Ask Dr. Drew - A Dumpster Baby, A Dwarf & Dr. Drew: Jiaoying Summers & Brad Williams Are Breaking Comedy Records – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 303

Episode Date: December 28, 2023

In China, Jiaoying Summers was once a “dumpster baby” thrown out by her own father, and now she’s an internationally acclaimed comedian and TikTok star with over 1 billion views. Brad Williams was born with achondroplasia dwarfism, and now his first one-hour special “Fun Size” is the highest rated special on Showtime. Both are breaking records as comedians and defying all odds as they sell out venues around the world. Jiaoying Summers was once a “dumpster baby” in China, and now she’s an internationally acclaimed comedian and TikTok star with over 1 billion views. She was recently inducted into the Asian Hall Of Fame and made history as the first Chinese comedian to headline the Apollo Theater in NYC. Follow her at https://instagram.com/JIAOYINGSUMMERS and find more at https://jiaoyingsummers.com/ Brad Williams is one of today’s most in-demand comedians. He is a dwarf, whose new special on LiveNation’s streaming service Veeps, premieres today — because it’s the shortest day of the year! Brad’s first one-hour special, “Fun Size,” was the highest rated special on Showtime. Brad’s also appeared in Adult Swim’s Robot Chicken, Little Evil, Mascots, and Reno 911: It’s A Wonderful Heist. Brad was named by the late Robin Williams as “Prozac with a head.” Follow him at https://x.com/funnybrad and find more at https://bradwilliamscomedy.com 「 SPONSORED BY 」 Find out more about the companies that make this show possible and get special discounts on amazing products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get an extra discount with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew • COZY EARTH - Trying to think of the right present for someone special? Susan and Drew love Cozy Earth's sheets & clothing made with super-soft viscose from bamboo! Use code DREW to save up to 40% at https://drdrew.com/cozy • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician with over 35 years of national radio, NYT bestselling books, and countless TV shows bearing his name. He's known for Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Teen Mom OG (MTV), The Masked Singer (FOX), multiple hit podcasts, and the iconic Loveline radio show. Dr. Drew Pinsky received his undergraduate degree from Amherst College and his M.D. from the University of Southern California, School of Medicine. Read more at https://drdrew.com/about Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

we're going to switch gears today oh why do i sound so echoey it's very odd i don't think my is my mic on okay very good uh we are going to have a couple of comedians in here first in studio with me we'll have zhao ying summer she's a friend and a brilliant comedian and because it has a great story and a lot to talk about brad williams is supposed to uh stop by as well that we haven't heard from him yet uh dumpster baby and a dwarf is how this episode was framed by Caleb. We'll explain to you what that's all about. Stay with us. We will write back. We'll also be out on Twitter spaces taking calls perhaps a little bit later. Stay with us. Our laws as it pertained to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopath started

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Welcome. It's my honor. I'm so happy to be here. I should come here more because it's only 15 minutes from my house and I can leave my children. Susan will set you up for that. She's dying already. So there's a lot to today's show which is that susan worked very hard to get this set up get this studio set up so we could welcome people right into the

into the studio we haven't fully finished the cameras and the lighting all this stuff we had steve in here a couple weeks ago a week ago and now jayeng because she lives so near us which i can't get through my head it's it's just so weird to me that anyone lives near us that we know who is particularly a comedian. The San Gabriel Valley. A good comedian. A brilliant comedian. But I guess there are a lot of Chinese people out in this area. Yeah.

A lot. We got my mom here because it's easy for her. She doesn't speak good English. Me either. But it's convenient for my mom. Because there's other people from her culture and speaks her language and things. And explain the dumpster baby part of the story because people were already reacting to that.

What? It's very funny because people ask me, how do you know you are a dumpster baby? My dad tells me every Tuesday. That's how I know when I can speak. One, two, three, you are from a dumpster. It's not like he went until I am smart enough to process that he loves me. No, he's like, we kept you.

You don't have a penis, so do better. So I know it very early on. And every girl will tell their story about, oh, I lived in my auntie's house for 10 years. I lived with another relative in a different city for like 13 years. Because you didn't have a penis. Well, yeah, it's missing, yeah.

Yeah, it's missing. But my father still kept me because he really do love me. So even though he disdained you for not having a penis, the fact that he kept you was extraordinary. It showed his love. Yeah, I'm very lucky and I don't want to brag, but I feel very bad for the other girls.

I think he loves me. They all went to the orphanage or the dumpster. They to the dumpster, right? So he rescued you from the dumpster. He didn't. My mom did. Your mom did. She felt bad for me because she heard me crying.

And she think if she didn't save me, what is going to make her life worse? Right. And you mentioned before the cameras heated up here, you were sitting very perfectly still with impeccable posture. And you said something to me about why that is so. My mom smacked me with a spoon, like a wooden spoon, a big one.

She'll smack me. She's like, you're already ugly. The only thing you can do is to stand up straight. And that's the least you can do. That's the least you could do. Yeah, she just do that. She's like, do not slouch. You are short.

And does she still get on you about not looking the way she wants you to look or not being a perfect child? Yes, yes. She'll smidge my lipstick. She's like, your lipstick, you draw it too big. Your lip's too big. Just do not draw it so big. You know, you are drawing attention to your lips. And then we were at Jimmy Kimmel Club

when I hang out with you and Susan and Lmao. So it was in Las Vegas. We went and saw Xiaoying in Las Vegas. And she also very kindly helped us out on a show we did in New York. And Susan's, what? Susan wants to talk. Yes, all true.

All true. All true. And we're hanging out. That's where you were worried about your lipstick. My mom was walking outside. She saw the marquee at the Kimmel Club. And she said that, you really do look better in photos.

Does she ever give you a break? Is there anything positive she ever says or is that just contrary to Chinese mom instinct? Never. There's nothing nice, but only one time she was nice to me is when I had this really ugly fight with my ex-husband. I was on my way out to take my 30-minute special Peacock. And he was trying to just discourage me. He was saying, oh, remember you used to stutter when you were little?

I read an article, if you do a big event and you got nervous, it's likely you are going to stutter. So you should not do the show. So hold on, slow down. So you pack a lot into everything you say. So- It's all the trauma. So it's all the trauma.

Yeah, it's all the trauma. I understand. But did you stutter when you were a kid? I did a little bit. I was very insecure. So I used to stutter, but then I was able to overcome it. And you were insecure because you were rescued from a dumpster?

No, because I was ugly. You were ugly? Yeah, because I wasn't- In the eyes of your mom, at least. Yes, because, well, other people too. Because I wasn't pretty. How is that possible? Oh, you told me about skin color or something?

Yeah, my big lips and my jaw and they call me Cage Fighter. That's my nickname. Cage Fighter? Yes. The problem is me is that I refuse to believe

I was ugly so I try to do the pretty girl thing and then that's how I get all the attacks. All the attacks? From other kids. Did the other,

you know, girls around age 12 to 14 get very cruel with each other? Yes. Was that happening? So you got it for being pretty and not being pretty enough, both? I got it for being not pretty and try to do pretty girl shit. Who was it that mostly came at you for that?

I think the guys and the girls. They just do like, you're not going to wear pink. You should not be dancing with the girls. You're like a man. I figured out by just give up. I cut my hair short, start doing sports and start doing well in school.

Did you ever think about transitioning? That would be good. I didn't know there's technology. You didn't know that was the... Yeah, that would be life-changing. That would... I mean, your dad would love you again, for one thing.

I know, I know. Think about that. That would be really good for me. That really brings up an interesting topic. Now, being female is not as disparaged now in China as it was when you were a baby, right? Now it's good to be a girl. Now it's good to be a girl.

