Ask Dr. Drew - 300 Named In New Epstein List: Psycho Elites Want You Distracted From The Invisible Coup w/ Peter Schweizer & Mel K – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 588

Episode Date: February 21, 2026

Another day, another new Epstein “list”. AG Pam Bondi revealed over 300 “politically exposed persons” who were redacted from the Epstein Files. What does being named actually mean — and what doesn’t it mean? Why would hundreds of leaders — including a near 50/50 split of Democrats and Republicans — risk everything to engage with a known criminal predator? Dr. Drew and Mel K dig in to the new names, tribal behavior, selective outrage, and psychological explanations for why elites would became entangled in a global web of institutional corruption and abuse. Author Peter Schweizer joins to discuss “The Invisible Coup” exposing how mass migration and CCP financial spigots are being weaponized as psychological warfare to destabilize the American mind. Peter Schweizer is President of the Government Accountability Institute and host of GAI’s podcast, The Drill Down. He is a five-time #1 New York Times bestselling author. He received his M.Phil. from Oxford University and his B.A. from George Washington University. Follow at https://x.com/peterschweizer Mel K is host of The Mel K Show and author of Question Everything: A Field Guide to Open-Minded Exploration (2025) and Americans Anonymous: Restoring Power to the People One Citizen at a Time (2024). A graduate of NYU, she worked in media, film, and investigative journalism for over two decades. Follow at https://x.com/MelKShow 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • STRONG CELL – If you want to feel more like your younger self, go to https://strongcell.com/ and use code DREW for 20% off. • AUGUSTA PRECIOUS METALS – Thousands of Americans are moving portions of their retirement into physical gold & silver. Learn more in this 3-minute report from our friends at Augusta Precious Metals: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/gold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or text DREW to 35052 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://drdrew.com/vshredmd • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

First up, we've got Peter Schweitzer, president of government accountability institute, host of GAI's podcast. The Drill Down, he is a five-time, number one New York time bestseller author, received his master's of philosophy from Oxford and his BA from George Washington University. You can follow him on X at Peter Schweitzer, S-C-H-W-E-I-Z-E-R. I don't believe there's a T, no T. And then we'll be followed by Mel Kay, who we've spoken to before, of course, The Mel Kay Show, author of Question Everything and Americans Anonymous, also an upcoming book she's going to talk about and how we have been betrayed in this country. Her current book, Americans Anonymous, restoring power to the people, one citizen at a time. Yeah, the sovereignty of the people seems to be something that never gets discussed anymore. She's a graduate of NYU, worked in media film, investigative journalism.

For over two decades, you can follow Mel at Mel K Show on X. We've got a lot to get into about accountability, how the lid has been blown off this cabal and what they've been up to and the behavior of elites and why we are not yet holding them accountable after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this right. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD.

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We got the invisible coup, how American leads in foreign power, use immigration, profiles in corruption, abuse of power by Americans' progressive elite, and blood money, why the powerful turn a blind eye while China kills Americans. It is peter switzer.com as well as the drill down one on X. That's the podcast. And then Peter Schweitzer on X. Peter, we appreciate you being here. Great to be with you, Dr. Drew.

Thanks for having me. So for those of us for whom perhaps we've been naive or not sort of aware of how things really work, so to speak, the first, you know, sort of unveiling of the corruption, to me there's been sort of three waves of awakening to people like me who've been naive and sort of trusting all these years. One was COVID and the insane censorship associated with that and the whole the craziness of, you know, taking over our civil liberties and whatnot. Number one, that one did us a big favor. Number two, Doge and the subsequent corruption findings that were discovering that all of our tax dollars are being just said elsewhere than where any of the elected officials intended. And then thirdly, now the sort of the carry on top is the Epstein files. You has someone

who is sort of tuned into all this. Is any of this stuff surprising to you? Why have people like me so in the dark about this all this years? And now that it's been uncovered, is it going to make a difference? Yeah, Dr. Drew. I mean, I think that the thing you have to begin as a baseline is that what happens in Washington, D.C., there's a lot more agreement. than there is disagreement. And the analogy I use is professional wrestling. If you're not familiar with professional wrestling, you think those guys in the ring actually hate each other, right? They're hitting each other with chairs. They're throwing each other out of the ring. But when you study it and look at it after a while, you realize, no, no, no, no, they're not enemies. They're business partners. And that is really

the mindset of a lot of people in Washington, D.C. Now, the incidents that you brought up, COVID, it very interesting. That's one of the few issues that kind of broke this dynamic of the Uniparty because it was such a profound disagreement on trusting experts and trusting on how we should deal with it. So I'm a little bit surprised that we have not seen more pushback on the Epstein files, but I think the reality is when you have revelation, when you have the documents and the materials are available, and people know they can be released. that point, it's very, very hard for the establishment to close the box. So disclosure, disclosure, transparency, transparency is always, always the key. Well, so we're getting there,

it seems. And so my question is, are you surprised or shocked by what we're finding? And then what about the accountability? That's the thing that everybody is walking around going, what the hell? This is outlandish behavior. It's not going to stop until somebody is really the real consequences, it seems to me, but your answer. Yeah, I mean, if you're asking me, am I surprised what's in the Epstein files? No, I'm not. You know, you're obviously more of an expert in the whole psychology of this kind of behavior, but it doesn't really surprise me because ultimately, I think a lot of the stuff comes down to the abuse of power and it becomes a pattern of behavior, whether it's, you know, in the way you handle your finances, the way you run your

