Ask Dr. Drew - After mRNA, 84% Increase In Cardiac Death, says FL Dept. Of Health + YOUR Calls – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 134

Episode Date: October 15, 2022

Florida's Department of Health issued startling new guidance for mRNA vaccines, claiming an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related deaths in males within 28 days. Dr. Drew discusses their analysis & answers your calls on ANY topic: politics, censorship, health, relationships, and anything you'd like to discuss. 「  LINKS FROM THIS EPISODE: https://drdrew.com/10112022 」 Dr. Drew discusses the recent guidance from the Florida Department of Health, which stated that they "conducted an analysis through a self-controlled case series, which is a technique originally developed to evaluate vaccine safety. This studied mortality risk following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination. This analysis found there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination. Individuals with preexisting cardiac conditions, such as myocarditis and pericarditis, should take particular caution when considering vaccination and discuss with their health care provider." 「 SPONSORED BY 」 • BIRCH GOLD - Don’t let your savings lose value. You can own physical gold and silver in a tax-sheltered retirement account, and Birch Gold will help you do it. Claim your free, no obligation info kit from Birch Gold at https://birchgold.com/drew • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get 10% off with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. Hundreds of millions of people have received a COVID-19 vaccine, and serious adverse reactions are uncommon. Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician and Dr. Kelly Victory is a board-certified emergency specialist. Portions of this program will examine countervailing views on important medical issues. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 ABOUT the SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 GEAR PROVIDED BY 」 • BLUE MICS - Find your best sound at https://drdrew.com/blue • ELGATO - See how Elgato's lights transformed Dr. Drew's set: https://drdrew.com/sponsors/elgato/ 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 For over 30 years, Dr. Drew has answered questions and offered guidance to millions through popular shows like Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Dr. Drew On Call (HLN), Teen Mom OG (MTV), and the iconic radio show Loveline. Now, Dr. Drew is opening his phone lines to the world by streaming LIVE from his home studio. Watch all of Dr. Drew's latest shows at https://drdrew.tv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome, everybody. We're going to be taking your calls today off Twitter spaces. Some interesting things going on out there in the world, and I'll be happy to answer your questions about it. Of course, the Florida Surgeon General has raised concerns about vaccinating young males. And of course, we've been talking about that on this show, the Wednesday show, particularly for quite some time. It is a concern. Exactly what position people should be taking on is still an evolving, it's like a moving target. And I've noticed that there's a video on Twitter circulating around two things, me talking a year and a half ago and then me speaking now. And yeah, before I was quite a bit more enthusiastic about the universal application of vaccine. Now I've got some concerns, but I still recommend it

for my elderly patients. It has clearly helped there. 22-year-old male athlete, that's a different story. 45-year-old female, not pregnant, not planning on having kids. Okay. We'll see. Particularly, are there any medical risks, what they call co-occurring disorders with that? But anyway, we'll get to all that and your questions. Get on Twitter spaces, raise your hand. By raising your hand, you agree to be out on all the platforms we stream on. We'll see you in a minute. I'll be watching you on Restream and the Rumble Rants. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous.

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The Vicon, of course. I do have a lot more to say, and of course, I'll answer your questions as well. And Susan and I have been touring around the country a little bit this last weekend. We were in Florida and then Colorado. And it's kind of intriguing to me how this country is almost becoming 50 different countries. The difference between Florida, California, and Colorado are enormous. It's really kind of striking to me how different these states are and how different the cultures are becoming. I would not by any stretch call things going on here in california better than in other places and quite quite the contrary susan you agree with me on this no i mean i liked florida right florida was free they were feeling free and people were thriving coming back to life people were

happy and exactly right even after the hurricane and sorry about and by the way the hurricane we've now been to florida the hurricane hit a tiny swath of Florida. It did some damage. It damaged when it hit, when the eye hit it over Fort Myers, that was a catastrophe. In that area, they made it, the media made it seem like Florida was the catastrophe.

No, it was not, it was not. We were in regions, we were the whole southern area, you could not tell that anything had happened at all. Somebody's asking questions about the – It's so crazy how it just hits small areas. Well, I mean, it's – It just zooms right through. That's right.

And good thing Tom Cigars is okay. Tom Cigars is okay, everybody. BC Side says the L.A. City Council meeting was wild. I'm sure of that. For those of you that don't know, we had three L.A. City Council members who proved themselves to be racist, you know, really racist people. Again, whenever people are accusing other people of being racist, I always think people that I know aren't racist are being accused of being racist. I wonder if that person is doing the accusation is just projecting.

Lo and behold, we definitely know that to be true our la county board of supervisor president and two other board of supervisors out of control racism and misogyny and just really sort of disgusting thinking and talk even back for backstage conversation it was it was ridiculous and now the president united states has called upon them to resign although they have not done so in spite of extreme pressure from the community here in los angeles uh i... We should call Catherine Barger on that. Yeah, it might be interesting to get her on. So we have 178 people over on Twitter spaces, so just so you know. Okay, I'll get to the calls in a second.

Drew, I actually, I think it just came in breaking news a few minutes ago that one of the, the president of the LA City Council just resigned. Okay, so that was... At least one. What's her name? Nuri? Nuri.

Sorry, I said Nuri last time. Nuri. Yeah, so that is good. That's appropriate. Look, I think this country, this city particularly, this county is just waking up to the fact that our government is completely incompetent. The basic, I mean, everybody, this is what we didn't see in Florida.

We saw government functioning. Here, basic functions, water, safety, transportation, the delivery of goods and services, keeping the supply chain, nothing, zero. What got me going, I saw an article about the, this and this, I didn't tell you this, I tweeted this. It was an article that was written about the engineering firm who was supposed to give us our fast rail train. So California had a good idea. We're going to put a fast train from Los Angeles to San Francisco. Well, it ended up being from Bakersfield to Fresno. They never laid down one track and they spent $71 billion. And the engineering company who was working on it was so disgusted that in 2018 they went to Morocco

because that was a functioning government in North Africa and built a fast rail for them. That's California, everybody. It fires. They don't do forestry. They don't seemingly strike back. But I don't want to do too much of that today. I want to get to your calls.

That's what I want to get to. Yeah, he does it all day long every day. So to, I hope that's not true. But Tom Cigar is likely. I just got off two planes with you and spent four days in a row. Well, because being in Florida and Colorado sort of, it brought it to the fore for me. It made me think about it. It does frustrate you though. And I, you know, I wish there was something we could do. Well, when you see people thriving and you know how close it is for people who live in this country to thrive again, we could be right there. It literally is our—somebody—so somebody—I just saw a cool quote that said, a nation of sheep beget a government of wolves.

And that, to me, is a really interesting statement. But let me take your calls in any event. We can talk about COVID. We put as the headline, I was going to talk a little bit about myocarditis and the Florida Surgeon General. I have humongous respect and admiration for that Florida Surgeon General. I suggest you all take a look at him, look at what he's been saying. He's an extremely bright physician who knows what he's talking about. Now, he may not be always correct. He put up an article that has been sort of roundly criticized because it wasn't peer-reviewed, and it was sort of a, I suspect it was kind of a preprint. And at its core, it relied on ICD-9 codes. There it is.

