ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - March 29 2019

Episode Date: March 28, 2019

Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern is on the phone, Helen and Rosie from Heartbreak Island are in studio and your local takeaway legends.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

ZM. Head music lives here. Flesh for Nemean. The podcast. Thank you, Anya. What is wrong with the world in your news bulletin? 13-year-olds that don't like junk food? And Brunei? But you can't even cheat on your wife and you'll get stoned to death. Especially if you cheat on your wife with a dude.

Well, you'd get double stoned to death. Pinch something on the way out of his house You get your arms cut off on the way out as well Well yeah because if you steal something You get that limb cut off apparently Do you think It's 2019 On the 13 year olds

Who don't like the junk food Do you reckon it's because when I was 13 We never had takeaways So when you did get it You just wanted it because it was something you couldn't have. But access to it is so much easier now. Do you reckon? Maybe.

No, you just see it and you're like, yeah, that looks good. I mean, we still had dairies and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, true. But you're saying there's more advertising now, do you think? No, and just easier access. Yeah. Like there are more places and...

More fast food. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's still places and more fast food. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's still the same for country kids who grew up in the middle of rural New Zealand. Well, yeah,

we could literally go down the road to the corner dairy. You had to go like... I remember when I lived in a flat and you could smell KFC from the flat.

That was so dangerous. It was like a burly trail. Yeah. Just wind you right in. It's a little bit of burly. Little bit of burly. Little bit. Yeah. Just wind you right in. It's a little bit of burly. Little bit of what? Little bit. No.

Just a little bit of burly. I just did that to make you angry, Megan, because I don't know how. You know what? It's got an omega-3. It's got omega-6. And you know what they don't tell you about? It's definitely in there. You know what they don't tell you about, don't you?

You know what they don't tell you about? Omega-4. Omega-5. And omega-1, omega-2. They don't tell you about... It's definitely in there. You know what they don't tell you about, don't you? You know what they don't tell you about? Omega 4. Omega 5. And Omega 1, Omega 2. Oh, my God, Omega 12. Don't you forget about it. Coming up on the show, the top sex.

You bet your bottom dollar. All right, you lot, listen up. It's story time. Story time, three news headlines for three stories. I don't know where Vaughan is. Vaughan does this. He wanders off to get some water or to go to the toilet. I don't know which one it is. And he never checks the time.

He never checks how long is left in the song. It's a short song. That's the problem. That's okay. I can choose without him. A lot of short songs at the moment. The layout of Troye Sivan, so it's two and a short song. That's the problem. That's okay. I can choose without him. A lot of short songs at the moment.

The layout of Troy Savant is two and a half minutes. Yeah. He probably thought I've got four minutes here. I've got three, three and a half. If he doesn't want to be

a part of the choosing then that's fine. It's just the one song. Yeah, it's a short song. Yeah, it's a short song. Why did you go halfway through the song to make a coffee?

I had to bloody hunt for a cup. Hunt for a cup. I felt literally like a hunter stalking the cup. No cups in the dishwasher. Really?

And then, halfway around the corner I find a trolley with cups in it. Now, what are they doing? It's the old male trolley. What's it doing with cups in it?

I don't know. You can imagine my confusion. Yeah, well, I can see how you got lost. Security guard wanted to chat about it. Right. So I felt obliged to just quickly mention that I didn't feel they belonged in a trolley. Okay, well

all the time just know that you've got a radio show that's happening at the same time. It's not going anywhere. Okay. Literally and figuratively. I just don't feel like we're making any headway. Ever feel like we're getting up early for nothing i feel like we're just bashing our head against the wall every morning you need a weekend don't you need a big sleep i know i need my prescription painkillers all right uh so three news headlines for story time vaughn and megan pick one of the following three, now that you're both here. Headline one, a millennial's dream.

Headline two, why you shouldn't candle and drive. And headline three, boobs down Amsterdam Canal. So the boobs down the Amsterdam Canal, that was an art installation, and they were floating boobies. Were they just boobies? Correct. A couple of big floating boobies.

They look hyper-mache. They have great big floating boobies. They look paper mache. They have great art installations down the count. I thought you were going to say they had great nipples. But no, I'll be the judge of that. What do I type? I'll be the judge. Damn. I shouldn't be the judge.

I shouldn't be the judge, jury, and executioner of nipples. You just be happy with what you got. And people like different. Yeah, and you can't change those once you've been given them. You can't change your areole. No, you can't. Or can you? Medically.

Embrace your areole. I think you can. Oh, I can. Do you know what? They're all different. They're very expensive. Yeah, they are. We should embrace our differences.

No, the boobs on the canal. Oh, are they? The actual art installation. Oh, is there heaps of different ones? Yeah. There's a cluster. There's a cluster of boobs. Oh, yeah, a cluster of boobs.

They're all very different. It's inclusive. I like that. Okay, well, you've talked about that one. So do you want. It's a cluster of boobies and they're all very different. It's inclusive for like that. Okay, well you've talked about that one. So do you want story one, a millennial's dream or two, why you shouldn't

candle and drive? Candling is a ear candling? Are they doing the ear candling? No. What's candling? Just like lighting a candle.

Having candles in your car. What sort of moron is doing that? Get a Glade plug on. Yeah, sure. You clip it on. He wanted the ambiance. Dad's got one in his ute.

You clip it onto the fan and when you turn the fan on, you get a face full of Glade. Of lavender. I couldn't imagine anything better. Millennial's Dream. Millennial's Dream? I think. Okay.

We go now to the Northern Rivers of New South Wales and Aussie Orchards Managing Director Colin Foster. He is speaking out after a hailstorm hit the orchard last week and he has reported that 80% of his 12,000 avocado trees were absolutely smashed. I thought you said a millennial's dream. It should be a millennial's nightmare. No, it's a millennial's dream. Oh, because there are smackers.

Smashed avocado everywhere. Apparently 80% of the fruit, of the avocados were gone. The hail lasted only 10 minutes, but they were big enough to knock the fruit off the tree and damage any remaining fruit.

He said it's all pretty unsalvageable. Even for guacamole? Well, unless you want to get down with a spoon. I know, you'd need to do it real quick. Is there any sort of frozen avocado product? Maybe a freeze. No, because they wouldn't have even been ripe. You might have to freeze a ripe,

and you can use like a mousse. You can make a mousse. You can get chilled, those chilled pouches of avo. Can you? Yeah, a mousse. You can make a mousse. You can get chilled those chilled pouches of avo. Can you? Yeah. But I don't know

if it would freeze well. Yeah, because you could buy lots of avo when it's like 50 cents or three for a dollar or whatever and freeze it. But I don't know

if you can. You need to preserve or something because it'll go brown. Do you put lemon in there? Yeah, put some lemon in there. Because that stops it going, I don't know.

There'd be a fine balance between going brown and being too lemony. Well, it's a sad day. Well, that's not the only thing. We've got avocado woes of our own back home. Have you heard about this beetle? Oh, yeah.

It's this beetle that destroys avocado trees. They've found it in New Zealand. It's called a granulate ambrosia beetle, which is unfair because it's named after a delicious dessert. But it could wreak havoc such as. Right. Right. Yeah. So detected in five Auckland areas lately.

And your area? Is your avocado tree I got you safe? Safe as houses. Okay. I haven't checked it for the beetles. I haven't gone out and given it a... How do I check it? For a moment there,

I thought you left it at your old house. Megan's tree that she gave you. No, because she gave it to us after we had our fuel. That was my investment in my future, that tree. She's good playing. Not if you get a beetle. It's the Vaughan Smith Kiwi Sabre, but it could all come crashing down with a beetle.

Goddamn beetles! ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. A study has been done into what colours are the best for sleep. So this is for your bedroom. Oh, I've just got white walls. Wouldn't most people have white? Yeah, I've got white. Maybe yours is white?

Yeah. I think so. Yeah. There's some brown bits on the roof. They're supposed to be there, they're wood. I don't want any of those large brown stains that I'm ignoring. So the study's looked into different colours of bedrooms and how they affect your sleep.

