Actions Detrimental with Denny Hamlin - The Bridesmaid Once Again

Episode Date: September 11, 2023

Legacy MC names John Hunter Nemecheck their driver for the 42 car next season. Xfinity Series regular season ends. NASCAR 101 on what exaclty Ty Majeski got punished for. Martin Truex Jr has bad luck and in jeopardy of being eliminated from the playoffs. What happened with the restart at the end of the race. And, why NASCAR needs to start policing the restarts. Expectations for Tyler Reddick now that he won in Kansas. Plus, NASCAR pickleball update.DraftKings State-Specific Problem Gambling Information:In Massachusetts, call [phone] or visit gamblinghelplinema.org, In New York, call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369). In Tennessee and Kansas, Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). In West Virginia, Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.1800gambler.net. All games regulated by the West Virginia Lottery. Please play responsibly. In partnership with Hollywood Casino at Charles Town Races. In Connecticut, Help is available for problem gambling call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Can I get an updated post-Kansas pickleball driver rankings since I heard? Yeah, I'm last. I stink. We should go play that game that we never. Well, I mean, you still wouldn't beat me. Okay. The following is a production of Dirtymo Media. Hey, guys, welcome to Action Stitch Remental.

I'm Denny Hamlin, draw the number 11, Camry for Joe Gibbs Racing, and co-owner of the winner. Tyler Reddick of 2311 Racing and Bubble Wallet. Welcome to the We're not in Kansas anymore version of Actions Determental. As you know, Birch Skull Group is our presenting sponsor.

You can get your free info kit by Texan Denny to 9898989. Love Kansas. Had some great success there. Almost did it again. But I am a bridesmaid once again. Fun race. We had a good off

the track. week worth of news going on. Let's kind of dig into that a little bit. We had John Hunter Neimancheck being named as driver with a 42 car. What's your thoughts on that, Jared? Good for John Hunter. It's interesting seeing that car driven by Carson Hosephar right now because Josefar looks pretty good in it where that car did not look very good with Noah in it the last for many races. So I think it'll be, it'll be interesting for, for John Hunter, also considering that those guys are going to Toyota next year. Yeah, I think that John Hunter's definitely deserved his second shot in the Cup series. When he came in, um, he was, you know, very, very young. It was

probably what, three years ago or so, three or four years ago he was in Cup. Uh, restarted his career, went back down to the truck series. One of a bunch of races there. Um, is, um, is, you know, went to the Xfinity series and now is winning a bunch of races there. Which I have to imagine, by the way, takes a lot of confidence is the right word. But when you're in the cup series, right, you're racing a cup car, then to say, okay, I'm going to take a couple steps back, go back to the truck series and hopefully I can reinvent myself and get back to the cup series. That doesn't happen too often.

Yeah, I think a lot of drivers get caught up in. I've got to race on Sundays. and my advice to drivers that, you know, maybe are struggling in whatever division they're in is that winning at a lower division far exceeds being invisible in a higher series. I think that it was a very good strategic move on John Hunter's part. Obviously with the cup experience that he had, going back down to the truck series, he was going to have an advantage over the field. He'd raced against really, really, you know, the best of the best, stock car drivers.

and so it made him better. So when he went back down there, one races, you're like, okay, yeah, he is, he is, you know, he is pretty good, right? And the equipment means so much in the Cup Series and that you just never really know until you go out, go down there,

and you get a fair shake, and he's certainly done that, made the most of his opportunities. And, yeah, my, my, certainly my advice, if you're trying to make it up the ranks, is make sure you're succeeding regularly, at the level that you're at before you start taking a jump. A lot of drivers get caught up in the opportunity of, well, I can get in this ride in the

Externity Series, but, you know, I'm like, what number is that? Like, I don't, I haven't, you know, it's just going to be really hard for people to be able to see your abilities, you know, if your car is inferior, right? So then taking a step down and being in a more competitive ride is, in my mind, the better, better way to continue to advance and impress those who might be looking. Yeah, it keeps you at the front of everyone's mind, right? Yeah, regardless, if you're winning or you're in the headlines on Friday or Saturday, it far exceeds, far exceeds, not even knowing that you're in a cup race on Sunday.

If you're given a cup ride, though, nowadays, don't you just have to take it? Well, why? That's what I'm saying is don't do this. that because I know it's very hard. There's only 36 spots. What if there's not another option? Yeah. Yeah, you have to weigh all those options, right?

And you know, you kind of got to know what the landscape is of free agency, you know, when are key rides going to be coming available, knowing when drivers, contracts are going to be done. All those are big factors, certainly, in any decision you might make. But I'm glad to see this one going to pan out for John Hunter. Obviously, the switch to Toyota next year for legacy. should be a great move for them and I think that we're going to see him be far more competitive than he was

the first time around. Yeah, speaking of him, he did win the X-Finity race on Saturday in which we had a bunch of shake-up in the X-FINI playoffs. Yeah, we did. It was, this was a cutoff race and I agree with Dale Jr. that you kind of get confused on who's where

the trucks are in the playoffs, now Cups in playoff. Exfini's not. Like, yeah, if we can get all those schedules align a little bit more, that would be great. But it was a cutoff race this weekend at Kansas for Xfinity. You know, the key guys that, you know, kind of run up front regularly or run, you know, pretty consistently. You had Brandon Jones not make it and Riley Herps not make it. You know, the Brandon Jones is really interesting to me because, you know, I thought that he really really was on a good path when he was with JGR and he certainly was more competitive. I'm not really