the way you treat your people, the way that you, you know, deal with your, you know, sexual fancies or whatever, it's all about abuse of power. So that does not surprise me. What I am encouraged about is we're starting to see a little bit of unison between left and right on some of these issues. Used to be these issues would pop up and you would have one side or the other would embrace it and say we run with it. The other side would reactively reject it. I'm kind of of seeing on Epstein, you're sort of seeing people on the left and the right all coming out in favor of disclosure. Now, they may seem, they may believe that it's their political opponent that will be most damaged. But at the end of the day, everybody is pushing by about disclosure. And I think that is a great and healthy thing. I think we need more of it. We're going to

continue to face resistance and excuses why this stuff cannot be released. But you protect the victims, you redact their names, everything, everything else should come out. And then when it comes to a consequence of some type, accountability. And before I ask that, Caleb, you have an article up next to Peter. Tell me what you intend with that. This is the article about the latest letter that came from Pam Bondi, which lists about 300 or so names of, I'm guessing what she's saying is that these are the politically exposed people. names that they redacted and took out of the documents before they released them. And so it has pretty much every possible name.

It's obviously filled with people like Elvis and Cher and the Pope. Right. Which I guess, I guess it, you know, it begs the question before. Well, good. Thankfully. No Peter Schweitzer either, I imagine. But it begs the question, you know, he's, his, everything about him is so radio-eastern. active. I always worry when we when we react too far on something because then it all just becomes

noise. There are people that did egregious things and there are people whose name were mentioned on an email or went to a lunch or something. And these are not the same thing. And yet I'm seeing people step down from businesses and governments and whatnot just because their names on the list, but maybe they did something horrible. I don't know. Maybe that's what they're anticipating. But how are we going to get through that? And then my question I keep hammering on is once we get through that, how are we going to come to accountability? Yeah, well, here's the challenge. You know, having exposed the behaviors of the elites over the last 15 years, you know, I was the first one to break the story on insider trading on the stock market by members of Congress is these are very smart people.

They have very smart lawyers. They know things like the statute of limitations. They know in terms of what they write, how to write certain things. So if people are expecting a lot of handcuffs to be slapped on people and people going to jail, I would say that's probably not going to happen because they have lawyered up. And the fact that these documents are being released now, the statute of limitations and some of these crimes has already run. But you can do a lot in accountability with public shaming. So I think the fact that somebody may not go to jail.

jail, but their name has been besmirched and their reputation has been damaged. I think that's a very, very good thing. In a lot of cases, that may be what we have to settle for, unfortunately. And then there's been a whole global disruption from Epstein. Do you think similarly of the global elite that they're also going to skate in a sense, except for their reputation? Yeah, I think a lot of them will. You know, look, what I think the Epstein record show is, that these global elites, they actually share a lot more in common with each other than they do with their own fellow countrymen. I mean, they run in the same circles. They have the same interest. I think the emails are interesting, not just in the context of this horrible behavior that Epstein and

some of these individuals engaged in, but it shows how they do business, how they deal with their opponents, how they deal with their enemies. So I think it's unlikely if you are somebody that comes from Europe or the developing world and you are caught up in this, you're probably going to avoid scrutiny in terms of the law as well because of the statute of limitations. I might be wrong, but I doubt it. You've been swimming in these waters for a while, but to someone who's hearing, you know, you say things like, you know, these are people that have more in common, they have shared interests and, you know, ideologies, whatever it might be, the things. The thought that they have anything above the elected governments and that they feel entitled to

in any way shaping people's lives. When you hear that, if you're not accustomed to it, it's disgusting. It's truly disgusting. And I don't know. It's hard just to let it be. I guess I don't know if you have any choices or if elective officials have enough hold to do something, but it is really let's put it this way. I don't have much

although I think the idea is terrible. I don't have much what's so sympathy for them when it comes to the billionaire tax in California all of a sudden. I think it's a terrible idea, but maybe you need to downsize them. I don't know. I don't know what it is.

It's horrible. I'm sure we'll have long-term bad consequence doing something like that. But it is a disgusting notion. I was equally disgusted by the deep state, the idea that people in bureaucratic positions feel that they really run the government, not the elected officials. That's all disgusting. It's gross. It is a misappropriation of our lives. And is there anything politically, I mean, collectively we can do about that? Yeah. I mean, I would first encourage people, you know, whatever politically strike you are, you need to be voting for and supporting people that are skeptical of government power. Having done this for a long time, people always think if I get my guy in there, then everything's

going to be okay. I happen to think, Dr. Drew, that human nature is a constant. And when you give people a position of great wealth, you know, they've earned it, they create a great company, and you give them political power, you give them political access, some of them are going to do the right thing with them. But most of them aren't. Most of them are going to be self-serving. People don't become angels just because they go into government. It oftentimes bring out the worst side. So maybe this is kind of the libertarian in me speaking out. But I think we need to be supporting people who want to limit government of power. And if somebody comes to and says, those are all the bad guys, give me more power and I will clean it up, I would run the other

direction because that is the classic mode that is done. And again, to use the professional wrestling analogy, at the end of the day, a lot of these people, Republican and Democrat, they're on the same side. At the end of the day, they want the current system working the way it's working because they're making money and they're accumulating powers. So be skeptical, don't trust people. I think it's one of things you talk about on your show all the time, and I cannot hammer it anymore. hand off your rights and liberties to somebody else and expect them to protect them and take care of them for you because they're ultimately not going to do it. Well, that flips from disgusting to just sad.

It is truly sad that that's the case. I have difficulty, but I'm sure you're not wrong. Let us switch gears for a second if you don't mind and talk a little bit about something you've written about the role of the cartels and the Mexican president and what's unfolding in our country today? Yeah, I think that we kind of view Mexico as this corrupt, hapless neighbor, but the fact is that they are involved politically in the United States in a number of ways. They've got a network of 53 consulates in comparison, Great Britain and China have six and seven, And as I document in the book, these consulates are actively involved in organizing violent protests on our streets.

