48 Hours - The Deliveryman Murders

Episode Date: February 21, 2021

A judge’s son is gunned down by a man delivering a package. 2,800 miles away, an eerily similar crime  — this time the target is a lawyer. Who is behind the killings? CBS N...ews correspondent Tracy Smith reports for "48 Hours".See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:39 ConstantContact.ca It was a complete mystery. This is a shocking crime. You know, the kind of shooting that you would think you'd only see in the movies. You could even call it a cold-blooded ambush. I'm Hermela Aragawi. Hermela Aragawi. I'm a reporter with CBS Los Angeles. This happened in the mountains east of LA,
Starting point is 00:02:14 way up in the mountains. This guy dressed as a delivery man goes up to this home. He knocks on the door. When the guy who's supposed to take the package comes to the door, he pulls out a gun and he shoots three or four times. We then learned that the victim was a lawyer. His name was Mark Angelucci. Angelucci died right there at the scene. I couldn't stop thinking about Mark. I would wake up in tears with my pillow already soaked. Just knowing that I now live in a world without Mark.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I'd never see him again. I'm Cassie Jay, and I'm a dear friend of Mark Angelucci. He was just a down-to-earth, at the center of his soul, a good-hearted person. Did your mind start racing about who could have done this? I didn't want to jump to any conclusions that this was planned, because it was Mark. It was, everyone loved Mark. Just eight days after Mark Angelucci was murdered, another crime took place, about 2,800 miles away in suburban New Jersey. It seemed like an exact copy, the delivery man, the gunshots.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I was notified that a shooting had occurred at a federal judge's residence in New Jersey. I'm Joe Denahan, FBI Newark field office. residence in New Jersey. I'm Joe Denahan, FBI Newark field office. Police telling us that that gunman was dressed up as a delivery man when he rang the doorbell here at their home. Right here behind me. Who would want to hurt the judge? Or who would want to hurt someone in her family?
Starting point is 00:03:57 Her college-age son sustained a gunshot wound to the chest. I get a call from one of my friends. He's like, there's an article that Dan was shot. Go to Google right now. So I go to Google, and sure enough, there's article after article after article just describing what's happening. Nothing inside of me believed it,
Starting point is 00:04:18 because I couldn't get over the fact I'd seen him five hours before. There's no way this is happening. Every article was saying that Dan had passed away at the scene. There was one that had said, no, like he's in the hospital, he's in bad shape, but he's alive. And that was the article that everyone was clinging to. Like, there's hope. What ended up happening was a man had come to their door to drop off a package. That man was not a FedEx employee.
Starting point is 00:04:49 That was a very bad man. Two heinous but similar crimes on opposite sides of the country. Were they connected? We did not have the subject in pocket. We had no idea who it was. You know, you have a violent and unstable person. So we were aggressively preparing for that possible confrontation. Редактор субтитров А.Семкин A.I.T.A. documentary filmmaker Cassie J still has a hard time grasping that her close friend Mark Angelucci is dead we almost had a kind-sisterly love for each other and respect, and he was my biggest protector and also my biggest cheerleader.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Angelucci had been living in Cedar Pines Park, California, a sleepy little village here in the San Bernardino Mountains east of Los Angeles. It was broad daylight when he came to his door to sign for that package on July 11th, 2020. The 52-year-old attorney never had a chance. He was shot point blank. This looked like a targeted assassination. Hermela Aragawi reported the story for CBS2 Los Angeles. It was actually someone else who answered the door,
Starting point is 00:07:14 but the delivery man insisted that Angelucci sign for the package. Detectives would learn that the shooter had used a.380 caliber handgun, but had precious few clues about his identity. He got away in a white car before anyone could stop him. It was, at the time, a complete mystery to everyone. The detectives couldn't tell us much. The sheriff's department didn't have much either. Cassie was nearly 500 miles away at her home in Marin County.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Tell us about Mark. Who was Mark Angelucci? Oh, if you could think of the most humble, sincere, fun, that was Mark. And all of his friends will tell you that. Mark was popular, and photos he posted online show his spirit. But he never married nor had any children. A sought-after attorney, his passion was his work. So when you say prominent attorney, I picture fancy suit, nice car, big house. Was that Mark? Not at all. I mean, couldn't be more opposite than that. He had a beat up car, old car. He was not a materialistic
