Ask Dr. Drew - “97 Percent Protection From Flesh-Eating Screwworm” Nicolas Hulscher Exposes OTC Treatment + “Engineered” Alpha-Gal Ticks w/ Dr. Kelly Victory — Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 631

Episode Date: June 10, 2026

For the first time in decades, US officials confirmed new cases of the New World screwworm: a flesh-eating parasite that eats living tissue from the inside out and can cross over to humans. As the government prepares emergency declarations and a $750 million fly factory in Texas, McCullough Foundation epidemiologist Nicolas Hulscher reveals the not-so-surprising, over-the-counter medication that he says “provided more than 97% protection against screwworm infestations in wounds under real-world conditions.” But because it’s so cheap and easily available, you will likely never hear about it in the headlines. In this special episode hosted by Dr. Kelly Victory, Nic Hulscher discusses the New World screwworm, ebola, and breaks down the meteoric rise of alpha-gal syndrome (meat allergies) and its connections to bio-engineered ticks. Nicolas Hulscher is an epidemiologist and administrator at the McCullough Foundation. He earned a Master of Public Health degree with a specialization in epidemiology at Michigan School of Public Health. He has contributed to the publication of more than 25 scientific studies, advancing understanding of COVID-19 vaccine injuries, childhood vaccine injuries, cancer treatments, SARS-CoV-2, and H5N1 avian influenza. Follow at https://x.com/NicHulscher Dr. Kelly Victory is Chief of Emergency & Disaster Medicine at The Wellness Company. A trauma and emergency specialist with over 30 years of experience, she served as Chief Medical Officer for Fortune 500 companies and is an alumna of Harvard’s National Preparedness Leadership Initiative. She is a contributing author of “Toxic Shot: Facing the Dangers of the COVID Vaccines.” Find more at https://x.com/DrKellyVictory 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello and welcome, everyone. Thank you for joining me. I'm Dr. Kelly Victory, filling in for the second Tuesday in a row for Dr. Drew. Drew and Susan are out floating around in some palatial yacht or cruise ship in the Mediterranean, I think, enjoying life and the recent car race in Monte Carlo, eating undoubtedly some great food. I am going to be joined today. by one of my favorite people, Nick Holscher, who is an epidemiologist and works for the McCullough Foundation, has been a prolific writer and publisher of more than 25 papers on a variety of topics. I'll give him a more proper introduction when he joins us a little bit. I'm going to be talking about the really nefarious things like Alpha-Gal Syndrome and engineering. ticks, hopefully get into a little bit on Lyme disease and whether those things are related, whether or not Lyme was also an engineered illness. This interest and coverage of Alpha-Gal syndrome, very, very concerning to me, certainly, because I happen to like meat, but more importantly, it's the nefarious nature of the fact that people are manipulating pathogens, again, with the sole intent

of modifying people's behavior. So we're going to get into the weeds on that. We're also going to touch on the issue of the New World screw worm, appropriately named. I feel like everything these days is one big screw worm coming out of our government and the elites. I think COVID was kind of a screw worm too, personally. But we're going to talk about screw worm, what it means, whether there's something to be concerned about, and talk more globally about the, what I call sort of panic du jour or scare de jure, this nonstop litany of things every five minutes. We've got a new scare, a new virus, a new parasite that,

you know, demands wait for it, a brand new therapeutic and or a new vaccine. But before any of that, I have a very special guest after this first open. I'm going to be joined first segment by an incredibly special guest that was not promoted for today's show, and that is Dr. Drew Pinsky. Yes, I'm going to be welcoming Dr. Drew to his own show. He is going to be piping in from somewhere, as I said, in the Mediterranean on a ship to talk specifically about this insanity of the California elections, specifically the L.A. mayoral race and the chicanery that has clearly gone on. on and is continuing to go on. I know that he wants to rail on that.

It's really inexplicable. It is so obvious that there is fraud going on here that it just boggles the mind. So I know Drew wants to weigh in on that and perhaps give us an update on what he and Susan are doing out there in the Mediterranean. So when we come back after this break, I will be joined, as I said, by Dr. Drew, a guest on his own show with the host. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin.

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Welcome back. As I said, I'm Dr. Kelly Victory, filling in for Dr. Drew Pinsky, who is about to join me today as my first segment guest, coming in from somewhere in the Mediterranean on a boat, to talk about the California elections and specifically the outrage at what's happening there. The idea that has somehow surpassed Spencer Pratt into the second position and is now going to be faced. off with Karen Bass. It's really inexplicable, and I'm sure that Drew has some thoughts on the topic. So that's what we're going to be talking about first before I'm joined in the second half of the show by Nick Holshir. And we're going to be talking then about Alpha-Gal syndrome, engineered tick diseases, as well as screw worm and the continual fear-mongering that's going on with these new

and different pathogens. So let's bring in Drew and hear what he has to say about the California Lexus. Drew, welcome to the show. Kelly, first of all, thank you for welcoming me to the show. And secondly, thank you for covering these last two weeks. We appreciate it so, so much. Give us the freedom to be able to do all this. There's a bucket list trip to watch an F1 race in Monte Carlo.

But I do love the way you introduced this show as the headline should be, everything is screw worm. I think you're pretty much to respond. when you said that. And I want to share with you a couple of things I've learned about the panic du jour, pick your poison. But the word haunta, which people have already forgotten about, is a slang in a language you can look up on grok or anything else, happens to be Hebrew, for chump, for sucker.

