ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - October 10 2018

Episode Date: October 9, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to the Fletch, Vaughan and Megan podcast. Thanks to Spark. Get more of what you love on the $29 prepaid rollover pack. And now, on with the show. ZDM. ZDM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Hello, good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Megan.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Good morning. Good morning. How long ago was it that people started paying out airfares for those Virgin Galactic flights? Because they were like $250,000, weren't they? A while ago. And finally... Because they had a couple of fiery mishaps, didn't they?
Starting point is 00:00:32 With you, they had one, didn't they? Yeah. Really blew itself to pieces. So they've obviously worked that out. I mean, it's fine to pay for that if you definitely know you're going to get there, but you're taking off in that rocket and you'd be like, don't blow up.
Starting point is 00:00:45 It's not the old lie that can think of Nan. You go on top of a 747, don't you? Or a massive plane. It's a big plane, yeah. And it goes as fast as it can. And then the rocket on top is like, unbuckle, hoof, and it hoofs from there. But then it's capable of landing by itself. So are they going to land on Mars or just go around it?
Starting point is 00:01:09 I mean, the moon. It's the moon, eh? I don't know. No. No. They're literally just going high enough to class themselves as going into space. And then be like, we're in space, we're outside of Earth's atmosphere,
Starting point is 00:01:27 and then back in. I love in your mind it was a weekend trip to Mars. That's so boring. Takes nine months to get to Mars and like three days to get to the moon. And that's at full noise. I'm real disappointed. It's a lot of money just to go to the baby steps
Starting point is 00:01:43 out of space and yeah Baby steps Yeah okay Real disappointed Well Megan's upset Hope nobody spent $250,000 after talking to Megan about what was entitled in the first trip to space Lame Alright you lot listen up it's story time
Starting point is 00:02:03 Three news headlines for three stories I've found online All right, you lot, listen up. It's story time. Three news headlines for three stories I've found online from news sites around the world. Quirky, unusual, weird news stories. Vaughan and Megan, as always, you pick one of the following three headlines and we'll delve into that story. Headline one. Roger that.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Headline one, policeman does two jobs at once. Headline two, tough teacher. And headline three, teen can only count to eight. Teen can only count to eight? Yep. How many fingers, how did he lose two fingers? Good from you, Smithy. Why do you always guess that?
Starting point is 00:02:39 Good from you. Detective. I mean, he should be able to count higher now that he's a teen. Yeah, but I mean, that could ruin that. But he's obviously particularly stupid because he's lost his fingers in an explosion. Yeah. Fireworks explosion? No, maybe a homemade bomb.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Homemade device? Did you read that story somewhere? Nope. I'm just familiar with the mind of stupid teenage boys. Oh, yeah. Did you even... Well, I mean, I know the answer to this. I don't want to go into the details, but yes.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Because I've made homemade fireworks with you. What? What? Homemade fireworks? Well, we changed. Oh, my God. We repackaged some fireworks once. What is it with about the male mind?
Starting point is 00:03:22 I know, it's dumb. You're just like, I really want to blow myself up. But that explosion shook the neighbourhood. It was Grande. It was so... It was Ariana Grande explosion. It was before Ariana Grande was a thing. You repackaged a firework and then...
Starting point is 00:03:35 I would not recommend people do it. I'm the supervision of a professional. Who was the professional? Our Brett, our fireworks friend. Brett. Big Brett Banger, they call him. Yeah, yeah. He imports a big container every Guy Fawkes.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Loves it. Loves it. Great guy. He's got a license. How are you two not dead? Like, honestly. It's a good question. He's only got four toes.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah. But we're responsible now. That was, like, before Vaughn had kids. Very, very silly. I didn't have a cat. That's the sort of thing that I can say to them, don't do that because I did that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:04 But then they'll be like, but you're fine. And I'll be like, I know, but please don't because I worry about you. Far more than I worried about myself. I guess we can rule out that story. So do you want one or two? What was two? Bad teacher. Tough teacher.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Tough teacher. What was one? Policeman does two jobs at once. I want one. What do you want? Yeah, I could go one. Okay, we go to Florida now. As always. Yes, we're
Starting point is 00:04:33 the Bonifay Police Department. That's located in the Florida Panhandle. Why do they call it that? Does it look like a panhandle on the map? Florida itself looks like a panhandle, doesn't it? It looks like a panhandle. He is a policeman. Well, not anymore because he's been arrested because not only was he working as a policeman but he was also selling drugs opi opioids out of the uh marked squad car while in
Starting point is 00:04:58 uniform oh you think that was a setup eh yeah but Yeah. But it wasn't. Like, is this a joke? You want to buy drugs? Are you a cop? Yes, but do you want to buy drugs? But I guess that's the ultimate cover. True. But, yeah. What kind of drugs was he selling?
Starting point is 00:05:19 Opioids. Oh, like prescription medication. Yeah, yeah, that kind of stuff. Real problem. So I don't know if he was like shaking down drug dealers and then reselling their drugs. I mean, maybe. It would be a great way to fund the police force.
Starting point is 00:05:32 They've never got enough money. Well, exactly. Some of them don't. They were selling the confiscated drugs. Yeah. Apparently he also uses personal cell phone for sales. So he's been charged with selling a controlled substance and unlawful use of a two-way communications device.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And he's in jail. Oh, ta-ta. And they like policemen in jail, don't they? They're big fans. Very accommodating. So I can't imagine his life is great at the moment after his life choices. The Florida panhandle's not the actual shaft of Florida. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:04 It's the bit up the top. But it's not a handle. But if you look at Florida as a pan, it would be a handle. But that's a fat handle. It's not America's panhandle. It's Florida's panhandle. And a skinny pan. So the top is the handle.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah, so the skinny bit that pokes out the peninsula. That's the pan. That's the pan in this situation. Like a big, wide pan. Yeah, and then it gets to the top's the pan. That's the pan in this situation. Like a big wide pan. Yeah, and then it gets to the top and then the bit. Well, it looks like a gun. You'd imagine, but they couldn't call it the gun handle. I'm surprised they didn't.
Starting point is 00:06:33 The gun grip. Well, it was named before guns were super. True. Right. I actually have some bad news for men with smaller than average penises. Because a study has collected data from 815 men, this is at a sexual health clinic over a few years, and they have found that men with smaller penises
Starting point is 00:06:54 tend to be less fertile. So in that sense, That's not great news. Bigger is actually better. Which I guess would kind of, if we're going to, we're going to, we're going to delve into like, you know how the opposite sex or, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:10 whatever sex you're attracted to is like you're attracted to certain things that suggest someone's more fertile. Like when guys, like you can smell women's pheromones and stuff. During ovulation and stuff. I mean, we're primal beasts. We're only a step above monkeys and on par.
Starting point is 00:07:34 With dolphins. Yeah. They're as good as us. Easy. And yeah, they all function on a primal nature. The idea is to reproduce, right? And enjoy yourself doing it. We're one of the few that can enjoy themselves doing it.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Us, bonobo monkeys, dolphins, and question mark pigs. Because we've all seen a horny pig at a farm. Whoa, they have half an hour orgasms. Like, if you're not enjoying it, you wouldn't waste your time on half an hour, would you? Maybe they can't help it. They're like, oh God, here we go
Starting point is 00:08:04 again. And it started Like have a think about that When it's 6.40 I always use The Shortland Street situation Yeah The news is just finishing Weather's done
Starting point is 00:08:15 Yep Flick it to Shorty Start the big O Finish at the end It's to Shorty With ad breaks too Yeah yeah How many calories
Starting point is 00:08:22 Would that burn Well I don't I don't know. Oh, gosh. I'll put it in my fitness pal. Okay. Big orgasm. No, I was just going to put orgasm into my fitness pal. I'll see if it's under, it'd be under cardio.
Starting point is 00:08:35 No, you'd have to give time, like spent. Yeah, I'm going to. Oh, okay. 30 minutes. Oh, okay. Oh, no results found. Even just for a plain org? Google.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I just put orgasm. Oh, right. Yeah, how many calories does an orgasm burn? Okay, right. So, the data collected showed men who were infertile had an average length of 4.92 inches compared to fertile men with 5.27 inches. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:04 So, there's not a big difference in it. That's like an inch and a bit, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'm struggling to see how size relates to fertility. But as you're saying, there's always been signs of fertility. Yeah. And yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:21 What suits your environment also helps. Like women would look for men traditionally on what would make a better hunter gatherer like a man you know someone who could had a bit of speed
Starting point is 00:09:33 I'm talking hundreds of thousands of years ago but a bit of speed on their feet yeah yeah that strong I guess the strength thing because that means
Starting point is 00:09:42 a protector and a provider at a primal at a primal level. We've evolved somewhat since then. Yeah. But I mean, that's not the news you want to hear if you're already feeling a bit sensitive about it. About it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Well, thanks for bringing that up. But then all hope's not lost because I don't think mine's maybe average, maybe just a bit below average, and I've got two children. So yours is working. We've only ever tried for two children, maybe just a bit below average. And I've got two children. So yours is working. We've only ever tried for two children, so that's 100% success rate. Yeah. On a small penis, so don't worry about it. And what about leisurely activities?
