Anatomy of Murder - Something to Fix (Emmett Corrigan)

Episode Date: December 17, 2024

After her husband's murder, his wife has to grapple with multiple revelations. For episode information and photos, please visit: anatomyofmurder.com/something-to-fix/ Can’t get enough AoM? Find us... on social media!Instagram: @aom_podcast | @audiochuckTwitter: @AOM_podcast | @audiochuckFacebook: /listenAOMpod | /audiochuckllc

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I just remember thinking like there's no way this is my one answer. I said I just needed something to fix not break my entire life and break my family and leave these kids fatherless. I'm Scott Weinberger investigative journalist and former deputy sheriff. I'm Anna Sega Nicolazzi, former New York City homicide prosecutor and host of Investigation Discovery's True Conviction. And this is Anatomy of Murder. We've often said that our primary goal on this podcast is to advocate for not just the
Starting point is 00:00:47 victims of violent crimes, but for the survivors as well. That could mean the children of a murdered parent, the wife of a murdered husband, and even the many friends and extended family members of the people lost to homicide. We believe that their stories and their perspective on loss and justice are a crucial part of their healing process, and can maybe even provide strength to others going through similar experiences. Today's story is as much about its survivors as it is about the victim. It's about a mother and her then five children whose lives were forever changed by a deadly incident of gun violence. But for Ashley Boyson, the survivor's journey
Starting point is 00:01:30 has also been about reconciliation, not only with the homicide, but also with the betrayal that led directly to that tragedy. Back in the early 2000s, Ashley was a bright-eyed undergraduate at Utah State University. She was working in the early 2000s, Ashley was a bright-eyed undergraduate at Utah State University. She was working in the school gym when she met upperclassman Emmett Corrigan, a popular Boise native bound for law school.
Starting point is 00:01:54 It was sparked right away with Emmett and I. We both just connected on so many levels and similarities, and we were kind of inseparable. It was clear from the beginning that Emmett was ambitious and eager to get on with his big plans for the future. In fact, he and Ashley had only been dating for two months before he popped the question. I wasn't surprised at all.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Like six weeks in, we just started talking about our future and it wasn't like an option to not have a future together. It was a huge storybook wedding, the newlyweds beaming with youth and optimism for a long, happy life with each other. After a spring break honeymoon on the Oregon coast, Ashley went back to Utah State, a married woman. Their twins arrived during Emmett's first year of law school.
Starting point is 00:02:44 The young couple was deeply in love, but as you can probably imagine, juggling books and babies is no easy task. I remember during law school just almost feeling this, we got to make this work. I mean, he was busy most of the time and I was in the depths of motherhood, but I never saw it as a burden. I was just like, this is what we're doing. And we're just gonna get through this and then life together will start really, it was kind of a, we have to push through the school time. And then it's all going to be amazing.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Eventually, the couple moved to Emmett's hometown of Boise, where he would begin his career as a lawyer, and Ashley would begin building the home and the life of their dreams. And he always wanted to have friends over and parties and cook food for everybody and he'd even invite like everyone from our church over and we'd have this huge pig roast. He just was a connector and never wanted anyone to feel alone. He was an only child and just always wanted to be surrounded by people.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And he just loved people and people loved him. But according to Ashley, she had some reservations about putting down roots in Boise, a place where she knew Emmett had a long and sometimes troubled history. When he said, I got a job in Boise, let's move to Boise, I had some doubts. And I'll tell you the main reason why is he grew up here and knew a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:04:13 And also during his high school years made a lot of really bad choices. And I was like, I don't know if I want to move to the place where you had rough patches in your life. I kind of want to get a fresh start somewhere else, but this literally was the only option and we ended up moving here. And by 2011, the couple had five children, a comfortable house, a couple of cars in the driveway,
Starting point is 00:04:36 and from the outside, it appeared they had everything anyone would have ever hoped for. It was kind of one of those, like, you drew up your life when you were a kid and now you have it. You're pregnant with your second boy, you have the white picket fence, your husband has this amazing job, this amazing career, and yet I just kept feeling this like, is something not right?
Starting point is 00:04:59 So it was a very torn time, like I was living my dreams and internally something fell off a lot. After opening his own law practice, Emmett was working long hours, regularly staying late at the office. And with Ashley juggling five kids at home, the couple began to experience what many couples do, a growing distance between them, both physical and emotional.
