ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - September 11 2019

Episode Date: September 10, 2019

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ZM. Head music lives here. Fletch Warner-Megan, the podcast. Thank you, Arnie. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch Warner-Megan. Two minutes past six. It's the big Apple announcement day. Yeah, we're Apple next iPhone, right? The 11 or the... Well, they haven't got up to that. XI or whatever they're going to call it. What have we got so far? Well, we get the dribbles throughout the morning. They've started with Apple TV.

Apple TV Plus, which will launch on the 1st of November. It'll be $4.99 US a month. So I don't know if that'll make it like seven or eight bucks New Zealand.

Yeah. So a whole bunch of original content. Well, yeah, they've got the morning show, which is at Steve Carell, Jennifer Anderson. Something with Jason Momoa.

And that's about it. I would have thought they just sort of bought Netflix. Yeah. Like, haven't they got like bajillions of dollars? Just buy Netflix. But apparently if you buy an Apple TV or an iPad or an iPhone, you're going to get a year's free. Okay.

Okay, that's all. So Apple Watch is generally Next out of the blocks For a little bit of an announcement Or an Apple operating system And then it ends Always ends with the iPhone The iPhone Yeah

They get jazzed for the iPhone This rain in the Coromandel Peninsula This is terrible news For everybody who was hoping This summer and spring They'll be able to hike up To the pinnacles for a

You know just a little day trip That really results in Some great grand Oh yeah the photos Coming out of videos and photos yesterday of the flooding were crazy. Because they only just got that all tickety-boo again, the tracks up to the Pinnacles. Yeah, right.

It's a lovely big heart, but don't go when school camps are on or at the weekends because it's full of children. Well, you got your stuff stolen out of your car last time you parked at the bottom of the Pinnacles, didn't you? No, that was close. It was just on the other side of Thames. Oh, that's right it was.

That was up to Crosby's. So I do worry if that amount of rain at the Pinnacles, Crosby's would be my favourite little hut there. Crosby's are we. Soggy. Soggier than soggy at the very least. And if I could just take a moment of all seriousness, pull the music down, please.

Think of everybody who has a house on the Pawanui waterways. Oh, my God. The lawn must be so wet. A moment's silence. Yeah. You're just jealous because you don't have a house on the Pawanui waterways. If you did, the 17-foot Haynes Hunter leisure craft

that they leave there may have been donked against the jetty. I just want everyone to keep that in mind this morning if you think you're having a rough morning. Somebody's Haynes Hunter.

Someone doesn't know how their Pamanui Waterways house is going to be. They're going to have to send around the cleaner to give them an inspection. Oh my gosh. Tough times.

Tough times. We will rebuild. All right, you lot. Listen up. It's story time. Tough times. We will rebuild. All right, you lot. Listen up. It's story time. All right. All right. Haru.

All right. Headline one. Were you going to say headline three? Yeah. It's just going to go backwards today. I've got three headlines. You've got to pick one. Okay.

Headline three. Students lose privacy. Headline two. Keith Urban cuts loose at strip club. And headline one, delicious sticky fingers. Those are your three headlines. You've got to only allow to pick one. Delicious sticky fingers. Yes.

I've told you. Delicious sticky fingers. Oh, you want delicious sticky fingers. Okay, I do too. Oh, okay. Well, that was easy, wasn't it? Yeah. Okay.

A man has been accused in New York of stealing 1,020 pastries worth $90,000 from a New York bakery. The gourmet cakes and pastries retail for $90 a piece. Jesus. He apparently was smuggling these from the warehouse or the place that they were made and selling them on the black market.

It was done on dozens of occasions over several months because obviously it would be a bit hard to pick still that many. Yeah. Just stolen lots of cakes. The cakes. The delicious sticky fingers.

That's kind of pretty much it. Oh, okay. Yeah. The New York Times Magazine once called the cake or the particular $90 crepe. That's kind of like a layer of crepes. You see what I mean? That's too expensive

yeah that means a tie line you can get those things on the side of the road I know for like for like 30 cents yeah ridiculous

it's good stuff New York Times Magazine once called the cake at least the second best cake in the city I don't know who at least the second best

it's kind of an underhanded compliment isn't it you don't have the best cake in the city. I don't know who. At least the second best. It's kind of an underhanded compliment, isn't it? Yeah. You don't have the best cake in the city, but it's got to be up there. Who's better? Also, if you're going to say it's the second best, please. You've got to tell us. Inform us as to who is the best. It doesn't say in this article.

At least, because there's only one better, you know? At least the second best. Yeah. No, there's no link through to that unfortunately, so I can't tell you who has the best cake in New York City. Not that you're going to be able to go out and get it. And then also,

if I just Google, like, the best cake in New York City, best cake, it's going to just be an opinion based thing. I know, yeah. I know. Could have been Magnolia Bakery. But there is a, I'd put best cake in best cake in Auckland. This will be a bold claim. Auckland's best cakes that you need to devour.

Do you do cakes at your cafe? You don't do a cake. Why don't you do a cake? We do like little mini cakes. You do slices and yeah. Not like a cake. It's a lot of effort to make a cake. Yeah, but you make everything else.

Yeah, but I know, but I'm telling you it's a lot of effort to make a cake. Yeah, but you make everything else. Yeah, but I know, but I'm telling you it's a lot of effort to make a cake. The other things are easier. You don't back yourself to make a cake, do you? No, not me. Mr. Toyboy, though. Mr. Toyboy makes a great cake. He made us cakes a couple of years in a row. I'm actually thinking of instigating that again because that was quite bloody good.

Yeah. He makes a great cake. It's a lot of effort. It's a lot of time. It's a lot of effort. Yeah, you've got to sell it. But then you sell them by the slice. Surely you're making money when you sell cake by the slice, right? But you could put a sign up next to it saying at least

the second best cake in Auckland. Because you're not claiming you're the best. Yeah, exactly. But then people are like, well, it must be pretty good. That's actually genius. No one ever asked who said it. Yeah, exactly. Where are the claims coming from? I've eaten cake on this list. I've eaten cake from four of the top five cake places.

And you know what I'm doing after the show today? Go to the one you haven't. Go to the fifth. Right, okay. I've got to knock off the... Do you agree that they're good? Yeah, phenomenal. Phenomenal.

Phenomenal cakes. Great cakes. How do you have that many cakes? How do you not have that many cakes? Make me feel bad about this. I don't know. 12 past six. Next, we're going to tell guys to stop doing something with their genitals.

Again. Putting them in cakes. Well, no, no judge. If you're into that and you want to ruin a perfectly good cake. Fleshforn and Megan, the judge. If you're into that and you want to ruin a piffle-legged cake. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. 2019 was the year that we had to tell men to stop putting toothpaste on their penises. Why is this happening? Because of YouTube.

I thought you were about to say because of you. I was like, no. You don't want to whiten them. Is it whitening it? No. Or is it charcoal? Are they using that new charcoal toothpaste to clean? Just stop a cavity.

Well, you've got to scrub that in, though, to get the most out of it. Right. So there's YouTube videos. There's a few of them, apparently, that claims it can help increase timing. And no, I can't say that. I can't say that either I can't say that either. Longevity. Yeah.

Right. And firmness. You can say stiffness, surely. Well, stiffness. It's a recognised scientific term. Okay. Longevity and stiffness. When you say it together, it's...

Well, it's better than saying a long stiffy, Megan. Well, one of these videos, the toothpaste... Are you actually watching it? No, I've searched on YouTube. I'm not watching it. 71,000 views. Yeah. One of these videos.

So this is a problem. So what it tells you to do, I'll tell you so you don't have to watch it. It's misleading. It says four times bigger. Yeah. See, this is the problem. Four times bigger thanks to toothpaste. Who's believing that?

So, yeah, there was one of these videos that has over a million views. And it says that toothpaste can do more than help you clean your teeth. Making love has become hard and making yourself last. You're really struggling with this, aren't you? I'm paraphrasing and it's difficult. Making, that can help you last longer. So you're advised to massage toothpaste onto the tip. That, I would have thought that would have been the part to avoid

Because Of the sensitive nature It stops Premature stuff And it stops dysfunction Right So people are out there Well helps with dysfunction

So yeah Doctors and Pharmacists I feel like they didn't Need to say this but they Yeah. So, yeah, doctors and pharmacists, I feel like they didn't need to say this, but they have because it's become a problem. It will lead to blisters, burns and scarring. Oh, God. So please don't do that.