And they are also involved in meddling in our politics. You know, in the 2024 election, they had a meeting in one of the consulates in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, and they had a meeting about how are we going to stop Trump, how are we going to get people into office that want more open borders. So we have to wake up to the reality of what Mexico is and how they operate. the cartels are a key component to this. President Scheibombeam, the current president, is financially tied to the cartels. She has appointed senior people to the national police that are known to be affiliated with the drug cartels. And the drug cartels have also started to enter American politics donating to political campaigns. So we need to recognize that it's very good that we sealed the border. I thought that was a very, very important first step. But the people in the people that

in our country have their own political networks, they have their own criminal networks, and they are using them to undermine our sovereignty. So we need to wake up to the reality and see immigration for what it is the way that governments like Mexico and China view it rather than the way we view it traditionally. And I think only once we do that, can we have the very important conversation about what level of legal immigration do we want? My parents were immigrants. I think legal immigration is a wonderful thing. But as long as we're dealing with weaponized immigration, I don't think we can deal with that issue very effectively. And do you have a plan? You're talking about China and Mexico now, right? Is that what I'm hearing? Yeah. So are a lot of the Chinese immigrants turning out

to be spies, too? Well, let me give you an example of what China is doing. And this is going to be very relevant for the Supreme Court case coming up. Before the book came out, I had a chance to meet with President Trump's Secretary of State, Marker Rubio, and Treasury Secretary Besson in the Oval Office, and shared with them this information, also went to Capitol Hill. The Supreme Court's going to be hearing this birthright citizenship case. That's the idea that if you're born in the United States, you are automatically granted U.S. citizenship. The problem is China has exploited this on an industrial scale. So what do I mean by that?

Well, our government doesn't track any numbers. We have no idea literally how many people are born here whose parents came here for the purposes of getting birthright citizenship. But China has looked at this. China is the government has encouraged people in China to do it. And they say that over the last 13 years, every single year, roughly 100,000 Chinese nationals have come and been born in the United States. They are then taken back to China where they are raised in the CCP system. but they're U.S. citizens. And when they're 18, they're going to be able to vote. So we're looking at more than a million voters who are being raised in China. They're going to be able to vote from absentee ballot if they want from China in the upcoming election. It's a massive breach of birthright citizenship. So the Supreme Court has got to deal with this issue directly. The Constitution is not a suicide pact. And if they were to come back and say that this practice is okay, we have. a massive, massive problem on our hands.

We do have a, we already have a massive problem. I've also heard that the way the CCP looks at the world, every Chinese citizen that comes here doesn't have to be an American citizen by birthright. Every Chinese citizen that comes here is a spy. They need to, they have a responsibility to function as a spy for the CCP. Yeah. If you're here from China, they expect you, you are required to use WeChat as a means of communication. This is the Chinese-owned app, which is notorious for being monitored by the Chinese spy network. So that's your means of communication. So they track you. And if you have any family or relatives back in China while you

are in the United States, they will threaten them. If you're a student, for example, that were to come here and say, I don't want to spy, I just want to do my job. I want to work in this biology. lab, they will come to you and say, hey, you know what, we can really mess up your family. We can damage your family in a serious way. So we need you to go steal this information. That's the kind of leverage they have. So it's an enormous problem. And China views their battle with us is not just about a sphere of influence, not about, you

know, certain size of the market that they're going to get in computers. They believe that they are in a civilizational war with the United States. and their view is antithetical to our views about individual liberties, a limited government, and the notion that people have individual freedom. That is antithetical to the civilization that they want to establish here and around the world. Peter Schweitzer is with me. I take a little break. He's going to stay with me across the break. In a short while, we'll bring Mel Kay in here. Let's Caleb put the books up again, if you don't mind. Which book do you want us to read, Peter?

Which is the one that's most pertinent right now? invisible coup came out three weeks ago. We've been number one on the New York Times list for three weeks. So I think it's very relevant right now. Fantastic. All right, we'll talk about the invisible coup when we return. Something our audience knows well is that what's good for our health can also be good for the environment. Paleo Valley makes snacks, drinks, oils, and more that are nutrient dance, delicious and impeccably sourced.

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as a voting block. Is that the idea? Well, they're using it as a form of warfare. So, for example, we were just talking about birthright citizenship with China. That's an example of the kind of manipulation that we're seeing. By the way, it goes beyond. on just pregnant Chinese women coming to the United States giving birth, now they're a U.S. citizen flying back to China and raising them. You have the additional problem that Chinese elites close to the CCP are hiring surrogates in the United States. So they will hire a woman in the United States to carry their child, pay them $60,000. The Wall Street Journal, Dr. Drew, ran a front page story eight weeks ago, one Chinese billionaire, close to the CCP, has more than 100 children

born this way. They're being raised in China, all U.S. citizens. There's another gentleman in Southern California, they were charged with child abuse. He had 26 children. He's a CCP official. So that's a huge problem. And in The Invisible Coup, I talk about this and the fact that just in Southern California alone, we found 107 Chinese-owned surrogacy companies that are advertising these services back in China. So China's doing it. Mexico's doing it. The Muslim Brotherhood's doing it. They manifest it in different ways. And their goal is ultimately to undermine American civilization and to achieve their specific goals, which are sometimes different and sometimes the same. doesn't China need us as a market?

