A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs - Song 180: “Dazed and Confused” by Led Zeppelin, Part One, The Song Remains the Same

Episode Date: August 24, 2025

For those who haven’t heard the announcement I posted, songs from this point on will sometimes be split among multiple episodes, so this is the first part of a two-episode look at the song “Dazed... and Confused” by Led Zeppelin, although this episode doesn’t get as far as Led Zeppelin’s formation, and is mostly about the intertwining session careers of John Paul Jones and (especially) Jimmy Page. Click the full post to read liner notes, links to more information, and a transcript of the episode. Patreon backers also have a thirty-five minute bonus episode available, on “Boom-Bang-a-Bang” by Lulu. Tilt Araiza has assisted invaluably by editing, and will hopefully be doing so from now on. Check out Tilt’s irregular podcasts at http://www.podnose.com/jaffa-cakes-for-proust and http://sitcomclub.com/ (more…)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A History of rock music and 500 songs by Andrew Hick. Song 180 Dazed and Confused by Led Zeppelin Part 1 The song remains the same. Before we begin, this episode contains some mild mentions of mental health problems, alcohol abuse and violence. If those things are likely to upset you,
Starting point is 00:00:26 you may want to check the transcript instead of listening. One of the biggest changes to the way popular music was marketed from the mid-60s onwards is the new emphasis that was put on performers who also wrote their own material. There had, of course, always been performers who wrote, particularly in the blues and country genres, where the smaller labels that put out records by new artists wanted the copyright in new songs as much as they wanted the rights to recording, but in every genre to at least some extent.
Starting point is 00:00:54 And we've looked at plenty of artists in recent episodes who didn't write all their own material. bands like the turtles, the monkeys or the birds, and most of the Motown artists, were at least as known for interpretations of other people's songs as for writing their own. But it was still the case that, in large part because of the promotion of Lennon and McCartney as songwriters as well as performers, and of Bob Dylan as a performer of his own material, as the 60s drew on, a key signifier of authenticity in popular music. A fraught concept of the best of times was whether the performer wrote the songs they were performing. and so there grew to be a change in the type of material that charted.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Before the mid-60s, it was expected that songs would be performed by many different artists who would each do their own version in their own style. Tony Bennett's version of Cold Cold Heart bore little or no relationship to Hank Williams' and nobody expected it to. But as the idea of people performing their own material as a selling point rather than as just something that happened, started to become prominent in the industry, It also linked with another idea, one that was sold less to the public,
Starting point is 00:02:02 but was nonetheless true. Increasingly, the unit of popular music was the record, not the song. As production was becoming more and more sophisticated, people were constructing sounds in the studio rather than writing songs that would stand apart from their arrangements and performances.
Starting point is 00:02:19 A record like, say, strawberry fuels forever by the Beatles, is not a record that could easily be covered, though of course people have tried. The song is elusive, deeply personal, and really only makes sense when sung by John Lennon, while much of the power of the record comes not from the song, great as it is, but from the Melotron and the orchestral arrangements and so forth. If you replace them, you lose half of what makes strawberry fields worth listening to.
Starting point is 00:02:47 And this posed a problem for a whole generation of singers, because the pop singers who had come to prominence in the 30s, 40s and 50s, many of whom were still only in early middle age, had until very recently been having regular hits and were far from willing to settle back into retirement. They had built their careers on recording their own interpretations of current pop hits, and suddenly most of the biggest hits were not songs you could easily reinterpret. Yet almost all of them,
Starting point is 00:03:15 whether from their own desire to keep up with the times or under record company pressure, felt like they had to record material by the new generation of writers. Sometimes they would manage to pull off something really rather special. Ella Fitzgerald, for example, recorded her Ella album, produced by Richard Perry, in which she recorded songs by Smokey Robinson, Mandy Newman, and The Beatles. And turned in what may be the definitive version of Harry Nilsons, open your window. Others were more mixed And holding your hand
Starting point is 00:04:35 As such a natural Others were more mixed Peggy Leaf, for example, put out some great versions of songs by Randy Newman and Libra and Stoller And did a very creditable take on You Make Me Feel Like a Natural Woman Before the day I met you
Starting point is 00:04:57 Life was so unkind You're the key to my piece of mine But you make me feel you make a natural, and when my soul was in the lost and found. But sounds frankly lost when attempting everyday people. But sometimes the mismatch between singer and song could be so painful that it would continue to be a joke more than 50 years later. As with Frank Sinatra, a man who hated rock and roll and the younger generation with every fibre in his body,
Starting point is 00:06:15 and his different interpretation of Simon & Garfinkel's Mrs. Robinson. Oh bless you please, Mrs. Robinson, heaven holds a place for those who pray. Hey, hey, hey, hey. The Jilly, mentioned in Sinatra's altered lyrics, is not, as one would expect, a woman. Rather, it's a tip of the hat to a man named Ermine Agildo Rizzo, known to everyone as Jilly. Jilly Rizzo was a former bouncer and small-time criminal turned bar owner, and the bar he owned, Jalise in Manhattan, became the place where Sinatra spent most of his time when he was in New York,
Starting point is 00:07:16 and it was there that the two most successful singers named Frank from New Jersey met, sometime towards the end of the 60s. While Sinatra was born in Hoboken, Frankie Valley was from Newark, about 12 miles away, and was, like Sinatra, an Italian-American. His birth name is Francesco Castelluccio, and he had been inspired to become a singer in large part thanks to being taken by his mother to see a Sinatra show when he was seven years old.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Success had come relatively late for Valley, who had started performing in 1951 and made his first solo record in 1953, and had then struggled for years with a vocal group called The Four Lovers, who had various line-up changes but didn't really come together as a group until they met the Royal Teens, who had been one hit wonders with short shorts. Bob Gordi, the Royal Teens keyboard player, had co-written that song, and he joined the Four Lovers,
Starting point is 00:08:38 who soon after changed their name to the Four Seasons. Very early on, Vali and Gordio agreed between themselves that the two of them, as lead singer and songwriter respectively, would actually be the Four Seasons legally. Other members came and went over the years, and Gordio stopped touring with the group in 1972,
Starting point is 00:08:56 though he remained with them for recordings. But to this day, the Four Seasons partnership is Frankie Valley, who still tours in his 90s, and Bob Gordio, who was 82 years old. Indeed, that partnership has always been on the honour system. According to Gordio, there has never been a formal contract made up for their partnership
Starting point is 00:09:14 because it encompasses so many different aspects. Performance, owning of their master recordings, their publishing company, the Four Seasons name, and much more besides. Instead, they sealed the agreement with a handshake in 1962, and as Vali puts it, It has lasted longer than any of our marriages, so what can I tell you?
Starting point is 00:09:34 Everybody should start a relationship with a handshake and live a couple of states away from each other. And they split everything. Gordio gets an equal royalty for every performance that Bally does, whether as the Four Seasons or a solo artist, and whether he's performing Gordio's material or someone else's. And similarly, Valley gets 50% of Gordio's songwriting money, whether for songs he wrote for the Four Seasons or for other artists.
Starting point is 00:09:58 After a false start with a single on Gone Records, one of several labels started by George Golderman bought up by Morris Levy, the four seasons had their first hit in 1962 with Sherry, a song by Gordio which reached number one. That record was produced by Bob Crew, who would often co-write with Gordio, and soon there was a whole hit-making team based around the four seasons,
Starting point is 00:10:52 with everyone having a part to play. Valley as lead singer, Bob Crew, as producer and sometime lyricist, Bob Gordio as principal songwriter and uncredited co-producer, and Charles Colello, a former member of the four lovers who Valli had kept in touch with, and who had briefly joined the four seasons himself when bass player Nick Massey left before her permanent replacement was found, as a ranger, later joined by the additional songwriting team of Sandy Linza and Denny Randell,
Starting point is 00:11:19 who would write both as a team on their own and with Crewe and Gordio. The group had a very distinctive style. led by Valley's piercing falsetto, they combined harmonies influenced by the four freshmen, high-loughs and modern airs, though never as complex as any of those groups, with a stomping four on the floor beat very much in the style of the records
Starting point is 00:11:39 Holland Dozier and Holland were producing for Motown around the same time. Not everything was a hit, but after Sherry they had three more number one hits in the next two years. Big girls don't cry, walk like a man, and ragdoll. In the years from 19,
Starting point is 00:13:30 In 1962 through 1964, they were the second biggest American band in terms of record sales after the Beach Boys, and while the Beach Boys had more hits overall in that time, they didn't get their first number one until the four seasons had had four. There was a friendly rivalry between the two as a result, with the Beach Boys slipping in a dig at the East Coast group in their album track, Surfers Rule. The four seasons suffered more than the Beach Boys from the British invasion. It didn't help that their record label, Vijay, had picked up the license to the Beatles' first album before Capital had released I Want to Hold Your Hand, and Vijay, understandably, decided to concentrate
Starting point is 00:14:38 on making as much money from the Beatles as they could in 1964. Vijay also ended up going bankrupt as a result of a combination of legal action by Capital to try to reclaim the rights to that album, and trying to deliver vastly more stock than they had capacity to produce. Luckily for Valley, crew and Gordio they got the rights to their recordings back in a settlement when VJ collapsed
Starting point is 00:15:00 but the group wouldn't have a number one again until 1975 they did though have a run of top 20 and top 10 hits in the mid-60s records like Big Man in Town and Let's Hang On they also put out a version of Bob Dylan's Don't Think Twice It's All Right as the Wonder Who It didn't take much to figure out who they were though thanks to Valley's distinctive vocal and that made number 12.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Not only that, but they tried the same trick that had been done with Buddy Holly and the Cricket, releasing some singles under Valley's name as a solo artist, though the tracks were recorded at four season sessions with the other seasons on backing vocals. Some of these were hits as well, like the Crewe and Gordio song, Can't Take My Eyes Off You, which went to number two.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And even when songs weren't a huge hit for Valley or the group, they would still often be a success for someone else. The Tremelows had a big hit in both the first. US and the UK with a version of Crew and Gordio's Silence is Golden, which had been the B-side of Ragdoll. While Crew and Gordios, the sun ain't going to shine anymore, which had been a flop solo single for Valley, not even reaching the Hot 100, made the US top 20 and UK number one in a cover version by the Walker brothers. Valley and Sinatra met when the four seasons agreed at the last minute to replace the headliner at a benefit show Sinatra's mother had put on when the headliner became
Starting point is 00:19:27 unavailable. Sanatra got Jilly to invite Valley to the bar to meet him and thank Valley for doing a favour for his mother. The two became friends and became closer in 1968 when they did some shows together for Hubert Humphrey's unsuccessful presidential campaign. The last time Senatra would endorse a Democrat. He endorsed Ronald Reagan for Governor of California in 1970 and Humphrey's victorious opponent Richard Nixon in his 1972 re-election campaign. according to Colello Valli and Sinatra got talking and Sinatra asked Vali how he'd
Starting point is 00:20:01 managed to have so many hits Sinatra himself was in something of a career slump and was worrying about how he could continue to be relevant in a market he didn't understand Calello later said Frankie had a lot of confidence in my ability and he also had a lot of confidence in Gordio's ability
Starting point is 00:20:17 so he told Sanatra he had all those hit records because Bob Gordio wrote and produced all their songs and Sinatra said Well, could he write some songs for me? He did, but they weren't the kind of songs that the four seasons have become famous with. Like everyone else in the music business, Bob Gordio had been shaken by the release of Sergeant Papa's Lonely Hearts Club band in 1967. While to modern years, Papper no longer sounds like that much of a departure from the music around it. We can hear more clearly how it was a natural response to the music that other artists were making at the time.
