ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - July 05 2018

Episode Date: July 4, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Fletch, Vaughan and Megan podcast, thanks to Spark. You can stay connected with free Wi-Fi a gig a day on the $19 Spark prepaid rollover pack. Enjoy. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Thanks, Hania. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Great news if you want to pick up a bag of mixed nuts on the way home for fertility reasons. Or a peanut slag. Or you just like nuts. Nuts will help you nuts.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Or a Snickers, yeah. Nuts be got not nuts. They reckon it's because of... Healthy fats. Healthy fats and omega-3. I don't know if you know where else to find omega-3, but... No!
Starting point is 00:00:42 No! Chew it! And salmon? A little bit of salmon marge. Because I'm now a guy. A little bit of salmon. Good for you. Good for your bonos.
Starting point is 00:00:57 And their functions. No, don't laugh, Megan. Oh, my God. We don't need that. Good way to get it. Good way to get it. Good way to get it. No. A little bit of barley. Oh, my God. We don't need that. Good way to get it? Good way to get it? Good way to get it? No.
Starting point is 00:01:06 A little bit of early. A little bit of early, Mom. No. It's not just for the fishes. All right. For the people as well. Give the people what they want. Coming up on the show this morning, we're joined by a special guest.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Caitlin from Heartbreak Island, who had a pretty rough time last night. Like, bullied on the show. She was in tears. What? Oh, I thought you were going to go on George's side. No, no, no, that's not good. Yeah, no. It was rough.
Starting point is 00:01:35 I don't like seeing people cry unless it's a scripted drama. And then I'm like... Right. And they make themselves cry and a single tear rolls perfectly down the middle of their face yeah but sometimes
Starting point is 00:01:48 they use like eye drops they know that when you see it form and it still follows that run yeah
Starting point is 00:01:55 beautiful because when you cry in real life that never happens it's like snotty and in fact Luke Cage
Starting point is 00:02:02 season 2 there's a scene on Netflix there's a scene where someone cries and I think it's the most realistic crying in a TV show because like snot starts coming out their nose. I know! I was like, what are you watching? I was like, it's Luke Cage
Starting point is 00:02:14 she's like, has that woman got snot coming out her nose? I'm like, yeah but she's crying it's very realistic because when you do cry snot starts happening. Yeah. Oh that's quite yuck though. And she doesn't sniff it away. Oh. And she's like,
Starting point is 00:02:26 and it just like drips down and she's got curly hair and it gets caught in her hair. Oh. And then she licks her lips and you're like, oh. Oh. Oh, she's got snot in her mouth.
Starting point is 00:02:37 All right, you lot. Listen up. It's story time. All right, I've got three news stories, three news headlines. Vaughan and Megan, you pick one of the following three. Headline one, speedboat date ends in manslaughter charge. Headline two, that's probably not a nice story. Speedboat date ends in manslaughter charge.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Yeah. Headline two, a fool and their money easily parted. And headline three, police looking for stolen river. Those are the headlines. What? A stolen river? A stolen river? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Did someone divert a river? They may have diverted a river. Because you know, if I ever got a little digger, which is on my list of wants, along with a little tractor, I'd love to divert a river. Are you allowed to just divert a river? I think if you put it back, I don't know, actually.
Starting point is 00:03:33 RMA, the Resource Management Act, would probably not be kind to you diverting rivers. But I watched that Gold Rush Alaska show. I haven't watched the latest season. That's something I must binge. But when they wanted gold under a river, they just diverted the river and I was just like, that is one of the most
Starting point is 00:03:49 awesome things I've ever seen. They dug a river and then just cut down the side and the river started flying a different way and then they filled in
Starting point is 00:03:57 and then they got all, man, they got some gold. Wow. I know, but it was just like the guys in the digger. It was just like the world's one big sandpit when you live in Alaska.
Starting point is 00:04:07 If I had my own river, I'd make one of those cool water wheels. Those old wood ones. Would you have it serving a purpose? No, probably not. No purpose. No purpose. Or maybe it could run your flour stamper if you wanted to turn your grain or your wheat into flour.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Sure, Why not? Get into the artisan bread market. Yeah, sure. And you could say, you know, you crushed it. Yeah. I could go off the grain. Hipsters would pay at least 30 more cents per life, I'd say. They probably would, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Okay, well, we've dealt with that one. Which one? Do you want one or two? I like fooling his money. Okay. Because my mum always says that to me. A fool and his money is easily parted. Well, it's true, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:04:45 It's true. Very true. And I'm always buying silly things. Well, yeah, or, yeah, exactly. So we go to... Or belonging to Destiny Church. Anyway, go on. I couldn't resist.
Starting point is 00:04:54 We go now to America where police are warning after a local woman was scanned, she received text messages from Bruce Springsteen. The Bruce Springsteen messages from Bruce Springsteen. The Bruce Springsteen. The Bruce Springsteen. Born in the USA!
Starting point is 00:05:12 Yeah. And so she obviously was like, well, oh my god, Bruce Springsteen's texting me. This is great. No questions. Your Honour. And he needed help to get some gold out of Dubai. Why is he messaging her? This is all adding up so far.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Well, he doesn't want to do it to close friends and family. Right. Exactly. He wants to keep it outside of his usual circle. And so he's like, well, obviously I've got to get this gold from Dubai and Bruce Springsteen, but all my money's tied up at the moment because I'm Bruce Springsteen. I'm a little tight with money right now. It's been a while since I've had a hit.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Probably not to mention the hundred and whatever million I've got in the bank from all my years of recording. And you know those songs that I wrote in the 80s definitely still aren't being played on, right? I'm not worth $460 million in 2016. Are you shitting me? Are you shitting me? He's worth $430 million.
Starting point is 00:06:03 $60 million US dollars. So we're talking about a half a billion dollar boy. Even if you thought it was Bruce Springsteen, like a quick net worth Google and you'd be like, mate, get yourself out. If you believe Bruce Springsteen's texting you, you're not a Googler. Especially when Bruce Springsteen asked her
Starting point is 00:06:20 for 10 iPhone gift cards totaling $500. Just as the initial, he decided to make some calls just to get the money and the gold arranged in Dubai. Okay. But gift cards for iTunes don't give you phone credit. I don't know. It just says phone gift cards. You know what, I'm starting to believe this maybe isn't Bruce Springsteen.
Starting point is 00:06:43 That's when Bruce Springsteen needed $11,000. Okay. Again, in gift cards or cash money? No, this is a cash money as a down payment to get the gold unlocked in Dubai. And that's when she realised she'd been scammed. When she didn't hear back from Bruce Springsteen. Wait, so she did give him the $11,000? Yeah, and the $500 gift cards as well.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Because, you know, that's who you hear about there. I think recently some staff at Countdown stopped an old mate. He was like 90. He was buying all these iTunes gift cards. And they were like, what's going on here? He's like, I just need like a couple of hundred dollars worth of these. And they're like, what for? Because they knew it was a scam.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Yeah. Someone was trying to scam him out of the cards. Yeah. Apparently at the supermarkets now, old people are buying a lot of them. Old people, out of the cards. Yeah. Apparently at the supermarkets now old people are buying a lot of them. Old people out of the general demographic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:28 You know, more than say what you would give to your grandchild as a gift. The $50 one, they won't, but you know, multiple,
Starting point is 00:07:33 they'll ask. Yeah. Which I think is a great policy. Because I was going to say, add that to the list of things you have to tell like your grandparents or your parents.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Yeah. If Bruce Springsteen calls you, it's probably not him. I'll drop her in it because she won't be awake now. I got a message from my mother-in-law last night saying,
Starting point is 00:07:49 is this a scam? Oh, she didn't, she's not talking about the Air New Zealand dollar flights. No, no, no, no. She was, she was on Pinterest. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:57 She was just cruising around Pinterest pinning God knows what. She's big on Pinterest and she got a pop up that says, dear mobile safari user, we want to thank you for being a mobile Safari user on your
Starting point is 00:08:08 phone and your IP address has been randomly selected to receive a free Apple iPhone X. Oh. And she's like, is this a scam? I said 100%. It's good that she's checking. I know. I said, please. She's like, oh, I feel silly. I'm like, don't.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Always ask. Always ask. Always ask because you're going to feel way sillier when all your money's gone. Unless it's from Bruce Springsteen. Go with your gut. If it's a big name, go with your gut. Of course. Someone at Sony Pictures yesterday had a really bad day
Starting point is 00:08:39 because they were supposed to be uploading a trailer to YouTube for a movie, and that's when they uploaded the whole movie. That's crazy you think about. They put a trailer on YouTube. Somebody has to sit down like when you upload something to YouTube and go through and put all the things in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:57 And you know it would be an intern. That would be a low-level job at Sony. That would be someone's first job. It's not a high-end executive. No. Righto. I'll just take a moment from producing movies to upload this trailer to YouTube.
Starting point is 00:09:08 What's a tag? So instead of, like, three minutes, it was 89 minutes. The movie was called Carly the Killer. Carly the Killer. With a K. Like, K-H-A-L-I. After deciding to retire,
Starting point is 00:09:22 an East LA hitman decides to take one last job to help support his ailing grandmother's end of life care. But everything falls apart when he develops empathy for the targets of his hit and he is forced to make that toughest decision of his life. I've googled the, I don't know if IMDB have watched this or critics have seen it.