Also, they said there's an abrasive property to toothpaste which will make things uncomfortable for you. Yeah, some have the micro-cleaning power, don't they? Yeah, and if you don't wipe off the toothpaste residue, it can also become a massive problem for the female or wherever it's going. Yeah, right. Do you know what I mean?

Any word on Listerine, its properties? Well, they have said, look, anything to do with peppermint, minty, like peppermint oil even, has irritant properties when you put it on sensitive skin. So just be careful, okay? Just be bloody careful. I can't believe we need a warning for that.

Come on, people. It's embarrassing. There's over a million views on one of those videos. And this is only the guys that have actually gone to the hospital and admitted that they've got... God, I'm glad YouTube wasn't around when I was a teenager. Look at this. Look at this one.

Vaporub for genital enhancement. No, don't do that. And there's this woman holding a tub of Vicks Vaporub, and it's had 435,000 views. Okay. Vicks. No. So the pharmacist, actually it was a urologist that said this,

anyone using toothpaste for sex is kidding themselves. Don't do it. Blunt into the point. Because then you're going to have to go to hospital and explain how that happened. I took my medical advice from a YouTube, a YouTuber, and then they put you in the ward with all the kids with measles because they took their medical advice from someone just as stupid. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan.

The podcast. Sauce chat. And we should feel personally attacked by this, but Wattie's tomato sauce has rated the lowest in an Australian survey of tomato-based sauces.

Catch-ups. I'm sure you'll tell us, but what is the go-to Tommy sauce in Australia? In Australia. Like, I thought that... Heinz? Heinz. But that's Waddy's anyway,

isn't it? It's the same company. Yeah, but I kind of rate them differently. Heinz is ketchup and Waddy's is tomato sauce. They're slightly different. You have to beat the hell

out of Heinz to get it out of the bottle. Yeah, it's in that bloody glass bottle. You have to beat the crap out of it. It's going to hurt your hand. And then you have to do the windmill swingy thing to get it out of the bottle. Yeah, it's in that bloody glass bottle. You have to beat the crap out of it. It'll hurt your hand. And then you have to do the windmill swingy thing to get the dregs out and then you're really

at risk of smashing that glass bottle. Hitting the light on the ceiling and yeah. So how's the sauce different? Because you know me, I'm not a tomato sauce guy. So the Heinz ketchup is thick and really rich. Really rich. Right. Whereas the sauce, like Waddy's sauce is...

It pours. It's more saucy, isn't it? And it's... Saucy. Saucy. Because you know me, I'm more of a chutney sauce if I was. Yeah, I love a chunky sauce as well. But I'm more of a...

I'm just a hot sauce guy now. Yeah, or sweet chilli sauce. That's my go-to. I don't really discriminate between sauces. Yeah. I'll have anything. Anything. I'll have a smoky...

Not barbecue sauce, no. Oh, no, smoky barbecue sauce. Oh, what's wrong with you? New Zealanders in Australia feeling quite. Attacked. Attacked by this. Yeah, they might come home. Yeah.

I doubt it. Well, you can just. I'm not coming home. Right. So, go on. No, you can just say more for me. You're just Googling sauces. I'm not going to run out.

Oh, no, I was going to Google. There's a couple of brands of tomato sauces that I hadn't heard of. Right, okay. There's Fountain Tomato Sauce which came second equal with Rosella Tomato Sauce and Rosella is just

it's got a bird on it. We don't have that brand here. We don't have that one here. Right. So is what is last? Yeah, last equal with a Master Foods tomato sauce.

I can't say I've had that one. They each got 8% of the vote. Yeah, I equal with a Master Foods tomato sauce. I can't say I've had that one. They each got 8% of the vote. Yeah, I haven't had Master Foods. Maybe I haven't had Master Foods tomato sauce. It wouldn't be worth doing a sauce survey in New Zealand, would there? No. No, because what is it? Because what is it?

Just win. Oh, you know Master Foods. Yeah, we all know. We've got Master Foods. We all know Master Foods. It comes in this bottle. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it comes in that.. We've got Master Foods. We all know Master Foods. It comes in this bottle. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it comes in that.

You twist the top and squeeze her out. No. That's not a bad tomato sauce. That's nothing on what is. But it's not. According to Australia, it's equally as rubbish. Right. Why are we suddenly trusting what Australians have to say?

Well, I'm just wondering how good this Rosella tomato sauce is and this Fountain tomato sauce. Like, how good are they? Right. But it's practically a declaration of war, isn't it? It is. It's very cheeky. So when asked,

one of the ex-MasterChef hosts, you know how they all walked when that guy got found out to be like ripping all of his employees off and such? Yeah, yeah. They asked him what makes a good tomato sauce. Yeah. And he said an Australian tomato sauce tends to be thinner and more vinegary than ketchup,

which is why the likes of Heinz isn't considered a traditional Australian tomato sauce. Yeah, see, that's pretty much what I said. Yeah. More eloquently and well delivered. It's more like a tomato paste, isn't it? Yeah. It's more like a very thick tomato paste. From the ZM

Think Tank, this is the Top 6. Good morning. Today's Top 6 dealing with YouTube superstar Ryan from Ryan's Toy Reviews. Started in 2015 when he was, how old would he have been there?

Four years ago, like three years old. Playing with toys, unboxing toys. It's branched out now. He's got his own toys. If you don't have kids, you probably wouldn't know. Apart from every year when they release the list of the richest YouTubers and him and his parents are right at the top. 21 million subscribers on YouTube and his videos have been viewed more than 31 billion times. He's seven.

Does he even have any idea of his level of fame and money? Don't know. Probably not. He's got a TV show now on Nick Jr. called Ryan's Mystery Playdate. He's had advertising deals with Colgate, Walmart, all sorts of things. And he's got his own range of toys now. Wow. So they're making bank.

However, somebody has complained to the Federal Trade Commission saying that this is very finely skirting laws where you aren't allowed to trick preschoolers into watching ads. Right. Real massive laws. You have to state an ad is an ad and he's being paid to promote toys but makes it look like he's just playing with the toys.

That's actually, that sounds a little bit dodgy when you say that. So. That's natural law over there. Yeah. Well, it's like here, if anything on Instagram, you've got to put a hashtag ad

or a hashtag spons or SP. So the complaint read that Ryan's channel deceptively promotes a multitude of products to millions of preschool-aged children in violation of the FTC law. They gave two examples. Ryan pretending to serve and make toy food in a play kitchen.

Well, it seems not to be sponsored. It was heavily advertising Carl's Jr. Wow, okay. So yeah, he Yeah. His parents. Someone's going to prison. So the top six criminal toys that Ryan can review.

From prison? Yeah. Great. Before he gets the whole shebang. Number six on the list of the top six criminal toys that Ryan can review. Fisher Price paper shredder and hard drive formatter as the FBI make a raid on his house. Brilliant. That'd be a great video.

Yeah. He's like, I'm just going to charge this up. Shredding documents. And in the meantime, that hard drive is almost finished formatting. Number five on the list of the top six criminal toys that Ryan can review. My first electric car to try to evade police in a police chase. Yeah. Because he does have, having watched a few of these videos,

he does have pretty much a garage full of those little kids' electric cars. Oh, they look so cool. Are they real expensive? They're not as expensive. Well, there are really expensive ones. There's cheap ones and you get the feeling you're getting what you pay for. Well, can you hurry up and buy Indian August a Barbie convertible? I missed it.

I missed the opportunity. Now I just have to buy them a go-kart that I can also fit into. Shame, but I have to do it. Great. It's a shame, but somebody has to. Number four on the list of the top six criminal toys Ryan can review are his

tear gas canister protection mask. So this is where he'll be tear gassed. He'll pop on his little mask and he'll tell us what he thinks about his ability to keep tear gas out of his lungs. Is this to prepare for the FBI raid? Well, yeah, when they're raiding,

when it comes through the window after the, you know, when the police chase ends badly and he proceeds on foot. Right, right. He goes into somebody else's house, they'll tear gas him. Luckily, he's got his My First Tear Gas mask on hand. Number three on the list of the top six criminal toys Ryan can review is the police taser. Oh, yeah.

As he resists arrest kicking and biting frantically at officers he'll be able to deliver us an on the point review of how effective a police taser is it at subduing a seven year old. Brilliant. Number two on the list of the top six criminal toys Ryan can review. My first handcuffs as his hands

are put behind his back and his gas mask is torn off his face and that taser again gives him a nice little jolt in the back, he'll be able to tell us what he thinks of his first pair of handcuffs. Yeah, right.