Starting point is 00:05:23 It had gotten to the point where he hardly was home. He was always running to the jail. He was always meeting with clients. Or he wasn't coming home, and I didn't know why a lot. And I wanted my family. I wanted my marriage. I wanted back the man who I fell in love with and who I loved. And whatever it was, we were going to face it together,
Starting point is 00:05:44 and that was kind of my mindset. Ashley also saw the return of one of Emmett's old demons. After years of sobriety, he had started drinking again. He would come home sometimes, and I could smell it. And that was some of the demons that I was afraid to move back to Boise because he had struggled with that when he lived here before. But by February of 2011, Ashley felt that there was
Starting point is 00:06:11 something else causing a rift in their marriage. It was a rising suspicion that her husband was hiding something from her, that perhaps he was not being faithful. I don't know if I didn't want to face the truth or if I just felt safer living in cognitive dissonance. I don't know, but there was always something inside of me pointing me in the direction
Starting point is 00:06:34 that I knew something was wrong. I tried to find evidence of something wrong or some other woman or something. It was always a dead end, except for the pit in my stomach. It just wouldn't stop. A month later, Ashley knew it was time to confront Emmett about her suspicions and hopefully convince him to begin the process of healing their marriage. I remember that morning waking up
Starting point is 00:06:57 and it had been months of me starting to dig like in a way that a full-time mom with five little kids can. I remember waking up though and I'm like, I'm not going to go through his truck while he's in the shower. I'm not going to try to get in his phone. That has proved to not work. I'm going to find an answer and I don't care what it is.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I'd gone to a marriage therapist and asked him for help. I'd gone to someone at church and asked him for help. I'm like, I got this. I remember kneeling down by my bed going, Heavenly Father, I just need one answer. Tell me what's going on and I will fix it. I'm a woman, I'm strong, I can face it. I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Just help me figure out what it is. On the evening of March 11th, Ashley set Emmett down for a heart to heart, bearing her soul in the hopes that Emmett would do the same. At one point I said, you know, lately, when you don't want to be intimate with me, I feel like either I'm not doing it for you or someone else is. And he was silent. But instead of being open to the conversation, Emmett went on the defensive,
Starting point is 00:08:04 denying that he was having an affair and instead accusing Ashley of being unfairly suspicious, ungrateful, and unhinged. As a lawyer, Emmett was really good at his words. And so when his actions didn't match the words, I doubted me before I doubted his words. It was just like, I have anxiety because I'm not trusting. Like, my parents got divorced, maybe I'm not a trusting person because of this or this or my past. And I would just always turn it inward. But the fear sometimes of knowing the truth keeps you from even wanting to look at it.
Starting point is 00:08:40 As Ashley recounted to us, she finally convinced Emmett to speak to a friend who was also a marriage counselor. By the time he got off the phone, I had put the babies to bed and just kind of was waiting for him to come out. And I was hoping we were going to have this night where we just fought for each other. You know, you get those those images of what this night could be. I had this grand idea that he was going to talk to him and his heart was going to be softened and he was going to come and open up to me. And we were going to face it head on together. Instead, Emmett emerged from the bedroom, grabbed his coat and headed for the front
Starting point is 00:09:17 door. He looks at me and he goes, I'm going to run to Walgreens real quick. I haven't been feeling really good. I have scratchy throat. I need to get some medicine. And that feeling of anxiety and chaos that I felt, it was like 400 times stronger. And I just got this pit in my stomach.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I'm like, Emmett, please don't go. At a little before 9 PM, Emmett left. It was the last time Ashley would see him alive. 10, 15, I called Emmett's phone like four times in a row and just text him like, Are you okay? What's going on? I knew something was wrong. And you know what I pictured for a moment, I'm like, maybe he wrecked his brand new truck. He's gonna need me, we're gonna go to this hospital, I'm gonna take all five of these babies. And for the first time in a long time he's going to be sitting there
Starting point is 00:10:06 humbled and actually need and want his family and we're going to be there and this is what's going to heal us. Then just after 10PM a flurry of 911 calls were received and local Police Department in Meridian Idaho. Witnesses reported hearing gunshots in the parking lot in front of a local Walgreens. One of the 911 calls was from a woman identifying herself as Candy Hall, And in the recording, you can hear her frantically begging for help. First responders rushed to the scene. And what they found was anything but typical for this part of suburban Boise, two men lying on the pavement, both suffering from apparent gunshot wounds
Starting point is 00:11:05 one is identified as the female caller's husband Robert Hall the other is 30 year old Emmett Corrigan. Who did this dude hey you hear me hey, I need you to stay with me, okay? Where's the head at? Where's your head injury at? Right on top of the chair. On top? Okay, who shot you?
