Ask Dr. Drew - Adam Carolla & Viva Frei: Would President Gavin Newsom Be Better Or Worse Than A 2-Term Joe Biden? – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 377
Episode Date: July 7, 2024California governor Gavin Newsom has done such a famously terrific job of solving his state’s homeless, addiction, and crime problems. Perhaps he should be promoted to President, so he can mold the ...rest of the country in the image of Skid Row whilst locking down all the beaches. Attorney Viva Frei and comedian Adam Carolla join Dr. Drew to explain why a President Gavin Newsom could be worse than a 2-term President Joe Biden, and analyze recent hit pieces against Robert F. Kennedy Jr. that were debunked within hours. David Freiheit AKA Viva Frei is an attorney and host of “Viva Frei” on Rumble and Locals. He also cohosts the legal podcast “Viva and Barnes Live” at https://VivaBarnes.Locals.com. Follow Viva Frei at https://x.com/thevivafrei and https://vivafrei.com/ The Adam Carolla Show is one of the top daily downloaded comedy podcasts in the world. For a decade, Dr. Drew and Adam Carolla hosted the nationally syndicated radio show Loveline. They currently host the Adam & Dr. Drew Show on all podcast platforms. Adam is a NYT bestselling author and his latest book ‘Everything Reminds Me of Something: Advice…but No Apologies’ is available now. Follow Adam at https://x.com/AdamCarolla and learn more at https://adamcarolla.com 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • UPSIDE – Download the FREE Upside App at https://upside.app.link/drdrew to get an extra 25 cents back for every gallon on your first tank of gas. • CAPSADYN - Get pain relief with the power of capsaicin from chili peppers – without the burning! Capsadyn's proprietary formulation for joint & muscle pain contains no NSAIDs, opioids, anesthetics, or steroids. Try it for 15% off at https://capsadyn.com/drew • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley and the special 30-stick deal at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley30 • TRU NIAGEN - For almost a decade, Dr. Drew has been taking a healthy-aging supplement called Tru Niagen, which uses a patented form of Nicotinamide Riboside to boost NAD levels. Use code DREW for 20% off at https://drdrew.com/truniagen • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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to therapeutic.
Viva Fry kindly joins us again
from Canada this afternoon.
Amongst other things,
we'll talk about Gavin Newsom,
who has made things so wonderful
in the great state of California.
Things are just going so well here.
We want to make sure
the rest of the country
gets to participate in this glory.
Also at the top of the hour,
Adam Carolla will join us.
Of course, Adam and I
have been working together for,
let's see, since 1996, which is a mind boggling.
Uh, we still have a podcast together, Adam and Dr.
Druscio, if you ever want to listen to that, uh, but he'll be in there to talk about his
encounter with Gavin Newsom.
He's been sort of, um, concerned about Gavin Newsom for many, many years.
And I think we've all saw one of his older interviews and I will get the new interview for all of you to see in a few minutes. So be sure to stay with us.
Lots to talk about, a lot going on in France, a lot going on in Canada,
many things to discuss. Stay with us. Pay attention here. We'll be right back.
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us again. He's up in Canada with his family right now,
which is from whence he hearkens.
Viva
and Barnes, of course, is his
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and let's see if there's anywhere else.
And of course, Viva Fry on Rumble and Locals
and the legal podcast
Viva and Barnes Live.
Welcome, Viva Fry.
Dr. Drew, thank you very much. Welcome back, my friend.
I'm back in Canada.
Gas up here, at least in Quebec,
is $1.76 Canadian a liter.
So you multiply that by four,
you, I don't't know take off 25 percent
we're like at five and a half six bucks us a gallon and um with the bronco we're feeling the
pain but um it's uh well just so you feel better it's it's closer to six dollars here in california
closer than that so uh good times so obscene no it's obscene, and I watch people spending more on essential
items like gas and the basics,
not making any more in Canada,
paying taxes up the wazoo.
I come back here, and I get not bitter, but I get
very cynical because it's a
beautiful country. The air is fresh.
The nature is beautiful. You occasionally
have to scan a QR code when you want to go hiking
in the mountains, but government can
ruin everything, even the most beautiful landscape on earth. Well, I'm here in California to second that.
This is one of the greatest regions in the world to live, and yet they've made it absolutely
almost unlivable. If they try lockdowns again, I will get in my car and drive away. That's it. I
can't do it. And certainly in Canada, that's a real possibility. So I was up there. I was up in British Columbia. Have we talked about
this, you and I? Possibly, but remind me because I think I'll have something to say about it.
So I participated in this We Unify campaign, which was an attempt to sort of address some of the
excesses of the Canadian government. And it was Jay Bhattacharya and Peter McCullough and I,
and there was a bunch of heavy hitters up there sort of really trying to redress what had happened,
the excesses of government overreach.
And one of the things I'm going to show you in a few minutes is Adam Carolla's interaction with Gavin Newsom,
who takes the position,
well, we didn't know. We just didn't know. People were afraid. We didn't know. It's like, really?
You didn't know? So you jumped immediately to a totalitarian impulse of destroying people systematically from on high. That's your impulse when you don't know? That's the thing that is so
disgusting about what we have been through, so frankly so scary so let me ask
you my first question and then i'll tell you what i observed up there are people pushing back on the
canadian government is there any movement in a different direction it's it's terrible because
it doesn't feel like there is at all it's like people just want to not even forgive they just
want to forget and i think it's because everybody feels so fundamentally humiliated as to how stupid
and crazy they got both with themselves their neighbors their kids and their friends and their families
they just i mean nobody talks about it it's like there wasn't a time two years ago where they
saran wrapped off uh christmas cards and birthday cards at the pharmacies because those were
non-essential items in a store that was essential and had to stay open people have forgotten about
the five and a half months of curfew in Quebec
in what was it, 2021?
And then another month and a half in 2022.
So not only is there no pushback,
there was a bit of a pushback with the Ottawa truckers protests.
And then Justin Trudeau invoked the Emergencies Act
and violently suppressed the most peaceful protest ever.
And then when there was an investigation,
a commission hearing into that,
his invocation was ratified.
And so, you know, bottom line, his invocation was ratified.
And so, you know, bottom line, everyone wants to just move on, forget about it and go back to living in a country where the amazing thing.
Canadians, I find, are more obsessed and repulsed by American politics than by Canadian politics.
And I think it's just a little bit distracting. Yeah, I hear people talking about Trump.
I'm like in Canada, we're being governed by an absolute tyrant in Canada, taxed into poverty.
One in four Canadian children have food issues, food concerns. And Canadians are sitting here
saying it's going to be the end of the world if Trump gets reelected in America. It's the
ultimate distraction from their own sorrow here. Things are bad, and I hope they get better soon.
Yeah, it is interesting. I would imagine well i know canadians that are fearful
that if they step out of line i.e you know express concerns about government overreach or criticize
the leadership that somehow their banking will get frozen which to me is the ultimate tyranny
for those who don't know during the trucker protest when they invoke the emergencies act
which is the nuclear bomb of legislation when no existing legislation can um provide the tools to
quell a national crisis they invoke the emergencies act and that petty tyrant dictator christia
freeland who shipped more canadian tax dollars off to her homeland, Ukraine, than to fend for the Canadian children who are going hungry.
They called in the military, but didn't call it the military.
And Chrystia Freeland authorized the banks to freeze the bank accounts
of people who participated in, potentially donated to the convoy,
and freeze their bank accounts with no legal due process
while immunizing the banks in doing so. I mean, it's like they immunize the banks to freeze bank accounts with no legal due process while immunizing the banks in doing so
i mean it's like they immunize the banks to uh freeze bank accounts they immunize or they give
hold harmless clauses to pharma companies while experimenting on their own human population
it is fascism by definition and uh right that's it hey well it came and it went and now let's
look forward to you know fearing what happens if happens if Donald Trump gets elected in America in 2024.
So I want to I want to post try a theory out on you.
So, you know, the French politics has fascinated me and I fell in a rabbit hole a couple of years ago about the French Revolution.
I've been I've found some favorite French historians. I've been listening to French lectures in French.
And I noticed about
18 months ago, the French were reconsidering
what it means to be French. And I
thought, oh, this is going to be a thing soon.
There's going to be a... This is
somehow a reaction to the immigration
thing, and there's going to be... Something's going to
happen, and now it's happening. So I
identified it early. I don't think they
knew it. I could just tell they were sort of opening the history books and going and this guy napoleon it's part of who
we are and maybe it wasn't all bad the things like that they're like they're really reconsidering
things but here's a theory i have i i started i couldn't understand how a population of well-educated people followed disgusting maniacs like Mirabeau or Robespierre
and how the Committee for Public Safety, sound familiar, was able to carry out the terror.
