48 Hours - The Killing of Theresa Fusco

Episode Date: April 27, 2026

Nearly 41 years after a New York teenager is killed, an unexpected breakthrough in the case. Erin Moriarty reports. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly Morrissey was a young girl who didn't like to stay home. She liked to hang out with her friends. June 12th, 1984, Kelly walks to a pay phone near a Shell gas station over on Merrick Road in Lindbrook and meets up with another one of her friends. And they make some phone calls after that payphone. We don't know where Kelly went. Knowing Kelly, there is no way I believe she ran away. in a way. No.

And then on November 10, 1984, just five months later, Yes. Teresa Fusco disappears. Yes. And what is the initial thought? The initial thought is there might be a connection. Teresa worked at Rollerink on Merrick Road in Lindbrook, Hot Skates. And for her to go to Hot Skates, she would have to walk in this direction down the street.

Did you ever worry about her walking? No. I never really worried about her walking anywhere in the neighborhood. That evening, she apparently got fired. She's upset, and then she leaves. Wasn't she supposed to go to Lisa Kaplan's house? Yeah, her best friend, yeah. She was going to come to my house after she got off of work and sleep over.

So it becomes like 9 o'clock. She's not there. Yep. 9.30, not there. 10 o'clock, I just thought maybe she went home. Well, the next morning her mother called and her mom asked my mom, can you please have Lisa send Teresa home? And my mom said, well, Teresa's not here.

Her mom called the police department. We went to all the places we would hang out, and she wasn't anywhere that we searched. It's just very coincidental. Same neighborhood, same time frame, two girls who knew each other. I'm like, something's not right. something's just not right. And then 25 days later, there's two boys coming back to hang out here in the woods.

They see a body, and they run to the deli and ask to call 911. Police show up, and they find Teresa Fusco. Teresa had been strangled, beaten, and raped. It truly was shattering at 16 to never have lost anybody that you loved in such a horrific way. You just can't get over that. But until there's a connection in the two cases,

one's still a missing girl, and now one's a homicide. John Coghaw was brought in by the detectives as a suspect in the murder of Teresa Fosco. And during that time, he confessed to the murder of Teresa. We decided that I had a kill her. And then during that confession, he implicated two of his buddies. And when I saw the three men who were arrested in handcuffs,

I thought to myself, who are these people? They're older. Who are they? The theory was always it was three guys. Yeah. And the DNA didn't match any of them. No, it didn't. If they didn't do it, then who did it?

Today we reigned 63-year-old Richard Bill O'Dow for the murder of Teresa Fusco. And I said, OK. here we go again. Erin Moriarty reports, the killing of Teresa Fusco. First, 15-year-old Kelly Morrissey vanished into the night. On June 12, 1984, she left her home after dinner and never came back. Five months later, it was her friend Teresa Fusco. On November 10, 1984, the 16-year-old left her job at Hot Skates,

a popular roller rink, never to be heard from again. 41 years ago, trying to find them was a different job. Police had to look for real footprints, not digital ones, and it was easy to vanish without a trace. Kelly Morrissey and Teresa Fusco were growing up in the suburbs of Long Island. Vicki Papagno lived around the corner from Kelly in Massapequa. in Massapequa. She actually was the first person I ever smoked a cigarette with,

was Kelly. I was from a divorced family. She was from a divorced family. We connected that way. She was like my sister I never had. When they were in junior high, Kelly's family moved about 10 miles away to Limbrook. By then, Kelly had made some new friends.

One of the first people that she met when she moved to Limbrook was Teresa Fusco. Kelly's mother, Iris, and her then-viance, Paul Umstead, watched the friendship develop. She was very good friends with Teresa, and so she made friends very easily. She met her friends at malls and in person. Kids roamed around freely. No one could keep tabs on each other 24-7. It was a different time, and Kelly Morrissey and Teresa Fuscoxie.

and Teresa Fusco were typical teens for 1984. Well, let's take them on a little stroll down memory lane. That was the year Ronald Reagan was president. Ghostbusters and Footloose were the breakout hits. Madonna was climbing the charts and fashion followed. It was the year Steve Jobs introduced something revolutionary. Hello, I imagine us. We didn't have.

have cell phone, social media. So we were pen pals. We would get our stationery, and we would just write back and forth. And that's how we communicated. When Vicky was visiting Kelly, she would sometimes hang out with Teresa, who also became her pen pal.

