ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - September 04 2019

Episode Date: September 3, 2019

Vaughan has got Fletch's Plunket Book, Am I A Bad Person and unconventional snacks at the movies.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 ZM. Head music lives here. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Thanks, Anya. Good morning. Welcome to the show. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Good morning. Coming up on the show, the top six. Yeah, a phone was smuggled into a prison inside a kebab. So the top six other foods that are good for smuggling phones with.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Oh, okay. It's always a cake in the movies, isn't it? For a file to find your way out. Yeah, but they started scanning. This is the unusual thing. I thought everything had to go through a scanner. Does it not? Apparently not.
Starting point is 00:00:37 In New Zealand prisons. Apparently not. Loose. Huh. So, yeah, kebab. I'm even surprised that as a prisoner you'd be allowed to accept a kebab. Or any present. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:50 You know, like, wouldn't everything be a little bit fishy? Unless it was a card. I wouldn't have a fish kebab. Neither would I. What prison was it? Is it one that has a kebab place around the corner? I don't know. Was it Nelson?
Starting point is 00:01:03 There's not really kebabs close by. Yeah, and by the time it gets there, it'll be cold. Nelson does a good kebab. I took a lovely, in my single days, I took a lovely young single lady to a kebab shop in Nelson. Oh, that's good. It was their first chicken kebab. It was their first kebab.
Starting point is 00:01:18 She'd never had one before. Blew her mind. She's like, what's this? It's good she had nothing to compare it to. I said, chicken or lamb. And she said, chicken. And then I gave her that. She's like, where's this? It's good she had nothing to compare it to. I said chicken or lamb. And she said chicken. And then I gave her that. She's like, where's the chicken?
Starting point is 00:01:29 I said, it's inside. She thought I was just buying a hot roast chicken. I would have liked to have known what she was expecting from the lamb. Like if it was a whole lamb leg. We actually saw yesterday someone from a kebab shop wheeling a trolley with all those round bits of meat. You know, that they put on the rolls. And I just looked at them and they were vacuum sealed in this plastic. And I was like, that is disgusting.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Like, I love a bit of moot, but not when you see it like that. It's not always a great sober choice. No, oh no, you don't never do a kebab sober. It's always a 2am choice. I can't even remember when never do a kebab sober. It's always a 2am choice, isn't it? I can't even remember when I did a kebab sober. I must have at some stage, but probably because I've just said out loud that it's not something I do sober,
Starting point is 00:02:12 it means I did it once and I was like, I'll probably just leave that for drunken times. All right, you lot, listen up. It's story time. All right, I've found three news headlines and I think I've found possibly the best headline for 2019
Starting point is 00:02:27 included in today's headlines headline one and this is what I think is the best headline of the year I mean maybe a vote Matt I just tickled me
Starting point is 00:02:37 maybe I'm overstating this okay headline one Brazilian to one odds I like it But I mean I think You don't think it's the headline Have you?
Starting point is 00:02:47 I don't know Maybe not Maybe It's good Brazilian to one Brazilian to one odds Headline two Man breaks court order
Starting point is 00:02:55 Five minutes after court appearance And headline three Snug Airbnb listing gains attention Those are your headlines And now pick just one. So you have to cuddle with, there's one bed and you have to cuddle with a person in an Airbnb?
Starting point is 00:03:12 No. Did you say snug? I thought you said smug. Oh no, it's snug. Oh, I know about that one. It's a cupboard. It's a cupboard, isn't it? It's a closet. No, it's not. But that is a news story as well.
Starting point is 00:03:27 You're right. Yeah, they were listing a cupboard space on Airbnb. Very cheeky. It's not that one. No, not that one. A couple of snug Airbnbs. See, I like Brazilian to one. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Okay. Yeah, I reckon go to Brazilian to one. We're going to Brazil? We go to Sao Paulo. Yeah, okay. Okay. Brazilian to one. Yeah, I can go to Brazilian to one. We're going to Brazil? We go to Sao Paulo. Surprise, surprise. We go to Sao Paulo now, where a man was at the Marumbi Stadium in Sao Paulo.
Starting point is 00:03:57 He was watching a football match, and he was at the very top tier of the stadium. You know, these Brazilian, these football stadiums are huge. Massive. Football is massive. So they build these huge stadiums. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I'm imagining it was used for the Football World Cup when that was in Brazil a few years ago. Well, he fell from the top tier of the stadium 40 feet. How much is that from the top tier? I mean, just imagine like Eden Park. How many stories? 12. It's like 12 metres.
Starting point is 00:04:30 How many feet is one story of a building? 12.1 metres. And each floor of a building is about three metres. Right. So four stories. Well, he had apparently been climbing on the rail guard. So whether or not he was trying to stand up and kind of hold a banner or
Starting point is 00:04:48 woohoo or carry on like a drunken idiot, whatever, unsure if he was drunk. But he fell and landed on a 13-year-old girl who broke his fall. Hence the Brazilian to one odds. And she also is in a hospital too.
Starting point is 00:05:04 They both avoided serious injury, but he got a broken femur. It's the leg bone, isn't it? Is that a leg? The big leg bone. Yeah, why don't they just say leg? Always fancying up words, doctors, aren't they? Because femur's like the big,
Starting point is 00:05:19 the big daily bone, isn't it? Yeah, it's the one that's harder than concrete, right? They're always like, it's hard. I can show you a photo of him falling. Oh, my God, mid-flight. That is a huge fall. Like, it didn't sound that high, did it, when we were talking about it, but that's, like, a couple of levels of stadium.
Starting point is 00:05:37 And, yeah, landed on a girl. She broke his fall. Resilient to one odds. She's fine. He's got a broken leg. Wow. Would he have died do we think
Starting point is 00:05:48 I'd say so yeah cause it was if it landed funny yeah for sure yeah wow like if it landed on a seat
Starting point is 00:05:56 and gone like oh yeah you break your back or your neck or something you're out horrible you're out Fletch, Vaughan and Megan the podcast
Starting point is 00:06:03 ZM Hermes is a fashion label. I thought it was going to be some kind of skin rash. H-E-R-M-E-S. Hermes. Are we going with Hermes? What would it be? Because I don't think it's pronounced like that.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Hermes. But shouldn't Hermes, shouldn't that have some things over the letters? Yeah, it does. It does. Have it over the second E. Because it's one of those fancy labels, those fancy stores. But do we have any of those here? You can buy products from some stores, but I don't think we have an Hermes shop.
Starting point is 00:06:37 There's Hermes New Zealand, and that's in Mount Wellington. It's not open. It doesn't open until 9. In Mount Wellington? Yeah. It's got handbags and such. What have you got? Megan's like, what?
Starting point is 00:06:50 Are we? Hermes. Hermes. The website's under construction. It's not Hermes. Accessories distributors opening at 9. Nothing any of us can afford, is it? You know how we talk about the Birkin bag every now and then as a joke?
Starting point is 00:07:03 It's because that's like $30,000 or something. That's very expensive. For a bag? It's a very expensive designer. Very expensive. Right. Well, yeah, look at these handbags on here. Is it one of those stores you'd have to line up with a security guard outside?
Starting point is 00:07:16 Have you seen those stores, like on Queen Street and stuff? They have lines outside. Oh, yeah, I have. Velvet ropes and security guards, and they let you in. It's like Gucci. There's always a line outside Gucci. They let you in one at a time because they don't want you. No, they're only allowed so many people inside the store
Starting point is 00:07:28 because then they have people that look after you and stuff. They like to look after you. Because otherwise if you pack the store out, they're worried that stuff can go missing. Shoplifters. Hermes in Mount Wellington is behind Kennards Hire. That can't be right, eh? I don't think that that's right.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Are we smelling a frat? That might actually be Hermes. Anyway, Hermes, Hermes, Hermes, Hermes. This is your fashion news. Yeah, they've released a jandal. Yep. They're saying a summer sandal is technically what they call it because they obviously want to sound a bit flasher.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I'll tell you how much they cost after I give you the description. They feature a foam sole, so standard wear there. Yeah. Sort of more, from what I can see of the material, more like a crock than a power rubber jandle. Okay. And more softer than a Haviana. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:18 It looks a lot like a foam. With calf skin lining. Ooh. So they've skinned a calf there and used it for the lining. And technical straps. Now, the technical straps, I don't know what's technical about them. They might have Bluetooth speakers in them, but I can't see them. They just look like a standard jandal strap.
Starting point is 00:08:37 It sounds like a cheap foam jandal with a leather top. That would get manky as, wouldn't it? You think about all the sweat and the, ugh. I don't think that you're wearing these ones to the beach. They look like a lot like jandals that you would pick up in an absolute pinch for wanting jandals. At like a tourist shop or a cheap store. Or if you went for a nice massage somewhere
Starting point is 00:09:00 and they're like, just slip these on. You'd slip on these jandals. So everybody's saying that they've seen them at the pound store because this is in the UK. They've seen them at the pound store and they wouldn't pay £335 for them. £335 British pounds. £335 British pounds.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Because some people even don't like paying £35 or whatever you pay for Havianas. Yeah. and 35 British pounds. Because some people even don't like paying 35 or whatever you pay for Havianas. Yeah. But now you're paying... But it's UMI's. Everything's so expensive.
