ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - March 06 2019

Episode Date: March 5, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome one, welcome all to the Fletch, Vaughan and Megan podcast brought to you by Spark. Get four gigs of bonus data on Spark's $49 prepaid value pack. Now, on with the podcast. It's on. M&M's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Thanks, Anya. Good morning. Welcome to the show. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Do you think when M&M was here at the weekend, he was like,
Starting point is 00:00:21 what's happening with this? Where's my money? Yeah, let's get this moving. National party? Where's my money? Yeah, let's get this moving. National Party? Where's my money? Chasing them dollar bills. Probably doesn't even know, to be honest. Probably doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:00:33 I think 45,000 people, however many went in Wellington, paying as much as they did. He's okay for cash. He's okay for cash. He is. It's not like he needed the National Party
Starting point is 00:00:43 to come to the party with some money so he could refuel his private jet to get the F out of here. So he's probably okay. Now, big day, Game of Thrones trailer has dropped while you were sleeping and it's available to watch right now online. Megan and I had a little watch before you got here. You weren't allowed to.
Starting point is 00:01:04 And now I've not been allowed to until I'm just about to right now. That's good. Because you can't concentrate. It's your wee treat after you've done your work. I need a coffee, though. How long is this? One minute 52? And it finishes and you go, ooh.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Ooh. Yeah. And then you're like, hurry up, April 15th. You're doing a light rewatch of the last season? I feel like I need to. That's what made me think maybe I should maybe start, go two seasons back, because the last few seasons haven't been that many eps,
Starting point is 00:01:35 have they? No, no, they've been shorter eps and insanely massive battle scenes. Watch a couple a night maybe just to get kind of refreshed and up to date. Yeah. Because even now as a bit of a veteran, I still get a bit lost with characters and where people are. The rewatch from the start was the greatest thing I ever did. Right. Because I knew who the Bolton guy was.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Don't worry, Kate, I'm not spoiling anything. The Bolton guy was from the start. Right. When he popped up, I'm like, that's what he does. That's who he is. Right. All the connections. It's too late to start from the start now.
Starting point is 00:02:06 It's never too late. All right. The top six is coming up on the show. Yeah, the Tooth Fairy's average payout has been dropping lately. This is US Tooth Fairy statistics, and it's one tooth fairy. It's a Ponteira payout, eh? Yeah, bloody firm game. Bloody milk prices.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Milk prices. Am I right? Some banter for the farmers this morning. Did I do good? Well, yeah. They're up. They're milking. Oh, they're up.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Yeah, they're up. The milking cows. The payments are up. No, the farmers are up. Oh, yeah, right. Okay. We've got to get up. Even if the payments are down, you've got to get up to get down.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Okay. Go get a coffee. All right, you lot. Listen up. It's story time. All right, I've found three news stories. I'll give you three news headlines. Vaughan and Megan, you've got to pick one of the following three.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Headline one, happy Ikea Easter. Headline two, college goes to pot. And headline three, billboard goes the extra mile. Oh. Mmm. I think I like the sound of the first one. And you had this smug little look on your face when you said it.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Happy Ikea restart. I don't know why I had that smug. Are you really down this one? No, it's just that. It's just my look. What was the other? School goes to pot, did you say? College goes to pot. College goes to pot. So like uni.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Pot as in marijuana. They're growing it there? Well, it's legal in a lot of states now. And what was the last one? Billboard. Billboard goes the extra mile. Well, I don't know, Bourne. Oh, Ikea Easter is going to be something in the Ikea catalogue that's very Easter themed.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Can you buy like an Easter basket? No. That's silly. Why would you do that? Oh Easter themed. Can you buy like an Easter basket? No. That's silly. Why would you do that? Hey, don't Google. What are you doing? Oh, no, I don't think that's it. Is it?
Starting point is 00:04:16 In Canada, they're using students to help with the pot industry? No. No. I go, I go, well, they're all good.
Starting point is 00:04:28 The billboard, I don't understand at all how a billboard goes the extra mile. Okay, so do you want that one? Um, yes.
Starting point is 00:04:35 No, see, it was the outsider for me. It was not even on the, on the board, but then you just said you want that one and now I'm,
Starting point is 00:04:40 yes. You do want that one. You do want that one. Megan, are you happy? Yeah. Billboard goes the extra mile. All right, well, you may have heard
Starting point is 00:04:48 just in the last couple of days there was a horrific tornado. There have been tornadoes in the Midwest. Yeah, tornado season and tornado alley. Yeah. I think it killed quite a few people as well. Oh, really? It killed a few people.
Starting point is 00:05:01 A few people died. This was tweeted from US Tornado's Twitter account. Now, they have found evidence of a billboard for the flea market company that travelled 20 miles. Holy moly, from where it was to where it ended up. I'm going to show you a photo of the billboard. It's on a giant pole. It's a huge billboard.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Yeah, like the Decker billboard. Yeah, it's almost as big as you can get a billboard. It's, you know, on top of a pole, a single pole. And it was torn off and landed 20 miles away. And it was intact. Intact? Yeah. Just plonked down 20 miles away. So they've got photos of it. Did it take the pole as well? No, it was intact. Intact? Intact. Yeah. Just plonked down 20 miles away.
Starting point is 00:05:45 So they've got photos of... Did it take the pole as well? No, it ripped off. I was going to say, if it literally like the pole stabbed into the ground, I would be calling it. Yeah. But isn't that...
Starting point is 00:05:54 Because I mean, when you've never been in a tornado... Oh, absolutely unfathomable amount of strength. Because they all have the little bunkers under their house, don't they? The tornado shelters. I feel like we're just good with it. I'm friends with her
Starting point is 00:06:07 on Facebook. I haven't talked to her about it, but it should be super interesting. She spent time chasing storms, chasing tornadoes
Starting point is 00:06:13 in the States. She's a storm chaser. Yeah, she had photos on her Facebook of storm chasing. Those people are nuts, eh? It's loose. So loose.
Starting point is 00:06:20 But then the payoff, if you saw a cow spinning around, that would be worth it. Does that actually happen? Yeah. It doesn't. If it goes over livestock, they can't hide.
Starting point is 00:06:32 So they just get honed up. Everything does, like billboards and everything. So 20 miles is like 32km or something like that. Yeah, so you think about what 32km is away, that's how far it travelled in the air. That's mad. That is nice. In a tornado.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah. And the fact that it landed intact didn't get broken up by the winds, let alone the impact of hitting the ground again. No. And I know you really wanted... Ikea has launched a flat pack Easter bunny that you build before you eat. Out of chocolate? Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:04 That's pretty cool. Oh, Yes. That's pretty cool. Oh, yeah. That's pretty cool. When are we getting an idea? I've seen chocolate things that you build before you eat before, and I thought they were pretty cool. Saw them overseas. You just end up eating the flat pack bits.
Starting point is 00:07:18 So at the weekend. It'd be much easier to eat the flat pack bits. At the weekend, I ordered a moccaccino, because you know I love a mochaccino. Yeah. Sometimes. And it was a deconstructed mochaccino. Oh, like you added
Starting point is 00:07:29 your own chocolate. So there was a cup and it had chocolate swirled around it and then there was a cup, another cup of the actual coffee. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:37 All fluffed up and stuff. And then the next one was... Wait, the coffee was... Oh, wait, the fluffed up milk. Yeah, and then you had to pour it in. Oh, you didn't like that.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And then mix it yourself. Did it taste good? Just give me a mochaccino. No, not really, because I mixed it. When I have to make it, it's... But I'm not... How much did it cost? Just a normal mocha, I think.
Starting point is 00:07:58 You should be paying less than the mocha rate if you're going to build it yourself. Well, yeah, because I'm doing most of the work. You're doing all the labour. Now, you used to be able to do this and according to an article published
Starting point is 00:08:11 yesterday, you can do it again. This is searching a phone number on Facebook and getting linked to somebody's Facebook account.
Starting point is 00:08:20 It was always great for stalking. Yeah. Like a good stalking. Like, you know, you match with someone, e.g., you match with someone on a dating app, you might get their phone number and you give them a light stalk to see if you've got mutual friends
Starting point is 00:08:31 or they could be an axe murderer. Like a perusal rather than a stalk. Yeah, a light perusal rather than a stalk. Or you work at a radio station where people text message in things that may be slightly unsavoury or seem wildly narrow-minded and then you can search their thing, their Facebook,
Starting point is 00:08:47 see what they look like and be like, that makes sense now. Which is what Vaughan does. Just Vaughan. Just Vaughan. This all, this puzzle's coming together.
