Ask Dr. Drew - “Blamed On The Flu”: Engineer Says VAERS Records Hide Vaccine Deaths – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 642
Episode Date: July 9, 2026Data engineer John Beaudoin Sr. obtained more than 1.6 million official death certificates through public-records requests and cross-referenced them against VAERS. He says the records show deaths were... misclassified and vaccine injuries left off many certificates entirely. Beaudoin argues the agencies have refused to open individual case-file investigations that he says could establish causality, and that this refusal is itself the story. Among the claims is a cluster of infant deaths he says occurred within days of vaccination and were attributed on the records to other causes. Brad Thayer, founding member of the Committee on the Present Danger: China and author of “America’s Hundred Years’ War: How to Win Against Communism” discusses CCP subversion and U.S. national security. Chris Fenton, former president of DMG Entertainment’s Motion Picture Group and author of “Feeding the Dragon” speaks about Hollywood’s relationship with Beijing and his new American-made film “Bad Counselors” in theaters July 22-27. 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew • CHAPTER - For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial (218) 521-2472 to speak with my trusted partner, Chapter, or go to https://askchapter.org/drdrew Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - https://kalebnation.com • Susan Pinsky - https://x.com/firstladyoflove Content Producer • Emily Barsh - https://x.com/emilytvproducer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Well, John Bowden is someone we found in a chat room around the show,
begging me to allow him to share some of his data with me,
and it's been an extraordinary journey ever since.
He's back to share more.
He's the author of the real CDC,
more than 1.6 million deaths certificates he looked at
and cross-referenced him against the government's database
and said he found evidence that many of the records were falsified
to hide vaccine deaths.
He's going to talk to us about his latest findings.
You can follow him on X. John with an H.
spelled like Bodowin,
I think he's pronounced
it Bowden,
Senior, John Bowden, Sr.
Then Brett Thayer comes in.
He's the author of the America's
100 years war about how we've been fighting
communism now for 100 years.
And how he studies a particular
of the Chinese Communist Party
works to subvert American institutions.
And he has some
ideas about where that war
is going.
And guess what?
It's generally not good.
And then finally, Chris Fentz,
and comes back as well. He ran a motion picture group. He was an agent and he wrote Feeding the Dragon
about how Hollywood the NBA and American business got hooked on Chinese money. He produced over a dozen
films, grossing over $2 billion worldwide. And his latest movie, Bad Counselors, due out July 22nd.
We'll show you some footage of that. All-American made, he says. It's American film. American,
all the way through. You can find Chris on X at The Dragon Feeder. And Brad Thur,
Thayer is at Brad Thayer, T-H-A-Y-E-R.
Three guests, great guests.
Not enough time to squeeze it all in,
but we'll show you where to go to get more after this.
Our laws, as it pertain to substances,
are draconian and bizarre.
The psychopaths start this, he was an alcoholic
because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction.
Fentanyl and heroin, ridiculous.
I'm a doctor for, I say,
where the hell you think I learned that?
I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people.
I am a clinician.
I observe things about these.
chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveland all the time.
Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. You have trouble. You can't stop and you want to help
stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. All right, John, come on in here
again. I want you to review if you would for people how you went down this path. Just sketch it.
If they want to hear the full story, I know you've told it on this show before. But I want you to
talk about what you were seeing, why you went down this path, and where it has led you.
Okay, so the reason why, I had lost my son in a motorcycle accident in 2018.
Depressed on the couch for a couple of years.
COVID comes in.
I have two other boys to try to get out of school and launched.
It's not going well because the government, you know, what they did to kids,
telling them to stay home and everything.
So I started looking into it because my son said, it's all fake.
And I said, well, you got to take it seriously and be a responsible citizen.
So I looked into the CDC numbers, and I found the CDC had deleted some stuff.
And I won't get into it too much, but they changed the file.
Just because some guy in Medfield, Massachusetts sent them an email saying, you've got an error in your math,
they changed historical data, not the current data.
They changed the historical data.
So that set me off.
I wrote about 10 or 11 papers inside of two months, just nowhere to publish, just me looking into it.
They said black people had more of a propensity to die from COVID.
It wasn't true.
They were taking the whole population of the U.S.
Instead of looking where COVID was, which I looked in Cook County, Illinois,
the five boroughs of New York and Massachusetts,
and the percentages were the same among society.
Then I looked at the students and the chancellor of Cal State University system,
not the University of California system,
but Cal State University system.
Yeah, that's right.
He shut down school in May of 2020 for the fall semester.
And I looked up the data there, thought he was crazy.
So I went to law school.
I sued the governor over the mask mandate.
He changed the order for the entire state of Massachusetts to get around my lawsuit.
And then I was dismissed because I had no standing because he changed it to get around my lawsuit,
which was, I'm deaf in my right ear.
You're depriving me of receiving free speech from others by ordering.
them to cover their mouths where I can't see their lips move, which is how I hear. Part of how I hear.
Wow. And so I sort of won that, but I lost it. I was kicked out. I never got to argue it
substantively because he changed it for the whole state. Paragraph 2B in order 55 said,
anybody speaking to anybody hearing impaired doesn't have to wear a mask. So that was that.
I got kicked out of law school for not taking the vaccine. You know, they kept my money for the
year, didn't give it back to me. They didn't even rule on my religious exemption. They just sent me
a letter saying, pay back your loan. You're out. No denied, no allowed, nothing. So I have a lawsuit
against them, and we haven't talked for almost two years. What has happened is I sued them. It was
dismissed on standing. And then I appealed, and pro se, I won my appeal at the mass court of appeals.
So I have my lawsuit back on and won a very few in the whole country to win on appeal.
And that's a contract violation against the law school.
So I'm in the middle of discovery for that, which is difficult to get because some of the employees at that law school are, let's just say their health isn't very good since they got the vaccine.
So I also sued the governor of Massachusetts over the vaccine mandate saying there would not have been a vaccine mandate for schools, but for your fraudulent.
record keeping where I have all, I have all the records in Massachusetts, every death record, no redactions, first, middle, last names, medical examiner's names, office address, causes of death, and I analyzed them from around March of 22 when I first got it.
