Ancient Mysteries - How an FBI Agent Infiltrated America's Most Notorious Hate Group

Episode Date: August 17, 2026

One phone call. One false identity. Years of preparation.This documentary tells the extraordinary true story of an FBI undercover agent who spent years building a believable identity before infiltrati...ng one of America's most notorious hate groups. Drawing on documented events, we explore the training, psychological pressure, and split-second decisions required to maintain a cover in an environment where a single mistake could expose the entire operation. From undercover tradecraft and hidden ceremonies to the emotional cost of living a double life, this investigation reveals how complex these operations really are—and why the nature of extremist threats was already changing before the mission came to an end. Sometimes the greatest challenge isn't getting inside.It's remembering who you really are once you're there.💬 What surprised you most about this undercover operation?🔔 Subscribe for more documentaries about undercover investigations, hidden organizations, remarkable operations, and extraordinary true stories.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey there, history buffs. A dark field in rural Alabama, April 2017. A man stands blindfolded, hand on the shoulder of the guy in front of him, while voices recite an oath about serving the white race. Then a gunshot cracks into the night, and a voice announces that if there are snitches among us, we kill snitches. Nobody in that field knew that one of those men was an active FBI agent. Six foot four, two hundred and sixty pounds, covered in tattoos, nicknamed the redneck Donniebony Brasco. And getting in was less spy movie. More aggressive home. Mona's Association. There was a hotline. There was a rulebook. There was a written exam. So how did a guy with a badge end up on his knees in that field? Getting knighted with a sword, hit-like, and drop a
Starting point is 00:00:40 comment telling me what city you're watching from. Let's roll. So let's back up from that field and meet the man standing in it, because he is not who you would cast in this role. When you imagine an undercover FBI agent, your brain probably serves up something out of a spy thriller. Tailored suit. Cheekbones you could open envelopes with, speaks four languages, one of them just to show off. Orders a drink in a bar in Prague and somehow that is a plot point. Scott Payne is none of that. Scott Payne is a large southern man who looks like he could pick up your refrigerator, carry it up two flights of stairs, and then ask if you had any barbecue. He joined the FBI in 1998 and inside the bureau his call sign was big country, which tells you roughly everything.
Starting point is 00:01:18 He did not have an Ivy League diploma. He did not have a law degree or an accounting background, which for years were basically the two golden tickets into the bureau. He did not speak a single foreign language unless you count the dialect of the American South, which honestly does require subtitles in certain counties. On a stack of resumes, he would have been the one somebody put in the maybe pile and then forgot about under a coffee cup. And here is the delicious irony at the center of this entire story. That was the qualification. In almost every profession on earth, being unremarkable on paper as a problem you spend your whole career trying to fix. In deep cover work, it is the product. Nobody in a biker bar in the middle of nowhere is impressed by a man who can
Starting point is 00:01:56 discuss quarterly earnings. They are impressed by a man who looks like he belongs on the next stool, who can hold his liquor, who knows what a carburetor is, and who does not smell even faintly of federal government. The Bureau had spent years recruiting people who are extremely good at looking like the bureau. Then it needed someone who looked like the exact opposite. The skill is not charisma. The skill is being forgettable in a way that makes people comfortable. A great undercover agent walks into a room and lowers the temperature. Now, wanting to do this work and being allowed to do are two very different things, and in 2002, Payne went to find out which one he was. The FBI runs an undercover certification course at Quantico, and calling it a course is a bit like calling a hurricane
Starting point is 00:02:35 weather event, two weeks. No days off, no weekend to go home, do laundry, and remember that you have a family. And a curriculum built around a fairly ruthless philosophy, which is that any idiot can act tough when they're rested, fed, and reasonably confident nothing bad is happening. So the instructors simply removed all three. Sleep deprivation was not an unfortunate side effect of a schedule. It was deliberate. It was on the lesson plan, because in real operations, the moment your cover cracks is almost never the moment you're prepared for it. It is hour 19 of a day that started badly, in a room full of people who have been drinking since noon, when somebody asks a question about your childhood address, and your brain returns a blank screen with a small spinning wheel.