Very good. But was there any movement in the transgender direction or the Chinese Communist Party didn't like that? I think in Thailand, they have a lot of- Thailand does have a lot of, but that's not China. Boys transitioning into girls because it's expensive to raise a boy. It's cheaper to raise a girl. If you are a girl, you can be against it.

You can make money for the family. A boy, you have to pay a lot of money for the wedding to get a girl. But in China right now, it's good to be a girl. Even ugly girls, they're having a good time. Because of gender, there's gaps. There's more guy, less girls. It's very hard for them to find a wife. So it's a market issue.

It's a market issue. Girls are more in demand. But back to when it was different, when women were disdained, did anybody want to become female? Any cutting of penises off and losing penises? Nobody would want to be a girl. I'm sorry, I'll be the other way around. Building penises, I'm sorry. That would be a fantasy.

We didn't know you can do that. Because x-ray is not legal. Because if you know it's a girl, you abort the baby immediately. So that's why they won't make it legal for ultrasound. Whoa. So transitioning would be... So hold on now. So is so much of that stuff that went on

with females being a problem, that's not a government thing? That was a cultural thing? It's always been a cultural thing that a man is worth more. Every, like if you see all of the period piece of the Chinese history, all the shows every woman is competing to have a boy if you have a man you you basically you become the important woman but

there was some of that in sort of feudal western societies too right yeah but in china it's worse i think and it kept going it kept going a lot longer yes in china how do you experience what was it like coming here and i mean i I think females are valued here, right? Or do you see it differently? We are valued a little bit more. A little bit? With like, in America, like, you know, in terms of speech, we empower women verbally,

but deep down, we try to be sneaky about trying to fuck women up. Tell me more. Yeah, In America, we're like, women have the same rights. And Michelle Obama read this amazing book,

she tried to empower women. But then, when we were little girls, they would just be like, oh, that's not the girl thing to do. Girls don't do that. But not in a way

like you are worth less. But that's still your mom in your head though, isn't it? Do you do that to your daughter? No, I don't want to do it to her because she's perfect. I mean, she's a little choppy. She could take some Ozempics, but nobody's perfect, right? And she's what, nine?

No, she's three. Three, three. So just getting into the Ozempic range. Yeah, I would love to talk to Dr. Zhu about that. But yeah, she's very chubby. But then she's perfect and you love her, but then you're handing her over to your mom a little bit. That must be scary for you.

My mom actually thinks my daughter is better than me. She said, your daughter, I think she's a genius. I said, why is she a genius? It's like, she's just so much smarter than you because you've been speaking English for 30 years. You don't speak a word. She's been learning. I said, why is she a genius? It's like, she's just so much smarter than you because you've been speaking English for 30 years. You don't speak a word. She's been learning for three years. Her English is better than yours.

As a mom, she was born in America. Like she speak English is, it only means that she's not a moron. She's not stupid. That's all. It's not that she's smart. And I was like, you are just jealous of her. So she likes my daughter. She likes my daughter.

She thinks my daughter just is cuter and smarter than me and better. And so you've been here how long? Oh, my God. It's too long. I still don't speak English. I feel embarrassed. Your English is excellent. The accent is a little heavy.

Yeah, it's heavy. Your accent is perfect. 2009, I came to America. I went to Kentucky. You don't have a Southern accent, accent is a little heavy. Yeah, it's heavy. Your accent is perfect. Your English is perfect. I came to America. I went to Kentucky. You don't have a southern accent, which is, thank God. I don't have one. Yeah. So you came into Kentucky.

How did you guys end up there? I applied for a lot of schools. I wanted to leave my mom. I mean, I didn't care. I'd rather go to Kentucky than being with my mom. So you were just fleeing China, fleeing your mom. I need to leave her. Yeah.

So I decided that wherever, they'll take me. Yeah. And what were you doing in China at the time? Just high school kind of thing? I did high school. I was learning English. I wanted to be doing acting,

but I couldn't get in any of the school plays because they won't let me play the girls. They were just like, you can't play Alice in Wonderland. Why can't you play a girl? Because the girls are pretty. And I have, I'm just too much. I think Chinese culture wants girls to be like shy and pale, like light skin and just like really shy.

So you... Like shy. I'm just like, I want to be the fucking queen. And they were like, somebody lock her up. So talking about vaginas and fucking chicks up and stuff. Yeah. Not the thing in China. Yeah, they would slap me.

They would slap you? Yeah. Other girls would slap you or your mom would slap you? My mom. And it's hard in China because they won't let us date in high school. Why? I never had a boyfriend. Who determines whether you can date or not?

When you are talking to a boy in private, the teacher is going to call your mom and tell them that you are a whore. So I got called doing homework with one of my classmates. My mom, she came to school. She beat me up. She's like, I can't believe I raised a whore.

And then I didn't even have my first kiss. So, and then when I was 25, I was single. She's like, why can't you be a whore and seduce a man? What's your problem? Why are you so single? And that was after college, right? Yes. So she just expects you to not talk to a boy. Did you go to graduate school after that?

I went to, I didn't go. I just didn't waste any money because renting a house is expensive. I just came here directly from Kentucky. Why here? Hollywood? Acting again? Yes. I started theater on the side,

but I didn't want to be a starving artist, so I started a business. I came to LA and I wanted to find a good job where I can learn

acting to do really good training. So the idea was a day job so you could support your passion. Yes. Which is what happened, right?

I did well. If I'm in business, I'll be so much better. And happier? Happier than being a comedian? I wouldn't think happier because you can't talk shit about people and still work if you work a normal job. I suppose not. Yeah. You got to be careful.

And then even like, even you are the boss, you can't do it. It's really sad. America has freedom. I don't think. Well, it's not the same kind of freedom you're used to be careful. And then even like, even you are the boss, you can't do it. It's really sad. America has freedom. I don't think. It was not the same kind of freedom you're used to on stage. Who do you, who do you talk,

who do you like talking shit about most in your act? I think whoever is being a hypocrite, I can't, I can't stand them. There's a lot of those these days, right? I just can't.

I just, I prefer, I don't care you are corrupt. I want you to be honest about it. That's why I like the Kardashians. You know, they just, they are honest.

They love money. They love big They're honest, they love money, they love big black dicks, and they love all the good things in life and they fucking chase it and then they get it and people hate them, but they are honest about it. But then somebody else they say they love people, they care about things, but they just don't. Who are you thinking of when you say that? Meghan Markle. Okay, So Meghan Markle bugs you. I had a dream we were with the Kardashians last night. That we were with them?

Yeah. It's so weird. That's funny. Now, I think in your act, you said, I think I picked this up, that you said your name is hard to pronounce. We can just call you Stacey. Stacey or like Joanna or like annoying. My iPhone just turned into annoying.

Every time I type my name, my iPhone goes annoying. It says annoying. Yeah. Stacy or Joanna or Joanna? Joanna. Joanna. People call me Joanna, I don't know why.

Joanna is harder than. But not for us. Yeah, for you guys it's easier. And I could see how they could see the J and the A jumping out and just go Joanna, Joanna. It must be see how they could see the J and the A jumping out and just go, oh, Joanna, Joanna. It must be misspelled.

The phone must be doing something. Word check must be doing something wrong. Do you get insulted when people call you Stacey or Joanna? Stacey's somehow a lot funnier, I got to say. I think my Kentucky name would be Stacey. Yeah, it would be. Because the cousin is a good pussy. You never...

I never... You do talk a lot of shit, but I never hear your sort of inner dialogue on this country and your sort of secret thoughts about... I'd love your insights into... Go ahead. Like what do you think of us?