Starting point is 00:11:30 Do you know who did it? Robert Hall had what looked like a graze wound to the side of his head, but was still conscious. Emmett Corrigan, lying just a few feet away, had suffered two gunshot wounds, one to the chest and one to the head. He was declared dead at the scene. No suspect in the middle.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Not yet. I don't know. This is weird. Ashley Boyson would get the news about her husband just a few minutes later. I don't even know how long I was asleep when I heard the pounding on my door. So I slowly walked myself to my door and I remember opening it and I'm like it's going to be cops and they're going to be like come with us we have him. Instead it was three detectives who were all in street clothes. Making a death notification at the home of a family member is one of the hardest jobs a police officer has. But when that death has come as a result of a homicide, it is filled with its own set of challenges,
Starting point is 00:12:30 not the least of which is gathering important information that may help to solve a murder. And they're like, we just really need you to sit down. And we all walked in and sat around this giant leather couch that Emma and I had saved forever for and finally had this dream couch in our dream house. The plainclothes detectives informed Ashley that her husband had been shot. News that was still almost impossible for her to process.
Starting point is 00:12:58 For the first second, I'm like, okay, he's shot, he's at the hospital, they're going to take me there. And I think the detective knew, he's like, Ashley, he's shot, he's at the hospital, they're going to take me there. And I think the detective knew he's like, actually, he was shot in the heart and in the forehead. And he died. The bullet that hit Emmett's chest had passed through his sternum, through the right ventricle of his heart, through his left lung, and impacted his spinal column. That second bullet entered his skull. And I'm going to be pretty specific here.
Starting point is 00:13:27 The bullet entered just inside the hairline of his upper right forehead, traveled in a slight downward and leftward direction through the entire right side of his brain. And I just remember thinking like, there's no way this is my one answer. I said, I just needed something to fix, not break my entire life and break my family
Starting point is 00:13:48 and leave these kids fatherless and leave me broken for the rest of my life is what I thought in that moment. Both gunshots were fired from close range. Ballistic tests would later confirm that the bullets came from a gun founded to scene, a 380 caliber automatic pistol with a laser sight, a gun that was registered to the other male victim, Robert Hall.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Hall was a 41-year-old former deputy and part-time salesman who lived just a few minutes away from where the shooting took place. According to Hall, the two men had gotten into an altercation in the parking lot, a scuffle during which his gun fell out of his sweatshirt pocket. He claimed it was Emmett who picked up the gun and fired first, the bullet grazing the side of Hall's head. Hall went on to describe how he then managed to wrestle the gun away from Emmett and return fire.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Striking Emmett twice, once in the chest and once in the head, he claimed that he acted instinctually out of fear for his own life. So Hull admitted to shooting Emmett Corrigan, but whether it was done in self-defense as he claimed or was premeditated, that would still have to be determined and then proven out by the evidence. So was this argument over a parking space? A falling out between friends or business partners? To answer those questions, police would rely on the one witness that actually witnessed the shooting, Rob Hall's wife, Candy Hall. While her husband was being stitched up at the hospital, Candy had been brought to the
Starting point is 00:15:22 police station so investigators could immediately take her statement. The information she shared would be vital in piecing together the events leading up to the shooting and whether her version matched up with what was being described by her husband. Are you good with talking with us right now? I mean you got brought down here as a witness and the way I'm looking at this is, you know, are you willing to voluntarily talk to us and tell us what happened tonight? Yeah, I'll talk to you.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Absolutely. The first and most important revelation, these two men were not strangers. And this argument was not over a parking space or business. It was over her. It turned out that 40-year-old Candy Hall worked in Emmett's law office as a paralegal, and her husband had suspected that she and her boss had been having an affair for months. He was very, very, very, very jealous of, well, not very jealous, I don't wanna say that,
Starting point is 00:16:26 he was just upset about my action lately, which is just basically, I just had enough, I just had enough. When police asked Candy if she and Emmett had a romantic relationship, she denied it. No. if she and Emmett had a romantic relationship. She denied it. But as you can imagine, police were curious if they would turn up any evidence at the scene that might contradict her statement.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Would you have a problem with the guys who built the scene to photograph your car, open the doors, look through it, and if they see anything of evidence or value, they'll take it, they'll leave your receipt? Are you okay with that? You're fine with that? Okay. Sure enough, law enforcement discovered printed personal emails in Rob Hall's truck between Rob and Candy that indicated that he had uncovered the affair between Emmett and his wife months
Starting point is 00:17:37 earlier. So this had all the makings of a classic and tragic love triangle, which meant that a motive for the altercation at the Walgreens parking lot may well have been coming into focus. But investigators still had plenty to figure out. Like was this really just all a heated argument that turned deadly? Or was it a planned ambush? Was it a matter of self-defense? Or cold-blooded murder?
