48 Hours - The Hunt for the Long Island Serial Killer

Episode Date: December 13, 2020

New clues in one of the largest unsolved murder cases in the U.S. A victim’s daughter speaks out for the first time. "48 Hours" correspondent Erin Moriarty reports.See Privacy Policy a...t https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:57 ConstantContact.ca Do you remember the last time you spoke with your sister? I do. She called me Sunday night at 11.30 at a train station in New York. From Penn Station. I could hear the motion from the train station. So you don't think she knew she was in danger at that time that she called you? No. From the time that she called me, it was poof, she was gone.
Starting point is 00:02:26 My sister's missing. Like like this isn't normal. There was a ping from her phone after she went missing on Long Island. They knew that there was something very, very wrong here. A young lady was reported missing, Shannon Gilbert. and very, very wrong here. Young lady was reported missing. Shannon Gilbert. The missing persons unit had been involved in trying to locate this young lady, find out what happened to her.
Starting point is 00:03:03 We found human remains. It seemed to be wrapped in burlap, which didn't make any sense. Everyone assumed it was Shannon Gilbert. But it wasn't, was it? No. The crime scene gets expanded. I'm called, and chief, we found another set of remains. They find another one and another one. We were dealing with a serial killer.
Starting point is 00:03:33 But they're all 4 foot 11, very petite, hazel, green eyes. This killer has a type. Right. Does he want the petite body because he wants to feel more empowered and more in control? Is it easier to dispose of a lighter body? Investigators have found 10 sets of human remains. A gruesome discovery, 10 victims in all.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Things started to click as I was watching that. I have a feeling that this is Murray. One of them, Murray. I just had a feeling that this is Maureen. One of them, Maureen. I just had a feeling. The detectives came to my house and just said that Maureen has been positively identified as one of the victims on Ocean Parkway. I have my sister's death always on the back of my mind. The killer or killers still are loose.
Starting point is 00:04:41 No justice has been done. It's a symbol of the complete failure of the police department to do its job. My name is Jerry Hart. I'm the commissioner of the Suffolk County Police Department. So it's, again, a very complex case, but I can tell you that we are fully committed to this investigation. We believe that the belt was handled by the suspect and did not belong to any of the victims. We're working very hard that we're dedicated to this investigation. What I want most is answers and justice and I also want that the world to know that my sister mattered. Thank you. It's really, really hard.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I miss her so much. Melissa Cann will never forget that wintry day 10 years ago when she got the devastating news. I want answers. I just want answers. The remains of her older sister, Maureen Brainerd Barnes, missing for more than three years, had been discovered on Long Island. Was there any relief in at least knowing what happened to your sister?
Starting point is 00:06:39 Or was it worse? It's worse. You're waiting. I don't know. I don't know what I'm waiting on. She'll never come back. Okay, good morning, everybody. Former Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer was stunned to have found the remains of four young women
Starting point is 00:07:00 on an isolated stretch of Long Island's Ocean Parkway near Gilgo Beach. It looks like a car pulled up and opened the door and the bodies were dumped into the bushes. Eventually, police would find 10 sets of remains in the area. Maureen and three others were found first and dubbed the Gilgo Four. Discarded in a similar fashion, roughly 500 feet apart, each of them swathed in burlap. I think burlap was selected because its ability to take dampness, moisture, and breathe, which would promote decay, as well as act as camouflage.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Dominic Ferone was chief of the Suffolk County detectives in 2010. Everybody knows the chief. He's retired from the police force, but is still haunted by the man who got away, the Long Island serial killer. It was probably the biggest case we ever had, and we put a tremendous amount of effort into that case. of effort into that case. Maureen was the first of the Gilgo Four to disappear that summer night in 2007. Her sister Missy believed Maureen had gone to Manhattan for a modeling shoot. And when she
Starting point is 00:08:15 was on her way home, made that call from Penn Station. I'll see you in the morning. Love you. That was the last time I talked to her. I don't think it's a coincidence that four bodies ended up in this area. Long Island Serial Killer. 48 Hours has reported on the Long Island Serial Killer from the beginning. My sister was a wonderful person. And over the years, Missy talked to us about Maureen. She was very smart, very creative.
