48 Hours - Death on the Hudson - Encore

Episode Date: August 19, 2018

"48 Hours" correspondent Peter Van Sant reports on the latest twist in a case that raised serious questions in the case against Angelika Graswald in the death of her fiancé and the stunning ...resolution that shocked his family.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:38 It's a great place to kayak. But the Hudson River needs to be respected. There's a number of very strong currents in the Hudson. The Hudson can be dangerous. On April 19th, late in the afternoon, Angelica and Vince go kayaking on the Hudson River. They were kayakers. They enjoyed the outdoors. They were outdoors enthusiasts. You could tell that they were in love. that you saw the glisten in their eyes. He couldn't keep his hands off of her. He just loved her.
Starting point is 00:02:16 April 19th was one of the first nice days. Milky skies, but otherwise nice this afternoon. I-66. So they set out for what people call Bannerman's Island. There's a castle on it that was modeled after the castles in Scotland. Shortly after 7 p.m., when they went to return home, things changed. It was rough. When they went to return home, things changed. The clouds will thicken tonight though, and it's going to get windy later on. It was rough. We know that the waves are 3 to 5 feet. How high are you above the water right now? Maybe 4 inches.
Starting point is 00:02:55 So if a 2-foot wave is coming across here, what's happening? The wave's going to come and just come right into my lap, and then over you'll go. Midway through their paddle back to shore, Vince ran into trouble. His kayak capsized. He went into the water. He wasn't wearing a life vest. It was cold.
Starting point is 00:03:17 It was 46 degrees. It was windy. It was getting dark. It was a dangerous place to be. Shortly after going into the water, he instructed Angelica to call 911. Hi, I'm in the Hudson River. My fiance fell in the water. Can you please call anybody?
Starting point is 00:03:35 I can't get to him. It's very windy and the waves are coming in. I can't paddle to him. He's getting further and further away from me. He's going to him. He's getting further and further away from me. He's going to drown. The body of Vincent Villafor is yet to be located. The search for him remains ongoing. On April 29th, the New York State Police, they interrogated her for over 11 hours. You're lying to me and you're lying to yourself.
Starting point is 00:04:05 And then they arrested her for the crime of murder in the second degree. You killed Vinny. You took that plug out to kill him. The alleged motive for the crime, two life insurance policies totaling a quarter million dollars and a souring relationship. The police theory of this case is really outrageous. My name is Michael Archer. I'm a forensic scientist. I was retained to assist in Angelica's defense. They say that she pulled a plug, a drain plug from the kayak, and that caused the kayak to sink.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I took it out before. Yes. A long time ago. Because you wanted him to die? Yes. Do you believe that Angelica Grasswald may have given a false confession? Yes, in that she admitted to a crime that was probably nothing but an accident. I want to believe she didn't do it, but then again, the police know something that I don't know. I wanted him dead, and now he's gone. Hot Shot Australian attorney Nicola Gaba was born into legal royalty. Her specialty? Representing some of the city's most infamous gangland criminals. However, while Nicola held the underworld's darkest secrets, the most dangerous secret was her own. She's going to all the major groups within Melbourne's underworld, and she's informing on them all. I'm Marcia Clark, host of the new podcast, Informants Lawyer X.
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Starting point is 00:07:31 Angelica's call for help first obtained by 48 hours. The sun was setting, the river turning dark. They pulled her out of the water. They never saw another person in the water. They pulled her out of the water. They never saw another person in the water. Vincent Villafor's body had been swallowed up by the river. It all appeared to be a tragic accident. But within days, investigators began hearing disturbing reports that Angelica Graswald seemed oddly unaffected by his death. She agreed to be questioned. Tonight, you'll see the dramatic police interrogation.
Starting point is 00:08:04 You wanted him dead. she agreed to be questioned. Tonight, you'll see the dramatic police interrogation, where Angelica's own words turned her from a grieving fiancé into a murder suspect. She was always very nice, bright and clever and perky. Joel Goss has known Angelica for almost seven years. He saw Angelica toiling in local restaurants but knew she had bigger dreams. Photography,
Starting point is 00:08:30 she really wanted to do photography. Absolutely blissful when she was doing that. She'd always take pictures of the sky or something, you know, flowers. She always found beauty in that. Sherry Party tended the bar. I felt that she had a good heart.