Which will probably be not fluffy and pretty hard. Yeah, I'd imagine so. I wonder if they close small enough to handcuff a seven-year-old. I don't know.

I don't know. You have to get out the, um, my first, um, what do you call those plastic ones? Cable ties. Yes.

Oh, yeah. Yes, they'll have those on hand. And number one on the list of the top six criminal toys Ryan can review after it goes through the courts and he's too young to go to prison, My First Home Detention Bracelet. He can be stuck in the house where he can continue to make videos, review toys and not hashtagging them spawns so this whole thing can happen all over again

and he can make money off his own arrest. ZM's Fletch Warner Megan, the podcast. The banking ombudsman has, there's been an interesting situation with a credit card. Okay. A customer complained that she shouldn't be liable to have to pay back all the money she owed on a credit card. Is this me?

Stay with me. Stay with me. Megan, did you make a complaint? So I didn't know this. Yeah. But some banks, it's called standard industry practice, so it may or may not apply to you. Right.

But some banks have, while your credit card limit might be $8,000, there's a bit of flexibility there so that if you go to buy something and it's only a few dollars over, you won't face the embarrassment of having to leave without it. Oh, but then they are going to sting you. So then that's where interest and other fees come in. However, this customer is claiming she did not know that it would let her go 20% over. Right.

So if you add $5,000 limit, that lets you go another $1,000, for example. $10,000, that lets you go $2,000 more. So she just kept going, waiting to hit the bottom. And it was more than what she thought it was. Now, there's a certain lack of personal responsibility here. A complete and utter lack. When we were talking about this, Fletch and I were both like,

what happens to these? What did this person's parents do growing up? And Megan's just like, What do you mean? It's not like my parents ever sat me down and talked me through credit cards I've learnt as I've gone no but

well my big thing was growing up if you don't have you don't have it you can't spend it that was what my parents thing always was yeah

until it came to ticking up a massive mortgage and then that really got ya yeah so why not but she said that they shouldn't have

let her go over the limit by 20%. I agree. And thus, I don't want to have to pay that. And I also don't want to have to pay the interest or fees associated with going over by 20%. I knew you could go over a smidgy bit. And I was like, oh, that's cute to save you from embarrassment or whatever. But I didn't realise it would be 20% in some cases. Yeah.

Because they sting you. They really sting you. That seems irresponsible on behalf of the bank. Well, no, it would be 20% in some cases. Yeah. Because they sting you. They really sting you. That seems irresponsible on behalf of the bank. Well, no, it's irresponsible on you for going over your limit. No, because they haven't told me that it can... I thought a limit is there for a reason. It limits me. No, but you just said you know it's a flexi limit.

I know, but sometimes I'm not going on online banking. I need the decline to rein me in. So I didn't know that the limit was like a soft limit, you know? They need to decline me every now. I need limits. I need hard limits in my life. You have purchased something. And I've gone over.

And you've been like, I don't know if there's going to be money for this or not. I don't like the judgment in your voice. I don't like the tone you're using. Sometimes. I like it as if you're a student and you're at the supermarket and you're just going to take a gamble. Like, I get that because you can put... Are you saying you don't take gambles?

I take gambles. Put one thing back at a time. Live a little. But there's no excuse for it now because you can literally get out your phone, the quick balance is on your screen in a second. So you know the balance of your credit card and your bank at any moment of the day. I didn't come here to be judged by you two.

No, but the limit. See, I understand where she's coming from because you've got a limit, right? Yeah. So it'll decline you if you can't afford it, if you can't pay for it. Well, apparently not. And now, so she's saying,

I don't want to pay anything. Good on her. Let me know how this goes. So, well, I can tell you, the bank made her a goodwill offer. I don't have the details on what that was, but they would not agree to reimburse her for the overspend amount because she had personally benefited from transactions made. She wanted the free money.

She had bought things, and then she was like, well, you shouldn't have let me buy them. I want to keep these things, but I want you to pay for them, which is not how banks make billions of dollars every quarter. What world is she living in? I mean, we all hate the banks,

but come on. It did agree, however, to reverse interest and fees charged since she exceeded her credit limit. Right. Okay, see,

that's all I'd be after. So they reversed that, but anything that was incurred after she went over her limit. Right. On the condition she had to surrender her credit card. Oh. Why?

I've learnt my lesson. You haven't. I really feel like this is attacking me. It does feel like we could just put your name into this. Yeah. And it could probably work. But it's good now. I've learnt, and I'm sure there's other people listening that have learnt,

that you can go 20% over and the bank will tell you off. I didn't know that. Well, not only that, they won't tell you off. They'll just charge you phenomenal fees. Yeah. Right. Okay. It's good to know. They're not our friends. I don't think you've learnt your lesson here. Yeah, I mean, you haven't

lived until you, like, swipe and you wait and you wait and you wait and then not sure if it's going to be declined or accepted and you're like yeah we live another day we eat or we wear Megan's not I was going to say it's not eat we eat it's we wear

Flesh fawner Megan the podcast ZM the internet yesterday was all about this young boy spotted in a crowd in Turkey watching a football game smoking a cigarette. He looks so young. There he is in his green shirt and a scarf supporting Boris Bor. Boris Bor?

There are two In the photo On the left The kid looks about Five Five or six Seven Yeah Yeah

And then the guy The kid smoking Looks about the same age Yeah Maybe a little bit older Maybe Yeah yeah Six or seven

They look like brothers Yeah They look like brothers But The internet went crazy saying this six-year-old out there smoking and apparently smoking is banned in a public place in Turkey. Right. It carries

a fine of about $30 New Zealand. Okay. So there was the fact that a six-year-old was doing it really had everybody chatting and talking about it. So he was tracked down. He just wants everybody to know he's not six.

He's 36. Oh, my God. Is it just the fact that it's on TV and he's next to a six-year-old? He's a small guy. Yeah. He's a small guy, but if you look at another photo, he still doesn't look 36, but there's another photo there where he looks older. He looks maybe late teens.

He doesn't even look 16 in that second photo. Yeah, he looks probably 14, 15. Jeez. Are we sure? No, he said he's 36. 100%, he's 36. He's come. Whoa.

Is there his kid beside him? Yes. He could literally get into the movies as a kid. Wow. 100%. Because even, yeah, it's not all the TV angle. Like he does look really, really young. Yeah.

Has he said that he gets mistaken a lot? Yeah, it's a thing. It's a common thing. He's used to dealing with everyone who thinks he's really young. That's insane. But he's, yeah. That would be annoying. He's 36, not six.

But like, also compliment. Oh, I guess six. No, I reckon it would get. Six is too young. You want to be in your 30s and people think you're in your 20s or, you know, in your 40s and people think, oh, yeah. Or, you know, still getting ID'd in your late 20s. That's always nice, but.

I had a double case of this yesterday because I met this lovely old couple in Warehouse Stationery. We just had a chat. What were you doing in Warehouse Stationery? I was printing out some menus. I'm busy day of jobs yesterday, Fletch. But I met this couple. Why don't you have a printer?

No, I do have a printer. But like, it doesn't, I'm literally like good quality. You don't want to go to a place and they've like printed out their menus on a home printer. You can tell. Yeah, I just, mine's, you know. You buy a nice stock of paper though. It's all on the paper, the menu. Oh yeah, I've got nice paper.

Okay, but you were getting them done there. I just need them to be like properly done. Because if my ink's a bit dodgy, I get lying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, I met this couple and they were so sweet. And they were telling me about their day and we had a good old yarn and I found out that they've been travelling and everything and then they said about their kids,

now that they're not at home, and I was like, oh, how old are your kids? And they said 57. And this is when I realised that the couple, I was like, sorry, did you say kids or sister? And they looked probably about 57 themselves, but they told me they were 83. I'm not even lying.

There was barely wrinkles, barely wrinkles. Did you ask what their secret was? No, well, I found out his secret. So he said, I've been to Machu Picchu. And I was like, how long ago? He said last year he climbed Machu Picchu. So he's super active. Yeah.

Yeah, right. Okay. And he said, oh, you know, and our secret part of it was having kids young in our 20s. So maybe that's something you should think about. Gave me a wink. I was like, ha! So then he thought you were in your 20s. I didn't say anything when I was like, I'll take it. Well, no.

I can't plumb that. You could take it as that or that you're in your 30s and you should hurry up. There's another way to take that. No, it was definitely, it was definitely you're in your 20s. You should think up. There's another way to take that. No, it was definitely, it was definitely, you're in your 20s, you should think about that. Were you with Mr. Toyboy? Because the only time you get ID'd

is when you're with Mr. Toyboy. I was with him, but that's irrelevant, Your Honour, because I get this when I'm by myself. It's just like, it's really hard, because, you know, it's hard to be taken seriously

when people think I'm so young all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just easier. That nice man didn't know me. He didn't, like, know if he was giving me a compliment or not. It was just, like, slip of the mouth. He just said it. Just said it.

