ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - September 25 2019

Episode Date: September 24, 2019

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ZM. Head music. Lives here. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. Welcome to the world that we live in. Why do you deserve this award? For a lot of things. But this is not fair. I just do. I just do. There's been a person that's divided so many people in a long time, let alone giving him the Nobel Peace Prize. Welcome to the show, Fleeche Warner, Megan. Good morning. Good morning.

Coming out of the top six, I believe, Vaughan, you're going to deal with this, young police cadet. Yeah, so shut himself in the buttocks. That's right in the buttocks. The top six other things. He's never going to live that down. Do we know, is it a he or a she?

Are we wrong, Lea? I think you said he. You said he? He. Yep, he. Okay, just checking. Thank you. It's good to check.

The top six other things that would get you sent home from police college. All right, you lot, listen up. It's story time. Well, as usual, I've found three news headlines for interesting odd, quirky news stories. Vaughan and Megan, you've got to pick one of the following three. Headline one, police end standoff with a can.

Headline two, a woman with two vaginas defies odds. And headline three, two six-year-olds arrested. Two six-year-olds arrested. Two six-year-olds arrested. I can't get past two vaginas. I know that story.

I know we know that. Do you know that story? So she was born with two uteruses, like two everything, two women parts. The lot. And they said that she wouldn't be able to have children and then she had two sets of twins. Correct. Two sets of twins at once.

So four in there at a time. Or she's had, this is her second lot of twins. I think she had one child and then she had two sets of twins. But they were like, whoa, okay, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. But she was a teenager, I think, before she found out that she had two sets of everything.

Because she used to get quite a bit of pain. And they were like, hang on a second. That is something else. I'm not sure if you had two penises. It's happened though, hasn't it? It has. Yeah, because the guy wrote a book, didn't he? Yeah.

Or did he do a Reddit? He didn't Reddit AMA, I think. Now I'm going to have to search it. Yeah, he definitely. I am getting like deja vu. I definitely feel like I've searched this stuff. Yeah, I am the man with two penises to ask me anything. Two functioning penises.

Yeah. Is there a picture? Yeah. It's black and white. I don't know if they thought that would be more like flattering. Oh, goodness. I'm looking at a different one. Oh, show me.

Diophallus, they call it. Right, okay. Whoa! Whoa! I was not expecting. They're identical twins too. I thought maybe what like... Oh, they're a little bit different ones wearing slightly longer skivvy.

Wow. Hey, well, it's eight minutes past six and both of you two have just searched penises on the work computers. Yeah. Whoa. And now I'm into the most weirdest penises of the animal world. Shut down your browser, please, Megan. Shut it down. I need to get out of this. I need to get out of this.

I need to get out of this. Okay, so we know that. What was three and one again there? Police in standoff with a can and two six-year-olds arrested. Two six-year-olds? Police in standoff with a can. Is that what you want? With a can?

Or two six-year-olds arrested. I'm easy. I'm not going to fight it today. You want the can? No I'm easy. I'm not going to fight it today. You want the can? No, you choose. I'm not going to fight the good fight. You choose. The can, yeah, all right, the can.

You choose as Megan goes back to her laptop and buries her head in the internet. Brilliant. Is that in Florida, the two six-year-olds? I believe so, yeah. This story also in Florida, Daytona Beach, where police had a standoff at the Ocean Breeze Hotel on Saturday morning. Police received reports that a man had barricaded himself inside the hotel room and had a hand grenade.

So he was the only person inside the room. There were initial reports that apparently there were other people in there, maybe a female. But they were quick to dispel that, said Daytona Police Deputy Chief. They evacuated the hotel and they started talking with the man and it went on for some time. He was barricaded in his hotel room

and that's when they offered him a soda, a can of soda. They said, we'll leave it outside the door. It's a goodwill from us. Keep can of soda. They said, we'll leave it outside the door. Just, it's a good will from us. Yeah. Keep the talk going. He opened his hotel door to grab the soda and they tasered him. I was going to say, they better.

He felt old, it's tricking the book. Did he get the soda after he woke up from the tasering? No, it just says we sat the coke outside in the hallway. We convinced him to come out and grab the coke, at which time we were able to tase him and get him safely into custody. So I don't even think it opened. So they couldn't trust him after all. They would have got me too.

Yeah. They were like, yeah, come get a coke. I know that would end a hostage situation for me. Food. Yeah. Tanks. Some caramel fletch. Yes.

All right, I'll come out with my hands up. I would have got something and opened the door a little bit and then used that to drag it in. Wise. Yeah, I wouldn't have stuck my arm out. I would have been like, here's like a triple smoke, slow roasted meaty something. And I would have been like, put it there,

and I would have opened the door just a little bit and just dragged it in. And then if they'd tased the broomstick, which I would have put a shirt on to make it look like an arm, I would have said, I can't trust you after all. That's it. And you're back in there. Hand grenade time.

Yeah, right. Okay. That's what I would have tried anyway. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. September 26th, tomorrow, is the most popular birthday in the world. Really? Yeah. More people born, and if you track that back the nine months,

that's Christmas. That's Christmas. Boxing day. Boxing day, right. That sort of area. Boxing day babies. Yeah. Of conception.

I would have thought it would have been like New Year's. That's big as well. You're like, on the lead up to Christmas, you're like stressed out. Christmas day, you're really full. I guess your boxing day, you're like, should we start Christmas Day? You're really full. I guess your boxing day, you're like. I'm just looking at my Facebook birthdays. Ross Sponsor's birthday today. Yes.

So his parents must have had Christmas Day. Or around that. 16 times. Around that. Because you're very rarely born exactly on the nine months before. It's always floating around that area. Yeah, Danny from work, she's tomorrow. Is she?

You're right, though. September is always a busy month, isn't it? Yeah, it's going from now until the next couple of weeks is always big because then you move into the New Year's, babies. Yeah. Yeah, because people have time off and they're relaxed and they're like feeling themselves. They're a bit frisky.

It's warm. Yeah. Sometimes it gets a bit warm though A bit too warm And you get a bit What are you looking at there? What's that? Is that all your Facebook friends by month? Yeah

How did you do that? It's done a new thing where If you click on You can go to events and birthdays And then it'll For every month Put a round It'll put their profile picture

And it's interesting Because you go down And then you get to February Pretty quiet in February Pretty quiet And then you know You're May, you're June Pretty quiet in February. Pretty quiet. And then, you know, your May, your June, pretty quiet. And then, boom, August.

September is one of the biggest ones on my Facebook feed. When the baby making happens. It's crazy, actually, to see that like that. So, in the UK, they expect more than 2,000 babies to be born tomorrow, which is higher than 1,800 births a day,

which is their standard. Right. Even that's a lot. 1,800 births a day, which is their standard. Right. Which is, even that's a lot. 1,800 people born in one country in a day. Yeah. That's a lot. So yeah, around about, but then, so they're the Northern Hemisphere. Yeah.

And then we're the Southern Hemisphere. So season at time of conception, vastly different there. They're in like a wintry Christmas. We're in like a hot summer. But apparently it's similar in New Zealand and the US. So it's not weather related? No. Is it because you're stuck inside?

You know, you're doing the Christmas thing. It's Boxing Day. Most people wouldn't say you're stuck inside. No, in the UK you would be. Oh, in the UK, yeah, yeah, yeah. And also in the Northern Hemisphere, if you have a baby around now, they'll be able to start school at the start of the school year. So like the February babies or the March babies in New Zealand,

they start and they automatically start in year one. But if you get a bit further down the track during the year, you've got to do like year zero and then start again year one. And you spend longer. Is that a disadvantage? Does that explain you, Megan? When did you start? Excuse me, I was born in July. See, this is weird. She's had an extra six months schooling compared to me.