Starting point is 00:09:39 They have. You were talking about the rating? 3.6 stars out of 10. Out of 10, not 5. God, you almost wonder if they've done this on purpose. Because people, yeah, are saying maybe it was a marketing ploy, but then it hasn't quite worked because everyone's slating the movie. Right. It's been taken down now, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:55 some critics got the chance to watch it before they took it down. Not before somebody would have gone to that website where you can download things off YouTube. Oh, yeah, YouTube Rippers. Yeah. So no trailer has since been released. There's just broken links for it everywhere. So you know what? We might never see that movie. It says on the article that told me
Starting point is 00:10:14 that he's an East LA hitman deciding to take one last job to help the ailing end of life support for his grandmother. It said that it's already out on DVD in the Netherlands. Oh. Weird. It's not looking like a great release plan, to be totally honest. I always wonder about movie studios when they do that.
Starting point is 00:10:35 It's like, because sometimes we get movies way before the States, but sometimes we get them a year after some places, and they're already online. It's like, well, you're not helping yourself. Heaps of kids' movies. It's just because they know that if they release them any other time than the school holidays, they're not going to get any hits. So we can get movies months after if it's a kids' movie and not like a big blockbuster one.
Starting point is 00:10:53 But yeah, other ones. And then they released one straight to DVD. I cite John Wick and I also see their first one and the original Taken. Oh, yeah, that's right. That was huge. They weren't supposed to be in cinemas. Taken, I think they were like, oh, maybe we'll give it a little run.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Gangbusters were huge. Because they're making John Wick 3 now, aren't they? And a show set in the John Wick universe. Like Netflix or Amazon or one of the online streamers is making a show about hitmen in the John Wick universe. Right. Well, maybe there's roommen in the John Wick universe. Right. Well, maybe there's room now in the hitman universe
Starting point is 00:11:27 for this guy that's... Well, he's retired. Yeah. He's retired. I don't know if you can call that. But yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. One last job to help Aileen Grandma's health. What's your planking regime like?
Starting point is 00:11:41 Oh, well, I do CX at old Leslie Mills. What? The ab class. Lots of planking in that. Is there lots of planking in that? Yeah, well, I do CX at old Leslie Mills. What? The ab class. Lots of planking in that. Is there lots of planking in that? Yeah, I did planking yesterday. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I don't plank. I'll admit it. I plank for a minute and then it's like, oh. Well, that study came out and said- Planking's useless. Planking for any more than 20, or was it 40 seconds or any more than- No, it was less than that. It was like 20 seconds or something.
Starting point is 00:12:05 It's a waste of time. Right. Like, do multiple planks of like 30 seconds and you're fine. But that's easy. Yeah, I don't... It doesn't make sense. Because the more you plank, the longer you can do it for. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I don't either. Oh, that sounded like the start of like an inspirational quote, the more you plank and then you're like, the more you can do it. I was like, oh yeah, that goes without saying. A 60-year-old man who was a former Navy Marine has planked for 10 hours. No. He planked for
Starting point is 00:12:33 non-stop. He started planking. Will you let the toilet break? This isn't like just lying flat in a weird spot. That was the big buzz like eight years ago. He actually did that thing where you go on your elbows. Yep. And you have where you go on your elbows and you have to use your core strength to hold you up. Butt down. Bring your butt down.
Starting point is 00:12:49 In line. That's why it's called a plank. You've got to look like a plank of wood. A straight plank of wood. Yeah, he did it for 10 hours and 10 minutes. What about food and toilet and that kind of thing? I couldn't tell you Megan
Starting point is 00:13:07 He might have He might have sweated out What he might have usually urinated Because as soon as you take a toilet break or a food break That's stopping the plank You've got to reset your plank This is the ultimate endurance challenge He has another planking record
Starting point is 00:13:22 Where over a 24 hour period He planked for 18 hours, 10 minutes, 10 seconds. Is there a picture of his abs? The only picture in the article is him mid-plank. Right. And he's pretty ripped. He's like, you know, occasionally you'll see an old mate on a beach holiday. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:39 And they're like more ripped than you've been in any stage of your life, and he's twice your age. Yeah. He's that sort of ripped. Tanned, ripped. God. It looks like he's doing it at his undies. I don't want to say he is or he isn't.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Right, okay. And he's got a heart monitor on because I guess you've got to, at 60, you've got to be careful. You've got to be careful. You've got to start being careful, don't you? There's some of those old mates at my gym and you're just like, good on you.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Because I'll just give up when I get to a certain age, I think. Yeah, like if I had to get a, like, if I was you, Megan, I would have already played my joint replacement card. I'm out. Like, if I have to get a joint replaced, that's when I stop. Yeah, right. Exercising in any sort.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Because I have an older woman. She would be elderly, and she gets on the treadmill and... Pumps it. It's like old people that run marathons. I take my hat off. I tip it to them. I'm just scared like she's just going to have a momentary lapse and like go off the back of it.
Starting point is 00:14:32 That would be the end of her. She's that little. She'd probably flip. She'd probably hit the ground. Just before she hit it, she'd do a flip. She's that sort of crazy athletic old lady. Just like let it go. Yeah, age is no factor.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Is that a world record for a continuous plank? A continuous plank, yep, 10 hours. And yet again, another 60-year-old that's putting us to shame for being lazy. If it's not eight-year-olds going to university like the other day, it's 60-year-olds being in better physical shape. Hey, well, don't worry about it because by 20, what is it, 38? Two million of us will be obese. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Fletch. Vaughan. And Megan. The podcast. Sam. The Top Six with Vaughan Smith. Hello there. Today's Top Six deals with the fact by the year 2038,
Starting point is 00:15:18 so 20 years away, apparently two million New Zealanders will be classed as obese. That's not good news. No. I wonder what the predicted New Zealanders will be classed as obese. That's not good news. No. I wonder what the predicted New Zealand population will be then. Because that would still be under half. Five? Because we're tickling about four and a bit million at the moment.
Starting point is 00:15:34 In 20 more years, we're going to be way closer to seven, surely. I'm just calling out BMI, though. Like, it's going to call a whole lot of people obese who aren't obese, like the All Blacks. You know? Yeah, because muscle weighs more than fat. Yeah, it's going to call a whole lot of people obese who aren't obese, like the All Blacks. You know? Yeah, because muscle weighs more than fat. Yeah, that's what we tell ourselves all the time. That's okay if you're an All Black and you, you know, go in the scrum part.
Starting point is 00:15:56 But if you're just me, then you can only lie to yourself for so long. I remember they looked at even people like Sonny Bill Williams. Yeah, but Sonny Bill, yeah, I know, but he's an athlete. I think if you're an athlete, you're exempt from the BMI thing. But if you're just an average person. If you work out heaps and you notice your body changing, but your weight doesn't change, you know, then that's obviously your muscle to fat ratio is changing. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:18 So that's the problem I have. Significantly, though. It's going to call heaps of us obese, but we're not. By 2068, the projections indicate a population in New Zealand of 5.3 to 7.9 million. By 20 what? 68. No way. We'll be way bigger than that. Surely.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I'm sorry, Stats New Zealand. When did you become Statistics New Zealand? I can remember when it was like 3 million. Now it's 4 million. And that's like 40 years away. 50... I don't know. It fluctuates, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:16:47 42 years away till that. No way. I've got to say... All of it depends on fertility rates and immigration. That's true. Immigration. Under his eye. Under his eye.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Exactly. We don't know. This would be the fruit. Oh, my God. New episode tonight of Handmaid's. I'm so far behind. I'm not allowed to watch it without sharts since you weren't watching Bloody Love Island.
Starting point is 00:17:06 You're going to get things spoiled for you if you don't hurry up and watch it. It'll be the last episode. Blessed be the fruits. So by 2038 2 million New Zealanders
Starting point is 00:17:13 will be OB. So the top 6 other things 2 million New Zealanders will be by 2038. Are they all negative? Nope. Okay. Number 6
Starting point is 00:17:21 2 million New Zealanders will be eating the non-meats meats. Yeah. Because, you know, these non-meats, these are the new meats. New Zealand's been getting stick this week, eh? Because we should be supporting our meat and lamb and beef. Which is nuts.
Starting point is 00:17:37 As a meat-loving individual, I can still see that it's good to have a vegetarian option. I mean, you're not going to pick that option. God, no. Christ. I mean, if someone in my to pick that option. God, no. Christ, I mean, if someone in my family orders it and they don't eat it, I might try it. Yeah, right. But I'm not foregoing chucking a fush for it, you know?
Starting point is 00:17:53 But I'll try it. I'll try it. I'm not against it. But the non-meats meats are apparently the future of meats. Well, it's going to save the planet, isn't it? But we'll still, by the sounds of that obesity situation, we'll still be eating chips, bread, sugary yum-yums, all the goodies, but maybe a little less of the original meat meat.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Number five on the list of the top six other things two million New Zealanders will be doing by the year 2038 is watching the Robot Olympics. Which, did you see the Disney robots online yesterday that they're making? They're like stunt robots. They're going to use them in their theme parks. They do flips and stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Has it teamed up with that Boston Dynamics? Because, you know, I'm scared of them. I'll find it for you. You'll love it. I do love robots. Do they have minders? Because what if they just flip a switch and suddenly go rogue on everyone? By 2038, that could happen.