Starting point is 00:03:13 The instructors were not trying to see how the candidates performed. They were trying to see how they performed when the performance was the only thing left running, and everything underneath it had already shut down. So the scenarios came, and they came. constantly, role players who existed purely to knock candidates off balance, meetings that went sideways for no reason, interrogations, accusations, situations engineered so that whatever you said it was wrong, and then somebody demanded to know why you said it, and the instructors watching from behind the glass were not grading eloquence. They were grading whether the story stayed the same, whether the man in the chair could take a personal insult without his ego reaching for the
Starting point is 00:03:50 steering wheel, whether, when everything went wrong, he got quieter or louder. Loud, generally speaking, gets you killed. About 20 people started with him. Roughly half made it to the end, and the ones who washed out were not weak. They simply discovered, in a controlled environment with a lot of coffee and no actual danger, that they could not comfortably be someone else for two straight weeks, which is an incredibly useful thing to learn in a classroom, rather than in a parking lot outside a clubhouse at two in the morning. And then there is the detail from that school that Payne could not have written better if he had tried. Because of course, at some point during that course, the FBI brings in the legend, the man, the one whose story got made into the movie
Starting point is 00:04:27 every single person in that room had watched approximately nine times. Joe Pistone, the real Donny Brasco, the agent who spent six years inside the banana crime family and came out the other side, and whose name at that point functioned less as a name and more as a job title. Pistone walks through and Pestone is standing right there, and Pistone does not see him, steps right on his feet. Then, without breaking stride and without particularly caring, tosses him a couple of dollars for the shoeshine, a joke, a brush-off. The kind of thing you would forget by lunch if it had happened to anyone else, except the guy getting stepped on was a rookie who had not yet done any of it, and about 15 years later he would be standing in a field in Alabama with his hand on a stranger's
Starting point is 00:05:05 shoulder, taking an oath he did not know the words to. The $2, by the way, are the single most sarcastic tuition payment in the history of federal law enforcement, which brings us to the actual craft and the part of this job that Hollywood consistently gets backwards, because the first thing you build is not a disguise. It is a person. In the trade it is called a legend, not a fake name, not a costume, an entire manufactured human being with a childhood, a job history, a taste in music, opinions about trucks, an ex-wife situation, and a specific reason to be standing in the room he is standing in. The rule everyone in the business repeats is that you must know the legend better than you know your own life, and that is not a poetic exaggeration. Your own life comes
Starting point is 00:05:45 with a safety net. If somebody asks where you went to high school, you say the name, you say the and you are done, because it is true, and true things do not require maintenance. A legend requires maintenance forever, in every direction, permanently, and the person asking is quite often specifically asking to see if it breaks. The best legends are also lazy in the smartest possible way, meaning they borrow as much from the truth as they can get away with. Paines was a man named Scott Callaway, which conveniently kept the first name, so that if somebody hollered it across a parking lot, he would actually turn around instead of standing there like a man whose phone alarm is going off in someone else's pocket. Callaway was Southern, because Payne is Southern, and nobody can fake that
Starting point is 00:06:23 accent for longer than a sentence and a half. Callaway rode Harleys, because Payne rides Harleys, and there is no cramming for that final exam. Calloway drank whiskey, like the same music, told the same kind of jokes, and had one crucial addition Payne did not have, which was a resume of crime and the friends that come with it. So the character was about 90% real man and 10% invention, and the 10% was the part that could get him killed. In the movies the agent transforms. In reality, the agent subtracts. You take yourself, remove the badge, remove the mortgage, remove the fact that your daughter has a recital on Thursday and then bolt on a criminal history. What is left is a guy who is uncomfortably, disturbingly close to you, which is exactly why it works and exactly why it wrecks people.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Pain has his own framing for what this profession actually is, and it reframes the whole thing. Undercover work is not acting. It is not even lying. Not in the way most people mean it. It is building genuine relationships with human beings that you have already. decided in advance to betray. Sit with that one for a second, because it does not get less uncomfortable the longer you look at it. The laughter is real. The favours are real. When a man tells you about his divorce at four in the morning in a parking lot, that is a real man having a real bad night,
Starting point is 00:07:33 and you are really the person he chose to tell. When you help him move a couch, you actually carried the couch. Nothing about the friendship is a performance, which is precisely why it is convincing, and precisely why it is a trap with your own foot in it. The only false thing in the whole arrangement is the ending, and you are the only one who has read it, which is a fantastically efficient way to destroy someone from the inside, and we will get to what that cost him, because it does come due, with interest, in a way that puts him on a sofa staring at a wall for six months. But before that, we should cover the piece of tradecraft that is going to matter more than anything else in this story, because it is the small, boring detail that keeps him alive, the recording device.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Every instinct says, tape it to your body. That is what the movies do. That is what makes narrative sense. The wire is under the shirt against the skin, taped down, dramatic, and someone always sweats through it in the third act. In the real world, that instinct is a way to die in a parking lot, because tape means the device is attached to you, and if anyone finds it, there is no version of the next five seconds where it belongs to somebody else. There is no explanation. There is no bluffing. It is on your skin, therefore it is yours, therefore the room now knows exactly what you are, and the room is generally not a group of people who resolve disputes through mediation. So the rule is the opposite of the instinct.