But you wouldn't like... And what are you trying to say? You're smarter. Excuse me, I correct you often. Often, Megan? It's got no T in it. It said often, okay. So Serena Williams, her birthday.

Tomorrow. September 26th. Okay. Then they tried to make a list of other famous people, but it's like American poet and the woman who was in the first Terminator movie. So they need, I guess, a better list of high-profile people born on this day. What did we say? It was $18 million for Powerball tonight. Yes.

And we've always heard that money doesn't make you happy. You've got to be happy within yourself. I'm willing to do a study. There was studies in the past done that said that it doesn't bring you happiness. And then we've always heard that people blow the money and then they're like, oh, sad, and the other side, oh, no. There's been a new study. This has been done by the German Socioeconomic Panel, and they studied a group of 342 people who had lottery wins in the past 15 years.

Okay. To find if they had had a significant happiness boost or whether it had gone the other way. Made them miserable. Yeah. Or they just had carried on the same, I guess. So they have discovered that they have, the lottery wins has raised the people's satisfaction

with their overall income and the lottery wins had increased the people's satisfaction with their overall life. The positive effect was especially pronounced in households that had experienced big wins. So the bigger the win, the bigger the satisfaction. Well, obviously. So the more money you win, the happier and more

satisfied you are. Obviously. People always say money can't buy happiness. It's like, oh, I don't know. Yeah. I'd give it a go. Like not struggling to pay for things. It would definitely get rid of stresses. Yeah.

And then therefore make you happy. So people who won the amount of 100,000 euros or above were the happiest. So those are big ones. Wow. So yeah, okay. But 100,000 euros. Million or just 100,000 euros? 100,000.

Oh, wow. Okay. So in the scheme of like lottery, that's not huge, is it? No, no, that's not huge. If it's euros, that's double 200,000? Yeah, just under 200,000 New Zealand dollars. That would make me pretty happy. Of course it would.

Yeah, but I was thinking millions. It doesn't even have to be that much. But would it make you happy if you won, say, for example, you've got a ticket into Knight's Lotto and 20 people win it? Yeah, no, it's not going to make me as happy as if I'd just been the one person to win it. Yeah, yeah. It's still just under a million, right? Yeah, a million a bit.

You'd still be happy? I'd be stoked. But knowing that you could have been the only one to win that and win 18 million. You can't be like that. Back to feeling grumpy. Oh, no, I've still got a million dollars. Now I'm happy. Yeah.

Yeah. But I could have had 18 million Yeah But I've got a million Which is more than I had Yeah But less than I could have had Well if you win tonight

Happiness It does bring you happiness Happiness awaits From the ZM Think Tank This is the Top 6 A police officer has shot himself in the buttock while putting a Glock pistol in a holster on a training course. Now that's going to hurt.

In New Zealand at the police college. Yes. Wow. Yeah. Ouch. In the butt. Oh, buddy. It's never going to live that down.

No. How does the holster sit on the... Does it sit on the back a bit more? Because if it sat on the side, how would you shoot yourself in the butt? You'd almost have to... Angelina Jolie, bend the bullet around the corner. Maybe he was trying to find the holster. He's like, is it like this?

Fidgeting around. Oh, my God. Straight through the ass. Is that you done from, like, police? I don't know. Can we have a police officer for that? Well, he's learning. So accidental discharge of weapons has led to criminal charges

being laid against police officers in the past. Does it count if you shoot yourself in the bum? Yeah, well, I don't know. Right. Wow. That would... Ouch. That would really hurt.

Oh, you're never going to live that down. At the very least, you'd need a little bit of a break to go home from police college and think about what you've done. And a donut to sit on. It's like Police Academy, the movie, if you guys remember those 80s and 90s classics.

Aren't you for a reboot? I don't know. I think we leave them. I don't know if they'd be suitable. They're not aged well. No. Well, some things

would have to be removed. Like all the sexual harassment. And the boobies. Yeah, lots of that sort of stuff. So the top six things that you could get sent home from police college for are number six,

tasering your own genitals. Reholstering the taser and deploying it straight into your pocket. Yeah. Hits the genitals at the end, digs in its little barbs. Oh, I forgot about the barbs. And then you panic and you pull the trigger and you tase your genies. It's going to be a...

Imagine you did find yourself on the wrong end of the law and they deploy their tasers but they're a terrible shot and they do hit you in the bolos or the genitals. It's bound to happen. There'd be that moment where you look at each other before the shot comes, and you're like, okay, I give up. Or weird time to find out your kink.

Sure. I don't think that's a kink. Don't kink shame someone's listing right now. And a taser? Okay, sure. Number five on the list of the top six things that could get you sent home from police college. Handcuffing yourself to the bed frame at the weekend

for some fun and games and realising you left the keys at the station. Yeah. Maybe. Is it one key fits all for handcuffs? I don't know. If it's a one key fits all situation. No doubtful.

I'd imagine dragging your whole bed frame down and missed a minute to get them to... We're just calling out a mobile locksmith. They've probably seen that. I bet you they have. Yeah. How would you call them? Someone would have to call them on your behalf. Yeah.

Number four on the list of the top six things that you could get sent home from police college for. Pepper spraying yourself in the face because you're holding the can backwards. We've all done that with an aerosol or, you know, going to a point. Or it gets your finger and it makes your finger real cold. Oh, yeah. Because you're over the nozzle. You get it on the finger if it's pepper spraying and then you forget to wash it effectively and then you wipe the corner of your eye.

You've maced yourself. Number three on the list of the top six things that could get you sent home from police college. Doing ninja moves with your police baton and cracking yourself upside the head. Because you know it's got that little handle on the side you could really get that swing in your... I imagine you doing this.

I'd imagine the tonk of a police baton hitting a head. Because you only ever see them in a riotous situation and there's lots of other noise. Yeah. But you imagine in the still quiet of your concrete floor, tin-walled garage. Yeah. Tonk! It'd just be such a meaty crack.

Yeah. And down you go. Number two on the list of the top six things that could get you sent home from police college. Parking your police patrol vehicle at the top of a hill and not applying a brake. And having it roll down a hill into a kindergarten. Good Lord. On a Saturday though, so it's lucky no one was there. Yeah.

You're less than the hard way. It's a very specific job. I'd leave it there so the kids on Monday had a cool thing to look at. My girls always got really excited when a fire engine came to the kindy and they'd have a look through it. They got pretty jazzed on those emergency vehicles. Heck, I'm fully grown. I still get jazzed on an emergency vehicle.

Do they still like emergency vehicles or have they gone off those? They're still like, yeah. Okay. Yeah, ambulances and stuff. Yeah, right. With a siren. You never grow out of that. And number one on the list of the top six things that could get you sent home from police college

are when your canine unit is about to catch a crim and they look really cute just before they do it. So you stop for a little cute photo and a tummy scratch and a good boy treat. And the crim gets away. Yeah. Yeah. Basically, that'll happen. But man, when German shepherds are about to get their bite on, they look so cute.

They just look so cute. That is today's top six. Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast. ZM. A guy in Australia, this is quite a massive story, and it feels like we're learning more and more about it. Right. This guy in Australia, in Brisbane, he posted originally,

he's added a Facebook page called Netflix Australia hyphen Brisbane. Okay. Specifically for the Brisbane area. Right. And it was this post that said, hey Fortitude Valley Brisbane. I don't know what that is. That's like where all the bars are and stuff. Right, right. We're on the hunt for people who might like to show us their crazy party side for

main documentary on camera, anonymously or not, and also have anonymous no faces, names, voices, etc. Chats with us to compile for a Netflix original series documentary next year. It sounds like you or your crew tagged them or messaged us. We want to explore binge drinking, kick-ons

and all the things that come with having a night out. Get in touch, we'll have a coffee, et cetera, et cetera. Right. So people contacted Netflix saying, is this connected? And they're like, absolutely not. Oh, no. That has nothing to do with us.