Starting point is 00:10:14 So, well, I've just found apparently the average male burns around four calories a minute. Oh, that's nothing. During sex, and the average female burns around three. So there's the gender pay gap again. Men burning more calories. Also, I'd burn more in a minute on the cross trainer at Les Mills. I know.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yeah. Although, what if you were doing, if having an orgasm on the cross trainer? Double calories. They'd cancel your membership too, wouldn't they? They would too, yeah. And what are they?
Starting point is 00:10:45 It'd be hard too because your legs are already a bit wobbly. I'm a cross trainer. Okay. Oh God. Stoned. Fletchbourne and Megan's Community Notices. Hello and welcome to today's Community Notices, a segment of the show where we have a look at what's happening around New Zealand
Starting point is 00:11:04 according to local Facebook pages. The good, the bad and the often ugly world of Facebook pages. It's your segment. You find all of these things and send them in to us. You screen cap them and send them in and keep them coming. Let's go to Torbay on the North Shore. Is this near where you live, intern, aren't you? This isn't too far from your...
Starting point is 00:11:24 Yeah, it's a couple of bays over. A couple of bays over. Well, this is great news for you. Oh, go on. Chantel has put on the Torbay North Shore page, gifting a frozen bag of chicken nibbles. Oh, brilliant. Oh, nibs.
Starting point is 00:11:36 You love a bit of wings? I especially love second-hand nibbles. Me too. Only six nibbles have been used from the bag, so it's pretty much full. What's wrong with the nibbles? I don't know what's wrong with the nibbles have been used from the bag So it's pretty much full What's wrong with the nibbles? I don't know what's wrong with the nibbles She goes on to say
Starting point is 00:11:49 Must go ASAP Has no space in my tiny freezer First in, first served Is it a freezer space this year? Why wouldn't you just have the nibbles for dinner that evening? Or even just cook them up to snack on Like the nibbles Did your mum used to buy
Starting point is 00:12:03 Big bags of chicken thighs? Yeah. And portions. Yeah. That's what they were called. Portions.
Starting point is 00:12:10 What was a chicken portion? It's just different parts. Like you could get a leg, a wing, a thigh, a breast. a bag of mixed
Starting point is 00:12:16 parts, wasn't it? And then did your mum have the chicken coating stuff? No. The shake and bake. The shake and bake
Starting point is 00:12:23 kind of stuff. Oh no. We wouldn't have a shake and bake. Oh okay. It was a win. We were posh We wouldn't know shake and bake. Oh, okay. It was a plane. We poshed. What did she do to bake it?
Starting point is 00:12:29 I don't think we ever poshed. Did she cover it in egg and then dip it like a schnitzel? I don't know. How did she get it to stick to the chicken? I think you just put it in water. Boiled it. And then you put it in the bag. No.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Maybe it was egg. I don't know. Confirm with Bev. It would have been oil at the least. Yeah. Oh, no. We never got that. Ours were, we were very plain grown.
Starting point is 00:12:47 We had a magic casserole usually. Right. Oh, yeah, ours went in this baking thing with pineapple and... God, now I want chicken nibs. I know. Who would just discard them like that? It doesn't even occur to me to look in the freezer at the supermarket for chicken nibbles. But I love wings.
Starting point is 00:13:03 You know you can buy like 10 kgs. I know. But I'm like, that's great, but where am I going to put it? I buy them fresh from the butcher. Oh, okay. All the sauce about it. I buy them fresh from the butcher. The butcher's right next to our supermarket, and it's cheaper than the supermarket.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Is it? Yeah. Oh, it's the return of the butcher, by the way. I believe that it's fully the butcher's back in. I don't know any butcher apart from the mad butcher. Oh, no, there's many in a good little neighbourhood butcher. Oh, okay. Oh, out your way, there's it's fully the butchers back in... I don't know any butcher apart from the mad butcher. Oh no, there's many. A good little neighbourhood butcher. Oh, out your way. There's a couple of great butchers. I'll give you some details.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Okay. So not con butcher. Meat butcher. So I don't know if those chicken nibbles are still up for grabs, but only six have been eaten. So still totally a great idea. $5 says Arnie tries and she'll be asking for the details. It's not a great idea. $5 is our neutralising. She'll be asking for the details.
Starting point is 00:13:49 It's not a bad deal. It's not a bad deal. Free. It doesn't get any better than that. Can you please go to the post and see if they're still available? They are available. Shit, I'd laugh if you went right for the nips. And they're all like manking to Frosty because that came in like last week and she's got no room in her freezer.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Got a fan bank? She'll be right. Oh, yeah. Fan bank 184. Twice the amount of recommended time. This one comes from the Vic Deals page. I believe it would be pronounced Le Reifzer. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:17 She says, to whomever was biking near the SBCA on the 6th of September, thank you for the photo bomb. You are a star. This is by far one of our favourite wedding photos. SBCA on the 6th of September, thank you for the photo bomb. You are a star. This is by far one of our favourite wedding photos. Credit to Joanna for the amazing photo. And here's her wedding photo where someone's cycling past as they're having their wedding photos done. And the cyclist is like, hey!
Starting point is 00:14:38 And the camera moves it and it looks like a totally set up photo but apparently completely coincidental. Oh, wow. That's amazing. That is quite a Oh, wow. That's amazing. That is quite a cool wedding photo. That's really great. Of the cyclist. I always bomb people's photos when I'm biking out.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I did it last week. When I was walking to the Venom movie, there was these people taking a selfie in front of a Domino's. I was like, weird place for a photo. So as I walked past, I was like, wah, and jumped up, and he turned around, and he's like, bug place for a photo. So as I walked past, I was like, wah. And like jumped up and he turned around and he's like, bugger off. Whoa. I was like, okay, mate, you ever seen a dominoes before?
Starting point is 00:15:12 Well, maybe they were from the rural, they didn't have a dominoes. And they're going to take it back and show everyone about the dominoes. We gone had our photo taken with the dominoes. Till some asshole got in the background. Now you can't even see our faces. Next through community notices, this one comes from the Nelson Snippets page. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Congratulations to Nelson too, opening their new $30 million airport. New Zealand's fifth busiest airport. I'm so jazzed about going down at Christmas to see this new airport. You get a bit of airport in you. What's new about it? It's all new.
Starting point is 00:15:47 It's a new terminal, everything. Because it was pretty old, the old Nelson terminal. Did you guys see New Plymouth when we were there getting a new terminal? Yeah, but it's not as nice as Nelson's. It will be better. It looked like a versatile garage. Wait, excuse me. No, that's the Jetstar terminal.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Oh, the Jetstar terminal in New Brunswick looks like a versatile garage. It looks like where you do geography or something. It's a prefab building. Gotta get a garage. Gotta get a garage. Gotta get a Skyline Airport Terminal. Now building at the only gate one. And then you...
Starting point is 00:16:18 Oh, no, mate, you can't board yet. We haven't opened the roller door. We're pretty flash. We've got a garage door open. From Nelson Snippets, I have a weird message, but here goes. I found a dead tui in my garden this morning.
Starting point is 00:16:34 We saw so many tuis when we went bush. It was so nice. I love a tui. It looks like it died of natural causes though there are loads of cats around here, so maybe it got scared to death. I don't want to chuck out this glorious native bird.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Would anyone want it to taxidermy? Otherwise, I'll be holding a burial ceremony for it. I only noticed it this morning, so it wouldn't have been dead for more than 12 hours or so. Right. Is there a time limit of when you can taxidermy Like rigor mortis can't see it I'm a big fan of taxidermy bird
Starting point is 00:17:08 Also the person That's coming around to get that I'm totally judging you Taxidermist Like you know Is that a step away From a serial killer No
Starting point is 00:17:17 I feel like as long as they're like I'm talking about those home You know those home taxidermy It's a hobby The hobby taxidermy Yeah but as long as they're taxidermying and not like doing other things. True.
Starting point is 00:17:28 What? Like killing people. Oh, like Frankenstein birds. And finally today from the Rollison community page, Mitch writes, to the dog owners who think it's a great idea
Starting point is 00:17:37 to leave dog shit on the footpath outside my house, maybe you shouldn't have a dog if you're too much of a tired prick to pick up your dog poo. I'll warn you now. If I catch you doing it tomorrow, I'm going to make you eat it.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Everyone else, have a lovely blessed day. Blessed be the fruit. Blessed be the fruit. I'll make you eat that dog shit. That's today's community notices. If you see something on your Facebook page that makes you go, good place to live, screencap it in centre towers. We're FVMZM on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:18:07 FVMZM. I want to talk about an ad that the Sofitel Hotel in Brisbane has put out there. And, I mean, let's just, before everyone gets, like, really outraged at the feminists, people are just pointing out,
Starting point is 00:18:26 like, a little issue. I mean, it's not like everyone's burning like torches and getting outraged. We're just saying, hey, this is a little bit sexist. I happen to quite like the Sofitel. I've stayed at one. Didn't pay for it. I've stayed at one too. It's very lovely.