sure why, you know, the nine car shouldn't really be a step back in equipment, which, you know, it's kind of uneducated to say. I'm not really sure, but he's just not, it feel like he's regressed a little in performance this year. I mean, it's, you know, I would say the numbers would support that, so it's not totally unfounded to say that. But it is. is surprising to not make the playoffs and in the nine car for junior meresports all the junior meresports cars you would think are capable of winning a weekend week-in-week-out basis um justin algeyer continues to be the flagship guy um sam mayors had his moments and josh berry is i don't he's been kind of middle of the road as far you know he's not really

leading the pack of J.R.M. cars much any of the weeks, but he's very solid. So, yeah, it certainly comes to surprise that Brandon Jones didn't make it. Riley Herpes, on the other hand, I do feel like, you know, it's tough to say this because he didn't make the playoffs, but I think Riley Herps has gotten better. I certainly have seen stuff in his racecraft that makes me believe that he has gotten better at his craft at a race car driver. you know, they just didn't work out. They looked like they were in a pretty good position early in that race and, you know, had, I believe they had a tire blowout or something of that nature.

But they had issues, went laps down, got it back, and then they didn't quite fix the car as good as they could have, and then his race was over. You can't come back for multiple laps down multiple times. So he made a charge back through, but, it didn't work out for him. So I'm still, you know, looking forward to what Riley can do in the future because I think that he's certainly shown that he's, he's improving. That's a good thing. He's improving. But on the other hand of this, you had, you know, many others, you know, locked themselves in. I guess one of the bubble guys would be Parker Clearman. Really happy for Parker. He's

huge fan of Parker's and his racecraft. I think he does a great job. He always gets the most out of the equipment that he's got. Not that we're downing his equipment whatsoever, but it's certainly, this is a fairly new team. So you're going up against some of the powerhouses

of the Xenity series and beating him and putting him himself in position to make the playoffs, which he did. That's a great it says a lot about Parker and his ability as a race car driver. So I really appreciate him as a person as well. A guy works really, really hard. You'll see him on most TV shows or working for NBC on

Sundays and doing talk shows during the week. And he still finds a way to, and also does a podcast with Landon Castle. Yeah. I think there's a Money Lapp. If you want to tune into the Money Lab guys, they're great to hear. But yeah, he's done a great job and he stepped up to the plate this weekend and performed great. Yeah, a Swiss Army Knife type of guy. Yeah, he definitely is. for sure. Who does your predictions for the Xfinity championship for if you were just look at it right now? Let's see.

I mean, obviously John Hunter is in there, right? He's going to be really tough to beat. Austin Hill, you know, I think he, while he's not a guy that just goes up there and leads a bunch of laps and dominates races, he always manages to get the best. out of his finishes. And so I would, you know, I'd say based on speed, you're going to have, you know, the 20, the 7, the 21 maybe in there. Give me some, give me some more names.

You've got, let's just run through the X-FINI playoffs. You got John Hunter, Austin Hill, Justin Algeyer, Cole Custer. these are in order by the way of playoff points Cole Custer Sam Mayer, Chandler Smith, Josh Barry, Sheldon Creed, Sammy Smith, Jeff Burton, Daniel Hemrick, and Parker Cleggerman. Okay. All right,

so if we're doing this off of speed, I think there's a clear cut for you've got the 7 of Argyr, the 20 of Nemechek, the 21 of Hill, and the double zero of Custer. I think that those guys stand apart as far as consistently being the fastest

in the series. Now, you have others such as you know you'll have same air have some weeks where he shows flashes and he'll be the fastest jrm car or the fastest car on the track josh berry uh not as much but still he has certain racetracks that fit his style really well um i think they do they i think they probably run martinsville which would be a great track for him uh with an opportunity to get into the final four those are the next guys in my in my thoughts but it never goes chalk

it never goes how you think it is I asked on this episode a few weeks ago when it comes to the cup playoffs who in the top eight is not going to make it zero said Martin Truex now he he could go out there and run really well Bristol and put himself above but you just never know

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So this segment is presented by the Birch Gold Group. If you want to learn more about Birch Gold Group, you can get a free info kit by texting Denny to 98, 98, 98. Well, NASCO 101 this week, I want to talk about the penalty that Ty Majeski's team got. NASCAR this year, we helped. change this, where they view, they are now showing off all the illegal parts or pieces that they might deem, you know, that warranted a penalty. Love it. NASCAR keep doing it. They showed basically a valve stem cap that basically when you screw it on, it leaks air out of the tire, right? So it's letting air out of the tire. And on short track,

You know, big tracks not as much, but it's still a factor. You know, it is a huge advantageous way of getting more grip in your car or truck in the long run. Because what we want to educate you on is why would you want to let air out of the tire, right? If you're in your street car, you're letting air out of your tire, you're just going to get a big warning light. And you've got to go to the gas station and fill it up. Well, in racing, you want to have your air pressures at, you know, the tires make an, optimum amount of grip at a certain air pressure, right? So it's a combination of the pressure and the heat that it builds, right? So we start on short tracks, our tires very, very low in air

because as it builds heat and we start racing, the temperature goes up, the air pressure of the tire goes up. And what we try to do is, you know, basically make the tire through the course of the run average out its optimum air pressure. So it will always end above the optimum pressure that it makes grip at. Right. So if we can leak air out of it, it allows twofold, two things to happen. A, you can be faster in the short run because you can put more air in it to start so you're quicker to get going.

And then if it bleeds air out, you're staying in that range. You're staying in that range. You're much, much longer. And even, you know, at the end of a run when the tires are hot and slick and they've built so much air pressure, I mean, you're sliding all around. If all the teams could just go into the pits at the end of a, let's just call it a 30-lap run on a short track and take two pounds of air out of all the tires, they would run significantly faster. So why don't you bleed that air out to start to make it in there? It's because, A, you will be so slow on the front end, you'll be terrible. and you risk damaging the tire, the internals of the tire, and then you risk blowing it. So bleeding tires has been around for a very long time.