Starting point is 00:08:46 You know, I don't have friends that don't have good hearts, you know. She was born Angelika Lipska in Latvia when it was still part of the Soviet Union. When the Iron Curtain lifted, Angelika sought opportunity, a nanny job bringing her to the United States. And by the time she met Vincent Viafor, Angelica had been married and divorced twice. But then, so had he. Just love at first sight? It was love at first sight.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Nearly 11 years older than Angelica, 46-year-old Vincent Viafor was a project manager with the state of New York and one of Sherry's closest friends. What was it about her personality that he fell in love with? She's very spunky like him. They just knew that they wanted to be together. Amanda Hoistrat was Vincent's roommate at the time. He loved her. He wanted to be around her all the time. Within weeks, Angelica moved in. Did he want to marry Angelica?
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah, he was even talking about having kids. Yeah. And he hadn't done that before. One, two, cut, cut. Known for his barbecue ribs, his dance moves, and his partying, Vincent was as generous and fun as they come. And Vinny had a lot of friends. A lot of friends.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Like the parties here, let's take a shot. You guys want a shot? His other little nickname is Vinny Shot. Like in this photo, on Saturday night, April 18th, Vincent was out to party with his friends. It was just 24 hours before he would go kayaking. Vinny wanted to stay out having drinks with us because that was like
Starting point is 00:10:29 we hadn't gotten together in a couple weeks. Maybe even go to a strip club. But Angelica wasn't interested. She wanted to go home. She was quiet. You know, she wasn't really talking to anyone.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Before Vincent took her home, he told Sherry's boyfriend, Monty, he had wanted to go kayaking. I was like, what are you crazy? Look behind you. The water was choppy. It was really cold. You can't go in this water. Don't even think about it. You can't talk to Vinny out of anything. He loves adventure. Angelica herself would take police through the very same Saturday night.
Starting point is 00:11:05 In this interrogation, first obtained by 48 hours. Angelica tells the investigator things between her and Vincent were tense. They argued, but then made up. How did the story end? They all went to bed. Nothing. The next day, Sunday, April 19th, Vincent was determined, she says, to go kayaking. We're going. We're going. Year after year, it was something of a spring ritual for the couple, kayaking on the Hudson.
Starting point is 00:11:48 The days were warming, but the river still cold. That day, Angelica says Vincent packed their gear. Traffic cameras caught his vehicle heading out. I had my life vest. I had my purse. But Angelica says Vincent didn't take a life vest for himself. Their plan this trip was to head to Bannerman's Castle in the middle of the Hudson River, where Angelica would change into something sexy for photos. Well, I wanted to please him, so... Just after 4 p.m., they launched, bringing alcohol, the beer seen in this evidence photo.
Starting point is 00:12:30 And when they arrived, they headed up these stairs. But because it was very cold and windy, Angelica says they decided to start the journey home around 7 p.m. At first, Angelica says Vincent was enjoying the rough water, playing around. Angelica tells police she knew Vincent's kayak was missing this plug. It's supposed to cover a hole in his kayak. And she says while Vincent's kayak worked fine without it on the way out to the island in a calmer river, now with the waves, she was concerned about it. started to fill up, and I knew that the plug wasn't there. Then, Vincent was suddenly in the water, holding this seat cushion that floats, she says, his kayak and a dry bag.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Angelica took his paddle and hooked it to her kayak. He's in the water. I'm left with both paddles. And I keep the weight pulling me away from him. Further and further. And that's when he yells, call 911. Hold on, baby! I don't see him anymore!
Starting point is 00:13:55 Okay, where are you exactly right now? In the minutes and hours following that 911 call, Angelica's every action would be closely scrutinized. It was Monday morning when Sherry heard the news. Called Angelica. She picks up. I said, I'm freaking out. I'm like, Angelica, what's going on? Like, is there something wrong? She's like, Vinny's missing. But Angelica, she says, was bizarrely calm. While divers searched for Vincent's body, Angelica posted this video of herself doing cartwheels. I thought it was a little insensitive. She also posted an old picture of herself kayaking in bad weather.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Kind of creepy that she's there alone on a stormy day. It was kind of freaky. But Joel Goss didn't see Angelica in the same light. I believe she was absolutely in pain that Vincent was gone. He says Angelica was really trying to put on a happy, brave face.