And they have renamed themselves Netflix Originals, to which Netflix are like, still nothing to do with us. Because if you're going to make a TV show for any TV company or any company like Netflix, you can't claim to be, this is why you have an outside production house and you sell them the completed product. Yeah.

But this guy's saying he's a freelance. He's freelance for Netflix. And Netflix is like, that's not how Netflix works. Right. Okay. That's not how we do it. So why has he done this? Well, it goes on and it gets a little bit weird

because apparently he did this on a Facebook page last year looking for people as well saying, I've got a gig to pitch a TV documentary with Netflix. I'm working on one in Brisbane. Remember, it's a pitch so no one here gets paid. Right. Until we sell it on to Netflix. But we just want to catch up with the drinking and socialising scene in Brisbane.

But he's also done this before, claiming to be doing it for a local TV station, Channel 7. Yeah. He's also claimed to have been doing it with connections to sell on to HBO and the BBC. One girl caught up with him for a coffee and he gave her a T-shirt that he'd made himself that said Netflix production with the Netflix N underneath it. She said he gave me uniforms and everything to try to recruit fellow Brisbaneians.

Yeah. Brisbaneites to recruit fellow Brisbaneians. Yeah. Brisbaneites to be part of this. And then when people looked into his Facebook profile further back, he claimed that he had just moved in a Facebook Live video from Los Angeles to Brisbane. And he was lost. But it turns out he's lived in Australia his whole life. He's from Toowoomba.

Right. He's never lived in LA. He's not from LA. His Tinder profile, because someone's gone deep dive. Yeah, they've deep dived. They've done a deep dive. He claims that his occupation is a freelance pitch producer at Netflix. So is he just trying to make checks or something?

That's the thought of it, yes. But there are people who have done this around the world with far shadier intentions of it, yes. But there are people who have done this around the world with far shadier intentions. Yeah, right. But nobody knows if there are any situations so far where this guy's taken it any further than that. That's just sad. Apparently he has used it.

The girl that got the T-shirt said he uses it to try to get free drinks at bars and stuff. Right, okay. To be like, I'm going to be making this documentary. Yeah, yeah, and we'll feature your bar. That's a lot of effort to go to to get some free drinks. Yeah. Yeah, and some girls' phone numbers.

Because I'm assuming, has he been charged? Or, like, what's the deal? Has he done anything wrong? He's previously been charged for forging prescriptions. Okay. He was sentenced to nine months imprisonment for that. He pleaded guilty to 23 offences. But he was sentenced to nine months imprisonment

but immediately released on parole. Right. So he's a shady character. He's a shady, unusual dude. Free taxi service on a Saturday parole. Right. So he's a shady character. He's a shady, unusual dude. Free taxi service on a Saturday night. Okay. In 2015. He reminds me of the Fyre Fest guy.

What's his name? Billy. Is it Billy? Yeah. Yeah. Just shady. A little bit shifty. Loves pulling the wool over people's eyes.

A little bit shifty. Well, I guess we can all learn from this. If someone claims they're making a Netflix documentary, at least it's David Farrier because he actually made one, didn't he? Yeah, but he doesn't work for Netflix until it's on Netflix. So if anyone says, I'm making a Netflix doco, question. Question. Question mark that.

Question it. Be careful. Well, so it's on binge drinking and stuff. They're not going to show you in a good light, are they? They're not going to be like... No, no, no. It's not going to be a good portrayal. No, you probably want to give that one a miss.

Yeah. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. Some experts on how to put together a CV have used the Marie Kondo strategy. They've said you need to absolutely declutter it. Just like strip it down. Right. So for those that don't know, Marie Kondo did the Netflix show where If it doesn't bring you joy, yeah. If it doesn't spark joy

get rid of it. Or trade me it. Thank it for its service and then get rid of it. So yeah, basically you need to strip down your CV. Go on other days. People don't expect because I haven't done a CV for a long time. Actually, I don't know if I ever really did one. What about with your cafe?

Because have you hired people? Have they had to send in a CV? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And people don't expect photos anymore. You used to have to put marital status on it. You don't have to do that anymore.

I don't know why that was ever really relevant. I always thought photos were a no-no and now photos were more acceptable. Oh, really? Apparently not. I think the rule is only use a photo if you're hot. If you're hot, yeah. Like, let's be honest. If you're a minger, it's not going to help, is it?

What if you don't know that you're not hot? You'll find out. Born. You won't get your job. You have a really high opinion of yourself and then you don't get the job. Oh, well, I couldn't comment from personal experience. Yeah. I've always led with a hot pick.

Yeah, right. Okay. So, yeah, apparently not even a five-page CV. Just do a cover. Five pages? Well, people used to do that back in the day. Oh, right. Okay.

And now you just cut it down to like one page. Get all the details that are relevant. We don't need to know if you did a milk run and then like what you got in. Well, because I did, you know, I did my paper run

when I was at school, so I should leave that off. Yeah, you were terrible at that. Whereas I think you should just cram everything in. Overwhelm them with information.

I'm a huge fan of this. I don't know if that's what they want, Vaughn. Yeah. Because they don't have time to read it. They'll just be like, too much info, chuck. I don't know if that's what they want, Vaughn. Yeah. Because they don't have time to read it. They'll just be like, too much info, chuck it out. You know what?

If I was hiring people, I'd judge them on their font of their CV and their paper quality. 100%. Yeah, you don't want no Joker, ITC, Comic Sans character. Yeah, exactly. You want a reliable helvetica. It says a lot about a person with the font they use. It really does. It really does.

Yeah, so you need to Marie Kondo it. But off the back of talking about CVs, we would love to know what details you've left off, what you've omitted from your CV. Yeah, maybe that job that you only lasted a week at because you got fired. Or maybe you left something off and then you still nailed the job. But you, you know, didn't tell the whole

truth getting it. Says somebody who... Sounds like they're just making a slight confession. Fake it till you make it. Yeah, I'm a big fan of faking it till you make it. Yeah. You can learn stuff on the job. That's how I get by in life. That's how you do most of your learning. Exactly. On the job. Learn by doing. Alright, Vaughan, here's your forklift. You're learn stuff on the job. That's how I get by in life. That's how you do most of your learning. Exactly.

On the job. Learn by doing. All right, Vaughan, here's your forklift. You're like, shouldn't have said I knew how to drive a forklift. Scratch, scratch. Scratch, scratch. Around there. What is this one? Up, down.

This thing's easy. I'm going backwards now, babe. All right, so. Oh, the beep means backwards. So let's take your calls. 0800 DALES at M. You can text 9696. What have you left off a CV?

Maybe a job that you didn't last long at. Maybe it was an embarrassing position. Oh. Let you know a job you might have done that you're embarrassed to say you did. Because maybe it doesn't have anything to do with your line of work now. Hey, it's still character building. Still made you what you are. Maybe just left it off. Because maybe it doesn't have anything to do with your line of work now. Hey, it's still character building.

Still made you what you are. Maybe it was incredibly short. Yeah. And you don't want to have to explain why you only worked somewhere for three days. Exactly. All right, give us a call. So we want to know what you've left off your CV. You should be stripping it right down according to some...