And there's one colour that stands out as the best colour to paint your bedroom. Is it like a pastel-y colour, like a blue or green? It is a pastel-y blue. Boom. 58% of people with a blue wall wake up feeling happy and refreshed. So apparently the colour blue is connected to water, sea and sky and it's very restful. So second is green. So soft blues and greens and then ones with a hint of magenta, lilac and mew.

Mew. Mew. Mew. Mew. If you had a magenta wall That's not gonna Be restful I wouldn't have thought Why any kind of violent

Bright colours But Yeah Red Purple Brown Gold And grey

You should refrain From painting your bedroom Grey Yeah I thought it would've been Close enough to sort of Neutral to be Alright

It's the idea When you're getting ready for bed You've got the light on You're seeing that pastel blue It's calming Grey. I thought it would have been close enough to sort of neutral to be alright. It's the idea when you're getting ready for bed, you've got the light on, you're seeing that pastel blue. It's calming. But then, like, when you've got the light off, it's all the same, isn't it? Yeah. It's just dark, isn't it? Like, yeah. I never thought about that.

What difference does it make when it's dark and your eyes are closed. Unless you're lying on your bed wanting an afternoon nap. It would be. You can see the blue. It would be the relaxing pre-sleep. And then maybe when you turn the light on when you wake up or when you see the colour when you wake up. We're undoing that by staring at our phone screen, which is the reason we're all not sleeping properly.

I've had a no phone in bed rule. I've been running this for a solid two weeks. Okay. When I go to bed, I go to bed like I don't look at my phone. I check the time. I'm like running this for a solid two weeks. Okay. When I go to bed, I go to bed like I don't look at my phone. I check the time, I'm like,

okay, it's nine o'clock. Phone down and I haven't been on my phone. Yeah. And how's that going? Really good. You get to sleep so much quicker. Which is never a problem

because we're always so tired we go to sleep real quick. But you do, like, honestly, you do. Is it a rule for the bedroom so Sade's not allowed to leave? Well, last night, because Sade doesn't usually come to bed when I go to bed.

Last night she did. And I said, hey, how about you try... You can see where this is going. How about you try not staring at your phone? Because she'll even come to bed after me, but still just stare at her phone for ages in bed. I'm like, it's not good. It's not good for you.

Yeah. And she's like, you do it all the time. And I said, well, actually, for the last two weeks, I haven't been doing it. And I've got to sleep a lot. But yeah, because she's always like, I'm so tired. I had such a terrible sleep. It's like you stare at your phone for an hour and a half

before you finally put your head down and shut your eyes. Yeah. It's just, it is. It's so much better to not. Because what is it? It's the blue light. And now you can put it on to night mode. But still, you're staring directly.

So blue light on your phone is bad, but blue walls in your bedroom is good for sleep. Even though the lights are off. No, blue light on your phone is good. They make it blue light. So like they take it off. No, the blue light's bad. No, the blue light's the one that keeps you awake.

Oh, okay. The bright blue light, that's why it's more orangey. When you put the night mode on, yeah, it's more orangey. Right. Yeah. It is so funny how personally you take when someone tells you, like, oh, you've been on your phone a lot. No, I haven't.

You can talk. That's the one that always gets thrown out of the house. It's like, I'm just saying. I was just saying. You can talk. From the ZM Think Tank, this is the top six. Synthetic alcohol could be less than five years away, apparently. I think we've mentioned this before.

It's a fake alcohol that'll get you buzzed but never drunk in the same way. It doesn't have the downsides of boozing. How do we feel? So you still get... Well, it targets all the positives of... Debatable. All the positives of booze. It ups the serotonin.

Right. Maybe pulls back that, makes you a bit more ambitious. So you're still drunk. But you got your buzz on. You know that pleasant aspect of it when you kind of got your buzz on and you're kind of enjoying it before you just get sloppy. But you're not drunk. Apparently.

But you are drunk. So without the debilitating hangovers, the heart disease, or the various cancers that are associated to alcohol. Right. So could you drive after synthetic alcohol? Don't know. I wouldn't think so because it's still impairing your judgment.

Right, okay. A little bit. But it can get rid of the hangover, but these are the top six things synthetic alcohol won't fix. Number six, it won't fix that it's 11am on a Tuesday and you're at work.

Just because it's synthetic, it doesn't make it okay to drink it in the staff meeting, Janice. Yeah, it does not make it okay. What do you have in there, Janice? Synthetic vodka and orange? That's morning! I find if you put your red wine in a coffee cup, no one will know. No one will notice. is synthetic vodka and orange? That's morning.

I find if you put your red wine in a coffee cup, no one will know. No one will notice. Put anything in a coffee cup. Yeah. No one will know. Rum and Coke is a real treat in a coffee cup. It just looks like black coffee.

Yeah. With a couple of bubbles. Number five on the list of the top six things synthetic alcohol won't fix are the fact that you broke the glass on the workplace photocopier with your ass while trying to send your butthole to the CEO. You still did that. Yeah. It doesn't matter what alcohol

real or synthetic made you do it. You still broke the glass. I'd like to think our CEO would be alright with that. Yeah, I was thinking he'd be amused. Maybe, yeah, I don't know. Only one way to find out. Spread them. Spread them out and get on the photocopier.

I'll burst you up. And you hold onto my shoulder to take a bit of the weight. Megan, you're in charge of pushing the button. That's right by his balls. Go. Oh, no,

because at our workplace you swipe your swipe card, eh? Yeah. Right, okay. Thanks for swiping mine. It's traceable. Yeah. Plus, you've got

a very recognisable butthole, please. Number four on the list. I didn't even know how to respond to that. I think it was a compliment. Was it a compliment? I think so. Okay, I'll take that.

The top six things synthetic alcohol won't fix. Number four, your chat to the Uber driver isn't going to be any better than your traditional booze chat. What time do you start tonight? Long night? Busy. Busy? Almost done? What do you do?

Apart from this. This is all you do. What do you do if someone requests you over and you just wanted to go home and they're going the other way? I've asked that before. What was the answer? I don't know. Because it's a gamble for them because they could turn around

and they don't get much money from you. Because they don't know when they click except where that ride's going. Right. But maybe they can say where they want to go. I don't know how it works. Number three on the list of the top six things synthetic alcohol won't fix. It might be synthetic, but it's still absinthe. Oh, yuck.

Forehead a little moment. What's the other one? There's absinthe. Chartreuse. That's the worst. Oh, yeah, that's horrible. Chartreuse. When have you had a little moment. What's the other one? There's abs. Chartreuse. That's the worst. Oh, yeah, that's horrible. Chartreuse. When have you had a night on Chartreuse?

Not a night. One. And I'm like, Jet fuel. Yeah, awful. Number two on the list of the top six things synthetic alcohol won't fix. It's not going to stop you demolishing all the snacks that stand in your path when you get home. That's like, I don't know, I'm just going to eat the demolishing all the snacks that stand in your path when you get home.

It's like, I'm just going to eat the noodles dry. I don't have time to cook them. Wake up in the morning, your mouth's bleeding. You've lost a tooth. You're like, what did I eat? Two minute noodles uncooked. I'm a monster. And the number one thing on today's top six things synthetic alcohol won't fix.

It can't unsend the pathetic text message you sent to your ex last night, giving them all the power in this not relationship relationship. Yes. Aren't you hate when you hand away power? Yeah. When the drunken secure text,

you're like, damn it. I was so weak at the time. I've been a fool. That is today's top six. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast ZM. There is a call, six. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. There is a call, this is based out of Australia, that the term cyclist should not be used anymore.

And I thought that was ridiculous. I thought that's preposterous. It dehumanises people who cycle, which is what the people who ride bikes or people that cycle is what we should call them instead of cyclists. Now, you might think that's ridiculous out there. You know, the outset of it. So there was a study in Australia,

and they used the word cyclist, and they said that people who answered who drive cars don't ride bikes, so this wasn't people who fall within the cyclist category, considered cyclists not completely human. The term dehumanised humans who choose to use their legs to power wheels to get from point A to point B, they said the term cyclist dehumanised them and when it dehumanises something, you put less value on it,

thus you'll drive past it quicker or closer. Oh, no. Or you'll be angry at it. You can see it's a human more than you can a car. Because a car just looks like a car. You can't see someone driving it. Whereas you can see the person on the bike. I know, but the term cyclist, they said,

was a dehumanised term. So what is it? Do you think it's better if you call a cyclist? Like, do they have some options? They said what they think would work best is people who ride bikes, leading with people, because that immediately establishes them as a fellow human being, that ride bikes. Because when I first heard it, I was like, well, this is ridiculous.

