48 Hours - The Imposter

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

When Christian Gerhartsreiter moved to the U.S. from Germany, he pretended to be a bond trader, a TV producer, a baronet and even Clark Rockefeller, a member of the famous and wealthy Rockefeller family. In 2008, Gerhartstreiter, then claiming to be Clark Rockefeller, made headlines when he abducted his 7-year-old daughter. The Rockefeller family made it clear that he was not a part of their family. What he was, according to police, was a killer on the run. “48 Hours" correspondent Erin Moriarty reports. This classic "48 Hours" episode last aired on 3/22/2014. Watch all-new episodes of “48 Hours” on Saturdays, and stream on demand on Paramount+. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The man who called himself Clark Rockefeller has been charged with murder. You know, it hits the news that he's Christopher Cheechester of San Marino. Very prominent people were fooled by him. He's Christopher Crow of Greenwich, Connecticut. He could fool anyone. He was brilliant. He was diabolical. He's Clark Rockefeller of New York. To him, it was a game. And everybody's going, who the hell is this guy?

Because we always start. Start this way with an interview. Could you introduce yourself saying, I am? No, no, no, everybody knows who I am. Well, who are you? I don't think everybody does know who you are. No, no, no, no. Why is that so hard for you to say your name?

Because so many persons know me under different names, and I don't want to make anyone uncomfortable. When a Rockefeller appeared in my life and wanted to be my friend, it was, well, look at me now. You know, this isn't a story that makes me look that great. I'm Walter Kern. I was a friend of Clark Rockefeller's, or the guy who called himself Clark Rockefeller. An Amber Alert has been issued for a girl abducted in Boston. One day I turn on the news, there's Clark Rockefeller's picture.

There is still no sign of Clark Rockefeller and his seven-year-old daughter, Ray. Rockefeller abducted his daughter during a supervised visit in... And I thought, oh boy, he finally snapped. We do not know who this man is. He's not Clark Rockefeller. A few days later, the Rockefeller family came out and said, he's not one of us. no record of any Clark Rockefeller as a descendant of John D. Rockefeller. I was like, what? The mystery man who took on that very famous last name is now in police custody.

Tell me who you are. I'm sick of this bull-hack-of-hick. I've been dealing with this all week. Tell me who you are. Clark Rockefeller is. No, you told me you are not Clark Rockefeller. Clark Rockefeller doesn't exist. I don't think there is a real person under there. I don't think he even knows who he is. Who are you? Why? Can't tell you. Because you've done something that somebody is looking for you for, right?

Drip, drip, drip, the details came out as to who he really was. Los Angeles homicide detectives identify this man as Christian Gerhardt's writer from Bergen, Germany. When he was busted for kidnapping his daughter, that blew the lid off of a 30-year con. All these other identities come to life. It turns out he's wanted for questioning in this homicide case. John Soiss and his wife Linda very much. vanished in 1985, Linda was never seen again. Years later, the bones of John Soas were discovered in the backyard of the house where John and Linda had lived with a mysterious border named Christopher Cheechester, who later became Clark Rockefeller.

What should I call you? Gee, that's always a good question. I don't know, Aaron. What would you like to call me? I'd never been to a murder trial before. You know, imagine me. One of my best friends is the defendant at the first murder trial I get to go to. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Somebody who's fooled me for years. Exactly 28 years ago, Linda's family reported Lynn and John Missy.

I'm a journalist and a novelist, so you'd think that I was the kind of guy who would see through someone like him. The fact was I never did. He was very secretive. But now, witness after witness was coming up and giving evidence about what was really going on. And that the person I knew was actually hiding from a murder the whole time. And that a lot of what I thought were his eccentricities, his concerns about privacy, his concerns about security, all of these things suddenly took on a whole new meaning. America has long been the land of opportunity.

And in 1982, there were few places more inviting than Sam Marina. California, an opulent suburb of Los Angeles that felt like a small town. It was sort of an Andy Hardy existence. Like a wealthy Mayberry? Well, that could be. And the perfect setting for English royalty. You knew him by what name? Christopher Chichester, the 13th.