Starting point is 00:18:16 On March 11, 2011, gunfire had broken out in a parking lot in Boise, Idaho. When the smoke cleared, two men had been shot. 41-year-old Rob Hall had survived. 30-year-old Emmett Corrigan had not. I hear pop, pop and then pop. And that's all I heard. And I turned around and both of them were laying on the ground. The sole witness of the shooting was Hall's wife Candy, who claimed that her jealous husband Rob had been increasingly agitated and angry in the hours before the shooting. Incredibly, their argument was occurring just as Ashley Boyson was confronting Emmett over her own suspicions about his
Starting point is 00:18:59 infidelity, suspicions that turned out to be well grounded. They had met with an attorney that day to file papers for Candy to get a divorce. According to Candy Hall, she left her home around 9 p.m. to meet Emmett, parking next to his black Range Rover in the lot of a local Walgreens. Here's a recording from her interview with police on the night of the shooting. He was there when I got there. He was like, hey, I didn't need to go get Jas, you wanna come with me, let's talk about what's going on.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And then I drove around and I parked my car and I got in his truck and we went. Yep, that's exactly what happened. The video will show that. Yep, yes it will. Little did she know her husband Rob had decided to follow her. His arrival was even caught on security video at the scene.
Starting point is 00:19:47 On the video footage at Walgreens, you see Rob, his truck pulls up in just like a normal stall. You can see his whole truck. And in the video, you see him get out of his truck with his hands in his pocket. And as he's walking inside Walgreens, his hands don't leave his pocket. He's like fr's walking inside Walgreens, his hands don't leave his pocket. He's like frantically looking through Walgreens and you can see through the
Starting point is 00:20:08 Walgreens cameras, him going up and down every single aisle and just kind of looking around. As Emmett and Candy were driving back to the Walgreens pharmacy, Candy received a call from her irate husband who had spotted Candy's car in the parking lot. Here's more of that interview with Candy Hall. So then Rob calls and I pick up and he's like, what are you doing? And I said, I am out.
Starting point is 00:20:34 He said, are you out with Emmett? And I said, I am. And he said, what are you doing? And I said, we're just talking. And then Emmett goes, let me talk to him. And then Emmett got really upset with Rob on the phone, said something like, a f***ing break your head or something.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Remember, Candy is the only witness to what happened next. But according to her, Emmett was riled up and itching for a confrontation. And when they returned to the parking lot, Rob was there waiting. Emmett's a very aggressive man. He bodybuilds, you know, so he's really pumped up all the time. And he got, like, this close-up into Rob's face.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Emmett said, what are you going to do, Rob? Are you going to hit me? — At this point, Candy says that her attempts to de-escalate the situation failed, so she turned away and headed back to her car to leave. And then she turned back around to find both her husband and Emmett bleeding on the ground. I didn't know what it was. And I was like, what? And I turned around and I heard Emmett go, oh, and kind of like, oh, and he fell. And then I looked over and he's on the ground.