Don't they need our economy? They may want to sort of control us in some way, but they need our economic vibrancy, don't they? Yeah, well, they need our population. They need access to our market. But what they don't want is us meddling in what's going on in Asia around the world. And they don't want a model of governance that is different from their own. So I quote in the book, for example, some of the top theoreticians in the Chinese Communist Party who say,

look, this is a battle against the Judeo-Christian civilization of the West and its emphasis on individualism. They want a collectivist view, the fact that individual expression is not important. So it is a completely different rival form of governance. and as long as our example continues to exist is a problem. So they are looking for ways to kind of undermine us by using our freedoms and our openness as a weapon against us. And they're doing a pretty darn good job of it. Yeah, they're pretty creative. But come on, Peter, it's the warm embrace of collectivism, as the new mayor of New York suggested.

Ask if you spend any time in the afterlife, interview some of the people that were Mao's victims about that warm embrace. Okay, well. People in Poland or Austria. Susan, are you okay? I know this all of. She's very upset about the CCP. You know, I used to rant about China,

and Drew would just snub it, you know, put his nose up at me and go, oh, yeah, whatever. But now it's all coming true. It's ridiculous. I was right. Yes, yes. Thank you. I'll admit it.

Thank you. Peter, where would you like us to find you? I've mentioned the X for both the pod and your own person. personal X, any of other places? You can go to the drilldown.com, which is our podcast. You can subscribe there. Or you can go to peter Schweitzer.com, and that'll have some of the interviews and the news about the book. How often you put up the drill down?

We do it once a week for 20 minutes, and we'd love to have you on. So we'll be in touch. All right. Excellent. I feel like I've learned something and I may not sleep as well tonight because of it. So thank you so much for being here. Thanks for having me. You got it.

Invisible Coot is the book. Check that out. I definitely am going to read The Invisible Coop. You know, it's really weird. What's that? We have a house on our corner here that was bought by Chinese Nationals five, 10 years ago. How long has it been? 15 years ago, at least. I don't think it was that long.

but, you know, they paid a lot of money for it, and nobody lived in it. And they tried to sell. They were here one day. I went down and introduced myself, and they looked to me like I was on fire. It was crazy. And I'm, you know, and I'm trying to figure out what that's all about. But we don't. Well, that was when they were buying up real estate around here and they were unloading their capital.

They were trying to get unloaded their money. Right. When they weren't allowed to, they weren't allowed to invest in the stock market or something in China. I remember it was during that time. But we have a lot of Asians in our area, Pasadena, Arcadia area. But it's still sitting there empty. And they couldn't sell it. And it just, it's the weirdest thing. And I want to know what's behind that.

I'm trying to figure out how they're... You know, George can tell you that. He saw all that stuff. It's just a safer place for them to park their money. It's like buying gold or something. It's just like... But they can't sell it. But they want a high price for it.

And it's been sitting there. And when you let a house sit, it goes bad. Trust me. You have to run water and you have to run the heater and you have to be in there. But it scares me a little bit. But I don't know. It's just kind of shifty. Mel K-Show on X, the Melkayshow.com.

The Melkayshow on Rumble. The book is Question Everything and Americans Anonymous, the latest. Restoring Power to the People, one citizen at a time. Mel, welcome back. Thank you for having me. I wish that I could say that it's going to be a. better segment than the last one, but I've been working on

how exactly we got here. You know, I mean, I... No, not really. I mean, my thing is, I have a book coming out called Infiltration instead of Invasion, America betrayed, 1944 to 1954. And I think we

have to figure out how we got here because the Jeffrey Epstein situation is something that's been playing out for decades. And I think that the American people have been largely misled about history post-World War II, which is very much, I think, the battle that is going on supernationally is because systems were put in place in the aftermath of World War II that we were not privy to, I don't believe, as American citizens, that have

undermined and subverted the will of the people. And if it's time for the American people, like I say in Americans Anonymous, which is like a 12-step program for American citizens, is that we have to be honest that our history is not exactly what we've been told. Our country was, I believe, subverted and captured by a supranational architecture that was built before our eyes in the late 40s, early 50s. And we are still fighting the battle against this, I believe, capture of not just our nation, but the world that Jeffrey Epstein worked for. People kept saying, is he CIA, is he, MI6, is he, you know,

Masad, I kept thinking, no, he works for the supranational infrastructure that was built after World War II and has given themselves immunity. And I at this point think that the intelligence communities that were built, CIA and MI6 in particular, work for that structure. And it's very obvious and very clear if you look at Jeffrey Epstein's emails that this is a global financial network that manipulates the world. to benefit themselves with no consideration for war for profit or pandemics or any of that. They don't look at humanity as necessary. They look at it as a problem to solve. And it's in their documents, and it has been for decades. Is this, I'm not familiar with this theory.

Is this the whole Rothschild infrastructure? No, not really. I mean, this is more, and I really, I dug into a lot of documents. I found a lot of stuff that was very disturbing. But this is really more about the Dulles brothers. Two Wall Street bankers, I think people are very familiar with their names. But I don't think they fully understand what was going on during World War II, particularly in Switzerland. As we were all told that Switzerland was neutral.

The truth is, Switzerland was the financial hub of money changing hands during World War II between enemies and allies. And what I've found in my research for this book is that the two Wall Street lawyers come to Switzerland. Alan Dulles was there for years and burned Switzerland post-World War I, which is also not really what we were told. They created the Bank of International Settlements. Well, the Bank of International Settlements was also where Alan Dulles spent a lot of his time. There was an American banker from Wall Street, McKittrick running it during World War II. Well, he was regularly working with Shreff, the head of the Reich Bank, and this guy, Norman, the head of the Bank of England, throughout the entire war. I mean, money's coming in and out of this Bank of International Settlements that still to this day has immunity.