Starting point is 00:08:46 She liked being a mom? She loved being a mom. But she faced obstacles as a single mom of two with no driver's license nor college degree. Maureen would come and use my laptop. She would go and look for the Help Wanted ads. These are all the jobs that she applied for. She was looking for fast food jobs, grocery store jobs, telemarketer jobs, I mean, over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:09:13 By early 2007, things seemed to be looking up for Maureen. She had got a job at a telemarketing place, and she was doing really well, and she got her own apartment she was really proud she was a very giving person and very loyal and she made a new friend Sarah Carnes we were office besties you could never ever ever be bored around her when Maureen went missing in 2007, her sister was filled with dread. I had a drive in me to be like, oh, I'm going to find my sister. Like I'm not going to stop until I find my sister. Missy called the police, reported Maureen missing in her hometown of Norwich, Connecticut,
Starting point is 00:09:57 and also in New York City. She didn't run away. Someone has her. This isn't normal. My sister is gone. Missy logged into Maureen's email accounts and got a shock. In the days before Maureen disappeared, she was under enormous financial pressure. Maureen was about to be evicted from her apartment and was facing an ugly, expensive court battle for custody of one of her young children.
Starting point is 00:10:29 From her emails, I could see how desperate she was to get money to be able to save herself from being evicted. And save her son? Save custody of her son? Yeah. She was terrified because her baby was going to be taken away from her forever. But she's working. Yep. It wasn't enough. Working that stupid telemarketing job was not enough.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Maureen's emails revealed another secret. She was a sex worker. It wasn't modeling that brought her to New York. Instead, she and Sarah had gone to earn extra money as sex workers, advertising on Craigslist. It was kind of devastating to learn, but my main focus was to find my sister. I didn't care what she was doing. Sarah helped Missy reconstruct Maureen's last weekend. Sarah described how they learned they had been banned from Craigslist for a few days and they couldn't post ads for clients.
Starting point is 00:11:34 So they decided to update their photos instead and hired a photographer. She picked old 40s Hollywood glamour. The way her curls fell that day just looked so 40s with the makeup and everything like that. She was just so beautiful. All dressed up, the two young women wandered around Times Square like carefree tourists. It was just awesome. We were untouchable.
Starting point is 00:11:59 But the next day, Sarah returned to Norwich and says Maureen remained to make more money. You've been flagged by Craigslist. You're not able to put your ad on Craigslist. So how would Maureen meet anybody on that Sunday? She had regulars. So does that mean whoever took her and killed her was someone she had seen before? Most likely.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And Kilder was someone she had seen before? Most likely. But Missy had no luck in her search. Months became years. All she knew was that someone had taken her sister. How old was this person? How did this person look? How did he break through her guard?
Starting point is 00:12:55 Miles away in Maine, a 14-year-old girl struggles with what happened to her mother. I want them to find out who did it. Who vanished when she was just three years old. Part of you is, like, missing. It. It's just like something's always off. She tells her story on television for the very first time. In 2014, Laura Heavlin was in her home in Tennessee when she received a call from California. Her daughter, Erin Corwin, was missing. The young wife of a Marine had moved to the California desert to a remote base near Joshua Tree National Park. They have to alert the military, and when they do, the NCIS gets involved.
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Starting point is 00:15:17 Not a day goes by that 14-year-old Lily Waterman doesn't miss her mom, Megan. I would do anything to bring her back, but I can't, and it just, like, frustrates me so bad. Lily was just three years old when Megan vanished. Waterman was last seen in Toppock, New York, on Long Island at a Holiday Inn Express. York on Long Island at a Holiday Inn Express. Megan's family says the 22-year-old from Scarborough, Maine, was a spunky but troubled kid who loved fashion. And in this video at the time of her disappearance, the family said she would never have willingly left her daughter. This little girl was her life.
Starting point is 00:16:11 was her life. Lily, do you remember when your mom disappeared? Yeah, it's very like blurry because it was so long ago. I was just very like confused on why she like wasn't around. That's all I can like remember really. Lily says her memories of her mother's boyfriend Akeem Cruz are clear. All things I do like remember of her are bad times when Akeem was hitting her, was hitting me, was just being like rude. It was scary. You were scared for your life. Why did she stay with him? Fear. Megan's aunt Elizabeth Mes, says the family encouraged Megan to leave Cruz. She was afraid he would hurt her family, he would hurt Liliana. Cruz began taking Megan to Long Island, where he pushed her into prostitution. When she was away, Megan called Lily every night.