And I was acutely aware, I read Rousseau's confessions, and now when i hear about mirabeau and robespierre's history
there was an authoritarian stretch there for about 100 years where french fathers had
absolute authority over their kitchen kids and they were brutal they were really physically
abusive and i thought oh well that's where this comes from the because whenever the father is a problem, the child will see society as victimizing them
because the dad kind of represents society to a child. This is an old theory. We can argue about
whether it's true or not, but certainly it seemed to be true back in 1790 France. What is going on
now, do you think? It seems like a lot of what they're fighting against are windmills.
They're creating things to fight against.
And is that true, do you think?
And do you have a theory as to why that is?
Because I do.
Now, hold on.
You mean the government chasing the windmills or the people? No, I think the people.
I mean, the topics that people are are apoplectic about
are sort of invented you know what i mean that because things are not that bad but they become
apoplectic about certain things and it's like yeah yeah okay let's pay attention to this but
apoplexy yeah i i will there's my theory is i don't know if you know who um oh geez parkinson
is not the uh guy who discovered or was named Parkinson after the disease.
Parkinson's, the economist had a theory called Parkinson's law of mundanity, or Parkinson's
law of triviality.
The time it takes to accomplish a task will expand to fit the time you have to accomplish
that task.
So if you have all morning to mail an envelope, it'll take all morning to mail an envelope.
You know who said that?
Lucille Ball.
Lucille Ball said that when she was running a studio and starring in a show.
She goes, you know what?
The more you do, the more you'll do, which is the same way of saying it.
Well, absolutely.
And then the other one is Parkinson's law of, it's either triviality or mundanity, I forget which.
But you get a bunch of people around in an office talking about complex issues to resolve as far as
shareholder value, etc.
The more complex the issue, the less everyone's
going to have an opinion because it takes more knowledge,
more insight, more understanding to have one.
Ask them where to place the water cooler.
You can fight about that for 45 minutes to an hour.
My theory
would be they go apoplectic
over the things that they have control over
which happen to be the most trivial things and ignore the most serious problems because they are powerless
or don't have sufficient understanding to resolve those broader bigger problems um and i think that
that materializes in in politics where you'll you'll go crazy over the the small stupid things
because those are the things you can control and those are the things that are easy to understand
and easy to have an opinion on,
but not the complicated stuff.
It's also a way for to keep us distracted by the leaders. But I was worried that there's something
about fathers going on now.
And in this country,
we have an awful lot of absent fathers,
an awful lot of divorce,
an awful lot of step-parenting.
And I don't know.
I don't think that's going on so much in Canada,
but I worry about that.
So we went up to British Columbia.
As you said, I mean, it's just fast.
It's magnificent.
The natural resources are just beyond.
And the people could not be more lovely and nice.
But just with something I observed, just underneath the surface is a sort of a festering aggression.
Do you agree with me it is um it's a
bizarre thing there was an expression that i've appreciated as an adult that what is it in the
heart of every bleeding heart liberal is an aspiring tyrant something along those lines
it is it's politeness for the sake of politeness and then the second you defy that
politeness then the anger somehow
becomes justified because you're not being polite you're not going along to get along
and i think it's a little bit different in the countryside i think people out of the country
generally are you know i say happier more loving more forgiving and more tolerant you know live
and let live you get into the city yeah i don't know if you were in vancouver but you get into
like the vancouver i was in vancouver and victoria and victoria was
way out there oh drew victoria is like seattle on steroids like in victoria they were they were
literally flying the the period flag in the city hall of victoria the the the female menstrual flag
for menstrual x nice the thing about canada is It's bizarre.
Canadians
pride themselves on being polite.
And to some extent, people take the argument
to be, yes, yes, but then there's
politeness, subservience, and
that quickly turns to rage when people
are not subservient. And it's no longer
polite when you say, I'm not doing what the government
tells me to do. And they're like, well, that's not
polite. It's good to be subservient it's good to be um it's good to do what you're
told and the second you don't want to do it quite literally they say well that's that's the american
way that's a very american selfish wild west attitude i'm like there's no virtue in being
cowardice or being subservient to the government that is a vice that is a flaw but we've been
conditioned and we have our history we have our cultural history and to some extent it's good it
gives us the stereotype of being polite canadians following the rules listening to big brother
government but also phoning in when you see people in the park that are too close together
or you know kids not social distancing um so it is a double-edged sword that cuts both ways sometimes
right it's i i don't like i have an aversion to sublimated aggression.
I just think it's a very dangerous thing.
As you said, it causes people to do things in a crisis that you saw,
that we saw in Germany during the 1930s.
And that's the kind of stuff people do when they can't express their aggression more directly.
All right, let's talk about Gavin Newsom for a second.
I'm going to ask you a simple question that we put out on our promo for this show.
Would Gavin Newsom be better or worse than a two-term Joe Biden-Harris ticket?
The funny thing is this.
I predicted and I literally put money on Joe Biden not being the nominee.
Now, I have since cashed out because I don't think it's going to get less likely than that.
He was trading it like it was 71 cents on the dollar that he would not be the presidential nominee for the Democrats.
Like I think swapping him out for anybody who can complete a sentence would be better than what we have right now.
People are saying, well, nobody's more popular than Joe or at least Joe is more popular than everyone else in the field.
Everyone hates Gavin. Everyone hates Kamala. Everyone hates Gretchen Whitmer. And everyone
sure as hell hates Hillary Clinton. But I think everyone knows that Biden is mentally incapable
and anybody else would literally do better than than joe biden gavin
newsom i i at one point had my prediction on him because i thought they were like even making him
look like joe biden they were making him act like joe biden he was running around gallivanting with
uh president she you know he's engaging in interstate debate with with um uh ron de santis
like oh he's the santis but um no i think like he's he's he's not just Oh, he's acting like the role. But no, I think he's
not just incompetent, he's thoroughly,
thoroughly negative
and as has been his impact
on California, but he's a
smooth reptilian
politician who will literally
lie without dropping
a sweat. He's a good candidate to
fill in. So,
look, who the hell knows what's going to happen
but we're not yet done with the meltdown there's going to be some wild infighting among the
democrats sooner than later well not only that they've really seemed like they have decided
they're going to go all the way with president biden and they can't pass over harris so if
something happens to him it's going to be her.
And if he, I mean, he's severely Parkinsonian.
We can all see that.
That's just simply observable.
And he has seemingly deteriorated a bit in the last six months or so.
So what causes that?
There's a number of different medical conditions that can cause things like that.
I don't know him.
I'm not saying this is what he has, but things like vascular dementia, Lewy body dementia, Parkinson's disease.
The problem is when things accelerate, they tend to continue to accelerate, which means that the
next three months or so, certainly the next six months, things could get very bad. Do you think they will continue to gloss over and gaslight the entire world as they are doing right at the present moment?
Well, the gaslighting was for the last two years when they were saying there's nothing wrong with Joe.
When Joe Scarborough gets on and says he's cogent, I've never known him to be better or sharper.
That was the gaslighting.
Right now it's the damage control because everybody knows it.
And so you have the media turning on Joe right now.
And the only question is, they knew how bad he was, and yet they were promoting this debate.
Oh, he's going to wipe the floor with Donald Trump.
And then, you know, the week of the debate, one bad debate doesn't define a presidency.
And then the week later, they're literally saying, I'll vote for a demented joe in a chair over trump so i think that's what they're going for
well i mean that that's it's almost like that's been the sensitizing like okay you you have no
choice there's some legalities as to how you can't even just swap someone else in for him but the
thing is this like i don't i don't want to put out bad juju in the universe. He's 81. He's
beyond the lifespan of ordinary healthy adults. And he's quite clearly demented. I mean, every
Matlock could be his last, to quote The Simpsons. So he could physically not be there. And then what
you think people are going to be happy that Kamala is going to take the reins? I mean, she's more
detested than anybody. She's the worst candidate of them all.
If it happens that Biden says, I'm stepping down, Kamala take over, or he physically ceases
to be there or 25th, and it's not just going to go smoothly to Kamala.
I'm telling you, Hillary Clinton is going to start fighting.
There's a fly in here, and I'm going to kill that thing when I get it in my sights.
I had a tense moment earlier when it landed on my nose, but there's going to be disaster.
Oh, that's so funny.
There's going to be disastrous inciting.
What are the betting markets telling us?
Oh, my goodness.
You said you're watching them.
I'm watching them compulsively, unhealthily compulsively.
But Kamala Harris was more likely to be the Democrat nominee than Joe Biden today.
She overtook him at one point by a long shot.
Gavin Newsom's fallen off.
Hillary Clinton's at the bottom end.
