Ask Dr. Drew - Bombshell Study Admits “Unexpected Vaginal Bleeding” RISES After mRNA Shots w/ Naomi Wolf, Joshua Guetzkow & Dr. Kelly Victory – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 272

Episode Date: October 9, 2023

A new study published in Science Advances finally admits what Naomi Wolf has been warning for years: “Non-menstruating women were more likely to experience unexpected vaginal bleeding after receiving COVID-19 vaccinations.” (Medscape) “The European Medicines Agency recently decided that the product information of the mRNA vaccines (i.e., Spikevax and Comirnaty) should be updated to include heavy menstrual bleeding as a potential side effect,” says the Science.org introduction. Naomi Wolf and Joshua Guetzkow join Dr. Drew and Dr. Kelly Victory to discuss the new study and to analyze the vaccine safety signals found in the VAERS database. Naomi Wolf is a bestselling author, columnist, and professor. She is recognized as one of the world’s most influential feminist writers. Wolf is a Rhodes Scholar, a graduate of Yale University, and received a doctorate from Oxford. She has written eight bestselling works of nonfiction, including The Beauty Myth, Give Me Liberty, and The End of America, and is co-founder and CEO of civic tech company https://DailyClout.io. Follow her at https://twitter.com/naomirwolf Preorder Naomi Wolf’s upcoming book “Facing the Beast: Courage, Faith, and Resistance in a New Dark Age ” on Amazon. Josh Guetzkow is a Senior Lecturer at Hebrew University. Follow him at https://x.com/joshg99 「 SPONSORED BY 」 Find out more about the companies that make this show possible and get special discounts on amazing products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get an extra discount with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew • PRIMAL LIFE - Dr. Drew recommends Primal Life's 100% natural dental products to improve your mouth. Get a sparkling smile by using natural teeth whitener without harsh chemicals. For a limited time, get 60% off at https://drdrew.com/primal • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew • BIRCH GOLD - Don’t let your savings lose value. You can own physical gold and silver in a tax-sheltered retirement account, and Birch Gold will help you do it. Claim your free, no obligation info kit from Birch Gold at https://birchgold.com/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 WITH DR. KELLY VICTORY 」 Dr. Kelly Victory MD is a board-certified trauma and emergency specialist with over 30 years of clinical experience. She served as CMO for Whole Health Management, delivering on-site healthcare services for Fortune 500 companies. She holds a BS from Duke University and her MD from the University of North Carolina. Follow her at https://earlycovidcare.org and https://twitter.com/DrKellyVictory. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician with over 35 years of national radio, NYT bestselling books, and countless TV shows bearing his name. He's known for Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Teen Mom OG (MTV), Dr. Drew After Dark (YMH), The Masked Singer (FOX), multiple hit podcasts, and the iconic Loveline radio show. Dr. Drew Pinsky received his undergraduate degree from Amherst College and his M.D. from the University of Southern California, School of Medicine. Read more at https://drdrew.com/about Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

and today of course we are joined by the great Naomi Wolf she joins us today to talk a little bit about the admission that has now been issued around the issues of menstrual irregularities related to the vaccine therapy and we'll bring Josh Getzko back he's got some material on the vaccine that we did not get a chance to get to last time also he's had a very recent interview by Dr. John Campbell, and I have some questions about that interview. I listened to part of it today. I do suggest you do follow Dr. Campbell. He's got some interesting interviews and some interesting problems that he's investigating as well. Of course, Dr. Kelly Victory is here with us. I'll be watching you out on the Rumble

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That is D-R-D-R-E-W dot com forward slash TWC to get 10% off today. Just click on that link. So let me tell you a little bit about our guest today. Josh Getzo is a senior lecturer at hebrew university uh sociologist uh and uh he uh is hang on of course i ran a foul of his um well it's not in here how about that that's why i ran a foul of it we've talked to him before he's a phd uh he is a good an analyst of data, and he has some questions about some of the VAERS data in particular.

And, of course, our friend Naomi Wolf joins us as well, best-selling author, columnist, professor, one of the world's most influential feminist writers, Rhodes Scholar, graduate of Yale, received a doctorate from Oxford, eight best-selling works. Of course, her legendary book, Beauty Myth, is out there. You can follow her at dailyclout.io.

