ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - May 06 2019

Episode Date: May 5, 2019

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ZM. Head music. Lives here. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. Thank you, Anya. Good morning. Welcome to the show. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Good morning. One of us is a burns victim. After the weekend, aren't we? Little bit. Not like a full-blown fire. Serious. Chemical burns. More like, yeah, chemical. You've had a wild reaction to something you had on your face. Yeah.

It's itchy and painful. So you put this face mask on. Yeah, on my eyes. And how long do you leave it on? Is it those ones they see everyone wearing and they're like white with the little eye holes? No, it's just an eye mask. So it just goes under the eyes. Oh, so you just put it on.

But is that a little bit of paper? Yeah, a little bit of gel. Do your eyes gel? Yeah. Because those ones that people put on their face and they look like the guy of Silence of the Lambs. Hello, ladies. Are those paper? Yeah.

Right. But what's in those paper ones? Are they soaked in something? Yeah, so when you get it out, it's all wet. And then once it's dried, you can take it off. They call it hydrogel. It's just a little hydrogel patch under my eyes. But it's made you puffy.

I know, I felt nothing at the time. And then I took it off and I was like, oh, ow. Oh, no, that's not good. And I've gone red and puffed up. And it's itchy AF. And that was two days ago. It was yesterday morning. Oh, right. Was it's itchy AF. And that was two days ago. It was yesterday morning. Oh, right.

Was it worse when you woke up this morning than it was? It's more puffy. Should you have kinked up makeup over it? Well, I'm not not wearing makeup over it because it's even worse. It's a little bit red and purple. It's not weepy though, is it? No, not weepy. Could be worse.

You're getting rid of this gel, right? You're not going to use it again. That was the last one I had. I actually think I had the same reaction last time, but it wasn't as bad. So I was like, I wonder what that was. Has it passed its use by date? No. Yeah.

Just have bags under your eyes. I know, yeah. Now I've got bigger bags, so what's better? Yeah, this is true. All right, coming up on the show today, we've got a chance for you to see Taylor Swift live in LA with ZM's World Tour. Wango Tango happening the start of June, so three weeks away in LA, your chance for you and a friend to get there.

And it's super easy. We've got a quiz, just like we did last week. Artist or destination? Yep. You choose, either Taylor Swift or a question about LA. We'll give you the chance to do that. During the show today, sometime before 9 o'clock, the top six is coming up.

Yeah, Jacinda and Clark announced their engagement over the weekend. It turns out over Easter, they got engaged. So she was at the Pike River Mine. They were trying to re-enter. So she was there and a reporter noticed that she had an engagement ring on. But it wasn't on her engagement ring, was it? It wasn't, was it?

Because she's spoken before about how she gets like little eczema or rashes or something. Oh, right. So she's got to keep switching it. Got to keep switching her ring on. You should give her one of your face masks. I don't want to be rashy to you. She sounds as rashy as you. We've all got that rashy friend.

The Prime Minister is just Parliament's rashy friend. All right, you lot, listen up. It's story time. Story time. This is the segment of the show where I find three news headlines from interesting, unusual, quirky news stories around the world and Vaughan and Megan pick one only. The others are deleted forever.

Headline one, iguana in protective custody. Headline two, I'm horny, not a defence, say police. And headline three, from Tinder to ASOS. Those are your headlines today, New Zealand. I like from Tinder to ASOS. Because it's got a big suede on any of them, to be honest. From the window to the wall, isn't it? From Tinder to ASOS.

Yeah, from Tinder to ASOS. We like that one. Yeah. Was it Anya saying last week she got an email about their returns policies? Because we've talked about those. Yeah. They're banning people that are overly returning. Serial returners.

Yeah. Well, we go now to London. And Thea, she posted a tweet on the 28th of April. Our Thea? Not our Thea. Not the musician Thea. Just a woman called Thea from Lincoln in the UK. She posted a tweet on the 28th of April with messages that she had received from a man called George on Tinder. Now, her Tinder match, they matched on Tinder, and he then sent her a message saying,

that dress in the last photo is not doing you any favours. Hope that helps. Ouch. George. What? Was this unsolicited from him? Unsolicited. Oh, so this wasn't, she'd said, oh, no thanks.

Well, no, they were just having a conversation. I don't know if she, maybe she'd at that point said she wasn't into, you know, some fun then and there. Right. As probably most expect on Tinder. She then asked why he felt he needed to comment on her appearance. He replied, Literally had to tell you else I wouldn't have slept. You, it's awful.

You not reckon? Question mark. Charity shop job? I tell you what, grow up and shop somewhere decent. Those were the messages that she uploaded from him. Who is this guy? Isn't that crazy? Well, he's just a man called George.

I think that's all she knew. Of course she doesn't reckon. She put it on her Tinder profile. She thinks she looks great. Well, I'll show you a photo of her. This was her in the dress there. And you'd say, Oh, she looks great.

She looks great. This guy sounds like a douche. Is there a picture of him? There isn't. Well, not in this news article anyway. So, I mean, she probably did him a favour not uploading his photo because he'd be ruined by now, but fair enough. She looks great.

Well, anyway, that kind of went viral, and now she is on the ASOS website modelling that exact dress. Yeah. Oh, and look how good she looks. Looks amazing, right? What, so ASOS were like, oh, that's one of our dresses. Yeah.

That guy's a douche. Come and model it for us. Yeah. That's pretty good for them. And now, so ASOS have tweeted and uploaded a picture of her. It's had thousands of likes and retweets.

Yeah, that's good from them. And yeah, really good from them. And she looks amazing. Like, I mean, she looked amazing in her Tinder photo, but obviously she's gone in, had a professional photo shoot in the dress, and it looks like incredible.

Eat that sucker. Sucker fool. And no further word from him? No, no. I'm just, I read the article. I couldn't find any of his Tinder profile posted. She obviously turned him down. Because what guy's like, I literally couldn't have slept if I didn't find any of his Tinder profile posted. She obviously turned him down because what guy's like I literally couldn't have slept if I didn't tell you.

Basically. If I didn't give you this insult. So he's lashing out because she shut him down. Yeah. I couldn't have slept. Lying awake at night. I wish I'd said something. I just gotta she unmatched me before I could tell I'll never sleep

again. Fletch Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. We all like a little bit of sugar in food and in drink, but it turns out, according to the study, and the study's done in New Zealand, that it said sugar in drink is worse for you than sugar in food. So if you're drinking your sugars, and that's in the form of even like fruit juice,

fruit juice, energy drinks, sports drinks, anything like that, it has a greater risk of causing harmful metabolic changes due to the concentration, quantity, and speed at which it's metabolised. Because I guess it's liquid, so it's straight into you. Straight in there. And then that's why they're saying, well, it's

sad that New Zealand isn't adopting a sugar tax. Everywhere else that has, has seen a decrease in sugar consumption, and they're saying that's directly linked to our obesity epidemic. But then, like, I want cheap chocolate when I want chocolate.

But that's, oh, yeah. So just tax the sugary drinks? Was that full-on sugar tax? I thought it was just the sugary drinks. Was it just sugary drinks? I thought it was all junk food. All junk food. Well, I don't know.

But then chippies, more salt. Yeah, true, but less sugar. And equally as delicious. Yeah. But salt has some nutrition value, whereas sugar's just like, what's that doing? Not half a cup. Yeah, true. Half a cup of salt.

Well, you'd be thirsty after that. You'd need a panter. True. And then that's just the circle of life, isn't it? Vicious circle. Vicious. Yeah. Vicious circle.

So I guess it's, what I took from that is eat your sugar, don't drink it. But it's still bad if you eat it. Well, yeah. Or have a Diet Coke and then put two spoon loads of sugar in your mouth to equal it out. Yeah, I was like, this doesn't concern me because I drink diet and zero. Hello. So those chemicals are just going straight to you. Yeah. But no, why aren't we doing a sugar tax?

Is there a reason? They're debating it, aren't they? It's on there. But you go to the, is it because you go to the supermarket and everything that's like in a packet or whatever's got sugar in it, it's not until you read it and you're like, oh, hang on. I went and bought like these herb spice blend to put on like meat and stuff.

It's got sugar in it. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like a rub. Yeah. You know, stir fry mixes are the worst. Oh, they've got a lot of sugar in it. Because you're like, so much sugar in stir fry mixes. Because when you look at the grams of sugar, it's four grams is a teaspoon, eh? Five? Four or five. So, like, when you divide it by four or five,

some of them can have like five or six teaspoons of sugar. Wow. In a stir fry mix. And you feel like you're being good because you're eating veggies and meat. And then you've got five tablespoons of sugar in there too. Yeah. Well, you tried your best. What more can happen here?

ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. In Texas, this is what they believe is a world first. In a hospital. Okay, this one's they believe is a world first. In a hospital. Okay, this one's kind of hard to describe. It's like a rest home, but a hospital. Okay. If you're going to be in a hospital for a long, it's like a village. And by the way, this is private healthcare.

This isn't like a public hospital. Right. This is next level expensive. But if you are, for example, if you're an old person that lives there, there is now a vending machine for your prescriptions. Oh, okay. It looks like a self-serve checkout thing, which is kind of ironic that they're giving old people this technology

when they're the ones that struggle with technology. I was going to say, the line is going to be huge. It'll be there for a long time. But basically, you can get your prescription. You can go up and you scan the bar code, put in your social security number, your date of birth, enter it will be like you're this person

that matches the person on this prescription scan and it will dispense your medication. Oh because you know when you get a prescription and it's like I don't know weeks worth of pills or whatever. It takes them so long to count them it's like, I don't know, a week's worth of pills or whatever. It takes them so long to count them. It's like, you're counting 14 pills.

Like, how long does that take? And pharmacists must love this. They love this chat. They love this chat. And if there are those little sealed foil things, like a slab of pills, what are they? Like a tray of pills. Yeah.

You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah. Not just like loose in a bottle. Or when you get your paracetamols and you pop them out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that what you mean? What are those called? A tray. pills. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah. Not just like loose in a bottle. Or when you get your paracetamols and you pop them out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that what you mean? What are those called?

A tray. A tray. I think so. What are those called? Like a sheet. A sheet. A sheet. A sheet of pills.

They're like five by four, so you know there's 20 in one. There's easy counting. Yeah. Like if you need 40 of those, you're like, well, two. Do they like count them twice just to be safe?

They have to be very, very careful. But they have to, there are some where they have to pack them. They can take a little bit longer if they pack their own. Why don't they just get the pharmacy like behind the counter? Why don't they give them just like vending machines? So the pharmacist still has to go, I need 40 of these. Or like a money machine that counts coins.

Yeah. And then they hold out the bottle and then just give it to you. Count, count, count, count. Tip. Yeah. Because then they hold out the bottle and then just give it to you. Count, count, count, count. Tip. Yeah. And it goes on. Because then they don't have to like count it twice. But then the pills aren't money.

They're not as tough. So they might crumble. Yeah. You might get a bit of someone else's Viagra. They can do it on weight though. And your antibiotics. Yeah. Rather than it crumbling, having to push through a count, it could just be on weight.

I mean, we're solving the world's problems here. We're not even involved in the pharmaceutical industry. You think you might send this to your brother because he could be out of a job. Yeah, watch out. Because he always sends me things about like our industry. The demise of radio. Yeah, he's like, oh, yeah,

yeah, well, people have got podcasts now and Spotify and I'm like, alright, mate, so this is going to be good. It's going to be good to have one to send back. Yeah, be like, hey, watch out, so this is going to be good. This is going to be good to have one to send back. Kind of even it out. Yeah, be like, hey,

watch out, there's a machine coming for your job. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. I don't answer my phone really to anyone apart from my husband

and my parents because I don't want to talk to anyone else. Well, that last time I called you, you were really surprised I'd called you. Yeah,

but that, if you or Vaughan call me, I answer because I'm like, something's happened. Because you know not to call me. Or we've got big goss. Or yeah, there's something. Something's going down or something's happened. So I have to answer. Like something that's bigger than group chat goss.

Yeah. Like big, big goss. It has to be said on the phone. It can't be written down. So that's the only time that I answer my phone. So every time Andrew, my husband, rings, I always answer. But on Friday, I was busy. I was taking Leo to the groomers.

And they had some, I had to like, they had some F-plus troubles. So I was like, oh my gosh, I have a cafe now. I know about this. So I was like having banter. I'm not angry because I've been in your situation. Yeah. And so I was like, I'll sit here and do like a bank transfer and everything. So I wasn't answering my phone.

And then when I went back and got in the car and drove, you're not supposed to answer your phone. Plus it's on vibrate. So I missed it. Return to the house to 20 missed calls in the space of probably 20 minutes. And I was like, oh, uh-oh. Wow, okay. Someone's dead.

Something's going down. And someone's going to be furious at you because from like the third call on, it's a pure rage call. Yeah. And before I even had the chance to call him back, he was calling me again. Oh, dear.

I got the tone straight away. What have you been doing? And I was like, well, I've been busy. I've been doing legit stuff. Yeah. And he was at Kmart. He's trying to. What is so important that you need to call someone 20 times when you're at Kmart?

So, you know, when you return something, you have to have the card that you bought it on to... I did not know this. Yeah, so if you've got the receipt, they're like, have you got the card that you bought it on? And then they'll return the money onto that card. What if I've got a new credit card? I don't know. I don't know.

And I don't actually... It doesn't matter, does it? As long as you've got the receipt, I wouldn't have thought. Yeah. Well, by law, they have to give you... If they're giving you a refund, they have to give it to you. Yeah. It doesn't have to be on that card.

So this was the situation. And he said, well, my wife bought this. So he was, he'd negotiated with the lovely people that came out who were very patient to give me a call on FaceTime so I could show them the card through FaceTime. Right. So that the numbers match. So that was indeed our purchase. Oh, because are they worried that people are just picking up random receipts or something?

Maybe. Maybe that happens. And then going and picking up one of the things off the shelf and then being like, yeah. Okay, well, yeah, that probably makes sense. So he hung up, calls me back on FaceTime, and I'm going through my cards, find a card, and I was like, it was probably bought on this one.

We're showing it to them, and they're going through my cards, find a card and I was like, it was probably bought on this one. We're showing it to them and they're writing down the number, comparing it and this is taking a long time. And then they said, no that's not the card that we're after. And I don't know how long he'd been there but it was a while.

It was probably 45 minutes to an hour and he realised that he'd had the card the whole time. So he could have literally been in and out in five minutes. But he could not resist giving it to me, being like, if you'd answered your bloody phone like half an hour ago, we would have figured this out. Oh no, he's passed the range there.

Still my fault. He's passed in the back. I was like, mum, sweetheart. It's not your fault. You had the card the whole time. He's passing the buck. I was like, Mom, sweetheart. It's not your fault. You had the card the whole time. That's not on me. What was he getting a refund for? A chair.

Right. Was it the one that my dad broke? Yeah. Actually, I felt really bad because a few people have sat on these chairs and there's nothing more damaging to your ego than sitting on a chair and having a break. Yeah, because my dad's small. Yeah.

He doesn't weigh a lot. Yeah, your dad doesn't break a chair. He doesn't weigh a lot. So yeah, we've got different ones. These are at the cafe. They're not anymore. They're not already. No, because I just felt heartbroken

that it actually happened to three people that they'd sat on chairs. I mean, they look good and they're cheap, so what more do you want? I mean, they're probably not worth it. You want it to happen

after they've ordered too because if they're pre-ordered, they're definitely, so what more do you want? I mean, they're probably not worth it. You want it to happen after they've ordered too, because if they're pre-ordered, they're definitely scaling back what they were going to eat if they broke a chair. Yeah. I don't need this. They're definitely not going for cabinet food afterwards. Just a glass of water, please.

Have you gone for like a more sturdier chair now at the cafe? More sturdier chair, yeah. Okay. And no one's broken those yet? No. No damaging of the ego done with those yet. From the ZM Think Tank, this is the top six. Hello there.

Top six ideas for the wedding cake for Jacinda and Clark. They are engaged, which is great. One step closer to not living in sin. Number six. Just let it ferment there for a bit Number six On the top six ideas For a wedding cake

For Jacinda O'Clock Their engagement was Kind of exposed More than announced Yeah Do you think they were like Waiting to see how long It would take people to

Yeah That she was wearing Because she's been asked before When are you getting engaged Yeah But then you don't need to get You don't No Me too But she was wearing. Because she's been asked before, when are you getting engaged? Yeah. But then you don't need to get engaged. No. Me too.

But she was wearing a ring once on her wedding finger, eh? And someone was like, are you engaged? No, she just has to swap it around. Yeah. Because she gets excited. This is just coincidence, but my wedding ring is so hard to get on and off my finger now. Lube. Have you got lube at home? I always, when I get home, I put a little bit of dishwashing liquid on to get on and off my finger now. Lube. Have you got lube at home?

I always, when I get home, I put a little bit of dishwashing liquid on to get it off. Oh, is that your lube? Wait, are you trying to get it on or off right now? Before putting my ring, I'm trying to put it back on. Oh. Ruh-roh. I don't think my finger's any fatter. Can you get it resized?