ICD-9 codes from hospitalization, which are notoriously inaccurate. He says they went back and checked the records. Now, okay. And there were not comparisons. There were not controls. There was a lot of problems with the study. But it did show, and again, it wasn't able to ferret out how much was from COVID and how much was from vaccine, but it showed a marked increase in myocarditis and pericarditis in young males. There's no doubt that's happening, right? Even though I in California can't say it, because in California,

we have a law called AB 2098 that prevent doctors from discussing medical literature that is of concern, that has some deviation from the standard of care as issued by the CDC as it pertains to COVID. We're not allowed to present that to our patients, so we literally can't do informed consent any longer. But I will tell you for sure, a lot of physicians are very concerned about myocarditis, pericarditis. I myself realize that I'm seeing an extraordinary amount of what are called supraventricular tachycardias, way more than I've seen in the past in young males, which may be part of this whole syndrome. Again, COVID vaccine, I don't know, but lots of cardiac muscle and electromechanical issues that seem completely disproportionate to the pre-COVID era. Again, young males,

almost without exception. There's a world of electrophysiology where they go in and they map out, they put a wire into the heart, and they map out where the abnormal rhythm is coming from, and then they burn that area to try to take it away so it doesn't cause this abnormal source of a problematic rhythm. I've seen more. I bet you, I've not seen it in the medical literature, but I bet you that the electrophysiologists are seeing way more of this than they have in the past. And, of course, POTS syndrome.

My friend Heather McDonald passed out, fractured a skull. It seems that Bob Saget had the same syndrome. Now, he had had COVID a few weeks before, could have been from COVID versus the vaccine. He also had had the vaccine. I don't know. But if you, you know, a young person get the vaccine, fainting, cardiac arrhythmias, myocarditis, pericarditis,

fatigue, much like from long COVID, we're seeing it from the vaccine too. Again, what is that incidence? I'm not saying, I'm not saying it's common. I'm not saying you should be afraid of it. I'm saying, is it more common than the complications of COVID itself? That is the question that needs to be answered. And that was not answered by the Florida Surgeon General's paper.

That's some of the criticism. I tweeted his response and some of the critiques. If you follow me on Twitter, you'll find them. They were across the weekend. I tweeted those things. some of the critiques. If you follow me on Twitter, you'll find them. They were across the weekend I tweeted those things. They were very good. They were very thoughtful. And both sides were reasonable discussing science the way we always have. Nothing different than usual. We just back and forth, criticize each other. Look, Karl Popper really is a famous philosopher that pointed out that disproving is what science is all about. It has to be theories that can be disproven. That's at their basis.

And it's our job to try to disprove them until they stand up to that scrutiny. And then we declare them a theory, not a fact, a theory. We're always trying to get as close to the truth as possible. Let me briefly, before I go to calls, look at what's going on here. Yeah, somebody says Google died suddenly. Yes, we, listen, we discussed this with Ed Dowd. If you want to see the, was it from two weeks ago, Caleb? Oh yeah, I think it was actually last week. I can find it find it it's on the website they can find it easily so so this is the analysis i put up of uh dr kristin pathangian am i saying that right and it was a good one it's a good thread and then the next morning the floor i also also retweeted the florida surgeon general he responded to it with another long thread that was quite well thought

out quite good and so what do we know? We don't know yet. This is how science works. We don't know for sure yet. We're trying to figure it out. In the meantime, the standard of care remains the standard of care but may not stay the standard of care. It may be different for young males. Many, many countries right now are taking it away from young people

because Omicron is less risky and better immunity than the vaccine so lots of countries are following suit with uh with uh lots of countries are following suit with uh these these concerns taking away the mrna for young people i'm laughing susan because um um our friend i'm blanking shoot my she absolutely shut my brain off cat cat tim tweeted me something very important about teen mom i can't i can't repeat it because i and i don't want to i don't want to divulge she knows everything that's going on with the teen mom women before anybody else so i don't want to so i just she just sent something to me all right let's take your call oh i thought she put it on Twitter. No, no, no.

She texted me with it. Oh my God. She's freaked out. She said tweet. I'm sorry. Let's get. Yeah, teen mom. Yes, that's coming up.

Let's get, let's see. That is Brandon in here. Yep. I'm going to get Brandon here. Brandon. I'm going to give you a second. Yeah, I'm here. I'm here.

I'm here. What's going on? Well, tested positive for COVID this morning. Yep. No. Good times. Yep. Good times.

The funny part about it is I contacted the doctor, and they gave me normal medication. Aldehydratorol. Yeah. Basically, Mucinex, nasal spray, anti-cough, and it works great. Yeah, that's what I used.

It was good. Yeah, that's... Yeah, it comes better. Why are they not doing that? No, they are. People are, particularly for young people, because it ends up being like a cold

or a bronchitis. Oh, my God. Right. So here's the other things they would do. Sometimes they're using Zithromax, which again, we don't know what the hell that's doing, but people are using them. People are also using inhaled corticosteroids. So it's another inhaler other than the beta-2 agent, which you got. Both are fine. They're also using Decadron and they're using Paxlovid.

And there was a big study on Molnupiravir, which is another antiviral like Paxlovid, did not look so great. That study did not make Molnupiravir look good. The previous data was much, much better. Yeah, the Paxlovid, they're saying for more... Sick. Older and sicker. I took a survey.

I took a survey. Older and sicker. Yeah, I took a... Right, and I'm 42, so. Yeah. But I was just impressed that it's like, oh, this works really well. Why haven't they been doing this all along?

They have. But again, if they just talked about simple measures, it wouldn't keep the panic going, Brandon. We have to worry about monkey pox if something simple like an inhaled beta-2 agent works for this. You know what I'm saying? I've been listening to you dr drew and adam forever so since i was he basically first started so uh yeah i've been listening this whole thing um you're yeah they're still pushing me to get a vaccine oh and i will do not now the even the cdc weight says wait three or four months so at at least do that. Well, definitely now, but even before that,

I've dealt with, I've had two AFib disasters in the last two years. Uh-oh. I don't want it. Trust it. Had you had any vaccine? No. Alright, so you're in a special category. You already have an arrhythmic problem,

atrial fibrillation which is another abnormal rhythm of the atria and the heart causes strokes and things it's a serious thing in a young person and uh is there anything you should worry about when he has covered because of that uh yes and no uh the the yes is if i were taking care of him i would worry about it because thrombogenesis is the most serious problem with COVID. Again, the lining of our arteries and the platelet lipid system interact with the macrophages and are causing clots. And if you have atrial fibrillation, it seems to me it might be more risky than usual. So make sure that you're in the sinus rhythm.

If you're on some medication and maintain it as such, make sure you take that medication. You know what I find fascinating is when people get COVID or a head cold or whatever, they don't take anything. They just tough it out, or they don't try to dry up their sinuses and stop the cough. They never know what to do. You're right.