The 13th, what? The 13th, baronet of England. The 21-year-old baronet had a posh accent, an old world charm, and made sure that he was properly introduced. He was a church of our Savior a lot. Well, it's the oldest church in the area. And the most prestigious, the perfect place to charm his way into San Marino High Society. And he was passing out hymnals, going to the free lunches,

and joining the city club and meeting all the regulars. Vanity Fair reporter, 48-Hours consultant, and author of the man in the Rockefeller suit, Mark Seale. He was handing out business cards that said, 13th baronet of Cheechester, and it had the crest, and he would hand out a business card and kiss the lady's hands. And pretty soon he's a member of the community. So much so that he started making elaborate plans for the city.

None of it setting off any alarms among the trusting force. I remember Chris coming over and saying, I can get a chapel. We have a chapel in our property in Europe and I'll have it sent over. And did you believe them? The Church is your cathedral, no less. Right, but did you believe it at the time? And I thought, fabulous, that will look so perfect right here. Police say that you are a con artist, a con man.

What do you call yourself? Who did I con? If not a con artist, what would you call yourself? Steve Podrowski is an absolute literary. genius. He came up with the word confabulator. Confabulations, harmless inventions of fun that don't really hurt anyone. So you don't believe you hurt anyone? I don't think so. It was through friends at church that Chris Chichester reportedly met wealthy divorcee Rousseauas, better known as D.D. D.D. had a small guest house in the backyard of her San Marino home.

Legally, she wasn't allowed to rent it out, but the 65-year-old had been running out of money. So when she let Chichester move in, it had to be their secret. Something that suited her new tenant just fine. No one ever knew what house he lived in. He told me he was living on the second house from the corner, on Lorraine and West. He told me he lived on the corner. But all the while, he lived here. in this guest house, where authorities believe he turned from con man to killer.

John Soas, Dede's adopted son, and Linda, his soon-to-be bride, were low on money. They moved into Didi's house. Christopher Cheechester is living in the back in the guest house. John is a computer nerd, Star Trek fanatic. Linda's six feet tall, a strawberry blonde artist who loved horses, and painted fanciful unicorns. While the young conman was living in their backyard, John and Linda got married and made plants to move out on their own. For more than two years, Didi, John, Linda, and Chichester seemed to have coexisted without a peep. Did she ever express any concern about the tenant?

Nothing. Linda's best friend, Sue Kaufman. But your memory is that she thought he was creepy. Yeah, or just kind of like, just unsavory, like she didn't want anything to do with them. Tell me about John and Linda. How well did you know them? I didn't. I mean, I knew them, sort of, but not the way. Well, you were living in that guest house for almost two years while they were living with John's mother. Yeah, they didn't talk to me.

At all? Not really, no. It was early February 1985 when something very strange happened. John and Linda Soas disappeared. At first, no one was really worried. Just days before they vanished, Linda told several people that she and John were going off on a secret government mission to New York.

Did Linda tell you what government agency was hiring her husband? She just said, the government and it's top secret, and I can't tell you anymore. At any point, did Linda seem worried about this trip to New York? about this job that her husband was offered? Did she didn't say how he got offered the job? No, that's what's, you know, in hindsight, it's like, why didn't I ask more questions? But I didn't know she was going to disappear.

The real story wouldn't come out until 28 years later when the state of California put Chris Chichester, also known as Clark Rockefeller, on trial for the murder of John Soas. The prosecutor believes he also killed, John's wife, Linda. Ladies and gentlemen, the evidence will show you that John and Linda Sohu's are dead. I don't think it was murder he was interested in. It was getting away with murder. You know, he was a fan of Hitchcock in film noir.

He was steeped in the literature and the cinema of murder. The power to kill can be just as satisfying as the power to create. And a lot of these movies he saw have a plot in which somebody who thinks they're very smart commits the perfect crime. And it makes fools of everybody else because they get to go forth with a secret that no one else will know. Aaron, don't put any words in my mouth.