But then reading more about it, it's actually, like, terrible. There's a dehumanisation trait scale. And so there was including statements like, I feel cyclists aren't sophisticated. One, totally disagree. Five, completely agree. I feel cyclists are mechanical. Completely agree.

And so people were like, oh yeah, cyclists. They're mechanical. And it takes away the human, so you're driving and you're like, bloody cyclists. And you say it with negative terms enough that it dehumanises them and you start putting less value on that person's life because they've chose to ride a bike. Now, I was totally on the team where I thought this was ridiculous,

but now I've read more about why. I'm like, oh, my gosh. But why don't you just then go, bloody people who ride bikes. But you're saying people. But you're saying people. But you're saying people. True. People. But the term cyclist has been dehumanised.

Right. And because generally when you pass a cyclist, you're passing them from behind so you can't see their face. Yeah. And they say when you take a face out of it, and it's just the shape on a bike, you can't see arms, you can see the legs going up and down. Yeah. And they said all these things that kind of add up, And it's just the shape on a bike. You can't see arms. You can see the legs going up and down. But yeah.

And they said all these things that kind of add up where you put less value on it and you might screen past them faster or not give them as wide a berth because in your mind, even subconsciously, you've dehumanized cyclists. That's crazy.

I'm still going to be like people who ride bikes where those stupid clippy cloppy shows and people who ride bikes shouldn't walk out in public with those spandex bike pants on. It's actually a good point. If they want to be more human, they should stop walking like a horse. I've got a friend that actually loves those spandex shorts.

For cycling or just for hanging out? No, just loves seeing people in spandex. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I personally, I'm probably with you, Mimi. Not everybody. Not everybody needs to see that, but some people do. Some people do like it. I'm just saying appreciate it, yeah. Okay. yeah, yeah. I mean, I personally, I'm probably with you, Megan. Not everybody. Not everybody needs to see that, but some people do. Some people do like it.

I'm just saying appreciate it, yeah. Okay. Well, that's interesting. Not going to kink shame. Sort of like window shopping, isn't it? I guess it is, yeah. ZM's Fletch Warner Megan, the podcast. Joining us in studio, one from across the hall,

one from a beanbag in the studio, Phil and Matt. Good morning. Hello. Hey, thanks so much for having us, guys. No, not a problem at all. Who's doing your radio show while we're on here at the moment? That's a great question. Jeremy Wells, I imagine.

Just solo for a little bit. I'm sort of a third wheel on that show anyway, so he can just do it without me. So this new series, Welcome to Cardboard City, is a continuation of the short film Fire in Cardboard City. That's right. The award-winning film Fire in Cardboard City. That's right, the award winning film Fire in Cardboard City set in the same universe

so it's basically a world all made out of cardboard, everything's cardboard, all the people are cardboard and the original idea me and Phil had years ago was a terrible thing in a cardboard city would be a fire so it's based around the antics of the Cardboard City Fire Department and so then once you've done fire

then the series continues on a couple of other disasters. Right, because even if, spoiler alert, people who haven't seen it, the water that they use to put out the fire in Cardboard City is cardboard. Yeah, that's right. Exponentially spreads and worsens. Well, in the movie,

they try and put out a real fire from the real human world with cardboard water, but cardboard water world with cardboard water, but cardboard water burns with real water, and so it burns right up and blows up their fire truck. But at the end of the movie, we were promised flood in cardboard city. Yes. That's right. It's too difficult to do and too annoying.

Yeah, yeah. So we've skipped flood and we've gone to Robot Attack, and it's a kids' show on Hey Hey. Robot Attack and the second one is show on Hey Hey. Robot Attack and the second one is Meteor Attack in this series. Because the first one

we wouldn't say necessarily targeted at children because there's a report somebody jumps out of a burning building and goes through helicopter blades

and my children are like oh my god, what happened? That's right, that's one of the things wasn't it Phil? They said we cannot go that far. Tone down the cardboard corners. It's still, oh my god what happened that's right that's one of the things wasn't it Phil they said we cannot go that far

but um tone down the cardboard it still you know it plays at kids festivals and often gets in at kids festivals so

they don't really mind but uh yeah with TV they were like you can't chop people into pieces they're a bit like that they get like that

don't they so there's been a bit of attention overseas as well for the short film. Well, Phil Bruffier got flown first class to New York by Matt Stone and Trey Parker from South Park because they loved the film

and they wanted to chat about it and tell them how much they loved it. What did they want to talk about it? Well, I couldn't quite work that out once I was there. They just wanted to hang out. And they're so rich, they just fly them in first class. Yeah, they just come on over and hang out. And so we hung out.

And then I left and went, I don't know what that was about, but it was kind of cool. Well, I think they saw a kindred kind of thing because, you know, they've got two-dimensional bits of paper is how they started. So they see, they saw cardboard, you know, they thought the film was funny. Was that just surreal? Yeah, it was pretty, pretty, it was just, actually it was quite mellow though. I thought I'd really sort of, you know, I don't know, freak out,

but instead it was just like, this is nice, and we just hung and chatted and it was cool. Did you ask for any South Park voices? No, nothing, no, but no, they gave me a T-shirt and a hat. And a first class flyer. What I like about Phil flying over there, because we're such pieces of crap that he was just lining up for his normal flight and assuming they're flying me economy, and then someone came over and said uh

you're first class yeah yeah yeah yeah come over here a number of drinks even before the plane took off pretty good yeah yeah it's a one-up from business yeah wow i got to lie down that's a very new zealand thing that as you're achieving some kind of international success, you're more focused on low-level things like you've got a free flight. And a drink before take-off. Two to three drinks. And Whoopi Goldberg's a fan as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because she does the Tribeca Film Festival and she curates all the animation

and she was just like, yeah, really into it and said, I love this film. She yelled it out on stage at Tribeca, didn't she? She said, I love this film. Wow. So how long are the episodes

of Welcome to Cardboard City? So they're five minute episodes. Right. Yeah. And how many have you got? Only about? Ten. But we're launching with five.

Okay. And people can find that? At HeyHey. Download the app which is a new TVNZ kids platform and also at HeyHey.NZ so, which is a new TVNZ kids platform and also at heyhey.nz so you can watch those first five episodes and other

five episodes come out in a week. Awesome. And it's for kids. But for adults too. There's some jokes that the adults will get as well. Potentially. Awesome. Matt and Phil, thanks for coming in. Thank you. Thanks guys. Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast, ZM.

Cheesy Wheezies. Cheesy Wheezies. Not a cute nickname for Jesus either. Okay, Cheesy Wheezies. Oh, come on, Cheesy Wheezies. Do your homework. That's kind of maybe what happened. That's what Jesus' fans are called.

Oh, the Cheesy Wheezies. Like Yeezys. Yeah. Yeah, Jesus is Yeezys and he's having some cheesy wheezy. Yeah. The cheesy wheezy is, let me describe this for you, traditional hot chip, your hot chip that you get from the fish and chipper. Hot chip and then it's covered with mayonnaise and grated cheese

and then a little bit of sauce on top. So they're like loaded fries. The ultimate loaded fries, yeah. But these are famous in one particular area because I'd never heard of this. They believe the origin is in the Bay of Plenty. Okay. Now, fish and chip shops in the South Island are claiming it. This could be, there could be sort of like a turf war.

The start of a civil war? Over this. Now, I remember them at La Hacienta. Oh, okay. In Whangamata as a teenager. But what did they call them? Chips, cheese and mayo. Oh, okay.

There wasn't like a big flashy name for it. Cheesy Wheezy. And for other people that spent their youth in Whangamata in the 90s, early 2000s, and then La Hacienta just disappeared. Mexican restaurant theme, well before its time. Okay. Is Cheesy Wheezy's Mexican? Is Chip's Cheese and Mayo a Mexican dish?