Starting point is 00:17:08 And when she didn't call, then I know that was her last day. June 6, 2010. Megan was seen exiting this hotel in Hoppog at 1.30 a.m. There's footage of her walking down a little side path, I guess, that's along the back or the side of the hotel. She never returned. Back in Scarborough, the family heard from Cruz that Megan was missing. They reported her disappearance to the police.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Chief Dom Verone says Akeem Cruz was already on his radar. We knew his background, and we knew at that time that they had crossed state lines coming from Maine to Long Island. So we actually had the FBI unit involved in that case in June of 2010. He set up all her dates. Wouldn't he know the last person she saw? You would think. That was a very, very heavy part of the investigation. Verone concluded Cruz did not know who Megan's client was that night and had nothing to do with her disappearance. Detectives continued their search for her, and in December 2010, found her, one of the Gilgo Four. The police found her, and so Lily said, they found my mom, so why didn't they bring her home?
Starting point is 00:18:46 But when Lily grew older and more tech savvy, she typed her mom's name into the internet search bar. Was that tough? Yeah, for sure. I couldn't process it because my whole life, I thought that she just got like stolen and she never came back. I didn't realize how, like, the line of work she was doing, how, like, brutal it was. I didn't realize that part of it. Police say the remains of Melissa Bartholomew and three other victims were found in burlap bags in shallow graves along this beach. How often do you think about Melissa? Every single minute of the day. Lynn Bartholomew's 24-year-old daughter Melissa had been missing a year and a half when her remains turned up on Gilgo Beach. It just didn't happen to the girls. I mean, it destroyed all of
Starting point is 00:19:41 our families. Melissa moved from her ho work as a hairdresser. At to sex work. When she sto July of 2009, her mother on the internet, we start I didn't know what, but I to be wrong. About a week later, her then 15-year-old sister got a call from Melissa's phone. We agreed not to show her face.
Starting point is 00:20:14 She was so excited. Oh my God, Melissa's finally calling me. And then there's a guy on the other end. Suffolk County police told 48 Hours that they believe the caller was in fact Melissa's killer. He called seven times, threatening her younger sister and torturing her with details of Melissa's murder. The last of the Gilgo Four to disappear was Amber Costello, a sex worker who vanished from her home on Long Island in September of 2010.
Starting point is 00:20:49 She was an amazing person. She really was. Amber's friend and former roommate Dave Schaller says she was a drug addict who used sex work to support her habit. As amazing as she was, was as tormented as she was was as tormented as she was. Verone says Amber, Megan, Melissa, and Maureen were all asphyxiated. There were other striking similarities. Very petite, five foot or under, 100 pounds, hazel, green eyes. You believe this killer has a specific type of woman that he was choosing to kill? Right.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Verone worked with the FBI to come up with a profile of the killer. He says the fact that the women posted ads online allowed the killer to scroll through photos in search of his ideal victim. If he desires a particular height and weight and eye color, he can do that. All right. Everybody ready?
Starting point is 00:21:49 Yep. Mary, our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. The Gilgo Four had another thing in common. Ready? Let's go! Families who love them. Look at them go. They're beautiful. Oh my God, they look so them. Look at them go. They're beautiful. Oh my god, they look so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:22:07 They do. Wow. They're beautiful just like all the girls. That's right. In December of 2011, they erected a cross. spot where each woman was found, they erected a cross. And as the sun went down, they held a vigil in their honor. I remember Shannon for the loving daughter. It was the search for Shannon Gilbert that led to the discovery of the Gilgo Four.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I remember her also as our girl's angels. And remember Shannon for Shannon. And their families embraced Shannon's mother, Mary, as one of their own. But where was Shannon? In the Pacific Ocean, halfway between Peru and New Zealand, lies a tiny volcanic island. It's a little-known British territory called Pitcairn,
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Starting point is 00:25:44 When the police found the Gilgo 4, Cherie Gilbert, 22 at the time, was certain her missing sister Shannon would be among them. What's the first thing that comes to mind when you think about Shannon? Her singing. The jokes that we would tell. Like Maureen Brainerd Barnes, Megan Waterman, Melissa Bartholomew, and Amber Costello, Shannon was working as an escort the night she vanished. She was a talented young woman from a troubled family, dreaming of a singing and acting
Starting point is 00:26:11 career. At the age of 16 she graduated from high school. She skipped a grade. Smart then, really smart. Yeah, she had a lot of potential. Shannon was visiting a client in the gated community of Oak Beach, Long Island, eight miles from Gilgo Beach, when she vanished on May 1, 2010. Her family filed missing persons reports and drove from home in upstate New York to Oak Beach, desperate to find her. Oak Beach is a very eerie place to me. It seems very desolate, very isolated, cold. The family learned that Shannon's driver dropped her off here at her client's house at 2 a.m. Nearly three hours later, Shannon made a panicked 23-minute call to 911.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Still on the phone, she fled the client's home and ran to a neighbor's door, and then another's, begging for help. And then she disappeared. Weeks and then months passed with no word from Shannon. Former chief of detectives Don Verone says the police questioned her client and dismissed him as a suspect, but took her disappearance seriously. Canine searched the area of Oak Beach exhaustively for Shannon that they made that stunning discovery of the Gilgo Four. And in the spring of 2011, six more sets of remains. Victim number five, Jessica Taylor, an escort missing since 2003. Another set of remains, police called Jane Doe number six. Number seven, to their surprise, a toddler girl, number eight, an Asian man, number nine and ten, a female skull and a bag of another person's bones, both found in nearby Nassau County.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Police weren't sure if these newly discovered bodies were victims of the same killer. They kept looking for Shannon, and in December of 2011, a year and a half after she disappeared... They found the pocketbook belonging to Shannon Gilbert. Shannon's purse, shoes, cell phone, even her jeans were found in the marsh. The items were found a distant apart. A week later, a quarter of a mile from her belongings. And yellow crime scene tape. They finally found Shannon.