Starting point is 00:21:22 It seemed like a total break from everything that pop music had been in 1967. And as a result, over the next year or two, all the pop actor had been having hits in 1964 through 66 found themselves in the same position as those singers from an earlier age, trying desperately to adapt to the new style. And so just as the crooners were all making my rock and roll record, every beat group and vocal group that didn't just decide to give up and accept obsolescence decided to make our Sergeant Pepper, an orchestral psychedelic album that showed how ambitious they could be.
Starting point is 00:21:56 We've heard about these in episodes on the Rolling Stones, whose Sergeant Pepper was, of course, their satanic majesty's request, and the small faces, who did Ogden's Knock-on-Flake. But there were many, many more. The best and best known of these is the Zombies Odyssey and Oracle, which now regularly makes lists of the greatest albums ever made. But there are also albums like The BG's Odessa. Her face shouldn't show any size
Starting point is 00:23:11 Chad and Jememes of Cabbages and Kings Overcrowded world What happens now Better pray to your gods And hope that somehow Far from the shack you call home They aren't burning the grain That has ripened and grown
Starting point is 00:23:40 Because the prices have fallen again Eat up your race And Jen and Dean's O'Malley's O'Malley's Carnival of Sound Coasters on the rainbow running on like in this time with Stan and Ollie in the front and Mahadi she's back behind Years have passed and they're still here
Starting point is 00:24:16 With the smile that time can't void And laughter rakes throughout the world For their art reserve don't sell you And when Gordio had decided to make the Four Seasons own Sergeant Pepper, he had decided to use a new collaborator he hadn't worked with before, a fokey he had seen playing at a Greenwich Village club. Gordio had seen Jake Holmes singing a song titled Genuine Imitation Life and decided that he would be the perfect lyricist to work on the Four Seasons
Starting point is 00:24:48 new socially conscious psychedelic material. Communions changing colors while a crocodile cries rubbing elbows, but never touching eyes, taking off their masks, revealing. Holmes was a very odd character, who had had a bizarre career that intersected with many of the stars long before connecting with Gordio. He had actually started out in comedy.
Starting point is 00:25:35 He and his then wife had formed a comedy duo that satirised the Clean Cup folk singers of the time, calling themselves Alan and Greer, they released one album, it's better to be richer than ethnic. Coincidentally on VJ Records, the same label at the Four Seasons were on at the time. Moms was the name she went by. She was Daddy's Chocolate A. Clair.
Starting point is 00:25:59 I recall the memo she typed us, ere she rode in pursuit of the fox in his lair. It read. It's better to be rich than ethnic. That's the American way. According to Holmes, Pete Tigger called Alan and Greer, the most tasteless folk group ever, and a lot of their material has dated rather badly.
Starting point is 00:26:31 The ballad of the Camping Woodcutters, for example, is a parody's 17th century ballad that uses a variety of words that have two meanings, but in all cases one of them is a homophobic slur. However, Holmes and his wife split up sometime in the early 60s, and obviously the Alan and Greer Act ended when the two parted ways. For a while, Holmes performed with Tim Rose, the folk singer we've heard about in several episodes,
Starting point is 00:26:56 including the ones on San Francisco and Hay Joe, playing bass with Rose and rhythm guitarist Rich Hudson in a trio variously known as the Feldman's and Tim Rose and the Thorns. While that trio does not appear to have made any recordings that I can find, According to Holmes, it was with that group that Rose first started performing his slowed down arrangement of Hey Joe. But Holmes quit that act as well and formed a comedy folk trio. Jim, Jake and Joan was put together by Holmes' manager Fred Weintraub
Starting point is 00:27:54 and was meant to be a satirical comedy answer to Peter Paul and Mary who had been put together by Weintraub's rival, Albert Grossman. The group did a mixture of Alan and Greer material and newer comedy songs, but they were never very successful. As far as I've been able to tell, the only surviving recording of the group is from an ultra-low-budget feature film, variously called Hoot and Annie a Go-Go or Once Upon a Coffee Shop. That film apparently only got a single screening at the time
Starting point is 00:28:20 but featured a bunch of similarly unknown artists, including the Gold Briars, whose leader Kurt Becher has also turned up in several episodes, and this performance by the trio. This is Bob Floyd, speaking to you from Flint, Michigan. I'm talking with young Betty Johnson here. Betty's class was divided into two groups, one brushed with crest,
Starting point is 00:28:40 the other used another leading dentifrist. Betty, would you mind telling us the results of these tests? My group had 79% more cavities. And you weren't one of the lucky press users. No. Tell me this, what did you learn from these extensive texts? Had a suffer. That group also split up soon,
Starting point is 00:29:02 because when they turned up to perform at a rally for Robert F. Kennedy's senatorial campaign in 1964, Joan insisted on wearing a badge for his Republican rival, and Jim decided that the group didn't need her anymore. Jim Connell became a minor bit party, actor with a handful of credits in shows like Get Smart and the Wild Wild West, usually for unnamed rules. Joan Rivers, though, had slightly more success, and the reason the film is available today is because it's her first credited film appearance. After this, Holmes briefly joined
Starting point is 00:29:33 a rock group, but decided that wasn't working and he wanted to be a singer-songwriter in the mould of Jacques Brel. He got together jazz guitarist Ted Irwin and bass player Rick Randall, and started play in the coffee houses. In 1967 he released his debut album, The Above Ground Sound of Jake Holmes, including the single Genuine Imitation Life. Taking off their masks, revealing, still another guy's imitation. The album did little, although that song was picked up by Jackie Lomax, a singer and friend of the Beatles, who was managed by Brian Epstein, who released his own solo version as a single.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Kameleons changing colors by a crocodile crowd. Holmes followed the above ground sound with a second album, again featuring Irwin but no longer featuring Mandel, who had had mental health problems and eventually refused to get on a plane. That one, a letter to Catherine December, a collection of songs mostly about the breakdown of Holmes's marriage, is generally considered his greatest, and is very much in the same mould as albums like Astral Weeks, Forever Changes, and the early work of Tim Buckley,
Starting point is 00:31:39 combining light orchestration, eccentric folk-style melodies, and jazz guitar. Love is made from separate rooms, doors lock shut from, Inside tune Gold spins to straw on magicless looms But I still chase your eyes Climbing up a waterfall Neither of these albums Did anything much in terms of sales
Starting point is 00:32:19 But Holmes was getting noticed by other musicians He, Irwin and Mandel played on the bottom of the bill to the Youngbloods and the Arbbirds in late 1967 And two of the Arbbirds immediately went out and bought his first album after the show. And Bob Gordio was similarly impressed. Holmes and Gordio wrote an entire album of songs for the Four Seasons,
Starting point is 00:32:40 titled Genuine Imitation Life Gazette, and featuring the four seasons own version of Holmes' first solo single as its title track. It's changing colors while a crocodile cry. People rubbing elbows, but never touching eyes. Taking off their... That track included a section where they just copied the ending of Hey Jude, hoping and expecting to get sued for it and maybe get some free publicity.
Starting point is 00:34:06 But of course, at that time, with one or two exceptions, rock musicians were generally of the opinion that it was okay to steal a little bit of each other's songs, and no action was ever taken. The material Holmes and Gordio came up with was very, very far from anything the four seasons were known for before. given songs like Big Girls Don't Cry and Cherry, you can understand why people were not expecting a seven-minute opening song titled American Crucifixion Resurrection. And why the first single, Saturday's father,
Starting point is 00:35:10 a slow ballad about a divorced father taking his kids out on the one day a week he has custody, was not a massive commercial success. The album was a masterpiece, and it was a masterpiece, and it was given an exceptionally imaginative complex package, one that befitted an album of its status. The Gatefold cover was designed as a newspaper, with a mixture of joking articles about the band, one member marrying the silent film star Thedibara, for example, and articles that were just the lyrics to some of the songs. This cover was later covered, as it were, by both John Lennon and Yerkerono for their sometime in New York City album. Lennon apparently said the album was a favourite of his,
Starting point is 00:36:22 and Jethro Tull for Thick as a Brick. The album also featured an insert in the style of a colour supplement, including pages of joke adverts and a comics page with parodies of then-current newspaper comic strips done in the style of the underground comics that were popular at the time, and, sadly, reproducing some of the racist caricatures that were popular in that style. The whole thing was one of the most incredibly imaginative records of the late 60s,
Starting point is 00:36:47 but sold pitifully compared to other Four Seasons albums, because their team pop audience didn't want psychedelic satirical records with orchestrations that were something like a Van Dyke Park's album, while the audience for that kind of material didn't want it from the four seasons. But it was the team behind this album, Holmes, Gordio and arranger Charles Colello, that Sinatra took on in the hope of revitalising his own career. After the introduction by Valli, who gets a special thanks in the liner notes to the record,
Starting point is 00:37:16 and who seems to regard the eventual album as much a part of his legacy as his own recordings, Gordio became the one who dealt with Sinatra and his team, and he was rather desperate to please him. At one point during the discussions, Gordio mentioned that he'd just bought a holiday estate and suggested that Sinatra should come and visit as a pleasantry. Sinatra agreed and said, I'll bring my trunks, causing Gordio to panic. He didn't actually have a swimming pool there. He rushed to get one put in the couple of days before Sinatra arrived, and then, depending on which version of the story you believe,
Starting point is 00:37:47 either Sinatra cancelled at the last minute just as the pool had been completed, or there was a rainstorm just as it was completed which washed tons of soil into the pool and mended it unusable. There seems to have been a little miscommunication between Sinatra's camp and Toms and Gordio. They went off and wrote an entire concept album and only later realised it had only been expecting to get a song or two. But as it happened, Sinatra chose to record the entire album, and it became the most remarkable record of Sinatra's career. The album, titled Watertown, was conceived with the expectation that it would go along with the TV special, which seems to have been planned at one point.
