ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - May 14 2019

Episode Date: May 13, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 ZM. Head music lives here. Fletch Forna Megan, the podcast. Thanks, Anya. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch Forna Megan. How exciting would that be? Intern at NASA. Is it like an intern here? Yeah, I was going to say they blame you for everything. Oh, we've crashed a bloody rover. Intern did it. Oh, I didn't. Yes, you did. Take the blame, intern. It's for the best. Do you want this job or not? So, yeah. But it would be exciting.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Oh, get some NASA apparel. Oh, you get a prettier NASA polo. Yes. Bomber jacket. Oh, yes. That's good stuff. That'd be nice. How many New Zealanders?
Starting point is 00:00:44 Three, two, four. We got that in 2019. Eight's good stuff. That'd be nice. How many New Zealanders? Three, two, four. We got there in two, nine years. Eight's too many. Down, down, down. Four, four. Four New Zealanders. All right, you lot, listen up. It's story time.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Three news headlines for story time. As always, Vaughan and Megan pick one of the following three headlines. Headline one, why did the chicken cross the road? Headline two, man dressed as a joker seen stealing tip jar. And headline three, shut after 48 hours.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I don't know. Why did the chicken cross the road? Yeah, that's an age-old one-liner, isn't it? It certainly is. But there's something about it that piques the interest. Does the chicken fare well in this story? Is there a chicken? There is a chicken.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Okay. There is an actual chicken, yes. Okay, go. You want that one? Go, proceed with chicken. We want that one? Go, proceed with chicken. We want that one? Yes, please. Sorry, wjactv.com is just loading.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Well, we'll wait. Wjactv. Wjacat.com. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. We got there. Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:02:03 We go. And a one-legged chicken is back on two feet after a group of eighth grade students. I don't know how old's eighth grade. It's the eighth year at school. So last year at intermediate. I mean, last year at intermediate. Yeah, right. Well, they took action to help the nearly year-old chicken
Starting point is 00:02:25 named Blue walk again, and they printed out a 3D prosthetic leg for it. A chicken feet. Wow. That's so cute. How was the chicken getting around? Did it have a bendy knee? Did it, like, hop?
Starting point is 00:02:45 Yeah. I think they've got a bendy knee, yeah they have a bendy knee? Did it like hop? Yeah. I think they've got a bendy knee, yeah. Do chickens have knees? Do chickens have knees? So apparently it got into a fight with a raccoon.
Starting point is 00:02:55 A raccoon broke into its chicken heart. That's a stacked match. Several chickens RIP in that incident. Blue got her leg nibbled off but managed to survive the attack. I need help with my Googling.
Starting point is 00:03:11 I've Googled chicken legs, chicken, and everything's coming up with cooked chickens and it's really upsetting me. How do I Google real life chicken and real life chicken? The knees jammed exactly between the chicken's drumstick and the thigh is a joint for the skilled butcher to clearly sever. Oh, okay, so that's about butchering. Oh, yeah, no, they do.
Starting point is 00:03:29 But it's like an internal knee. Oh, no, it's not. It's where the fluffy bit ends, it bends. Yeah. So that's the bottom of the drumstick, isn't it? So I can show you the CAD drawing there of its chicken leg. This is rad. It's very, like they made a,
Starting point is 00:03:45 I guess like a hollow inside so the stub could go in. Yeah, that's how prosthetics work. And they jam that on. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, it's very basic,
Starting point is 00:03:54 but it does the job. Imagine doing that at intermediate school. Like, can you remember what you did at intermediate? So like you do like all the. Our technology stuff was very limited. We did metalwork, woodwork, sewing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:10 But there was no 3D printers. No, yeah. There was no making prosthetics for a chicken. Looking further into bird knees, it seems it's further up in the chicken. It's up. It might even actually be the end of the drumstick. The fat end of the drumstick.
Starting point is 00:04:29 That's the knee. That's the knee. That's the knee up there. I found a video of a chicken running in sneakers. What? This is good stuff. Someone's made little chicken sneakers. But it doesn't seem to be having a good time.
Starting point is 00:04:47 No, they look quite heavy. They look like kids sneakers, don't they? And the bit that bends at the bottom of the fluffy bit, that's technically the ankle of the chicken. Oh, okay. And the rest is the foot. So they've got a very long leg. It goes right up inside. It goes right up. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:03 A delicious internal leg. Yep. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. So this is something that's been happening worldwide. It's got a name now and it's happening more and more in Australia. They're calling it cyber flashing. So that is where someone sends you an unsolicited dirty image, naughty picture, yeah, or something of the sort to your eardrop.
Starting point is 00:05:30 So if you've never had eardrop before, it flashes up. A preview, like a little thumbnail of the image, flashes up on your phone and you can click accept. Or decline. Or decline, and it gets downloaded to your photo roll. You can also change on settings so only your contacts can send you those. Yeah, rather than everyone. But a lot of people just have everyone selected.
Starting point is 00:05:49 So this is a massive thing in Australia at the moment, and it's happening not only just in public places but in schools. And the intent is to kind of humiliate, intimidate, embarrass. Because I know this was happening, we talked about this happening on trains and like on the tube in London and New York because you'd be literally packed with a thousand people or hundreds of people. And you wouldn't know where it comes from.
Starting point is 00:06:13 You wouldn't know who's sending it. Yeah. Because you send, like, I sent some airdrop pictures at the weekend and like wherever you are, there's always random people that pop up. It's so easy. You could just like click on them and...
Starting point is 00:06:26 It goes over Bluetooth. They are, or if you're on the same wireless network. Yeah. Yeah. But the problem with it, and that's the reason why they're calling it cyber flashing, is because you get the preview. So you don't have an option but to see the picture,
Starting point is 00:06:41 even if you accept it or not. Yeah, it doesn't blur it out, does it? It doesn't blur it out so you get albeit small you still see the image which is why it's flashing even if they decline it they're still going to see what pops up on their screen but it's happening at schools so i can imagine like a group of guys wanting to do it to a group of girls to like embarrass them you know so they'd be sending pictures of their own penises and what have
Starting point is 00:07:08 to the girls what yeah I assume right because that would surely would lead to more embarrassment
Starting point is 00:07:14 on their behalf yeah that wouldn't yeah then I mean you shouldn't force somebody
Starting point is 00:07:20 to see you junk no unless they want to just you don't just randomly. That's why it's like flashing, running up to a group of people.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Yeah, exactly. Huzzah. We just had like, guys just flicked our bra straps when we were at school. That was bad enough. I didn't even flick bra straps. Blah.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I didn't even think that did. You didn't even touch the girls. The thought of it still makes me feel really nervous. The thought that a girl's wearing a bra made me not be able to talk. Oh, my God. A bra. If I ever see one one day, I'm going to be in big trouble. 16 past six.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I hope I don't have to undo one. From the ZM Think Tank, this is the Top Six. Recipe changes of things that are doing okay always blow my mind. Like we recently discovered Grainwaves had changed their recipe, didn't we? It was during Food Fight, the Chippy edition that we discovered this. I think companies do it to save money, don't they, a lot of the time? Cheap out on ingredients or try to make things healthier. Change the process
Starting point is 00:08:26 of making them or something. I think that was the idea, right? And this Milo recipe changes, they wanted to be a bit healthier. Yeah, but no one was under the illusion that that was vegetables. Like, come on, you knew that that was a treat. But it comes
Starting point is 00:08:41 in a green tin. The same colour as broccoli peas so they changed it in 2015 and there was immediate backlash about the taste of Milo it's changed, the recipe's changed
Starting point is 00:08:57 we're not happy well they've changed it back Milo is back, the recipe has returned to its pre-2015 change so these are the top 6 Milo is back. Milo is back. The recipe has returned to its pre-2015 change. So these are the top six Milo recipes to celebrate the original recipe returning. Number six, a 50-50 milk Milo Milo. Or as it's known, the correct way to make Milo.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Yes. You put in Milo and a little bit of milk and stir to make a paste. Yep. And then keep alternating. Yep. If you just go all the Milo, all the milk, you're just going to get a big, thick iceberg of Milo on the top. A cold Milo, eh?
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yeah. Yeah. I always preferred a cold Milo to a hot Milo. But it never mixed properly cold, though, did it? No, but I liked the iceberg on the top. Yeah. You have to make the paste. My mum still makes a Milo.