In 1945, they gave the Bank of International Settlements and 63 other banks, including the IMF and the World Bank, immunity under the International Organization Immunity Act of 1945. and that is still in place to this day. So when you look at this infrastructure and what was created there, essentially it was a supranational financial infrastructure that was worldwide and near the end of 1945, before Hitler surrendered,

there was a big meeting in France and all these bankers came, including the ones I'm talking about, but also so did Himmler and a whole bunch of Nazis. So did the internationalists, which now we call them globalists. So people representing the Rockefeller family and people representing IG Farben and all these supranational different groups that now we call the public-private partnership really represented, I think, most clearly now by the World Economic Forum. And what they decided was to figure out how to get all the money out of Nazi Germany before they surrendered, in essence, to plan.

And for a possible World War III and a Fourth Reich, these are real documents. People can look them up. They were declassed by the CIA. They're called the Red House Papers. And it starts you down a path to realize that there is an international banking system that runs above our nations with lawyers and with everything else. And I believe that when the Dolos brothers came back to America after World War II, that they reshape the State Department,

which Alan Dolis ran and started the CIA. But his brother, John Foster Dolis, became the Secretary of State. Well, it appears to me that after World War II, that entire State Department, along with USAID, which is not aid, it's international development, National Endowment for Democracy,

and frankly, I think the CIA in tandem with MI6 became essentially a supranational control system above our country, above any president, above any elected official, and that they have been functioning in the open, basically, since. And we have to remember around that time, they were already looking into the Rockefeller Foundation, the Ford Foundation,

the what's it called Carnegie Corporation, into that they were subverting the will of the people. Go ahead. Mel, if you told me this 10 years ago, I'd be gone, come on what. But now, after there's been so much exposed through COVID and Epstein, A, I look at the Epstein banking, his history in banking, and it sounds very, very similar. It's these dark money institutions that pay for arms, essentially.

And certainly Oliver North and the Reagan administration, this was going on, going on. This has been going on for a long, long time. But there's that aspect, which is sort of the financial sort of the whole way the financial system operates in the dark. Yeah. But there now is also this behavior of the elites that they themselves feel somehow above everything else. And they feel justified in planning and controlling and turning how to live our life. I don't know about you.

I was telling Peter this. I am disgusted by that. That is disgusting. It is. It is. I don't understand these people live with themselves, but how do we find our way out? You know, Marine Le Pen always says the sovereignty of the people is everything. And the subtitle of your books, Restore the Power of the People one person at a time.

I don't hear people over here talking about that. Yeah, and we have to talk about it because our sovereignty has been captured. And what you're talking about is a infrastructure that is an architecture above nations. First and foremost, I think we should demand that the International Organization Immunity Act of 1945 be rescinded and that our money, trillions of dollars, I prove in my book pretty much that the U.S. taxpayer, we are in this kind of debt because we have paid for the entire Cold War, the entire War on Terror, which was a war on a tactic with no defined enemy. The money went into a black hole, essentially. And I believe that we have paid for the entire globalist. operation known as, you know, climate change. How about all the NGOs? All the NGOs, all these NGOs that are doing God knows what. Again, that's a supranational kind of a system that exists outside of our laws in a sense. And our will certainly is not being represented there. No. And we can even go back. There was a book called Tragedy and Hope by Carol Quigley, who was

apparently Bill Clinton's mentor at Georgetown, and he explains it. Even in David Rockefeller's own memoir, he said certainly a moneyed class of intellectual elite is far better than auto-determination of the people. And they mean it. Limits of growth is where the whole climate change comes from. In limits of growth, they're very clear that they had to come up with a problem to solve, and that problem was humanity. I mean, the level to which these people, people believe that they are gods and superior. I mean, in their documents, they don't even understand why poor people have children. And they say this stuff.

And this is what I've been saying for years is that they don't hide their intentions. I firmly believe in what I've learned is that, A, I'm not so sure, even if Germany lost World War II, I don't believe the Nazis did. And when I say that, I'm not talking about goose-stepping, uniformed people following Hitler. I'm talking about an ideology of totalitarianism and eugenics and full control and like a godlike power above the people that these people want. And like Peter said in his segment, he said, you know, the Muslim Brotherhood and some of these other groups that are the CCP, they are totalitarian. And now they have this whole technocracy set up above us. So when you say, what can we do? well, first and foremost, we should be asking if in fact they have evidence that there was an

autopenn group, a coalition that Comer pointed out of 10 people that he listed, which oddly included Jeffrey Katzenberg and Steven Spielberg, and then like a whole bunch of people, people don't know, like Anita Dunn and Ron Clayne, well, if all these people were essentially running the country for four years from 2020 to 2024, and they were unelected, we don't know them. The Donnellin family is all involved with Black Rock and they were in there. And I think we have to have a full doge-like audit of every single sitting senator and congressperson that was sitting in there if that entire regime was essentially a fraud on the United States of America and we the people. You know, also when you talk about who's going to be charged, before the 2020 election,

51 intelligence agents conspired knowingly to write a letter saying that Hunter Biden's laptop, which they knew was real since 2019, was Russian disinformation. And they took down the New York Post and many other people. Not only was it true, but it had a lot of corruption in there that the American people deserve to know about before they went to vote. But 51 intelligence agents, as far as I'm concerned, should be charged with conspiracy to defraud the people of the United States of the United States. of America before a federal election.

And yet they're not. And when I go back to what I'm talking about with the Dulles brothers, when they created the separate state department and the separate money laundering USAID and the CIA to protect them, at that point, you can look at it. From 1963, they killed the president of the United States. Then the people, I believe, involved were on the Warren Commission. And then from that point on, it seems to me that everyone in our government, particularly intelligence or military that committed crimes against we the people of the United States or others

get promoted. So, I mean, we are at a place where we have essentially a mafia-like intelligence slash military slash financial system that is running above the nation. And I do think there's things we can do about it, but only if we all accept that we have been deceived. Okay, well, hold on. I want to talk about those things that we can do about it. In addition, I want to sort of address it. Yeah. That looks a lot. I know.