No, very little on there. La Hacienda menu was Mexican. I never saw anybody eating a taco there, for example. Right. There might have just been mints. Okay. That moved to Tikawiti in what can only be described as a very puzzling move. Very puzzling move. Are they still

in Tikawiti? I think so. I wouldn't wish to comment. Okay. But we always just called it chips, cheese and mayo. So even back, that was the late 90s. Not called Cheesy Wheezy's but the very same dish. Okay. Under

a different name. Right. But the Cheesy Wheezy's, but the very same dish. Okay. Under a different name. Right. But the Cheesy Wheezy is very popular. It's been written about in international travel magazines and blogs that it's a must-try when you go to New Zealand. Described as, think hot chips doused in mayo and topped with melted cheese, a fat-laden stack of carbs wrapped in newspaper and disguised as a delicious accompaniment to your bedded fish.

These will not be receiving the Heart Foundation tick of approval. No. No, they certainly won't. God, they sound so good, though. Yeah. And, like, the longer you leave it. Yeah. I was just going to show you that exact photo.

The longer you leave it, the more mushier and more cheesy, meltier it gets. My God, that is so much mayo. It's making my heart feel a bit sluggish. Yeah. It's a thick mayo too. It's not a drizzly mayo. It's not a French dressing. Yeah. And no time, no room for any of that healthy stuff.

But we wanted to know off the back of the Cheesy Wheezy or the Chips, Chees and Mayo as it used to be called. What your local takeaways, like special signature dishes Oh okay Like we should be sharing these around Not

Yeah Keeping heart disease and obesity To one specific region of New Zealand We should all have the opportunity to Where was famous for that chicken In Hamilton Wong's Yeah right

Wong's chicken Because we stopped there ages ago And I had some and it was good It was great chicken It was great chicken. It was good chicken, yeah. Phenomenal chicken. It's good that I don't live close to that. We're very lucky we don't live any closer than that.

Although people would probably drive for it. People do travel. I think they do. People do travel. Somebody else said that that's pretty much the same in Waihe Beach, but for a little bit of a twist, tartare sauce. No. On your chippies?

Yeah. I'm down for that. I love tartare. What's different about tartare sauce? It's got a tang. It's got like Yeah. I'm down for that. I love tartare. What's different about tartare sauce? It's got a tang. It's got like a gherkin-y tang. I love a tang. Is that what it is?

It's the pickles and the tang. No. But lemon juice. But more lemon juice. No, I can have it on my chips. No time for tartare. Even on fish. Get out of here.

Oh, and a few text messages in from people who remember the Fungimata legendary establishment, La Hacientas. This sprung up in the news yesterday. Bay of Plenty slash South Island delicacy. I mean, it's not real. I mean, we've all probably had some form of this. Yeah.

In one form or another. But it's grated cheese on hot chips with mayonnaise. Yeah. So it's got us talking about your local takeaway go-tos, the local delicacies. Murupara. Apparently a hotspot for out there takeaways. Okay.

They call it blood and guts. Now, we've had a lot of calls about this. Rachel. Good morning. Blood and guts. What is it? So I grew up in Rotorua, so quite close to Murupara. Yeah.

And it was called blood and guts as well. And what you did is they added tomato sauce to it as well. So you got chips, cheese, mayonnaise. Mayonnaise. Yeah. And tomato sauce. Yeah. That would be called blood and guts.

So good. So good. Now, people are saying they couldn't eat a whole one, but that sounds ridiculous. Oh, it did get pretty sickly after a while. You had to definitely share it with your friends. Well, somebody just said their Uber Eats just got a new neighbourhood takeaway in it and they saw cheesy wheezes on there,

so they were like, I've got to, to relive my childhood. Got one, could only eat half of it and felt like they were going to have a heart attack. So they said they consoled themselves with a couple of crab sticks that they also ordered. Brilliant. Thanks, you call Rachel.

Lauren, what's your local takeaway go-to? Kaitaia. There's a takeaway in Kaitaia that does chips with the works

and the works was sour cream, cheese, garlic butter and tomato sauce. Oh my God, garlic butter. Hello, garlic butter.

Hello, garlic butter. How sauce. Oh, my God, garlic butter. Hello, garlic butter. How have we never thought of that? I used to say at school whenever we had it for shared lunches that you could feel your arteries clogging as you were eating it. Yeah. And then they're like, all right, PA after lunch. Everyone's like, no. Because what, would the garlic butter just basically make the chips a bit soggy? Yeah, and it would all sort of be at the bottom,

and so when you get the last few, like, chips left, you're just sort of dipping it in the garlic butter, and what's left of it is so good. Oh, my God. Okay, so here you go. Somebody said the works in Lincoln is basically what you've described, but also has chicken salt on it. Oh!

Garlic butter, chicken salt, and lemon pepper seasoning is an option. It is escalating. Lauren hits the nail on the head there. Oh, wait a minute. Southland, doubling down, they'll say, you've just got that exact same thing

with bacon bits on top. Oh, no. With garlic butter and bacon bits. No wonder they built those streets so wide down in Southland. No one was expecting everyone to be hugely obese. Thanks, you call Lauren.

Shana, what's your local takeaway go-to? It's all sauces chips, which is tomato sauce, tartare sauce and garlic butter. Okay, garlic butter's making a strong appearance

there for that. See, the tartare sauce added to that is an odd one for me. It's tangy. I couldn't, no. It's got a tang. Looked the tartare sauce added to that is an odd one for me. A tangy. I couldn't, no. It's got a tang. Looked up tartare sauce. It's

mayonnaise with chopped onions, gherkins and capers. So that's on big fat onions and gherkins. Adam, your local takeaway go-to? Yeah, good old Wonga Matara again. Down the bottom of town there's a little, I think it's called the bluefish.

And it's like blood and guts, but they've done their own twist. Instead of the mayo, they put sour cream on it. Sour cream, okay. So cheese, tomato sauce. And it does all of you. The whole family. Three kids. Three kids.

Two adults. And you're there like, I'm not letting this go to waste. And you're forcing them in your face. This is like a kiwi poutine, right? It is. It is a kiwi poutine. It is a kiwi poutine. Thanks, Adam.

Somebody said they grew up in Waihi in the 1990s. Now, in the late 1990s, the dairy up the road got a new owner from the United Kingdom. They could have just put UK. And they put Cheesy Wheezy's on the menu, and everyone in Waihi was like, what's Cheesy Wheezy's? What's going on? He made them with cheese and tartar sauce, which is the OG. But a lot of people were like, I don't like the tang. Because we're New Zealanders.

Take away the tang and put more calories in. Calories over taste. So he changed it to mayo. And they believe that is the origins of the name and ingredients of the cheesy wheezy. Okay. Should have trademarked it. Hey.

Mm. Somebody else said, I was absolutely stunned to find out when working through the North Island that you guys don't have fish and chip shop jam donuts. This is a Nelson South Island thing. Yeah, I was going to say, I remember jam donuts.

But what is that? They're deep fried donuts in the same oil that they're deep frying the chips in. But they're already deep fried in. They're already deep fried, the donuts. Or are they...

They might be those bread donuts. Oh, yeah. And then they deep fry them. Right. Yeah, and they've got jam and you can get chocolate ones too. You get it... Do you not have that?

Chocolate or jam donuts from the fish and chip shop? No. Oh, mate. I've never heard of that before. That was my childhood. It's the business. Now I feel like my childhood's been robbed. That's dessert. Then you don't need to go anywhere else. It's dessert.

It's mains and dessert at the one shop. I've already done all your chips. If anyone's going to a motopata, somebody else said the best takeaway option is the deep fried chicken back, which is the spine of the chicken deep fried. No thanks. You just chew on it. No thanks.

I'll try it once. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Hello, good morning, homosexual community. Good morning. Super important part of the show. Good morning, everybody. Just a word of warning. Okay.

For people listening who use the dating app Grindr. Grindr. Grindr. Grindr. Tinder. Does Tinder have the E? Tinder has an E. Has the E, yeah.

Drop the E. Everybody else, Tumblr. A lot of apps. Nobody's using the last E before the R. Grindr, I did not know this, is owned by a Chinese gaming company. Kunlun. Kunlun is the name, which I believe is the mythical home of the Iron Fist from Marvel Comics. Maybe they got the name from Kunlun.