Yeah. He believed I was in my 20s. And I was like, I'm going to take that. Were you wearing a lot of makeup? Back to the guy in his 80s that looks like he's in his 50s, though. What does he eat? Oh, I don't know. You should have drilled him more for questions and answers here.

I was honestly so baffled. So able-bodied, so, like, talking. Like, they ride motorbikes and stuff. Did he drink? No, I don't know. Maybe. Maybe it's the whiskey that's keeping him going. That's what they always say.

Yeah, but you do a whiskey every day. Yeah. It's preserving. It's preserving. It's pickling. It's pickling. It's a slow pickling process. That's the way to go.

We'd like to know this morning if anyone gets your age vastly wrong. Yeah. Like. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard being ID'd all the time. But maybe it is annoying because you do look so young. Or it could totally go the other way. What if you're in your 20s but you look like you're in your 40s or something?

Probably a harder story to bring up and glow with. But that was always good when you were at school and you had that old-looking balding friend who could buy booze, you know. We had one of those. Was it you? No, it wasn't actually. I didn't do my boarding till after high school where it was pointless.

So, give us a call. 0800 DALS at M 9696. Do people always get your age wrong? So, a 36-year-old has been confused for a 6-year-old on television, smoking at a football game.

I still don't even believe the second photo of him. He only looks 16. Yeah, if that. No, 36 years old. He said if it comes to it, he'll pay the fine for smoking in public, but he's definitely 36. Right. So when do you always get confused, your age?

Nicola, you, how old are you? I'm just in 30. 30. And how old do you look? Well, people think I'm about 18. See, that's not a bad thing, is it? Nah, that's all right. Sometimes, sometimes.

Yeah. Okay, give us an example of when it's a bad thing. Okay, I used to be a manager at a cafe, and people would go, oh, can I speak to the manager, please? I'm like, you're actually looking at her. And they're like, oh, you're too young. You look way too young. So you're saying people don't take you seriously?

Not at all. No, but I love being underestimated. That's my favourite bit, because then you're like, I'm actually the manager and you do it in that tone. Because Megan barely scrapes average. So if everyone's expecting nothing, she exceeds their expectations. This is true. That's the good part.

That's a positive. So we've turned a negative into a positive. Nicola, thanks for your call. Kane, how old are you? Good morning. I am 15 and less than two weeks. And everyone thinks that I'm between 18 and 25. Wait, so you're 15 and less than two weeks. So you're 14.

Yep. And people think you look 25. Yeah, most people think that I'm between 18 to 25. Right. So there's obviously good and bad with that, isn't there? Yes. One good thing was that I did get into the clubs once. Are you speaking quietly?

It's not driving or something. I'm in the clubs with my pocket money and I'm having a great time. What is it, Cain, that makes you look older, do you think? I think it's the fact that I'm like super, super tall. I have a few tattoos and I have coloured hair. Hold on, you're 14 and you've got tattoos? Yes. Are you allowed tattoos when you're 14?

I don't know. No, but my uncle, his wife is a tattoo artist and he is a piercing artist, so I can get those for free. This is a loose family. I love it. I love it. Go see Uncle Snake and get some tats

from his missus. Well, that's the thing. If you've got tattoos and you're super tall, people would, there's no way they'd think you were 14. Yeah.

I love it. Little kids usually are like, are you 12? I'm like, no. And then they go, oh, you're like 20. I'm like, sure, whatever. Right.

So kids your age don't even know that you're their age. Well, you're tatted up. Well, this is true. Cain thinks you're cool. Emily, how old are you? I'm currently 23. 23. Okay.

And how old do people think you are? Well, when I was 15, I went to the Marble Wine and Food Festival. And me and my old brother was 19 at the time and my father went through the under 18 line and my dad obviously didn't get IDs. My older brother did and then the security guard just looked at me and gave me an R18 band and didn't ask me for ID despite that I was 15. You went through the under 18 line.

Yep. And you didn't get ID'd and you got an 18 strap. Yep. Were you insulted by that? No. My brother was because he was 19 and got ID'd and I didn't. I was a very well-developed, forced 15-year-old. And no one stopped me all back.

Right. And so does that still work in your favour now? Or is it annoying? Weirdly enough, it did, because I went to the GI pools last week, and the woman ID'd me to make sure I wasn't 15 and didn't need parental guidance whilst at the pools. Very, very confusing.

That would be annoying, wouldn't it? Benjamin Buttoning. I mean, you've got to take the compliment, but at the same time, it would be frustrating. Emily, thanks for your call. Some text messages on when people get your age wildly wrong. I look way older than I am.

I used to be able to buy beers. He's at 16, which was cool, but now that I'm 24, I just look like I'm way too old to be in the club. Okay. There you go. You do look, if you're 24 and you look way older, you do look like the creepy person going in the club. I'm There you go. You do look, if you're 24 and you look way older, you do look like the creepy person going in the club.

I'm 39 and my husband is 30 but everyone thinks he's older than me. That's from Jen. Yes. That's good stuff. I'm 27

and on far too many occasions at work, customers have asked me why I'm not at school. So it looks like I'm like wagging school to work. I get told

I'm 16. I'm 26. My auntie is 55, she has three kids, and everyone thinks she's just one of the kids. Oh, really? Yeah. I always wonder, do people get to a point, though, and it's like you look young, young, young, young, young, and then all of a sudden you hit a certain point

and your face falls off or something. I'm just worried my face is just going to slip one day. Yeah. Just wake up and it's like. Yeah right. We've had all this good time so. Yeah that's true. Got to make the most of it. I got told I look very youthful for my mid 30s but I'm only 22. See that's. Yeah that's got to hurt.

Ah but they said balding. They were balding but that's the thing about when you're balding you do a lot of ageing very aging very quickly, and then you look the same for ages. Yeah. That's just how it works. That is, yeah. When I was 14, a relieving student asked me if I was an adult student or a student teacher. I didn't know if it was a compliment or not.

When I was in high school, I went to a school event, and one of the parents asked me what class I teach. So I guess they thought I was significantly older than I was. Should never assume one's age. Either way. Because it's risky biz. Like as strangers, I may never assume. This one, I'm 33 and I have short hair

and my fiance's workmates thought I was his teenage son. Oh God. That's a big old mistake there. All right. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. I said one in four women, or 25% because they've done the maths, have admitted this, which is, it's pretty crazy. I've actually read through all the stats and I actually agree with all of it.

So, a new study has found that one in four women suffer from gym intimidation. Gym intimidation. They don't go to the gym because of fear of being judged. So half of the women studied said at some point they felt negatively judged when they were working out at the gym. Probably mostly by themselves though, right? Because at the gym, you're only worried about yourself.

No. I'll get to that. No, not judged by yourself. At a woman's only gym? No. Just at either. Any gym? Yeah.

So the worst age group affected, 18 to 24-year-olds. 70% of 18 to 24-year-olds feel this way. 37% feel they aren't good enough to go to the gym 28 worry they'll look unattractive when they work out everybody looks unattractive when they work out everyone's like sweating and red and like no don't worry about it mate get in there and then you're not good enough for the gym that that's what the gym's there for, right? Don't worry about it. Because I get this when I'm on the treadmill because, like, I'm not a runner. And, like, so I do that run, then walk,

then run, then walk. What does it hit? I do that. Yeah. Some high-intensity running. But then I'm like, the person beside me has been running faster than me the whole time I've been doing this.

But then you don't compare yourself to them. No, I know, but no, I'm just thinking they must think I'm so slow. They probably don't care. And then like, do I look funny when I run? Everybody looks funny when they run. All of these things go through your head. The only person in human history

that's looked cool or two, Tom Cruise and Usain Bolt. Tom Cruise is a great runner. He's a great runner. Producers, Anya and Caitlin, do you get gymtimidation? Yes, and please, Vaughan, don't tell us how we feel. I didn't tell you how to feel.

I didn't tell you how you feel. I just told you you're being silly. Yeah, exactly. Don't do that, please. Well, you want a solution. It sounds like you want a solution. No, but that's my solution. Don't want a solution and then be shitty when someone offers one.