Starting point is 00:18:42 And we won't be able to run away from the robots because we'll all be obese. Because I read this thing about AI. They set these two AI, artificial intelligence, computer programs talking to each other. Yeah. And they were programmed in English. Yeah. And so they're having a conversation.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Then they developed their own language almost instantaneously and started communicating between themselves and the humans had no idea what was happening anymore so they turned them off at the wall. They had to shut them down. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Don't trust them. i don't trust robots no do not go as far as getting one of those robot vacuum cleaners and that is it yeah i'm gonna put my cat on it and take a photo but then they drag through your carpet if your cat poos and it runs out over and it drapes all through the carpet. And it's like, I had no idea it was poo. It's like, whatever talking vacuum. You knew what you were doing. Number four on the list of the top six other things two million New Zealanders will be doing
Starting point is 00:19:34 by the year 2038. A holidaying on Mars instead of the Gold Coast. Oh, okay. I'm calling it early that Mars is going to be the new Gold Coast. Okay. When it comes to planetary travel, New Zealanders will just take a quick trip to Mars. As long as there's some cheap Jetstar flights. Oh, yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Oh, yeah. Get some mad grams on Mars. No filter. It's just the red light here. It's the sandstorm in the distance and the scattered light of the sun. It's a hashtag Mars sunset. Number three on the list of the things 2 million New Zealanders will be doing by the year 2038 will be paying the king's taxes to the new
Starting point is 00:20:08 ruler of the free world, Elon Musk's clone number four. He'll clone himself infinitely in a Westworld kind of fashion. I'll have one of the clones. You're creepy with him. Yeah, why do you find him attractive? He's like real brainy, but he's kind of
Starting point is 00:20:24 cute. Is he still seeing... No, they broke up. Amber Heard? Grimes. No, Grimes. I thought he was saying FKA twigs. No, you're getting Grimes and FKA twigs. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:36 With the Tesla necklace. Yeah, he put a Tesla necklace on her and I reckon it's a mind control device. Okay. Here, let me put this on you. Oh, no. I'll do what you want now. Oh, well, that one works.
Starting point is 00:20:50 That's good. Number two on the list of the top six other things 2 million New Zealanders will be doing by the year 2038 are flying to work and flying cars. Come on, flying cars. I know. I've been promised you for so long. Weren't they trying something at Christchurch Airport last year? That was like that little private one-person flying test. And if not flying cars, at least drones that can lift you up by a harness.
Starting point is 00:21:12 So you put on your harness and then your drone takes off and you like fly it. Yeah. That'd be quite cool. Imagine like just Friday nights after work drinks, everyone's just like getting their drones to take them home. Yeah, you press your home button. Because that's what you do on your drone. You can set a home location. Yeah, you press your home button because that's what you do on your drone. You can set a home location.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Yeah, but then you're walking home and someone bombs on you from their drone. Or your drone drags you through the power lines. Because it's above it. It's like, well, I'm sweet. At least it'll carry your torched carcass home to your family and stuff. Drops you off. Dad's home. What's he bought for dinner?
Starting point is 00:21:50 I can smell something's hot and cooking. And the number one thing New Zealanders will be doing, two million of us will be doing over the year 2038, make it hanky-panky with robots. I call it even before 2038. And probably there's a handful of us doing it now. Yeah. I don't know. 2038 and probably there's a handful of us doing it now. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:07 If there's an orifice. You know it's going to happen. People have gone to A&E with vacuum cleaners. Wow. Vacuum cleaners. Cars. The peach tuning machine
Starting point is 00:22:20 at the Waddy's factory. Don't be touching that. Don't put your penis anywhere near the tinning machine. It'll take it straight off. So we know that straws are bad for the environment, plastic straws. So we're trying to phase them out. A lot of bars, towns have banned them.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Are doing metal straws. Yep. Because then you can reuse them, but then they have the bars, towns have banned them. Are doing metal straws. Yeah. Because then you can reuse them, but then they have the trouble that people are stealing them. So there's a new thing that says that they could be bad for your body too. I read this and I was like, no, not using those. They're straws. Because you like straws because if you've got lippy on,
Starting point is 00:23:00 you can pop them into the bottle and it doesn't affect the lippy, right? Yeah, and you're not going to smudge it all over your glass and everything. So, it turns out that straws can give you wrinkles in the same way that smoking does. Oh, because you're sucking in. I mean,
Starting point is 00:23:18 you'd have to be using straws a lot, surely. Sipping. Sip of bottles? Like your gym bottle like but then I squeeze mine yeah I don't have a sipper bottle
Starting point is 00:23:30 how do I do it I've got mine here you're sucking that like a straw you camelback there's other ones so that can give you cavities
Starting point is 00:23:40 so if you drink sugary drinks through a straw it can increase the likelihood of cavities because the straw it drink sugary drinks through a straw, it can increase the likelihood of cavities because the straw is putting like a concentrated stream of liquid directly onto your teeth. Oh yeah, if you go for a straw straight onto one
Starting point is 00:23:54 tooth all the time, I'd imagine it'd melt it pretty quick. Yeah. Never even thought about that. I don't use a straw very often, but when I do I just straight down the pipe. Yeah, I'm a middler. I'm a centaur. Straight on the tongue, straight down the hydra slide. Yeah. Well, and there's also chemicals in straws that you, like, suck in.
Starting point is 00:24:12 The same way that, you know, when you're drinking out of some plastic things, and they say, what is it that they say? No, BPA. Yeah, so some straws contain, like, chemicals. But then BPA is also released over time, whereas if you're only using these straws once, you're probably fine. You're probably fine. But that is the environmental problem with them is that you're only using them once.
Starting point is 00:24:31 But it's the wrinkles that got you. I didn't even think about it. Because often I feel myself frowning. I'm like, don't frown. Because then you get wrinkle lines. But if you're like sucking on straws all the time. Just get Botox. And your lips.
Starting point is 00:24:45 What I know. Everywhere. Everywhere. No, but then nothing moves. Well, nobody said. You can't win. This was going to be easy. Then how do you kiss?
Starting point is 00:24:55 You'd be like. You get them to kiss you or you push you. You get your fingers and you push it. Kiss me. Kiss me. Kiss me. Kiss me with some passion. What. Kiss me with some passion. What?
Starting point is 00:25:07 Kiss me with some passion. Kiss me with some passion. It did sound like you said something else there, Vaud. I was, look, I was doing work the other day on my computer, and August said to me, what's happened to your head? And I said, what do you mean what's happened to my head? And she's like, you've got scratches. Oh my God, those are just forehead lines.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Yeah, I know. And I've got my forehead lines. And in the show days, like, oh, whenever you're doing work. You frown. You always go like that. And you get these lines on your head. And I'm like, work's too stressful. So I shut my laptop.
Starting point is 00:25:38 And that's why I'm not contributing to the show. Because you don't want stress lines. I don't need stress lines. Okay. So this't need stress lines. Okay. So this is how it started. Yesterday after the show what were we talking about? We were talking about food. As often we do talk about food. And you get a cheat meal. Megan mentions her
Starting point is 00:25:56 cheat meal. Yeah. And she said, so she gets one cheat meal, not a cheat day. One cheat meal a week. Respect. But then I was like, well, what's your cheat meal, not a cheat day. One cheat meal a week. Respect. But then I was like, well, what's your cheat meal? And you said you're a nutritionist slash personal trainer. Nutritionist.
Starting point is 00:26:14 You always put an L in there. Yeah, it's nutritionist. No, they're looking after your nutritionals. They're nutritionists. Nutritionist. Okay. Is that it? Seriously, I've been saying that wrong my whole life.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Nutritionist. Nutritionist. Nutritionist. Okay. Is that it? Seriously, I've been saying that wrong my whole life. Nutritionalist. Nutritionist. Nutritionist. Yeah. Says what you can have for your cheat meal, and I flew off the handle because that's not cheating. That's not cheating. So I can pick a place, like a takeaway place or whatever,
Starting point is 00:26:35 and then she'll be like, okay, have this. Because it needs to be in the realm of a certain amount of calories because otherwise you'd be like, okay, burger, chips, everything. That's not cheating, though. That's by the realm of like certain amount of calories. Because otherwise you'd be like, okay, burger, chips, like everything. But that's not cheating though. That's by the rules. This wasn't even what the argument is about. So that started off on that. And I was like, get rid of it.
Starting point is 00:26:55 That's not cheating. I'll tell you how to cheat. I'll be your nutritionalist. Nutritionist. No, Vaughan Smith nutritionalist, please. It's my business I'll call it What a damn well please
Starting point is 00:27:07 Even if it's wrong And I said I'll teach you how to cheat Or I could be your Treat day Cheat day nutritionist Cheat day is about Blowing out
Starting point is 00:27:15 What's a cheat day? You've got to look forward To it all week Yeah It's the one thing That keeps me going Even if you blow out That ruins your whole week
Starting point is 00:27:22 Does it though? Well I don't know But this is how I'm doing my life. Right, so this is how you're doing it. And I'm like, get rid of her. And then you're like, I can't get rid of her. And then it kind of. I don't want to get rid of her.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Well, you don't want to get rid of her. And it kind of launched into the conversation. Fletch and I were like, you don't really need one. Because. I think you're wasting your money. Don't say. That's got to go on. You are wasting your money. On my personal trainer andletch blew up the handle on
Starting point is 00:27:46 my personal trainer and nutritionist who are the same person. Yes, absolutely. Fletch is like, I wish I had money for this and I'm going to save up for this. This is like money. So I have spent my whole life being on a diet and trying to exercise
Starting point is 00:28:03 and I don't eat badly. I don't eat a lot of takeaways ever. Like I can't even remember the last time I went to Burger King. Or like takeaways, I just don't even get them. I've never bought myself a chocolate bar. Ever. I've never bought a chocolate bar for myself. That's sad.
Starting point is 00:28:19 This is what my life is like. But I lost 11 kgs last year for my wedding with her help, which I've never done in my life. like. But I lost 11 kgs last year for my wedding with her help, which I've never done in my life. So how do you explain that?