Starting point is 00:09:34 640 New Zealand dollars for a pair of pretty low-end looking jandals. How great is Brexit though? It really is bringing down the pound. Because that,
Starting point is 00:09:43 a few years ago, that might have been like $750. Yeah, I mean, heck, we could look forward to a $600 pair of jingles, couldn't we? And the thing is, there's only a tiny wee H down the side of the strap. So you'd have to be real close to even know that they were a fancy label. They're not lasting long. Look at them. You need like a little beacon being like flashing out as you're walking,
Starting point is 00:10:03 being like, these are Hermes. These are Hermes. This is what's wrong with it all. This is, you want a durable jandal. You know what I'm thinking about? And I think now that I'm a dad, I can probably go for a brown leather jandal. I'm thinking about getting a leather jandal. No, if you're a dad now, you've got to do a sandal with socks. I'm not quite that far down the road.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I could see you doing some Birkenstocks. Yeah, I wondered about that. But you don't want to pay for Birkenstocks because you're a tight ass. When we were in Bali, I saw some fake Birkenstocks. Okay. How much were they? The Buckenstock. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:39 The Buckenstocks. But they didn't have it in my size. Oh, right. They didn't go up. There was like a 10 at the top. They last a long time though. Yeah. Like a good pair of boots.
Starting point is 00:10:47 You're going to get one of those jandals that looks like it's ergonomic to your foot. Those actually look really comfortable. And then it has a material strap. Yeah, those look really comfortable. Yeah. God. Don't buy those. You're just going to fasten that period where your kids are like, drop me off around the corner.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And the jandals. And you become uncool. They'll hear me walking up the school driveway. Flop, flop, flop, flop, flop. Oh, here I come. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. This is really scary and hopefully it will shock some fussy eaters into trying a few more foods.
Starting point is 00:11:18 We've got our own old Nuggies. Nuggies McGee. Nuggies McGee. Nuggies McGee. Please never call me Nuggies McGee. Nuggies McGee. Nuggies McGee. Please never call me Nuggies McGee. Nuggies McGee. No. Intern Anya, it's well known on the show that you were raised on a diet of nuggies.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah. Because you were a very fussy eater. What was it? Nuggies for dinner? Nuggies, baby carrots and the odd sausage. If we needed to up the red meat quota. We're getting a bit anemic. Mum had thrown thrown a sauce.
Starting point is 00:11:45 So you had our vegetable. You had our vegetable in there. Carrots and tomato sauce. But you never did any green vegetables. Oh no. That's so weird that you turned out okay. How are you not stunted? Cheers. Cheers.
Starting point is 00:12:00 A teenager had a similar diet. Maybe a little bit worse because it doesn't involve any veggies. He lived on Pr similar diet, maybe a little bit worse because it doesn't involve any veggies. He lived on Pringles, French fries, white bread, processed ham and sausages. Oh, so he's dead now? Well, he's not dead, but he has lost vision. He has been hospitalized. Are you hearing this, Anya?
Starting point is 00:12:20 Yes. Firstly, it sounded all yum. That sounded like the ideal meal. Because you imagine as a kid, if every night was Pringles, sausages, ham. I understand because my niece has always been really fussy. And it gets to the point where you're like, oh, they've just got to eat something. You know? But did your parents never just say, you're not leaving this effing table until you've finished your peas?
Starting point is 00:12:44 I distinctly remember one night mum made corn fritters and she was so jazzed because she was like, you're not leaving this effing table until you've finished your peas. I distinctly remember one night mum made corn fritters and she was so jazzed because she was like, you'll love these. And I absolutely hated it. And then I remember dad being like, you're not leaving until you finish it. And then the next morning I still had to sit down at breakfast and try and eat this corn fritter. I still won't touch a corn fritter now. No, but see, they lost there.
Starting point is 00:13:01 They lost because you left before your corn fritter was finished. That was their fault. They should not have lost there. They lost because you left before your corn fritter was finished. That was their fault. They should not have lost. As a parent, you can never show weakness. In your defence though, was there relish with the corn fritter
Starting point is 00:13:11 because corn fritters are very dry. If you don't have a salsa, a sour cream or a relish, they're a bit yuck. I don't remember
Starting point is 00:13:20 a notable relish. That just says to me you've not had a decent corn fritter. Yeah, it shouldn't be dry. Yeah, it shouldn't be dry. No, it shouldn't be dry. Bacon in it? It should be moist.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Oh, bacon, yum. Bacon, a little bit of like maybe some... No, it should be moist, but sometimes they're very dry, aren't they? Some smashed spud? Yeah. Or smashed apple. Okay. We can get a bit bougie now.
Starting point is 00:13:35 On top now. So this kid, he's 14 years old, and he had a normal BMI, but he was really tired. The doctor said, you know, you need to maybe change your diet. Gave him B12 injections. A year later, he started losing his hearing and started losing his vision. So by 17, he had serious vision loss and they are putting it down to his diet. So he's got to 17 and he's still like not eating. That's pretty much a white diet. That's white bread, French fries, Pringles and processed ham.
Starting point is 00:14:10 And really processed and refined. Yeah. But it does sound yum though, doesn't it? Like for a drunken snack. Get home without dinner and that's all that's in the fridge. You get into it, don't you? From the ZM Think Tank, this is the top six. Hello there.
Starting point is 00:14:30 A phone was smuggled into a prison inside a kebab. Inside a kebab, I hear you say. Correct, yes. Inside a kebab. I don't know. You could take kebabs into prisons. I'm just looking at my iPhone. That's a wide kebab.
Starting point is 00:14:44 That would be the giveaway. It's a very wide. Unless it was a small burner phone. Kebab. Well, what happened was a man called Thomas, 19, bought in a kebab. Yeah. And he said to the police officer, my brother loves kebabs. Would you please be able to give this to my brother?
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah. And he was like, yeah, I can do that. But then he passed it to him and it wasn't, it wasn't, it was pretty obvious. It was, so there was a. Did not have any filling. You just poured a tortilla with it. Oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I think it just like felt like it had been unwrapped. You know, the minute you unwrap a tinfoil kebab. Oh, yeah. Good luck rewrapping that thing. Because they really wrap that tinfoil tight. Yeah. Just on a quick side note, when you eat a kebab and it's wrapped in tinfoil, you don't unwrap the entire kebab, eh?
Starting point is 00:15:31 No. No, good. You eat it, you take the top off the tinfoil and you peel it. I'll take half of it off. And you peel it down as you go. Yeah. Good, good. I saw someone completely unwrap a kebab and lay the tinfoil out flat once.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Oh, no. You're a monster. An absolute effing idiot. Yeah. You're going to wear that kebab. Yeah, that tinfoil out flat once. Oh no. You're a monster. An absolute effing idiot. Yeah. You're going to wear that kebab. Yeah. That's going to fall to bits. That thing was packed in there.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Monster. Absolutely ridiculous. Right. So today's top six, the top six foods to smuggle phones in. I have a question though. What happened to Thomas? He got caught. He's in trouble now.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Okay. Right. I hope their other brother tries to smuggle a phone into him and so forth. That's like a domino effect of people going to prison. Yeah. So the top six foods that you can smuggle a phone in. Number six. One of those family-sized mince and cheese pies.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Oh, that'd be easy. When was the last time you had one of those? Not since I lived at home when I was 16. What did your mum and dad team up with for family size pies? Mash. Yeah, always with potatoes.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Peas maybe. Mash. Yep. Yeah. Did you guys ever do the selling the pies for fundraising? Oh no,
Starting point is 00:16:40 I don't think we did pies. No, pizzas was a good one for fundraising. Oh yeah. Pizzas. Yep. Pizzas, Pizzas. Yeah. Pizzas, plastics, and pies.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Yeah. Those were the, remember plastics? You wouldn't do that these days, eh? Selling those, like, cups that you got to use, like, three times, and then they, like, fell to bits. They're like, do you want to buy a whole lot of future dolphin killers for just $3? Oh, the 90s. I know.
Starting point is 00:17:03 We were fast and loose with plastics. So fast and loose. Number five on the list of the top six foods to smuggle phones in. A subway footlong. Easy on the saucers. Oh, yeah, okay. Because they could totally get in there. They could work their way into the...
Starting point is 00:17:19 It would be the giveaway. Like, a phone is quite heavy. But if you've got a meatball sub, like subs range in weight quite a bit. Yeah, just say you've got extra meat, double meat. Yeah, and a meatball, so it's just like bulging at the seams. But again, that's a saucy meatball, so maybe not. Number four on the list of the top six foods to smuggle phones in, my mum's meatloaf. It's large, it's very thick and heavy, and it's very dry. Perfect
Starting point is 00:17:46 for keeping a phone in working condition. Yeah, it's not going to leak in your iPhone, is it? It may be the driest thing to ever be cooked in a crockpot. Right. Because, you know, like crockpots... Does she cook it in the crockpot? Yeah, she shapes the meatloaf, Megan. A round meatloaf. Is it a round meatloaf or is it still a log?