Starting point is 00:18:41 But it's important to point out things when you think there's a little, you know, little something off. Okay, so they've put an ad out. What's wrong with. But it's important to point out things when you think there's a little, you know, little something off. Okay, so they've put an ad out. What's wrong with that? They've put an ad out. So it shows,
Starting point is 00:18:52 it's his breakfast in Brisbane. So it must be the Brisbane's Overtale. There's a couple lying in bed and they're both in robes and they're both reading. It's like morning. And it's,
Starting point is 00:19:03 what they're reading that has caused outrage. So he's reading the Financial Review newspaper. She's reading a Chanel book. A Chanel coffee table book. Because she's a woman, she likes fashion. She likes fashion and stuff. Although if this was you and Mr. Toyboy, you totally wouldn't
Starting point is 00:19:18 be reading the Financial Review. You'd probably both be reading the Fashion Book. Yeah, I was going to say, he wouldn't be reading the Financial Review. Who reads the financial review? Oh, yeah. It was the worst part of the paper. When you go to a cafe on a Saturday and you're like, alright, where's the paper? Because I'm in a cafe and all of a sudden it's the 1980s
Starting point is 00:19:34 again, I'm going to pick up the paper. And you pick up the paper and you're like, oh, all it's got is the bloody financial part. You're like, I'll just go without. Yeah. So, the comments were made on this image and people were saying no, don't be silly, you're a woman, you only read fashion
Starting point is 00:19:50 books and cookbooks. So just pointing out, you know, like, it's a bit sexist. Someone said newsflash, some women are actually interested in whether stocks and shares go up and down rather than their hemlines. I mean, yeah, I clicked on it and knew what was wrong with it straight away. But then I did a silly thing and I went to Facebook
Starting point is 00:20:09 and I thought I would look at some of the comments. I was like, some people are going to be like, yeah, this is, you know, it's not crazy, but it's a little bit sexist. Like we can just alter that image in future. I was met with a whole bunch of people just saying it's stupid. How precious have we become if you're seriously offended by this, then maybe you need something more in your life to occupy your time. I'm a feminist, but this is getting out of hand.
Starting point is 00:20:33 There's nothing sexist in this photo whatsoever. How old-fashioned. Oh, someone said this ad is they should actually just both be on their phones. That's actually what it should be. Oh my God, comment of the article. That's brilliant. That would be more realistic. That's more realistic.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah. Yeah. But I was just like, I was a bit upset. Not even talking to each other on a romantic weekend. I love it. The whole thing that upsets me about this ad is on the bed, there's three things. There's a basket of like breads
Starting point is 00:21:05 croissants and bread there's a plate of fruit grapes strawberries and melons a variety of melons then at the back
Starting point is 00:21:14 there looks to be sort of a pancake-y crepe situation and there is a syrup and a shallow ramekin
Starting point is 00:21:21 now that should be eaten on the bed oh no because that's gonna skid straight off the plate and straight onto the bed. Yeah. And then you're going to find a house camping that has syrup, but it doesn't look like syrup. Looks like you've wiped your bum on the sheets.
Starting point is 00:21:36 And that's my biggest problem. Don't eat on the bed. Go to where the breakfast happens to eat. At the breakfast buffet or in the table. The Top Six with Vaughan Smith. Hello, today's Top Six. It deals with Te Manu Ranganui Otetai. Bird of the year.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Oh, okay. The voting is open. Thanks. The voting is open. You can vote. I think the votes are pretty still stacked in the kereru's favour. Kereru. The kereru. I'm going votes are pretty still stacked in the Ketiru's favour. Ketiru. The Ketiru. I'm going for the Ketiru.
Starting point is 00:22:10 4,500 votes for the Ketiru. I myself voted for the New Zealand Falcon. Remember we met the Falcon when we were in Marlborough. What a majestic creature. Oh yeah. I mean I'm a huge fan of all New Zealand birds. Apart from the Gannet. Nah, the Gannet's okay.
Starting point is 00:22:25 And pigeon. It was just way stinkier. But I guess get any creature together in those sorts of numbers and they get stinky. Humans included. You go to any music festival, arrive there after everyone
Starting point is 00:22:35 has been there for a few days. They've acclimatised to the stink, but it's really something to behold. Yeah. So you can go on ahead and vote, but here are the top six birds I can't believe aren't nominated for Bird of the Year.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Okay. Some of them because they're immigrants, and that's racist because we're all New Zealanders. They've been here for like 80 generations. Yeah. Given that they give birth almost immediately. Number six on the list, the top six birds that I can't believe
Starting point is 00:23:01 aren't nominated for Bird of the Year. The loud bird that sits on your gutter squawking at 6 a.m. on a day where you're hungover and you finally were going to get a sleep in. Yeah. It always lands there and it's never like a... It's never like a... No.
Starting point is 00:23:13 It's always like... Maybe you woke it up when you got home at half past two, three in the morning. It's payback. And it's payback time. Number five on the list of the top six birds I can't believe aren't nominated for bird of the year. The bird that always shits on your car minutes after you've washed it. Wash your car, looks all great. Who did that massive turd on the roof?
Starting point is 00:23:38 It was a bird. It better have been a bird. Number four on today's top six of birds that I can't believe aren't nominated for bird of the year. The bird that plays chicken with you on the road and nearly makes you crash. Oh, yeah. I'm looking at you, minor bird.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Are they the ones with the yellow beak and the black bodies and they like to run across the road? Brown and gold. Yeah. And they're actually really quick. I call them road runners. Because they run across the road. Yeah, I'm like, get off the road.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Yeah, they're minor birds. I believe them roadrunners. Because they run across the road. Yeah, I'm like, get off the road. Yeah, they're minor birds. I believe native to India, were they? I know the kingfisher's native to India, although we've kind of adopted it because it's pretty, but we don't adopt it.
Starting point is 00:24:13 How do you know this stuff? Like, it's just all in there. Because I always thought the kingfisher was a native bird. No. But then I'd never heard a Maldi name for it. So I was like,
Starting point is 00:24:21 where do you come from, buddy? And then there's that bear called kingfisher, and that's an Indian bear. Oh, you're right. It's an Indian bird. Number three on the list of the top six birds that I cannae believe aren't nominated for Bird of the Year are the aggressive swan
Starting point is 00:24:34 at every town or city local pond. Always aggressive. The ugly duckling grew up to be a full-blown cute psycho. I preferred you when you were chilled out and your ego was lower and everyone was like, ooh, ugly duckling, and you could have taken whatever you could.
Starting point is 00:24:49 But now you're like, ooh, look at me. Yeah. I'm trying to grab a bird. Don't charge at me or I'll give you a kick. Number two on the list of the top six birds that aren't nominated for the Bird of the Year, and I can't believe it. The bird that belongs to your crazy friend who likes birds. I mean, of all the pets, a bird?
Starting point is 00:25:07 And I'm allowed to say this because I'm a reformed bird owner. Because don't your parents still have birds? Yeah. Canaries? Budgies? God, they're annoying, the canaries. Yeah. Because they sing and it makes your ears go.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Just constantly. 7 a.m. And you just put a towel over them. No, they still sing. Oh, really? Is that a cockatiel? It would be loud. You'd put a towel over them. No, they still sing. Oh, really? So the cockatiel would be like, you'd put a towel over it, it would think it was nighttime and it would stop. And if you just got sick of it during the day,
Starting point is 00:25:31 you'd just be like, put a towel over it. Stupid bird. That's another reason I don't really like pet birds is because I don't think they belong in cages. I like my birds like my old TV sets that I don't know what to do with. Out of my house and preferably dumped in the native bush. And the number one bird on today's Top 6 birds that I can't
Starting point is 00:25:50 believe aren't nominated for the bird of the year. That roadside chicken you saw that no one else saw. Is that a chicken? Did you guys see that? Did you guys see that chicken? No? Am I going crazy? Was there a chicken? What would a chicken be doing?
Starting point is 00:26:05 We're in the middle of nowhere. What's a chicken doing here? I've got an answer. People dump those chickens because they're sick of having chickens. And they turn into like wild chickens. I always think they look some of the healthiest chickens. Big, friendly-ass looking chickens. Lay a good big egg.
Starting point is 00:26:21 That's today's top six. Fletch. Vaughn. And Megan. The podcastch. Vaughn. And Megan. The podcast. Sam. A toy from our childhood. Well, maybe not yours, Fletch, but my childhood.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Maybe more female's childhood is coming back. Polly Pockets are going to be released. I know of Polly Pockets, but I don't know what they are. So I remember them being in a little shell-like thing. And you have Polly Pockets written on it. And then you open it up and it's like a tiny little house or like a cafe or an area where your little...
Starting point is 00:26:49 Or it's at a setting. Yeah, where your little Polly Pocket doll would like go around. There's a cafe in the egg. Or it was like in a... It could be a different setting. A shell or a small... Like a clam.
Starting point is 00:26:56 It opened up. Oh, yeah, I remember those. And then the rich kids had a larger one. Yeah, that's original Polly Pocket. And then the rich kids had like more of a Yeah, that's original Polly Pocket. And then the rich kids had like a more of a tiny child briefcase situation. Yes. And it would fold open. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:27:10 And it opened sideways and it was like Polly Pocket's house. It was like a three-level situation. Yeah, like a land. Well, they're coming back. This is in Australia. They're going to be in Kmart. So I'm kind of hoping that it's going to happen here because. Well, because you want one?