I mean, look, the inhalers are very effective. I like Dymatap. Dymatap is very... Just dry yourself up. Mucinex is not a drying agent. It's a thinning agent. Right. Because it does really get smotty in there.

But because drying can actually sometimes make sinusitis worse, it's actually not that routine to be using it if you have a stuffy nose but i'll tell you what hot showers work that's something that doctors never tell you hot or humidifier humidifier hot showers these things work like a son of a bitch uh we'll get laura in here i like dimetap and i know susan likes dimet, but she takes it all the time. Children's Dymatap. I don't drink it all the time. Shut up. You've got to listen to me.

Here's what I might say. Go ahead. Sheesh. All right. While we're waiting for Laura, let me see what you guys are asking. Lots of good questions I could tell. Stink Anderson.

Diagnosed HPV at 18. Should you still get the vaccine? I would. uh, uh, uh, stink. Anderson, uh, diagnosed HPV at 18. Should you still get the vaccine? I would personally, I know what your doctor says, but I would, uh, cause you look,

we're seeing so much head and neck cancer now. It's just terrible. It's all, it's all from HPV. Like we watch the Laura, I'll be right with you. Hold tight there. We watched Susan and I watched the Doors movie over the weekend,

and there's poor Val Kilmer who now talks through a tracheostomy and has had head and neck cancer because of HPV. It's something that can be completely avoided with a vaccine, so why would you, or at least nearly completely? He was so good in that movie. It made me sad. It made me sad thinking this vaccine, and this is another vaccine people argue over,

and it's just so obvious that people should take it. Well, they're telling like 40-year-old women to take it, you know, that are single. Very safe. Laura, what's going on? Hey, Dr. Drew. It's nice to talk to you. As well. What's happening? I am just dumbfounded.

I see a lot of specialists. I have a four-centimeter ascending aorta aneurysm. I have stage two non-alcoholic liver disease. I have so much stuff. Okay. So hold on. So hold on. How old are you? I am 61. Did you have hypertension, high blood pressure? Never. So what she's talking, maybe, Caleb, you can put up a picture of an aortic aneurysm. I'm 51. Did you have hypertension, high blood pressure? Never.

So what she's talking, maybe, Caleb, you can put up a picture of an aortic aneurysm. I'm imagining it doesn't get quite to your aortic valve, right? It's sort of above. It's in the arch, right? It is in the arch, yes. So you can look at, or maybe you want to, Caleb, put up their aortic aneurysms because there's different kinds. And she's talking about the more common one, which occurs, well, the less problematic one that occurs up on the arch. And you know, of course, that we really don't get very worried about them until they're five centimeters, right? Yes.

And I go every six months. I have several health issues. And during the two years of COVID, I had two adhesion removals for my abdomen from a ruin. Why I had in 2003, I know. Was that for, was the ruin? Why for gastric bypass kind of thing? Yes.

Okay. Right. So she had this, the, she had a, there's a no, no, no,

no thoracic aortic aneurysm. Sorry that those are not quite right. You're an a aortic aneurysm. Sorry, those are not quite right. Aortic arch aneurysm you want to look at. And she had a weight loss surgery, and there's a big, that's the big one. And, of course, you can get adhesions and small bowel obstructions, what's left over after any surgery like that. And now you have aortic arch aneurysm, which is, are you on a beta blocker? No, I'm not on any medicine at all.

We used to put people on beta blockers with that. And I always thought that was very effective. I noticed they don't do it so much anymore. Anyway, what's your question? So I have a lot of specialists that I see because of all these different things and never not once did any of them suggest that I get a COVID vaccine. Not one, which I wouldn't have. That's interesting. Yeah. If you asked, would they have said don't take it?

I don't know. I never asked because I was never going to take it. Are you still obese? Or is your weight down now? My weight is down now. And I did have COVID. You mentioned that you had non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. Why is that continuing if your weight's down?

I don't know. They did a biopsy. And it came back that that's what it was. Crazy. Well, maybe more weight loss just to try to get that you know better i don't know i talked i obviously i don't i don't know you but i'm just thinking out loud but so yeah when did you have covid i had covid in november we had a super spreader event for my granddaughter's fifth birthday and someone that had been exposed came, and then literally the entire family came down with COVID within the week.

So hold on. I'm going to interrupt you. I'm sorry. Kayla put a picture of an aorta up there. And the arch, the curvature part is where she has an aneurysm, meaning it's a weakening and swelling, like a bleb in a tire, that kind of thing. And it can blow. These can blow. And that's why they're dangerous.

But they don't really get dangerous until they're about five centimeters. The real problem with them is repairing them, and I don't want to scare you, but I'm going to say this out loud, it's one of the biggest operations you can have. It's a huge operation. And so we don't like to repair them unless we have to. But they're usually successful, but it's a big operation. Yeah, because I ask them. I go to the UPMC aorta.

They have an aorta aneurysm clinic. And I was like, well, we'll just get this done now. And he was like, well, no, not yours. Not anybody's. Not yours. Not anybody's until you have to, trust me. All right, so the question for me is what? Well, it wasn't really a question.

All of my doctors did think that if I got COVID, I would end up in the hospital. Yes. And so I took the eye medicine that we can't speak about. And literally within us, I never got really sick. I did have more gastric issues then. Yeah. I lost my taste and smell for about seven months. I had a cough the first day, chills first day.

I started that the first day along with all of the supplements that the FLCCC recommends. And I was negative in seven days. Well, good. I'm guessing this was Omicron because that had a lot of GI stuff and that was coming in right there in November, December. And good. I mean, it's great.

There was nothing much else to do, by the way, then. I mean, there was not a lot of really much else. I mean, Paxlovid is what really changed the game. And I don't think anybody would have given you that at that point. People are on the, thank you, Laura, people on the

restream talking about weight loss and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. Yes, yes, she knows that. She knows it, believe me. And sometimes things like diabetes and liver inflammation persist even when you correct everything metabolically, which is one of the odd, I don't think I fully understand that. It's one of the odd things about both those conditions uh okay let me go over to the rumble rants where i've been ignoring you guys i apologize susan have you been over there at all yeah i'm watching them anything that should be uh some they're talking they're going on about fake news i'm not quite sure what what's the fake news no you're not watching them? A little bit. And any questions? They're talking about a girl with big boobs. Yeah.

So predictable. It's funny. I'm not seeing that. I'm scrolling through the whole thing. So why did you pick up on that? Because I saw what they said. Well, maybe you can't. They like the people on the Twitter spaces.