So the hanta virus is the sucker virus. And what was the latest one? Oh my God, what was the last virus? Ebola, we've got Ebola. Of course, DRC has them very frequently, and they know how to handle it, and they've handled this one. But it was a public health emergency of international concern. The acronym is PHEI-C pronounced by the World Health Organization as fake. So one is a chump virus, the other is a fake virus.

You can't make this shit up. So that's what we've been dealing with the panic d'IAC. I agree. Well, it's crazy because, you know, I live. in Colorado much of the year and versus a very real thing. You know, it's it's passed on by the feces of infected rodents. When I sweep out my barn, sweep outbuildings, I actually wear an N95 mask because it is potentially possible to aerosolize that stuff and you could become infected with hontovirus, serious virus. But the reality is, Drew, it's not a respiratory virus. So you and I

travel through major airports every week, tell me, you're seeing all these people wearing masks. And when you ask them, or it's because of hauntavirus and Ebola, neither of which have any potential to be spread through the air. It's absolute insanity. Just show you how far the of COVID, these people will never be the same. Completely agree. And I just look at those people. people think, my God, look, we've done to them. Look, we've done to people. This is really pathetic. We're supposed to be reassuring people as clinicians and as doctors to be able to make them feel better about their biological circumstance, not make them panic about it.

Is my transmission coming through okay? I just saw a little glitch going on. Are we cool here? You're all good. It's a little, as you'd expect from a cruise ship and the Mediterranean, but that's okay. Okay. Okay. Tell me, have you. guys been able to want, I mean, clearly you've seen some of the results coming in and being able to watch some of the coverage on these elections. I mean, are you as aghast as I am?

Well, it's why Susan, Susan, or my wife and producer of this show, asked me to come in today because we were watching this and we're like, we can't, you can't even believe what's happening from this distance. and people, the Europeans can make sense of it, the people on this, this ship can make sense of it. And they just literally are in total disbelief. And the fact of the matter is that this is what I wanted to say, is that people need to take, look, Caleb, I sent you a long email, a Twitter thread, X thread about the legal circumstances of voting in California and in Los Angeles.

And literally, the voting, circumstances, the laws around voting are so loose is the kindest word, I can say. They are so ridiculous. You can backdate. The signatures don't have to match. You can do it on behalf of someone else. There's a million sort of laxities in the voting laws that have to be changed. I think if anything, vote for Attorney General, vote for Mike Gates when the final, he made it through the primary when the real election comes around. because the Attorney General might be able to do something here. But we've got to change the laws in California.

The same reason people are lying on the streets and done. It's the laws in California that are so egregious and literally are killing people. Caleb put up here the list of, yeah, see what he's highlighting there. But worse yet, though, people in Los Angeles have gotten so sideways over who you're voting for. Caleb, you actually have a personal story about this from Alabama. Oh, yeah, this was pretty insane. So literally all my wife did is she posted a just one Instagram story in support of Spencer Pratt. She's very, very, very, very rarely political on her social media.

And immediately she gets a message from a friend that she's had for almost 10 years demanding to know, why do you support somebody who believed in Sandy Hook conspiracy theories and blocked her right away? And my wife is just like bewildered by this because it literally takes two minutes to go on Google and find out that that whole claim is just TikTok misinformation slop. Right. And it made

me think about like how crazy things have actually gotten to this point where people believe something that's clearly untrue, don't even try to research it, and cuts off a friendship. And it reminded me also of like whenever I was a kid, I was raised Catholic. Raised Roman Catholic. A lot of Catholics believe that abortion is literally

murder. A lot of Catholics believe birth control is literally murder. But I don't know of a single time that any Catholic I know has cut off a person just for being a Democrat into a lot of Catholics that's literally murder to them. So it blows my mind that for a mayor election of Los Angeles, that's already been done. Like he's already out of the race now. So someone cut off a friendship almost a decade over something that's already been solved. And now the friendship is gone.

It makes no sense to me. It is bizarre. And I will say, honestly, we really are a third world country when it comes to voting. Drew, people act as if counting votes is, you know, like, you know, I don't know what, you know, launching a spaceship. In third world countries, you have the results of the election by midnight on election day. And personally, I think one of the quick fixes, I hate to say it, is that for me, other than the military, and I could be convinced that the military should be a car. I don't think there should be mail-in ballots.

If you're on vacation and you can't order to vote, better luck next time. If you are in the hospital and can't vote, then that's just the way it goes. I think we need to eliminate mail-in ballots, you know, remote voting of any sort other than, as I said, perhaps you could convince me for the military. Because that's where the problem is. Because every time they come up with this huge tranche of new ballots, you know, in pillow cases or boxes or whatever it is. They are never, never. And I rarely use the word, you know, never, but they never fall for the Republican. It is always a huge bunch of votes that come in

at the last minute and they all are for the Democrat in the race. And that's exactly what happened here. Nithia Rahman had already essentially conceded. She had this tearful post where she was out of the race. And the lo and behold, all of a sudden she's back in. Spencer Pratt's out. I mean, it's preposterous. Yeah. And this is the other reason that Susan wanted me to come in here was to hear your point of view on this because she goes, I'm sure Kelly's got something to say about this.

But there, again, there's a dump of tens of thousands of ballots. Zero for Spencer Pratt, a guy that got 30% of the votes. It just makes no sense whatsoever. But I agree with you. I think something like that, something has to be done. And while it's, of course, easier to mail in, It just, every other country in the earth is, you know, not every other country. Most countries don't do that, like you said.