Starting point is 00:28:29 But then my thoughts are... You would have lost it anyway. You've got a wedding coming up. My thoughts are that you... Like, leading up to a wedding, sure, if you have a thing and you want to get it all done for that,
Starting point is 00:28:40 100%. But now you've got all what you've learned. So you can do it by yourself. That's my thoughts on it, is that your motive, because my thought, people, we've had friends that went to Dubai, they're like, it's great having a personal trainer.
Starting point is 00:28:54 They come to you and they drag you downstairs to the gym downstairs in the apartment you live in. But you don't need that, because you're motivated as hell. I don't know anybody that sets their mind to something and is like, I'm going to get it. Given what you know about me then, I've put on weight since the wedding, which most people probably do.
Starting point is 00:29:11 But I've exercised more than I did before the wedding. So explain to me. But I don't eat badly. But a nutritionist will tell you sometimes when to eat. She tells me sometimes I'm not eating enough. She balances out like my whole day of exact nutrition and carbs and everything you need. You don't need it. So 2 million people of New Zealanders are going to be obese in 2038.
Starting point is 00:29:35 That's because we're not educated on nutrition properly. Because we all know abs are made in the kitchen, right? Last year. You learned all that last year. So to me, you take what you learn and lose in that 11 kgs and apply it to your life. Yeah, but it changes all the time. Just like when you plateau, like you work out heaps and then you plateau, right? So you've got to change something.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Right. And it's not even just like going harder at the gym because that doesn't always work. So what are you going to do? But then you're smarter and motivated. Wouldn't you be able to find that for yourself online? You can't just Google it because it depends on the person. And like my hormones might have made me like weigh an extra 1.5 kgs that week.
Starting point is 00:30:10 But you guys don't know about that either because you're boys. And also my metabolism. I need to eat a certain amount of calories for my metabolism to stay. Yesterday when we were arguing, you were like, oh, well, I'm a woman.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I need a PT. I've got to have one. It's harder for women. I see women at the gym all the time that are self-motivated. It's harder for women. Yeah, but you were saying you have to have it. I have to, yeah. For me to, like, stay motivated, to lose weight, I would say I would have to have her.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Hmm. So I don't think your motivation is, I've never ever thought you lacked any form of motivation. That's the thing, though. But what was the difference when I lost 11 kgs was her. I've always gone to the gym, since I can remember. I've always been a person who does exercise
Starting point is 00:30:53 and I've always eaten reasonably healthy, but the difference was I got someone who showed me how to do it properly. Listen, then my thought of, my tightness kicks in and I'd be like Because yesterday We were so
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yelly about this I know I think we're all We're all having A much more Civil argument I have decided To calm down
Starting point is 00:31:15 I know We're all staying calm I'm still getting Very worked up with No but listen You only Get hot dude Personal trainers
Starting point is 00:31:24 And I understand that Because you want to Kiss them on the face. It's got nothing to do with that. It also really annoys me how you think that you know how women's bodies work. To be honest, I've never claimed that. You have no idea about women's nutrition and how we work
Starting point is 00:31:38 out and how our bodies work out. Our periods, our hormones, all of that. That's why we have personal trainers and people that tell us how to do these things. But not every woman I see at the gym has a personal trainer. But that's each to their own. We're not saying that everyone has to. It's what Megan says.
Starting point is 00:31:52 You were yesterday. You were like, I've got to have one. Yeah. We're saying Megan and I are females that have to have them to help us with. Do you have one? Yeah. Who does my nutrition and I work out with him.
Starting point is 00:32:04 It's a guy. Is he hot? Caitlin, is he hot? You're going... No, no. We're friends. All of them have been hot. I know. That's why I have to get rid of them. I wouldn't trust a person I'm training that wasn't hot. Just personally. Guy or
Starting point is 00:32:20 girl. Even if it was a guy, I'd want him to be a stunner. Right. Because that's who you look at, right? Yeah. Have you seen my personal trainer nutritionist, Rock Hard Abs? Yeah, she's so hot. She's a babe. But it's the accountability as well. Like, if I stopped doing that, then he would stop checking in with me. He'd stop being like, you know, like, what's your eating been like this week?
Starting point is 00:32:39 Let's change things up. Things up. And it's not always like, as you said to Vaughn, like, as you said before, Vaughn, about how she did it last year. She knew all the things. Things change. Like,'s not always like, as you said to Vaughan, as you said before, Vaughan, about how she did it last year, she knew all the things. Things change. Diets are always changing. There's always new things that come out. Like vegetables. White line.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I eat healthy for a week and I work out for a week and I might put on almost two kgs. Explain that to me. But do you feel better? Who cares? Because then, if you're not keeping accountability, then another week will go by and then there's another KG and you don't know what you're doing wrong. Explain that to me.
Starting point is 00:33:10 But I just go harder. No, it doesn't work like that. It's not like that. Because that's what I have to do. At the plateaus, you just have to step up your game, don't you, and go a bit harder at it. Lauren, you're not a female. Do you have a vagina?
Starting point is 00:33:21 No. Honestly, you're not. I don't have a vagina. You don't understand. James, what do you think a vagina? Honestly, you're not. I don't have a vagina. You don't understand. James, what do you think on this? Instead of doing the male thing where you're trying to dispute everything I'm telling you, why don't you just try and understand? I know I'm trying to understand, but my understanding would be,
Starting point is 00:33:35 yeah, I just stop mansplaining, Vaughn. I'm not mansplaining your vagina. You are mansplaining. You're telling me how to work my own body. Typical. No one doesn't want to say anything. Oh, alright.
Starting point is 00:33:53 You can't say anything right. What do you think, James? I pick my time to speak and I don't think this is right. Yeah, no, he's doing it right. Good work, James.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I'm not on anyone's side here. It's also just the way that you feel Your personal trainer makes you feel Really good about yourself Because she's not judging you Or anything like that And it gets you motivated Because she's like this is what we can do And you're like yes I feel great
Starting point is 00:34:20 I'm going to go away now And I'm going to do what she says I can just get that from myself, though. Oh, good for you. Yeah, good on you. Well done. Explain to me why you can't. Explain to me why you can't.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Because I'm not built the same as you. We're different, Bolin. Oh, my God. But don't you want to do it for yourself? Yeah, I'd love to. Sometimes you need a little bit of help. Christ alive. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:46 No, no, I'm not angry. I'm just trying to understand. You guys were like, stop trying to explain it to me. So now I'm just... So now you're just telling us we should just do it. Do it yourself. I would love to be like you, Vaughn. I'd love to get up at three o'clock in the morning and go to the gym,
Starting point is 00:34:59 but I don't want to. Do I? But I do it. Don't think I wake up and I'm like, chip, chip, churrus. Then we're off to the gym. You're allowed like 2,000 something calories a day. I am absolutely not. No, no, don't tell me that. I cannot eat 2,000 calories a day.
Starting point is 00:35:17 The calorie intake I'm on, because I go through my fitness pal, is nowhere near 2,000 calories. What is it? It's 1,300 calories a day. Well, that's too little. If you go to a's 1300 calories a day. Well that's too little. If you go to a nutritionist she would tell you that's not enough. But it is because if it works for me and I feel better and I look in the mirror and I feel better and I'm losing
Starting point is 00:35:33 weight when I stick to it, it is working for me. I've battled with my weight my whole life and I've had to work so hard over the last year. And you've found something that works for you, right? Totally. Yeah, and so have I. But yours cost you heaps of money. You're not paying for it.
Starting point is 00:35:49 This is true. Yeah, I just, I don't know. I just find it in myself to get it done. I'd like to know why people use personal trainers. Like what's your, this morning, what's your why do you need them? Because we're just not agreeing in studio. No. I mean, it's trying to, if, okay, here's one that I understand.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I see people going through like coming back from injuries and they need personal trainers to tell them what they can and can't exert on their body. Well, I also have that. And I'm 100%. Yeah. I get that. So I understand that sort of rehabilitation.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And if it's for motivation, that's cool. But then I wonder at what stage, you know, you can, yeah, you can motivate yourself. I don't know. Try to understand. I'm going to stop now and let everyone else talk. Okay. We'll leave it there.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Yeah. Okay. An interesting article on Airbnbs and how, you know, if you're in a hotel, there's certain etiquette expected and or accommodation, you know, official accommodation, hotels, hotels, lodges and stuff. There's general etiquette applied. Sure. And that's on both sides as the supplier and the consumer of the accommodation. And this is a really interesting piece on an Airbnbs. Everybody's rules are different.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Being that the people providing the accommodation might have expectations of what to expect from guests that might be different to what people are used to. And the people staying there might expect to be able to behave differently. Well, you hear of stories where somebody rents out their Airbnb and it turns out to be like a teenage party or an adult party. A lot of Airbnbs have rules when you're booking. It's like no parties.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Yeah, right. But then if four people are there, is that a party? Or does the party be over eight? And there's a bit of alcohol. Yeah. What constitutes a party? My in-laws run some accommodation in Raglan. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:47 And it's not on Airbnb, but some of the stories of the state that it's left in after people have been there. What kind of? They found a giant rubber glove in a tub of lubricant once. Like, who leaves behind? Are you kidding me? No, like, Robbins, next time we were all having a wine with Robsie, ask her for some yarns about what they've seen on the clean-up after their accommodations have been used. Oh, that would have put me off immediately.
Starting point is 00:38:08 I'd unlist it. Crazy, eh? But this isn't in their house. This is separate to their house. Even still, they're going to go and clean it. I just said burn it all down and start again. Do they give, because Airbnb, both the host and you give feedback. Oh, yeah, they get feedback and the people were like,
Starting point is 00:38:25 lovely, beautiful setting, absolutely wonderful, such a relaxing time. And you're like, hang on. And you were allowed to reply and be like, what did you do there? What have you done? What else do we need to clean? We've cleaned all the surfaces, but I feel like there's more.