Yeah, but I like my ring size is a size V. So it's easy to remember because I'm Vaughn. So my ring is a V. Yeah, but sure, that's neat to have a V. Maybe you're not a V anymore. Maybe you're not a size V. So it's easy to remember because I'm Vaughan. So my ring is a V. Yeah, but sure, that's neat to have a V. Maybe you're not a V anymore. Maybe you're not a V anymore. WX.

What? T-U-V-W. T-U-V-W. W. Oh, it sounds like wide. It's not when you go from a medium to a large. Large, yeah.

Ouch. There we go. It's on now, but it hurts. Hey, at least it's a B. Quite reflective of marriage sometimes. Hard to get in there, but yeah, now it hurts. Number six. On the ideas of the top six ideas I meant metaphorically.

For a wedding cake. You've got to experiment when it's been that long. You do. And sometimes that hurts. A cake in the shape of the C4 logo. Harping back to Clark's days on New Zealand music television. Oh, yeah, okay. A C4.

I guess you just buy, well, you know, you can get the old cake tins, can't you? Yeah, yeah. You get a C1 and a 4-1 and you push them together. You make a C4 logo. Nice. Give it a go. Number five on the list of the top six wedding cake ideas. So, Jacinda Clark, a cow because she's from Morrinsville.

Yep. An actual cow or one of those fiberglass ones? wedding cake ideas so just in a recline. A cow because she's from Morrinsville. Yep. An actual cow or one of those fiberglass ones? Well no, you'd want to be able to cut it and eat it so a cow.

Okay, right. A cow and then beside the cow there could be a chocolate river. Nice. You know, reflective of

the environmental impact of dairy according to some. Not all. Actually, do you know those cake shows that they have on TV? Yeah.

I saw them do a miniature horse cake. Massive. Standing up. The structural integrity that goes into one of these cakes. Yes. Immense. Yes. Immense.

Well, we know this. We've had cakes made for us. I know. Yeah. That required bracing. But more than skewers and wooden doweling. Oh, yeah. Like a full metal structure.

Like a metal thing, yeah. Number four on the list of the top six ideas for a wedding cake for Jacinta and Clark. It's a wedding cake, traditional, but it's cut in half and the other half's been taxed by the wedding planner. Am I right? Bloody taxes. Am I right? Feels like I'm only getting half the cake.

Number three on the list of the top six ideas for a wedding cake for Jacinda O'Clark. It's a series of cakes. A bus, a train, a ferry and a bicycle. Okay. The alternative transport cake, I call it. Less cars on the road. Yeah.

Fewer cars. One fewer car. Yeah. You say less. Correct me if I'm wrong, Stannis Baratheon, but you say less correct me if I'm wrong Stannis Baratheon but you say less if you couldn't

attribute a direct number to it so if you were going to say one less car you say one fewer car because you can say it's one

yeah right but if you were just saying less cars on the road that could be kind of any number I don't know Vaughn I'm not

I'm pretty sure you didn't say one fewer car in conversation you say one fewer car no but you You don't say one fewer car in conversation. You say one fewer car. No, but you should. You should say one fewer car. There's lots of things we should do.

We just don't. We should. We should do more. Just trying to think of a way to say ask in a sentence. You know, be like, we should ask more questions. An adult would say ask the other day. Oh, really? He's like, beg your parents.

Ask. And they said it again. And I was like, you? He's like, beg your parents. Us. And they said it again. I was like, you're going to double down on that one. You're happy to really. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, come on. You've seen it too. Number two on the list of the top six ideas for a wedding cake for Jacinda and Clark, a Mount Rushmore of communist leaders.

Lennon, Mousy Dong, Fidel Castro, Kim Jong-il. Because they're bloody communists. Am I right? This country's been, because they're bloody communists, am I right? This country's been run into the ground by communists. It's communism in disguise. Just joking. You're just basically echoing all the old mates. Yeah, I'm just, yeah, I'm just jumped into that News Talk ZB echo chamber.

Yeah. Of worst case scenario, possibly hype everything to the absolute maximum. And number one on the top six ideas for a wedding cake for Jacinda O'Clark just a big old stinky fish. Not even like a cake.

Just a big stank fish. With a candle jet. Oh no you don't have a candle on a wedding cake. No you'd put a scare through it. You could have a little him with a fishing rod and the little

cute little fishing rod has a line to the actual mouth. Oh, yeah. Good call. Yeah. And then she's just next to him on the boat. She's like this. With her hand on her head like, yeah, God, he's gone and done it again.

He's gone and got a fish. He's gone and got a fish. With his bare hands. That'll be dinner taken care of. That is today's top six. Fletchfawn and Megan, the podcast. ZM. Just clearing. The podcast. ZM. Just clearing my nose.

It's Olbis oil season again. I'm having a good... A sniff of the oil. Oh, I thought you were going to drink it. No, no, no. I'm not drinking it. It's just boiling away. It's so good.

It smells like Vicks a little bit, eh? It's kind of that eucalyptus-y. Yeah, it's good. It's good. It burns and you know it's working. I've got a pile of tissues too. I'm not ashamed. So Jacinda and Clark are engaged.

Apparently they got engaged over Easter. That's the word. Didn't announce it. Somebody at the Pike River re-entry noticed the ring on the finger. The question was asked. An official information act piece of paper was filled out and it turns out they are engaged. Not announced though.

And that's what we want to talk about now. When you've not announced something, you just waited to let people notice? And how long did you have to wait for them to notice? Like when Caitlin gets a haircut. She'll wait until about 6.30 and if we haven't said anything say something. And same with you. Actually, did you notice that I got my

hair done again? Yeah, because it was on your Instagram. I had a question when you first got it was on your Instagram. Oh, yeah, but you didn't say anything. I had a question when you first got it done. It's not now, but there was like fluffy bits. That's just, okay. I don't think you say that, Vaughn. No, I didn't at the time.

But they've gone down now. Can you not, when you first got it recoloured last week, you couldn't do something? Could you not straighten it or something? No, I could. You just didn't. I just had flyaways and things.

What are flyaways? It's just like little hairs. They get short. They're shorter than the rest. Yeah. Okay. No, I just wanted to

force somebody to do it because you never have them. I did oil them down but obviously they popped back up. They popped up, didn't they? Okay, next time just don't notice

and don't say anything. Well, I know I didn't say anything. No, but now you have. But I thought we might have been the start of a new fashion. Right. No. Okay, no. We notice.

I notice haircuts. Yeah, you do pretty well. Yeah, you're pretty good. Well, Fletch just notices and doesn't want to say anything. He's just like, oh, yeah. Doesn't affect. No, unless it's really bad, I might say something. But if it's good, it's good, it just looks like normal.

Don't worry about it. You know, people might get a new car, but they don't say anything because they want people to notice. You know, I'm not going to say anything. I'll wait until it's the same. And then it eats away at you on the inside because you've made this decision not to say anything. You've got to let people notice.

And you're just like, why aren't they noticing? Well, generally, it's buying something new or sort of a big life milestone. Or maybe a new outfit. Don't do that with your pregnancy, by the way. Don't just wait for people to notice because people probably won't say anything.

I've got a rule. I know several guys have a rule. You never ask if someone's pregnant. No. Never, ever. You could be like, out here on your way to give birth. You could be in an ambulance with waters broken.

We wouldn't assume. I wouldn't assume. No, that would be a dangerous game to assume that you're pregnant even at that stage. You're holding a newborn baby, we still won't ask. Yeah. So you want to take some calls and ask if you've ever done this. Yeah, yeah. What did you choose not to announce?

Yeah. And just let people notice. And how long did it take? Did it take way longer than you thought? Do you think it's a bit of a New Zealand way to be a bit understated? You don't want to go out there and be all like, guys, I'm engaged. No, because everyone does that, don't they? Yeah.

Straight away posting it. Yeah. Pre-social media, it was probably a bit more of a kind of waiting. Because you might be able to miss the announcement as well. Yeah, right. Okay, well, maybe you've got engaged and you've just put the ring on and you've waited for people to notice or maybe it's a new

outfit or a new something. You've just, when have you waited for people to notice? Yeah. Is it even more attention seeker-y? It is. It kind of, kind of. But then it's also kind of a fun game, isn't it? But then you'd be so sad if no one noticed. No one noticed. I know, you're sitting there.

Okay, so I've got something to tell you all. She didn't bloody notice. Nobody's noticed. I did actually notice, but I didn't care. 0800 DARS at M. You can call now and text 9696. How long did it take people to notice? ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.