Starting point is 00:09:47 By the way, when we were young, Milos were very rare. There was Milo. Yum. But we weren't allowed Milo. So these recipes were all made in secret.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Yeah. But my mum will make a Milo for my daughters. Like Milo's in abundance. Unbelievable. She just, do you want a Milo? I'm like, they don't need them. You've just given them chocolate. They don't need a Milo as in abundance. Unbelievable. Do you want a Milo? I'm like, they don't need them.
Starting point is 00:10:06 You've just given them chocolate. They don't need a Milo as well. Yeah. But yeah, she'd never give you a Milo, willy-nilly. No, no. Unbelievable. I know. It's like being a grandparent, you get to do all the stuff that you didn't do being a parent.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Yeah. Yeah, I get real jealous of my niece. She makes it. She gets everything. Mum makes the Milo with boiling water still. I'm like, oh no, mum, mum, mum. These kids, I mean, it's good because they're not going to be hounding me for Milo at home because you're making them terribly.
Starting point is 00:10:31 If you wanted a chocolate drink that mixed in, you'd get Nesquik. Yeah. That mixed a lot. That mixed really well. Yeah, yeah. And then a spoonful of Milo on top. Of a Nesquik. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Oh, my. Next live. Okay. Yeah, I know. And Nesquik had the cute bunny rabbit,. Next live. Okay. Yeah, I know. And Nesquik had the cute bunny rabbit whereas Milo had some like cricket player. That's not a cute company representative. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Number five on the list of the top six Milo recipes to celebrate the original return or the original recipe return. Milo riceys. They were Coco Pops for the working class. That was what we had. And sometimes we had to go, was it Born Vita, the cheap one? Was Born Vita cheaper?
Starting point is 00:11:10 Yeah. I never saw Born Vita, so I always assumed it was the more expensive version. No, I think it was like 50 cents cheaper, maybe. But the rate we were putting Milo on Riceys, we might as well have been buying Coco Pops. We had to have supervision in the end. Supervision. So what? Supervision. Supervision. So what? Supervision.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Supervision. I thought that was a cheaper brand of Milo. Oh, gross. That chocolate drink Supervision. Because you'd end up putting so much on. Oh, yeah. Dad would stand there and be like, one teaspoon.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Sprinkle it around. Sprinkle it around. You learn to make it go away. That's where you learn to tap the spoon trick to get a good even spread. Yeah. Number four on the list of the top six Milo recipes
Starting point is 00:11:46 to celebrate the return of the original recipe are Milo ice cream. Vanilla just got teamed up with a flavour winner. Yeah. And it was kind of like smashed ice cream
Starting point is 00:11:56 before there was smashed ice cream, eh? Like we didn't have a cold stone to smash it on, but you'd smash the ice cream to work the Milo in. Yeah. And vanilla would just really take a couple of steps up the ladder.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Because we never got the fancy ice cream. No. We just got the plain blocks. We never got a hokey pokey. Yep. And that was pretty legit with Milo too, as I remember. You got the flavour and then the crunch of the little hokey pokey bits. If anybody's listening, wondering why I was a fat kid and continue to battle with weight
Starting point is 00:12:27 issues through my 20s and 30s, this is probably a real enlightening moment. Yeah. Number three on the list of the top six Milo recipes to celebrate the return of the original recipe, Milo yogurt. That was where you took... Oh. I don't think I ever did that. Did you not?
Starting point is 00:12:39 No. Because we always wanted dairy food as a kid. Yeah. And we were never allowed it. I knew that. So you got like a strawberry yogurt and you stirred in Milo. Would that be nice? It was pretty yum.
Starting point is 00:12:51 It was more like, yeah, it was yum. It was like fruity chocolate. Oh, nah, I'm not for that. It was like a cheesecake sort of, you're not feeling that. It was pretty yum. You should try it. Now I can see you're going to try it. I'll be like, hello, just a six-pack of strawberry Yoplait and this giant bag of Milo, thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Number two on the list of the top six recipes for the return of the original Milo recipe, Milo icing for a cake. But, spoiler alert, there's no cake. You're just making yourself some Milo icing. If anybody wants the Milo icing recipe, it's basically equal parts Milo icing sugar, half of that of cocoa and a big knob of butter.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Yum. That's just going off from memory there. Yeah. And the top six, today's number one in the day's top six Milo recipes to celebrate the original Milo recipe, returning a Milo dragon. This was where you got a massive spoon load of Milo
Starting point is 00:13:47 and you shoved it in your mouth and it was too dry and you sneezed and Milo came out your nose. So good. A big ladle of dry Milo. Sometimes after school, you just had a teaspoon of Milo. Yeah, it was just a little. Lucky you didn't know about lines back then.
Starting point is 00:14:03 You'd be doing lines of Milo. Your mum would be like, rolling up, rolling up. One of mum's Croxley shopping pad. Those long lists. Yeah. Roll, roll, roll, roll. It's just what you need to get through the end of the day sometimes. Hard life being a kid.
Starting point is 00:14:19 That'll get me through my homework. I've got to stop this shit. I know it's not good for me. Just one little more. One little bump. Let's do some spelling. That is today's Top 6. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan.
Starting point is 00:14:36 The podcast. So it's another coffee stat this week. What do we go through? We go, is wine bad for you? Is chocolate bad for you? Red wine, good, bad for you, bad for you. Is coffee. Good through? We go, is wine bad for you? Is chocolate bad for you? Red wine, good, bad for you, bad for you. Is coffee? Good, bad.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Coffee, good, bad. Because chocolate's good for us at the moment, right? I think the last story we heard it was good, yeah. Just like a moderate amount. And wine currently good as well? Yeah. Is that we're on a roll? We're on a roll.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Can we get all three lined up? Because it's very rare. It's like an eclipse. Yeah. That all three are lined up. So we're at, this is a study out of the University of South Australia that are looking at the debate on the threshold before coffee or caffeine becomes dangerous.
Starting point is 00:15:14 So how many coffees do you drink a day? Averagely. Two or three. Yeah, but then you've got to also count each teaspoon as one serving. I have a coffee with like two or three teaspoons. No, but what's a normal serving of coffee? A teaspoon.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Oh, so how many coffees are you having? If you have two or three, and then how many teaspoons? He's having six, and he has them all before lunch. Oh my God. Really? Yes. No, because sometimes you have three coffees. One tea of coffee.
Starting point is 00:15:47 How many teaspoons? Two. Two teaspoons of coffee. So I'm just looking at how much is in like one teaspoon. Okay. I'm pretty sure one teaspoon of instant is a serving, right? And how many would you have, Vaughan? I'd have six as well.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Okay. I have three throughout the day at least, and they're all double servings. But I spread mine out a little bit more. I have one in the afternoon. It doesn't really matter if you spread it out, according to this study. It does matter if you spread it out.
Starting point is 00:16:15 And we're talking about a day. So your waking day, you should not be having six cups of coffee. That is the threshold. So anyone that can stomach six cups of coffee a day, Ain't a little pussy. The new researchers suggest that that is really not a good idea.
Starting point is 00:16:32 So anything up to about six, the average American drinks 1.6 cups a day. I would have one if that. Does it give a microgram of caffeine? Just saying six cups. I don't know if it does. It's saying one cup here is 94.8 micrograms of caffeine.
Starting point is 00:16:51 So they're saying times that by six. No more than that. Good Lord, that's a lot of caffeine. I know. It's not even enough. You do. I could do more. So it's not good for you.
Starting point is 00:17:04 They've identified that coffee consumption habits, I could do more. So it's not good for you. They've identified that coffee consumption habits increase or lower the risk of cardiovascular disease. So if you're over the limit, which is six cups a day, you're increasing your risk of cardiovascular disease. No, we're right on the limit. We're right there. So just no more. Well, if it says you shouldn't have six cups, that means five is the limit, doesn't it? If you drink
Starting point is 00:17:30 fewer than six a day, so you guys are in the danger zone. Good. Just on the edge. Right in the danger zone. He's a real risk taker. I heard he had the equivalent of six cups of coffee a day.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Oh my God, does he? I knew a guy I met, but that's way more dangerous. You're just embracing the fact that it makes you seem like a bad boy. I'm a badass. But when people are like, oh my gosh, I've had my morning coffee and I ended up pooping immediately, I'm like, you need to drink more coffee. You're like, that's weak. If your body's been swayed that easily.