Starting point is 00:27:25 Yeah, because I never had one. Everyone else had them. Yeah, I think they were rich kids. Yeah, we didn't get a lot of the toys that were on TV. Like G.I. Joes and stuff. We got G.I. Joes. We didn't get Transformers as much as other kids. I got a secondary He-Man character.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Oh, which one? I don't know, but it wasn't the main one. What did he look like? I'm assuming that... Beastman? Was he orange. Oh, which one? I don't know, but it wasn't the main one. What did he look like? I'm assuming that... Beastman? Was he orange? Nah, green maybe? And he had a head that would swivel around.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah, Swamp Guy. What was Swamp Guy's name on He-Man? I was like, well, Mum, it's not He-Man, but, you know, thanks. I appreciate it. Every He-Man needs a Swamp Guy. Yeah. So you take it to school and like... I think maybe my brother got He-Man and I was real pissed about it.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Oh, yeah. I mean, that's unfair. But I felt your pain because you'd see the ads for all these toys, like Polly Pockets and stuff. And then everyone would have them at school and you'd be like, oh, yeah. Producer Caitlin,
Starting point is 00:28:15 did you have a Polly Pocket? Yes, so I didn't have... Okay. So like, let me explain. Rich kids. Rich kids. Yeah, but I'm a lot younger than you guys,
Starting point is 00:28:24 so they probably weren't. They weren't. I had like sort of Would we say a lot? Would we say a lot younger? You're banging on 30. Excuse me, I'm still in my 20s.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I'm still in my 20s. I'm mid-20s. You're late 20s. I'm mid-20s. We're late mid. Anyway. That's late 20s. That's Swedish rounding.
Starting point is 00:28:43 I had, I didn't have like That's Swedish rounding. I had, I didn't have like the house or anything. I had like, I had six of them. And I know. No, but they were this big. They were like
Starting point is 00:28:52 in the palm of your hands. Yeah, they were tiny. The little shells. And okay, so I had like a mermaid one and then I had like a horse one. Oh, I wanted the mermaid one. Did your parents win
Starting point is 00:28:59 lotto or something? No, they weren't that expensive when I was at the age of moving fully pockets. They were. They was at the age of moving fully pockets. They'd passed the apex of their popularity perhaps. And also my auntie
Starting point is 00:29:11 really wanted us to like her so she used to buy them for us. Oh, you had a cool auntie. Did that work? Yeah, for a little bit. Is she not cool now? Oh yeah, she's okay. My uncle always used to buy her stuff
Starting point is 00:29:21 She's in Australia. Oh yeah, okay. My uncle always used to buy her stuff until he got kids of his own. And then he forgot about you later. You resent your new cousins. You're like, we used to be your dad's faves. Now you're your dad's faves.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Right, so is that a toy to look out for for parents this Christmas? Yeah, so there's a new range, 13 new sets to collect. Yeah, see, but back in the day, there wasn't any other small dolls. Now we're in it. LOL? We've got your LOL dolls. You've got your twosies.
Starting point is 00:29:46 There's a huge range of tiny miniature dolls now. But it's probably pocket. Yeah, I know, but that doesn't mean anything to the fickle youth of today, Megan. True. We've bought LOL dolls. We've had heaps of LOL dolls in our house, and they just get their heads pulled off and popped on a different body. It's a classic.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Yeah, it doesn't bother the girls but it bothers me that LOL's upper half's African American but her lower half is like Scandinavian. And they're just like, oh, it's a mix of maths. It's teaching multiculturalism. That's not how it works. I say, look
Starting point is 00:30:20 at your mum. She's made up of part Chinese and part white but she doesn't have a brown head and a white body. And then they were like putting arms on, they put brown arms on a white body. They're like, this one's you, mum. It was all very confusing. I just want to talk about something I've noticed.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I've noticed it for a while on Instagram, but I think I brought it up yesterday in front of you, didn't I? And you agreed. You were like, this is a weird online Instagram, but I think I brought it up yesterday in front of you, didn't I? And you agreed. You were like, this is a weird online tool. But I see why people do it. So the thing is, the thing I want to point out, I don't believe it's in any way influencing. It's not like product related.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Okay. It's not like that. It's when somebody puts up a new photo of themselves on Instagram as a post. Yeah. Then in their story, on Instagram stories, they put up the same photo, but they cover a bit of them. Yeah. Like, it might be their face or, like, a bit of their hot bod. It's normally their hot bod.
Starting point is 00:31:19 New post. New post on my profile. Check it out. Check it out. Swipe up to see. It is annoying you so much. But I don't get it because I've already seen it. Because they've just shown me in the story.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I don't need to go. I can use my imagination to see what's under there. That sounds pervy. It's not always pervy. Sometimes it's just like them on a hike, going for a walk, and it's like, new post. Am I going for the caption?
Starting point is 00:31:43 Am I going for the inspirational quote? I think they're assuming that not everyone's seeing the post. So this is just doubling down on them seeing the post. Yeah. They want everyone to know there's a new post. They want everyone to see it. I just don't think maybe you understand
Starting point is 00:31:59 millennial attention seekers on Instagram. Just like, I've got a new post up. You should go and like it. But sometimes it's not even like millennials. It's older people as well. Okay. So I should go and like it?
Starting point is 00:32:13 Yeah. No, because they're not telling me to go and like it. They're just saying go and have a look. And also you don't want to like it because they're begging for it. I know. That's a stubborn thing. It's just like a tease. He's like, oh, this is like part of the
Starting point is 00:32:26 photo. The post is up on my... But it's like 95% of the photo. They should blur it like it's on Police 107 or something. Or it hasn't loaded properly on Instagram. Yes. Is this picture not loaded? That's mysterious and you believe you're in a technical
Starting point is 00:32:42 glitch but this is just... Or like when you get a post from somebody you don't know and it's like this has been blurred for your security or something. I know, yeah. I'm always like, ooh, what's this? What is it? Oh, it's a cat. But then it's weird because that doesn't happen every time. Does Instagram have sort of like a filter that deems things...
Starting point is 00:32:58 I think they just flag dodgy people maybe. Right. Oh, you've got a history. You're on their no-fly list. No flying DMs to people you're not friends with. You'd like people to stop doing this? Yes, please. Because it annoys you. Is it, who's the worst offender?
Starting point is 00:33:14 Everybody. What do you mean? Like what kind of. Topless models. Demigrant. Hot people. Hot people. Hot people definitely know they're doing it.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Not all of us. Speaking for yourself. You guys took about two beats too long to. No, I got it. Not all of us. Speaking for yourself, I'm sorry. You guys took about two beats too long to laugh at that. Not all of us do it. Some of us let our content speak for ourselves, our hotbeds. Okay, mate. Your caption that's like a novel that I can't be bothered reading. Yeah, but at least I wrote it.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I didn't copy it from a quote of the day email. But okay, so I'm going for what? Make them feel better. Yeah. Okay. Do you understand
Starting point is 00:33:54 how Instagram works? No, but I don't know why they're doing that. for the likes. Right? They just want the likes. I can understand if it's a video
Starting point is 00:34:00 and you can only, how long is an Instagram story video? 15 seconds. 15 seconds, yeah. And you're like, it's like a trailer for a movie. Yeah And you're like, it's like a trailer for a movie. But when it's just
Starting point is 00:34:07 a picture telling me to go and have a look at the same picture. But it's always most of the picture. Most of the good stuff. These people don't know the art of the tease. Have we lost? Have we lost the art of the tease? A lot of the hot bods will completely scribble out their bod. So you have to go to the
Starting point is 00:34:23 post to see. They scribble out their bods? Yeah. No, that's just bad. That's just bad craftsmanship. No, but that's what you're saying. That's the tease. You cover it with a couple of cheeky emojis, don't you? No, but then you're saying most of it you don't need to go to the post.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Exactly. What do they leave in? If they're scribbling it out. Why just let people be born? No, they're fine. They're fine. I was just let people be born Let them do what they want No they're fine They're fine I was just kind of wondering why Maybe you should start doing that
Starting point is 00:34:49 Swipe up to see the whole picture But then I want to do something like Where's Wally Like it'll just be this tiny like leaf And we'll be like Want to see what else is in this picture Swipe up Now that's a good take
Starting point is 00:34:59 FEM ZM Remember when you start a relationship And it's all like Oh my god I can't wait to see him And then you start a relationship And it's all like Oh my god I can't wait to see him And then you get a text And it's like butterflies And it's all very romantic
Starting point is 00:35:09 And exciting in the start And then it kind of fizzles out Just a little bit Fletch wouldn't know Never gets to that point Anyway Most of us buy the car He just pops down to Hertz
Starting point is 00:35:22 And rents another Actually that makes it sound Like you're paying for it. I don't know. Although I did rent a car from Hertz recently. Did you? And budget. But that was an actual rental car. Yeah, that's an actual rental car.