Starting point is 00:08:47 The device never goes on the body. It goes in the clothing, in a seam, in a lining, in something that can be taken off, dropped, kicked under a truck, left on a bar stool or in the absolute worst case, denied. Clothes are objects. Objects can be borrowed, mixed up, or belong to somebody else. A gadget taped to your ribs is a confession with adhesive backing. It is the difference between a man who retires and a man who does not,
Starting point is 00:09:08 and there is going to come a night in this story when that specific detail is the only thing standing between pain and a very bad conversation with people who have already explained at length and with visual aids how they feel about informants. So that is the toolkit, an unremarkable giant with a nickname, a certification earned by staying calm while professionals tried to take him apart, a second self assembled mostly out of his actual self, and a hard rule about where the recorder goes. What he does not have yet is any credibility in the world he needs to enter. Nobody hands a stranger the keys to a criminal organisation because he seems nice and knows a lot about motorcycles. He's going to have to earn that biography the hard way, and he is going
Starting point is 00:09:47 to earn it inside one of the most notorious Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs in the country, which turns out to be an 18-month audition for a role he does not yet know exists. The club in question was the Outlaw's Motorcycle Club, and if that name does not immediately mean anything to you, here is the shorthand. In the world of Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs, the Hells Angels are the brand everybody knows, the one with the logo on T-shirts and tourist shops. The outlaws are their oldest and most enthusiastic rivals, and the rivalry between them has historically been settled through means that fall well outside the standard dispute resolution process. Payne would spend a year and a half inside that world, and the first problem he had to solve was the one nobody thinks about,
Starting point is 00:10:24 which is simply how you meet them, because you cannot walk up. That is the entire trick, and it is completely counterintuitive. Every instinct in a normal human being says that to join a group, you approach the group, introduce yourself and be charming. In this environment that behaviour is not charming. It is a red flag with a siren attached. Nobody just wanders up to a table of patched club members and starts a friendship. The only people who do that are drunks, idiots and cops, and only one of those categories gets shot. So the move is to become interesting enough that they approach you, which is a genuinely absurd social engineering problem because you have to be magnetic without ever appearing to want anything. Like a man fishing while pretending he does not care
Starting point is 00:11:02 whether he catches something and also pretending he is not holding a rod. Pain's solution was to take over a bar. Not violently. He simply became the loudest, most entertaining, most obviously fun thing in the building the guy everyone was watching, buying rounds, telling stories, being enormous and southern and impossible to ignore. And this worked because he had already identified his target, a member with a nickname that will never stop being funny in a story this dark. Spanky. And Spanky, crucially, was a man who liked attention, loved it, considered it his birthright. So when a stranger walked into the room and started vacuuming up all the available attention in the immediate area, Spanky did not smell a rat. Spanky smelled competition, and he came over to reassert dominance exactly the way a cat comes to sit on the one
Starting point is 00:11:46 piece of paper you're trying to read, which is how one of the most successful infiltrations in modern federal law enforcement began, not with a clever cover story, with a man being so annoyingly popular that a biker had to come deal with it personally. From there, the process is slow and unglamorous. Nobody gets handed anything. You do not prove yourself with one dramatic act of violence in a rainstorm. You prove yourself by being around, constantly for months, and by being useful. Show up. Buy the beer. Fix the thing. Know a guy. Do not ask questions, because asking questions is what cops do, and everyone in that world has an alarm permanently wired to that exact behaviour. Instead, you wait until they explain things to you unprompted,
Starting point is 00:12:23 out of boredom or pride, which they eventually do, because criminals are people and people cannot resist telling you how clever they are. And the crimes, when they finally arrive, are so much dumber than you would hope. The first serious business pain got involved in was motorcycle insurance fraud, which is exactly what it sounds like. You insure a bike, the bike mysteriously vanishes, you collect a check, and the bike is quietly living a new life, several states away with different paperwork and a fresh coat of resentment. It is a grand criminal enterprise built entirely on a form and a phone call. Somewhere out there is an insurance adjuster from that era, who is still not emotionally recovered from how many motorcycles were apparently stolen from the same three parking lots.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Then it escalated, as these things do, to moving vehicles across an international border, which is where the paperwork stops being funny and the sentences stop being short. And over roughly a year, this is the arrangement that develops. Payne is not observing crimes from the corner. He is a participant. He is in the truck. He is on the phone. He is a working member of a criminal operation who happens to file federal paperwork about it afterward,
Starting point is 00:13:24 which is a workload that would make anybody question their choices. And then comes the finale. And the finale is where you can really appreciate the sheer theatre involved. The Bureau constructed a drug deal, a big one. Roughly £88 of cocaine and close to £1,000 of marijuana, which is not a transaction that is a small warehouse changing hands. The outlaws were brought in to move it, and everyone involved understood the stakes and the danger
Starting point is 00:13:47 and the very serious criminal organisations on both ends of this thing. Except neither end existed. The cartel supplying the product was the FBI. The buyers receiving the product were also the FBI. It was federal agents selling federal drugs to federal agents, with a motorcycle club in the middle, providing the only real criminal intent in the entire operation. Somewhere in that story,
Starting point is 00:14:07 there is a moment where two undercover agents had to negotiate a price with each other while keeping straight faces, and I would pay actual money to see that footage, the world's most expensive piece of improvised theatre, and the only people who bought tickets are now serving time for it. The operation was called Roadkill, which is named the bureau clearly workshopped in a room where nobody had feelings, and it ended with 15 arrests, a solid textbook result. But for our story, the arrests are almost beside the point.
