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Thanks, Anya. Good morning. Welcome to the show.
Fletch, Vaughan and Megan.
Do you think when M&M was here at the weekend, he was like,
what's happening with this? Where's my money?
Yeah, let's get this moving. National party? Where's my money? Yeah, let's get this moving.
National Party?
Where's my money?
Chasing them dollar bills.
Probably doesn't even know,
to be honest.
Probably doesn't know.
I think 45,000 people,
however many went in Wellington,
paying as much as they did.
He's okay for cash.
He's okay for cash.
He is.
It's not like he needed
the National Party
to come to the party
with some money
so he could refuel his private jet to get the F out of here.
So he's probably okay.
Now, big day, Game of Thrones trailer has dropped while you were sleeping
and it's available to watch right now online.
Megan and I had a little watch before you got here.
You weren't allowed to.
And now I've not been allowed to until I'm just about to right now.
That's good.
Because you can't concentrate.
It's your wee treat after you've done your work.
I need a coffee, though.
How long is this?
One minute 52?
And it finishes and you go, ooh.
Ooh.
Yeah.
And then you're like, hurry up, April 15th.
You're doing a light rewatch of the last season?
I feel like I need to.
That's what made me think maybe I should maybe start,
go two seasons back,
because the last few seasons haven't been that many eps,
have they?
No, no, they've been shorter eps and insanely massive battle scenes.
Watch a couple a night maybe just to get kind of refreshed and up to date.
Yeah.
Because even now as a bit of a veteran, I still get a bit lost with characters and where people are.
The rewatch from the start was the greatest thing I ever did.
Right.
Because I knew who the Bolton guy was.
Don't worry, Kate, I'm not spoiling anything.
The Bolton guy was from the start.
Right.
When he popped up, I'm like, that's what he does.
That's who he is.
Right.
All the connections.
It's too late to start from the start now.
It's never too late.
All right.
The top six is coming up on the show.
Yeah, the Tooth Fairy's average payout has been dropping lately.
This is US Tooth Fairy statistics, and it's one tooth fairy.
It's a Ponteira payout, eh?
Yeah, bloody firm game.
Bloody milk prices.
Milk prices.
Am I right?
Some banter for the farmers this morning.
Did I do good?
Well, yeah.
They're up.
They're milking.
Oh, they're up.
Yeah, they're up.
The milking cows.
The payments are up.
No, the farmers are up.
Oh, yeah, right.
Okay.
We've got to get up.
Even if the payments are down, you've got to get up to get down.
Okay.
Go get a coffee.
All right, you lot.
Listen up.
It's story time.
All right, I've found three news stories.
I'll give you three news headlines.
Vaughan and Megan, you've got to pick one of the following three.
Headline one, happy Ikea Easter.
Headline two, college goes to pot.
And headline three, billboard goes the extra mile.
Oh.
Mmm.
I think I like the sound
of the first one. And you had this smug little
look on your face when you said it.
Happy Ikea restart. I don't know why I had that smug.
Are you really down this one?
No, it's just that.
It's just my look. What was the other?
School goes to pot, did you say?
College goes to pot.
College goes to pot.
So like uni.
Pot as in marijuana.
They're growing it there?
Well, it's legal in a lot of states now.
And what was the last one?
Billboard.
Billboard goes the extra mile.
Well, I don't know, Bourne.
Oh, Ikea Easter is going to be something in the Ikea catalogue that's very Easter themed.
Can you buy like an Easter basket?
No.
That's silly. Why would you do that? Oh Easter themed. Can you buy like an Easter basket? No. That's silly.
Why would you do that?
Hey, don't Google.
What are you doing?
Oh, no, I don't think that's it.
Is it?
In Canada, they're using students
to help with the pot industry?
No.
No.
I go,
I go,
well,
they're all good.
The billboard,
I don't understand at all
how a billboard
goes the extra mile.
Okay,
so do you want that one?
Um,
yes.
No,
see,
it was the outsider for me.
It was not even on the,
on the board,
but then you just said
you want that one
and now I'm,
yes.
You do want that one.
You do want that one.
Megan,
are you happy?
Yeah.
Billboard goes the extra mile.
All right, well, you may have heard
just in the last couple of days
there was a horrific tornado.
There have been tornadoes in the Midwest.
Yeah, tornado season and tornado alley.
Yeah.
I think it killed quite a few people as well.
Oh, really?
It killed a few people.
A few people died.
This was tweeted from US Tornado's Twitter account.
Now, they have found evidence of a billboard for the flea market company
that travelled 20 miles.
Holy moly, from where it was to where it ended up.
I'm going to show you a photo of the billboard.
It's on a giant pole.
It's a huge billboard.
Yeah, like the Decker billboard.
Yeah, it's almost as big as you can get a billboard.
It's, you know, on top of a pole, a single pole.
And it was torn off and landed 20 miles away.
And it was intact.
Intact?
Yeah.
Just plonked down 20 miles away. So they've got photos of it. Did it take the pole as well? No, it was intact. Intact? Intact. Yeah. Just plonked down 20 miles away.
So they've got photos of...
Did it take the pole as well?
No, it ripped off.
I was going to say,
if it literally like the pole stabbed into the ground,
I would be calling it.
Yeah.
But isn't that...
Because I mean,
when you've never been in a tornado...
Oh, absolutely unfathomable amount of strength.
Because they all have the little bunkers under their house,
don't they?
The tornado shelters. I feel like we're just
good with it.
I'm friends with her
on Facebook.
I haven't talked to her
about it,
but it should be
super interesting.
She spent time
chasing storms,
chasing tornadoes
in the States.
She's a storm chaser.
Yeah, she had photos
on her Facebook
of storm chasing.
Those people are nuts, eh?
It's loose.
So loose.
But then the payoff,
if you saw a cow
spinning around,
that would be worth it.
Does that actually happen?
Yeah.
It doesn't.
If it goes over livestock, they can't hide.
So they just get honed up.
Everything does, like billboards and everything.
So 20 miles is like 32km or something like that.
Yeah, so you think about what 32km is away,
that's how far it travelled in the air.
That's mad.
That is nice.
In a tornado.
Yeah.
And the fact that it landed intact didn't get broken up by the winds,
let alone the impact of hitting the ground again.
No.
And I know you really wanted...
Ikea has launched a flat pack Easter bunny that you build before you eat.
Out of chocolate?
Yes.
That's pretty cool. Oh, Yes. That's pretty cool.
Oh, yeah.
That's pretty cool.
When are we getting an idea?
I've seen chocolate things that you build before you eat before,
and I thought they were pretty cool.
Saw them overseas.
You just end up eating the flat pack bits.
So at the weekend.
It'd be much easier to eat the flat pack bits.
At the weekend, I ordered a moccaccino,
because you know I love a mochaccino.
Yeah.
Sometimes.
And it was a deconstructed mochaccino.
Oh, like you added
your own chocolate.
So there was a cup
and it had chocolate
swirled around it
and then there was a cup,
another cup of the
actual coffee.
Yeah.
All fluffed up and stuff.
And then the next one was...
Wait, the coffee was...
Oh, wait,
the fluffed up milk.
Yeah, and then you had
to pour it in.
Oh, you didn't like that.
And then mix it yourself.
Did it taste good?
Just give me a mochaccino.
No, not really, because I mixed it.
When I have to make it, it's...
But I'm not...
How much did it cost?
Just a normal mocha, I think.
You should be paying less than the mocha rate
if you're going to build it yourself.
Well, yeah, because I'm doing most of the work.
You're doing all the labour.
Now, you used to be
able to do this
and according to
an article published
yesterday,
you can do it again.
This is searching
a phone number
on Facebook
and getting linked
to somebody's
Facebook account.
It was always great
for stalking.
Yeah.
Like a good stalking.
Like, you know,
you match with someone, e.g., you match with someone on a dating app,
you might get their phone number and you give them a light stalk
to see if you've got mutual friends
or they could be an axe murderer.
Like a perusal rather than a stalk.
Yeah, a light perusal rather
than a stalk. Or you work at a radio station
where people text message in things that may be
slightly unsavoury or seem
wildly narrow-minded and then you can search their thing,
their Facebook,
see what they look like
and be like,
that makes sense now.
Which is what Vaughan does.
Just Vaughan.
Just Vaughan.