So we want to know how long it took people to notice. MaybeM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. So we want to know how long it took people to notice. Maybe you changed something, maybe like the Prime Minister you just put an engagement ring on and waited for people to notice. Didn't say anything, just flashed your hand around a wee bit. Who was it that came to work and didn't mention their birthday until... Me. Yeah it was Megan and then at 7.30 she's like, guys, it's my birthday. Yeah, but you guys, you're the worst because you knew it was my birthday and you were purposefully not saying anything just to wind me up. That's worse. No, because that's a standoff at that stage.

And then you caved first. So we won. Even though it was your birthday, we won. And I didn't know I was participating with a bunch of D-bags who just didn't want to say happy birthday to me. I don't want much. I just want, hey, happy birthday, mate. We knew that we'd never get to nine o'clock.

Or ten anyway. We held up. We held. We won. So some text messages in. Somebody says, my wife plays this game every time she gets a haircut or does her face a different way. Does her face a different way.

What, like a Mr. Potato Head puts eyes on her mouth? Yeah. And her ears up her nose hole. I usually have until dinner time to say something nice or it's over for me. I'm talking cold, shoulder, silent treatment. I just, this is from Kane, who's messaged us. And Kane, if I was you, I'd just start, just on any given day, I'd be like, are, trying something different with your

the way you've put your face. Because you look lovely. Because that's how you speak. I don't want to put words in your mouth so I'm trying to put it into your language. But you're worried. Do you have something different with your hair? Because I've said that and Sade said, yeah, I've washed it. And I was like, oh, it looks great on you. You've washed your face? No, my hair.

Because that is weird. Sometimes, even hair, I've said to someone, oh, you had a haircut. And they're like, no, I just washed my hair. It's like, clean looks good on you. Somebody said, I'm finishing at my current workplace after four and a half years. However, I've not really told anybody. I just want to slip out. I don't know if the boss is going to tell anybody or anyone's going to notice or one

day I'm just not going to be there anymore. Oh, imagine that. One day they're like, where's Susan? It's been two months. I haven't seen her. Oh, she doesn't work there anymore. Oh, imagine that. One day they're like, where's Susan? It's been two months. I haven't seen her. Oh, she doesn't work here anymore. I'd hope they'd notice before two months. Yeah.

I didn't tell anyone at work when I was pregnant. Both pregnancies. Just my boss to let them know. And people were too scared to ask me. And when I got engaged, I just waited to send out the invites. That was the announcement. It was an announcement and an invite. Sounds like a really, not a tight-knit work group,

workplace. No, not really. Like if you were, I was going to ask anybody if they were pregnant, it would be people who work here. Yeah. But even then I'd wait till they said something. Somebody said, I bought a new boat. Didn't announce it to the wife. She refused to acknowledge it. Much like when we

wouldn't say it was your birthday. It's literally parked in the driveway. They both know it's there. What? I refused to announce it. Much like when we wouldn't say it was your birthday. It's literally parked in the driveway. They both know it's there. What? I refused to announce it. She refused to acknowledge it. It went on for a very long time of ignoring the fact

that I'd bought a new boat. Did he not even consult her? No, apparently not. Oh my God. And somebody said I moved into a new house. Bought a house. Bought my first house. Moved in. And somebody said, I moved into a new house. Bought a house, bought my first house, moved in. Yeah.

Didn't tell anybody. Yeah. Just figured that I'd eventually find out. And it went on for ages. And then I forgot I hadn't told anybody. And then we had an event and I put the address and people turned up and they're like, what's going on? And this was like six months down the track.

I forgot. They forgot they were playing the game of not announce. Which is a great way to play not announce. You're supposed to put the real estate sign on Facebook now. With sold.

Yeah, with the sticker on. How do we know you bought a house? Yeah. And then you make some reference to the fact that the bank owns you now.

Yeah, yeah, they do. That's a good one. You're the bank slave. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Slave to the bank. And a roof over our head or something. Sold. Sold. I'm just jealous because maybe one day. Slave to the bank. And a roof over our head or something. Sold.

Sold. I'm just jealous because maybe one day I'll get to do that. Maybe. Should just for fun. Just go stand next to her. Just go and stand in front of the house on your street when it sells and be like, great news. And everyone's like, oh, my God.

You'd be like, yeah, I know. The neighbours sold the house. So please do them. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Zac Efron is in a new Netflix show He plays the serial killer Ted Bundy It's called Extremely Wicked Shockingly Evil and Vile

Promise you'll never leave me in this Ted Did you do it? No This case is about catching a monster. Ladies and gentlemen, I am that innocent suspect. Zac Efron, right?

You're like, yeah, great. I mean, he's been in a string of great movies like Baywatch. Someone say robbed not to have an Academy Award under his belt already. And after the Ted Bundy tapes, everyone's like intrigued by this guy. So, I mean, Ted Bundy, for those who don't know, is a serial killer.

And he ended up- Shocking crimes. He was the first televised court case in America and became somewhat of a celebrity. Yeah. Yeah. The Ted Bundy confession tapes on Netflix are incredible. It's an amazing watch. I watched it like a few months ago. So now I'm regretting not having watched those.

Yeah, because the overwhelming response to this Netflix movie, which came out on Friday, is it's pretty shitty. It's rubbish. Because I was like, okay, well, everyone's intrigued by Ted Bundy. He was a charming guy, but he was like shocking crimes. And it's played by Zac Efron. I was like, this is going to be great. But the thing is, like, Zac Efron did an amazing job.

Yeah. He was great in it. Oh, the acting's good. I thought the acting in it was amazing. It was shot really well. It was just put together terribly. So I still don't know much about what happened with Ted Bundy. Because it follows the court case.

You could watch that and think, well, actually, did he do anything? That's what I thought. I was like, are we sure that he did it? Oh, really? Yeah. There's only one scene, because people were, before this aired, and I don't know if this is why, maybe it was cut down. People were like, oh, you can't glorify this.

We don't want to see anything gruesome. True. And there was one scene where he did, he murdered someone. See, I think as it stands now, it glorifies him more. Because you come away thinking, well, he's really charming and I don't know, like, are we definitely

sure that he did it? Well, and that's what happened back when he was in court. Yeah, right. He had girls going to the courthouse in love with this man. Yeah. Because he was, you know, he was a good looking guy. He was charismatic. He was outgoing. And that's what comes across in this movie.

So I guess in that respect, that was successful. But also, it was a bit boring. Because producer Caitlin, you're into your true crime podcast. And you'd know all about the Ted Bundy situation. See, I disagree because I was actually really nervous to watch it because I have been following all about it.

And I was like, oh, it's just going to... First of all, I was nervous to watch it because I thought it would turn me off Zac Efron because of him playing that character. If he did it well, then I'd just be like, get away, you're disgusting. That's an option that you're facing in your life. Yeah.

Getting personally in close with Zac Efron. One day you're like, I would have, but I still had Ted Bundy tapes in. He's my, like, dream man. Like, I love him more than anyone else. Is he your, like, number one celebrity? Yeah. Really? 100%.

It's a bit more high school musical. It's a bit gristly these days. Oh, no. What do you think? A bit gristly for me. No, no. What do you think? A bit grisly for me. No. So, did you watch this Netflix? Yeah, I watched a couple of things.

Zac Efron's only five foot six. Is he? That's all right. My boyfriend's short. He's not five foot six short. Wait, is Zac Efron shorter than my boyfriend? Zac Efron's, yeah. How tall is your boyfriend?

I don't know. A little bit shorter than me. Zac Efron's only a foot taller than me. No, an inch taller than me. That doesn't matter. You watched this movie over the weekend. I watched the movie and yes,

I was a little bit like, oh, was that it? Like, expecting to see more, but I was glad that there wasn't because, oh my god, from all of the things I've heard it's... But you needed the context. You needed the context. You didn't need to see more, but I was glad that there wasn't because, oh my God, from all of the things I've heard, it's he's... But you needed the context. You needed the context.

You didn't need to see the actual murders. But I mean, Rotten Tomatoes, 58%. Yeah, it's not great. Like, that's not a great review. That's 100 actual reviews. Audience reviews, about the same, 56%. Metacritic, 52%. IMDB giving it 7 out of 10.

That was my problem. It didn't give it context. But without giving it away too much at the end it did. Oh, like one little redeeming moment. But I think that's what they were trying to portray is that you can have the most charming of men and everyone loves them

but they can be like, you can't trust anyone. They can be a psycho. You can't trust that everyone had watched the Ted Bundy tapes before you watched that movie because I watched the movie and I still don't know what he did. Yeah, I'd save yourself an hour and a half. I'd just watch the Ted Bundy tapes on Netflix

and forget the Zac Efron movie. I mean, you see Zac's bum. Megan's happy because you got to see his bum. I did watch it with my husband so so I didn't celebrate it internally. I was like, yes, he's a great butt. Did he look at you when his butt came on? No. Okay.