Starting point is 00:15:01 So she was very hopeful. There's still a chance. There's still a chance they'll find him. I should put flowers where I last saw him. I she was very hopeful. There's still a chance. There's still a chance they'll find him. I should put flowers where I last saw him. I should put flowers there. So 10 days after her fiance went missing, Angelica went back with flowers in hand to Bannerman's Island. Police were there too, not to comfort Angelica, but to confront her. I don't want to admit that I killed her. Okay, I understand that.
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Starting point is 00:17:31 Listen to the Pitcairn Trials exclusively on Wondery Plus. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. A state police marine boat with sonar spent the day in the rain, fog, and choppy water conditions searching for a missing kayaker. For days on end, the scenic river where Vincent Villafor loved to fish and kayak teamed with rescue boats and helicopters, looking for his body. I prayed every day to help us find him, whether he was alive or not, to bring him home. Vincent's mother, Mary Ann. You woke up anxious, you know, hopefully is this the day you're going to find him. While search crews combed the waters, Vincent Villafor's loved ones got news that left them reeling. What first seemed like an accident now appears to be something much more sinister. Stunningly, police now believe Vincent was murdered on the river and that his fiancée, Angelica Graswald, killed him.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Investigators say that when they questioned Angelica on Bannerman's Island, she gave them some extremely incriminating answers. She made statements that implicated herself in this crime. Authorities say Angelica admitted she removed the drain plug, like this one, from Vincent's kayak. Investigators believe that caused the boat to fill up with water. They also believe that she tampered with his paddle, removing a ring like this one, which helps keep the paddle securely together. And then, when Vincent went into the water, they say that Angelica took the paddle
Starting point is 00:19:19 away from him so he couldn't use it as a flotation device. It was a complete shock. I was devastated that she would do that to my son, who was so good to her. 35-year-old Angelica Graswold was charged with second-degree murder and later manslaughter. If somebody told me this was in her future, I wouldn't have believed it for a second. Michael Colvin, who lived with Angelica in 2009, believed it for a second. Michael Colvin, who lived with Angelica in 2009, cannot imagine that his ex-girlfriend is a killer. But he does remember she had a dark side. Did Angelica have a temper? Absolutely. She certainly had an anger streak. Colvin witnessed that anger right here in his driveway shortly after they broke up. It involved Mietka, the cat they had adopted together. She insisted on getting the cat and threatened to break into the house if I didn't give it to her.
Starting point is 00:20:14 The car is running. I'm getting into the car. She laid down just like this in the driveway, flat, like this. Give me the cat. Give me the cat. To which, of course, I, you know, finally at this point, she's laying down in my driveway. I'm not going to run her over. So I gave the cat to her. The woman definitely has a way of reacting when she feels threatened. There's no question about that. Colvin's wife, Heather. To lay behind the car, to threaten to break in, and you don't even have a place to house this cat.
Starting point is 00:20:46 That's the extreme side, I think. Vincent's friend, Sherry Party, says Angelica could violently turn on him when she was drunk. She would smack him so hard across his face, and he would just look at her and be like, he would not get mad. And she'd do it again and she'd do it again. Just two weeks before his kayak capsized, Amanda Hoistrat says Vince texted her, expressing some doubts about his relationship with Angelica. You know, he didn't think it was going to work.
Starting point is 00:21:22 But the very next day, she says, he changed his mind. He's like, oh, well, she must be really afraid of losing me because she wants me to stay home and we're going to make up. In the 11-hour interrogation, Angelica told police they were having problems. She said Vincent was pressuring her for things she wasn't comfortable with. You can push for everything. You can push for sex, for sexual stuff. she wasn't comfortable with. Angelica said they thought about it. And admitted that she often felt trapped in the relationship, sometimes wishing Vincent was dead. I wanted to be free.
Starting point is 00:22:23 As startling as that admission was, Angelica made even more disturbing comments to investigators. And you feel happy and relieved that it happened, that he's dead? Yes. When you watched him in the water, was a part of you saying, my worries are going away now, and I'm free? And were you almost...