Starting point is 00:35:35 No. Of a partner. I don't think there's anything happening at the moment because his phone's face up today. Yeah, yeah, face down. It's like if the groundhog sees its own shadow, you get five more weeks of summer, but if Fletcher's phone's up, he's not getting any action for the summer.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Okay, whatever. So, I have three things that you can do to bring back the spark that you have at the start of a relationship. Isn't there a term for that? Limerence. I read this article. Limerence. Limerence. It's that feeling you getimerence. Limerence. Limerence.
Starting point is 00:36:05 It's that feeling you get. It's an involuntary state of mind that comes from having romantic feelings for someone combined with your desire to have them feel the same way about you. Basically, it's like that feeling you get when you've got like a crush on somebody or in the really early stages of a relationship. Yeah, it's like the chase. Yeah, the thrill of the chase. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:25 So there's three steps. First one is you can, because like once you've been with someone for a while, like little things can start to annoy you. So you should write a list about your partner, about things that they do that make you smile and things you initially liked about them. So you can always refer back to it,
Starting point is 00:36:43 especially if they're annoying you. And if they stopped doing them, you could indicate to them that you enjoyed when they did those things. Yeah. Second one is interesting. It's exercise. Literally, aerobic exercise can help bolster sexual arousal. So if you spend 20 minutes on the treadmill, it's going to...
Starting point is 00:37:03 God, I'm going to the gym at the wrong time of the day. I go to the gym and I come to have to see your faces. Oh, there's no sexual arousal once I get here. Is that why you come in and you're so jazzed? Yeah. Morning, guys.
Starting point is 00:37:14 And then you two are like, and I'm like, oh, frumpy. And then I'm off. And we're like, not today. We've got a headache. He just called us frumpy.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Did you miss that? Yeah, no, I did hear that. I chose to ignore. Oh, I didn't. Yeah, I meant it. What? Well, maybe you need to, you know, go for some weekend jogs with the wife. Oh, she doesn't jog.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Okay. She's not a jogger. She doesn't enjoy jogging. And that's fine for you. But if you're like, you've been 20 minutes on the treadmill, that doesn't mean that they've been 20 minutes on the treadmill. And some people are like, does that work for everybody? Because 20 minutes on the treadmill might be near death for some people.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I just want to have a lie down. There'll be no good times after that. I need my inhaler. And the final thing you can do to bring the spark back is a little sexy texty. I've read this a lot because you do that initially in the early stages and then you text her into like, what's for dinner? Can you get something on the way home?
Starting point is 00:38:12 So you send them a little like naughty text during the day. I try this. I send like, we're on gifs now. Gifs, whatever you want to call them. Oh, there's not really that many sexy ones. There's heaps of flirty ones. Right. And like, I will barrage my wife when she's watching television
Starting point is 00:38:29 and I've already gone to bed. I will send a barrage of flirtatious GIFs. Like, I'm up here, I'm upstairs. It starts off with like a wink and then a nudge and then like a come here sort of gesture. And then I just get no. Like someone actually mouthing no and then no appears
Starting point is 00:38:47 and her hand's pretty much saying stop. Okay. That was very clear. If you actually wrote like a sexy text to her at that point what do you think
Starting point is 00:38:55 she'd say? Also probably no. Just no. Yeah. We'll try it during the day. Do you send Mr. Toyboy sexy texts? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:03 We always do. Why did I ask? Why did I ask? What's the last one you sent? I don't know if there's like anything too sexy. The last one you sent him, what is it? Oh God, I'm having to scroll back a bit actually. Oh heck, it's not aliving enough.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Yeah, you might need to send him an audio. But what was the last message you did send? Oh, this morning? Yeah. All good babe.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Have a good day. Oh, what was all good? What's going on there? Um, he just wanted to know the name of something. It's real sexy.
Starting point is 00:39:39 That's pretty sexy. No, but usually we do send sexy messages. Hey, what'd you snatch it for? Hey, what's your Snapchat for? Oh, what a shame you don't have my face to open my phone. I really want to know what your sexy texts are like.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I don't send sexy texts. Excuse me, why is your phone always upside down? Why are you always leaning back so we can't see your screen? Because you guys are always looking at my phone. You won't leave me alone. Because you're always leaning back and you do this little grin on your face and lean back so no one can see your phone. I'm a grin texter.
Starting point is 00:40:07 You're a very grin texter. I'm a grin texter. Right now, I want to ask you if you've ever had a Final Destination moment where you were very close. You were so close to being taken out that you couldn't believe it. Because yesterday, after the show, I went home, dropped my stuff at home, had a quick bite to eat, and then I went off to the gym. I went outside their park. What did you have to eat?
Starting point is 00:40:32 It's not vital to the story. I believe it may be. All these details count. No, it really doesn't. I got a hot chicken from the supermarket. Okay. A Jamaican jerk. Yum.
Starting point is 00:40:44 And what did you have? Did you have with broccoli? Steamed broccoli. Okay. A Jamaican jerk. Yum. And what did you have? Did you have with broccoli? Steamed broccoli. Okay. And sauerkraut. Was the broccoli cooked enough? Yes, perfect. Homemade sauerkraut.
Starting point is 00:40:51 You're doing your homemade sauerkraut. No, from the supermarket. That is so spinny. Again, all these details, not necessary to the story. No, I believe they're interesting. So was the broccoli steamed sufficiently? It was, yeah. I microwaved it in one of the steamers.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. The great steamers. Those. Saving time. Okay, how long for? Four minutes. Okay. Oh, that's quite long.
Starting point is 00:41:11 I go for 430. Do you? Do you like your broccoli al dente or like quite soft? Sometimes three, but I like it a little soft. You might have a more powerful microwave for me because four minutes dirty still leaves it quite crispy. I've got a Panasonic. What is it, 1100 watts? 1500. Oh. Jesus. Yeah, I crispy. I've got a Panasonic. What is it, 1,100 watts? 1,500.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Oh! Jesus! I've got an 1,100 Panasonic. I'm not here to muck around. I think ours is like 900 tops. I've got to be careful when I microwave. But again, these details. So that's why you do three minutes 30 and it's cooked sufficiently.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Exactly. Mine would be raw as anything. Again, Vaughn, these details, nothing to do with the story at all. These all you watch. I don't know what's happening here, but all these details count. So I eat, I get changed into my gym gear, and I walk outside, and I'm 10 metres away from my apartment building when out of the sky falls a pot plant a metre in front of me
Starting point is 00:42:01 and smashes onto the ground. And from the next building, it's fallen from wherever. I couldn't see any open windows. So it must have come right from the top story. Oh, well, if I knocked my pot plant off, I'd shut my window. I'd be like, oh, God, nothing we can do now apart from pretend we never owned that pot plant. So would I.
Starting point is 00:42:21 But, man, it hit the ground with some, it's, like, splattered. I was, like, I shat myself with some, it's like splattered. I was like, I shat myself. Like it was. What kind of plant was it? Like how big are we talking? It looked like some kind of fern. And it wasn't, it was just a medium sized pot plant.
Starting point is 00:42:35 That doesn't matter. It would have absolutely scorned you. Luckily, it was only in the plastic container. Still though. So I still think it would have like really hurt. It would have knocked you out Surely Because it was coming From quite high But if it had been
Starting point is 00:42:47 In like a terracotta pot Or something And your font now Never closed You've still got that Big soft spot On the top of your head We've got to be
Starting point is 00:42:53 Very careful with you Don't we We do We've got to be Very careful You're like a baby You've got a big soft spot But I was a metre away
Starting point is 00:42:59 From dying This is my final destination And I was so Like it really woke me up And some suits Walked down the road I was like I nearly, it really woke me up. And some suits walked down the road. I was like, I nearly got hit by this pop plant. Just fell out of the sky. And didn't even say anything to me.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Just kept walking. Just kind of like. Bit of a chicken little situation. Yeah, like, I was like. You're looking for people to join your crusade. Tell everybody that the sky has fallen. But they didn't seem to care. And I was the only one that did.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Because I'd been. Nearly died. Nearly died. You need to be careful today. Because if someone's actually trying to kill you like whatever well yeah a lot of people
Starting point is 00:43:28 I put this on my Snapchat story and people saying it's karma for all the plants that you've killed or your cat's trying to kill you but it didn't come from your own window
Starting point is 00:43:37 Karen's like let me out of here all these details do count because if you had had a lower wattage microwave, you might have had to cook your broccoli for a little bit longer, meaning you would have been slightly later leaving your house, meaning you would have been under it when it fell.
Starting point is 00:43:56 All these things count. All these things count. Or if you hadn't delayed me so much leaving work yesterday. Correct. For a goss, I would have been home sooner and still missed it. Yes. You could have missed it by even more. Something could have happened throughout the day yesterday.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Or if those traffic lights, if I hadn't jaywalked and actually waited. Yeah. I could be right under that pot plant. Please don't jaywalk today. Even pulling apart the jerk chicken you purchased, you might have been like, what does this taste like? And taken just that extra bit of time to be like,
Starting point is 00:44:25 that's delicious. And then I would have died. Rather than doing the standard one you already know and you would have died. So this is what I want to ask. 0800 Dials at M, 9696,
Starting point is 00:44:35 what is your final destination moment that time when you came so close to death? I mean, I had a scary spin out in my car and almost T-boned. Yeah, but that's your fault, isn't it? No, because there was oil on the road, which I couldn't see.