But if they all start fighting and
Biden ceases to be the candidate,
well, my goodness, all of their odds are going to go up
exponentially and there's going to be
really, really nasty infighting. I don't think Hillary's
done with wanting to be president.
I don't think Michelle Obama wants
to be president, but there might think Michelle Obama wants to be president,
but there might be some deep state pressure for her to accept it,
make her an offer that she can't refuse type thing.
So, you know, between Michelle Obama,
Hillary Clinton, Gretchen Whitmer, Kamala Harris,
there will be some fighting
because they all want that precious, precious ring.
Wow.
And then in the meantime, have uh some strange stories come
old stories being rehashed i guess uh trump epstein and rfk jr uh guess what drug addict
did drug addict things when he was a drug addict um shocking i can't believe it what do you make
of all that well it's funny um similar thing happened with Russell Brand. When you write, not a tell-all
novel, but when you write sort of a diary, what's the word? When you ask for forgiveness. In Russell
Brand's recovery book, you ask for forgiveness and you make amends with the world. And to the
extent the political powers that be like you or love you it becomes a harrowing uh
transformational story when they decide they don't like you they then go right back to that book and
pull up every story you told them there to drudge up everything from your past and go after people
rfk jr was a sweetheart much like trump until he decided to run and now they're going to go
drudge up everything that he did as a as a younger person and i have no doubt some of it's going to
be pretty nasty but what's amazing is
they discredit themselves by lying.
I don't know who that Matt Corr,
there's some Democrat operative
who posted the picture of
RFK with what was said to be
a grilled dog. And I'm like,
who does that? I mean, I know there's
a Canadian politician who snuck her way into
an illegal cockfight and ate dog
in Indonesia back
in the late, I think, 2000s, whatever. But it wasn't a dog. And so they start already
astroturfing with fake news so that some idiot is going to believe that that's a picture of a dog.
And even when you're told it's not a dog, you're going to say, oh, well, how do you know there was
a vet who did a forensic analysis of the picture and said there's a floating rib and it's a dog?
But they discredit themselves by lying about certain things so that no one's going to believe the other stuff but my
goodness no the the hit piece machine is out in full force and rfk jr he was sort of beloved until
he went anti-vax in or vaccine critical and then he became public enemy number one when he decided
to run and they're going to try to destroy him with truth and with lies and yet not and yet goes the other
way with the president where it's all gaslighting i saw fauci today's insisting that i don't know
what you're talking about he looks fine maybe some medication side effects um he's he's is
parkinsonian that is simply what you're observing. That is categorically, without exception, that's what the slow motor, the mask-like
faces, the festinating gait.
Yeah, that's all.
It's called mask faces.
Mask-like faces, it's called.
And the festinating gait.
I mean, you can, like I keep telling people,
in medical school, when they show us neurological illnesses, they show us videos of people manifesting.
If we're studying Parkinson's,
the video is precisely what we see in the president.
Now, is he Parkinsonian because he has Parkinson's disease,
because he's taken some medication that caused Parkinson's?
Is he got a vascular dementia?
Does he have Lewy body dementia?
I have no idea.
But he has one of those things, for sure, because those are the things that cause what we're looking at.
Now, I don't know if we're going to learn.
I guess the natural history, each of those four things have a different natural history.
And if it's Lewy body, which is the one one that i worry about it's going to be relatively quick things are going
to get really bad uh robin williams had that go ahead not to get not to get too anti-vax conspiracy
theorist is louis body not one of the uh adverse events that's that's been reported with uh being
over vaxxed or over jabbedabbed? I would say not.
I'm sure people are trying to make all kinds of correlations.
I don't, I wouldn't, that's getting over the skis.
I would stay as close to the facts as you can.
It's irrelevant for the purposes of this issue
because he's been vaccinated for pre-COVID.
No, I just wanted, because I've known some other
closer acquaintances.
But forget that.
It's not just the gaslighting
on his health.
You know, they, in 20,
when was the Steele dossier?
2016.
They accused Trump of pissing on hookers
in a Moscow hotel
when it was Hunter Biden doing that.
Now they're recycling this story
that had already been broken and sort
of already discredited of allegations of Trump and Epstein Island. And they're recycling these
at the same time they're recycling lies about about RFK Jr., about eating dog, all the while
ignoring Joe Biden and his Tara Reid credible, according to Lisa Bloom bloom the daughter of gloria allred admitted and known sexual abuse
of tara reed um his now confirmed uh stories from ashley biden's diary of his inappropriate
conduct with her when she was a kid his crackhead criminal son now who's been convicted and now for
somehow has a seat at the table about about uh offering advice to joe biden whether or not he
stays let me just tell you he you, to sort of finish this,
I will say that,
I've got to take a break in a second,
and when we get back,
I'm going to show you the video of Adam
with Gavin Newsom.
But what's happening here
is what's happening in families
all over this country.
All of us that deal with elderly patients
are very familiar with this phenomenon,
which is, as people age,
particularly with certain personality styles,
but as they age and they get neurological conditions, they get something called
anosognosia. Drug addicts get this, bipolar get it, schizophrenia get it, but so do demented
patients get it. They lack the insight into what's happening to them. The condition makes
it impossible for them to see what's happening. So the family becomes alarmed. This is because
people are living too long or living so long and then working well into these's happening. So the family becomes alarmed. This is because people are living too long
or living so long
and then working well into these advanced years.
So this is happening a lot.
And so the family comes in and goes,
we got to get the car keys away from him.
He's going to kill somebody.
He's going to kill himself.
Got to get the car keys
and he shouldn't be working.
He's going to fall.
He's going to break his hip.
And this happens.
It takes a long time
to get somebody into shape when they're in this kind of condition.
You have to invoke all sorts of sometimes legal maneuvers.
Sometimes it's interventions of type.
And more often than not, they do fall and break a hip or they do hurt somebody with their vehicle while you're trying to get this under control.
And it happens a lot.
And this is what's happening in the Biden family.
And the family has varying degrees of denial too.
Like they don't want to admit that things are as bad as they are.
They can't see it much the way the patient can't see it.
So this is not an unusual thing.
It's just so crazy that it's happening in the White House.
We're going to take a break.
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Adam Corolla joins us in about 20 minutes or so.
And when we get back,
first thing I want to do is show the video
to Viva of Adam's encounter with,
and I'll set it up once we get back,
with Governor Newsom live on television.
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So this is a video of Adam on the Chris Cuomo show after the debates.
Now, he had no idea that he was going to be thrown on the air at that moment
with Newsome and Newsome had no idea he was going to confront Adam.
And you had seen Viva,
his 2013 interview with Adam about many different things.
Tell people,
describe that one to people,
if you don't mind and what you saw that with that one.
That one was the one that was going viral on twitter today and it came up a 10 year old video
where gavin newsom tried to you know race bait during a debate and say you know like in california
latino and black families are uh you know particularly disenfranchised particularly
economically uh unfortunate or miss you know lacking in good fortune he said oh well why are
the asians are doing well and he oh well why are the asians are
doing well and he's like well no the asians are they're not everybody's doing badly so like okay
well if everybody's doing badly why are you singling out the blacks and latinos he's like oh
because they're doing particularly worse he says well what's it about them that they're doing
particularly worse compared to asians or uh you know east africans i don't know and it was it was
just an amazing thing where by the end of it gavin newsom was like all right well you know everybody's having problems and he almost uh you know
bashedly no what is it what's the word i'm looking for i forgot the word but he almost
like looked embarrassed for having tried to race bait in the first place yeah and and he did
something there's more to that video because i've seen adams played it for me a number of times
there's more to that video where he knew Newsom goes, well, the real problem
for the black and Latinos
in Los Angeles
is these check cashing facilities.
And Adam goes, really?
Why?
Why is that a problem?
He goes, well,
they can't get a bank.
He goes, really?
They can't get a bank?
Why can't they bank?
What's wrong with them?
Would you tell me exactly
why they can't bank?
Why don't we solve that problem?
What's wrong with their banking?
Well, he is such a he he is there's nothing truthful there's nothing honest there's nothing substantial about really anything he says he's just full
of empty slogans and shibboleths and And he tries here again on this Chris Cuomo show.
So I'm gonna play this for you and you go ahead and react.
Viva hasn't seen this yet.
I have not seen this.
Adam Carolla here.
Governor, why did you shut the beaches
in California during COVID?
Yeah, I think we all were working on information
at the time.
We had no basis of deeply understanding uh the virus
i think they didn't know anything so why did you shut the beach like florida if you didn't know
anything why'd you shut the beaches well we didn't know yeah because people were concerned early in
the pandemic information was coming out as it related to how it was transferred uh the disease
and people were cautious trying to keep people alive.
And I should say this.