And I've been doing it ever since. I also have Minnesota. Since I talked to you, I got Connecticut. I told Connecticut the truth, which was, I am doing a research paper of climate change versus heart.
disease. So they gave me their whole database. Wow. Wow. Wow. So I found, yeah, 14 deaths on the same
day of vaccination, 36 the day after 51, two days after. That's 101 people in two days in
Connecticut, especially Michael Williamson, 16 years old, certified by the chief medical examiner
of Connecticut, Dr. James Gill. He wrote a paper. If you, you'll remember this paper. Two
routines in Connecticut died from myocarditis from the vaccine. One of them was Michael Williamson.
So I identified him based on the records that I have and so forth. So that's how I got into it.
And what is happening now? I mean, that's sort of a lot of update for me anyway, but what is
mobilizing you presently? Because back when I last talked to you, you were still looking at renal
failure data and misclassification of COVID deaths and worrying about how the treatment was
making people die. That's been pretty well established now. What is animating you presently?
Yeah. So, you know, it's hard to say this because I'm just the guy, right? I'm an engineer.
I've been three years ahead of the science, the science, because research papers take a long time and most of
that market is corrupt. So what's motivating me now? Well, last fall, my original lawsuit against the
governor for the vaccine mandates, had done a pass-through to the First Circuit Court of Appeals,
which takes 18 months, and they just rubber-stamped it. They gave me, like, one line in the whole
thing that had anything to do with a substantive argument. And I was dismissed on standing,
and it was affirmed. So I wrote a petition to the Supreme Court of the United States.
But in preparation for that, and that is the foundation of my petition for writ of Kertrari to the
Supreme Court, I did a research paper. It's in 1830.
page economics and law research paper that looks at the, it's a management system's analysis
of the U.S. court system. And so when I looked at that, it, I found it something unexpected.
I knew that standing was being overly used to dismiss cases, but I did not realize that they
had done the same. Explain to me and to my audience. John, what does standing mean?
Sure. Well, yeah, try to have a lawyer explain it to you. They can't. It's really not understandable.
But there are two things that they get you on at the pleading stage,
which is right when you file the complaint,
you get back from the defense a motion to dismiss.
And they invariably use Ashcroft v. Zipal and Bell Atlantic versus Twombly.
And those are just two names.
You don't have to know them.
But what you should know is in 16 years,
those two cases became the most cited cases in the history of the United States in only 16 years.
And we just celebrated our 250th anniversary.
and not by a little bit either, by about 10x of all the cases you've ever heard,
10 times Miranda v. Arizona, 10 times Roe v. Wade, 10 times Buck v. Bell.
It's by far the greatest, and they're only used to dismiss cases on basically
failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted, but failure to state a claim,
and standing. Standing is they say you don't have an injury, in fact,
the injury that you suffered is not causally traceable to the conduct of the defendant,
or that the court, even if you win the case, has no power to redress the injury,
meaning they can't do anything. So why hear the case? You know, if you're suing somebody in Turkey,
you know, they can't get the guy from Turkey to come here to be sued, right? So those three things are
standing. And by the way, the courts are all backed up because of COVID.
Well, I got the numbers. So, you know, Caleb has a,
couple of graphs. He can put them up anytime he wants at this point because I can explain them.
And not only was it were they the most cited cases. So this one, okay, see what's in yellow there.
That's Ashcroft versus Iqbal and Bill Atlantic versus Twombly. And if you look at all the other
cases, Marbury versus Madison and like the others that I said, Miranda versus Arizona,
those are, these are the most cited cases in the history of the United States. And by far,
by far it's those two but if you if you go down a little bit Caleb just scroll to where you just wore
those ones right in the middle Anderson versus liberty lobby and sell a text versus catratt
those are used for summary judgment and in 1986 they became the most cited cases in the history of
the united states and what they're used for is if the judge doesn't want to get doesn't want the case
to go to a trial doesn't want the case to go to jury he can say well
I'm sorry, the lawyers submit a motion for summary judgment.
And it goes either way.
And the judge can say, well, there's not enough facts here to even hear the case.
So you're out.
So it's basically a subjective assessment of the judge where the facts are supposed to be found by the jury, not the judge.
And the judges usurp the power of the jury, the power of the people over a case or controversy,
took that away from the people in 1986.
and the practice of law shifted from mostly substantive arguments where you're getting ready for trial,
you're going through discovery. It shifted to let's just get it out of here at summary judgment.
Now, you know, in an economic system, the only way to make the system more efficient is to dismiss it earlier in the process.
So the Bell Atlantic versus Twombly that's highlighted there in Ashcroft versus Zickball,
they absolutely blew away everything, everything. Even even, even though,
summary judgment cases I just told you about. So they backed up the process. And if you go to the
other graph, Caleb, I can now show you what happened in 2020 because Dr. Drew just mentioned that
what happened in 2020. Can you scroll down? Sweet, there we go. So this is a 30-year span. It starts in
1995. And if you look for a quarter century leading up to 2020, you see a variation that's not very
wide. Your standard deviation is low. I'll just say that 1997 was the greatest amount more than
expected, and that was a 5.7% increase. And then all of a sudden in 2020, due to COVID,
there were 180,000 excess more than normal, more than expected cases, and that was 62.2%.
So the percent increase in cases, this is, you know, a management systems analysis with empirical
data. It's irrefutable. What would the court do?
with a 62% increase all year long in 2020.
Did they hire 62% more people?
No.
Did they all work 62% more hours every day for a year?
14-hour days?
No, of course they didn't do that.
So what they did was they accepted all these motions to dismiss,
and the judges just said, dismiss, dismiss, dismiss, dismiss.
They dismissed 180,000 meritorious cases,
meaning the people's rights were trampled to have their cases heard.
if they didn't want to follow the
And by the way, they were probably more than 180,000
because they were already backlogged another 30,000 or something.