Right. It becomes like a third world country. And it's a very strange situation in California. And it, like you said, the votes always kind of go one way. And let's remind everyone who want to then go, well, there's no such thing as voter fraud in Los Angeles. A woman was just convicted, I believe, today of having bribed people to vote. a certain way on Skid Row. Did you hear about that? The Department of G or J I think, yeah. So this is happening. Now, is it happening at the scale that people are worried about, or is it just the law that's

doing all this? Very hard to tell. Neither are good and neither are good for a functioning democracy. Well, I could tell you, it is statistically impossible, Drew, to have tens of thousands of votes come in in one tranche all for one candidate. It simply isn't possible. It isn't possible. And it happens over and over and over again. It happened in the 2020 presidential election with Trump. I mean, this happens.

You cannot have 300,000 new ballots come in. And remarkably not one of them is, I mean, it's ridiculous. Yet we don't do anything about it. And I think this is a real problem. Talk about, I think, you know, confidence in our voting system is an all-time low. And this, what's happening right now in California is really proof of it. And I think what starts to happen and what I fear will happen is people just say, why do I, I'm not even going to bother voting. It's not worth it.

My vote doesn't matter anymore. And that's very, very dangerous. Because if people won't even bother filling out the ballot, then we really have lost it. And the states themselves are really separating. My old friend Adam Crowell always said, he predicted this like five, ten years ago. He said there's going to be safe spaces and octagons. And those are going to be the sort of themes of the various states out there. And the safe spaces are eventually going to fall apart economically and socially.

And they're going to come to the octagon states and say, now we need your help. God only knows what's going to happen in those circumstances. I hope people find, you know, look, the deal with Spencer Pratt was he, it looks like he was going to lose anyway just by the number of people voting that the direction of both Nithia Rahman and Karen Bass. But it's just so odd that this, they know exactly what they got. They've been dealing with this. You know, she is not a good mayor. She, the city is not doing well under her. You would think people would want to change. why you'd want to stay the course, but you're going to get more of the same. And God knows how the Olympics are going to go and all the other many complicated projects that have to be done and how many people are going to die on our streets.

I don't know. But you need to get on with the screw worm and the panic du jour and the various publications that Nick have very wisely put out. And by the way, the tick-borne stuff is fascinating. The story, I hope Nick tells the whole story about Lyme virus. and the guy that was working on, allegedly, on gain of function around ticks, gets his name on the tick virus, on the, excuse me, on the Lyme, on the Lyme or Ketzal organism, which is, speaking of unlikely coincidences, how'd that happen.

Yeah, yeah. So we're going to be talking about this. I mean, nefarious is the nicest word I can say about it. It's really, I mean, this is sci-fi stuff. You're starting to engineer, you know, bugs. to infect us with things or to act as vectors of vaccines. You know, everyone knows, or hopefully has heard at this point that Bill Gates wanted to turn mosquitoes into flying syringes to, you know, inject people unwittingly with vaccines.

I mean, it is, this is creepy side-fized stuff. Isn't that the story with the Lyme disease, the allegation is that it was being used to, was being planned to be used to the agricultural industry in Cuba to try to cripple. that? Yes, that's a story. That's certainly what I had read, that that was initially engineered. It's fundamentally as a bioweapon. I mean, this is the, let's call it what it is. This is a definition drove a bio weapon engineered by, once again, our own government had their hands in it and the Department of Defense. And it's a, you know, it's a big secret, supposedly that's finally coming to air. So, yeah, we're going to get into the weeds on all of that. Nick is certainly a wealth of

information and as I said written prolifically on it. But I think it's something, again, these are not conspiracy theories when you have the receipts. We're not talking about UFOs. We're talking about stuff where we have the receipts. And it's something. So in the meantime, I would go out and eat a big steak because if you get infected with this, your days of eating steak. You got to eat a big fat, prime rib on the boat. Yeah. We did that. And it's like, midnight here now, but we'll do it again tomorrow and toast you. So thank you for doing this. All right. We'll be watching. Thanks for spending the evening with us. Have fun out there. Thanks. I'll be back after this with Nick Holshar and we'll get into the weeds on all of these

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Welcome back. Thank you for joining me. I'm Dr. Kelly Victory filling in for Dr. Drew Pinsky, who is just on as a guest on his own show in the last segment. He will be back next week, I believe, June 16th, and has a great lineup going from there. We'll cover that at the end of the show. But I'm super excited to be joined in the rest of the show today by Nick Holman.

Many of you out there are undoubtedly already following Nick. He is an epidemiologist of a great repute. He works with the McCullough Foundation as well as now with the wellness company. He has authored over 25 scientific papers, really broad range of topics, everything from COVID to vaccine injuries, cancer, and importantly, has spent a lot of time and authorship on the very, determinants of autism spectrum disorder, something that I'm certainly very interested in and their association with vaccines. He is authored a recent substack on our first topic of the day, which is going to be, I really want to get into this issue about tick-borne diseases and specifically

alpha-gal syndrome. Some of you out there may not have actually heard much about it. So we're going to sort of demystify that, look at it, talk about where it came from, what it means, and what to do about it, and then we'll get into the rest of it. So let's bring Nick on to join me here. Welcome, Nick. I'm so happy to. Thanks. I meant to mention you also are indefatigable. This guy is the ever-ready, you know, energizer bunny. I don't know when you ever sleep if you do, because I I always get an immediate response from you. You constantly crank out responses to any inquiries. You're really quite remarkable in that way.