Starting point is 00:38:24 And the opening title track works to set the scene. One can imagine the visuals as a camera tracks him from a distant shot of the town itself to Sinatra alone, singing on a railway station platform. And no one... The bass figure at the start of the album seems to be, though I've never seen anyone state this definitively, a nod back to Sinatra's earlier hit Love and Marriage. But if so, it's a bitterly ironic one, and the album turns the theme of that track on its head.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Watertown is an early example of the sub-genre of records that became popular in the early 70s, records about divorce. Sinatra is in character throughout the record as an older man whose younger, vibrant wife, has left him and their children and taken off to the big city. After the album's opening, we're introduced to the real premise, as Sinatra sings about the break-up in the present tense.
Starting point is 00:39:47 It's happening now, as if the protagonist is trapped in that moment forever. Just as I begin to say that we should make another try. She reaches out across the table, looks at me and quietly says There is no big explosion No tempest in the tea The world does not stop turning round Most of the rest of the album
Starting point is 00:40:25 consists of songs addressed to the protagonist's wife Elizabeth Seeming to be letters he's writing Either talking about his current life And telling her about their children and how they're growing up Or reminiscing about their past life together As the album goes on we start to be able that the protagonist is an unreliable narrator. In his descriptions of his wife, it becomes clear that he never understood her, even though he loved her.
Starting point is 00:40:48 She was brighter, younger and more ambitious than him, and seems to have run off with the man who shares more of those qualities. The album is one of the bleakest, most adult records I've ever heard, and is a genuinely difficult listen which has often reduced me to literal tears. The most devastating song in the context of the story is What's Now is Now, where our protagonist is so deeply in denial but also deeply in love that he thinks the only thing stopping his ex-wife from returning to him
Starting point is 00:41:16 is worry about either his reaction or that of the neighbours that she'll come back if only she knows she's forgiven just one mistake is not enough to change my mind what's now is now
Starting point is 00:41:35 and I'll forget what happened And when I know it all. And the album ends with two songs that between them leave you wondering just how unreliable a narrator the unnamed protagonist is. In She Says, we get the news that Elizabeth is returning. And she says, she says she's coming home. And then in the final song, The Train,
Starting point is 00:42:42 we return to that train platform as the protagonist waits and wait and wait and she doesn't come. The passengers for Allentown are gone The train is slowly moving on I can't see you any place
Starting point is 00:43:06 And I know for sure I'd recognize you feel And I know for sure I'd recognize your face. But the real punchline, the part that makes you wonder if you've been understanding what's going on at all,
Starting point is 00:43:28 is hidden in the middle of the song when he's still happy and singing about how we'll talk about the part of you I never understood and I will take good care of you and never let you cry. So many changes since you've been away
Starting point is 00:43:40 and there's so many things to say I wrote so many times. The letters still are lying in my draw. Because the morning mail had left some time before. The letters he's been writing to her have just been put in a drawer. He never actually sent them, so what was she replying to? Did he ever receive a reply from her at all? He's been stood on the platform all day.
Starting point is 00:44:17 At the start of the album, there's someone standing in the rain waiting for the morning train, But by the last track, the sun has broken through and the kids are coming home from school, so he's not been waiting for a particular train, he's just been stood there, in the rain, all day, waiting for Elizabeth to turn up. Watertown is a devastating, astonishing album, a masterpiece on a different level from almost any record of its type, and one of the few albums of this era to have truly literate and literary lyrics. Words which take on more meaning and significance, the more attention you pay to them, rather than dissolving into meaninglessness.
Starting point is 00:44:55 And it became Sinatra's worst-selling album ever. It's now regarded as one of the best things in his discography, but it took decades to reach that state. It's also one of the very few Sinatra albums to have inspired almost no cover versions. The only notable one is Nina Simone's rather lovely version of For a while. music I've got to do forget I'm not over you the songwriting partnership between Gordio and Holmes soon petered out
Starting point is 00:45:58 given that the collaboration seemed to have the opposite of the Midas touch there were a handful more credits on four seasons records and one for Sinatra mostly leftovers from their earlier collaborations but the four seasons continued without Holmes after a few years floundering they released several more hits in the mid-70s, capitalising on a wave of nostalgia for the late 50s and early 60s, like December 1963, oh what a night. Valley continues performing as the four seasons to this day. Holmes went back to solo recording, but never had much more success as a performer. He did have some success as a songwriter, though. His next solo album, so close, so very far to go, was the closest he came to
Starting point is 00:47:16 having a hit record, the album making number 135 on the album chart, while the lead off single, so close, reached number 49 on the charts. That's sure I know. That's somehow became some time between us, but I had to stand back some, to get the room to see. That's all right now. That somehow became something of a standard though, being recorded by a bizarre variety of performers, including the British comedian Freddy Star. Mary Travers, formerly of Peter Paul and Mary, and Harry Bella Fonte. Bella Fonty, just one look, you could see my eyes were asking. Bella Fonte, in fact, became a big advocate of Holmes' work, and over the years he recorded many of Holmes' songs.
Starting point is 00:49:50 While a crocodile cry People rubbing elbows Never touching eyes Taking off their masks Revealing still another guy Genuine Most of Belafonte's records after the mid-70s contained at least one home song
Starting point is 00:50:27 Often several of them Belafonte's last studio album, in fact, 1988's Paradise in Gazankulu, is entirely made up of songs co-written by Holmes, who Belafonte got to collaborate with black South African musicians to write an album of songs about the evils of the apartheid regime. But while Belafonte was the most prominent promoter of Holmes's songwriting, the material Holmes wrote for Belafonte was far from his most successful,
Starting point is 00:51:21 because while Holmes' recording career was never a success, he wrote many, many songs that you have definitely heard, especially if you're an American of a certain age. Like this collaboration with Randy Newman, I drink Dr Pepper and I'm proud, I'm part of an original crowd, and if you look around these days, there seems to be a Dr. Pepper craze.
Starting point is 00:51:45 I'm a pepper, he's a pepper, she's a pepper, we're a pepper, wouldn't you like to be a Pepper too? I'm a pepper, he's a pepper, she's a pepper If you drink Dr. Pepper, you're a Pepper to be a pepper Drink Dr. Pepper Or this You're reaching deep inside you The things you've never known
Starting point is 00:52:08 It's been tough, rough going But you haven't gone alone We do more before 9 a.m. Than most people do all day Oh that you can be Hey first sergeant Good morning You can do it in the army
Starting point is 00:52:30 Or this You're looking sharp You're looking good You've come so far We know how to make The most of who you are It's what we've To let many faces
Starting point is 00:53:01 It's plain to see If you are we have to give For all we have to give For all The Gillette Atroplus system with a lubris smooth script for the best a man can get. And of course, there was the song that impressed the yard birds so much that they had to go out and buy Holmes' first album after seeing him support them. A song was almost everyone who has heard a late 60s rock record has heard,
Starting point is 00:53:41 though almost none of them knew it was by Holmes. Jimmy and choose, well I'd just like to know Give me a clue as to where I am at I feel like a mouse and you act like a cat Jimmy Page, the man who was credited as the sole writer of the most famous version of that song, started his musical career as a choir boy, something that seems not to fit with Paige's later image
Starting point is 00:54:26 as the biggest proponent of the occult and black magic in rock and roll music. but it was, paradoxically, his love of the devil's music that got him involved with the church. As he told the Sunday Times in 2010, in those days it was difficult to access rock and roll music, because after all the riots happened in the cinemas
Starting point is 00:54:43 when people heard rock around the clock in the film Blackboard Jungle, the authorities tried to lock it all down. So you needed to tune into the radio or go to places where you could hear it. It just so happened that in youth clubs there were play records, and you'd get to hear Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis and Ricky Nelson.
Starting point is 00:54:59 but you had to either go to church or be a member of the choir to go to the youth club. When he was 12, in 1956, Paige decided to pick up an acoustic guitar that had been left in his family home by a previous occupier and had gone untouched for a long time. He was inspired by hearing Scotty Moore's playing on Elvis's Baby Let's Play House in particular. More would be Paige's first guitar hero, and he decided that he needed to learn to play like that. He found a friend at school, Rod Wyatt, who showed him a few chords, and then he got hold of Bert Weeden's classic instruction manual playing in a day.
Starting point is 00:56:05 He started playing guitar for up to seven hours a day, practicing intently. An only child, who was somewhat spoiled by his parents, he was soon able to get a semi-acoustic guitar and an amp and a small tape recorder. While Scotty Moore was his first musical influence, he soon found others, most notably Chuck Berry, who he became obsessed with to the point that in his teens he once hitchhacked 50 miles to get to a cinema which was showing the classic documentary about the Newport Jazz Festival, jazz on a summer's day, because there was a performance by Barry of a single song in it. Like every teenager in possession of a guitar in 1957, Page formed his own skiffle group,
Starting point is 00:56:44 the James Page Skiffle Group. Unlike most of them though Page even at 13 was ambitious and focused on success He made his first TV appearance that year on a children's show presented by Hugh Weldon Playing guitar and also singing on Mama Don't Allow The Old Folk Song
Starting point is 00:57:01 And on Hugh Lee Ledbetter's Cottonfields Okay now you're going to go into what The Cotton song Cotton song Cotton away When I was a little baby Mama me used to rob me In them old Cotton Fields back home
Starting point is 00:57:15 It was down in Louisiana, not a mile from Texicana, In their old, cotton fields back home. Interviewed by Weldon between the songs, Page said that he wanted to go into biological research and find a cure for cancer. But it was very obvious even at that age that he was going to become a musician. The next few years saw him become ever more focused on that. emulating his guitar heroes. Along with Barry and Moore, his biggest influences in these early years were Cliff Gallup, the original guitarist for Jean Vincent's Bluecaps.