Experts. Experts. Marie Kondo-ing your CV. Yeah. Somebody said if they Marie Kondo-ed your CV. Yeah. Somebody said if they Marie Kondo-ed their CV, there would be nothing left. Did this bring me joy? No, it didn't. Thus

I must leave it off. Yeah, exactly. Fair call. Somebody said they hire people and they disagree with the decluttering because something that they might leave off could have added something to the business. You know, like you might think it's a worthless piece, but it could be something that they could. You know, like you might think it's a worthless piece,

but it could be something that they could be looking for, perhaps. Right. But then they referenced probably not like the milk run. Yeah, like you don't want five pages, do you? No. Myra, what did you leave off a CV? I leave my age off my CV. Okay, that's interesting,

because then they can't judge you on your age when they hire you, can they? Yeah, absolutely. So I'm super young, and the role I went for, you need to be old. And I just don't put my age on my CV and get the job, and then they realise. So what kind of job was it that you needed to be old to do? Oh, like, not particularly old, but definitely more life experience. I'm a technician for a haircare company. Right.

So they wanted someone who'd been around the traps for a little bit longer. Yeah, totally. But I knew I could do the job. I still do the job now. Are you allowed to ask in an interview how old someone is? I have no idea. They just didn't ask you? No.

No one asked. And then when they hired me, they were like, oh, how old are you, by the way? I was like, oh, you know, I'm 22. Sneaked. They were like, shit, you're 10 years younger than we thought. But that's cool. 20 years younger. Wow, brilliant.

Ouch. Thanks, Nicole. Anonymous, what did you leave off of your CV? Oh, is this my turn? Yes, it is. Bless you, my turn? Yeah. I'm applying for the policeman and I'm currently a topless waiter slash stripper sometimes.

Oh! Right, so you leave that off. You leave that off. Oh yeah, definitely leave that off, yeah. Yeah, don't they do like all those interviews with all your friends just to background check you? Well, they said that to me after, or when I went in and I was like,

oh, should I tell them? I was like, oh, should I tell them? I was like, oh, leave it off because I use a fake name and stuff. Yeah, right. Well, every good undercover cop's a stripper.

Like, you know, think about the movie. Yeah, a great undercover. Yeah. Yeah, exactly right. Experience. Yeah. 100%.

But you're not the only person. Somebody said, I left off the fact that I was a topless waiter because they didn't think it would help for the banking role that I was applying for.

No, probably not. They're saying people aren't going into bank offices now because it's all online. But if there were topless bank staff, it would get people back in there, wouldn't it? It would get people back in there. Face-to-face banking. The only people going to banks are old ladies. It could be too much for them.

Some of the jobs I do, they've actually requested a policeman outfit, so I'm like oh, this is just practice for the real thing. Yes. Yeah, but you don't want to become a policeman and knock on someone's door and then start taking your top off and then realise that oh, you're actually a policeman. Wrong job.

I'm not stripping today, I'm being a police officer. Hey, thanks, you call anonymous. Somebody said, I'm at the other end of the age thing, I'm old, so I don't put my age on the CV and they're not stripping today. I'm being a police officer. Hey, thanks. You call anonymous. Somebody said, I'm at the other end of the age thing. I'm old, so I don't put my age on the CV, and they're not allowed to ask. Oh, they're not allowed to? No. See, I feel like when you do job interviews for your cafe, you should know these things, Megan. Oh, yeah, but I don't generally do the interviews.

I don't, like, you just see if they can, like, cook or make coffee. Yeah, right. And then you're like yes, got the job. And then if they're going to be working at the cafe when Megan's here they're not allowed to be too hot. That laugh. That laugh. There was absolutely no denial there. No, that's not the truth. Too late.

Move on. I left my first name off. I just put my first initial when I was applying for jobs in the construction industry because my name is Heather and I'm a female and I read that it could count against you in some

industries. Oh wow, okay. Just it's not even like a conscious decision sometimes. So I'd leave that off and you know, they would hire me and see all my experience before they realised that I was a female.

So I kind of got the experience in before the prejudice involved. That's all good. Somebody else said they had a guy show up with a CV that had 10 years of self-directed learning. What's that?

Unemployment? Unemployment. Prison. Prison. Oh, okay. Right. Self-directed learning. What's that? Unemployment? Prison. Prison. Oh, okay, right. Self-directed learning. Because it wasn't until they really started digging into what that was that he said, oh, yeah, I was in prison. Yeah, because if you were in prison for 10 years,

how would you creatively cover that up? Self-directed learning. Yeah, but there's got to be another way. I don't know. You might just have to be honest about your time and your criminal convictions because then they are allowed to ask you if you've got a criminal conviction.

Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah. Interesting. Hasn't it been a wonderful podcast so far? And it's all thanks to Spark, our primary sponsor. Do you love free data? Then you will love the Spark data stack.

More data every month that you stay. Hey, guys, let's get back into that podcast. But right now I thought we could have an etiquette check. A discussion on some etiquette. So something happened yesterday and I was like, hmm. Iffy. I was a bit iffy. So a friend on Facebook posted a fake quote.

What do you mean a fake quote? You know those things people post and they're all like, you just know. Like it's attributed to somebody. Yeah, yeah. So this one was like a Steve Jobs deathbed speech. Right. And I was reading it. And it was all good.

Like it was great stuff. It was all like great life advice. But he didn't say it, did he? But I was reading it, and it was all good. Like, it was great stuff. It was all, like, great life advice. But he didn't say it, did he? But I was like, that's not... Steve Jobs didn't really say anything, did he? And from what you heard, he was, like, a genius, but also a bit of an a-hole. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, he wasn't on his deathbed giving, like... Like, he'd say to people, do we have a solution for that? And they'd say, no, we're working on it. And he'd say, well, you're fired. Yeah. So, oh, we can't do that, Steve. Get out, I'll find someone that will make this happen. Yeah. So, oh, we can't do that, Steve. Get out. I'll find someone that will make this happen.

Yeah. That kind of thing. So I was like, this is all great life advice. So I Snopest it. Snopes.com, the best website in the world for like all urban legends and stuff. And it's like Steve Jobs deathbed speech. Not true. Right.

It's fake. The Snopes. It's fake. Dispels the urban legends. So I was like, do I tell this person or do I, because, you know, it was all nice advice. It was nice and warm and great life advice. But he didn't say it.

He didn't say it and that's what gets me. Like, he didn't say it. I already know, like, the two of you would 100% say that. No, so I copied the Snopes link to the fake Steve Jobs thing article that's here and I was about to post it and say, look, this isn't real. But then I was like, you know what? It's not my, I don't need to say this.

No. Just let them have this nice, warm, fuzzy thing. But what's the etiquette there? Vaughn would straight up be like. I have in the past said this isn't true. Yeah. That's not right. You should Google that. But do you call them out publicly on their timeline?

So I used to, but now I flick them a message. Like you do this quite often. I flick them a message, but just been like, hey, that's not legit. Unless it's one of those like share this to win an $18 million Mitre 10 voucher. We're giving away a thousand of them. You're like, come on, Auntie Sue. I just feel like, hey, this isn't legit. This is not true.

This is not true. How do they react? Do they take them down generally? I don't think, the sort of people I'm generally helping with the fake giveaways, they're not really deleters. They don't really know how to delete.

Yeah, more your aunties. Yeah, your aunties. But what about the fake quote people? One or two of them have taken them down. What would you do, Megan? I wouldn't tell them. Because what are they hurting? But then you're letting them live in ignorant bliss.

Yeah, which is a lovely place to be in this day and age. I know it is because the internet's a horrible place. No, but they're not hurting anyone. If it was hurting someone or saying something bad, I'd just say something. But that's just a nice quote. Yeah, but Steve Jobs didn't say it. That's okay.

Producers, what do we think of this etiquette dilemma? Yeah, I'm exactly the same as Megan. Just let them be. Just let them have it. But Steve Jobs didn't say this on his deathbed. I know, but why do you have the incessant need to tell someone that they're wrong? Because they're my friend.