Starting point is 00:08:58 So, but then it disappeared a little while ago. When the whole Facebook privacy thing erupted. Is that when it disappeared? That's when they took it away, yeah. Because they were giving people's,
Starting point is 00:09:12 they were giving advertisers people's phone numbers and details associated with that. Right. Do you remember the Analytica, blah, blah, blah. That happened a while ago and they were like, all right, everyone's privacy is important to us. You can't stalk people. Boo!
Starting point is 00:09:24 What, is it not as important to us. You can't stalk people. Boo! What? Is it not as important anymore? They've brought it back. Well, no, apparently, because this is written by a tech guy and apparently it's a little backdoor way, isn't it? Yes. He writes for the New York Times. He's a security researcher and columnist for the New York Times.
Starting point is 00:09:38 And he has pointed out that apparently Facebook is allowing anyone to look up a user by their phone number again. The same phone number that you would have registered for security purposes, two-factor authentication. So if you get locked out or if someone's trying to get into your account, it sends you a text message and lets you know. I get these all the time. It's like, your reset code is da-da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Yeah, you should always have two-factor authentication. Yeah. But now it's a dilemma that people are going to be able to stalk you. Apparently, use the same number you have registered to Facebook. They will be able to, if they have your phone number
Starting point is 00:10:11 somehow, search it on Facebook and have it linked to your account and bring your number up or your name up. Right. I just tried this.
Starting point is 00:10:18 It probably won't work because I tried it on myself with my own phone number and it said no results found. Oh, okay. Yeah. Just tell me your phone number and it said no results found. Oh, okay. Yeah. Just tell me your phone number and I'll put it in. You just read it out.
Starting point is 00:10:29 We'll just get people to try it at home. No, it's fine. It's fine. We'll try it another way. We'll try something else. Right. Maybe since then they've closed it up. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Because that does seem like a glaring loophole. A wildly glaring loophole. Yeah. Well, there might be a chance if you want to light stalk somebody and you've got their phone number to do that. It's a light perusal. Just a light perusal, again. The Uber list of lost and found, their index has been released and there are some weird things in there.
Starting point is 00:11:03 So they've released the top 10 common items. Okay. Which is what you'd expect. Can I guess car keys? Or house keys? That is number three. Vaughan, your turn. I did that in a taxi once. Never got them back. Oh, I never got them back. Phone slash camera is number
Starting point is 00:11:19 one. So your wallet and purse is number two. If this was Family Feud, the Smiths would have just gone through the next round. Maximum points. Headphones and purse is number two If this was Family Feud The Smiths would have just gone through The next round You got maximum points Headphones and speakers Is number ten Passport Umbrellas
Starting point is 00:11:31 A vape E-cigarette Glasses Clothing items Backpacks and bags And then yeah Phone and camera is number one Okay
Starting point is 00:11:39 What are the weird items? So the weird items This is the things that people leave behind in Ubers. In there an entire boneless chicken. Boneless chicken? Wait, an entire boneless, or do you mean like chicken breasts? No, it says an entire
Starting point is 00:11:56 boneless chicken, but would that be like one of those boneless chicken roasts? No, but. How do you get a boneless chicken roast? Yeah, but it's not like. How do they get the bones? All the bones out of the chicken. No, but it's do you get a bone... Can you get a boneless chicken rice? Yeah, but it's not like... How do you get a boneless chicken rice? How do they get the bones? All the bones out of the chicken. No, but it's made into like a roll situation. Oh, like the turkey things my mum gets at Christmas
Starting point is 00:12:11 because she's too scared to get an actual turkey. Yeah. Right. And then it's in like a meatloaf. But see, to me, that's not a boneless chicken. That's a chicken loaf. That's a chicken roll. Or a chicken roll.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I mean, they've said an entire boneless chicken. That does suggest that it's like a chicken. Without bones. Shit, it would make my day if it was actually a real life chicken. And it was just like a puddle of feathers. And it's just like. I was born with no feathers. Because it probably wouldn't even have a skull to have the beak on.
Starting point is 00:12:44 How amazing would a boneless chicken be to roast? Oh my god. So good. Oh no, because the best part about, is the bones. Like a good bit of thigh around that bone, get the teeth in against the bone. No. That's why I can't get on board with chicken-free chicken.
Starting point is 00:12:59 There's no bone. There was a insulin or insulin pens left in there. Those are expensive, aren't they? Yeah, they're expensive. No, insulin pens are different. Oh, is it different? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Are they cheap? No, insulin pens are for diabetics. Oh, yeah, okay. Okay, yeah, different, okay. A single block of butter. That's expensive too. That's not going to last. I imagine someone's going around to like a dinner party and they're like, hey, can you
Starting point is 00:13:28 just bring some butter? And they get out of the Uber like, damn it, I had one job. It's scooted. You're never going to believe this. I left the butter in the Uber. A chef's set of professional knives. Oh, those would be expensive. People going back for these.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Oh, you'd be going back for a set of knives. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Good set of professional knives. Oh, those would be expensive. People going back for these. Oh, you'd be going back for a set of knives. Yeah. Oh, yeah, good set of knives. Two boxes of cream chargers. Nos. Nos-ies. Oh, yeah, okay. The little gas canisters.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I was just going to whip some cream. I'm a chef. I work in an industrial kitchen. Sarah, it's two o'clock in the morning. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I can't have another one of those. I've got to get up in the morning. Heaps of security guards.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Cards, not guards. And passports. A EFTPOS machine, like a whole machine. A whole machine, okay. Yeah. A unicycle, because they obviously got tired and needed an Uber. Yeah. The rest of the way home.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Well, it's a good, a lot of core strength to unicycle. Yeah. Yeah, well, you would be. Can you go down a hill on a unicycle? You've got to land right back. Or up a hill? No, that's a good question. Can you go down a hill?
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yeah, because they're the same premise as a fixie. Like, your legs have got to go around the same thing, so you've actually just got to put a lot of back pedal on it. So if you did a back pedal, it would break it. You'd know you've just got to slow pedal. Slow pedal. You'd have to put a lot of energy into controlling the pedal. No, but what about if it was a big hill?
Starting point is 00:14:57 I don't know if they can. Yeah, and then up a hill would be too hard as well. I know someone that unicycles. Do you want me to ask them? What? Who do you know that unicycles? I know someone that unicycles. Do you want me to ask them? What? Who do you know that unicycles? I know someone that unicycles. What is their name? How do you know them?
Starting point is 00:15:11 How do you know them? It's not that uncommon. You see them all the time. Did you sleep with someone from Cirque du Soleil again? No. Did you? Have you been hitting that, Cousa?
Starting point is 00:15:27 No. They did have No. Have you been hitting that, Kooza? No. They did have a unicyclist. They always do. They had that couple and he was like lifting her. Yeah, that was mad. That was mental. And lastly, a rocket. I have no further information on the rocket.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Like a school project. I don't know. You know those ones that you pumped up with air and water and they fizzed up a couple of hundred metres and you're like, oh. Oh, yeah, you pump them up with a school project. I don't know. You know those ones that you pumped up with air and water and they fizzed up a couple of hundred metres and you're like, oh. Oh, yeah, you pump them up with a foot pump. A couple of metres, yeah. So there was, on average, 65 items reported lost each weekend. And Saturdays, of course, is the most common day for people to lose their stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Right, of course it is. From the ZM think tank, this is the top six. Yes, good morning. Apparently news out of the US that the average tooth fairy payments have decreased over the last couple of years. Is business suffering or something? Well, for the second year in a row, the tooth fairy payouts have fallen. Two years ago, the average payout stood at $4.66 US. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And now it's down to under $4. That's a lot though, isn't it? So the tooth index has fallen or something. Yeah, against the footsie and the yanny. All those ones that are always on the news that you're like, one day I'll understand that, but I've been saying that for 30 years. Well, I guess the economy's not booming as much as, you know, it has been.