Starting point is 00:28:56 To get that phone call when I was in school, it was just devastating. And then, to Cherie's shock, investigators said they didn't think Shannon was murdered. Instead, based on her frantic 911 call, they theorized she might have been high on drugs and had run into the marsh where she died of hypothermia or possible drowning. She's running, running down the street, pounding on doors, runs into this marsh. The Gilberg family didn't believe her death was accidental and retained Long Island attorney John Ray. She was put there. He decided to retrace the path authorities believe Shannon traveled. We're going into the marsh now.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Barone says her skeletal remains were found collapsed in thick brush. To say that she drowned, as was theorized, is on its face an absurdity. Ray also commissioned a second autopsy. A private forensic pathologist determined that a damaged hyoid bone in Shannon's neck suggested she may have been strangled. He said that that would be consistent with homicide.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Ray soon turned his attention to one Oak Beach resident, a local physician, Dr. Peter Hackett. Shannon had last been seen in the area near his home, and her belongings were found scattered in the marsh behind his house. And two days after Shannon disappeared, Cherise says Hackett made a disturbing phone call to Shannon's mother, Mary Gilbert. He identified himself, told Mary that he was running a home for Wayward girls and that Shannon wanted to enter the home. A New Jersey detective told us Hackett told him the same story. But when Mary Gilbert went out to talk to him, Dr. Hackett denied it. I never saw her. I never met her. Despite Hackett's denials, Ray believes the doctor did encounter Shannon early that morning
Starting point is 00:31:04 and gave her improper medical treatment. Ray filed a civil suit against Peter Hackett in 2012 for wrongful death and malpractice. The wrongful death claim has been dismissed. Malpractice claims are still pending. It wasn't an accident. If it were an accident, her belongings wouldn't have been found behind Peter Hackett's home. Her jeans wouldn't have been removed. Dr. Hackett declined our request for an interview. Previously, he wrote us saying, quote, I never treated her. She was never in my home. He says he only called Shannon's family to offer support.
Starting point is 00:31:44 And we didn't pay that much attention to him. I don't think we missed anything. Chief Farone says he doesn't think Hackett is a murderer. He says some call him a storyteller. I do not think Suffolk County has put any effort into investigating Peter Hackett to this day. And in 2015, John Ray helped the Gilbert family bury Shannon in a Long Island cemetery not far from Oak Beach. It was sad, you know, my mom was really, really,
Starting point is 00:32:17 really emotional and we all were. It was just basically like our final goodbye to Shannon. We come to perpetuate Shannon. Are you surprised that she's chosen for this higher purpose of justice? Well, I'm not. The murderer will be outed. I have to prove it. And I intend to prove it.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Shannon, rest now. We all have much to do. Go inside the case at 48hours.com. Shannon would still be alive today if Suffolk County Police had actually done their job. In early 2012, weeks after the discovery of Shannon Gilbert's remains, her family's attorney, John Ray, dug in, trying to understand what had happened to her. The Suffolk County Police Department failed to protect the lives of these people who are now gone. Yet, with 11 dead and no killer in custody, the Suffolk County Police Department went through an upheaval that would have a lasting impact on the case. We won't know for certain.