And efforts to get to that secret are met with resistance. Judy, Judy, we got to stop this. Whenever I got a little too close, he tried to get 48 hours producer Judy Ryback to stop me. You know, you got to stop that, Aaron. It's too adversarial, Aaron. Judy, let's discuss that.

and even tried to walk out. Unfortunately, Aaron, we gotta stop it. It's not going the way I had hoped. But I kept him in his chair long enough to ask, did you kill John Soaz? Who's Christopher Crow? That's a name I used to go by. Is that the real you?

I don't know. I don't think so. You don't think so, yes or no? No, that's a name I used to go by. Sometime in May 1985, four months after Linda and John Soas vanished from San Marino. Christopher Chichester did the same. About a month after that,

3,000 miles away in Greenwich, Connecticut, Christopher Crowe appeared, once again in church. He gravitates to the most exclusive Episcopal Church there, Christ Church, and he's passing out hymnals and meeting the locals. Author Mark Seale. He was very smart to launch his lives, at churches because, you know, people at churches tend to believe.

He meets the minister's son. Chris Bishop is an aspiring filmmaker, and they became friends. 27 years later at the trial, Chris Bishop took the stand to describe the man he knew as Chris Crow. What projects was he working on when you met him? According to Chris, he was the executive producer

of the new Alfred Hitchcock Presents series. In the 1980s, the classic series from the 50s was remade. And sure enough, there was a Christopher Crow in the credits. Of course, it wasn't this Chris Crow, but no one seemed to question the 24-year-old story. He had studied up on whatever he was trying to do, enough to get away with it. Nor did anyone question him when two years later, the television producer evolved into a bond trader on Wall Street. In New York City, he met a man who worked for NICO securities,

and he was actually hired to lead an entire department of corporate bond salesman. Didn't you have to lie to get that job? Not necessarily. He was hired, you know, simply because of his name. Richard Barnett was hired to work under Crow, who claimed to be royalty. He said his name was Christopher Crow, Mountbatten. Mountbatten is related to the queen. When did you start having questions about his abilities?

Actually, fairly soon. He didn't understand the basic elements of what a corporate bond was all about. You took a job with a securities company as the head of a corporate bond department with absolutely no experience. And produced a huge profit. The people who worked with you said, you didn't know what you were doing. Well, that's their opinion.

I nonetheless produced a huge profit. Never sold a bond. Never sold a bond. Never sold a bond. How unusual is that? Impossible. It took the better part of a year, but Crow was finally fired from Nico.

Meanwhile, back in California, D.D. Soas died heartbroken, believing her only son John had abandoned her. Shortly afterward, Chris Crow of Connecticut did something that would eventually put Chris Chichester of San Marino back on the radar in connection with the soist disappearance. When he said, hey, I've got this pickup truck. It was a production vehicle on a movie that I made.

I can't use it. I don't want it. Would you like it? Crow gave Chris Bishop a white 1985 Nissan pickup like this one. But when Bishop went to register it at the DMV, there was a problem. The truck belonged to the long-missing John and Linda Sowes. Police in San Marino wanted answers and asked the Greenwich Police for help. The San Marino Police Department was looking to find out if the new owner of this pickup truck

that was connected to this missing couple had information on where they might be because their case was still open. Lieutenant Dan Allen was a detective in Greenwich back in 1988. Within days, Alan discovered that Chris Crowe was also Chris Chichester and was no longer in Greenwich. He had moved to New York City. Crow had talked his way into another job at a large brokerage house and was living with a girlfriend, Mahoko Manabi, who hoped to marry him. When Detective Allen called the number he had for Crow, it was a woman. It was Minabhi who answered.

He said that he was a detective with the Greenwich Police. And that's what she said. He's not here. So you leave him a message, and she said she would. But over the next few days with his girlfriend's help, Crow kept dodging Alan. If you had nothing to do with the death of John Solace, why wouldn't you talk to Detective Allen? Because Detective Allen never contacted me. He contacted him. He contacted Mahoko.