But why such an increase in cases, in case number?
Well, if you think about what happened early on,
I mean, they were telling landlords
they weren't allowed to take rent from the tenants.
So all the landlords sued, and the banks got involved.
The banks won that one.
But then you had all the mask cases.
And by the way, Dr. Drew,
this is this is only federal so you got to multiply that number by a lot to talk about all the state
cases there were a lot of lawsuits in state courts is the is the judicial system or the
lawing you know the various bar associations looking at this aware of this thinking about this
concerned about it and give a shit if you remember what i did for the medicine side um we talked about
EBM maybe a couple of times ago. I mean, I know it's been four years, but, so evidence-based medicine,
it came out of Canada. If you find any doctor under, say, I used to say 50, now I say 55, because
it's been five years. Those doctors that graduated after 1992 were indoctrinated into believing
that the literature is primary evidence rather than the patient standing in front of you. That sort
of shift in behavior. That is something that
has always been sort of the foundation of medicine.
We just didn't know how adulterated everything had become.
COVID did us that one favor.
I mean, you said you don't publish in medical literature because it's corrupted.
When did you become aware that the medical literature is so badly corrupted?
When I did the research for my book, I mean, when they first started putting out papers,
I can read a scientific paper and say they didn't account for multiple confoundings.
variables on purpose.
Of course.
They purposely didn't.
And the assumption, and the assumptions always ridiculous, bad assumptions,
confounding variable is not intended for.
No clear question.
They almost never asking a clear question,
which is what the scientific method is designed to do.
It's a delicate instrument has to be applied a certain way.
As soon as you screw with it, it doesn't work.
It's not, you're not telling you anything.
I mean, you might be collecting some real-time data, you know, about, I don't know,
it's like looking at traffic.
flows or something. I mean, but you're not doing science. Yeah, I came out of semiconductor research.
That's where I had my career. And so we had cross-lot variability, cross-wafer variability. We did a lot of
analysis. And they used statistics in a very controlled environment. You can control the temperature,
the pressure, the frequency of light and the deposition time that it's in there in the chamber,
in the plasma chamber. Those are all controlled variables, right? But when you talk about medicine and
biology and somebody's in a ward with a bunch of people coming in and out. There's no control.
And so, you know, the methods are terrible. But so I figured that out from there. The same thing
happened in law. The same thing happened where if you talk to any lawyers now that are 60 years or
younger, they will not remember or even know what law, the practice of law was like before 1986.
And so they don't know that most of the effort was in substantive arguments before,
and now it's 100% procedural,
and the courts are not even allowing one-tenth of one percent of cases to get to juries.
The judges openly state, how are we going to get this, make sure this doesn't get the jury trial?
That's their goal.
So, John, we are in new territory, you and I here.
This is new concerns.
And so, I,
I was worried about medicine and good care and vaccine injuries and the truth.
I was interested in the truth that was being clearly not pursued,
but slowly but surely the truth is kind of,
kind of kind of moving along,
moving towards something.
At least it's not,
we're not avoiding it the way we were.
But you've opened some new Pandora's boxes here.
What do we do?
Is there,
this may be an unfair question,
but you're pointing out things that are,
undeniable. And what do we do? All right. So I mean, nobody knows what to call me. I've come up with a term,
whole systems analyst. I look at everything really comes down to psychology, not biology, with regard to COVID.
So what happened? What do we do? It's in my, it's my petition to SCOTUS. There's a couple of very
simple things you can do with equitable relief. You know, I kind of don't want to get into that now because
I'd have to explain all the terms.
But really...
Let me ask this.
Let me, without getting the technical aspects of the law,
let's say Supreme Court hears this or...
They already rejected.
...sides with you.
They already reject it.
So now what?
Now what?
We have to...
The legislature has to codify the rules of civil procedure.
That would solve the problem,
but you're never going to get them to do it.
They don't do anything unless...
you know, people have pitchforks and torches.
So, you know, I hate to say we're a good.
Now what?
Well, you know, how many people are going to put up with their kids getting killed?
You know, how many people are going to put up with their parents and their brothers and sisters getting killed?
And that's, once they wake up, and a lot of people are waking up, we've, it takes time.
I said this won't end until everybody knows somebody who got maimed or killed.
I said that four years ago.
By the vaccine.
By the vaccine.
Of the vaccine.
That's just one thing.
I mean, it's the hospital homicides too.
So what the courts could do if they come to this realization is impose two tests.
I'll just say two tests.
The public interest is one and the balance of harms is the other.
Well, you know, you know, it's interesting.
That's the second time you brought up the public interest as a test.
You did it a little margin, sort of peripherally before, but it caught my ear because that just
happened in France. Marine Le Pen wanted appeal on that, that the public interest was in favor of having
the choice that they seemed to want and the people being so. I think they're talking about people
being sovereign in France, and we don't talk about that here. And you're sort of tilting at the same
thing. The sovereignty of the citizenship needs to be not just maintained, but reestablished.
Oh boy. You mentioned France. So Barre d'Amatoscu had more influence on our government than did John Locke. And we all talk about John Locke because he was an Englishman.
I know. The French are pissed about it too. Trust me.
Well, they noticed it. British noticed it too.
Well, yeah. I mean, they're both great. And also the serendipity of having a bicameral legislature where the Senate is the
upper chamber and more powerful. That was just by accident in a negotiation at the last minute.
There's a lot of people think, oh, they were geniuses. Well, they were well read and they were
really smart. But we got lucky in some ways. But anyway, back to the point.
Listen, I'm going to give you the last point, but I got to wrap this up. So make your last
point, wrap it up, and we've got to move on. You predicted we couldn't get it all in a half an hour
and you were absolutely right. So we'll have to follow up, do a little more. We'll see how the
audience responds to it, I am strangely inspired, even though it sounds ominous what you're describing,
because it's a systems problem, as you said. It's a, it's a systems issue, and therefore it can be
corrected. But wrap it up. Here you go. Okay. Without dispute resolution in the courts,
it spills into the streets. You have civil unrest, and that's what you see happening in the U.S.