And we appreciate your involvement, certainly at the McCullough Foundation and TWC, because it's brought just a level of scientific rigor to our things. You are certainly the ones responsible for bringing our Ivermectin and mebendazole, which we can talk about also and its impact on. cancer, really authoring that and helping us to get it published in a well-respected, peer-reviewed journal, the International Anti-Cancer Research Journal. And we're having some bumps in the road there, I think, because once again, we have threatened the orthodoxy, as it were.

So we'll talk about that at the end. But let's talk about Alpha-Gal. And for people out there, I'm going to get into the real, or I want you to get into the real basics of it for a few minutes in terms of explaining exactly what alpha-gal is. People think that you get, quote, infected with alpha-gal. That's not the case. Alpha-gal is my understanding is a sugar molecule that is naturally occurring in almost all red meat, beef, pork, veal, and in a large number of, of animal byproducts, specifically dairy products. So it's my understanding that alpha-gal is a sugar molecule

and this infection or whatever it is that comes from the tick bite causes you to develop an allergic reaction to that shirkule. And therefore, you have an allergic reaction to anything, any food product, primarily red meat and dairy that contains that. And that allergic reaction can be anything from as simple as breaking out into hives, a rash, itching, to full-blown anaphylaxis

the way that you would have from abesting or something else, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, gastrointestinal, distress, those sorts of things. So let's talk first about, you know, exactly, did I get that right? You know, do I understand really what alpha-gal the syndrome is? How common is it, you know, has there been an increase and where it's coming from? Yeah, you're absolutely correct. That's exactly how it works. The tick basically installs large amounts while it bites you while it's burrowed in your skin, large amounts of the alpha-gal sugar-like molecule. And that sensitizes your immune system to when you're exposed to it next, say from red meat or other types of meat, you have an autoimmune or immune reaction, immune attack to that alpha. Gale and then, yeah, you could suffer anaphylaxis, hives, or other debilitating symptoms. So, yeah, it's about 500,000 Americans are currently suspected to have Alpha Gale syndrome. So a large number, but it's increasing quite dramatically.

In fact, just since 2013, a recent study found alpha Gale syndrome has increased by 10,000 percent. So something's going on that is driving this dramatic increase. Yeah, so that was my understanding is that this isn't a brand new thing. It had existed before, but the numbers were in the, you know, tens of thousands of people total over a period of a couple decades. And just recently, I think in the past two, three, you know, it's gone from, you know, 100,000 cases to all of a sudden, 500,000 cases, correct? Yeah. And so to what is, yeah, do we know to what that is being? attributed? Well, there's many suspicions. There's the group that says it's climate change and deer migration. And then there's the group that says something nefarious. Now, I'm on the side of something nefarious because it has not been properly investigated. And there's five reasons. The first reason is we do have reports of some farmers finding tick boxes or mysterious aircraft over

their property dropping things or even air drops of mysterious things. Now, those can't be fully verified, but regardless, we have to take it seriously. Second, there's a peer-reviewed paper published in the journal Bioethics. These bioethicists from Western Michigan University say it's morally obligatory to genetically modified lone star ticks using CRISPR to intentionally spread alpha-gal syndrome among the population. They call it a moral bio-enhancement to stop people from eating meat. So that's literally bioterrorism published in a major journal. And then we had another ethics professor at NYU.

He was talking to the World Economic Forum, I believe. And he said the same thing. He said they want to intentionally use human engineering to spread these ticks and give people Al-Fa-Gal. And then we have Gates Foundation giving $7.6 million. to a company called Flitter to literally make a GMO self-limiting cattle ticks. And then lastly, we had the U.S. Army release over 270,000 radioactive labeled ticks into the wild in the 1960s, including 170,000 lone star ticks. So there's evidence that something bioterror-related may be going on.

Yeah, I'm with you. And again, I really don't like to think of myself as a, quote, conspiracy theorist, but I think the receipts are stacking up such that you'd be led to believe that there is something going on here. Going back for a second to that published study from, or I don't know if it's a study article from Michigan, to refer to this as morally obligate, we are morally obligated. to modify ticks to instill alpha-gal. That is beyond sinister. That is so evil to me. It is so psychotic, sociopathic,

the idea that you believe that you have the right, let alone the obligation to instill a medical condition in the population that could kill them, frankly. I mean, anaphylaxis is no, you know, joking matter. There's no such thing as a mind. I mean, it is full out. You could have, you know, a life-altering event from this, but that they are so sure that their thoughts about climate change or meat consumption or whatever it is, that they should have the, that they have the right to instill this. I mean, it's absolutely pure evil. And I think also, as you did touch on this issue with Bill Gates has a long and storied past. of wanting to use insects, mosquitoes, ticks, other things, to carry as vectors, everything from vaccines.

He talked about wanting to create masses of flying syringes that would, you know, bite people and inject them with vaccines to counter the vaccine hesitancy thing. And then, again, I'm like you, I, you know, I live, as I said, in Colorado a lot of the time, and I've heard these reports from ranchers. I live out in the hinterlands. people saying they're from these boxes of insects. Again, I have not personally verified it. I've heard everyone from Joe Rogan to others talk about it.

I haven't seen it validated, but enough people are saying it that it makes me wonder if this is true. So talk a little bit about, you know, how would we work this up? How would we investigate this? Yeah, well, the first step, well, who investigates bioterrorism? that would be the FBI. And so, you know, they caught Vincent Munster, NIH Viral, just last week, they arrested him for smuggling in 113 vials of pathogens from the Congo, including monkeypox, chicken pox, and human DNA.