Starting point is 00:18:02 Is it like a cake shape? It's a log. It looks like a same sort of shape as a like a loaf of bread. Meatloaf. Right. She shapes it and then my slow cooker would come out like a rugby ball, an oval. No, she puts
Starting point is 00:18:17 she mixes it all up in a bowl and then she slops it in the crockpot and then it's in the crockpot that she does the shaping. Right. And then she turns on the crockpot and then it's in the crock pot that she does the shaping. Right. And then she turns on the crock pot and leaves it. Does it get like a nice crust? No. It's just like, no, it's the same.
Starting point is 00:18:38 It's literally the same texture from start to finish all the way through. Interesting. It's a good treat, but it's a little bit dry. You've got to take everything that falls off it and kind of source it back on. My mum famously loves another cooked piece of meat. She's a huge fan of a well-done piece of steak. Number three on the list of the top six foods to smuggle phones and soup. Hear me out.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Okay. Weigh it down in an airtight bag. Yep. Like you would dispose of a body in a river or a slow-running creek. Yeah. River. Lake.
Starting point is 00:19:06 And weigh it down and it'll go under and then put it in one of those big systemic containers. Yeah. And then be like, I bought some soup. Okay. No one's fingering the soup. No. No one's opening it and running a finger through a thick vegetable soup. They wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:19:22 With a bit of pork hock. Yeah. So they're like, that smells good. They might have a small taste, but they're not going to delve to the a thick vegetable soup. No, they wouldn't. With a bit of pork hock. Yeah. So they're like, that smells good. They might have a small taste, but they're not going to delve to the bottom of the soup. Number two on the list of the top six foods to smuggle phones in, a big-ass toasted sandwich. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Like we were talking about yesterday, the sealed toasted sandwiches. You wouldn't have a diagonal seal, though. You probably couldn't afford to. No, because it would squash your phone. It would be halfway through the phone, yeah. It's like Toastie Maker out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Well, if you've got a big Toastie Maker that could seal it. Maybe like a... A panini press, I think you're thinking a panini press. Yeah, but I want the outside sealed. Oh, I don't know if they do that, Vaughan. I think they all seal on a half. A Jaffel. A Jaffel.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yeah, maybe. Jaffel's like a bigger... Get a big Jaffel maker, you'll be absolutely sorted. Number one on the list of the top six foods to smuggle phones in, a cake that's shaped like a phone. They will not suspect that. That's nuts who would do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Right? You're not wrong. You lot get back to smuggling. That's today's top six. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Yesterday, on the gram, intern Anya, what movie did you go and see, by the way? I don't think I caught that. The Kitchen.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Elizabeth Moss, Melissa McCarthy. Now, what's this? Oh, it's based on a comic book. It's a DC comic, yeah. Oh, right. It's based on a comic book. Okay. About like three mobsters in New York.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Yeah, in Hell's Kitchen. In Hell's Kitchen. Oh, that's the kitchen. It's good. I thought it was a rom-com about people that worked in the kitchen. See, when I saw Melissa McCarthy, I thought it was going to be a little bit less violent. Right. But it's quite violent.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Was it violent? Yeah. Okay. Good work worth checking out, though. Yeah, that was a good watch. Okay. Now, this corresponds with you're on the keto buzz at the moment. Which is great because now you've got smellier farts than me.
Starting point is 00:21:09 So thanks for taking the heat on those. Blame Anya for those. 100%. So your movie snack choice was somewhat limited. You couldn't probably engage in anything from the snack bar. Tamari almonds? Could you do tamari almonds? Can you stop going on about tamari almonds, please?
Starting point is 00:21:26 Stop eating plain almonds. I'm eating almonds. I'm like, you must branch out to tamari almonds. They're delicious. It's the most boomer thing I've ever heard. You must try tamari almonds. She scoffed at tamari. Yeah, so this screening
Starting point is 00:21:41 was about one o'clock and I didn't hashtag meal prep, which was foolish on my part. But yeah, I got to the mall and I was looking around and I was like, there's nothing I can eat in this food court. Butter chicken, keto. A lot of sugar added to the butter chicken sauces there, Fletch. You are kidding me.
Starting point is 00:21:59 But you can't do rice on keto either, can you? No, no. So it's a bit of a sad time. Or a naan. Yeah, so went to the supermarket and got myself some sugar-free chocolate. But you can't do rice on keto either, can you? No, no. So it's a bit of a sad time. Or a naan. Yeah. So went to the supermarket and got myself some sugar-free chocolate, a vanilla Coke Zero. Sugar-free chocolate.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Yeah, it's delicious. But you can't have too much, as I learned yesterday. Because you poop. Yep. Sugar-free chocolate is not good for you, Anya. Oh, but it's keto. Is it? Yep. Sugar-free chocolate is not good for you, aren't you? Oh, but it's keto. Is it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:29 But it's got no sugar in it. It's got meth, but you're not supposed to do it on keto, are you? No. I don't know if it's... No, but she's talking about movie snacks. Yeah, okay. Yeah, just an occasional snack. Oh, I just would have thought the other thing you bought
Starting point is 00:22:41 would have taken care of all the snacking because the other item, along with the sugar-free everything else, was a... Just a bit of deli chicken. Just 100 grams, please. You took stanky chicken into a movie cinema. That is disgusting. So what I didn't put on my Insta story was that it was a tandoori smoked. Oh!
Starting point is 00:23:04 Yeah. Tandoori stanky chicken. It was delicious. Into a cinema. Yeah. But no, it was very nice and it was good protes and, you know, gave me great fuel to watch the movie. Were people around you, like, kind of screwing up their noses? Yeah, and because it was a midday screening, it was all, like, barrels
Starting point is 00:23:19 and Mavis's around me and I was just getting some real dark looks, but that's alright. I thought the barrels and Mavis's would have been right on board with a non-conventional movie snack from home. These were bougie though. They had like popcorn
Starting point is 00:23:31 and... Oh, they were bougie Mavis's. Yeah, right. Okay. Bougie barrels. Yeah, so... Look, I think it's
Starting point is 00:23:37 acceptable but the poll on Instagram tells me otherwise. You can't take anything that smells. Yeah. And that has... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:44 What were your poll results? On my personal Instagram poll, everyone was like, yeah, get it girl. And then on the Fletch, Fawn and Megan Instagram one,
Starting point is 00:23:51 80% of people have told me how grim I am. So I think my friends are all just real grim. Yeah. Yeah. Very grim. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Your friends wanted to support you, but everybody else was just letting you know the harsh truth of it. Turns out your friends are lying to you as well. What's next? What have you got lined up
Starting point is 00:24:08 for the next movie snack? I might do like a beef jerky perhaps. Or like some salami. Or I could do like an antipasto. Salami. Salami wouldn't smell as much as a tandoori deli chicken. I think you'd be surprised. You can always get a whiff of salami, yeah. But because when you're eating it, it's already close
Starting point is 00:24:24 but I'd say that peppery scent would... What about the mussels from the seafood section of the supermarket? Could you imagine if someone brought seafood into the movies? No way. Take a little gas cooker and boil them up just till they crack open. Get a bit of Thousand Island sauce on there. Bring in your steamed fish and its tinfoil. Yeah, we're pushing it too far now.
Starting point is 00:24:45 We're pushing the boat right out. But why not take some calls this morning on what you've seen or maybe what you've taken yourself as a movie snack? Yeah, when you've been in the movies and you've had to witness or smell someone assault you like Anya with some smelly food. Did somebody have a butter chicken? A takeaway curry
Starting point is 00:25:06 from the food court? I bet it happens. Oh, 100%. I bet it happens. I've taken a curry into a... And then I finished and I was like, well, that was flawless
Starting point is 00:25:13 and then the lights came on and I was like, it was flawless. I'm covered in curry. Are you about to say KFC? Yeah. I've been in a cinema with people who had KFC.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Or fish and chips. That's just not fair though because everyone's just like, yum, there's a chip. All right, well, 0800DARLS.AM 9696. What is a non-conventional movie snack that you have either engaged in or seen Bambu eating? All right, give us a call. Post Malone.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Unconventional movie snacks is what we're talking, because intern Anya yesterday took a few hundred grams of deli chicken. Tandoori deli chicken at that. Yeah, we've learnt Tandoori flavoured deli chicken into the movies. I don't think any meats, warm or cold, should be taken into the movies. No, too smelly. Not even a Subway. Like, you still get in a whiff of that.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Especially when it's enclosed and then it gets opened. Yeah, it should be processed foods only. Like, there are some movie places, and they do this in America. I've been to the movies in America. You can get nachos and stuff. And it's weird. And then they squeeze that. Being in the movies and you can smell hot dogs and nachos.
Starting point is 00:26:15 With runny cheese on it. Yeah. Yeah. That's weird. Somebody sent some text messages in. We took a sushi platter into the movies as it was a kid's birthday. Oh. And we thought for movie snacks we'd just take a sushi platter into the movies it was a kid's birthday oh and we thought for movie snacks we'd just take a sushi platter and which was weird because they kept coming down in the movie and be like where's the sushi platter you've got a platter yeah you need to like
Starting point is 00:26:37 individually give out like trays yeah but then environmentally you know the sushi i see a lot of places that of that of that crinkle plastic being used for sushi trays, so maybe the platter was a reusable option. And those little soy fish that the soy sauce comes in. Those aren't good, are they? Those aren't good. I'll tip my hat to Fletcher, when you get sushi outside of work
Starting point is 00:26:58 and you bring it back to work, rather than get the soy fish, you'll just grab the soy sauce off the table in the sushi place and pour it on. That's not an ecological choice, though. That's because they don't give you enough soy sauce and they want to charge you 10 cents for another fish. A soy fish. I would have just let it wash over as you doing your part for the future. Had there been like a soy fish.