He never gave her a reason for the contact that he. But you knew what they were there for. No. Oh, you had no idea. How would I know? But here's what Mahoko Manavi said at trial. He told me that next time he called, that, you know, he wasn't there and that I didn't know where he was. He had told her, I wasn't a police officer.

I wasn't an detective. I was a hitman. I helped to kill him. And she believed that? And she believed that. Now that Crow knew that the police were on to him, it was time once again to disappear, leaving Alan at a dead end.

Did you ever meet him face to face? No. Did you ever talk to him on the phone? No. Fairly soon after Detective Allen's call, we moved to another apartment. He grew a beard. I helped color his hair.

He never came out of the building at the same time. Always walked down different sides of the street. His idea was it to do all the other? It was his idea. Crowe laid low for about three years. And in that time, a Rockefeller was born. According to Mahoka and Manabi, they went out to a restaurant, and he couldn't get a reservation.

And so he just said, Rockefeller. My name's Clark Rockefeller. Suddenly a table appeared. The name worked its magic and would work its magic. magic from that point forward. He wrote me a letter from his jail cell that I got just recently in which he claimed that his entire career in America was based on a novel he read when he was 10 about somebody who came

up in society through fraudulence. I think that might have been the great Gatsby. I cannot find anyone who knows anything real about Mr. Gatsby. When you were growing up, did you get most of your ideas about America from watching movies and reading books? Books? I'm a big reader. You once mentioned The Great Gatsby? Yeah, that's one of them.

And of course, there was television. One program in particular... Gilli Gonzalez is one of my favorite television shows. Why? Because it's actually a religious show. And the characters represent the seven deadly sins. Gilligan is sloth. The skipper is anger.

The professor is pride. Marianne is envy and ginger is lust. The millionaire's wife is gluttony and the millionaire is greed. There's a story that you modeled your accent after Thurston Howell III. Thurston Howell III. Is that true? Perhaps unconsciously. Is that was your idea of what a blue-blooded American would sound like?

Perhaps unconsciously. This is my darling wife, Mrs. Thurston, Howled the Third? How do you do? We only saw the Clark that comes out on stage, but there was a lot of off-stage time when he was dressing the set, making the props, adjusting the costume. I think he loved that. Sometime in 1992, his riskiest, most outrageous identity was unveiled when the congregation at St. Thomas Church on New York Swanky Fifth Avenue met Clark Rockefeller. He would carry around a security device that he said was connected to the Rockefeller offices

because he was very paranoid about security and being kidnapped, which is pretty gutsy because that church has real Rockefeller's. It was through friends at church that Clark Rockefeller met a bright young Harvard Business School student named Sandra Boss, while playing a game that, coincidentally, involved fake identities and murder. Are you talking about the board game clue? The board game clue. Who did you go as?

I was Miss Scarlett. Okay. Was the defendant in character? Yes. Who was he? He was Professor Plum. Boss and Rockefeller quickly became an item and later moved in together. She says she simply accepted his odd and eccentric behavior. He refused to set foot on the soil of Connecticut because it was,

because it was an evil state, and that was where his parents had died. So even if we had to drive between Boston and New York, he would not actually allow stops in the state of Connecticut. What about his restroom? That was not done. One waited. While a Rockefeller courted his soon-to-be wife in New York, back in San Marino, the mystery of John Soas' disappearance was about to take a sharp turn.

The owners of Dee DeSoece's house at 1920 Lorraine decided to put in a swimming pool. And during the excavation of the pool, the bulldozer operator struck something hard. And it turned out to be human bones. The gravesite was directly behind the guest house where a young man named Chichester once lived. The body was found. It was inside of a fiberglass container. Los Angeles Sheriff's detective, Tim Miley. Inside the container, the arms, legs, and torsals were wrapped in saran wrap. Hands were covered in bags, and the hands feet and head were covered in plastic bags.