So they did a good job there. I would hope they could do a good job in try and identify any actors, state actors, foreign actors, or even domestic actors that may be committing bioterrorism by releasing ticks either modified or natural to give people alpha-gal syndrome, given that we now have these professors literally calling for it, literally calling for it. And, you know, there's other things with ticks, though. There's other things with ticks, Lyme disease, right? And I think that's important.

We've got to touch on Lyme disease. So there's like 500,000 Americans diagnosed with it every year. It's a bacteria transmitted by a deer tick. And so, but it doesn't kill you. It just can cause debilitating symptoms if left untreated. If you don't get prompt antibiotics within, you know, at least a week, you know, it could progress and start to infect other organs. So, but what's interesting about Lyme disease is it originated in the, in 1975, in Lyme, Connecticut, 10 miles from the Plum Island military bio-weather. weapons lab, 10 miles from the Plum Island lab where they were literally doing weaponized tick

research. Okay, so we do suspect, and even RFK suspects it, that Lyme disease likely originated from a military bio-weapons lab on Plum Island. Because, I mean, what else could explain it just kind of exploding this mysterious arthritis-like illness that they were finding 10 minutes from the biolab. And so, you know, it just brings into question how many of these diseases are natural and how many are man-made? Well, let me tell you, as a physician, I could tell you, Lyme disease, the burden, the disease burden and the suffering, the morbidity from Lyme disease is huge. As you said, if you get bitten by a tick that's carrying this rickettsial

disease, the Lyme, then you can treat it with antibiotics if you know right away. If it's untreated or undertreated, in other words, you're not on antibiotics for long enough period of time. It affects multiple organ systems can cause debilitating arthritis, can cause issues in the brain, the heart. Almost every organ system can be affected by Lyme disease. And the idea that this is potentially, boy, it's smack so happening in COVID, right? All of a sudden, you, you know, have the outbreak of this novel thing, you know, back in 76, just like with this outbreak of, you know, coronavirus that happens, you know, right down the road from a virology institute that we then later find out has been manipulating that very virus. Same thing with this

Klam Island. We know they were manipulating tick-borne diseases and then all of a sudden we have Lyme. It would be truly interesting to find out if we could ever get access to those classified documents to prove that once again, the lion was created by our own government. Just to clarify, again, the alpha-gal syndrome requires the lone star tick. The Lyme disease requires a deer tick. So they are different in terms of the insect. But once again, being manipulated. And before we cut to the break and come back with other things, I feel obligated.

as again, as a clinician who is taking care of a lot of people with tick bites and has had a lot of tick bites myself. Here's what you do if you get people. Number one, do not believe everything you read with regard to, you know, Vaseline and lighters and matches and all that other crap. Get a pair of handy tweezers. Put the tweezers right at the skin where the head of the tick has entered your skin. Grab it firmly and with steady, with steady, pressure, pull back on that tick to get the head out. Do not pull from the body. You got to get the head out. It will feel like there's some resistance because there is. It's pesky little teeth have dug in as little barbs on it. Pull that tick out. Then do not flush that tick down the toilet.

Take a piece of scotch tape and tape that tick to an index card, write the date on it, where you were bitten on your body and throw it in a drawer. Then if 10 days, two weeks later, you develop a fever, a rash, unusual symptoms, you can take that handy tick to your doctor where they can actually test it. They can test it to find out if that tick is infected. It comes back way faster than thrown blood tiders. So super easy. No reason to panic. No reason to walk around, you know, fearful of ticks. No reason to avoid hiking. or being in the backwoods or wherever else because you're afraid of a tick bite. Simply be cautious, get bitten by one that embeds, do what I just said, save the tick,

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Welcome back. I'm joined today by Nick Holscher, epidemiologist, and prolific scientific writer. We're talking about it, and I want to go back. And Nick, I was, I bogarded the microphone at the last of that segment. And I want to go back for a second on Alpha-Gal syndrome. Specifically, to talk about the impact, we said, you know, it induces this potential allergy. What do we know thus far, if anything, about potential how to undo that, how to treatment. Is there any way to become unallergic?

Yeah, currently there's no drugs that have been identified, but there's. is something extraordinarily promising. It's actually a specialized form of ear acupuncture. A study came out and found a 96% remission rate of alpha-gal syndrome in those who underwent this auricular acupuncture procedure. And so as you can see to the right, it's a very strange procedure. I never would have thought this would have worked, but you can't argue with 96% eating meat again. So they touch a bottle of alpha-gal allergen. They touch the outside of the bottle. They use some sort of electrical detection device on the ear to identify the spot where to put place the needle. They place the needle into the optimal spot. They put tape there, leave it there for three weeks.

When the three weeks are up, they take it out, and 96% of them could eat meat again after slowly reintroducing it. So this is extraordinarily promising. If I had alpha-gal syndrome, I would for sure undergo this procedure. I have to say, I read this study when you wrote it up or talked about it in a substack, either you or Dr. McCullough did. And I thought, first of all, why did anyone ever think about to do that? Like I got a great idea. Let's touch this model and stick something in your ear.

Like, why would that reverse? You know, I believe in a lot of alternative therapies and a lot of alternative, you know, Eastern medicine. I certainly made a big believer in acupuncture, but why doing this thing on the ear would somehow reverse any? I mean, it just, it seems so random. I agree with you. You can't argue with 96% of people reversing an allergy to something. Any theories, any thoughts about how, why that would work?