Starting point is 00:44:50 It was dropped by a truck and my car spun around and around and just missed being T-boned by a lamppost. And luckily... It's not called T-boned when you hit a lamppost. No, because it's a T to the side of me. Isn't that why it's called a T-bone? No, it's called a T because the car is one part of the T and you're the other
Starting point is 00:45:05 part of the T. It's not. Oh, I thought it hit me on a T. That's just you running into a lamppost. Okay. Alright, give us a call
Starting point is 00:45:13 with your final destination moment now. Right now, taking your final destination stories, those times of near misses, those times you nearly died. I'm lucky to be here
Starting point is 00:45:23 today, guys. And that would have been like quite... What a way to go. Death by a pot plant, given all the pot plants you've killed. Yeah, I know. But like, yeah, what a real sad way for it to end. How did Fletch die?
Starting point is 00:45:35 Oh, just a pot plant falling from an apartment building. Yeah. What a way to go away. Sorry, it's not funny. No, but if I did die like that, you have permission to laugh, because that is funny. I want to go out ironically.
Starting point is 00:45:46 I like to think I'd cry first and then later I'd laugh. Yeah, cry laugh. Killed by the thing he killed so many of. Yeah, it was fitting karma. Your headstone, reading. Some text messages in on Final Destination moments. Somebody said their laziness has saved them multiple times, but one in particular. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:03 At a gym class, my friend said, are you coming? I was like, oh, I can't, which was a lie. They didn't want to. Yeah. And then at that very gym class, somebody fell off the stage into the blank gap beside their friend. Right. Where they would have been lying down on the ground.
Starting point is 00:46:20 This person fell off the stage and would have landed upon them. Do you think killing them though or just severely injuring? They did use some descriptive terms in this text message to describe the sort of person that fell off the stage. It may have been quite an injury. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Quite an injury. Joy, what happened? Hey, well it was actually my sister. So she was in town when the Christchurch earthquakes happened. Okay. So she was at her workplace, which was City Fitness. Okay. And she was standing next to like a pole or something,
Starting point is 00:46:56 and the earthquake struck, and she like was pulled out of the way by someone, and just in time for like this big industrial heater to like fall right where she was standing. Oh my God. Jeez. It literally just
Starting point is 00:47:11 got her on her arm so she's still got a scar on her arm to this day like where the industrial heater like hit her. And that was just like a scrape.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Like wow. I guess when something the scale of the Christchurch earthquake does happen there's heaps of people with these near misses someone messaged in
Starting point is 00:47:27 saying they missed their bus because they saw they had a loose shoelace so they stopped to tie it and when they looked up they saw the bus cruise pass that was one of the buses that got crushed
Starting point is 00:47:34 by falling debris in the earthquake wow yeah count these lucky stars every day someone said we were driving through
Starting point is 00:47:43 it doesn't say where but through a forest. So I'm imagining it was forestry. And the weather was pretty bad and my mum said, I'm just going to pull over for a bit. They pulled over and then this giant tree went on the road where they would have been driving. It might not have crushed them, but they would have skidded
Starting point is 00:47:57 and crashed into it. So plenty of... Somebody actually had the glass fall. From an apartment building? Yeah. They said it was only from the first story, but yeah, it fell just right in front of them.
Starting point is 00:48:11 And they thought back in the day, anything that could have slowed them down 10 seconds. Yeah, they would have been dead. Yeah. Or severely injured. They could have been really badly hurt. It is World Mental Health Day today, but it's also Mental Health Awareness Week in New Zealand, which happens to coincide with World Mental Health Day today, but it's also World Mental Health Awareness Week in New Zealand,
Starting point is 00:48:26 which happens to coincide with World Mental Health Day. And so to talk about it with us is Jazz Thornton, who is the co-founder of Voices of Hope. Good morning. Good morning. So can you explain to us what Voices of Hope is and how it came about? Yeah, so Voices of Hope is something that came about after a good friend of mine took their own life. And I put something up on Facebook about it. And a girl, Genevieve Moore, contacted me and was just like, we need to do something about this. At this point, we'd never met. She was living in LA, I was living in Auckland. And we were like, okay, how do we, like, what can we do that can help change this? And we decided that we wanted to create something that would have helped us when we were both
Starting point is 00:49:08 going through our own struggles. And so Voices of Hope was born. And basically, we create online video content and campaigns around mental health and suicide. We cover all kinds of different illnesses. And we also go around, we speak in high schools at our high school tour across Australia, New Zealand, and events around the world. Why do you think in a world where most health statistics are getting better,
Starting point is 00:49:36 you know, medicine's advancing, we've eliminated all of these diseases, why do you think mental health hasn't kept up with other areas of health and the declining numbers? Because we've only just started talking about mental health now. So all the other, everything else has started to decline because we've been focusing on everything else for a very long time. We've been focusing on solutions, whereas with mental health, it's been very much, oh, let's not talk about it. And then people won't know how bad it is.
Starting point is 00:49:58 And now everyone's understanding how bad it is. So we're really working on the back foot of this whole thing. And a lot of it, I guess you don't see. Yeah. With mental health, a lot of diseases are very, you know, identifiable. You can see them, but mental health, someone could be living with it and no one has any idea. Yeah. Which is why people are so afraid to speak up because you can see a broken leg and people will believe you with a broken leg. But if you're feeling depressed or have a personality disorder or whatever it is, then it's so hard to articulate that because people at times just don't believe it because they can't understand or see it and new zealanders are pretty bad aren't they with their feelings oh yeah yeah so we're not
Starting point is 00:50:35 oh we did a um a men's campaign recently which was called it's not weak to speak because we were looking at our statistics and a lot of them were kind of the middle-aged men who just carried that stigma of like because we tell them to harden up. Yeah, since a young age. You'll be right mate. And now it's being trickled down to the younger generation hence why the 20 to 24 males are so bad as well because they're looking at these, you know, middle-aged older men who are successful in business or whatever looking up to them who don't cry about anything, don't talk about anything and so they're learning that. Yeah. How do you think you identify in your mates that someone's struggling? Because so often it's someone who people look at and think,
Starting point is 00:51:10 oh, they were happy, they were so successful. How do you think you identify that someone might not be okay? Often people start to quite subtly withdraw from situations. They might not hang out with people as much. I know for me, when I was going through all of my stuff as a teenager, a lot of people, when my story came out, were like, what the heck, we had no idea. But to be completely honest, I think it's the kind of thing
Starting point is 00:51:36 that you just have to have consistent conversations with people to be like, hey, how you doing? Like, how are you actually doing? It's really the only way to know. Yeah. And how, like, with asking your mates, how many people can you actively like look after? I was thinking if someone had a group of mates,
Starting point is 00:51:54 a close group of say eight mates, and they were all looking after each other, but people just on the outer of that, you know, like how, and then does it become dangerous that, you know, some people are trying to fit in so many other people they don't take care of themselves or miss obvious signs on those closer to them? Oh, definitely.
Starting point is 00:52:11 That's something that I've had to learn very, very quickly with what we do with Voices of Hope because we have hundreds of people coming to us and naturally you want to help everyone. But what I've come to realise is that it's actually really dangerous if you're the only one trying to help them because in your mind you think that you can save them and if something happens then you spiral yourself.
Starting point is 00:52:30 And I've had that from personal experience as well. So I think that especially within the younger generation that you have to immediately be uplining to teachers and things like that. No one should be doing it by themselves and no one should feel like they need to save someone. But unfortunately in our country at the moment, it's not as easy to just be like, oh, let's just go get help because we're struggling in the systems of getting help. You just get put on a nine month waiting list.
Starting point is 00:52:55 And so, yeah, it's very much just kind of as much as you can ensuring that you're talking to everyone else in that person's life. On that regard, talking to other people in that person's life, what if there's a, not a bad influence, but like parents that don't understand or say, oh, that's just them, it's just a phase. Who's the next port of call? Because I'm imagining a lot of people would also feel
Starting point is 00:53:18 it was a betrayal of trust. If you go to their parents and say how I'm worried about them and then the parents come romping. as a parent I would I wouldn't you'd want to pounce on it and you know sort it out as soon as possible which might be detrimental to it yeah I've had a situation like that before with a young girl that I was talking to and her parents just really didn't get it and so I just ended up going into the school and going to the school counsellor with her and that was just a point like when she's at school for that eight hours, at least I knew that she was safe there.
Starting point is 00:53:47 And her school counsellor was able to help organise outside care. So if parents, you know, parents should kind of be like, especially if they may be the ones who don't understand and it might make it worse, and you're in school, go to the school counsellor first and seek advice from them. But when it comes to adults, obviously, you don't necessarily need to go tell their parents. But whoever's in their immediate friend group, everyone needs to be aware. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:12 I was just thinking, you know, if someone wants to help, so you're like, okay, I'm going to ask my friend because I feel like they're struggling, but they feel awkward. They don't know what to say. They don't want to put their foot in it. And then they might not know what to say afterwards. What's like an easy way someone can try and help? Not like an easy way, but, you know, like to educate people on how they can help. Yeah, I mean, it really is just that simple question for me of like, how are you doing?