Starting point is 00:18:02 According to this stat, there are few people that exceed three or four servings of coffee. Like, you know, three or four teaspoons, should we say, of instant coffee. So you guys are in like a very high minority. We need to wake up at 4.30 or whatever and be on. Have a cup of tea. I have a cup of tea. Yeah. Doesn't do it for me.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Someone's messaged in a very good point. Megan, you have a cafe that relies on selling coffee. You shouldn't be telling people to limit their intake. I didn't think about that. Six cups of coffee is okay. Once you get to nine, maybe rein it in. Or maybe like takeaway coffee is fine, eh? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:40 From a cafe. Oh, we're talking about instant. Like actual coffee from the bean is great. Somebody messaged in saying that they probably have the equivalent of 20 coffees a day.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Oh, God. It's kind of all they drink. I can't condone They'd probably also be the person that tells you they've got really bad
Starting point is 00:18:57 insomnia. I just can't get to sleep. I don't know what's wrong with you. Your mum has a coffee before BNA. Yeah, she does.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I don't understand that. Yeah, and then she'll also tell you she's had a terrible sleep. Hello. Hello. Hello. I'm just thinking, what's today? Tuesday. Tuesday the 14th of May.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Seems cruel to do this so early in the week for people who may have, you know, tried to start afresh this week. Oh, yeah, yeah. Try to make a good start to the week. Tuesday, like Monday at the gym is always crazy. Yeah. Tuesday tapers off. By, you know, Thursday people are well and truly off the-
Starting point is 00:19:37 Friday there's no one there. Yeah. Well and truly off the bandwagon. So there'll be people that are all for this. Okay, so we're okay with it? I saw these in the supermarket at the weekend. And I was like, ah, about time. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Because Australia, because when I was in Australia earlier this year, they had them. And I tried them. They get everything so early. Yeah. Wow. There are new flavours of Maltesers in New Zealand. I've just scanned it with my fitness pal. Oh, why did you do this?
Starting point is 00:20:04 No, don't do this. They are, no. Yeah. And are they family bags? Or are they, those are the family bags, aren't they? If your family's a bunch of birds, this is not enough Maltesers for you.
Starting point is 00:20:15 They made them smaller, didn't they? They made the family. 140 gram bags. Yeah, I think they used to be like 250. 140 gram bags. No, really. Yeah, no, don't. If you eat a whole bag of those, it's really bad. Which Fletch does. Oh, really. Yeah, no, don't. If you eat a whole bag
Starting point is 00:20:25 of those, it's really bad. Which Fletch does? Oh, I can easily smash a bag of those. One, this is the new flavour, honeycomb Malteser.
Starting point is 00:20:32 One of these is 15 calories. One Malteser. One Malteser. How much is a bag? 15 calories. I don't know, they just scan again.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Why did you do one serving? Do the whole bag. No, that wasn't a serving. That was one. No one's eating one ball, Vaughn. One Maltese and you want to eat the whole 140 gram bag. I could have been friends with someone who opened a bag and ate one. Ate one of them.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And then wrapped it back up. Those people that seal a bag or a packet of something and put it back in the pantry for a week. What is wrong with you? So it's 700 calories for one of these bags. One bag. Yeah, that's a lot. I expected it to be a little bit more, but then in saying that, that's not, this isn't a huge bag.
Starting point is 00:21:11 This isn't as big as the bag you get at the movies, eh? Or is this the movie side of things? No, they've all made them smaller. Yeah, because I remember the bigger bags, weren't they a thousand calories to eat the whole thing? And I could eat those sometimes before the trailers had finished. Good lord. I know. So that would be the equivalent of a meal, right?
Starting point is 00:21:27 700 calories. Yep. That's like a day. That's a good hour on the cross trainer at the gym. Oh, don't bother, I mean. Oh, only if you're like mucking about. Get in, boy. Put it up to level 25.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Get in. 25? My legs literally don't go for that fast. I just chucked them there. I've already tried them, so I'm good. I'm afraid not. I can't believe you're eating Maltesers. A couple of minutes before seven.
Starting point is 00:21:52 How do you find the honeycomb? It's quite nice, eh? Kind of like a crunchy bar, kind of like a violet crumble. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like an easier To eat crunchy Now the There's debate
Starting point is 00:22:07 About the raspberry In these flavours Is the flavour In the chocolate Or the middle I think it's in the chocolate I don't like the I don't like raspberry flavoured
Starting point is 00:22:15 Things for the record But I'll eat one Okay I also can't believe You're not eating these Crunchy She's not gonna eat them No I'm not
Starting point is 00:22:22 They're not as good, I'm not. They're not as good, though, eh? I'm not a fan of the raspberry, but the honeycomb's really nice. Honeycomb you could smash a whole bag of. Piece of cake. These ones will probably get a little bit sickly a little bit quicker. Now, the people that sent us these, did you see the letter they wrote in there? There's a new flavour coming in a couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:22:43 What is it? What I didn't say. But I reckon it could be mint. Because they've got mint ones in Australia. Yeah, mint chocolate. Fans of the show that have been OG listeners for a long time will know that back in the day, I used to do anything for people to mule me over some white Maltesers from the UK,
Starting point is 00:23:00 but they stopped making them. I'd love if they started making those again. The only thing they make in the white and Malteser bracket is that hot drink. Oh, yeah, but that's not the same. No, that's not very nice. Yeah. Make you feel sick in your tummy and then you get all the farts.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Do you feel bad eating chocolate on your own? I can't believe this is a little bit. I can't believe you're not eating. That's like the worst kind of crime is when you open chocolate and your boyfriend or your partner's like, no, I don't feel like eating.
Starting point is 00:23:30 You're like, I will not be a fat. Yeah, you're telling me my boyfriend just looked me straight in the eye and told me he wasn't eating them. Be out on my own. No thanks,
Starting point is 00:23:36 I've already tried them. I don't need to. No, you will eat at least two. You're damn right you will eat. Eat one. I'm not eating one by myself. Or you're eating one by yourself.
Starting point is 00:23:46 This is unbelievable. This is true. If it was Friday or Thursday, I'm like, what about, does anybody, well, I've got to put these, I'm doing the calorie counting again
Starting point is 00:23:53 on MyFitnessPal. So now I've got, that's 30 bloody point, that's 30 calories gone. I'm not happy with you. I'm not happy with you. Does anybody in the producer's booth care to join me for a pre-seven Malteser?
Starting point is 00:24:04 Can we just point out, you always go on about, like you moan about my diets and you sit there talking about food calories on my fitness pal. You didn't even sniff it. You are such an hypocrite. I'm not a hypocrite. You are. Because I'll eat it, it just means I'll have to go a little bit harder on the cross train.
Starting point is 00:24:21 This is why I'm fat. This is why I'm fat. This is why, this is why is wild. Fat. This is wild. This is wild. This is wild. Fat. Fletchvorna Megan, the podcast,
Starting point is 00:24:30 ZM. Um, the name, Infinite. This person's name that I'm about to talk to, their name's Infinite. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Is that like a, is that like an athlete stage name? From what I can see, no. Really? It's I can see, no. Really? It's an actual name. Infinite. Infinite Tucker.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Just makes it sound like the food's never going to run out. You can't give someone out their first name if they've got a lame last name. It does sound like the food's never ending. It's a banquet. We're going to go to that place with bloody Infinite Tucker. It never runs out. It just keeps coming out. Oh, no. a banquet. We're going to go to that place with bloody Infinite Tucker. Yeah, it never runs out. It just keeps coming out. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:25:08 A banquet. Infinite Tucker's reached international headlines because of a Superman dive at the end of a hurdling race that actually got him the victory face planted. They smashed his face into the hard ground. But got a gold medal. But, yeah, the gold medal. So, do your feet not need to be on the ground in an athletics race? No, because you know how
Starting point is 00:25:28 when you see people running and they bob their head down because it's just like the first part of your body to cross the line. So even if you held your arm out and your little finger was over the line before, okay, wow. The next person. I had no idea. It's when your body breaches that line. Right. So he's running alongside
Starting point is 00:25:44 Robert. Yep. Standard line. Right. So he's running alongside Robert. Yep. Standard name. Yeah. And mind you, if Robert bet infinite, you'd be like, hmm, the name was a bit much. Like you just expect infinite to be the best at everything. Yeah. Robert running in infinite thinks I'm not going to win this.
Starting point is 00:25:59 So just like dives, just supermans it. I mean, you've already got the speed, haven't you? Yeah, I've never wanted to win anything bad enough to hurt myself. Yeah, no. My absolute peak of my short-lived rugby career was a runaway try and I did a dive and I winded myself on the ball. I've always wondered how that doesn't happen more than that. And I was like, never again.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I'm not hurting myself to win anything. If you die for a try and hurt yourself, you don't show it. No, you get up and walk it off. Oh, I did. I looked at mum, and I was like, mum, I can't breathe. Mum, I can't breathe. Mum, I'm dying. Mum, help me.