So you didn't let him go in the sunshine and get vitamin D and exercise, so you shut the beaches.
Okay.
And you arrested a guy who was paddleboarding in the bay.
And health, wealth, and...
Yeah, any science behind that?
Any science at all behind shutting down outdoor dining?
Why'd you shut down outdoor dining? Why'd you shut down outdoor dining?
Why'd you shut the beaches?
It's so bad.
I mean, first of all, well, we didn't understand at the time.
A, it's not true because there were people at the time saying,
you need vitamin D, you need exercise, you need to be outdoors.
So that's not true.
But like Adam Krohler was saying, I had this fight with people at the time saying you need vitamin D, you need exercise, you need to be outdoors. So that's not true. But like Adam Krohler was saying, I had this fight with people at the time.
If you don't know, you don't do drastic, wild things like shutting down businesses and locking people in their home.
That's what you do when you know that you need to do that.
They're just a bunch of idiots.
What they are is a bunch of power-hungry tyrants who saw their opportunity and they seized it.
And now they can say oh we
didn't know we all crap there were a lot of people saying things at the time that they should have
been listening to and the fact that they didn't know meant that they weren't listening to the
people who they should have been listening to which makes them the idiots and they should
nuremberg 2.0 but i won't go there during this podcast group sorry well let's remember they were
silencing people who who were dissenting they They were hurting people, hurting them for daring to take
issue with their power or their pronouncements, which were egregious. And so it's for me,
even one thing just to go, oh, we tried, we went along with it, we did this. But then to crush
people who want to consider, is this the right thing to do? When I was training residents, the one thing that was an inexcusable response to my question,
why did you do whatever intervention you took?
If your answer was, because we had to do something, I would become enraged.
Because that's how you harm patients.
It's do no harm.
And if you don't know what you're doing and you don't understand
the risk reward of what you're doing, then do nothing until you have a plan until you can
understand what's going on. And at that point, well, then we'll talk about it, but just to do
something because I had to do something that is childlike, disgusting, uh, beyond reproach.
It's just, I can't even deal with it.
And so, and by the way, at the time,
he's talking about, we didn't know.
Adam, by the way, kept going to a hamburger place
in Burbank to support it.
They were having outdoor dining.
And because he knew there was no risk of that
when everything else was locked down,
he wanted to support this family
that was trying to survive,
trying to keep its employees employed.
And guess what they did with that? Shut them down and put a fence around it put a iron fence around
this family business had been around for 50 years and closed it down because they didn't know
drew i can't remember if it was from a documentary or a hollywood movie about the holocaust and after
the allies come and liberate or you know free the free the Germans, they had signs that said, we didn't know.
First of all, it's a lie. We didn't know.
It's a godforsaken lie when Gavin Newsom says, we didn't know.
They did know. That's the problem.
There were articles at the time, and I can go back to my Twitter feed,
articles at the time stating that outdoor transmission was exceedingly low
and that the only cases had been from intimate contact outdoors.
They did know, and they pretend not to know so they could have gotten away with the most uh you know
the biggest power grab the biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the world it was a test
run for a i'm going to sound like a nutcase but it was a test run for a basically global government
that that controls every aspect of your life and brings in a Chinese-type social credit system into the Americas.
And it's not a coincidence
that it was much more pronounced in certain states.
And his idiotic statement,
we outperformed other states,
first of all, bullcrap, because nobody was counting
anything properly. But even if you did
outperform another state that retained
freedom and retained the respect of human rights,
by what, a few thousand?
I mean, it's a big deal. You can prevent all forms of car rights by what a few thousand i mean it's a big
deal you can prevent all forms of car death by taking away people's cars um so we outperformed
three states and we outperformed states that respected constitutional rights at for what and
at how much and i and i doubted in the first place right i doubt it actually is the case and but that
is the point is that they they took the opportunity to leap to a totalitarian impulse,
that they had no difficulty right at the moment.
You know, by the way, one of these days I'll get to tell you,
but I spoke to some governors in the heat of all this who were calling me
because I was saying, calm down, let's reconsider this.
And they called me and said, look, my job as governor is not to tell people
they have to wear a mask, they have to get my job as governor is not to tell people they have to
wear a mask. They have to get a vaccine. That is not the oath I took. That is, I should be
protecting the choice that I'm, that is the oath I took to protect that choice that people should
be having. And I said, stand up strong, please don't, don't withstand, don't stand up to them.
And all of them caved eventually, but now of them didn't keep it uh as long as obviously california did and we have an ab test florida california was an ab test in real time
and it could have been looked at very carefully but it wasn't uh and undo harm incredible harm
was done here and you go to the graph and like oh they they document a few thousand more cases i
don't even know how they measure it because they were never distinguishing died from versus died
with and they know number of cases whatever the bottom line they measure it because they were never distinguishing died from versus died with. And they know number of cases, whatever.
The bottom line, they knew it was bullshit.
I'm sorry, I don't swear.
They knew it was bull crap because they were out dining in enclosed areas.
I don't know if Adam Carolla got to Gavin Newsom's, oh, the French, what was that place called?
The French Laundry?
French Laundry.
Yeah.
Yes.
They knew the rules were stupid, which is why they weren't following themselves in private.
But they sure as heck imposed them with an iron fist on their population.
Yes, if we get him in here, believe me, he will bring that up.
Before we get, I hope he'll be here pretty soon.
I saw you on, I love watching your feeds when you analyze the Supreme Court decisions as they come out.
I think the one that got you most,
two got you most interested, it seems like,
was the immunity case and the Chevron case.
Give us your greatest hits, if you don't mind.
Well, the Chevron case I'm less interested in.
The one that got me was the January 6th obstruction charges and the trump immunity the chevron case is
very important and i use it as the litmus test between the direction in which america is going
you know socially culturally and by zeitgeist versus canada and that one basically is the
chevron doctrine was showing deference to these administrative bodies to uh you know administer
enforce and interpret their own uh rules and regulations to the exclusion of the
courts. And the Chevron doctrine was placing a great degree of deference on those institutions,
and the courts wouldn't get involved so much. That's been overturned now. And so it is a big
blow to the administrative state that the courts are not going to let these administrative bodies
sort of run amok as sort of unelected government. And so, but you compare that to Canada, where you have your human
rights tribunals, you know, issuing the most insane awards of 40,000 bucks to a transgender
employee who got misgendered. And the courts say, well, those are specialty tribunals. We don't get
involved unless there's really big errors of the law, in fact. So the Chevron is interesting,
but the best one, one obviously is the immunity case
because it's causing not a meltdown,
but rather a frothing up.
The media is trying to whip their ill-informed,
low information followers into violence.
I sincerely believe it.
They came out now, it's like,
oh, okay, the president can assassinate his rival
with impunity.
And I'm like, you're all a bunch of idiots who have not read the actual decision. And I've been calling
people moron more than I should on Twitter, but they're morons. They're morons or liars.
The immunity case can be summarized simply as there's immunity for acts that fall within the
constitutional duties of the president. There's no immunity for purely private acts that the
president might carry out as president.
And for anything that's in the outer orbit of presidential conduct, there is presumptive immunity.
But that needs to be established on a case by case basis.
Does that sound like you can go assassinate your political rival with immunity?
No, but that's the talking points to the media. So the immunity decision is phenomenal, but not as good as I think it should have been.
I think Supreme Court should have said,
unless there is impeachment and conviction,
there is no criminal prosecution for a president after his term, period.
As it is now, if Obama decides to execute
an American citizen in Afghanistan or wherever
through drone strikes with no due process,
that's within the outer orbit of presidential conduct.
There'll be presumptive immunity for that.
So it didn't go as far as I thought it should have,
but it went far.
And so now they've got to go back.
Go for it.
Go ahead.
Finish that thought.
Now they're going to go back
and everyone's brains are going to melt
because I'm going to do a video about this
right after we're done.
They got to go back now
and look at the conviction in New York State,
the Alvin Bragg, Soros-funded Alvin Bragg,
because Trump was convicted all on acts that occurred when he was president.
And in the majority decision, they basically criticized Jack Smith,
Judge Chutkin out of D.C., the New York courts, the Georgia courts.
You never did any sort of analysis to see if this was a clearly constitutional act as president, a clearly personal act or somewhere in the middle. And so now Trump
was convicted on charges, all of which involve acts that he carried out as president. And they
never did this test. So the judge there, Mershon, has suspend postponed the sentencing and basically
said if there's any sentence at all, because they've got to go back now and see do we toss this entire conviction go back and reassess the acts and see what is
presidential what is purely private and what is within that outer ambit and then have another
trial so it's all it's all gone to hell in a handbasket they got their conviction in the new
york case but that might get overturned sooner than later as well that's very interesting uh and in terms of the dissenting opinions
sotomayor was so odd i i you know she just kept saying immunity immunity immunity i could
call team cl6 in to to go after one of my opponents and it's like
if i were a law clerk under the in the supreme court's you know under stuck under justice
sotomayor wouldn't you raise your hand and go,
no, no, no, this is not a good look.