Starting point is 00:58:40 And James Burton, who would go on to play with the wrecking crew and Elvis, but at this point was playing for Ricky Nelson. School friends remember Paige, spending a long time trying to replicate Burton's solo on It's Late. Paige had to run out of gas It's late We got to get home fast Can't speak
Starting point is 00:59:12 We're in a slowdown zone My baby look at that clock Why can it be wrong If we could have left home And a quarter to nine Would have had fun Plenty of Time Page left school at 15
Starting point is 00:59:25 But not to become a biological researcher As he'd intended two years earlier Instead he was going to get into the music business And not just as a musician At the age of 17 he approached local singer Chris Farlow, the leader of an R&B group, Chris Fallow and the Thunderbirds. Farlow was a few years older and was starting to be regarded as the best blues singer in London at the time.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Page offered to produce an album for Farlow and the Thunderbirds. He'd put up the money to record it himself and he would supervise but not play on the session. The album didn't get released until 2017, but Page did finance and produce the record, which was made up of cover versions of contemporary R&M. beat tracks, like Bobby Parker's Watch Your Step, and Barrett Strong's Money. Farlow remembered that Page already seemed to have a good understanding of the studio,
Starting point is 01:00:45 and that he'd suggested recording the guitar by direct injection, rather than going through an amp. But while Page didn't play on that session, it was not because he had given up on playing the guitar. He was spending much of his time playing with a band called Reddy Lewis and the Redcaps, named in honour of Jean Vincent's Blue Caps. And around the same time we produced the Follow album, He was also introduced to the poet Royston Ellis, who, as we heard in the episode on Apache, had been performing poetry recitals backed by the Shadows, but was looking for other musicians to back him in his rocketry performances,
Starting point is 01:01:18 because the shadows were now well on their way to dominating the British charts for the first chunk of the 60s. Ellis initially thought that the Redcaps could be his backing band for Southern dates. He had another band he was working with in the North, but eventually just decided to use Jimmy Page on his own, including, as we again heard in the Apache episode, for what would be Page's second TV appearance. From the flickering screen of a boy and his bird in the stalls.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Not cuddling and kissing right at the back, but slumped in the front row, sharing a basket of fruit. Sucking an orange with casual pleasure, then munching an apple and punching his bird with warm understanding and a tender lack of any accepted traditions while the red caps as a group didn't do much
Starting point is 01:02:16 they did through their connection with Ellis indirectly have a big effect on music history because at least according to one biography of page I've used as a source for this episode it was the red caps who taught Ellis how you could get amphetamins from an inhaler a trickie then showed to his northern band thus introducing the Beatles to drugs for the first time
Starting point is 01:02:36 The Redcaps changed their name to Neil Christian and The Crusaders and became a moderately successful touring band. They also got signed by Joe Meek who produced their first single recorded in October 1962, the month the 60s started. Long, babe, this is where you're going off on the road to love. Come along, babe, for this grand excursion, off on the road to love. Loneliness won't get you anymore So come along babe
Starting point is 01:03:20 This is worth annoying A version of that without Meeks orchestral overdubs was released a couple of years ago So you can hear Pages guitar playing better So go tell your folks Keep your time is aching We're on the road to love However, by the time the single was released
Starting point is 01:04:09 in November 1962, Page had got tired of life on the road. He was becoming ill on a regular basis, coming down with repeated bouts of glandular fever, what Americans call mono, which he put down to touring in a cramped tourboss with no heating, and the general unglamorous lifestyle of the touring musician. Ageed 18, Jimmy Page decided he was going to give up
Starting point is 01:04:32 on becoming a musician and become an artist instead. He quit the band and started at art school, though giving up on the ambition to being musician didn't stop him for being intensely interested in music. On October the 22nd he travelled all the way to Manchester to see the American Folk Blues Festival, a touring package featuring, among others, T-bone Walker, John Lee Hooker,
Starting point is 01:04:56 Sonny Terry and Varney McGee, and a name that would recur later in Page's life, Willie Dixon, who we can hear here on an earlier show from the same package tour. me, she squeeze me real, the time. She'll look me in her eyes and say, if it, the thing's all right, well I get nervous. Page traveled to Manchester alone on the train, we got a lift back to London with his friend Davy Williams and three friends of Williams'es. Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Brian Jones.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Williams had met those three at Alexis Corners Club, and soon Paige would find himself playing occasional gigs with Corner and Sybil Davis, though only ever as a fill-in or rock jam. He had no intention of ever going back on the road again. He had also found a new friend through going to art college. His classmate, Annetta Beck, told her brother Jeff that she'd found another person as mad about electric guitars as he, was and the two of them would sit around in Page's family home playing guitar together
Starting point is 01:06:12 for hours at a time. But then everything changed for Page. Glyn Johns, who was then starting his own career in the music business as a tape-hop, was from the same area as Page and had seen him playing a handful of times. He told Mike Leander, just starting his own career as a producer, to check out Page's playing, and the And The Anda offered Page's session playing on a single by Carter Lewis and the Southerners, Page's first session gig. Paige would actually turn out the light, your mama's out of town, Put the money down. Page would actually very briefly join that band,
Starting point is 01:07:13 who had gone to become the Ivy League, and who would write, produce or sing on a string of hits for various manufactured bands, including the new vaudeville band, the flower pop men, white planes and first class. But what changed Paige's life was the realization that you didn't have to be in a band to make money as a musician. He could become a session player
Starting point is 01:07:31 and not have to tour all around the country in a transit band. That first recording wasn't hugely successful, but Paige had got the studio bug, and his second session was very successful. As we heard in the episode on Apache, the Shadow's bass player Jeff Harris and drummer Tony Mehan had both quit what was the most successful group in Britain at the time, and they had started their own recording career.
Starting point is 01:07:55 On Diamonds, written by Jerry Laudan, wrote Apache. Harris plays the Dwayne Eddy-style baritone guitar, but Page plays acoustic rhythm behind him. That went to number one, and Page now had a credit that would open innumerable doors for him as a session player, as did the bass player on that session, who was known then as John Baldwin, but would soon take on the stage name John Paul Jones. Page quickly became the second-call session guitarist in London. The guitarist a new generation of pop producers called first was always Big Jim Sullivan, but if Big Jim couldn't do it, or if you needed a rhythm player as well as lead, you called Jimmy Page, who was Little Jim, partly in contrast
Starting point is 01:09:05 to Big Jim, but also as a reference to the character from The Goon Show. Page was soon playing on multiple sessions a day every day, though when Moist and Ellis interviewed him for Channel TV, the tiny ITB franchise that only broadcast to the Channel Islands, in June 1963, he still seemed to think of the music as a distraction from art school rather than a name in itself. What are the big names that you have backed on this? Jedd Harris and Tony Mien, Eden Kane, Duffy Power. What is it like working with some of the really big names of show business? Disappointing. Why is that?
Starting point is 01:09:41 Well, they don't come up to how you expect them to be. Rather disappointing on the whole, I would say. See, well, that's probably bad news for some record fans. What's your personal, well, your professional ambition? Is it to be a guitarist all the time? Do you want to make your own record? No, not necessarily. I'm very interested in art.
Starting point is 01:10:01 I think I'd like to become an accomplished artist. Rather than the guitarist? Yes, possibly. Is this a means to an end for you? Are you hoping to earn enough money through your guitar playing? Yes, yes. I hope you to finance my art by the guitar. But as the British music business picked up in the wake of the Beatles' success,
Starting point is 01:10:17 Paige soon found himself with more session work than he could handle, especially from the American producer's Shell Tami and Bert Byrne, and from Mickey most. Sometimes he would just be adding some extra rhythm guitar, thickening the riff on a record otherwise made by a proper band, as in the whose I Can't Explain, which also featured his former bandmates from Carter Lewis in the Southerners, now the Ivy League, on backing vocals.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Or Baby Please Don't Go by them, whose guitarist Bobby Harrison resented the way people later credited Paige for Harrison's lead parts, when Page was doubling the bass part instead. He played on Lulu's version of Here Comes the Night, produced like the Them track by Burns. He played rhythm to Big Jim Sullivan's lead on the Crane game by Dave Berry. He's on Downtown by Petula Clark. That's him doing the sharp stabs in the second verse. And he's playing to the rhythm of a gentle boss and over happy again. And he's playing acoustic rhythm guitar on Goldfinger by Shirley Bassie.
Starting point is 01:13:41 He also played on a lot of less successful records, like a cover of Bobby Blue Blan's I Pity the Fool that Shell Talmy produced for a group called The Manish Boys, on which page did get to play lead for a change. Though while that wasn't a hit at the time, the singer would go on to much bigger things after changing his name from Davy Jones to David Bowie. Similarly, Page played on a cover version of the creepy blues standard Good Morning Little School Girl. Sadly for the singer on that track, whose first single it was, the odd birds released a much poppier version of the song the same month. neither made the top 40
Starting point is 01:15:49 but the yard birds version was more successful though we'll be hearing more from Rod Stewart later not long after that when Eric Clapton left the yard birds they asked Paige if he would be interested in joining the group but Paige was making far more money as a session player than he could from playing with a pop band that had only one hit so far and so he suggested his friend Jeff Beck should join them
Starting point is 01:16:11 sometimes the more obscure records would give Paige the opportunity to shine in a way he couldn't on the more tightly arranged sessions for people like Shirley Bassy, like his solo on Leave My Kitten alone by First Gear, a cover version of a Little Willie John R&B song released as a B-side by an obscure band who split up almost straight away afterwards. He also developed a speciality. He had bought a fuzz pedal, one of the first on the market, after hearing the Ventures track the £2,000 B. However, he'd decided that the pedal didn't have enough sustain and had worked with an electrician friend of his to create a more effective version, which he played on
Starting point is 01:17:49 records like Bald-Headed Woman by The Who, produced by Shell Tell Meek. And Dracula's daughter by Screaming Lord Such and the Savages, produced by Joe Meek. Page was becoming very wealthy as a session player. The average weekly wage in 1964, when Paige was working regularly, was £12. To pay for a single three-hour recording session was £9, and a session musician who was in demand would often play three sessions a day, five days a week, bringing in the equivalent of £2,000 a week in current terms. But he also knew that to make the real big money in the music industry,
Starting point is 01:19:26 you should become a songwriter. Page's entry into professional songwriting came through someone with whom he was in both a romantic and creative partnership for a while. We've talked about Jackie DeShannon before a little, mostly in the episode on Needles and Pins by The Searchers. DeShannon was a singer and songwriter based in California, who had, after meeting Eddie Cochran, started a songwriting partnership with Cochran's more successful girlfriend, Sharon Shealy,
Starting point is 01:19:51 which had led to the writing hits like Brenda Lee's Heart in Hand. The Shannon had, as a performer, recorded the original version of Needles and Pins, a song she always claimed to have co-written but which was officially credited to Sonny Bono and Jack Michie, two people I could very easily believe would steal a songwriting credit. She had also recorded her own song, When You Walk in the Room. Both of those songs have been covered by the searchers and become massive hits in the UK. So like many of the people with whom Paige was associated at this time, like Shel Talmy and Burt Burns, Deshannon had relocated from the US to the UK and decided to record here.