It used to be, you know, it was legal in the late mile stock short track days. We used to run actual bleeders that would, you know, you hear them popping off whenever they get to a certain temperature. Boom, they pop off and you hear whistling sounds. Time Majestis team, Joe Shear Jr., who's very, very, he's got a rep for this kind of stuff you know listen I didn't I'm just don't beat up the middleman I'm just

reporting the news here you know they got busted putting this valve stem cap on that it almost looked like a little welded just a zip of weld on top of it so where when you screw the cap down

it pushes down on that valve and allows it to leak air where were this team like it was whistling or making a noise while going through inspection. So it's hard for me to really justify what the hell these guys were thinking.

But they just dominated the, they just dominated the two previous short tracks. What in the hell were they doing with that thing in the third race that meant nothing to them? first of all, I think you should be hammered if you get caught doing this. Their penalty was small considering how illegal. It made it worth it.

Oh, I think it was worth it. You got your race win? Yeah, they got the race win. So that's irrelevant. So the more concerning thing is that, you know, how long have they been doing it? Who knows, right? I think it just,

when you dominate the races like they did, you're going to throw up a red flag to the NASCAR officials anyway. And it just was neglect on their part to just assume that they were going to just keep getting away with this. So good for NASCAR for bussing them. It obviously is a really bad look for the team. And hopefully, like we talked about, you know, showing it off like this,

shames the team enough to deter them from doing that. Right? I mean, because this is an egregious thing. This isn't an accident. It wasn't, you know, I didn't mean to, like it was a deliberate, egregious way to cheat. And that's a tough word. But it's honestly, you know, if you do it, that's, that's your fault. What's your overall view on cheating in general, right? Because obviously this sport has a long history of pushing the boundaries. Like if we found out after the championship that Ty Majeski won and they were doing this all through the playoffs, right? And they had this advantage. Would you? look down upon that championship? Absolutely. It's like, oh, this, you know. Absolutely. I mean, you should. Because they didn't win at fair and square. We all...

But what about years ago when everyone was pushing the boundary? Yeah, I mean, that's the thing, right? Chad Canals kind of had this rep, you know, in the Cup Series for a long time with Jimmy, is that, you know, he would... Back then, it was innovative, right? He was very, very innovative. So Ray Everingham was before Chad.

Like, it just, you had, you know, maybe it was Dale Inman. before that. Looking back at that now, it's kind of romantic a bit. Yeah, absolutely. Because the rules, they were playing in areas that the rules didn't cover, right? That doesn't mean NASCAR always liked it, but it, they just, they found a way to twist things around that weren't meant to be twisted around, but there was no rule saying

you couldn't. So these guys were very innovative to get speed out of their cars in areas that you, you, you, you are allowed to explore. What's different in this case is that this is a blatant, you are breaking the rules, you are cheating. So that's the difference. I mean, the purest of our sport probably doesn't like next gen because there is no room for being innovative, right?

I mean, for the most part, NASCAR is trying to get us to run all the same Lego box car that here's your 200-piece Lego set. you can put it together any way you want, but you have to run these 200 pieces of Lego, right? That's what NASCAR wants. Now, that probably relates into being tougher to pass because all the cars are running very close in speed. But, you know, this is a little bit different

than the innovation of the past, right? And it's very difficult, that's why it's always very difficult to compare drivers and teams from the past to now the present because, you know, the teams, the crew chief's innovative mind or the team's innovative minds don't aren't able to really work as much as they were before right this is a simulation world this is a driver world where you know those are the biggest X factors and how you're going to perform week in week out um it you know at joe gives racing

we just used to you know beat the crap out of everybody because our chassis we would innovate a chassis for many years that would always come out first won't come around the coke 600 the second one would come around a week or two before the playoffs and we knew when we got these big car upgrades these new chassis it was going to be a significant gain for us and so there was always significant parts of the date dates and time in the schedule where we knew we were about to release our latest and greatest um the problem with that is the cost was was so high for you know by the time we release one car the next car is nearly almost done and we're already starting to work on the car one seat like it's it's that far ahead of the schedule and so it used to be fun times because i mean we would go out there and the cars would feel so different you're like oh my gosh but it's so much faster um a lot of that would come from underbody stuff or lower cg which is center of gravity um it used to be some fun times back in the day when the teams could really kind of show off their ingenuity

F1 still has it, right? Their underbody, like it's, I follow Dr. Dobbs and whatnot at F1. It's so fascinating to hear, like, their commentary on, well, here's the underbody from Red Bull or here's the underbody from, you know, McLaren, look at the difference. Like, here's what they're trying to do by binning these angles and whatnot. Like, that is so interesting to me, but, you know, some people just don't care about that stuff. So, but to kind of wrap this up, They, they, they,

elementarily, uh, egregiously, uh, cheated and they got caught. And we'll see if this equals different results when we go back to the next short track. Certainly at Milwaukee,

he was not nearly as strong as what he was at, uh, at, at the other short track. So, well, we are going to a short track this weekend. So,

I got a question though. You said that it, you like them the showing off the part because it might embarrass them. But do you think that also allows people to see what they did wrong and maybe try to come up with another way to do it? You can, but I mean, that's why the penalty should be so severe. It should be just way harder than what they got. If a team gets caught breaking rule A, why would another team then go back and try also

to break rule A, right? Like, I feel like if you're... Because another team was going to try to do this. Because they saw how big of an advantage it was. I understand. But now you'd have to think that NASCAR's eyes are going to be on this. Yeah, but what they're going to, what the other team, what Travis is saying is that, yeah, but now another team might say,

well, we can come up with a different way to leak air out of our tires. You know, it used to be, you know, I won't call names, but there was no doubt some people in the Cup series that were putting pinholes in the sidewalls of their tires. Absolutely. They'd put them, I mean, they would take the tiniest hairline, you know, thumbtacks, drill bits, whatever it is, and drilling the sidewall of the tire to let leak air.