It will continue unless this gets fixed. And the last thing I want to say is the ASIP memorandum,
should discuss someday. It's the greatest
amount of robust
and conclusive evidence you will find anywhere
against the vaccines. By far
blows away 10,000 research
papers because it's all facts with
names and it's irrefutable.
And you can find it in a federal register
under the ASIP committee.
I put some links. So this show
there's a thread where I put
a bunch of links. Look for the ACIP
the ASIP memorandum.
Thank you. That is on
X. I saw that thread. And
a click through on some of that stuff.
But yes, you put a multi-part thread there on X.
You can find it.
It's what's your, did I give you the proper?
Yeah, it's John Bowden, Senior.
And Bowden is, am I pronouncing your?
You know, it's a French.
That's the best you've done.
It's not Bowden.
Okay.
Bowden, yeah.
No, it's not that.
It looks, yeah, yeah, I know.
Okay.
So, B-E-A-U-I-N, B-E-A-U-I-N senior.
John with an age.
What's that, Susan?
What's that, Susan?
you doing. Yeah, I know. It's kind of what it looks like. It's like the college, but the college
Bowden people pronounce as Bowdoin also. So it's, and that's even spelled a little more like
Boudawen, but okay. English. So I appreciate you coming back. As I said, I think, I hope,
last time I appreciate your work and your diligence. And please go back to law school so you can
get the letters after your name. So we can arm you properly with it, with a, uh,
I did.
You know, with the, you did?
I'm in loss. I did.
I'm completing my first year in a moment.
Yeah.
All right, good.
Thank you.
We need more people like you.
Yeah, indeed.
All right, keep going and we'll talk soon.
Thanks much.
Take care.
You got it.
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All right. Brad Thayer is here.
You can find him on X.
Brad Thayer is his handle.
Also, CPD China.
Brad, welcome back.
Well, Dr. Drew, it's great to join you again.
So, you know, last time we talked, I ended up with a lot of anxiety.
And you made me worry about things I hadn't worried about necessarily before.
for but that's good
I mean that's good
one of the questions
I have for you
is what the
do we have any idea
and I'll just say foreign money
and you can specify whether it's China
or not because we're talking about the war against communism
generally is involved
in the DSA
and these electoral
successes they are having
well I think that
has to be investigated because
clearly the Chinese Communist Party is working assiduously to undermine the United States,
undermine our domestic politics, and the DSA is going to be either through direct or indirect means
as going to be a recipient of that aid.
The Chinese Communist Party works through a variety of means,
including what they call the United Front Work Department,
which is a way of working through front organizations to support pro-CCP causes around the world, groups, organizations, people around the world.
So I think when we look into it, we're going to find that.
I think we'll also find Neville Roy Singham's organization.
So Singham is a communist who lives in Shanghai, who's supportive of DSA and communist movements around the world.
And Soros, of course, Soros, of course.
Alexander George Soros, of course, and his son Alexander Soros, similarly support related groups.
So I think when we look into it, we're going to find that there's tremendous support, resources that are flowing in to support these groups from hostile entities around the world, but principally communist China.
We have reason to believe the administration is looking into this.
And if so, how do you imagine they're doing it?
Because in my, as I imagine the sort of spectrum of what the CP, the Chinese Communist Party could be doing, the CCP, they could be, there could be downstream immigrants that are just, you know, been placed here a long time ago.
They're just getting involved in just politics.
It looks benign.
But they are being directed by somebody in China.
Certainly.
are many avenues to undermine our electrical system. Sadly, there are many avenues to do so.
And you're exactly right. It could be people who are here for a long time. But we do know,
and we will suspect that there's going to be more information coming out about the communist
China's influence in the 2020 election and even in 2024. So,
The Justice Department is looking into that, and folks have indicated that there may be some very important news coming out about the influence.
But please keep in mind as well that Tulsi Gabbard, when she was the director of ODNI, and President Trump himself have said that the Chinese were involved in the 2020 election.
So there's evidence there, and it's just a question of making it public, I think.
Do me a favor and frame for people that perhaps didn't hear your last visit with us.
How you look at this 100 years war?
Well, certainly.
I think that it's quite useful to think back in the last century as a long war against communism.
we fought against external adversaries, the Soviet Union, in what we call the Cold War,
and we are fighting presently against the Chinese Communist Party.
So there's an external element.
Thankfully, we defeated the Soviets, but we did not defeat communism.
And communism continues.
That ideology continues with the Chinese Communist Party.
There's also Dr. Drew, the internal element, which has been present since
Lenin brought about the Bolshevik revolution in Russia in 1917.
That is that there have been American communists working to undermine the United States
and they've been working through originally a communist party,
but now they're operating through a variety of mechanisms.
And we're seeing the Democratic Party becoming heavily influenced by what we now call progressives,
which is in reality that's communism by another name.
We're seeing that, of course, in Colorado,
with the primary election of Kuros, of course.
We saw that in New York, again in June,
where Brad Lander defeated Goldman, for example,
other results in New York primaries.
And we're seeing President Trump call this out directly,
where he's calling communism by name
the greatest threat that we've faced in our history.
So it's very important for folks to recognize there was an external dimension to a communist threat.
There's also an internal dimension, but it's one fight against communism and now's the time to win it.
Is I'm sort of thinking about, you know, there were battles by J. Edgar Hoover when he first came to power and there was, people forget there was a lot of terrorism by communist sympathizers back then.
And then it sort of took on a very heated pitch, obviously in the 50s.
My question would is sort of, my last guest talked about how psychology is operating more than the law.
And the same thing with medicine, that there's psychological problems.
And it feels like we have this tendency to drift into this idealizing of centralized authority.
idealizing of, you know, these more embrace of, you know, collectivism.
It gets idealized.
And some of it is fueled by what happened during the 50s.
I mean, all my life, McCarthy was pointed out of you see how dumb, how stupid, how excessive, how.
But now, I'm not saying he was right in his way he conducted himself, but it's starting to look
not as bad as it did, say, 20 years ago.