Starting point is 01:22:03 At her first session at Abbey Road, Deshannon wanted the best acoustic guitar session player, and she was told that Paige was the one to go for. When she played him the song she'd written for the session, she was astonished at how well this young session player, a couple of years younger than her, handled her rudimentary riff. incidentally the weird swimmy sound on Paige's guitar there is not some sort of encoding issue with the file for this episode it sounds like that on every copy of that track I've heard
Starting point is 01:23:01 after the session Deshannon invited Paige back to her place to listen to a Bob Dylan album and the two soon became lovers and also songwriting partners Paige played on a lot of her demo sessions around this time which leads to him sometimes being erroneously credited for having co-written songs he didn't like Dreamboy which is credited to DeShannon alone, although features some very distinctive page playing on the demo.
Starting point is 01:23:58 But the two wrote, I've got my tears to remind me, released by Doug Gibbons. In My Time of Sorrow, an album track for Marianne Faithful. A lot of sources credit page for having co-written Faithful's top ten hit come and stay with me, but that was written by DeShannon alone. They wrote leaves that come tumbling down for Judy Smith, who appears never to have released another record,
Starting point is 01:25:22 and stop that girl for Barb Ville. Lewis. Page also started to get some songwriting credits on songs he played on around this time. Mostly these were studio jams put out as B-sides, but he did get one solo songwriting credit around this time. A single was put out under the name Kenny and Deny, presumably a typo for Denny. A studio duo consisting of Paige and session singer Kenny Rowe of the surf pop group Tony Rivers and the Castaways. The A-side, Tried to Forget Me, was written by Paige and Gay Schingleton. a presenter of the TV show Ready, Steady Go, for whom Page produced a US-only single.
Starting point is 01:27:01 But the B-side, Little Surfer Girl, was by Paige alone. Page seemed to be thinking about becoming an artist. Not only did he release the Kenny and Deny single. Around that time he also released his only record as a lead vocalist, encouraged by Nishanan. She Just Satisfised was co-written by Paige and Barry Mann, and Paige plays every instrument except the drums, played by Bobby Graham.
Starting point is 01:27:53 while Deschannon had some backing vocals. Page also made his first trip to America with Deschannon, visiting both coasts and hobnobbing with people in the American music business. He stayed with his old friend Bert Burns in New York, then traveled over to Deshaunan's hometown of L.A. According to many sources, while he was over there, he also played on Deshannon's big hit version
Starting point is 01:28:43 of Baccarac and David's What the World Needs Now is Love. What the world needs now is love. I say love, sweet love, it's the only thing that there's just too little love. Not just for some, but for everyone. I say according to many sources, because some say he only played on the B-side, recorded in England, because he wasn't a member of the American Federation musicians. without access to the session documentation, there's no way to know for sure, and as with many things to do with Page, the credits are very murky.
Starting point is 01:29:37 According to many people, including both Marianne Faithful and Kim Fowley, it was the relationship with DeShannon that made Page come out of his shell and stop being an introvert and start becoming much more experimental in his personal life. Their relationship didn't last much longer, though. According to DeShannon, he wanted to split from the music world because he was getting disillusion Jimmy wanted to go to Cornwall or the Channel Islands and sell pottery. He couldn't stand the business the strain
Starting point is 01:30:04 and I couldn't stand his dream of quietness so he split. As Page was not able to cope with Jackie DeShannon's wild rock and roll lifestyle, he returned to the UK and went back to his session work. In particular, he was working a lot with Andrew Oldham who liked Mickey Most would usually hire Paige on guitar. Oldham was, at the time,
Starting point is 01:30:24 looking for a new Marianne Faithful and Paige played on several sessions for Oldham that were intended to replicate the success he'd had with Faithful, like Vashti Bunyan's version of Mick Jagger and Keith Richards' as Some Things Just Stick in Your Mind. Jones had some of the same records as Page over the years, and indeed the two had had oddly parallel careers even before they got to know each other. Jones had started out as a church organist and choir master
Starting point is 01:31:26 as a teenager, and of course they both had their big break playing for Jett Harris and Tony Meehan. The big difference was that Jones's parents had been in show business with his dad being a professional pianist who played for Ambrose in his orchestra, one of the most successful dance bands of the 20s through the 40s. And so Jones had had far more formal musical training than page and was able to write orchestral charts,
Starting point is 01:31:49 which meant he was often booked as an arranger, as well as a performer. Jones wasn't his birth name. He had been John Baldwin until Oldham had suggested changing his name, when he had released his only solo single, produced by Oldham, a version of the Lee Hazelwood Surf Instrumental, Baja. As with so many of the credits in this episode, there's a dispute as to who played on what,
Starting point is 01:32:42 but according to most of the sources I've read, both Jones and Page play on I'm Not Saying by another, of Oldham's attempts at a new Marianne Faithful, Nico. Certainly at least Page definitely plays on the B-side, as the Last Mile is credited to Page and Oldham as writers, and to Page as producer. Most sources say it's Paige and Brian Jones playing the two guitars on the track, though Paige himself claims he's playing both.
Starting point is 01:34:13 That was one of the three singles released as the debuts for Oldham's new label, started with Tony Calder, immediate records, and both Page and John Paul Jones would be regular players on immediate sessions, especially Paige, who has made an in-house producer for the label. The first three releases on the label were, I'm not saying, Hang on Sloopy by the McCoys, licensed from the US through a partnership with Paige's old friend Bert Burns, and The Bells of Rimney by the Fifth Avenue, a studio group that Paige put together. The Fifth Avenue record is almost a sounder-like copy of the Bird's version of the song,
Starting point is 01:34:48 Apart from some Beach Boys inspired harmonies at the end, and Page's guitar solo. Of those three, only Hang-on Sloopy was a hit, but Paige would spend much of the next year producing and playing on sessions for immediate, almost always with Jones on bass. Records they played on for immediate included a single that Jagger and Richards wrote for the comedian Jimmy Tarbok. And a single by Glyn Johns, the man who had discovered Jimmy Page, who was in his brief period of trying to be a performer rather than an engineer and producer. That track was something of a reunion for most of the people involved.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Not only was John's, the man who had discovered Page, but the track was produced by Tony Meyne and written by Jerry Laudan, the man who had written Diamonds. However, novelties like that aside, immediate also released many truly excellent and important records. One of Page's first productions for the label was John Mayol's blues breakers version of I'm Your Witch Doctor, the first recording of former Yard By Derek Clapton with his new band.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Apparently Page had to have strong arguments with the engineer on that session to convince him that it was okay to allow something that distorted to go on the tape. Page and Clapton were friendly at the time, but as we heard in the episode on Cream, they fell out when Paige's home tape recordings of the two jamming blues instrumentals together, were overdubbed with extra instruments by members of the Rolling Stones, and stuck out by immediate on blues compilations. Page played on pretty much everything that came out of immediate in 1965 and 66.
Starting point is 01:38:54 from records by the Manchester-based Beach Boys' Sandalike Act to Factotums, one of several Beach Boys' Sandalike groups that Oldham signed to cut covers of Brian Wilson songs for which he owned the UK publishing rights, to Out of Time, the number one single by Page's old friend Chris Farlow, written by Jagger and Richards and produced by Jagger. Or at least the production is credited to Jagger. Greenslade, the arranger on the session, said that Jagger had been unable to get a decent vocal take out of Farlow, who, according to Greenslade, couldn't sing his way out of a paper bag, and that Oldham had later gone in and got Farlow to re-record the lead line by line
Starting point is 01:40:04 and pieced it together. But there was one session in particular in 1966, not for immediate, that would point the way to Jimmy Page's future. His friend Jeff Beck had, after joining the Yardbirds, played on a string of hits which for many people seemed to re-reel. define what rock guitar could be. While there were five people in the yard birds and all made musical contributions, especially Paul Samuel Smith, the group's bass player, who was the de facto producer of a lot of their records. As far as the casual audience was concerned, there were really only two people who mattered. One was Keith Ralph, the group's lead singer, who was never known as a particularly strong vocalist, but who did have a stage presence, while the other was Beck. So a plan had been
Starting point is 01:40:47 hatched that each yard bird would release a solo scene. single to let the different members of the group show their individual personalities and hopefully give them more of a profile with the public. The plan was quickly abandoned, with only Keith Ralph's Mr. Zero getting released, but Jeff Beck's solo track, Beck's Belarro, was eventually released as a B-side. Everything about that track is contentious. One of the few things everyone agrees about is that Mickey Most, the track's credited producer, had nothing to do with the track. He got production credit as part of a deal later made by the Arbirds manager Simon Napier Bell. Napier Bell always claims he produced it, but Page has always said it was him.
Starting point is 01:41:58 There has always been bad blood between Napier Bell and Page. Napier Bell would employ Paige sometimes as a session player when he was working as a music supervisor for films before going into pop management, though Page was always the second choice. Big Jim Sullivan was first choice, but he said later, I knew he was a brilliant technician and admired Bayleaders, but I never really liked. liked Jimmy Page. He had a sneer about him. At school the people who bullied me had this terrible frightening sneer and Jimmy Page reminded me of those people. Similarly, there are arguments between Paige and Beck as to who wrote the piece. Page has always claimed to have written
Starting point is 01:42:34 it himself but not gone into much detail. Beck, on the other hand, has described the writing as follows. I don't care what he says, I invented that melody. He hit those A major seven chords and the E minor seven chords, and I just started playing over the top of it. He was playing the ballero rhythm, and I played the melody on top of it, but then I said, Jim, you've got to break away from the belero beat, you can't go on like that forever. So he stopped it dead in the middle of the song, like the yard birds would do him for your love. Then we stuck that riff into the middle, and I went home and worked out the other bit. While the track was intended, as far as Napier Bell was concerned, as a way to showcase
Starting point is 01:43:11 Beck as a member of the yard birds, Beck himself had other ideas. There was word going round that Eric Clapton, Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker were planning to form a supergroup, and Beck was thinking along the same lines. Uncomfortable with the R. Bird's musicianship, he wanted to form a band with the best players in London, and he wanted Jimmy Page to be the rhythm guitarist. On vocals, the two of them wanted to get he the Steve Marriott of the Small Faces, or Steve Winwood of the Spencer Davis group. They sounded out Marriott but got the response from Don Arden,
Starting point is 01:43:43 the Small Faces gangsterish manager. How would you like to have a group with no fingers? They decided the session where they tested these musicians out were being an instrumental one. On keyboards they brought in Nicky Hopkins, the top session keyboard player in the UK. Well known enough for this that the kinks would, a few months later, release a track titled Session Man as a tribute of sorts to Hopkins.