Starting point is 00:22:41 Euphoric? Euphoric that he was going to be gone? I was. You felt that way? I felt that way. Along with anger, prosecutors say Angelica's other motive for murder was money. Angelica stood to gain $250,000 from two of Vincent's life insurance policies, a financial windfall for someone who had no money of her own. Did you really admit those things that prosecutors said in court? Angelica Graswold pleaded not guilty and was now on her way to jail to await trial. Her bond,
Starting point is 00:23:20 $9 million. Prosecutors considered the Latvian native a serious flight risk, and a judge agreed. It's like, how dare you feel that you can play God to decide when somebody's time is up? But defense expert Michael Archer says Angelika's alleged confession during that lengthy interrogation is meaningless. He says the forensic evidence tells the true story. I haven't seen all the evidence, but the evidence I've seen certainly does not support a homicide. This is, by all accounts, a tragic accident. And Archer says he can prove what really caused Vincent's kayak to capsize. Fire it up, Skipper, and let's go. Peter, come look at how our wake fills this boat.
Starting point is 00:24:34 The water is somewhere around 46 degrees at the warmest. You know, this is very cold water. It's frigid water. It's getting dark. It's windy. The waves are three to five feet high. He has no life vest on, and he has some level of impairment by alcohol. All of those fit that this is an accidental death. Forensic scientist Michael Archer grew up in the Hudson Valley and knows this beautiful river can be treacherous. I'm not going to blame Mr. Viafort,
Starting point is 00:25:00 but he certainly wasn't as cautious as he should have been. So what's your plan for today? Sure. So we have the gentleman who operates the kayak. Archer, working for the defense, has spent months examining the prosecutor's evidence against Angelica. Buddy, how much do you weigh? About 180, 185. So Peter, here's a gentleman who's significantly smaller than Mr. Viafort. And I just want you to see how low that kayak is in the water. And I'm not going to say this water is like glass, but it's pretty calm today. Archer asked Buddy Bainey of Mountaintops Outfitters to paddle out on the Hudson River in the same model kayak as Vincent Viafor did. Bainey is an experienced kayaker. If you were in rougher water,
Starting point is 00:25:46 would you be struggling to remain upright? Absolutely, yeah. Just the wake from that boat had me a little tipsy, a little nervous at one point. It's definitely more designed for, you know, small ponds, lakes, things that, you know, water that's generally calm all the time. But he paddled from Bannerman's Island
Starting point is 00:26:03 to the area where Vincent and Angelica launched about a mile away with the drain plug open. Remember, Angelica is accused of removing the plug from Vincent's kayak. Do you feel the boat is filling with water because the plug is out? If there's any water getting in there at all, it's very minimal. I don't feel it. I don't notice it. I don't see anything. That may sound surprising until you take a closer look. This is the kayak. This photo is taken by the New York State Police. This is the kayak that Vinny was in? Yes, that Mr. Viofor was in. So he's sitting here. The plug is on the top of the boat.
Starting point is 00:26:38 And the point of the plug... The plug is on the top of the boat? The plug is on the top of the boat. Well, how can it fill up with water if the plug is on top? It doesn't. What's more... The plug is about the size of the boat. The plug is on the top of the boat. Well, how can it fill up with water if the plug is on top? It doesn't. What's more... The plug is about the size of my pinky. About this big?
Starting point is 00:26:50 About that big. This big around? Yes. What's funny is when the case first came about, I had believed also that the drain plug was in the bottom of the kayak. Jeff Chartier is one of Angelica's defense attorneys. He says the Fusion 124 model kayak was designed with the plug on top, so once back on land, it can be easily flipped and drained.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Where do you believe the water actually came into this boat? Well, I think it's pretty clear, and look at this big giant hole. This is what led to the tragedy? Absolutely. No doubt. That's the defense theory. And while Archer can't recreate the exact conditions of Vincent's drowning, he did design an experiment to prove the defense's point. We're going to restore this kayak to the way Vince used it that day on April 19th. Strapping the kayak to the back of a boat and then creating an artificial wave. With the plug out.