Starting point is 00:14:33 The real product of those 18 months was not the case file. It was pain, because he came out of it with something no amount of preparation can manufacture. Not a paper identity, a lived one. A verifiable, chewed-up, road-tested history as a violent white biker with a criminal records worth of stories. Real names he could drop. bars he had actually been thrown out of, real people who would vouch for him without being asked. He had opinions that matched. He had scars that matched. He had a past that a suspicious person could poke at for hours and only find more of, which brings us to the invoice. Because none of this is
Starting point is 00:15:05 free. The uncomfortable truth at the centre of this profession is one we touched on earlier, and it stops being an abstract idea the moment you attach names to it. And the name here is Scott Town, also an outlaw, and the two of them lined up in a way that was almost cosmically unfair. Same kind of humour, same taste in bikes, same instincts. They even had daughters the same age, which meant that at some point these two men were standing in a parking lot outside a clubhouse, comparing notes about school and attitude and how fast it all goes. One of them a federal agent, both of them entirely sincere. That is the part people cannot get their heads around. The friendship was not a tactic. You cannot spend a year with someone at that proximity and manufacture warmth on demand,
Starting point is 00:15:43 and then there was a member called Clothes Line, whose real name was Brian Devanyo, and who at some point said the thing that nobody once said to them under these circumstances. He told Payne that out of everyone he knew, there were maybe two or three people he would take a bullet for, and Payne was one of them. Take a second with that. This man is not being manipulated into saying it. He is not performing loyalty for an audience. He means it completely. He has thought about it. He has ranked the people in his life by whether he would die for them, and the guy at the top of that list is currently wearing a recording device sewn into his clothes. None of this feels good. The compliment is real, the affection is real, and the response has to be something warm and true, and also, structurally,
Starting point is 00:16:23 a lie. The Bureau does not have a training module for that. There is no elective at Quantico called managing the emotional consequences of being loved by people you are actively destroying. There is a certification for being calm under pressure. There is nothing for this. And then the last day arrives, which is where it turns genuinely brutal. Because before the takedown, pain is on the phone with town, a normal conversation, regular business, regular jokes, two friends talking, the way they had a hundred times, and it ends the way their calls ended, with both of them saying they loved each other, brother, which in that world is not a throwaway phrase. It is the highest thing a man in that culture is willing to say out loud.
Starting point is 00:16:58 45 minutes later, SWAT went through the door. That is the job. Not the guns, not the drugs, not the 88 pounds of federally owned cocaine. Forty-five minutes. That is the gap between the last honest sentence and the battering ram. And Payne was the only person on that call who knew the timer was running. So it should surprise absolutely nobody that the man came apart after The Bureau has a term for what he was, and the term is bureaucratically perfect in its coldness. Over-assigned. That is it. That is the official diagnosis for a human being who has spent years living as somebody else, betraying men who loved him, at a volume and frequency no person is built for. Not traumatized, not broken, over-assigned, like a printer with too many jobs in the queue,
Starting point is 00:17:39 and the bill came due physically because it always does. He had a severe panic attack, the kind that does not politely announce itself, the kind where your body simply decides the emergency is now and does not consult you about the timing. And this happens to a man who had professionally sat in rooms with people who would have killed him without a discussion and kept his pulse flat the entire time. The nervous system does not send a warning. It just quietly keeps a ledger, and then one ordinary afternoon it presents the total. He was pulled off field work for six months. Half a year on the sidelines, which for someone whose entire identity had been built around being the guy who can do the impossible assignment is its own particular flavour of miserable, and this matters enormously
Starting point is 00:18:17 for everything that comes next, so hold on to it. When Payne eventually walks into that field in Alabama, he is not arriving at peak condition, fresh and sharp and ready. He is arriving already damaged, already carrying a year and a half of manufactured friendships that ended in handcuffs, plus whatever six months on a couch does to a man who does not know how to sit still. The version of him who takes that oath in the dark is a repaired thing, not a new one, and repaired things have visible seams. Now let's leave him there for a moment. Because to understand what he walked into, you have to understand what the Ku Klux Klan actually was by 2017, and the answer is genuinely stranger than most people assume. Start with the beginning, because the beginning is not ambiguous.
Starting point is 00:18:56 The clan was born in the wreckage immediately after the Civil War, and historians will tell you plainly that it constitutes the first terrorist movement in American history, not a metaphor, not an edgy comparison, a structural one. Here was an organization using coordinated, hooded, deniable violence to achieve a political outcome, specifically the reversal of black political participation through fear applied systematically to civilians, and the methods were designed for exactly that. Lynchings, public whippings. Schools burned to the ground because a school for black children was understood correctly as a threat to the entire arrangement. Night visits to the homes of families whose only offence was that someone in them had registered to vote or run for office,
Starting point is 00:19:36 or spoken at a meeting, or simply been successful enough to be noticed. The targets were chosen not at random but with precision, and the point was never only the person harmed. The point was everyone who heard about it afterward and adjusted their behavior accordingly. That is what terrorism is, and it worked for a horrifyingly long time, which makes what the organisation turned into by the 21st century almost impossible to reconcile, because by 2017 the clan was not a national force. It was a rummage sale. There was no single clan. There has not been a single clan for a very long time. What existed instead was several dozen tiny outfits scattered across the country, each one claiming to be the real one, each one
Starting point is 00:20:15 squabbling with the others over the name, over territory, over the mailing list, and above all, over the dues. Because these groups charge membership fees, and the fees are the actual bloodstream of the whole enterprise, which means a substantial amount of modern clan drama is not ideological warfare. It is a budget dispute. It is two rival Grand Wizards sending each other extremely aggressive messages about who owns a logo, and the membership, on average, was old, not a youth movement, not the future of anything. A collection of aging men in a shrinking organization, holding meetings, collecting fees,
Starting point is 00:20:46 and reassuring each other that the numbers were about to turn around any day now. A belief system common to Klansmen and to people who run failing restaurants, which is exactly why what happens next is so unsettling, because a group can be pathetic and dangerous at the same time. Those are not opposites. A disorganized outfit with 40 aging members and a treasury of $1,100 still contains individuals with weapons, convictions, and the specific enthusiasm required to act alone.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Impotence at the organisational level does not equal harmlessness at the human level, and confusing the two is exactly how people get hurt. Now the particular brand pain would end up entering was United Clans of America, and that name carries a specific weight, because in the 1960s through the 1980s, the UKA was not one of the harmless ones. It was the largest, and by a comfortable margin, the most violent faction in the country, connected to bombings, beatings and murders during the civil rights era, an organization that treated terror as an operational strategy rather than a rhetorical flourish.