The remains were so decomposed that they couldn't be officially identified, and the coroner wouldn't rule it a homicide. Police could only speculate about how the body came to be buried in the backyard of the one-time Sohers' residence. The TV show Unsolved Mysteries, recreated the scene, and even posted a picture of Christopher Chichester, calling him a person of interest. But no one called him with a tip. And when they didn't get anything back from that, then the case just went cold again. But who was then the main person of interest at the time the body was found? They were looking at both Linda Soselis at the wife and Christian Garriswriters'Reyer. Christian Gerrits Schreider.

Gerhardt Schreider, who was now hiding out in plain sight as Clark Rockefeller, and telling everyone that he had just inherited what they would all come to believe was a multi-million dollar art collection. Writer Walter Kern remembers the first time he laid eyes on it. Standing unframed against the walls are what must have been 50, 60 million dollars worth of Mark Rothkows, Jackson Pogs, Abstract Expressionist Masterpieces. That artwork was one reason that Kern never doubted Rockefeller, until years later when the whole world would learn that the art was expertly forged.

You wouldn't guess that the man is fake, the art is fake, the name is fake, everything, you know. Shortly after the art appeared, Sandra Boss married her Rockefeller. You supported your family financially after you got married? I did. Who controlled the finances? The defendant. Kern met the couple in 1998 when the marriage was already in trouble. I remember sitting there thinking, this is a sad marriage.

They don't love each other. It didn't seem like a happy place. But they stayed together and even had a daughter. In 2001, Ray Storo Rockefeller was born. But five years later, Sandra Boss filed for divorce. And when things got contentious, her husband's con finally unraveled. I found out in August of 2007 that he was not Clark Rockfellow. She hires a detective, and he goes, we can find absolutely nothing on this individual.

We don't know who he is. It was like he had materialized out of thin air. He called me up around Christmas time and he said, I just lost my daughter in a divorce. Well, I don't think I'm ever going to be able to see her again. My wife's taking her to England. An Amber Alert has been issued for a girl abducted in Boston. Police say she may have been taken by her father. On July 27, 2008, FBI agent Tammy Hardy got a call from headquarters that a Rockefeller living in Boston

had kidnapped his seven-year-old daughter during a supervise. visitation. The social worker tried to prevent it when he was dragged by the vehicle and was injured during the course of the abduction. There is still no sign of Clark Rockefeller and his seven-year-old daughter, Ray. For six days, Rockefeller eluded even the FBI by changing his identity once again. He has set up an elaborate new identity in Baltimore as Chip Smith, the high-sea ship captain, who has a daughter named Muffy.

It was very apparent that this was a well-thought-out abduction, that he had planned this for a long time. It all happened so fast at Marlborough and Arlington Streets. But it all came to an end when a real estate agent in Baltimore saw the fake Rockefeller on the news. She realized he was a man she had just sold a house to. The FBI surrounded that house. And when they were certain the child was safe,

they arrested her father. without incident. The evidence will show that in his mind, the rules do not apply to him. At his kidnapping trial, the world met Christian Carl Gerhard Schreider, a German immigrant who had come to America as a young man and created a life that was complete fiction. Gerhardt Schreider was tried and convicted. We, the jury, say that the defendant is guilty of offense as charged. Although his defense team tried to argue that their client was delusional.

Defendant's delusions. And actually believed he was a Rockefeller. But that's not the man federal agent Tammy Hardy met the night he was arrested. Did it ever open up doors for you? Delapting me. You're kidding. Everywhere. He knew.

I'm not a Rockefeller. I'm not Christopher Crow. I'm not Count Mountbatten or whoever that was. That was amazing. It works like a trauma. Try it sometimes. I'm serious. No, it works like a trial.

Is he dangerous? Yes. I have no doubt that he killed John Sohus. I have no doubt that he killed Linda Sohus. In California, detectives Tim Miley and Dolores Scott were also convinced Gerhardt's writer killed Linda and John,

and we're working against the clock to prove it. before he could serve his time on the kidnapping charge and then disappear again. Do you have a dark curiosity? Heart Starts Pounding, Horrors, Hauntings, and Mysteries is a weekly podcast hosted by me, Kailen Moore. Each week, I'll take you on a dark journey through terrifying true urban legends,

bizarre true crime cases, chilling tales of backwoods horror and more. So if you're looking to join a passionate community of The Darkly Curious, check out Heart Starts Pounding on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. And remember, stay curious. Unmasked at last, Christian Gerhardt Schreider now has a new identity.