I don't want another person being like, how about so-and-so believing that nonsense? Did it take you that long to come up with that? No, it reflects, basically it reflects badly on me that I'm friends with a moron. So I just want to like sort it out and make sure that it's not. No, it reflects, basically reflects badly on me that I'm friends with a moron. So I just want to like sort it out and make sure that it's not.

Right, okay. Producer James, what would you do in this situation? I'm not, I'm not too worried. Like if they got something out of it,

whether it was Steve Jobs or whoever else. A nice quote for life. If they got something out of it, then yeah, go for it. I'm not too worried. I've pulled right back on correcting the spelling,

haven't I? Are you saying you're getting less righteous as you get older? yeah, go for it. I've pulled right back on correcting the spelling, haven't I? Are you saying you're getting less righteous as you get older? Maybe, Megan, maybe. That's so good of me. What would you do in this situation? Do you think that people should be told that they're posting fake quotes online? I feel like it depends if they're a top tier friend,

they'd get a message being like, you silly goose, this isn't real. But if they're on the C or B team, like. They're on their own, fools. Yeah, okay. You'd definitely tell me. I feel like I'd get a message and it would be a bit more harsh than you silly fool.

Yeah. You're an idiot. Probably, yeah. Oh, yeah. If it was one of you guys, I'd be like, you idiot. You bloody moron. Like that. That bloody moron. Like that. Yeah, right.

Okay. So judging by just the poll in the room is just let people be and post their thing on Facebook. It's so hard though because they're wrong. Hide them so you don't have to see it. Do you know there is a thing on the internet where you can see something and you don't have to reply or comment? You don't have to put your opinion on everything and everyone?

No, because now you're making us sound like stuff.co.nz commentators. We certainly don't. We don't even read. I don't follow any of that because that's all bad. We're joined in studio by the winner of Celebrity Treasure Island, Sam Wallace Good morning Good morning, how are you guys?

Congratulations Thank you I was just going to ask you for some of that $100,000 but it's going to Starship, isn't it? It is, it's going to Starship which is a wonderful thing but yeah, it would have been nice if it was in my own back pocket as well

just a little bit Did you get a congratulatory message last night from Matty McLean? Because he's a big fan. Do you know I haven't checked that. Should we check that? Yeah, you said Matty's been in touch. No, he has been relatively positive. Did you hear him on Breakfast Day yesterday? He was having a fair old dig. But that's cool.

That's alright. Everyone needs an understudy. I think he's still upset. It's not over. I think he's still upset. It's not over. I think he's still upset he got sent home. Series two will just be the two of you. And Barbara Kendall. And battling it out to the death.

You guys, what is your take on Barbara Kendall? Do you think she came across well? I think she was, from what I've heard and talked to different people about, the edit was kind to her. No, I reckon the edit was mean to her. Oh, really? Yeah, because her team, even up to the very last day, they were still talking about Team Marco

and saying how much they love Barbara Kennell. So I think she came across really rough on TV, but they all loved her so much. So I think she got the roughest ride out of everyone. Super competitive. I feel like you captured it really well when Shannon was trying to do yoga and then Barbara comes in and you're like, Barbara just couldn't let her have it, could she?

No, well, that's true. But there were so many moments in and amongst that where I was an arse as well. So, you know, it wasn't, I can't really rain on everyone's parade when I'm kind of walking around raining on theirs. So who was the nice guy from start to end? Start to end, Shane Cameron. Right. And Gary.

But, you know, Gary comes across really nice to your face, but then when you watch the show, you're like, Gary's having a dig and I didn't even know. So I was completely oblivious to that. Shane was nice the whole time. He was just having some fun, right? When you have push come to shove, he could kill any of you at any point. Yeah, he could snap everybody's neck

like a twig if he really needed to. I felt that too. Like we did this, that challenge at the very start with the life saving ring when we were resting in the water.

I have never felt forces like that. Like there was Shane Cameron, Eric Murray and Moses and then this little me trying to pull on a ring. Like it was insane. Well, some guys would probably pay money for that. To watch it

or to be involved. It didn't really hurt so good. It wasn't that kind of hurt. Were you, when you were ill, you know how you were not feeling well and everyone actually, was it just Athena that was like, I don't know if this is legit. Were you playing the game or were you actually sick?

And we worked with Athena. I know. No, I was sick. So I woke up in the middle of the night and I had a really, really bad belly. So I went to the bathroom and it crippled me. Like I crashed, as I was walking back, I crashed into the girl's tent, crashed into Barbara Kendall's kind of side of it and then fell to the ground. And my legs wouldn't work.

So like what they think it was is just a salt deficiency. So they went back and gave me electrolytes and stuff and I bounced back pretty quick, which looked really bad because- Yeah, because then you won the challenge. I know. Everyone's like, this is not-

They went from cleaning up my poo to like basically having to congratulate me for winning, which wasn't, yeah, it wasn't ideal. Great ad for Powerade though. Yeah. Isn't it? Really, I hope you're with the bounce pack. And hangover-like conditions there, too,

with the stumbling and the falling and the legs not working. Yeah, I would. Powerade, and then you win the challenge the next day. Do you get a room or a wing of Starship named after you now? No, I don't think so. I wouldn't be handing over the giant check until I got some naming rights. Yeah, no, it's fair.

And, you know, I can't go in there and hand over the giant check because of got some naming rights. Yeah, no, it's fair. And you know, I can't go in there and hand over the giant check because of the measles outbreak. So actually, it's really disappointing because that's kind of the finest moment, isn't it? When you actually get

to go in there. It's an amazing place to go into and meet. Well, some of the kids are in isolation because they might be going through cancer. Totally.

Treatment and their immune system's absolutely shot, which is why you can't go in there with the risk of measles at the moment. But meeting some of the kids in there, they might be going through cancer. Totally. Treatment in their immune systems. Absolutely. Which is why you can't go in there with the risk of measles at the moment. But meeting some of the kids in there, they're the bravest kids. Oh, absolutely. They're fantastic.

Yeah, and I mean, that's why Starship was my charity was because my little nephew Bo had two heart surgeries and Starship literally saved his life. So to give $100,000 back and to give the chance to actually give back to other families,

what a cool thing. Awesome. Well, congratulations. Thanks so much, guys. Well played. Really appreciate it. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. One of us on the show has a TV show. Has a TV show.

It's called Have You Been Paying Attention? On tonight, actually, Vaughan. Yes. Vaughan Smith. 7.30, TV 2 this evening. Yeah, yeah. Who's on tonight's panel? Madeline Sam is on tonight's panel. Chris Parker, Jessie Griffin.

And just the usuals. Yeah. Ursula. Ursula. You need to know how to say her name. She said yesterday that she doesn't care. But didn't offer you Ursula. Ursula. Ursula. Yeah, Ursula. It's a Z that trips you up, doesn't care. But didn't offer you Ursula. Ursula.

Ursula. Yeah, Ursula. It's a Z that trips you up. Yeah, Ursula. I heard her say like words and like how you say them in South Africa. Afrikaans? Two men Afrikaans. So you know how we say like apartheid?

She said we make it sound like it's a pudding. A pudding. Because it's like apartheid. You'll have some apartheid with some ice cream. But like, and then she said it. It was like, apartheid. Like it was, I was like, it sounds like what it is. But then they say pudding and it also sounds scary.

Yeah, but it's a very scary. And Haley Sproul hosts it. Yes, that's right. Yeah, okay, tonight. 10th episode tonight. Well. He likes you all to think he's keeping his humble beginnings. That he remembers his roots in radio.