Not as ridiculous, at least.
Oh, absolutely. You're right. We have a long history going back to Woodrow Wilson's administration.
Right after the Bolshevik Revolution, there were serious concerns about communism and anarchism in the United States.
And Attorney General Palmer, in fact, deported, and what was called the Soviet arc.
We deported 400 anarchists and Leninists back to the Soviet Union in 1919.
So the fight has been a long one.
been done in many different ways, certainly, but we haven't won it. And communists are extremely good
at political warfare. They're very good at penetrating societies. They're very good at penetrating
the ideas industry. So they penetrate the universities, pay through 12. They penetrate media,
of course, film how we think about ideas, and they frame it.
And Mandami's speech on July 3rd was a classic example of that,
classic communist technique where he takes Independence Day and he twists it,
he contorts it into a communist vision, really, of Independence Day.
And it should be noted, folks should compare Mandami's speech on July 3rd with
President Trump's also delivered on July 3 at Mount Rushmore, where he identified once again
communism as a thread and gave a full-throated defense of an embrace of American independence.
As you look, you know, you have studied this, this is your, you know, this is your business,
so to speak. Are you worried? Are you optimistic? Are the things people need to be doing?
Absolutely. What we need to do is.
reclaim our liberties. And first, we need to understand Leninism. We need to understand the
nature of the communist threat and their operation, and recognizing that it exists in Beijing,
but it also exists elsewhere and exists within the United States. From that understanding,
of course, we can appreciate, secondly, how fortunate we are to be Americans. And Americans
should embrace what I call the American Trinity, which is the American spirit, the recognition
that Americans are your unique people since our founding. Secondly, political liberalism,
that we believe, of course, in liberty, we believe in freedoms, Bill of Rights, Rule of Law.
And lastly, Western civilization, that we are creatures of the West. Western civilization is the best
civilization to exist, and it is one which has provided us with not only a wealth of medicine,
science, of course, what we use, the scientific method, but it has allowed us to exist as
individuals and to fulfill ourselves. When Americans recognize that, they recognize that communism
offers tyranny. It offers totalitarianism. It will lead to, as it always does, to death and to
destruction and to misery. With that appreciation, Americans can, I think, suss out mandami.
When Mandami is going on about this, that, or the other thing, right, to say that you have a
power to determine what America means or everything was horrible in America before he showed up,
Americans are going to recognize how false that is, and they're not going to be susceptible
to those measures. And then exercise your free speech rights, right?
You have the ability to voice your opinion on social media, et cetera, and to engage in this debate.
So the solution, in essence, to communism is Americanism, right?
It's the appreciation of who we are as a people, it's appreciation of our rights, our values, our history, our political institutions.
And we're not going to surrender that lightly.
And so I'm very pleased that President Trump has really taken this issue on.
talking directly about the evils of communism.
And as he said directly, you can be either a patriot or you can be a communist, right?
You can either be an American or you can believe in this totalitarian ideology.
That needs to be said.
And again, I'm very thankful he's making the case, as I am in a much obviously a more diminished way than he is.
I'm worried though that the frame that the other side has put on this is that
you have people saying I can't be around American flags people that wave American flags are
dangerous they're white supremacists that is the new that is the new frame on all this
as though there's someone who is advocating for Americanism as you frame it
describe it are somehow evil dangerous white supremacist this just keeps
going and you and the really disturbing thing for me is you you said engage with these people they
they won't engage they literally smile with a deep contempt this contemptuous smile people need to get
used to calling it out as opposed to engaging in ideas they'll go oh you're just you're you don't
understand how dare you or i can't talk to you those are the two front of two responses you get
So are there, other than keeping the heat up and creating awareness, it's almost like you have to sing to the choir to expand that group that's willing to step up and be a little louder.
Yeah, certainly. As you suggested earlier, there's an element of psychology here, right? Human psychology and how do you argue with those individuals? Well, I think that the way to argue with them is to essentially be fact-based, which is let's consider the history of communism. Let's consider these ideas. Communism has killed over 100 million people, at least over 100 million people, since it's existed since 1917.
It has led to unspeakable horrors, tyranny, and misery around the world.
So there's very strong empirical evidence, right?
So the theory doesn't work, and there's ample empirical evidence that it doesn't work.
And so you're right, the communists are always going to use new terms because they're expert at that, right?
That's a key aspect of their political warfare.
but we should not be on the back foot here, right?
We should answer in response that since 1776,
we have produced a society, a government, a country,
which allows us to exist as individuals
and has led to the greatest freedoms the world has known.
Well, I appreciate that you're talking about it,
you're writing about it, and you're willing to come here and discuss it with us.
It's always enlightening to me when you come around.
So thank you for giving us another dose.
My pleasure.
Thank you very much for having me.
Thank you.
Right there, everybody.
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I know.
Well, he's thought he's, he is in fact-based, as he said.
Yeah.
Well, I, and the propaganda, like, what we don't talk about is how China's propaganda
makes them look so good.
And it's a wonderful.
world. It's not. Move to China. Understanding the China threat is he's got three recent books
embracing communist China, America's greatest strategic failure, and then America's 100 years war,
how to win against communism. And engaged with facts. I, you know, I think of all of this as
the way, I mean, again, one of the favors that COVID did to us, it showed us about his mass
hysterias and mass formations. And I'll just remind people,
20% are true believers, and you're not really, it's hard to change that 20%.
There's only 10% that are like Brad Thayer and raise their hand and say,
something's wrong here.
The 70% that just want to live their lives need to be brought into this in an active way
and understand I was one of these somnolent individuals.
I didn't understand that I had to fight for my freedoms.
I'd heard that, but I didn't realize that it was literally something we would have to be fighting for,
but here we are.
We are there.
So I suggest that if you are amongst that 10%
that raises his or her hand
and says something is wrong here,
you talk to your friends
that are willing to listen.
I'm just looking at what you guys are saying here really quick
before I go to my next guest.
You guys have been really active on the stream today
and really interesting stuff and going there.