Starting point is 00:27:20 A larger soy fish. Like a larger one. For free. I'd take a couple. Yeah, if they were free, I would have taken five of them. Just take a plate from work too. It's literally just next door. Just take a plate, please.
Starting point is 00:27:31 That's not a bad idea, actually. Good morning, Tema. Yeah. What did you take to the movies as a snack? Hi. So me and my friend were going to the movies and we were really hungry before we had, before the movie started so we ordered some fried chicken and chips okay and then we were worried we were going to miss
Starting point is 00:27:51 the beginning of the movie so we just shoved the big paper back in my bag and took it in with us and sat at the back with our fried chicken and chips oh no and when people looking around like what are you doing no not really we sat at the back and we were kind of really discreet about it. Okay. But it was a bit noisy with the paper wrapper and everything. Yeah, and then did you wipe your hands on the seat? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Because you've got crazy hands, of course. That's yuck for two reasons. You're yucking up that seat, but also that seat would have been yuck to wipe your hands on in the first place. Thanks, you're cool, Gemma. Simon, what did you take to the movies as a snack? No, it wasn't me. It was the guy next to me. So you know the cans of tuna that you can buy in the free pack? Oh, yuck. Really?
Starting point is 00:28:37 Simon. Yeah, so he had three of them throughout the whole movie, along with his garlic, honey and Palmer's crackers. Get better snacks too, like that's yuck. And was it one of those movies where it was allocated seating, so was he literally in the seat next to you? Yeah, right next to me, yeah, that's the one. That is outrageous. I would have said something or moved. Could you have moved,
Starting point is 00:29:01 or were there no seats? No, it was like a premiere screening so everything was enough for me. Oh God, eat them before. Simon, thanks. Ro, what did you take for snacks to the movies? We took teriyaki
Starting point is 00:29:17 salmon, like homemade. Yes. It was in plastic bags and everything so all the rustling was made and then we popped open the lids and the ladies in front of us went through and pressed there was our fishy smells
Starting point is 00:29:32 coming from our food. It's very stanky. Yeah. Would you do that again looking back on that? Nah, we got the meanest look from these people and I was like,
Starting point is 00:29:43 babe, I don't think we should have done that. He's like, yeah, you're probably not. I don't care. It tasted good. Yeah, it sounds delicious. Don't get me wrong. How are you eating it? You need a fork.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Yeah, we bought a fork. Of course, I mean, they took a whole plate of salmon. And the people at the movies get upset when I buy a bag of Maltesers from the supermarket to save $2. They should be checking for the salmon. Rue, thanks for your call, mate. Some text messages. I got stuck next to a Muppet who brought a bag of apples into the movies. Churred with the mouth open.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Thought that was a good idea. I said, can you please stop that? It's really loud and really disgusting. And she didn't. She had about four apples. I ended up leaving the movies. Oh. Couldn't move?
Starting point is 00:30:28 Because after one apple, you're like, no one's got more than one apple. And then she ate four apples. Oh, God. When I was younger, I took a jar of pickled onions and a tin of peaches and a small backpack with a can opener and a fork. My friend was so embarrassed. You would be. What?
Starting point is 00:30:47 Tuna pickles. What? Could they not get popcorn? I love eating a tin of peaches. Yeah, don't get me wrong, but not at the movies. No, you're right there. It's not movie food. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Somebody else said, I'm glad I'm not the only person that's taken sushi, but it was tuna was the sushi of the day. Somebody else said, oh, I'm glad I'm not the only person that's taken sushi. But it was tuna was the sushi of the day. Very pungent odor. In South Korea, dried squid and octopus balls are a cinema favorite. You can get a shrimp sprinkle on your popcorn. Literally the entire cinema smells like a fish market by the end of it.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Yeah. No, it's not. This is making you feel a little less manky, Anya? Feeling a little better after hearing all of these? Yeah, much better. And somebody else said the family in front of them, they almost took up the entire row, and they had shopping bags.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Yeah. And in the shopping bags, they had hot chickens, buns buns and coleslaw tubs to make your own little chicken buns that's 100% a picnic food I sure hope this pre-recorded
Starting point is 00:31:52 laughing isn't after something inappropriate to laugh at but I just want to take a moment to say thanks to Spark for sponsoring the Fletch, Vaughan
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Starting point is 00:32:10 And yesterday, who's going to be on tonight is Glenn Robbins, who you probably know best as Kel Knight from Kath & Kim. He sent me this weird text, Kat. I think he reckons we still owe him 44 euros why isn't it your job to check everything marion yes yes it is why didn't you know yes cal day night cal day night from kath and kent brilliant and i love that that's getting a resurgence on because uh kath and kim's on netflix now and people are re-watching it and people are watching it for the first time because they might not have been old enough to watch it.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Yeah, the first time around. So great. Russell Coit was another character. Oh, he did the Outback Adventures. Yeah. And prior to that, I remember when I was a kid, the Australian sketch show, and he played a character called Uncle Arthur.
Starting point is 00:32:59 And it was just this bumbling old man. And I don't know why, but as a kid, I re-watched some clips recently on YouTube. Yeah. And I was like, there's no way I understood this human as a kid, but I think I just liked the whole aspect of it. He's a lovable character. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Like around, and then when they said, oh, next week he's going to be on the show, I was a bit like, oh my gosh. It's going to be. Eric Kirsch and Clarissa, Kelton Head, Russell Coog. And so you're always a little bit worried about meeting people like that. Like they say, don't meet your heroes because what if they don't live up to what you're hoping? What if he'd turned up and he'd just been an absolute a-hole? It would have been pretty disappointing.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah, but he wasn't. Nicest guy. Oh, that's nice. The nicest guy. Did you ask about Kath and Kim? I didn't ask. Did you ask him to do anything? No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:33:46 I didn't ask him to do anything. Because he kind of led with the story about how everyone asks him to do the walk. You know, the famous like cowl. Yeah, and they go power walking. They go power walking. He had that real like hip moment. Like on the flight over, apparently the Qantas flight attendants asked him if he'd do it down the aisle. Bear in mind, Kath and Kim came out in 2002.
Starting point is 00:34:09 The first episode was in 2002. And he's still getting asked to do that. Oh, yeah. Well, when did it end? It ran for quite a few seasons, eh? And then there was a movie. It had Christmas specials and everything. And as you say, now it's on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:34:23 But he's a very funny man. And yeah, he's on the show tonight. Did he give you like any words of wisdom? Did you let him know that he was like somewhat of a hero of yours? No, I said that. Because you got a photo. I said you put a photo on Facebook. As soon as you like, because you don't ask, who was it?
Starting point is 00:34:41 The Wiggles and who else? I've seen you ask for like two photos ever. Yeah. So when you get a photo with someone, yeah. You're nuts, big deal. Like it was really weird. I was like,
Starting point is 00:34:50 I've got to go home because I've got to get up early. And I was like, all right, well I'm off. And then I had my phone and I was like, just getting the camera ready. You know, you get your camera ready.
Starting point is 00:34:58 You're like, oh, I'm going to put the flash on auto because I don't want to have to ask again because of bad lighting. That all seems. I was like, and just before I go, would it be okay if I had a photo? But then that started the landslide of everyone else on the show.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Oh, well, should we get a group one and I'll get one and I'll get one? Yeah, right. Super nice guy. He was waiting for it, surely. Really, really funny. Okay. And had some good stories. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Well, you can see him and the whole lineup tonight. Yeah, Ray O'Leary and Mel Bracewell, Ursula and myself and Hayley Spurrow hosting. Have you been paying attention tonight? 7.30. TVNZ. TVNZ2. We call it TVNZ2 now.
Starting point is 00:35:31 You should know that you work there. TV2. Haven't called it TVNZ, TV2 since like they had Anthony Ray in that bus that went around.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Guess who's coming for dinner? Yeah. No. No, we're just talking about the buy the TV2 bus. Yeah, no, that bus, remember? The promo. I only want to be with two. Oh, it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Well, today, the 4th of September, 2019, 111 days, 16 hours and 20 minutes until Christmas. And we're counting down and the only way we know how we're shock and awe at how Christmas is sneaking in. Um, Vaughan I can give you a report first hand.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Please. I went to the new mall. Oh yeah. The new market mall. It's only half the shops or a quarter of the shops. I know exactly what you're going to say. They've got a Christmas shop. The Newmarket Mall. It's only half the shops or a quarter of the shops. I know exactly what you're going to say. They've got a Christmas shop. The Christmas Heirloom Company or whatever they're called. But is that there all year round?
Starting point is 00:36:32 No, I believe they're just in there until Christmas. My God. What do they do with that shop in the seasons? Do they do pop-ups? Yeah, I think they just pop up in kind of vacant shops or get little leases for a few months. Right, like the Valentine's heirloom company, the Easter heirloom company.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Yep. Got a long spell there. Halloween, but then Halloween and Christmas. You'd be doing Halloween now, wouldn't you, before you do Christmas. But yeah, I saw that too. They're going to lose that sweet retail space, aren't they, come January?