I think American people, you guys are so spoiled, you bitch about little bullshit and you should relax. Because you guys are so spoiled with you bitch about a little bullshit and you should relax. Because your guys are so spoiled with all of the freedom, good things you have in life and you still bitch about

a little bullshit. Give me an example. I have this friend, she was a college friend. She was just very fragile and she said her mom messed her up and she really hate her mom and she has this big problem. She go to therapy to repair it i think therapy is good but she's like my mom um she's a bitch she did not come to my

ballet recital twice right right i just i'm like are you kidding me because you you have fat ankle you are a bad ballerina were you good like did you win like are you a ballerina now she's like no but i said don't butt me if you were good your mom will be there you are not the number one you know if you're number one she'll be there you should refund her the now? She's like, no, but don't bet me. If you are good, your mom will be there. You are not the number one. If you are number one, she will be there. You should refund her the money. It's expensive. Body class is very expensive.

Why are you crying about it? Because you are a loser. I would never, I don't believe she won't be there if you're the number one. She's like, I wasn't number one. I was close. No, no, that's just,

you failed. That's okay. And then she's like, wow, you're so perfect. How's your mom? I'm like, my mom took me back from the dumpster even though my penis was close. No, no, that's just, you failed. That's okay. And then she's like, wow, you're so perfect. How's your mom? I'm like, my mom took me back from the dumpster, even though my penis was missing. I don't want to brag, but you know, I'm very privileged.

And so- I just, that's why I'm like, why are you complaining? You are not the best. Why would you expect your mom to be there? She's working. Well, and so- So you can pay for your classes. And so the sort of victim,

we've sort of perfected being victims in this country, haven't we? Yes. And you've often said to me, Dr. Drew, why am I so fucked up? Yeah. But you really don't want to know. You never go further than that.

It's always just- I know I'm messed up and I'm honest about it. Some people are like, I'm perfect. I'm just like, I'm not. I'm a piece of shit and something is wrong. And I'm guessing it affects you most in your relationships, like romantic relationships? It does too, it does.

That's where this kind of stuff sort of surfaces. Yes, I attract narcissists. Ah, interesting. And your ex-husband, no exception, I imagine? I think so, he's- Not to talk shit about him. Yeah, he's handsome, rich, kind on the paper. Like he does charity.

So people don't know he's evil. He's so nice to me at beginning. And I just try to brag about he doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, and he's not gay. There's nothing wrong about him. I mean, being gay is okay. But being gay and being married to a woman is not okay. Right.

For a woman, you know. We watched Maestro last night. So I just thought he was perfect. Then I find out he's a psycho. And then after we divorced, I realized, I always knew he's an engineer, but after we got divorced, I realized he's a mechanic. I mean, he's actually also an electrical engineer. That's why he's so good with gaslighting.

Ah, so he's sort of a manipulative, he can manipulate emotional systems as well as mechanical systems. Yes, yeah. And the way he has sort of left your kids sort of abandoned is troubling. Yes. That I don't dig. He want to punish me.

He want me to, the old me would feel guilty because I choose divorce, now they don't have a father. But the new me, that post-Dr. Ju Susan me, I'll be like, no, no, no, it's your fault. Obama was fine, he has no dad. So I don't feel guilty. I can be the dad and the mom. So you're raising the first Chinese American president? I hope so.

I mean, my son needed double eyelid surgery, so doesn't have to be Chinese, so they accept him. Let's go all the way. Let's go. That's the first Chinese American female president. Let's really, let's go. She has to go to poly. She has to go to private school here. She wants to go to the schools that our kids went to. She needs to at least go to poly. That's in fact why

Joanna's here today. She wants to sort of start the groundwork. All right, Joanna. We'll get started. Yeah. I should change my name to Joanna so people understand. I'm also a Christian. I believe in Jesus Christ, our savior, the Lord. Yes. We're not diverse enough. What is the religious situation in China now?

Because there was a lot of Confucianism at one time, right? And then there was Taoism and there was- Religion is not- Not a thing. Encouraged in China. Right. But you can be any religion. People like you be. Yeah, just I think my grandmother was

I think she believed in Buddha. Yeah, there's a lot of Buddhism. Yeah, Buddhism. And I believe in I believe in karma. Karma. Because you wanted to shit tap your ex-husband, right? Yes, I believe in karma.

That's very important for you. I just really believe in respect other people's religion. I am really against trying to convert people when they don't want to believe in you. Then you get pissed off and start lying to them about bullshit. Give me an example.

So when I was in Kentucky, this girl, I'm not saying her religion because I want to be alive. So she said that God loves know, God loves everybody. He loves all of us. And that's why he gave you this beautiful nose. Your nose. Yes.

So I said, do you think God loves everybody? She goes, yes. I said, but what would God give you that nose? Then she was like, oh my God. I said, I don't think God loves you you i think you should find a new god

and then we never talk again and she was like i can see there's there's doubts in her eyes from since she talked to me she doubts her her religious faith i think so you you added a sprinkling of reality yeah she's like i i don't like my nose but i think i should accept it so so when did you start speaking of accepting when did you start seeing yourself as not ugly and as an attractive female? I try to love myself, but I don't want to love myself too much. We haven't gotten there yet.

We're way off that. Yeah. I think for some moments, I think I'm kind of cute after the filters and Photoshop's and I'm like, huh. But when did you start to come into your own? I mean, like when you,

I'm guessing you pursued your husband. Like he fit a model that your mom would be happy with. When we met, he asked me out and he was very low key. He was very nice. And then he wanted to date me and I pretend I don't because I want to trap him. So I said, oh, I don't know.

So then I'm just like, wait until we have sex for a long time. And it was a whole game. So he know I'm marriage material. Then I just, I want to trap him before he wants to trap me. I see. So you got him.

Yeah, I got him. And that was- Mistake. It's a huge mistake. Huge mistake. Huge. Really? I mean, you got your kids

and what is your career now and stuff? The kids are cute. I mean, my son's really great. My daughter, yeah, you know, it comes with her. Susan, do you have any questions for Stacey? I've never seen her laugh so much during an interview that I've done.

I don't want to get on your bad side. It's okay. It's okay. I think it would take a while. I like that I'm not a mother to reason. I don't want to be people saying, try to protect my image. I don't have an image.

But I love how straightforward she is and her comebacks are amazing. Oh, they're fast. I always try to tell my daughter to have good comebacks. She is the quickest person I've probably ever met, I would say. It's almost like you're reading people's mind and generating your response before we say it. They're laughing on Rumble too. Nice. And she was on with me and Adam. That's where I first

met Zhao Ying. Let me have my camera here. And Adam and I have a podcast, it's Adam and Dr. Drew Show. And somebody booked Zhao Ying and I go, who is this? What? And she's there talking about magic vaginas and things and I'm like, who is this woman? What was that you were talking about? What caught my attention? Magic vagina? Yeah.

I don't remember, but I was probably talking about, I didn't know after you have baby, your vagina snap back. If I knew that, I would have a lot of baby to trap rich man. I didn't know after you have baby, your vagina snap back. If I knew that, I would have a lot of baby to trap rich man. I did not know that. Why would a lot of baby, you'd have them with rich man? Yeah, I have a lot of opportunities that I don't want a baby to ruin my life. But now I'm older, I understand just trap the man, get the man and get the fuck out. But now I know that I can tell young woman just do it. But when I was younger, I had something

that's a disease. I had a dignity. Don't do it. You have to pay for it. Yeah, I had dignity. I don't think I've ever heard Caleb laugh like that. Never. No more dignity. Young woman, use your look.

It will go away. So you've devolved into sort of Machiavellianism? Is that how you describe it? Now I don't have any dignity, but I'm a female comedian in my mid-30s. No man want to talk to me. No one want to fuck me. So it's too late.