Starting point is 00:27:46 The plug out. And the cockpit area here wide open. We're going to see how much of that wake comes in and how much water gets in the cockpit area and how much water gets in the plug area. Got the plug. Fired up skipper and let's go. Peter, come look at how our wake fills this boat. And that was about a three-footer coming into this. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:28:14 That's just one wave coming in here. Take a look at this. This looks to me to be a quarter full with just one wave. Archer then devised a test to see how much water could actually enter the kayak through that tiny hole. So, Peter, what I want to do is I'm going to dry the boat out. So we put a cockpit seal over top. We've sealed up the cockpit area.
Starting point is 00:28:40 We've taped it up so it's on there good, it's tight. And we've left the plug open. And we're going to have the water come over the kayak and see just how much water goes into the plug. Sounds good. Let's check it out and see how much water we got inside. What do you see? There's not that much, Peter. Let's get that five-gallon bucket, see if we can fill it up.
Starting point is 00:29:22 I have an empty water bottle. Nice and slow. Sure. This bottle is 16.9 ounces. That's... Less than an ounce. It? That's it. What does this tell you?
Starting point is 00:29:36 That for what wouldn't fill a shot glass, a woman sitting in jail being charged with a murder. But Angelica is also accused of tampering with Vincent's paddle, removing this ring that police believe holds the two sides of the paddle together. Archer asked Buddy to paddle the journey with the ring removed. How is it holding up? It's fine, yeah. No problem?
Starting point is 00:30:01 No problem. You don't need the ring to use the paddle. The other damning allegation against Angelica is that she took the paddle from Vincent after he went into the river, denying him something to hang on to. But could it have saved his life? I've taped a four-pound brick to the paddle, and we're going to see whether or not it sinks or if it floats. If it sinks with a four-pound brick attached, it's certainly not going to support a full-grown man. And there you have it. Another one of their theories that just
Starting point is 00:30:34 doesn't hold water. But what this forensic scientist can't explain is what Angelica said to police. But 48 Hours spoke with an interrogation expert who believes he can. You haven't been hired by the defense team, correct? No, not at all. Do you believe that Angelica Grasswald may have given a false confession? This is your typical police-style interrogation room. Four walls, no windows, and a door. Very sparse, very bare, no clocks, nothing to distract you.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Jim Tranum knows a lot about interrogation rooms. We want to get you into our environment so that we have control over the situation. For 27 years, the former detective for the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department conducted hundreds of interviews and interrogations. But there's one interrogation that still haunts him. When he unwittingly got an innocent woman to confess to murder. She later sued him and the police department. We get the person to believe, at least temporarily, that it's in their
Starting point is 00:31:53 best interest to tell us what we want to hear. Anybody can fall victim to it, and every single person can potentially give a false confession. Traynham is now considered a national expert on false confessions, teaching, writing, and testifying in high-profile cases. We asked him to review the case against Angelica. And you've come in with no bias? I have no dog in this fight. He watched every moment of Angelica's 11-hour interrogation.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Would you use this to teach other cops how to do a proper interrogation of a suspect? I would use it to teach them how not to. Traynham's investigation began with this document, first obtained by 48 Hours, a record of what Angelica allegedly told investigators on Bannerman's Island. You've read this document.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Any red flags there? A lot of red flags. According to this, Angelica essentially admits tampering with Vincent's paddle and the drain plug to kill him. What did you do to make him drown, they ask. I took the plug out of his kayak, she answers. him drown, they ask. I took the plug out of his kayak, she answers. Precise, perfect questions, precise, incriminating answers from Angelica. Right. And you would expect the video interrogation of Angelica to mirror that, but it doesn't. If you compare the statement, it doesn't match
Starting point is 00:33:22 the video at all. Police took Angelica from the island and read her her Miranda rights, the right to remain silent and have a lawyer. They tried over and over to get her to repeat on camera what she supposedly told them on the island. What could you have done physically that caused him to drown? And let's see if you remember what he told me. He said by taking the plug out of the kayak and taking the paddle away from him. Does that sound correct? Yeah, but I didn't intend to have it happen that way. So there's definitely clear signs of manipulation here. They want a specific answer from her.