Starting point is 00:26:45 He's like relax. I'm like I can't relax. All your call points just went out the window. Yeah. This is the end. I've never been winded but Connor looks awful. It's horrible.
Starting point is 00:26:59 And you can't convince yourself that it's going to be over soon. You can't convince yourself. Just relax. It's just a panic thing that it's going to be over soon. You can't convince yourself. Just relax. It's just a panic thing. You're going to be fine. Just relax. You're like, no, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Because that voice is so scary. Yeah. And inside the calm voice is like, it's all right, mate. Just relax. I will not relax. I'm dying here. If I die, I take you with me His voice is terrifying
Starting point is 00:27:28 I will not Pass it On me You gotta give yourself a sore throat I can breathe again The little voice was right The little voice was right It all
Starting point is 00:27:41 Panicky Tripping On me And then you cry. I always got a good cry after I got winded. I can breathe again, mum. But I was risking
Starting point is 00:27:50 I wasn't going to be able to breathe again. It's like a good cry after a spew. You're like, why is this happening to me? That was the end of your rugby career,
Starting point is 00:28:00 was it? 100%. So dramatic, hey? So dramatic. I'm retired on a high. That's why I'm just not... A high? I'm not well the high of scoring the try. I think we won that game too.
Starting point is 00:28:11 How much of a runaway try was it? Surprisingly, like a runaway. Like a whole football field? Were you just like, oh my god, they're chasing me! That was the main reason I ran fast. I'm not fast unless I'm being chased. So I was running very fast.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And I still don't know because it was thought afterwards that my dive try was actually just a trip over. But in my mind, I feel like if I winded myself, I had to at least look cool with the dive. It wasn't a trip, although it was probably a trip. Right. What a great podcast so far. Wouldn't you agree, Fletch? Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And it's all thanks to Spark. Get one gig of bonus data with the Spark U25 pack. Now, back to the podcast. The Prime Minister obviously receives a lot of letters from all over the place. Probably some angry ones. Yep. Some ones with a bit of poo on them, I think. Maybe. I'm imagining there's some angry
Starting point is 00:29:08 old lunatic. I'd imagine there's a mail room that sorts out the crazy stuff. Imagine being the parliamentary beagle. What, the sniffer dog? Oh yeah, they'd have to have a sniffer dog. Proceed. Proceed.
Starting point is 00:29:24 No, no. Bin that one. Don't even look at it. Don't look at all. Proceed. Proceed. No, no. Bin that one. Don't even look at it. Don't look at it. Do yourself the favour. Don't look at it. No, you looked at it, didn't you? Well, I told you not to. I am the parliamentary mail beagle. Well, the parliamentary mail beagle let this one through. It was we don't see the original letter. It's
Starting point is 00:29:39 only the letter returned that we have a photograph of and it's returned with $5 as it seems an 11 year old called Victoria tried to bribe the Prime Minister into researching physics and dragons I didn't think about that is that what the $5 is for?
Starting point is 00:29:56 Yeah to bribe her to kind of fast track this yeah yeah that's for you to buy yourself something nice later on maybe a capi down there at the parliamentary cafe let's get a little fast track on this physics and dragons
Starting point is 00:30:09 so we don't know what the original letter said but the reply says dear Victoria thank you so much for getting in touch we're very interested to hear about your suggestions hear your suggestions on physics and dragons but unfortunately we're not currently doing any work in either of these areas I am therefore returning your bribe money
Starting point is 00:30:26 and I wish you all the best with your quest for telekinesis, telepathy and dragons. This kid. So this kid wants to be able to move things. That's telekinesis with their mind. Telepathy is your mind reading and the power of intuition in the brain,
Starting point is 00:30:42 reading other people's thoughts and also whilst riding a dragon by the sounds of things. Good imagination on this kid. 11-year-old imagination. I mean, I'd love all those things. The Prime Minister signs up with a PSL, still keep an eye out for those dragons. Do they wear suits?
Starting point is 00:30:56 That feels like a very targeted burn on someone who she's dealt with maybe that day in a suit. Oh, a dragon. Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah. But I've seen, I saw this last night being shared on websites all over the world,
Starting point is 00:31:10 news print organisations picking it up. Yeah. And running with it and people commenting. We've got a great prime minister. Yeah. And this isn't the only one. A lot of other people are saying that they've received letters back when the kids have written to them.
Starting point is 00:31:22 I mean, all this is going to cause us an absolute influx of kids. Oh, I know. Because their parents are going to be, write a silly letter to the Prime Minister. You'll get one back. You'll get one back. Or send her something. Friends of ours got a letter back. Their daughter designed a playground.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I'm not exactly sure. How old is she? Four. She was four at the time. And wanted the government to make this playground happen. Yeah. How old was she? Four. She was four at the time. And wanted the government to make this playground happen. Yeah. No, she designed it. Why was it on the playground for the local council?
Starting point is 00:31:51 What playground was this? What was in it? Actually, I think there was a dragon as well, but the dragon was a slide. You entered through the anus of the dragon, slid through the intestinal tract backwards and came out of the mouth of the dragon. Okay, right.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Yeah. Wow. Yeah. But the dragon was... Downwards, yes. Was there a ladder to the anus? Well, you could... No, I think it was like hill-based.
Starting point is 00:32:15 So it looked like the dragon was slithering down the hill and imagine you're just going down the hill and then all of a sudden... What just happened to me? Something went in the back and out the front. That would be alarming. It would certainly wake you up if you were daydreaming about something else. Like physics or delivery.
Starting point is 00:32:37 A warning to dragons. Don't go down a hill. Not to lie in a park. No. Wear pants. If you're going to lie down in a park. Or a suit. Wear that suit. Wear the suit. Hard to lie in a park. No. Wear pants. Yeah. If you're going to lie down in a park. Wear that suit. Wear that suit.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Wear the suit. Hard to get in. There is a Snapchat filter which everyone's using, everyone's having fun with. Oh, it's so good. It is fun. It can turn you into the opposite sex. Or you can make yourself a prettier girl.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Or a baby. The baby one's pretty great. I don't think I saw the baby one. It's not on my one. Yay for Snapchat bringing it back, eh? I feel over the weekend people were using Snapchat a lot more than they ever have lately. I went into Snapchat I still got a ton of unread messages in Snapchat.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I just was like, I'll just take the videos and then download them and then just put them up on Instagram. Yeah. But while it was a bit of fun, there's also been a few issues raised. So a guy in the UK, his name's Jake, but for this he changed his name to Jess and he put the female face filter on him and was like, haha, him and his mate were like, let's set up a Tinder account and people will think that we're a girl.
Starting point is 00:33:49 He received more than 1,650 swipes from dudes in Norwich. He then was like the most popular. Apparently he was the most popular girl in Derby. That's what he said. But he screenshot
Starting point is 00:34:04 a number of responses that he got from males, most of which I can't read out to you. One said, are you a piece of art because I want to nail you against the wall? Two, that's the lighter end. No, you hang a piece of art. You do. It doesn't make any sense. I'd like to 3M hook you on the wall.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Yeah. And then with an easy tab to pull off. Yeah, yeah. And roll, not pull. So I guess that's interesting because from a guy, he's like, whoa, this is crazy. Like the pickup lines. It's like, yeah, welcome to Tinder, mate. He had no idea how creepy guys could be.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Yeah, 100%. 1,650 swipes, 400 matches. It went crazy. And so he's using photos of him as a woman. Some people looked really good with their gender swap filters, eh? Yeah, my husband was way prettier than me. That's not fair. That's real.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And then some people just looked like their brother, didn't they, producer Caitlin? Yeah, that was a confunter. I was the exact copy of Taylor. He was even like, ooh, this is so weird. My boyfriend was weirded out by it too. Did you do Hello's the Girl? Yeah. He looked exactly like his sister.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Of all the things we did with the gender swap face thing on Snapchat, we were like, Sade refused to make out with me. I was like, we'll do a funny thing where it's like... Would it blur up your faces though when you actually... gender swap face thing on Snapchat when Sade refused to make out with me. I was like, we'll do a funny thing where it's like... Would it blur up your faces though
Starting point is 00:35:29 when you actually... Oh yeah, once you got into it. But I'm pretty sure you just start with the thing and then go inside. Yeah, right. So just like
Starting point is 00:35:36 normal life for you. What she didn't want to make out on camera. Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much just another day, another dollar. There was a headline that popped up yesterday. It just said, more worker yells at kids on playground.