Okay, good. Born with a large aorta. I think his drug use thought his life made it worse. Could be. Yep, that's true. And I don't know about born with a large aorta i think his drug use thought his life made it worse could be yep that's true and i don't know born with a large aorta that sounds very weird uh okay let me go back to your call you know what let's do this caleb uh maybe we'll take a little break now uh since we're right up against it and then i'll get back to the the uh request for callers we have plenty of hands up i'm gonna try to get to all you guys. And again, what you do is you just request to come up

and I'll bring you up sort of one at a time, just like we did with Laura, and give you a chance to talk. But recognize that if you do come up, you're streaming out on multiple platforms. It's not just on YouTube and it's not just on Twitter. So thank you for being here on Twitter Spaces. And if you have other topics you want me to talk about,

we can get further into the Florida Department department of health challenge to the vaccine mandates and i want to talk a little bit more if i remember here i'm going to write it down my evolution and what it means to be changing your opinions about things like covid and vaccines and paxlovid it's an evolving process. Back up to this. Consumer price index yet again going up. Stock market in turmoil. What's our government doing to quell the surge of inflation that is gutting American families? Oh yeah, they're spending more money

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Yep, I agree. I actually rub it everywhere. I do my arms. I do my legs. Those of you who are trolls, have at it. So anyway. Spread it around. Yeah.

So people are also catching up with the fact that Angela Lansbury passed away at the age of 96. Really a legend. If you look at her career, you're going to be shocked at how many amazing things she was involved with. Yeah, Dame. I guess she's a Dame in the British hierarchy. All right. And what are you laughing about, Susan? Jeff's going to buy some for his balls.

Good. Thank you for that. So let's get back to calls. We appreciate you guys being there, and Jeff's going to buy some for his balls. Good. Thank you for that. So let's get back to calls. I appreciate you guys being there, and we will try to get some calls here. Here we go. This is Mark, and let's see what Mark wants to ask us about. And again, while Mark is loading up here, I'm looking at you guys on the restream. No.

Yeah, there's a little lag but i am not seeing the data from uh stubble ben sorry uh he went away okay but i would urge you to listen to ed dowd whom uh i will tell you when that is from wednesday i don't think it was last week i think it was the week before wasn't it uh uh who do we have last give me one second yeah we had jim thorpe last week who also uh caleb i would think people were very moved by him as well uh boys ed dow was three weeks ago it's that was a killer show and he's not a doctor you know he's more a statistician he was uh the 21st of september he's a he's He's a financial guy, and he's used to analyzing systems. And YouTube is letting us keep it up, and we're actually getting ratings on it. Well, he's just reporting the excess deaths.

Now, he doesn't— Yeah, but usually they'd find something wrong with it and cut it off before we made any money. So here's a great example of how we need to evolve scientifically we've there's no question that there are excess deaths especially in a window when we expect to see after those excess deaths from a pandemic almost without exception what has followed is a period of time where there's diminished deaths for a period of time because the older people that were going to die died sooner and so that excess death curve drops down. Now it's gone up. Now the question is, is that related to fentanyl? Is that related to

suicide and depression? Is that related to something unidentified? We don't know. And so before everyone jumps to any conclusions, why that is not the absolute priority of most Western governments, all the governments, I don't understand. I just don't get it. They should be studying the shit out of that to figure out why people are dying at the same rate as during the pandemic when the pandemic has gone all the way down to an endemic level. It does not appear to be COVID infection related.

Now, some of it may be. The question is how much and why are we saying it's endemic if indeed we still have excess deaths? So there we go. Let's try to- Here's a question on Rumble from IED. Go ahead. We're not talking about balls or boots. Thank you. Good. Hey, Drew, is it true that SARS-CoV-2 virus would need to be isolated to produce an effective vaccine? Yes. I'm not quite sure what's in that question.

I mean, at least some parts of it have to be. You don't necessarily grow the virus, but you have to sequence parts of it. You know, okay. So somebody was taking issue, I think, on the restream with me calling any shot to stimulate the immune system a vaccine. That is a vaccine. Let's see what the actual, let's see what, say, dictionary.com. So I'm going to use, I'm going to say as

a convention, anything that stimulates the immune system to fight a future infection, I'm calling that a vaccine. I'm calling it that. Whether it's done with mRNA or a protein or whole virus or parts of viruses, I don't care. If it's stimulating a B-cell response and then a cellular immunity left in reserve, that's all I am concerned about.

I'm calling that a vaccine. Here it is. Any preventative measure used to stimulate the immune response against a specific disease. That's it. That's it. Period. Any measure. Not something that prevents infection.

Not something that prevents severe disease. Not something that prevents transmission. Anything that's used to stimulate the body's immune response. This is dictionary.com. So that has been my definition since I was in medical school. Maybe others have other definitions, but that has never been another definition for me. It's always been quite clear on that.

Yes, I call flu shots, flu vaccines 100%. They are vaccines stimulating the immune response to a future pathogen. Whether or not that pathogen actually develops the way we predicted, different story. We're trying to predict a specific illness and an immune response to it. That's a vaccine. In fact, Susan, we have to get our flu vaccines today. Yeah, I've got them in the refrigerator downstairs.

Douglas can give me mine. I trained my sons to give them to me. I won't do it.'t know she won't do it to me i can't do it uh look sally salty methods we just put the um vaccine definition from dictionary.com on the screen that's the definition period end of story there it is we're gonna even if you want to use another definition for our convention we are going to use this one from now on no more no more debates so uh the other thing was uh there's so there's this thing flying around twitter right now where my son put out a tweet in when he was working with us when he was working with me on social media he got me in trouble with the vaccines being mandated by other countries but

i still thought that was interesting. Well, we were doing Fox News every night, so we were kind of- Fox 11 here in Los Angeles. Hey, don't say Fox News. Yeah. No. And he was really,

he was helping us with our social media because we were all kind of- Busy. Stuck here during the pandemic, so he was working for us. but man, he could put out some great tweets. Cause I would put a tweet out and I'd make a typo and I'd take it down. And then they'd call it the Streisand effect. They took it down. I was like, no, I wrote something incorrectly. I don't want it. And you know, they have a new thing on Twitter now where you can,

you can pay money to be able to fix your tweets without having to pull them down. Is that right? Yeah, yeah, I just saw that. That's crazy. Anyways, my problem is I have horrible typing skills and I always would make a typo. And then people would make fun of me because of that. So we had him do it for a while

and then it got us into some trouble. It was awesome though. So he put one up that's circulating around right now. I'm looking for it. It essentially was that vaccines are effective and help prevent transmission and everyone should get one. It was something like that. And I knew it wasn't my words. I could tell it wasn't here.

All the COVID vaccines are safe. They're effective. They're going to help you and the people around you from further spread. More specifically, the vaccines will help reduce the risk of future mutations by suppressing replication of the virus. Which we believed at that time. Which was one of my concerns at the time. That was something I really, I thought I saw that. Well, everything we had led us to believe that that was the case.

It took a while before that evolved to something else. And also, there is a video of me early on sort of saying something like that. Can you turn the mic towards your face? And then later, me talking to Heather MacDonald after her fall from the vaccine, me talking to Tracy Haig and her concerns about males. But at the time, we knew Sam Shocker's brother who was hospitalized and lost a lung and died.

Died of COVID. So we were kind of in that mode, trying to avoid that. Well, look, there was a lot going on. The government was misrepresenting the risks. They were using fear tactics intentionally. We didn to avoid that. Well, look, there was a lot going on. The government was misrepresenting the risks. They were using fear tactics intentionally. We didn't know that. There was a lot of moving parts going on and we were all trying to figure things out. If you remember, we thought what we were doing here was just sort of every day trying to help people make sense of this because none of it was making sense to me. Now, a clearer picture is starting to evolve.