Starting point is 00:54:37 And then if someone's just like, oh, yeah, no, I'm good. Just dig a little bit deeper because people naturally, and I used to do it as well, just put up this kind of wall and it does take a little bit to tear it down. And so just be like, so how, you know, how you doing? I'm good. Like, are you actually like, I've noticed that, you know, you've started to withdraw. I've noticed that you don't seem like what you used to be like, are you sure that you're okay? You know, you can talk to me if you want to. And then if they do suddenly say that they are really struggling with all of these things, then there's places like 1737 that you can call and be like, yo, what should I do? And they can kind of help you assess what the best step to do is.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Awesome. Well, if people wanted to get in touch with your organization, how would they do that? Our website is www.thevoicesofhope.org. And then we're just Facebook Voices of Hope. Cool. And you still don't, I saw you did a TED Talk. I'm doing a TED Talk on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:55:27 How amazing is that? That's pretty cool. Very cool. Very excited. Very excited. Well, congratulations. Thank you. Awesome work.
Starting point is 00:55:34 On your awesome work and yeah, thanks on behalf of people who you have helped for being there for people. Thank you so much. This week and any time but this week is a great time
Starting point is 00:55:42 to ask people if they're doing okay. If you're worried about them, you can talk to a GP, a local mental health provider. If someone's in immediate danger, though, call 111, obviously, for emergency services. There's Lifeline, Suicide Crisis Helpline, Youthline, Need to Talk, Kidsline, WhatsApp, the Depression Helpline, and the Samaritans as well. All of those numbers and contact details can be found at ZMOnline.com. Thanks, Jaz. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Lord on ZM, Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. 8.27. Before we even open the Fletch's latest bulk purchase, say what you just said. That I'm looking for a bulk purchase of liquid laundry detergent. I said cut me in on that. But you can get those four litre.
Starting point is 00:56:25 But the problem is, with the four litre laundry detergent, it's so heavy when you get your pour on, you end up using like three or four. And are you picky on which one? Because the warehouse have those huge ones. I don't do powder. I don't do powder. You do the Ylang Ylang, don't you?
Starting point is 00:56:39 I only do the liquid. Oh, I can't do powder. But you do the Ylang Ylang? Yeah. Are we on the same brand? I think we're on the same washing line. Yeah, the orange top. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:46 It's in a big bottle. Of course you guys are on the same brand. I'll go for a tropical breeze. That green one. That's not bad. No, what you said after that. You've been in touch with the eco store. Oh, because I love the coconut eco store soap.
Starting point is 00:56:57 That's good stuff. Body wash. But it's in a little bottle. So I messaged him on Instagram. I said, can you please get a bigger bottle with a pump? And they never messaged back. Did you message a company about their bottle? Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:09 They're all about the bottles. Who are you? It's too little because I use a lot of soap. This is in no way a plug for them, but I've got some of the body wash. And then they sent us some. Okay, not a plug. But at the bottom it says, if you find a refill station, you take your bottle in and they'll refill it for you.
Starting point is 00:57:25 So you don't keep using more plastic bottles. Wait, can I take a bigger bottle? No, you have to take the bottle that it came in. No, but I'll get a bigger bottle. But I can take my body wash bottle and get it refilled. Get a bigger soap bottle. I can't believe you messaged them. I know, when I was doing it, I was like, what have I become?
Starting point is 00:57:38 It's a slippery slope. Remember when you rode a leg to the council about the pothole? Well, fill it in! I kept riding my bike over it. You're going to be so awful when you get older. I know. So this came from Fishpond.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Yeah, okay. It's not as exciting. Which I thought was a mum ordering site. I didn't know anybody. No, Fishpond's alright. I got a lot of messages and teasing on the street about my bulk hat purchase.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Thanks to you. That's apparently another bulk purchase. It's another bulk purchase. I can finish it off with some good news, but... What is this? This is... Can you...
Starting point is 00:58:07 Well, for a start, there's a lot of these big air bubble bags. I love those. I know. My problem is, though, like, it could come in a smaller box and then you don't need all that plastic bubble stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Oh, Christ. What is it? What is it? It's the shave cream he likes. It's the Primal Earth... Now, I'll give you something. This is a good shave cream the shave cream he likes. It's the Primal Earth. Now, I'll give you something. This is a good shave cream. How many?
Starting point is 00:58:28 One. Two. Oh, my God. They are actually all the same thing. Yeah, of course they are. Four. I told you I like a bulk purchase. Five.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Oh, Fletch. Six. Seven. Oh, Fletch. Eight. Yeah. Babes. Nine. Oh, Fletch. Eight. Yeah. Babes. Nine.
Starting point is 00:58:48 And ten. Yeah. Those ones, they were $5 each. Were they? That's really good pricing. Yeah. This is really good. As bald brothers.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Because bald men always ask me, what do you shave your head with? And I will flick the recommendation for the prime alert. You've got to do so much shaving, face and head. It's so much shave cream. Face, head, balls, the lot. It's multi-surface. You know when you get a
Starting point is 00:59:10 hair, when you get a spray and wipe and it says multi-surface cleaner, this should say multi-surface shaver. Pretty much, yeah. This will do the whole Well, it's not as
Starting point is 00:59:16 exciting as the hats, but yeah, you know I love a bulk purchase. That's a lot though. Yeah, but they stopped selling that at my local supermarket. I had to go online.
Starting point is 00:59:23 And I was like, I don't want to keep going online. I'm just going to do one that at my local supermarket. I had to go online. And I was like, I don't want to keep going online. I'm just going to do one order at a last agent. Is your bathroom cabinet bulging? Mine's bulging. I've got so many deodorants too because I always buy them on special. You're my mum. You are the control.
Starting point is 00:59:39 You're actually worse than my mum. She just buys a few. You're a doomsday prepper. I know. When the end of the world happens, I'll be sweet for shave cream. To sweeten the teas and we did get sent something else. White chocolate M&M's. That's a whole box too.
Starting point is 01:00:00 That is a whole big box. As we mentioned the other day, we don't get all the good flavours from America. So these are imported. These are 210 calories. Oh, okay. all the good flavours from America. So these are imported. These are 210 calories. Oh, okay. Per thing, and there's 24 of them. So there you go. There you go. There's hours on the cross-trainer.
Starting point is 01:00:11 When you don't throw into those jeans anymore, I'll have them. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. And a timely reminder that a week today we will be at Cleaver & Co in Christchurch for our next Fact of the Day pub quiz and $1,000, as always, for the winning team. You've got to register your team at ZM Online and thank you to Air New Zealand's Graber Seat for getting us here as well. Today's Fact of the Day is Russian cosmonauts used to take a triple-barreled shotgun
Starting point is 01:00:45 into space. Just in case the aliens came? Well, not aliens. Okay. But the cosmonauts, when they landed,
Starting point is 01:00:54 the Russians would try to kind of like land them back in Russia, but sometimes they'd land in Siberia. Oh, yeah. And they would take
Starting point is 01:01:01 a little while to find them and Siberia's quite hostile, so it'd take a little while to get to them once they knew where they were. Now, they usually took a little while to find them. And Siberia's quite hostile, so it'd take a little while to get to them once they knew where they were. Now, they usually took a nine-millimeter pistol in. But one guy landed in Siberia and pretty much put a full clip into a bear
Starting point is 01:01:13 and the bear just kept running at him. A bear? A bear, yep, a big bear. I thought maybe the locals would just be like, what's this from outer space? Eat it or shoot it. Well, the local bears did. So he had to lock himself
Starting point is 01:01:26 in the little landing thing while this bear just smashed at it until it got tired and walked away. Right. And after that he said, look, that's just not going to do. That 9mm pistol did nothing. So they invented a new gun
Starting point is 01:01:38 called the TP-82. Okay. And it's a double-barreled shotgun on top and then underneath there's room for one bullet from an AK-47. You click it shut. It's actually a pretty cool-looking gun. It's the sort of gun you'd be stoked if you found in a video game.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Because it's also like a sawn-off shotgun size. It's a pistol shotgun. Great for close combat. Yeah, with two on the top and one down the bottom. Three triggers on it. Huh. And you could also get a machete attachment and a buttstock to make it sit into your shoulder
Starting point is 01:02:07 if you wanted to do some long-range, more precise shooting. So does that mean there's only three shots? Yeah, before reloading. Oh, okay. But it wasn't just a shotgun up top. It was a 28-gauge shotgun. Now, if you know anything about guns, that's a big bad boy. That'll take down a bear, they reckon.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Oh, okay. That'll stop a bear in its tracks. Or scare it sufficiently that the bear's like, I'm going to go back out to pick up the baskets. Not these Russian cosmonauts. They've got too much of a fight. So they also would include some bullets that could be used as flares, like distress signals.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Oh, yeah. Also, it was very, very loud. So if they were anywhere near them, they could set it off to make it sound. But primarily it was used to stop Siberian wildlife, bears and wolves. So today's fact of the day is that Russian cosmonauts used to take a triple barrel gun into space.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. I'm going to call this propaganda. Auckland Transport, propaganda. Oh, God, here we go, Hosking. No, a study's been done by Auckland University's Dr. Kirsty Wild. She's a doctor. What do you mean by that? No, I'm saying we've got to listen. You're like, it's propaganda. I'me. She's a doctor. What do you mean by that? No, I'm saying we've got to listen. You're like, it's propaganda.