Starting point is 00:35:55 And I was like, I know exactly. I know where this is. I've been there. You didn't even have to read the story. I was like, this, I've been waiting for this to happen. I saw the headline and I was like, this could be me. Because, you know, you're working somewhere and there are screaming kids. This could have actually been me because I've been at this mall. This is my mall that I frequent.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And I know the exact playground. And by crikey, those kids are loud. It's also everywhere's tiled in there, right? Like it's a tiled floor. Don't make up words. No, no, no. Which mall is it? Albany Mall.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Okay. On the north shore of Auckland. Right. It has a playground where the mall kind of opens up. Right. So you're walking down the narrow part and then it opens up to like a big area. Yep. A foyer is amazing.
Starting point is 00:36:39 A foyer outside a supermarket. And there's other multiple shops around the bulbous part of the playground. Right. Playground's in the middle. Bad place. Someone say bad place for a playground. I have been at a place. I'm not going to say where it was, but I've been at a certain one of those shops right
Starting point is 00:36:57 outside the playground on school holidays and those workers were at the end of their tether because you're sitting in there talking and literally all you can hear is screaming and yelling like from the kids. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Which, I mean, that's cool, but we're inside, so maybe inside voices would be great. I know that they're having fun, but... But they're also probably five or six. Screaming and yelling. Yeah. So I can understand, imagine if you had to work, and they don't have doors, you know, in a mall.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Like their shops are just open to it. All day at work. Yeah, that would be that much, wouldn't it? They have no escape from it. So this, to me, was a matter of time. Okay. Someone who works at the mall confronted the children and the families. Confronted?
Starting point is 00:37:42 Snapped. And started screaming and swearing at the adults saying that they needed to keep their voices down, they were being too noisy, she started losing it. This is a report from someone who was there. She was aggressive, our kids were frightened, they looked over at us and didn't know what to
Starting point is 00:37:58 do or how to react. Well, I bet they shut up, though, after that, didn't they? Was it simply sushi? They've got a kiosk, I'm just looking at the floor plan. Alright, okay. So it's right outside New World. There's a spec savers there. Oh, okay. Which is bad because when your sight goes
Starting point is 00:38:14 your hearing starts picking up a bit more. And mention where the woman worked. In that story. Travel money. But I'm saying, having been into one of these establishments, it's right by the playground. You don't blame them.
Starting point is 00:38:29 She's miles away from the playground. Is she? She's like one, two, three, four, five kiosks back. I must have been echoing down the hallway. It's so loud, Vaughn. I'm not even exaggerating. I love that you've dialed up a map of the mall on your laptop. It had to go past SCA travel, e-gifts, Mr. Minute.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Mind you, they're cutting the keys and that's noisy business. They probably... And then tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. Who else is in there? Shampoo and things. The Asb Bank is there as well. The bank is a place of a little bit more... I don't as well. Oh, yeah. The banks are a place that are a little bit more right. But I don't blame her.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Not at all. If that was every day at work and it was just constant, you would snap every now and again. And the thing is, I don't have children, okay? Well, yeah, because I have children. But I wouldn't let them, like I understand playing and stuff, but just constant screaming at that playground, not exaggerating. You'd be like, we're inside.
Starting point is 00:39:27 You're raising social outcasts if you let your kids scream. Right. If they're the only ones in a playground and you can't see anybody else and it's in the middle of a park, minimal screaming. But if you're inside and you're letting your kids scream, I'm going to shoot them this look. But also I'd be like, that's a panic alarm. Like, I can't, if you're screaming all the time, I'm not going to know when I need to come running. The boy who screamed wolf.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Yeah. So what is the etiquette with telling off someone else's kids, Vaughn? I just do it quietly. Yeah, me too. So you'll do it. I start with a look. Yep. And the look, like my look can stop my kids. Like if they catch my eye and I'm giving them the look, they'll be like, oh, I start with a look. Yep. And the look, like my look can stop my kids. Yep.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Like if they catch my eye and I'm giving them the look, they'll be like, oh, dad's got the look. Yeah, right. Buck up your ideas in public. Yep. Then from the look, it advances to just a lean in and a quiet word. Yep. And then next step is a telling off.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Right. I'll tell off other people's kids. I don't really like other people's kids. Love mine. Right, but the other ones are shit bags. Oh, yeah, awful. Well, this is what it's like when you don't really like other people's kids. Love mine. Right, but the other ones are shit bags. Oh, yeah, awful. Well, this is what it's like when you don't
Starting point is 00:40:27 have kids and like them. Just telling off everybody's kids. But yeah, that was the woman's mistake is she yelled. She should have just been like over
Starting point is 00:40:35 to the parents. You just want to keep that. You turned up those kids to keep it down. You know, I work in a mall and you
Starting point is 00:40:42 know who's here in the month of November and December? Santa. I've got your name. I've got your number. I took a photo of you before. I'm going to give it to him. You're not going to give a mall and you know who's here in the month of November and December? Santa. I've got your name. I've got your number. I took a photo of you before. I'm going to give it to him.
Starting point is 00:40:47 You're not going to give me your presents. That's brilliant. That's how that works. That's brilliant. Yeah. Oh, what's that? You're going to go cry to your mum? No point telling mum.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I wouldn't tell her. I've got the more direct line to Santa. That's terrifying. In fact, I've never mentioned this to anybody. Oh my God. I would never say a word in public again if you said that. Well, I would like to know off the back of this person yelling at the kids at the playground
Starting point is 00:41:11 when you've told off someone else's kids. Okay, maybe you've used Vaughan Santaline or maybe you've just gone outright. Because I've given the look on the plane to annoying kids if they're tapping the back of your seat. I told off these two boys at a playground for playing too rough with my niece. But again, I went up to them and I did it really quietly under my breath. And I was like, don't go tell your mum.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And then if they do, you can be like, oh, they're lying. But also, they were being very aggressive and the parents are just standing there. I'm like, well, I'm not going to let my niece get hurt. No. Yeah. Okay. They were throwing bark. You get right up in their face
Starting point is 00:41:45 And you're like Do you want me to throw some bark In your face No Then stop throwing bark Often it's the quieter voice That's very scary That's very intimidating
Starting point is 00:41:55 Yeah that's just Brilliant Alright so 0800 dials an M You can text 9696 as well When have you told off Someone else's kids Tournament when you When you've taken it well whenever you've told off someone else's kids. Talking about when you've taken it upon yourself to tell off
Starting point is 00:42:08 some other people's children. A woman in a mall yelled at kids who were apparently too old to be on the junior playground. Yeah, and making a right ruckus. Making a right bloody kerfuffle. I'm on her side. So when you've had to tell off other people's kids, someone said, recently my partner and I went to the zoo for a cute little date
Starting point is 00:42:23 and some kids were tapping on the glass of the poor lizards. And my partner, Linton, very quietly said to the children, how would you like it if I came to your house when you were trying to sleep instead of banging on your windows? Oh, that's terrifying.
Starting point is 00:42:36 That's going to give them nightmares. Safe to say they stopped and they quickly ushered us away before we could be pointed out as the people. Somebody said, in a mall I heard some kids swearing. They would have been early teens.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I stopped them and I said, you think swearing's cool? I wish I'd pre-planned my telling off as they kind of like laughed and walked away calling me more of the names that I'd previously heard them saying. Yeah. We'll take some calls. Katie, when did you have to tell off someone else's kids? Oh, hi.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Yeah, so I was at Auckland Museum, and you know how out front there's a few memorials? Yes. War memorials, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And one of them's sort of like a water feature, sort of this weird trapezium-type shape, and you could technically climb on it if you wanted to,
Starting point is 00:43:25 and that's what these kids were doing. There was a few different kids climbing on it, but I sort of targeted one in particular who I'd been having an eye on. Oh, so you'd been watching them. I'd been watching them from afar, and I was like, mm-mm, mm-mm. Could you locate any parental figures or caregivers? Yes, yes. So mum, and I'm guessing it was grandma, were down at the front just watching, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:47 because they had a good old time. And so I said, no, I just, I can't. So I went down and I said, yeah, but it's not really for climbing on though, is it? And do you know what he did? He came down and he confronted me and he stood in front of me. It was about eight or nine. And he said, yes, it is. And I said, excuse me, young man, lest we forget, not lest we climb on.