Starting point is 00:16:49 No, no, it's slowing, but that's tough times. So the top six reasons the tooth fairy payments have gone down. Well, number six, the arse has dropped right out of the tooth market. Okay. It turns out that a winged creature
Starting point is 00:17:02 entering your home at night to take your teeth that have fallen out in this woke age is now more creepy than it is cute. So you're not getting as much. They're not getting as much at the other end for the teeth. Yeah, right. You know? She can't on-sell.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Yeah, right. For nearly what she used to be able to. Number five on the list of the top six reasons the Tooth Fairy payments have gone down. The Tooth Fairy was heavily invested in Bitcoin. And is trying to recoup their losses because they lost a lot. Oh, God. Because those people in the office have gone down. The Tooth Fairy was heavily invested in Bitcoin. And is trying to recoup their losses. Because they lost a lot. Because those people in the office have gone quiet.
Starting point is 00:17:30 They're very quiet. Rossboss had a portfolio of cryptocurrency. He was all about it for a bit there. They were up there with the CrossFitters, the Vegans, the Antivaxxers and the Flat Earthers there for a while with how quick they were to tell you about their thoughts on it.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah, but at least the CrossFitters and the F45ers have got, you know, hot abs and stuff. Something to show for it. Something to show for it. Yeah. No, Ross Boss is just in the negatives now. Yeah. Does he still have that app that tracks them?
Starting point is 00:17:58 I don't think he does. He loves showing you that app. I don't think he does it now, though, does he? Delete the app. He held it and jiggled. He deleted it. He's going to come in here and show us his app now, isn't he? I'd like to see it. Moe's plateaued.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Number four on the list of the top six reasons the Tooth Fairy payments have gone down. The Tooth Fairy is saving some of that money for a bit of nip-tuck. Oh, okay. Off to Thailand soon. T&A used to stand for teeth and... Abscesses. Yes. Good one.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Good for me. She's hoping to change what people talk about when they talk about TNA for the Tooth Fairy. Perfect, just the way she is. She's been around for so long, Megan. How old would she be? Very old. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Very old. Number three on the list of the top six reasons the Tooth Fairy payments have gone down. The Tooth Fairy bit off a bit more than they could chew with the latest mortgage. Right, okay. So the mortgage repayments are quite a bit larger. They didn't kind of take into account any rise in interest rates when they really bit into a big mortgage. Number two on the list of the top six reasons the tooth-free payments have gone down.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Insurance premiums for flying around at night time in the sky is sky high these days. Yeah, right. Excuse the pun. Blame drones. Very dangerous for a fairy to get too close to a drone. They'll go straight through those rotor blades, wreck the drone and do themselves some serious damage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:13 And the number one reason on today's top six reasons that tooth free payments have gone down, the average is going down, but so is the quality of the average tooth. Oh, yeah, right. There's still nice teeth out there that they're paying a top dollar for, but the average quality of tooth has dropped away with all the fizzies. All the sugar.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And the sugary treats. The lollies. And the brushing and the lollies. Yeah. So that's just the market, baby. Yeah. Something to think about. That's yes when you're brushing.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Yeah. Extra hard for extra long. When your gums are bleeding, good work, you're almost there. That is today's top six. Last night, I think I was in the kitchen and I heard on the TV saying Michael Hill, Michael Hill Jewelers boat. And I was like, oh, Michael Hill Jeweler, because I don't know why we just don't call him Michael Hill.
Starting point is 00:19:57 We're Michael Hill Jeweler. I remember when we were growing up, he always used to front his ads on TV. You want a four carat diamond ring, of course you do Michael Hill Jeweler. But now it's a much, like a, you know, it's just his name on it. Yeah. And, you know, it's all fancy-looking ads now. He lives on a golf course in Queenstown, right?
Starting point is 00:20:17 Yeah. Didn't they play the New Zealand Open there this week? Yep, I think they did last week, yeah. He lives in a house on a golf course, and he's got, like, a $3 million violin. He's got lots of toys. Yeah. Stradivarius. He's got like
Starting point is 00:20:29 this legendary violin. He's got a wild collection of sculptures and arts and all sorts of things. Oh, I've just looked up his net worth. $320 million.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Good Lord. I thought it would be more than that. I don't know. Is that not enough? Like, that's a don't know. Well, is that not enough? Like, that's a lot of money for him. No, because isn't our richest man, Graham Hart, he's in the bajillions now. He's surpassed trillions.
Starting point is 00:20:52 He's in the bajillions. Yeah, but don't. You don't compare yourself to other millionaires. Oh, you'll never be happy if you're just comparing how much money you've got to somebody else. You'll never be happy. No. But anyway, Michael. And so they're talking about Michael Hull's getting this boat.
Starting point is 00:21:03 So I was like, this will be nice. Yeah. This will be like, because I quite like, I don't know, as previously said on the show, I'm not a huge fan of boats. Or you get seasick, don't you? I'd have gills if we were meant to be on the water that much. We'd have gills. Or we'd be seals. So if you're a seal and you're listening, sure, you belong there.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Us, not heaps. But I like seeing those occasionally we hear on the news, oh, a Russian billionaire's parked up in Auckland's viaduct and he's getting some work done on his boat. And you go for a look and you're like, that's insane. And it's like a black one and it's got like some round satellite ball thing on top. Yeah, with a helicopter pad and like a boat to escape on that's bigger than any boat I've like been fishing on.
Starting point is 00:21:39 That Google guy had his boat down here for a while too, didn't he? That had a helicopter on the back of it. Yes. Nuts. And a little boat. There were little boats on the big boat. So I'm expecting to go into the lounge and on the TV see Michael Hill Jewellers boat being like Russian, magellaneer, big dog, white, sleek, like something you see on the movies.
Starting point is 00:21:59 I am greeted with something I could only muster the words yuck when I saw it. Is this just you being jealous because he's got a fancy boat? But it looks like it's a navy boat because it's grey like a navy boat. No, I don't know if it's going to be painted, but it's already got the beast written on it because that's what he's called it. It's huge. It's a catamaran. Is it like a frigate? It's like something you'd go to Waiheke on.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Look. Oh, no, that looks like the ferry. Yeah. It looks like a car ferry. It looks very Nordic. It looks like the Norwegians painted it. Did they buy it from Bluebridge? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Looks like he's picked up a second hand. Not as big as an inter-island ferry. More of your little island ferry, like a why hecky. It's way bigger than that because you look, there's a truck for comparison. Oh, yeah. It's big. It's massive. There's the truck than that because you look, there's a truck for comparison. Oh yeah. It's big, it's massive. There's the truck,
Starting point is 00:22:47 just a little truck down there. It's massive, but it's, I mean, it's probably immense and luxurious inside. Well, no,
Starting point is 00:22:55 that's the thing. I haven't seen the pictures of inside and maybe he's doing that thing where, you know, you play it down on the outside because that's his vibe with that house on the golf course.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Right. It's understated. Yeah. He just wants it to look part of the landscape so it doesn't stand out. But then inside, it's pretty intense. But yeah, see, like, look at, there's another, from another angle.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Oh my God, it's huge. Yeah, it's absolutely monstrous. Oh, look at this guy in the foreground. He's got jandals and track pants and his track pants are pulled right up and tucked in. He wasn't expecting to hear the news. Did he design the boat? That would explain why it's grey with
Starting point is 00:23:27 stripes. But yeah, you know, I was just expecting something like more, like, I mean, let's put it this way, Pitbull isn't going to do a music video on this. That's how you want to... No! That's how you want to... From zero to Pitbull, it's...
Starting point is 00:23:43 It's zero. F-E-M. Z-E-M. The Danes have been up to something pretty good. What else have the Danes done? They made the Great Dane, the dog. That was pretty good. Danish pastries. They made Danish pastries,
Starting point is 00:23:54 which some would say are their finest inventions. People from Denmark. Denmark. They did... The Danish. Yeah, yep. The Danish. The people from Denmark.
Starting point is 00:24:04 The Danes. They made Danish pastries. They always The Danish. The people from Denmark. The Danes. They made Danish pastries. They always put a fairly good beach volleyball team forward for the Olympics. I'll always give them that. Copenhagen Cones. Oh, wait. The Little Mermaid. Yep.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Yep. I've seen the statue. You've got a statue in Copenhagen of the Little Mermaid. Do they? The original story of the Little Mermaid. Not the one with the Jamaican crab. Not the Disney one, but the one that's based on the fairy tale. The Danes have done a 650,000 person study.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Now, you've got to be thinking of any study. 650,000 people. That's a very large sample size. Any statistician will say you only need a few until you're going to get the same results regardless, right? This is obviously something you agree with because you're saying it's a large sample size. Because Megan and I could see you climbing up your ladder
Starting point is 00:24:52 to get on that high horse. This has been quantified, whatever it is. So I'm up here. They have studied. This was done between 1999 and 2010. This was all the children born in that time in Denmark and went through to the end of 2013. They were followed.