Starting point is 00:21:41 And the thing that finally destroyed it was not a raid. It was a lawsuit. In 1981, a 19-year-old named Michael Donald was murdered in Mobile Alabama by Klansman, a killing so deliberately public in its cruelty that it was designed to be seen. His mother, Buehler-May Donald, went after the organization itself, not just the men who did it. In 1987, a jury returned a verdict against the United Clans of America for $7 million. dollars, an amount the organization could not begin to pay, so it paid what it had, including, famously, the deed to its own headquarters building, which was handed over to the mother of the young man its members had murdered. The largest and most violent clan faction in America was not
Starting point is 00:22:19 brought down by federal agents or a shootout. It was bankrupted in civil court by one woman who refused to accept that an organization could hide behind its hoods, and the largest asset it had left ended up in her name. There is no ending in this entire story more satisfying than that one. But brands do not die when the company does. The name survived, drifting around, getting picked up by small local outfits that liked how heavy it sounded, right up until 2017, when a very large man with an 18-month biker as Zoom decided to see what it took to get in. The answer, it turns out, was a phone call. Think about that for a second. A secret society.
Starting point is 00:22:52 An organisation that historically built its entire identity around hoods, oaths, hidden membership, and the theatrical implication that you could be standing next to one of them at the hardware store and never know. an outfit whose whole aesthetic is that you cannot find them, they find you, they have a hotline, a phone number, you call it, and a Klansman answers. Presumably between other calls, whatever mystique the hoods were doing, the customer service line undoes it completely. So Payne calls, and the man on the other end goes by John Jack, a nickname that turns out to have nothing to do with lineage or rank or ancient symbolism, and everything to do with the fact that he really liked Jack Daniels, which is honestly refreshing.
Starting point is 00:23:30 In an organisation obsessed with pretending to be an ancient mystic, order. Here is a guy whose entire identity is a whiskey preference, and he is not even slightly embarrassed about it. Now, this is the moment where you would expect security. Some kind of screening. A password, a reference, a callback, literally anything. What pain gives him is a story about running into some bikers at a gas station who talked to him a while and handed him this number. That is it. That is the whole vetting package. A stranger on the phone claims that some other strangers he cannot name gave him a phone number at a gas station, and this passes. because it sounds like exactly the sort of thing that actually happens in that world.
Starting point is 00:24:07 And then the conversation turns, because John Jack, like most people who suddenly have a sympathetic listener, starts venting about work because he has a problem. He is organising the annual gathering, which is the big one, the calendar event. The thing people drive across state lines for, and the entertainment has collapsed. There was one band, not a line-up, not a rotation, one band. And the singer just got locked up, which in fairness is the single most predictable staffing risk in this entire subculture. You cannot even call it bad luck. It is more of an actuarial certainty.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Somewhere in the planning documents, there should have been a line item that just says, In the event our vocalist is incarcerated, break glass. So here is a man in a genuine event planning crisis, with tents booked and people coming and a stage and nobody to stand on it, complaining to a total stranger on a phone line. And Payne, who has been in the conversation for a few minutes, says the thing that changes everything. He mentions that he happens to be a musician,
Starting point is 00:25:00 and a singer he was not calling to audition. This was not in the plan. There was no plan. That is the point. There is a specific kind of instinct that separates people who are good at this from people who merely survive it, and it is the ability to hear an opening in the middle of someone else's complaint, and step into it before your own brain finishes objecting. A normal person hears a man venting about a band, pain hears a vacancy, and then he doubles down, because a musician is nice, but a musician with equipment is a solution. He offers to bring his acoustic guitar and, crucially, his own sound system. the whole rig, which means John Jack no longer has to source a band, a stage setup, or an amplifier from a community not exactly overflowing with logistics professionals. Watch what just happened, because it is beautiful. 30 seconds earlier, Payne was an unknown man with an unverifiable story trying to get into a closed organisation. Now, he is the guy who is fixing the event.