Starting point is 00:44:19 And mum and grandma just stood there. They were right next to me and I was waiting for a day. I was waiting for the backlash. I was like, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready. And it didn't come. And I was like, yeah, that's right. That's right. Because they knew they were in the wrong.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Lest we forget. Oh, my God. Brilliant. Katie, thanks for your call. Ricardo, you have to tell other people's kids all the time. We've lost Ricardo. He's gone. He works in a restaurant.
Starting point is 00:44:49 So it's a daily occurrence. Lots of people telling off other kids for touching. We were at Te Papa and kids were touching the exhibits and the Anzac display. And I said, can you not read? You're not allowed to touch. And it was at that stage I thought, maybe they are a bit young to read.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Yeah, little Timmy's like, no, I can't read it. I'm only four years old. I can't read and I've weed in my pants. Somebody said that they take great pride in telling off kids for running up escalators backwards. They've picked a couple up and turned them around and said it goes this way. What do you care?
Starting point is 00:45:27 Picking up. See, I don't know. I'm not picking up another kid. No, don't touch them. I wouldn't care if they're acting up. It's when they're loud that I'd say something. What if, like this person, you're at the supermarket and a kid runs into you in the back of the legs with a trolley?
Starting point is 00:45:40 No, didn't that happen? There was a news story. No, it was a Kmart and some old lady pushed a trolley into a kid. Like, effed up the kid. Oh, no. It was in the news, like, the other week. She was only doing back to them what they did to her, though. Eye for an eye.
Starting point is 00:45:58 I know. Fletch Vaughan and Megan's Food Fight. The Chippies Edition. Well, after nearly two weeks of voting. And how many initial chips? Twenty. Twenty-eight. Twenty-four. Twenty-five.
Starting point is 00:46:17 I didn't count them, remember? Anya doesn't even know. Useless. So after heaps of time and heaps of voting from you guys, we have a victoire for the Food Fight Chippies edition. 20,000 votes just for the final. Is this how we can get people to vote in a general election? Have them electing chippies.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Because I feel like people care more about this. It'll get them out, but I don't know if those people, I don't know if a bag of chips is going to do a great job representing us at the UN or anything. No, but if they... Maybe a bag of chips. I don't know if a bag of chips is going to do a great job representing us at the UN or anything. No, but if they gave me a bag of chips to vote, I would be there. Oh, you're saying a little takeaway. Sure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Well, the results are in. It's a 60-40 split between Pringles, Sour Cream and Onion, and Bluebird Salt and Vinegar. And the winner is... Bluebird Salt and Vinegar. Yes. S&B Classic. S&B Classic. S&B Classic. I thought they'd be in the final.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I thought it might have been up against more of a fancy chip. The Pringles surprised me being in the final, but they've taken it out. They've taken it out. You're there. So it's the Bluebird Salt and Vinegar. So on Thursday, you could be winning a year's supply of Bluebird Salt and Vinegar. Yep. And $ Thursday, you could be winning a year's supply of Bluebird salt and vinegar. Yep. And $1,000 if you can drop a chip in a dip
Starting point is 00:47:29 from six metres up. So we've got one of those scissor lifts you always see like construction people on, like changing light bulbs at the mall or something. Yeah. One of those things. Yep. Goes up six metres. And it goes beep, beep, beep. It always just seems so excessive for that to change a light bulb but at the same time, how else are you going to get up there?
Starting point is 00:47:46 Like a really, really tall ladder. Or big old stilts. Yeah. I don't know. They seem even dangerous. More dangerous. We're going to do this in Christchurch at the Palms. So we've got a little bit of an outside area there,
Starting point is 00:47:57 which means we can get the scissor lift up. You can come down. You can come up on the scissor lift and have a go, dropping the chip into a small bowl of dip. Now, it doesn't matter where in the country you are, you can call us up during the morning and one of us will drop for you. Yes, you can nominate one of us. You've just got to get it into a, what would you call this, just a normal...
Starting point is 00:48:15 Standard bowl. A standard bowl. If we use that bowl, that's a standard bowl. Of dip. Now, I don't know if we need a bigger bowl or not. We've got a lot of questions. Yes. And it falls under lot of questions. Yes. And it falls under the physics umbrella.
Starting point is 00:48:27 It does. So we have Tristan O'Hanlon, who is a lecturer in undergraduate physics at the University of Auckland. Good morning. Good morning. Thank you for having me. Thank you for taking the time out of your busy
Starting point is 00:48:37 and serious schedule to do something so trivial and stupid. Aren't you guys building a satellite that's going to be launched into space soon? Yes, that's right. Yeah. So when producer Caitlin called you and said, hey, we're going to drop a chip in a dip.
Starting point is 00:48:48 What's the physics on that? Were you like, what the hell? No, this is a neat physics problem. Yes. This is fun. This is a fun break away from the serious stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:57 That's right. And for any young scientists out there in school, I think this is a great science fair project as well. Really? Good. Okay. See, it's not just about chippies.
Starting point is 00:49:06 We've worked out that it'll be the bluebird chip. It'll be the salt and vinegar. So it's quite light. It'll be six metres. I've Googled the wind on Thursday morning in Christchurch. It's a fine day, a little bit of cloud, and we're looking at winds of anywhere between 13 and 16 kilometres an hour. Now, we'll be a little sheltered because we're at the Palms
Starting point is 00:49:24 and there's a lot of buildings around. Yeah. Okay, shelter is good. Shelter is good. So I should mention first of all that under ideal circumstances, this problem is predictable just using the laws of physics.
Starting point is 00:49:34 So if we could measure the properties of the air, the chip, the wind, and we had a device that could drop it exactly how we wanted to each time, then we could with good accuracy calculate where it should land.
Starting point is 00:49:45 The problem is that you guys who are dropping it are human. Okay. So I'm assuming you're going to drop it with your fingers? Yes. So there's a really good chance initially that when you drop it, you'll give it a slight kick to the side or you'll cause it to rotate a bit. And over six metres dropping, that could cause a lot of deviation with those initial conditions.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Okay. Yep. Oh, my God. So if a listener was to drop it... For accuracy, you'd go quick release and just like... That would be ideal, yes. Just gently take your fingers away from the chip and try not to maneuver it. I'd probably do it quicker. Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 00:50:19 And in terms of... In terms of the way the chip will fall, you've got a constant battle with air resistance or drag. So ideally you want it to fall as straight as possible, as fast as possible, because any crosswind will cause it to deviate while it's falling. So would a throw down be better than a drop? No, I think a drop is what you probably want.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Can't get either. There's a bit too much risk. Right. So what about the ripple of the chip? Because the other contender, the Pringle, flat chip but with a predictable shape. Whereas these are all very different, aren't they, about the ripple of the chip? Because the other contender, the Pringle, flat chip but with a predictable shape. Whereas these are all very different, aren't they, with the ripple? And there's the ripple, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:51 They are. So that's really hard to say. But I have some recommendations, though, about what you might want to look for if you are going to drop this thing. Just after my own experimenting on the weekend because I had a lot of fun with this. You experimented outside in the wind? Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:51:06 This is so funny. You're more prepared than we are. So, okay, what you want, I think, is you want a larger chip, so a larger mass. You also want it to have or choose one that has a nice symmetrical curve, so, you know, a bit like the Pringles chip profile. Okay. And you want to drop it so that the bottom of the curve is facing down towards the ground.
Starting point is 00:51:24 So what that does is you minimise the profile area against the wind when it's dropping. So that reduces drag. It should fall a little bit faster than, say, a flat chip. Yeah. And that should also help keep it in a stable orientation as well.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Because that's a symmetry, so it's going around the same size difference. Correct. So that would be my recommendation. So convex down. Oh, very good. I win! Very good. The downside though is that with that curved shape is that you're more susceptible to crosswinds.
Starting point is 00:51:57 So if there is any wind on the side, you've got an area which could face any crosswinds and that could be bad. So you want to make sure that any wind dies down before you decide to drop it. So there are a lot of factors at play here. And honestly, over six metres, I don't give it much hope. If it does go in, it's going to be more a bit of luck. A bit of luck, yeah. But you can help yourself by doing what you've said. I think so, yes.