That has to be bullshit. You're doing that if that's happening. I feel that way, but I can be the fairy godmother to all the young women needing advice. That's true. I'll just tell them, honey, yes, you can, and you should fuck your way to the top.

You should do it, yeah. That was the magic vagina thing. You were sort of advocating that. I did not know that. You, like, yeah, if you eat healthy and you hate yourself- You hate yourself. Your vagina will snap back. But if you love yourself, you keep eating, uh-uh.

So, yeah, vaginas handle essentially a small bowling ball and then bounce back. I did not know that, Dr. Ju. Nobody told me that. Yeah, yeah. What did you imagine? I thought it's just gonna open and then that's unhappiness opens up with the kiss

and that's all your life should be. I didn't know it snapped back. So it's sort of like everything prolapses. You'll just get things falling out at a certain point. Women's really powerful. Women are very powerful. Yeah. Yeah, that is true.

So tell me more about that, about women's power, because I don't think, it's odd to me. So this is kind of interesting terrain because women treat each other like shit starting around age 12. Yes. Which I find concerning because you should be empowering or at least supporting each other. But you do the opposite generally. Yes.

Except when you don't. When you don't, you're very supportive and it's good. But for the most part, your instinct is kind of knock each other down, right? Yes. Women hate each other. I think we were bred to hate each other. Is it bred or is it something genetically? Genetically, and then the society influences you to hate each other.

So it's easy for men to control women when they are hating each other. Is it that or is it that they have this, frankly, delusion that's no longer the case in China, that males are a limited resource that they have to compete for? Yes, I think so. I think it's just coded for women. Maybe the think so. I think it's just encoded. But you can fight against it, though. Why don't we encourage women to fight against that? I feel like because it's so hard for a woman to rise.

When you rise up, it's so hard. And you try to empower other women. And you try, but they end up not grateful. And then they end up taking your husband. You're like, you know what? Fuck all of you. I'm just going to. Did somebody take your husband?

I wish. Somebody took him. So I couldn't. Yeah, no, nobody took him because. He didn't remarry. I don't think he did. His passion is to torture me. That's what he wanted in life.

He didn't like to cheat because that's not as pleasurable as making my life miserable. So he could claim being virtuous and go at you. Exactly. He never cheats. He doesn't smoke, doesn't drink.

She's the bitch. Look, I am perfect. This woman, this Stacey lady is just a problem. Yes, Stacey lady is just a problem. Yes, Stacey from Kentucky is a problem. How did he, and he's from? Shanghai. Chinese man.

Stay away, ladies. And he went back to Shanghai? I don't know. I hope so. You don't even know? I don't know. I try to keep my distance. If I need something, I'll email the lawyer to find out what's going on.

Because if you are not giving me money, I don't think we should be talking. Right, right. Let's be practical here. And so let's go back to dignity and your life as a comedian. It's good not to have dignity as a comedian, right? I think so. I think dignity is not good for people. It's not funny.

It's not good for you. It's the source of all pain. Source of all pain? Yeah. What's that source of all pain. Source of all pain. Yeah. What's that, Susan? I know I'm going to. Is Brad there? I was sort of giving Brad

a chance to come in before. I think so. Caleb, Brad is ready after the break. Okay. Nice. So I'll take Stacy off the hot seat in a second.

But before I do, before I do, how has your life as a comedian made you feel have you been how has that been for you i think i am liberated as a woman as a mom as a daughter as a human as a dumpster baby as a comedian i think it gave me the vessel to be myself when was it comedy normally like has a moment where it hits you. Like I'm going to do that. Do you remember that moment? I remember being told to do comedy by John Singleton, but it didn't click.

He saw something in me that I don't know about. Were you acting? Were you doing comedic acting? I auditioned for him for Rebel and he asked me to improv and I just started saying funny things and he just started laughing so hard, way too hard. Like the black laugh, you know, like there's something going on.

He's like literally laughing. He's nobody's pain point to that so i i knew he was laughing i remember yeah i always been funny because i want attention i wasn't pretty so i'm always funny my whole life trying to get attention then he asked me to do open mics and i start doing it john singleton yeah he got my phone number tried to push me to do it he just saw something wow he said you're gonna be a star if you do stand-up. I said, do I have the job now? He said, no. I don't understand a word you said.

Did he advise you to work on your accent or just go do comedy? He said, it's not going to happen. Just be funny. Because he's right that your accent works in the comedy. Yeah, he's like, just don't worry about your accent. You're not going to fix it. But if you got funny, your accent become a plus. And so you started doing open mic?

Yeah, and I didn't see the magic. I don't feel like I'm, what a drunk single didn't see. I never saw it. Were the audiences reacting positively or did you have to really grind it out to get the positive? Very grind out.

At the beginning, I think I have to overcome my accent and how to hold a mic, how to be, not be shy and stupid. Where did you do open mic? Shitholes in Koreatown, little bars in downtown. Los Angeles, you did it here. Yeah, I started in LA. Which is not the usual and stupid. Where did you do open mic? Shitholes in Koreatown, little bars in downtown.

Los Angeles, you did it here. Yeah, I started in LA. Which is not the usual open mic spots. Yes, I knew I sucked. And then I decided to buy a club right away. I bought a club right away

so I can do 10 hours a day. I sucked a lot in the 10 hours a day thing, but it helps you to get the sucking out because you can be on stage every hour, every hour. I keep doing it.

Which club is yours? It's a Hollywood comedy on Melrose. But I don't go there. I don't stand outside because whenever I'm there, people won't get their nails done. They don't understand it's a club. So I just avoid confusion. Is it still there?

It's going strong. Every day we have 10 hours open mic. We have shows. The moment I knew I have it is that the showcase Iends we have shows. The moment I knew I have it is at the showcase I did for Love Factory. The moment I became a paid regular at Love Factory. I remember I stand outside Love Factory on Tuesdays for the audition. I stand there at 1 p.m. for five hours.

I would have a long chair waiting there for five hours to do the audition mic for a year. I never got a call back. Then I start paying people 50 bucks to stand in line for me. I show up at five. Nice, nice. And still I had nothing.

So I remember I got the showcase audition. Like the search of funniest female comedian. I remember I'm like, fuck it. They won't like me. I'm gonna, I don't give a fuck. Where was this? Where? At Laugh Factory.

Laugh Factory. I remember I went on stage. That's when I knew I have it. I didn't give a fuck. I did my set. I walked the's when I knew I have it. I didn't give a fuck. I did my set. I walked the fuck out. Was that the first time you didn't give a shit when you went up on stage? Totally don't give a shit and be like, nobody likes me and I don't give a fuck.

I'm going to go up there and if I offend them, I don't give a fuck. If they don't understand my English, I don't give a fuck. Have you been able to maintain that attitude? Yes. After that, I got it. It's like I was chosen at that moment. I knew I was somebody and then I became it. It's like I was chosen at that moment. I just, I knew I was somebody. And then I became somebody.

People were laughing. The reaction was just crazy. And then the manager walked after me. He said, hey, do you want a spot on Thursday? It's the open mic spot. He's like, there's no open mic. It's a show. Then I got passed.

Then I became a regular at Laugh Factory. That's my first club that verified me. That's the one that puts you up on the marquee, right? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. So that's when I knew I have it. And I just never lost it because I had the confidence. And did you continue your day job at that point? Were you still doing business? I don't do day job. I think I stopped my, the problem is that do not give up your day job after you marry a rich guy who is not gay, who is, doesn't smoke and drink.