Starting point is 00:34:07 The investigator tries a gentle approach. It's therapy for you. The way that they approached her, this is therapy. We're just trying to get to the bottom of this. This is going to help you. Angelica reveals intimate details of her life, claiming Vincent demanded that she participate in a threesome, a demand that made her angry. By the way he treated you, you taking
Starting point is 00:34:32 that plug out was a reaction of the way he treated you, right? They've been trying to establish motive the entire time. They're asking numerous leading questions. They're telling her the direction that they want the answer to go. They're often giving her the answer. That was almost like a way to get back at him. I know, yeah. You see where they think that they have her, that they have an admission.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And then three or four, you know, questions down the road, she's going, no, I didn't want him dead. You watched him drown. I know it's difficult. No, I didn't just watch him drown. I tried to do something about it. A second investigator comes in. Typically, this is done because the first interrogator is getting nowhere. And as you'll see, he's more the bad cop, and the first guy is more the good cop. You killed him. Repeatedly trying to get her to own what he believes she did. When did you in your mind make the decision that he needs to die,
Starting point is 00:35:36 and I'm going to take some steps to make sure that happens? Be free. And be free. And be out of this controlling, possessive relationship. I wasn't thinking that at all. What did you want that day? That day, I wanted to be free. And you wanted him to die?
Starting point is 00:35:53 Well, if you put it that way. Well, I put it that way. What's the answer? You know what the answer is. What's the answer, Angelica? I wanted him to die. And that would set you free. I didn't want him like gone, gone. To them, that, you know, that gone part meant you wanted him dead.
Starting point is 00:36:13 And I think she means something totally different when she's saying it. She's using the term gone as out of the relationship. Analyzing this video, Tray Tranum believes the investigators had tunnel vision. He says their entire case is built on a false premise. They think that they know the truth. That she pulled a plug in his kayak and it caused it to flood with water. But Tranum says the investigators are clearly confused, believing the drain plug is on the bottom of the kayak when it's on the top. Where does that plug go on the top?
Starting point is 00:36:50 It goes all the way to the back. Like underneath it? No. No? He thinks it's on the bottom. Yes, and in fact, later on, he again brings it up. And then it's underneath it? No.
Starting point is 00:37:02 No, it's on the top. It's on the top. I think a good defense attorney could have a field day with this. If that plug being out did not cause that kayak to fill up with water, it doesn't mean a damn thing. What's more, Angelica insists she removed the plug months before the April incident, in the winter, when her kitten, seen here in Vincent's kayak, was playing with it. It doesn't help their case if she took out that plug so long ago. If she's telling the truth, Trenum asserts, it's hard to argue she planned to kill him.
Starting point is 00:37:39 When did you take it out on Sunday? I did not take it out on Sunday. The plug was already out. The reality is, you took that plug out because you wanted to kill him. You wanted him to be dead. You wanted to be free. I took it out before. Yes. A long time ago.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Because you wanted him to die. Yes. I don't think so. So in essence, this is exactly what we're saying. We're like talking semantics. They've been twisting her responses. So in essence, this is exactly what we're saying. We're like talking semantics. They've been twisting her responses. But hours into the interrogation, Angelica finally sort of agrees with them.
Starting point is 00:38:14 It took a lot of April. April, the month the tragedy occurred. Tranum says, don't trust that. Do you believe that every person has a breaking point in an interrogation? Oh, absolutely. Repeatedly throughout the long interrogation, Angelica says she needs to go care for her beloved cat. She's worried about her cat. She's going to agree to their narrative in order for her to get out of there.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And Trenum says she does just that. By taking that plug out, you killed Benny, correct? And you wanted that to happen, correct? And you feel happy and relieved that it happened, that he's dead. And you feel happy and relieved that it happened, that he's dead? Yes. Angelica has now been in this room almost six hours. You killed Vinny, right? No, I want you to tell me the truth.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I am telling you the truth. What is the answer to that question? I didn't want him. Angelica, what is the true answer to that question? I didn't want him. Angelica, what is the true answer to that question? All right, I need a statement. What is it? I wanted him dead and now he's gone. I think she's done. She's now getting more and more desperate to get out of that room. I sense the more you watch this, the more you're becoming convinced this is a false confession. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:50 To me, this is a non-crime. This is an accident that they made into a criminal offense because of their gut feelings, because of her not acting appropriately. Forty-Eight Hours wanted to question prosecutors about the allegation that the state's case may be founded on a false confession. A spokesman said no comment will be made before trial. Angelica, do you miss Vincent?