Starting point is 00:25:14 All of these children were given the MMR vaccine. That is the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine. Okay. And through that study, it has been found that the MMR vaccine did not increase the risk of autism, even within children with other autism risk factors or children whose siblings had autism. There was absolutely no link proven
Starting point is 00:25:37 between the vaccine and autism. And you might be thinking, why does he keep saying that? Because that's the main argument of anti-vaxxers. People who are against the herd immunisation reaching the crucial mark of like, what is it, 97 out of 100 have to be immunised against this before it becomes effective as a herd immunisation. And that's why diseases like measles are rearing their ugly heads
Starting point is 00:26:02 because people are ignoring the science. And I understand people have adverse reactions to vaccines like measles are rearing their ugly heads because people are ignoring the science. And I understand people have adverse reactions to vaccines and you can get tested for that before you've done it. And they can fall into the 3% of people who don't have to be vaccinated. But if your child has no reason not to be vaccinated, including what might be autism risks because it's been disproven,
Starting point is 00:26:21 then get them vaccinated, please. It's timely, this study, because countries like Costa Rica, who used to be measles-free, are now getting measles because people are anti-vaxxing and holidaying and spreading it around again. And even states in America, it's going crazy. And it shouldn't be. Wasn't it Oregon recently or Northern California
Starting point is 00:26:44 that had that massive measles outbreak? Like kids are dying of measles, completely preventable diseases because of this weird anti-vaxxer movement that's going around. You know that the study isn't going to, they're not going to listen to it though. No. It's like Trump supporters and anyone I don't agree with in their bubble. Flat earthers. Or flat earthers online.
Starting point is 00:27:03 They'll just find stuff to back up. You can't argue with them. You watched the flat earthers documentary Behind the Curve, eh? Oh my God. So I thought this was really good and I'm a terrible spokesperson for this angle because I always come out swinging quite hot.
Starting point is 00:27:17 But there was that scientist who talks in there about how telling them they're stupid and believe in stupid things only strengthens people's beliefs. Which is what you do all the time. Crystals, anti-vaxxers. Crystals are bloody stupid. They're just a sparkly rock.
Starting point is 00:27:34 You might as well go onto the side of the road, pick up a handful of gravel and chuck that in your drink bottle. No, the scientists said that, like, you'd be better off looking at yourself and say, well, where have I, like, taken a misstep to, like, give them the information they need?
Starting point is 00:27:47 But it's not my fault they're stupid. No, but instead of coming in hot, you just try and have a conversation and see where they haven't picked up the information they need. I don't think you can have a conversation with people like that. I think it's been proven enough that these people will believe what they want. Yeah. And they will find whatever they want in their group and online to back up their thinking.
Starting point is 00:28:07 With flat earthers, I'm fine with that. But when it comes to anti-vaxxers, your kids are the ones that are suffering with your ignorance. It's affecting other people, isn't it? That's why I don't have a problem if people want to put gravel or crystals or whatever in their drink bottles. It's not hurting me. Who's putting gravel in their drink bottles?
Starting point is 00:28:23 Unless they all take a handful of gravel and then, like, the roads have got big holes in them because they're all grabbing a handful of gravel. But literally the only difference between your magic rock and the rocks that make up the road is how pretty and shiny they are and their organic composite. You know, that's the main difference. There is literally no difference between putting gravel and a shiny rock in your drink bottle, Megan. It's from the earth.
Starting point is 00:28:44 I'm just saying. I'm going to start selling gravel drink bottles. Sitting up there on your high horse and being so arrogant about it. Just let people be. It doesn't hurt anyone. That's a very harmless belief. Excuse me, Megan, that gravel re-energised my morning. I was tired
Starting point is 00:29:00 until that gravel got in me. If that's the way that makes you feel, then all power to you, sweetheart. Somebody just said seven cases of measles in Christchurch, which is really bad. I know the white guy had a really bad time of it. Was it a couple of years ago, 18 months ago? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Somebody said the best part about this study is apparently anti-vaxxers put a lot of money into funding. The study? A part of the study that actually proved them wrong. Really? Oh, that's wonderful. See how... Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Well, hopefully that's kind of shown a few people. Yeah. And somebody said, you effing Muppet, a Great Dane is a German breed of dog, not a Danish breed of dog. Oh, I'm willing to give you that. I didn't really know. I just went with the name Dane.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Out of all the things to argue with you. And somebody else said, you've forgotten the Dane's finest creation, TV star Claire Danes. Which is very true. Oh, and Lego. Oh, and Lego. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Brilliant. Lego. That was the big one. All right. Next on the show, we're talking about your coming of age TV shows. We're going to take us to a trip down memory lane. There might
Starting point is 00:30:08 be some talk of Party of Five or Beverly Hills 90210. Or Roswell? Yeah, I've... We'll talk about this next, but Roswell's not a coming of age TV show. What? Yesterday, after the sad news
Starting point is 00:30:23 hearing that Luke Perry, aka Dylan Mackay from Beverly Hills 902, the original series, had passed away, it was pretty intense because when I was a little kid, I had a poster with all the people from Beverly Hills 902 and on my wall. I don't know how much money they were getting paid per episode at the height, but they were, that was a big TV show.
Starting point is 00:30:45 It was a double punch yesterday for 90s kids, because the guy from Prodigy died as well. Yes, that's right. Sad day. Yeah. So, Beverly Hills 90210, the show that he found major fame on, Luke Perry, and probably better known now as
Starting point is 00:31:01 the KJ Apa's father of... Archie's dad, Riverdale. Riverdale, Riverdale. But I was looking up, I was getting back into the archives of Beverly Hills 90210 and I watched all the intro because it was always like...
Starting point is 00:31:15 It was the most 90s theme tune you could ever have comprehended. But I found a YouTube compilation of all 10 seasons. This was 10 seasons. This was the finish of the year 2000. Started in 1990, went for 10 years. Wow. Most of the cast left, apart from the ones that couldn't find other work.
Starting point is 00:31:37 They just hung around. And so I was looking up. I watched it all. I was like, look at all these faces. And I remembered it. And then I looked up and it said that Beverly Hills 90210 chronicled the character's friendships and romantic relationships, but the show also addressed numerous topical issues
Starting point is 00:31:57 and coming of age issues such as sex, homophobia, animal rights, alcoholism, drug abuse, domestic violence, eating disorders, anti-Semitism, racism, suicide, teenage pregnancy, and HIV AIDS. Wow. And all the big ones. And I remember, like, there were so many episodes that dealt, there was a gun violence one where Brian Austin Green's character, they was playing with some guns with this little blonde dude,
Starting point is 00:32:20 and he got shot. And I was like, ah! And that was why they did it, so you wouldn't fiddle with guns. You'd be like, well, America will sort out their gun violence. Yeah, phew, after that gripping episode of 90210. Lucky they educated the US. Yeah, exactly. And it stopped being a problem then and there.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Yeah. So it got me thinking, it was the first TV show I watched that had adult themes to it, which I guess is what is quintessentially a coming of age TV show. It's that age where it starts dealing with more adult issues like the alcoholism and the drugs and stuff. And you see that for the first time on TV and it kind of, there's an educational aspect to it. Yeah. Well, it's got us talking about those shows because Dawson's Creek. Dawson's Creek was a classic.
Starting point is 00:33:02 That would be another one. Yep. shows because Dawson's Creek. Dawson's Creek was a classic. Dawson's Creek was a real classic coming of age TV drama. So 90210 was my first one but I'd say the big one, probably Party of Five. Yeah, Party of Five was my one. The Salingers, dealing with the fact that their parents died.
Starting point is 00:33:17 How did the parents die? They both died at the same time. Drunk driver. Yes, that's right. And then they went around haphazardly in that open top Jeep which I thought would have been a gate so you would have wanted something with a stable roof if your parents had died in the car accident
Starting point is 00:33:28 to add to a bit of stability to the vehicle. But around they went transporting that little baby around in the Jeep as well. But we want to know this morning on 0800DOLLS.ITM
Starting point is 00:33:40 or you can text 9696 what was your coming of age TV show? The TV show that probably was the first one with adult themes that you'd watched that maybe taught you a text 9696. What was your coming-of-age TV show? The TV show that probably was the first one with adult themes that you'd watched that maybe taught you a thing or two. Yeah, and how into it did you get?