Starting point is 00:37:04 You're not right having it there? That's absolutely crazy. But that was a real shock. That was like, oh, okay, Christmas is close. Confronting. Were they playing? Because I didn't walk past it. Were they playing Christmas music?
Starting point is 00:37:14 No, I didn't hear. Good God. I don't think so. Monsters. Good God. Next up, Ashley messages the show. She said, it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas at Pack and Save in New Plymouth. The first spotting of Christmas mince tarts. Oh, yummy.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Mum would have noticed size. She's a pack and saver. Popping in a pack of four at the moment, because generally they come in six up. Okay. But at the moment, it's just a pack of four, but they're actually identified as Christmas mince tarts. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Not just, you'll see them other times of the year, just labelled other things, mince tarts. Right. Not just, you'll see them other times of the year, just labelled other things, mince tarts. Right. Et cetera, et cetera. Other reports of Christmas have been, they've just been flowing in from everybody. Next one is a post from Councillor Dion Swiggs. Swigzy.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Swigzy. Yeah, yeah, Swigzy. Swigzy. He says, Coca-Cola Christmas in the Park will be on the 30th of November this year. Yep, Christmas is now on the horizon. Quote, on the horizon. Notifications now being prepared for the proposed road closures and then names where the roads will be closed.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Right. Rain Day contingency is proposed for Sunday the 1st of December and then proposes the road closures for closed. Right. Rain day contingency is proposed for Sunday the 1st of December. And then proposes the road closures for that. Right. So Christmas in the park's kind of been talked about. Okay. Scary. I want that to be in your mind as we...
Starting point is 00:38:35 Get your hampers ready. I wouldn't say get your hampers ready. Your ham will be off. Okay, sure. Your hot chicken will be rotten. Yeah, when do you get those on the day? Do you get those things on the day? The Allersley Village Facebook page has added their event.
Starting point is 00:38:49 They'll be having the Allersley Santa Parade down the main highway in Allersley on the Sunday the 1st of December. Right. See, these are only like two and a half months away. Your hometown's Christmas parade, Megan, was in the news this week. Nelson. Yeah. Do you remember last year there was a kerfuffle
Starting point is 00:39:05 because there was a mouldy Santa. Correct. And people were like, oh, shock. Everyone stepped down from that. Everyone stepped away from the running of it. So they need new, so I don't know if your dad wants to run a Santa parade, but their positions are open, I believe.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Well, they stepped away because of the controversy. I think they stepped down because of the... The controversy. I think they tripped down because of the controversy, yeah. So they're looking for people to run. You know what? I hope no one steps up. Yeah. And I hope they have no Santa parade.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Oh, but what about the kids? What about the kids? The kids have got to learn that when their parents are mouthing off about this sort of stuff... What was in that Santa parade? Don't tell me a kid on their own device would decide that a Maldi Santa was the wrong thing. They'd hear it from somewhere.
Starting point is 00:39:44 They've got to learn that when their parents mouth off but don't step up to do a better alternative, they miss out. Yeah, but it's sad when the kids miss out.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Whatever. Like you care about kids missing out on anything. God, I hate that Santa parade. It finishes outside my apartment.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Have you ever been in a Santa parade? Um, no. I've been in like six. As a stilt walker? A couple as a stilt walker I'm a couple as a stilt walker and one as a clown
Starting point is 00:40:07 another for like radio stations and like I've been in there just helping out with costumes you're so festive I love Christmas you should be in the Santa Parade well maybe it's time you pop down to Spotlight as Rohan's been in touch with the show and see Christmas fabrics are in store
Starting point is 00:40:23 in there in their multitudes. Get in because you don't want someone else nabbing your favorite Christmas fabric. Oh, no, not if you've got one in mind. Not if you've got one in mind, you'd be absolutely distraught. Is this for like stockings or something? To have missed out on that. I guess so, yeah. I mean, pajama Christmas pajamas.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Oh, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. The fabric looked very pajama friendly. Yeah, okay. Looked flannel-y, but you'd absolutely sweat yourself to bits. Not if you make pajama shorts. It looked flannel-y, but you absolutely sweat yourself to bits. Not if you make pyjama shorts. Make shorties. Shorty charms. But you want cotton, not flannel there.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Sweaty balls. Well, I'd like to see the fabric before I judge. Sweaty gooch, the whole sweaty situation. So with all of that in mind and 111 days away from Christmas. Right now, Christmas penetration is at... 18%. Ooh, it is beginning to look a lot like Christmas. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I don't know the latest number on how many measles cases there are in Auckland, but it's... 970. A few in New Plymouth as well. There have been a few cases there as well. It's pretty horrible. So the rule of thumb that I've read is for about every 1,000 measles cases, there's a death.
Starting point is 00:41:32 So we're approaching that horrible number. And there are a couple of kids, I believe, in Starship or in hospitals that are critical, like fighting for their lives. So vaccination is very important. But also yesterday in the news, a doctor coming out to say it's not just anti-vaxxers and maybe those that have slipped through the cracks. It's also adults.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Some adults just weren't vaccinated. They don't know their immunisation status. And on that, I did read that if you are worried, if you're like parents can't remember or they don't think so, it's not going to hurt if you are vaccinated to get another one. To get a booster.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Get the booster situation. But, vaccinations are running low and there are also young, you know, there are kids that need those. That need them. Yeah. It's best to try to find out. It's scary as well to have friends that have young babies that can't be vaccinated yet because they don't want to leave the house. It's like Clint from the
Starting point is 00:42:21 Afternoon Show. He's got a brand new baby too. And like, you can't get immunised. They're pushing it. They're actually bringing it the vaccination schedule ahead in some areas where it is a problem. Yeah. But still, she's months off being able to do that. So where can you take her in public in Auckland? Oh, yeah, exactly. That's so
Starting point is 00:42:38 scary. And then you said about kids in Starship with measles. So there's kids in Starship that have had childhood cancers and their immune systems are at zero due to the treatment they've been receiving. Is it fair what they're already going through to expose them to extra risk with measles and stuff just because you believe a paper
Starting point is 00:42:56 which has scientifically been proven wrong so many times about the links between the MMR vaccine and autism? I would say not. But I just wanted to make sure the show was immunised, so I got in touch with Fletcher's mum. I said, Bev, was he vaccinated? And she said, he sure was. I'm glad you did this because...
Starting point is 00:43:14 You were worried yesterday. Well, because I remember as a kid having mums, and I got adult chickenpox. They couldn't vaccinate against chickenpox back in the day, but they can now. I got that six or seven years ago. So I was like, well, mum, was I even vaccinated? Like, what were you doing?
Starting point is 00:43:30 You were vaccinated for measles. You might have just been, and just before they added that other M, which was mumps. Right, okay. To the vaccination schedule. Look at your plunket book here. This was just after your first birthday.
Starting point is 00:43:44 So the plunket books where your parents would take you to plunket book here. This was just after your first birthday. So what, the plunket books where your parents would take you to plunket and they weigh you and stuff, eh? Yeah, yeah, they weigh you, they measure you.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Developments. Check on developmental bits and pieces. Did you still do that for Indy in August? Yep, yep. Is it still a thing? Yeah, it's like vitally important. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:44:00 It's quite good. They can monitor, you know, kids can do things and such. Right. So, date, age, weight. Little fatty, but that's okay. Does it say that?
Starting point is 00:44:10 No, it doesn't. Does it say little fatty? Oh, I was going to say that's quite rude. It says a lovely sociable one-year-old baby. Goes into your length, your head, your chest, your fontanelle. It says that you had a dimple on your fontanelle at that stage. What's my fontanelle? That's the soft bit in the middle of your head. You had a dimple On your fontanelle What's my fontanelle? That's the soft bit
Starting point is 00:44:25 In the middle of your head You had a dimple On the top of it Nah that's all That's filled in Yeah I can say on a later in That's closed Later in the piece
Starting point is 00:44:32 Yes Closed case My fontanelle closed over Who was fingering your fontanelle? Began walking No one thankfully Began walking at 11 months Is that good?
Starting point is 00:44:40 Walking? Yep You had 8 teeth And you attempted to feed yourself I still attempt to feed yourself. I still attempt to feed myself way too many times a day. Motions. They check the hips.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Yes. My hips don't lie. Skin. Yes. What? That I have skin. That it's there and it moves. Testes.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And then there's two downward arrows indicating that both your balls had presented themselves. Did I have a penis? No word on the penis. No word on the penis. Not yet. No word on the penis. Dammit. Excellent first year's progress. One breastfeeding a day and cup drinking, and you apparently used the potty.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Is that good? Is that advanced? That's pretty young to be sitting on the pot. Good. It says you were travelling to Britain. The next... You know, my mum took me to Britain, to England to see my grandparents.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Yeah, and I don't remember it. This is why... You've got mad cow disease. That's why you can't bloody give blood. Maybe. So then a few months later you went again. You were described as a very active, friendly child who understood commands.