Starting point is 00:38:40 So this case in point is from an Airbnb in Paihear, where the people were staying in the Airbnb. We're like, let's wake up early and we'll have a spa and watch the sunrise. Beautiful. But let's not put on clothes. Okay. And I would consider that acceptable in a private area in a spa bath. I mean, it doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 00:39:01 You're naked under your togs, aren't you? Yeah. Especially guys, like if you're wearing like boardies. It's right there. It's kind of loose. Yeah, yeah. It's right there. So the owners of the Airbnb.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Yeah. Now, I don't know if they heard the jets going in the bath or there was some sort of noise that alerted them to the, and they went around to think, oh, maybe something's malfunctioning. Right. But at sunrise, the owners come around and find them in the bath. Yeah. In this private area that they were told was their area to use. Yeah. And go nuts and say, get out.
Starting point is 00:39:36 You're out. They kick them out. It's disgusting. Get out of our Airbnb. You've got hours. Get out of it. But it's their area. It's their spa bath.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Do what they want. I mean, they're not doing anything gross in there. No, they weren't at the time that they were found, apparently. They were just enjoying watching the sun come up in a private area in a bath. But they said, the owners said that was wildly unacceptable to them. Well, it wasn't on their rules. But then who has an outdoor bath if you're not expecting hanky-panky? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Right? I'm under no illusion that Ian and Christine have had a snuggle in the spa at their house. Nude? Probably. Probably. It's their pool. There's literally no difference whether you're nude or not. All your bits and pieces are in there.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Pubic hair gets into the... No! This is why... Pubic hair gets into the filter. I why the pubic hair gets into the filter. I will never, ever use a hotel spa bath or a motor. They're disgusting. This is why. Even the ones that you drain and fill up yourself.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Oh, see, maybe those are the streets. Oh, but you're talking about like a... Like a spa. You go to a hotel and there's a spa. Like, yuck. There's a hundred people who've sat in that. Yeah. I have had hot tub folliculitis before.
Starting point is 00:40:45 It's unpleasant. Exactly. Especially when you think why you've got it. This wasn't this. From the looks of it, there's a photo of it. It looks to be an outdoor bath that you would fill up and relax with a loved one in. Oh, that's fine. Big enough for two.
Starting point is 00:40:56 So not a spa bath, an actual bath. Well, no, like a spa. Right. Bath. Not a spa pool. A bath with jets. Yeah, so you would be naked in that. Yeah, it's a bath.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Oh, calm down. And it says on there, the people who stayed there who got kicked out were like, you know, it says on the Airbnb page, while we live on the property, you can rest assured that you'll have privacy and relaxation during your stay. But they're coming around for a nosy. Yeah. Oh, God. I think they were popping down for a look.
Starting point is 00:41:24 And they got busted. So they were like, we're going to have to, you know when you get busted doing something wrong so you wildly overreact? Yeah. It was one of those.
Starting point is 00:41:32 It feels like that situation. Last night we had our successful second tooth extraction for Indy, our oldest daughter. Is this a thing? Because I never remember
Starting point is 00:41:43 tooth extractions being, like since YouTube's come along Oh yeah. Parents and everyone are trying to remove their teeth in a comical, hilarious, original fashion. No, I because that's what I was like, come on, we've got to get this out. I don't want to touch it. I said, you know, when I was young
Starting point is 00:41:58 my dad slammed in a door. He did the old door trick. Well, I'm sure I had a tooth removed with needle nose pliers as well because I wouldn't stop whinging. Oh, that's something Ian would do. He's still got the same pair of needle nose pliers. And probably didn't wash them.
Starting point is 00:42:14 No, he was probably just like, can I have a look? And then just in one swift move and out grab pull. So you might have seen the video on Facebook and Instagram last night. This is how you removed Indy's tooth. So what's happening here Indy? Um, I've got like this string tied to my tooth and then it's tied to Lulu's collar.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Is she going to run and get this food? Yeah. You tell me when you're ready. Okay, I'm ready. Ready? Let it go. Wait, wait, wait. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:42:41 It's not ready. Sorry. Okay, go. Okay, ready? Lulu, come here. come here, come here. I can't. Good pulling, Lou. Good pulling, Lou. Lulu the dentist. Yay, Lulu.
Starting point is 00:42:55 So, just popped right out. Dog removal, tooth removal via dog. Success. What we don't have, well, I've deleted them. But we had videos of all the unsuccessful attempts. So this wasn't even the initial idea? No, no, the initial idea, we've got this Nerf bow and arrow. Oh, I remember seeing that girl who actually had a proper archery.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Well, I'm going to go buy a crossbow. I've been looking. They're not actually as expensive as you'd think. Are they illegal? No, you don't. No, hunting. Easy to buy one. Easy peasy to buy a crossbow.
Starting point is 00:43:24 You don't need a crossbow, don't I? What are you going to do with it? Tooth extraction. So that's one that I've got planned. One of our other plans was, and this all went, I wish the whole thing had been filmed because it was just going chaotically bad, was to remove it using the drone. Can they pull?
Starting point is 00:43:45 Let me tell you. So we tied, first of all, a bit of dental floss to Indy's tooth. Yeah. Tied it tight and then on a long piece
Starting point is 00:43:53 of dental floss, tied the other end to the drone. Yeah. My drone. So then I'm holding the drone because of the dental floss and it could suck
Starting point is 00:44:01 the dental floss up into the blades. Yeah. I was like, I'm going to hold the drone for takeoff. Okay. And Indy knows how to drive it. So I said,floss up into the blades. Yeah. I was like, I'm going to hold the drone for takeoff. Okay. And Indy knows how to drive it.
Starting point is 00:44:06 So I said, I'll give you the remote. Yeah. When you're ready, push the two controllers in and it will take off. Right. Oh my God. So she's holding it and I'm like, are you ready? And she's like, yep. And she pushes it.
Starting point is 00:44:18 So it goes and it starts. So I'm just holding it and that's fine. Yeah. Then the drone, because I'm holding it, thinks that it's right next to the ground. And when it takes off, it has to get to a minimum height. Yeah. It's programmed to go to a minimum height of a metre, I think. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:33 So it's like, well, I'm not a metre off the ground. I better try to get a metre off the ground. And then so the drone goes, and the engine's pulling my hand. I'm like, I don't know what's going on. Sade, grab the remote. And she's like, I don't know what's going on. Sade, grab the remote. And she's like, I don't know what to do. And Indy's like, ha, ha. So she drops the drone controller
Starting point is 00:44:50 and the drone's just going, trying to get out of my hand. At which age, because we went up to the school to do this. Yeah, it's a big open field. Some kid from Indy's class who's in after school care comes across. He's like, is that a drone?
Starting point is 00:45:02 Cool. Can I have a go? Can I have a play? I was like, now's not the time! And then he's like don't let it go dad don't let it go I don't want my tooth
Starting point is 00:45:09 to be pulled out I'm like shut it grab the remote turn it off she's like I don't even know how to work it and August has just
Starting point is 00:45:14 got her fingers in her ears being like shush shush Everyone's yelling I'm panicking so I reach down holding this drone which
Starting point is 00:45:22 it would have ripped the tooth out it would rip your tooth out. Oh wow. The upward force it had like it was almost pulling its way out of my hand. And I reached down and pressed the land button and the confirm land and the drone calms down
Starting point is 00:45:36 at which time Indy's bawling because she's like who's going to rip my whole face off. This kid's like drones are so cool. Can I have a turn now that it's stopped? I'm like, you've got to go back to your people because you're not mine. I'm not going to lose my mind
Starting point is 00:45:52 in a second. Shardé's like, this was a stupid idea from this time. Which is how a lot of our ideas end with her screaming at me this was a stupid idea from this time. How will she be when you propose the crossbow idea? I'm not going to. I'm just going to Arrive home with a crossbow
Starting point is 00:46:06 Oh gosh Right And a big bale of hay With a target on it Right well we look forward To the third instalment Of Indy Well the next one
Starting point is 00:46:14 That's wiggly Is the big one at the top That's definitely Going to need a crossbow I think it's a good idea I have to go to my dad's farm I think for that extraction Yeah because you don't
Starting point is 00:46:23 Want to miss the hay bale And hit the bus that goes past. Yeah, that's very true. Or a person. Many things could get hit with an urban crossbow. Correct. Joined in studio by special guest Caitlin from Heartbreak Island. Good morning. Morning. Did you watch last
Starting point is 00:46:37 night? Yeah, I watched last night. How were you feeling? It was brutal. I didn't sleep very well last night and it wasn't nice watching that, obviously. But, yeah, I'm just, I don't even know. I'm, like, a little bit speechless about the whole thing. For those that missed it, shall we explain what happened?