Starting point is 00:33:50 Because a lot of them are well-known for their music as well. Yes. Because I loved Roswell and Dido was the theme song of that. And I know it was about aliens, but there was love scenes and stuff. If you're not familiar with the TV show Roswell, three aliens land at Roswell. And Catherine Heigl was one of them. They take on teenagers' bodies, right?
Starting point is 00:34:10 Yeah. And they all had, like, superpowers. Jason Beer, Brendan Fair and Catherine Heigl. Catherine Heigl. Which one could read a CD by holding it up to their ear? Was that Catherine Heigl? I think it was. Like, the lamest of the superpowers,
Starting point is 00:34:24 because the other dude could, like, heal you if you were dead. Yeah. Oh Heigl? I think it was. Like the lamest of the Super Bowls because the other dude could like heal you if you were dead. Yeah. Oh my God, it's so good. But yeah, it dealt with like teenage stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:30 There was like drugs and violence and gun violence. People hated aliens so that kind of reflected racism a bit. Alright, so 0800 DALES
Starting point is 00:34:38 at M9696. What was that TV show that you couldn't get enough of growing up? Your coming of age TV show. Your coming of age TV show that taught you a little bit about life. And how into it did you get?
Starting point is 00:34:49 We're talking about your coming-of-age TV show, so shows, maybe they taught you something. Yeah. Yeah. So some text messages in on the subject. Somebody said home improvement. Okay. While it was a little bit of a laugh with her.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Tim the Tall Man Taylor. I learnt nothing about home improvements. But that was the double meaning of the show, eh? Yeah. Because he was a builder who could do renovations that always went wrong, but he was also, he was learning. He was learning life as a father of three boys. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And then Wilson over the fence always had some great. Yeah. That taught me about love because Jonathan Taylor Thomas was on it. And you were in love with him. Yeah. It taught me if you get a builder, you've got to get one that's got the registered master seal of approval. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Some other... This is actually a good point. The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air was a big comedy, but there were some episodes that were intense. Like, oh my God, what about the episode where Will's dad comes back, but then Will's dad takes off and Uncle Phil's there to comfort him.
Starting point is 00:35:52 And he's like, why doesn't he? Oh, just thinking about it, I've got goosebumps. And then there was the episode where Carlton got shot and he wanted to get a gun and Will was talking about getting a gun. Alex, what was your coming of age TV show? The OC. Oh, yeah. A classic. California. Yeah. Alex, what was your coming-of-age TV show? The O.C. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:05 A classic. California. Yeah. California. God, that was a great soundtrack. The soundtracks for those, it was like, when they're like five or six, and then they were always so good.
Starting point is 00:36:15 So good. So good. And honestly, I hear that, you know, that piano at the beginning of that song, and I could cry. Oh, don't get me started. It's too much. What was the big learning moment from the OC?
Starting point is 00:36:30 What was something the OC taught you about? Well, there were a few things. The main one is how badly I wanted a Range Rover. I was hoping for something about acceptance and everything. Well, no. Well, I mean, like, acceptance and everything. Well, no. Well, I mean, it was a Range Rover. It was a Motorola flip-top phone. And it was that I wanted a pool house and I wanted to stay somewhere from Dale and have them live in it.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Hey, Alex. Oh, stop. This is such a... Misha, no! I've got goosebumps. Thanks, you caught Alex. Some text messages. Somebody said, Felicity, the show with Kerry Russell.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Not only was her hair amazing, moody music, and it taught me a lot about life. Felicity was out there in the world. Yeah. Megan, you'll be pleased to know there's a new version of Roswell.
Starting point is 00:37:29 It's on TVNZ On Demand. You must try it out. Are you kidding me? It's the same storyline but has today's spin on it. Oh, okay. How did I not hear for it? No one hear about that.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Don't know. Don't know. Someone said One Tree Hill. One Tree Hill was a show that was my coming of age show taught me a lot about life and uh it was one of the reasons i tried to play basketball even though i couldn't cute um intern anya you've got a couple yeah um kim possible and the animated show possible come and beat me if you want to reach me.
Starting point is 00:38:07 These aren't coming of age TV shows. These are just cartoons you watch. Well, they are. Because Kim Possible taught me about how to be a spy, in case I ever need that, in my career. And then wild thornberries taught me about animals and how to talk to them. It's got to be more of a drama. Surely you were into some dramas.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Yeah, The Weekenders, That's So Raven. All of these are animated. Now, I've got no problem with animated TV shows, but none of these are coming of age. Corey in the House. What?
Starting point is 00:38:32 Oh, my God. Okay. I feel you need an OC box set weekend. Oh, you do. You need to sit yourself down with Adam Brody and the guy
Starting point is 00:38:43 that's on Gotham now and have a real session. Tinder is to blame for you not having a house. There's a new report that says Tinder and Bumble and other dating apps has changed the way that young people date and therefore they're settling down when they're older. So they're not settling down when they're like, you know, our parents were like 20 something, 24, 25. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:06 So having three kids, a mortgage by the time you're 25 doesn't happen anymore. But also houses are insanely more expensive than they were then. So you have to find a person to spend your life with. Yeah. And then three other people to buy a house collectively. But yeah, that's exactly it. So you need often two people, the income of two people and people want to buy a house sometimes
Starting point is 00:39:31 when you're in like a committed relationship. And because of Tinder and Bumble... I buy it and it's better to buy a house when you're in a committed relationship rather than with a one-night stand. No, I'm thinking of... There's lots of friends who buy houses together now. That was good.
Starting point is 00:39:45 How about we enjoy a cigarette and go to a bar foots auction? But wouldn't it be weird, like, if you bought with friends, because then, like, if they go down a different path, or they want out, like, they find someone. Yeah. Like, what are they meant to, you've got to have a sudden you're living with a couple. You've got to have a pretty good agreement.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Yeah. That, you know, because, yeah, got to have a sudden you're living with a couple. You've got to have a pretty good agreement. Yeah. That, you know... Because, yeah, this happened to a mate of mine. He bought a house with a friend, but then the friend got a serious partner and then they wanted to buy a house together, so they had to sell the house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:15 And then they took their halves and went and tried to buy another house. Yeah. Individually. So, basically, Gen Ys and Millennials are just settling down much later and the cost is so great, they need to find themselves someone
Starting point is 00:40:26 to put the deposit on the house and it's not happening till in their 30s now. There's a report that like, we probably won't be able to pay it off, right? As well. Yeah, yeah. Because we're getting mortgages so much later. Later and bigger.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Yeah. I mean, the best thing you could hope for is just going out like the notebook so you're not leaving the other one with the mortgage. What happens to the mortgage? But like much younger than the notebook because you probably
Starting point is 00:40:49 stop working when you're 70 and those people are like in their late 80s so you don't want to be hanging around until then. I'm thinking when your KiwiSaver runs out. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yeah. Double notebook it. It's like a notebook with pillows over the face. Oh, come on. How tiny. End me.
Starting point is 00:41:07 But if you do that to your partner, what happens to you? Well, you've got to do it to yourself. That's the hard part. Because when you go unconscious, you let go of the pillow. I've changed my mind. Oh, but then you're stuck with the mortgage. Back to the pillow. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:22 FBM. Now, mums do this All the time Mix up names And it's always In a quick Like Scott John Carl
Starting point is 00:41:31 It was always During a telling off Yeah I was trying to think My mum hasn't done it For a while But it's probably Because she hasn't
Starting point is 00:41:36 Told us off for a while Producer Caitlin Does this all the time And again It's probably When she's telling us Yes because I always Have to tell you off
Starting point is 00:41:44 Like ah Fletcher for me boy. I go through everyone's name before I get to you. Well, science has worked out what this means. And Caitlin, is there something you want to tell us? You're annoying. You love us.
Starting point is 00:41:59 What? Is that what it means? You love us. Really? I don't love you. You and Aroha with us. Oh. Kia ora to Aroha. Okay, like, I like you guys as friends. You really like us. Well, it must be more than that, Caitlin,
Starting point is 00:42:16 because science has shown that mums mostly do this. They muddle up names because they love them. Oh, please. So you just scroll through things you love when you're... Well, yeah, so the misnaming tends to happen with people you have an equally close relationship with. They studied 1,700 people through five studies. Most of those who had called someone by the wrong names were mums,
Starting point is 00:42:43 and the mix-ups included all people they loved. Overall, the misnaming of familiar individuals is driven by the relationship between the misnamer, misnamed, and named. Because I was calling my brother-in-law Fletch in the weekend by mistake. Oh, you must love him as well. And you put Ross in there too. I know! So it all has to do with the way that our brains organise information.