I'm not going to sleep well tonight. Very smart. The Melkay show on Remble, Melkay show on X, the Melkatoketalkshow.com. Question everything also, I think is a good. Is there other book from 2025? I think it's a reasonable approach. But it makes me wonder, and we'll talk about solutions after the break. But the other thing I want to address is, you know, does this insight?

and you've mentioned the totalitarians are still around, which certainly they are, does it emboldened them and does it make people more skeptical about capitalism? Because ultimately you're talking about money

and how this dark system operates within a free market. And maybe they would say, if somebody's a totalitarian, we're going to take control of all that because people can't be trusted in a free market. They look at this black, look at this dark money and all this crap they do. So we'll talk about that after the break. More of our audience is taking health and wellness

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funniest commercial of all time, that dolphin commercial. Susan's laughing about it. Thank you, Chad. And that does diminish the quality of the product, because we certainly take it every day. What's up, Mel? I love that commercial. But what I have to say is, listen, you asked something before. And I think that understanding how we got here is empowering to us. And I think we need to look into our past and understand that people are, people really, I believe, will have righteous indignation and come together and unite if they fully understand how much our parents, our grandparents and ourselves have been looted and lied to and manipulated. And I think we really have to go back and look at, you know, things like the Patriot Act that turn this country upside down and into a police state. And now we have a lot of stuff going on.

And I believe that the people have a lot more power right now than they think they do. But I think that it's overwhelming to see all of this. But I really do think that we are at a time where we have a choice to make. You know, 250 years is basically the average of empires how long they last. well, we the people of the United States are uniquely in a position to decide what we want. And if we want another 250,000 years, 50,000 years, 250 years, because, you know, again, when Donald Trump would say they're not after me, they're after you, I'm in the way, I would always say, no, no, no, they're not after America.

They're after the world. And America is in the way. The Constitution, the Bill of Rights, our DNA, the culture that they're trying to destroy, the history that they're trying to erase is the greatest, I believe, ever in human history for humanity, for individuals, for liberty, for freedom,

for everything that we've created. And I think we should all start taking a step back and realizing just how amazing this country is. And over the last 10 years, the bastardization of our history should upset us all, regardless of your background. You should be very proud of this country, in particular.

I mean, his history has not been taught, right? People have been indoctrinated in an alternative universe. And you're talking to yet about yet another version of our history that we might not be aware of. But I want to make sure I heard you. I mean, you're saying that really uncovering more transparency, really seeing our history would be helpful. But I'm not sure you answered my question about the people that are interested in the warm,

abrasive collectivism, being empowered by your insights in the sense that they blame capitalism that this stuff happened?

Yeah, it's really more that there is, I think it's less capitalism and more the idea that the United States of America

was never truly independent is the belief of the people that created this architecture. And, you know, they keep telling us, oh, we have to

stay in NATO. Well, people don't know the history of NATO and the EU has nothing to do with I mean, I just think we have to get back to reading the Declaration of Independence and realizing we are still there. And again, the difference will not be made in Washington, D.C.

The difference will be made in average people around this country getting involved in their local politics, their local community. We have the politics that we have. They are very corrupt. But a strong group of local patriots that are not aligned by left or right, but are really together, there by wanting to stand up for everyone and for the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, our privacy can do a lot more than it can be done in D.C. at this point. I frankly think D.C. needs to be fumigated and we the people of the United States need to start taking the power of local action very seriously because local action can have a huge impact on this country. You see a couple

places put in some new legislation, and that could start the brushfire through the country of taking back our country. And I really think the federalists and the state movements are where that happens. I don't know if I answered that either. I parted us several times. Well, you kind of did. With Alexis de Talkville, when he analyzed our system in 1825, said that the local practice of government was what made our democracy difference, and was the reason it worked. But I want to switch gears a little bit. Caleb, you had a question about Epstein. Yes, I had a lot of questions about Epstein, so I'm trying to find the last one that I just

recently sent you. You sent me the one about drugs and addiction, which I saw no evidence about that. Although sex addiction is writ large all over this story, and nobody talks about that. That was my question. I found it very odd that just through, I know you both of you have actually read the files way deeper than I have, especially Mel, I know you've read a lot more. I haven't seen any indication that he had other addictions. This seems to be his only addiction. It doesn't seem like there's drugs. Seems like there may have been drugs at his parties. It doesn't seem like a party. I'm not sure he, I don't think he was the addict. I think he

attracted the sex addicts and then exploited that vulnerability. I don't know. I disagree. You think he was? I can't hear you, Susan. I disagree. You think he was? Yeah. But that was what I was asking is, Mel, have you seen any other tidbits or pieces that might indicate? Because I don't even see a reference to him ever drinking alcohol at all. No, and I don't think he did. That was pretty much known. No, I really think his addiction is to power. I believe from even his interviews with Steve Bannon in that league,

he essentially thinks that he is above God. And again, remember when they say all these Jewish people, this is, again, another Jewish person that says that they do not believe in God. So this isn't about religion. He does not believe in God. He thinks that he is God. And Soros has said very similar things. It's this idea that they are above.

And Dr. Drew, what you said earlier is very true. And a lot of their writings, they talk about having to handle the humans as if they are not human. I'm not saying that they're not human. I'm saying that this ilk of people, they look at it that way. And don't forget, he said he was in the trilateral commission, the Council of Foreign Relations, all of that since he was 30.

