ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - June 13 2019

Episode Date: June 12, 2019

Megan has to say goodbye to her car, Am I A Bad Person and Producer Caitlin had an embarrassing gym situation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

ZM. Hit music. Lives here. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. Thanks, Ash. Good morning. Welcome to the show. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Good morning. Concerning to know that we're ingesting microplastics up to the size of a credit card every day. I would really like if you ingested them as microplastics but pooped them out as a credit card. Right, that you could use? You'd be like, here comes my credit card.

That much plastic. I think I'd rather have it as like a Bic pen. Would that be the same amount of plastic? That would be easier to poop out. Or maybe a slinky. Imagine pooping out minutes to your slinky. Just

and then your slinky would get all coiled up, you know, your slinky would get a bend in it. Maybe the end of the slinky. Where are we even getting them from? Fish. Like microbeads

and like, oh, from fish, what? Just eating things with microplastics. What, because fish like nibble on plastic bags in the ocean and then we eat the fish.

We eat them. What, and the plastic's like in their flesh? Yeah, microplastics. Are you making that up? No, it's teeny tiny. No. The plastics are super, super tiny.

I thought they were just talking about like if you use exfoliator and there's microbeads in it. And you're like, nope, something goes in your mouth. Nope. It's ingesting plastic. Oh, God. Or like, you know, when you eat luncheon and there's a little bit of like plastic on the luncheon. No, all of that's plastic. When does that even come from?

Well, yeah, that's true. If you're eating enough luncheon, though, you can kind of get a bit of plastic and not really notice. Yeah. It's all about ratios, isn't it? All right, you lot, listen up. It's story time. All right, I've found three news headlines.

Unusual, quirky, interesting news stories. Vaughan and Megan deliberate and pick one. Headline one, my mall will go on. Headline two, a billion to one chances. And headline three, 12-year-old chauffeur causes crash. Those are the stories to pick from today. 12-year-old chauffeur causes crash. Those are the stories to pick from today. 12-year-old chauffeur causes crash.

Yes. Kind of self-explained, right? That's someone's driving. Yep. 12-year-old driving. Headline two is a billion to one chance. And headline three,

my mall will go on. My mall will go on, I like, because that's the, my heart will go on. Oh, it is like that song. Yeah, that's true. Is that Titanic?

So they're on in the Titanic theme song? Yeah. Did they drop a necklace from the top level of the mall? My mall will go on. Well, would you like me to, would you like to delve into that story then? You sound somewhat tantalised. I'm tantalised. Is that the right word?

I'm titivated. You're, um. Titilated. Oh, titilated. I'm titivated. I'm titivated. You're somewhat intrigued. Okay. My tit's evaded.

That means they're on board. Pat, to go to... The billion to one, was that giraffe? Yes. I'm glad you didn't pick that story, but it sounds like we're going there anyway. What was that? Giraffe.

It was two giraffes, giraffes, giraffes? Is that the giraffes? You know when someone's got an F on it and you pluralise it with a V? Yeah. Giraffes were killed by a billion to one lightning strike. Both of them. Safari theme park.

Oh, no. Yeah, it's because they're real tall. Like their necks are like the sticky things. And they were playing golf. And one was wearing a watch. They always say you shouldn't do that in a thunderstorm. Yeah. Oh, that's sad.

That's really sad. All right. Now we go to Mexico now where a mall, light on details because this is just a 9Gag video, but what looks like it's going on is a mall has been flooded. Now, I don't know if this is by some pipes issue. Yeah. And let me just refresh this.

Now, the mall is flooding. It's a multi-storey mall. It looks like four or five storeys. There is water absolutely everywhere. So I'm imagining a water tower has burst on the top maybe or some pipes have burst. But in the food court area, there is a band playing. And they took this opportunity while the mall is flooding

and water is coming down from the floors above to play My Heart Will Go On. Oh, that's brilliant. This is a clarinet? Yeah. It sounds like a breath-based instrument, doesn't it? Yeah. Is that woodwind or a clarinet or an oboe or something like that?

So, yeah, but people standing around. So the mall's not evacuating, but it's just kind of, yeah, water coming from all over. You can see I'm showing Megan now. Water all over the floors. It's coming down. Oh, okay. There's a waterfall there. Yeah.

Where it's not supposed to be. No. Happened in New Zealand. Oh, look, I found it. Somebody on Instagram. Yeah. Somebody that was stuck in Thailand at the same time as me at the start of the year. Yeah.

And Kiwis were all connecting. Why were you stuck in Thailand? Oh, because of the hurricane. Yeah, right. We were having to get off the island. Look at this. Look at this video. No good for anybody at home.

But look, they open this door and water runs down the stairs. Oh, wow. That's a lot of water. It's almost like a cartoon. Like they've opened it and the stairs have turned into a waterfall. I said, what happened there? And apparently something set off the fire sprinkler, but the alarm didn't go. And so the shop was just filling up with water all night.

And then when someone came and opened the door, the water all ran down the stairs. There was like a little bit of water getting under the door. But when they opened it, obviously the amount that was flowing in was significantly more than was getting under the door. I wish I'd been there. I love water where it shouldn't be. As long as it's not high. Like, my dream would be to come to work one day in the basement at work completely full of water. And then you can get your kayak out and just kayak around.

Scuba gear. Yeah, scuba gear. Like, a flashlight and you go down there and then there's an alligator and you're like, it's on. Me versus you. Me versus millions of years of evolution. I'm dead now. Well, I tried my best. I did what I could.

But no, imagine coming to work and the basement was full of water. Yeah. That'd be something to see. That'd be pretty cool. I mean, sad for everybody who lost a car or whatever, but. For sure. Pretty cool. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.

You know how they always say They're calling it a sex recession For millennials And there's been many stories That have come out and said that millennials Are just doing it less Because what, they're antisocial Staying at home, Netflixing

Options, got options All the explanations we're hearing There has been a new study That has been done by Cosmopolitan. Now, it's because they are millennials that produced that magazine and they were like, this doesn't seem reflective of our actual lives. So they did a study themselves and they have realised they're not actually, millennials are not actually having less, but the quality of which they're having is much better than previous generations.

Really? So, yes. 18 to 34-year-olds, 71% say they're personally satisfied with the amount that they're having. It then breaks down into what kind. Looking for Jessica Caitlin's all grinning. I've got a boyfriend now. So 20% have delved into. What about the millennials you're having sex with, Fletch?

Are they having a good time? Oh, that's really, that's a very brave comment. I don't know. We're in an open, safe place. I mean, I hope they're having a great time. Well, that's all we can ask for, isn't it? How's your TripAdvisor rating? You yelp.

Some of them actually do yelp. That is like some Black Mirror stuff, eh? Yeah. Imagine like you wake up in the morning and you've got like a 2 out of 5. Imagine if they added that to like Tinder. Oh my god. And then like you got suspended from having like any kind of sex or meetings because you're terrible.

That's some real Black Mirror stuff. It's like a real hot guy but he's got a two star. You're like, oh, okay, well that explains. Other people would love that

because girls love a fixer upper. It's like evened it out. Like a bad boy and they're like, I'm going to fix him. It explains too. So 20% have tried

BDSM. Oh my God. 44% have used sex to over the partner. How many percent of the bit is it? 20. That's one in five. Oh, kinky. 9% have had group participation.

Okay. And 49% have had, oh, maybe I'll just leave that one out. There's a few in there that I'll just leave out. Right, okay. But 92% were more concerned with quality over quantity. You can say that thing you were. No, I'm trying to do charades of four in there.

Yeah. Rough. Rough, rough. Yeah. Rough. Rough. Rough. Yeah. 44. No, what was that? 49%. So almost half.

Yeah. Interesting. Caitlin, how do you find these new findings? Great. For me, because I have a boyfriend now. But also, because I have a boyfriend now, I get tired all the time time so I don't want to do it. That didn't take long.

We're very comfortable. Honeymoon period is over. I think that's like on the money, wouldn't you say? Probably. Maybe. So they've gone on to say that they are

exploratory. Yeah. They're less defined by stigmas and taboos and yeah, they value quality over quantity. Okay, right. Quality over quantity. Yeah. Well, everyone

here is either a millennial or sleeping with millennials, so how does everyone feel about that? Probably more of a baby boomer with my routine. What does that mean? No, aren't they quiet? They're getting into it now. Oh, you hear about these rest homes?