Starting point is 00:33:41 First, Chief of Detectives Dominic Varone suddenly found himself out of a job. I get a phone call that I'm being told to retire within 15 days or I'd be demoted to captain. I'm yanked off the case. I was pushed out. Varone had been spearheading what would become the largest unsolved murder case in New York's history. I had a tremendous amount of knowledge in the case. And he says he was not allowed to share what he knew about the serial killer with the new investigators.
Starting point is 00:34:12 That had to hurt the credibility of the investigation. That hurt the investigation and the public's perception. A new regime led by James Burke took over the department. Don't become a statistic. Burke was named the new Suffolk County police chief. He was extremely powerful for police chief. Longtime newspaper reporter Gus Garcia Roberts is writing a book about Burke. He was charming. It's an individual split-second decision. And then in other situations, intimidating and sort of brutish, more akin to like a mob boss than a police chief Burke had
Starting point is 00:34:48 an unlikely rise up the ranks in part because he had a powerful backer Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas Spoda they had their own little fiefdom there Burke and Spoda met in 1979 when the brutal murder of a boy found behind this school rocked the peaceful suburb of Smithtown, Long Island. There's a lot of pressure to solve the case. The victim was 13-year-old John Pius Jr. Tom Spoda was the young, sort of ambitious prosecutor. His specialty was getting that witness who said exactly what the case needed in order to sort of clinch it. James Burke was just 14 at the time. Everybody called him Jimmy back then.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Burke and others testified against four teenage boys. Tom Spoda by then had taken a shine to the kid and had taken him under his wing to some extent. The ambitious young Spoda later became district attorney of Suffolk County. James Burke became a cop and by age 27 was already a sergeant in the police department. To one of the highest paid departments in the country. Former Suffolk County detective John Oliva, who investigated gang violence, says Burke's background set him apart from most other cops there. A lot of professional guys. You know, most guys have a college degree or they were in the military. I heard that James Burke had none of that.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Burke's unprofessional behavior set him apart, too. He's a reckless character driven by sex. In the early 1990s, he had sex with a prostitute in his police car and also failed to safeguard his weapon. He left his gun behind, then she recovered his weapon. Internal Affairs investigated the incident, but Burke kept his job. Oliva suspects Boda may have protected him. Wouldn't something like that end most cops' careers? Something like that should end most cops' careers. I mean, he became police chief.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Chief of the department. Four-star. And the man tasked with finding the elusive serial killer. We have 11 dead people and nobody's found anybody connected to them? Something that frustrates attorney John Ray. The man who patronized sex workers is in charge of the investigation of murdered sex workers. Burke ended cooperation with the FBI on the serial killer case. Was it because Burke didn't want to share credit or was it to keep out prying eyes?
Starting point is 00:37:26 It could be a combination of both. Many believe losing FBI technology and expertise slowed down the investigation. If I'm the chief of department and I've got dead bodies on the side of the road, I would take any help I could get. But James Burke soon had other problems, beginning one night in December 2012, when a petty thief named Christopher Loeb picked the wrong SUV to rob. It happened to be James Burke's police truck, and Loeb didn't know that. Loeb stole Burke's duffel bag containing his gun belt, porn, and sex toys. containing his gun belt, porn, and sex toys. Loeb was arrested, locked into a room, and chained to the floor. According to court testimony, detectives began to beat him before Burke himself took over.
Starting point is 00:38:21 He starts slapping Chris Loeb, choking him, grabbing him by his ears, yelling at him, threatening him that he's going to give him a hot shot, which is a laced heroin injection, which would be fatal. Every time I asked for a lawyer, I got hit again. I got hit again. I got choked. I got choked. I got punched. I got slapped. I got kicked. The rumor mills were running wild. It was out there that this had occurred. When the FBI investigated, Burke, with the help of his mentor, District Attorney Tom Spoda, began a cover-up.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Other investigations, including the serial killer case, languished. His first priority clearly wasn't this serial killing on his turf. His top priority was staying out of prison. Mr. Spoda, is there anything that you can say to us, sir? Do you plan to resign, sir? Spoda was eventually convicted of obstruction of justice, witness tampering, and conspiracy in the Chris Loeb case. A tumbling fall from grace.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Political shock waves on Long Island tonight. And in February 2016, James Burke pleaded guilty to violating Loeb's civil rights and conspiracy to obstruct justice. He was sentenced to 46 months in federal prison. He got what he deserved. Burke declined our request for an interview. There's always been throughout his career this thin line between being a cop and being
Starting point is 00:39:42 a criminal. With the serial killer case seemingly stalled, graffiti appeared accusing the former chief of being the serial killer. Investigators don't believe Burke had anything to do with the murders, but that hasn't stopped the gossip. It speaks to a complete absence of trust in the law enforcement system in Suffolk County, which, regardless of any veracity of that graffiti, I think it scared to watch. It was called Candyman.