There's some sort of connection with the immune system and those particular points in the ear. it's called the Solomon allergy zone. Now, I'm not an expert, so I honestly couldn't tell you exactly, but it appears there is some sort of biological activity, immune activity that occurs in that area, particularly when you place in a needle there. And it's, you know, it's, again, this is a form of Eastern medicine, something that is definitely neglected in the Western world. So we got to start to fund larger studies.

with this as an extremely promising method. Well, that's interesting. So there's actually an area of the ear that's associated with other allergies or immune responses. Is that? Okay, I didn't know that. That's interesting. I normally think about acupuncture as a pain, you know, to modulate pain interrupt,

nerve conduction, nerve pain in the pain fibers. But if there's actually an area there that addresses allergy or immune response, That's fascinating. And I agree with you. I think that we are woefully remiss in addressing and really incorporating Eastern medicine and a lot of the things we don't know. But look, and we can get to this at the end of the show, but look at how much pushback there is when you do something as simple, as threatening to the orthodoxy, as suggests that we use a repurposed medication like Ivermectin to treat cancer. You know, they're running around with their hair on fire. They can't stand that. So if we start talking about, being able to reverse their engineered meat allergy by acupuncture, you know, that will not be

well received, I'm sure, by the, by the, you know, feckless band of Nerdu Wells who launched this thing in the first place. Anything else on tick-borne stuff that you wanted to cover? Yeah, yeah, you know, Pfizer won't be happy. So what Pfizer did, they developed a Lyme disease vaccine. It's four doses. And they're already propagating it up on the mainstream media as being some highly effective miracle. It's not. I looked at the so-called trial. And they claim like 73% efficacy against Lyme disease. But you look at the 95% confidence interval. So if they repeated this study 100 times, you know, what would the numbers be 95 of those times? It fell down to 15% efficacy. And so they literally specified it in the criteria. They needed a lower bound confidence

interval of at least 20 percent to say it was statistically successful. So it failed its primary endpoint. And it's looking like a complete failure. But they're going to try and give it to millions of Americans anyways. Right. And so think about this. You can either take Pfizer's four dose shot for Lyme disease that has, you know, limited efficacy. Or if you get bitten by a tick in a Lyme-prone area, you could take a single dose of doxycline in a single dose, meaning you don't need to do the whole three-week course of it.

One dose of doxicline decreases your risk of contracting Lyme disease by 97% after you've been bitten. So if I buy a tick in a Lyme-prone area, which Colorado is not, But I would take a dose of doxycycline, say, okay, I don't know if it's going to have, but that way I've decreased. It doesn't mean you couldn't possibly contract Lyme, but you've limited your chance. Or you can roll the dice and take yet another vaccine and hope your immune system lives to tell about it. I mean, truly, this is my issue is that I didn't start this whole journey, by the way, Nick.

I didn't start this journey as a, quote, anti-vaxxer. years ago, people thought of me as, you know, a vaccine zealot. I thought it was very important to get vaccinated for things like measles, mumps, you know, rebello, all that stuff, until really, right leading into COVID, I was starting to see the light on some of this stuff and connect the dots on autism. And now, you know, you've got to understand they wanted, they would lead you to believe that you need a new vaccine for fundamentally every single new infection that comes down the pike, you know, everything from, you know,

hauntavirus, Ebola, all of that. You know, that's what's next. Yeah, they want vaccines for everything. They don't want any other safe, non-patentable, cheap treatments. They just want to inject something into the arm that they can emergency use authorize and not face any accountability for whatsoever. They'll have full liability protection.

It's a big bracket and it's a very deadly one. And, you know, it wouldn't surprise me if they want to come up with a vaccine for New World Screwworm. Yeah, exactly. That's where I was going next is New World Screwworm. So let's talk about you. Screw worm has been around for decades. It was eradicated, I believe, in this country back, I think, in the 60s, right? Like 1966, something like that.

We had eradicated it here. but there's still outbreaks of it and primarily south of the border. We now have, I think, a total of four confirmed cases in animals in the United States, I think between Texas and New Mexico. This is a larvae that is spread by a specific fly that the fly lands on wounds,

on humans or animals. The lands on the wound spits the air. egg larvae into that wound and the insects, the larvae, burrow into the wound and cause these really fungating huge mass lesions that cause tremendous, tremendous tissue damage and can cause death. What do you make of this? Is there something we should be worried about? You know, where's this going, Nick? No, the risk to humans is extraordinarily low.

I said the biggest risk is for basically livestock production, meat supply, food supply, and economic losses. So if this establishes itself and becomes widespread among multiple states, you know, we could face billions of dollars in losses and very expensive beef prices. So that's the major risk here. But we have a solution. We have a solution. And we're back to the famous so-called horse paste. It literally, so Ivermectin literally paralyzes and terminates the New World screw worm.

It forces open. It's chloride ion channels and its nervous system and muscular system forces these chloride ions through, and they become paralyzed and die. And so literally had 97% efficacy in livestock. Over 12 field studies have been conducted since like the 80s. So 97 of the 100 cattle given Ivermectin with these New World screw worm flies flying around did not get the infestations of the larvae and their wounds. So it works completely well. And it even works in humans.