Yeah. Just the absolute. Yeah, but that's like. They're like a beachcomber island. It's just like a lot of missionary. And love. Well, the decaying bone quality doesn't exactly lead to a lot of BDSM. You smack a barrel and you break it.

And you bruise very easily when you're old. That's true. Have you been choking people again, Fred? That's true. Three women watching EastEnders with bruising that said that you've old. That's true. Have you been choking people again, Fred? That's true. Three women watching EastEnders with bruising that said that you've been having rough sex with them. Sorry about that. Oh, God.

What's a, maybe more of a Gen X. Just, yeah, right. Just not doing it. Embarrassed about it. Oh, yeah. Don't talk about it, no. From the ZM Think Tank this is the top six.

Tomato Edchup is what it's been called. Ed Sheeran publicly loves Heinz tomato ketchup so much that I don't even know if he's really getting paid that much money. You said last week it was $300,000

I think from memory. Right. Pounds, pounds. But he's writing a song for an ad and he's doing everything. He's got to be getting a cut. A percentage as well. Because like,

that, to get someone of his celebrity stature... But he went to them. Yeah. Well, he's got a tattoo. Yeah, of Heinz Ketchup.

He was probably already getting free sauce. Yeah. But he's teamed up with them. He's got a tattoo. Yeah, of Heinz ketchup. He was probably already getting free sauce. Yeah. But he's teamed up with them. He's shared a photo of himself kissing a Heinz tomato sauce bottle with tomato ketchup written on it. So the top six other celebrities that could team up with condiments is today's top six.

A chance to make a little extra money. Number six, Sriracha Jessica Parker. Sarah Jessica Parker been pretty quiet lately. Yeah. I couldn't actually even name the last thing she was in. Sex in the City. Nah, she's done something since then. Has she?

I don't know. No, the latest Sex in the City movie. Yeah, two. Was there a Sex in the City three? No, because I think they argued, didn't they? Sarah Jessica Parker. IMDB.com. Arrange filmography by date.

Divorce. She was in a TV series called Divorce. That's had three seasons. Oh, really? She's good to know she's got a regular income. Yeah, she's looking out for her. How good's Sriracha Salsa? It is a great source. So Sriracha sauce, though? Oh. It is a great sauce.

So Sriracha, Jessica Parker, number six. Number five on the list of the top six other celebrities that could team up with condiments are Seth Rogen, Josh Sauce. So if you were making a Rogen Josh, you could just use Seth Rogen's brand, Rogen Josh. Right. What would you use that sauce on? Rogen Josh. Yeah, okay. Yeah, like Patax could enlist Seth Rogen. Yeah. Rogen Josh. Right. What would you use that sauce on? Rogen Josh. Yeah, okay.

Yeah, like Pat-Ax could enlist Seth Rogen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Pat-Ax. They could get it on board, anybody who. Pat-Ax. Is Pat-Ax still a thing? Yeah. Like, thanks, Pat-Ax. Yeah.

They don't advertise anymore because they wrote such a catchy jingle they don't need to. Stuck in your head. Yeah. Man, that is a blast from the past. You know what else is a blast from the past? What? I feel like chicken tonight. Like chicken tonight. Isn't that is a blast from the past. You know what else is a blast from the past? What? I feel like chicken tonight. Like chicken tonight.

Isn't that still a thing too? Yeah, chicken tonight. And they've got like mince tonight and sausage tonight. Oh, really? Yeah, they've got a range of jars. Right. That you just pour into a pot and then chuck whatever sloppy mince you want in there and away you go. Number four on the list of the top six other celebrities that could team up with condiments.

He just became hip-hop's first billionaire Yep Jay Soysauce Right Everybody uses Soysauce Soysauce is a very popular condiment with Asian food Yeah In particular so it could really make some money there I thought you were going to go like Jay Zatziki

No I can't say that word so I wasn't going to throw myself under the bus on that one. Jay Zitzeke. Jay Zoe Sauce. Coming to a shelf near you. Okay. Number three on the list of the top six other celebrities that could team up with condiments after Ed Sheeran's released Ed Shop.

Katy Perry Perry Seasonings. Oh, that's a sitter. Yeah, absolute sitter. Absolute sitter. In fact, why haven't Nando's approached her? I don't know. Yeah, absolute sitter. Absolute sitter. In fact, why haven't Nando's approached her? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Do it.

Surely she'd do it for some money. Yeah, and they could just spell these sauce P-E-R-R-Y. Just a little bit. Peri-peri. Yeah. Peri-peri seasoning. So you can get a cut because they sell that at the supermarket, don't they? Yeah, it's yum too.

Yeah, it's yum. It's all good stuff. Number two on the list of the top six other celebrities that could team up with condiments. If you're having some fish, you might want to use Tartalia Swift Sauce. Tartalia. Tartalia. When I wrote it down, I was like, that'll make sense. Tartar.

Tartar Sauce. Tartier. Tartelia. Tartier Law Sauce. Swift. Tartier Law Swift Sauce. Tartier Law Swift. Tartier Law Swift sauce. Tartier Law Swift sauce. Tartier Law Swift sauce. Yeah. Yeah, there you go.

Yeah, it'll liven up. Great on fish. It'll liven up many fish. Yeah. And today's number one in the top six other celebrities that could team up with condiments. Wasabayonce is adding a little bit of Queen Bee to your sushi. Right. Yeah. Wasabayonce is adding a little bit of Queen Bee to your sushi. Right.

Yeah. Wasabayonce is today's number one on the top six other celebrities that could team up with condiments. ZM's Fletch Warner Megan, the podcast. So a woman in New Plymouth has done some renovations on a house that she's just purchased and it's got a high ceiling. So she was in the house next door, I read. Yeah.

And she knew that because they were the house of the same period and stuff, she's like, oh, yeah, there's definitely hidden ceilings in there. They've such high roofs, they've put a secondary ceiling in. Yep. Now that's exciting stuff. She ripped that down. Lovely, like, yeah, wooden ceilings. And then ripped the jib off the wall.

Yeah. And it has revealed a teenager's bedroom from the 1960s. Whoa. It's covered in posters. The 1960s, where insulation was worse than it is now. Yeah, it was posters. Because that would have been a very cold room in July in New Plymouth, wouldn't it?

And, like, it's a huge huge room and it is basically all four walls and a lot of the ceiling covered in coloured posters of musicians, celebrities of the time, the Beatles. There's lots of Beatles. Yeah, lots of the Fab Four. So they didn't even bother to take down the posters or anything when they did the Reno, just... Nah, just put the jib over it.

You'd be amazed how people will just jib over. They'll just put it over anything. Well, if it's going to save you time ripping down all these. They might have even been glued on, like wallpaper glued on. Right. Do they have glue sticks in the 1960s? I don't know. Probably had those little pottles that you had at school.

Yeah, with a brush in it. Yeah, or PVA or something. Yeah, they would have had something. Actually, that's a good ad for the glue. Yeah, it stood the test of time. Yeah, it certainly stood the test of time. Well, yeah, they've have been something. Actually, that's a good ad for the glue. Yeah. It stood the test of time. Yeah, it certainly stood the test of time. Well, yeah, they've been around 55 years. But I guess because they were covered with jib.

But that room's also got a window in it. I think they've put that in. Oh, they've put the window in. I think so. Does it look like a new window? Yeah, or it went through, didn't it? I was going to say, that's weird that there'd just be a window, but no one ever thought what's behind that window.

Although that might have been, I think the jib, the ceiling was covered and the jib, Although that might have been, I think the jib, the ceiling was covered and the jib, so that might have actually been a used room. Oh, right, okay, but they just jibbed straight over the posters. Right, so they pulled down the jib and found all the posters. I mean, could you imagine

if your parents had just covered up, done some renos and covered your posters? Yeah, the Spice Girls. Oh, that would have been on my brother's half of the room. Yeah, he was quite Spice Girls heavy. But he also had the window on his side of the room, so he had less real estate there for posters. But he went up onto the ceiling.

Right. Which, looking back, not great, because we had that asbestos-y, flaky ceiling, and so all that would fall. And pins don't really hold well into that. Yeah. So then the night, the bottom two pins would fall out and just rain snowy asbestos all over us. And a couple into that. Yeah. So then the night, the bottom two pins would fall out and just rain snowy asbestos all over us.