This all,
this puzzle's coming together.
So,
but then it disappeared
a little while ago.
When the whole
Facebook privacy thing erupted.
Is that when it disappeared?
That's when they took it away, yeah.
Because they were giving people's,
they were giving advertisers people's phone numbers
and details associated with that.
Right.
Do you remember the Analytica, blah, blah, blah.
That happened a while ago and they were like,
all right, everyone's privacy is important to us.
You can't stalk people.
Boo!
What, is it not as important to us. You can't stalk people. Boo! What?
Is it not as important anymore?
They've brought it back.
Well, no, apparently, because this is written by a tech guy
and apparently it's a little backdoor way, isn't it?
Yes.
He writes for the New York Times.
He's a security researcher and columnist for the New York Times.
And he has pointed out that apparently Facebook
is allowing anyone to look up a user by their phone number again.
The same phone number that you would have registered
for security purposes, two-factor authentication.
So if you get locked out or if someone's trying to get into your account,
it sends you a text message and lets you know.
I get these all the time.
It's like, your reset code is da-da-da-da-da.
Yeah, you should always have two-factor authentication.
Yeah.
But now it's a dilemma that people are going to be able to stalk you.
Apparently, use the same number
you have registered
to Facebook.
They will be able to,
if they have your phone number
somehow,
search it on Facebook
and have it linked
to your account
and bring your number up
or your name up.
Right.
I just tried this.
It probably won't work
because I tried it on myself
with my own phone number
and it said no results found.
Oh, okay.
Yeah. Just tell me your phone number and it said no results found. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Just tell me your phone number and I'll put it in.
You just read it out.
We'll just get people to try it at home.
No, it's fine.
It's fine.
We'll try it another way.
We'll try something else.
Right.
Maybe since then they've closed it up.
Maybe.
Because that does seem like a glaring loophole.
A wildly glaring loophole.
Yeah.
Well, there might be a chance if you want to light stalk somebody and you've got their phone number to do that.
It's a light perusal.
Just a light perusal, again.
The Uber list of lost and found, their index has been released
and there are some weird things in there.
So they've released the top 10 common items. Okay.
Which is what you'd expect.
Can I guess car keys?
Or house keys?
That is number three. Vaughan, your turn.
I did that in a taxi once. Never got them back.
Oh, I never got them back.
Phone slash camera is number
one. So your wallet
and purse is number two. If this was Family Feud, the Smiths
would have just gone through the next round. Maximum points. Headphones and purse is number two If this was Family Feud The Smiths would have just gone through The next round
You got maximum points
Headphones and speakers
Is number ten
Passport
Umbrellas
A vape
E-cigarette
Glasses
Clothing items
Backpacks and bags
And then yeah
Phone and camera is number one
Okay
What are the weird items?
So the weird items
This is the things that people leave behind in Ubers. In there
an entire boneless
chicken.
Boneless chicken? Wait, an entire
boneless, or do you mean like chicken
breasts? No, it says an entire
boneless chicken, but would that be like
one of those boneless chicken roasts?
No, but. How do you get a boneless
chicken roast? Yeah, but it's not like. How do they get
the bones? All the bones out of the chicken. No, but it's do you get a bone... Can you get a boneless chicken rice? Yeah, but it's not like... How do you get a boneless chicken rice? How do they get the bones?
All the bones out of the chicken.
No, but it's made into like a roll situation.
Oh, like the turkey things my mum gets at Christmas
because she's too scared to get an actual turkey.
Yeah.
Right.
And then it's in like a meatloaf.
But see, to me, that's not a boneless chicken.
That's a chicken loaf.
That's a chicken roll.
Or a chicken roll.
I mean, they've said an entire boneless chicken.
That does suggest that it's like a chicken.
Without bones.
Shit, it would make my day if it was actually a real life chicken.
And it was just like a puddle of feathers.
And it's just like.
I was born with no feathers.
Because it probably wouldn't even have a skull to have the beak on.
How amazing would a boneless chicken be to roast?
Oh my god.
So good. Oh no, because the best part about, is
the bones. Like a good bit of thigh
around that bone, get the teeth in against the bone.
No.
That's why I can't get on board with chicken-free
chicken.
There's no bone.
There was a insulin
or insulin pens left in there.
Those are expensive, aren't they?
Yeah, they're expensive.
No, insulin pens are different.
Oh, is it different?
Yeah.
Are they cheap?
No, insulin pens are for diabetics.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Okay, yeah, different, okay.
A single block of butter.
That's expensive too.
That's not going to last.
I imagine someone's going around to like a dinner party and they're like, hey, can you
just bring some butter?
And they get out of the Uber like, damn it, I had one job.
It's scooted.
You're never going to believe this.
I left the butter in the Uber.
A chef's set of professional knives.
Oh, those would be expensive.
People going back for these.
Oh, you'd be going back for a set of knives. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Good set of professional knives. Oh, those would be expensive. People going back for these. Oh, you'd be going back for a set of knives.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, good set of knives.
Two boxes of cream chargers.
Nos.
Nos-ies.
Oh, yeah, okay.
The little gas canisters.
I was just going to whip some cream.
I'm a chef.
I work in an industrial kitchen.
Sarah, it's two o'clock in the morning.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I can't have another one of those.
I've got to get up in the morning.
Heaps of security guards.
Cards, not guards.
And passports.
A EFTPOS machine, like a whole machine.
A whole machine, okay.
Yeah.
A unicycle, because they obviously got tired and needed an Uber.
Yeah.
The rest of the way home.
Well, it's a good, a lot of core strength to unicycle.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, you would be.
Can you go down a hill on a unicycle?
You've got to land right back.
Or up a hill?
No, that's a good question.
Can you go down a hill?
Yeah, because they're the same premise as a fixie.
Like, your legs have got to go around the same thing,
so you've actually just got to put a lot of back pedal on it.
So if you did a back pedal, it would break it.
You'd know you've just got to slow pedal.
Slow pedal.
You'd have to put a lot of energy into controlling the pedal.
No, but what about if it was a big hill?
I don't know if they can.
Yeah, and then up a hill would be too hard as well.
I know someone that unicycles.
Do you want me to ask them?
What?
Who do you know that unicycles? I know someone that unicycles. Do you want me to ask them? What? Who do you know that unicycles?
I know someone that unicycles.
What is their name? How do you know them?
How do you know them?
It's not that uncommon.
You see them all the time.
Did you sleep with someone
from Cirque du Soleil again?
No.
Did you?
Have you been hitting that, Cousa?
No. They did have No. Have you been hitting that, Kooza? No.
They did have a unicyclist.
They always do.
They had that couple and he was like lifting her.
Yeah, that was mad.
That was mental.
And lastly, a rocket.
I have no further information on the rocket.
Like a school project.
I don't know.
You know those ones that you pumped up with air and water
and they fizzed up a couple of hundred metres and you're like, oh. Oh, yeah, you pump them up with a school project. I don't know. You know those ones that you pumped up with air and water and they fizzed up a couple of hundred metres and you're like, oh.
Oh, yeah, you pump them up with a foot pump.
A couple of metres, yeah.
So there was, on average, 65 items reported lost each weekend.
And Saturdays, of course, is the most common day for people to lose their stuff.
Right, of course it is.
From the ZM think tank, this is the top six.
Yes, good morning.
Apparently news out of the US that the average tooth fairy payments have decreased over the last couple of years.
Is business suffering or something?
Well, for the second year in a row, the tooth fairy payouts have fallen.
Two years ago, the average payout stood at $4.66 US.
Okay.
And now it's down to under $4.
That's a lot though, isn't it?
So the tooth index has fallen or something.
Yeah, against the footsie and the yanny.
All those ones that are always on the news that you're like,
one day I'll understand that, but I've been saying that for 30 years.
Well, I guess the economy's not booming as much as,
you know, it has been.
No, no, it's slowing,
but that's tough times.
So the top six reasons the tooth fairy payments
have gone down.
Well, number six,
the arse has dropped right out of the tooth market.
Okay.
It turns out that a winged creature
entering your home at night
to take your teeth that have fallen out in this woke age
is now more creepy than it is cute.
So you're not getting as much.
They're not getting as much at the other end for the teeth.
Yeah, right.
You know?
She can't on-sell.
Yeah, right.
For nearly what she used to be able to.