So he was groomed to be where he was. He's not the first, you know, and I assume he's not the last. Don't you, is that not odd at all that he would have this specific thing, but then it doesn't seem like there's even experimentation with drugs or drinking or there's no reports about any of this stuff. Like, why is that so foreign, whatever, that seems to be a staple of what you expect to be happening at these big elite parties

is just a big drug-fueled bash basically. I think there's certain people that they don't drink or do anything because they don't want to lose that control. The idea of not being in full control is unacceptable to somebody like Epstein.

He knows the traps. He knows how they would trap him with that because he's trapping others. Because a lot of women said that they were drugged and certainly there are women that say that things happen to them that they don't remember. But as for him, I think he's one of those megalomaniac god

type in his mind figures that he wants to be the one running the chessboard. And that's how he played it all along. And I think he learned from David Rockefeller. I don't understand how they were friends when he was 30 out of nowhere. I don't understand his whole evolution

from Dalton forward makes no sense other than that he was groomed to be there. And somebody saw a spark of psychopathy. and the ability for somebody like him to have no empathy, no feelings, no anything for anyone. And that's what it looks like he was,

is a very dangerous person. And again, I think that that's less common, but, you know, that's what it appears. And Caleb, I know there's been some recent stories about this flower and scopolamine. That's kind of nonsense. Scapulamine is in a really uncomfortable drug to take. And if you're taking so much that you have consciousness issues,

your life is an imminent date. danger. If girls were drugged and forgetting things, it's going to be the usual suspects. I did that once. You did what? Skopalamine. We did it for a, you used a scopolamine patch. And I put a hot conference. I put a hot conference on it and I just completely like, no, no, no, no, no, here's what happened. Scopalamine patch are the transdermal patch as used for sea sickness, right? And Susan got a neck, probably from the scalymy, got neck stiffness.

And so she had a science infection. So she started putting compresses, which pushed the scopolamine through her skin, right? It heated it up. And she got this huge dose of scopolamine. And she got a torticolis where her neck twisted and she couldn't. And I think you've got ocular gyric stuff too, which is a classic. It's very uncomfortable. It was very, very uncomfortable.

I didn't get seasick. If people were being overdosed on copolymium, it was very uncomfortable. I mean, they would report something far different than just, I forgot what was going on. So, okay. So how do we get here? Sorry, but I know how that feels. It didn't feel great. It wouldn't be something fun.

So to me, Mel, the Epstein thing, I told Peter, then I'll tell you the same thing, is that I feel for naive people like me, we're just going around doing our thing. There have been sort of three moments of revelation that are the most shocking. One was COVID. That was a major awakening. These people are capable of God knows what in terms of taking over our rights and privileges. Even our sanctity of our own bodies are completely taken away from us. Number one. Number two, the NGOs and the crazy funding of things USAID and all this stuff. And then the fraud associated with this and the way, it's just shocking. And then the Epstein files. These see these things to me. seem related. How do you tie that all together? Oh, they're a thousand percent related. First of all, there are many, many emails of Jeffrey Epstein that were talking about, uh, planemics, pandemics. There was actually a meeting in 2009. You can look it up. It was called the Good Club. And it happened at Rockefeller Institute when he was a member because he was a Rockefeller fellow. He was a council foreign relations and trilateral commission. If you look at these three things, so that's Kissinger,

Rockefeller and Brzezinski's groups. In 2009, they had the Good Club meeting, and I believe it was Ted Turner was there, Soros, Gates, likely Epstein, many other Bloomberg, Oprah for whatever reason, and

it was a meeting about planning for future pandemics and depopulation population growth. Two years later, the Rockefeller Institute put out a document known as the lockstep document, but it's future of global technology and control.

So again, all of this is going towards the same original goal even before World War II, which is a one world government run basically by technology and a technocracy, totalitarian technocracy, above nations. And I believe Jeffrey Epstein was a very big part in the architecture of that. And I believe that architecture was created out of World War II above nations. So to me, it is all connected. And it is all very much sadly related to eugenics and to the idea of superior human races. And of course, the fourth industrial revolution, which is the goal of Agenda 2030, is to meld humans and machine together.

And they talk about it openly. Well, this was something that Jeffrey Epstein invested a ton of money into, not just having a 20-year office at Harvard for whatever. reason. But we also know he put a lot of money into transhumanism. He put a lot of money into CRISPR technology. He funded a lot of the people from the Human Genome Project. He was very interested in designer babies and making babies without like with artificial wounds. I mean, all kinds of things. So when you look at

his connections to the science community, it's even more disturbing. His relationship with the Edge Foundation. And a lot of the tech bros now that seem to have more power than governments as well also came through Epstein. Epstein is mentioning years ago to, I think it was to Rothschild that they should know Peter Thiel. You know, and I mean, we're talking about 15 years ago. So a lot of this is the same people that have always been trying. It goes back really to Rockefeller and the creation of the UN. And of course, the UN also is still under this International Organization Immunity Act of 1945.

Essentially, nobody on planet Earth is allowed to audit or bring legal action or look at the books of these international banking and organizations since they were created. So I really think that the answers lie in removing that immunity on a global scale. And finally, looking at under the hood of these organizations. organizations that include the NGOs. But again, Epstein is 100% the obvious boomerang of all of this. We just have to have the strength and the willpower to say, okay, we want this immunity removed and we want a full doge. We know Doge works, a full Doge level audit of where our money has gone for the last decades. Yeah, at least, yeah, I completely agree with that. That is shocking. they have treated our money like it's their own.