Postmarked 1982, from Limbrook, New York, from Teresa Fusco. And it says, Dear Vicky, Hi, what's up? Nothing much here. When are you going to visit Kelly again? When you do call me okay? How's all the boys there? Thank you. In Lendbrook, by far the best place to meet boys was at Hot Skates, as advertised here in 1984.

What are you doing tonight? Oh, we would go to Hot Skates Roller Rink. We would go there, roller skate around. How important was hot skates in your life? Oh, hot skates was a big deal to everybody that lived in the area, even outside of the area. We would just go there and hang out with our friends and listen to music. Lisa Kaplan, now Johnson, was Teresa Fusco's closest friend. We always, we'd try to dress very similar, we would buy the same clothing,

we would wear our makeup the same. Did you guys confide in each other? About everything. Literally everything? Literally everything. No one gave safety a second thought. You could walk absolutely anywhere and not be afraid of anything in the dark during the day alone with friends. And that explained why it was business as usual at the Morrissey House a couple miles away when 15-year-old Kelly walked out the front door alone after dinner.

She said she'd be back by 9.30. It was June 12, 1984. Iris didn't give it a second thought. She and Paul were raising eight children together. Somebody came in, I heard somebody in the kitchen, yelled down, I'm home, and okay. You could hear doors opening, closing kids coming in and out. And I took it, it was Kelly.

It wasn't until the next morning when she didn't come down and go to school, that I went down there and realized that her bed wasn't made. McCullors was still there and she hadn't come in. I mean, were you panicking at that point, Iris? Oh yeah, and then we called the police, but they told us that she wasn't missing 24 hours at that point and they really wouldn't take a report. And those days, they waited.

Nassau County Detective Freddie Goldman would review both Teresa and Kelly's cases some 25 years later. He's retired now, but he agreed to walk us the timeline and the evidence from back then. At the time of Kelly's disappearance, he says police found no reason to think there was a crime. It seemed like she was a runaway. There's tons of missing persons cases on a daily basis.

Is that how Kelly Morrissey's case was initially handled? Of course, yeah. At 15 years old, she wouldn't know how to do life unless somebody was there to help her. I don't foresee her ever just running away and not talking to anyone, not reaching out to anyone. So I knew it was serious from day one. Months went by with no sign of Kelly. That had to be so tough. Oh, it was.

I mean, everywhere I went, every child from the back looked like Kelly had stopped to look to see if it was Kelly. It was horrible. If Kelly had been written off as a runaway and not a priority, five months later, her case got a second look. It was November 10th. Teresa Fusco never showed up at Lisa's house for their sleepover. I thought maybe she went to somebody else's house, and so I called a few friends and said, you know, did Teresa come over? At that point, I still wasn't overly concerned. Teresa's parents were divorced.

The next morning, her father Thomas had a scheduled visit and arrived at his ex's house to pick up his daughter. How soon did you realize that this was a problem? I know my wife and I looked at each other and said, something's not right here. We realized this is out of norm. What do we do now? When did you become really concerned?

I became really concerns when, when she wasn't ready for school on Monday morning. We walked to school every morning. Why wasn't she there? Monday came and went. It would be almost a month before anyone knew what had happened to Teresa. This is my daughter Teresa. She was my precious little girl.

For Teresa Fusco's father Thomas and her brother John. We were happy. seemed as though the entire town of Limbrook was out looking for. How big was the search? Everyone and then so. Everybody. Everywhere. Nearly a month later, not far from hot skates and near the Long Island Railroad tracks,

Teresa's body was discovered, beaten, raped, and strangled, buried under a pile of leaves and wooden shipping pallets. Thomas and John are still haunted by where she was found. I walked over her twice. Yeah. I didn't know she was under the palate. We just walked over the pallet. And I'm glad I didn't find her.

That would have killed me. I never heard the word, homicide. So when two homicide detectives arrived at Lisa's house, she didn't yet understand what that meant. And they said, well, we think we found her. My heart started to race. I started to get her. excited thinking my god thank god they found her and then they told me that they found a body

at 16 it was life-shattering when her body was found it was a shock not just to the limber community but i think to all of nassau county and donnelly would grow up to be the nassau county district attorney but before that she had a childhood a lot like teresa fuscos Why used to hang out at hot skates when I was a kid. I was in college when it happened. It changed the way we saw the world back in the 80s. It changed all that. And not for the better.