Also on Twitter, which is Naomi R. Wolfe. I beg your pardon. She'll be in here in just a second. Let me welcome, of course, Dr. Kelly Victor will join us in a few minutes as well. Let's welcome Josh Getzko for a second here. Thanks, Josh. Josh, I wanted to talk to you ahead of time about what data you wanted to present to us that we did not have a chance to get to last week when you joined us.

Yeah, no problem. Really, what I was hoping to share with you was something that I don't think has gotten nearly enough attention. So a lot of people talk about VAERS and the increase in reporting, the incredible unprecedented increase in reporting of adverse events and serious adverse events and deaths to the vaccine adverse event reporting system since the rollout of the COVID-19 vaccine. And basically the CDC has done a safety signal analysis of that data and did not release it to the public what they found. And what they found was very, very concerning.

They found over 770 safety signals for many different adverse events, some not such a big deal like it hurt my arm, I had pain at the injection site, but many of the adverse events are extremely serious. It might be worth taking a second to step back to tell you a little bit about the story of how this all came out. OK, back in 2021, I started looking at the VAERS data and also from Europe and the UK. And you see this huge increase in reporting and you start to tell people about it. And one of the first things that you'll hear is, well, we're vaccinating a lot of people. So, of course, we're going to get a lot of reports, but it's just incidental, right? It's just anything that happens to How do they tease apart sort of, you know, when do we get worried? Okay. And I found that some papers they published with their methodology,

it's a very simple methodology. Here's what you basically do. If you have a new vaccine, you look at what percentage of the reports for that vaccine are for a particular adverse event. So let's say myocarditis. Okay. So let's say, and then you look at what proportion of reports for that event do you have out of all of the reports for this new vaccine? And you compare that to the proportion of some comparative vaccine that's been around for a long time, like the flu vaccine or all vaccines

or something like that. So imagine 50% of your adverse events that are reported for this new vaccine are for myocarditis, but in the past, only 25% of the reports were for myocarditis. Oh, we have a signal. We have a safety signal because we have a larger proportion of events being reported for that particular adverse event. Okay. It's very simple, basic math. And so I just did that. And

I looked at, you know, what the signals were and I found lots of hundreds of very concerning safety signals. I went a step further and I said, well, maybe there's something here going on with the number of doses. Let's look at how many reports are we getting per million doses that are being given out. And what I did is I compared COVID vaccines to flu vaccines because like COVID vaccines flu vaccines are also given out to elderly people and so it allows us to sort of I was able to compare different age groups and still I found very concerning safety signals and there was I mean it was like flashing bright you know hit you right between the eyes kind of thing there was no way to make the signals go away.

I said, well, if I'm seeing these signals and I'm using the CDC's methodology, then the CDC must be seeing something, right? They must be seeing safety signals. And so together with a legal team at Children's Health Defense, we FOIA'd the CDC because beginning of 2021, they put out a document on their website, how they were going to go about doing safety signals, a safety signal analysis for the new COVID vaccines. And they said, every week, we're going to do this type of comparison that I just explained to you. It's called PRR, proportional reporting ratios. So we FOIAed them. Well,

what did you find in these proportional reporting ratios? It finally got back to us in the spring, March of 2022, and said, well, actually, we didn't do it. We didn't do a safety signal analysis of VAERS. And I was dumbstruck. I mean, this level of malfeasance was stunning to me because they had promised everybody that they were doing everything they possibly could to monitor VAERS. They promised Congress that they were going to use this. VAERS is our early warning signal. And they completely ignored it.

Go ahead. But they didn't ignore it. They shunted it over to the FDA. They gave the responsibility to the FDA. And so let me just tell you, Joseph Freeman has recorded interviews now with the FDA that we have heard. And on that interview, one of the many things that was actually just beyond astonishing was one of the pediatric

consultants on the line from UCLA had reported several months before a sudden pediatric death within a day or two of the vaccine and had repeatedly tried to reach the FDA for their comment analysis, further investigation. And their comment was, oh, it must have fallen through the cracks. I mean, they should have been, oh my God, it's a five-year-old that died. We need to figure this out, see what happened. They're like, yeah, fell through the cracks. And what Freeman found out was, he asked your very question, how do you determine that these safety signals are related to the vaccine, right?

That's the question you're asking. And you know what their response was? Well, that's not the question that I'm asking. Well, let me tell you, just so you know. All right, good, I'll get your question clarified. But this was the question I had thought you were asking, which was, what are you doing with these safety signals that jump out?