Number five on the list of the top six reasons
the Tooth Fairy payments have gone down.
The Tooth Fairy was heavily invested in Bitcoin.
And is trying to recoup their losses because they lost a lot. Oh, God. Because those people in the office have gone down. The Tooth Fairy was heavily invested in Bitcoin. And is trying to recoup their losses.
Because they lost a lot.
Because those people in the office have gone quiet.
They're very quiet.
Rossboss had a portfolio
of cryptocurrency.
He was all about it
for a bit there.
They were up there with the CrossFitters, the Vegans,
the Antivaxxers and the Flat Earthers
there for a while with how quick they were to tell you about their thoughts on it.
Yeah, but at least the CrossFitters and the F45ers have got, you know,
hot abs and stuff.
Something to show for it.
Something to show for it.
Yeah.
No, Ross Boss is just in the negatives now.
Yeah.
Does he still have that app that tracks them?
I don't think he does.
He loves showing you that app.
I don't think he does it now, though, does he?
Delete the app.
He held it and jiggled.
He deleted it. He's going to come in here and show us his app now, isn't he?
I'd like to see it.
Moe's plateaued.
Number four on the list of the top six reasons the Tooth Fairy payments have gone down.
The Tooth Fairy is saving some of that money for a bit of nip-tuck.
Oh, okay.
Off to Thailand soon.
T&A used to stand for teeth and...
Abscesses.
Yes.
Good one.
Good for me.
She's hoping to change what people talk about
when they talk about TNA for the Tooth Fairy.
Perfect, just the way she is.
She's been around for so long, Megan.
How old would she be?
Very old.
Yeah, right.
Very old.
Number three on the list of the top six reasons
the Tooth Fairy payments have gone down.
The Tooth Fairy bit off a bit more than they could chew with the latest mortgage.
Right, okay.
So the mortgage repayments are quite a bit larger.
They didn't kind of take into account any rise in interest rates when they really bit into a big mortgage.
Number two on the list of the top six reasons the tooth-free payments have gone down.
Insurance premiums for flying around at night time in the sky is sky high these days.
Yeah, right.
Excuse the pun.
Blame drones.
Very dangerous for a fairy to get too close to a drone.
They'll go straight through those rotor blades,
wreck the drone and do themselves some serious damage.
Yeah.
And the number one reason on today's top six reasons
that tooth free payments have gone down,
the average is going down,
but so is the quality of the average tooth.
Oh, yeah, right.
There's still nice teeth out there that they're paying a top dollar for,
but the average quality of tooth has dropped away with all the fizzies.
All the sugar.
And the sugary treats.
The lollies.
And the brushing and the lollies.
Yeah.
So that's just the market, baby.
Yeah.
Something to think about.
That's yes when you're brushing.
Yeah.
Extra hard for extra long.
When your gums are bleeding, good work, you're almost there.
That is today's top six.
Last night, I think I was in the kitchen and I heard on the TV saying Michael Hill,
Michael Hill Jewelers boat.
And I was like, oh, Michael Hill Jeweler,
because I don't know why we just don't call him Michael Hill.
We're Michael Hill Jeweler.
I remember when we were growing up,
he always used to front his ads on TV.
You want a four carat diamond ring, of course you do Michael Hill Jeweler.
But now it's a much, like a, you know, it's just his name on it.
Yeah.
And, you know, it's all fancy-looking ads now.
He lives on a golf course in Queenstown, right?
Yeah.
Didn't they play the New Zealand Open there this week?
Yep, I think they did last week, yeah.
He lives in a house on a golf course, and he's got, like, a $3 million violin.
He's got lots of toys.
Yeah.
Stradivarius.
He's got like
this legendary violin.
He's got a wild collection
of sculptures
and arts
and all sorts of things.
Oh, I've just looked up
his net worth.
$320 million.
Good Lord.
I thought it would be
more than that.
I don't know.
Is that not enough? Like, that's a don't know. Well, is that not enough?
Like, that's a lot of money for him.
No, because isn't our richest man, Graham Hart, he's in the bajillions now.
He's surpassed trillions.
He's in the bajillions.
Yeah, but don't.
You don't compare yourself to other millionaires.
Oh, you'll never be happy if you're just comparing how much money you've got to somebody else.
You'll never be happy.
No.
But anyway, Michael.
And so they're talking about Michael Hull's getting this boat.
So I was like, this will be nice.
Yeah. This will be like, because I quite like, I don't know,
as previously said on the show, I'm not a huge fan of boats.
Or you get seasick, don't you?
I'd have gills if we were meant to be on the water that much.
We'd have gills.
Or we'd be seals.
So if you're a seal and you're listening, sure, you belong there.
Us, not heaps.
But I like seeing those occasionally we hear on the news,
oh, a Russian billionaire's parked up in Auckland's viaduct
and he's getting some work done on his boat.
And you go for a look and you're like, that's insane.
And it's like a black one and it's got like some round satellite ball thing on top.
Yeah, with a helicopter pad and like a boat to escape on
that's bigger than any boat I've like been fishing on.
That Google guy had his boat down here for a while too, didn't he?
That had a helicopter on the back of it.
Yes.
Nuts.
And a little boat.
There were little boats on the big boat.
So I'm expecting to go into the lounge and on the TV see Michael Hill Jewellers boat
being like Russian, magellaneer, big dog, white, sleek, like something you see on the movies.
I am greeted with something I could only muster the words yuck when I saw it.
Is this just you being jealous because he's got a fancy boat?
But it looks like it's a navy boat because it's grey like a navy boat.
No, I don't know if it's going to be painted,
but it's already got the beast written on it because that's what he's called it.
It's huge.
It's a catamaran.
Is it like a frigate? It's like something you'd go to Waiheke on.
Look.
Oh, no, that looks like the ferry.
Yeah.
It looks like a car ferry.
It looks very Nordic.
It looks like the Norwegians painted it.
Did they buy it from Bluebridge?
I don't know.
Looks like he's picked up a second hand.
Not as big as an inter-island ferry.
More of your little island ferry, like a why hecky.
It's way bigger than that because you look, there's a truck for comparison.
Oh, yeah.
It's big.
It's massive. There's the truck than that because you look, there's a truck for comparison. Oh yeah. It's big, it's massive.
There's the truck,
just a little truck down there.
It's massive,
but it's,
I mean,
it's probably immense
and luxurious inside.
Well,
no,
that's the thing.
I haven't seen the pictures of inside
and maybe he's doing that thing
where,
you know,
you play it down on the outside
because that's his vibe
with that house on the golf course.
Right.
It's understated.
Yeah.
He just wants it to look part of the landscape
so it doesn't stand out.
But then inside, it's pretty intense.
But yeah, see, like, look at,
there's another, from another angle.
Oh my God, it's huge.
Yeah, it's absolutely monstrous.
Oh, look at this guy in the foreground.
He's got jandals and track pants
and his track pants are pulled right up and tucked in.
He wasn't expecting to hear the news.
Did he design the boat?
That would explain why it's grey with
stripes. But yeah,
you know, I was just expecting something
like more, like, I mean,
let's put it this way, Pitbull isn't going to do a music
video on this.
That's how you want to... No!
That's how you want to... From zero to Pitbull,
it's...
It's zero. F-E-M.
Z-E-M.
The Danes have been up to something pretty good.
What else have the Danes done?
They made the Great Dane, the dog.
That was pretty good.
Danish pastries.
They made Danish pastries,
which some would say are their finest inventions.
People from Denmark.
Denmark.
They did...
The Danish.
Yeah, yep.
The Danish.
The people from Denmark.
The Danes. They made Danish pastries. They always The Danish. The people from Denmark. The Danes.
They made Danish pastries.
They always put a fairly good beach volleyball team forward for the Olympics.
I'll always give them that.
Copenhagen Cones.
Oh, wait.
The Little Mermaid.
Yep.
Yep.
I've seen the statue.
You've got a statue in Copenhagen of the Little Mermaid.
Do they?
The original story of the Little Mermaid.
Not the one with the Jamaican crab.
Not the Disney one, but the one that's based on the fairy tale.
The Danes have done a 650,000 person study.
Now, you've got to be thinking of any study.
650,000 people.
That's a very large sample size.
Any statistician will say you only need a few
until you're going to get the same results regardless, right?