Inmate number 2800458. Which persona did you like the most? Who did you like being the most? Clark Rockefeller? Um, no, no, no, no. Let's not get into that again. Aaron, Aaron, Aaron. Well, because we're talking about how you would put on these personas

that it was fun. Let's go back to the trial testimony. That's where we're here. Gerhardt, Schroeder, aka Clark Rockefeller, was serving a four to five years sentence for kidnapping his daughter when he was suddenly on the move again, hauled from a Massachusetts prison to a California jail, where he would now face charges for the murder of John Soas.

L.A. County Sheriff's detectives, Tim Miley, and Dolores Scott, led the cold case investigation. Did you know what you were getting into when you first started this investigation? No, we had no idea how bad it was, how difficult it was going to get. It took four years, four years of our lives, right? The detectives had to determine exactly how John Soas died. The problem was, all they had to work with was the victim's skull,

and it was in pieces, and had to be reconstructed by a special lab in a hospital. Why? This is where the facial bones would be, but we'll never know. That's when forensic pathologist, Dr. Frank Sheridan, was finally able to determine how John Soas had died. He had been viciously bludgeoned. How do you know that?

How can you tell? Partly is based on looking at the edges of the fractures, the dark appearance. Dark edges, says Dr. Sheridan, mean the fractures occurred at the time of death, and not when the body was on earth. The decomposing scalp blood can sink down into the fracture lines. And that's one of the indicators that these fractures occurred shortly before death. How many times do you think John Sowes was hit here? In this area here, I believe, at least twice.

It takes a fair amount of force to cause this kind of injury. But now, how to prove the killer was Gerhardt. Soas was buried just feet from the guest house, where Garrett Shredder once lived, and his body wrapped in plastic bookstore bags traced to colleges that Gerhardt Shreder had attended. Yet no DNA, no fingerprints belonging to the defendant, were found.

But you have to understand that obviously the bags and the body have been underground for nine years, and dirt just decomposes everything. Right, but you've got a jury that might say, reasonable to help. All we can do is put on the best case we can. In an LA courtroom in March of 2013, Christian Gerhardt's rider went on trial for the murder of John Soas. We are on the record of the matter of the people versus Gerhardt's writer. Did you kill John

Sowers? No. Did you kill Linda Sautz? No, absolutely not. She's around somewhere. You believe she's still alive? Absolutely. Absolutely. Gerhardt's defense is that Linda Soas is the one who killed her husband and is alive in hiding from authorities. The proof, these postcards in Linda's handwriting that were sent to her family and friends from Europe after she disappeared. But to Walter Kern, this was classic Gerhardt Schroeder.

The postcards were such an ingenious move. You know what I mean? The common murderer doesn't try to cover a crime that way. Like a scene from a Hitchcock thriller, Kern says. The defendant carefully concocted the couple's disappearance. To me, one of the most convincing pieces of evidence was the stories they told about going off on a secret mission. Going off on a secret mission was a Clark idea. Now, obviously, that was to prepare people not to look for them, to prepare people for their absence.

But even after nearly three decades, Linda, nor her body, have been found. Isn't it possible that Linda's out there just under a different name, doing what Chris did? No, everything points to her being deceased. Detective Miley says that Linda couldn't have sent the postcards. DNA taken off the stamp doesn't match Linda's, but it also doesn't match the defendant. proves that he has the ability to have somebody send a postcard from Europe when he's not there. John Sowes' younger sister Ellen attended the trial every day and says there is no way that Linda would have killed her brother. Linda and John, if you could have seen them together, it would be very hard for you to believe that she would have done anything to hurt John.