And in fact, something that did not happen on this show, I spoke to a White House official who was in the White House during the initial phases of lockdown recommendations. And he was telling me that there were people like himself raising their hand and going, where are you getting this lockdown stuff from? Where did this six feet social distancing come from? This doesn't exist. Why are you doing this? And he said these people were so rigid and thinking, he said they were turned beet red with rage if you had any, if you raised any issues with them. And he said they were all risk aversive, extremely fearful of vaccines, excuse me, of infections. And it was their own bias. And then

of course the Chinese policies that they were persuaded by that we were all victimized by. And then Trump derangement syndrome. Places like California, if Trump said, don't close the schools, they closed the schools. And so you add those things together, and that's sort of what we were going through. In any event, at the time, it was not that clear. If you look at me across time, my ideas change, my position change. I suspect if you talk to me a year from now, I'll have even different ideas. I don't know. I should be clearer about young males and the vaccine. I should be clearer about why we're having excess deaths. We should know that by then. I don't know it now, which is why I try not to be overly hubristic in my position.

I'm trying to keep equal footing to see where this goes because we just don't know for sure yet. This is somebody who goes by some brand. It keeps getting worse. Well, there's a lot going on. We know they've obscured data from us. We know they've used behavioral techniques to distort our emotions and try to muscle compliance.

We know we have all been behaving like sheeps, and we've got the wolves on our heels now, and we have to figure out what they're up to and what the reality is. Did I just lose him too? No, Thumper, what's going on? Yep. Thumper. I'll give him a second to come in uh there he is number what's up

hi hillar here's my struggle hey hey so this is a greeting from your mom's house but yes go ahead hey mommies hey mommies um so i was just at the doctor yesterday um and i got uh what is now a routine chest x-ray for me um because i was previously diagnosed or previously tested positive for tb um so you tell you a skin test tested positive or your blood test i had a blood test that came out positive for a pre-employment screening okay um were you traveling in the in asia or anything or central america no i work i work in health care okay well there you go so there you go right yeah i'm i'm an emt yeah by trade Okay. So probably one of these transients. So I've been getting these chest x-rays.

I started last year. I got a first one that came back negative. See, I got, I guess I must've gotten it. I never even knew I had it. I had COVID, didn't get vaccinated. This was before that. And then that whipped my ass for about five days. But this recent one, this is the second chest x-ray I got.

This wasn't for a TB test, but it was because I was having chest pain and a pain in an upper accessory muscle in my back. I went to the doctor because it was the the first time I've ever experienced like a chest pain. It was like pinpoint in my chest that went to the back. Got it. They did the scan again and they said that I had hyperextended my lungs. Hyperextended your lungs? What are they talking about?

What does that mean? What a weird statement. Hyperextended. Do they mean you had a pneum that mean? What a weird statement. Hyper-extended. Do they mean you had a pneumothorax or something? No. My doctor said that I thought, I don't know, I was hoping it wasn't like a tumor or something. That's why I got the checks yesterday.

But they came back. She just said that I essentially had hyper-extended my lungs, referred me to a cardiologist. And if that doesn't go through a pulmonologist, but what noticed me is that she said it was no different than the chest x-ray I had a year ago, which means they must have been hyperextended then. I don't know. Does she mean hyperinflated? Hyperinflated, possibly. Okay, hyperinflated makes sense. Hyperextended is like, that's a muscle kind of, you know, word, hyperextension.

But hyperinflation means like air trapping. Do you have chronic bronchitis or anything of that sort? No, I've never had any lung issues. I've never had any breathing issues, not even as a child or anything. Were your diaphragms flattened? Is that what they're talking about? They didn't mention the diaphragm. Weird.

That's all very weird. And then they sent you to a cardiologist after telling you there's a lung problem? Extra weird. Just because they sent you to a cardiologist after telling you there's a lung problem? Extra weird. Just because of the chest pain. Then they said they would want to do a pulmonologist. I would go straight. Well, okay. But I mean, I would definitely see the pulmonologist. And have you had the vaccine?

No, I haven't. And you've had COVID. I've had COVID. It hit me pretty hard, but I still decided not to get it. Yeah. This is before. This is,

must've been back in 2020. Okay. And did you have a lot of pulmonary symptoms? Yeah, I have a coughing. I wasn't short of breath or anything. Just, you know,

just general exhaustion. I believe I had long COVID, a lot of brain fog. Yeah, yeah. That was so funny. But on top of that, I was kind of heavily smoking back then. Well, I don't smoke tobacco, but I'd smoke marijuana. Oh, okay. So it's almost impossible to smoke a lot of weed and not get chronic bronchitis.

So that's probably what that hyperinflation is. Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. The main method is like, you know, bong rips, like out of a water. Still, it's very irritating to the lungs. And it's probably, I mean, I don't know how many years you did it, but my bet would be mostly reversible. But I bet that's it.

Oh, I should have told you. I'm 27. I've been smoking for over 10 years. I thought that the hyperinflation that you're speaking to i thought that maybe it was because of like you know the big draws that i take for you know no so many times no it's air trapping it's air gets trapped in there it can't come out the airways collapse and that causes the hyperinflation so yeah i definitely would see a pulmonologist they probably put you on some steroid inhaler and that causes the hyperinflation. So, yeah, I definitely would see a pulmonologist. They'd probably put you on some steroid inhaler and that kind of thing. And knock off the weed.

That would be a good idea. Sober October. Good time, my friend. And, yeah, and I've seen the cardiologist. I don't know, whatever. But I'm glad you're taking care of yourself. And thank you for the work as an EMT. I'm so grateful for people that do that work.

And thank you for the call. This is Hackett's. I'm not sure, is there a name associated with that? Yeah, but we'll just go by Hackett's. Fair enough. Dr. Drew, have you heard of or have you seen the movie A Second Opinion? No. Safe and Effective, A Second Opinion opinion i'm just curious if you've seen it what is it um it's just about some of the adverse reactions people have claimed to had from the

vaccine and just going over the numbers safe and effective and what's the last part safe and effective what a second opinion a second opinion i will that. You know, here's the deal. There is no doubt that this vaccine has, I mean, I don't see how anybody can deny the fact that this vaccine has more side effects than most vaccines and more brutal side effects than most vaccines. That just is so. The question that needs to be answered is at what point is it worse than the risk of COVID? And just people seem unwilling to do that study. I can't get, I can't understand it.