There was a few case series of people getting these screw worm infestations in their mouth and in their eye sockets. They took Ivermectin and it literally just decimated the larvae. they couldn't eat away anymore. And then just some manual debridgment of the wound clearing out those dead larva, those dead maggots from the wound. So yeah, we have a solution, very effective. Well, and this shouldn't be a surprise, right? I mean, Ivermectin, it was developed as an antiparacetic drug.

It treats worms. So it's the idea that it would be effective against these larvae will stretch. But of course, the powers that B would not. go to that. You know, they started, oh, my God, what are we going to do? And by the way, if I get screw warm in my eyeball, I'm just done. Okay. I'm checking out. But, you know, it makes total sense that Ivermectin would work. So why wouldn't, if you're really concerned about this as, you know, the public health people are leading us to believe that they are, why wouldn't you just, you know, treat your entire, you know, herd with Ivermectin and prevent this and say, well,

just wipe out any screw worms that are there. It was my understanding that the way we eradicated it, by the way, back in the 60s, was they did something to manipulate these things to make them sterile so that they fly sterile so that they couldn't mate with each other and propagate any more little screw worms. I'm not sure why they're not doing that again. But I like your idea of why not just use Ivermectin? Yeah, they use what's called sterile fly releases. And they are actively doing that.

So they take a bunch of male screw worm flies, irradiate them to make them sterile. And then they release like tens of millions, hundreds of millions in an attempt to breed with the females. And then, you know, the eggs will be just non-viable. And so they hope, you know, they say that that successfully worked in the 60s 70s. But honestly, they have been doing it. appears for the past two years. I just saw the Texas Ag Commissioners say it's not working because they've been doing it since like 2023 and yet we still get this outbreak. So I guess yeah, it looks like we'll have to deploy other things. But yeah, particularly I would say the

Ibermectin, the USDA even authorized it a few months ago for use for this very purpose. Then you have other things like traps that will kind of attract the screw worm flies. They'll go of the traps and then be killed. So, you know, there's multiple methods to be used. But again, so a couple of things. Number one, for everyone I'm watching, you do not be worried about screw worm. Okay, screw worm affects, you know, open wounds. The people who got these things in their mouths or their eyes had wounds there.

The people in their eyes had advanced cancers up here that the flies landed on and deposited eggs. It's been well-known, you know, people with those sorts of wounds. get infected with maggots at other times as well. This one just happens to be a screw worm maggot that can cause real devastation. Something else you said, however, Nick, that now if I put on my full-blown conspiracy hat, hadn't occurred to me. You know, we're talking about this alpha-gal syndrome and the fact that there are people out

there who believe that it is their moral obligation to modify ticks so that we spread alpha-gal and therefore keep people from eating meat. Is it possible that this screw worm could be caused to specifically to drive up beef prices to artificially inflate? You talk about ways to try. There are ways to motivate people to not eat meat if that's your, you know, raison debt. If you really think that, you know, this is what I live for is to keep people from eating

meat, you can make them allergic to it or you can make meat really scarce or you can make meat really scarce, or you can drive the prices up, such a rich person simply could not afford it. Oh, yeah, it's definitely possible. Somebody, some agent could easily have taken, you know, some female screw worms and released them in some, you know, rural area. Nobody would have ever known. And so, and they could even plant it in multiple locations. And so it's entirely possible. They could hit, they could hit Americans from three prongs through the loan start. So they can't eat meat. And then through the New World Screw Worm, so they can't afford the meat.

And then they offer the solution, the upside foods lab engineered meat that doesn't have alpha-gal or beyond meat, the fake soy base meat. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I really, I hate to say it. I think you can call it conspiracy theory, but it does sort of all tee up. And when you have, you know, people, scientists, you know, putting out, you know, reports in peer-reviewed journals saying that they have a moral obligation to do these things,

I don't think it's that long, you know, it's not such a long shot to think about. We're coming down to the end of the time here, but I do want to talk just about, sort of get your take, somebody from, you know, from your purview, where you see, as I always call it, you know, the scare du jour or the infection du jour, the panic de jour. You know, we've gone through, obviously, we all live through COVID, and then it's monkey pox, Ebola, Zika, Marburg, you know, hanta, screw worm. I feel like it's a never-ending litany of stuff we're supposed to panic about and then wait, hopefully, that they'll come up with a new therapeutic and or vaccine for it.

I mean, am I crazy or is that how it looks to you? Yeah, it's a never-ending cycle of infectious disease scares and then offering the so-called vaccine solution. So we had COVID, right? Then we had hot the virus, which ended up being a dead-end outbreak. Then we had Ebola, the Bundabugio strain from the Congo. That appears to be dying down a bit.

It's not going to become a pandemic. There's been 40 Ebola outbreaks since the 70s. Not one ever became a pandemic. And now the next step is they're putting in world-co. fear. You type in World Cup outbreak on Google. You'll see all the mainstream news sites are saying, how do we stop Ebola at the World Cup? And they're saying, we're not prepared for an outbreak at the World Cup. And they even ran multiple war games and drills already recently did. Even our own government ran a MERS outbreak, Middle East respiratory distress syndrome. They ran a drill specifically linked to the

World Cup. And then New York City Health Hospital System. ran an Ebola outbreak linked to the World Cup. So that's their next ploy. Let's hope they don't pull any tricks here. Yeah, I agree. I mean, Ebola, I have said and firmly believe, should not be a risk to the vast, vast majority of people, unless you're vacationing in the Congo or on a pleasure trip to Uganda,

your risk of contracting Ebola is fundamentally zero. It's not a respiratory virus. It is only spread through direct person-to-person contact with bodily fluids and blood and related in part to the custom that these cultures use when people die of Ebola, that they bathe them and wrap them and therefore are touching the very thing that they shouldn't be touching and therefore spreading this. But the idea that it could become something of concern in an area of significant population like the World Cup is terrifying, only when you know what these people are capable of.