So after I married him, because he's so rich that didn't make any sense for me to work anymore, but I was okay. I was good making really good money. So I just stopped working and that's big. And then he started controlling me because he gave me a lot of money we spent, but then I realized that I have to ask him for money or like it's his money. I can even it's like our account so actually um i never i mean since like 2018 i don't i don't work anymore and when did he leave i think we um two years ago two year and a half ago is when we separated okay and when was that day at the comedy store the laugh factory the laugh factory that was actually we were already separated. So it was also about two years ago. Yes. And everything happened.

But you were doing all, you were buying the club and all that stuff. Did he support that? No, he was making fun of me. Was he angry with it, making fun of you? Yes. He's like, you're ugly. That doesn't mean you can do comedy. I'm like, that's what my mom said. Like, are you kidding me? You should hang out. So he just, he did invest movie for me in China,

but he wanted to make sure that he made it happen. But the comedy thing, like I'm doing my stuff with Open Max and I'm not going anywhere, but he's not doing anything for me. So he didn't want me to do anything without his influence. He wanted the ring maker.

So wild. Yeah, he's okay with me being an actress as long as he's financing the film. And you've got something coming up in China, right? Yeah. Can you talk about it? up in China, right? Yeah. Can you talk about it? I think it's a huge show that I'm gonna be in it. So it's really great because people,

like not a lot of girls like me on camera. You keep saying that, what does that mean? Because they, like when you see the K-pop, they all like the bleached asshole, skinny little. They all have bleached assholes? I don't see their assholes usually, but. Or like the dark, thick bitches mopping the floor like me in the back. But if you.

So your skin color isn't right. Yeah, and also I have big jaw. And I just, I refuse to be like, oh, let me make my jaw smaller so I can be pretty. I just like, I'm like, I think I'm pretty. They were like, they were vomiting. So I think. I don't think so.

I think now, like when I was on Cosmo, I was on Cosmopolitan China, and they liked all my dark skin and my jaw, and my skin was dark. They didn't do any color correct. They were like, you know what? I want girls your skin color to feel happy and to look. So there's a kind of a progressivism in China.

It's very, yeah, it's happening. It's happening. It's really good. All right. And it's all about Stacey. All right. So get a all about Stacey. All right. So get a picture on Stacey again because she was mugging for the camera for you.

Yes. I'm wearing a Chinese dress. I don't want you to confuse me and Brad. Okay. So speaking of Brad. You're pretty on Rumble, apparently. We're going to take a quick little break here and we're going to bring the great Brad Williams in here.

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All right. Welcome back, everybody. Zhao Ying, I did not give your Instagram all the stuff. Why don't we do that? Give them all the particulars where they can find you. Jiao Ying Summers. J-I-A-O-Y-I-N-G S-U-M-M-E-R-S You can go buy tickets for my shows at summerscomedy.com. Is Summers a translation of something? Yeah, translation of my ex-husband's last name, Xia. Xia means summer.

Interesting. I was just guessing that. Alright, let's bring the great Brad Williams in here now. Brad, welcome. Hey, buddy. Hello, sir. Good to see you. Good to see you, John. I did not know that you guys knew each other, but during the break, we just call her Stacy or Joanna if I stumble over her name.

That Stacy knew you and you guys have been at the Laugh Factory together. And Brad, give your stuff. Where do you want people to find you? Website, everything? Sure. BradWilliamsComedy. you? Website, everything? Sure. BradWilliamsComedy.com. That's for all the dates. And then if you want to stream my brand new special, Starfish, that is out today.

Literally today it is out. It is on the platform Veeps. Go to Veeps.com slash Brad Williams. It came out today, Dr. Drew, because today is December 21st, the winter solstice, the shortest day of the year. Marketing! Well done, my friend. Well done. And starfish, not because you regrow your limbs, right?

No, and not because I'm a huge fan of Limp Bizkit's album, Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water. I totally forgot about that when I named the special. And now everyone thinks that I'm talking about an anus, but I'm not. I'm more just talking about starfish is what I do when the wife and I have a little bit of a fight and she makes me sleep on the couch. And then I just starfish on the couch because a couch is still a king size bed for me i i i've seen and i've seen uh brad do uh what are they not the what are those called cartwheels on the stage and you look kind of like a starfish at that point too yes i'm i i'm almost 40 now dr drew i don't know if I can still do the cartwheels. I got to go for a little bit of physical therapy if I got to do that. But yes, I understand. It's an exciting time right now.

And look at you. Look at you being so progressive with a Chinese woman and a dwarf. This is great. And now all I got to do is get my kid on the broadcast because my wife is Chinese so we have an Asian dwarf baby. Oh, see, Zhao Ying was being racist against your wife. She said she was some other Asian ethnicity. Yeah, I saw that your wife was Japanese. No, no, that, no. She is Chinese.

She's half Chinese, half deadbeat dad. What's deadbeat dad? Deadbeat dad. Oh, be careful with the starfish um on your on your couch because your wife put some wasabi to eat you i mean it is it is true that the diet i thought i knew what chinese food was i thought i knew what chinese food was but i'm white as hell. I'm from Orange County, California. I thought Panda Express was authentic.

Turns out, not so much. Now my wife is introducing me to a lot of great, wonderful Chinese food. I love the soup-filled dumplings. Those are my absolute favorites. And then I introduced her to the food of my people uh kiebler kiebler elves and uh and susan i told you that uh panda panda express or panda uh was mexican food that's just confirmed that yeah if they ask hire us as a spokesperson i will make sure i mark the elephant did you brad did were you listening before we went on a little break there as a spokesperson, I will make sure I mark the shit out of it. Did you,

Brad, were you listening before we went on a little break there, Zhao Ying's sort of origin story and the effort and the drive and all the stuff

she put out to create this comedy career she has. You worked awfully hard too and you have a similar, not a similar, but you have your own kind of wild origin story about

being funny tell tell it if you don't mind do you know the story about him and his dad i i feel like i can't yeah i i feel like i can't compete with being thrown into a dumpster uh i did not crawl out of a dumpster i don't think i'd be able to very small list uh so you you win there stacy joanne jay you win about that but um the thing is is pretty much all comedians have some sort of villain origin story we all have something uh mine was i was in the audience of a stand-up comedy show the comedian on stage was making midget jokes half the audience was laughing and the other half was like like just uh not laughing and the comedian said what is one of them here and i just raised my creepy little hand in the air and it's like yeah and uh he called me up on stage and started asking me questions i answered the questions honestly.

My answers got laughs, and that's when I decided to be a comedian. I remember he asked me what I did for a living. And at the time, because I grew up in Orange County, California, and as all kids in Orange County have to do at some point, I was working at Disneyland. And I announced that. The audience laughed. And then I turned to them and said,

Fuck you, I'm not one of the seven uh and now and that was that was the adrenaline i needed and uh now uh 20 years later uh just as i had predicted i would have a stand-up comedy special streaming on a brand new platform called beeps called it and and your dad figured large into some of that origin right because it's it's jimmy's mom figured loud into hers as her whole career is fuck you mom uh your dad kind of set you up that way too yeah mine's not a fuck you dad mine is more i'm proving him right uh because uh uh here's the thing my dad not a dwarf he said but hang on now he set you up for fuck you dad that's what that's how that's what he was setting up think about it well kind of you you've you've turned it into a positive but he was he must some people could in today's world you would have been a victim you know but no not not okay go ahead dad was a visionary here's what he did my dad knew because he's average size uh my dad is not a dwarf we don't all come from the same tribe uh you know

you can't drive down the street and be like oh which house do all the dwarves live in you're right it's the mushroom with the door in it, that, that's not something that you can do. My dad, not being a little person, but he had the wherewithal to understand and know that I would be bullied in school. He knew I would be. So to be, so to prepare me for that, he bullied me first. He would constantly make fun of me, but he would encourage me to hit him back with something and together him and i would actually write comebacks to insults so that when i got to school and kids thought that they were being clever i would have something to say to him and kids learned real fast don't make fun of brad he'll make you cry and xiao ying you you you could

you'd sort of what your mom was doing right this is, you didn't really think of it this way. Yeah, my mom got me right. She's like, you can't wear pink. People are going to make fun of you in school. By the way, also, Brad, does your Chinese wife know you are not a Bradley William Pitt? Does she know that? She's aware. She's aware.