That's the number one question of the day. What's worse? Because we know it doesn't prevent transmission. It doesn't prevent infection. It doesn't prevent infection. So it's not that. We're trying to prevent serious complications. So what are the serious complications rate of COVID versus the serious

complication rates of vaccine for every sex and age group? Why can't we do those studies? Seems so simple to me. And yet we don't do it. So I will watch that. I will take a look at that uh video question yeah um so with without any long-term data i was always puzzled why so i'm from canada yeah and pretty much every doctor here has been and still is pushing the vaccine without any long-term data i what i don't

understand is is why why they're pushing it so hard where there's not even the ability to question it um and i get i'm in canada so it is very different from where you are i i just think what's your take on that like why the big push why why was there not like a pause and let people kind of had that conversation and not be chastised for it i don't understand it myself i'm trying to get to the bottom of it it's super clear that if you're over 65 years of age particularly over 75 years of age there is great benefit there is great benefit my patients in those age groups vaxed to the hilt. I did wait on the Omicron until we had some human experience with it,

the bivalent vaccine, just to be sure, but now my patients are all getting vaxed up, and none of them are getting COVID. Well, I shouldn't say that. Those that have gotten COVID, it was rather mild, though I have done a bit of Paxlovid prescribing. And people aren't being hospitalized. People aren't getting that sick. That is just my experience flat across the board. Under the age of 50, people aren't getting that sick without the vaccine. Now, a lot of them had had a primary series.

So the question is, is there some sort of, Monica Gandhi would say that there's some cellular immunity, some T cell immunity left behind that is really helping us. So Omicron does not tend to be a bad, bad, bad actor. And there are various variants coming our way, but I think they're going to be all kind of the same in terms of their virulence. I think there's still a hysteria. I think people are so fearful of backing away from their original sort of feelings about this thing that it was just a, as to quote Kanye, a DEFCON 4. You know, they're absolutely crazy about this. What's that? I think you mean DEFCON 4. No, no, I said DEFCON. I don't want to get into the fact that Kanye said DEFCON.

I don't know what that meant, but I'm using DEFCON. Thank you. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know why we can't be more nuanced with this. It is certainly time to do so. I saw Dr. Gorski, who's a belligerent anti-vaxxer. So he's been attacked by the anti-vaxxers very unfairly over the years. And so he has this very defensive position on the vaccines.

And he had tweeted something a couple of days ago that I was going to really respond to. He said, if you're not anti-vaccine, tell me which vaccines you support. Tell me, just tell me the ones you support. And I thought, I support all of them for particular risk groups at particular ages. I don't give the shingles vaccine to a six-year-old. I don't give yellow fever vaccine to someone who's not traveling to a region where they're going to get yellow fever.

I don't give the Prevnar Pneumovax vaccine to a 12-year-old. I don't give the HPV vaccine to an 85-year-old, but I use all those vaccines so it's not all vaccines all the time in every age group in all situations it's never that and why can't we do that with the covet vaccine why can't we say hey it's great over 65 23 year old athlete i'm not sure let's see if that's appropriate for them let's get that data right we do that with every vaccine there is not a vaccine that doesn't have a particular age window,

risk category, sex category. I mean, it's a travel category. It's always something, exposure category. That's where the vaccines are used. So it's not all vaccines, all circumstances, no matter what, no questions asked. We figure out where to best use them to have the best effect with the least risk. The key is with the least risk. And we have been tolerating way more risk than usual. We really have. Yeah, Renaud B. is mentioning on Rumble that one of the Pfizer representatives admitted that they had no data on the transmissibility of the virus after the vaccine. And guess what? That should have been obvious to everyone, right? We knew they didn't take people and see if they were infectious. Did anybody see any data like that ever? It's unethical to do that for that matter

they just they thought at the time that they were squashing the virus and the viral replication therefore there would not be any transmission turned out not to be true but they did not test transmissibility and this is the key and this is is what the Dutch government official was pointing out, all of the mandate policies and all of the vaccine passports and the grotesque discrimination that came out of that was all on the belief that this virus was not transmitted after the vaccine. That was the entire justification for it. And it was wrong. Somebody needs to apologize.

Somebody needs to apologize. I don't know. Let's see. Let's get Dan up here. Let's see what Dan wants to ask us. Ashley thinks I should be censored. Look, I use the vaccine. I use it in certain age groups.

I use Paxlovid all over the place. We know over 65, it clearly is beneficial. Under 65, we don't know what we're doing. So it's just, it may not be the standard of care, but it is the data right now. All right, Dan, your hand is up. I see you. You have to unmute yourself.

Apologize. Yeah, hello. So I've got one question for you yes buddy does pneumonia cause a high or a low spoke uh spike in hemoglobin does pneumonia cause a a spike sometimes neither a higher load if you become if you becomepoxemic, and it takes many days for that to develop, we are severely hypoxemic. Well, in my experience, it actually goes down a little bit because when you're really sick with pneumonia,

the bone marrow gets suppressed, even though you might be hypoxemic, which is stimulating erythropoietin, which is your bone marrow trying to push out more red cells. So I would say there's no characteristic way that hemoglobin goes with pneumonia. And by the way, if it's a short-lived pneumonia, nothing changes. So what's worse, high hemoglobin or low hemoglobin? Depends on the setting.

With hypercoagulability that COVID caused, I'd be worried about high hemoglobin. In the setting of an acute illness, we worry about low hemoglobin because people are anemic. They can't fight the illness as well. So could hemoglobin not be the yin and yang of the COVID-19 vaccine? No, I don't think hemoglobin in any way is – again, let's be clear.

Hemoglobin is just the hemoglobin content in red blood cells. It's a marker for what's called hematocrit, which is the amount of red blood cells per unit volume. And I don't think it really has any real relevance in this, I'm afraid. But I'm open to it if you see some data that something suggests otherwise. I will take a look. Aaron, let's get you up here. Many hands up. I'll try to get to as many of you guys

as I possibly can. Appreciate the questions. Erin, what's going on there? Safe and effective, a second opinion. Hi, Erin, what's up? Hi, Dr. Drew. So I want to thank you for all you do. You just have such a rational approach and I really appreciate it. Today, I am looking for some advice. I have a seven-year-old son and he is in a ninjutsu class and he's been taking classes at the same dojo since he was, before he turned four. So we've got, you know, a long time in there, but for whatever reason, they are still doing, masking the kids all the time. They're still taking their temperatures, you know, and the kids are running around, you know,

doing exercise with masks on and it just kills me. And, um, one of their, uh, one of the instructors is actually the sensei's, uh, daughter who's probably in probably like 17, 18, somewhere around there. And the other day she was just berating one of the kids for having his mask down under his nose and actually told him that if you need to breathe you need to go outside oh my god so why don't you pull the dojo aside and have a conversation i my bet is that there's a lawyer involved here. At this point now, when people are irrational around their COVID policies, there's a lawyer lurking in the background telling them that if somebody gets sick and sues them and they haven't looked like they've done everything possible, they could be vulnerable. That's my bad.

Okay. Right? Yeah. I'm just trying to figure out a good way to go about it i pull them aside not alienate but yeah pull them aside i mean i i wouldn't i wouldn't come down on the 17 year old she's as she's as we've harmed her as much as anybody with all this nonsense but i would pull the guy aside and say hey what are we doing here and if it's an attorney um maybe you ought to have people sign

something. If he's an attorney. No, no, no. I'm saying what schools are doing now, what private institutions are doing around COVID, when they do stuff that is insane, I've been looking at this kind of carefully because I couldn't understand it. I'm like, what are you doing? Every one of them so far has said, well,

we have an attorney that said, if we're not doing everything we possibly could do, we're going to be exposed. There are some people that are kind of crazy out there and will take action. Is there a competitive company you can go to, another place that doesn't do that? No, they've been with them for years. I know. It's hard because the kids are so married to it. I know.