And a couple of pins. Yeah. But he had spy skills. I had a range of stuff. I had some cars that I liked. Very Hamilton. Very mask. Yeah, very mask.

Very mask. Like a 1992 Dodge Viper. I'd still love one. Yeah, right. It was like the first car I ever really thought, like, that's a cool-looking car. Yeah. So I got some posters back.

Green Day, I was pretty into Green Day. Oh, yeah, okay. Had some Green Day posters. Cool, dude. Yeah, cool, man. You would have had a lot of Hanson. I had some 90s honeys on my wall. Who's 90s honeys?

Carmen Electra. Oh, yeah. Dad was like, she's my favourite. I remember dad saying that at one stage didn't have a Pamela Anderson I wasn't allowed anything too like it was quite a

it was like a nice photo tasteful tasteful yeah Carmen Electra my mum wouldn't have let me put anything

like a bikini shot up oh she put well it depends what the like you could be wearing a bikini and look quite like conservative for you and your arms crossed

but you wouldn't want to be, like, spread on the bonnet of a 1992 Dodge Viper, for example. No. Did your brother go to the Spice Girls? No, I was really disappointed. I said, are you going to go to the Spice Girls? And he's like, nah. Like, not even a thought.

Are you kidding me? They were the biggest thing in his life for so many years. We had the opportunity to. But maybe has he moved on or does he still actually like them? I don't know. Like, do you ever really move on? Nah. It's always in the back of your mind.

I think you do. You'd go. I think you do. Like, they don't do shows very often. No. Who did you have on your walls, Fletch? I can't remember. I definitely had a couple of cricket posters.

Yeah. Did you? Where did you get cricket posters from back in the day? I can't even remember. I can't even remember. I think maybe. Who did, what cricket players

did you have up there? Oh God, I can't even remember. Some 90s classics? There'd definitely be some 90s classics. Chris Pringle. Chris Cairns,

pre, you know. Whoops. Who else was in the 90s? Ken Rutherford. Yeah, yeah. Marty Crow. Oh yeah. The Dream Team. Yeah. Yep, yep. Marty Crow. Oh, yeah. The Dream Team.

Yeah, absolute Dream Team. Jeff Crow. I don't know any of these people. Vintage. Vintage. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan. The Podcast. ZM.

Just downloading the app. There's an app. For Field Days? There's a Field Days app. Field Days today. Fielddays.co.nz. You can put your ticket on the app. We're going to get Caitlin to print off our...

Have you printed the tickets yet, Caitlin? Why don't you print your own tickets? My dot doesn't work. I was just about to click print. Don't worry. I'll print mine. Wait. Caitlin, don't print their tickets until they say please.

I did say please. And then it will automatically go on your phone. In the email, I did it XOXO. They said please and yeah, Fletch gave me lots of kisses. It was gross. Navigate. Navigate to find.

We can use this as a map. Download the app, Fletch. We're going to need the app because we're hitting the field days. We are today and Vaughan, your goats and coats. Yeah, guys,

the swan dry goats and coats is going to go off. I'm just doing a really limited run at first once those fly out the door, that sort of creates a vacuum of unprecedented demand.

And that'll just make people go crazy for it. So you're going to have a little stand? Yep. Okay. Printed out some pictures yesterday. Cut around them, glued them on some cardboard. Did you print out the picture of Harold struggling to fit his one? That was every photo, actually.

I kept looking for a photo that he wasn't. It's early days. You can make XL goat. Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely. You just need a bigger size. Depending on orders. Bigger goats and coats. But, you know, we're also just going to be going,

I'm looking here where you can eat, because I know someone, I won't say names, Megan, but somebody gets a little bit, a handful when they haven't eaten, don't they? Yeah, a little bit hangry. Yeah, he does. And also, as a treat, if you behave yourself,

I'll take you and show you those really cute sheep. You know those ones that everyone is going crazy about? And one of them's pregnant. They're really cute sheep. Apparently you can buy one. This is bananas, but you can buy one of those super cute sheep for $8,000. sheep. Apparently you can buy one. This is bananas, but you can buy one of those super cute sheep for $8,000 and it's

a ewe and she's in lamb with twins. So you're going to have three, but then you can't breed them. So then you've got three. You're getting three sheep for $8,000. That's a lot of money. I'm dividing that by pack and save mints packs. Yeah, well no, I don't think you would need them. That's a very expensive shank.

Yeah, super. Very expensive shank. Yeah. Super. It really is. It's a very expensive shank on that situation. So, yeah, straight after the show today, we're even borrowing another radio station's ute, which is great because you can rip the fingers when you're in another station's car. Yeah.

I mean, you do anyway in the ZM cars. There's no responsibility. Yeah, I always just forget you're in a car with stickers on it of where you work. That's my problem there. When you're driving like a maniac. All right, well, if you're at Field Days today, head up the stand, which will only be popping up for an hour or two.

That's what it is. It's a pop-up. It's a real, it keeps people, you know, keen, doesn't it? Oh, doesn't it though? And then we've got to go around all the spots with the bands and try to win the ute because you can win a ute. How long are we going to be there for? I am not going to pry you away from this place, am I?

Nope. I'll just disappear. You'll be like, come on, let's go. Oh, God, where's he gone? Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast. ZM. The New Zealand Blood Service has set itself a goal. It wants your blood, vampire.

But it's not the blood that the goal is about. This is about plasma. They are looking to get 55,000 new donors for plasma. Apparently an increased demand for plasma. We'll just trade in our TVs and get new LEDs. You know, plasma TVs. Yeah, that's good for you. But what's the difference?

Is it the same as giving blood? Plasma? It's a different process. And for more on this, we cross to senior correspondent of Plasma Donations and regular plasma donator, producer James, who's just a dark horse of all the best things. You are a dark horse, James.

You know, you just come out with these things and we're like, we had no idea. I love this about James that he doesn't like, because if this was either of you two, every two seconds you'd be like, we're regular donors of plasma. But we didn't even know. He just does it on the DL.

I don't like to go on about my charity much like James. So how's it different giving plasma? So they don't actually take, well, they take the blood out of you, but they put it back into you, which sounds kind of weird. What are they getting out of it? So they take the white blood cells, which is the plasma, out of your blood and basically pump the blood back into you.

But what do they fill? Do they fill up the remainder with like Ribena or something? I think it just goes back into you. And then instead of like there being a bag next to your blood, it's like a bag of like, it's like a yellow liquid That's actually making me queasy I was about to say, I feel queasy just thinking about it. Is it two needles?

No, just one needle. Just the one So it sucks it all out, turns it around and then pumps it back in the same needle Yeah, yeah, pumps it straight back in the same needle and it's I don't know why they don't get you to get onto it straight away. I think they need to make sure you have a healthy body weight and stuff like that. Right.

But it's every three weeks. It's not every three months, like blood. Because you don't need to – I'm guessing it's not as hard on your body. If you give blood, your body's going to recreate that blood to build stocks back up. Yeah, like you know how normally when you give blood, you have to sit and wait there and wait there for like I don't know, like 30 minutes or something like that. I just pass out and have a sleep.

Yeah, you just go to sleep. They just send you on your way as soon as you're finished. They're like, see you later. Do you get a bicky? You can just go. Of course, yeah, you get a bicky. Or they do cheese and crackers now. Do they? They do cheese and crackers later. So how long does it take if people are thinking of doing this? So normal blood, which normally takes about 20 minutes.

Plasma can take up to an hour, but it all depends on the person. You can be a lot quicker than anyone else. It depends on how good your veins are. They need to change their rules because I'm not allowed to give blood because of my prison tattoos. I'm off the list. I said when you were going to prison, I said make sure you don't get any tattoos because you won't be able to give blood. I won't be able to give blood. Can they strap me in? Because I will

straight up pass out. But they can just knock me out and take what they want for an hour. Well, it depends on where you go, but they have some lovely recliners that you can just sit back on and watch TV. You passed out in that recliner Vaughan, when you gave blood. Yeah, but that was just at work. Yeah. I end up on the floor when I do

a blood test, so I just don't like... I want to. Yeah, I mean, it's only a little bit longer than blood, but the thing is that you can do it every three weeks compared to three months, so... Now, geographically, you can't just roll into when they're doing a blood donation in your area. What, you can't just fill up an they're doing a blood donation in your area.