Starting point is 00:43:07 And so they store the names away. This organisational system is known as the semantic network. And in a nutshell, it keeps the names of all the people you love. Cute. In a shelf. Like your kids. Yeah. Or names or people you love.
Starting point is 00:43:20 What about dogs? Because someone said my mum will even chuck a dog's name in there. That means she loves the dogs. So it stores all the names there and in the same place. So when you're trying to quickly grab a name, like when you're telling someone off or you're in a hurry. You're trying to grab it off the shelf and you're floundering. And you end up going through all the names that you love
Starting point is 00:43:39 and all the names that are there. Is that going to happen with your boyfriend? Oh, my God. You'll know that I'm in love when I say his name to you guys. I'm not in love yet. Have you accidentally said his name out loud
Starting point is 00:43:53 to either of us or your brother? No, I haven't. I haven't, Ross! Get out! You do say Ross Boss's name quite a bit. I know! That even sounded creepy because you heard that dual squeak open. Squeak.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Hello. You said my name. But when you're talking to your boyfriend, have you ever said our names? Oh, probably. I always do. But doesn't that mean that... You're just at the tip of my tongue because you annoy me and you're always there. But you love us.
Starting point is 00:44:22 But doesn't that make sense? Yeah. Like that totally explains it, doesn't it? Cute. Yeah. And so, I mean, if your mum's not accidentally saying your brother's name to you, you're not the favourite and she doesn't love you. I don't know how to break that to you.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I just did. Imagine if someone's mum's never got the names muddled up. Stephen. Nailed it. Craig. Nailed it. Like, mum, I don't have a brother called Stephen or Craig. Or that you know of.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Am I a bad person? All right, it's time for Am I a Bad Person? We get our judgy pants on. Yep. This is kind of a situation that somebody brings up and they're saying, am I a bad person for thinking or doing the following? And then you guys get to kind of decide if they are or not.
Starting point is 00:45:05 This is, yeah. This is a really interesting one. Now, this person wants to remain anonymous. This email came in at 12.45 a.m. Now, I know that because I saw it, but also it's mentioned in the email. Shall we begin? Yes. Dear Fletch von Amigen, am I a bad person? My boyfriend of four years keeps going out with his mates
Starting point is 00:45:24 and staying the night. And the past week, he stayed over at his mate's house over the weekend and now tonight, bracket, Monday night. Close brackets.
Starting point is 00:45:34 He doesn't understand why I get shitty with him for not letting me know when he isn't coming home. I don't want to be this controlling girlfriend, but at the same time, I can't sleep well
Starting point is 00:45:42 when he's not here. We're currently living in a holiday park, which is generally safe, but I still feel uncomfortable being here on my own. I know he isn't doing the dirty before people start coming to conclusions that he is. She doesn't go into how she's done. How does she know? Because instantly I'm like, this is a red flag.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Yeah. If someone of four years is all of a sudden changing some habits. Yeah. Big habits changes. Might have been happening for a little bit, but maybe they weren't living in the caravan park, the holiday park, so it didn't bother them. I've spoken to him about letting me know if he's not coming home,
Starting point is 00:46:12 which he is bad at telling me, so I'm up to stupid o'clock waiting for him to whether or not he's going to come home or message me. Hence this 12.45 a.m. message. When nothing happens, of course I get worried. Then I feel like a dick when I ask his mates where he is when I text message or call them at an ungodly hour.
Starting point is 00:46:30 The thing that really gets me is that he goes to the gym and when he's on his way back, he'll message saying, I'm on my way home but I don't care if he's coming back from the gym in the daylight hours because he's usually only gone for a couple of hours. He does go hunting a lot and obviously I know there's no reception in a lot of areas
Starting point is 00:46:45 that he goes hunting in, but when he's out with his mates, maple leaf. But that's what you use. Yeah, yeah. To indicate a bit of marijuana usage, right? Like they smoke a bit of weed when he's out with his mates. And I know he can contact me, and I know he can contact me, and it makes me really emotional that he can't see why I hate him staying out the night. Right. So there, she's asking, am I a bad person for what worrying or asking
Starting point is 00:47:12 this question? For wanting him to, it's as simple as she just wants him to let her know where she is the whole time. See it's not the whole time even, just if he's not going to be home. It's red flags for me. She said, how can she be sure he's not cheating? What, just because you've been with someone for four years? Isn't that when someone would? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:32 I wrote down pointers. Okay. Because that whole time I was like, shook. You were taking notes. Because, have you guys finished Dear John, Dirty John yet on Netflix? Because I want one of, I'd get one of those car trackers that they used. That's why I'm so like on edge about this. Yeah. Because Dirty John. I know, you can't Netflix? Because I'd get one of those car trackers that they used. Maybe that's why I'm so on edge about this, because Dirty John is...
Starting point is 00:47:48 I know, you can't trust anyone. You chuck it on his car and he is where you think he is, but you don't know what he's doing there. Then, yeah, you've wasted all that money on a car tracker. That's what you're saying, isn't it? Why, first of all, is he staying with his mates all the time? All the time. That's excessive.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Two, why is he jumping straight to the defensive when you ask about him and it's from genuine concern but he's straight away defensive. Isn't that like a red flag? She isn't a bad person because she's it comes from genuine worry. Like, when he's telling her where she is,
Starting point is 00:48:19 where he is, she's fine with it but she's genuinely concerned for where he is. And if he's telling you about the gym but he's not telling you when he's fine with it, but she's genuinely concerned for where he is. And if he's telling you about the gym, but he's not telling you when he's out with his mates, doesn't that indicate that he's lying? He's got something to hide? You don't stay at your mate's house that
Starting point is 00:48:35 often, do you? That often, no. Let's be honest. No. You'd rather go to your own bed. I mean, even if you're living in a caravan park and you're between flats or whatever. And like if it's the weekend and there's drinks involved or whatever, but like Monday night?
Starting point is 00:48:48 Yeah, nah. Monday night? That's the other... Unless you're getting on it on Monday night and you don't want to drive home. But that's it. But what is it?
Starting point is 00:48:57 Is there a job? But like straight away he's turning... When you're guilty like that, straight away you'd turn around and try and make her feel bad. Oh, you've been controlling. Oh, like, get off my back kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Instead of actually explaining what the hell he's doing. I don't think anyone is going to think she's a bad person. At all. Look at all three of us have got our arms crossed. I know. Why have we all got our arms crossed? Because we're pissed off. We're humping.
Starting point is 00:49:22 We're coming on hot. It's not good enough. George. I just gave him a name. George. Something's up, though. I know. It's not good enough. George. I just gave him a name. George. Something's up though. Something's up to me. This is red flag.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Because she seems quite convinced that he's not doing anything. But she hasn't given us a reason why she knows that he's not. Okay. Well, I think we need to take some calls and texts now. Firstly, is she a bad person? Yes or no. And then have you been in the situation? And, you know, how did you get through it?
Starting point is 00:49:47 Because it could be as innocent as, he just wants to hang out with his mates. Yeah, but don't be useless. Like, that's how somebody messaged in. Guys are useless. And when they're with the lads, they're even more useless. Well, you've got to think about your partner. You're in a relationship now, grow up.
Starting point is 00:50:01 And you know this after four years? Yeah, and you're living with them. So, okay, well, let us know. 0800DAR relationship now, grow up. And you know this after four years? Yeah, and you're living with them. So, okay, well let us know. 0800 DALES.M 9696. Maybe you've been in this situation, you've got some advice. We're getting a lot of messages in. Some stellar messages coming in. Alright, we'll get to those next. Am I a bad person?
Starting point is 00:50:18 So, just a quick recap. We have received a message from an anonymous listener. This came at like one in the morning. A lot of worry going on. And we need you to tell us if she is a bad person or not. And then some feedback on the situation. Previously on Am I a Bad Person? My boyfriend of four years is going out, staying at mates' houses a lot.
Starting point is 00:50:38 He does it most weekends. He says he's going hunting. I've got no reason to believe he's not cheating on me. He is cheating on her. But even if he's not cheating on her with another woman, he's cheating on her by treating her this poorly and making her worry so badly. But she doesn't think so.