Can't we do something better than this? Let's argue
constitutionally.
Drew, I think it's the other way around.
Her clerks draft that and they know
how she wants it to be drafted.
It's like if it were
a bar exam
question, it would be a fail
because it's not what the case does.
But it's like,
I've listened to them more often
than most people.
They are a bunch of hyperbolic,
histrionic babies
that throw a hissy fit
when they don't get their way.
And they use the most exaggerated
hyperbolic rhetoric.
Oh, we've now created a king.
No, we haven't.
Unless you think a king
can get sued for purely private
acts that he commits while king. It's just, it's, it's like, sometimes you say I can understand the
dissent. Sometimes you say the dissent is even better and more justified than the majority
decision. Other times it's just dumb and they're just wrong. And they're just partisan idiots.
The immunity case is one of them. And in the obstruction case, the January 6th charges,
you know, the obstruction or otherwise obstructs an official proceeding, and they use that felony against a bunch of the
Jan Sixers. Amy Coney Barrett, a so-called conservative, is just wrong in her opinion.
And in that case, they came to the conclusion that, you know, the interpretation that the
DOJ was giving to that charge that they pressed, that they applied against a lot of the Jan Sixers,
you know, destroyed, alters, impairs evidence for the purpose of obstructing a government
proceeding or otherwise obstructs. And they interpreted the or otherwise to mean anything
and everything that swallows up the first provision of law. And the majority decision
came and said, no, if that's the interpretation you give to it, your interpretation of the
subsection two consumes subsection one. And then the legislator drafted the subsection one
for no reason whatsoever. That's
the right answer. Amy Coney Barrett
coming out and saying, well, that's how the
government and Congress drafted the legislation,
so we're not here to interpret that, is the
wrong answer. So it's not a question of partisan,
it's just a question of functioning brains and
right or wrong reasoning. In the immunity
case, the dissenting opinions are
a bunch of partisan histrionic babies throwing a hissy fit because they're not getting their way
well i i i became concerned about sotomayor when she was interviewing uh i guess it was one of the
censorship uh sort of trials and she was like we have hundreds of thousands of children on
on ventilators right now and i thought well if we have three in the country, I'll be shocked.
How does she come to believe there are hundreds of thousands of children on ventilators?
That is how – and people have to remember, these Supreme Court justices are under the influence of the same media that influences everybody.
And they can get severely adulterated.
When she said that, I became alarmed
because that's just a piece of evidence
of how profoundly disconnected from reality
the people can be
when we are relying to be totally rational.
She probably read the New York Times article
that said there were 800,000 children in hospitals, and she didn't read the updated erratum that said there were 800 000 children in hospitals and
she didn't read the updated erratum that said oh we were off by a factor of i don't know a hundred
thousand um no but that's look it's not um it's not partisan some of the judges are just
consistently wrong and predictably so others are wrong on and off amy coney barrett is predictably
off when it comes to certain issues and kataji brown jack Barrett is predictably off when it comes to certain issues. And Kataji Brown Jackson is predictably on when it comes to certain issues. On the obstruction
charges, the January 6th case, Kataji Jackson Brown, who can't define what a woman is because
she's not a biologist, she can identify when a law would be weaponized against constitutional
protest. And she's very much into
human rights civil rights and she's like no if you give this interpretation to the obstruction
charge it's only a matter of time before they use this against everyone who protested kavanaugh's
confirmation hearings everyone who protests uh trans legislation they don't like gun legislation
they don't like so she's right on certain issues but some of them are just consistently wrong. Sotomayor is a political asset on the bench and not a good one at that.
And Caleb just threw up a poll that I think just happened in real time, Caleb.
Is that correct?
And it was showing that President Biden has a significant lead on some of the other potential candidates.
Throw that up there again.
Strangely enough.
So Newsom, yeah, 43% supporting, preferred.
Go ahead, Caleb.
This is a poll that I put up on the YouTube channel
because that's the only platform we have
that supports the polls right now.
And this is a poll of the audience
to see who they would prefer based on,
like the question is,
if these are the only options,
which person would you prefer for president?
Joe Biden, Gavin Newsom, Michelle Obama,
or Kamala Harris?
And I was shocked that 43% of the results currently are saying
they still want Joe Biden's second term above all the other options.
You've got to remember, we have a lot of right-leaning viewers
and they might be wanting to set up the left for seeing this through.
You know what I mean?
Joe going all the way through is not going to be pretty.
But would you prefer for president,
not like the nominee,
but for president, you know?
Yeah, but I have second term.
There might be a certain element
of people thinking this question
was who do you want to run?
Because I think everyone thinks
Joe Biden would be easier to beat.
I actually honestly think
Gavin Newsom would be harder to beat,
you know, one-on-one against Trump just because he's a pure politician of the most insidious order and that he can lie and and conceal his own failings and shift and divert.
So that might be how people understood that question. But the markets right now, if I go back compulsively to predict it dot org, Kamala Harris is at 44 cents likelihood to be the uh democrat nominee
joe biden's at 43 cents and michelle obama is at eight cents gavin newsom at nine cents so
it's wild well and again you that that equal that equal footing takes into account the possibility
of joe's nomination not surviving it and kamala becoming coming in right
not sure what the rules are if i think the rule is who has to get appointed like
at their at their dnc who gets appointed uh so there's gonna be it's not if he if he you know
becomes unable to serve after getting the appointment so it's only right who is likely
going to be appointed the nominee but but bear in mind, before the debate, it was 89 cents Joe Biden would be the nominee.
Now he's at 43 cents.
It is weird to times.
And I don't like the lack of ability to have truthful conversation.
That's what bugs me.
And that's what bugs me. That's what bugged me about COVID. That's when people were thrown into a panicked frenzy.
I kept saying, let's talk about this.
Slow down.
Let's talk about it.
I don't believe the press.
Let's think about this.
At the time, I was saying, by the way, listen to the CDC and listen to Dr. Fauci.
Whoops, I've lost everything here, Susan.
Listen to the CDC, listen to Dr. Fauci, which was the wrong thing to say.
It turned out that was the one thing I said that was wrong. And I don't know, Fauci, it's so sad because he was
somebody that I really admired. And during the AIDS epidemic, I thought he was such a great,
useful resource. They didn't mandate what we did then. They advised. They were a source of
information and research and sort of best practices.
When they decided that they were going to tell you how to live and what you must do, they completely jumped the shark.
And I don't know if you noticed, we have Deborah Birx running around again now freaking out.
She looks hysterical, screaming about the bird flu.
And if we get a bird flu heading into the human population, it could really only be the only thing I can conclude if it happens this quickly with people pointing at it with this kind of vigor.
It would be that they had gain of function on the bird flu and caused this to happen.
And why would you be wrong in thinking that when we now know virtually definitively that COVID was the result of gain of function research in a lab in Wuhanuhan china it's just you're a conspiracy theorist you're a conspiracy theorist how dare you drew do you remember i mean this is when i was having fights with people who are now
no longer friends and good riddance to bad rubbish when they were saying trust the science you don't
know anything viva you're just a lawyer shut your mouth and stay in your lane hang on a second
hang on adam crowell is calling me on my phone here during this thing. So hold on.
Adam, what's
happening?
Zoom link isn't working. Caleb?
You know that?
Oh, it works.
Oh, apparently
it's working.
I'm going to
text him
a call-in link also
hello to the he's gonna text you a podcast they're gonna text you a call-in link so you can just call
right in okay drew he wants to know why you didn't go ahead viva so someone's gonna mash it someone's
gonna mash together a meme of some of dave uh adam carolla's older stuff as the overlay audio in the
section when you weren't talking and make a conversation that you never actually
had but a humorous one. It's going to happen.
I can't wait. It's the equivalent
of leaving a blank page on a
picture that everyone can fill in whatever they want
on the paper. Well, thanks for
challenging him to do exactly that.
So we'll get it. Don't worry.
But I don't know if you saw
Fauci today. He was
talking about the president's situation,
and he is just so compromised,
and he's compromised in a way that these middle-level bureaucrats all are.
Like,
they all think they know better than everybody.
Leave us alone to run the country.
They have no respect for elected officials,
and I heard this from Paul Alexander, who said he was invited to a State Department party where he was told by all the middle-level management there,
these guys are only here for four years.
Don't worry about them.
We run the United States.
That is a disrespect for the Constitution.
It's a disrespect for the elected officials.