Starting point is 00:08:37 person by any means. And he had a rare and controversial specialty, gender discrimination against men. He often spoke at conferences. I believe we need to hold people accountable for false accusations and not just talk about it. I met Mark when I went to interview him for my feature documentary, The Red Pill, which is about the men's rights movement. And at the time, I was very skeptical. I had been working on films about women's issues my entire adult life. Why do you think men's issues have been ignored for so long? I think there are a number of reasons. One of them is simply that men are conditioned not to complain as much,
Starting point is 00:09:23 especially if it's about a gender issue. Mark was not making a case for male supremacy, she says. What's more, he was not like the men she met who came to the men's rights movement after going through a bitter divorce or custody battle. And so it was more of a fight for justice in his eyes that we should all be treated equally. Domestic violence, you're starting, you're seeing more and more awareness about male victims
Starting point is 00:09:49 and false accusations. Fathers, custody rights, I think it's all a very slow process, but we are seeing awareness. Mark won Cassie over, not only as an advocate, but as a human being. And in the few hours long interview with him, I just adored him by the end of it. He was just so engaging. Of all the men's rights activists I met, he was really a unique character. So he didn't hate women? Oh no, no, no, no, no. Mark was strictly about fairness, justice, equality, no matter their gender. He was there to stand up for the underdog.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And since those so-called underdogs were often underfunded, she says, a lot of his work was pro bono. And he did most of that work for free. Yes. I know it's really shocking and kind of hard to believe, but he wasn't motivated by money. When Cassie's film was finished, she kept talking with Mark. He would just ramble on and on and on about everything that he had worked on, but then he would also want to ask me everything about my life, and we could just talk for endless hours. He was curious about you, too. It wasn't all about him. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:06 for endless hours. He was curious about you, too. It wasn't all about him. Oh, yeah. He was one of her most cherished friends by the time she got married in 2018. He made the six or seven hour drive. In my eyes, he just had to be there. I mean, he was really became a part of my family. He he really was a big part of my life. Now that someone took his life, Cassie wanted to know why. I mean, immediately I kind of went into detective mode. I was trying to make sense of who could do something so awful to Mark, of all people.
Starting point is 00:11:35 He didn't have any enemies, as far as you knew. Exactly. And I really wanted to hold space for it just being this fluke, maybe even accidental murder. But she did wonder if Mark's work made him a target. I started digging into the different cases that he was involved in. I realized that he was defending defenseless people in difficult situations, innocent people without a lot of money,
Starting point is 00:12:10 who were going up against very powerful people with a lot of money. Police said the motive was unknown and hoped someone would come forward with a tip. This was a strange crime. They knew that a killer was out there. They didn't know who, they didn't know why. They did have a well-founded fear that the killer would strike again. And sure enough, far away, a nearly identical crime was about to take place. Police are still here at the scene. They have had this entire street blocked off.
Starting point is 00:12:46 My whole body gave out. I was like, this isn't happening. And I was like, no. Like, this can't be true. In 2014, Laura Heavlin was in her home in Tennessee when she received a call from California. Her daughter, Erin Corwin, was missing. The young wife of a Marine had moved to the California desert, to a remote base near Joshua Tree National Park.
Starting point is 00:13:18 They have to alert the military, and when they do, the NCIS gets involved. From CBS Studios and CBS News, this is 48 Hours NCIS. Listen to 48 Hours NCIS ad-free starting October 29th on Amazon Music. Did you know that the movie Candyman was partly inspired by an actual murder? Listen to Candyman, the true story behind the bathroom mirror murder, early and ad-free on Wondery Plus and the Wondery app. Ad-free on Wondery Plus and the Wondery app. Nearly 3,000 miles away from the California town where Mark Angelucci was murdered, a family of a well-respected judge in suburban New Jersey was about to be blindsided by another vicious attack. Do you affirm that the oath you're about to take...