Starting point is 00:50:52 So, I mean, maybe he's not and he is just out with the lads. Yeah, and there's a stoner. She doesn't go as far to saying he's a stoner, but we'll read between the lines. Your emoji is used. All right, let's go to Hayley first. Do you think he's a bad person, Hayley? I definitely don't think she's a bad person.
Starting point is 00:51:10 I've been in a very, very similar situation and it didn't end out that great. So what happened in your situation then? So I was with my boyfriend for seven years. Okay. And same sort of thing. We were living together and he was spending every night with his mates and not messaging me. Exactly the same situation.
Starting point is 00:51:35 It got to the point that I was really lonely and just over it. So I actually ended up cheating on him, which is not something that I'm proud of. Yeah. But the next day I told him, fronted up to it, and then it came out of the woodworks that the whole time that we were together, he was doing that to me. Oh, wow. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Multiple different people. So was there a point where his behaviour changed? I'm begging. Was there a point where his habits changed? Was there a point where his habits changed? Like he was with you every night, then all of a sudden he wasn't? Right, and that's when it started. That's why it's a red flag to me. Like you're with someone every night, and then all of a sudden you're not?
Starting point is 00:52:18 And you're with your friends? It's like, well, you weren't before. Yeah. Yeah, and you're cuddly and affectionate, and then all of a sudden you're not, and you don't want to have anything to do with that person. Well, no word on the cuddle situation from this email. Hayley, thanks for your call, Hayley.
Starting point is 00:52:35 And for a guy's perspective, Matt, do you think they're a bad person? No, she is not. He's a douche. And I tell you what, if he's not cheating on her, he's teeing it up. He's getting it lined up. he's getting it lined up he's getting it lined up because that's how somebody said
Starting point is 00:52:48 they've been the jerk in this sort of situation where they wouldn't contact their partner but they were just too weak and didn't know how to break up with them
Starting point is 00:52:55 and they said looking back on it now they really regret not being honest with them sooner but were just young immature and didn't know how to handle themselves
Starting point is 00:53:02 we've all been like that I'm sure I've been like that, I'm sure. Well, I've been like that. I give the old, I've got the message, you know, and then just come home, say I'll be home at 10 and then get home at 10 in the morning. Get the wrong 10. I said 10. Thank you for your honesty. I said 10. It's a technicality,
Starting point is 00:53:18 Your Honour. Yeah. Matt, thanks for your call. Bex, is she a bad person? Oh, no. She's a good person that needs to go with her gut and get rid of him. Yeah. I think a lot of people are swaying towards there's something up here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Look, woman's intuition, you know, you just know. You know something's dodgy. And, yeah, I mean, it's happened to me before. And I ended up going to my boyfriend's house. You know, he invited me there. I was going to meet him there. He was late. The phone rang, his landline, and it was a girl asking for him.
Starting point is 00:53:50 And so I just said, oh, in what capacity do you know my boyfriend? And she just went, oh. That's just incredible that someone would pay for a landline in this day and age. That's what's more. Oh, look. I know this sounds sweet and young, but this was 20 years ago. Oh, right. I was going to say,
Starting point is 00:54:07 you want to steal him out of the house, but you're on a limited cord. You're like... But yeah, I think there's definitely some red flags here. Yeah. I would be straight
Starting point is 00:54:15 in the Toyota Corolla going around to the mate's house to stalk it out. But how... This is hilarious that she's written in for am I a bad person? When he's the bad person.
Starting point is 00:54:24 We're questioning his morals. Somebody said they heard of a situation exactly like this and they were also living somewhere cheap, in this case, holiday part, because they were leading a double life. So, so much of their money was being spent on the other person. And if he's away for like nights at a time, that might just be when he can tell this other person
Starting point is 00:54:43 that he's got free time, that he's not working. Oh, I'd be getting a car tracker. I'd be following his car. You've got to do some investigation. Put your mind at rest. Somebody said, does this guy not shower? And I replied, why does that matter? And they said, well, his phone will be unattended
Starting point is 00:55:01 when he's in his shower. I assume everybody's having a peak. And somebody said that they had a partner Well, his phone will be unattended when he's in his shower. I assume everybody's having a peak. Really good. And somebody said that they had a partner that would do this, disappear for long stretches of time, and say they were doing things where there was no reception. Yeah. Fishing, hunting, et cetera,
Starting point is 00:55:17 but they were getting themselves involved in some very hard drugs. Oh, wow. Okay. And they had to be away for that time so they could come back straight. Yeah, there's a few people who have said it sounds really sketchy as to why he's away for that long. She needs to call the people who he always sees he's with. Call them
Starting point is 00:55:32 when he sees he's with them. And see if he's there. But they're his mates, so he's probably fed them the line to defend him. God, you'd have to have some pretty good mates to do that. You are not a bad person. No, definitely not. And please update us because I really need to know what happens. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Today's fact of the day is about the price. You know how silver is now like a more expensive metal than gold? Like pure silver. I didn't know that. It's worth more than gold, yeah. Sometimes they show that on the news with the pointy up or down arrow. They're like, gold is up, blah, blah, blah. Pure silver is worth more.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Because I was always a silver girl because it's cheaper. You know? You find like earrings and stuff and it's like expensive and gold and cheaper. Diluted. Oh okay sweet.
Starting point is 00:56:32 That's still going to be cheap. That mixed with aluminium. Plastic. He mixed with old coke cans. Yeah yeah yeah. Just turned inside out so you can't see the coke label. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:41 And then glowed together. Sweet. Just like sprayed with a silver spray paint. So the thing about silver though it is $538 for a kg of silver. Okay. But
Starting point is 00:56:53 the, that doesn't seem right does it? That's pretty cheap. I could buy a kg. Are you missing a zero? You were telling us the 500 and something bucks for a kg. I could buy a kg of silver if I put mine to it. I don't know what I'd do with it. Very expensive doorstop.
Starting point is 00:57:09 I could chip a little bit off, put it on my teeth. Buy a KG and get some jewellery made. Silver prices today, according to Google, $487 for a kilo. That's in US. No, that's New Zealand. Well, I've got... Well, this fact isn't going to stand up, is it? Because it's a...
Starting point is 00:57:24 Actually, it still does. It still does. My fact previous about it being more expensive than gold doesn't. Because how much is gold, KG? Heaps. Pure gold. Heaps. Oh, New Zealand dollar is $739.
Starting point is 00:57:35 So that was a Google.com. Oh, right. But still, gold worth more than silver. Who to guess? Everyone that's ever seen the Olympics won. Yeah, okay. No, fair call. Fair call.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Every single person would have put gold above silver. I don't know. What'd you go wrong with that for? One kilogram of gold is worth $61,000. Is that all? Yeah. Is this your fact of the day, that silver's worth $1,000? No, no, no, it's not to do with silver and gold,
Starting point is 00:57:58 but I was miles out with that. So the actual fact of the day is that per kg, vanilla is more expensive than silver. Is that from vanilla pods? Yeah, legit vanilla, not vanilla essence. Vanilla essence. Extract. I know, because, you know, one time I was in the supermarket
Starting point is 00:58:15 or somewhere and I splashed out for a real nice vanilla essence. Yeah. Extract, not essence. Yeah. Because essence is the ones they get from the beavers. The beavers. Wait, are they still doing that? Is vanilla essence still from beavers' butts?
Starting point is 00:58:29 Oh, no, they can use vanilla flavouring. They can use the, I mean, this has been a previous fact of the day, but if you didn't hear it, the anal gland of the beaver can be used to produce a vanilla-esque flavour. Yeah. And it has been used previously. But we haven't got there yet, have we? So next time you're tucking into a nice vanilla ice cream you could just
Starting point is 00:58:46 be licking a very cold beaver's anus. Just keep that in mind. This is why I don't do vanilla. That's how you steer away from Hokey Pokey because they flashed it up. It's worth that extra few dollars for the real deal. The price of vanilla US dollars $515. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Per kg. Per kg. Yeah. So vanilla had a record high lately because of global warming. Vanillas were getting harder to grow in traditional vanilla areas because not only is it harder to grow, but also they get hit by bigger storms that wipe out entire crops of vanilla. Well, there's a news headline that came up underneath this price saying the bittersweet cost of Madagascar's vanilla boom. Because they had to cut down a lot of forest in Madagascar to put the vanilla in.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Oh my God, they still use beavers. It's called castoreum, and it's used in raspberry and strawberry too. So that's my favourite ice cream down the drain. They don't, Megan, they're not tip-top aren't squeezing beaver anus glands into ice cream. They're still using it. To this day, Fletch. No. I just did a Google and it never lies to me.