I'm just saying, don't you think NASCAR will be paying a little bit more attention to this specific issue going forward in case other teams are trying to do the same? Yes. If you're going to cheat, go find it elsewhere where they're not looking. That hasn't already been red flagged. Yes. You would think so, but this is, you, I mean, this is where you can gain the most, which is why NASCAR says,

don't with our tires, our engines, our fuel, right? Those are just the things that they do not want you messing with. Now, the argument is that, well, they didn't mess with the tire, they messed with another part, right?

But it's the tire assembly. So I think NASCAR should be on high alert. All through the playoffs, every series, I think you need to be out there, dunking tires on a regular, especially short track, I mean, all tracks. Homestead could be another one. Dunk tires.

You know, anywhere where the lower the air, the faster you go, dunk tires, randomly. Pick a set off of, you know, 10 cars that are up at the front. You don't need to be dunking the 20th place cars, tires. Like, the guys are up front, go put them and see if they're leaking in the air. What they do, when I say dunk them, they have a big, basically a water. tank. They just put the tire in it and see if it bubbles. You know, so it's, uh, that's, NASCAR should be on high alert for it for sure. I don't, you know, this, we're really beating up on the 98 team right now, but, you know, this has been around for a long time and there's been

a lot of teams get away with it for a long time that, you know, that, that have been doing this as well. So, um, yeah, NASCAR is going to be on high alert for it for sure. Uh, but we'll, we'll, We'll see how it all plays out. NASCAR 101 segment was brought to you by the Birch Gold Group. The precious metals can be a great way to diversify your savings. So learn more about the benefits with no cost or obligation. Just text Denny to 98, 98. Is Coke Zero Sugar the best Coke ever?

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or Kansas in general, since starting working in NASCAR, I've never not been to Kansas and not been to victory lane in some sort of capacity. Yeah, because I went there to... You've won two or three times? I don't know, something like that.

Yeah, as a runner. Yeah, well, I certainly was hoping to add to that as we were cruising there towards a victory inside 10 laps to go. That was one of the more painful second place finishes. Like when Kurt won, I was really emotionally excited. I was really excited. Bubble one, really excited again.

Now, this one, it's just like I was definitely more pissed off as a driver than I was happy as an owner. Right. Well, you didn't have the race in, you know. in my grasp. Yeah, yeah. Six to go.

Yeah, that's for sure. But, yeah, I just, I found myself definitely more in driver mode this weekend of like, you know,

yeah, I was happy, happy for them, right? It was almost painful for me to go to victory lane. And, you know,

I loved it, like even today, I'm really happy for the 45 team, 2311, because those are my guys. I mean, all those guys,

you know, say, boss like and I forget that at times that like yeah these are these are my guys right um but having to take a picture with Tyler right next to the trophy that he stole for me sucks oh it sucks so bad but you know if I'm gonna lose out because of the late race caution like I'm so happy at least it was them versus somebody else I mean golly had Ligano won that race you know because I mean after being an absolute non-factor whatsoever. Boy, that would have stunk even worse.

But yeah, at least Tyler was able to get it done. He's been competitive the last two weeks in a row, staying up front, so they capitalize on the opportunity. But the race itself, I thought, you know, kind of talking about the race, we had Kyle Larson leading early. Looks like he was dominant. I, um, the radio played back, or I'm sorry,

sorry, the TV played back audio from my in car on one of the cautions. I think this is between like the first and second stage where I said, these guys, they don't know yet. Like, yes, I'm hanging around this fourth, the seventh for right now, but I know what my car is capable of. And I'm like, what I say on there, I was like, they don't know what's coming. These guys are front do not know what's coming.

And what I was talking about was us, we were about to make a charge. I kind of know right away in the race whether I've got the feel I need to have in the car to be fast and competitive. I know really right away. But at that point, then I just manage my risk. I manage my, make sure I keep myself in the race until the end, right? I'd love to go up there and win all the stages and get all the bonus points, but my objective first is to win the race.

So I just probably am a little bit more cautious when I know I've got. a race-winning car and it takes me a little bit longer to get to the front guys like carl arson or reddick or some of these guys are lightning fast they can just they blow through the pack and they're at front in no time me it takes a little bit longer because i'm i'm working into it i'm making sure i don't make a mistake and because ultimately it's about timing towards getting to the front right um how many lapsed the tiled eric lead yesterday two two so it you know that's what really pays in the end. So I just knew right from the drop that we were, we were going to be good. I, I wasn't that confident overnight. My crew chief, Chris gave Hart says, take a breath.