Starting point is 00:14:05 Esther Salas was the state's first Latina federal judge. I took an oath, and I stand by that oath. I follow the law. When she testified at her Senate nomination hearing in 2011, her family was at her side. Here is my husband, Mark Anderle, my son, Daniel, who's really excited. And he wanted me to make sure that Madam Chairwoman, that you knew that he got permission from his principal to be here, Sister Mary Louise. Daniel, their only child, was just 10 at the time. I can tell he's very proud of you. He has a big smile on his face. Federal Judge Salas' life story is inspiring. She was raised
Starting point is 00:14:47 with four siblings by an immigrant mother in a small apartment. At age 10, she rescued the family cat from a fire that left them homeless. Through it all, she diligently pursued her education, and she was a law intern when she fell in love with attorney Mark Anderle. He's highly energetic, easily distracted, hardworking, and a lot of fun to work with. David Oakley, Mark's law partner, is a close family friend. There's only three of them, and they were so close-knit and so affectionate. and so affectionate. Mark had a demanding workload, and his wife often handled hundreds of criminal and civil cases simultaneously.
Starting point is 00:15:35 But they both always had time for Daniel, who shared his father's passion for sports. Joe Augustine coached Daniel in baseball for 10 years. Dan was the ultimate teammate. He always came prepared. He always came with energy. And his talent was promising. But after graduating high school, Daniel chose not to participate in college sports. He was committed to following in his parents' footsteps.
Starting point is 00:16:07 He made a very conscious decision to focus on his studies. He definitely decided to try to aspire to law school. In 2018, he went off to the Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C. His parents remained as involved in his life as ever. I have never met a kid who speaks more highly of his parents. He, his mom, and his dad were his best friends in the world, and he would let you know that. Classmates Kat Haley and Sarah Peterson
Starting point is 00:16:37 say Daniel was a friend they could count on. There was a bug in our room at 2 in the morning, and we were terrified. We were like, Dan, get over here right now. He hops on his electric skateboard and is over within 30 seconds. In his pajamas. Ready to kill the bug. And then he was like, okay, anything else? We literally have a video of him dancing in the rain.
Starting point is 00:16:59 And if that doesn't, like, explain his character, I don't know what does. College continued to be a blast. In New York City, the virus is spreading so fast. But then came March 2020 and COVID. People are concerned there will not be enough resources to fight the disease. We went home for spring break and then they made the announcement, you're not coming back. It was weird going from seeing someone every single day to just all of a sudden just nothing. That summer, as Daniel's 20th birthday neared, he was sorely missing his friends. His parents worried about the pandemic, but felt if everyone adhered to guidelines, those friends could come visit for the weekend.
Starting point is 00:17:47 It was really awesome, really nice. Matthew Ziegler, one of Daniel's best friends, arrived, like the others, on Friday, July 17th. We were just hanging out outside, and mostly it was very nice out. His parents were actually catering dinner for us there. You picture a federal judge, and obviously she's very professional, but she's very friendly. We were chatting about boys and about what I wanted to do in the future.
Starting point is 00:18:10 She really took us under her wing. For a couple blissful days, there were no signs of trouble. We were just so happy to all finally see each other. It was incredible. And when they bid Daniel goodbye that Sunday, they had no inkling how bittersweet those moments would become. He was like, all right, love you. I said, love you too.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And that was kind of the last conversation we ended up having. All he kept saying that weekend was, this is the best weekend of my life. Hours later, Judge Salas says she and Daniel were still riding high as they cleaned up the basement. The weekend was a glorious one. She would later release this video telling what happened next. And we were chatting, as we always do. And Daniel said, Mom, let's keep talking.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I love talking to you, Mom. And it was at that exact moment that the doorbell rang. Upstairs, Mark peered out to see a man holding a package. We saw some FedEx guy. I thought it was odd. It was Sunday. But then again, Esther got a lot of FedExes because, you know, COVID and the courts being shut down. And Daniel looked at me and said, who is that? And before I could say a word, he sprinted upstairs. Daniel came springing
Starting point is 00:19:32 up the stair from the basement and opened the door. Within seconds, I heard the sound of bullets and someone screaming, no! As we were rolling out to the location, I certainly had a feeling that we were in uncharted territory here. On July 19, 2020, FBI Incident Commander Joe Denahan was sent on an urgent call. There was a shooting at Judge Esther Salas' home in New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:20:30 The details were daunting. An individual had rang the doorbell, had asked Danny, Judge Salas' son, to go get Judge Salas so she could sign for an envelope, a delivery. And at that point, a shooting began almost immediately right there in the foyer of their house, just a few inches in from the front door. By the time Esther Salas got upstairs from the basement, the shooter was gone. Mark, her husband of 25 years, had been shot three times and was critically injured. Their son was shot in the chest. They watched his life fade away. My family has experienced a pain that no one should ever have to endure.