The solution is don't be so silly. Just get on with it. Don't worry about it. I said don't worry about it. It's not a judgment. I'm saying don't worry about it. It's a solution and then be shitty when someone offers one. The solution is don't be so silly. Just get on with it. Don't worry about it. I said don't worry about it. It's not a judgment. I'm saying don't worry about it. It's a solution. This is actually a thing.

Would you even feel this at a women's only gym or if a gym had a female only section? Yeah, because that's where I used to go when I went to Les Mills. I'd go to the women's only part. And if there's too many people, I'm like, oh. You're still intimidated by the other one, you know? But there's a section at my gym where all the females just happen to go to. And I went the other day and there was so many

girls in there and they all had like matching like crop tops and pants and I was just like, not today my girls, not today. And you're just in your trackies and your old t-shirt. They all looked like they'd been gymming forever and they were like, Fitzboaz and I was just like, oh nah, I'll go somewhere else.

I'll find a nice, sweet, quiet corner where I can do my own thing. No one's watching me and being like, huh, like real light squats, babes. You just got to go at the right time. I don't need anyone judging me. Straight after lunch. Yeah. Anya, what are your thoughts? You get gym intimidation?

Just don't go at all. Then, you know, you're all good. Yeah. intimidation just don't go at all then you know you're all good yeah nah like i used to belong to a gym like a little community council one and that was all good because just me and all the old mates but i'd never go to like a cool dude gym because i'm too scared see this is like this is legit this is a thing um the study has been found that like one in five women just don't do any exercise because they're intimidated. And they're like, this is bad because we need to all be moving.

You just need to find something that works for you. So it wouldn't even go out for a solo run or walk? Wow. Oh, I don't want to. This is another thing. I would never run on the street because everyone would be like, do you know when I used to try and run? I'd run and wait until, I'd be so bug buggered but i'd have to wait until all the cars would go past to stop because i was like i didn't want anyone to see me stop running but no one is

even exercising for me but i don't want the judgment of everyone else and i'm also like the neighbors are probably watching me being like oh she so slow. Look how much she's sweating. She's so much judgment. Do you think it's because you're so judgy yourself? Yeah. Have a look at her. It's you. You're helping the other people doing what you do to other people. Because when I see people running, all I think is good on you.

I wish I could do that. But then that's maybe what people think when they see you running. Yeah, but I don't know. I just immediately think the worst i just want to be in like a solo little room like and no one look at me well then you've got to get you've got to be one of those annoying people with a garage full of gym equipment yeah it parks their car outside and never uses it and then you use it to hang your washing on because it won't dry in winter and the bench press thing's a good um a good thing to hang your washing on because it won't dry in winter. And the bench press thing's a good thing

to hang your socks over. Yeah. It's because of Instagram. We see all those fits by people and we think that's what everyone's like, you know? Right, okay. Wearing matching crop top and pants. Not everyone has matching crop top and pants.

Well, even if you did, you're probably still not going... I wouldn't wear it. No. I sure hope this pre-recorded laughing isn't after something inappropriate to laugh at But I just want to take a moment to say thanks to Spark for sponsoring the Fletch, Vaughan and Megan podcast You can grab Spark's $29 prepaid rollover packs and get stacks of extra value

Back to the podcast Yesterday, I went to get some sausages out of the chest freezer for dinner I love the ever chest freezer, that's such a I'm thinking about getting another one That's such a, I'm thinking about getting another one. That's such a Kiwi phrase what you just said. Chest freezer. I'm going to get some sausages

out of the chest freezer for dinner. Sausages out of the chest freezer in the garage. For dinner. For dinner. So out I went and I got the sausages

and then I was like, I had to dig for the sausages, you see. Yeah, right. I was like, this thing's a bloody shambles, which is another Kiwi phrase when talking about your chest freezer. This thing's a bloody shambles. So I was like, digging. And I was like, this thing's a bloody shambles, which is another Kiwi phrase when talking about your chest freezer.

This thing's a bloody shambles. So I was like digging around. I was like, what doesn't need to be in here? Okay. So I found some pork mince that was best before was 2017. But it's frozen.

Yes, which means we moved with it. I understand that. But with the chest freezer, we literally said to them, bring one of those, there is nothing like a crown for picking it up and putting it down.

One of those things. It slides under and you pump it up and you drag it. So much easier than emptying the chest freezer for moving when we moved.

So they did that. Yeah, right. So the chest freezer just got taped shut and we didn't really clear it out for the move. And so there's some pork mince in there from 2017.

So I got that out. I was like, the dogs will eat that. Wait, clarification. Can you not eat that? Probably. Because it's been frozen. It's been frozen.

But it had the frosty burns. You get those freezers with the little symbols on them. They tell you how long something can be in there. Oh. Yeah. Because I just thought that like stops time, you know? But if you defrost it, you've got to eat it right then and there. Yeah, no.

It can get freezer burn and stuff as well because you're constantly closing them. No, you've got six months worth of pork. I know things don't last nearly as long as you think. No. I totally would have eaten that. A well-wrapped ground pork, as the Americans call it, we'll call it months, will be three months max in the freezer,

according to the National Pork Board. Oh, my God. In my normal freezer, there's stuff in there longer than that. Man, I want to according to the National Pork Board. Oh, my God. In my normal freezer, there's stuff in there longer than that. Man, I want to be on the National Pork Board. Do you just want to be able to say that? Bourne Smith. National Pork Board. Member.

Member of the National Pork Board. Chairman of the Treasurer of the National Pork Board. Yeah. Yes, what a role. So I was digging around. I was clearing it out. Got the sausages. Got some other stuff around I was clearing it out Got the sausages Got some other stuff

That I was going to feed to the dogs And then I found these Zip slide bags Of cookies Like half made cookies Now I remember the origins Of these cookies We had a house sitter once

And she said I made some biscuits For you guys When we got home There were biscuits waiting for us Oh wow Legit eh And then she said

Oh and Like I made a lot of dough, so I've frozen the dough. Now, this happened somewhere before the end of last year, but after 2015. What? So there's a three and a half year window of where this could have happened.

I can't remember exactly where it happened, but I was like, these are biscuits. These are cookie dough. This is cookie dough. And this should be all right. Because it's been in a zip slide bag. Oh, what have you got over there, chest freezer guy? Let me tell you that cookie dough in the freezer can actually last nine to 12 months,

but not recommended for past a couple of weeks in the freezer. It says here. Well, blow me down. So I took them in and Sade was out and I popped them in the oven. On an oven tray with some baking paper. Okay. As you do. Yeah.

And they started baking and they did that thing cookies do. They spread and then they puff up a little bit. Oh, yum. I was like, that sounds, that looks all right to me. And I kept going back and checking them because I like the, I don't like a really like soft, but I like to have a light browning. Yeah, but you don't want to have too much. You don't want to have it too, I don't mind a crispy bit as long as there's a chewy bit

as well. I like the contrast of texture. So I nail that. Yeah. Okay. And I get them out and I let them cool a little bit. Yeah. Sade's still out.

And I pick one of the biscuits up and I'm like, this is good. Like, gooey. And I bit it. Now it was on the first bite that I was like, unusual for a biscuit to have a fishy taste. Maybe it was just that bit. I ate another bit and I was like,

certain beefy quality to it. We're getting beef come through. Maybe it was just that bit. I ate another bit. I was like, kind of a fish and a beef there. But I've only got one bite left, so I'll eat it anyway. You ate the whole manky biscuit.

I ate the whole biscuit. I ate the whole biscuit. And then I thought, maybe it was just me. I'm going to leave the biscuits and see what the rest of the family think. And just not say anything. Well, I don't want to muddy the waters of their biscuits. I don't want to ruin the biscuits before they eat them. I don't want to say, hey, try one of those biscuits.

They taste funny. Because then you put the idea in there. Because Sharlay's like, I'm not tasting it. She wouldn't taste it. So I didn't say anything. She said, when she got home, she said, I might have one of your biscuits. Okay. And I sat at the table and had this strained, help yourself, look on my face because I didn't want to smile.

I didn't want to give it any way. Yeah. And she bit into it and I looked and I caught the exact. What's in these? They taste like fish. And I was like, I know, right? They do. They taste like fish.