Oh yeah, the birth tourism thing is,
yeah, that's going to happen.
That is happening.
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We are talking a little bit about China coming up.
We're going to talk about Hollywood and its addiction to Beijing's money with Chris
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All right, Chris Fenton, author, film producer,
CEO of Media Capital Technologies,
author of Feeding the Dragon,
and the new movie is Bad Counselors in theaters, July 26.
second to the 27th, badcounsellors.com,
feeding the dragonbook.com as well.
And, of course, X is the dragon feeder.
Chris, welcome back.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Always a pleasure.
Tell us about bad counselors.
Well, bad counselors is sort of the opposite of what I talked about last time I was on
the show.
It was an act of passion to try to rectify some of the stuff we were doing
between the U.S. and China, which was offshoring.
of production and on top of it, talking propaganda narrative in our movies that was pleasing
Beijing. With bad counselors, it's just a PG-13 family comedy, summer camp comedy, really fun,
a great thing that you can take kids to, parents will enjoy because of the nostalgia feel.
And most importantly, 1,200 people it took to make this movie, all of them, Americans,
all our locations American, all of our vendors,
American. Every part of our ecosystem around this film was American. So it's 100% American made.
And it looks familiar. It looks like why you'd go to a movie to laugh and be entertained and
share with an audience as opposed to listening to these narratives and going, oh, my God.
Ugh. I feel like I'm being lectured out. And it's not even entertaining.
Well, the crazy thing is, is that when you're looking to the major studios, there's only
four or five comedies that were made that are intended for theaters this year, which is unbelievable.
I mean, we were talking 50 of them made, say, around 2010 or so. So it's a huge drop-off in comedy,
family comedy, those like cheaper by the dozen movies, that kind of a thing. So the company I work with
Loem Entertainment, we decided to really make a change in that. We financed this independently,
and we believe there's a real audience out there for American-made content.
Sort of the same way somebody wants to go out and buy a Harley-Davidson or really high-stylish pair of Levi's or a nice igloo cooler.
You know, there's a quality in the construction of anything that's American.
And we're really proud of this movie because of that.
You said that these narratives, I think people would call them woke narratives, was pleasing to China.
were they directing screenwriters to produce films like this?
Well, it depends on where you're talking about with the ideology and sort of this woke debate, right?
There's obviously the political ideology that's been infiltrating Hollywood storytelling for a long time.
But when we were first coming online in that market, I mean, 1997 was the shot heard around the world where China said, you can't make anything that has any sort of derogatory.
or offensive content in it.
And that's when we saw seven years in Tibet,
Kunun, various other movies that were banned,
and all the people involved of those movies were banned also.
We knew that we had to not only make things
that weren't offensive to Beijing,
but actually pleased them in terms of bringing the global narrative
and messaging out just, not just to their own people,
but around the world, which was really nefarious when you think about it.
And movies like, say,
that I was involved with.
And in fact, one of your earlier guests talked about it,
and you were riffing about it in between segments,
was this idea that we actually had lines in there
where we actually took the future of that movie out of France.
We made it China.
We changed the whole script to do that in order to please Beijing.
And then we actually had Jeff Daniels tell Joseph Gordon-Levitt,
as he slammed his fist down on a table.
He said, I'm from the future.
You want to move to China.
simply to say the future is where the weight of the world is moving to the east and China was going to be the leader of the world at that point.
How do you break the addiction to their money?
It feels like it almost needs a little legislative component to it, but I hate to think about that.
Well, the good thing is that, I mean, it's the silver lining.
We've lost the golden goose of the China market.
In fact, when we made Looper, you would see in 2012 anywhere from like 80 cents to the dollar, sometimes even more than that, 80 cents of every dollar that was made in that market was a Hollywood film.
Cut to today, it's less than 5%. So we've lost the market. That's because we taught them the best in class, you know, talents and the expertise that it takes to make movies.
And they're making their own movies for their own market way better than we can because it's way more relevant.
Perfect. And so given that that's the case, why is there, other than bad counselors,
is there a shift towards more entertaining storylines?
Yeah. Well, there's definitely a shift away from sort of the political ideology movies that we
had seen around COVID, which had turned off a lot of viewers. There's a lot more stuff that's
being focused on Americans, whether red or blue, with no political affiliation involved with the
films and just good, clean, fun. And that's what we did with bad counselors. On top of that,
we're pushing for an American film production incentive with President Trump, because it's the 250th
birthday of the United States of America. There's no better time to bring back filmmaking to the United
States again, because we do 60% of our production offshore, outside of the United States.
What's even more interesting is a lot of people believe California and Los Angeles is where the
big production hub is. But it's actually not. 80% of the movies and television that are made in the
U.S. are made in the heartland. They're made outside of California and Los Angeles. So a production
incentive would help spur growth and bring back production to a lot of places like, say, Georgia
where 75% of their soundstages are now either underutilized or completely empty. These are a lot of
big swing states for Donald Trump and for the Senate and the House Republicans. There's a real
opportunity to bring back jobs. We're talking about 3 million across the country and 250 billion in
wages. And it's a real opportunity to sort of go after some low hanging fruit, get some jobs back.
The incentive won't even have to touch the idea of building infrastructure or building facilities
because we have the best in the world already here, the best technology. In fact, Trillith Studios right
outside of Atlanta is the biggest in the world outside of Bollywood. And it has the most advanced soundstages
on earth. So you don't have to build anything. You don't have to train people. You simply have to
hire your fellow Americans. And that's how a federal incentive will be pushed forward and actually
help not only taxpayers, but the ecosystem around these productions. Yeah. And bring and expand
business in these regions. I last several television I've done has been in Canada.
or actually out of the country
and out of the continent.
But this group in Utah,
I forget the name of them,
has been producing films like this for a little while
and having huge success.
Both, yeah, Angel productions.
I mean, why isn't anyone sort of looking at that
and going, huh, maybe we could do that?
Well, you know, it's funny you bring that up
because actually after this movie
that we made Bad Counselors hits theaters,
it's going straight to Angel
on their streaming platform for six months exclusively.