Starting point is 01:44:22 For the Rhythm's bass player of them to the session. He's a session and fessie and... For the rhythm section, Beckett heard rumours that the Hoos bass player and drummer were thinking of quitting their band, and he invited the two of them to the session. Keith Moon came, though he came in disguise to stop people realising he was thinking of quitting the Who. But John Entwistle never showed up, so they quickly called in John Paul Jones because he was used to playing with Page, and Napier Bell also thought highly of him. There were various versions of what happened next,
Starting point is 01:45:05 but the general consensus version is that when one of them suggested making this lineup of musicians a permanent one, Keith Moon said, that would go down like a lead zeppelin. But soon after that session, Beck at least got his wish to play more with his old friend Jimmy Page. The oddbirds, by early 1966, were becoming more popular in the US than they were in the UK.
Starting point is 01:45:59 We heard last time how they were hugely influential on the MC5, But almost every garage rock band in the country in the mid-60s was more influenced by the Arbirds, and in particular by Jeff Beck's guitar playing, than any other band. In the UK, there was something of an arms race between Eric Clapton, Beck, Pete Townsend, Peter Green and Dave Davis to see who could be the most impressive blues-based electric guitarist, who could use feedback most creatively, and who could wow everyone else the most. that competition would die down in 1967, when Jimmy Hendricks hit London, and the rest of the pack realised they couldn't compete with him on his own terms,
Starting point is 01:46:38 and most of the innovation in British guitar playing for the few years after that would come from the acoustic side, with people incorporating finger-picking techniques learned from the guitarist atlas cousins, which Page would frequent, and which was the home of British folk-baroque guitar. But in 1966, Beck was the only one of these musicians who had a profile in the US, Clapton, after quitting the Yard Birds, had resolutely decided to avoid making pop singles and was developing a reputation both as a great guitarist and as someone who would strop out of bands straight away. Peter Green, like Clapton, was mostly known for playing with John Mayol,
Starting point is 01:47:15 who had no presence in the US. The kinks had been banned from playing the US because of a musician's union disagreement, and the Who wouldn't break through until Monterey. That left the Yard Birds as the only British band with the guitar hero of that kind. to have any presence in the US. In May of 1966, the same month as the Bex-Belero sessions, Bruce Johnston of the Beach Boys, who was in the UK to promote pet sounds,
Starting point is 01:47:40 told the record mirror about an occasion when the Ard Birds, supporting them, had had to borrow the Beach Boys' equipment, an anecdote which shows just how different the Arbirds were from any other group to play America up to that point, saying, Dennis plays drums so he doesn't understand amps, and Mike just sings so he doesn't understand what's going on
Starting point is 01:47:58 with amps either. Jeff Beck turns his guitar towards the amps to get feedback, and Dennis and Mike were going to pull the plugs out. They thought the yard birds were harming the equipment. I had to stop them and explain what was happening. They were getting really mad. That month also saw the release of two singles. Both co-produced by Sam and Napier Bell and Paul Samuel Smith after Napier Bell had taken over the Yard birds management from Georgio Gamelski, who, as his settlement, got all the rights to their recordings up to that point, meaning the group would never see any future royalties from their early recordings which had been repackaged at infinitum by every budget label in existence.
Starting point is 01:48:35 The first was Keith Ralph's solo single, part of the same push for the band members to record solo that had led to Bex Bolero, a version of the Bob Lynn song, Mr. Zero. not want to stay everyone's moving with places to go and mr zero he sadly stands still as the water goes one way the train goes another mr zero stands still and miss someone don't bother sadly for elf though germelski had been aware of his plan to record the song and produced a version by another singer susie clee which was released the same week neither made the top of the top of the 40, partly as a result of the competition. The other Yardbirds-related single released in May 1966
Starting point is 01:49:31 was Over Under Sideways Down, which made the top 10. That would also turn out to be their last UK hit single. That record was also notable because Jeff Beck played everything but the drums on the session. Chris Dreher, the group's rhythm guitarist, only did backing vocals, while Paul Samuel Smith was in the control room, by this point more interested in being a producer than in performing. Over Under Sideways Down was the single from the group's only UK studio album titled Just Yardbirds, but usually known as Roger the Engineer
Starting point is 01:50:36 after the caricature of engineer Roger Cameron by Chris Dreher on the cover. For half of that album, which Samwell Smith co-produced and which took only five days to record, Samwell Smith didn't play at all, being replaced by a bass player named Mick Fitzpatrick, who played with Simon's Triangle, a backing band that Napier Bell had put together to back the duo of Diane Farras and Nikki Scott, who he had been managing before the art birds.
Starting point is 01:51:02 As the album was recorded so quickly, even though it was made up entirely of supposed originals, most of these were jams on blues and R&B standards like Dust My Broom given different lyrics. So, for example, What Do You Want? This is very obviously derivative of Bow Diddley's, Who Do You Love? The album was decent enough,
Starting point is 01:51:48 but it was released in July 1966, right in the middle of the eight-week period that saw pet sounds, blonde-on-blond, freak out, the first incredible string band album, The Bird's Fifth Dimension, blues breakers with Eric Clapton, and then along comes the association and revolver all the least. Decent enough was not really going to do it went up against competition like that, although the album did make the UK top 20.
Starting point is 01:52:13 Given the lack of interest on Samuel Smith's part in playing bass anymore, and the disinterest in touring in Gemmell which was getting him down, it was unsurprising when, after a gig where Keith Ralph had got increasingly drunk, insulted the audience and falling into the drum kit. Samwell Smith decided he'd had enough of this pop-style lark and was going to quit the band and just become a record producer. Handily, Beck's friend Jimmy Page was also at that gig. And unlike the rest of the band, he had thought that Ralph's drunken antics were great.
Starting point is 01:52:42 He agreed to join the band on bass as a permanent replacement for Samwell Smith, who went on to a very successful career producing records mostly in the sensitive singer-songwriter vein. Samuel Smith produced almost all Cat Stevens big hits and records for Carly Simon, Christaburg, Paul Simon and Renaissance, among many others. Page joined on bass, even though that wasn't his instrument, but that wasn't the main problem with his joining the group. That was, rather, the enmity between him and Simon Napier Bell.
Starting point is 01:53:13 Napier Bell later described the meeting the two had after Page joined the group, saying, When he arrived, he had an enormous swollen lip. nobody knew who'd done it. He said some people had stopped her in the street and hit him. I remember thinking that if you're Jimmy Page, that could happen to you because of you're sneering. Jimmy's superciliousness was hard to take.
Starting point is 01:53:33 When Jimmy Page looked as nice as he does, maybe he thought he could get away with it. He came into the group, I said, we don't really get on. You're my manager, I want to see the contract, he said. I said, you won't. I'll take my percentage off four-fifths of the money and I won't manage you.
Starting point is 01:53:49 Because I knew he's, would want to pull a stunt and say the contract was terrible. As I've said before about Napier Bell, he's someone who is more of a raconteur than a trustworthy source. But it does seem likely both that Page and Napier-A-Bel didn't get on from the start, and that Paige, who had vastly more experience of the music business from the business side than the other yard-birds, would have found entirely reasonable fault with whatever contract Napier-Bel had them under. Page seems largely to have given up on session work after joining the hardbirds, though it's difficult to know for sure because some tracks he recorded earlier were
Starting point is 01:54:22 released afterwards. For example, Sunshine Superman by Donovan, on which Page played lead guitar on an arrangement by John Paul Jones, produced by Mickey Most, was not released until December 1966, though it was recorded a year earlier. There's also some question over exactly which sessions by which performers Paige played on. Page himself, for example, always clare. to have played on Donovan's hurdy-gurdy man from 1968, and Donovan has sometimes backed him up on that. But apparently the session logs for that track don't have him there,
Starting point is 01:55:27 and Jones, who was on that session as well, says it was Alan Parker. And he would occasionally turn up for the odd session just to keep his hand in. For example, it's definitely Paige doing some relatively rare session lead work on Joe Cocker's hit version of With a Little Help from my Friends from 1968. But in general, Page was now putting session work behind him, and going back out on the road with a band, just like in the old days with Neil Christian. Some have suggested that Page's sudden changing career
Starting point is 01:56:32 might have been caused by trauma. Around this time, his parents split, when it turned out that his father had for years been keeping a second family in secret, and certainly Paige seems rather quickly to have turned from being a polite introvert to being the kind of provocateur who wore an iron cross on stage,
Starting point is 01:56:48 as did Beck around the same time. And here it's possibly worth noting that Chris Farlow, Page's long-time friend ran a stall that sold Nazi memorabilia and only Nazi memorabilia as a sideline from his day job as a pop star it's likely though that even though he was no longer a session player
Starting point is 01:57:05 Paige was still keeping up with the records that were being released he had been unusual among session players for doing that while he was one he would say that one of his selling points to record producers was that as he was younger than many players he knew how to get the sounds on the records that teenagers were listening to in a way that men in their 30s didn't. But even among other players of his generation, someone like John Paul Jones would say later
Starting point is 01:57:28 that at the end of the 60s, he only owned two rock albums, pet sounds and revolver, with the rest of his listening being to soul and jazz. Page almost certainly, for example, listened to Making Time by the Creation, produced by his old friend Shel Talmy, which featured Eddie Phillips playing his guitar with a violin.
Starting point is 01:58:16 Page soon started doing the same himself, though he always claimed that he had got the idea, not from the creation, but from David McCallum Sr., the violinist father of the man from Uncle Star. Apart from a handful of gigs, Paige's first major work with the Arbirds was on their next single. There's some confusion about exactly when the basic track for Happenings 10 years time ago was recorded. But the most likely date is sometime between the 26th of July, 1966 and the 3rd of August, when the group went on their first US tour with Page on bass. but Page wasn't on bass for the session.
Starting point is 01:58:52 Chris Dreher had largely stopped playing guitar in the studio by this point, used to having Beck play both parts, and he is not on the track at all. The initial sessions consisted of Keith Welf and Jim McCarty, who, according to most accounts, wrote the song, though it's credited to all five band members, and Beck later sometimes said it was mostly his work, on lead vocals and drums and harmonies respectively, with Page on guitar,
Starting point is 01:59:15 and Page's session player friend John Paul Jones on bass. Beck wasn't at this initial session because he was ill with tonsillitis, an illness that also led the group to pull out of a festival appearance. The same festival were cream, with the Yardbirds' former guitarist Clapton, made their debut, and this was widely seen as the Yardbirds being scared of the competition. Samwell Smith and Napier Bell produced, and Beck had a guitar and spoken word mutterings under his solo after the group returned from their tour, and the result is often considered the group's greatest single
Starting point is 01:59:47 and one of the classics of British psychedelia. One possible influence the track may have had that I've not seen anyone else suggest is the start of Jeff Beck's guitar solo, where he imitates a police siren. A year later, John Lennon would base the melody of I Am the Walrus around a similar siren imitation, and while it's entirely plausible that he was independently inspired, I can't help wondering if he had this track in the back of his mind.