First thing is, are they related to the vaccine? And Freeman asked that, and their response was, how do we analyze it? Well, we got a guy. We got a guy that goes out and looks at it. We got a guy, one guy. One human being is charged with the responsibility to do something that is actually impossible. What I keep saying is, what if they had a guy that was there to determine whether Vioxx caused

heart attacks or not? Well, their guy might have said, no, I think Vioxx is fine. Instead, we have a multi-billion dollar suit and multiple people dead for the impropriety with which they overlook that data. And then they didn't attempt to have a guy brush it aside. They just ignored it straight away. In this case, they're ignoring it by sending a guy out to look at it. It's astonishing. It's astonishing what's going on. I'd rather they only paid one guy than 100 guys to reach the same conclusion, right?

At least they're saving us money. They're not going to do their job one way or another. I mean, we've just seen – this is a captured agency, right? At least they're saving us money. They're not going to do their job one way or another. I mean, we've just seen, you know, this is a captured agency, right? This notion of agency capture is a standard concept of political science. And we see that, you know, in every day in every way. But the question that I was asking wasn't, are these safety signals related to the vaccine? That's the second step step or one of the second steps. But first you have to find a safety signal, but you won't find a safety signal if you're not looking for it.

And the CDC wasn't even looking for safety signals. It's at that level of malfeasance. Okay. Now, um, later a journalist, um, Zach Stieber at Epoch times followed up on this and he was told something similar to what you said, which is well, uh, that, uh, okay. First of all, he, he was told that they did start a safety signal analysis. Coincidentally, about a week after they answered us and told us that they didn't do a safety signal analysis. Coincidentally, about a week after they answered us and told us that they didn't do a safety signal analysis, they did it for a few months and they told him we stopped because we were finding the same thing that the FDA was finding. The FDA uses a slightly different methodology. And so there was no reason to do that. And it took him like another five months

to get the results of the safety signal analysis that they did. And the results are stunning. Take a look. I brought a graph, a graphic summary I did of sort of some of the largest safety signals. This would be captioned, this would be number four, slide number four. And this just gives you a sense of the major categories of adverse events that the CDC itself found. And these are in the, so the tens of thousands, these are the numbers of reports within these, all of these different types of these major categories of adverse events, the total, you know, tens of thousands of different adverse events. Let's talk for, let's look at the cardiovascular one, which is the next slide, just to give you a sense of,

well, you know, so you've got atrial fibrillation and myocarditis, cardiac failure, cardiac arrest, these are very, very serious safety signals. And there's something I should point out here is that so myocarditis gives a safety signal and we know, and it's been admitted that the, that myocarditis is connected to the vaccine. Well, two thirds of all of the safety signals that they found were stronger than the safety signal for myocarditis. So a question for you, for anybody, any reasonable person listening to this is why hasn't the CDC told anybody about this? And why haven't they followed up on the safety signal? You might remember late last year, there was this notification that went out all over the place about the safety signal that they had after the bivalent boosters there was maybe a stroke signal okay and it was plastered all over the median I

said well we're looking into it but it looks like it was a false signal and it's not really work but they had a huge plan of all the research they were going to do to follow up on it and make sure that it was okay. You know how many signals of stroke they found in their safety signal analysis of the regular vaccines? 26 different safety signals. And that would be on slide nine that I sent. Well, hold on. Before you go ahead, before you move it, oh my goodness. There they are. What?

So, but stroke is stroke, right? It's just, it's the anatomical distribution. It's all the same thing. You know, well, transverse sinus thrombosis is a little different. The coons are a little different. But, you know, where the infarct occurs is, you know, what it is. It's just, you know, the infarct occurs is you know what it is it's just you know there's hyper you know the hyper uh metabol hyper coagulation but hang on go back to the cardiac stuff because

what's interesting on that is that if you add up if you put together no no no the cardiac all cardiac events there you are if you put atrial fibrillation, irregular heartbeat, myocarditis, pericarditis, cardiac flutter, ventricular ecstasystoles, those are all the same thing. Those are all the same. Those are all caused by focal myocarditis. All of it. It's all the same thing. And I've seen a ton of it clinically.

Interestingly, I've seen none of it in elderly. None of it. And a lot of it in young. And that should be even more alarming because guess what? The elderly have a ton to be gained from this vaccine. So they might be willing to take a little more risk, but they're not even taking this risk. Could you have the age breakdown was going to be my question because I'm betting 90% of this was under the age of 60. I don't have, so the CDCs, this is just, I'm just taking numbers from the CDC. This isn't all of, by the way, this isn't all the cardiovascular signals that they found.