And I just think, bring them aside and say, hey, how about we'll all sign a waiver where we exonerate you from any responsibility? Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. Are there any particular studies that talk about kids and masking? Oh, my God.

Follow Vinay Prasad. We're going to talk to him next week. He goes crazy on this. I mean, we've talked about the mental health problems well coming from that right but she needs she needs data if you follow his threads go back a few weeks go he has tons of stuff in there in his in his twitter thread vinay prasad v-i-n-a-y prasad he has a podcast too yep it's uh with z dog and they're very good and we're going to talk to him um uh in a week or so there There's somebody speaking to me in French.

I'm just so glad my kids are 30. I mean, they're screwed up enough already. Oui, je connais un jeune homme de 22 ans qui est décidé après la vaccination d'Angleterre d'une rupture d'un rhizome. So that's saying there's a young 22-year-old who had an aneurysm rupture after a vaccine. That's weird. Is it an aneurysm de coeur or de cerveau? That's the question.

Is it a heart or brain? Let me know. Because brain, I would be more likely to blame something like a vaccine than I would the heart aneurysm. That sounds more like a congenital problem in that age group. The World Council for Health called for suspension of mr

yeah but they were sort of an organization that was already kind of inclined that way so let's see if we get more of the traditional organizations uh to really um get on it i'm just looking here sorry you guys i'm taking a second to look at the research i can tell when we've got an hour uh cart what am i making excuses about uh let's say yeah uh jess we we went into the clot thing in a previous um a previous uh interview world council suspension all right okay yeah uh somebody's saying he was in the Navy and he got 11 shots in 15 minutes and also got the smallpox vaccine.

And then they let him in. Yeah. Well, no, and then he was fine. Young people, you can do a lot too. You got to be tough. You want to get into the Navy. Europe and Prague, never see masks. Good, let's go to Prague, Susan.

I want to go to Prague. Vermont saw tons of masks. Drew, this one sounds unusual because this doesn't sound like what you had said, that you had said before that it's healthy to jog with a mask on. No, I wouldn't say it's healthy, and I wouldn't recommend it. I've said it doesn't really, you know, unless you're doing a marathon or something, then yes. But if you're just jogging or walking outside.

It's like jogging in high altitude. It makes zero sense. It makes zero sense. It makes zero sense. It does not transmit outdoors. And one of the enduring memories I have that is seared into my memory when I was running down here off outside of our house and I was about a mile away and I walked by an old man outdoors with a surgical mask on,

also not doing anything. Surgical masks don't work. He recoiled from me running down the street like I was on fire. I will never forget it. The only good thing about jogging with a mask on is if you're training to go to high altitude to do a long-distance run because it simulates the low oxygen levels in height. It doesn't. It doesn't.

It changes. It concentrates the CO2 right here. So you're never really able to completely blow off the CO2, which is the bigger problem. I mean, that's what they used to do for the ice skaters. They'd have them skate with a mask on. Really? That seems silly to me. Yeah, before they went to Colorado Springs.

That seems silly to me. Okay. I don't know if it worked, but. He studied in England. He got his diploma. He went on a motorbike ride. After friends, in the morning, his friends went on a motorbike ride. Yeah. Again, you're not telling me.

Was that, did he die from a brain aneurysm? The brain? Or in the body? It was a heart or a brain. My mom. Okay. Take another brain. Okay. Take another call. Bonjour.

Let's talk to Ben here. Howard Stern hated the government, specifically the FCC, when he was up and coming. Now he kisses their butt. That's true. Interesting. It's interesting how people have just changed their thing when you when you can when you've always been the same thank you for talking about this the government needs to stay out of my medical records none of my their business that's true ben unmute your mic there uh hey hey how are you what's happening um so your opinion um this you, everything I think that we've seen is kind of crazy.

I think today I've seen that Moderna, in fact, released that they are going to be coming up with an mRNA shot to help cure the clots and cardiovascular issues. Interesting. Potentially. That's interesting. That makes sense to me. That makes sense to me. Interesting. You know, potentially. That's interesting. That makes sense to me. That makes sense to me. Yeah. But being a doctor,

so my question is this. I think many people, I'm always trying to speak for myself, but I think in this instance, I'm speaking for many others. I never looked twice at vaccines or medications or big pharma. Now I look at everything with a microscope yeah um yeah you're like you're like our buddy have major long term you're like our buddy steve kirsch who

uh who was really changed by what he dug into and he was always uh of the school school of thought that we should be you know of course you would trust what doctors and medical societies and pharmaceutical companies say, but he's been, he's gone extremely the other way. I'm telling you the truth lies somewhere in between. If you have thoughtful people, they can sort of navigate you through it as safely as possible. But your point is, your point is, should we be trusting something like an MRI vaccine for, say, clots associated with severe COVID? Well, no, not even necessarily so much that.

I just see the trust dwindling away. Oh, it's gone. The people that were supposed to entrust those topics, too. Yeah. So I'm just wondering what the long term on this could potentially be. I don't know. We don't know. Look, public health is toast as far as I can see.

I don't know how they earn back people's trust. Pharmaceutical companies were already on the shit list, and I don't know now how they – it's just anybody – well, numero uno is media, right? Don't we all agree? Traditional media, that's where we categorically believe nothing. Are you with me on that? Absolutely.

All right. So traditional media, I don't care which side, I don't care who's talking. No, don't believe it. So whatever they say out there on traditional media, whoever's representing what, we're going to kind of not really listen to it. So it means going in and trying to figure it out for yourself. But a lot of people aren't trained or equipped to do their own research, so to speak.

So really what it's incumbent upon everybody is to find a trusted source. Back to old-fashioned days of finding a doctor you can trust and communicate with and who you believe has good judgment, who you believe has your best interest, and let him or her navigate all this stuff. Because that's what we are supposed to do and and i think that that that could be a good news for primary care type practitioners we could really restore the faith through primary care but the higher authorities are going to remain for a generation they're going to remain highly suspect. And again, completely incapable of being trusted in the traditional media. Because just by virtue of presenting messaging in the traditional media, the presumption is it's wrong.

Or at least a lie or a distortion or something. Okay, here's my French friend again. Il a dit qu'il veut nous remettre les masques en France. Oh, they're going to bring the mass back in France uh because the uh no no no no I don't think so she's saying that the three doses people are still getting the illness yeah but the vaccines aren't going to do anything they aren't still get it and uh by the way I hope your youth are out in the streets again like they were. They were demonstrating against things like mask mandates and vaccine mandates when they were clear that at their age

they weren't going to be harmed by the virus. They all died of drug abuse. Yeah, maybe later. Okay, so I think I'm going to wrap things up. I'm sorry I didn't get to everybody tonight. I have a very sadistic way of looking at this. Yes, you do. Oh, wait, I'm going to get Leopold up here.