Starting point is 00:45:39 You understood them. It doesn't say you necessarily followed them. Travelled well on holiday. You got an air infection that was treated with antibiotics. So you were probably one of those kids screaming on the plane because it got sore ears, ironically. Now you hate that so much. Well, don't take kids on a plane. I don't remember
Starting point is 00:45:54 any of Britain. So there was no point in taking me. You were then at 18 months described as a delightful little boy, cooperative and happy. Where did that all go wrong? I don't know. Tends to use the right hand and can build a tower of blocks up to six. Boy, build a tower.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Well, good. Is six good? Six blocks. Eats very well. Nothing's changed there. Good sleeping habits. Yeah. Toilet training needs to be encouraged.
Starting point is 00:46:24 So then you were using the potty a year. Six months later, you're... I'm a slow learner. Slow learner. Then we go ahead another few months. You're becoming quite independent now. Yeah. The Plunkett nurse suggests you enroll at a play group for social skills.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Oh, this is where it starts to go downhill. Off the rail. Because independent doesn't deal well with others. Off the rail. Needs to be socialized, just like a little dog. So then again, July, you've just turned two. Okay. You run, you jump, you climb, you're full of energy.
Starting point is 00:46:53 This is good. You build another block tower. How many this time? How many? Only six. Oh, you haven't... That actually, this was... Oh no, because this was when you lived in Wellington.
Starting point is 00:47:03 I was going to say New Plymouth, Plunkett might have only had six blocks. Well, to be fair, it was windy in Wellington. You don't want to build too high in Wellington. No, and earthquakes. An earthquake, that block tower. Still trying on the potty. Oh, okay. Zubik claims that one, that he was using it,
Starting point is 00:47:21 and a year later he's not really. That's not for me. Why wasn't mum lying to them? Just saying he's great on the potty. You're speaking well. You're starting to join words together. Brilliant. You've learnt colours and you enjoy to sing to music.
Starting point is 00:47:35 What? I don't. We don't get that. I don't. I do not like to sing to music. And then just before you turn three, you're described as a bright and well cooperative wee boy whose toilet
Starting point is 00:47:47 training is going okay. Wow. And that you're moving to New Plymouth. Oh, right. That says that you're moving to New Plymouth just after. And they wash their blanket, washes their hands of me at that stage. Yeah, yeah. Okay, great. Two vaccinations against measles.
Starting point is 00:48:07 That's great news. Great to know. You've got the measles vaccine. Okay. You're good to go, baby. Do we get to do Megan next? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't think that's necessary.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Are you reaching out to Ray? I've reached out. Connections have been made. Or she said she'll send me a few pages of the highlights. Oh, Christ. Well, I've always been good at the toilet. Alright, well, tune in tomorrow to see if Megan can build a tower more than six blocks.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Am I a bad person? Okay. Okay. It's a divisive one this morning. I think Vaughn and I just both can't believe someone would even want to raise this issue. So, it's a millennial issue, I would say.
Starting point is 00:48:46 It's kind of... It's going to be one that not everyone understands. But let's try and... Okay. Treat it with... Some dignity and respect. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Some dignity and respect. Just be respectful. Okay. The person behind it. Hey guys, I hope this doesn't sound too silly, but I need your help with something. I mean, they're pretty consistent with something. Sorry, dignity and respect.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Carry on. For a while now, I've noticed that one of my really good friends doesn't like any of my photos on Instagram. I don't know if I've done something to upset her. I see her liking and commenting on all our other friends' photos, but never mind.
Starting point is 00:49:24 This really upsets me, and I kind of want to ask her about it. Am I a bad person for being upset about this? It sounds to me like someone's been muted on stories and posts. Do they have a baby? You can't mute your good friend. Can you, Fletch? If they have a baby, you can. That's a good friend of ours had a baby the other day, and he's like, sorry about the spam. And I was like, Fletch will have they have a baby, you can. That's a good friend of ours had a baby the other day
Starting point is 00:49:45 and he's like, sorry about the spam. And I was like, Fletch will have already hidden you. I'm about to. I give them a couple of weeks. Did you ever mute Vaughn though? I think I did for a little bit on Facebook. Because it was every day. It's like, oh my God, we made this little human.
Starting point is 00:49:59 It's like, oh God, not the first to do this. I'll just refer back to your plunker block. When you were also a small human. What is a social delightful little boy cooperative and happy? Wahapang. Wahapang. Wahapang. Okay, so say my best friend Ellie,
Starting point is 00:50:19 if I noticed that she was not liking or commenting on any photos for ages, I'd be like... You'd be like, something's up. Something's up. Because you do. You like all your friends' photos, right? Even if it's a rubbish photo, you give them a like, right? It's not about like, I don't have to like. So if one of your good friends is completely ignoring you on social media, you'd be like...
Starting point is 00:50:40 Right. Okay. So she wants to know, is she a bad person? Because it upsets her. But has she talked to her about it? How do you bring that up with a bad person? Do you remember when Vaughn used to like my ex-husband's photos on Instagram and you didn't like mine?
Starting point is 00:50:56 I would go through it and be like, Vaughn Smith liked this. I was like, I'm not. But he was like fighting mooses and stuff. You put up pictures of like a new lipstick and your ex-husband was in like the Canadian wilderness. Yeah. He was living like a mountain man. And then I brought it up with you because that upset me.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Yeah. You were like, oh, am I on my own? But I honestly hadn't even thought about it. I know. But see, I kind of understand where this person's coming from. I wouldn't even notice who I know that likes my photos or not. I don't really even think about. You wouldn't notice.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Yeah, but you don't really care about that. Nah. Whereas some people do. And that's just if you're good friends, you know. Enjoy it for how you enjoy it and your memory. That's the new age silent treatment. You're getting silent treatment. Yeah, you are, you are.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Let's go to the producers both. What are we thinking there? Caitlin, what do you think? If this had been your best friend, had stopped liking all photos on Instagram, how would you... I honestly just feel quite sad that this is like... I feel sad that she's getting
Starting point is 00:51:57 upset by that. Like, why doesn't she just go and talk to her? Well, she wants to. Imagine that conversation. It's so ridiculous. But why is it? I don't know why it's upsetting you so much. But yeah, she's one of her best friends. No, but yeah, one of her good friends. But like, is she still talking to her on text? Like, because that's what,
Starting point is 00:52:13 like if they're still talking, then maybe she's just not seeing your posts or something. Yeah. Anya, what do you think? I kind of see where she's coming from. Like if you have, say, like a big life event, I don't know, say you got engaged or whatever, and one of your best friends just doesn't really acknowledge it
Starting point is 00:52:28 on social media, I feel like in this day and age that's kind of a thing. It is a big engagement, maybe it's a bit of jealousy. Yeah, but something along those lines, you know what I mean? Like to just not say anything
Starting point is 00:52:38 or to not like it is a bit weird. You're right, I think you're right. It is the new age silent treatment, isn't it? James, you post once every two years on Instagram. How would you feel if you finally put a post up
Starting point is 00:52:49 and your best friend didn't like it? Yeah, that's a hard one. I understand the supportive side of things, like liking something that's not like your friend or something. Maybe it's a jealousy thing, like she doesn't like that she's succeeding. Yeah, there's some issue. Or something like that. Maybe it's a jealousy thing. Like she doesn't like that she's succeeding. Yeah, there's some issue. Or something like that.
Starting point is 00:53:06 There's some issue here. Like is her Instagram full of like amazing travel photos or? Don't use that as a, that's BS, Vaughn. That doesn't, that's not an excuse.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Well, I didn't say that was flesh. No, I'm meaning. I don't know who's who. I listened to them and they both sound the same. No, I'm meaning when you did it to my ex-husband.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Oh, God, I thought we'd moved on. Megan, let it go. Move on. I have not let go. All right, well, this is where we take your... You still tell me what... It was a year ago, David. Did you see your ex-husband?
Starting point is 00:53:37 He was up a mountain there. I don't care. He's still doing amazing photos, by the way. Great. He's already doing the other days. Set life. Good stuff. This is where we take your calls.
Starting point is 00:53:45 What do you think of this? Is she a bad person? Do you think it's silly? Have you been in the situation where you have had a best friend that's not liking any of your stuff on Facebook or Instagram? Social silent treatment. Yeah, and is she a bad person? Have you been in the situation?
Starting point is 00:54:02 I'll 800-DONALDZ at him right now. You can text as well, 9696. Are you just going through? But look at that, Megan. He's up on a bloody mountain. Like, if that was you, you'd be 90% of that photo and there'd be a lake, like, blurry in the background. I put a cute pink hair selfie up the other day.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Yeah, I'm a minute to talk to you about that. Am I a bad person? So. Yeah, it's an interesting one today. Someone has messaged in saying that she's noticed one of her really good friends doesn't like any of their photos on Instagram. They don't know if they've done something to upset her, but they're liking commenting on all their other friends' posts.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Right. Is she a bad person for being upset about this? And what should she do about it? It sounds to me like they've been muted on stories and posts. It does sound like if they're not liking anything, maybe they have been, but they said one of their good friends. So why would you mute one of your good friends? I don't understand a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Well, when they have babies is the only... When they have a kid, you've got to mute them. Have they started selling like Isagenix or something? Oh, mate, I don't know. Oh, yes, that's another one. There's that. Like if they've been involved in a Pyramids game. Or multi-level marketing. Yeah marketing of any of those products.