This is obviously something you agree with
because you're saying it's a large sample size.
Because Megan and I could see you climbing up your ladder
to get on that high horse.
This has been quantified, whatever it is.
So I'm up here.
They have studied.
This was done between 1999 and 2010.
This was all the children born in that time in Denmark
and went through to the end of 2013.
They were followed.
All of these children were given the MMR vaccine.
That is the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine.
Okay.
And through that study, it has been found that the MMR vaccine
did not increase the risk of autism,
even within children with other autism risk factors
or children whose siblings had autism.
There was absolutely no link proven
between the vaccine and autism.
And you might be thinking,
why does he keep saying that?
Because that's the main argument of anti-vaxxers.
People who are against the herd immunisation reaching the crucial mark of like,
what is it, 97 out of 100 have to be immunised against this
before it becomes effective as a herd immunisation.
And that's why diseases like measles are rearing their ugly heads
because people are ignoring the science.
And I understand people have adverse reactions to vaccines like measles are rearing their ugly heads because people are ignoring the science.
And I understand people have adverse reactions to vaccines and you can get tested for that before you've done it.
And they can fall into the 3% of people
who don't have to be vaccinated.
But if your child has no reason not to be vaccinated,
including what might be autism risks
because it's been disproven,
then get them vaccinated, please.
It's timely, this study, because countries like Costa Rica,
who used to be measles-free, are now getting measles
because people are anti-vaxxing and holidaying
and spreading it around again.
And even states in America, it's going crazy.
And it shouldn't be.
Wasn't it Oregon recently or Northern California
that had that massive measles outbreak?
Like kids are dying of measles, completely preventable diseases
because of this weird anti-vaxxer movement that's going around.
You know that the study isn't going to, they're not going to listen to it though.
No.
It's like Trump supporters and anyone I don't agree with in their bubble.
Flat earthers.
Or flat earthers online.
They'll just find stuff to back up.
You can't argue with them.
You watched the flat earthers documentary
Behind the Curve, eh?
Oh my God.
So I thought this was really good
and I'm a terrible spokesperson for this angle
because I always come out swinging quite hot.
But there was that scientist who talks in there
about how telling them they're stupid
and believe in stupid things
only strengthens people's beliefs.
Which is what you do all the time.
Crystals, anti-vaxxers.
Crystals are bloody stupid.
They're just a sparkly rock.
You might as well go onto the side of the road,
pick up a handful of gravel
and chuck that in your drink bottle.
No, the scientists said that, like,
you'd be better off looking at yourself and say,
well, where have I, like,
taken a misstep to, like,
give them the information they need?
But it's not my fault they're stupid.
No, but instead of coming in hot, you just try and have a conversation and see where
they haven't picked up the information they need.
I don't think you can have a conversation with people like that.
I think it's been proven enough that these people will believe what they want.
Yeah.
And they will find whatever they want in their group and online
to back up their thinking.
With flat earthers, I'm fine with that.
But when it comes to anti-vaxxers,
your kids are the ones that are suffering with your ignorance.
It's affecting other people, isn't it?
That's why I don't have a problem if people want to put gravel or crystals
or whatever in their drink bottles.
It's not hurting me.
Who's putting gravel in their drink bottles?
Unless they all take a handful of gravel and then, like, the roads have got big holes in
them because they're all grabbing a handful of gravel.
But literally the only difference between your magic rock and the rocks that make up
the road is how pretty and shiny they are and their organic composite.
You know, that's the main difference.
There is literally no difference between putting gravel and a shiny rock in your drink bottle,
Megan.
It's from the earth.
I'm just saying. I'm going to start
selling gravel drink bottles.
Sitting up there on your high horse and being so
arrogant about it. Just let
people be. It doesn't hurt anyone.
That's a very
harmless belief. Excuse me, Megan, that gravel
re-energised my morning. I was tired
until that gravel got in me.
If that's the way that makes you feel, then
all power to you, sweetheart.
Somebody just said seven cases of measles in Christchurch,
which is really bad.
I know the white guy had a really bad time of it.
Was it a couple of years ago, 18 months ago?
Yeah.
Somebody said the best part about this study is
apparently anti-vaxxers put a lot of money into funding.
The study?
A part of the study that actually proved them wrong.
Really?
Oh, that's wonderful.
See how...
Yeah, okay.
Well, hopefully that's kind of shown a few people.
Yeah.
And somebody said, you effing Muppet,
a Great Dane is a German breed of dog,
not a Danish breed of dog.
Oh, I'm willing to give you that.
I didn't really know.
I just went with the name Dane.
Out of all the things to argue with you.
And somebody else said,
you've forgotten the Dane's finest creation,
TV star Claire Danes.
Which is very true.
Oh, and Lego.
Oh, and Lego.
Yes.
Brilliant.
Lego.
That was the big one.
All right.
Next on the show,
we're talking about your coming of age TV shows.
We're going to take us
to a trip down memory lane. There might
be some talk of Party of Five
or Beverly Hills 90210.
Or Roswell?
Yeah, I've...
We'll talk about this next, but
Roswell's not a coming of age TV show.
What?
Yesterday, after the sad news
hearing that Luke Perry, aka Dylan Mackay from Beverly Hills 902,
the original series, had passed away,
it was pretty intense because when I was a little kid,
I had a poster with all the people from Beverly Hills 902
and on my wall.
I don't know how much money they were getting paid
per episode at the height, but they were,
that was a big TV show.
It was a double punch yesterday for 90s
kids, because the guy from Prodigy died as well.
Yes, that's right. Sad day.
Yeah. So, Beverly Hills
90210, the show that he
found major fame on,
Luke Perry, and probably better known
now as
the KJ Apa's father
of... Archie's dad, Riverdale.
Riverdale, Riverdale.
But I was looking up,
I was getting back into the archives
of Beverly Hills 90210
and I watched all the intro
because it was always like...
It was the most 90s theme tune
you could ever have comprehended.
But I found a YouTube compilation of all 10 seasons.
This was 10 seasons.
This was the finish of the year 2000.
Started in 1990, went for 10 years.
Wow.
Most of the cast left, apart from the ones that couldn't find other work.
They just hung around.
And so I was looking up.
I watched it all.
I was like, look at all these faces.
And I remembered it.
And then I looked up and it said that Beverly Hills 90210
chronicled the character's friendships and romantic relationships,
but the show also addressed numerous topical issues
and coming of age issues such as sex, homophobia, animal rights,
alcoholism, drug abuse, domestic violence, eating disorders, anti-Semitism, racism, suicide, teenage pregnancy,
and HIV AIDS.
Wow.
And all the big ones.
And I remember, like, there were so many episodes that dealt,
there was a gun violence one where Brian Austin Green's character,
they was playing with some guns with this little blonde dude,
and he got shot.
And I was like, ah!
And that was why they did it, so you wouldn't fiddle with guns.
You'd be like, well, America will sort out their gun violence.
Yeah, phew, after that gripping episode of 90210.
Lucky they educated the US.
Yeah, exactly.
And it stopped being a problem then and there.
Yeah.
So it got me thinking, it was the first TV show I watched
that had adult themes to it,
which I guess is what is quintessentially a coming of age TV show. It's that age where it starts dealing with more adult issues like
the alcoholism and the drugs and stuff. And you see that for the first time on TV and
it kind of, there's an educational aspect to it.
Yeah. Well, it's got us talking about those shows because Dawson's Creek.
Dawson's Creek was a classic.
That would be another one.
Yep. shows because Dawson's Creek. Dawson's Creek was a classic. Dawson's Creek was a real classic
coming of age TV drama.
So
90210 was my first one but I'd say
the big one, probably Party of Five.
Yeah, Party of Five was my one.
The Salingers, dealing with the fact that their parents died.
How did the parents die? They both died at the same time.
Drunk driver. Yes, that's right.
And then they went around haphazardly in that open top
Jeep which I thought would have been a gate
so you would have wanted
something with a stable roof
if your parents had died
in the car accident
to add to a bit of
stability to the vehicle.
But around they went
transporting that little baby
around in the Jeep as well.
But we want to know
this morning
on 0800DOLLS.ITM
or you can text
9696
what was your
coming of age TV show?
The TV show that
probably was the first one with adult themes that you'd watched that maybe taught you a text 9696. What was your coming-of-age TV show? The TV show that probably was the first one with adult themes
that you'd watched that maybe taught you a thing or two.