What, you can't just fill up an empty milk bottle and give it to them? No, that's frowned upon. Hamilton, Auckland, Tauranga, Palmerston North, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin are the places where you can give plasma. Okay, well, if you're up to that and it doesn't make you feel queasy, help out some fellow people. Even if it makes you feel queasy. I want to do it because then you get the text to say that your blood has helped someone.

You do, you get a little notification if you've got the app. That's so cool. Producer Caitlin, an embarrassing moment for you at the gym yesterday. First off, kudos for going to the gym. Well done. Good on you. Oh thanks, I'm not just telling you the story to say that I went to the gym. Also, now that on you. Oh, thanks. I'm not just telling you the story to say that I went to the gym.

Also, now that you have a boyfriend, why do you have a trainer? What? Because I thought the only reason you got hot trainers is because you

like them every time. No, Bip. I'm friends with my trainer now. Right. I don't find my trainer hot, we're friends. Is this the one that you thought

was funny? That's a bit rude. They're a trainer. You can find them attractive without Bip. He is an attractive man, yes. But I don't find my trainer hot with friends. Is this the one that you thought was funny? That's a bit rude. You can find them attractive without being. He is an attractive man, yes. But we're like brother and sister now. Dodgy and running a line there saying that. No, we're like brother and sister. Does he do that thing where he's like,

Serzei and Jamie? Who? Like which brother and sister? Game of Thrones. Oh, Serzei and Jamie. I thought you said Susan. I was like, I don't know no Susans. Susan and Jamie.

Does he do that thing where he puts a couple of fingers on the back and he's like, you just lower that a bit more? He doesn't touch me. I tell him about my moon cup and stuff. So he's like brother and sister. You're educated. Yeah. So yeah, I was at the gym and we were doing these like,

I don't know what you call them, but you're, like, on a machine and you lift your body up so it's, like, getting in behind your arms. It's a pull-up. A pull-up. Oh, no, that sounds like the arm, like a dip. It's an assisted pull-up. It's a dip. Are you doing a dip?

No, that's a dip. I was doing both of those. I was doing a dip and a pull-up. Oh, there's one machine for both of those? Yeah, yeah, there is, yeah. Yeah, so I was doing them and it was really hard and I was struggling and, like, grunting away and that and it was really hard and I was struggling and like grunting away and sweating and it was really hard. And then I stepped back off the machine and I turned around and there was this little man sitting in a chair behind me doing something.

Like, I don't know what he's doing, some leg thing. But he was like, I think he was like, and I was like, thank you so much I was like that's really nice because he had obviously seen that I was really striking that's the sort of

encouragement you needed yeah and I was like oh and I looked at Dan my trainer and he looked at me

like with really like wide eyes like you've done something here and I was like oh god what's happened so then I went

and I had to go do burpees and then we moved on. But he was still clapping. And I was like, hang on a minute. So I looked at my trainer and then we sort of went off to another area. And he was like, yeah, he's just warming his hands up. Like just getting the blood circulating.

Right, okay, yeah, right. Oh, my God. And so because then. What was he doing? Look, that's over the top. What was he doing? Did he have a bit of chalk on him? I thought he was clapping But he had sore thumbs or something

So it was like You know how It's in between your thumb and your forefinger So that's not a clap So he's literally warming up But he was smiling at me So so I thought he was clapping. So you turn around and there's a little guy smiling at you because you said little guy, not my words, your words.

Oh, sorry. Little man. He was a bit older is what I was saying. He was really cute. And he was got, but I thought he was clapping for me because I was doing so well with my gym stuff. If I was your trainer, I would have just let you have that. Yeah, same.

Be like, yeah, he's definitely clapping for you. He moved me away from the area because he thought I'd embarrass myself again. So he does know you well. He does. He does. What did he end up doing? The guy warming up his legs. No, I thought he was doing this, but he was pushing.

I don't know this. I think the warm-up was over the, but he was pushing chest press. I think the warm-up was over the top. I speak fluent, Caitlin. He was absolutely over the top. What a great podcast so far, wouldn't you agree, Fletch? Yes. And it's all thanks to Spark. Get one gig of bonus data with the Spark U25 pack.

Now, back to the podcast. Oh, no. Okay, I've just found out this influencer might be a New Zealander. Uh-oh. This influencer I'm about to tell you about. Really? Well, their username is, ah, where'd it go? Wait a minute, I'll find it again.

Are you just learning to use the internet? Shut it down. Yeah, Dad's just panicking a bit, kids. Just chill out, we'll get there. What have I pushed? On Instagram, go to Instagram.com. You guys do this and I'll tell you the story. Instagram.com slash.

Are you about to read out there? Yeah. NZ. Oh, God. NIC. NIK, rather. NIK. Okay.

Tell me, is that a New Zealander? No. Well, it's in Russian. It's in Russian. It's in Russian. Okay, that's all right then. You're just saying the NZ. I saw NZ and assumed that could be the initials.

That could be like the start of a family name. Yeah, right. Okay, great. I think she's Russian by the looks of it. Oh, wow. Okay. Those are inappropriate, aren't they? Have you seen the Chernobyl photos?

Yeah. So this is what we're talking about recently since the TV show and just the word that the TV show was going to be happening. And we've talked about this. Tourism agencies have seen massive growth in people that want to go on Chernobyl tours. The short tours, which is what you did at the start of the year, Fletch. Yes, I did December. December last year I did a day, but you can do three-day tours.

Yeah, so it's their summer now. You went in winter. Amazing photos. Snow on the ground and stuff. Beautiful. And in summer it's a different thing because you expect an area that had a nuclear fallout to not grow flowers but like nature's kind of reclaiming Yeah, well I think it's already

like trees are already coming through buildings and stuff. In 50 years it'll be completely overgrown. Yeah. You'd imagine. And quite something to see. So people are going there and there's some amazing photos to be taken. As you know, you've got some great, and you've got a video there and phenomenal to look at. But influences are flowing in

because they're all about the gram. And this influence in particular, NZ Nick, along with others, one called Julia, who has 300,000 followers. Yeah. They're actually breaking all sorts of protocol whilst in there. They're kind of getting away from their groups and getting people to take photos of them. For example, you're not supposed to really touch anything, are you?

No, that's the rule. No. You've got to wear a long sleeve top, even in summer. Yeah. So your skin's not exposed. How bad does this sound? And yeah, you're not allowed to touch anything or take anything. You're not even allowed to

use tripods. So you're not allowed to, I mean, you can obviously stand on the ground, but you can't be digging into the soil or, yeah. Because the idea with radioactivity, and I didn't know this until I saw the show, is that once something's exposed to radioactive

material, it also becomes radioactive. Yeah. Not as much, but it holds the radioactivity. Yeah. If that's the word. Look, I'm no scientist. I'm just repeating what I think I heard on the show.

When you leave Chernobyl, so you go and you have to give them your passport. And then when you leave, you go through kind of like an airport metal scanner. You put your hands on this machine that looks like it's from the 1970s and you get a radiation test and then they let you go.

So what happens if you're highly radioactive? I think you get decontaminated. But you were fine? It felt to me like it was a big show of really nothing because the machine looks so old and crappy that I was like how does this even work now?

It seems like they're just kind of keeping up with the start of safety. Keeping up appearances. That's how I felt anyway. Well, this photo, here's Julia. She sat on one of the swings and holding with her bare hands a medal that experts are saying is not to be touched with bare hands and shouldn't be. It was

literally in the exact same position the day of the nuclear meltdown. Other people are touching things that shouldn't be touched, such as the giant Ferris wheel, which I've seen people hold a Geiger meter to a specific part that's hugely radioactive. So this NZ Nick, she actually wore what looks like a hazmat suit, stripped half of it off, and she's wearing, she's topless,

and wearing a G-string in Chernobyl, and wearing a gas mask, also topless in another photo. And covering her nipples in front of an abandoned housing situation. Yeah. Highly inappropriate. What the actual hell? And the creator of the Chernobyl series has said, people have got to respect, remember,

that like a lot of people have died here. Yes. And it's led to generations of deformities. Yeah. Po, poisoning and everything going and getting a topless pic there seems a little insensitive given that it's the site of a terrible tragedy. It is, it did

amaze me how loose they were and I mean it was different for us because it was winter so there wasn't, it was quite hard to you weren't allowed to go off the tracks because obviously snow can cover holes, so they kind of did say don't go too far, but you can pretty much wander around roughly where they take you.