We're going to be fine. You're going to drive through the front like you always do it, this track. I'm like, yeah, but Chris, you know, that's the past. Like, it's not, you know, I can't wrestle in laurels. I don't, you know, I can't just say, well, we've done it before. You're just going to do it again. I'm like, Chris, I don't know. The guys have gotten better, and I just don't feel like my car has got the it. But the green flag is something about the Toyota's especially, generally. When the track gets rubbered up and hot and slick,

it just seems like that's when they really come on and be strong, or at least our 11 team for sure. I don't know what it is about that track. I mentioned it on TV as well that it takes me a day to get up to speed, beat at that track. Now, I can run fast for a lap or so, but it just seems like my technique, my setup, whatever it might be, until that track gets blackened off, rubbered up, and slick, that's when I go forward, like way forward, really fast. I don't see it in practice times. I don't feel it in the car. Darlington's the same exact way. I was very middle of the pack in practice there, but it dropped

the rag, man. It's just, we've been on it the last two weeks and been super dominant. I would love to see myself and Kyle heads up there at the end. I thought that, you know, he felt he had. I think a lot of people would have liked to see that. Yeah. Yeah. You would have especially, right? Yeah. But yeah, it was, I would have loved to seen us kind of race up front, straight up. We kind of got off sequence with those guys when Cliff made the decision to keep him out that one restart. I'm actually very surprised he fell back as far as he did though i guess once you lose one spot you're it's just you lose a ton but man chase elli was able to make that strategy work and he stayed out and got the lead and held it really to all to the last couple laps before the stage and larsen dropped like a rock so

kyle was very good up front um i saw him making a pretty good charge at the end as well like he was i was watching his interval to the lead now that was still expanding but he was racing guys and continuing to march through the top 10. So I think he was very strong. Us, the 5, the 45 were consistently what I saw, the best cars. There was other guys like the 6 and the 9 that were up there. But they just were, I could just tell they didn't have the speed to like, once they led to go dominate.

Right. Well, that's what Brad said on the radio driver the 6th car. is that once you pass them past him that's all I got these of those cars are just faster

yeah yeah you could see I mean Brad's pick crew holy moly they gained him so many spots throughout the day and finally got to the front and you know it was like

what you know I couldn't believe it I thought he had honestly he had probably like an eighth to tenth place speed car you know but they just continued to execute super well

and you know yeah they put themselves in continuing and didn't get quite the finish they thought they probably deserved. But yeah, it was a fun race. And, you know, Kansas is a track that we have always kind of, I don't know, it took a long time to mature, but now that it is mature and that means the pavement is getting older, it's a, it's a racy track, man.

Gosh, it's one of the best tracks that we have on our schedule for racing. Certainly hope Mr. Ben Kennedy keep putting my mind. and a halfs on the track. This next gen car, while it is a struggle on road courses and short tracks, it is an ass kicker on the mile and a halfs. And man, they're some of the best racing. You know, this, like the old Chicago Land Speedway would be awesome for the next gen car now, because it's going to be, it would be a lot like Kansas. So let's talk about Martin Turek's junior. He had an issue on Saturday and then Sunday, what, three laps into the race? Yeah. It's over.

it was interesting he was really tight well what that tells me is maybe that it was leaking air almost inadvertently like the time he was leaking air so it gained grip for the right rear tire for a small period of time and it probably made him plow tight but eventually the air got then so low

it blew the tire out so man that is some bad bad luck and that is just this format this format of like he could be not making the next round or, or he could survive Bristol and then be the number one seat again. Yep, back to normal.

It's just, it's just crazy how it can flip. But he's had two bad weeks in a row. You know, this one's certainly not his doing or his team's doing just some absolute horrible luck to get a punctured tire. they're running over something that's sitting on the racetrack that blew out his tire. So more than likely, as early as it happened, he probably ran over something before we went green or when we were driving down pit road doing our pit road speeds. That probably punctured the tire, I would think.

It started leaking air from that point. He started off the race. He was plowing tight, which means the right rear. had plenty of grip, and then it got so low, it blew out, and he had lost control. So that's terrible for Martin. I look at the points, and I'm like, man, he's going to have to beat historically, really, really good drivers at Bristol, where a track where he hasn't been that strong. Either way, we're going to have a big name missed the first cut, right?

I mean, you know, I don't mean to fast forward ahead of the playoffs, but I'm looking, I mean, you can't ignore it. The Truex is minus seven now, and he's going to have to either beat the next guy, Harvick plus seven, Lagano plus 12, Bell plus 13, Busher plus 13, Chastain 18. I would say if he gets in and replaces, let's not include Kyle Bush, the Chastain versus Harvick, Chastain, Bush, Chastain, Buster, Bell, Lugano, Harvey. Any, or, and Truex, if any one of those guys misses it, that is an upset in the first round. Would you agree?

Yeah, not as big as if Truex misses it, obviously, but yes, it'd be an upset. Because, you know, we talked about, you know, Chris Bisher's a guy who could see the round of eight, you know, with the recent success they had. If he doesn't make it out of this first round, then yes, that's an upset. Yeah, I think no matter what,

we're going to have now again Lugano has just not been as strong Yeah and I don't know if Harvick gets knocked out I'd call that an upset either I get it but he's still Kevin Harvick man he's still The guy is just amazing As far as getting the results

The best result for what his car is capable of I mean his team cars are just not running well at all He you know Besides the RFK cars the Ford's just aren't doing well. But Kevin Harvick is and RFK is. So they're finding a way for sure. Rodney and him are just their grinders and they find a way,

but they're in the danger zone for sure. The good news is we're going to a short track where aerodynamics won't mean quite as much. So the fords have been good on the Bristol shorter type race tracks. So you've got one, two, three, three fords there. that are in that kind of danger zone of the playoff bubble. You know, when I look at the point standings, though, what the media and what people might see is, well, he's fine.

I can tell you as a driver, the people that are nervous is from Blaney down. Keselowski, he's plus 33. He knows that unless he crashes early, He's probably going to be in a good spot. He's probably resting okay this week. I just think the Blaney plus 25 and below are the guys that are like, man, I can't screw up this weekend. You can't have anything bad happening.