So currently there's no vaccine for Ebola, correct? Well, they're working on them. There's vaccines for other strains of Ebola, like the Zaris strain. But in fact, you can't even make this up. Gates funded their vaccine enterprise, Sepi, gave Moderna and the University of Oxford millions of dollars to make an Ebola Bundabugio strain MRI and viral vector shots four months before the Congo Ebola outbreak. And so they were already making it before it even happened,

as we see basically every single time. Well, here, fun fact, remdesivir. If you remember remdesivir from COVID, the one that many doctors like myself termed Roth is near. because it was so profoundly toxic and led people to develop renal failure and subsequently die, not from COVID, but from remdesivir poisoning. Remdesivir was developed to treat Ebola, and it failed. It was an absolute abject disaster during Ebola because it killed people, didn't work,

and it actually killed people, and then they had the audacity to dust it up, often, you know, run it back up the flagpole when COVID came along. Well, maybe it didn't work for that. It didn't kill a lot of people. Let's try for COVID and did the same thing. But that was originally developed to treat Ebola. So there's sort of no end to the hubris of these people running the ship here. So anyway, we're over time here.

Any parting thoughts? Nick, where can people find you? Yeah, people can find me on X at NIC Halsher. I'm also on Instagram, Facebook, and you can follow me on LinkedIn if you want. That's where all the trolls are at. They mask report me. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm sure.

Well, hey, before we go, I do want to talk, you know, you as I said were the lead author on the wellness companies study with regard to ivermectin and mebendazol and the treatment for cancer. And we were completely forthcoming and saying, look, this was an observable. study and was, you know, all the flaws inherent in an observational study, meaning we weren't controlling, you know, whether people were participating in other therapies, chemotherapy, surgery, we weren't controlling their diets or their exercise levels. We weren't controlling even the dose of ivermectin and menazole that they were taking. All those things said, the results after

six months were pretty remarkable. 84% of people with these different cancers had a positive outcome, you know, almost 50% of them had either zero evidence of disease after six months or had regression of their tumors. And another 36% had no progression. So we put all these, you know, these observations together. You do a brilliant job writing up the study. We submit it to a journal. It gets fully vetted and reviewed and accepted by the International Journal of Anti-Cancer Research.

that was back in April. And tell us what happened after that, Nick. Yeah, they officially put an expression of concern on the article threatening imminent retraction based on so-called concerns from the international oncology community, end quote. So what appears to have happened is the biopharmaceutical complex and their journal cartel enforcement arm. want our paper removed, just literally weeks after it's published and becomes a number one hit on Google. And even their second most read paper of their journal, their journal's been around for 20 years or 40 years anti-cancer research. And so they're digging themselves into a deep hole if they continue to, if they really go through with this.

And we have a large paper trail. And so I really hope that they don't violate cope guidelines and other. ethical breaches and remove this very important paper, they will contribute to the destruction of science. And so, and this goes, they've been tracking so many of our papers out. They threaten them. They make up claims. They make up lies. And then they just want to wipe our papers out of existence. And it's not going to work for much longer. And we have other plans in place in case that happens. No, and again, I appreciate your work on. I'm an author on that paper as well, but you did the heavy lifting.

And I've said this from the beginning of COVID. I always prided myself, Nick, when I was going through my training and up to, you know, relatively recently, at being that person who went to the journal. I read, you know, I'd go read the Lance at the BMJ that, you know, all of the once storied medical journals, which now I realize and have for the past six years are nothing more than the marketing rags for Big Pharma. Your chance of getting a study published if it doesn't come to the conclusion that Big Pharma wants it to is essentially zero. And here we are. We get a study published and the biofarmaceutical complex gets a hold of it, gets wind of it.

And they say, whoa, whoa, whoa, we'll have none of that. And they clearly are applying the thumb screws to the editors. the powers that be at the journal and saying, take this down, take this down. It is very clear from the letters that they've written us with their, quote, concern, their level of concern about this all of the sudden after it was published. And so people should be aware what you are, what those journals are nothing more than pharmaceutical marketing if we can be censored in this way. So I'm with you.

I'm hopeful that they don't do it. they will have, it will be a shot across the bow, boy, if they do, because it's very clear that they are owned and that they, there's zero integrity in science any longer. So thank you again, Nick. Great to talk with you. Always, always enjoy it. We'll talk soon.

Thanks for having me. All right, thanks. Dr. Drew will be back, Drew and Susan. Are we going to be back from their trip on the 16th? He's got a great lineup on the 16th. right on the 16th, Rob Rosen with his book's Crimes of Omission. The 17th, Gad's sad. That'll be a great, great show.

I'm really looking forward to tuning in on that. Other highlights here, Andrew Yang on the 24th. He's got Dr. Manichy, the Danish Childhood Vaccine Program. That's coming up on the 25th. So really great lineup here going well into July, way too many for me to read. But Drew will be back having witnessed the car race in Monte Carlo. And as I said, hopefully eaten a few extra stakes on the cruise ship in hopes just in case he gets infected with Alpha Gal. Anyway, I hope this was certainly very interesting to me to learn.

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