And more importantly, it's a complete and categorical disrespect of the will of the people.
And that's what I see happening. That of the will of the people and that's
that's what i see happening that's the thing that's most concerning to me of all right now
well it's also literally the definition of the deep state or the administrative state
they will be there before and after the elected officials come and go and that is all that was
ever intended by the deep state these are the people who their career politicians
their career you know unelected officials and they control things and they know it and uh and
they're power hungry tyrants fauci i i my understanding of his performance during the
aids epidemic comes from rfk jr's book so i don't share the perspective that you that you have on
that but i appreciate that that's my that's my understanding well you should know that one of the things that rfk and i've gotten into it about is exactly this
the one thing you have to know is that i was there we opened the azt boxes and and until that day
i could only thing i could tell hundreds of young men was they had six months to live
as they would sit in front of me with their first episode of pneumocystis pneumonia. You have six months to live. That's it. Period. I'm sorry.
Nothing we can do. When we could start using AZT, I could say, maybe this will push it back to nine
months. And in that nine month window, hopefully we can come up with more antivirals, which we did.
So the nine months became 18 months and 18 months became 36 months and 36 became,
now we can treat this as a chronic illness and keep this damn thing suppressed.
But it started with this AZT, which is not a good drug. It was just something to get us,
give them something for people that had, this is the, people cannot get through their head.
COVID had a 1% fatality rate. AIDS was 100%, 100% fatality rate. It's just,
it was a totally different thing. It definitely, that's it. And 1% I think is the overestimate
by a long shot anyhow. But it is funny. It's, you know, Alex Jones said it, it's, they use the same
tactics over and over again.
And whether or not AIDS was different in terms of death rate,
they certainly seem to have been using some of the same tactics they try to use now for full medical control.
100%.
I was guilty of it.
I was guilty of it.
I used fear during AIDS.
We congratulated ourselves.
Fauci kept saying, there's going to be 2 million dead.
And you've got to tell them if they have sex with one person,
they're actually having sex with every person that person ever had sex with.
You know, this, this was the, the, the, the rallying cry.
And it was, we were scaring the crap out of high school kids and college kids.
And we patted ourselves on the back when we had 200,000 dead as opposed to 2 million.
And, you know, while we got the, much like with the vaccine,
while we got antivirals in place, same exact playbook.
You remember that ad, Drew?
I mean, you're older than me, but we might remember that same ad.
If you have sex with someone, you're not just having sex with them.
You're having sex with everyone they've ever had sex with.
I was in my eight years to ten years old at the time.
I've remembered that ad ever since.
It led to a life of celibacy um monogamy
and um you know low body care they say so it might it might have done good but uh no i i grew
up thinking like you know you could get it from sitting on a toilet seat and i i still yeah no no
see we were fighting that and oh there was so much craziness um so caleb how are we doing with
adam is he just giving up which is what he tends to do
if things don't work the way he wants it to?
We're trying three other different ways.
I just plugged your phone in, Drew.
Can you plug your phone into that dongle and call him back?
Just going to throw this out there as the remote producer.
But Drew, sometimes your phone announces people's phone numbers
when they call. So just make sure it doesn't do that when adam calls because i can't
i can't mute you from here why don't i just call him i'll mute him just call him back
okay hold on it's no there's no phone number announced it's good you should be on the air
there yeah i i literally i had to find the plug but i found all right all right you're on the air
we got you you gotta let me do this when this happens so um we've been having a lot yeah
so we can't hear adam all right take your time you
you can't worry about it you can't hear him? You can't hear him, Caleb?
No, we can't hear him.
No, I think you've got to put the phone to the mic.
We hear him here.
Our whole system has him.
Yeah.
You can hold it to that mic if that's better.
Why wouldn't he be on here?
This is exactly how we do it.
Grab that mic over there.
I'll just do it on this mic.
It's alright.
I don't know why it doesn't go through.
I could hear it.
It's just his name.
Caleb, you can't get the feed from the road
with the phone?
He has to hang up with his sister.
Oh.
What the hell?
There we go. Just plug it in. Just plug it in, Drew. He has to hang up with his sister. Oh, what the hell? What the hell?
There we go.
Just plug it in.
Just plug it in, Drew, and it should work now.
Yeah, yeah.
I think I fixed it.
Sorry, all those of you that are watching this right here.
This is interesting.
Calling back.
Yeah, this is how it works with him.
Yeah.
This is how we do it.
I've done a few interviews just holding the phone straight to the mic so that
people can hear.
Yeah, me too.
I've done that too.
Let me see if I can get.
I love how he jumps on the phone with his sister while he's supposed to be
dialing into us.
Not his sister, his assistant.
Oh, his assistant.
Let's see.
Now he's driving around Malibu, which probably has horrible service.
Could be.
Oh, we've got a whole bunch of people on Twitter ready to hear from Adam.
Okay.
10,000 people over there.
D.D. Tudor.
He's coming on now if I can get him to pick up his phone.
Why aren't we hearing from him?
What I did like about Adam Carolla's method with Gavin Newsom,
it's very much the Socratic method.
He just keeps asking questions,
and then Gavin Newsom eventually digs himself
into a very deep pool of...
Yeah, he just caves.
He just caves.
Try again, honey.
I'm trying.
Is your phone on the Wi-Fi in here?
Yeah.
Calling mobile.
I think he's not going to pick up,
is what I think. 14, 000 people over there well sorry i know
you all want to hear adam it's i've never had this many people watching on x at the same time
well we appreciate you out there on twitter reverse so um what was the other thing i wanted
to just text him tell you to call him tell him to call you back oh there we heard see i heard
we heard your phone so if you just get him on, we'll hear him.
This is not going to work, guys.
It will. It's not going to work.
So frustrating.
My apologies to everybody listening.
Did you know we have a closed caption on YouTube?
I'm just noticing that.
That's good.
Who's in that picture?
Me and Drew.
Believe it or not, that is us.
Before we were married.
35 years ago.
Can you flip that back up for five more seconds?
Why?
To torture us?
Oh my. Susan, it's not so much you it's drew now now i see it holy cow 30 years old yeah holy cow
we i just can't get reception here oh here we go This is going to cut out.
I just know it.
And he's going to be Adam's phone.
He's not going to pick up.
What the hell?
Well,
what do you mean?
What the hell?
This is how he is.
So I'm not even slightly.
He can get zoomed to work.
So we decided to leave,
just leave the house.
And like, I'll remind you, I got up to, or we decided to just leave the house.
I'll remind you, I got up to Aura.
Here he is calling me.
Okay, answer.
All right, do we have you?
Make sure he knows he's live. I do, but I might be able to call that Zoom thing.
No, no, you're live.
You're live.
We got you on the air.
We're all good.
Can you hear him, Caleb?
Do you hear us on your end, Viva?
Yeah.
Do you want more volume?
Viva, do you hear me?
I hear Adam. Okay, good. So I've got Viva? Yeah. Do you want more volume? Viva, do you hear me? I hear Adam.
Okay, good.
So I've got Viva Frye in here too, Adam.
Viva looked at your interview in 2013 with Newsom when he said that, what was his bumper sticker that he loved so much?
You're not in traffic. You are traffic.
That particular review.
Yeah.
He missed that part, though.
He did see you going.
He also missed the part that's not going on Twitter right now
is the part where he talked about the check cashing facilities.
Can you just review that with us?
Make sure I got it correct.
He didn't like. Well, hi, Viva.
What's Viva's title?
Viva Frye attorney.
He's an attorney. My real name is David Frye Height.
David Frye Height's his real name.
He's got a podcast with Barnes, Viva Barnes Law.
And Viva's actually Canadian, but he lives in Florida.
He's a, what would you call yourself?
You're fleeing the excesses of the Canadian, yeah, refugee.
There you go.
An aspiring Floridian.
All right.
So he wanted to put an end to predatory check cashing license. That was Gavin Newsom's mission statement
from 2013. I don't think he's
gotten much done, but he also explained that homelessness was his number
one issue in 2013 as well. So it's not been
wildly effective. But our big famous argument started
is when he was explaining that the predatory check
cashing places preyed on black and Hispanics
and then I started asking questions and he started
explaining that they don't have access to a checking account
which is, by the way, the bastardization of language, you know, no access.
It's like saying, you know, when they go, these people in the inner city, they don't have access to healthy food.
They have access to eggs and apples and celery.
They do have access to it.
They choose not to ingest it, but they have access to it. They have access to checking they choose not to ingest it but they have access to it they have access to checking
accounts and oatmeal and all the good things in life they just don't do it yeah it's like it's
like when you went what was it that hobby lobby place didn't give uh didn't pay for earth control
pills as part of their government company policy and that became preventing access
of women to health care that was denying access denying access another language thing denying
access yes well you know what i used to say i go listen um i do not provide lunch for my employees
but i do not deny them access to get lunch.