Starting point is 00:55:08 So we want to know from you if you've been in this situation and if you think they're a bad person. Michaela, what do you think? I am that person that doesn't like the Instagram post. Okay, so for example, you've got your good friends. They put up an Instagram photo. Why don't you like it? Well, it's not so much like the photos themselves. Okay, so for example, you've got your good friends, they put up an Instagram photo. Why don't you like it?
Starting point is 00:55:32 Well, it's not so much like the photos themselves, it's more or less the stories that people put up. So a really, really good friend of mine, we're really close outside of social media. But she is an ambassador for a really small, like for a small company, a beauty company. And I'm not a beauty fan. I don't really follow those sorts of businesses and that thing, that sort of stuff. So it doesn't interest me. And he noticed that I wasn't following or watching his stories because it tells you who's been watching them, like you can go in to find out. And so she asked me about it and I just told her it was boring,
Starting point is 00:56:07 and I didn't want to bother her. Unless you're honest. How did she take that? She found it kind of like, oh, okay, like there are a few people on my social media that don't want to see this all the time. So she kind of toned it down a little bit. And, like, some of her posts,
Starting point is 00:56:25 like, they're really like highly focused on like gratitude of life and all of that, which I'm really down for. So of course I'll go and like those ones,
Starting point is 00:56:32 but when she's like promoting the business, I'm like, yeah, no. Okay, you're hard with your likes, aren't you? Tough, I like it.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Alright, thanks you cool, Michaela. Anonymous. Oh, good morning, Kate. Good morning. Is she a bad person? No, she's not a bad person. She's just human because I can relate.
Starting point is 00:56:50 I'm in the same situation. My sister is my best friend. She just doesn't like any of my posts. And we live far away from each other. And when I post positive things, I certainly catch up. She doesn't like them or she won't comment on any really productive things but yet she's liking my brother's things and I can't help but feel it's a bit of jealousy yeah that's a weird one yeah it is weird and it really hurts
Starting point is 00:57:18 me because I'm like hey you're liking our brothers why don't you like mine? She used to. She used to always be the first one to like or to stick up for me if I, like, hit on her heated arguments on social media. But, hey, don't talk to my sister. La, la, la. Have you said anything to her? No, it's awkward. Yeah, I don't know how to approach it. Does it make you think you need to step away from social media?
Starting point is 00:57:44 Yeah. Because it seems Does it make you think you need to step away from social media? Yeah. It seems to be bothering you so much that it's maybe going to start affecting your real life relationship with your sister. Does it make you feel like you've got to put less importance on social media and step away from it? Ooh, that's a tricky one. That's kind of what I'm getting.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Everybody that's texting in saying this as well, every one of them, I think if you are hearing somebody else say that, even you might say maybe it's just time to step away. Thanks, you cool anonymous. Ange, what do you think? Is she a bad person? Oh, no, she's not.
Starting point is 00:58:14 I'm actually in the same boat as a nominist. I have a sister who lives over the ditch, and she doesn't comment on anything that I post. No likes, no nothing. She even snubbed my wedding. Oh, okay. So this is a bigger problem than just Facebook likes, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:58:31 Yeah, and she's got a best friend that she'll comment, she'll post, and she'll like. But if I do anything positive in my life, there's just no likes, no comments. So I'm at that stage where I'm like, hey, we're sisters. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:58:47 But yet you'll comment on everybody else's. So I'm in a similar boat right now. Wow, okay. It is quite upset by it, aren't they? Some text messages. My best friend literally broke up with me because I didn't like her Christmas break with her boyfriend pictures on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:59:02 I was on holiday with my family. Facebook isn't real life. I'm hating how much social media is dominating every aspect of everybody's life. This stuff should not be so important. I deleted Facebook a few months ago and I won't get it back. I just feel like my mental health
Starting point is 00:59:16 is so much better since then because I just don't worry about it. I knew yesterday that Facebook are thinking of following the Instagram hiding of the likes. Yeah, it's probably for the best. If we can do it on Instagram, we can do it on Facebook, right? I watched that Netflix doco about the Cambridge Analytica.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Oh, yeah. That's some scary stuff. Really? Some scary stuff. Last call. Nicole, is she a bad person? I don't think she's a bad person, but I feel really disappointed that there are people that place so much value
Starting point is 00:59:46 on social media likes and social media attention and things like that like I this is kind of the sort of thing that has led to the likes of our entitlement epidemic and the millennial kind of viewpoint and I'm not getting at them in any way for that but I just find it really sad and disappointing that that's the way that our world has become, that we don't value the face to face as much as we value the social media and the online. Like, I'm definitely the sort of person that I'm like, you know, occasionally I'll like, personally, I spend hardly any time on Instagram specifically. But it's, you know, I'm not, I don't take it as like, I'm not going to like that because I'm getting snarky at you
Starting point is 01:00:26 and I'm just going to do it silently. Like if I don't like it, it's because I probably had a busy week and haven't been on there or I've only jumped on Facebook to look at dance events or things like that. Yeah. And I'm just not placing that amount of value. So that's what I find really disappointing that this anonymous person has placed that much value on someone liking a photo online, you know?
Starting point is 01:00:53 Yeah. But have you ever put up an Instagram and you've been like, God, this gets lots of likes. It's a great photo. To be honest, not Nicole has done that. This is going to harm. We need to learn from Nicole. Hey, I've got a prize for you, Nicole, from themarket.com. I've got, it's actually a cute, very nice coat, which is worth $392. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:01:15 All right, get a photo. I didn't do it for attention, by the way. Yeah, right, get a photo of that on the gram. And if you want to win, I've actually got a wish list. It's valued at $4,000 if you would like to win this wish list from themarket.com.
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Starting point is 01:01:37 for the day. Give it a rest. Take the day off. You need it. It's time for The Fact of the Day. Day, day, day, day. Today's Fact of the Day is about monarch butterflies.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Oh, okay. Probably the most recognisable butterfly, you would say. Megan's scared of butterflies. Yeah. Remember that time we went to the inside... The spiders with wings. Yeah. The Dunedin Butterfly-etarium.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Yeah, I forget what it's called, but... No, didn't we go to Butterfly Creek? Oh, we haven't. I don't think we've been to Butterfly Creek. I know, I haven't been to Butterfly Creek with you. Oh, no, I went there with other people. Well, they just love dragging you places with these butterflies. Just run through that enclosure.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Yeah, Megan's like swatting them all dead. It's like, Megan, don't kill the butterflies. No, I don't want them dead. I just don't want them around me at all. But monarchs are pretty. They are very pretty. Away from me. So native to the Americas,
Starting point is 01:02:36 but have been in New Zealand and Australia since the 1870s. This article I was reading saying they are well known in New Zealand and Australia by the name The Wanderer. I have never in my life heard them by the name The Wanderer. I have never in my life heard them referred to as The Wanderer. Now here's the bit
Starting point is 01:02:50 that is today's fact of the day because monarch butterflies you watch, if you've got a swan plant, they come out, they spread the wings, they fly around and then you start finding dead ones. Don't you? But then some of them you find, like in winter you might see one and you're like, you're
Starting point is 01:03:07 well out of your jurisdiction, pal. Like, all the other monarch butterflies have gone. There's no action on the swan plants. You're like, what's happening here? Yep. Every fourth generation of monarch butterfly lives for six months. Huh. So they go, they live for two to three weeks on average.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Yeah. Oh my God, do they? Yeah. So they come out, they fly around. All their job really to do is to find another place to lay eggs. And look pretty. And fly around and have people go, oh, I'm on a butterfly. Or in your case, I'm again, spider wings.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Spider with quite nice orange and black wings. Yeah. So they live for two weeks. They find another place. But every fourth generation lives for six months. Because in America, that was when they would migrate south to warmer weather. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:03:49 They'd start migrating south to warmer weather. How long does a monarch butterfly take to go from Chicago to Florida? Tower wind? I don't know. It seems like a long way to go. It's just two hours in the right... Hurricane Dorian? Two seconds.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Right. Just gone. God, you have no wings. You just land, two seconds. Right. Just gone. God, you have no wings. You just land as a body. That's weird. Nature blows my mind all the time. Yeah, isn't nature wonderful? All the time.
Starting point is 01:04:14 So you'll go two to three weeks, two to three weeks, two to three weeks, six months. Do you think you get to that two to three weeks and you're like, oh, I hope I'm fourth gen. Yeah. I hope I'm a 4G. Yeah. You're like, what was great granddad like? I'm like, oh, I hope I'm fourth gen. Yeah. I hope I'm a 4G. Yeah. You're like, what was great granddad like? I'm like, oh, we met him.
Starting point is 01:04:29 He lived a long time. You're like, yes. Oh, no, wait a minute. That was your granddad. You're like. Damn you, grandfather. Or your fourth generation. You're like, this is great.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I've got another like five months left. I mean, you fly into the grill of a truck. Yeah. Or all your friends are second generation. Yeah. They have to go to all of their funerals and stuff. Imagine that's the saddest part about being the old person that outlives all your friends, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:55 My granddad went to, my papa went to his funerals before he passed away. And I was like, do you still get sad at funerals? He's like, nah. I was like, that's also pretty horrible. I'm imagining a lot more of them will be Skype though by the time we're that age. Skype funerals. Yeah's like, nah. I was like, that's also pretty horrible. I'm imagining a lot more of them will be Skype though by the time we're that age. Skype funerals?
