about workplaces that are selling things to the public or like restaurants or bakeries or whatever, like watering down sauce. Could you water down sauce?

If you shook it hard enough. Yeah, well, if it's not an oil-based one, it would probably be all right. What would you do to make that go a little bit further? Put a bit of canola oil in? Yeah. I don't want to say that because we don't do that at our cafe.

I don't want to pretend like I know how to water things down. But it would be tempting, wouldn't it? Oh, if you had to do two dishes, but you only had sauce left for one.

How much, like, are you really saving? Yeah, well, that's true. Well, add up. Especially if you're only using that much ham on a ham sandwich. Well, yeah.

Using about a fifth of the ham. I don't know. Would you give many calls on this? Are people going to admit how their work cuts corners? Yeah. Completely and honestly. You can just let't know. Would you give many calls on this? Are people going to admit how their work cuts corners? Yeah.

Completely and honestly. The boss might not even know. You might be doing this. Well, it doesn't have to be in the food service. It could just be any industry. Yeah. The ways that you make things go further that the customers don't know about. Yeah.

Because I think we do need to start knowing about these things, don't we? Expose. Like, do you ever, if you're working in a hotel, pick up a towel that they've left on the floor? Because that's where you leave them if you want new ones. And it's clean. And it's pretty dry, so you give it one of those hard shakes. I would.

And then give it a tight fold and put it back over. I would. I mean, check for stains first. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you'd make sure there's no... Yeah. I totally would do that. Okay, well, 0'd make sure there's no... Yeah. I totally would do that. Okay, well, 0800-DARLS-AT-M-9696.

How do you make something go further at work? Well, a ham sandwich has gone viral worldwide, a bakery in Papakura. So what would be described as maybe a centimetre of ham on each triangle of bread? The worst. Disgraced sandwich of all time. I hope someone does a follow-up.

I hope news crews are in today. Oh, I hope bakeries everywhere are shaking in their boots. Yeah. How about front packing the sandwich and leaving the back empty? Front packing. I hope you've all been put on warning. We should be standing up against front packing. We should be standing up and saying front packing is not okay by us.

So we want to know from you, how does your work cut some corners? How does your work stretch things, make them go the extra mile? How's this? We used to get food scraps from a couple of local bakeries for our animals. They'd be mainly pie cases with the meat scraped out and also American

hot dogs with the frankfurters missing. One day I said to them jokingly, you're not just putting this into a fresh pie casing, are you? Ha ha ha, joking. They told me I was no longer allowed to come and get scraps. Had they accidentally just come across what they do with the leftover pies? They just scrape the leftover pie fillings into new pie casings?

Because that's how you identify an old pie, by the outside, not by the inside. That's grim. Somebody said, my Indian grandmother said one day, she said all of this local Indian places, dishes all taste the same. I'm launching an investigation and this old woman became obsessed with finding out how they made their curries. And she did this to a few Indian restaurants,

found out they'd make one big pot of sauce and then just add more food colouring to make different tasting curries or stir in some cream if it needed to be like butter chicken. But other than that, it was all exactly the same curries. Right. Well, let's take some calls at how your workplace maybe cut some corners to make things go further. Alicia?

When we worked in fast food, one of the managers told us to make the ice cream sundaes hollow in the middle. So you run the machine and you just put it around the outside of the cup to make it look full but it's hollow right down the middle.

But to be honest, that's why I know that they do that sometimes on cones. Yeah, because you scoop into it and the middle's empty. Yeah. Very cheeky. Yeah. But what can you do about it? Ask for another.

Did anyone ever complain? A few people would complain and then we'd just make them a new one because the customer's always right. Well, in this case, they were, weren't they? They were. Hey, thanks for your call. Jessica, what happened? I used to work at a fish and chip shop.

I was only like 14. Okay. But we used to mix like chicken salt and garlic salt with plain salt, so it would go further. Oh! So it was like mixed together in a big container. Okay. And then with milkshakes, you think you're getting a lot of ice cream,

but you're not. You're actually thickening powder, so it thickens the milkshake. I had no idea. Jessica! What's thickening powder? Like corn flour? It's just like a powder.

I don't know. Wow. So you'd be like, this is real creamy and thick. It's yum. It's like ice cream. But it's not. No, it's got powder in it.

Unbelievable, Jessica. I'm going to be looking now when I get a thick shake. I'm going to be, I want to see that ice cream going. Yeah, I want to see it just be made. Yeah. Thanks, you're cool, Jessica. Anonymous, what happened at your workplace? So I used to work for a spray tan salon,

and we charged $25 for a medium tan and $30 for a dark tan and they were the exact same tan. Would you just go over it? I never questioned it though. Did you just do an extra layer on the other one? No, no, no, no. Same tan. No extra layer or anything. So is it a difference in tone in the spray?

No, she said it's exactly the same. Well, you would think, but no one ever, yeah, so bad. Oh, my God, that is terrible. Because if you and your friend, like, one got a medium and one got a big, well, whatever you call it, a large, darker. I'd go home and I'd go, yeah, you're way darker. Yeah, but you'd just be like, oh, it must just show up different on your skin. You'd almost, you wouldn't even need a convecer.

Yeah, you're just a bit paler. Yeah, yeah.'d just be like, oh, it must just show up different on your skin. You'd almost... Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're just a bit paler. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. That's cheekier than the centimetre of luncheon or ham in the sandwich, isn't it? I know. Thank you, Anonymous. When I was in high school, I worked in sandwiches. I got a new manager who was a tight arse,

and he used to change the dates on the food that got used because we'd be like oh this one's got to be chucked out but there'd still be some left in it and he'd put a new sticker on it or just pour the old stuff

into the container with the new stuff but like no point wasting it jeez someone got sick one day and there was like a full investigation by the local council

as to how someone got sick because of food grades oh someone got sick from their yeah and they oh god blew the cover on this operation that their boss was running wow as to how someone got sick because of food grade. Oh, someone got sick from their... Yeah, and they... Oh, God. ...blew the cover on this operation that their boss was running.

Wow. Somebody else... Oh, there was another couple of goodies here. Oh, I work in hospitality, and whenever we were in for a big night because something like the horse racing was on, my boss slash mother-in-law would make us take the empty Smirnoff vodka bottles that we'd been collecting

through various nights in hospitality and fill them up with Kristoff and charge people Smirnoff prices for Kristoff out of a Smirnoff bottle. I reckon that happens more than you think. Oh, 100. Especially when you're drunk and it's late in the night.

You don't, your taste palette's gone, isn't it? Yeah. Unbelievable. That's so dodgy. And somebody else said, I know of a Mexican restaurant who stretch their guacamole with sour cream when avos aren't in season. Right. Recently busted when someone with a very, very large dairy intolerance

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