Starting point is 00:21:54 It's blood all over. I was like, oh my God. Candy's version of events painted Robert as a jealous man whose emotions might have spiraled out of control. However, she also claimed that Emmett was the aggressor in the confrontation. Now it's important to note that Candy never claimed to have seen the actual shooting. She only heard the gunshots. So police still don't know for certain what happened.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Did Emmett really fire first, as Rob Hall said? The truth seemed to lie in the sequence of gunshots. Your back was turned. My back was turned, yeah. You heard pop, pop, pop? I can pause? Yep. Okay, like how long am I gonna pause? And those are time questions can be tough, but.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Seconds. But a definite pause? Yeah, it definitely pause yeah pop pop pop now you may be asking why is this important well just think about it for a second if you're looking at from a self-defense perspective the one shot first followed by two more shots may mean that rob's version could be correct that he was shot and then fired two shots in self-defense. Or if you're looking at the other version, two shots, pop, pop, and then a single pop could mean that Rob fired first two rounds and then turned the gun on himself and fired a self-inflicted non-lethal round. And Anasiga, this would be a really important point if they can narrow
Starting point is 00:23:24 it down and really figure out what happened. I mean, this is one of those things as prosecutors that we would, I mean, I'd probably use this in my opening and my summation, right? Because what Kandee says, it's absolutely going to be admissible at trial, and here's your, like, legal trial evidence 101 for the day.
Starting point is 00:23:42 It's called an excited utterance because she says it in the heat of the moment when she's still under, you know, that mindset of what is happening at that moment. And what she says clearly is pop, pop, pop. So you're going to have to look at it because it certainly seems that what she recounted during that call sounds like someone is intentionally firing multiple shots at least initially. So I would go with the way that you ended that, Scott, with like, this is someone who is firing, and then just maybe turned that gun on himself. Yeah, and I certainly see that this is an important aspect
Starting point is 00:24:14 of the state's case to try to determine who was the aggressor here. Something clearly doesn't add up, but it shows how important that testimony will be. And while firsthand witnesses can obviously be invaluable to a homicide investigation, Candy's relationship with both men meant that investigators would have to rely on physical evidence to verify her story. They can't know for sure if she's telling the truth or if maybe she was, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:24:39 complicit in the murder or the cover-up, or maybe none of them. But now that this horror has happened, police have to consider if she is going to stick with the last man standing, her husband, Rob Hall. First thing you want to do is collect gunshot residue. See if there's any gunshot residue from your hands. Okay. So we have a kit for that. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:00 We're going to collect your clothes because they have blood on them. And that will help maybe help piece the puzzle together. Needless to say Emmett's wife Ashley was blindsided by the events of March 11th, 2011. First there was a shock of her husband's violent death and then the revelation that her husband was cheating on her with the wife of the man who shot him. And it was at that moment she began to question so many things,
Starting point is 00:25:27 even about herself. So it's not just the incident of your husband was cheating on you, and now he's dead and this guy killed him. It's like every insecurity just grows inside of you. And so the disassociation and the fog isn't just you went through this moment. It's what did that moment tell you about yourself? And what do you think everybody else thinks about you now? And I think that was the biggest trap that I was stuck in for so long.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I'm living in this fishbowl. Everybody knows I wasn't enough. Every time I go anywhere and they see me, like they feel sorry for me, but they're also like, oh my gosh, in your head, this is what I'm thinking. Oh my gosh, of course, look at her. She's this and this and this. And I just felt like everything I had ever appreciated about myself, everything I ever thought I did well,
Starting point is 00:26:16 it was all stripped. Like I was just nothing and broken. And that was my destiny. One of the hardest things to face after she learned the truth about her husband's relationship with another woman Was that she actually knew the other woman Candy Hall and while Emmett had described the older woman as just a friendly co-worker Ashley had always had her suspicions that there was something going on between them I honestly only met her a few times like I would go to an appointment for my pregnancy down by the office and I would stop by. And some of the other paralegals and secretaries were like, you should just walk in.
