48 Hours - 48 Hours Interview: F.B.I. Investigators talk about Lee Barnett

Episode Date: November 12, 2015

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Starting point is 00:01:53 her nine-and-a-half-month-old daughter Savannah after a bitter court battle with husband Harris Todd, a battle fueled by allegations of mental illness, violence, and deceit. Over the next two months, Leigh Barnett obtained fake birth certificates and passports, and in April of 1994, she and her baby assumed their new identities, boarded a plane to Germany, and disappeared. So began a mystery that would haunt FBI agents for the better part of two decades. 48 Hours producer Liza Finley sat down with agents Chris Quick and Ed Klimas, two leading FBI agents who searched for Lee and Savannah across the globe.
Starting point is 00:02:43 My name is Chris Quick, and I'm a special agent with the FBI and have been employed with the FBI for 26 years. I was assigned this case in late April 1994 and basically Harris Todd and his attorney came to the FBI office and said my daughter has been kidnapped or taken by my ex-wife and found out from Harris and his attorney that he had full custody of his daughter and that his ex-wife, Dorothy Lee Barnett, had visitation rights. And I guess the weekend prior to that, on a weekend visit, she disappeared with the child. On a weekend visit, she disappeared with the child.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Did you know at that point what you were about to, the kind of length and scope of an investigation you were about to embark on? I didn't know what to expect, that it would take 20-plus years to solve or investigate. In most parental kidnappings, they're emotionally based. And, you know, one parent gets upset, gets emotional, takes the kid, puts him in a car, and they travel somewhere and really don't think it out. And so I thought it would be one of those typical cases that Dorothy Lee emotionally left, took her kid, was upset.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And I thought eventually in a week or two, we'd find her in some hotel, motel in some other part of the country. But? That didn't occur. And then as we started investigating and talking to Harris and family members, associates, we found out that this was a little bit more than your average custody kidnapping. She did some planning and took some steps to think this out and not get caught. So Leigh Barnett turned out to be what? That she had planned this, calculated it, and did a good job. I mean, as time went on, leads came up empty.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And, you know, from working fugitive cases, most fugitives mess up, make mistakes, because they can't leave the life that they came from. And in this case, she's totally cut all ties from everyone, family, associates. And because of that, she was tough to find. You know, most people stay in touch with a relative or make that telephone call or make that visit to someone, and that's what trips them up.
Starting point is 00:05:23 This didn't occur in this case. So what does that say about Leigh Barnett? She thought about this, she was planned, she was disciplined. She was able to elude us for 20 years. So she accomplished her goal at least for 20 years. She had an advantage because she was a flight attendant. So she had traveled the world, unlike most average people.
Starting point is 00:05:45 So she knew how to travel, foreign countries. So she had that advantage, unlike most people. And how resourceful a person do you think Leigh Burnett was? Well, in hindsight, she was very resourceful. I mean, was able to go to California, get a driver's license and an assumed name, disguise herself in the pictures, used her U.S. Airlines ID, altered that to get the driver's license. And with those IDs, was able to go to Houston and get a passport and an assumed name. She also got a bogus birth certificate in her daughter's name.
Starting point is 00:06:26 20 years ago, obtaining false identification was relatively easy, because there were no checks and balances in place like there are, you know, 20, 22 years forward. So it was a lot easier 20 years ago, if you just know how to do it and come up with the right ideas. Do you think she could do it today?
Starting point is 00:06:47 No. I don't think Lee Barnett would be able to pull it off today because of the checks and balances that are in place, the security concerns that the government has put in place because of terrorism and international travel requirements. After several years, FBI agent Ed Clemas took over the case. And what was your role in the case of Lee Barnett? I received the case after a number of years had gone by. It was pretty much a cold case at that point.
Starting point is 00:07:24 And I just had to pick it up after another agent had retired and take it from there. And what did you make of this, this woman who just disappeared into thin air? I mean, what did you, did you scratch your head? Well, I had to go back and review all the original case documents and the stuff that had been done previously by Chris Quick and some other agents and then see if I could develop some new leads, see if we could develop any new interest in the case, and then see if anything developed from that that we could follow up with.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And what kind of luck did you have? Very minimal. We sent out some leads to have some people interviewed, talked with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, and tried to explore whatever leads we thought were possible at that point, but nothing seemed to turn out positive. What did you do to get the word out that this woman is missing and we want to find her? We thought from the beginning to help solve
Starting point is 00:08:26 this case we needed the public's help so we any media exposure we can get on television by doing interviews in the local media, national media, you know if any we get the pictures out of Dorothy Lee of Savannah hopefully someone might recognize them and then call the FBI or local authorities and we could follow up on those tips and did you what kind of tips came in you would get you would get tips that I saw a mother with a baby fitting description in Arizona I mean we got tips from Arizona California Texas Alabama you name it all over and so of course these
Starting point is 00:09:14 would come into to myself and other agents and we would send agents from those respective areas to follow up on them and after interviewing the witnesses or individuals that had these spottings, determined it wasn't Dorothy Lee or Savannah. How frustrating was that time after time? It was frustrating because, I mean, you know, our goal was to find the child, Savannah, and as time went on, none of these leads panned out, and so you wonder, is the child okay? Are they still living here? Are they alive? Can harm have happened to the child? I mean,
Starting point is 00:09:55 so it was frustrating. But then one tip would break the case, a tip that came from a mistake that Leigh Barnett had finally made. For the first time ever, Leigh Barnett tells her side of the story to 48 Hours. Tune in this coming Saturday. We'll be on at 8 o'clock Eastern, 7 p.m. Central before the debate and at 10 o'clock p.m. on the West Coast. by filling out a quick survey at wondery.com slash survey. In the Pacific Ocean, halfway between Peru and New Zealand, lies a tiny volcanic island. It's a little-known British territory called Pitcairn,
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