These are news articles I collected throughout the years on this case. 41 years later, Thicky Pippagno keeps a sad scrapbook. It tells the story of losing her two friends, Teresa and Kelly. This one, which includes both of them, Limbrook girl missing second from the village. Kelly had been missing for nearly six months when Teresa was found.

It's just too coincidental to me. I feel like whoever committed Teresa could have something to do with Kelly. You have two girls who went missing and then one who was murdered. Yeah. I was afraid to be home alone at my time. It was frightening because we had no answers.

Investigators on Teresa's case had very little to go on. No footprints, no fingerprints, no murder weapon. Hair samples were taken from Teresa, also a sexual assault swab. But DNA testing had not advanced enough to find out who it belonged to. While looking for links between the two girls, they zero. in on John Coget, a 21-year-old landscaper who told detectives he had dated Kelly for about a week. I've heard the name John Cogart before. It was early right when she first started liking him or dating him.

Coget was asked about Kelly's disappearance. He also was asked about Teresa's killing and denied any knowledge of it. Coget agreed to come in and take a polygraph test. Four days later, he did, and police told him he failed it. Koget was interrogated through the night and into the next morning. After nearly 12 hours of questioning, his denials changed. Nassau County Detective Joseph Fulpe wrote down what he said, Coget told him that on the night Teresa went missing,

Koget was with John Restivo and Dennis Hullsted in John's van, when they saw Teresa walking away from hot skates. Dennis Hullstead was known to investigators back then, says Freddie Goldman. He had had some minor brushes with police. Dennis Haldstead had an apartment adjacent to the Shell gas station where Kelly was last seen at that payphone. We were told that Kelly hung out in that apartment frequently. She had the key to his apartment.

It sounds like Dennis Hullstead was viewed kind of as a bad influence on the younger kids in the area? It would seem, yeah. John Restivo was more of a clean slate. He was a working fellow. Although he was friends with them, he didn't have a background like them. He didn't hang out in Dennis' apartment or that we knew of. Police took Kogan to the district attorney's office, where he was videotaped.

I want to talk to you about the death of Theresa Fesco. He was interviewed. by Assistant District Attorney George Peck. He agreed to go on video. Camera rolling, Koget detailed what happened to Teresa once she got into the van that night. Kogat told investigators that Teresa was raped twice by Dennis Hullsted and John Restivo.

When she said she was going to tell somebody they couldn't let that happen. We decided that I had to kill her. And Dennis told that she had died. And what did John read of this too? John Coget describes how he killed Teresa. And then what happened after you got the road? I wrapped it around the neck twice,

and then I tightened it like this, and then her body went limp. John Coget would later recant everything he told police. But on that day, Goldman says, investigators were confident they had Teresa Fusco's killer in custody and had the evidence they needed to prove it. But later, on that very same day, another teenage girl went missing.

March 26, 1985, when 19-year-old Jackie Martarella didn't show up to start her shift at birth, Burger King. Her older brother Martin knew something was off. She's very prompt. She was very dependable. If I had not show up, we knew there was something wrong. Most nights, Jackie walked to work from the family home in Oceanside, a town a few miles away from Lendbrook.

How would she get there? If she's walking, what was the route she would take to go to Burger King? Pretty much straight down Long Beach Road. Did you ever worry about her walking to her? Not really, no. No. No. Jackie had recently graduated from high school. She was working part-time and taking accounting classes, saving money to buy a car. How would you describe your sister?

Describe her? She was very girly. Complete with posters of teen pop stars on her bedroom wall. I remember Leif Garrett, whoever he was. I remember Leif Garrett. There was posters of that. She was into dance. She liked doing that. She liked her clothes, very finicky with the clothes.

And now she was missing. So what did you and your father do? I think we called the police. And then they took notes. And then they started looking. And then those other two came up. And they were, you know, saying, look what's happening here. So it became, everybody became interested.

Nearly a month went by with no sign of Jackie. You know, all the worst thoughts go through your mind when something like that happens. And of course, what happened to happen? The worst of the worst. They found her body 26 days later. It wouldn't be a golf course. April 22nd, 1985. A man looking for golf balls in the high grass.

off the 17th hole, found a naked body. It was Jackie. She was murdered, obviously, and discarded. According to former Nassau County Detective Freddie Goldman, Jackie was left the same way Teresa Fusco had been, raped and strangled. Initially did investigators think, oh my God, these cases all have to be connected.