Starting point is 00:46:54 Because it was brutal. So they had a game last night, I guess you'd call it. They described it as an exam about each other. So you had to answer questions honestly about the other people playing, right? Yeah. So everyone else answered Yeah, yeah. So everyone else answered Caitlin, basically,
Starting point is 00:47:10 and, like, threw you under the bus. A lot of things that you would disagree with, answers that you'd disagree with, right? Yeah, I mean, I can admit that I'm a little bit of a girly girl and I'm a little bit of a diva sometimes, but not in a bad way. There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, yeah, I was happy to, you know, own that. But when it was things that were quite nasty, I was honestly, I was shocked. I was shocked that they with that. Yeah, yeah. I was happy to, you know, own that. But when it was things that were quite nasty,
Starting point is 00:47:26 I was honestly, I was shocked. I was shocked that they thought that of me. And yeah. So the question you answered that upset Georgia was that you didn't think that her and Harry would be together after the show. Yeah, and that was purely based on the fact that Harry at that point in time did live in Australia
Starting point is 00:47:43 and Georgia lives in Wellington. And also you're asked to answer the questions honestly, so you do have to answer someone on the fact that Harry, at that point in time, did live in Australia and Georgia lives in Wellington. And also you're asked to answer the questions, honestly, so you do have to answer someone on the show. Yeah, and I just thought that that would be what everyone else said. Yeah. Because that was what we had to do, you know, pick the majority of what everyone else thought. So they wrote nasty answers,
Starting point is 00:47:59 but then when you wrote an answer with substantial backing and thought behind it, that was a problem. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that was the issue here. Do you understand why they were so awful to you? No, and I don't think I ever will. There's no way to justify their behavior.
Starting point is 00:48:18 It was purely bullying, and that's not okay. And I don't want to sit here and be like, oh, you know, they might not have liked me because I had a weird face like that's literally just bullying so yeah there's nothing that I could have done from the minute that I walked in that would make those girls like me and that's really unfortunate but do you think because you're a disruptor they were just like look a disruptor's not gonna win yeah we're literally just gonna tear her down yeah. So they thought that I had no right to win because I came in late, but I was passed at exactly the same time as everyone else. You know, I had my profile shoots
Starting point is 00:48:51 at the same time as everyone else. I didn't know that I was coming in late, so I was coming in late to the challenge and I was like, wait, I have to put my hands in Eels? Like, what do you mean? I thought I was going on, like, Love Island. So it was, like, completely different than what I thought it would be.
Starting point is 00:49:06 But yeah, coming in late was the downfall, I think. What do you think of Georgia now? Oh, look, honestly, it's water under the bridge. I can't see myself being friends with someone who treats other people like that, and that's just my personal opinion. But I'm not going to hold any malice against her because I ain't got no time for that.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Do you still hear from her or, like, hear about her? No, sorry. Yeah, she messaged me last night just to say that the island definitely got the best of her and that, I mean, sorry, the worst of her, and that she felt really bad for what she'd said, et cetera, et cetera. That's nice. Yeah, it was really nice. But knowing that there's an ongoing group chat where they like to discuss things about me and some of the other girls.
Starting point is 00:49:51 How did you find that out? So I was hanging out with some of the people from the show on the weekend. And it was actually shown to me, all the things that they were saying about me. And I was shocked at how people could be so not. Yeah, exactly. So it's like it's spilling over into my real life. This is real life, you know. And the fact that it's kind of like being condoned,
Starting point is 00:50:09 like they're the ones still on the show and they're still competing and I'm not, you know. And I can see that it still upsets you. Oh, totally, totally. I have cried endless amounts of tears over this and it's really hurt me and it's made me doubt myself as a person and it's really scarred me. Would made me doubt myself as a person and it's really scarred me.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Would you have gone on the show knowing that now? I don't think I would have gone on the show if I had have known that I was going to be a disruptor. Right. Yeah. Man. Well, let me ask you about Josh then. Are you guys still together?
Starting point is 00:50:40 So we're not together. We're not a couple, but we still talk all the time. And we have a great friendship. It's just because, obviously, this whole thing has been a secret for so long, especially with me coming on late. They've been announced on the show like six weeks ago or something, but I'm new. So we had to kind of keep the whole thing secret.
Starting point is 00:51:01 So we couldn't really spend time with each other in public and all that sort of thing. So I have so much respect for Josh. I think he's literally the most amazing guy. He is a pure soul and he stood up for me when it was actually really, really, that was the hard thing to do. So I will always have respect for him and, you know, I'm leaving the door open.
Starting point is 00:51:19 So what about Harry then, who's George's partner, who stood up for you? Yeah, so Harry, like, got just as much bullying as I did from Georgia. She was threatening to punch him, which if it was flipped the other way and it was a guy threatening to punch a girl, we'd call the cops, right? That would be a serious problem. But because it's a girl, in our society, for some reason, that's okay. So Harry got just as much flack as me, really.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And it just proves what an amazing person he is because he's willing to like, you know, she apologised and he accepted that immediately. So given everything that we know now, you know, it was hard for you. Who do you like the most out of the girls and who do you want to win? What wasn't shown is that when this was all happening,
Starting point is 00:52:05 Ruby actually came up to me and she apologised. So she was like, I've said some really nasty things and that's not who I am as a person and I'm really sorry for you. Like, I feel really sorry and I wish that I didn't say those things. So that really proved to me, you know, because it takes the biggest person
Starting point is 00:52:21 to admit that you're wrong. It's easy to justify why you did something or be like, oh, I did this because Caitlin was mean to admit that you're wrong. It's easy to justify why you did something or be like, oh, I did this because Caitlin was mean to me or something like that. But to actually admit that you're wrong takes a massive person. So, yeah, I'm totally like behind. And the thing is, is like I'm best friends with Harry as well. So, like, I wish that Harry and Ruby somehow could win.
Starting point is 00:52:43 If that's a thing. Oh, well, I'm really sad that you're still upset about it. But, I mean, at least you got out of that situation. Oh, totally. And just ignore those girls. Yeah, it was two weeks of that. So I was kind of happy to go home at that point in time. It sucks that it was on those circumstances.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Like, I wish I had have just done really badly in the challenge or something yeah um if if i was to go home because i wasn't nasty i'm okay with that i would never stoop to that level it's just not me oh okay well thanks for joining us in studio and thank you for being so honest this uh might be right up your alley. And traditionally, I'd say more of the grandparents, older people situation. Okay. But there are studies saying that if you sleep apart, it could be really good for your relationship. I'm talking different beds, different rooms. And this is what people want.
Starting point is 00:53:43 They've done a study. Yeah. They're saying that it's a marriage saver. And in America, they're saying that this is what they're calling sleep breaks are essential to a healthy functioning relationship. Is this just for snoring partners? Because that would drive you nuts. There'd be various things. Snoring partners, that's one of them.. There'd be various things. Snoring partners,
Starting point is 00:54:05 that's one of them. Starfish. Bed hogs. Yeah. Fidgety legs. Duvet hoggers. Restless leg syndrome. Blanket hoggers.
Starting point is 00:54:12 So would you still like, go have snuggles and spooning and like pillow talk and then switch? Maybe. Because like, that's like cute time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Oh, you know what I'd have? A little walkie talkies. That'd be pretty cute. A little bedside walkie talkies. Are you asleep yet? Yeah. Oh, I was what I'd have? A little walkie-talkies. That'd be pretty cute. A little bedside walkie-talkies. Are you asleep yet? Yeah. Oh, I was. I was.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Oh, I was thinking like you. I ran out. I love you too. I just want to say I love you before I go to sleep. Okay, yep. Love you. Bye. You didn't mean that.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Oh, I did. I was asleep. You woke me up. Say it like you mean it. I love you. That's not what I mean. And you didn't say over. And you didn't say over.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Always say over. You're not maintaining proper radium protocol. Over. Over. So 46% of Americans in a relationship or married said that this sounds like a great idea. This is your dream, Caitlin.
Starting point is 00:55:10 You've said a lot that any future boyfriend slash husband is probably going to have to sleep in a spare room. Well... Or their own room. Or we'll have two beds that are on different sides of the room. So you're like, no, no. But see, to me, that doesn't solve the problem because snoring, snoring.
Starting point is 00:55:29 I'd want to be at the other end of the house. If my husband snores, he's down the other end of the house. How do you expect to find a husband when you're like, we're going to have two separate beds in the room? Well, I obviously don't tell them that on the first date. It's second date material.
Starting point is 00:55:43 The harder thing to believe is that, not that you'll find a husband, because I do believe you'll find a husband, that you're going to be able to work in Auckland and afford a house with two Ns. Yeah. But, like, once you get used to someone sleeping in your bed, I find when he's not there, I'm like, it's hard,
Starting point is 00:55:58 and then there's cold patches, and it's weird. I enjoy it for, like, short term, like one or two nights of just absolute landlording of the bed. Just legs spread everywhere right in the middle. But for long term, yeah, you miss that warmth in the bed. Yeah. I fletch.
Starting point is 00:56:17 I was waiting for it. I was waiting for it. I was literally waiting for it. In my head it was like dot, dot, dot, dot. It was like you're in a group chat and someone's typing. Yeah. And the three little dots pop up. You're like, here comes the burn.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Oh, shit, that was cute. Here it comes. I was waiting. But yeah, I'd say, if I was a snorer, I'd move myself away. But surely, like you said, this is an older person. I remember, I think my grandparents had separate beds. Because you imagine by that age, you're like done with them. You just want a good night's sleep because they snore.
Starting point is 00:56:50 But are there like younger couples that do this, that do a sleep break? Like still in a committed long-term relationship. Love each other. But just cannot be in the same bed because of whatever reason. Is there anybody listening that does that? So these are the reasons. These are the top seven reasons that you would need a sleep break. I'll start at the lowest and work the
Starting point is 00:57:09 way up to number one, even though number one's super obvious. We've talked about it. The lowest is getting their hair in your face. Oh, yeah. Andrew's always like... Yeah. I'm like, do you have to spit it out? Like, just move it. It gets in because then you breathe in. And so dramatic about it. You know when you're going to sleep, you're like
Starting point is 00:57:25 and then it'll shoot at your nose and it'll tickle right in the back and you're like I'm dying. Yeah. 22% say they're not comfortable. 23% say it's blanket hogging. Yeah. And Igor that is can't stretch out. Going to bed at
Starting point is 00:57:41 different times is a massive one. Okay. It gets too hot in bed with them and they snore. That's the number one. Those are the big reasons. Okay, so does anybody do this? 0800 dials at M, you can text 9696. Do you sleep break from your partner? And maybe it's just a couple of nights a week.