Starting point is 00:26:54 He's in there with candy and said just weird stuff. And so I did. I just walked in and then, Emmett looked at me like I was a ghost. Like, oh, hey, what are you doing here? Not acting sooner on those suspicions still haunts her to this day. But at the time, she had been committed to keeping their family together. But following her husband's death, the last time they would all gather together as a family would be at Emmett's funeral.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I remember getting there and the first thing I was afraid of, and this became the first thing I was afraid of and this became the first thing I was afraid of everywhere I went for a very long time is what if she shows up. I mean she's claiming she was his lover. What if she shows up? So a lot of the funeral I was on like high alert just watching for candy. On March 13th, 2011 investigators from Meridian police sat down with Rob Hall. He'd been released from the hospital and now they were going to question him about the night of the shooting and try to get a clearer picture about what happened.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Would he double down on what was sounding like an unlikely scenario or would he maybe come clean? My name is Jim Miller and I'm the detective in charge of this case. I've spoken to one of our officers initially about this, but since you got released, I wanted to talk to you about what happened, what led up to all this, I mean, how we ended up here today. But Rob Hall exercised his right to an attorney
Starting point is 00:28:18 and chose not to make a statement. And so he was placed into custody, charged with the murder of Emmett Corrigan, and then transported to the county jail. A traveling judge offered bail and his mom paid it and he ended up getting out of jail like 28 days later. And when I called Frantic about that, they're like, Oh, don't worry. He wasn't mad at you.
Starting point is 00:28:40 He even had a letter on his seat that was addressed to you that was gonna tell you everything that he was gonna mail to you. And they thought that would make me feel better, but in that moment I'm like, well, why the hell didn't he just mail the letter? We could have worked together and figured this out and not had someone die. A trial was set for the fall of 2012,
Starting point is 00:29:00 yet another painful ordeal to be endured by Emmett Corrigan's widow and their five young kids. I, for a long time, was like, I'm not going to be part of this murder trial. I'm just, I got to put it in the past. I got to march. And then as it got closer, I just couldn't not. I had to have the rest of the puzzle pieces. Puzzle pieces that would come courtesy not from the only witness to the shooting, Kenny Hall, but from the physical evidence left behind at the crime scene.
Starting point is 00:29:39 The prosecution's case against Robert Hall was that he had gone to the Walgreens parking lot armed with a loaded unholstered gun with the intention of confronting Emmett Corrigan. He had the motive, his wife's infidelity, the means, a loaded automatic handgun with a laser sight, and the opportunity, knowledge of exactly when and where to find his target. Robert Hall claimed he acted in self-defense. His attorneys would insist that he had no intention of killing Emmett, but only fired his gun because he believed his life was in mortal danger.
Starting point is 00:30:15 He also claimed that Emmett, who was younger and more physically imposing, had attacked him first during their argument, pushing him to the ground, taking the gun, and firing first, grazing Hall on the side of his head. Rob's claim during court was he had to defend himself. At one point Emmett had the gun and then he handed it over to Rob and then Rob shoots.
Starting point is 00:30:38 However, forensic evidence contradicted Robert's claim of self-defense. On the night of the shooting, investigators had done a gunshot residue test on all three people present at the crime scene. Rob Hall, his wife Candy, and the deceased victim, Emmett Corrigan. Those tests proved that Hall was the only one who had fired the gun found at the scene. Rob Hall's DNA was also found on the trigger.
Starting point is 00:31:06 The DNA and all the gunpowder tests and everything, nothing was on Emmett's hand. It was all on Rob's and Candy's because she ended up picking up the gun and throwing it later. So his self-defense story didn't really add up. The gunshot residue test undermined Hall's entire story. His credibility was shot.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Prosecutors also pointed to Candy Hall's own recorded statement in which she described the sequence of gunshots that she heard. What she described in the aftermath of the murder did not support her husband's story that Emmett shot first, pop, and then he returned fire, pop, pop. But the medical examiner determined that Emmett's wounds to his chest and head were instantly fatal. So then the question is who fired that third shot? The prosecution's theory, Rob Hall himself.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Considering the path of the bullet that caused Hall's wound, the gunshot residue on his hand and the sequence of gunshots heard by his own wife, prosecutors argued that after Hall shot and killed Emmett Corrigan, he turned the gun on himself. Incredibly, a statement surfaced from a jailmate of Hall's that this may not even have been a spur of the moment decision. He was talking to someone in jail with him that he had like practiced to know exactly how to get a graze wound. So it looked like self-defense. And so if the prosecution could prove that this was not in fact an act of self-defense, the next step would be to decide if the murder was carried out in the heat of the moment or Whether it had been planned, you know I think of the gunshot residue test is a big thing for me the fact that the victim Emmett
Starting point is 00:32:52 Corrigan had nothing in his hands to reveal that he had pulled the trigger Completely blows a hole in the self-defense case, right? And it's the defendant's demeanor also on camera that pacing back and forth before the shooting, that the surveillance cameras captured is important, I think, for the prosecution's case to show state of mind. And I agree that I really think it's the front end of this that is so telling. I mean, let's just look at this.