Starting point is 01:03:28 I'm like, she's a doctor. Oh, yeah, she's done something. No, she's a female. How did she become a doctor? You were like, she's a doctor. Megan was ready to lynch you. Oh, no, no, no, no. That's a separate issue altogether.
Starting point is 01:03:39 So she has studied some cyclists and found that they are the happiest commuters. Oh, in Auckland? Yeah. Oh, no surprise. You see how busy motorways get and they're scooting along on the bike lane. It's like smug little bumholes. But even out of anyone who takes trains or buses or any other form of transport, cyclists are happiest.
Starting point is 01:03:58 It gets you working. Even if you've got an e-bike, you're still using the feet. You're still doing a little bit of pedalling. You've changed your chin. You've changed your chin on e-bikes. I mean, personally, I'd still rather have my bike that I have to pedal. Yeah. Because you're getting the benefits from it.
Starting point is 01:04:13 But some people, you know, if it's going to help them bike, I'm all for it. Yeah, well, you get the natural endorphins from exercise, but it's not even that. So people who drive cars have to add 50% extra time to get to work, and then you're not even guaranteed to get there on time. People who ride their bikes say they can cut the time spent in traffic. They're not bored. They're not stressed. They get out in the open and they get home on time as well.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Plus you're getting exercise and you don't need to go to the gym afterwards. So why don't you do it then, Megan? Because I live so far away. That would take me – how long do you reckon that would take me? You'd have to have a tent to have a sleep halfway. You'd have to leave at like 7 o'clock at night. Also, if I did it, I'd crash every day. You and bikes isn't a good mix.
Starting point is 01:04:56 I don't know how you steer away from things. Because I always go, don't hit that, don't hit that, and then I hit it. It's a mixture of leaning and twisting your arms. It's hard. Your problem is the key is you look where you want always go, don't hit that, don't hit that, and then I hit it. It's a mixture of leaning and twisting your arms. It's hard. You want to look where you, your problem is, the key is you look where you want to go, but you look at an object and think, I don't want to hit that, so you hit it. Yeah. That's your problem. I've hurt myself a few times on bikes.
Starting point is 01:05:15 That's good news, especially with petrol being so crazy as it is. Yeah. And like a lot of places getting like bike claims and making it easier to bike. I think it's a good thing. Why don't you bike to work? Oh, I live so close. I just walk. I was going to say,
Starting point is 01:05:27 it'd be a weird distance probably by the time you take care of your bike admin. Exactly. You're locking, you're unlocking, you're stacking here at work. You might get more time sleeping. No, I don't reckon a wood would save you any time. No, because by the time I get my bike down,
Starting point is 01:05:40 I get that, you know, my lock, my lock's real heavy because you remember I bought that lock, the 747 tire jack lock. That you can't get through. And then, you know, and then some days you might get to work and it's not raining and then you go to go home and it is raining. But that doesn't happen if you're walking anyway. I always wonder about the cyclists.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Like in summer, it's great. But what about in winter when it's not only like cold and calm, that's okay to cycle in. But what about wet would be horrible. Yeah, that's probably going to throw a spanner in your statistics. Yeah. Because you wouldn't get to work happy if you were caught in the rain, would you? Yeah, and you might be happy, but when you get to work
Starting point is 01:06:14 and you're wearing bike pants and cloppy, cloppy shoes, no one else around you is happy. No one else is happy to see you. Especially if they're seeing that kind of... Good morning, Susan. Great to see you again. Did you bike to work today, did you, Dave? Clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop.
Starting point is 01:06:23 How did you tell? Well, you're still wearing your lycra, I can see your testicles, Dave. That's why everybody else, that's why they're the happiest. They don't care that their testicles are on show, but everybody else
Starting point is 01:06:33 doesn't want to see it. FVM, the podcast. Well, yesterday, was it this time yesterday, we did Radio Doctor, producer James, hurt his foot, what was it, softball?
Starting point is 01:06:45 Softball. Softball. Not baseball. I always get them confused. What's the difference again? Big ball, smaller field, underarm, not overarm for the pitcher. In softball? In softball. Right, okay.
Starting point is 01:06:55 He jumped for a ball and landed on my ankle and, yeah, just not on my foot. And you were having trouble walking and every time you walked, your foot would click. And we heard it and it was disgusting. Yeah, I mean, and it started to hurt the click after a while. So yesterday, the bruising was quite bad. Like, it was swollen. It was quite a cankle, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:13 On that pointy-arty bit on the outside bit of your foot. So we asked you listening. The ankle. For Radio Doctor. The pointy, the sticky-arty bit. Yeah, the ankle. The Fred Flintstone thing. Oh, is it the ankle?
Starting point is 01:07:24 No, on the other side. Yeah, that's the ankle too. It goes on both sides. It's the joint, Megan. Oh, is it? Jesus. Jesus. You'd think you didn't even have feet.
Starting point is 01:07:34 So we asked you, you know, to diagnose this, and several people said you've got to go see a doctor, you've got to get an X-ray, you've got to go to a physio. I forgot to mention yesterday during Radio Doctor, Dr. Dan messaged in saying this is absolute Zika 101. Remember Zika? Yeah. Remember Dr. Dan?
Starting point is 01:07:52 Yeah. It was as prognosy. It was very all about the Zika diagnosis. I mean, a lot of people texting in, though, they were, I mean, it was, you know, it was scaring me a little bit. They were thinking the worst. It was a fracture.
Starting point is 01:08:03 It was ligaments, you know, so. So you booked into the physiotherap the worst. It was a fracture. It was ligaments, you know, so. So you booked into the physiotherapist yesterday. I did, yep. Managed to sneak an appointment in close to home. And what did they say? I went in there and he had a good look, made me stand up, made me go on my tiptoes.
Starting point is 01:08:19 He made me go back on my heels to see how far I could push up. Done a bit of poking around on the ligaments and the diagnosis was a heavy sprain in the end. So you haven't broken it? Haven't broken it, haven't fractured it, or anything like that, which is good. He gave it a good rub, gave me a good chat about it, told me what I need to work on, gave me one of those, you know, he rolls it out of a box and cuts a bit off and puts it
Starting point is 01:08:43 around. Oh, yeah, I love a bit of that. Elastic band sort it around. Oh, yeah, I love a bit of that. Elastic band sort of thing. Yeah, I wouldn't mind a bit of that. I wouldn't mind a box of that. Do you mean strapping tape? It's like a compression tape. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Oh, no, it's like one of those. Socks. No, it's like an elastic band and you put it around your arm or something and you do stretches with it. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. And they come in green or blue or something like that. Yeah, I like that stuff.
Starting point is 01:09:02 That's real cool. Yeah, yeah. So he gave me a bit of that, gave me a few stretches to do, gave it another rub. I love a good rub. You could have just stayed at home and put some deep hate on it, like we said. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:13 This is what I was thinking. Maybe people just overreacted a little bit. It was clicking. And I could have just stayed home. You were clicking. He didn't say much about the clicking. I said, it keeps clicking, though. And he'd be like, nah, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:09:23 You know, people were just clicky people. And I said, yeah, but it keeps doing it. And I can feel the clicking. I said, it keeps clicking though. And he'd be like, nah, that's fine. You know, people were just clicky people and I said, yeah, but it keeps doing it and I can feel the click. And it didn't click there before. Yeah. And he said, nah, nah, you're all right.
Starting point is 01:09:32 You'll be fine. And then just keep rubbing it with the deep heat. All about the rub. Love a good physio rub too. Have you done any of the exercises he gave you? Not yet.
Starting point is 01:09:43 No one ever does. No one ever does. And next time you go back, they're like, did you do your exercises? You're. I just had a few things on last night. And next time you go back, they're like, did you do your exercises? You're like, oh, yeah. It feels so much better. And they fully know, yeah. He's not going to put it under the table leg. We don't have a table.
Starting point is 01:09:53 We love lying to medical professionals, eh? I mean, they're trying to help us. Dentists, do you floss? Oh, you shitchy. Doctors, like, how many drinks do you have a week? You're like, two. Two? Tops.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Two. Two tops. An hour?ops. Two. Two tops. An hour? Two. Absolute two tops. The lawyers are like, is there anything else you need to tell us? And you're like, nah. What did we just?
Starting point is 01:10:13 You sure you don't want to sit with the bodies buried? Nah. I didn't do it. I didn't do it. I didn't do it. Yeah, no, no. Come on, do your job. Accountants are like, you know, is that a business expense?
Starting point is 01:10:22 You're like, yep. We love it. Why do we lie to professionals? We're paying these people a business expense? You're like, yep. Why do we lie to professionals? We're paying these people a fortune to tell them fibs. Just fib to your loved ones. You can do that for free.

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