Starting point is 00:52:22 So in your test, how many did you get in the bowl? Okay, so under ideal conditions, over three metres. So it's less than you. doing what you've said i think so yes okay so in your test how many did you get in the bowl okay okay so uh under ideal conditions over three meters so it's less than you um so with this ship i got a 60 accuracy and a bowl the size that you've got in the studio here hey that's very good that's three meters okay so that's an under ideal conditions now 4.2 meters dropping it out my window on sunday it was it was pretty it was pretty awful weather on Sunday in Auckland. Yeah. But I waited until the wind died down. I got a 4% accuracy.
Starting point is 00:52:49 So over six metres, you know, and the wind in Christchurch, it might not be as, it's not going to be as powerful as it was in Auckland, but I'd put it
Starting point is 00:52:58 at less than 1%. Oh no. That's good though. So maybe we might need a backup so that everyone... It's still a great problem. Yeah, everyone that drops a chip goes in the drawer if nobody gets it in. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Or we get a bigger bowl. We get a bigger bowl, yeah. Or we get a bigger bowl. Right. Should we try this then? But then there's a lot of dip. With what we've learned. Yeah, we should.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Well, we've got... I know we've got the atrium in the building here. Yeah. So you can see right down from like six floors. Yeah. You could go up a couple of floors. That's no window, is it, inside? No, but we're testing the height.
Starting point is 00:53:30 It's a controlled experiment. Under that height. We haven't done from six metres before. I am loving Science's cameo on the show this week. Alright, okay, well why don't you give us a call on your phone, Vaughan, and we'll come back next.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Somebody wants to know what the terminal velocity of the chip would be. I'd have to calculate that. Okay. That's something I don't have prepared. This is a sit-down calculation. And it depends on the chip. I need to know the dimensions. Every chip would be different.
Starting point is 00:53:57 How great is science, eh? It's pretty great. It's great. Okay, all right, we're going to come back next, and we're going to test the chip dip from a height of about, what, that second floor or first floor? Well, we've got a tape measure out there so we can measure how far up we need to be
Starting point is 00:54:11 for six metres. Brilliant. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan's Food Fight, the Chippies edition. Well, the salt and vinegar chip has won our food fight. It is New Zealand's number one chip. We had 20,000 votes in the last 24 hours. 60% of those were for the salt and vinegar bluebird chop.
Starting point is 00:54:32 So on Thursday, to celebrate, and we do something every time. Remember we gave away $1,000 of burgers at lunchtime when the cheesy bee won? Yeah, we gave away hot chips, heaps of hot chips. We're going to give away $1,000 cash on Thursday morning. Now, if you're in Christchurch, you can come to the Palms and from six metres, drop a chip into a small bowl of dip. Or from anywhere in the country, you can call us on Thursday morning and one of us will drop the chip for you.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Now, everyone that gets it in the dip goes in the drawer, but it might not be that easy. So, to understand the physics of the situation, we're joined in studio by Tristan O'Hanlon. He is a lecturer in undergraduate physics at the University of Auckland. Hi, Tristan. And we are making science fun this morning, aren't we? So Tristan just took us through the best way to drop the chip from six metres
Starting point is 00:55:21 so that it will land in the dip. So you'd be holding it between your fingers with the curve down and just quickly let it go. Correct, yes. That would be the idea. Now, joining us from the atrium in the lobby here at our work building, Vaughan. Vaughan, good morning. Come in. Yeah, good morning.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Good morning. Okay, and I believe Producer Caitlin is, you're on level two, Vaughan? Yes, well, no, this is technically level one. Ground floor, level one. Right, okay. Which is weirdly exactly six metres. Wow. Okay. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:55:51 With the tape measure. Okay. I can see Mike Hosking broadcasting serious stuff and we're doing serious science. Brilliant. We're going to hear about this. Producer Caitlin is down on the ground level with the bowl of dip. Yes, good morning, I am.
Starting point is 00:56:05 I'm making sure no one tries to eat this dip this morning. Have you made sure that the dip is directly under vorn? It's, like, if I, yeah, it's directly under vorn. Yeah, I've lined it up from up here too as well. It looks pretty much directly in line. I've selected a chip. I've poured the chippies all over the floor. I've scattered them.
Starting point is 00:56:22 I've picked my favourite. Okay. And it is, like Tristan said, it's pretty symmetrical. Okay, good. It's a decent size. It's got a bend in it and I'm going to drop that convex down. Okay, alright.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Well, let's go when you're ready. Okay, three, two, one, release. Oh, no. Oh, no, no. It flipped around. You'll hear the crowd airing their disappointment. It began flipping, Tristan. How do I counter that? That's one of the dangers.
Starting point is 00:56:51 You've got to try and release it as quickly as possible so that it remains in profile as it speeds up. Okay. Hold on. Quick release. Three, two, one, release. You know you were right about the quick release, Tristan, because that one didn't spin.
Starting point is 00:57:04 However, it went a little wayward that one didn't spin. However, it did catch a little and went a little wayward. It probably wasn't symmetrical. What if you tried one that's a bit smaller and doesn't have as much of a curve? Okay, you know what? I've picked one up that fits that profile, Megan. Can I ask how far away?
Starting point is 00:57:21 Right beside it! Right beside it! Literally under an inch. So the first one was two feet away. The first one landed two feet away, and that second one was like centimeters. Interesting that Caitlin there has mixed imperial and metric measures. Sorry, sister, sorry.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Okay, should we try another one that size? Yes, I've got another small one, slightly less of a curve. Quick release. Again, very, very close. Very, very close. Try another big one like you started with. I'm just going to scatter these chips around a bit more. Sorry to the cleaners.
Starting point is 00:57:55 I've never had so much fun at work. Who knew this could be so riveting? Okay, three, two, one, release. Oh, I touched the bone. Oh, I touched the bone. Oh, very good. Wait, how many attempts have you had so far born four okay yeah so people um people are coming out from the newsroom the herald just wonder what he's going on this will be premium content by midday put this behind a paywall baby come on okay here we go. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Too heavy on the left side. Too heavy on the left side. Now, I know we've only done like five or six chips here, but do you think that we need a bigger bowl or should we keep it this way? Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Oh, my God. Okay, we've got an issue. We've got an issue. It bounced off the ground into the bowl. Oh, I don't know. Do we count that? No.
Starting point is 00:58:44 It bounced off the ground and slipped over and down into the bowl. No, it needs to hit fingers to bowl. It can't go fingers floor bowl. So that would be disqualified. Yeah. Okay. Oh, no. That one looked like it was in the last minute and entered a tailspin.
Starting point is 00:59:02 This is really exciting. Is everybody having fun at home? Okay, well, this is all great. Hang on, hang on, hang on. I'm yelling and everybody's looking. I'm hiding in the corner now. Was that a tip? Was that tip number seven?
Starting point is 00:59:20 Straight in, straight in. No floor touch. Literally floated down straight in. Yeah, it was a small one it had a slight bend to it, it was almost perfectly circular it was good so you're saying we need small chips
Starting point is 00:59:34 with not much of a... did that surprise you Tristan? yeah somewhat, but also with a little bit of wind and fluctuations I suspect that might be a little less stable on the day. Huh. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Well, lots to take into account. But hey, that's what the evidence says in this case. So, you know, everyone's got to take that too. Okay. Well, it's all happening Thursday morning. Yeah. And you can register too to take part if you want one of us to drop the chip. Vaughan's having practice now.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I'm not cleaning up this mess. Who cleans up mess in the science experiments? What's the rule at uni? What do you have to clean up after yourself? Okay, Tristan's coming out to clean that up.
Starting point is 01:00:12 And our awesome lead technicians. They're really good. All right, fact of the day is next. Thank you, Tristan. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Today's fact of the day is from a website so not tested by this company that I had to go on my phone hotspot to re-access it from my research last evening.
Starting point is 01:00:42 It's weird what they blocked. Like I went to 9gag before and it was like, nah. I was like, sometimes. Not all the times, but there's some content. But then sure, let us on through. No worse than what some racist relative of yours down the line puts on Facebook every other day. Sure, yeah. But this one is about the mother of, what is it?
Starting point is 01:01:01 Necessity is the mother of invention. Yes. Do you know the Russian version of that saying is poor people are crafty? Oh, I like that. This one better. Yeah. Yeah. Necessity is the mother of all invention.