Starting point is 00:40:17 Should Angelica Groswald be in a jail right now as we speak? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Amanda Hoistrat and Sherry Pardee have been living a life of torment since the terrible day their friend went missing. The fact that it was so mysterious and nobody could figure it out and we were wishful thinking and going on searches for him and looking for him, it was like we didn't have a sense of peace. We haven't had that closure that people get when you lose somebody, you know. We haven't had that.
Starting point is 00:41:07 And calling the state police for any news became a sad routine for Vincent's mom, Mary Ann. I talked to the state police a couple of times a week. It was hard. We were all praying. On Saturday morning, May 23, 2015, the agonizing wait came to an end. The victim's body was recovered Saturday, a month after kayaker Vincent Villafor went missing on the Hudson River. I was both sad and happy. Sad that there was no hope and happy that at least we found him and can bring him home.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Vincent Viafort's body was found that he had a blood alcohol level of 0.06, which is considered being impaired. Yet the manner of death was ruled a homicide, the medical examiner noting that the drain plug had been intentionally removed. had been intentionally removed. Angelica's lead defense attorney, Richard Portale, insists that Angelica is not to blame here. Mr. Viafort was responsible for that kayak. And, you know, you're the captain of your own ship,
Starting point is 00:42:39 and he left Plum Point on April 19th, and he had no life vest. He knew what the temperature of that water was, and so he was responsible for his conduct on that day. I do not believe that this was an accident. I'd like to see justice done for Vinny, as I guess any parent would for their child. His birthday is August 22nd. He would have been 47 years old.
Starting point is 00:43:09 His life was cut too short. And she is now forced to honor her son's birthday at his grave. And I know that we'll see each other again one day. And I look forward to that day. No matter how this plays out, Vincent's loved ones have vowed to keep his memory and spirit alive. We had so many memories together, just everywhere,
Starting point is 00:43:41 just like little things that remind me of him. And sometimes I just laugh to myself, you know, just thinking about him and just thinking about the fun times that we had. So I feel happy that I got to have six years with him. Ready? One, two, three! Yeah! Congratulations! Congratulations! After years of claiming to be innocent, Angelica Graswald pleaded guilty to criminally negligent homicide in the death of her fiancé, Vincent Villafor.
Starting point is 00:44:31 It is a stunning reversal, but with the murder trial looming, Angelica Graswald tearfully agrees to plead guilty to criminally negligent homicide. criminally negligent homicide. She pled guilty on the agreement that she be sentenced at a maximum state prison sentence for that charge of one and one-third years to four years in state prison. Orange County District Attorney David Hoovler explains his decision to downgrade the charges, saying it would have been difficult to prove Angelica intended to kill her boyfriend, Vincent Villafor, even though she did
Starting point is 00:45:07 admit pulling the plug from his kayak. Unlike shooting a victim with a gun or stabbing someone with a knife, removing a plug would only cause the death when it's combined with a number of other factors such as the water temperature, the wind, as well as the state of the victim. He was not wearing a life jacket or a wetsuit. Also, alcohol was present. As for what Angelica said to police during that 11-hour interrogation. None of the defend defendants vacillating statements constituted a direct confession for intentional murder that left prosecutors uncertain of a guilty verdict at trial the plea eliminated any chance whatsoever the defendant could escape conviction by a jury acquitting her the plea spared the victim's family of the uncertainty and emotional trauma of a trial,
Starting point is 00:46:06 which was discussed with them at length. The plea also spared Angelica a possible sentence of 25 years to life in prison. Instead, with time served, she faced only the remainder of the one and a third to four year sentence. Four years for taking someone's life? No way. My son was a good man and everybody loved him and we miss him very much. So that's all we have to say. Angelica is so grateful to be here today. On December 21st, 2017, Angelica Graswald was released on parole. She had served less than 32 months behind bars.
Starting point is 00:47:05 She's grateful to be able to breathe in the fresh air and walk in the fresh air. Thank you. Angelika's future is uncertain. When her parole is completed next April, she could be deported back to Latvia.

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