Starting point is 00:33:18 You have Rob Paul going to the place that he believes his wife to be with the man that he believes she is having an extramarital affair with. He doesn't just go on his own, he brings a gun. He has the gun with him when he confronts them. You have Candy's quick rendition of the way that those gunshots are heard. Remember, she is saying that as the 911 operator is taking the call, as the officers are first responding, I mean, that is within moments before she has time to think or reflect or
Starting point is 00:33:44 to make up like what might sound or what might help her husband at that point. It really does point to the fact that, again, whether he planned to go kill him or just planned to confront him and hurt him and then again in that heat of passion, which what that does, it's still a crime, but it takes it potentially from murder to manslaughter. It definitely seems to point much more in that direction, just based on common sense, than with what Hall is saying to police. In backing up even what you're saying is,
Starting point is 00:34:12 you know, there was a fiery conversation with them moments before the victim was challenged to a fight. And for Rob, the answer was in his pocket, a small caliber semi-automatic handgun. And even after the initial confrontation in the parking lot, Hall still had time to de-escalate that situation. If he wanted to, right, he could have simply left. Instead, he drew his weapon and fired more than once.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And keep in mind, it wasn't just any weapon. He was trying to have it just be self-defense. And yet the gun that he brought, it was a present that Candy gave him that he kept at his parents' house that was his only gun that had a laser pointer. So it was one of those like a lot of people said, no, this is first degree. You went to your parents' house, got a specific gun, had it in your hoodie pocket. During the trial, Rob Hall's wife Candy was called to testify as a witness to the murder. It remained to be seen whether she would be able to offer a truthful and believable account
Starting point is 00:35:11 of the shooting. So when Candy was on the stand, my stomach was just in knots and I just had to pinch myself. It was very, very triggering, but I couldn't look away. I just had to watch it. Candy Hall did finally admit that she and Emmett were indeed involved in a physical relationship. And that on the night of the murder, the plan was not just to drive around and talk as she told police. And her story is they went and had sex in some new neighborhood. She's talking about their relationship. She's talking about that night.
Starting point is 00:35:42 The person dead, everything can be brought up about them, every weakness they've ever had, every struggle they've had. So she got to talk about whatever she wanted about Emmett. But in the end, Candy Hall came to her husband's defense, testifying that she had never intended to leave him and was committed to their marriage. They stayed together, even in the middle of court, they'd be like, I love you, and like to each other in regards to the shooting her testimony veered from her original statements to police.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Luckily, they took an interview with her the night it happened. She told all of what happened exactly. She said there was a pop pop pause pop and everything's on video. And then he got out 28 days later, went home to her for a full week without any stipulations. And so what the theory is, is they had time to kind of plan out a new story of what happened. And that's kind of the story she brought to court. The new story was, oh, I actually heard a pop, pop, pop. It was clear to the judge and jury that Kandee had changed her story.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And so the veracity, the truthfulness of her entire testimony was thrown into question. She was up there for two days because her story didn't match what she had said the night of. And they just kept asking her questions over and over and over. And the judge at the end was like, jury, anything she said here, I just want you to discredit everything she said. We'll just show you the video footage of the night. Candy Hall was clearly unfaithful. She tried to cover up her husband's guilt,
Starting point is 00:37:15 and now she was a perjurer. The judge said she is the most discredible witness he's ever called to his stand. On October 25th, 2012, Rob Hall was convicted of second degree murder and sentenced to 30 years to life in prison. I actually requested probably nine times to be able to talk to him, but they never approved it because anything I would have said could have been used against me in court. I wanted to tell him how it felt to have a four-year-old who didn't sleep for a year and to have little children that would come and say, Mom, what if the bad guy comes in and takes it? Like, I wanted him to know what his choice had done to me and my kids.