You can't have any bad luck. Yeah, correct. The chastain, the 18 plus 18 to Harvick plus 7, they could lose on outright points. They don't have to screw up. If they don't perform well, they could be out. So there's more guys on the nervous bubble than there is on the actual bubble. So, you know, you got Bubba 19 back, Stenhouse 22,

even though he runs good at Bristol, gaining 22 on some of these other guys will be very difficult unless he finishes top five of both stages, which is, it's doable, but he's still going to need some more of these cars here to run poorly or have a poor race. McDowell needs to win. So it's going to be exciting weekend as far as that's concerned. I think that there's a lot of guys that are nervous, and certainly no one saw this Truex thing happening two races and then the playoffs yeah i found it fascinating though that bristol has not been a good track for true truex over the years i know four top tens that's wild like top tens yeah you'd

think by accident driving a good car you'd just happen to finish ninth or something more off than not yeah i i i gibbs cars have been good there um i don't know you know who knows you could probably break them all down and figure see that now i i mean i remember he's had loose wheels i think He had loose wheel last year, year before, went multiple laps down to stuff like that. So he's certainly had his fair share of bad luck, but he's going to have to go there and run really well, where results have shown that he hasn't had the finishes

that show that he's going to go up there and beat these guys. But, I mean, that 19 team is, they were number one seed for reasons because they performed well at every racetrack they attended this year. So Martin will be motivated. James Small on that team, they'll find a way, I think. They just, these are racers, and they know how to win, and I think they're going to show up in Bristol and be fast.

What do you think ultimately needs to happen for him to advance? Just be solid, yeah. I think he needs to finish. Let's say he finishes 15th. Will he make, with no stage points? Will he advance because of where he finished, or is it going to be because a guy above the bubble? If he finishes 15th with no stage points, no, he doesn't make it.

No, he needs, he needs at least, I believe he's going to need 12 stage points. Okay, and then he's going to need to finish in the top 10. So that's a sixth. That's a really good day. Huh? That would be a really good. No, hold on. That's a fifth, fifth, right?

One, two, three, four. Yeah. So he's going to need to finish fifth or six in each stage. get 12 stage points and if he finishes in the top 10 one of these other guys Blaney Bush Chessane Busher Bell

Legano Harvey one of them will have a subpar day and he will and he will get it so still regardless that means he's going to have to knock one of these other guys out that

you know will be a name that we expected to to move on maybe they maybe they haven't had the car speed. Maybe they haven't shown up like Lugano and Harvick so far this year on speed, but there's still a name and they're superstars in our sport that find ways to make it to final fours and win championships. Did you see the drama yesterday between Chase Elliott and Kyle Larson on Pitrodd?

I did. I actually found quite humor. And Bob Hawkers's tweet when he was asking Chase Elliott It was like, you know, what message were you sending to Larson? And after you left Pitt Road, when you swirved out of him, he was like, message? There was no message. Like, he's like question of like, what are you talking about, Bob? Why are you asking me this question? I don't want you to ask me this question. But I found it super humorous.

Obviously, you know, Chase to get the bigger scope of it, he's going to see that Larson kind of had no choice. the six car was coming out of his pit box. They were four wide on a, you know, two and a half wide, um, racing surface there on pit lane. So it was just,

that kind of stuff does happen often. But Chase can't see that either, right? He, he sees that he's got a car on the outside. He sees got a teammate on the inside. And he's like, you know,

hey, teammate, if you're going to run into someone, run into the guy on the left, don't run in your teammate on the right. That's probably what his mindset was. Right. So just,

uh, quick reaction. It's just a quick reaction. Yeah. Yeah, certainly. And I think that, you know, cooler heads will prevail there. I don't think anyone did anything wrong,

but between those two. So, you know. What about him dooring Kyle, though, after that? Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm talking about. So, like, if Kyle, if Tyler and Bubba had that incident, would you go to him afterwards so that you can't door him

and your frustration, you know? Yeah, probably. Probably. It affects both their race cars. Yeah, yeah. I think, you know, Chase just kind of was super angry in the moment, right? I'm really not sure. It's tough for me to kind of speculate on one Chase L.A. was thinking there.

All he saw was that his teammate turned right and ran into the side of them. So, yeah, certainly he knew that it was for no reason, but he probably was thinking, like I was saying, that, hey, if you're going to have to make contact, do it with the other guy, not your teammate, right? Let's not avoid the six to hit the nine. So that's probably what he was thinking. But one thing I did notice, though, is the nine car is running better. They were up front most of the race, and I think that their, you know, Chase is getting the most out of his car.

I've raced around him quite a bit yesterday. And, I mean, he's wheeling it and getting all he can out of it. That is absolutely sure. Did it have the all-out speed at the five? car had. Probably not. Again, I didn't get to race much around Kyle either. He was up front when I was kind of screwing around in fifth place at the early stages.

But yeah, it looks like, you know, the nine is starting to get better. And I think that they're going to be continuing to get better as the playoff goes on. And they're still racing for the owner's championship, which matters. And, you know, you don't know, none of us know, in his driver contract, right? Does he, will he still get bonuses? And that is a factor in motivation for a driver. Will he get bonuses based off of where the car finishes and points? Because that's how his, that's how NASCAR will pay Rick Hendrick is how does that nine car do? And you would think with contracts nowadays and especially Hendrick Motorsports who had the five car last year,

being the owner's final four, but Kyle Larson was not, they probably have some provision in there to where it's you know wherever the car finish it you get paid off of what the car does not your individual right and so um you know we had that instance with baba this year at 2311 right he's the cars will finish no higher than 17th in points this year but baba can go on and finish really high for himself um but you know it's just every driver contract is very different so you just don't know whether, you know, there's some big bonuses in there for Chase if he continues to keep moving that nine car through the playoffs. Do you think he finds his way to victory lane before the season's over? I think he's going to be very close, but no. I say that cautiously because

he still drives for Hendrick Motorsports, he's still Chase Elliott. Like, he's still an upper echelot elite driver. So it just seems like they've, they just got off track a little bit and a lot of it is he was out for a while and then you know it just it takes a while to get in your rhythm you know the 11 team me Danny Hamelin takes me a long time it seems like to get going in a season right and I and I participated in all the races this year so it just that's one of the things that's very unique um but um there are average finish has always been there for the while this this season he's had the best average finish so he's still he still finds a way to grind a great finishes,

but I'm seeing him run better now. Like his average running position in the race of the nine cars is better. So I'm going to say cautiously no, but the roval, if there's a chance, like the roval is it for Chase. I just think that I've seen him drive from the back to the front at that racetrack before with a car that ran into the tire barrier.