Starting point is 00:21:15 As Mark was rushed to the hospital, investigators got to work. I think terrorism is always something we consider immediately. It was certainly at the forefront of our mind. We just didn't know if it was something that was an organized group or a single lone offender. A lone offender might be someone who held a grudge against one of Daniel's parents. It is still unclear if Judge Salas was the intended target or her husband. We had several people who had made either derogatory or borderline threatening comments to the judge, and we began to do profile workups on all those individuals.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Mark had briefly seen the shooter but could not describe him well. He described as best he could. He sustained a very, very serious gunshot wound to the abdomen. He was alive, he said, because of his son. As he told his friend David Oakley, Daniel died a hero. He said he remembered Daniel raising his arms and getting shot and falling back. Daniel, being Daniel, protected his father and he took the shooter's first bullet directly to the chest. Judge Salas and Mark Anderle were left with an unbearable loss.
Starting point is 00:22:35 They'd lived through four heartbreaking miscarriages and called Daniel their miracle baby. He was the center of their universe. While my husband is still in the hospital recovering from his multiple surgeries, we are living every parent's worst nightmare, making preparations to bury our only child, Daniel. He was also mourned by his friends. My initial reaction was kind of just sitting in my family room with my family and just praying. It was probably the hardest thing I've ever had to go through, still going through. It's horrible.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I can't even imagine who would do this and who would want to do this to such an innocent kid. Investigators were anxious to find out. Within a day, the case was in high gear. Police are still searching for the gunman who got away. With multiple federal and state agencies conducting investigations. federal and state agencies conducting investigations. At the same time, 150 miles away, on a remote road in New York State's Catskill Mountains, another case was just beginning. BRYAN WEBSTER, State Police Captain, Oregon State Police
Starting point is 00:23:57 Reagan Road is a dead-end road in a very rural section of northern Sullivan County. State Police Captain Bryan Webster says his troopers responded to a call and found a dead man with a bullet in his head. His body lay in the grass near an unoccupied car. He had a wallet with photo identification on it. The dead man was Roy Den Hollander, a 72-year-old attorney who lived in New York City. It didn't ring any bells. I didn't know the name. Who killed this out-of-town lawyer? And why here?
Starting point is 00:24:37 Murders are rare in this area. And if that's what this was, the cops had their work cut out for them. But the evidence at the scene pointed to something else. There's a Walther semi-automatic pistol located in very close proximity to the deceased subject there. It appeared that he had a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. Suicide is something that we handle all the time. And one particular item in the car was alarming. And one particular item in the car was alarming.
Starting point is 00:25:10 They had found a FedEx envelope that was addressed to Judge Esther Salas in New Jersey. And the investigator who actually finds the envelope was familiar with recent news reporting. He had known that Esther Salas was a federal judge whose son was recently murdered. Chopper 2 shows investigators swarming the scene. Webster immediately reported the apparent suicide to the FBI. He had used a.380 caliber handgun, and the.380 was the same caliber that was used at the judge's home. As unexpected as this was, the evidence seemed clear.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Roy Den Hollander shot Mark and Daniel Anderle, then drove to upstate New York and took his own life. He was unusual in a certain sense, you know, being 72 years old, a highly educated attorney member of the bar. But when police began looking through other items in his car, they discovered even more evidence that the now-dead New York attorney was a killer. They found an address, a residence in a small village in the mountains east of Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:26:13 When we ran the address through, we realized that there was a murder that had occurred at that address. That murder victim was Mark Angelucci, the California attorney gunned down by his front door just eight days before the attack in New Jersey. The details were chillingly familiar. He had to sign for a package. When the victim arrived at the front door, he was shot with a.38 caliber handgun. The California detectives had been stymied. Now, Roy Den Hollander appeared to be responsible for that crime, too. It was a mystery for San Bernardino County Sheriff's Office.