I ate one before the whole thing tasted like fish and the third bite tasted like beef. It was, the whole thing was really confusing. She's like, why did you let me eat this biscuit? She was so angry. Why did you let me eat this biscuit? She was so angry. Why did you let me eat this biscuit? I was like, well, I wanted to know if it was just me or if the biscuits were contaminated. What if the girls had eaten it

before me? I said, well, I would have asked for their opinion. Doesn't worry me whose opinion. I just wanted to know that it just didn't taste like fishy biscuits to me. You know, constantly worry that could be a sign of an impending stroke or some sort of

nervous system issue. How did the fish get in there? Well, they'd just been in the freezer for so long. But they'd been in a glant bag. Oh, that was open. Oh my God. It was a little bit

because they get knocked around. But fish was a mystery because we don't often store fish in the freezer. Oh, yuck. That's so bad. Oh, miscellaneous. We get fish fingers

but we kind of keep them in the freezer inside, not the chest freezer in the garage. So anyway, I'm still in a little bit of trouble for making her eat

the fishy biscuits. Fancy though, she wouldn't even finish it. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and't even finish it. Yesterday, there was a press conference and an announcement was made about the Suicide Prevention Office and the ongoing strategy. A man that was there and, as always, speaks so eloquently and passionately on the matter.

Mike King, good morning. Hello, beautiful people. How are you today? Good, thank you. How are you? I'm so cool. My day's all the better for talking to you guys. Stop.

So kind. Some of those journalists, you know, the news people, I think they've lost that feel for people. You know, their questions are all so academic. So it's so cool just to talk to real people, people who are in touch with other real people. Their questions are also academic. So it's so cool just to talk to real people. People who are in touch with other real people. I think that's the coolest thing in the world. It's a real privilege.

We're very pleased to be talking to you this morning. So what's the next step for this? First off, I've got to say one thing. When I was down in Wellington standing beside the Prime Minister, I'm not funded by them. I wasn't there as their puppet. I was there because I read the suicide action plan

and the plans for a suicide prevention office. My first thought was it's about time and they're actually listening. So there's three key points that I think people should take away from this. Number one, it's clearly outlined that this isn't a government issue, that this isn't a DHB issue. This suicide epidemic that we're going through is a New Zealand problem. We are all part of the solution. Now, there's hundreds of little wee community groups out there doing a whole lot of stuff who are being ignored by the NGOs and by the governments, and their voices are not being heard, who are doing great work. There's an acknowledgement

that, yes, they are part of the solution, so that's great. Number two, suicide is no longer solely a mental health or a psychiatric issue. It involves many layers, including disconnection, trauma, and things of that nature. So now if you're having a thought, you're not automatically going to be labeled mentally ill, which is a huge barrier, especially for young people. I don't want to go to the doctor and him tell me that, you know, I'm crazy. It's stopping people from reaching out and asking for help. And three, counseling for families who have lost loved ones to suicide. You know, if you've lost someone to suicide, a family member is four times more likely

to take their own life than someone who hasn't. So we need to help them get over that by giving them counselling for free. So, you know, there are lots of things in there that people are going to find aren't enough. But for me, that's three solid first steps. And I think this government right now has a record of proving that, you know, they'll take another step after the first big step and not try to build everything on one go. Very well said. And I loved a quote from you about not adhering to targets

and saying it's got to come down by 20% because you likened it to a house fire. If you only set out to save 20% of people in a burning house, there's 80% that you've failed. Yeah, you're never going to be like anyone who's happy with that please just get out of the way. Get out of the way. And

people who say if I can just save one life it's all worth it. No. If we're not saving them all, we're failing and we need to do better. It's common sense. Targets set people's mind at ease and we all end up patting ourselves on the back, even though out of 680 people,

there's still, you know, there's still 500 that have still died. It's not right. It's not right and it grates me. Awesome. Well, thanks for the chat this morning, Mike. Always appreciate your time, mate. And keep fighting the good fight.

You know what, brother? It's so cool to see your big, ugly head on TV now. Every time I see you on the TV, I crack up. You give hope to other balding, unusual-looking guys, and you need to pat yourself on the back for that, my brother. Pat yourself on the back for that. Thank you. Mike King, thank you.

Am I a bad person? It's a toughie today. I haven't quite figured out my opinion yet, but I'm interested to see what everyone else thinks. I already know what Vaughan thinks. Hey, Fletch, what am I again? Wait, have you got a booger on your eyelash, on your eyebrow? Has he got something on your eyebrow?

Is it breakfast? Bloody chocolate. Thank you. From you smashing chocolate before, and I've been playing with the rubber mallet. Okay. eyebrow? Has it got something on your eyebrow? Is it bloody chocolate? Thank you from you smashing chocolate before and I've been playing with the rubber

mallet. Okay. I have a situation that I really need some input on. I am a young millennial meat

eater. I live with my partner who I've been with for ages who has become a vegetarian in the last two

years. And while I cook plenty of vegetarian food, I know the supple curves of tofu. Meat will be a forever love for me. Okay. The other day he text to ask

if I needed anything from the supermarket and I said I needed some free range chicken. He text back that he wasn't ethically comfortable buying the chicken because he didn't want to support the meat industry. Even though if he didn't buy it, then I'd just grab it from the shops the next day. I was flabbergasted and we still haven't resolved this, despite me having tried to talk about it with him.

Okay. This hasn't come up before. I know I should respect his veggie values, but honestly, I'm a bit upset about the situation. I would do anything for him and him not wanting to buy me meat has honestly got me questioning if that goes both ways. To me it's just meat but this has really developed into a big issue between us. At this point we do separate cooking and food shopping but it's the future that I'm thinking about. Am I a bad person

for asking my vegetarian boyfriend to buy me meat? And ironically he's also thinking about the future that I'm thinking about. Am I a bad person for asking my vegetarian boyfriend to buy me meat? And ironically, he's also thinking about the future of the planet. Yeah. But she's thinking of the more immediate future with him. Yeah. It's interesting because it's becoming such a big social issue, isn't it? Yeah. Vegans and vegetarians are becoming more, it's a more popular diet.

But then there's always probably going to be some people who choose to eat meat. Meat. Eat meat. It works both ways. Yeah, that works both ways. But then once you've got into a relationship thinking, okay, we're both like on the same diet page and then one person changes, that would happen so often. So yeah, I mean, what do you do? Is she...

So what is the exact question she's asking? Asking her vegetarian boyfriend to buy me meat. Is she a bad person? Yeah. I'm gonna say yes. It was freeing her. She's a bad person. Because that's something that he believes in, you know?

Yeah, right. You can go and get it. Okay, let me put this. You can go and get it yourself. She's going to, okay, so she was asking for free range. So, you know, there's that angle. Yeah, but that's not the issue that he has. But then she is going to jump in her gas guzzling car

and go out of her way to go to the supermarket when he could have got it himself, hence saving the planet from her emissions to go back to the supermarket. Well, she should be better prepared and realise that she needs something. Is he a vegetarian because of the planet issue, he doesn't just like eating meat, like animals. You know what I mean? Like,

because there's multiple reasons for being vegetarian. I love animals. But he might not care about intense farming. Oh, right. Intense farming and the planet. He might just be all about

the treatment of the animals. See, I don't think she is a bad person. But I, she says she eats vegetarian meals and stuff. Why couldn't she just have a vegetarian meal that day

and go and pick up her meat? She wanted him chicken. Sometimes she might have had her heart set on one of those, you know, those Maggi apricot chicken mixes. Oh, yum, yum, yum. When she said, I would do anything for him, but now I'm wondering if it would go the same way. Doesn't that, she needs to support,

she's saying I'll do everything for you, but I want, like, you've got to support him for all the way. That's something he believes in. I think we need to answer this question today. Is she a bad person? I mean, not a bad person, but I'm kind of siding with him. And I also want to hear from people that have been in this situation where maybe it is a deal breaker in a relationship because it is just too hard. Yeah. Maybe it is a deal breaker in a relationship because it is just too hard.

Yeah. Can you imagine if Sade suddenly, Vaughn's wife was like, oh, I think I'm going to be vegetarian. And then she's like, I'm not bringing you home. What would you actually do? Have you seen her eat ribs? That woman ain't becoming a vegetarian around here. I'm saying. Shannon, I've never seen a chicken wing she couldn't demolish.

But if she did do a complete 180, how would you feel about that? I would just be more annoyed if I was like, can you pick me up some chicken? And she's like, no, I can't ethically buy that. I can't have meat in the car. Yeah, I'd be like, don't be like that. Just get it. You're not eating it. It's already there. It's already in the supermarket. It's done, mate. You're not resuscitating

that chicken. It's gone. It's gone. It's just ethical values. Bring it home. He doesn't want to be a part of the meat industry. Okay, so okay, fine. Don't bring chicken. I'll have some bacon instead. So here's the question. 0800DALS at M. You can text 9696.