Starting point is 02:01:12 Happenings 10 years' time ago doesn't sound revolution, now, but that's because we're hearing it out of the context of the time. It sounds exactly like a lot of singles released in 1967, but it was released in late 1966, several months ahead of its time. Possibly too much ahead of its time. It didn't make the top 40 in the UK, and it was only a moderate hit in the US, though its influence has been cited by hundreds of bands since.
Starting point is 02:01:38 In between recording the basic track and the guitar overdubs, the group toured the US. Beck's health problems kept recurring supposedly he had his tonsils out at one point on the tour though in later years he admitted that along with the actual physical illness he was also dealing with mental health problems and a general weariness with being in the band with Dreya clearly not able to fill in for the band's resident guitar god
Starting point is 02:02:01 and with audiences primed to expect feedback-based musical pyrotechnics the only solution when Beck was too ill to play many dates he ended up flying home with 12 shows still to go on the tour, was for Page to switch to lead guitar and play Beck's lead part, and for Dreher to switch to bass on those dates. Soon that became the band's standard line-up, and on the dates when Beck could play, rather than Page playing rhythm guitar,
Starting point is 02:02:27 the two played the lead lines in stereo and then played dueling solos. Very few recordings of this dual-lead version of the band exist, but one that does is one of the group's most famous, and it exists because of a trick Simon Napierbel played on a friend. Michelangelo Antonioni wanted to include footage of The Who performing live in his film set in Swinging London, blow-up, and particularly wanted Pete Townsend smashing his guitar to be included in the film. But Napier Bell was friends with the Who's co-manager, Kit Lambert,
Starting point is 02:02:58 and told Lambert to ask for a ridiculously large fee and for the band's management to have control over the editing of their section of the film. Antonioni, of course, refused, and then Napier Bell offered his own band as a cut-price rate to get them this valuable exposure. Beck objected to having to smash a guitar, partly because that was Townsh-Engstick, and partly because he was someone who cared a great deal about his instruments, but he eventually did it for the film, and once he did, it became a regular part of the act for a while. The song recorded for the film was titled Stroll On,
Starting point is 02:03:29 and the songwriting was credited to the Yardbirds, but it's just their cover of the Johnny Burnett Rock and Roll Trio's version of Train Kept A Rowling, with the lyrics altered so they could claim the credit for themselves. To promote the release of the Happening's 10 years term ago single, the group went on a brief tour of the UK. Unfortunately for them, the bill they were on put them between the Rolling Stones, as headliners, and the Icon Tina Turner review, possibly the most exciting act then performing.
Starting point is 02:04:27 They were never going to go down well in that position, and according to Andrew Oldham, that was deliberate. As we heard in the sympathy for the devil episodes, Oldham said Mick Keith and I had decided there were cocky little upstarts had had one more hit than they deserved and this sandwiching between the headliners
Starting point is 02:04:43 should pay to their career it didn't help that the group's performance in London at the Albert Hall which had legendarily bad acoustics for certain types of music there's an old joke that it's the only venue where a composer could be guaranteed to hear their work twice was both the one that got reviewed
Starting point is 02:04:59 and the one that was by all accounts their worst of the tour The yard birds were, by the consensus of the British press, yesterday's news. Happenings ten years' time ago was them trying to hop on this new psychedelic bandwagon that was so fashionable, but was clearly just a novelty record. After that, they went on another American tour, this time mostly as part of a Dick Clark package tour, with a bunch of ill-matched acts including Brian Highland and Sam the Shammon the Faroes. They did, though, also play some shows outside of the package tour, including one notable one in early November
Starting point is 02:05:34 when they were supported by the Velvet Underground with Paige's old acquaintance Nico. The group were particularly fascinated by the song I'm Waiting for the Man, and depending on which version of the story you read, they either got hold of the band's debut album as soon as it came out or actually asked Lou Reed for the chords and lyrics,
Starting point is 02:05:51 and were soon incorporating it into their live sets, often as part of extended versions of I'm a man or smokestack lightning. Before the tour had been going long, Beck's illness returned, and on top of that he was sick of touring for little money, and he was increasingly resenting Jimmy Page as playing. At first, Beck had wanted to play with another guitarist of equal skill,
Starting point is 02:06:41 but now he was finding it was impossible to be the sole star of the group. He once again pulled out of the tour and went off to rest, and this time the rest of the group decided they'd had enough and sacked him. This meant also losing their management. Napier Bell decided that Jeff Beck was the only one of the band he actually got along with, and also the real talent. He kept Beck on as a client, and handed the rest of the group over to Mickey Most's organisation to manage. At first it seemed like Napier Bell had made the correct decision. Most became Beck's producer too. Most was a proven hitmaker, having produced hits for
Starting point is 02:07:14 Donovan, Herman's Hermits, The Animals and many others. Beck had some trouble putting his own bands line up together, it would change quite often over the next few months. But as far as most was concerned, if you made a record you just took the star and put him in front of a bunch of sessions, musicians and gave them a song by a hit songwriter. So the first single by the Jeff Beck group, which used Beck's Bolero as its B-side, had Beck with John Paul Jones on bass and string arrangements, and Clemcateenie, the former drummer with the tornadoes turned-top session drummer. Beck wasn't a singer, his new band had a lead singer, in fact.
Starting point is 02:07:50 But most didn't care. If the single said Jeff Beck on the label, Jeff Beck was going to be the singer, no matter how badly he sang. and his lead singer could just add backing vocals. Most commercial instincts worked. Highho Silver Lining made the top 20. The Jeff Beck Group would go on to have three more hit singles, one more with Beck on lead vocals,
Starting point is 02:08:43 an instrumental, and Go-Goo Barabajaggle Love Is Hot, credited to Donovan and the Jeff Beck Group, with Donovan on lead vocals. Rod Stewart would get to sing lead on album tracks, but he'd never get to sing lead on a Jeff Beck group single. By that point though, Napier Bell had stopped managing Beck too. He said later,
Starting point is 02:09:04 What I hadn't allowed for was that Jeff didn't really rehearse his first group properly. He formed a group with Rod Stewart and Ronnie Wood, and I thought they couldn't go wrong. They opened up for the small faces on tour at the Astoria in Finsbury Park, and it all went wrong. Rod came on stage with his flies undone, and the curtain fell on top of the guitarist, and then somebody from the small faces pulled the plugs out,
Starting point is 02:09:25 so the power went off. It was a dismal concert, and I couldn't. snap my fingers and come up with a solution. The real problem was they hadn't rehearsed. The trouble was, I was the same age as them and felt too intimidated by them to tell them what to do. Napier Bell decided to get out of the management business altogether. Most's organisation therefore ended up with both the Yardbirds and the Jeff Beck Group, but while he produced their recordings, for management he put someone else in charge, his colleague Peter Grant. Grant had known most since the two of them had worked at the Two Eyes back in the 1950s.
Starting point is 02:10:00 The two eyes had been the hotbed of the early British rock and roll scene, and most of the first wave of British rock stars had been discovered there. Most had been working as a waiter and Grant as a bouncer, before most moved to South Africa and became a pop star there before returning to Britain as a producer. In the meantime, Grant, a very large physically imposing man, has had a brief career as a professional wrestler, including some televised bout, and had tried to get into acting
Starting point is 02:10:27 but had never got much beyond bit parts, a couple of lines in The Saint or Dixon of Doc Green, a tiny role in Cleopatra, a job working as Robert Morley's stand-in. But he used the earnings from these jobs and his show-biz connections to get another role in the industry. He bought a minibus and started driving people at the Shadows
Starting point is 02:10:47 or the comedians Mike and Bernie Winters to their gigs. From this, he got a job as a tour manager with Don Arden, the gangster who was one of Britain's biggest managers and promoters. Grant's job was to drive American stars touring the UK to their gigs, keep them sober enough to go on stage, and get the money from the venues, with violence if necessary. Sometimes this required a certain amount of imagination. Jean Vincent in particular was by this time totally out of control. Grant later said he used to drive cars at me, and he was well known for threat. threatening people with knives and guns.
Starting point is 02:11:22 He would daub racist graffiti on the dressing room doors of black acts on the same bill, and he was badly alcoholic. One show he also hurt his one good leg and couldn't stand up, but Grant knew that the contract said that he had to go on stage and sing. So at showtime the curtain drew back and there was Jean Vincent, singing his opening song, Bebopalula. Except he only got that far, then swore and collapsed. then swore and collapsed, falling onto his face and being carried off unconscious by roadies.
Starting point is 02:11:55 Grant had propped him up by sticking a mic stand up his jacket. They got their money. But while Grant sometimes resorted to these measures, less difficult acts in turn found him a pleasure to work with. The Everly brothers, for example, said in the 90s that he was the best road manager we ever had, and he would be fiercely loyal to his acts. Soon he branched out, he started working with Mike Jeffries and Mickey Most on the animals' career. becoming effectively their co-manager. He toured the US with the animals and with Herman's Hermit, another of most acts.
Starting point is 02:12:27 He also became sole manager of a handful of acts, like the Shee Trinity, one of the first all-female rock groups to play their own instruments. And, rather more successfully, the new vaudeville band, who started out as a studio creation of Jeff Stevens, with John Carter of Carter Lewis and the Southerner's singing lead, but then had a touring band with a different lead singer assembled by Grant after their single Winchester Cathedral became a massive worldwide hit.