Starting point is 00:26:48 They had no subjects at the time, but they were actively working it, and they partnered well with us, so working closely with them, I think we were able to piece together a lot of the puzzle. Den Hollander did have the opportunity. Investigators learned that in early July, he had taken a cross-country train trip to Los Angeles. Here at Union Train Station in downtown Los Angeles, Den Hollander walked right through those doors.
Starting point is 00:27:14 He was caught on surveillance camera. Here's the picture. Authorities matched this photo with another image taken at another train station just four days earlier in San Bernardino, east of Los Angeles. Investigators say that's Den Hollander wearing a mask and calmly carrying a cup of coffee. That train station was just 20 miles from Angelucci's home. The timeline fit.
Starting point is 00:27:38 After the murder, as California detectives searched for clues, Den Hollander was on his way back east, ultimately to Judge Salas' home. It's terrifying to think that there are people out there who are capable of these sorts of crimes. FBI investigators were convinced that Roy Den Hollander committed both of these crimes, but they had no motive, and they didn't know why he chose these victims
Starting point is 00:28:06 who lived so far apart. There was a lot to learn about the cold-blooded killer and his troubled past that included a stint in Moscow, a Russian model, even a televised street brawl. Leave the guy alone! Oh, my God! Police! See how investigators piece together the gunman's movements at 48hours.com. Hotshot Australian attorney Nicola Gaba was born into legal royalty. Her specialty? Representing some of the city's most infamous gangland criminals. However, while Nicola held the underworld's darkest secrets,
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Starting point is 00:30:22 or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to The Best Idea Yet early and ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus. It's just the best idea yet. The FBI believed that the three incidents were linked. The murder of a San Bernardino County attorney is connected to a deadly shooting at a federal judge's home in New Jersey. Two harrowing crimes. Mark Angelucci was killed. 2,800 miles apart.
Starting point is 00:30:56 What caused a man to open fire inside a federal judge's home in New Jersey? And one suicide. Roy Denhollander discovered dead in his car today. On a far away dead end road. A multi-state homicide investigation is not something that we deal with very often. After attorney Roy Denhollander took his own life, the agents later found a lengthy online manuscript he left behind, part memoir, part manifesto. We were dealing with an unstable person who I think is fair to say was a coward.
Starting point is 00:31:32 He was a ticking time bomb, hiding in plain sight. But he had once had a successful career. Roy was a very personable, articulate, affable guy. Joe Serio met Den Hollander in Moscow. It was 1999, and Serio worked for an American consulting firm there, overseeing its investigations. Den Hollander was a new hire. He had a bit of charisma about him. Den Hollander had a new hire. He had a bit of charisma about him. Dan Hollander had an impressive resume.
Starting point is 00:32:07 He once worked for a prestigious law firm and had earned an Ivy League MBA. This is a guy who apparently is successful and he's in good shape. Even so, something seemed off. He also dyed his hair. And he had nothing against dyeing hair, but he told us why. Why? Because he could pick up babes easier that way. Babes, that was the word he used.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Yeah, babes is the word he used a lot. And my idea of what a 50-year-old is and how they should be, quote-unquote, conducting themselves, it wasn't matching up. Dan Hollander wasted no time hitting Russian bars and clubs. It was an obsession. He was fixated on women and going out and chatting up women, dancing with women, picking up women. Serio, whose new book is titled Vodka, Hookers, and the Russian Mafia, my life in Moscow, recognized the risk. At the time, Russia was in the throes of political and economic upheaval. I've been here for 10 years.
Starting point is 00:33:13 You just parachuted in. I know what happens to foreigners who go chasing women. What happens to them? They get drugged. They get robbed. Every once in a while, they got killed. In this case, that didn't happen. Den Hollander stayed in Russia for a year,
Starting point is 00:33:31 married a 24-year-old woman named Alina, and moved back to the States with her. What did he tell you about her? He talked about her body. She was a model, apparently, or a model status. You know, that kind of a body, that kind of attractiveness. These photos of Alina were on Den Hollander's website. The union was contentious and short-lived.