Am I a bad person for asking my vegetarian boyfriend to buy me meat? And I want to hear as well from people that have had an ethical dilemma in their relationship. Give us a call. Am I a bad person? Oh, it's a tough one today. So we've received a message. Am I a bad person? Just quickly to catch you up. So it's a tough one today. So we've received a message. Am I a bad person? Just quickly to catch you up.

So it's been a few years. The boyfriend wasn't a vegetarian at the start, but is now a vegetarian. The girlfriend asked the boyfriend to pick up some chicken for her, free-range chicken. He denied because he doesn't want to support the meat industry. So she wants to know, is she a bad person for asking her vegetarian boyfriend to buy her meat?

Wait, so that's interesting. Somebody messaged in saying if he's just a vegetarian, his heart's not really in it. Oh my God. We're not here to judge his choices. If he's so, if his values are so instilled and he doesn't want to support the meat industry, he should be full vegan by now. Yeah, but cheese is so yum because I could go vegetarian, but I couldn't go vegan.

Cheese. Cheese. And eggs. And eggs, yeah. Cheese and eggs. We're not here to judge his choices, okay? He's decided that this is the lifestyle he wants.

I think that's exactly what the segment's for. We give it a specific question. She's a bad person, but she's not because he's only half-assing this whole vegan thing. Oh my God. All right, well, a lot of calls and messages. Annalise, is she a bad person, but she's not because he's only half-assing this whole vegan thing. Oh my god. Alright, well a lot of calls and messages. Annalise,

is she a bad person for asking him to pick up chicken? I don't think she's a bad person. I just think it's a matter of like they need to have that talk. Like, hey, are you comfortable with buying the meat for me? If he's like, no, she should just never ask him again. But if he's like, oh, I mean, you know, I'm vegan

and I still buy meat for my partner because either way, it's coming out of the same bank account, it's still going to be bought, right? True, yeah. Yeah, but was that initially hard for you to do when you're like at the supermarket staring at all the meat? Yeah, I mean, I usually avoid that aisle like completely, but I mean, he's going to have to just come down,

like you said, in his own car and buy it anyway, so why not just get it while I'm there? I mean, it's kind of hard, but, I mean, I'm not really making a difference if I don't buy it for him, right? Yeah. I agree, I agree. Megan?

No, that's your choice, and I think, like, he is obviously not on the same page as you. It's the only thing. Okay, thanks, you're cool. Lisa, what do you think? Is she a bad person for asking your boyfriend to pick up chicken? I don't think she's a bad person, but I think it raises a good question of

if he's that anti-doing something for her, what's going to happen if they have a child? Is he going to be okay if she gives her child meat? Or is he going to insist that their child is vegetarian? Like, it kind of poses a whole bunch of other questions that she needs to be thinking about. I don't think it's just that. Like a conversation that needs to be had by the sound of it.

It starts there and then you go out for dinner and you're being judged for getting wings. Yeah. I shall not be judged for getting wings. Yeah. I shall not be judged for eating wings. Things you call Lisa. Anton, is she a bad person?

I mean, she's not a bad person. You can ask people to do stuff every day but if she's not going to play ball, I guess she's going to get a bigger piece of meat.

A size seven chicken or another person? She can get another chicken or another person? Just get another chicken and another person. I mean, it will work both ways. And I enjoy the chicken together. Yeah, it's a very... Just go and have a rosé.

Yeah, okay. Have a bit of chicken. Yeah, lovely. But she loves a manton, apart from this one little ish. And then if you can't sort it out, go to cancer therapy or something, couple therapy.

If it doesn't work, then I don't know what to do. I'm not an expert. Oh, my God, I love you. I think you'd make a great relationship coach, Anton. It's very simple. It's a play on one. You've got to be true to yourself. I love you.

You like lettuce, you go that way, I'll go this way. Cool. Have a good day. Brilliant, Anton. Thank you for your call, mate. I like meat. You like lettuce. You go that way, I'll go this way. Cool. Have a good day. Brilliant. Anton, thank you for your call, mate. Some text messages in. Somebody said she's not a bad person, but I also feel like he's just doing that thing that I do.

When I'm at the supermarket, my wife asks me to grab something. I'm like, oh, I've already left, even though I haven't. Just because you don't want to eat it for dinner. No, you don't want to eat that for dinner. No, you don't want to eat it for dinner all year. Can't be bothered going back to that part of the supermarket. Generally, I'd say generally people are saying she's not a bad person. Okay, right. She's not a bad person.

You need to have a good old combo with your boyfriend though. Because there's going to be some issues if it's just starting now. Also, I like the text from someone saying you should be supportive of vegans and vegetarians because it takes the pressure off the carnivores. They're saving the planet so you can keep to your meeting.

So we can play a bit loose with the planet. Or you can eat more meat. Sort of like the balance of power. Yeah, you should be supporting them doing their bit. Oh, no, I'm supporting them doing their bit, as long as it doesn't impact me. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Today's fact of the day is about corn.

Okay. Okay. Not the late 90s, early 2000s new metal band corn. Okay. The vegetable. C-O-R-N. C-O-R-N, not K-O backwards R-N. This is about corn.

Grow corn growing up, you would have had corn in your vegetable garden. Vegetable garden. Mom and dad had corn in their vegetable garden? Yeah. Mom and dad had corn in their vegetable garden. Vegetable garden? Yeah. No, we never had corn. You just have to grow it

in groups, eh? In little clusters. Yeah, you do. You have to grow it in a cluster of corn. Like in, yeah, a couple of rows. Sweet corn.

Well, today's fact of the day about corn is, you know, you'll be familiar with corn silk. The silky stuff that comes out the end of the corn.

You peel off the outer. That's what they're called. Corn silk. Yeah, I didn't know it had a name either. The hair. Yeah.ky stuff that comes out the end of the corn? You peel off the outer... That's what it's called. Corn silk. Yeah, I didn't know it had a name either. The hair. Yeah, the hair that grows out the end of the corn cob. Yeah. And when you get it straight off the plant,

you have to like break it all off and shrew it off. And it is kind of silky. It is a silky thing there. So today's fact of the day is each one of those strands of corn silk is attached to an air of corn. What? A little knobbly bit of corn. The knobbly bit of corn

that makes a kernel of corn. Yeah. Each one of those strands of silk is attached to individual kernels of corn. Each one has one? Each one has one. Really? So it's like their little, it's like a little air pipe or a...

It's like a little umbilical cord. Wow. So apparently part stigma, part style. Yeah. It gives a female flower surface to which pollen grains can adhere. So, you know, the making of the bit. And the stigma is the very tip of it has a large number of hairs

to help pollen adhere to the corn on a whole. Question, if I took my snips and I just nipped one off, would it die? Would you open up that bit of corn

and would it be all like black or brown? Maybe, because you know how sometimes you'll peel a corn husk and there'll be like a little cluster of kernels that have gone a bit skew-iff.

Right. Huh. That's interesting. I don't know. Well, that's something to do in the garden this summer. You need some snips. Run a little experiment. Yeah.

And snip. So apparently there is a bug, the Western corn rootworm. Yeah. It goes up this corn silk, eating the pollen, but will get to the bottom and clip them off, and that can be problematic if you get a big lot of those. Oh, okay. So maybe you've got a point there.

Maybe that's exactly what happens with the – Yeah, right. They clip it off, so you lose a kernel, and if they do it to too many, well, your corn's absolutely buggered. Then you know sweet corn. How good is a bit of sweet corn though? Even raw is so good. Excuse me.

I really thought I was going to be met with this, girl. Amen. No, what are you, nuts? Yeah, eat the kernels raw, anyone? You're on your own. Wait. Eat it raw. Not out of a tin.

No, straight off the cob. You peel a corn and you just eat a corn. Yeah. What is wrong with you? What are you in your nuts? That's bananas. It's sweet and juicy. Are you cutting mine?

Not cold. Boil it. It's got to have a real butter on it. Boil it, steam it, yeah. Butter. You pull the end open. You pull the end. If you like raw corn, you're going to love this cooked corn, Megan.

You pull the end open and you like raw corn, you're going to love this cooked corn, Megan. You pull the end open and you just force butter in. And if you've got liquid butter, get it at the ghee, get that in a syringe and get it in there, then shut it back up again and roll it around on the barbecue for ages. I just had to Google ostracized before I said it. I do feel

ostracized this morning. Really? Yes. To be excluded from a society or a group, based on my beliefs. Of eating raw dog corn? Oh, sure. You and that guy that won't get the chicken from the supermarket. I know. And I sided with him and it's all downhill.