And we really believe in what they're building there.
In fact, that young Washington movie that came out last weekend is a huge hit,
caught everybody by surprise, and is suddenly the talk of the town,
even though most people were sort of just discounting it and thought it never had a shot.
Yeah, it's like, they really have, what that is a symptom of is the open disdain they have
for the American audience.
There's just absolute disdain for it.
And we still have rules for the Academy Awards that are mind boggling, speaking of the American audience, to the average audience goer.
Is that going to be changed?
Or is that going to ultimately lead to the sort of marginalization of these awards?
Well, it is interesting.
I mean, there's certain movies, say like Iron Claw with Zach Ephron, which I thought was a fantastic movie and something he probably should have been nominated in.
but because of the story and the real characters that were involved,
it couldn't qualify for the diversity side of being nominated for Academy Awards.
And there's a lot of rumors, obviously, around Chris Nolan,
who I am a huge fan of, but this Odyssey film,
obviously there's a lot of talk about how it was cast in order to hopefully qualify for Oscars.
I don't know how true that is.
I haven't seen the movie.
You can't blame him for doing that.
I mean, not only is it patronizing to this.
it's patronizing to the award system, sure, but he's doing what he's being told to do by his
industry standards.
It's like living up to some standard that they are asking him to do.
So good.
And let's see what that end product looks like.
Yeah, I'm excited to see it.
I'm curious if the controversy holds.
And yeah, he's just a player playing the game and the rules that are given to him.
You can see why he's doing it.
There's a lot of money on the line when movies are.
nominated when they do win awards, it just brings the coffers that much fuller. So you can see why
he's doing it. But the fact is, there's a real push now to bring things back to the United States,
to put people back in jobs that have lost them. I mean, there's various stories, like even say
CBS Radford Studios, where you've probably done various shows over time. You know, that's a studio,
Seinfeld to Survivor. That studio went bankrupt recently. The kid,
Keys were handed back to Goldman Sachs.
It was once worth $1.8 billion.
Netflix is probably going to buy it for about $400 million right now.
That's a huge drop in value.
As long as they don't turn it into condos, part of it probably will be condos, I guess.
I did, amongst other things, I did Big Brother 1 there.
People forget that's where the Big Brother house is.
But I don't know where they're going to do it now.
Okay, well, this is very interesting, Chris.
I'm so glad that we brought up the Angel Studios
that you've made this film.
I look forward to seeing it.
I haven't sort of looked forward to a film
to be sort of, it sounds like it's a feel-good film, right?
It's a feel-good film.
It's a feel-good film.
We would love people to go out,
pre-buy their tickets now.
It gets us more theaters.
We're in about 700 around the country
and go to Badcounselors.com
to find the nearest theater.
And we hope we see you there
because it's a lot of fun.
Chris, thank you so much.
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Chris, hope to talk to you again soon.
Thanks for having me.
You got, of course.
Got a quick call.
I want to take from Janice.
Yeah, Janice.
Janice, appreciate you calling.
What can I do for you?
Hey.
Hey.
Hey, do you really think there's any chance of Fauci suffering any consequences after they do this next set of hearings?
I don't have faith that there will be real consequences, Janice.
I've said that quite, I don't know if I've said it out loud on this show, but I've said it wherever people have asked me about this.
I've also said that I know this is very disappointed people.
I've also said that I don't care because this is an 80, one or two-year-old man.
He's going to be gone pretty soon anyway.
I'm not out for blood.
I'm out for the truth.
And to the extent that he obfuscates, distorts, or gets in the way of us discovering the truth, that will enrage me.
That will make me quite angry.
But him having some specific, I think he will too.
And then I may talk differently about this, Janice.
I may speak differently about this when that or if that happens.
He also may just sit there and take the fifth, right?
Even though you can't really do that with his pardon,
but I still think he's going to do stuff like that.
And I'm certain he's going to have lots of advice
and he's going to have lots of fans.
You know, there are people out there that still idolize him
and thinks he was a hero during all this.
So it's going to be an interesting,
Do we need you know the date when that's coming?
Do we have a date for the hearing yet?
No, we haven't said it yet as far as I can tell.
Yeah.
I expect to be frustrated and on, I want to, I want to prepare everybody because here's
think about human beings is the more you can anticipate your pain or discomfort,
the easier it is to tolerate it.
So I'm going to tell everybody that expect frustration and discomfort with those here
hearings. But do the best you can to stay with Ron Paul.
Stay with Ron Paul. Let's applaud his efforts. But do not expect a lot of satisfaction.
If there is satisfaction, be grateful.
Yes, definitely.
Are you needing some sort of retribution for all that's happened?
Honestly, yes. The mask mandate, I have a panic disorder.
and the mask mandates set me over the edge.
I mean, I had to be those for air flight.
I get it.
I get it.
I had a panic disorder too when I was younger.
So I know how miserable panic is.
People don't.
I read a book once on panic disorders and they essentially said there's two kinds of people
in the world.
People that have known what a panic disorder is or panic attack is and people who've never had one.
And they are, they are, it's like literally, I liken it to being dropped in the
in the middle of the sea.
And that's it.
There you are.
And that's the feeling.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's rough.
But hopefully, you know,
let's all stay positive about as much we can
and be thankful that there is someone in our government who's
seeking the truth.
And let's see if we can find it and decrease the potential for anything like this
happening again.
Janice, thanks for the call.
Appreciate it very, very much.
Caleb, can we throw up what's coming next week?
We will be out tomorrow.
We have a question on Rumble.
What was the question?
Do you think Mitch McConnell is alive?
I think he's alive because Scott Jennings says he is.
But, you know, we have all, that's a really good question.
We have all seen him witnessed.
We have witnessed severe medical reactions in front of cameras.
He has been, he has had witnessed synchapy where he has collapsed and been on
unconscious. He has had these little spells where he seems to lose awareness of his surroundings
and sort of stares off into the distance and is unable to speak. Those are serious medical
events. They are associated with cardiac rhythm disturbances. They're associated with strokes.