You can just go up buildings. See, you're fine with it. I'm not. I just think that's, I would never do that. So what photo are you trying to remove from your Chernobyl carousel on the ground? Well, so I've got a video and a couple of photos.

I sat in one of the bumper cars. Well, I just crouched over it and put my of photos. I sat in one of the bumper cars. Well, I just crouched over it and put my hands as if I was driving. Driving the bumper car. And I did, when I uploaded it, I did question. And you're topless. You're covering your nipples in the photo. I'm topless.

And you're wearing a G. It's minus five. I'm wearing a G string. And I did actually, when I posted that, I was like, oh, I don't know if I want to put this up because it is a bit like, I don't know. Megan, you didn't seem to. I didn't actually know

what your issue was because I just think the topless photos and the G-Banger and Chernobyl was insensitive. But if you're going to put your hands on something,

then that's your silly fault. Well, I kind of put them over it. Yeah, I don't think it's necessarily insensitive. I just think you're a dumbass. You're a bloody idiot. Well, it's insensitive. It's your life, isn't it? If you want to see the photos,

Fleet Gen Z will get a little plug in. Oh, yeah, I'm seeing this there. I would have left my gloves on if I were you. Yeah. It was hard to, because I was taking so many photos and using my GoPro, I had to take my gloves off for most of it.

Hey. But your likes are going up. Lauren just commented on your photo. I assume you're trying to delete photo number six. Correct assumption, Lauren. Correct assumption. Yeah, correct, yeah. Yeah.

But yeah, it's amazing. If anyone is in Europe, I'd 100% recommend it. I'd say you're going to have to... It depends. Do you want to live a long, healthy life or what do you do? Oh, you're fine. I've had a lot of questions about it. And bookings apparently have gone up 30%, 40% on last year.

But so if you are wanting to go you'd want to get in pretty quickly Do you think it's the sort of place that will where they've shut other places down in the past just because of over tourism and it just turns into a mess I mean I don't know

I think the tours are still pretty popular because I found out about it from a friend who went years ago and I've just always been fascinated by it so that's what drew me to it and the people on the tour when i went were also people that were fascinated by it slash there was like a bit of 50 50 goth it was almost like a i don't know if there was some kind of golf golf rock convention or weird kind of it was i don't know it was really weird the kind of people on the tour yeah it was a real mix of people. But yeah, I guess now it'll be more people that are

Goths are always like moths to a flame, goths to a disaster. It was just a really weird kind of eclectic mix of the people doing that tour. But yeah, it was definitely fascinating. 100% recommended. I'll just look at your pictures. Yeah, or just watch the TV show. Yeah, that too. But you're right, I'm surprised

that's not putting more people off. People were texting in where to watch the TV show that haven, that too. But you're right, I'm surprised that's not putting more people off. People are texting in where to watch the TV show that haven't seen it yet. If you want to watch it, Neon. Neon has, yeah, Chernobyl, it does. It's going to be an emotional week or so. There's good news and bad news. I have, guys, finally, I've grown up.

I've decided it's time to move on from a two-seater car and I've bought a new car. You have purchased a brand new Mahindra. No, it's not a Mahindra. It is, it's a Mahindra yurt. It's a Sanyong. It's not a Mahindra. I don't know why I'm so upset that you're saying it's a Mahindra.

It's a Sanyong. Right, okay. It's just's a Sanyong. I don't know why I'm so upset that you're saying it's Mahindra. It's a Sanyong. Right, okay. It's just a little Sanyong. But it means after 14 years. Oh, I might actually cry. After 14 years. Did I disappoint you? Stop it.

Yes, you did. Oh, did I disappoint you? It's like the car's singing. What? Don't let me down. Should I be feeling guilty? Yes, you should be. No.

So I remember we tried to sell this and no one wanted to buy it because you wanted way too much money for it. No, excuse me. There is a high market for MX5s because, like, people love those little sports cars. Vaughn loves it. It's actually, there's actually a tear running down my face. It's a ton of fun to drive.

I can see why when guys have their middle-aged crisis and leave their wives for their new younger boyfriends, they, like, love them. You are crying. It's a ton of fun to drive I can see why It's like a little go-kart When guys have their middle-aged crisis And leave their wives For their new younger boyfriends They like love them You are crying It's really I've had that car for 14 years That's the first car that I bought

All by myself My very first car My parents like helped me buy it And I didn't get to choose it They chose it And so I was like When I could buy a car I was like

I'm gonna buy This cute little red thing And I can put the top down. You love driving with the top down. Yeah, it's great. I'm surprised it's lasted this long, to be honest. I know you've had to pour some money into it lately. It's got a new alternator.

Yeah. But it's like a new car. So you just keep patching the problem. It just keeps going. You don't know how many times I've been to the petrol station and the guy's like, there is no oil in here. And I'm like, but yet it keeps on trucking.

Out of it. I'm sure we put some in like last week. Where did it all go? How often does this thing need oil? But it still keeps going and it never complains. Yeah, right. And now I'm going to drop it off. So you're driving it in today to trade it in. Oh my god. I'm going to like drive in and it'll be like,

yay, what are we here for? And then I'm going to drive away with a different car and it'll be like. It's like taking a pet to the vet to have it put down. Or even taking a puppy home. It actually is. It's like dropping off your old tabby that's done 16 years, can't even meow anymore, and then you take home a cute kitten.

I taught my husband to drive a manual in that car. But you wouldn't let him go out in it by himself, eh? Because he'd be like gay bait. Like straight up. He doesn't like driving it by himself. What the hell is that? My dream car with my dream boy in it? Holy crap.

Am I dead? Is this what gay heaven's like? What did I do to deserve this? Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. And then if he has to take Leo in it, he's like, this is just. Too much. Too much.

Too much. I've had so many great moments in that car. But yeah, I think I've proved that I will cry because I just had a wee cry now. Yeah. Been through a lot. It's weird though when you do get attached. You shouldn't, but you do get attached to material. You think how much time you spend in your car.

You named it? Ruby. Yeah. It's had a name. It's been on so many adventures. What are you going to name the Mahindra? The Sanyong. Murray. I don't know. It's not a Mahindra been on so many adventures. What are you going to name the Mahindra? The Sanyong. Murray.

I don't know. Murray. It's not a Mahindra. Murray the Mahindra. I don't know why. It's just, I don't, what? Mahindra Samsung. What is it?

Samyong? Samsong. It's a Samyong Blanc. It's a ring-a-dong. Samsong. Samyong. Sanyong. Right, okay. But, um. Itong Right, okay It's got two E's at the front Seng-yong

Okay Yeah, so you can see we've just opened the new chapter of mocking of a new car As we close the book on the mocking of her old car But it was like when we moved out of our house I got quite a little bit emotional because it was like our kids were born there. Yeah. Yeah, you do. You shouldn't, but you do get attached to material possessions.

Yeah, because it's all right to get attached to, you know, like humans and cats and dogs and stuff. But it's a car, isn't it? It's not okay to get attached to material things. I don't know. What I'd like to know on 0800Ds at M, and you can text 9696. That was, turn your mic off if you're going to sniff. What material position were you pretty attached to?

And yeah, maybe you were really sad when it went. Yeah, when it went, it was time for tears. Stop it, Fletch. You don't understand because you don't have a heart. All right, 0800 dialDARLES-N-M-9-6-9-6. Apparently Mahindra owns Sanyong, Megan. Oh, so you do have a Mahindra. Oh, Christ.

Apologise. I want to know when you've been really emotional and upset when you've lost a material object, part of your life. Anna, good morning. Hey. so when did you get emotional what happened um so i had to change my license photo recently because i got married about 18 months ago and just never got around to it yeah um so my old license photo was taken before my husband and I got together and I was really skinny back then. Okay. And so what that made you, how upset were you?

I cried. When you get your new license, is it too old? Did you stick with your old license or did it expire? No, she said that I just looked a little bit different now, so I had to get it changed. Also, I feel like they really put the pressure on you to get, because, you know, there's lots of people waiting in the line. They don't really give you the chance to.

They don't, and they don't give you, like, a mirror? No mirror. Just give me a mirror, like, put it in front of me so I know what my face is doing. Yeah, so my face is all red and my eyes are all watery, and I just, yeah. Oh, Anna, thanks for your call. Lindsay, you got emotional over a material object?

Lindsay. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I did. I did. How are you guys? Good, great. Thank you, Lindsay. I did.