Starting point is 02:13:53 The new Vorderville band were briefly an international phenomenon. Famously Winchester Cathedral won the best contemporary rock and roll recording Grammy, beating out the other shortlisted entrance last train to Clarksville, Eleanor Rigby, Good Vibrations, Monday Monday and Cherish. For a while, the band were touring America enough that Grant had to take on an assistant, Richard Cove, specifically to manage US touring operations. Eventually, Most and Grant had decided to pool their resources and form a management and production company R.A.K.,
Starting point is 02:14:25 which wasn't really much of a company. It was a shared office space which the two men both used to work on different acts, on the top floor of her building in Oxford Street in London. On the bottom floor were shops, then on the first floor was Chrysalis Records, whose publicist, John Lennon's old friend Bill Harry, would also become R.A.K.'s publicist simply because he was working in the same building,
Starting point is 02:14:48 and they were in and out of each other's offices so often. And on the second floor was Island Records. As Grant later described it, R.A.K. Music Management was the name of the company, but names are not important in this business. People don't say, let's get in touch with R.A.K. They say, let's go see Peter Grant. It's the personal bit that matters. At one point, just Mickey Most, myself and three girls worked in those officers, and yet we had four LPs in the top 20. As Most was far more interested in the production side of things than in management, Peter Grant now became the de facto manager of the Yardbirds,
Starting point is 02:15:24 as well as of Jeff Beck, where Page had been Napier Bell's least favourite member of the group. For Grant, he was the one who really mattered, the obvious leader of this line-up of the band. Most's first priority was for the group to record a new single to get them back on the charts. or at least for Jimmy Page and Keith Ralph to. Most's technique was to get the records made as quickly as possible,
Starting point is 02:15:47 with the stars performing material that most had picked for them. They could choose the B-sides themselves if they behaved. And so the first single he produced for them, Little Games, was a song written by two songwriters for hire at the start of their career. Harold Spearrow went on to co-write hits such as Long Live Love and Nice One Cyril, while Phil Wainman would later go on to produce hits for the Bay City Rollers, among others. But their other most prominent credited in 1967 was two songs for a children's album by Mike and Bernie Winters. Only Ralph, as the lead vocalist, and Page, with his session experience, were trusted to play on the single.
Starting point is 02:16:26 Rather than Dreher and McCarty, the rhythm section was Dougie Wright, the former drummer from the John Barry Seven, and on bass, the man who was at the time working his most musical director, session player John Paul Jones, who also wrote the arrangement for the Chalows on the track. Little games are for little boys. I'm growing up and changing all my toys. Most hopes for a new chart success were in...
Starting point is 02:17:13 Most hopes for a new chart success were in. vain though. It didn't hit the top 40 in the UK or US, though it and subsequent singles hit the lower reaches of the charts in some other countries. This, and the lack of success of their subsequent singles, would shape Peter Grant's thoughts about how to run a band. According to Napier Bell, who remained in touch with Grant and asked him occasionally how his old charges were doing, the funny thing was, with Mickey Most, chart success with singles was all important, yet Peter thought that if you put a single out you were competing to get into the chart and if you don't get into the chart you are then a failure if you don't put a single out you
Starting point is 02:17:52 can't be a failure maybe working with mickey had made him think about this because charts ruled mickey most's life or perhaps jimmy page had given him the idea either way he and jimmy worked well together peter always thanked me for giving him jimmy page and earning him 200 million pounds after the little game single was released but before it became obvious that it was not going to be a commercial success. Most took the group into the studio to record their second and final studio album. Little Games the album was recorded in three days, and this time the group were allowed to play on their own record, as most didn't care at all about albums. As far as he was concerned, albums didn't matter, and singles were the only things pop bands were good for. Almost all the tracks on the
Starting point is 02:18:38 album have the songwriting credited to some or all of the band members. Almost none of them are actually written by the band members. Compare for example Muddy Waters version of the blues standard rolling and tumbling. To bring up morning, to morning, to drink no right, to drinking muddy To Drinking Muddy Water, credited to McCarty, Dreya, Page and Ralph. Or compare Davy Graham's radical rearrangement of the traditional song She Moved Through the Fair, titled in his version She Moved Through the Bazaar slash Blue Raga. With the instrumental White Summer, credited solely to Page, and featuring no other yardbirds on the track,
Starting point is 02:20:42 though it also features an uncredited oboe player. The percussion is played not by McCarty, but by Dudley Moore's drummer Chris Karen. And so on. It's particularly fitting that one of the tracks credited to the Yardbirds as songwriters, a recording of an old Memphis jug band song, is titled Stealing Stealing Stealing. Little Games is both the strongest of the Arbird's small number of albums
Starting point is 02:21:34 and one that the group themselves always dismissed. Page, who had always been happy working with most in his session days, felt differently about him as a producer when Paige was one of the credited artists. Suddenly most's habit of just cutting one take of a track in declaring it good enough was less enjoyable. Most attention to detail in album tracks led to things like
Starting point is 02:21:55 the last track of the album, Little Soldier Boy, featuring not the trumpet solo that was planned, but Keith Ralph scatting an idea for the part that the trumpet player was meant to overdub. The floor was strewn in bits of fur and stuff and building kits. The soldier boy was feeling high, smoke clouds rolled across the sky,
Starting point is 02:22:18 The record company decided not to even bother releasing the album in the UK, because as far as they were concerned, the Yardbirds, who, a year earlier, had been having regular top ten hits, were now past it. It was released in the US, where the band still had a reputation, but it went no higher than number 80 on the album charts. Jeff Beck, with his recent top 20 hit, was interviewed by Hit Parader and Scipation.
Starting point is 02:22:56 said, with all the good groups that there are about now, you've got to make the move one step ahead rather than sticking it out and going down with a sinking ship. And that for me is what the yard birds are. It's really amazing to think that only a year ago all the sickening DJs and writers were raving about the fantastic yard bird sound. It was all Jeff Beck this and Keith Welff's great heart playing that. And then it just goes zonk, right down the drain.
Starting point is 02:23:21 Undeterred, the group went on tour in the US again, and on one show they were supported by D. Jake Holmes, who closed his set with his song Dazed and Confused, a song about which he later said, I didn't think it was that special, but it went over really well, it was our set closer. The kids loved it, as did the yard birds, I guess. It stays it go. Am I being choosed? Well, I'd just like to know.
Starting point is 02:23:55 Give me a clue as to where I am at. I feel like a mouse and you act like a cat. Jim McCarty was impressed enough by the track, which Holmes had released as a single the month before the gig in question, but he and Jimmy Page both went out and bought copies of Holmes' album. The song was soon added to the R-birds' live set and became a highlight of it. But by now there was a split between the R-birds on record, a Mickey Most pop band, and the R-birds on stage,
Starting point is 02:25:06 who were stretching out more inspired by West Coast Records like Loves de Capo, an album Ralph raved about and which was itself very obviously influenced by the Arbbirds themselves. There was also, though, a growing split between Melph and McCarty, who were becoming increasingly influenced by softer music like salmon and Garfunkel,
Starting point is 02:25:25 and who were both big users of cannabis and LSD, especially Ralph, and Paige and Dreher, who didn't use any drugs at this time and were more interested in making louder, heavier music, adapting the Arbird's old freak-out style to the new world of power trios and louder amplification. The Ardbirds didn't record another album, though there were various attempts at sessions over the next year or so.
Starting point is 02:26:16 Rolf said of this period, In the end, we were just a group being sent out to promote Mickey Mose's Records. And there were sometimes not even Mickey Mose's Records. The group's next single was a cover of Manfred Mann's hit, Ha Ha Said the Clown, which had been a hit in the UK, so the Yardbirds version was only released in countries where that hadn't been released. Ralph was the only member of the group to appear on the record, the backing track for which was actually recorded by session in New York
Starting point is 02:26:44 at the end of a session for the Circle, the group best known for Red Rubber Ball. The keyboard player on the track is supposedly Rick Nielsen, later of cheap trick, though at the time Nielsen was based in Chicago while the track was cut in New York, so it seems likely it's another musician of the same name. That backing track was left over from the Circle session,
Starting point is 02:27:32 and the producer sent it over to Mickey Mee. Most, who overdubbed Ralph's voice on it and stuck it out as a yard-bird single. The producer in question was Charles Colello. The group's third single of 1967 was a most production, and at least had two yard-birds on it. Their version of Harry Nilsson's Ten Little Indians, a rewrite of the old nursery song with lyrics based on the Ten Commandments, featured page on guitar, Ralph on vocals, Clemcateen on drums, and John Paul Jones on bass and orchestral arrangements. That was another one that didn't get a And once again didn't chart in the US
Starting point is 02:28:44 The group returned to the US yet again to tour to promote the single But McCarty had a breakdown and couldn't take going on tour again The group cancelled a gig, got in a substitute rumour for a few more and then McCarty flew over but was soon hospitalized. By that point the group had pretty much decided to give up. McCarty and Ralph wanted to make gentle music like Simon and Garfunkel. Ralph was increasingly annoyed with Page. None of them wanted to continue working with Mickey Most.
Starting point is 02:29:13 But there were contractual obligations to fulfil. The group put out one final single, Good Night Sweet Josephine, a song about a sex worker by the same writers as Ha Ha Said the Clown, with Ralph singing and Page, John Paul Jones, Clemcateen and piano player Nicky Hopkins providing the backing. Knowing that this was likely to be the group's last tour, the record label arranged for a recording of one of the final shows for a prospective live album. The group refused to allow it to be released, but it eventually came out on Page's own record label in 2017.
Starting point is 02:30:40 After that tour, there were some desultry attempts at recording something to replace the live album. They recorded a handful of tracks included on that 2017 release with page producing, but no more complete. Interestingly, there was one song, knowing that I'm losing you,
Starting point is 02:31:08 for which the 2017 release didn't contain any vocals, which is very odd because there definitely was a lead vocal recorded for that track with a full lyric. One which Dreher, McCarty, and Keith Ralph's sister Jane all say that Ralph, and not anybody else, definitely wrote.
Starting point is 02:31:24 Luckily for us, there are versions of that track with the vocal uploaded on YouTube. Hmm. But while the odd birds were trying to figure out how, or even if, they could make their lifestyle work in the studio, their thunder had essentially been stolen by their old guitarist, whose first album came out and made the top 20. Truth was produced by Mickey Most and featured Beck's Belero and a few nods to Beck's past with the Arbirds,
Starting point is 02:32:22 starting out with a remake of Shapes of Things. It also featured Paige's older players Carter Lewis on one track, and several tracks featured John Paul Jones on organ, like this cover of a Willie Dixon song. Beck had proven the commercial viability of Paige's vision of what the Arbords should be, but he'd also got there first. The group split into two halves. Ralph and McCarty formed a duo,
Starting point is 02:33:15 together, recording a couple of singles in their gentle music style, produced by Samuel Smith. They then went on to form the progressive rock band Renaissance, along with Ralph's sister Jane, with Samwell Smith again producing their first album. Both quit that band during the recording of its second album though.
Starting point is 02:34:35 They went on to various other projects, with McCarty eventually joining a semi-reformed yard birds in the 80s, which he continues with to this day as the only remaining original member. Ralph sadly died in 1976, getting electrocuted by an improperly grounded guitar. But with Ralph and McCarty gone, Paige and Dreher, and their manager Peter Grant,
Starting point is 02:34:57 who saw Paige as the real talent of the group were left with the yard birds name Paige's vision for a heavier rock band and, crucially, a bunch of gigs had already been booked to play. There was only one thing for it. Page and Dreher were going to have to form a new yard birds. A history of rock music
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