Starting point is 00:38:03 For Ashley, the loss of her husband was compounded by both the pain of his betrayal and the knowledge that another woman, Candy Hall, was still living just a couple of blocks from where Ashley was raising her children. I ran into Candy once at a restaurant. When I saw her, I ran into the bathroom and was just like, okay, this is it. I get to talk to her. I get to tell her how it felt I went up to her table And I didn't say a word. I just like my body was shaking and I just stared at her
Starting point is 00:38:33 I just had this like feeling wash over me. She doesn't care how it felt for you Incidentally just two months after the trial Candy Hall would be convicted of theft for embezzling $300,000 from a former employee and sentenced to 14 years in prison. As for Ashley, she went on to rebuild her life. She has since remarried and she and her husband have added two more children to the family, bringing the total to seven. They're doing amazing. They're successful. They're just out
Starting point is 00:39:06 living life. And that was the goal. And I mean, they have fears come up and we have to work through trust issues sometimes and just like everybody else, you know, the world's sometimes kind of hard to live in. But I see them showing up anyway. And I am just so proud to be their mom. I'm proud of the people they're becoming. In the years since her husband's death, Ashley has created a blog called The Moments We Stand,
Starting point is 00:39:34 in which she shares her personal journey of loss and healing. And when I turned it into a book, it was mainly because my grandma was printing off every story that I wrote and sending it to all of her friends, and I was like, okay, there's got to be an easier way, grandma. Through her blog, her now multiple books and speaking engagements, Ashley hopes to provide support for those dealing with grief, loss and trauma, particularly focusing on widowhood
Starting point is 00:39:59 and surviving infidelity and homicide. I wanted to hug every single person who had sent me their story because I would sit on my bed at night and just bawl and just read their stories and like, how are people so strong? How is the human spirit still alive? Like, how are we still functioning?
Starting point is 00:40:16 Because everybody's got a hard, hard story and I don't want them to be alone in theirs. So here we go. And we just kind of like throw up events and meet together and cry together and learn from each other. Ashley also founded a nonprofit to empower fellow survivors. The nonprofit is called The Reason to Stand. The purpose of it was just to help anyone who's ever felt broken not feel alone.
Starting point is 00:40:43 And we want to thank Ashley for being so candid about her experience with such a traumatic and painful event in her life, one in which she and her kids will always be coping and healing. I literally had a man in chains in front of me. And I didn't realize I also was just bound by the fears of what this experience told me I could live in. And letting go of the wrongs that people have done to you. I know sometimes like you want justice,
Starting point is 00:41:15 but mercy is also part of healing and just letting go and knowing that you're gonna be watched over. And in the end, you're gonna understand some of the things you went through. The irony of Candy Hall's role in this tragedy is almost too stark to comprehend. Her choices, calculated yet impulsive, didn't just set the stage. They built it, brick by brick, for a confrontation that would leave her husband locked away for decades and Emmett murdered. She was the fragile thread that tied them together and tugging on that thread,
Starting point is 00:41:49 everything unraveled in devastating fashion. I was so impressed how Ashley was able to endure, find love once again and raising her now seven children while advocating for others on how to forgive and find a way forward. I was so sad to hear her say that she felt that she wasn't good enough, she wasn't pretty enough, not worthy enough for her husband's attention. Ashley turned unimaginable pain into purpose, a story of survival, redemption, and a path forward that inspires others to do the same. and a path forward that inspires others to do the same.
Starting point is 00:42:27 What happened to Emmett Corrigan is awful. And yes, Emmett's infidelity was wrong, obviously, but Rob Hall's revenge, you don't get to take a life because someone did you wrong. Hall also took a father away from five children and a husband from a woman, Ashley, who still loved him very much, and at least at the time, wanted to try and make their family work and to get it back on track.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Talking with Ashley for this interview struck me for many reasons. For the pain she lived through while she didn't know what was wrong in her marriage, and then to be hit head on with her husband's murder, his infidelity, and that the murder was at the hand of the husband of the other partner in the affair? Devastating. Yet even with all that, it is Ashley's openness and strength that stays with me even now.
Starting point is 00:43:14 She made it back into light out of deep darkness. It is Ashley's goal to help others out of the darkness by sharing her experience. And for me, for us, that says so much about who she is. Survivor Strong. Tune in next week for another new episode of Anatomy of Murder. Anatomy of Murder is an audio-chuck original. Produ produced and created by Weinberger Media and Frasetti Media. Ashley Flowers is executive producer. This episode was written and produced by Walker Lamond researched by Kate Cooper edited by Ali Sirwa and Phil John Grande. So what do
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