I went out one night to a work event and on the way back to my car, I stepped into a crack in the ground and ripped all the leather off my Jimmy Choons and wrecked them. So I cried the whole way home and they're now wrapped up in tissue in my wardrobe because I can't bear to throw them away. Oh my God, that's my worst nightmare. Can you not just, like, buff it up or something? No, just strip the leather off the heel flesh. Can you get a new heel bit? For a Jimmy Choo? Yeah.

No, not Jimmy Choo. No. Take them to that place under the escalator. Take just a minute. Yeah. Could you resell them a Jimmy? Yeah. Surely they can sell that out.

That's horrible. Totally. You get back and they've made it their best job and they've actually just written James Shoe on the name. Yeah. Did you resell them at Jimmy? Yeah. Surely they can sort that out. That's horrible. You get back and they've made it their best job and they've actually just written James Shoe on the name. All right, Josie, you got upset over a material object? So it wasn't my first car, but I totally understand how Megan feels. I can sympathise. I had a little red Subaru Impreza for many, many years.

It moved house with us three times. I taught two teenagers to drive in it, and it survived. Megan taught one teenager to drive in it, didn't you? Did you marry your teenager? These were actual teenagers. Oh, right, okay. It was my son's first car. He came out in the morning after his 18th birthday, and she was gone.

Oh. And it was very upsetting. However, it was recovered. Yeah. There were some fingerprints on it, and somebody was arrested for it, but we did not want her back, knowing that someone had probably curb jumped and whatever with her.

So I did this big, a big obituary for our car on Facebook. Oh, I think I'll have to do that too. Because you do, you have so many memories in your car, don't you, if you've got it for like 17 years. Exactly. Josie, thanks for your call. There is a text message in. This one has cut me deep.

I cried when my dog chewed the cord to my hair straightener, but they were limited edition pink and one of the originals. So the cord is pink too, Fleets. You're looking confused. No, we'll just get a new pink cord. It's like a baby pink cord. Where do you get a baby pink cord from? The whole GHD is pink.

You ever been to J.A. Russell? What a beautiful bloody place. No, that's not the right pink. That's wrong pink. You can match the pink. You can colour match the pink to the best of your ability. There's so many pink cords here. It's a light baby pink.

It's GHD pink. Like that. That's light baby pink? No, it's too dark. That's a phone charger. So the phone charger matched, but it's no good. You could get that changed, couldn't you? Have you seen AliExpress? You can get everything on there.

Oh, I mean it might burn your house down. You'd want to get it checked by a proper electrical person. Wouldn't trust it so far. I've been also taking offers on Megan's car. Even though she's trading it in, no one has yet met what they're going to offer you for a trade-in either. Oh, that's good.

Yeah. Someone's like, 500 bucks? Get real, champ. Get real. Get real, buddy. Lots of people saying that the car was the thing that broke them. I sold, I had to trade in my 1990 Toyota Corolla. It was very teary, had many memories attached to that car.

Saw it a few months later, spotted it by its number plate. It was being driven by a patched gang member with a huge pit bull hanging out the back window. Okay. Broke my heart. Felt like I'd sold my child to the gang. That gang member might love it just as much as you loved it. Yep. Oh, no, that wasn't...

He might pop into Repco and get a little cherry. Yeah, the little smelly... E-freshener. Yeah, like, smelly hanger. Like, smells of the forest. Maybe the mongrel mobs moved into those sorts of accessories. Maybe. Because they do do accessories.

Yeah. A little hangy mongrel mob smell. Yeah. Nice. Like a rich leather. Really take care of it. You could really be loving it. Okay.

The dogs at home. Take these ideas to the next chapter meeting, Vaughn. Sounds like you've got a real ear for business. I'll just drop it in the letterbox. Am I a bad person? Okay, this is a tough one today. It is an email. And I actually feel like lots of people will understand this conundrum

and be in this situation. So we need you to judge if this person is a bad person or if they're not. Okay. It says, hi guys, I really need your help on this one, please. I have a moral conundrum. My grandparents are in their 80s and they live in a home. I haven't seen

them in over a year and I know I should go and visit them. They send me Christmas presents and my parents are Seems pretty straightforward up till here. The thing is, they just aren't very nice people. They're racist, homophobic, and they always fat shame people. They're constantly gossiping and always feel the need to negatively comment on my clothes and physical appearance. I did used to love hanging out with my grandparents when I was younger,

but I have loved seeing them less and less and always come away feeling pretty shitty. Am I a bad person for not going to see them? Oh, what a conundrum. I'm wondering why the dad wants her to go and see them. Because it's her grandparents and they should love them. Even to the grandparents, they don't even sound like they like her. But they send her Christmas presents and stuff. Yeah, but that's because they're obligated to.

But you know old people that don't. There's a weird amount of obligation with family, isn't there? Like you have to go see them or you have to get presents or something. But surely if you don't want to, if you don't like them, you just don't. I've never faced a situation. I was very lucky to have four very awesome grandparents. But maybe if it was different, I might have a different one. Well, that's the thing.

And they don't know. And it's not an excuse for their racism and their fat shaming. But they don't know any better, do they? Different times. Different times. And like, I was going to say you can go there and try and educate them a bit, but like... No, it's too late. They can't teach an old dog new tricks. And they don't want to.

I think they want to argue sometimes, because they're bored. Old people. Yeah, right. Listening to my fair share of talkback, sometimes I just think they are happiest when they're the most miserable. Yeah. Yeah. It's a horrible way to live.

I don't think they're a bad person. I mean, maybe you'd make an effort at Christmas. Surely you'd see them at Christmas anyway. Would you not? Yeah, maybe. But then your parents are saying that's obviously not enough. Like, they want you to go and see them all the time because they're worried. Are you being written out of the will?

Is there a sort of a financial fallout for not going and seeing them? I feel the only reason the parents are saying that is because they're probably getting it in the air from them. Like, where are they? They're not visiting. They don't care about me anymore. You're bloody kids. Stop being racist.

You didn't bring them up right. I would just say, well, you've got to stop when they come around. Stop doing this. Can you just go and distract them? Keep them distracted the whole time. I was going to say play a board game game but then you'll just end up arguing. Yeah. But at Monopoly

go to jail. I'll tell you who goes to jail. Young hooligans like you. Yeah. Can you give them like a what knocks them out? Give them a whiskey and then they'll be out cold

and be like oh yeah I spent three hours with you. No they've drunk their whole lives. They'll drink out of the table. They will. They've got leathery old livers.

So I don't know maybe we'll take some calls the table. They will. They've got leathery old livers. So, I don't know, maybe we'll take some calls from anyone in this situation. Like, do you think you have to go at least like once every six months or... I don't know. I'm really stubborn

and I just don't do things I don't want to do. So if you don't want to go and see them, just don't go and see them. If they're going to make you miserable, yeah, don't do it. And if they're going to be awful to you,

I'm just of the opinion you don't have to be around anyone that says nasty things to you. miserable, yeah, don't do it. And if they're going to be awful to you, I'm just of the opinion, you don't have to be around anyone that says nasty things to you. Yeah, life's too short. Family or not. That includes family. Yeah. Okay, well, 0800DARLSATM9696,

is she a bad person? Maybe you've been in this situation. Yeah. Got some words of wisdom, some advice. Can you say something to old people? Like, you know, your grandparents. Have you tried that? Have you tried to say stop being racist and homophobic? Yeah.

And stop, you know, belittling me. There'd be some woke old people, I think. Oh yeah, totally. Without a doubt there would be. But yeah, maybe few and far between. I don't know, give us a call. 0800 DALES at M9696. Am I a bad person?

So the email into the show, wow, and we have divided the nation. Yeah. Do you think this person is a bad person? So her grandparents are in their 80s,

they're living in a home, she hasn't seen them in over a year, she knows she should go visit them, her parents are constantly asking them to, they get Christmas presents,

but the grandparents are racist, homophobic, they always fat shame people and they say negative things about them when they go there. So it's not a nice experience. It's not inviting, is it? No. It doesn't sound warm and inviting, although do they have biscuits? Maybe they're just trying to get rid of you when you go to the home.

Because they've always got something on. Very social, aren't they, if they live in like a village or a home? No, but not in this case. They're complaining that they're not coming around enough. Yeah, but these just sound like horrible old complainers. They do. Kate, what do you think? Is she a bad person?