Starting point is 00:25:52 He is not asking to be let in. He is being asked to please, definitely, absolutely come, and can you get there early to set up? He inverted the entire dynamic with one sentence. He is not a stranger seeking admission. He is a vendor with a contract, and nobody interrogates the vendor. Nobody stands at the gate demanding background information from the man carrying the speakers, because if he leaves, the event has no sound, and notice how brutally efficient this is compared to the 18-month grind with the motorcycle club.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Over there, he had to earn his way in through months of proximity and usefulness, and the occasional federal crime. Here, he found the organisation's actual weak point on the first phone call, and it was not ideology or security or suspicion. It was a scheduling gap, which brings us to April 21st, 2017, and a drive that did not go smoothly. The gathering was not at an address. There was no venue name, no pin you could drop, no listing anywhere, because the location was a private piece of land in a part of Alabama, where the roads are mostly suggestions. Pain got lost, repeatedly, turned around more than once, doubled back, tried again, doing the universal ritual of squinting at a road and asking yourself whether that was the turn,
Starting point is 00:26:58 while sitting on a truck full of sound equipment on his way to infiltrate a hate group, not exactly the sleek operational tempo you see in the movies. More like a man late to a wedding. And what he finally arrives at is nothing. An empty fenced lot in the middle of open country. No signage, no banner, no indication that anything whatsoever is happening here, which is arguably the most effective security measure the entire organisation possesses, and it is entirely accidental.
Starting point is 00:27:23 The actual landmark was the men at the gate. They are called the Nighthawks, which is the security. wing, and they were dressed in black and openly armed, standing at the entrance to a field, checking who came in. One detail there is worth pausing on. A significant portion of the men serving as armed security had criminal records, because in that world a record is not a disqualification on the application. It is the application. So pain gets waved through, and what is on the other side of that gate is the part of this story that genuinely rearranges your expectations, because it is a fair, not a rally, a fair, there are vendor tents. People selling merchandise,
Starting point is 00:27:58 selling food, selling patches and flags, and whatever else moves at an event like this. Country music playing, barbecue smoke, and children, actual children. Running around the way children run around at any outdoor event anywhere in America, while their parents stand in clusters holding drinks and catching up, complaining about the drive, asking after somebody's back surgery. And also, off to one side, the crosses, already built, already prepared, standing ready for the burning later that evening, the way a stage crew preps for a fireworks finale.
Starting point is 00:28:27 That is the combination that pain was not braced for, and it is the thing everyone underestimates about extremism. He had been expecting something roughly like an outlaw motorcycle event, rough crowd, hard drinking, an undercurrent of menace, criminal business happening in the corners. He knew that world. He had just spent a year and a half in it. This was not that. This was a family picnic with terror equipment on the guest list. And the reason that is so much more disturbing than a room full of obvious thugs is that it is normal. Menace is easy to categorize. When everything about a place announces danger. Your brain files it correctly and you keep your back to the wall. But when a man is holding a paper plate and telling you about his truck problems, and then,
Starting point is 00:29:06 in the same tone, with the same face, moves on to who ought to be dealt with and how, your brain has nowhere to put that. Nothing changes, no signal fires. There is no shift in music or lighting. It is just conversation, and the conversation happens to include violence, positioned between a song and a plate of ribs like any other topic. The horror is not that it feels evil. The horror is that it feels like a church cookout that took a wrong turn several decades ago and never asked for directions. And then comes the part that no screenwriter would dare include because it would break the tone of the entire film and it happens to be completely true. To join, you have to study. I want to be clear about what this means. This is an organisation with a
Starting point is 00:29:45 documented history of murder and the pathway to membership runs through homework. There is a constitution. There are bylaws. There are rules about conduct, rules about dues, rules about what you may and may not do while wearing the robe. All of it written down, all of it enforced with the grim enthusiasm of the world's least fun neighbourhood association. If the clan ever seemed like an anarchic mob to you, correct that immediately. The clan is a filing system that occasionally commits felonies. Payne had to learn the constitution, he had to learn the internal rules, and he had to study the organisation's handbook called the Cloran, which is the central text of clan procedure, and is, I promise you, mostly about ceremony and ritual and correct order of operations. Not a manifest
Starting point is 00:30:25 a procedure manual. It tells you who stands where, who says what, in what sequence, and what everything is called, and everything has a name, because in this organization nothing is allowed to simply be a thing. Then there is what they call the original mystic symbolism, which is the part where the whole enterprise reveals its true nature as cosplay with a body count. Every element has a supposedly ancient meaning. Colors mean things, objects mean things, the robes mean things, the ranks mean things. The ceremonies allegedly descend from some deep and vener. general tradition, and none of it is old. It was largely invented by men in the 19th and early 20th centuries, who wanted the emotional payoff of belonging to a mysterious ancient order
Starting point is 00:31:05 without the inconvenience of one existing. And then there is the K situation, because the letter K is not a preference in this organisation, it is a compulsion. Everything gets it. The vocabulary is stuffed with words that have been forcibly converted, and the classes new members attend are naturally spelled with a K class. You attend class, in a room, with a teacher, taking notes. It is the world's most sinister community college, and the branding is being handled by a man who discovered illiteration in 1915 and has never recovered. On one hand, it is genuinely funny. Grown men, deadly serious, running a study group with a spelling gimmick and a handbook, awarding themselves titles that sound like a fantasy novel, produced on a very tight budget. On the other hand,
Starting point is 00:31:47 these are the procedures of an organization that spent a century terrorizing people, and the reason it survived as long as it did is precisely because it had procedures. The silly words are load-bearing. At the ceremony, and suddenly a few resentful men in a field believe they are part of something with history and authority behind it, which is exactly the belief that gets people to do things they would never do alone. And then, before you can be measured for your robe, there is the exam. It is called Kuno, and it stands for character, honour, duty, which are three qualities the organisation has spent its entire existence, demonstrating a complete absence of, and it is administered as an actual test. You are expected to know the material. You can