Okay, good. I just can't. Her eyes are probably small, so I just want to make sure she knows. Yeah, every time you type my name into Google Images, Okay, good. I just can't. Her eyes are probably small, so I just want to make sure she knows. Yeah. Every time you type my name into Google Images, she is well aware that him and I are very different. Okay. I'm just going to make sure she knows. And you guys had similar heritage at the Laugh Factory, I guess, which I did not realize, which is so fun. That both you guys are, I consider friends and

I did not know you have that kind of origin together. Bread is always explosive on stage. I've never seen bread not giving 100%. There's some comedian, they are funny, but sometimes you're just like, not their day, but every day is Brad's day. Yeah. Every fucking day is, I just always 100% giving to them. I love it.

Yeah, extraordinary. And, but you do the same thing. Yeah, I do because like, you know, people only remember the worst performance you ever had. But is that from all those years of working so hard at the open mic and stuff? I think so. I have so much stage time that all the bombing I do,

because I have a club, I go there every day. So when I'm on stage- You still do it, you still do it? No, no. I still do it. Every day? Last night, I did two shows. Wow. And then I went to the club to see other people,

to see the open micers, to make fun of them. So I went on stage and- Have you ever seen the Kill Tony thing? Yes, I was in Austin a few weeks ago, and a long time, I think I got on Kill Tony once when I was in Austin. As the open mic-er or as somebody doing the- They gave me like a special guest, but I wasn't big enough to be a host two years ago. But maybe you could start a whole Kill Tony type thing out here where you make fun of all the open mic-ers.

Or like being a Chinese and steal the people's idea and make money from it. I love that. Your version. Yeah, I'm so excited now. Oh my goodness. So Brad, I want to see that, by the way. I want to see her roast open micers.

I don't think a lot of them would keep doing comedy after she got done with them. Yeah, you should roast them too, Brad. Yeah, I've actually been a judge. She would make people cry. Yeah, I've been a judge on Kill Tony.

And I'll say nothing breaks the spirit of a young comedian seeing someone half their size telling them exactly what they're doing wrong and then being better than them. And what's going on these days with you throw the dwarf and midget terms around freely.

Are we allowed to use that? Are you still getting shit for that? What's going on there? As far as I'm concerned, you're allowed to say it. For me, it's all about context. I'll tell you this story, Dr. Drew. One time I was doing a show in Odessa, Texas. Jealous?

Of course you are. And I was doing a show there and there was a heckler that uh during the show that we had a back and forth eventually had to throw him out and the show ends i'm going back to the car to drive me back to the hotel and we see lights turn on in the parking lot from a pickup truck and this truck starts racing towards us and a guy leans out the truck and yells out kill the dwarf now in that scenario i did not stop and be like well thank you for using the proper nomenclature that's wonderful how progressive no it wasn't the dwarf part that offended me it was the kill the that i had the problem yeah so me yes i can understand that me personally i i look at the

context how are you using it how how how are you saying it and if your intention's good i don't care but in general in general um the word dwarf good little person great midget not so much don't care. But in general, in general, the word dwarf, good, little person, great, midget, not so much. Don't use that one. Oh, oh, that's a change because you used to lean into the M word. I did. And I still do because it's kind of like my word. But, you know, I'm allowed to say it. Well, hang on. The dog's farting here. Yes.

Yes. He's like really killing it. Where to hang on the dog's farting here yes yes he's like really killing it where is he the dog is farting it's a this dog is in love with zhao ying but he's licking my knees he got very excited either somebody's shit in here or the dog just farted yeah oh it's bad it's bad you say the dog is farting i thought that was like code for we've got to get one of these comedians out of here i thought that i thought that was like the duck flies at midnight the dog farts in the studio like that's what i thought that william's guy's bombing get rid of him yeah so i just want to let you guys know that i noticed that restream has picked up x so we can

see your comments on twitter now oh yeah so yeah that's pretty cool yeah it's a new feature i'm hooray hooray that's nice now we can see her and is rumble surviving i i was watching my rumble feed for a second and some weird disclaimer came up about donald trump or something it was very odd i don't know anyway i don't know if you guys saw that i don't know it was yeah it's all donald trump's fault again we gotta get back on the ballot in colorado unfortunate things happening in colorado they're a mile high but their heads in the clouds. I'm not on the ballot. Very unfortunate, Colorado. Very unfortunate. Do you do imitations, Xiaoyang? Do you do any?

I just, I don't do. I just do my mom. I don't have talents with accent in English, but I can do Chinese accents, but nobody cares. I noticed you're pretty good at that. So, a couple things i want to get into first of all i want to wish everyone happy holidays one of the reasons we're having a little levity here is it is holiday season and christmas is coming up as we uh stream this show

it's coming up in a couple of days uh new year holidays yeah dr drew sorry christmas in a couple of days sorry man i'll meet you be right back me too i'm making toys too me and my daughter that's really so cute don't worry uh i've got the trains uh you get the iphones we'll be good done oh i like that i like that. I like that. Zhao Ying in one of those white, like, sterile outfits. I can see it now. Yes. I'm making all the iPhones.

I have all the chips in there. I can supervise you, you know. How is married life? I don't think I've even been in your presence since we were at your wedding. That was a long time ago. Yeah. Oh, no. Well, we've hung out.

We've done shows together but uh yeah married i'm sorry what person together can't have we been in person together i feel like we've done some like on the phone and on the streams and things but anyway how's married life married life is great uh you could tell it's going well because i'm doing this show from a small office that is designated my space in the house. The rest of the space would be my wife's but hey, she gave

me this nice little corner and as a dwarf, I can still get plenty of space. I don't take up a lot. I don't need a lot. It's fine. Yeah, you fit there just fine. She put you in a bamboo closet. Is that bamboo? This is actually

a soundproof material, so I can talk smack about my wife and she will never hear it outside of this. Yeah, we have some of it over in one of the others. Susan is creating a whole environment here where we can do different shots, And so one day

we will move around the room. Should come in sometime. Yeah. Are you guys still in Orange County? Is that where you're living? No. We moved but we're still in Southern California. So yeah, I would love to come into the studio sometime. Today just didn't

work because I'm doing a ton of press because like I said earlier, my special Starfish is out today. So I've been appearing on shows all day from the comfort of my own home. Now, the other thing I wanted to get into was, I know Zhao Ying is a big

Friends fan, so I saved my Matthew Perry commentary for you, Stacey. And that is, you guys have any questions about what took poor Matt Perry out? Did you read about that?

I read about it. Sorry. I imagine what took him out was the water. You know, that is the final pathway. Yes. Much like Whitney Houston and Whitney Houston's daughter. Everybody took too much sedating medication. And can you get some water for Jackie, maybe?

Oh, yes. No, don't give her water. Look what it did to Matthew Perry. I know. I was just thinking there was a great juxtaposition there. Maybe that's how my brain works. You say the word water. I must get that for the guest.

Yes. In any event, he there's all this consternation about the ketamine. Ketamine does not make you stop breathing. We use ketamine in huge amounts in emergency rooms with particularly young adults and adolescents because it doesn't stop breathing. You can use, and it's

a dissociative anesthetic. You can use a large amount and make them kind of away from the experience and they don't stop breathing. The problem here, he was also on buprenorphine, which is a powerful opioid, and he was on Ativan and Klonopin. Klonopin, I don't know if it still does, but for a long time had a black box warning with buprenorphine. You're not supposed to take those two together. Taking two benzodiazepines makes zero sense, especially in the setting of addiction, especially on buprenorphine.