So I wouldn't count them out for sure. What happened on that final? restart yesterday. The final restart. I was looking backwards instead of forwards. This is a problem in our series for sure

and it seems like I want to encourage the fans look at the aerial video of the final restart. It looks like the most, I'd say it looks like an arc a restart. There's cars spread out all

all over the front stretch. And all that is because somebody started laying back, then somebody else started reacting to laying back, they laid back, then the next car laid back. And if you look, there was two rows organized, and that was the first two rows of the field. Everyone else was spread way out because everyone's playing these stupid games at the end that's bullshit,

that they're trying to lay back. And essentially what happens is when we take off for a restart, it is a drag race. These cars don't have a whole lot of power. So we're wide open all the way until we get to turn three. So if you're able to roll speed, so if two cars take off in a drag race, which one is going to get to the start?

If they're all equal on speed, which one is going to get to the finish line first? The one that is starting at 47 miles an hour or the one that starts at 45 miles per hour? It's the 47 because he has got that two mile per hour advantage from the start to the finish. So he is trying to roll speed to keep that, you know,

his mile per hour up through the entire all the way until turn three. Well, NASCAR has said, stop the laying back. They've said it, but they haven't done anything about it yet. I would suspect this week that they do address it.

I talked with some NASCAR officials when I was congratulated. I went into the garage during inspection of the 45 and the 11 after I got done with the media stuff as the owner. And I saw a NASCAR official in there. And they brought it to my attention. We were like, you know, that last restart was just not good. And, you know, we got to address it. And I says, listen, I agree.

I made it look even worse because I'm, I was a guilty party in reacting to what I saw behind me. Right. And so it's just starting to become a trend where these guys. are laying way back and they're getting a run. And so the advantage, why it's, let me tell you why it's not right. If you're starting behind someone, you didn't earn the right to overtake them. Like, they're up front because they earn that position throughout the day. And you should not have an advantage over them on a restart if you're behind them.

The advantage should be for the front cars and then the next cars, then the next row, and the next row, next row. it shouldn't be whoever lays back the most has the biggest advantage because if i let the person behind me lay back what happens is they start their mile per hour sooner then they they are able to split me one way or the other either to the left or to the right and the track is wide enough to where they will be able to do that so it's just it's not a good look for our series it looks really disorganized um it's not fair to the front cars for certain uh what i should have done in retrospect was just stay on the bumper of the eight car it would have gave me the

opportunity to take the the spot that the 45 did but i was trying to react to listen i don't want to let the five car just go back there and lay lay back so far that he gets a huge run through one and two and next to know i'm i'm the guy split three wide top or three wide middle when when i earn the position to be in front so it's just they they need to the the only way they can be to do this if they don't want to black flag someone well maybe they do need a black flag people but they just need to say immediately nope yellow stop stop you know we're going to redo this again they do it in dirt racing all the time when they don't have a start that is not the way it should be immediately throw the caution we're going to restart you right back where you were car x y z you this is your warning

this is your warning you guys laid back you do it again you were going to the back so i think they you know they can abort a start or just say hey listen the furthest car up front that does it he the start is aborted and we're going to we're going to do this again and car z who did this you're going to the back uh because it just it's not a good again there's multiple reasons why you shouldn't do it or NASCAR shouldn't allow it. But it's getting out of hand on these bigger race tracks for sure. Yeah, I guess in hindsight, though, you think you would have won the race had you just started normally behind eight, considering Reddick was able to drive that front?

Yeah, I mean, I certainly would have been beside Reddick as we went into turn one. But then I would have had the five car coming 10 miles an hour faster than me. And I would have had to have, I would have been defenseless against it. and he would have gone to the top and then put me three wide middle. So, yes, I would have had a great initial restart, but my turns one and two, I was going to get, I mean, just blown by

by the car laying back on me. I'm watching this replay over and over again. You might have just been behind Reddick still going into turn two. Yeah, maybe not. I wouldn't have been as far behind him. Because he's in the middle between Kyle Bush and whoever's on the bottom.

I guess if you don't get around Reddick than you're in the middle between Larson and Chase. I mean, ifs and buts. It's easy to kind of think about what would happen if, but regardless, it didn't happen. It did look funky. It looked back. Did you see it? Did you see like even beyond the first five rows how bad it was?

Yeah. The whole field was spread. I mean, it was awful. It was a worst looking restart. And this is just people reacting. And again, it looks like when you throw the green and you take a snapshot, it's like 11, what the are you doing? Like, I'm three car links back.