Because I don't flinch. I've learnt in this marriage you don't flinch and you just internally celebrate. If you're watching that, how can he get angry if you're like, oh, you're a nice butt, Zac Efron. Oh, no, he wouldn't. He'd be like, oh, disgusting. I can't believe they put a butt in the movie.

Disgusting. No, then your preface was like, oh, great butt, but like, I don't know. He's got too much abs. That's too much, you know? Too much. It's a bit much. Too much. Right, okay.

He's like, yeah, yeah. But then would he get in trouble if he was like, oh, that chick's so hot in a movie? 100%. No, we just don't comment. Why don't you just both comment? But then if you both don't comment, you both know what each other are thinking. But then you also do the, like, you try and trap them. You're like, man, she's really pretty.

No, you can't lead him with that. You're not allowed to lead him with that. That's entrapment. That's illegal. That's illegal. If they say it, I say say I try to buy myself points I always say That dude's hot

Like that guy's a hot guy Yeah So that That's entrapment No Because I don't care Because I It's letting the witness

Letting the witness I can say that that guy's hot And I'm not gonna get But then I hope it's gonna buy me The ability to identify A hot female But it doesn't

No It must be some whack exchange rate. Like, you must have to give ten hot dude compliments before you're allowed one. Or when you leave your wife for a man, she's like, oh, I should have seen it coming. He did say a lot of guys were hot. There was breadcrumbs.

There was a trail. There was more than a breadcrumb trail. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. It's Billie Eilish and Megan. The podcast. ZM. It's Billie Eilish. Wish you were gay on ZM. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan.

25 to 8. The stat. Round of applause here. She is great. That was great, Billie. I went to that concert. There wasn't a lot of applause. It was just way more like screaming.

Yeah. Like at the end of the songs, I wasn't like. Because I went to the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra at the weekend. Oh, that's clapping. Oh, you went to the Star Wars thing. The Star Wars one. They play a phenomenal... So they put the movie on the screen.

And it's the movie without the music. It's got the sound effects, the dialogue and everything. Yeah. Oh, you just forgot that they were there. But they were live. That's to say how good they were. Right. And then you look down and you just see this person

on a cello just absolutely going to town. So do they get a break at all? Yeah, they do. There's parts of the movie without. Oh, yeah. And then there's an intermission as well. Yeah.

It was phenomenal. And now at that show, there was lots of. Isn't it funny that people know that, okay, this is a event as opposed to a. Stop. I tried clapping at Billie Eilish and the kids in front of me turned around and laughed.

Good job, Billie. I was like, shut your mouth. That's great. This stat has actually come out of New Zealand. It is the marriage rate for last year. It has fallen to its lowest since a major peak in 1971. So in 1971, there was 45.5 people, or is that marriages?

It's probably couples, yeah. Right. Per 1,000. Okay. 45.5 per 1,000. And last year, it was 10.8 per 1,000 people getting married or having civil unions. So it has dropped massively.

It's halved since 1988. So the general rate is just slowly declining. I don't know. But then is divorce going down as well? Well, it must be. Isn't divorce on the decline? Because people aren't rushing into marriages as much.

Well, yeah, because it's not like the old days. I'm not saying everybody who gets divorced rushed into a marriage, but I'm saying like the old days. I'm not saying everybody who gets divorced rushed into a marriage, but I'm saying like the old days it was pretty frowned upon. Yeah. There would have been a lot of people of like our grandparents' generation who would not have wanted their kids to have kids

without being married, so there might have been a bit of a rushed situation. Because there was a point where people would say half of these marriages will fail, but it's not half anymore. It's less than. I think it's like 40%. It's always half the amount.

So if a thousand people got married, there'll be 500 divorces, but then that also includes marriages from all years previous. Yeah, but there's not as many divorces happening as well. Because there's not as many marriages. Now. No, because the people getting married now aren't necessarily going to get

divorced right now. Because millennials are just staying at home and playing with themselves on the internet. They're not meeting people. That's what they say. They're not rushing out there and getting married. No, but also like heaps of people just don't feel like it's a necessity anymore. You know? It's a very expensive day. It is.

And you always get those people on the day when there's no turning back. On the day, they're like, oh, this all could have been a very nice house deposit. You're like, well, thank you, ma'am. Do people say that? It's too late now. At your wedding. Yeah. Both times.

I mean, I've had two. I've spent a lot of money. You could have had two houses. And I don't have a house. You could have had a rental. No capital gains, baby. You probably had three rentals by now. Yeah, I get it.

Because when was your first wedding? 2009. Oh, God, that was pre-boom. You probably could have been a slumlord by now. And then 2018. Wondering about the possibility of capital gains and how ungrateful your tenants are because they want pink bats. Like all that classic landlord stuff.

Spent thousands of dollars on a day where I wear a dress once. I get it. Yeah, I could have had a house. You looked great, though, didn't day where I wear a dress once. I get it. Yeah. I could have had a house. You looked great though didn't you? I did. Yep.

And I've got those photos forever. You can put them on the wall of your rental. Yeah. The rental you live in. Because that'd be weird if you actually owned

a rental and you made your tenants look at photos of your wedding. But not hammered into the wall just 3M stickied on so they can come off easy. And don't roll those off.

Don't pull them off. You'll take off the paper and then you're not getting your bond back. What a great podcast so far. Wouldn't you agree, Fletch? Yes. And it's all thanks to Spark. Get one gig of bonus data with the Spark U25 pack. Now back to the podcast.

So yesterday it was Sunday. Yep. Yep. It was the day before Monday. Answering the age old question, what day yesterday it was Sunday. Yep. It was the day before Monday. Answering the age old question, what day is it on Sunday? Yesterday. So last week we took the dogs out to the beach. West Auckland beach. Muriwai beach.

Lovely beach. Beautiful photos. Yeah. Oh great, like great beach. Don't trust the ocean out there for a second though. Oh yeah, she's pretty rough. She's very unpredictable. But anyway, we didn't go in because it's freezing. Although there were people swimming out there yesterday, and I was like, y'all need to check up.

Wet suits swimming or like? No, one trick was just in togs. I'm like, you are super keen. Is it still warm, though, the water? Doubtful. No. Doubtful, yeah. Very doubtful.

It's May. But when we went out there with the dogs, we read the sign that you can drive on the beach, but you have to get a permit. So I was like, that's interesting. I'll look into that. And I looked into it. It doesn't cost anything to get the permit.

They just want to know who's driving on the beach. So if something happens and they can say, oh, it was a black four-wheel drive and this is the partial number plate, I guess they can get in contact with you. I doubt someone who's driving like a maniac on the beach is registering for a permit. Well, that's the other thing.

But I'm a law-abiding citizen, trying to set a good example. So I went on and I found it didn't cost anything, so I was like, sweet. So I applied for a permit and then I just got it straight away in the email. Do they email you the permit? And all you've got to have it is on your phone. So if you get asked by, I don't know, on the odd occasion there might be somebody out there, you just show

them and they're like, sweet ass. Who told you you could do doughies on the beach? These guys. Yeah, I've got a permit for doughies. They asked me what I was coming for because it does say, is it like a picnic, sightseeing, are you going fishing, are you launching a boat? And doughies, because it's West Auckland. I didn't say doughies, though that would be

a funny one. So, got it? And then I was like, well this is great. Sunday, I said to the girls, let's go and have breakfast on the beach. That's pretty cute. That'd be pretty cool. Like a picnic breakfast. Yeah, yeah. I've never heard of a picnic breakfast. I know. So I'm like,

it's going to be great. I was like, we'll get in our warm clothes and we'll go out and we'll take the Hyundai out because it's got the little button you push and it's like... Is that the first time you... There's a skiddy button.

What is that button? It's a diff lock, right? I don't know. And that means, I'm about to be told I'm wrong, but because the wheels, if one wheel starts spinning, it can spin by itself

or it stops it doing that. Either. Anyway, you push that because you don't want to do skiddies. So is this your first time pushing that button? Yeah. That's exciting. And there's another button that's like the anti-skid button and I've never pushed that

either. Yeah. But that's more for like icy stuff. Because why don't they tell you what these buttons are? Why isn't there like... They do. There's a manual if you read a manual. No, but like nobody's reading a manual or that gets thrown away.

You buy a secondhand car. No one knows what these buttons are for. Just Google. What does this button do? No, but write it underneath, like anti-skid or something. If you hold it down, it should be like, okay, dumbass, this is to push when you're in skiddy conditions. Right, and it makes an announcement on the radio.