Starting point is 00:57:59 I don't know if they get sick. Just to catch up on sleep. Yeah. Or 100% if someone's a little bit sick or, you know, under the weather and they're going to be. All right, well, if you take a sleep break, if this is something you've done or you do, 0800-DONES-ATM-9696.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. We're talking sleep breaks. This is where you sleep in a different bed from your partner for whatever reason, but you're still together. Still love each other. Still love each other. Still love each other. Still together.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Committed relationship. But whether or not it's snoring. Sheet stealer. Bed hogging. Hair in the face. Whatever. These are the reasons it happens. But apparently it is a way to save relationships.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Yeah. To move to separate sleeping quarters. Producer Caitlin's our dream to be in this situation with a future husband. Separate beds in the same room. Intern Anya, shock, does this already. Yeah. We are the 80-year-old couple with single beds, baby. Now, so a few nights a week we separate.
Starting point is 00:59:01 We roll out. I love him very much. Like break up just for a couple of days a week. Break up. Sleep break. No, yeah, so we have a spare room at mum and dad's place where we are currently squatting. And, yeah, he will just go down there for a couple of nights a week
Starting point is 00:59:16 just because I obviously go to bed at like 8 o'clock with our silly work hours. And he is not tired then, which is fair enough. But does he annoy you getting back into bed? Oh, God, it drives me insane. He's like, bang, bang, bang. I'm being so quiet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Hey, do you know where I left my toothbrush? Pretty much. Is it in the bathroom next to mine? Yeah, so just for everyone's sanity, just a little break, a little holiday. So is it to catch up on sleep and just so you feel really good? Yeah, yeah, especially because our work, you know, we don't get a whole lot of time to have a huge amount of sleep.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Yeah, it's my quality. Right. Katie, about the same age as producer Anya, how old are you, 22, 23? Yeah. And you do sleep breaks. Well, so at the moment we can't afford to have that, but when we have our own place, we definitely sleep in different beds. Like, if
Starting point is 01:00:09 he ever goes away, it's just like, bliss. I sleep myself in the middle of the bed. Wait, every night? Or just occasionally, like Anya? Probably occasionally, but, you know, every night wouldn't be bad. So you've both agreed this is a great plan, separate bedrooms. Yeah, well, my parents have slept in, like, separate bedrooms for, like, 10 years
Starting point is 01:00:27 because they both snore horrifically and mum does night shift. Right. So it just makes it worth it. But do they ever, like, do some cuddles or some spoons? Yeah, do you go cuddles and then evacuate? Yeah, I guess so. I have a bathroom in the middle. That'd be great.
Starting point is 01:00:41 I can enjoy the bathroom. But what about spooning? Like, do you still spoon? No, that's just annoying because then you wake up and you can't roll over. Oh, no, no, no. Not when you're sleeping. No, just like a little pre-sleep spoon. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Oh, yeah. And then go to separate beds. But then who's got to leave the warm bed to run through the cold air and avoid the monsters to get into the other bed? You sound very clinical about this, Katie. You sound like you have an egg timer. And when the alarm goes off, spooning's over. Go to your own bed.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Yeah, sounds good to me. I bet she tucks the sheets in tight, eh? Like, I've got a feeling that bed would just be nursemaid. Grace, you have a sleep break from your partner. Yeah, so me and my husband, we've been married for five years, and we've been sleeping in separate beds for maybe six months. It's the best decision we've ever made.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Wow, and so in separate rooms? Yeah, separate rooms. Wow. You both got like queen beds? Nah, he's got a single bed. Oh, so he's a no-no-no. Does he always go to the single bed?
Starting point is 01:01:39 Yeah. What is... How did you come to that arrangement? I don't know. He kind of lost the bet, I guess. And because he's a snorer, so he gets the shit a bit. But surely you can go out and get a queen bed for him, or at least a double.
Starting point is 01:01:54 No, he just needs to stop snoring. Have you tried all the different things for the snoring? The ring and the thing up your nose and the... Yeah, like he's been to the sleep clinic and stuff like that, and there's nothing that they can do. I sleep with earplugs every night. I don't blame you now. He can have the crappy single bed, can't he?
Starting point is 01:02:14 Rebecca, you have a sleep break from your partner? I do. He snores like maybe three, four times a week. So sometimes I sneak off to this. He absolutely hates it if I leave the bed. So I sometimes just sneak off to this bare bed and then I just have to sneak back in before he wakes up. And he's none the wiser.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Sometimes he's not and then sometimes he wakes up and he's like, you left me. Oh, because he wanted a little cuddle at like four in the morning. He hates it, but I mean, I need it because I have to be on my A game and I need sleep. So you said he snores three or four times a week. Is he not a full-time snorer? He's not a full-time snorer.
Starting point is 01:02:56 It's really weird. If he's really tired or if it's really cold, if his nose is blocked, there's so many different things. Some people get drunk when they get drunk, their snores. Yeah, when they get drunk, they're snorers? They snore, yeah. Yeah, when he's drunk, that's the worst. Okay, so you're definitely in the spare room,
Starting point is 01:03:10 or he's in the spare room if you're out drinking. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Amazing, Rebecca, thanks for your call. So many texts. Lots of texts. Somebody said, sleeping in separate rooms saved my relationship.
Starting point is 01:03:20 We're in our late 30s. We've been sleeping in separate rooms for the last six years. Right. Insomnia, snoring, multiple reasons. We still spoon before we go to our separate rooms, if you know what I'm saying. Wink face. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Well, and there's spoon time on the couch as well, I guess. Yeah. Watch TV. But then do you feel like you're more flatmates? Is it a weird? You'd feel disconnected, wouldn't you? Because technically that's like a friend, isn't it? Yeah. I don't know. But it's not. It is a weird... You'd feel disconnected, wouldn't you? Because technically that's like a friend, isn't it? That you're... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:46 I don't know. But it's not. It is a weird one. But then if it works... Somebody said, we went on a sleep break when my partner was sick and he snored. So I was like,
Starting point is 01:03:54 I'm just going to have to take myself away. He's not sick anymore, but I just don't know how to tell him this is how I want to do it now. Sleep in different rooms. Because they love good sleep. It would hurt your feelings if you didn't choose that your partner was leaving. They were just like, I'm going to go sleep over there.
Starting point is 01:04:10 I want to sleep away from you. Yeah. Yeah. What did I do? I don't know. Yeah, well, okay. I grew up because my dad's parents, they always had separate beds. And my dad said when he was a kid, he remembered they had separate beds.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Same room, different beds. Right. But my mum's parents slept in the same bed. Yeah. And everybody snored. So I could never as a kid work out why, what was happening here. Right. So I don't know about later in life.
Starting point is 01:04:36 But as you say, you've got to have a room big enough for two queens. At least. At least. At least. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Today's fact of the day, I thought I might give you some FIFA World Cup fact of the day now that we're getting to the business end of the World Cup. This is about the 1950 FIFA World Cup.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Okay. This has been a rumour for a long, long time. This was recently in indiatimes.com because there's all this controversy, urban legend and rumour about why India withdrew from the 1950 FIFA World Cup in Brazil. Right. Now, the long-held rumour that I refer to is that they were told they had to play in shoes, so they pulled out.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Okay. And I'm going to tell you, that is nothing more than a rumour. Okay. But you might be thinking, that's a weird rumour. Urban legend. What's the origins of that? Well, two years before that, at the 1948 Olympics, which India, this was the first Olympics they competed at since they became an independent country. They didn't wear shoes.
Starting point is 01:05:49 They ran marathons. They did track and field. They won a hockey gold medal. In bare feet. And some of them were in bare feet. Some of them wore socks. No shoes. We're not born with shoes, are we?
Starting point is 01:06:01 No, we're not. And they did all of the, they had quite a good little Olympics too for a first independent showing as a country at the Olympics and did a lot of it barefoot. Just because, not because, and people were like, oh, they're too poor. They just preferred not to play sport in shoes. It's insane when you think back that not that long ago people would play basketball in Converse and Chucks.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Like that business wars podcast about Adidas versus Nike. Nike, Nike whatever. It's amazing how they brought in like Adidas shoes to like the running and stuff. And basketball. And previous to that they'd been running in what could be compared to
Starting point is 01:06:39 Chuck Taylor's Met golf shoes. So Chuck Taylor's on top with spikes on the bottom. So you can almost probably do better in bare feet than those shoes. I was thinking more of protection as well, because if you're playing hockey in bare feet, like that would stick and whack your foot. Oh, you'd lose a nail. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Oh, you'd lose a toe. The ball. Yeah, if you got it enough. Wow. Nothing professional could do about that. If you've got a big black toe. You walk in there, face masks on, and just shake their head. Not today, mate.