They want to go
buy themselves lunch, they can buy lunch.
It's the same as the Hobby Lobby thing.
You want to be on birth control,
you can be on birth control. They don't
pay for it. That's all.
Denied access.
God, it's
crazy what these pussies have turned
into. It's so weird and sad and's crazy what these policies have turned into.
It's so weird and sad and weak.
Yeah, but Adam, it's the most, I've always said it's the most fundamentally racist thing to say.
Like you're saying these predatory practices only impacts two demographics and it seems
to be only two demographics that they pick on.
And when it comes to voting and they say voter IDs is racist because somehow they think that black Americans can't get voter IDs.
And yet somehow ID requirements to buy alcohol is not racist.
Or do they have to admit that they're racist when it comes to that?
But they don't care as much to allow black people to buy alcohol without without ID because they don't gain politically from that.
Now, it seems that Adam Crowell
has gone into it.
Oh, you didn't hear him.
He said that he said
it's something you've said too, is that one of the most
racist policies is
saying that African Americans
can't get access to IDs
for instance, but they seem to get access to
IDs to buy alcohol, but they don't care about
that.
Yeah, I know. Obviously, these are all racist but they seem to get access to IDs to buy alcohol, but they don't care about that. Yeah.
I know.
They're all,
obviously these are all racist thoughts because they're treating black
people like they're kids or animals or something.
It's really,
it's the most pathetic,
saddest,
most kind of insidious version of racism is really just thinking the person's not up to
whatever the challenge of life is, as if you could live in modern society without an ID.
But I would argue, look, we don't let felons in prison vote, right?
I mean, you can lose your right to vote.
If you do not possess an ID, then you should be not allowed to vote because you do not participate in society.
What can you do in modern society without an ID?
And the answer is nothing. So you do not participate in society. in modern society without an ID?
And the answer is nothing.
So you do not participate in society.
And so you shouldn't, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
It'll work itself out.
If you do not physically have an ID and you do not want to obtain an ID,
then you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
And Adam, Viva is up in Canada right now uh i wonder if you have any
questions about the the great uh canadian government and how the canadians up there
are feeling about it presently well i've been saying for a while canada's about five years
ahead of california in terms of circling the fucking toilet drain.
If you really think about it, Justin Trudeau,
in a way, he's a pure version
of Gavin Newsom. He's kind of
a bullion cube of Gavin Newsom. He's a little
more Gavin Newsom than Gavin Newsom even
is. So good fucking luck, Canada.
And I assume they're going to try to get that guy out of there and get back
to some semblance of normality. But I have
no idea what Canada's doing. I have no idea why.
And look, but I say the same thing about California.
I don't know what the people are doing here.
I don't know what happened to them.
But if they vote for asswipes like Trudeau or Newsom,
then they just deserve what they get at a certain point.
Anybody have any comment on that?
Well, I'll see.
I may have to repeat the question, but go ahead and ask it.
Go ahead.
Yeah, because Adam might not hear it.
But up in Canada, we have to show
two pieces of ID, and we write,
you know, we vote with a ballot, with a
pencil, and so very racist.
The racism
is its soft bigotry of low
expectations. When they wanted to
ban menthol cigarettes, it was
to protect black Americans, because
black Americans like to smoke menthol cigarettes.
Trudeau's come up and is coming up like he won't be in power if he's even the leader of the party within a year.
But he's done a great job at really tanking Canada in his eight years of terror, nine years of terror now.
So, Adam, could you hear what he said?
I cannot hear a word Viva says, Drew.
He commented on the eight years of terror that Trudeau has bought upon the Canadians
that he will not be in power within the year,
and that he wanted to point out the Canadian government is exquisitely racist
because they require two forms of ID and they fill out their ballots with a pencil.
And then he was also pointing out that the check cashing stuff
and the no ID is really the most condescending.
What word used, Kviva?
Condescending racism?
Soft bigotry.
Soft bigotry of low expectations.
Soft bigotry.
It's not even soft.
Soft bigotry of low expectations, he says.
It's bigotry.
It's severe bigotry.
Ask Adam a question for me.
Has Adam left California? Hold on a second, Adam. He's going to leave. He's a severe big a dream. Ask Adam a question for me. Has Adam left California yet?
Hold on a second, Adam. He's going to leave. He's going to leave. He has not left yet.
Why?
No, because I say that at the end of the day, people have to vote with their feet and vote
with their dollar. I mean, it's right. You get what you vote for, but the problem is sometimes
so do other people. And I didn't vote for Trudeau. I don't deserve that. And I'm not
going to live with that.
Everybody keep an eye on France, I'm telling you.
Le Pen got 46% of the vote.
And what's happening over there is the left is freaking out,
saying it's the end of the world.
Exact same stuff that's said about Trump is being said about Le Pen.
The end of democracy, barbarians at the gate.
And the press is totally different in France.
They're going, barbarians at the gate.
We know what that is.
The Germans came on in.
What are you talking about?
And then no democracy?
They're like 46% of French people voted.
They expressed the will of the people.
They want this woman and they want her party.
What do you mean no democracy?
It's so odd to watch their press behave like that compared to what goes on here.
Adam? so odd to watch their press behave like that compared to what goes on here adam well they do well remember when uh what's his name in hungary got voted in and we had to do the whole far right
extremist you know mega sensitive you know whatever because he wants a border he wants
hungarians and he doesn't want a bunch of muslim over Budapest, you know. It's interesting how the press can be sort of universal.
I mean, theirs has woken up, but the press sort of drifted left, became left, and just sort of drifted left became left and and just sort of anybody it's kind of interesting how our
press reports anybody in any other country that does anything contrary to what they would do
is just far right extremist it's kind of telling yeah if you if you think about it well i i mean it's telling but it's
it's it's again this this distortion of language is what you started out with denying access
no access to this no access they're taking language and using it as a a cudgel and it's
having an effect it's a and you know k viva adam's mom was uh very much like your
canadian compatriot she she definitely had the same kind of feel and look as so many canadians
i saw particularly in victoria british columbia and so adam was reared on this bs early and often
uh adam you want to educate Viva on what you witnessed growing up?
People that hated this country but also kind of hated themselves simultaneously and realized that they couldn't compete in a meritocracy,
so they wanted to kind of tear down the the system that they they failed in
you know if they had an ounce of success and and and a work ethic and some ability
they wouldn't feel this way they just they wanted chaos because they were failing students who couldn't excel and wanted the system to go away.
Because they languished in the system because they were narcissists who wouldn't put the effort in.
So they blamed the system instead of looking in the mirror.
Tell the story about the champagne.
That's the one that I thought was most telling about what really is going on in her head. Well, now keep in mind, while they're blaming the system, they're constantly talking about
the poor people.
They're basically virtue signaling.
It's a lot more of it is race-based now, but back then it was just the poor people, you
know, and not having enough and people aren't doing enough.
You know, it was lots of talk about what the government needed to do for the poor people.
And sort of by implication, they were the good ones because they cared and they spoke about the people all the time.
But they're really cheap and they're selfish and wanted free stuff. My mom loved champagne.
Well, you know, we'd go to Trader Joe's and buy a $3 bottle of champagne. She would never
buy herself a bottle of Dom Perignon or good champagne. But once in a while I would bring over a good bottle of champagne and on Mother's Day
many years ago I did go and bring a good bottle of champagne to her and the only people who were
there for Mother's Day was my mother, my sister, her mother, and my mother's husband, and myself.
And at some point, my mother did what she always does. She said, oh, Adam, do you think we could
have some of your delicious Dom Perignon champagne? And I said, well, don't ask me,
because that's your gift. That's your Mother's Day gift. So if you'd like to have
some, by all means, open it up. And she took
the bottle and she hid it under a sweater.
Now, she wanted
champagne and the only people there were her kids
and her mom and her husband.
But the point is that she wanted champagne,
but she wanted someone else's champagne.
And even though the champagne was free to her, it was now hers.
And now she was going to have to share her champagne.
That wasn't going to happen. have to share her champagne from other people.
And that wasn't going to happen.
That wasn't going to happen. But she did talk
a lot about people that didn't have stuff and people needed
Look, when the
Obamas talk about giving more
and when you have, certainly you have enough money and you need enough
stuff. what house are
they on sixth mansion seventh mansion how many netflix hundred million dollar deals do they need
to sew up what what are they talking about when is it enough right yeah it's weird to me listen
i listen i'm all for everyone making as much as they want.
Just spare us the fucking lecture.
That's all.
My mom could do whatever she wanted with her bottle of champagne.