And then you add the ketamine in and somebody's going to fall asleep. But what suppresses the breathing is actually the buprenorphine and the ketamine the klonopin and uh it was enough to make him not jump out of the water when he came when he fell asleep and fell in but don't make my my position is ketamine yeah it's odd that he got his hands on a lot of ketamine yes he shouldn't have been abusing it i don't like ketamine infusions for people with addiction i've seen it trigger them but it's not directly what killed him. I feel very strongly about it. So anyway, that's your friend. But was that when you learned English with friends? Yes.

Yes, I learned English watching friends. I'm sorry about that. And Brad, what were you going to say? No, I'm just saying I have friends that have used ketamine as an antidepressant. Is that true? Yeah, you can do it. That's what he was getting.

It's hard to know whether he was getting that or getting these guided therapies that people get under ketamine infusion sometimes. That's more sort of controversial. And then the ketamine infusions for depression, it's a series of six typically for people that have recalcitrant depression. But again, in the setting of addiction, it can trigger the addiction. So that's been my experience at least.

So there you go. But what did you think of this country when you're watching Friends? Are you here then? Or are you in China? I was in China watching Friends. I just feel like, damn, they are lazy. Nobody's working, just talking and just chatting

and just like all day, just talking. Who is paying for shit? Who is paying for the apartment? I was just calculating. I'm like, no, there's no way. That's exactly right. And that's brilliant. And so what did you think?

Like, I got to be a part of this? I got to go visit this place where people don't have to work? I want Rachel's outfits. I want ripped her outfit from her. I want all her outfits. I see. So it was the fashion that got you into the thing. I just, I have an idea.

Like I, not to judge, I have a drinking problem. I had one, I'm sober, seven months sober. So I understand. Thank you, Dr. Ju. I understand addiction. I'm not trying to judge from a high horse. My father was an alcoholic. The only reason he's not disappointed in me

is because he's not sober. He doesn't know I'm a loser. He's, so I'm a loser. So I don't believe in cocaine and opium. You don't believe in it? I just feel people should not be doing it. Yes, that's a good idea not to do it. I know you do it to feel better, but you should not feel better.

You are a piece of shit. If you feel like Michael Jackson, somebody's lying to you. It's not like just... Yeah, if you feel bad, sit in. So hold on. So hang on, because this is not the way I'm trained to think, and yet I kind of dig it. Hang on.

No, I dig it. You're saying if you feel like a piece of shit, lean into it. Yes. Ask yourself why. Lean into your shittiness. Yeah, because you don't have a job. You're ugly, and people hate you. Go to the gym and find a job and just like move, move.

Water is human, human are like water in Chinese. You don't move, you become stinky. It's because you're a loser. How do you say that in Chinese? Humans like water? Like, 净水生流, it's like water should be flowing inside. If it's not flowing, it's going to become stinky.

So if you are lazy, you know, it's your fault. Don't do drugs. Xing, say it again. Okay. Like I always say.

Yeah. If you want, if you, if you take some drug, you feel like a Michael Jackson, big mistake. You should not be feeling like a Jackson because you are a loser.

Also, Michael Jackson don't feel good even though he's Michael Jackson. So the drug don't make you happier. That's absolutely true. And, but there's, there's a deep wisdom of what you you're saying which is see reality assess yourself

realistically and see reality on reality's terms and if you don't like it change it yeah sit outside in a lawn chair outside the comedy factory yeah for months at a time until they listen to you yes they may never will but it's okay it's okay because that is one factor and and if you're feeling depressed because you are ugly and and and you're living in los angeles or new york denver austin miami if you're living in one of those cities just move move to a place with far less people you will feel way prettier i've been to almost every darn city across this country. There are places you can go that, man, if you're an LA-7, you will be a North Dakota-10, okay? You will feel good about yourself.

Yes, it's 5 o'clock somewhere. You are hot somewhere. And not only that, but you'll feel more successful with having packed your bags and moved because cost of living is vastly different. Vastly different. Were you guys, as you guys, are you doing a lot of traveling around the country, Xiaoyang? Yes, I travel a lot. Okay.

And so as you see the country, if you were 19 years old or 25 years old or something, and you were looking for a place to get started that was a lovely place that was reasonable living expenses. To start it is acting? No, no, just not, because you've got to kind of be in an urban center for that kind of thing. But just, you're just a young person starting out and you can't stand the cost of living and you're looking for a nice place to live.

Yes. If I believe in happiness, I would have stayed in like a really like a nice little town in a green area of Kentucky, a blue area like Lexington, where the gays and lesbians are welcome. Okay, Lexington. Yeah. Brad, how about you? Yeah, kind of similarly, my favorite place in the world are blue cities in the middle of red states because I feel like that's a good balance. So if you can find...

Yeah, Austin's great. Nashville, denver all those cities are awesome because they're like these little blue hubs in the middle of red states so you don't get too far either way and uh yeah cost of living is way less than uh california but to be fair all the uh all the uh refugees from the blue big cities are going to end up in the red places. And so almost no matter where you go, it's going to get more purpley. I always thought North Carolina, and there's so many nice cities in North Carolina. Jiao, you can say yes. Oh, I toured there. Raleigh, right?

Raleigh or Asheville or Greenville. There's so many beautiful places. And everyone's happy. Asheville is great. Yeah. And yeah so many beautiful places. And everyone's happy. Asheville's great. Yeah. And yeah, I did that in way less tax. Way less. Way less.

And you go to Tennessee, there's zero, in fact. Wow. Zero. You know that? I should go there. Yes, you should think about that. Knox, I was just in Chattanooga the other day.

That's a beautiful town. All right, Brad, we're going to let you go. Tell them again where to find everything. Yes, just go to bradwilliamscomedy.com for all the tour dates. I've got over 70 cities in 2024 that I'm touring in. So if I'm not coming to your town, just wait. And most importantly, the comedy special, Starfish. There it is.

You see me. Look at that. Spreading out today on the streaming platform. Veeps, you don't have to pay to subscribe. You see me. Look at that. Out today on the streaming platform, Veeps. You don't have to pay to subscribe. You can go there, see a concert from the Imagine Dragons, and also see a comedy special from me. Really enjoyed making this special.

Really proud of it and hope you all enjoy it. Congratulations. Congratulations. Enjoy the shortest day of the year. Well done, sir. Thank you, guys. Great seeing you both. All right.

We just got that joke. All right, Brad. See you later. Let's have the dog is farting again over here. Do you smell that? Yeah. Oh, my God. Where is he?

Well, so he farts stinky. I'm going to take a call if you guys are cool with that. He's pointing his butt in your direction. We're going to talk to Mimi. He's also sleeping on the camera camera so if it wiggles oh he's on this camera okay oh that's why it was moving all right maybe you gotta you gotta unmute yourself it is breathtaking i can't breathe it's hold on hey i have conspiracies thank you, for letting me speak in your space. I just wanted to say... You bet. What's your conspiracy? My conspiracy is, and I just wanted to talk to you directly, if and if successful,

if they lock up Trump and he is a previous president and he has security, don't they have to lock up his security with him? I just wanted to get your intake. Because they would have to take the whole floor. What an interesting question. That's a great question. So your point is, no one has ever thought of that.