Yeah, and how into it did you get?
Because a lot of them are well-known for their music as well.
Yes.
Because I loved Roswell and Dido was the theme song of that.
And I know it was about aliens, but there was love scenes and stuff.
If you're not familiar with the TV show Roswell,
three aliens land at Roswell.
And Catherine Heigl was one of them.
They take on teenagers' bodies, right?
Yeah.
And they all had, like, superpowers.
Jason Beer, Brendan Fair and Catherine Heigl.
Catherine Heigl.
Which one could read a CD by holding it up to their ear?
Was that Catherine Heigl?
I think it was.
Like, the lamest of the superpowers,
because the other dude could, like, heal you if you were dead. Yeah. Oh Heigl? I think it was. Like the lamest of the Super Bowls because the other dude could like heal you
if you were dead.
Yeah.
Oh my God,
it's so good.
But yeah,
it dealt with like
teenage stuff.
There was like drugs
and violence and
gun violence.
People hated aliens
so that kind of
reflected racism a bit.
Alright,
so 0800 DALES
at M9696.
What was that TV show
that you couldn't get
enough of growing up?
Your coming of age TV show.
Your coming of age TV show
that taught you a little bit about life.
And how into it did you get?
We're talking about your coming-of-age TV show,
so shows, maybe they taught you something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So some text messages in on the subject.
Somebody said home improvement.
Okay.
While it was a little bit of a laugh with her.
Tim the Tall Man Taylor.
I learnt nothing about home improvements.
But that was the double meaning of the show, eh?
Yeah.
Because he was a builder who could do renovations that always went wrong,
but he was also, he was learning.
He was learning life as a father of three boys.
I don't know.
And then Wilson over the fence always had some great.
Yeah.
That taught me about love because Jonathan Taylor
Thomas was on it. And you were in love with him. Yeah.
It taught me if you get a
builder, you've got to get one that's got the
registered master seal
of approval. Yes.
Some other... This is
actually a good point. The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air
was a big comedy, but
there were some episodes that were intense.
Like, oh my God,
what about the episode where Will's dad comes back,
but then Will's dad takes off
and Uncle Phil's there to comfort him.
And he's like, why doesn't he?
Oh, just thinking about it, I've got goosebumps.
And then there was the episode where Carlton got shot
and he wanted to get a gun
and Will was talking about getting a gun.
Alex, what was your coming of age TV show?
The OC.
Oh, yeah. A classic. California. Yeah. Alex, what was your coming-of-age TV show? The O.C. Oh, yeah.
A classic.
California.
Yeah.
California.
God, that was a great soundtrack.
The soundtracks for those, it was like,
when they're like five or six,
and then they were always so good.
So good.
So good.
And honestly, I hear that, you know,
that piano at the beginning of that song,
and I could cry.
Oh, don't get me started.
It's too much.
What was the big learning moment from the OC?
What was something the OC taught you about?
Well, there were a few things.
The main one is how badly I wanted a Range Rover.
I was hoping for something about acceptance and everything.
Well, no. Well, I mean, like, acceptance and everything. Well, no.
Well, I mean, it was a Range Rover.
It was a Motorola flip-top phone.
And it was that I wanted a pool house and I wanted to stay somewhere from Dale and have them live in it.
Hey, Alex.
Oh, stop.
This is such a...
Misha, no!
I've got goosebumps.
Thanks, you caught Alex.
Some text messages.
Somebody said, Felicity, the show with Kerry Russell.
Not only was her hair amazing, moody music,
and it taught me a lot about life.
Felicity
was out there in the world.
Yeah.
Megan, you'll be pleased
to know there's a new version
of Roswell.
It's on TVNZ On Demand.
You must try it out.
Are you kidding me?
It's the same storyline
but has today's spin on it.
Oh, okay.
How did I not hear for it?
No one hear about that.
Don't know.
Don't know.
Someone said One Tree Hill.
One Tree Hill was a show
that was my coming of age show
taught me a lot about life and uh it was one of the reasons i tried to play basketball even though
i couldn't cute um intern anya you've got a couple yeah um kim possible and the animated show possible
come and beat me if you want to reach me.
These aren't coming of age TV shows.
These are just cartoons you watch.
Well, they are.
Because Kim Possible taught me about how to be a spy,
in case I ever need that, in my career.
And then wild thornberries taught me about animals and how to talk to them.
It's got to be more of a drama.
Surely you were into some dramas.
Yeah, The Weekenders, That's So Raven.
All of these are animated.
Now, I've got no problem
with animated TV shows,
but none of these
are coming of age.
Corey in the House.
What?
Oh, my God.
Okay.
I feel you need
an OC box set weekend.
Oh, you do.
You need to sit yourself
down with Adam Brody
and the guy
that's on Gotham now
and have a real session.
Tinder is to blame for you not having a house.
There's a new report that says Tinder and Bumble and other dating apps has changed the
way that young people date and therefore they're settling down when they're older.
So they're not settling down when they're like, you know, our parents were like 20 something,
24, 25.
Exactly.
So having three kids, a mortgage by the time you're 25 doesn't happen anymore.
But also houses are insanely more expensive than they were then.
So you have to find a person to spend your life with.
Yeah.
And then three other people to buy a house collectively.
But yeah, that's exactly it. So you need often two people,
the income of two people
and people want to buy a house sometimes
when you're in like a committed relationship.
And because of Tinder and Bumble...
I buy it and it's better to buy a house
when you're in a committed relationship
rather than with a one-night stand.
No, I'm thinking of...
There's lots of friends who buy houses together now.
That was good.
How about we enjoy a cigarette and go to a bar foots auction?
But wouldn't it be weird, like, if you bought with friends,
because then, like, if they go down a different path,
or they want out, like, they find someone.
Yeah.
Like, what are they meant to,
you've got to have a sudden you're living with a couple.
You've got to have a pretty good agreement.
Yeah.
That, you know, because, yeah, got to have a sudden you're living with a couple. You've got to have a pretty good agreement. Yeah. That, you know...
Because, yeah, this happened to a mate of mine.
He bought a house with a friend,
but then the friend got a serious partner
and then they wanted to buy a house together,
so they had to sell the house.
Yeah.
And then they took their halves
and went and tried to buy another house.
Yeah.
Individually.
So, basically, Gen Ys and Millennials
are just settling down much later
and the cost is so great,
they need to find themselves someone
to put the deposit on the house
and it's not happening till in their 30s now.
There's a report that like,
we probably won't be able to pay it off, right?
As well.
Yeah, yeah.
Because we're getting mortgages so much later.
Later and bigger.
Yeah.
I mean, the best thing you could hope for
is just going out like the notebook
so you're not leaving the other one with the mortgage.
What happens to the mortgage?
But like much younger
than the notebook
because you probably
stop working when you're 70
and those people
are like in their late 80s
so you don't want to be
hanging around until then.
I'm thinking when your
KiwiSaver runs out.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Double notebook it.
It's like a notebook
with pillows
over the face.
Oh, come on.
How tiny.
End me.
But if you do that to your partner, what happens to you?
Well, you've got to do it to yourself.
That's the hard part.
Because when you go unconscious, you let go of the pillow.
I've changed my mind.
Oh, but then you're stuck with the mortgage.
Back to the pillow.
I don't know.
FBM.
Now, mums do this All the time
Mix up names
And it's always
In a quick
Like Scott
John
Carl
It was always
During a telling off
Yeah
I was trying to think
My mum hasn't done it
For a while
But it's probably
Because she hasn't
Told us off for a while
Producer Caitlin
Does this all the time
And again
It's probably
When she's telling us
Yes because I always
Have to tell you off
Like ah Fletcher for me
boy.
I go through everyone's name before I get to you.
Well, science has worked out
what this means. And Caitlin,
is there something you want to tell us?
You're annoying.
You love us.
What? Is that what it means?
You love us. Really?
I don't love you. You and Aroha with us.
Oh.
Kia ora to Aroha.
Okay, like, I like you guys as friends.
You really like us.
Well, it must be more than that, Caitlin,
because science has shown that mums mostly do this.
They muddle up names because they love them.
Oh, please.
So you just scroll through things you love when you're...
Well, yeah, so the misnaming tends to happen
with people you have an equally close relationship with.