Leopold's in the queue. See what's going on with him. You owe Leopold an appearance on this show, Susan? You still do. I know. If he wants to come, I think you lost him. Oh, no way. Really? There you are. Leopold, what's going on? When has he ever passed?

It's a long time to hear. So, a couple of questions for you, Dr. Drew. One is, so lots of interesting issues have occurred in the interim since we last talked. My nephew, who's 25, had to have emergency brain surgery for a growth that was on his cerebellum and and what we yeah it was crazy um but one of the things that we've and again it's just a um empirical kind of observation my mother-in-law also has growths in her brain and my nephew's friend also uh had some um uh brain uh tumor issues could there be any link do you think in your mind uh i i have let me just say that usually if there's something a bruin i will kind of see it or at least i'll be thinking about it and i've

not seen anything like that what i what i have been worried about is a general suppression of our immunity. I've not seen this. I'm worrying about this. A general suppression of our immunity so that our surveillance system against cancer is impaired and cancers are breaking through. And is that what the excess death thing is all about? That's what I'm worried about. I'm seeing an awful lot of cancers.

What was on his cerebellum? It was a growth. And the weird thing was. Like an arachnoid cyst or like a growth. What's the name of it? You need the name of it. You know, Dr. Drew, I saw the name of it? You need the name of it. Dr. Drew, I saw the name of it and

it's something platy or something. It's a long name and I can't remember it. It's sort of the three things. There's an arachnoid cyst which is totally benign, a meningioma which keeps growing. They have to come out

or something like a medullary neuroblastoma or something. That blastoma, the last one you said. Did they have to remove it? Yeah. They did. They literally found it. He felt it was during the heat wave, and the doctors thought that he had heat stroke or heat stress. He was kind of babbling. Was he falling down?

Yeah, he got confused. Yeah, he was confused, right. And it was through the persistence of my sister who said, you know, we ought to have a CAT scan done. And thankfully, the doctor agreed to it. Oh, good. And they found it. And literally the next day, he was in brain surgery. How old is he?

25. Oh, my gosh. That's when that stuff comes on, unfortunately. I'm so sorry, Leopold. It's so disconcerting. There are some strange responses to a drug called Avastin, where sometimes people do really well with that, so you can ask about that. So it's those kinds of tumors people have been doing better with in recent years. So that's the good news. Well, what I thought was strange was just, you know, it seems like my, you know, small circle of, you know, family and friends are coming down with growths in their brain.

That's what I find weird. And they all have the Pfizer vaccine. Well, it is. I'll log it. You know what I mean? That'll be in my thinking as I look around and see what else odd I see. And nothing in your grandparents' history of anything like this no not at all but but no but as you know well random events segregate non-randomly that's so weird though random events current series yeah i mean i i you know i i just don't want to make that you know

leap you know saying well okay just because just because a certain population of me. But it just seems weird timing, weird everything. It's like too many people around me are getting brain dead. Yeah, I get it. It's weird. It's weird and disconcerting. And that one common denominator that I see is that, you know, is the Pfizer vaccine. So it was just kind of strange that they all had the Pfizer vaccine.

I mean, I can understand that. So it's, again, if we decide that the excess deaths are due to a sudden increase in certain cancers and all, you know, Alex Berenson has been looking at this data. And I don't know, the stuff that he printed, it didn't really enlighten me any. But you might want to look at his thread. He breaks down a little bit the various causes of death in that excess death category.

Leopold, good to hear your voice, my friend. Yeah, good to hear you guys too. All right, buddy. you have a great day you and Susan tomorrow we have Dr. Spiro Hanatazatos there he is

now this was a Kelly getch who's very excited about him you know what that was about Caleb yeah I'm gonna hand this one over. My brain, where is my notes? Let's see. He's a psychiatrist, a neurologist of psychiatry.

So I'm guessing it's going to be a lot about... Assistant professor of clinical neurobiology at Columbia. And he had originally planned to stay locked down through the pandemic until a vaccine arrived, but then he started studying the data and says that he found this alarming pattern of adverse reactions and events that seemed to increase based on areas that administered more doses and so he's going to speak on on that and what he believes all right we're going to look at that and we're going to

look we'll do a little bit of mass formation psychosis and she is a he is a psychiatrist i'm looking at some of his other publications. Global Impact of the First Year of COVID Vaccine, Mathematical Modeling. He published it too. He published some data. Very interesting. And he went to Paulina's alma mater.

He went to Columbia. Or he works there. Yeah, he works at Columbia. And by the way, those of you who are negative on Dr. Oz, he was the chairman of the Department of Cardiovascular Surgery, Cardiothoracic Surgery at Columbia Presbyterian Hospital. That's the highest academic standing you can achieve. He's smart.

Yeah. Whole transcron brain expression, exonusing. Yeah, if you have a heart attack, he's the guy to be on a plane with. Yeah, no kidding. All right, so we will be up with Dr. Pantazos. Pantazatos? Is that how I'm going to pronounce it? I'm going to have to get that pronunciation tomorrow before we bring him in here. Let me go one last look around. And he's running

for government. Give the guy a break. He's trying so hard. You're still in Oz. I am. I like Dr. Oz. Yeah, he's a good guy. I'm just looking through your comments over on the Rumble Rants, everybody. How are things at Rumble these days, now that it's a public company? Yeah. Go buy stock there.

Let's see. Keep the Rumble Ranters going. Chickenpox. Let me see. Okay, you guys. 30 friends suddenly have kidney stones. Atrial fib is the one I worry about. I don't know about the stone formation, but the atrial fib and the

supraventricular arrhythmia is things I really, really worry about. I'm seeing an awful lot of that, and I do think it is vaccine-related. It makes sense that it would be localized myocarditis that doesn't really cause symptoms other than the abnormal electricity, electrical discharges. Okay, Kelly is on tomorrow. She'll be here with us, with

Dr. Pantacitus. What's that, Susan? Boost the ratings a little bit and bring her back. Yeah. Caleb, anything else before I wrap it up here? Oh, no. It's all good here. I'm excited for tomorrow's show and especially the attention that the Ed Dowd episode got over the weekend. It was over 180,000

views it grew by over this weekend. So thank you, everyone, for watching and probably a lot of new people here on today's show that came from that video because you've gained over like 1500 subscribers overnight so it's been pretty thanks for subscribing and liking us and being nice to us we really appreciate it and if you have topics you'd like me to get into you can susan interviews all the emails at contact at drdrew.com, contact at drdrew.com. Those of you, one of these, you know,

we ought to start pulling questions out of there, Susan, because I'm not getting into all the calls on Twitter spaces. Well, I had one I sent you today, remember? Yeah, but the ones that I can answer, I will answer. But unfortunately, I can't answer every question on the email because it's information I need beyond what's provided in the email sometimes. Thank you all for being here. Again, it is tomorrow at three o'clock, same bat time, same bat station right here with Dr. Pantazatos and Dr. Kelly Victory. We'll see you then. Three o'clock.

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