They're associated with seizures and blood supply problems to the brain of all sorts, blood pressure
problems. And so he has got very, very, very severe medical issues, specific.
what they are, we have not been allowed to see. I'm just sort of speculating. I'm providing
broad stroke explanations for what these conditions are. Very easy for this to end him up in the
hospital for extended periods of time, things like implantable defibrillators and all kinds of stuff
in his future, I suspect, or maybe already happening, already happened. But according to Scott,
he spoke to him
and if he's able to speak
he's not on a ventilator
not only is he alive
he's not in imminent danger
of demise and so
that's good news he's also
apparently though I don't trust anybody
who says anymore somebody's in there
fit as a fiddle and never
been sharper and all that stuff
nonsense he's a very old man
he has obviously been sharper at different
times in his life but
he does not appear to be in a
life-threatening, imminently life-threatening situation.
Could it become imminently life-threatening?
Well, of course, because he's extremely old.
He's had some very severe medical conditions.
We don't know what's really going on with him,
but he does not appear to be brain-dead or all these rumors that seem to be flying around.
And could Scott be lying?
Yes, yes, he could.
We're getting used to that from our government.
We certainly have heard lies a lot from one side.
we will probably see more of it coming from the other side as well
because people start fighting fire with fire.
It's hard getting old.
Yep.
Yes, it is.
Yes, it is.
Anything else on Rumble or?
And it's so weird that like, you know, when this stuff happens,
they're not transparent.
Like, what is it that's going to happen if they're honest?
Susan, I'm just laughing at some of the...
Roddy McFart?
It's like...
I have a troll on there.
He has no idea who Drew is.
And I said, okay, body McFarts.
Oh, I thought it was actually somebody's troll name.
Somebody's name was Body McFarts.
It's a long story.
He was trying to say like weird,
you slandering words, and it didn't come up.
And then he got a time out by Caleb.
I was using slanderous words.
He was using weird.
He was using it.
I didn't even know what it meant until I figured it.
He was trying to.
But he couldn't get it through Rumble's filter.
Ah, interesting.
Very interesting.
Anyway, so he's the troll.
I told him I like batting trolls.
People don't know me very well.
I've had a long history of that on YouTube.
And honestly, I don't have a problem doing it.
But Caleb was the moderator today.
Greg the Baratone has an interesting comment on Restream.
He says, China's not fascist government.
Currently, that is California.
Oh, my God.
You've got a point there.
And what I think about these people in power that concern me with
their rhetoric and ideology.
We have them in Los Angeles.
We have them in the city council.
We have them in the mayor.
We have them already.
We have them in New York.
We have them.
We probably have them in the state assembly as well.
They're around.
So I guess it's not going to change things that much.
But the people are what is sovereign here.
And the people must start asserting themselves if they're tired of this stuff.
And certainly the quality of
let's put it this way at least.
The return on investment we're getting from our government is shit
and at least curtail what you're taking from us
in terms of our liberties and our property
if you're not going to give us something in return.
Pretty simple.
And everyone needs to kind of get involved with that.
Okay, so we're going to miss tomorrow.
I feel bad eyes of a lady.
I feel bad for Spencer Pratt too.
Yeah, but Spencer, I'm hearing that he is staying quite active politically and is making himself of use to other campaigns and other people.
Yes.
And so that's good.
And that videographer that he had or the video AI person he had is going to be rich because everybody wants to work with him now.
Yeah, that's true.
That's very true.
No, I love his message and I love that Los Angeles is getting some attention because it's pretty, it's pretty awesome.
here.
I mean, listen, we live in a bubble in Pasadena, but I love L.A.
I just wish that it could be more like, you know, some of the Floridian cities we've gone to.
You know, I'd like women with their babies to be able to walk through the streets with their baby carriages and have lunch and have a city that's thriving.
You know, why can't we have that?
I know.
It's so sad.
Let me read Greg the Baratone, who gave us that.
comment about California. In 2020,
Argentina tried rent control. Prices
sort of 140%.
Availability dropped 45%.
In 2023, Miele
repealed all that. Prices went down 40%.
Availability went up 212%.
Of course. Of course.
Just study your history, everybody.
And just the way it goes.
All right. Thank you so much for being here.
We return on Tuesday. Who is the guest
next Tuesday when we come back at 2 o'clock Pacific time?
Nick Freitas.
a full week next week.
Nick Freitas.
Winston Holm.
Uncle Cliff on Wednesday.
Joshua Lysack.
Great Naomi Wolf.
That's a big week.
So Brad Palumbo.
Congratulations to Taylor.
She's Miss Flora Obama.
Oh yeah.
She just won.
She's Miss Firecracker.
She won first place in a bikini contest.
If anyone wants to go see those photos of my wife,
she's BFF Taylor on Instagram.
Go give her some comments.
She'll love it.
Did she put it up on her,
her uh yeah she put up let's see i don't think i have i don't know if i have any of the photos
is it is it on ticot up on her i'm so proud of her yeah she did yeah it was pretty pretty awesome to see
i don't think i have any i love that caleb's like embracing this moment oh yeah i thought i
would have the total opposite reaction i thought it'd be completely different but uh all of a sudden she
won and i'm just looking around like wait wait did they just call number three and then i'm ushering
all of these like baby face college dudes.
I'm like, come on, come get a photo.
She's Miss Firecracker. Come get it.
Oh, wait, here it is. There's a photo. This is her.
This is her winning. She won Miss Firecracker.
And then there's proof that I'm still married to her.
That's me in my American flag shirt.
I have to provide proof to the college guys.
It looks better than me when I was 20 and won a bikini contest.
She's had two babies.
All right. I'm going to take her Pilates class now.
You can get that online too if you guys like Pilates.
That's a good idea.
Sure.
her Pilates. I hear people who love her Pilates.
Can you find the links on our Instagram?
Yeah, just Instagram, BFF Taylor.
All right, guys.
We have a good weekend. We will see you when we return.
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