They studied 1,700 people through five studies.
Most of those who had called someone by the wrong names were mums,
and the mix-ups included all people they loved.
Overall, the misnaming of familiar individuals is driven by the relationship
between the misnamer, misnamed, and named.
Because I was calling my brother-in-law Fletch in the weekend by mistake.
Oh, you must love him as well.
And you put Ross in there too.
I know!
So it all has to do with the way that our brains organise information.
And so they store the names away.
This organisational system is known as the semantic network.
And in a nutshell, it keeps the names of all the people you love.
Cute.
In a shelf.
Like your kids.
Yeah.
Or names or people you love.
What about dogs?
Because someone said my mum will even chuck a dog's name in there.
That means she loves the dogs.
So it stores all the names there and in the same place.
So when you're trying to quickly grab a name,
like when you're telling someone off or you're in a hurry.
You're trying to grab it off the shelf and you're floundering.
And you end up going through all the names that you love
and all the names that are there.
Is that going to happen with your boyfriend?
Oh, my God.
You'll know that I'm in love when I say his name
to you guys.
I'm not in love yet.
Have you accidentally said his name
out loud
to either of us or your brother?
No, I haven't.
I haven't, Ross!
Get out!
You do say Ross Boss's name quite a bit.
I know!
That even sounded creepy because you heard that dual squeak open.
Squeak.
Hello.
You said my name.
But when you're talking to your boyfriend, have you ever said our names?
Oh, probably.
I always do.
But doesn't that mean that...
You're just at the tip of my tongue because you annoy me and you're always there.
But you love us.
But doesn't that make sense?
Yeah.
Like that totally explains it, doesn't it?
Cute.
Yeah.
And so, I mean, if your mum's not accidentally saying your brother's name to you, you're
not the favourite and she doesn't love you.
I don't know how to break that to you.
I just did.
Imagine if someone's mum's never got the names muddled up.
Stephen.
Nailed it.
Craig.
Nailed it.
Like, mum, I don't have a brother called Stephen or Craig.
Or that you know of.
Am I a bad person?
All right, it's time for Am I a Bad Person?
We get our judgy pants on.
Yep.
This is kind of a situation that somebody brings up
and they're saying,
am I a bad person for thinking or doing the following?
And then you guys get to kind of decide if they are or not.
This is, yeah. This is a really interesting one.
Now, this person wants to remain anonymous.
This email came in at 12.45 a.m.
Now, I know that because I saw it, but also it's mentioned in the email.
Shall we begin?
Yes.
Dear Fletch von Amigen, am I a bad person?
My boyfriend of four years keeps going out with his mates
and staying the night.
And the past week,
he stayed over at his mate's house
over the weekend
and now tonight,
bracket,
Monday night.
Close brackets.
He doesn't understand
why I get shitty with him
for not letting me know
when he isn't coming home.
I don't want to be
this controlling girlfriend,
but at the same time,
I can't sleep well
when he's not here.
We're currently living
in a holiday park, which is generally safe, but I still feel
uncomfortable being here on my own.
I know he isn't doing the dirty before people start coming to conclusions that he is.
She doesn't go into how she's done.
How does she know?
Because instantly I'm like, this is a red flag.
Yeah.
If someone of four years is all of a sudden changing some habits.
Yeah.
Big habits changes.
Might have been happening for a little bit,
but maybe they weren't living in the caravan park,
the holiday park, so it didn't bother them.
I've spoken to him about letting me know if he's not coming home,
which he is bad at telling me,
so I'm up to stupid o'clock waiting for him
to whether or not he's going to come home or message me.
Hence this 12.45 a.m. message.
When nothing happens, of course I get worried.
Then I feel like a dick when I ask his mates where he is
when I text message or call them
at an ungodly hour.
The thing that really gets me is that he goes to
the gym and when he's on his way back, he'll
message saying, I'm on my way home
but I don't care if he's coming back from the gym
in the daylight hours because he's usually only gone
for a couple of hours. He does
go hunting a lot and obviously I know there's no
reception in a lot of areas
that he goes hunting in, but when he's out with his mates, maple leaf.
But that's what you use.
Yeah, yeah.
To indicate a bit of marijuana usage, right?
Like they smoke a bit of weed when he's out with his mates.
And I know he can contact me, and I know he can contact me, and it makes me really emotional
that he can't see why I hate him staying out the night.
Right. So there, she's asking, am I a bad person for what worrying or asking
this question? For wanting him to, it's as simple as she just
wants him to let her know where she is the whole time. See it's not the whole
time even, just if he's not going to be home. It's red flags for me.
She said, how can she be sure he's not cheating?
What, just because you've been with someone for four years?
Isn't that when someone would?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wrote down pointers.
Okay.
Because that whole time I was like, shook.
You were taking notes.
Because, have you guys finished Dear John, Dirty John yet on Netflix?
Because I want one of, I'd get one of those car trackers that they used.
That's why I'm so like on edge about this. Yeah. Because Dirty John. I know, you can't Netflix? Because I'd get one of those car trackers that they used. Maybe that's why I'm so on edge about this,
because Dirty John is...
I know, you can't trust anyone.
You chuck it on his car and he is where you think he is,
but you don't know what he's doing there.
Then, yeah, you've wasted all that money on a car tracker.
That's what you're saying, isn't it?
Why, first of all, is he staying with his mates all the time?
All the time.
That's excessive.
Two, why is he jumping straight
to the defensive when you ask about
him and it's from genuine concern
but he's straight away defensive. Isn't that
like a red flag?
She isn't a bad person because she's
it comes from genuine worry.
Like, when he's telling her where she is,
where he is, she's fine with it but
she's genuinely concerned for where he
is. And if he's telling you about the gym but he's not telling you when he's fine with it, but she's genuinely concerned for where he is.
And if he's telling you about the gym, but he's not telling
you when he's out with his mates,
doesn't that indicate that he's lying?
He's got something to hide? You don't stay
at your mate's house that
often, do you? That often, no.
Let's be honest. No. You'd rather go to your
own bed. I mean, even if you're living in a caravan
park and you're between flats or whatever.
And like if it's the weekend
and there's drinks involved
or whatever,
but like Monday night?
Yeah, nah.
Monday night?
That's the other...
Unless you're getting on it
on Monday night
and you don't want to drive home.
But that's it.
But what is it?
Is there a job?
But like straight away
he's turning...
When you're guilty like that,
straight away you'd turn around
and try and make her feel bad.
Oh, you've been controlling.
Oh, like, get off my back kind of thing.
Instead of actually explaining what the hell he's doing.
I don't think anyone is going to think she's a bad person.
At all.
Look at all three of us have got our arms crossed.
I know.
Why have we all got our arms crossed?
Because we're pissed off.
We're humping.
We're coming on hot.
It's not good enough.
George. I just gave him a name. George. Something's up, though. I know. It's not good enough. George.
I just gave him a name.
George.
Something's up though.
Something's up to me.
This is red flag.
Because she seems quite convinced that he's not doing anything.
But she hasn't given us a reason why she knows that he's not.
Okay.
Well, I think we need to take some calls and texts now.
Firstly, is she a bad person?
Yes or no.
And then have you been in the situation?
And, you know, how did you get through it?
Because it could be as innocent as,
he just wants to hang out with his mates.
Yeah, but don't be useless.
Like, that's how somebody messaged in.
Guys are useless.
And when they're with the lads, they're even more useless.
Well, you've got to think about your partner.
You're in a relationship now, grow up.
And you know this after four years?
Yeah, and you're living with them.
So, okay, well, let us know. 0800DAR relationship now, grow up. And you know this after four years? Yeah, and you're living with them. So, okay, well let us know. 0800
DALES.M 9696. Maybe you've been in this
situation, you've got some advice.
We're getting a lot of messages in.
Some stellar messages coming in. Alright, we'll get to those next.
Am I a bad person?
So, just a quick recap.
We have received a message
from an anonymous listener. This came
at like one in the morning. A lot of worry going on.
And we need you to tell us if she is a bad person or not.
And then some feedback on the situation.
Previously on Am I a Bad Person?
My boyfriend of four years is going out, staying at mates' houses a lot.
He does it most weekends.
He says he's going hunting.
I've got no reason to believe he's not cheating on me.
He is cheating on her.