If you hold it down. Hold it down for like three seconds, it makes the announcement. If you just push it, it does whatever it does. Hold it down, makes the announcement. Again, solving the world's problems. That's a great, that would be good for cars. Underneath the speedo, a massive like 14 font size

thing. The petrol cap's on the left hand side. No, there's a little arrow. If you don't see the little arrow, you don't deserve to know what it's like. There's not a little arrow. Well, on most cars there's like a little arrow. Or there's some sort of indicator. No, it's not on my car. There's absolutely not. Well, then you should just remember.

Because you've been driving your car for what, 15 years? Do you actually still forget? Yeah, because I've got, both cars are different. One car's one side and one car's the other. And I'm always like, which one's which? Little and low. Even if you park on the wrong side, it'll still reach. Yeah, but it's annoying.

I always just go over the car and... Anyway, so we're going to have a breakfast brunch on the beach. And I was like, it would be great. We'll cook bacon and eggs out there. What? Yeah, I know. So I went and bought a little barbecue. This is the best part.

I went in and there was a $20 barbecue. Does your permit allow you to cook on the beach? Yep. What about the fire ban? No, it's not a fire ban. It's not lifted. It's not an open wildfire. Right.

It's a contained fire. And we're down on the sand. Okay. So I was like that, and I was like, brilliant, that'll fit the gas bottle. So grabbed the gas bottle, got all the way out to there, had like the eggs, the bacon. This was, I'd taken care of everything. The family just had to get in the car. Okay.

Got out there, engaged anti-skid thing, which'd taken care of everything. The family just had to get in the car. Got out there, engaged anti-skid thing, which was a little bit scary. I turned it off because every time your wheel started spinning it would take the power out of your accelerator. And I was like, if I lose power I might sink into the sand. So I was like, off with you. That was a fair bit

of fun, driving on the sand. The kids were all freaking out. I was like, it's fine. And I didn't know it was going to be fine. I don't like cars like that that tell you what to do. Like change your pedal and stuff. Yeah, like takes over. You're like, I'll be in charge here, mate. If I'm going to sink, it's on my watch. I don't want to have to blame

you. So then we get there, unpack, get it all set up. I'm like, this is going great. And I go to screw the hose onto the gas bottle. Doesn't fit. And I packed what I can only describe as a dad tent. Dad tents are where you just go quiet and you don't want anybody to say anything about it

and you say things like, I've effed it up, I've effed it up. God damn it, I've effed it right up. And you storm off down the beach and you've got to have a bit of a cool down and you're like how can i make sure and then you come back and you're like right get in the car nope it's done we're going but we want to play with the dogs get in the car i'm starving so there was nothing that you could eat nothing well no because it's raw bacon it was

raw bacon yeah was there even some juice? Some orange juice? You just had a cup of orange juice? No there was milk that I bought for the girls but there was only coffee for the... You couldn't eat the water. It was my first I think real good because I remember my dad having these

he just went at you. You know that there's no one else to blame and you're not blaming anybody else and you're so wild at yourself And then you just You just want silence You don't want to hear I'm getting hungry I'm like ooh

Shush And the dad tent lasted So when we got home We didn't go home first I went straight to my antenna And I bought the adapter thing I needed went home I set up the barbecue

on the driveway and I turned it on and boiled my jug and made myself a coffee in the driveway just like you can say you've done it make yourself

you didn't make it for everyone and then I had that coffee and Sade comes out and she's like is that making you feel better and I was like you'd be actually surprised

this has really turned the day around I was ready to pack the day in completely and just go straight back to bed. Well, you came into work grumps this morning. Oh, that's because I woke up full of snot. Because you went out to the beach on a cold morning.

But that was the other thing. It wasn't cold. Right. We're in May now. Yeah. That's a more dad chat. It certainly would have been. It should be March cold or we're in May now.

It should be March cold. It was unseasonably warm out there. Might stop burning tyres. This global warming thing might have a bloody bit of legs to it. All right, next on the show, am I a bad person? We have received some correspondence to the show. It's an email. Flirty correspondence.

Well, it's about flirting. It's not. They weren't flirting with us, sadly. No. But, yeah, I think we're going to get our judgy pants on next New Zealand. Also coming up, more rounds of Food Fight before nine o'clock. We're searching for New Zealand's number one packet of chippies. We're going to have to eat more chippies, aren't we?

Do we? Maybe not. After last week. Actually, over the weekend, I was thinking in my head, I was like, I had a lot of chips last week. And then I was like, probably equivalent of two of chips last week and then I was like, probably equivalent of two packs before nine o'clock each day.

Yeah. That's so bad, eh? I still had chips on the weekend though. I had my favourite from last week. It's because it was stuck in your head the whole week. Yeah, it was stuck in my head. I was like, no,

I only had a taster of it so I better get into the whole, I'm not saying I don't want to, you don't want to sway voters. I don't want to sway voters. I'm neutral. Am I a bad person? So, so I better get into the whole, I'm not saying, I don't want to. You don't want to sway voters? I don't want to sway voters. I'm neutral. Am I a bad person? So, am I a bad person?

It's someone, where someone comes to us with a dilemma and we have to get our judgey pants on and decide if what they're doing makes them a bad person or not. A lot of the time it is anonymous, so if you find yourself in a situation where maybe you need some help, some advice, FBMZM, you can message us on our Facebook page. So this has come in the form of an email. No names.

I was hoping I could get your help on something. Bad person. I'm too embarrassed to talk to my friends about this, but I'm hoping that I'm not alone in this dilemma. Am I a bad person for flirting with other men while I'm in a relationship? I love my partner. We've been together three years and I couldn't be happier. But sometimes I find myself

wanting to flirt with other men when I'm out. Wanting to flirt? When I'm out without him. Intentions there. It's not like it's just accidental and they're just friendly and it comes across as flirting.

God, the judges coming on thick and fast from Smithy. We haven't finished the email yet. I wouldn't want it to go any further, but sometimes I can't help myself from having a little flirt with hot men that I see out and about. It's not getting any better. You've not won me over. Is this just me? Is this just me? Right.

Oh my god. So, yeah. Do you want to know what our Instagram poll says? Yes. So, we asked this question, are they a bad person? Yes, 47. Ooh. And that's normal, 53.

So, people saying it is normal if you are in a relationship to have a little harmless flirt. I always think if your partner was there, would you be acting that way? Yeah, actually, that's a good way of looking at it. Because there's harmless flirting that you can do a little laugh and have a joke around, and your partner probably wouldn't even... That's weird to me.

That's not flirting. That's just being friendly. No, that's what I mean. If your partner was there, that probably wouldn't upset them. But, like, what are we talking about here? But is that still considered flirting? That always blows my mind that people are like,

that was a bit flirty and you might have just been, like, polite and friendly and had a laugh. But if that's to a stranger that's also hot, of course that's flirting. Oh, so it's whether or not they're hot that makes it flirting.

Right, okay. If they're not attractive, it's not flirting. It's being a nice human. I know, but what are your intentions, though? It's all about the intentions. Like, are you, are you, you know in yourself if you're flirting or if you're just being friendly?

This email sounds like she is going out of her way. When he's not around, she's flirting with hot guys. Is it because she wants to feel some love? Like, I've still got this. It kind of sounds like it. I've still got this. It kind of sounds like it. I've still got this, like... Girl still got it. Yeah, it's just attention-seeking, isn't it?

It's another form of attention-seeking. Yeah. Is she not getting out of the home? See, if you know that if your partner was there and they'd be upset by it, then I don't think it is good. I think you're a bad person. What about now that you've got a boyfriend,

producer Caitlin, how do you feel about this? Well, yeah, because I went through... No, I didn't're a bad person. What about now that you've got a boyfriend, producer Caitlin, how do you feel about this? Well, yeah, because I went through no, I didn't go through this dilemma. Before I got a boyfriend, I would always say to my friends, how do you not flirt with people? Just because I've had 28 years of

trying to flirt, obviously there was something wrong that I was doing. It didn't work until now. And a few of my friends definitely won't tell you who they are. We're like, oh, you still do. But just not go any further. You don't carry it on. Yeah.

But then I don't know what they, I didn't go into it with them. So I didn't know if they what their intentions were. But then also I'm saying that some girls I'm like, they are so flirting with that person and they've got a boyfriend. But then they're just, as you said, Megan, or Vaughn said it, they're just being nice.

So I don't know. But I don't think I do flirt with guys. I might like go a bit, but I'm not really a flirtatious. I go a bit giggly and shy if I find like a guy hot. But like, I just think if you're satisfied in your relationship, you don't really feel the need. I forgot once, but then I remembered that I had a guy hot. But, like, I just think if you're satisfied in your relationship, you don't really feel the need. I forgot once, but then I remembered that I had a boyfriend. I forgot once.