Well, yeah, I think so, because I think that she could probably go about four times a year for half an hour and just suck it up. Kate, have you ever visited an old person in an old person's home half an hour? Christ, you're lucky to get out of there after four. No, unfortunately, I have to do it on a regular basis and a bit of dementia in there as well, but then they forget that you've even

been, so half an hour's enough. But take photos, get photos on your phone, show them that, that fills in a bit of time. And, yeah, I think, as grandparents, you probably had some fun times years ago, and now's your time. Okay, but that's obviously a pleasant experience for you, right? I mean

aside obviously the dementia. No, it's good. But are they horrible to you? They have been, yeah. But you still do it. Well, you know, like, you should. You should. If you don't, you know, it's just something you should do. You just have to

suck it up and do it. And then you don't have to go, it's just something you should do. You just have to suck it up and do it. And then you don't have to go, well, I mean, I go all the time, but she doesn't have to go all the time, but she should at least go, say, four times a year, once a season. Because it's family. I'm so torn. I'm so torn by this. Yeah.

I just think if they're really nasty to you, you shouldn't have to put up with that from anyone and it doesn't matter what age they are. No, I know that, but unfortunately when they get old and cranky, that's what happens and you just have to do it. It's true. I can't guarantee that I won't be old and cranky. Oh, I'm 100% will be.

Yeah, but you also won't expect visitors. You'll be like, I am a... Stay away from me. You'll totally realise you're miserable. Alice, what do you think? Is she a bad person? I don't think she's a bad person but I do feel like she's obligated to go because

she wouldn't be on this earth without them. Okay this is a true this is a good point. She didn't ask to be on this earth either. Trust me I've argued with my parents as a teenager I can say well I didn't ask to be born. But I mean, if you're going and visiting and you're getting fat shamed, you're

getting called names, they're homophobic, racist. Do you have to put up with that? No, I mean, I don't think you have to. I've had amazing grandparents and I had some stink grandparents and stink. They're part of a generation that is horrifically... Stink. Yeah horrifically racist and homophobic.

It's not their fault, but build a bridge. And like the lady said before, suck it up. You've only got to do it for a little bit and then you can go back to your life. Build a bridge. Get over it. Yeah. Good advice. Good advice.

Thanks, Alice. Some text messages. We're all very stubborn people, aren't we? I just don't like people being mean to me and I don't feel like I should stand for it. Yeah, you've got like 24 hours in a day. You shouldn't have to waste any of it with people that you find miserable.

You're supposed to love me because we're family and if you're not going to be nice to me, then no. So online, out of all the votes we've had, 86% of people say no, she's not a bad person. But then in terms of text messages and calls. Pretty split. It seems pretty split. I'm surprised by that poll.

Pretty split. Somebody said, you're not a bad person. I've wondered if they've tried asking them to refrain from these topics. And then they can agree to show some mutual respect. Just say, hey, look, I would love to come and visit you but if this is going to happen every time,

maybe just don't speak. That's how we should talk to each other as grown-ups. Yeah, not just pack a sad and not tell them why we're not.

It's easier to do that. Stacey, is she a bad person? I don't think so because if you go and visit someone and they make you feel horrible about yourself, why

on earth would you go back? It doesn't matter if they're family or not. And it also doesn't matter of their age either. I think the age is a weird thing. Like, people are like, oh, you've got to because they're old. But I wouldn't go and visit anybody that made me feel miserable, regardless of their age. It's not an excuse, yeah. I mean, unless they've got an illness of some description that hinders the way they act. 100% different situation if there's debilitating brain stuff happening.

Yeah, but just being old and cranky is, well, they can suck it up. Yeah. Okay, Stacey, we can be friends. This is true. This is true. All right. Thanks, you cool, Stacey. Some of the text messages, not a bad person at all.

Someone said, I think she is a bad person. I know you shouldn't feel obligated to see family, but grandparents are from a different generation. It depends how in the will you are as well, doesn't it? Yeah, man, if you're the main benefactor, pop in. Oh, you'd be popping in daily. Yeah, and if you're not in the will, pop in and get them to sign it again. Only kidding.

Not really. But only kidding. Not really really But only kidding Not really But only kidding Not really Sure So I mean we can Pretty much say Not a bad person

Yeah From text messages But make an effort if you can Yeah Yeah I like how people are like Oh it's only gonna be For a little while

It's only gonna be For a little while Suck it up It's only gonna be For a little while Old people are like, oh, it's only going to be for a little while. It's only going to be for a little while. Suck it up. It's only going to be for a little while. Old people are made to last these days. Yeah. It's not like the 60s anymore. Yeah.

They live to 100. That's not a big deal anymore. And if they're only in their early 80s, then sucking it up and going once a week. That's 20 years. 20 years of being fat shamed, listening to racist and homophobic comments. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. And also help probably get them on the Wi-Fi

and fix the laptop or the iPad. I'd take the technology off them. Yeah, that's something that you shouldn't have to do for one generation above you. They shouldn't fall on you too much more than that. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Today's fact of the day is about animals that can laugh. The only animals that can laugh.

Goats? No. What about that video? Isn't there a goat laughing on a video? No, that's okay. It's just... Oh, right. Oh, the screaming goats? Barring.

Oh, okay, right. So there's us. Yep. We enjoy a laugh and we are also an animal. Monkeys. That's another one. What about parrots? No.

Dogs? No. Yeah, that dog is like... Do dogs laugh? Muttly. Yeah, it was a car toy. No, when I tickle Leo under his arms, he goes... No, that's respiratory illness from inbreeding.

No, that's laughing. That's just panting. No, he's like smiling and he's like... I'm like, he's laughing because it tickles. No, it's not dogs. They don't laugh according to scientists. No, they don't know anything. Dolphins.

Rats. Oh, yeah. Rats can laugh. Really? How creepy is that? Is it like... Do you see them laugh on your... Do you still have your camera in the ceiling

looking out for your rats? I haven't looked on the camera in the ceiling lately. Actually, I haven't logged on to that. There might be a dead rat in there. Oh, yeah. I haven't logged on for ages because I haven't had it turned on. You've sort of been home.

He's got a camera on his rat traps. Yeah, because I need to know when the trap goes off because then if it's in a place where I can't logged on for ages because I haven't had it turned on. Because we've been home. He's got a camera on his rat traps. Yeah, because I need to know when the trap goes off because then it's in a place where I can't see it. So then if the trap goes off, I'll know to go up and clear. Okay, stand by. I'm just about to load up the camera. Is this a live feed? I don't know if it's like...

Last thing was 10 days ago. Wait a minute. If there is a rat in there, we won't be laughing. I'll tell you that much. No, clear. Listen. If there is a rat in there, we won't be laughing. I'll tell you that much. No, Claire. It's Claire. Listen. What's that?

It's the sound of my ceiling. Could imagine if you heard your wife at home with someone else or something. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. I'm going to check the driveway camera now to make sure that there's no other cars in the driveway. I'll assume the affair she's having is the guy comes on a car and not a bicycle. Oh, this is so much greater than porn. Hold on just a minute.

Oh, you heard her like singing or something. No cars in the driveway, so that just counts travel. He might have walked. Or a bike. Is there a bike? No, there's no bikes in the driveway. A bicycle? Let me check the back porch.

What about the neighbours? The neighbours? Well, that's a thing. He could come over barefoot, couldn't he? No, but people are doing this now. They're buying like trackers on Amazon and stuff. Well, that's a thing. He could come over barefoot, couldn't he? No, but people are doing this now. They're buying like trackers on Amazon and stuff. Yeah, that's great. And cameras and like putting them in their cars.

Well, she's having an affair at home. She's not leaving the house, so the tracker would be no good. I think I need to strap her with a camera. Just so I can see what she's seeing. No stray boots at the back door. Let me check the front door. It's easy to know where you're at in the morning. There's a mite.

What's that? Oh, my God. That's rural West Auckland. That's so beautiful. Yeah, the tuis have come back. I think we've got a breeding pair of fantas, and I saw a kereru. Oh, you see Instagram to be that?

It's a lovely kereru. Bird of the year. Getting some more native trees to plant in the hope to foster some more native birds. But that's not what this break's about. I forgot what we were even talking about. Not my great work. Laughing rats.