But spare me the lecture about giving back and generosity and, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I feel the same way about the Obamas and the Bidens and all of them.
Just shut up.
You guys do nothing but buy
multi-million dollar houses.
So stop all the discussions
about when are you going to have enough
or you didn't build that business yourself
or whatever it is you're saying this week.
What's that, Viva?
I was going to say, first of all,
they buy multi-million dollar mansions
on lowlands that are susceptible
to flooding despite climate change.
But does Adam still talk with his mom?
I'm noticing some tension there.
She's passed away.
But he's asking if you still – Adam, he'll have to be invited back to do an hour on his mom.
Because I have been working with Adam since 1996.
And most days his mom comes up.
She's an example of a lot of things for us.
She reminds me very vividly of the Victorian British Columbians.
I recognize that quality right away, which is that underlying seething selfishness and aggression and things,
but all the rhetoric on the surface is about getting along and giving.
Well, it's the virtue for the self
of self-aggrandizing,
where they say like,
oh yes, I support trans rights and kids,
but not my kids.
Yes, virtue for self-aggrandizement, he says.
It's some...
I'm telling you.
And also just...
Yes, he does.
Yes.
And...
Talk about giving back.
It's basically
these these it's ellen dancing at the beginning of her show you know what i mean she's a mean angry woman whose staff is scared shitless of her you know what i'm saying but she's dancing because
nice people would dance right right right right so that's how it works all right adam i'll let
you go i I appreciate you spending
a little time with us.
And Viva, any last questions
before I send him off?
No, I love the comment
that said Adam is now wondering
if I actually exist
or you're actually just talking
with yourself, Drew.
I will meet Adam one day.
All right, Viva looks forward
to meeting you, Adam.
We'll talk soon.
Yes, thank you.
Take care.
Adam Cole, you can check him out on acs
i don't know why we couldn't get viva's sound to adam that was that is weird but you know why
because he was this way he was only on the phone because he could hear me talking oh he's going
through the phone wait but the your mic's going through the phone i don't know i don't know that's
a whatever inner workings at least you know i'll talk about him one day but what i wanted to what i wanted to highlight you know about the name
calling and the demonizing and like in france everybody who votes for for le pen is far right
everyone who votes for christine anderson in all you know they're far right uh they they you know
once the word nazi has a bad history The word nationalistic is not inherently wrong.
And I would say being a globalist is inherently wrong.
And not respecting your own nation, your own nation's history, and your own nation's borders is inherently wrong.
But they do the same trick over and over again by controlling language, by discrediting people and not ideas.
And the ultimate irony, it's the kick in the teeth in Canada.
The dude that's calling me racist is the one who dressed in blackface more times than he can count the dude calling me a misogynist is the one who
allegedly groped a reporter back in the year 2000 fired his first native american female
justin trudeau who fired uh jody wilson rabel the first woman uh minister of justice the guy
calling me the anti-semite is talking about uh immigration policies that are going to have a
nefarious impact on minority communities in Canada.
They are everything that they accuse others of, but they control language.
And more importantly, they control the media, which is exactly how they astroturf and brainwash an entire population to thinking, yeah, the truckers were the racist ones, not Justin Trudeau himself.
Yeah. Yeah.
When I was listening to a psychoanalyst that was talking about
narcissist and he i've repeated this over and over again he said whenever you hear narcissist saying
you are you should hear immediately i am he's saying i am not you are it's a projection all
these projections again that the gaslighting you're gaslighting me yeah i i know and there
are actually people calling for that now they're they seen two. I saw an academic and another representative saying Obama, the only chance now is if they killed certain people that they want to kill the Supreme Court justices. They want hope they keep a record of people that are saying this
not only is it seeming to me illegal to do it but that's not my my you know point to say but uh it
should be a profound embarrassment that this record is out there you're saying it publicly
it's just it is wild drew you know what the really this is a sign of the times this is one of my
revelations or thoughts the other day it's like all right, I follow Twitter a lot and there's people issuing what are overt threats. And then people like, oh, I'm going to tag the those people to carry out other acts that would other
otherwise uh you know justify the fbi saying now we need more fbi agents because these radical people
are carrying out acts of violence like that's how cynical i've gotten but it's reality and these
these yeah they're calling for the assassination oh but it's just i'm just illustrating the
absurdities of the argument no you're not and what you are doing is dog whistling and giving
the political permission slip to the types of people who show up to a Republican baseball game
and shoot up the field because they've been brainwashed to thinking this is an existential
threat against the bodies of their wives and daughters. I mean, it is brainwashing in real
time. And I think it is part of a psychological operation. I don't think there's much doubt about that. But look, we need to have a political revolution.
So your position is the reason things have gotten so crazy
is because of intelligence ops using this new technology
of social media and the internet.
Does that summarize what you're saying?
Well, at the risk of sounding crazy,
history doesn't
repeat but it tends to rhyme and once you understand what the government has done in
terms of mind control thought control mk ultra operations operation mockingbird it's like it
sounds crazy i mean maybe it doesn't sound crazy to you but it'll sound crazy to other people like
oh yeah the intelligence is weaponizing social media to recruit people to carry out acts of violence when you find out every uh mass shooter or every terrorist that was on the
fbi's watch list and somehow they slipped through and when you find out how intelligence has
recruited and and and played with people's minds um in order to get them to carry out acts of
violence so they can then say look we need more resources once you know what the fbi the cia and
intelligence has done you can see it happening and it's like it's it's playing in your face the the media
brainwashing when it comes to covid was an operation and we now know in canada you know like
disclosed papers the government saw the pandemic as a great opportunity for the military to test
propaganda on canadians it was an operation the death count chyrons were not by accident.
It was an operation to manipulate the public
into full compliance and full submission.
And so I look at some of these accounts on Twitter
and I'm like, these are Fedboy accounts
and I may or may not ever get proven right,
but I know what I believe.
Viva, let's leave it there.
I think you've dropped some bombs
for people to think about and chew on.
You said when you leave us, you're going to be doing what now?
Are you going to do another thread
on something? I'm going to go into my
car. I'm going to shoot a vlog in the car, maybe
go live with our locals community.
I have a moment of solitude
because my wife has the kids. I've got nothing
but a dog upstairs. Probably
crapped all over the house. No, I i'm gonna go do a quick vlog dissecting dissecting the um what's happening
in new york because people are like feigning outrage oh my goodness trump is so lucky then
he's not going to get sentenced it's only lucky if you don't understand what's going on once you
understand what's going on you could have predicted this about six months ago as we did so uh that's
what i'm gonna go do and then i'm gonna go grill a steak because I'm hungry. All right, my friend, talk to you soon.
Thank you for having me. Always a pleasure. As I've told you where you can get him,
it is vivafry.com. It's at vivafry on Twitter and vivabarneslaw is where you can get the
podcast they do. So coming up, we're going to have a happy fourth for everybody.
So happy birth date for the country, or at least for the Declaration of Independence,
which according to Abraham Lincoln is when the country was born, which was the notion
that all men are created equal.
Even though we've had difficulty living up to that, we are still founded on that principle.
And then next week, you see, I can't quite see it because I had to move my camera.
Michael, I can't print it.
I'll find it here.
Caleb, you want to repeat the names for me since I can't quite see it.
July 9th, we have five times August.
Oh, you see now.
There you go.
Yep.
Yep, I see it now.
And my friend Howard, who was a vaccine injured, we're getting an update from him on how he's been going into severe vaccine injury
instantly after taking the vaccine.
Dave Rubin in studio on July 10th.
And then we have an early show on the 11th with Michael Farquhar,
I think his name, and he is a teacher and actually a school administrator who had some interesting
ideas about educating kids.
And you see the rest. Dave Smith
coming in on July 23rd. And Dr. Kelly
is going to make a few appearances here coming up.
Dave Smith on July 23rd, yeah.
Yeah, it's going to be great.
I don't think he's coming in yet. I think he's doing it by
Zoom. But again,
we appreciate you guys being a part of the show.
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before I wrap it up?
No.
Okay. I mean... Just, no.
We appreciate you. We appreciate you being here. I'm good.
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We are creating this for you.
So we are delighted that you're here.
Unless you want to talk about my psychic medium show
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What's that, Caleb?
Oh yeah, I just wanted to show currently right now,
I wanted to shout out to all the people watching on Rumble
because at the moment we are the number one podcast
streaming on Rumble at the moment.
It says at the top there.
Yay!
Thanks for watching.
And 15,000 people over on X.
So we're very grateful to all our X followers.
It's it we're, we're out of X jail.
So the algorithm is pushing us out there.
And Rumble has been a great,
great organization to work with.
So pay attention to everybody, be safe,
enjoy yourselves and have a great fourth.
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