Funny enough, you still have your accord. It's not about your Honda Accord. You haven't even branched out on a valet for that. 2007? 2003? 2007 is a bit bougie. Every time I go in it, it smells like wetness, like damp. Yeah, I don't know what that is.

But I also don't care what that is. It's so gross that time the seat was down, I thought it was broken. I just assumed it was broken. I didn't even try and put the seat back up. What seat was down? The seat I was sitting in that was right back. Oh, yeah, that was because I was waiting, so I crawled over into that one and had a snooze.

I thought it was just broken. So very, very humble in some regards with your 2003 Honda Accord. But we've noticed a change. We've noticed a change in old Mr. TV Star, haven't we, Megan? Yesterday, flicking it around in his hand just in case we hadn't seen it. Old TV star over here rocks around with his new TVNZ lanyard. The thing you wear around your neck for your security card. Oh, here it comes.

Oh, it's multicoloured. Is that made of like satin? And one side's blue and one side's red. Yeah, but it's quite like, it's just got a very subtle TVNZ one here. But it's because the work one, the work one, the one that work gave me had NZ Herald on it. I was like, I don't work at the Herald. And they said, oh, but we don't have any general NZ May ones or any ZM ones.

Yeah. And I was like, hmm. So then I got this one. Yeah. And it's actually two-sided so you can fit a card on each side, which is handy because now I only have to carry around one lanyard so I can put this works card on one side. And show everyone you work at TVNZ on the other.

So this is what I was doing. I knew this would be a problem. So the TVNZ card, I had it facing backwards so you couldn't see that it was a tvnz card it just looked like a picture on there yeah they take your picture well they put their security very seriously show me show me it's a great picture but it's okay yeah so um i actually had it inside out oh right i Because I thought it would be like, carrying that around, do you think you're pretty cool, do you? Well, it happens.

It's happened, hasn't it? Well, you should stop flinging it around your fancy lanyard. Yeah, but it's like just a lanyard. In tiny writing. Yeah, once. And the logo's there, but you don't even know what that is. It looks like what they had the medals attached to

at the Olympics. That's why it's like show-offy. That's what a lanyard is, Megan. It's something you put around your neck that looks like a whole stomach. It does look like

it should be at the Olympics. Very fancy. That's definitely public broadcaster money there. Isn't it? Not private company money. Rubbish ones. Yeah.

We all know you work in TV now, mate. I don't want to go back to just carrying around my card and losing it then. I actually just like teasing you about it because you get so upset about it. It'll make you all happy. I know. I feel bad that you felt like you had to put your TVNZ card inside out. But you knew it was coming because you'd do the same. 100%

And this was Megan At a fancy lanyard Yeah I wouldn't have Left it this long I would have been On to her day one Yeah I know

The moment I saw it Don't forget your radio Roots my friend Hard to have to get up At bloody 3 o'clock In the morning To come in here That was an exaggeration

What keeps you grounded Though isn't it Yes And the only reason You need to get up So early is to warm up your 2003 on the record. Sometimes it takes a little while. Every morning's a gamble. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast.

ZM. A mum is wearing it online. Well, I mean, like online. There's people that agree and people that vastly disagree. And everybody just types in capitals until we're angry about the next thing. Let's welcome to life in 2019. She put up some sleepover rules. 10-year-olds having a sleepover.

Okay. And made them sign this contract. 10-year-olds signing a contract. Uh-huh. Point one, touching and tickling of other people will result in immediate physical separation that could remain in place until pick-up time. This means we keep our hands to ourselves and we stay off each other.

Okay. Wow. Two, changing of clothes will be done independently and in a private space with the individual not in the company of anyone else. This means no nudity in front of anyone else whatsoever. Okay. Disruptions causing excessive volume of voice or electronics

will result in suspension of such privileges. This means no shouting, interrupting, or blasting the TV or iPad. Four, complaining will not be tolerated. Constructive requests are encouraged in a calm, polite tone of voice. This means you will wait to have my attention and acknowledgement before you start speaking to me. I have read and understand the rules and conditions of having a play date at Ms. Someone's house.

No wonder she's a Ms. And have to agree to show respect at all times if my behaviour reaches and maintains Ms. So-and-so standards, then a fun time will be had and a brunch will occur on the following day. If my behaviour falls below Ms. So-and-so's standards, then future playdates or sleepovers will not occur again without serious consideration and

further stipulation. Is she ruling out a pillow fight? I'd say so. That would definitely rule out a pillow fight. When they say kids thrive with boundaries, there's very solid boundaries in place. It's a hard fence more than a light boundary. Very, like a Trump wall of restrictions there.

But as a parent, I'm also kind of like, good. Because, yeah, it's hard. You want, like, if you send that to the parents, right, of the kids coming over, they're like, oh, we don't want them to go anymore. And you're like, yes. Yeah, no one's coming over to us. Like, I can remember my parents did not enjoy us having friends over. They did not like it.

And as now I can see why I don't like dealing with other people's kids. Yeah, right. Because they're shitbags. You can't. Well, you can sternly growl them like you would your own kids. Yeah. But I don't know. It's weird. You can't. Well, you can sternly growl them like you would your own kids. Yeah. But I don't know. It's weird.

You can't. Yeah, I can totally see why my parents didn't like it. Yeah. No one came to my house. I always went to sleepovers to other people's house. Yeah. Like, yeah. I remember Lisa's mum was really strict.

Did she have that make you sign a contract? No. But I remember every time I went there, I'd be like, I think we weren't allowed to play outside after four o'clock, I don't know, and at their house in the backyard. I don't know why.

So we used to hide under the trampoline and get told off for being outside too late. Because it's past four o'clock. Yeah, and stuff like that. But then Lisa was the one who wanted to play doctors and nurses, so maybe those boundaries were in place for a reason. Right.

There was always the friend that was a little eager for doctors and nurses. Yeah. Oh, nah. Let's play another game. Oh, but I'm already in doctor mode. Okay, Fletch. This is weird because we're, like, adults and stuff. We're at work

when he's doing it but he wants to play Doctor's and Nurse's so you go with it I remember there was I had a friend you weren't allowed to

know what to say if it was sunny you weren't allowed to play you weren't allowed to be inside the parents were like you are not inside

oh you're getting outside you're outside um I remember there was a friend if you went there you were doing the dishes. Oh, but that's fair enough. Yeah.

Slave labour. Did you not do the dishes at your house? Yeah, but not every time. And also, if we had guests, we never expected the guests to do the dishes. Yeah, that's rough. You don't make the guests do the dishes. No. But I'd have to tea towel up because he liked washing, so I had to dry.

Right, okay. It fell on me. But then it was annoying because it wasn't my house. I didn't know where anything went. Yeah. So I just made a massive stack on the bench and we had to put them away together. Tough times. Great sleepover.

So then you said it's just off the bed. So bloody tired from all the dishes. But we'd love to know if you had a friend and you went to their house, there was weird rules. Maybe just different rules to what you had at your house. Or maybe even now looking back on it, you're like, that was a weird rule. It was a weird, yeah. You went with it at the time. Especially if you're from

two different, completely different families. Yeah. You know, families do different things, don't they? They might have different cultures or rules. Yeah, that'd be interesting. Like, they're going from one culture to another because, like, I'm white-breed as. I grew up in rural New Zealand in the 80s.

Like, everyone we knew was white. Yeah, right. It was very white. There was no sort of... But that would be fascinating as a kid going into a different house with cultural differences. Yeah, billeting was school and there was, like, a religious family

and they said all that religious stuff before dinner and they had green pasta and I was like, this is so different and weird. Green pasta. What's happening? And who are we thanking

before we eat? Green pasta and Jesus. What a way to eat. I knew it. What an awakening for you. Yeah. Imagine the reverse when that came to your house

and your pasta was just like bland white and you just ate it without thanks to anybody. The way it should be? I don't know. Wow. 0800Diles.am 9696. What were your friends' unusual rules growing up if you went to their house?