They were looking to float Grinder on the public market so people could buy shares in Grindr. Okay. And it would do pretty well. I'm no expert on the share market, but it's quite popular. Right, okay. Quite popular. Now, I don't understand the whole business dynamics at the moment between the US and China,

but apparently if it was Chinese-owned and it was going to open to US investment, even though it's based in the US, it would need to be scrutinised because they don't want, the government doesn't want China having personal information on its citizens. Right. But that might

be too late. So it's owned by a Chinese company and they said given that the government of China Can kind of just demand anything Off any company based in China It's real black mirror in China at the moment Like they've got their social rating system

Yeah Where if you dip below Like a certain rating You're not allowed to book flights Or travel on the trains And that's happened to thousands And thousands of people so far Millions of people

Right What would make you dip in ratings if you're just rude to someone? Jaywalk, litter, smoking in and on smoking area, and it just scans your face, deducts your points. It's like Black Mirror-esque. It's scary. It's pretty crazy. Yeah.

So the personal data on Grindr could be like where you live, who you've slept with. Well, how will they know that? Like your height, because you put it all into the, how will they know that? Like your height. Because you put it all into the dating app, don't you? You're matched, aren't you? Yeah, but they don't know that you actually sleep with them. Come on, China's going to know how many bottoms there are.

Oh, and tops. They'll know the ratios. Yeah, pants or shirts, Fletch? Bottoms and tops. Yeah. That's lingo, Megan. You want to take off your pants if you're going to be aletch? Bottoms and tops. Yeah. That's lingo, Megan. You want to take off your pants if you're going to be a bottom, though, I'd say. Okay.

You can probably leave your shirt on. That's completely up to you. Probably. That's completely up to you. But also just worried about extorting people who are on there. Are you right? Who are maybe not out or have a family but are engaging in activities on Grindr. You don't, because you don't think about when you use apps, like who owns the app, do you?

No, or what they're doing with your personal information. It's probably written somewhere when you first download the app. It's like if you read the terms and conditions and you're like, yes, let's just get on with this. Well, it's like, what was that stat the other day? Only 2% of people trust Facebook with their data. Yeah. But we use it anyway.

We use it anyway. Because with their data. Yeah. But we use it anyway because it's convenient. Yeah. And I mean, if you're using this app, you're probably not thinking too much about your privacy, are you?

Yeah, because if you didn't use Grindr, what are you supposed to do? Just like, go face to face and meet people again? Oh no, no.

I don't think that's... It's still not needed. Certainly not. Absolutely not. No, certainly not needed. Welcome one, welcome all

to the Fletch, Vaughan and Megan podcast, brought to you by Spark. Get four gigs of bonus data on Spark's $49 prepaid value pack. Now, on with the podcast. Now, Megan, how many days have you been a business owner and cafe director? Ten days. Ten days.

Do you have a part that says manager? No. You should definitely get that. I'd be into all of those big power moves. Yeah, have a part that says manager? No. You should definitely get that. I'd be into all of those big power moves if I ran a business. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd have business cards.

I'd have manager special. And that was just whatever I decided to have on special day. Yeah. Just so you could say your name. I would be like,

nothing. I'm in a bad mood. Well, no, technically I'm not manager. I'm director. Because I don't actually, I don't manage it. You direct. Yeah. You direct it. Because I don't actually, I don't manage it. You direct.

Yeah. You direct it. So you've had your first complaint. Now, this is what they, what do they say about businesses? It's not they're receiving the complaint. It's how you deal with it. And the customer is always right. Is always right.

So I don't want to rag on this person because they still paid, you know, like they're still contributing to my business. And we are like open to everyone's constructive criticism. Lots of people, vegans are like, you need more options. I'm like, we definitely do. Someone said do oat milk.

That's a good option because not everyone likes almond milk or soy. But how do you milk an oat? Very carefully. Where are the nipples on oat bran? Are they microscopic Very small So these are all Very constructive

Like I'm willing to accept Any of these But we did have I bet you should just be like It's oat milk Just use one of the other milks They won't be able

To tell the difference Use almond milk No but almond They have a definite flavour No You can't tell I wouldn't be able to tell That's why you don't.

They want to be told they're drinking alcohol. All these people, they want to be told what they're doing is the right thing to do. I'd tell them it's vegan bacon and give them ordinary bacon. No. And this is why I don't run a cafe. Yeah, this is why you'd be out of business in a week. So we did receive some constructive criticism. You can call it a complaint.

It's your first complaint. I think you should be proud of this. Well, yeah, okay. So a guy had, we do a bacon buddy, and it has like a double smoked bacon steak in it. So it's thick. God, I love that. Thick bacon. This is what I'm excited about. It's called that on the menu. Bacon Buddy. And it has like a double smoked bacon steak in it. So it's thick. God, I love that. Thick bacon.

That's what I'm excited about. It's called that on the menu. Bacon steak. Steak. You would make this the traditional bacon way. You would take it from the pork belly. I don't know. Right?

And you smoke the pork belly and you make, but then instead of cutting it real thin for streaky bacon, you would cut it thicker. Yeah. So it would be more of a bacon steak. Yeah. God, yeah. I've had those at places for breakfast and I reckon it's a nice touch. It's different. Patty, when it's a bacon

steak, do you still get it crispy? Yeah, yeah, you've still got to get a crisp on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now we're talking. So what was old mate's problem with this? And we haven't received this feedback from anyone else, but I was like,

what do you think of it? What did you ask? You said, what do you think of the bacon steak? Oh, you've got to. You ask everybody, right? Especially like, we've only been open a little bit,

so we need to check. And his complaint was that the bacon steak tasted like ham. Is he aware of where ham comes from? Yeah, it's salty and porky, right? Yeah. Yeah.

But no, I took that on board. Yeah, right Lisa, some magical creature. Yeah, so next time he said he would prefer to have normal bacon. Like a normal streaky bacon. Okay. Yeah. But. Yeah. But it's, yeah.

No, it's all constructive. I mean, could you do that as an option? Could you have that there if somebody... Yeah. What I always raise my mind with food places, how do they know how much of what to order? You just guess. That's the...

That terrifies me. Yeah. Because then you run out and then people try and order it and you're like, no, we're out of that. I'd be worried about ordering too much at the end of the day. I'd be like, well, Bacon, there's only one way for you to eat today. And that's in me tummy. You make a sandwich or something and it hasn't sold,

you're like, well, that's my dinner tonight. That's good though. Yeah. Solves the argument of what are we having for dinner. Yeah. Especially if you've been dealing with food all day. I imagine that argument just amplifies. Yeah, it was a roast veggie wrap for dinner last night.

Right. See, I couldn't do it. I would have just... See, so then the vegans are like, we need more. Yeah, put more stuff in it, it doesn't sell. That's not vegan though, because it's a wrap. What's in a wrap?

What's a wrap? What's a wrap done in? Chicken. What's a wrap done in? Egg or, I don't know. Is that vegan? I don't know. It's because of the chicken.

Yeah. Okay. It's a minefield. I bet there's a working in any. Okay. It's a minefield. I mean, there's a working in any food industry would be an absolute minefield. Politely tell him that ham also is from a pig. No.

God, no. Cross, I couldn't do that, Megan. I can't deal with stupid people. That is... No, I did say there's other options as well on the menu. Maybe try something different next time. We should open one of those cafes. You know, you see online every now and then

it's a restaurant and people go there to be abused. Yeah. That's the kind of stupid dumb idiot. You would be so good at that. Yeah, it'd be great. And you'd come home so calm because you've just been fainting all day. She's right, I believe, the podcast, ZM.

She's right, I believe, right here, right now. Good morning. Good morning. So much has happened since we last spoke to you. An inconceivable amount has happened to this lovely little country of ours. First of all, I think, and I know you hate this sort of stuff, having known you for a while, I know you'd hate it, but I want to say on behalf of our audience and us here, thank you so much for the wonderful job you've done representing New Zealand on a global stage. I mean, I know that you're not at all about this and this is

not why you got into the job, but it's undeniable that you've really stepped up. And it's crazy to think that you're still not even 40 and dealing with these massive events on a world stage with such grace and dignity. So thank you so much for that, first of all. Thank you. And where to from now? What's the... Yeah, and that's a good question.