Starting point is 00:59:53 It's all chemical flavouring. But don't worry, they're only doing it to the beavers that like it. They ask them first. You can tell by the look on their face. Well, look at my face. Or like, ooh, hello And I show my beaver teeth And that beaver goes through
Starting point is 01:00:09 And the beaver's like, I'll hang around But a wood to chew, you can take as much as you want But vanilla essence is what, watered down? So it's cheaper? The essence of vanilla, no It's chemicals to make it taste like vanilla It's vanilla extract, that's the legit Oh right, okay Yeah, because I was making something to make it taste like vanilla. It's vanilla extract that's the legit. Oh, right, okay.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Yeah, because I was making something once, and it was like, do not use vanilla essence. And I was like, oh, and I hadn't even thought about it. And I went to the supermarket, and I was like, I shall be using vanilla essence. Have you seen how expensive that is? Yeah, because it's... And that's why, because vanilla per kg
Starting point is 01:00:38 is more expensive than silver. And that's today's fact of the day. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Hey, the TripAdvisor list of this is the traveller's choice category. This is beaches. Okay. New Zealand has done okay. Because this is the thing
Starting point is 01:01:08 we're only really talking about the top 10 New Zealand beaches, but like worldwide, I went down to like 40 and I didn't find any of our beaches. Really? But we have so many. But then I saw like the top 20 were amazing.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Oh, yeah. I've been to a couple that always make like... Oh, okay. I've been to a couple that always make, like, Okay. I've been to a couple that always make it on the list. But they are incredible. But then, And the weather never gets cold.
Starting point is 01:01:31 These are year-round beaches, whereas, I mean, you can surf at the number one New Zealand beach, but it's cold. Yeah, but then,
Starting point is 01:01:38 I'd be like, Like, I might be a bit, like, biased, but Kaiteri is like, that bay is just so beautiful.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Oh, that's very beautiful. Gold sand. It's just, it's so incredible. Yeah. Well, the top 10 New Zealand beaches have been announced. The number one,
Starting point is 01:01:54 do you want me to do that thing where I start like 10 and go? I was about to say, do you know how lists work? 90 mile beach. 90 mile beach is number 10. Okay. Never been there.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Never swam. See people driving down it. That'd be enough to put me off. It's not 90 miles. The sandboarding is pretty cool. Is it not 90 miles? It's only like 45. I think it was just a guess.
Starting point is 01:02:10 It's misleading. Yeah, it was a guess back in the day. Oriental Bay in Wellington is number nine. Can't beat Wellington on a good day. It's a beautiful beach, but it's like Mission Bay in Auckland. They pump that sand in, don't they? The lovely sand. Am I correct in saying that?
Starting point is 01:02:24 Well, I hope you are, or they'll have you for slander. I'm going to Google. That's like a city beach though. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's the positive of it, I guess. It's lovely. It's close to everything.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Before you accuse me, it's lovely. Pilot Bay in Mount Maunganui. Do you have something to say, Fetch? I found an article. Yes. Sorry, I just subtly interrupted there. I found a stuff article dated June 16, 2015, and it's entitled, Oriental Bay Gets a Fresh Batch of Sand.
Starting point is 01:02:56 How often are they getting a batch of sand? Are they due for another one? I don't know. It was shipped from Aquarian Dunedin. What? And it cost $400,000. Your sand's got a lot there. Is it white?
Starting point is 01:03:09 It's a nice sand. It's a lovely sand to oriental. Doesn't it have like bits of stones in it? When you say quarry, I always just assume like big dump trucks and stuff. Yeah, right. Okay, that's nice. Our number eight is Pilot Bay in Mount Monganoo. That's the harbour side.
Starting point is 01:03:24 That's go down by the boat ramp there under the mount. That's where, I don't know if they still do, but the hot water used to come out from the hot pools and you could sit on that. It was like the warmest part of the beach. Yeah. Sit on the outlet. Kaiteri Beach. Kaiteri Tere Beach is number seven.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Not high enough. On the list. No, it's not. Whangamata Beach is number six on the list of the top ten New Zealand beaches. That's a great beach. Great beach, but ten New Zealand beaches. That's a great beach. Great beach, but Kainteri's better. That's a beautiful beach. Number five.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Now, this is a very, very, very contentious. Okay. Ohope Beach. I used to holiday there as a kid. The beach is crazy. It goes deep real quick. And one time when we were there, someone saw a shark. And I have not swam there since.
Starting point is 01:04:03 It's a beautiful spot, though. Is it? I don't think I've been since. It's a beautiful spot, though. Is it? I've never been there. It's so dangerous. It goes deep real quick. And we don't broadcast a fuck a ton, so have at. It's a shit house. It's rubbish.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Number four, Papamoa Beach. Beautiful beach. Beautiful. Is it better than Kaiteri? I think so. It's got the nudist part. That you always used to try to find as a kid. You're like,
Starting point is 01:04:28 let's just keep walking. They said there was a nudist beach down here, but I just think it was what your parents told you to get rid of for an hour. Well, you don't have to drive far out from Kiteri to get to a nudist. To get to a nudist beach, yeah. And in your mind, the nudist beach is always going to be
Starting point is 01:04:37 like real hot people, but then you get there and it's some old saggy balls. Hey, it's my parents. It's Megan's parents. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I meant that in a nice way. You haven't seen Dad's balls.
Starting point is 01:04:47 You don't know? Well, you obviously have, so what are they like? This is actually TripAdvisor. They've got their own review. Warren's balls. Papamo Beach, number four, beautiful beach. We used to go shellfish, go for a little, some pippies off there. Oh, good times, good times.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Hot Water Beach, isn't it number three? Yeah. That can be a dangerous beach with the old rips there. And also people dig a hole and then just jump right in and it's like scorching hot and they catch on fire. But I can see why because it's TripAdvisor. So these are your most popular. And like that's unique.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Yeah, that is. Number two in New Zealand, the top ten beaches, Piha Beach. No. Piha Beach is lovely. It's rugged. It's that west coast rugged beach and it's the only like real rugged beach that makes an appearance on the list. Black sand sucks. I don't care what anyone says. That just burns.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Black sand burns your feet all the time. No, not down for it. And it's rough. It's very dangerous. Yeah, that's my problem with it. Literally, so all the reviews are like, the other one so far, gem of for it. And it's rough. It's very dangerous. Yeah, that's my problem with it. Literally, so all the reviews are like, the other ones so far, gem of a beach, wonderful place to go with the kids,
Starting point is 01:05:51 awesome beach to catch some waves, one of two of New Zealand's best beaches. These are all like the reviews. The Piha review is, I swam, please be careful. Yeah, it's not a glowing review, is it? No. And the number one beach
Starting point is 01:06:06 In New Zealand If you're kind of A bit of a beach If you're working it out There's only one left The Mount Maunganui Main beach It is
Starting point is 01:06:11 It's always up there Isn't it It's beautiful It's so good Especially that view When you climb the mount Looking down Yeah
Starting point is 01:06:17 Get a gram You should definitely Take a photo Because I've never seen What it looks like From the top On Instagram Never
Starting point is 01:06:22 No Like if you've walked All the way up there, guys, you take a photo to show everybody that you accomplished it. You took a photo up there? Yeah, no, but I only put it on story. It's me. I didn't make it in post.
Starting point is 01:06:33 There's a big difference. Do you have the top beach in the world? You said there was like a global list. I have top ten beaches in the world. The number one beach to try to get to is Baia do Sancho. It's in Brazil. As you walk through a small trail, you can't imagine what awaits you. The heavenly view
Starting point is 01:06:51 seems like a mirage. That's the number one beach in the world. What about the one in Coromandel? That beach where you walk to? Is it Coromandel Cove? The one you walk to and it's got the archway that you're not supposed to walk under anymore. Cathedral Cove. Cathedral Cove. Oh, Moanimana. The one you walk to and it's got the archway that you're not supposed to walk under anymore.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Cathedral Cove. Cathedral Cove. That's beautiful. Yeah, but does that have a hot Brazilian? Yeah, I was going to say it's lacking one thing. Boazilians.
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