All right, give us a call. What were the weird rules that you had growing up when you went to a friend's place? Maybe they had some different rules to their house. Alright, give us a call. The weird rules that you had growing up when you went to a friend's place. Maybe they had some different rules at your house. Mum's gone viral after making 10 year old sign a contract to sleep over. So no shortage of pretty

funny text messages coming in from people and a lot of people just looking back at it and being like, that was a bit weird. Yeah. Just that was life but now that I think about it it was weird. That's a bit weird. Yeah. Just that was life. But now that I think about it, it was weird. It was weird. That's a bit weird. Someone said, I went to a Catholic school,

so most of my friends' parents were strict as Catholics. It was grace before dinner. Even invited me to say it, but I'd say I'm too shy. Slash that. And I don't know what to say. Yeah. And if you stayed a Saturday night, it was Sunday morning church service.

I didn't pack for church. I had to borrow my friend's conservative long skirts and skivvies so I didn't embarrass the family. They also didn't celebrate. Oh, peers wait in the car? Praying in the car? Yeah. Yeah.

Mobile praying. They also didn't celebrate Halloween. And I once mentioned that we should watch Harry Potter and was absolutely ripped for it. Needless to say, I soon became friends with other just baptised at birth but no real connection to the church Catholics. Brilliant.

Lots of us. And we watched the hell out of Harry Potter. Good to hear. Yeah. Good to hear. Good Harry Potter marathon. Lisa, what rules did your friends have at their place? So if I stayed at my friend's on a Friday night,

we had to go with her mum to karaoke. Right, okay. We were allowed to wear makeup and stuff like that, and the room was like everyone was smoking, and I had to wash my hair before I went home the next day so that my mum didn't know I'd been in like a smoky club that night. Now, what was your friend's mum's go-to karaoke song? Oh my god,

Mustang Sally. I still remember it and every time I hear it, I think of that. She had quite a deep husky voice and it totally worked for her. That's the thing, if she was going every Friday, she'd been through the catalogue, she knew her strengths and she sung it every time because she got a compliment.

She probably didn't even have to look in the folder. She would have known the number. Yeah. She just got up. Shit, you're good at that song, Tracy. Lisa, thanks for your call. Maria, what was the weird rule at your friend's house? Oh, well, we weren't allowed to come in with dirty feet.

So she'd know, she'd check us at the door Oh, well, we weren't allowed to come in with dirty feet, so she'd check us at the door before we were even allowed inside and have a look at the soles of our feet just to check them, and she'd give them a real good scrub with a wet cloth if they were dirty before we could come inside. Oh, was she rocking a white carpet, Maria? No, not even. I actually can't remember, but I remember kind of,

I mean, I would have been five or six thinking, what's the... And I just hated it. So I remember like, when we were going to a place and we were just kind of coming up the road, I'd be like, shit. I mean, shoot.

Who's got some shoes? And I'd put some shoes on in a panic, hoping to avoid that whole thing. Right, she knew. She just looked at me and went, nah. Yeah, I still had to get my feet wiped. I love that that was so traumatic for you. And she wiped them. That's yuck.

Yeah. That is yuck. Just soak your feet in and then wipe them yourself. Don't wipe other people's feet. The claim freak. Maria, thanks. You called some text messages. Somebody said, I grew up kosher Jew.

When kids came over, having two fridges really messed with their heads. Also, cooking things separately also sparked conversation. Totally unreligious now. Right. But, you know, thinking back to it, it must have blown kids' minds that we kept everything separate. Yeah. Somebody else said,

we had a friend back in primary school who would invite a whole bunch of us over at the end of each term and then his parents would just make us do housework. Try to disguise it as fun games like Wood Tetris in which we were pretty much just stacking the firewood away that his dad was cutting. Oh my god, that's funny. That's ingenious. And other people

who were that, my friend was a horse person. So they'd say things like, oh, we're going to get the slip and slide out and they had this awesome hill on their lawn. So I'm like, great times. Yeah, great. You don't even have to run, like you just jump on it and the gravity do the rest. But then we'd get there and we'd just end up doing all these horse chores all weekend. And then they'd say, oh, we're out of time for the slip and do the rest. But then we'd get there and we'd just end up doing all these horse chores all weekend.

And then they'd say, oh, we're out of time for the slip and slide this time. Unbelievable. No good, eh? I always felt sorry for kids that didn't have a slope and they had a slip and slide. It's like, aw, get out. They had to run as fast as they could and throw themselves on a flat piece of lawn. RIP, we had a great big hill. Yeah, we had some great hills to slip and slide.

And we'd extend it down into the paddock. We'd have a whole black pile of thing, but that thing would get melting hot in the middle of summer. You had to give it a spray before every time. You get the odd stick in the groin. Oh, those were the days. Oh, yes.

Those were the days, Megan. Yeah, and then mum would come home and wallop you for using five litres of sunlight liquid. Yeah. Yeah, and then mum would come home and wallop you for using five litres of sunlight liquid. Somebody else said that they weren't allowed to watch television when they went to their friend's house. Their mum came and watched and we were watching Dragon Ball Z and she absolutely flipped at us watching violent content and I wasn't allowed back. And our religious cousins, we weren't allowed to watch Scooby-Doo because of ghosts. Oh, okay. Apparently that's not right.

But talking to God is. I'm not sure on the maths on that one. My friend's mum made us eat biscuits over the kitchen sink so we didn't get crumbs anywhere. You can have a biscuit but eat it over the kitchen sink. You filthy little piggy. Wow. My friends' parents whenever I went there for dinner

two dinner stories actually one friend's parents would stop dinner and like make fun of them for holding their knife and fork wrong in front of the whole family be like look at this uncivilised monster

and somebody else said there was absolutely no talking at their friend's dinner table. And I'd forget because that's where my family would like catch up on the day. Yeah. And I started talking

and they put me in the naughty corner. In the naughty corner. You can't be put in the naughty corner at someone else's house, can you? For something like talking. Like deathly silence at a dinner table is horrible.

That is what you're supposed to discuss and like catch up with the fam. Yeah. That's the whole point. We went to a friend's house. Oh, and when you went to the toilet, the mum would allocate you two squares of toilet paper and that was all you were allowed to use.

Two! Whatever was our number two? Not two scrunches or two segments. No, two squares. I guess you could choose to use one at a time or go for a double strength. That's not enough for a wipe. I'd be like, Mrs. Johnson. I've got poos everywhere.

I tried using that brush. It's very sore. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day Today's fact of the day Is about the world's highest Unclimbed mountain Because you would think If there's a very tall mountain

It would have been climbed. It would have been, yeah, sure. They call it first ascent. Okay. And then first descent is coming back down. Yeah. I'd say so, yeah. It's just basically how ascent and descent works.

So the tallest mountain in the world, they believe that it's unclimbed, is Gangka Fumsem in Bhutan. It weighs in or measures in at a whopping seven and a half kilometres above sea level. I've just checked. That is twice the height of Mount Cook. But it's in a mountain range. Yeah, okay.

It's in Bhutan. And the reason it hasn't been climbed is that local customs and the country in a whole mountain climbing is banned. Oh. Because they believe these to be the sacred homes of protective deities and spirits. Right.

And so they, and then they never had the technology and then the technology came about, but they were like, nope, we've disallowed it entirely. In 2003, it was actually, officially they said, no, we don't climb those mountains. Those are to be remained unclimbed. And there hasn't ever been a rogue mountaineer that's... Well, that's the thing.