We have our remembrance service this morning. And I imagine actually for everyone, wherever you are in the country, there'll be a place where you'll be able to watch that broadcast live. So just jump online and look at your nearest council details and it'll tell you from 10am what you might be able to watch if you'd like to join in. If you're in Christchurch, I know a lot of people

will come to Hagley Park to be a part of it. But the where to from here you know it's a big question. We of course have to make sure that we keep dealing with the big stuff, our gun legislation so we'll be introducing that soon but there's a bit more work to do there. I still think there's some work to do on social media

A lot of young people I've spoken to have seen the live stream video it's now being determined to be a projection of material but I've spoken to have seen the live stream video. It's now being determined to be objectionable material, but I know it's still out there. And I know it's having an impact on people as well because a lot of calls going into 1737, which if anyone needs to talk to someone, that's where to go.

A lot of calls still going in there from people who have been really affected by seeing the video. And then, of course, there's just the work we do to make sure that this never happens again. And it just makes sure that we call out racism and hatred, which I know most New Zealanders certainly do, but that's our ongoing job. Are you still in contact with the families? Because every day that goes by, I still think, how on earth are they getting through? How are they feeling?

Yeah, I am. I get messages from them. I visited, every time I come to Christchurch, I try and visit with some. I think I got asked once in a press conference, I think from an international journalist, how I was doing. And my immediate response was just to reflect the people that, if the people that I'm meeting, you know, time and time again, have the kind of strength that I'm seeing from them, then me, it's the least of anyone's problems how I'm doing. But they're incredible, particularly, for instance, the imam. So the person who was standing at the front of Denzad Mosque when

the attacker came in the fact that he has just stayed so constant and focused on looking after the people who were affected and yet he saw such a horrific act people have been incredible, really amazing And is it a hard

time, you're off to China later today for like a quick whirlwind sort of visit, is it a hard time? You're off to China later today for like a quick whirlwind sort of visit. Is it a hard time to be leaving New Zealand? I go on Sunday. Yeah, you're right. So I'm down, I'm on the ground there basically for a day to meet with the president and the premier. It was meant to be a longer visit, three cities, but we just trimmed it right back. So I'm just in Beijing just for the day. And it'll still be a really important meeting for cities, but we just trimmed it right back. So I'm just in Beijing just for the day and it'll still be a really important meeting for us but I just didn't feel worried about being away for so long

right now and particularly we're working on getting that gun law through so I wanted to make sure I was around for some of that. Well after the flight there, Ian, the time you've been having, you'll probably be pretty tired so don't do a Winston. That was contemplation. I'm on board with Winston because if I'm in a meeting sometimes

and if someone's going on, I'll just have a bit of quiet contemplation as well. Yeah. Keep in mind as well, he'd travel to Indonesia, straight across to Turkey. Oh, 100%. I fall asleep in customs when I'm waiting at an airport. It's tiring stuff.

I know that you think this is trivial, and it is kind of, but for us it's also an awesome promotion and moment for New Zealanders to see your image on the Burj Khalifa. Oh, I thought that was Photoshop when I first saw it. I thought, oh, someone's put some weird effort into that. Yes, that surprised me. Well, it really took the wind out of my sails because I was going to put your face on the side of the Morrinsville

dairy factory and then I'm like, well, I mean, it's the tallest building in Morrinsville but it's in comparison to the Rouge. That would still be a reasonably big deal for me. It would probably be harder to do. Yeah, well, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

But, yeah, no, I was surprised by that. But I don't know about you, but it makes me realise, I mean, it seems to me the reaction of New Zealanders, and all I've done has reflected exactly what New Zealanders have been doing and saying and feeling. It's all I've done. And yet the fact that New Zealanders have been doing and saying and feeling. It's all I've done. And yet the fact that New Zealand's reaction, and it is New Zealand's because when I speak to world leaders,

they see the image of Kiwis outside mosques and singing and they see the haka and that's what's really stood out to them. But I'm sure that there's more than just me sitting back and saying, but that's exactly the right reaction. Why is it a surprise to the world that that's the way we have reacted? It seems so natural to us. That stood out to me quite a bit. It seemed sad to me that that wouldn't be seen as just a natural reaction.

I think it's because you've set a precedent that we don't often see from other world leaders whose countries suffer these sorts of things maybe more often. I still think it's just the Kiwi way. Yeah. I do. Hey, thanks for having a chat to us. Appreciate how busy you are and keep on keeping on with the good work.

Nice to talk to you guys and look after yourselves. You too. All right. Okay, bye. Friday Flashback. Flashback. Flashback. And a Flashback Friday that was number one.

I've just counted 19 countries. And if it didn't make it to number one, it was either two, three or four or five. That's a banger. Like that means banger, right? Yeah. That's a certified banger. I don't think you're going to believe this song is 10 years old, to be honest. Okay.

It was nominated for some MTV awards. Didn't win. Was it nominated for a Grammy? Oh, I did see it was nominated for something. I've lost it. It's too late. That glitch is buffering music. It's just loading.

It's just spinning wheel. We broke them. You're going to need to reset me and see if I work out. Nah. It was nominated for MTV Awards. Yes, it was nominated, but it didn't win, did it? Yeah. That's what I thought I read before.

Nah. Well, you're not going to believe it's 10 years old, but it is. And it was a number one song here in New Zealand and all over the world. Oh, my God. It's Kasia. On to them. Let's go. Bones, bones Dropped up and playing our favorite CDs Pulling up to the parties Trying to get a little bit tipsy

Don't stop, make it pop DJ blow my speakers up Tonight I'ma fight Till we see the sunlight Tick tock on the clock But the party don't stop No, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Don't stop, make it pop DJ blow my speakers up It's Kesha, TikTok. It's 10 years old.

It's today's Friday flashback on ZM. Banger. Good feedback. I mean, it was number one or top five around the world. Huge song. She brushed her teeth with a bottle of Jack. What a crazy start to the day. Yeah.

She woke up feeling like P. Diddy. Didn't he come out and say, hey, that's not how I wake up. Because the guy goes, hey, girl, something at the start. He says, sound like P. Diddy. and P. Diddy was like, hey. I don't sound like that. Hey. Yeah. No.

Yeah, no, pretty good. Pretty good feedback on that one. Good. Certified banger. Certified banger. Okay. Well, Friday jams start now. Intern Anya, we go now to the news desk.

You want to talk about your friend who will remain anonymous. Rename-less. Rename-less, is it? Because you just said rename. Rename anonymous. I was trying to say remain and anonymous at the same time. Anonymous.

Right. Yeah. So there's a flirting dilemma. There sure is. At her place of work. Yeah. So she started working at this place maybe six months ago.

Okay. And a very, very cute person also works there. Okay. So they work together, I think, maybe four out of five days a week. So a lot of potential flirting time. Okay. And she's pretty into him. I feel like she's made that quite keen

and she was telling me about this last night. It's just getting more and more obvious and I think he's picking up on it less and less by the sounds of things. Wait, I've got a question. Is he a homosexual? I don't believe so. Because if she's trying to flirt with him

and he's not into girls, then it's a waste of time. But he should just put her out of her misery then. Like, hey, just by the way. But it would be a good ego boost misery then. Like, hey, just by the way, I don't like catchy cues. But it would be a good ego boost, so I... 100. Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah, but you probably would tell them.

It's nice to know you still got it. Yeah. I mean, maybe, but she was telling me that he literally said a girl could bump right into me, and I wouldn't even know if she was into me. And then she said, bumpity bump bump, like, and he didn't pick up on it. And it just, yeah. just it just went right into me

bumpity bump bump yeah this is happening mate like here we go and it went right over his head and another time she was like okay well um dinner like do you wanna maybe she got some dinner and drinks and he was literally like oh, no, I've got dinner every night. Well, like, is he a meal prepper? I don't know. Like, she just came out with it and it just totally backfired. I think she was so thrown off that she was just like, oh, me too. And he's definitely not gay because...