Starting point is 01:05:08 Yeah, just watch it online on the iPad. Well, even now. Yeah. They'll do a live broadcast of the old funerals so you can watch it anywhere in the world.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Yeah. Yeah. Probably not going to catch on like a makeup tutorial but you know. Oh God, my funeral's only had 200 views. Exactly. Do a makeup tutorial at Funeral Home.
Starting point is 01:05:28 You didn't like my funeral I broadcast. Yeah, when the Prime Minister does her weekly address, there's always a signer next to the sign language person next to them. You've got the funeral and then on the stage, a makeup tutorial on the side. Yes, just a little bit of a get you in there. So today's Fact of the Day is every fourth generation of monarch butterfly lives for six months. Otherwise, it's only a two-weeker.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Fact of the Day, Day, Day, Day, Day. Hacking It's no joke Okay Banks can be hacked See you later money Identities can be hacked See you later clean slate and easy international travel rather than be stopped at every airport.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Yeah. And Netflix's can be hacked. And for the latest on that, we turn to senior Netflix hacking correspondent, Intern Anya, who has become a victim as well. Yeah. So this all happened this morning. Bit of a drama.
Starting point is 01:06:43 You know how you guys always give me a bit of stick because my alarms go off in five minute increments? Yeah, instead of just getting up. Yeah, the first one actually goes off at 3.55. So wake up, turn that on, and there's all these different Netflix notifications. New sign into Netflix. Hi, Willa.
Starting point is 01:07:02 So it's my mum's account. Hee hee. But signed up to my email. Someone's tried to get in from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Kuala Lumpur? Yes. Bloody poo-boo, let it learn poo. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:17 So this is at 3.49am. Wow, okay. So someone's trying to sign in. And then I get another one. Your password has been changed. Oh! Yeah. And then I get another one, your password has been changed. Oh. Yeah. And then I get another one, your email address has been changed.
Starting point is 01:07:34 So I call up Netflix because they have an 0800 number. Do they? Yeah, and I was like, hey, and this is. It's staffed at four in the morning. Yeah, I guess. Did it go international? Yeah, I think it went to America. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:46 And yeah, so I'm like, hey, my Netflix has got this thing. I'm really like frazzled at five past four. Yeah. And he was like, okay, that's okay. We can sort this out. We just need the last eight digits of your credit card. And I was like, oh Christ, I'm going to have to call mum at five past four because it's her credit card. Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:02 So I'm calling her on a mobile. She sleeps about 200 metres away from her mobile phone because she's a boomer. Classic boomers love that, man. And then they turn it off. Or just put it on silent. Yeah, they love to put it on the bench charging, don't they? Yes, that's where it was.
Starting point is 01:08:16 It was on the kitchen. It was on the pantry charging. Yeah. So I'm getting really stressed out at this stage. I'm like, oh, God, what if they've stolen mum's retirement fund? Yeah. So I actually called them on the landline, reserved for someone's dying or, you know, your Netflix has been hacked. This could have waited until after the show.
Starting point is 01:08:35 In my mind, more and more funds are being withdrawn the longer we wait. So mum doesn't answer the landline call, but she does text in a bit of a frazzle. She's like, oh God, okay, here it is. So gives me the credit card details. I call up again. This time I've got a different person, so I have to relay the whole story back to them.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Yeah. And he was like, because I said, oh yeah, so my account's been hacked in Malaysia and it's not me and I'd really like to get this sorted. And he was like, that is bad, isn't it? He's like, thank you, Stephen. Yes, it is. That, I didn't need help with that.
Starting point is 01:09:10 I know that. Yeah, yeah. And then he says, okay, look, we'll just, I've got in here. I can see that it's been hacked in this part of Malaysia. I'm like, again, not relevant. Stephen. Yeah, stop it. Come on.
Starting point is 01:09:22 And he's like, I just need you to confirm the profile names for me. I was like, that's cool. Anna, Andy, mum, dad, Soph. You know, whole family. Well, Andy's got his own. Yeah. Andy's mooching. He's mooching.
Starting point is 01:09:33 He's mooching off mum Willa's account. Poor old Willa. And then he's like, okay, so I just need to confirm the overall account name. And I was like, oh, Willa? No, no, it's not that. Anna? No, not that. I've got here, Madam Fasalo. And I was like, what? What are you talking about? And he's like, this is so weird. Obviously your first and last name is quite unique. But yeah, no, this is what I've got. And I was like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:10:05 Madam Fisselot. That's the hacker's name. He said, Madam Fartsalot. Andy had changed my account name the day before to Madam Fartsalot on Netflix. Oh my God. And I was just like, 10 past four, can you not? And then I was like, yep, that's me. Madam Fartsalot.
Starting point is 01:10:23 That's me, it's Madam Fartsalot. Yes, can we please proceed with the password change? He's in so much trouble. Has Andy given away the password somehow? No, Andy's unrelated. The account had been hacked, but it just so happened that that night before, Andy had thought he was real witty on the Netflix profiles
Starting point is 01:10:44 and changed it to Madam Farts a lot. How did they get your password? I don't know! You've got to change all your passwords now. I know! It's been a hectic morning. Trying to change them all. So there you go. Have you
Starting point is 01:10:59 changed it back to Anna from Madam Farts a lot? No, that's the last thing that I need to worry about. I need to worry about the actual banking passwords. Madam Farts A Lot's staying for the minute. And how this keto diet's affecting your wind passing. Yeah, we've got an inside. That's what it sounds like. Flesh, fauna, Megan.
Starting point is 01:11:15 The podcast. ZM. An Australian vegan in Perth has taken her neighbours to court over the smell of the barbecue as they take to the outdoors to cook meat. All I can smell is fish, she said. All they cook is meat and fish and I can't enjoy my backyard. I feel like a prisoner inside my own house.
Starting point is 01:11:38 That's interesting because could the court do anything on that? I can understand her distress if she's a vegan and she has to smell that. But, like, I don't know what you'd do about it. I have to drive past, walk past KFC every day and I smell it. I know, that causes me distress. Yeah. But I live with it. I want it.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Because it's delicious. Yeah. So she also had a problem with cigarette smoke wafting into her garden and the sound of children playing basketball. See, the ciggy smoke I'd hate. Yeah. I kind of agree with her on that one. That would be horrible. But then it's their backyard.
Starting point is 01:12:12 They're doing it outside. Like, it's not particularly lovely, but it's there. So what's the latest? It's going to court. They have dismissed the case once. She requested an appeal. That's been denied, but she won't give up and she's returning to the court system.
Starting point is 01:12:29 One neighbour's like, she didn't say anything about it for months. Then she mentioned it once and he told the kids to stop playing basketball on that side of the house and move the basketball to the other side of the house so they wouldn't disturb her. And he also moved his barbecue. So he's actually done
Starting point is 01:12:44 quite a bit. He his barbecue. So he's actually done... Right, he's trying. Quite a bit. He's trying. But he said also, just because she chooses to live that life, I'm not really hurting anybody over here if I want to continue to do this in my own backyard. Not like he's throwing sausages over the fence.
Starting point is 01:12:59 It's just the smell of sausages. Yeah, the smell of... He's throwing the smell of sausages over the fence. But not physically sausages. And, the smell of... He's thrown the smell of sausages at me. But not physically sausages. And as someone just messaged in, that's the minority of vegans pulling this sort of stuff. There's plenty of very normal ones out there. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:13:15 I wouldn't have a problem with my neighbour doing whatever they wanted on their barbecue. That's how they choose to live. Yeah. And that's very true as well. Not like those bloody anti-vaxxers, am I right? Jesus. Are you fighting with bloody anti-vaxxers, am I right? Jesus. Are you fighting with an anti-vaxxer? No, the person on the text machine claimed they weren't an anti-vaxxer.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Well, what did they say? They said, labelling anti-vaxxers as ignorant is tantamount to bullying. And then they said, we're also picking on people from lower socioeconomic areas as they are not vaccinated. And I said, well, no, we've never once said people who haven't had the chance to be vaccinated or, you know, haven't fallen through the cracks. We've never blamed them. We blame people who have proactively chosen to not contribute to the majority herd immunisation that we need for that to work and children to not get sick and people to not die. We always notice, Megan and I notice when Vaughan's having an argument
Starting point is 01:14:05 with someone on the text machine because he's on his laptop like... And then I just see lots of angry responses. I don't see what Vaughan wrote, but I see the responses. I try not to be angry. Well, you're just having a rational argument. No, you're just being passive-aggressive and then it really upsets them. Yeah, yeah, that's the better part to be. How good is it being in an argument with someone and you remain calm and they start getting really frustrated
Starting point is 01:14:26 and then they're getting frustrated because of how calm you are and they get all out of control and they start concentrating too much on how calm you are and not enough on just chatting. Yeah. That's good fun. That's good stuff. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. If you enjoyed this podcast,
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