Starting point is 00:40:37 The scary cult classic was set in the Chicago housing project. It was about this supernatural killer who would attack his victims if they said his name five times into a bathroom mirror. Candyman. Candyman? Now, we all know chanting a name won't make a killer magically appear, but did you know that the movie Candyman was partly inspired by an actual murder? I was struck by both how spooky it was, but also how outrageous it was. We're going to talk to the people who were there, and we're also going to uncover the larger story. My architect was shocked when he saw how this was created.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Literally shocked. And we'll look at what the story tells us about injustice in America. If you really believed in tough on crime, then you wouldn't make it easy to crawl into medicine cabinets and kill our women. Listen to Candyman, the true story behind the bathroom mirror murder, wherever you get your podcasts. Why are these serial killer cases harder than regular homicides? Because they're a stranger to the victim, which is unusual in homicide cases. Geraldine Hart, a career FBI agent, was assigned to the Long Island Bureau when the agency
Starting point is 00:41:58 was cut out from the serial killer investigation. Not having the FBI involved consistently from the beginning has definitely hindered this investigation. Not having the FBI involved consistently from the beginning has definitely hindered this investigation. And in 2018, Hart became the Suffolk County Police Commissioner. We are fully committed to this investigation. We are utilizing every technique available, every technology that we can.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Today we are announcing that Jane Doe number six has been positively identified as Valerie Mack. Using new genetic genealogy tools, investigators were finally able to identify one of the victims found on Ocean Parkway. She has a name and she's a person and she has a family. Valerie Mack, who was 24 years old in 2000 when she went missing, was described as five feet tall and approximately 100 pounds with brown hair and hazel eyes.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Many of these characteristics are shared by the Gilgo Four. Identifying Valerie gave investigators new leads. New associates and friends and family to talk to, people who can tell us her whereabouts and her connections. The department also released images of evidence. A black leather belt embossed with the letters HM
Starting point is 00:43:16 or WH was recovered during the initial stages of this investigation. Hart says the belt belonged to a large male. It's an item that we feel was handled by the suspect, did not belong to any of the victims, and was found at one of the crime scenes along Ocean Parkway. To attorney John Ray, it's too little, too late. Why isn't there an explanation as to why, after nine years, the initials of the belt were finally, for the first
Starting point is 00:43:45 time, revealed. What's more, Ray says he has offered Shannon's computer, papers, and cell phones to the department. Hart has declined to look at them, saying there's no way to know if the evidence has been tampered with. But Hart insists Shannon's case is still open. So you're saying that they're still investigating her death? Certainly. As a possible homicide? As a possible homicide. Ray fought for and won access to the 911 calls made that night. He's forbidden by court order from sharing the contents,
Starting point is 00:44:18 but insists they shed light on Shannon's disappearance. Ray vows he'll never stop fighting for Shannon. John, tell me why you become emotional even talking about this. It's hard to say. I've put a good part of my life devoted to this case. It just seems to me that this young lady, this human being, this woman, Shannon Gilbert, deserves justice. That's what keeps Shannon's sister Cherie going, too. Do you think at some point you're
Starting point is 00:45:00 going to know what happened to your sister? I hope. I pray. But I don't know. It's the same feeling 14-year-old Lily Waterman is grappling with. She thinks about her mom, Megan, every day. If I could talk to her, I would just want to tell her that, like, I love her. I never got to really say those words and, like, know what love really was. Like, understand how much I really care about her.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I just want her to know, like, she has a special place in my heart. No one can ever replace her or come, like, above her. ever replace her or come above her. Maureen Brainerd Barnes was the first of the Gilgo Four to disappear. Maureen's friend, Sarah Carnes, can't believe they haven't found her killer in all these years. It's been 10 since they found her and they haven't found him.
Starting point is 00:46:04 And like, I don't want to wait for that phone call. Maureen's sister, Missy Kahn, will wait as long as it takes. Because this person, whoever killed my sister, thought that they were taking away my sister's voice. But he didn't know that my sister had a sister like me. So whether he's caught five months from now, ten years from now, I just hope he knows that I'll be sitting in that courtroom. And he didn't weaken me or my family he just strengthened me I'm Erin Moriarty, 48 hours, and this is my life of crime.
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