Starting point is 01:07:05 We can't help you. Actually, it's just fallen off of my hand, so that's a bit yuck. You're going to need to leave. So today's fact of the day is India did not withdraw from the 1950 World Cup
Starting point is 01:07:17 because they didn't want to wear shoes. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day, day. Okay, so this article that I read that made me feel bad, it was on Stuff. It was a follow-up. Stuff had obviously done an article. I didn't read it or see it, but they'd obviously done an article about,
Starting point is 01:07:44 what, did you read a headline and just, like, going hot with some racism? Because that seems to be a Stuff commentator. No, I didn't read it or see it, but they'd obviously done an article about did you read a headline and just like go in hot with some racism? Because that seems to be a stuff commentator. No, it wasn't. Headlines made me wild! It was an article obviously about couriers and terrible delivery service and we've all experienced it. Did they touch on
Starting point is 01:07:59 double parking on yellow lines with the indicators on? Did they touch on that? They touched on that. This is what made me feel bad. And I think we should all feel bad about this because courier drivers hit back after this article. But we've all been there. We've all had a car to call. Did they hit back and then just drive away
Starting point is 01:08:16 because you didn't see them nudge their car? Vaughan. Vaughan. Did they open their door into your door and they were just like, eh? You especially, Megan. If you haven't got your ASOS parcel or Kylie Cosmetics or a day late, you're the first to win.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Caitlin and Megan need to look at themselves. Let's not forget old bloody intern order over there who's placing an online bloody shipping order every single day. When's the last time you ordered something online? It's been a week and a half. It's only because payday is 10 days away, isn't it? Yes, it is. Didn't you just carry your laptop in before and say to Megan,
Starting point is 01:08:50 what do you think of this? Shh. Yeah, for payday. So Courier's head back after this article, and they've kind of revealed now their working conditions. And I think we should all take this into account when we're waiting for our packages. So quite often, they will start the day,
Starting point is 01:09:09 some of them are set at five o'clock, and they literally, some of them won't finish until anywhere between seven and ten at night sometimes. Oh no, stop that. I know that's the thing. And they said that they often can't stop to eat for lunch, some of them, because they've got so many packages to deliver. Why don't they take their lunch? They'll eat's the thing. And they said that they often can't stop to eat for lunch, some of them, because they've got so many packages to deliver.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Why don't they take their lunch? They'll eat on the run. But then you know the problem? What? When you think of couriers, you think of Postman Pat. And he was always having a bit of a jaunt, wasn't he? He was all like, Postman Pat. He was never like, oh, fff, crying out loud. Why won't someone pay me?
Starting point is 01:09:43 I'm not getting a decent meal and postman pack. 200 kilometres a day wasn't uncommon. I'm not really sure how much it is. A lot of them are contractors so they don't get like they're self-employed so they don't get the four weeks holiday that we're all entitled
Starting point is 01:10:00 to by the way. But that comes with being self-employed. You're your own boss. It does, yes. But they've said it is pretty full on. But wait, go back to the lunch. I said you can pick your lunch and you were going to rebut that. Well, they don't have time to stop the car and park up and sit in the park and eat lunch. No, you just eat it while you're going around. That's not a nice...
Starting point is 01:10:19 You get, by law, breaks. Only if she was self-employed, she wouldn't. She'd have to do it on her own time. I'm just saying we need to take all this into account. Quite often, if they want to be on time and get everything delivered, they'll have to risk double parking. Illegally parking. So they're risking tickets. So they've just
Starting point is 01:10:38 hit back and this article just kind of sums up. People don't give couriers tickets, do they? It's like, oh, okay, they're indicating. No, they do, they do. Oh, well, that's not me. I didn't do it. You didn't give the ticket. If I was a parking lady,
Starting point is 01:10:49 I wouldn't give them a ticket. But this is, it's quite a big article and it just does go through everything. And, you know, a lot of them have said it's slave-like. But why isn't my parcel here? Megan, I'm saying this is why you need to read this and have a bit of understanding. No, I'd be like, okay, I feel sorry for you.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Everyone could write a column bitching about their job. I mean, we couldn't. We could. We'd seem really like our problems were minuscule. We had to talk so much after an Ed Sheeran song today. No, the other day it was so hot in here. It was hot. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:11:20 It was like being in a courier van on a summer day and not being able to wind the window down. Oh, my God, I feel ruined. But at the moment with teachers and nurses, I hear their complaints and I'm next level. No, I would never worry about that. And I'm just being silly. Like, I love it when my passes are delivered on time.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Well, next time you get a pass, it's going to have a finger poke hole in it. It is. I loved my old courier. Oh, he was so nice. Same. Because he's gone. Because, Vaughan, how are you?
Starting point is 01:11:41 I'd be like, I'm very well, thank you. He's like, when are you going to be back on seven days? I'd be like, probably never legally. They don't want me back. And he'd ask every time whether he's forgetful or if he was just trying to encourage me to get back out there. I'm not quite sure. That company don't want you back, Vaughan.
Starting point is 01:11:57 No, I know that. That's quite clear. They've made that abundantly clear. FEM. ZM. We always talk about names and how, you know, you wouldn't name a baby Bruce and... Kevin.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Keith. Okay, we've got a few of those. Yeah, but there's been a study that has looked into names and how they impact you and how you're perceived. So the study has found that you could be judged as soon as someone hears your name. But for anyone hearing this now with maybe a name they don't like or a slightly unusual
Starting point is 01:12:25 name, it's not your fault, is it? No, it's your parents' fault. Blame them for everything. But you could know two people with the same name that are completely different. One you might hate and one you might really like. But you're judged on competence, age and personality straight away because
Starting point is 01:12:41 of your name. Okay. Now, a list of these have been released of, they call them warm and competent names. So immediately you warm to them and you think this is a competent person. Okay. And then on the other side of the scale, names of low warmth and competence. So you don't like them and you think they're useless. Okay. Which would you like first?
Starting point is 01:13:03 Oh, actually, one of us is on the warm and competent. Who? Hit the warm and competent. Who is? Oh, two of us. Damn it. It's not me. And it's certainly not me because much like cones, combs or anything, cups, cones, key rings. Yep, your name's never on anything.
Starting point is 01:13:20 So just at a glance, the warm and competent names are kind of like traditional, strong names. Right. Okay, so I'll hit you. Anne. Anna, which is Anya's real name. Anna is warm and competent.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Anna. Well, not when you say it like that. Yeah, see? Exactly. Crikey. You're not going to introduce yourself and be like, my name is Anna. That's generally how I do it, yeah. Because I'm Anna.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Don't speak about my friend like that. I think Anya is better. Yeah, Anya, yeah. She loves it. Can't you tell she loves being called Anya? She hates it. Carolyn, Daniel, David, Elizabeth, Emily, Emma. So they're all, you know, quite traditional.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Yeah, standard names. Grace, James. Oh, James. Emily, Emma. So they're all, you know, quite traditional. Yeah, standard names. Grace, James. Oh, James. Oh, classy. I'm on everything. Warm and competent. Very popular. He's very warm and competent.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Weren't you also a train on Thomas the Tank Engine? Yep. One of them. I just wanted there to be a cute little one called Vaughan. Tug, tub, tub in there one day. Vaughan and tub, tub. No, not Vaughan. That's the noise he makes. Tub, tub, tub, tub, tub in there one day. Vaughan and tub, tub. No, not Vaughan. That's the noisy mix.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Tub, tub, tub, tub, tub. He's like a cute little train. Oh, right. What's your sister's name? Michelle. Yeah, she's on there too. She's warm and competent. Jonathan, Julie, Kathleen,
Starting point is 01:14:35 Madeline, Mark, Matthew, Sophia, Stephen, Susan, Thomas, William, Paul, Rachel, Olivia, Noah. Very traditional strong names. Can I say boring names? I was trying not to say that. No offence.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Jokes and anecdotes. No offence to the thousands of people that have just been insulted. You'll give yourself nicknames because your name's boring. Okay, ten people that were listening with those names. Vaughan apologises. So, low wolf and competence. So, you don't like them in the useless pretty much. Straight away, if your name is Alvin, Brent.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Well, Alvin and the chipmunks. Don't drag him into this. He was a very competent leader of a band of humanised chipmunks. Bryce, Cheyenne, Colby, Crystal, Dana, Daryl. Strippers and bogans of all you've given me so far on this list Devin
Starting point is 01:15:28 Dominic Dominique Dwayne Erin Larry Leslie Lonnie Malachi
Starting point is 01:15:33 I'll stop you now and continue with my bogans and strippers rundown Malachi I think it's spelled the same as Malachi yeah
Starting point is 01:15:41 Marsha Marco Mercedes Omar Regina Rex Roy Tracy Trenton Vicky and Whitney Malkai Fikatoa Yeah Marsha Marco Mercedes Omar Regina Rex Roy Tracy
Starting point is 01:15:46 Trenton Vicky and Whitney Caitlin's sister Whitney Yeah That makes sense Kind of a little bit
Starting point is 01:15:53 You'd tend to say Bogany Yeah But that's the thing It does Lots of studies have shown that names affect
Starting point is 01:15:59 how you perceive people And if you think of the kids you're at school with like Corey's would bad Not met a good one No Or anybody here know a nice Corey Yeah How you perceive people. Who do you think of the kids you're at school with? Like, Corey's would... Bad. Not met a good one. No.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Will anybody here know a nice Corey? Yeah, we've got a friend called Corey. We know one nice Corey, but apart from that, I think we should call him another name because I don't like the name Corey. That's his name, Caitlin. I know, he's so lovely. And Brad's are like players. What about Ree?
Starting point is 01:16:21 What about Ree for Corey? Ree Ree. No, that's dumb. That's like Rihanna. Yeah, I know. Okay. Done. That's weird.
Starting point is 01:16:29 What's Corey's middle name? If he's a nice guy, I can't have him walking around with the name Corey. I don't know. Core. Core Core. Core Core. Coco. I'm just going to call him Babe because he's real hot.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Or just call him Babes. Babes. Like I do when I forget people's names. Hot core. Hot to the core. Molten core. And you're not going to judge someone called core? Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:55 We're back to square one, aren't we? We need to find out his middle name. He might be better to trade by his middle name. ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Megan. The podcast for more. Check out FBMZM on Facebook. Trade by his middle name.

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