But even if he's not cheating on her with another woman,
he's cheating on her by treating her this poorly
and making her worry so badly.
But she doesn't think so.
So, I mean, maybe he's not and he is just out with the lads.
Yeah, and there's a stoner.
She doesn't go as far to saying he's a stoner,
but we'll read between the lines.
Your emoji is used.
All right, let's go to Hayley first.
Do you think he's a bad person, Hayley?
I definitely don't think she's a bad person.
I've been in a very, very similar situation
and it didn't end out that great.
So what happened in your situation then?
So I was with my boyfriend for seven years.
Okay.
And same sort of thing.
We were living together and he was spending every night with his mates and not messaging me.
Exactly the same situation.
It got to the point that I was really lonely and just over it.
So I actually ended up cheating on him, which is not something that I'm proud of.
Yeah.
But the next day I told him, fronted up to it,
and then it came out of the woodworks that the whole time that we were together,
he was doing that to me.
Oh, wow.
Oh, no.
Multiple different people.
So was there a point where his behaviour changed?
I'm begging.
Was there a point where his habits changed? Was there a point where his habits changed?
Like he was with you every night, then all of a sudden he wasn't?
Right, and that's when it started.
That's why it's a red flag to me.
Like you're with someone every night, and then all of a sudden you're not?
And you're with your friends?
It's like, well, you weren't before.
Yeah.
Yeah, and you're cuddly and affectionate,
and then all of a sudden you're not,
and you don't want to have anything to do with that person.
Well, no word on the cuddle situation from this email.
Hayley, thanks for your call, Hayley.
And for a guy's perspective, Matt, do you think they're a bad person?
No, she is not.
He's a douche.
And I tell you what, if he's not cheating on her,
he's teeing it up.
He's getting it lined up. he's getting it lined up he's getting it lined up
because that's how
somebody said
they've been the
jerk
in this sort of situation
where they wouldn't
contact their partner
but they were just too weak
and didn't know how to
break up with them
and they said
looking back on it now
they really regret
not being honest
with them sooner
but were just young
immature and didn't know
how to handle themselves
we've all
been like that I'm sure I've been like that, I'm sure. Well, I've been
like that. I give the old, I've
got the message, you know, and then
just come home, say I'll be home at 10 and then get
home at 10 in the morning. Get the wrong
10. I said 10.
Thank you for your honesty. I said 10. It's a technicality,
Your Honour. Yeah.
Matt, thanks for your call. Bex,
is she a bad person?
Oh, no.
She's a good person that needs to go with her gut and get rid of him.
Yeah.
I think a lot of people are swaying towards there's something up here.
Yeah.
Look, woman's intuition, you know, you just know.
You know something's dodgy.
And, yeah, I mean, it's happened to me before.
And I ended up going to my boyfriend's house.
You know, he invited me there.
I was going to meet him there.
He was late.
The phone rang, his landline, and it was a girl asking for him.
And so I just said, oh, in what capacity do you know my boyfriend?
And she just went, oh.
That's just incredible that someone would pay for a landline in this day and age.
That's what's more.
Oh, look.
I know this sounds sweet and young, but this was 20 years ago.
Oh, right.
I was going to say,
you want to steal him
out of the house,
but you're on a limited cord.
You're like...
But yeah, I think there's
definitely some red flags here.
Yeah.
I would be straight
in the Toyota Corolla
going around to the mate's house
to stalk it out.
But how...
This is hilarious
that she's written in
for am I a bad person?
When he's the bad person.
We're questioning his morals.
Somebody said they heard of a situation exactly like this
and they were also living somewhere cheap,
in this case, holiday part,
because they were leading a double life.
So, so much of their money was being spent on the other person.
And if he's away for like nights at a time,
that might just be when he can tell this other person
that he's got free time, that he's not working.
Oh, I'd be getting a car tracker.
I'd be following his car.
You've got to do some investigation.
Put your mind at rest.
Somebody said, does this guy not shower?
And I replied, why does that matter?
And they said, well, his phone will be unattended
when he's in his shower.
I assume everybody's having a peak.
And somebody said that they had a partner Well, his phone will be unattended when he's in his shower. I assume everybody's having a peak. Really good.
And somebody said that they had a partner that would do this,
disappear for long stretches of time,
and say they were doing things where there was no reception.
Yeah.
Fishing, hunting, et cetera,
but they were getting themselves involved in some very hard drugs.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
And they had to be away for that time so they could come back straight.
Yeah, there's a few people who have said
it sounds really sketchy as to why he's
away for that long. She needs to call the people
who he always sees he's with. Call them
when he sees he's with them. And see if he's
there. But they're his mates, so he's probably fed
them the line to defend him.
God, you'd have to have some pretty
good mates to do that. You are not
a bad person. No, definitely
not. And please update us because I really need to know what happens.
Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.
Today's fact of the day is about the price.
You know how silver is now like a more expensive metal than gold?
Like pure silver.
I didn't know that.
It's worth more than gold, yeah.
Sometimes they show that on the news with the pointy up or down arrow.
They're like, gold is up, blah, blah, blah.
Pure silver is worth more.
Because I was always a silver girl because it's cheaper.
You know?
You find like earrings
and stuff
and it's like expensive
and gold and cheaper.
Diluted.
Oh okay sweet.
That's still going to be cheap.
That mixed with aluminium.
Plastic.
He mixed with old coke cans.
Yeah yeah yeah.
Just turned inside out
so you can't see the coke label.
Yeah.
And then glowed together.
Sweet.
Just like sprayed
with a silver spray paint.
So the thing about silver though
it is $538
for a kg
of silver. Okay. But
the, that doesn't
seem right does it? That's pretty cheap.
I could buy a kg.
Are you missing a zero? You were telling us the
500 and something bucks for a kg.
I could buy a kg of silver if I put mine to it.
I don't know what I'd do with it.
Very expensive doorstop.
I could chip a little bit off, put it on my teeth.
Buy a KG and get some jewellery made.
Silver prices today, according to Google, $487 for a kilo.
That's in US.
No, that's New Zealand.
Well, I've got...
Well, this fact isn't going to stand up, is it?
Because it's a...
Actually, it still does.
It still does.
My fact previous about it being more expensive than gold doesn't.
Because how much is gold, KG?
Heaps.
Pure gold.
Heaps.
Oh, New Zealand dollar is $739.
So that was a Google.com.
Oh, right.
But still, gold worth more than silver.
Who to guess?
Everyone that's ever seen the Olympics won.
Yeah, okay.
No, fair call.
Fair call.
Every single person would have put gold above silver.
I don't know.
What'd you go wrong with that for?
One kilogram of gold is worth $61,000.
Is that all?
Yeah.
Is this your fact of the day, that silver's worth $1,000?
No, no, no, it's not to do with silver and gold,
but I was miles out with that.
So the actual fact of the day is that per kg,
vanilla is more expensive than silver.
Is that from vanilla pods?
Yeah, legit vanilla, not vanilla essence.
Vanilla essence.
Extract.
I know, because, you know, one time I was in the supermarket
or somewhere and I splashed out for a real nice vanilla essence.
Yeah.
Extract, not essence.
Yeah.
Because essence is the ones they get from the beavers.
The beavers.
Wait, are they still doing that?
Is vanilla essence still from beavers' butts?
Oh, no, they can use vanilla flavouring.
They can use the, I mean, this has been a previous fact of the day,
but if you didn't hear it, the anal gland of the beaver
can be used to produce a vanilla-esque flavour.
Yeah.
And it has been used previously.
But we haven't got there yet, have we?
So next time you're tucking into a nice vanilla ice cream you could just
be licking a very cold beaver's anus.
Just keep that in mind. This is why I don't
do vanilla.
That's how you steer away from Hokey Pokey
because they flashed it up. It's worth that extra few dollars
for the real deal.
The price of vanilla US dollars
$515. Yeah.
Per kg. Per kg. Yeah.
So vanilla had a record high lately because of global warming.
Vanillas were getting harder to grow in traditional vanilla areas
because not only is it harder to grow,
but also they get hit by bigger storms that wipe out entire crops of vanilla.
Well, there's a news headline that came up underneath this price
saying the bittersweet cost of Madagascar's vanilla boom.
Because they had to cut down a lot of forest in Madagascar to put the vanilla in.
Oh my God, they still use beavers.