Like the idea of our money being misappropriated is weirdly something that people don't normally speak about, but are finally doing so. And it should have been top of mind all the way along. But I also don't understand why people don't get the idea that the more centralized, you know, a world order or any authority is the more potential for abuse and the more potential for things to go very, very bad. wrong people get in there. A quick, a quick Kissinger story. I, um, years ago was when they used to use satellite booths when you'd go out and do new, you couldn't do it for your own home like we do now. Uh, you'd go to, you'd have to go to a satellite booth and Kissinger was in the booth ahead of me. And, uh, he, we didn't make any contact or anything, but he came out of the booth and he, uh, looked at his people and just goes, so did I look fat? That was his, that was his take on

on this long, important sort of discourse on live news, television. So, was I fat? I need to lose some money? When you run the world, certain things matter. But, you know, we have to just be on. We're going to say, yes. Well, listen, Mel, thank you for taking yet more time off of my sleep tonight. And let's put the book up again.

Hala, American Anonymous And I understand you're working on another book, right? American betrayed. Is that the book that's going to hopefully come out? No, it's called infiltration instead of invasion. America betrayed 1944 to 1954 where I lay out this financial

superstructure that we need to destroy right now. And I think Trump's trying to. I think he's aware of it, honestly. I think, I think as you use the word fumigation. Oh, Drew may have had a power outage. One second. Oh, there he is. There you are, Drew. There we go. We're back in. We went too close. But, oh, it's happening again. But you use the word fumigation. I've heard empty the swamp and other sort of ways of describing what we need to do in Washington. But I like fumigation. I think that's pretty good. I think that's what needs to happen.

Any last thoughts before I wrap this all up? Well, I just want to say this should be something that, like I said, all of this is just exposing something that we have been in denial about. You talk about addiction. America's been in denial for decades that we weren't, you know, really living as we believed we should, particularly with liberty and freedom and privacy. Lack of insight. Our insight has been blocked. The lid is just getting. It's interesting.

Isn't it how it's just one thing after another is blowing the lid off it, though? It's coming apart. Yeah, well, some would call it God. Some would call it the Great Awakening. I just know that I am on team humanity. Because whatever is against us, to me, is not human and is evil to the core. And I think God and humanity and love win. I'm with you on that.

And I'm all team local, too. Nothing's more efficient than local. How does, with somebody in Geneva are going to know what I need in Pasadena? It's ridiculous. It's absurd. Pasadena is in a world. Well, but that's the point. This is all, these are all, I mean, how does, you know, we were in Poland last week. How is somebody, you know, it feels more like Poland here. Freaking Belgium going to know about what it's like outside Warsaw.

When I was little, we had neighborhood watch when there was like, you know, things going on in the town. If we all had little neighborhood watches like Americans Anonymous and we looked out for our community and overreach and looked at the contracts, our local governments are going into, we'd solve a lot more than waiting for D.C. So that's the true. It's kind of like we need to, like the 1850s again need to be restored when people were, you know, directly involved in their government and the government spending in particular. All right, Mel, thank you so much for joining us again and as always enlightening. We'll look forward to the new book too. See soon. Thank you, sir. Okay, I want to say something really quick.

Bye-bye. Really quick. Thank you so much. We are, we have a great leadership on Rumble. you know, elsewhere. And if you would just give us a thumbs up, we're trying to work with our channels and build our audience and show that we're alive over here because, you know, we get sort of pushed down by other shows that are your regulars.

We know, but we really appreciate the viewership today. Subscribe. Yeah, give us a thumbs up. No, not just thumbs up. Subscribe. Do whatever it is that you're supposed to do over there. I'm horrible at asking and I feel very uncomfortable doing it. Maybe you can help out with this.

Give us some specific instructions here. I mean, it's hard for us to get higher than number two live stream on Rumble right now. Without, some of those are 24-7 TV channels. So they're doing great. They're really pushing us up. And thank you for all the likes. Like, we've definitely, pretty much, I would think, doubled our concurrent live viewers from this same time last year. So thank you, Rumble.

Great. Wonderful. Yeah. And we just, we're trying to like make a stink over there because we're always kind of, you know, easygoing over here at Dr. Drew. TV and we have a lot of great platforms. But I just feel like, you know, we have to be recognized on some level sometimes

and they need to push us up there. So we are grateful. I'm tired of not getting any attention. I need attention. We are grateful for Rumble. We are grateful for all of our platforms. And grateful for my guests. Let's see what's coming up, Caleb.

Casey Gates said thanks for helping my Rumble stock. So there we go. Luke Rudkowski tomorrow. J.B. Sears and Joel Pollack on Thursday. My goodness, that's a big show. Scott Presswood's coming in. Jesse Kelly. Bob Forrest, my old clinical director from

Celebrity Rehab and the hospital program we read. We talk about addiction. Now that everybody's worried about marijuana. Sayer G, we just got him set up. He put some, check him out on X. He put up some amazing threads this morning about some of stuff he was finding in the Epstein file. So, a lot coming.

Thank you to Emily Barsh for booking these great guests. Today's guests were no exception to that. We appreciate you all interacting on the Rumble Rants and over on the Restream. Let me quickly look at if there is anything. Somebody wants me to be the mayor of L.A. Let's get. No, yeah, no thanks.

We thought about stuff like that at one time. Everybody needs to know that I do not want Drew in politics, and it's my fault that he's not in politics. And the reason is, after hearing all these stories about how corrupt it is in our government, he's just not that guy. And he would, I don't, it would be so difficult for us because it would just be too hard for him to lie all the time. Well, I couldn't. And there would be consequences, I suppose.

Yeah, and you're also very sensitive. You don't like being called names all day. And being in politics is something that, I don't know. I suppose that's a lot of that. All right, everybody, thank you for being here. Tomorrow, remember Wednesday is there at 4 o'clock and then Thursday back at 2 o'clock. These are Pacific Times. And we look forward to seeing you then.

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