Starting point is 00:33:53 They filed for divorce, both claiming cruel treatment. In his memoir, Den Hollander rips into his ex-wife, calling her a poison dragon. One of the themes that we saw was he was a very angry person and he was a misogynist and he blamed women for the failures of his life. It would take about this much paper, 2,000 pages to print Den Hollander's entire manuscript. It's largely a hate-filled diatribe against females,
Starting point is 00:34:24 starting with his mother and extending to women in positions of power. Let me read you just a couple lines from it. As for that most virulent form of female evil, the feminazis, I despise them, despise them for the harm they've intentionally done to men. He vows to fight them until his last breath. When I was reading his manifesto, I was imagining a person walking into a pool, and he's walking into this pool his whole life. After his divorce, Dan Hollander began filing a flurry of lawsuits aimed to eliminate what he saw as female privilege, most notably ladies' nights at bars. The person who might be taken advantage of is me. Girls have power.
Starting point is 00:35:09 They've always had power. Let's go dance. Somebody argued ladies' nights in bars is a benefit to men. So why in God's name are you trying to get rid of that? But he saw it as... He saw it as just another way those bitches are cutting out the legs from underneath men. The self-described anti-feminist lawyer became a go-to guy for provocative media stories. And who eats more? Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:35:42 But only against the feminists. All right. It's obvious to everyone outside of him that none of this makes him look good. He's losing cases. He's losing decisions. And sometimes he lost his composure. As seen here, when he was shooting a profile with a French TV crew and took his anger to the streets. What? You want to fight? You want to fight?
Starting point is 00:36:13 At 70 years old, he plays the sheriff. But do you think there was also a part of him that realized people were laughing at him? Or at least rolling their eyes at him? I don't know how he could not have seen it. The last time you went out, whose car was it? Who paid for the taxi? Who paid for the dinner? I've picked up my share of tabs in my time, in my life, thank you very much. Well, what are you doing tonight, then?
Starting point is 00:36:41 Den Hollander wrote that he was diagnosed with a deadly form of melanoma in 2018. He berated his doctors and continued his rants. In July 2020, his rage turned deadly. Why did he go after Mark Angelucci? In Roy's mind, Mark was guilty of encroaching on Roy's territory. Angelucci's hard work had been paying off. He had made some progress in court with male discrimination cases involving the all-male military draft. Mark didn't even realize that he was in danger, that this guy had a grudge.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I don't think so. Cassie J. didn't realize it either, although she'd spent considerable time researching men's rights. Had you ever heard of this guy, Roy Denhollander? No, I've never heard of him. He's never come across my radar. He wasn't embraced by the men's rights movement. No one referred him to me. As for Esther Salas, investigators believe she was targeted
Starting point is 00:37:43 because Denhollander blamed her, wrongly, for slowing down one of his lawsuits. In spewing hate-filled words, he called her a, quote, lazy and incompetent Latina judge. David Oakley is still trying to make sense of the damage Den Hollander caused. People are capable of evil. It's often probably very difficult to distinguish it from derangement. But there is evil. And of course, there could be some kind of combination of the two. This was not one of those cases where you would say, oh, this is the last person I would expect to do something.
Starting point is 00:38:20 It wasn't that. It made sense. It wasn't that. It made sense. No one knows why Roy Den Hollander chose to drive to this remote part of the Catskills. But when he was a child, his family had a vacation home nearby. As FBI agents continued going through those papers left at the scene, they found other unsettling leads. More names.