Yes and no. But with Cogart sitting there, it kind of, you know, It threw a monkey ranch and everything. John Coget, the man who had confessed to killing Teresa Fusco, was in police custody. How could he be the killer if we had him in custody the same day that she went missing? So obviously it wasn't him. Yeah, could it be a Holstead, Restivo, but no. Jackie's homicide was not going to be easy to solve.

Her body was so badly decomposed, no DNA swab could be taken. I'm sure it heightened the alertness and awareness of the community because now you know that there's somebody out there that's, you know, going after young girls. Kelly Morrissey was still missing. Police knew she had hung out at Dennis Hullstead's apartment. But there was nothing more to die Hullstead or Koget to her disappearance. Was there any evidence that indicated that they were involved in Kelly's disappearance? No, no.

Teresa Fusco's killing was the only case police could pin down. By June 1985, John Coget, John Restivo, and Dennis Hullstead had all been charged with her rape and murder, and all three pleaded not guilty. Coget went on trial first. Later, Haldstead and Restivo were tried together. I remember sitting in the witness bomb. testifying and the district attorney saying, please speak louder.

Lisa Johnson was just 18 and a star witness. And here I am, you know, sitting there very meek and timid and in a room full of strangers testifying about my friend who was killed. It was difficult. It still is difficult. John Coget offered an alibi. And according to a New Yorker magazine investigation, the van police said was used in Teresa's abduction was actually out of commission and up on cinder blocks the day Teresa went missing.

But two hairs belonging to Teresa that police say they recovered from the floor of Restivo's van were too powerful to ignore. And Koget's detailed confession trumped everything. By February of 1987, Kogat, Halstead, and Restivo had been convicted of the rape and murder of Teresa Fusco and sentenced to more than 30 years to life. It had by then been two long years for Teresa's dad. He and the rest of her family tried to move on. We thought, believing me, that there was time for closure. We had gone to parents of murdered children. We had support and they were looking for support and we were looking for support in closer.

But there was no closure. What prosecutors had insisted was an airtight case against the three men was going to blow up spectacularly. In 2003, nearly 19 years after Teresa was killed, more sophisticated DNA testing became available. It told a different story. John Koget, John Restivo, and Dennis Hullsstead's convictions were all overturned. Just six hours ago, after 17 years in prison, the murder rape convictions of three Long Island men were overturned following stunning new DNA evidence. And new testing not only ruled out Kogat, Halstead and Restivo. It pointed to someone else entirely, another unknown male.

Everything Teresa Fusco's family and friends thought they knew about her killing and her killer was changing. Wait a second. There was investigations. We trusted the detectives. We trusted the police to do the right thing. How could they do this to us? Hi, my name is Lloyd Lockridge, and I'm the host of a new podcast from Odyssey called Family Lore. In this podcast, I'm going to have people on to tell unusual.

and sometimes far-fetched stories about their families. I've heard my whole life that she ended up the margarita. And then we're going to investigate those stories and find out how much of it is true. He gets a patent one month before the Wright brothers. Oh my God. Please follow and listen to Family Lore, an Odyssey podcast, available now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your shows. After almost 18 years, John Coget, John Restivo, and Dennis Halstead were out of prison.

in the arms of their families. I waited for this for 18 years, and I'm just, I'm sorry, I'm just really, I just can't believe it's happening. But their legal problems were not over. Nassau County District Attorney Dennis Dillon had decided to retry all three for the murder of Teresa Fusco, starting with John Kogat, who again pleaded not guilty.

There was still his videotapeat confession and that became the centerpiece of the case against Kogat at his second trial in September 2005. He decided that I had a kill. The confession, the prosecution argued, was more important than all other evidence, even the new DNA. When I saw the video, I go, whoa, it looks like it's legit. But Kogat's defense attorney, Paul Castelliero, says, the video

is misleading. As damaging as Kogat's statement sound, he says it's what you don't see on camera that matters. Part of it is, you know, it's staged. There is a detective. Sitting off camera watching it and monitoring it and making sure it goes right. It's like a play. Here, Koget struggles with names. Teresa Fesco. Even his alleged a car. accomplice's name. John Estevo, Dennis Shapiro. And then asked for help. What's his ass name?