Well, he said a girl could bump into me and I wouldn't know. Right, okay. So maybe he's bi and I don't know. He wasn't feeling it that day? No, no, no. Bias are very greedy. They wouldn't feeling it that day. No, no, no. Bi's are very greedy. They wouldn't pass up an opportunity.

Don't bi shame. I'm not bi shaming. I'm bi-gradulating. Bi-gradulating. But guys are pretty clueless when it comes to hints, though. Are they, though? Because I feel like that's all guys think about. So they're ready for the flirting.

I'm wondering at the flirting. When she's flirting with him, is he eating? Because I'd say food would be the only thing that would take priority over. Well, they're ready for the flirting. When she's flirting with him, is he eating? Because I'd say food would be the only thing that would take priority over. Well, they do work in a cafe. So, I mean, it's very possible. He could be distracted by the donuts.

By food, yeah. Okay. Well, on the back of this, we wanted to ask you if you've ever tried flirting with someone. Yeah. And you've given them a really obvious flirt

and it's just gone way over their head and they haven't picked up on it. Or they've chosen to deliberately ignore you. But I don't think I'd be quick enough to. See, in my experience, it was just the flirting was turned down because they weren't into it. Right. Not that they didn't get it. And they're like, no.

Yeah. Pretty much. Stop. Yeah, I'll just stop you right there. Not keen. But then at least you know. Yeah, see, that's the thing. If he's not keen, he just needs to put her out of her misery.

Just say it. Just say it. All right. So 0800Diles.com. You can text as well, 9696. Whenever you try to flirt with someone and it's just gone way over their head. We're talking about when you've flirted with somebody and they've just not picked up on it whatsoever. Yeah.

Completely missed the point. Some text messages in. Somebody said, I have a friend and she was telling me that she had this new best mate. And I was like, that's awesome. And it was a guy. Yeah. And they were best mates for like four or five months. She was like, he's such a good guy.

Yeah. And she said, you know, he's into you. And she's like, no, he's not at all. We're just like really good friends. And then he asked her out and she laughed in his face thinking it was a joke. She was like, of course not. Like, duh, you're my best friend.

She's just oblivious to it. He got friends on. Without, yeah, even knowing. Apparently he was all good with that, but eventually he was. Sure. Sienna, when did you try to flirt with someone? My now boyfriend and I started spending a lot more time together about a year ago now.

Yeah. We were really good. We were all really good friends. We started spending more and more time together. And then I thought he was getting a little bit more flirty. But my best friend said to me, oh, no, he's like that with everyone. He's just naturally flirty. So I spent the next month just thinking that he was naturally flirty.

He wasn't actually flirting with me. Oh, so you were missing all the signs that he was putting out there, the flirt. Yeah, because my friend told me he was just like that always. It sounded like a friend was trying to, like, block you there. She had a boyfriend, so that was what was it doing. Oh, yeah, right, okay. But it just went over your head. Yeah, completely.

So how did you eventually get together? We went camping with all of our friends, but we ended up later than everyone else and ended up sleeping in the backseat of my car together. And I don't know why that went over my head as, you know, that's not flirty at all, you know. Yeah, right. Kind of hacks.

They all knees and elbows. Thanks, you cool Sienna. Tanya, when did you try flirting with someone that went over the head? I flirted with my current boyfriend for like a year before he got any clothes. Right. What kind of stuff were you saying to him or doing? Yeah, flirt with us. Okay, well, we were in a bonfire at his house and we were sitting in the back of his car and I leaned right up on him and put my legs over him.

We were talking just to us and I spent the day at his house beforehand and we painted his room and we were lying on his bed and I literally put my in his house beforehand and we painted his room and we were lying on his bed and I literally put my head on his shoulder and he was just clueless. I'm sorry. Even now he's like, were you flirting with me then? Oh my goodness. This is beyond flirting.

You were grabbing. You were touching. Yeah. Wow. I love it. He's like, this girl loves doing handy jobs like painting my room.

And then when we lie down, she likes to just have like a soft cuddle. That was pretty cool. She must be so exhausted. I'm like her pillow. Yeah. Her legs obviously.

Yeah. It is literally all that went through his brain. She obviously has a problem where if her legs are down for too long, they get sore, so that's why she's put them on top of mine. Yeah. And so he finally picked up on it, and you're still going out now? Yeah, yeah.

So we've been together for almost a year, and we're looking at getting engaged. Oh. You better take control of that because I don't know how he's going to know. Yeah. Give him the ring. He's like, what's going on here? Thanks, you're cool, Tanya.

Taylor, who were you flirting with? Taylor. Hi. Hi. I met a guy at a friend's party and I thought he was cute. And so I was flirting, but I was sober. And so I was trying my best. But obviously got to a point where I was like, I look real stupid. So gave up on that.

He was missing the point, obviously, and later found him on Tinder. And we had a laugh about the fact that I was flirting and he thought he was flirting with me too. So we're just both missing the point and we're getting married in a year. Oh my God. How are you both misfiring? You're flirting so badly that you're both doing it, but you're not getting it. Yeah, yeah.

So obviously on the same path. Yeah. Are things still awkward when you chat now at home? No, it's a good story and it means that we can say we met at a party rather than online. Yeah, true, technically true.

I honestly think for the health of your relationship going forward, if you want the dishes done, don't be like, oh,

dishes are stacking up. Just say, hey, dishes need doing, let's do the dishes. Things need to be spelled out here. Yeah,

it's super straightforward. Really straight with each other. Taylor, thanks for your call. Some other text messages in. Somebody said, my partner was chasing me for at least a year. It all hit me at once. I was like, is she?

No, surely not. What is wrong with people? And then they sat down and they thought back of all the times and they're like, I think she might be flirting with me. That time she called me sexy. What was that like? Then they literally said, have you been flirting with me for a year? And they were like, yes.

And now we're engaged. So men can totally miss the obvious. How many people do you think have walked away from people? Because people haven't picked up on it. Because they're like, well, I'm not wasting my time on this. Somebody else said, I literally said to a guy, would you like to sleep at my house this weekend? He said, but I can sleep at mine.

And I said, yeah, I guess that's the point. And he looked really confused and he was like, I'll just sleep at mine. And then looked really confused and backed away. And they were like, I must be really bad at this. That's not on you. That's on him. Fact of the day, day, Day, Day, Day.

Today's Fact of the Day is about Dora the Explorer. Dora the Explorer and the Lost City of Gold. There's a movie coming out. The Dora is old, though. Like, the Dora is old. Yeah, she's teenage Dora. I don't like that. Yeah, what? I wanted to see, like, an infant on a quest for treasure.

Like a four-year-old, no parental supervision. Yes, yeah. On a walk with a talking map that comes out of a talking backpack with a mother monkey. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Yeah. The Boots is in it, but I don't think he speaks. Right, okay. Boots is in the movie.

Have you seen Swiper? So has Timiwara Morrison. I saw that. No sign of Swiper or Swiper's in the movie or not. Not yet. He's, you know, the best anti-hero there is.

Yeah. He's everybody. Everybody finds themselves cheering for Swiper. Swiper swipes. Swiper no swiping. Swiper no swiping. Swiper no swiping.

And then he goes, oh, man. Because he's not allowed to swipe. Is he on Tinder? No, he's like, oh, right. Is he a fox or a ferret or something? He's a fox. Great character. He got that because he swiped something for witch.

And she cursed him that if somebody said swipe no swiping three times, he wasn't allowed to swipe. He physically could not swipe from them. So that's why he's always like oh. Well I won't be seeing the movie. So I don't know if he's in the movie. Timberlake Morrison is though. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah he plays a

Latino bad guy. Okay. Which is like Cliff Curtis will be annoyed he missed that on the role because Cliff Curtis of course can play any race in the world but so can Timberlake Morrison has previously and will continue to do. But today's fact about Dora the Explorer is she's called Dora the Explorer because the Spanish word for explorer is exploradora. Is that?

What? Exploradora is the Spanish word for it. You got my line up? Vornox is on. Yeah. Exploradora. Exploradora. Expl. Yeah. Exploradora. Exploradora. Exploradora.