Starting point is 00:32:25 fail it. And until you pass, you do not get fitted, which means no robe, which means at the ceremonies you are standing there in regular clothes among the hoods, like a guy who did not read the invitation carefully. So the final barrier standing between a federal agent and full membership in the oldest domestic terror organisation in America was a quiz. Not a background check, not a polygraph, not a single phone call to any of the people whose names he had been dropping. A quiz on a rulebook. Study the handbook. Sit the test. Pass. Get measured. And Payne, a man who had already been vetted at gunpoint by significantly more paranoid organizations, sat down and did his homework, which has to be the most surreal evening of studying in the history of federal law enforcement.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Somewhere in Alabama in April 2017, there is a hotel room where an FBI agent quietly reviewed ceremonial vocabulary for an exam like a man cramming for a certification his employer required. He passed, obviously. He had spent his career memorizing an entire fictional life. A handbook was not going to be the thing that stopped him. What he did not know, as he was being congratulated and welcomed and told about the evening's schedule, was that there was one more item on the agenda that nobody had explained to him that was not in the handbook,
Starting point is 00:33:32 and that involved a blindfold. The evening arrives, the sun goes down over the field, and somebody announces that the new members are invited to take part in the naturalisation, which is a word Payne has never heard used in this context in his life, and he has no idea what it involves, nobody explains it, nobody hands out a schedule, it is simply announced,
Starting point is 00:33:50 in the tone of a man calling everyone in for dinner, and there is an expectation attached to it, that anyone with functioning social instincts can feel from across the field. And this is the exact spot where undercover work becomes a genuinely awful profession, because he has approximately three seconds to make a decision with no information whatsoever. Option one. Say no thanks. Perfectly reasonable. Completely safe on paper. And absolutely fatal because the only man at that gathering who would decline the ceremony is a man who has a reason to avoid it, and there are only a few categories of person like that. and every one of them ends in a bad night.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Option two, walk into a completely undefined ritual, in the dark, in a field with armed men run by an organisation whose historical hobby was doing things to people in fields at night. He goes, obviously he goes, that is the job. The entire discipline comes down to understanding that hesitation is more dangerous than the thing you are hesitating about. They blindfold the new guys, the world goes black, and then a hand guides his right hand onto the shoulder of whoever is standing in front of him, and now there is a chain of blind men being led across uneven ground by people they cannot see, in a place with no address, at night,
Starting point is 00:34:58 standard team building. Now appreciate the particular flavour of nightmare this represents specifically for him, because this is a man whose entire professional survival depends on reading the room, reading faces, reading posture, watching hands, noticing when the energy shifts, tracking exits. All of that has just been switched off. He's walking into the dark, holding a stranger, listening to grass and boots with a recording device in his clothing. If he had a single frantic thought during that walk, it was probably about the sewing. They stop. He's told to raise his right hand and repeat after them. And then the oath comes, line by line, the way oaths always do, one phrase at a time,
Starting point is 00:35:35 delivered so you have to say it back before you have finished processing it, swearing from this moment on to serve the good of the white race, and so on and on into territory nobody wants coming out of their own mouth in their own voice. and somewhere in the middle of the text, hands push him down onto his knees, still blindfolded, still reciting, which is, from a pure stagecraft perspective, an extremely effective piece of design. Whoever built this ceremony understood exactly what they were doing.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Remove sight, remove balance, remove the ability to leave, and make the man speak the words himself out loud in his own body. That is not an initiation. That is a psychological procedure. You're not being told you belong now, you're being made to produce the evidence yourself, and some part of the brain does not fully distinguish between saying a thing under duress
Starting point is 00:36:19 in a dark field and meaning it. Then the blindfold comes off, and standing in front of him is a clansman in a green robe, because colour denotes rank in this organisation. And this particular shade means he is somebody. In his hands is a sword, an actual sword in Alabama in 2017, held by a man who almost certainly drove there in a pickup truck, and with that sword he performs the nighting, tapping the kneeling new members, formerly making them part of the organisation. I have to say it, because the picture demands it. This is a full medieval fantasy sequence being performed by grown men in a rented field with a sound system that a federal agent brought in his truck. The costume department is a bed sheet supplier. The weapon is decorative. The setting is a cow pasture, and it works on the
Starting point is 00:37:00 people present completely because that is the whole business model. Give a man a title, a robe with a color that means something, and a ceremony with a sword in it, and he will feel like a knight rather than what he actually is, which is a middle-aged guy who pays monthly dues to be angry in a group. Then comes the part that ruins the comedy, which is the celebration afterward. Hugs, genuine ones, handshakes, backslaps, welcomes, men congratulating him with real warmth, delighted that he has joined, treating him like family within minutes of meeting him, because that is the actual product on sale here and always has been, not ideology, belonging. The hatred is the membership requirement. The belonging is the reason anybody stays,
Starting point is 00:37:38 and then, as a closing flourish, gunfire into the night sky, and the reminder delivered along with it about what happens to informants, which lands somewhat differently when you are the informant, standing in the circle, being embraced by people, while they cheerfully announce the policy on people exactly like you. Roughly 100% of the men in that field meant it as a general statement of principle. One man in that field received it as a performance review. What stress does to a human brain shows up in what happens next, because pain does not have the big realization during any of that. Not during the walk, not during the oath, not while kneeling in front of a man with a sword. During the ceremony he is running on pure operational autopilot, doing the next correct thing and the next, because that is what training is for.