Well, are you talking to Detective Volpe who's also in the room? That kind of shows it was coerced. Kogat was an easy target, Castelliero says. He had a 10th grade education and a substance abuse problem that Castelliero says police took advantage of. tells him about his drinking, his drugs, all the stuff that they can use against them. And then Castellero says they lied to him. The police told John Coget that he failed a polygraph. No, John Coget passed this polygraph test with flying colors.

And even though Coget had already told police over and over that he had nothing to do with Teresa Fusco's killing, Castellero says they convinced him He did. They told him he blacked out. He didn't remember. You know, this is what you did. This is where you took her.

I didn't even remember the next moment. Didn't remember what? What happened next morning? Well, you remember it now, don't you? Yeah. By the time this video was recorded, Kogat had been in custody for 18 hours, interrogated for nearly 12 of them, and awake for almost 30. At some point in time, you know, you want out, you give in.

But the confession wasn't the only thing prosecutors would have to defend. They had to contend with the new DNA evidence pointing to an unknown male. So prosecutors suggested that Teresa must have been with someone else right before she was abducted by Kogat, Paltzad, and Restivo. Then all of a sudden she had a consensual sexual encounter. That's what they said. But investigators were never able to identify anyone who had been sexually involved with Teresa. And Teresa's best friend, Lisa, had to take the stand again at this trial to talk about it.

And I mean, this is a tough question to ask, and I want to ask it properly. But as far as you know, was Teresa even sexually active? Absolutely not. And we spoke about that. And that's not something that she was going. to do before she was married. Lisa, once their star witness, was this time around,

undercutting their case. They went against their own witnesses, and in fact, argued that she went from being a virgin to being someone who had a quickie in a skating rink where she worked. It was preposterous. It was demeaning. Did that make you mad?

It did, because it's not something she would have done, ever. And I will go to my grave. saying that Teresa was not having sex with anybody. Prosecutors did still have the physical evidence from the first trial. The two hairs belonging to Teresa that police said they found on the floor of John Restivo's van. But that, too, Castelliero argued, was tainted. There was a science to analyzing whether the hares came from someone dead or alive.

They displayed a certain decomposition that is only present when the hairs are attached to the head of a person who's deceased. That meant the hairs could not have been left in the van while Teresa was still alive, according to Castellero. We believe that they went in and took them from the medical examiner's office and said they found him in the van. In other words, they were planted. But in closing, prosecutors denied the hairs were planted. After Castelliero was able to raise serious questions about the prosecution's case, Kogat's fate was in the hands of one person, a single judge, not a jury. Kogat had decided to take his chance with a bench trial.

And after nearly three months of testimony, the judge reached a verdict. This is Judge Orch's decision. The court will not accept the confession and accordingly finds the defendant not guilty of murder in the second degree under count one. And what does that mean when the judge won't accept the confession? He means that the confession is false. It is not credible.

And that's what the judge found. He did not believe the confession. Eight days later, the prosecution formally dismissed the charges against Restivo and Halstead. When John Cogart was acquitted, I was devastated, only because I've seen that confession of his over and over again, and I believe then that he was telling the truth. It makes you feel like you got hit in the face with a friggin' shovel, and you don't know how to bounce back from that. It was December of 2005. Teresa Fusco had been dead for more than 20 years, and now nothing about her case could be

be laid to rest. It's for me as the father, haunting, haunting to go through it over again. I felt as if the life had been sucked out of me. Everything that we fought for, everything that we testified for, everything that was investigated, and all of the proof and all of the evidence meant nothing. If they didn't do it, then who did it? Good morning. I'd like to thank my investigators and my prosecutors handling this case for standing here with me today.

On October 15, 2025, Anne Donnelly, now the Nassau County District Attorney had a startling announcement. And after two decades of this case running cold, we have indicted Teresa's killer. The FBI using the new science of genetic genealogy had found a map. to the unknown DNA. Today we reigned 63-year-old Richard Bill Odo of Center Moritz's for the murder of Teresa Fusco. Nearly 41 years later, and thanks to genetic genealogy, Nassau County DA and Donnelly, was sure they had finally, finally, found Teresa Fusco's killer. His life was violently stolen from harm more than 40 years ago. But the past is never forgotten.

Once the unidentified DNA sample was matched to 63-year-old Richard Biladu, surveillance began. A few months later, prosecutors say, a straw in a discarded smoothie cup confirmed he was their man. Villadu has denied the charges. At the time of his arrest, he was working at Walmart stocking shelves. At the time of Teresa's killing, he was 23 and living close by. He was living with his grandparents. It's about one mile away from hot skates. It's about one mile away from the Fusco residence.