Laughing rats. Yeah. I thought dolphins would be on the list, right? But they don't laugh as a result of tickling stimulation. Is it dolphins that have organisms? Yeah. Yeah, like we do? They mate for fun. He means... that have organisms? Yeah. Yeah, like we do? They mate for fun. He means

the big O. Yeah, right. Okay, the big Oprah. Okay, hold on. What animals Or do they mate? I think, yeah, they just mate for pleasure. That's what it is. What animals mate for pleasure? Yeah, it is us and dolphins. I think that's chimpanzees as well.

What is that? Is it the bonobo monkey? They're very sexual. Pigs, humans, and bonobos. Perhaps dolphins. Did you get that picture when you Googled that? Of the monkeys? Well, I couldn't do that position. What is that?

Oh, no, I've got a different one. No, no, no, no. I've got the same one, but it's just down the page. Well, this is a picture of two monkeys. Great arm strength. Yeah. Oh, my, I've got a different one. No, no, no, no. I've got the same one, but it's just down the page. Well, this is a picture of two monkeys. Great arm strength. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yeah.

Arm strength, leg strength, core strength. That's like some, like, a Les Mills class. I was going to say, that's what I assume you go to F45 for. To build the strength up to be able to rock the position that a bonobo monkey. There's actually four of them involved in that photo. I'm just going to exit out of this. Best thing I want. So somebody said, what about

hyenas? They sound like they're laughing, but that's their equivalent of howling or barking. That sounds like a laugh, but that's not a laugh. It's not an expression of joy from being tickled and or. So if you tickle a rat, it will laugh? It will laugh.

Now I just imagine those people that have rats as pets. They're tickling them the whole time. Or they're going to start tickling them. So today's fact of the day is that rats laugh. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. So Netflix or falling asleep to Netflix might not actually be very good for you. So this is falling asleep with screens on. So your TV could be on, your laptop could be on, your light could be on. It's falling asleep in light conditions.

Because even having so much light before we go to sleep is bad for us as well. Yeah. A daytime nap? I don't actually know how that would fit into the study. So they have studied over a five-year period. They did women. I think it was purely women. Okay.

And it was if you left lights on or had light on when you went to sleep. And this doesn't include shift workers, people with cancer or cardiovascular disease,

daytime sleepers, so people who already had that routine or people who are pregnant. So people who are used to going to bed at night, dark. It found that people who left the lights on or had light on when they went to sleep gained 5 kgs. Wow.

Became newly overweight. 22% were more likely to become newly overweight and 33% more likely to become newly obese by leaving the lights on. Over obese. Did I say over obese? Over obese. I actually like that. That sounds nicer. Overbeast. Did I say overbeast? Overbeast. I actually like that. It sounds nicer. Morbidly overbeast.

Not beast. Just beast. Overbeast. Overbeast. Yeah, so you shouldn't fall asleep with the light on and that's because it upsets your... Circadia. Circadia rhythm.

No. Circadian. Because it will delay your body clock. Yeah. Yeah. So it'll chuck you out of whack. Chuck you way out of whack. It's not good for your metabolism.

Right. It also says that this is not good for people who have short sleeps. Circadian rhythm. Circadian rhythm. Yeah. Circadian. Circadian.

Aren't cicadas named after them? Oh, because they chirp in the light. Or is it named after cicada? Because they work on a cycle. Chirp in the light and then they... So, okay, so falling asleep with Netflix on is going to make you fat. Yeah. It also says if you have a lack of sleep that it affects your hormones

to regulate your appetite. So if you don't have a lot of sleep, you want to eat everything. Oh, God. That's not good for us, is it have a lot of sleep, you want to eat everything. That's not good for us, is it? Great for our hours, isn't it? That's why when I go to sleep, I like darkness. People that just have windows open can't deal with it.

Have you ever thought about sleeping in a coffin? Because it's entirely pitch black. Like a vampire? That would be pretty amazing if you did. Well, you need air holes. Are you a roller or do you do this. Go to your bed and get a comfy coffin. Are you a roller or do you go to sleep and that's it? No, I roll. I am on my side.

Toss and turn? Yeah, or I'm mostly on my front. Right. Yeah. You're on your front. Face down. You lie on your stomach. I go face down and sign on.

You go face down. Yeah, I love face down. How do you breathe when you're face down? I think I go face down too. You put your head to the side. Head to the side. No, that leads to a sore neck. That's a crook in the neck situation. No, well, I'm fine, aren't I? With your hand under too. You put your head to the side. Heads to the side. No, that leads to a sore neck. That's a crick in the neck situation.

No, well, I'm fine, aren't I? With your hand under the pillow. Yeah. Or on the side. Just go on your side or your back, aren't you? What about you with your new alarm clock and your light that's seeping into your room? That'll be why. He says as he grabs a handful of gush.

That'll be this. This is the new alarm clock. This is the hallway light. Yep. That's your safety net if you ever get sick. That's what my parents always used to say to me. Just in case I get on an abandoned island. I've just got a little bit of reserves in the tank.

You could crash on an island and have to survive. And you'll be fine. Because your mum said to put a bit of cardboard over the alarm clock. Yeah, yeah. So I got some thick paper and folded that in half and put that over it, thinking that would dull some of the light but no, it's just turned

what was sort of like thin blue sticks of light into like A glow. Like a big glow. Somebody, I remember somebody at the time saying

go to a tinting place and get a cut off and off scrap. Yeah, yeah, someone that does car window tinting. Well, I thought I would do the easier option than that

and I got some thick tape see-through, it's like packing tape. And I put that over it and then tried to colour that in black with a vivid. Just get a new alarm clock. Megan, I've invested $9 in this alarm clock. And it's mostly just because Sade told me at the time when I

bought it, she's like, that's going to be way too bright. I can't let her have this. ZM's Fletch Warner Megan. The podcast. It's pretty crazy. I mean, it's not crazy we expect it to happen when massive bands are coming that their concerts sell out and they just put on another concert, don't they? They do, yeah.

But when tickets, bookings and availability for one of our great walks sells out in seconds, they can't just put on another great walk, can they? Just do it in two nights' time at the same venue. Unfortunately, it can't just put on another great walk can they? Just do it in two nights time at the same venue. Unfortunately can't happen. So Milford Track their bookings for the 2019-2020 season so the end of this year they open 9.30

on Tuesday and the peak period sold out within seconds That's nuts. The Department of Conservation only have so many beds and nights available on the Milford track. And it's so popular now. And it's one of our great walks.

And it's regarded around the world as one of the most beautiful walks in the world. It just sold out. Wow. It just absolutely sold out. There's a new track down there, the Paparoa track. The first walks won't be until December 1st. But apparently that's going to sell out because everybody that can't get into Milford's looking for other options. Who might have already bought plane tickets down to New Zealand, international travellers

and the like. And they can't get in. I'm a big fan doing, you know, having done a little bit of tramping. It's great to be able to book a hut because there's nothing worse than, like we went to that hut and there were like, what, 40 people trying to stay in an 18 bunk hut. Yeah. And that was a hut that didn't take bookings? And they were just going to.

Yeah. They arrived to a full hut, but they were just going to stay on the floor. Yeah, yeah. They'd walked all that way, so why not? Yeah. So, I mean, it's a good thing. It can be booked, but also like, and it's good because it's money in, and like the Department of Conservation, and it's great work, and it's beautiful in New Zealand, but sold out so quickly.

But what can you do? Well, yeah, lots of other walks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did a bit of the Abel Tasman. That was a booking one. But what if you've done all the other walks? Well, yeah, this is true. And the Milford's your last one to collect.

Got to be quick. You got to be quick. It's like Adele tickets, mate. She may never tour again. Oh, no, no. You've got to snaffle those up. These walks are like concert tickets now. Pretty much.

In fact, I'm not surprised. I can look on Veagogo. 100%. I was just about to say, I wonder if anyone's scalping any. Oh, shit. If anybody just bought, like, tons. But then the weirdest part is you probably end up on the walk with your scalper. Because they bought them for themselves and then they buy 20 more.

Yeah. It was bizarre. In the Abel Tansy, the lady had, like, a little mini tablet. And she'd like I think I don't know She scanned the tickets Or like ticked you off

Really? Because they have wardens In some of the big huts and stuff Right So I don't know If you could go on Via GoGo And get like a hut ticket Just be careful

For like six times the price But be careful Yeah you walk six and a half To eight hours And you get there And then they're like Sorry it's a fake Did you buy this off Via GoGo?

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