Exploradora. Exploradora. It's a very sexy language. It's a very sexy language. So that's why she's called Dora the Explorer. So in Spanish it would be Dora the Explorer. Dora el Exploradora? Yeah.

Is that what? Yeah, what do they call it overseas? When Dora plays in like, I don't know, South America? Probably just call her Susan the Wanderer. It's not as good a ringtone, is it? And does she teach Spanish words to Spanish people or does she teach them English words? I don't know.

Like when she's like, ciclo, for circle, she'd be like, circle. What is this? What is this? What is this? Circle. Circle. I don't know, actually. That's a really good point. Maybe it's not in non-English speaking countries.

No, it is. It's a worldwide phenomenon. Oh, okay. Or maybe she just doubles down. You know how Sesame Street teaches us English? Yeah. But you kind of already know it. Yeah. Maybe it's like that. Sesame Street teaches us English. Yeah. But you kind of already know it. Yeah.

Maybe it's like that. Sesame Street. Nah, because they Russian dub over the old Sesame Street. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, we need to look into this. Well, maybe someone listening can text if they've lived in another country. Circle. Circle.

Yeah. What's this shape in another language? Yeah, circle. Circle. So, yes, everything sounds very Spanish. Oh, it does. It's one of those languages you wish you could speak. Rattle off a bit of Spanish. That'd circle. Circulo. See, everything sounds very Spanish. Oh, it does. It's one of those languages you wish you could speak. Rattle off a bit of Spanish.

That'd be a good flirt. Yeah. Yeah. Wouldn't fall on deaf ears, would it? No. So today's fact of the day is that Dora the Explorer

is called thus because the Spanish word for explorer is exploradora. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Day. Special guests joining us in studio from Heartbreak Island, Rosie and Helen. Good morning.

Good morning. Shock elimination yesterday. You guys kind of don't really deserve to be eliminated, but your partner's cheated. Yeah. They cheat, but you go home. Yeah. Funny that. So, what have you said to them since?

Because I would lose my mind um yeah there was a lot of anger i'm sure you can see that yeah um we were both not happy chappies about the situation um i'm not friends with harrison i do talk to her sometimes though but that's about it Really? And what about you Helen? Harrison as much as Harrison does apologised and that kind of thing and like watching it back

I can see that he is like really like sorry for everything so I mean we don't talk like the regular but you know we'll tag each other in stories or something every now and again that kind of thing

Facebook friendship Yeah but, you know, we'll tag each other in stories or something every now and again and that kind of thing. Facebook friendship. Yeah. So, I mean, apart from how it ended for you guys, which just seems unfair, how was your experience? Would you do it again? Absolutely. A hundred percent, yeah.

I'd do it again in a heartbeat. Yeah. It was amazing. Yeah, it was a really good time. So much fun. Definitely, yeah. Because a really good time so much fun definitely yeah because a lot of people that go on their shows they feel like

they're not they were represented you know poorly they cut things wrong like do you feel that you came across as you were I feel like

I mean you go into something like that and you already know how it all works you're well prepared for how the cutting and everything is going to be done. So I think if you don't think that that's going to happen,

you're being a bit naive. So, I mean, I went into expecting kind of exactly what they did and everything like that. So I think it's, yeah, I'm fine with it. I mean, they, I think, what's the word? I don't know. Emphasise your characteristics, I guess. Yeah, yeah, sure.

But, yeah. I also think that, like, they can't use anything that you haven't said against you. So everything you say, everything you do, that is what you've done. You know, like, you have to own your stuff. Like, that's going to be what you say. Yeah, like, you've said that at some point.

Yeah. Like, there's people that are like, I can't believe they did that. It's like, you literally said that. Yeah, that came out of your mouth yeah yeah but I felt like you especially Rosie like you stood up for your morals um when you were defending was the question who's the ugliest or who do you find the ugliest yeah you really stood up for yeah what you believe I mean yeah my mouth always gets me in trouble I'm very outspoken um don't apologize for that that's great oh no apologies here like I'm happy with that part of me um but yeah it

definitely does get me in trouble and I'm glad that I stayed true to myself like because I definitely would do that on the outside world just as easily and have done before so now do you regret not um going with my cousin Trevon. Yes. Is he your cousin? Is he your cousin? No way. So I was very excited because when he was announced as a disruptor, you commented on his photo

and you're like, ah, the house is about to get hotter. And I was like, yes, did you? Yes. What? Trevon is such a sweetie as well.

Yeah. Mad rag rats. Should have gone there. Slide into the DMs, girl. Like, yeah, I full, full um, what is the approval here? Oh, well, Rosie and Helen, thank you so much for coming in. I'm really sorry that you got eliminated because

of the boys. That seems unfair. Well, you can watch Heartbreak Island TVNZ On Demand Tuesday to Thursday out 6am or it plays TVNZ 2 at 9.30 on those nights. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Great news for the houseplant addict in your life, especially if they also share a space with you

and your living space also has their plants in it. There's been a study into the benefits of houseplants for your mental health. Okay. And 2,000 people participated and said that, 42% of them said being around houseplants improved their mental health. I don't know if I could say the same because I get home and another one's dead

and that doesn't do great things for my... It upsets you. Yeah, my mental health. But then you get to take a trip to like the plant shop and then you're surrounded by them so there's like you binge and purge

on houseplants because Megan and I talked the other day the day that you were away sick Vaughan that millennials and plant sales in the last few years

have just gone through the roof around the world yeah yeah yeah a third of all plant sales are now from millennials yeah it's it's back to the heyday of mums having ferns in the lounge. Did you ever have one of those little bamboo?

Man, I just had the clearest memory of this little bamboo stand we had and it had a little fern and a pot in it. I think we had the exact same bamboo stand and it probably had a fern in it. Yeah. Did it like sit beside the TV? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. With a little fern in it. Yeah. Did it like sit beside the TV? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

With a little doily on it. Yeah. Mums loved a fern back in the day but I've actually got one of my, what is that one that I've got?

The Monstera. Yeah, that's actually, I've got a cutting from mum because she had one of those growing up and then like it went out of fash

so she just hid it away and now it's back in fash. It's in the lounge. She's put hers in the lounge. She's put hers in the lounge. What kind of pot she got her it away and now it's back in fash. It's in the lounge. She's put hers in the lounge. She's put hers in the lounge. What kind of pot she got it in? Oh, it's huge. It's massive.

It's like sprawling. Has she sprung for a good pot? I don't know. Or is it just in a big plastic tub? Yeah, they don't like to spend money. Nah, they don't. That's the thing that gets you that the plants,

it's all very well to have the plant but then you've got to put it in a pot. Yeah, and then it gets a bit big and you're like, it's time for a new pot, buddy. And you're like, oh no, daddy can't afford a new pot, buddy. You just stop growing so quickly. It's like kids with shoes.

You're like, I'm sure you can get a few more weeks out of them. And didn't you go plant shopping yesterday? Yeah, but that stat with the third of the millennials didn't ring true yesterday. Oh, really? There was lots of older women. But they were lovely. They gave me tips on orchids and everything. Okay.

Well, that's the thing. The other third are, I'm imagining, older ladies. And they're experts. I know. They love. God, they love a bit of plant chat, don't they? They love it. Love a bit of plant chat.

And I was here for it. Well, if you need any excuse to buy a heap of plants for the flat this weekend or the house. Yeah. Do it. It'll make you happier. You've got a monstera. What's your latest houseplant? I bought a fiddle leaf fig yesterday. Oh, welcome to the family. I've got a pit island palm.

I named him Brad because there's... Brad's got a pit island palm. Oh, I need to see what a pit island palm looks like. He's beautiful. What is his situation? Inside? I've got him inside. Oh, that's a lot like the neko.

It's a lot like a neko. Bit thicker branches. Right. Oh, okay. And does it grow a bit squatter, does it? It doesn't look quite as tall as the New Zealand. Yeah, depending on what pot you put it in, you can keep it small.

Do you need me to look after it? I absolutely do not. I can definitely kill that in two weeks, Vlad. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan The Podcast If you enjoyed this podcast why not give ZM's Bree and Clint a listen too Subscribe on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts Head music lives here ZM