Well, it's because I see this guy laying back on me and I'm like, well, I ain't going to let you get away with that. I'm just going to back up to you and make sure that, you know, I'm not the one who's going to get screwed here. But then you get screwed regardless. Yeah, no doubt. But, I mean, either way, if I sucked up, again, I was going to get put three wide, which I did anyway, because he still had a run. Um, it just, yeah, we, we certainly as a series need to look a little better than that. We need to do a better job as drivers. Um, I need to do a better job and not, you know, just kind of looking forward there, but, you know, then my crew chief would have been all my ass, like, you know,

why'd you lay it, why'd you let them lay back like that? So, um, it's a tough spot to be in. We just all got to be a little bit better professionals and, um, and, and do it, uh, do it the right way, but you and reddick took four tires, but had you been up front with your car, Could two tires have worked? I know it's an if. My car was so good. Maybe. But Travis, who knows?

We can't predict how many cars or other cars are going to take two. Certainly if we started on the front row with Daniel, I would have liked to, I think we could have cleared them off a turn two, regardless of what lane I started in. But who knows, right? If a caught, say that's true, right? A caution happens off the turn two. We got to restart.

Well, now I got four tires right. on my ass like then i'm done so i think the call was right uh i just didn't do a very good job on that restart whatsoever and um and yeah we we lost the most like comment on the replay that nascar posted on instagram is denny was more worried about blocking than winning cost both the five and the 11 of course yeah of course but hey i i'm out there trying to win for myself we we were in control of the race. We should have won the race, and we didn't. But that's just, that's NASCAR racing.

You know, it's very different than other sports, where the competition makes a mistake, you usually capitalize in other sports. And ours, the competition makes a mistake. It can screw you and lose it on pit road. So it's just, it's part of it. It's what makes it so hard to win a championship in this series is that just untimely cautions

can just absolutely ruin things, right? Carl Edwards was cruising like I was this weekend at Homestead. And NASCAR throws a caution for, I think, debris or something. And it changed the champion of our series. So it's by chance. I hate to say it that sometimes luck is a factor. There's no question. I hate the word luck in racing,

but it certainly is a factor in our championship. Well, Reddick wins, an additional five playoff points. He's locked into the round of 12. does it change the outlook of his playoffs for you, another win already advancing? Yeah, it does. I think that they're, you know, where that team is lacked, it's not been speed, it's been execution.

And a lot of it has been, you know, on 2311, we've had a rough pit road for those guys. It's been a tough, you know, we keep track of it. This should be like his fourth or fifth win on the season. He's performed really well. we just had some pit road woes that's kept him out of three victories. But, you know, this was a one where he probably wasn't going to win, but did. So, and it's because he's executed.

He's continuing to put himself in position to get that caution when he needs it, right? These are the ones that, you shouldn't have won, but you did, right? Because you did a great job of executing and playing the race management game the right way. So I look at it as a positive, and these guys are, they're fast everywhere they go. So as long as they can keep it together, who knows how far these guys can go. Can I get an updated post-Kansas pickleball driver rankings since I heard? Yeah, I'm last. I stink.

We should go play that game that we never. Well, I mean, you still wouldn't beat me. Okay. But I didn't play good. I, shout out to Chip while from, uh, um, NASCAR for helping set up a pick-a-ball court there on turn-to side of the racetrack. He had some lights for us. He had a couple pickleball courts.

And, yeah, it was Austin Dillon was out there, Ricky Stenhouse, Justin Haley, myself, Ryan Blaney, Bubba Wallace. I thought I played the worst of anyone. I was out of it a little bit. Like I just came from dinner. I was full. Didn't feel well. You know, I'm just going to give all the excuses I possibly can.

But I just didn't, I don't know what it was. I just didn't play as well as I normally do. But yeah, it was fun. So I like that, you know, they're giving us, you know, some extracurricular stuff to do besides sitting in our bus on, on any given Saturday night or whatever. So it was a lot of fun. Chip's got a great game, by the way. He's got some great top spin.

He puts on it. He's more athletic than you think. So he was a pretty impressive pickabowel player. Now I'll know why he was trying to set up a game so much. You always want to play a game you're good at. I need to before we finish. I need to give a shout out to Philpott on your 11 crew because I told him when my fantasy football team kicked his ass this week

that I'd mention it on here. and I mean, I demolished him. Demolished him, huh? Yeah. Well, it's, you know, the 11-11 team has its fantasy football draft. How did I do this weekend? You won, I believe. Yeah.

That's good. I've got a strong team. I have a co-manager of my team. I was about to say how much did you put in a draft in your team? Well, I'm a general manager. Yeah, you did win. You beat, yeah. You beat Austin.

Okay. Yeah, I'm a general manager. My friend Charlie's co-manager of that team. And, you know, yeah, listen, it's hard for me to, you know, be up at 2 a.m. picking up the waiver wires and shit like that. Like, you know, you got to have, you got to delegate sometimes. Sure, sure. It'll be fun.

It'll be fun to keep up with that over the course of this season and all the smack talk that goes along with it. Awesome. Well, hey, in not too many weeks in Las Vegas, we've got Dale Jr. and friends. Going to do a little Dirty Mo Live again. They're also going to have the door bumper clear guys out there in Vegas. So the show is going to be on Friday, October 13th at the Westgate in Las Vegas resort and casino.

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Reminder to rate, review, follow wherever you get your podcast, and be sure to subscribe to Dordymo Media on YouTube. Each week, we put up a couple clips throughout the week, and then on Friday, the full video podcast is posted. Denny, you also had a fan, somebody tweeted you during the race. He said, this dude straight down in our section sitting front row, definitely giving Denny Hamlin the bird every time. he passes best fan of the year award.

Every time I passed. Every time you pass. 267 times. Well, and if that's double birds. Yeah, 50012, 14? 14. Well, I'll only pass 267 times. Yeah, but two of them.

Yeah. Yeah, he gave me the 11th. All right, awesome. Well, hey, listen, those out there cheering, I hear you. I hear you loud and clear. Thank you. I see all the DH gear out there. So more than I've ever seen.

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