Starting point is 00:38:49 We did uncover a list of a large number of individuals. Some were in the legal field, some were in the medical field. There is no publicly known evidence that Royden Hollander harmed anyone other than the known victims, but investigators were unnerved to find papers in his car with yet more names, including other judges and people in the medical field. We always assumed nefarious intent with someone like this, and so we wanted to make sure that although we didn't think there was any existing threat to them anymore, we wanted to let them know that their name was found on this list. FBI agents concluded that the 72-year-old attorney had acted alone. We know a great deal about Mr.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Hollander. We spent, you know, hundreds of hours analyzing his writings. His website had a lot of sexist, racist, hate speech on it. You said that the men's rights movement is not angry white men with a chip on their shoulder about women. And yet this guy was an angry white man with a chip on his shoulder about women. If you want an example, Royden Hollander wrote a book and he dedicated it to his mom, May She Burn in Hell. may she burn in hell. Despite the grudge he held against Mark Angelucci, Cassie J. says the killer was nowhere near Mark's equal as an advocate. What are the big cases that he took on for men's rights?
Starting point is 00:40:39 So one of his proudest accomplishments was he sued the state of California for refusing to fund services for male victims of domestic violence. And he won that case on equal protection clause in California. Mark scored other legal victories, she says, but never lost his sense of humanity. He lived a life that we should all strive to emulate. And anyone who knew him were better for it. Daniel Anderle barely made it to age 20, but he too lived a purposeful life. He would always be one of the first people I'd go to for advice about anything, and he was always there to listen. He was such a good listener.
Starting point is 00:41:31 He truly is one of the best people I've ever met in my entire life. We were always texting each other, like, if anything bad was going on, it was, hey, like, let me talk to you really quick, like, just let me get your opinions. The quality that I admired about him most was his ability to love others, and his ability to love even when he was hurt by others. He was a very low-stress guy, and I think it was because he just lived in the present moment so well. His friends all remember that tight-knit relationship he had with his mother and father.
Starting point is 00:42:02 He was so proud of his parents. He loved what they did. His mom was a federal judge of New Jersey. He was ecstatic. And he talked about her accomplishments and his father's accomplishments all the time. I just want to be there and support them in any way I can. David Oakley is eager to help his friends. He was Daniel's godfather,
Starting point is 00:42:29 and they shared a deep devotion to their faith. I have direct evidence that he died heroically, that he had a holy death. And so I have no hesitation about praying to Daniel, and I have been. There is nobody else I know that would do something like that except for Dan to sacrifice his own life to save someone else. And it was instinctual for him.
Starting point is 00:42:59 In that moment, he knew, this is what I have to do. This is what I'm going to do. Seven months after taking three bullets, Mark Anderle is still recovering. He's on the mend, but it's a very slow, slow process. He and Judge Salas have now found a way to have Daniel's goodwill live on. My son's death cannot be in vain. The judge says the shooter was looking for her that day and had no problem finding her at her own home. The free flow of information from the internet allowed this sick and depraved human being to find all our personal information and target us. She and her husband
Starting point is 00:43:48 have been fighting hard to change that, and in November 2020, they scored a major victory. New Jersey's governor signed a new law named for their son. I am honored today to sign Daniel's law, judge. The law prohibits making the home address of judges available to the public. Daniel's law will make a difference. It will protect judges from senseless acts of violence. It's a fitting legacy, she says. In the seconds before his death, Daniel asked me to keep talking to him because he loved talking to me.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Well Daniel, on behalf of all New Jersey judges, I thank you son for all you have done. This is now the law of the land. Judge Salas and Mark Anderle are now taking Daniel's law to the U.S. Congress, using it as a model for what they hope will become a federal law. They remain as devoted to their son as ever. I am profoundly moved by seeing how Mark and Esther are dealing with
Starting point is 00:45:11 this unspeakable event. They've turned it into something positive for others. for others. Legislation inspired by Daniel's Law has been introduced in the U.S. Congress. In the Pacific Ocean, halfway between Peru and New Zealand, lies a tiny volcanic island. It's a little-known British territory called Pitcairn, and it harboured a deep, dark scandal.
Starting point is 00:45:53 There wouldn't be a girl on Pitcairn once they reached the age of 10 that would still a virgin. It just happens to all of them. I'm journalist Luke Jones, and for almost two years, I've been investigating a shocking story that has left deep scars on generations of women and girls from Pitcairn. When there's nobody watching, nobody going to report it, people will get away with what they can get away with. In the Pitcairn trials I'll be uncovering a story of abuse and the fight for justice that has brought
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