Starting point is 01:01:12 And the Russians are like, poor people are crafty. They can make things. So today's fact of the day is about the invention of the webcam. Okay. In 1991, some people at Cambridge University studying computers were sick of getting to the coffee room to discover that all the coffee in the coffee pot was gone. Yep. Because then they would have to go back past their computer lab
Starting point is 01:01:39 to get the supplies to come back to make themselves a fresh pot of coffee. Fair call. So the webcam was invented so they could check before they went. There was coffee. Wow. And then fast track down the line and Megan and Mr. Toyboy used it to keep in touch when they were in a long distance relationship. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:01:57 And watch movies over FaceTime. And Fletch, for some reason, has a post-it note over the one on his laptop. Because they're watching you, Vaughn. Mark Zuckerberg's got one. Right. Always tape up your laptop camera. A little dot over it. And you wear a tinfoil hat and the earth is flat.
Starting point is 01:02:13 100%. Completely provable. So the initial camera was a 129 by 129 pixel image, black and white, and literally was a close-up of the coffee jug. Wow. So they could see how far down it had gone rather than getting there.
Starting point is 01:02:28 And they basically invented the world's first webcam to keep an eye on the coffee pot. And now, wow. As you mentioned before, all sorts of nefarious purposes. So today's fact of the day
Starting point is 01:02:40 is the webcam was invented to keep an eye on the coffee levels. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Well, Tip Top's been sold. I guess outside the factory now, there'll be a big one of those real estate signs.
Starting point is 01:03:07 It says like sold. And they'll take a picture and put it on their Facebook. Like some billionaire Europeans will be in front of it being like, oh my God, our first house. Did this all by ourselves. Definitely didn't inherit some money from grandma. It's not impossible. Live your dreams.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Bank owns me now. What's up? You know, all those classics that you do outside when you buy a house. I'm just laughing because I'm jealous. Well, it's been purchased by Fronieri. Now, what do we know about Fronieri? Not Fronieri much, apparently. I've just Googled what other ice creams they made
Starting point is 01:03:42 because I was hoping they made those Viennas. No one buys Viennas. You like those do you? That's what your nana gets. It's a posh night at the Smiths house and there's a Vienna. How about a slice of Vienna? Do you not like Vienna? No it's just like. It's just nothing.
Starting point is 01:03:54 It's just vanilla with a little chocolate on it. And the. No. No. They're getting all fat and it's just ice cream with a slice. Oh no you can't go wrong with a little Vienna. For Neri it's just ice cream. Oh, no, you can't go wrong with a little Vienna. Froneri. Everything's just ice cream.
Starting point is 01:04:09 It's all what you put on it and all that. What I've read is Froneri is a Nestle joint venture. So it's the second largest manufacturer of ice cream in Europe. The third largest worldwide. They produce Cadbury, Oreo, Kit Kat, Movenpick,oblerone, Smarties, Magnum and Milo ice creams. Great chat. I've just remembered it's Viennetta, not Vienna. Vienna's the city.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Viennetta is the foley ice cream. Yeah, yeah. Yum. Now I've Googled and I've seen one. I want a Viennetta. Where do you get Magnums in? Dairies. No, but are they in the streets ice cream container?
Starting point is 01:04:44 Because you know you go into a dairy, there are two ice cream freezers, right? There's the tip-top freezer and there's the streets freezer. A lot of people will not know what you're talking about. The politics of ice creams. There's two different ice cream companies. No, because I always like one freezer better than the other.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Yeah, but you know that, but a lot of people probably don't know if there's two freezers that have been divided into companies. Different companies, yeah. Because they'll provide them the freezer. Yep. And try to get a better spot in the dairy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Or the supermarket or whatever. But yeah, what is in what freezer kind of depends on who's backing them, who's their head company. Well, I just hope I don't lose any of my fave ice creams in this. No, didn't they The company said They weren't looking To change
Starting point is 01:05:27 They think it's like Iconic and they just Kind of want to Take it over They always say that Yeah but if Game of Thrones Season 8
Starting point is 01:05:33 Has taught us anything Megan You can't believe Anybody when they Promise something Yeah You're not wrong They are gonna
Starting point is 01:05:39 Lie to you Or forget that They said that Three episodes ago And go ahead And ruin an entire Story arc An entire Blessed lie to you or forget that they said that three episodes ago and go ahead and ruin an entire story arc. An entire blessed
Starting point is 01:05:48 fantasy world that somebody spent 20 years creating. Or by cancelling an ice cream. Yeah. What else have they got up in their sleeves? The funeraries,
Starting point is 01:06:01 the Mervin pickies. They do an Oreo. I mean, this doesn't look like a bad thing to me if we get more of this. They do a Toblerone chocolate. Yeah. Ice cream. We're just going to get more delicious ice creams out of this.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Is that what's good? They do one called Bum Bum. They do. They do an ice cream. It's called Bum Bum. And it says... Use your microphone, please. Oh, here, I hear bum bum.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Look at it. It's real cute. Mit kogen und wummens steil. Those Germans are into some weird stuff, eh? Bum bum must translate to something. Bum bum ice cream, wee wee shower wash, it's all... This one has bum bum for two. Why does it...
Starting point is 01:06:41 They're like little circling cakes. They're having a laugh. They're like super mini Eskimo pies. Yeah, but was there something on the inside? Just ice cream. Just plain ice cream. Would try. Would try a bum bum.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Would try A+. Would try a bum bum. The thing is, next to it, there's the most phallic-looking ice cream you'll ever see in the world called Torpedo on there. They really need to separate the bum bums and the torpedoes a little bit when displaying them all on there. Yeah. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
Starting point is 01:07:12 There is a big change coming to foodstuff-owned supermarkets, so that is Pack and Save New World and Foursquare Brands. Okay. They are going to allow you to bring your own container. So this needs to be at areas where they can serve you. Like the deli. Like the deli and, well, that's it really, isn't it? Overpriced salads, that's the deli, isn't it? Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:37 That's the danger because you get one of those little tubs of whatever tickles your fancy in there, your beetroot and hummus or your, not hummus, feta, or your egg and celery. Even the small containers are deceptively expensive. Oh, yeah. You take your own sort of large Tupperware situation and you're like, fill it up, barrel, and she does,
Starting point is 01:07:58 and then you've got to remortgage your house at checkout. And you can't just leave it on the shelf or in a chiller somewhere. Yeah. You've got to buy it because it's your container. But that's a great idea. So they need to be able to subtract the cost of the container. So they need to be able to put the container on and go,
Starting point is 01:08:13 is it tear? Press the tear button and make it go from zero. Yeah, you press just zero. Scales to zero and go from there. Because otherwise, yeah, they're not going to be able to take into account the weight of the container. Also, food safety and hygiene has always been a bit of an ish. So they need to know that everything's hygienic,
Starting point is 01:08:32 so they can't be put at fault for taking the food away, which is, I don't know how they've counteracted that. So they're worried that you're bringing in this manky plastic container or a manky glass container. He's not washed it properly. You haven't washed it. You get sick. It's not on them.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Yeah. So what are they going to make you sign a disclaimer? No. Or they're just going to be like, well, you know what? You took it away in a container. Yeah, it was your own container. That could be on you.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Maybe they had to double check that they could actually say that now. But yeah, so those certain markets. The sticker should say that. The sticker. You're taking this away. And that's the other thing. They'll need to stick one of those stickers on your container. And those are hard to get off. But yeah, so those supermarkets... The sticker should say that. The sticker. You're taking this away. They'll need to stick one of those stickers on your container.
Starting point is 01:09:08 And those are hard to get off. Oh, yeah, that's true. You might get a ripped... Nothing worse than a container than a ripped sticker. Yeah. It's only half off. Yeah, that's a bit annoying. But still, we're saving the planet. Less plastic bags and stuff.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Yeah, you could use glass. It'll come off glass easily enough. Says you. Says you. Says you. We've all lost many containers of that. Yeah, that's true. So they're going to start doing this in June. They're going to start accepting BYO containers,
Starting point is 01:09:32 but they have said, pack and save specifically, there is a couple of guidelines. Check your containers are leak-proof and clean and dry them, please. Hand your containers to staff at the counter who will weigh the container before they add the food.
Starting point is 01:09:46 And then they'll label and seal your container with a barcode for scanning. So, yeah, they are going to stick a sticker on it. It's a good idea because how many, you know, you get a lot of those plastic containers. You see the huge stack that they must go through of those containers. And then even if you're just getting ham, it still goes in a little plastic bag. So it's going to get rid of all of that. Nice. Yeah. So food stuff. So that's Pack to get rid of all of that. Nice.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Yeah. So food stuff. So that's Pack and Save, New World. And some form squares. And I'm sure the other countdowns and all that will follow. So like everyone has with the plastic and stuff. For sure. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan.
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