Starting point is 00:38:20 It hits him afterward, walking back toward his pickup in the dark alone, when the adrenaline drains out and the analytical part of his mind clocks back in and delivers its report, which is, more or less, that he appears to have just joined the clan, not infiltrated, not observed, joined. He raised his hand, he said the words, he took the oath, he got knighted, and somewhere in a ledger there is now a name on a membership list. He was, technically and ceremonially, and by every internal standard the organisation recognises, a member of the Ku Klux Klan, holding a badge in his other life. And after all of that, here is the twist nobody expects. It went nowhere. Not because he got caught. He did not.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Not because the cover failed. It never did. The case fizzled for the most boring possible reason, which is that there was very little crime in it. Because once you're inside, past the ceremony and the sword and the dramatic oath, what the modern clan actually does is talk, meetings, dews, endlessly. Ceremony, more ritual, enormous amounts of hateful, ugly, deeply unpleasant conversation, which is genuinely vile to sit through, and is also, in a courtroom, not a crime. You cannot indict a man for being repulsive at a picnic, and that is the deflating reality of the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:39:28 An undercover agent needs conspiracy, weapons, offences, planning, an act, something with elements you can lay out in front of a jury. What he found was a social club with a terrible history and a payment schedule. All that ceremony was not covering up an operation. The ceremony was the operation. That was the product. That was what the dues were buying. So the case sat there, going nowhere, absorbing time. And while it sat there, four months later and a few hundred miles away, the thing that was actually coming announced itself. Charlottesville, August 2017, the Unite the Right rally, which was not old men in robes in a field, but a large, young, energized, openly organized crowd of white nationalists marching in an American city with torches. And it ended with a car driven deliberately into a crowd of counter-protesters,
Starting point is 00:40:10 and the death of a 32-year-old woman named Heather Heyer, and the significance for this story is structural. Everything Payne had spent months learning to navigate. The hoods, the handbook, the titles, the quiz, was an artifact. A survival from a previous century, kept alive by ceremony and habit. The people in Charlottesville had no interest in any of it. No robes, no clorin, no sword. They organized online in encrypted chats,
Starting point is 00:40:34 in a language that had nothing to do with mystic symbolism and everything to do with modern extremist networks that assemble in weeks rather than generations. More importantly, the goal had changed, and this is the part that matters more than anything else in the final act. The old model wanted to preserve a social order. It wanted parades, influence, respectability, the ability to intimidate a community
Starting point is 00:40:56 while remaining a fixture of that community. It wanted to belong to the town, on its own terms. What was rising instead was accelerationism, and accelerationism does not want influence. It considers the entire political system beyond reform, and therefore not worth capturing. It wants collapse. The theory is that the state should be pushed into failure, deliberately, through violence aimed at infrastructure, at power grids, at civil order itself, and that out of the wreckage something can be built. There is no version of that
Starting point is 00:41:24 ideology that involves a membership quiz. You cannot bankrupt it with a lawsuit, because there is nothing to sue, no headquarters, no assets, no name on a deed. It is a set of ideas moving through networks of people who have never met, which is why the Bureau pulled pain off the clan and pointed him at a group called the base, and the contrast is total. No robes, no ceremonies, no dues, no handbook. Instead, training camps, firearms and tactical instruction, operational planning, discussions of targeted killings of specific people, preparation for what they called the bugaloo, which is the deeply unserious slang term this movement adopted for an extremely serious concept, namely the civil war they were actively trying to trigger. That is the modern face of it,
Starting point is 00:42:05 and it says everything that the men planning armed insurrection gave it a joke, name, because the joke is the recruitment tool, and the plans underneath it are not funny at all. That world is not aging out. That world does not hold a barbecue. That world is what Payne walked into next, and it very nearly finished him, which is a story for another day. As for the man himself, he retired in June 2021, after more than two decades of being other people. And on June 30th, the day of his send-off, the day was officially declared Scott Payne Day, which is an honor almost nobody receives, and which is also, if you think about it, a very funny thing to give a man. who spent his entire career making sure nobody knew his name.
Starting point is 00:42:42 But there is one more thing about the base, and it is the reason this story does not end here, because among all the encrypted chats and the training camps and the men planning a war they believed was already starting, there was one moment in a room with a very large man from South Carolina, a group of true believers, and a decision that had to be made in a fraction of a second. And it comes down to a piece of tradecraft we talked about at the very beginning,
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