What else are you thinking about these days, Mimi? Use that mind for good. So she's asking, Charlene, she's asking, Trump has to have a Secret Service dispatch at all times because he's a former president. What happens when they put him behind bars? Do they have to provide their own security for him or do they have to lock up the security with him? I have 27. I have 27 as far as his security. So if y'all lock up Trump, y'all locking up 27 other men, fathers, mothers, attendants. I guess they would be able to take shifts. What do you say?

Yeah, they could rotate. Trump is going to be safe in jail. He's wearing a diaper. Nobody's going gonna touch him. But he's required to have... I mean, Mimi makes a great thing. But point, which is he's required to have... Security.

Security, yeah. He's a former president. I think he can have 20 Russian supermodels as his insecurity detail. Ah, so he'll pick his own secret service. Insecurity details. Insecurity detail. All right, let's get Josh up, see if he wants to say something. supermodels as his insecurity detail ah so he'll pick his own secret service insecurity details insecurity detail all right let's get josh up see if he wants to say something anybody else if you're interested just raise your hand come on up here we'll i mean or do you lose all your

rights when you go to jail well that's it's what's great about her question it's like something nobody ever thinks about it's like what do you what does that mean even uh go to jail yeah dr sorry hey what's going on there not much so I was listening to Roseanne and you just about an hour ago great great podcast that was just released

between Roseanne Barr and yourself and you were talking about mental illness and I was wondering is there a connection between comedy comedians and manic depression or bipolar? Well, funny you would ask. I'll let Zhao Ying chew on that a little bit first. What do you think?

You can tell a joke first, but without joking, what are your thoughts on that? I think all comedians are fucked up. The beauty about it is they know they are fucked up, so they unleash the evil. So they heal from it. I think comedy is a way to process your thoughts and express yourself from your trauma, that you are okay with your trauma.

So to pile on to what she's saying, Josh, the reason that that whole After Dark podcast and YouTube channel was set up was because Christina Przyski, who is Tom Segura's wife, said to me, you know, comedians are also fucked up. I want you to talk them

and talk them about their fucked upness and what it is. And I found almost everyone had, well, virtually everyone had trauma so that's what that's what chow ying's talking about and the trauma was a source of different things for different people i mean if you talk to bobby lee man oh his trauma is still still troubling i'm not sure i'm not sure it's still he's processing it through the comedy enough yet um but it seems like you like are very productive with your comedy,

with the trauma. Yes. Do you have feelings when you use the trauma as a source? In other words, do you feel it still? I got over it. I think I got over it. I feel it when I talk about it. I just like, wow, damn. But then I was able to be over it just because if i'm not over it the audience is not gonna feel safe oh that's interesting and and josh to your question in specific uh almost every comedian that killed him or herself was bipolar so there is something about bipolar yeah and disorder i don't know what exactly why, but that is definitely in the mix.

But I feel like there's comedians that aren't bipolar. And I think those are the ones that are really interesting to look at because you can do it without being bipolar. But my question really is, is it a cure? I mean, if you're productive and you're bipolar, but there is a dark, I mean, yes, so suicide, you can talk about that, but obviously that's always the risk and that's really serious stuff. Yeah. So let me answer your question. I would

answer by saying it is not good for bipolar. It does not help bipolar. That's why these guys have killed themselves. And many of them, if you remember, oh, shoot, big tall guy with a beard. He just killed himself about two years ago. Everyone loved him. God dang it. Susan, can you look up just, or Caleb, bipolar comedian, suicide, like 2018 or 19. Everyone knew him. Everyone loved him. He had severe bipolar and the comedy worked against him because he would refuse to take his medication. Brody Stevens.

Thank you very much. Excuse me. I think so. It's a fart. It's a fart. Something in this room. He would refuse to take his medicine. They don't feel as funny when they're stable. It really does not work well with bipolar. But it does work well with trauma.

And trauma, for the reasons Zhao Yun just mentioned, it's not a cure because we actually studied some comedians when we did our narcissism study. And it's not as though the comedy and said less narcissism. They had plenty of narcissism and plenty of trauma But it depends what you mean by cure you're saying that it helps you regulate your feelings about trauma, right? It doesn't bother you so much. Yeah, it helped me regular, but then then fix it right? Yeah, it helps you regulate And so the problem then still is how do you deal with the trauma in a relationship, right? Does it come out there? And that's what you and I are going to have to talk about.

Yes. Yeah. Whenever Zhao Ying comes up to me, she goes, why am I so fucked up? Why am I so fucked up? Yes. And yet we've never had the conversation. Why is that?

I think because my mom is still alive and she lives with me. I see. But they will live forever, Asian women. They're like turtles. I see. Tortoises. Yeah, tortoises.

Stacey, Joanna, Zhao Ying, thank you so much for coming and joining us in our house. We appreciate you being here. We welcome you. Thank you for having me. Thank you for the flowers. You made Susan laugh continuously for an hour and a half. I love you.

I love you, Susan. Thank you for sort of doing part of the inaugural launching of our studio here. It's my honor. And now we got to work on the dog problem. Yeah, it is breathtaking. But he really gets going, to work on the dog problem. Yeah, it is breathtaking. But he really gets going, boy. I don't understand. Well, it rained yesterday.

Maybe he needs to go outside. I'm not, I don't know. That's, that is talent. He's completely dead asleep. Well, that's how he's letting loose. Yeah, a little too much for the audience. Caleb, anything from your standpoint? No, I've been laughing a lot

so it's hard for me to pay attention. Everything else. We wanted to sort of get into the holidays with a little bit of levity and we knew Zhao Yun could bring it. And we'd love requests for other comedians that we've had on After Dark before and maybe, you know, if anybody has any good ideas for 2023

we're going to have more in-studio guests that are funny. And if you need Jiayi back, she lives only 15 minutes away. We'll go get her. Yes, I would love to come here. This is out to the children. We want to meet them.

We've never met your kids. We'll log to Chicago. Oh my God. Wouldn't it be great to bring your mom here? We'll do a three-way interview here. Oh my God. She got so famous on my podcast. We have like billions of views on one clip my mom just what did she do she just said mom i'm pretty in

america dark skin bigger is beautiful she goes americans eyes are bigger they should see better so she just literally wait so so whitey's eyes are bigger so they can see you better or they should be able to see you better, but they don't. Yeah. So they, yeah, she just went viral in China because she just,

she didn't even care. She just say it and she think she do me a favor. That's so funny. All right, you guys, it's been a privilege.

It's fun doing this. You know, we're sort of rolling to the end of 2024. We actually do have a big week coming up next week too. Let me,

let's put the particulars up here. I know that we talked about Roseanne a minute ago. She's coming in on the 10th of January. Have you met Roseanne? Oh, my God. I'm a huge fan of Roseanne.

You were at the Skank Fest, right? No, she wasn't at Skank. Oh, no, no. I wasn't, but I love her comedy. Yeah. She's a trend. Somebody on the research said that you guys should do a show together. Yeah. you would lean

into each other's stuff it would be very interesting we're going to keep the Chinese theme going with Dr. Li Meng Yan coming in next Tuesday

and Emily Kaplan on I guess that's Wednesday after Christmas usual time three o'clock Sean Baker carnivore guy

Brian Kilmeade on the third Jim Brewer on the fourth Paul Alexander after Roseanne he's been pretty active lately on social media he's got some more to say

again we'll take your request if you want to contact DrDrew.com we're happy to book guests that you want and we appreciate the audience, we appreciate you all being here we appreciate your support, we're going to continue into 2024 trying to get things right. I do feel like things are turning a little bit.

We're able to have more conversation, more clear conversation. Things that I was getting attacked for six months ago, lo and behold, are becoming consensus. Shocking. And I'm sure I got things wrong too. And so that will come into focus more as we get into 2024 and we'll continue to fight the fight. I do suggest if you missed the show from yesterday

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