A couple of ostracised individuals. Cream corn is the ultimate in a toasty, a toasted sandwich with a cheese. That's, and a bit of onion. That's my favourite. Oh my God, I'm back in the group. I'm back in the group. I could never get into cream corn on a toasted sandwich with a cheese. That's and a bit of onion. That's my favourite. Oh my God, I'm back in the group. I'm back in the group. Cream corn, cheese. I could never get into cream corn on a toasted sandwich.

Why? Because it oozes out. Spaghetti was your better option. Put some onion with it. Red onion. There we go, onion and cheese. Cheese and onion on a toasty. And cream corn.

You know what never belongs on a toasty? Tomato. Oh my God, I'm back in the group. Tomato becomes lava. But you eat raw corn. You'm back in the group. Tomato becomes lava. But you eat raw corn. You're out of the group. Someone said they'll put raw corn in a salad, Megan. You ever rub a knife down a raw corny?

Oh, my God. Load up a salad with some raw corn kernels? No. That sounds disgusting. Have you tried it? You should try it. You should try it. No, I've never started rolling a little bit more now, Megan.

So much sweeter when it's raw. Great in a salad. Thank you. I've found my people. I'm with Megan. Raw corn off the cob. I'm with you, Megan. Raw corn.

The way to go. You can eat it in the paddock. Okay, so I'm just amongst ignorant fuels, and I've got to go find my people. Megan's sitting cross-legged in a corn paddock. She's going, nom, nom, nom. That's so nice. That sounds like bliss, actually. That's so nice. That sounds like bliss, actually.

Doesn't it? Yeah. So today's fact of the day is every piece of that corn silk that comes out the end of a corn cob connects to a kernel of corn. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. So, someone is requesting your naked photos. It is in the name of science. There is a Twitter account.

This sounds like a trap, but I don't think... Yeah, like instantly I'm like, well, who is this science? Yeah. And why do they want our pictures? A developer and internet harassment activist named Kelsey Bressler has started the account showyodiq. Okay. That doesn't sound official. And she is asking for people to send in their own photos Y-O-D-I-Q Okay.

And she is asking for people to send in their own photos in order to train a filter that she's making, the artificial intelligence's filter. So in order to be able to recognise and block the... The picture. The pictures. The banana picture. They need to be able to recognise the banana. Artificial intelligence needs to know all the options available in banana.

Yeah, all different kinds of bananas. Eggplant. Yeah. Emoji. So do we know that this Kelsey is real or not just some guy who's sitting at home that just wants to see some bananas and eggplants? She might be someone who is sitting at home wanting to see some bananas, but she is also still developing the app. So it has been clarified

that she is building the filter and she has received a lot of them, but she did tweet, need MOAR bananas. Need more, right. She didn't say that. I need more bananas.

So she said it's been working? Yeah, the filter has been successful and picking up bananas. Need more, right. She didn't say that. I need more bananas. Yeah. So she said it's been working? Yeah, the filter has been successful in picking up the vast majority and blocking them. The two exceptions. What were the two exceptions? Like imagine if you sent her a photo

and the AI didn't recognise your junk. It's almost like guys were like, I'm going to get through this. I'm going to figure out a way that it won't recognise it. So one. Complete strangers have been doing this.

Yeah. Wow. So there's two exceptions. One was covered in glitter. And the filter didn't recognise that. Because I suppose it would be a lot on sort of like shape and. Yeah. The shading, the difference in colour.

Sure. But if it's glittered from the eye to the bottom. Sparkly purple, I mean. What was the other exception? A man had placed his banana in a cage. Despite all my rage

I'm still just a dick in a cage. Wow. Okay, that's... What is up with you guys in life? No, no, no. I don't say you guys. She set forth a challenge and she was me.

She didn't set forth a challenge. No, it is important that we test the AI. It's got to know in all circumstances that it's a banana or an eggplant. Okay, so now that's not getting through. Thank goodness for that one man who saved humanity single-handedly by putting it in a cage. George is next door. She's just literally put a banana in her mouth.

She was listening to you intently peeling a banana almost in a daze and then as he took it off. Enjoy that banana, George. Enjoy it. Everybody. Before AI blocks that. God, you're allowed to take more than three bites, George. You don't have to eat the whole thing like that.

Pawn. I'm just saying. Come on from the side, turf people. I'm just talking about it. All right. This is why. Fat. This is why.

Fat. This is why. This is why. This is why. Fat. Why did you just point at me? Because behind you there's a date on when the Pineapple Lumps chocolate's out. This was our last episode.

It's a Wednesday and this is already our second episode of This Is Why I'm Fat. We've had a lot of Noms news. Yeah, big week for Noms. Big week for Noms. The Pineapple Lumps chocolate officially will be out in New Zealand. Are you waiting for me? Yeah, in your own time, mate. Where does it say?

On that press release. 16th of September. Where did you read that? Man, you're fast. The bottom line. Oh, yeah, okay. Megan does three words a minute. We got there. The bottom line. Oh, yeah, okay. Megan does three words a minute. We got there.

Just really slow. Fast reader. Also coming to our attention, before we get to the homemade noms, in Fames, I believe, Vaughan. Yeah, Fames. Producer James noticed this on Facebook last night, didn't you?

Pack and Save posted this. Some nommies. Well, you can see from the figures, the post went off for Hamilton Pack and Save. Okay, so they posted this at 4.32pm Well, you can see from the figures, the post went off for a Hamilton packing tape. Okay, so they posted this at 4.32pm. Oh, so this was... No, and you screenshotted this at 6am. And it's got 7.5 thousand comments and 2.3 thousand likes.

And 400 shares. I mean, you can see why though, because it's big news. Yeah, picnic, Kit Kat, and crunchy ice creams. Picnic ice cream. Now, the Kit Kat and picnic are on a stick, and the crunchy looks like it's a big log. Now, I know they've done crunchy before. Yeah, they've done like ice cream.

It almost looks like an Eskimo pie size crunchy. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Noms. Okay, so I feel like the picnic needs further explanation. It's not throughout. It's just like it's like a Memphis meltdown or a magna, but it's all in the shell. Right. Why do you seem disappointed?

You've been holding my phone too long. Can I scroll through this? How far can I scroll? Absolutely not. That's a group chat. It's a scroll allowance. There would not have been much of a scroll allowance. Hey, dirty dog. Right.

Speaking of dirty little packages, if we go to Thames, I can tell you about a deep fried dirty little package. Okay. There is a donut at a Thames bakery called the Delish Bakery. De- Hyphen. Comma. De-comma. Yep.

Lish. Delish Bakery in Thames, where inside that deep-fried little package is a donut. Okay. So it's a deep-fried donut, but go further inside and you'll find a blend of beef mints, carrots and onion, along with a tasty gravy,

usually reserved for a pie. However, you'll find it now inside a deep fried, sweet yet savoury donut. So is the outside of the donut cinnamon or sugar coated? It looks more batter-y to me. Oh, yeah, that looks more like a breadcrumb batter, doesn't it? Yeah. Like you get on the outside of a fish or something. Maybe like a panko. Yeah.

A fine panko. South Africans do a deep fried donut filled with meat. Yeah, it looks like that. It's called a fit cook. Yeah, but South Africans have weird taste. One married you. Shut your face. You're absolutely sass on this bitch today, eh?

You are a bitch today. So the bakery owners, Kyoko and Takashi Sato, have been making them for five years. Sato. Sato have been making them for five years lately, selling out by 11am every day. So if you're going through Thames, the early bird catches the mince donut.

I'd try that. I'd try that. It does look nice. There's a steamed pork bun quality to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks like that because the steamed pork bun's got a sweeter bread around it with a barbecue pork in the middle. Yep.

And then add on top of that sort of a crumbing and then a deep frying. Now I want to do yum cha. I'm telling you, you need to try a fit cook. Fit cook starts with a V though. Huh? Fit cook. You need to have a fit cook. Excuse me?

Is this the South African thing? It's South African donuts with the mints inside. Vet cook. V-E-T. No, it's V-O-E-T something, something, something. K something. Does this even speak in English over there? No, I's V-O-E-T something, something, something. Jesus. K something. Does this even speak in English over there? No, I'm not.

V-E-T-K-O-E-K. Yeah, Google that. Okay. It's deep fried donut with mints in it. There's no pictures though. I always want pictures of my recipes. I don't like when they don't have pictures. I've just got a list of things I have to do.

Have you ever intended another one to add to the noms list? This is why I'm fat. This is why I'm fat. This is why, this is why, this is why I'm fat.