It's called castoreum, and it's used in raspberry and strawberry too.
So that's my favourite ice cream down the drain.
They don't, Megan, they're not tip-top aren't squeezing beaver anus glands into ice cream.
They're still using it.
To this day, Fletch.
No.
I just did a Google and it never lies to me.
It's all chemical flavouring.
But don't worry, they're only doing it to the beavers that like it.
They ask them first.
You can tell by the look on their face.
Well, look at my face.
Or like, ooh, hello
And I show my beaver teeth
And that beaver goes through
And the beaver's like, I'll hang around
But a wood to chew, you can take as much as you want
But vanilla essence is what, watered down?
So it's cheaper?
The essence of vanilla, no
It's chemicals to make it taste like vanilla
It's vanilla extract, that's the legit Oh right, okay Yeah, because I was making something to make it taste like vanilla. It's vanilla extract that's the legit.
Oh, right, okay.
Yeah, because I was making something once,
and it was like, do not use vanilla essence.
And I was like, oh, and I hadn't even thought about it.
And I went to the supermarket, and I was like,
I shall be using vanilla essence.
Have you seen how expensive that is?
Yeah, because it's...
And that's why, because vanilla per kg
is more expensive than silver.
And that's today's fact of the day.
Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.
Hey, the TripAdvisor list of this is the traveller's choice category.
This is beaches.
Okay.
New Zealand has done okay.
Because this is the thing
we're only really talking about
the top 10 New Zealand beaches,
but like worldwide,
I went down to like 40
and I didn't find any of our beaches.
Really?
But we have so many.
But then I saw like the top 20 were amazing.
Oh, yeah.
I've been to a couple that always make like...
Oh, okay. I've been to a couple that always make, like, Okay.
I've been to a couple
that always make it on the list.
But they are incredible.
But then,
And the weather never gets cold.
These are year-round beaches,
whereas,
I mean,
you can surf
at the number one
New Zealand beach,
but it's cold.
Yeah, but then,
I'd be like,
Like,
I might be a bit,
like,
biased,
but Kaiteri
is like,
that bay is just so beautiful.
Oh, that's very beautiful.
Gold sand.
It's just,
it's so incredible.
Yeah.
Well, the top 10 New Zealand beaches
have been announced.
The number one,
do you want me to do that thing
where I start like 10 and go?
I was about to say,
do you know how lists work?
90 mile beach.
90 mile beach is number 10.
Okay.
Never been there.
Never swam.
See people driving down it.
That'd be enough to put me off.
It's not 90 miles.
The sandboarding is pretty cool.
Is it not 90 miles?
It's only like 45.
I think it was just a guess.
It's misleading.
Yeah, it was a guess back in the day.
Oriental Bay in Wellington is number nine.
Can't beat Wellington on a good day.
It's a beautiful beach, but it's like Mission Bay in Auckland.
They pump that sand in, don't they?
The lovely sand.
Am I correct in saying that?
Well, I hope you are, or they'll have you for slander.
I'm going to Google.
That's like a city beach though.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
That's the positive of it, I guess.
It's lovely.
It's close to everything.
Before you accuse me, it's lovely.
Pilot Bay in Mount Maunganui.
Do you have something to say, Fetch?
I found an article.
Yes.
Sorry, I just subtly interrupted there.
I found a stuff article dated June 16, 2015, and it's entitled,
Oriental Bay Gets a Fresh Batch of Sand.
How often are they getting a batch of sand?
Are they due for another one?
I don't know.
It was shipped from Aquarian Dunedin.
What?
And it cost $400,000.
Your sand's got a lot there.
Is it white?
It's a nice sand.
It's a lovely sand to oriental.
Doesn't it have like bits of stones in it?
When you say quarry, I always just assume like big dump trucks and stuff.
Yeah, right.
Okay, that's nice.
Our number eight is Pilot Bay in Mount Monganoo.
That's the harbour side.
That's go down by the boat ramp there under the mount.
That's where, I don't know if they still do, but the hot water used to come out from the hot pools
and you could sit on that.
It was like the warmest part of the beach.
Yeah.
Sit on the outlet.
Kaiteri Beach.
Kaiteri Tere Beach is number seven.
Not high enough.
On the list.
No, it's not.
Whangamata Beach is number six on the list of the top ten New Zealand beaches.
That's a great beach. Great beach, but ten New Zealand beaches. That's a great beach.
Great beach, but Kainteri's better.
That's a beautiful beach.
Number five.
Now, this is a very, very, very contentious.
Okay.
Ohope Beach.
I used to holiday there as a kid.
The beach is crazy.
It goes deep real quick.
And one time when we were there, someone saw a shark.
And I have not swam there since.
It's a beautiful spot, though.
Is it? I don't think I've been since. It's a beautiful spot, though. Is it?
I've never been there.
It's so dangerous.
It goes deep real quick.
And we don't broadcast a fuck a ton, so have at.
It's a shit house.
It's rubbish.
Number four, Papamoa Beach.
Beautiful beach.
Beautiful.
Is it better than Kaiteri?
I think so.
It's got the nudist part.
That you always used to try to find as a kid.
You're like,
let's just keep walking.
They said there was a nudist beach down here,
but I just think it was what your parents told you to get rid of for an hour.
Well, you don't have to drive far out
from Kiteri to get to a nudist.
To get to a nudist beach, yeah.
And in your mind,
the nudist beach is always going to be
like real hot people,
but then you get there
and it's some old saggy balls.
Hey, it's my parents.
It's Megan's parents.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I meant that in a nice way.
You haven't seen Dad's balls.
You don't know?
Well, you obviously have, so what are they like?
This is actually TripAdvisor.
They've got their own review.
Warren's balls.
Papamo Beach, number four, beautiful beach.
We used to go shellfish, go for a little, some pippies off there.
Oh, good times, good times.
Hot Water Beach, isn't it number three?
Yeah.
That can be a dangerous beach with the old rips there.
And also people dig a hole and then just jump right in
and it's like scorching hot and they catch on fire.
But I can see why because it's TripAdvisor.
So these are your most popular.
And like that's unique.
Yeah, that is.
Number two in New Zealand,
the top ten beaches, Piha Beach.
No. Piha Beach is
lovely. It's rugged. It's that west
coast rugged beach and it's the only like real
rugged beach that makes an appearance on the list. Black sand sucks. I don't care
what anyone says. That just burns.
Black sand burns your feet all the time.
No, not down for it. And it's
rough. It's very dangerous.
Yeah, that's my problem with it. Literally, so all the reviews are like, the other one so far, gem of for it. And it's rough. It's very dangerous. Yeah, that's my problem with it.
Literally, so all the reviews are like,
the other ones so far,
gem of a beach,
wonderful place to go with the kids,
awesome beach to catch some waves,
one of two of New Zealand's best beaches.
These are all like the reviews.
The Piha review is,
I swam, please be careful.
Yeah, it's not a glowing review, is it?
No.
And the number one beach
In New Zealand
If you're kind of
A bit of a beach
If you're working it out
There's only one left
The Mount Maunganui
Main beach
It is
It's always up there
Isn't it
It's beautiful
It's so good
Especially that view
When you climb the mount
Looking down
Yeah
Get a gram
You should definitely
Take a photo
Because I've never seen
What it looks like
From the top
On Instagram
Never
No
Like if you've walked
All the way up there, guys,
you take a photo to show everybody that you accomplished it.
You took a photo up there?
Yeah, no, but I only put it on story.
It's me.
I didn't make it in post.
There's a big difference.
Do you have the top beach in the world?
You said there was like a global list.
I have top ten beaches in the world.
The number one beach to try to get to is Baia do Sancho.
It's in Brazil.
As you walk through a small trail,
you can't imagine what awaits you. The heavenly view
seems like a mirage.
That's the number one beach in the world.
What about the one in Coromandel?
That beach where you walk to?
Is it Coromandel Cove?
The one you walk to
and it's got the archway that you're not supposed to walk under anymore. Cathedral Cove. Cathedral Cove. Oh, Moanimana. The one you walk to and it's got the archway that you're not supposed
to walk under anymore.
Cathedral Cove.
Cathedral Cove.
That's beautiful.
Yeah, but does that
have a hot Brazilian?
Yeah, I was going to say
it's lacking one thing.
Boazilians.
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