Ellen says there's far more evidence that points to gear her to her to. All the things that I learned about how he changed identities, trying to sell my brother's truck, covering up all of these things. Gerhardt Schreider says Dee Dee gave him the truck. You don't believe that? No. She didn't touch the bedroom that they had slept in. All of his stuff and Linda's stuff was left untouched.

She wouldn't have done that and given the truck away. This truck was in my possession for three and a half years. and a half years, with its license plates attached, unaltered, unchanged, in excellent condition. Why would a person who is aware of criminal liability preserve evidence? Answer that. No way. No way. That's how Lieutenant Dan Allen of the Greenwich PD answered. It wasn't out in the open as far as I could determine. No one ever saw that white pickup truck. And how did he miss someone bear? burying the body right behind his house, when according to trial testimony,

it would have taken the killer several hours. If Linda, in fact, killed her husband, wouldn't you have seen her burying the body? Well, if you believe that I'm home every single second, that I never leave my house, that I never go out at all, that I don't go away on weekends. But wouldn't you notice the ground was dug up? It was not a very well-kept property.

Let's put it that way. All jurors may be dismissed at all recesses. All right, Mr. Baliff. As the case goes to the jury, Gerhardt Schreider is feeling confident. I believe it because I know for a fact that I did not do this. I know that for an absolute fact. Sitting in that courtroom, waves of anger would come over me. Every minute I was sitting there, I was going, please jury find him guilty.

He did it. He did it. As a PAC courtroom gathered to hear the verdict in the murder trial of Christian Gerhardt's writer, the man who once called himself Rockefeller looked confident, while the prosecutor, Habib Baylian, seemed nervous. He'd conned so many people for so many years. You always worry that, okay, this might be his one last con and he's going to escape justice. Walter Kern, who recently wrote Blood Will Out about his former friend, attended the trial

for the New Yorker magazine. I deferred to the old-time court reporters who were there around me. And I said, so what do you think is going to happen? They said, oh, he's going to get off. Why do you say that? Oh, the evidence is so circumstantial. One of the victims is missing. She might still be out there.

Maybe she did it. They can't establish a motive. These people had me convinced that, you know, this was going to be Clark's greatest magic trick. Ellen Sous and another brother Chris were just as worried. I was very worried that those key pieces would be enough to create doubt. Okay, is it correct, the jury is least a worded? Yes.

But in the end... We the jury in the above entitled action finding defendant, Christian, Gerhardt's writer, guilty of the crime of murder in the first degree of John Sohus. I started to cry because we finally finally... got justice. But it's a bitter sweet victory, because a painful question still remains. Where is Linda Søis?

Do you believe then that Christian Gerhard Schrester also killed Linda? Yes. Yeah, I believe she probably met a similar fate to my brother. Do you think we'll ever know what happened to Linda? Not unless he decides to confess. I was curious how the jury felt about Linda. Linda and had the opportunity to ask the foreperson.

Did you feel Linda had anything to do with it? I didn't. So did you believe at the end of the trial that if Christian Gerhardt-Schreter killed Johnny probably killed Linda too? Yes. Do you think we'll ever really know what happened to Linda Sos? I hope so. Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca.

Was justice done in this case? Yes and no. There's no real justice in a murder case. You'll never bring back a victim, but we're happy we solve this case. And the ingenuity of the homicide detectives and all their colleagues on the federal and local level are to be cheered for this. Your Honor, I can only say once again that I want to assert my innocence and that I firmly believe that the victim's wife killed the victim. That emptiness is evil. It's that lack of feeling, using everybody as a tool, everybody as a way to get your will,

is as close to a definition of evil, as monstrousness as I can come to. You really think he's a monster? I think he's a monster. I think he's a monster. The defendant shall receive the sentence for the crime of first-degree murder as dictated under the law, which is a sentence of 25 years to life. Yep. The day I spoke with Gerhardt's writer, he had just been sentenced. I can't speak for the jury's decision.

Half of them were probably too stupid to understand a reasonable doubt. The other half were probably too lazy to even think about what's been presented and just wanted to get out of here. This will be overturned. Make no mistakes about this. So it's just a minor inconvenience until then. That's all it is. Thank you.