He was a man who had seemingly always lived below the radar. Prosecutor Jared Rosenblatt. Had he ever been married? No. Does he have family or close friends? He has a brother. That he's close to? I can't speak about how close they are.

And does he have hobbies? Does this guy do anything other than go to work? I think he gambles on sports a lot. In interviews we conducted with Teresa's friends and family, no one recognized this defendant as someone who was ever associated with Teresa with Teresa in 1984. Authorities wouldn't speculate about how Richard Billadou may have come in contact with Teresa Fusco.

But D.A. Ann Donnelly says she knows he did. When you have a DNA match, 100% match, we got the guy. William Kephart and Daniel Russo, Biladu's defense attorneys, see it differently. What evidence are you aware of that connects? Richard Biladou to the murder of Teresa Fusco. The DNA. That's it. That's it.

And they don't find it convincing. It's being overstated and overvalued. And what's more? This district attorney's office, this police department in 1985, stood before a court and said these three men did this, and they had an ample amount of evidence to prove it. Was that a concern that they're going to point to the fact that three men went on trial were convicted for this crime.

Yes, I would assume that's what they're going to say. But the difference now is we have science behind us, which they didn't have 40 years ago. And to me, you don't beat the scientific evidence. But at John Kogat's retrial in 2005, the Nassau County DA's office had argued the opposite, that the unidentified DNA taken from Teresa was meaningless. The same DA's office stood up and said, we still believe, based on all of this evidence, that these men are responsible for Ms. Fosco's desk.

So I don't know how now in 2025, because you were able to put a name to that DNA, suddenly none of that matters anymore. All of their lies against John Cogart, John Restivo, and Dennis Allstate, are going to come back and haunt them during this retrial. Paul Castelliero, John Coget's former defense attorney, fears that Bill Adieu's lawyers will put the blame on the three men

who were cleared of the murder two decades ago. They're going to have a trial in which I'm sure the defense is going to be arguing. They're guilty. And Castellero says that's just more salt in the wound for John Coget, Dennis Hullsstead, and John Restivo. It's never ending. What Nassau County did to them is just has no ending to it. All three men sued Nassau County. Two of them were awarded damages. $18 million each to Restivo and co-defendant Dennis Halstead both exonerated a decade ago for the 1984 murder and rape of Lindbrook teenager Teresa Fusco.

But in Koget's case, a jury found no wrongdoing by Nassau County police. and gave him nothing. Let me ask you, though, if in fact Richard Bilodeau is convicted, will either one of you apologize to the three guys who were convicted? No, because I don't owe them in a biology. I wasn't even in the office at the time.

I know. I wasn't a lawyer. I represent the office, yeah, but for the Nassau County DA's office. Mr. Dillon did what he thought was right when he dismissed against two of them, and I think, you know, they got their apology at that point. The idea that the district attorney in Nassau County can apologize to these three guys for what they did to them is outrageous. While the Nassau County authorities say once again they have the killer of Teresa Fusco,

Richard Billadou is not facing charges in either Kelly Morrissey's or Jackie Martarella's cases. Both remain unsolved, leaving two families in limbo. I mean, you're anticipating something and that it never shows up. She didn't have a bad bone in her body. She missed out on just living a simple life, you know. You know, I look at women in their 50s now and think that could be Kelly. I mean, that's how old she would be. When Richard Billadieu goes on trial for the murder of Teresa Fusco, her father, Thomas,

and her once best friend Lisa will be back in the courtroom for what they hope will be the last time. Cloosures to me is that if this is the individual, then justice will be done. It's just completely over.

41 years is over. Beginning and end. Do you hope, do you think, that it might finally be resolved this time around, or do you still have questions? I trust in the DNA, this time. I am so hopeful that there will be a conviction and we can finally put this to rest.

41 years afterwards. It's a long time. It's a lifetime. When beloved family patriarch, Gary Ferris went missing, his family looked everywhere on their property until they came across something horrifying. It's a homicide. Absolutely. The blame game in this family went round and round. This is Blood is Thicker, the Ferris Wheel. I don't see how anyone can look at this story and think they were happy. Binge the full series, Blood is Thicker, The Ferris Wheel, on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts.