A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs - Episode 12: “Lawdy Miss Clawdy” by Lloyd Price

Episode Date: December 23, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A History of Rock Music in 500 songs by Andrew Hake. Episode 12, Lordy Miss Clody by Lloyd Price. This is a rather special episode in some ways. The topic of this episode is Lordy Miss Clody by Lloyd Price, and I'll be frank. I was not originally going to give Lordy Miss Clordy its own episode. Not because it's not a great record, it is, but because I was going to deal with it in passing when I cover one of the other records made by its vocalist, Lloyd Price.
Starting point is 00:00:48 But that was before I noticed an odd coincidence of timing. I needed to pre-record this episode, because it's Christmas, and I'm visiting my in-laws, and so I was looking at what records came next in the history on my timeline, and I noticed two things. The first was that Lordy Miss Claudey was the next important record to be released in the timeline I put together, and the second was that Dave Bartholomew,
Starting point is 00:01:21 that record's producer, was born, 100 years ago exactly, on December. the 24th, 1918. I simply couldn't pass up an opportunity to do an episode celebrating the 100th birthday of one of the great pioneers of rock and roll music, and one who is happily still alive. We talked about Bartholomew a bit a couple of weeks ago in the episode about the Fat Man by Fat's Domino, but he needs to be discussed in more detail, as he was one of the most important musicians of the 50s. As we heard, he brought the Spanish tinge to rhythm and blues records
Starting point is 00:02:07 and collaborated with Fats Domino on all of Domino's big hits, and we'll be hearing more about him in that context in a few weeks, but he did a lot more. Not only did he produce classic records by Frankie Ford and T-Bone Walker, Not only did he write one night, which became a big hit for Smiley Lewis and a bigger one for Elvis, but he also wrote Chuck Berry's only number one hit. Once I was swimming Cross Turtle Creek
Starting point is 00:02:40 Man them snappers all around my feet Sure was hard swimming Cross that thing With both hands holding my My face Okay That may not be Berry's Finest moment as a performer
Starting point is 00:03:13 But it shows just how wide Bartholomew's influence was Despite that Rather astonishingly, There's never been a biography written of Bartholomew. And even honkers and shouters, the classic book on the history of rhythm and blues, which contains almost the only in-depth interviews
Starting point is 00:03:33 with many of the musicians and record producers who made this music, only devote a handful of paragraphs to Bartholomew's work. I've barely been able to find any in-depth interviews with Bartholomew, and so my knowledge of him is built up. from lots of offhand mentions and casual connections in books on other people. But he worked with so many other people that that still amounts to quite a lot. So let's talk about Lordy Miss Cloddy, and let's do it by picking up the story of Dave Bartholomew and Fat Stomano, after The Fat Man.
Starting point is 00:04:14 The Fat Man was a massive hit, but it caused some strain between its producer and its performer. Domino had gone on tour to support the record as part of a larger package, with Bartholomew's band as the headliners. Domino would only perform a few songs at a time, and most of the show was Bartholomew's band. Domino resented Bartholomew for getting most of the money, while Bartholomew resented Domino for his popularity. Domino was starting to overshadow the nominal star of the show. But more than that, Domino just didn't seem to be getting on well
Starting point is 00:04:58 with the rest of the band. This wasn't because he was unfriendly. Although Domino was always someone who seemed a little socially awkward, just that Domino was a homebody who absolutely resented ever having to go away from home, and especially as he had
Starting point is 00:05:18 a newborn baby son he wanted. to be home for. Indeed, when the tour had started, Domino had missed the first few days by the simple expedient of hiding for several days, and it was only when a union official had come knocking at his door, explaining what happened to people who broke their contracts, that he relented and went on the tour. And even then, he packed a suitcase full of foods like pickled pigs' feet in case he couldn't get his favourite foods anywhere else. Domino was a sheltered, nervous, shy person. Someone who had been so unworldly that when his first record came out,
Starting point is 00:06:03 he didn't have a record player to play it on and had to listen to it in jute boxes. And this exasperated Bartholomew, who was a far more well-travelled and socially aware person, but the two of them still continued to collaborate and to make records together, including some great ones, like this version of the traditional New Orleans song, A La Ba, which Bartholomew rewrote with the great Boogie pianist Professor Longhair, and titled, Hey, Lababugi. The collaborations caused other problems, too. Both Bartholomew and Domino thought, with good reason, of themselves as the true talent in their collaborations.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Domino believed that his piano playing and singing were the important things on the records, and that since he was bringing in most of the ideas fully formed, Bartholomew wasn't doing much to make the record successful. Bartholomew, on the other hand, thought that the song ideas Domino was presented, bringing in, were basically nursery rhymes, while his own songs were more sophisticated. Domino had little formal musical knowledge, and usually used only a couple of chords, while Bartholomew was far more musically knowledgeable, and Domino wasn't a native English speaker, and tended to use very simple lyrics, while when Bartholomew brought in ideas,
Starting point is 00:08:08 he would come up with strong narratives and punning lyrics. Bartholomew thought that when the songs Domino brought in became successful, it was because of Bartholomew's patching up of them and his arrangements. Bartholomew resented that Domino was becoming a big star, and Domino resented that Bartholomew patronised him in the studio, treating him as an employee, not an equal partner. Of course, both were right. Bartholomew was by far the better songwriter,
Starting point is 00:08:43 but Domino had great instincts for a hook. Bartholomew was a great arranger, and Domino was a great performer. As so often in musical collaborations, the sum was much greater than its part, and it was the tension between the two of them that drove the collaboration. But while Bartholomew had problems with facts,
Starting point is 00:09:06 his real problems were with Al Young. a white New Orleans record store owner who was an associate of Lou Chud, Imperial Records owner. He didn't like Jung's habit of trying to make it look like it was him, rather than Bartholomew, who was producing the records. And he especially didn't like, when Jung caught himself in on the songwriting royalties for songs Bartholomew wrote.
Starting point is 00:09:34 The problem came to a head when Bartholomew got back home from a particularly stressful tour with Domino over Thanksgiving. It had been far too cold for the Louisiana musicians in the Midwest, and they'd been ripped off by the tour promoters. They'd received only something like $200 between them, rather than the 2000 they'd been promised. Domino actually had to call home and ask his family to wire him, his bus fare, back from Missouri to New Jersey to New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Orleans. And when Bartholomew got back, he popped into Al Young's record shop, and Young showed him the $1,500 Christmas bonus check he'd just received from Imperial Records for all his hard work that year. Bartholomew had received no bonus, despite having done far more for the company than Young had, and he assumed that the reason was because Bartholomew was black and Young was white. He decided, right then, to quit Imperial and to become a freelancer, working for whoever had work.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Domino continued making records in the same style and even continued to have hits with songs that followed the formula he'd established with Bartholomew, some of them, even bigger than the ones they'd made together, like going home. But Al Young was the producer,
Starting point is 00:11:07 on that record, and while Domino did his usual great performance, and it had that treheur rhythm, Jung knew nothing about music, and so the arrangement was haphazard, and the sax solo was off-key at points. But it was still a big hit, and Al Young got his name stuck on the credits as a co-writer, which is what mattered to him at least, even if everyone was unhappy with the recordings. That song went to number one on the R&B charts and made its way into the top 30 on the pop charts, and you can hear its influence all over the place. For example, in this other classic track. It's also influenced a young piano player and arranger named Ray Charles,
Starting point is 00:13:00 and we'll talk more about him later. But the fact remains, it's not as good as the stuff Domino was doing with Bartholomew. It has the power and the catchiness, but it doesn't have the depth and the sophistication. Lou Chud, around this time, tried to get Art Young to get Dave Bartholomew back, working with Domino again, but Bartholomew just slammed the phone down on Young. He didn't need Imperial Records, he didn't need Fats Domino, and he certainly didn't need Art Young. He was working with other people now. In particular, he was working with specialty records.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Specialty Records was an LA-based record label, like most of the labels that worked with New Orleans musicians were. For whatever reason, even though L.A. in New Orleans are thousands of miles away from each other, it was the Los Angeles companies, rather than anywhere closer, that seemed to pick up on the sound coming from New Orleans. Specialty was run by Art Roup. Art Roup is amazingly, still alive, and even older than Dave Bartholomew. He turned 101 a few months back, and he's one of the most important figures in the development of rhythm and blues in the 1950s. Indeed, he was the producer of yet another record
Starting point is 00:14:42 occasionally labelled the first rock and roll record. RM's Blues by Roy Milton, which was one of the early records to combine a boogie piano and a backbeat. In his case, it's no coincidence that he ended up working with New Orleans musicians. He was impressed by Fat Domino's Imperial Records releases, Imperial being another Los Angeles bass label,
Starting point is 00:15:47 and so he came to New Orleans to see if there were other people like Domino about. Rup put out a lot. an ad for people to come to Cosimo Matas's studio to audition, but it wasn't until he was packing up to leave and fly back to Los Angeles without any success that a singer, called Lloyd Price, walked into the studio and sang his song, Lordy Miss Cloddy.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Roop cancelled his flight. This was someone worth recording. Price was, at the time, a jingle creator for a local radio station, providing music for the DJs to use while they were advertising various products. At the time, radio advertising in the US
Starting point is 00:16:37 was much like podcast advertising is now, and in the same way that a podcast host might interrupt what they're doing and try to tell you about the benefits of a new mattress, so then might DJs. And in the same way, that some people, podcast hosts will vary their set texts, so would the DJs, and one of the DJs, for whom Lloyd Price
Starting point is 00:17:04 created jingles, had a catchphrase. Lordy Miss Cloddy, Price had come up with a melody to go along with those words, or rather he'd adapted a pre-existing melody to them, and the result had been popular enough that he decided to turn it into a full song. And Price had sat in with Dave Bartholomew and his band, in Kenner, his hometown, singing a few songs with them. Bartholomew had told him, I'm not working with Lou Chud anymore, I'm just hanging around Cosimo Matas's studio, catching the odd bit of arrangement work there. Why don't you come down and see if we can get you recorded? but Price was so unfamiliar with New Orleans that he didn't even know how to get to Rampart Street,
Starting point is 00:17:59 which is why he'd arrived so late. Luckily, for everyone concerned, he managed to find the most famous street in New Orleans eventually. When they started recording the song, Bartholomew started to get annoyed with the guitarist on the session. Ernest MacLean, quote, I wanted to get some sort of a rhythm going, and he, Dum-de-Dum-de-Dum, I say, man, that, that's, that ain't nothing.
Starting point is 00:18:28 What the hell you get that thing from? That from one of the few interviews I've seen with Bartholomew. Other sources say it was his piano player, Salvador Duchette, who was the problem. Whichever musician it was, was apparently a jazz musician, who had no real love or feel for rhythm and blues, and Bartholomew was getting exasperated. But at the same time, he had no option but to go with what he had. But then fate intervened.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Fat Domino happened to be passing the studio, and he decided to just call in and say hello, since it was the studio he recorded in regularly. And he found Dave Bartholomew. there. Domino and Bartholomew hadn't worked together in over a year at this point, March 1952, and things were tense at first. But Bartholomew decided he'd be the one to ease the tension, and he asked Domino to sit in. At first, Domino refused, saying, Man, you know I can't sit in, I'm under contract. But he sat around in the session, having a few
Starting point is 00:19:45 drinks and watching the band work. Eventually, he said, well, I'm going to have me some fun, I'm going to sit in anyway. The resulting record was the one that knocked going home off the top of the R&B charts, and it would become one of the defining records of the rock and roll era. Lordy Miss Cloddy is, in many ways, an attempt to recapture the success of the Fat Man. It has many of the same musicians, the same arranger, and the same basic melody that the earlier record did. But being recorded three years later on meant it was also recorded after three years more advancement in the rock and roll style, and Lordy Miss Claude is notably more rhythmically complex than the earlier record, and that's largely down to Dave Bartholomew's arrangement.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Let's have a look at the individual elements of the track, starting with Fats Domino's piano playing. Domino is mostly playing triplets, which is the way that he played most of the time. You've got the drums by the great Earl Palmer, where he's making the transition between his early shuffle style and his later backbeat emphasis. You can hear he's trying to do two things at once on the drums,
Starting point is 00:21:51 He's trying to swing it and produce a backbeat, so you've essentially got him doing polyrhythms. You've got the bass a different rhythm again, and then you've got those horns, just doing long, sustained parts. And then over that, you've got Lloyd Price, singing in a Roy Brown imitation, but with a teenager's style,
Starting point is 00:22:15 Price had just turned 19. It's a song about unrequited love, or Lust, a teenager's song of yearning. And then to top it off, there's the sax solo by Herb Hardesty, the prototype for the solos he would provide for all Domino's hits from this point on. It's an amazing combination. This is the record that crystallized the New Orleans sound and became the template all the others would follow.
Starting point is 00:22:46 The Fat Man had been the prototype, with some rough edges still there. This was a slicker, more a short version of the same thing. Art Rup was certainly pleased, but they were lucky to have been working with Rube himself. Soon after this recording, Rup decided to expand his operations in New Orleans and put Johnny Vincent in charge. While Rup has a reputation as a decent businessman by 1950s record company standards, Johnny Vincent does not. When Vincent later owned his own record company, Ace, he was so bad at paying the musicians
Starting point is 00:23:32 that Huey Piano Smith and Mac Rebenack had to go and hold Vincent at gunpoint while they searched his office and his person for the money he owed them. And then, a few months later, they had to do the same thing again. because being held up at gunpoint just the once wasn't enough for him to think better of ripping them off. Vincent was also not a particularly skilled record producer, at least according to Rebenak.
Starting point is 00:24:06 I can't repeat his comments about Vincent's approach in full, because if I use some of the words he used, iTunes will restrict this podcast to adults only. But the gist is that Vincent was a conman who knew nothing about. record production. It's probably not a massive coincidence that Dave Bartholomew stopped working for specialty very shortly after the recording of Lordy Miss Cloddy. I've not seen a precise enough timeline to know for sure that it was Johnny Vincent's arrival at the label that persuaded Bartholomew he didn't want to work for them anymore. But it seems likely to me. What I do know though is that
Starting point is 00:24:51 that Lou Chud heard Lordy Miss Clody, compared it to the records Art Young was producing for Fat Domino and realised that he could be doing a hell of a lot better than he was. He eventually, through an intermediary, managed to persuade Bartholomew to talk to him again, and Bartholomew was hired back to work at Imperial.
Starting point is 00:25:15 The same month, April 1952, that Lordy Miss Clody came out, Domino and Bartholomew were back in Matas's studio, working together again, and recording a collaboration which sounds like a true combination of both men's styles. I woke up this morning, feeling low, where my loved one used to live, she ain't there no more. Poor me, why such bad luck for on me. I'm living in
Starting point is 00:25:57 memory What I'm going to do Domino and Bartholomew would work together regularly in the studio until at least 1967 and live off and on
Starting point is 00:26:16 for decades after that and we'll hear more of their collaborations later but Lloyd Price wasn't hampered by the fact that his producer had gone off to another label either. His follow-up single, cut at the same session as Lordy Miss Cloddy with the same musicians, was a double-sided hit, both sides making the top ten on the
Starting point is 00:26:41 R&B charts. And the same happened with the single after that, cut with different musicians, a song called Ain't It a Shame, which may just have given Domino and Bartholomew an idea. After that, he hit a bit of a dry spell in his career and by 1956 he was reduced to recording a sequel to Lordy Miss Clodie forgive me, Cloddy But then, Lordy Miss Clodie itself got a second wind and was covered in 1956 by both Elvis and... little Richard. This seems to have jump-started Price's career, and we'll pick up his story
Starting point is 00:27:57 with his later big hits. Lordy Miss Claudie had a long life. It's been recorded over the years by everyone from Paul McCartney to the replacements. And happily, most of the major figures involved in the record did too, which makes a very pleasant change for the bit of the episode where I usually tell you that the singer died in poverty and obscurity of alcoholism. Lloyd Price is still going strong, still performing aged 85,
Starting point is 00:28:32 and he released his most recent album in 2016. Art Rup is still alive, aged 101. And while I'm sad to say Fat Domeno is now dead, he died only last year, aged 89. an extremely wealthy man who had received every award his peers could bestow and had been given medals by multiple presidents. As I said at the start, this episode will go up at one minute past midnight on the 24th of December 2018,
Starting point is 00:29:07 which means it's Dave Bartholomew's 100th birthday. It's unlikely he'll ever hear it, but I'd like to wish him a happy birthday anyway, and many more of them. So to finish off, here's a record Bartholomew played on seven years ago, when he was 93. And for those of you who celebrate it, a Merry Christmas to all of you at home. A history of rock music and 500 songs is written produced and performed by Andrew Hickey. Visit 500Songs.com.
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