You couldn't officially claim it because then you would have broken Burton's law. And you'd be in jail for 400 years. Yeah, you'd be in a fair bit of trouble. So that is, yeah, it remains unclimbed because it's banned. But the other ones, the highest

unclaimed non-prohibited peaks are something that people are interested in. Apparently Chuchuchilish, which is about the same height as Gangka Fumsum, is unclimbed, and it's Pakistan's tallest.

But is that unclimbed because it's impossible? It's very, very hard. Right, okay. And very, very remote. Right. All in all, sounds like a terrible idea. Very dangerous. It doesn't sound predictable.

Yeah, right. Yeah. But so today's fact of the day is the tallest peak in the world that remains unclimbed is, it remains unclimbed because it's illegal to climb mountains in the country of Bhutan. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Yeah. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Well, there's been a study done that shows cats love their owners just as much as dogs do.

Because, you know, they often get a bit of a hard rap, cats being just there to use you for the food. Yeah. And a little pat and then they're off. Dogs have owners, cats have slaves. Well, yeah, so the memes go better. Put that on a fridge magnet. A study has been done, and US researchers looked into this.

This study was published in Current Biology Journal on Monday, and yeah, it's found cats to be just as loving as their canine counterparts. The researchers discovered that domestic cats, much like dogs and babies, form emotional bonds with their human caregivers. And the majority of felines demonstrated a secure bond and clear interest in their owners. Yeah, and then you give them a tickle

and then they've had enough. So they've got a bond with their owners, but they've also got a very short temperament. They're like Fletch. You have friends, but only when you want them to be around. And then if I don't have food, I'm angry and I meow a lot. Yeah, yeah.

And then you go out and then you want to come back in. And then you give you a wee tickle and you're like, no. Only a minority of the cats that were studied and analysed were found to uphold their reputation as cold and aloof. So...

How many? A small minority, it says. Sure. I don't know. Still not enough to be a cat person. No.

Did you not even have cats growing up? No, I did. I had Flick and that's, they think, where my cat allergy came from.

Don't laugh at Flick's name. Okay. Flick. Interesting name. Don't laugh at Flick's name. Okay. Interesting name. Why was it called Flick? I don't know, actually. But then Flick died and they think that the trauma from the death of Flick probably gave him a cat allergy because I wasn't allergic when I was little. What a little.

Okay. You can't get an allergy from a trauma. I wasn't allergic to cats when I was little. And now I am. I don't know a lot about trauma and I know that trauma is But you still laugh and make jokes. No, no, but like the death of a cat probably couldn't be classed as trauma. When I was young, that's pretty

like that's... Momentary sadness. Sad. How was he? How was Flick killed? No, he had like a heart attack or something. I think when we found him he was pretty stiff. Right. Oh, did you find him? It's horrible.

Did you find him? What did you find from reading? I need more time to Google this. The surprising link between anaphylactic shock and PTSD. So they're saying post-traumatic stress disorder can lead to allergic reactions causing anaphylactic shock. Well, yeah, there's a couple of articles here, yeah. So Megan's cat-related allergy trauma could be a thing.

PTSD. Take it back. I'm not taking it back yet. Well, I'd like to read more about it before we... But also, like, PTSD because somebody went to war or witnessed something horrendous is like, you know that animals are going to die, right? Yeah, but I was young, Vaughan.

I was little. And I found my cat stiff. I was sad when Joey died. Yeah. Our cat. Is that what made you allergic to peanuts? Because you had a peanut allergy. And then when I was over the trauma, I wasn't anymore.

Maybe. And now I can eat Schnicker's bars. Traumatic stress can cause very strong reactions in some people and may become chronic and ongoing. That is totally where my allergy came from. Somebody said they've developed a dairy allergy after a traumatic event three years ago. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it's not legit.

Yeah, but their trauma's probably traumatic. It's not just their cat dying. Don't say it was just their cat dying. You said I hated Flick. You didn't like Flick. I absolutely did not say that. I said I loved Flick. You killed Flick.

Oh my God. That's the traumatic thing. You killed Flick and you can't live... It wasn't trauma, it was guilt that gave her her allergies. You rollerbladed over Flick. Flick had a heart attack. Because you rollerbladed over Flick's tail. Oh my God, ROP Flick. Flick had a heart attack. Because your rollerblader was over Flick's tail. Oh my God.

ROP Flick. We found Flick stiff. See, it's really traumatising me. So, okay, if you went and talked to someone about this and got therapy

to get over your PTSD, do you think that could then make you like cats? You know how you're like, you're like, you think about something and then they're like, go back in your past

and think about something. Your first early trauma, traumatic memory. Yeah. Yours would be Flick. I found Flick dead. That would be your... Yeah, probably.

Wow. And now I'm allergic to cats. Because I'm like, I don't want to be hurt again. I can't, I can't like film, form a relationship with a cat because I might find it dead.

So like, you know? But it's fine. I've got bad news. Everyone you know and everything that lives that you know will die. Oh my God. Okay. People.

Pets. Meggie wolf. Trees. Feed the posse wolf. The earth. Can you stop? Quite quickly at this rate. Yeah.

ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. Making a Murderer was the documentary on Netflix that was about Stephen Avery and the murder of Teresa Hallbark. And Brendan Darcy. And Brendan Darcy. So Stephen and Brendan are still in prison

right? Both of them. Yeah. But there's been a development. Now you never, season, two seasons, you never watched season two. Oh, season two. Because season two, for me, cemented the fact that they need to be released from jail. Because there is a lot of doubt. Their new lawyer, Kathleen Zalner, who is just my hero.

She's incredible. Yeah. Yeah. You definitely need to watch season two if you never watched it. But there is another documentary being made it's a follow up documentary series it's called Convicting a Murderer now while they were doing their investigations

and looking into it a confession has been made by an anonymous man who is currently in prison for a separate murder conviction so he has confessed to these people making a documentary that he is responsible for the murder of Teresa Holbach in 2007. So they've got this on tape.

Yeah. Him saying, I've done it. They captured the audio and they said, you know, it's our responsibility. We've been in production for 20 months. We feel like we need to deliver any and all possible evidence to the law enforcement teams. Yep. Now Kathleen Zellner, who we just spoke about,

the lawyer for Stephen Avery and Brendan Dassey, she has said, we received the handwritten confession on Saturday. It is worthless unless it's corroborated. How do you spell corroborated? C-O-R-R-O-B-O-R-A-T-E-D. Corroborated. Corroborated.

Corroborated. Corroborated. Corroborated. Corroborated. Yeah.borate. Corroborate. Corroborate. Corroborate. So where, yeah, when you say it a lot. So she said,

hashtag not so fast. I think she's still convinced that someone within Stephen Avery's family or Brendan Dassey's family is responsible. So unless they can get evidence or something to link this guy to it,

his confession is just not enough. Yeah, because it would be pretty easy to prove he might have been somewhere else at the time or he was just doing it for attention. Do you think that documentary is focusing more on the prosecution side of things, the other side that we didn't see as much? Maybe, if it's called convicting a murderer.

Yeah. But this guy, he is responsible for the murder of someone else in the same sort of area. So, I mean, it's possible. But do they, is it a thing where, like, people in jail feel like they get more kudos if they admit to something that they potentially didn't do? There's been cases of it, isn't there?

What would be the benefit of the guy? Well, people say, I've got, I'll help you solve this case if you put me in a better prison or in a better cell. Oh, okay. Or give me a better deal, maybe. Yeah. Right. But then you're going to get more prison time, aren't you?

For murder, yeah, that tends to be one of the ones they'll put you in prison for. Add a bit more time to your case. But interesting, because, yeah, that's a fascinating show and probably one of You'd say Netflix Most watched shows of all time Yeah

But yeah If you've never watched season two Definitely watch it