We hadn't forgotten. I think it was, I was like, and I was like, oh, I've got a boyfriend. But then I was like, also, Caitlin, rate yourself. But, like, laughing, that's weird because that's, surely it's the intent that makes it flirting or whatever. If you're just laughing at someone's joke, you're just having a laugh. Yeah, but that's the thing, like, I don't know,

like twirling your hair could be seen as flirting. I don't know. And like touching, like having a laugh and then like touching them and being like, you're so funny. But it's also what you know. Oh my God, your abs are so clean. Oh my God.

I just rubbed my fingers up. Actually, do you work out? Oh my God, how often? Oh my God, harmless flirts. Dude, abs. Can I see? So, okay, well, this is the part where we take your calls.

What do you think? And judging by the voting online, it is 50-50. 0800 DALS at M. You can text 9696. Is she a bad person for wanting to flirt even though she has a boyfriend? Maybe you've been in this situation.

Like, where do you draw the line? Because a little bit of flirting, it could carry on if it's at work. Maybe at work drinks, everyone gets drunk, and then that flirting turns into kissing in the stairwell. It's just a harmless kiss. Yeah, exactly. I just came home because he had nowhere else to sleep that night.

I was being charitable. This all went pretty quick. It's a slippery slope porn, is what I'm saying. It all flew by. So is she a bad person? Give us a call. 0800-DANCE-AT-HEM-9696 Am I a bad person? So we've received an email. Am I a bad person

for flirting with other men while I'm in a relationship? So they've been together three years. She's happy but she said, sometimes I find myself wanting to flirt with other men when I'm out without him. She specifically mentions

flirt with hot men I see out and about. See, I just, she just wants to feel alive. She wants to feel like she's still got it. Maybe she, I mean, I don't know.

Some people put a picture on Instagram and get likes. You mean like a, You know, your partner, that's a conversation you should be having with your partner because obviously you're not getting what you need from that relationship.

Somebody said, I always think in these situations, what if the shoe was on the other foot? How would she feel knowing her boyfriend was out flirting with hot people? And it's not, yeah, you're finding hot people to flirt with. What's your intention there?

So it's changed in the last couple of minutes. Our Instagram poll asking on our page. It is actually 50-50. It's evenly split. Is she a bad person? Yeah, it really is. Rachel, what do you think? Is she a bad person? I do, I'm afraid.

You obviously wouldn't flirt with someone. You wouldn't flirt? You wouldn't find that acceptable? Absolutely not. If he was either? Okay. No, no way. I agree with that text message and the fact that put the shoe on the other foot.

That's always my rule of thumb. Yeah, same. How would she feel if he was out there doing that with other chicks? I'm sure she wouldn't be happy. That's exactly what I do in the relationship. And that's how I justify whenever I'm sure she wouldn't be happy. That's exactly what I do in the relationship. And that's how I justify whenever I'm hurt. I'm like, flip it around. If you were doing this, how do you think you would feel?

Thanks, Rachel. Jess, what do you think? Is she a bad person? Yeah, I do. It's exactly what I said. If she wouldn't be comfortable with her partner doing that, then you can't do it. It's not fair.

Yeah, she should be getting what she needs out of her relationship. I agree. Right, so you think if you do find the need to be flirting with guys, maybe you should look at your relationship and get out of it? Well, if she wouldn't be comfortable telling her partner that that's what she wants to do, then she shouldn't be doing it. And also, she's waiting until he's not there, so she doesn't feel comfortable doing what she's doing in front of him.

So it's not harmless. Thanks, Jess. Josh, is she a bad person? Hey there, so she doesn't feel comfortable doing what she's doing in front of him, so it's not harmless. Thanks, Jess. Josh, is she a bad person? Hey there, yeah, I just think it's a bit of a dog move because when you think about how the partner would feel if he knew that she was doing that, look, if it was me in his shoes, I'd just feel a bit stingy.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah, like the same thing, when you flip it around, like, it's just not, it's just a dog move. And serious conversations need to be had in that relationship, I think. True. It's interesting, though, Josh, that nobody, it's 50-50 on our online voting, but nobody is actually calling to talk to us and say, no, she's... Maybe they don't want to get found out that they're actually...

It's a pretty hard sell. It is, it is. To put your voice to it, it's a pretty hard sell. Thanks to you, cool Josh. Some text messages. Somebody said, you're not a bad person. My bet is he's doing it behind your back as well. Well, you don't know.

He might be really into her. I get the feeling that she's like, yeah, missing something. She needs to feel a bit more special in that relationship. Because she doesn't feel attractive or, I don't know. Someone said flirting's okay. Just remember, it doesn't matter where you get your rapidite as long as you eat your meals at home.

That sounds like some 1950s. Let me take this like 2019. What about Instagram liking hot girls or hot guys? How do we feel about that? Are you a bad person for doing that? But that's more admiring. You're not directly having a connection

with that person in front of you. But you could be, I'm talking like... Trying to slip slide into their DMs is significantly worse. Yeah. But also... I mean, you're a DM away from it though, aren't you? Yeah.

I'm not talking like Hollywood celebrities. I'm talking like, you know, they could be local people. Yeah. Like the neighbour. I don't know. Like the hot neighbour. Could you just be like... Yeah. Kimberly, you are the

first person to call and say that she is not a bad person. Yes, can you hear me? I can, yeah. I was thinking, like, people are saying, what if it was on the other side? What is that relationship like? You know, they might have a relationship where that's okay. You know, they've been in a relationship for three years.

You know, maybe it's something that you can't get from that one person. And, you know, you just, it's harmless flirting. You know, it's something that makes you feel good. and it might be something that their partner can't give but you know if they were both happy to flirt with other people and do that you know it's nothing more than a harmless flirt or sometimes you don't even know what it comes across like know, you're just being friendly and then it's what others perceive as flirting. Two things though, Kim. He doesn't know, so they're not both doing it. It doesn't sound like it's an agreement,

but I totally get what you're saying with that. And also, if she's not getting what she needs from him in a relationship, do you think that the relationship's got, like, long-term legs? No, I don't. I think everyone has different ideas about what a relationship should and shouldn't be. And, you know, we're becoming a lot more progressive in regards to, you know, you don't just have one friend and you just stay there and they meet all your friends. You have a lot of different friends with different needs.

So, you know, in order to feel... In order to, you know, it takes a village to raise a child, right? Yeah. And in that same sense, you have a village to kind of... Satisfy a person. Yeah. It takes a village to satisfy a person. I like that.

It's a good one. Yeah. That's a greedy person. No, it is a good point, but it's a conversation that she needs to satisfy a person. I like that. It's a good one. Yeah. That's a greedy person. No, it is a good point, but it's a conversation that she needs to have with him. Yeah. Because she's doing it behind his back. Yeah, if you're on the same page and you're...

For sure. Yeah, then you agree. I think it's definitely a conversation, but, you know, if she's going, oh, am I a bad person? Definitely have a conversation with him and go, hey, I've been doing this or I've been thinking this. You know, what are your thoughts?

You know, it might be something where it's completely fine or it might be something like, hey, well, you know, I've noticed this. Are you okay with me bringing a hottie home occasionally? Yeah, exactly. Kimberly, thanks for your call. Would you say text message-wise would be 50-50 as well? No. Really?

Swaying which way? Swaying very much towards you're a bad person. Oh, okay. I'm going to just have an update of this poll. Yeah, still 50-50. Wow. That's nuts, isn't it? I think we have a more vocal one side.

I don't think the people who think that she's not. It's the much easier side to be vocal for. People who think she's not a bad person don't want to say anything. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Today's fact of the day, because it was May the 4th on Saturday, that's Star Wars Day. May the 4th be with you. Yep.

And also at the end of last week, sad news that the guy that played Chewbacca died. Peter Mayhew died at the age of 74. I'm just reading here. It's already got on Wikipedia. What did they do in the last movie? Was he in that? Was he Chewbacca? Yes.

So he played Chewbacca right up until The Force Awakens, but then in The Return of the Jedi. No, not The Return of the Jedi. What was the last one called? Nah. Just born the last movie that came out that he was in. The last one or the one before the last one? The last Jedi.

The new Jedi. The Jedi. The last Jedi. Jumping all over the place. The latest Jedi. The latest Jedi. The latest Jedi strikes back. The latest Jedi.

He wasn't in that. Somebody else played Chewbacca in that, but he played Chewbacca from 1977 to 2015. That's right. They've got their replacement sorted. He was seven foot three inches tall, so that's why he got Chewbacca role. This is the story,

today's story of the day, is that when he went to audition, he was actually offered the role of Darth Vader or Chewbacca, and he got to pick. Oh, okay. the role of Darth Vader or Chewbacca, and he got to pick. Oh, okay. Because they wanted Darth Vader to be really tall, obviously, the villain to be tall and intimidating.

Yep. So when he stood up, apparently he was on a couch, and George Lucas was kind of finished with auditions for the day, and he walked out, and he stood up because he said he's British, and that was a thing when someone walked into the room, you stood up and you shook their hand. Yep. So he stood up, and he said he was towering over George Lucas and George Lucas was like, I want you

and I'm going to give you options of who you want to play. So then he gave him the breakdown of what Chewbacca involved and then the breakdown of what Darth Vader involved and he chose Chewbacca because he wanted to be a hero. He wanted to be on the good guy side. And also famously, the guy that played Darth Vader had his voice dubbed over. Yeah. So he didn't get anything.

He was just basically an extra. David Prowse, he was a bodybuilder. Yeah. And he thought he was going to be, because when they were recording the dialogue for the movie, he was actually saying all the lines. Oh, that's so upsetting. Yeah. And then he went, I mean, I imagine he was told beforehand. Yeah.

What are you doing over there, guy? You are? Come here, son. And then they got James Earl Jones to do the voiceover instead. Oh, so he chose well. Yeah. Why do you chew? He doesn't really get lines either, right?

He doesn't speak. Just noises. I don't know how much of the, he may have done it originally, but I don't know how much of the noises he was doing towards the end of things. But yeah, he passed away last week at the age of 74. But today's fact of the day is Peter Mayhew, who played Chewbacca in all movies of Star Wars, except for the latest,

was actually given the option if he wanted to be Chewbacca or Darth Vader. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Fletch, Vaughn and Megan's Food Fight. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- And we had a lot of voting last week, and we've already said goodbye to some big flavours, some big chips. Some big names have been wiped. Now, competing in this round, they're lucky to be here. Because it was a disqualification in round one as we tasted grain waves for what must have been the first time in a couple of years, and we were like...

What is this? Filth. Changed the recipe. So we disqualified them, eliminated them. And their competitor, chicken chips, have come through to the next round. But technically they were voted out. Technically they were. They were outvoted, but their competitor was disqualified, so they're back in.

I can't see them beating who they're up against. Well, I can't even get into them. Who rolled over to seal? No, someone has rolled over to seal. Oh, no, you don't do that. It's an amateur sealing mistake. Oh, okay. We're not resealing that, are we?

I mean, we know what a chicken chip tastes like, don't we? Yeah, I don't need to taste them. We do need your crunch, though. Have they stayed the freshness? Well, that's going to be more of an advertisement for the sealer, isn't it? But let's have a little. Sounded a little bit. Sounded a little soft.

No, it's still pretty crunchy. Still pretty good? That might be because my nose is blocked, so we're not getting that reverberation through the nasal passage. Oh, yeah. And chicken is taking on a great sealing. Is that bluebird? That's bluebird

chicken. What is this? Versus... What is that? Is that bluebird? That's bluebird chicken. What is this? Versus... What is that? Is it a tattoo? Oh, it must have been left in there. There's something... Someone's put something in our bag of chips and then sealed it in there. That's weird.

Looks like a pH test that you use on your pool to see if you need to put more calorium. Okay, up against salt and vinegar. Yeah, I think your colds Really cause last week Your chip noises Were real good Your sound effects Were

Yeah that was better That's better See salt and vinegar Versus chicken There's no Competition Salt and vinegar's Gonna rock home

In that one I reckon it'll be Close to 90% Salt and vinegar Or maybe 80 I reckon it'll be 80-20 What's early voting? I'm very disappointed if chicken even makes a stand

against salt and vinegar, I'll be disappointed. It's the go-to. Early voting on that? Early voting. Any early voting to report while I open these other bags? Hang on. Because there's two. 71% to salt and vinegar.

Salt and vinegar. As it should be. Now, this is an interesting round. Much like round one, it's like versus like, isn't it? Your potato chip, different flavours, but this is the corn chips. This is the cheese flavoured snacks. Yeah. It's burger rings.

Oh yeah, that was good. But that's not cheese flavoured. It's nothing's back. That's burger flavour. Yeah, but it's like a cheese. Yeah, it's good. It's good stuff. There you go. I know nothing's back. That's burger flavor. Yeah, but it's like a cheese. Yeah, it's good. It's good stuff. There you go.

I know you're a big fan of burger rings. I love the B-rings. Versus rations. So it's burger flavor versus bacon and, what is it? Bacon and cheese. Cheese and bacon. Cheese and bacon. I'm going to go burger rings over rations.

Love them both. Yeah, me too. No, I'm going to go rations. What?. Love them both. Yeah, me too. No, I'm going to go rations. On taste today. More flavour? Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to know who's in the minority?

Who? Vaughn. Vaughn. Burger Rings are ahead 57% currently. Close though. That could easily sway back. I think you're right though. Rations are good.

They do have a lot more flavour than rations. Much more of a finger lick afterwardsations. Much more of a finger lick afterwards too. Much more of a post chip finger lick required on the rations versus the bergerings.

So you can go to our Instagram account FBMZM and vote on those two rounds and the winners will advance to the next round of voting as we try through this

edition of Food Fight to try to find New Zealand's favourite chip as Fletch. Have I stalled for enough time? Thank you for stalling. I had to finish. I put four burgerings in at once.

Some would have said a little ambitious. Some would have said one for the crunch would have been enough. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Some boomers are at it again. This is, of course, baby boomers are referred to. Those born in the 10 to 15 year period after World War II ended. Yep. So sort of my parents are the lower, younger end of the boomers.

A baby boomer has been videoed climbing aboard the Britain V1000 motorbike exhibit at Te Papa. Now, if you've been at Te Papa and you've seen this, it's a famous motorbike. It's super rare. It's New Zealander. Of course, built them. I haven't seen it, but I imagine it's, is it behind a barrier?

No, but it's quite elevated. Right. It's like on a platform. Yeah, like standing at it. Oh, wow, okay. My eye would be about the level of the foot pegs. Like it's up. Yeah, like standing at it, my eye would be about the level of the foot pegs. Like it's up to stop people from climbing on it. Well, someone mounted the pedestal that it's on, climbed up and actually had a photo sitting on the motorbike.

She said, I'm going to hop up on it and get a photo for Facebook. And some dude was like, this is going to be bananas. So he started videoing and now there's there's video and photos of this woman mounting the Britain motorcycle. It's worth $700,000. Oh my god. I'm surprised

it's not behind a perspex or a glass wall. Well, they said there's still no they still don't plan to put it behind there yet. They just hope that there's no repeat performance. They didn't have a sign saying don't sit on this? I feel like you don't need it. It's in a museum. You're not supposed to

mount things that are already mounted. I'm not allowed to ride that elephant at Auckland Museum anymore. So she should be allowed to be able to get on the Britain. Is it their fault for having some interactive stuff? You know, because you play with the buttons and you turn the dials and that kind of stuff. And then if you can climb to get onto the motorboat, you should be allowed to be on it.

Well, apparently when she got down, someone was like, well, what were you doing? She's like, he was a friend of mine. John Britton, the guy that made the motorboats. I know him. He's a friend of mine. I don't think that matters. Would have wanted it this way. Would have wanted it this way. Would have wanted it this way.

So in the photo, I can see it does say something in the bottom of the mat. And I think the first word is please. The next two words are little. So I would assume it says please do not maybe touch. Do not touch. It says please do not touch. Yeah. So also we can work out Vaughn has better eyesight.

Hey, no, that's blurry. He's just assuming. No, definitely, Fletch. You've got the eyesight of the show. Yeah, please do not touch. Oh, all right. He's just assuming too. Your computer's on the blank.

You might have lost a bit of retina display. But yes, please do not touch. Your parents wouldn't carry on like this. Oh, Christine doesn't have the hips to climb that. She had the hip replacement. She gets a bit well into the movement. It's on quite an angle. It's like it's doing a wheelie't have the hips to climb that. She had the hip replacement. She gets a bit well into the movement. It isn't quite an angle.

It's like it's doing a wheelie almost, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, she's lucky she didn't fall off and hurt herself, do herself a mischief. She would have done

herself a real mischief if she had slipped off that. Yeah. Let alone if she'd fallen this way, the foot peg could have ripped her jeans or given her a nasty gash.

It was boomers that told me they'd taken part of the pyramids when I was overseas too. They're like, we've got them at home. Great. I'm like, I don't think you're supposed to take some of the pyramid with you. So if everybody took a bit of a pyramid, we'd be standing in the desert.

Yeah. Unbelievable. There is a weird sense of entitlement with boomers when it comes to these sorts of things. We've been paying tax all this time. We deserve something. I'm taking a bit of the bloody pyramid. I'm paying my taxes.

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