These are just kind of the top ones. But they don't break it down by age. It's all caused by myocarditis. In my safety signal analysis that I did in the fall of 2021, late summer, I did break it down by ages. And I looked at the 65 plus group and there were also very strong concerning safety signals for death for the different adverse events that I looked at. I keep hearing that from Steve Kirsch. I keep hearing that from him, and I just don't see, I just haven't seen it clinically yet, but I've certainly seen it. There's like 15, 40-year-olds like crazy, all of this, and it's all, and there's actually some papers out now that show that most of all those rhythm

disturbances, maybe even including sudden death, which I don't have an opinion on yet because we don't have the data, but is due to a focal scarring from myocarditis. So the myocarditis gets mixed, missed, and then the rhythm disturbances kick in a few years later, a few months later. Question is, does COVID do the same thing? Well, some people have said it does do the same thing. Does it do it at the same rate? I don't see it. I haven't seen it, but it might. But somebody's got to do these studies. No one's doing it. But hang on, Josh. We've got to do a total break here. There are a number of studies that show that the myocarditis induced by the vaccine is more frequent and more problematic. I have seen that. There are some studies that will, you know, differ from that.

But there's also studies that say that COVID is more likely to do it, but there really are no head-to-head kinds of studies because they're almost impossible to do. I don't know how they do it. But I mean, how are you going to distinguish COVID from vaccine from COVID plus vaccine in a world where everyone has had COVID and the vaccine? How are you going to do that? Absolutely. And so it's very, very difficult. It's very difficult. We're going to take a break. Go ahead, finish your thought, and then we'll take the break.

That's fine. Go ahead. Okay, because I've got to get Naomi in here, I've got to get Kelly Victory in here, and I'll pull back a little bit. I've got some questions, but finish up. All right, and we'll do that right after the break bring everybody in here fall is right around the corner which means dry flaky red skin from allergy season

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lot of delay because Josh, poor josh is maybe 10 or 11 hours ahead on a time zone far far away but we appreciate him being here you can by the way follow him on x at josh g99 and the sub stack is i hope i'm getting this right jack a napes n-a-p-e-s dr i've changed it it's it's research rebel dotcom. It's a little easier on the tongue, you know, rolls off the tongue a little easier. Okay. Well, welcome, welcome, Josh. Really happy to have you back. And I appreciate you putting up with the late hour where you are. I know our viewers will find this shocking, but I'm actually going to push back a little bit on what you guys were just talking about. I reject the idea that we do not have data and evidence that these myocarditis cases

are a result of the vaccine, not COVID, Drew. And we've got Peter McCullough coming back Wednesday next week on the 11th, and he can speak more authoritatively than I with regard to this. But the studies are very clear that the people who have suffered sudden cardiac arrest, for example, absolutely myocarditis that is vaccine induced. And they also have now plenty of autopsy data, unfortunately, that shows very clearly that the spike protein that is causing the myocarditis is vaccine induced spike. We have the stains that show you are able

to differentiate clearly between vaccine induced spike protein and virus spike protein. They stain differently. The nucleocapsid is different. So you can say very clearly the spike proteins that are globbed up in the myocardium are a result of the vaccine, not the virus. And as I said, I'll leave it to Peter next week to really speak. That's really the main topic I want to address with him is to put to bed the idea that these are COVID-related cardiac injuries rather than vaccine-related.

So I'll leave it at that for a second. I share your apoplexy, Josh, regarding the CDC's abdication of duty to investigate the VAERS reports. Let me just clarify one thing you said, which is that VAERS is our early warning system. No, theirs was their early warning system. They own that system. They designed it. The CDC, NIH, and HHS own that. It's not like a bunch of tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxxers like you

and me, you know, created this system. This is, I said, that was tongue in cheek, by the way. This is their system. This is, I said, that was tongue in cheek, by the way. This is their system. They own it. They are obligated to investigate it. So not only have they not looked at the virus data, but then during COVID, they created this whole second system of early warning sign called V-safe. And they were going to optimize the cell phone, the idea that everybody was going to sign up on their cell phone and within hours and days and weeks after the vaccine, they could report in real time any bad events or any ill effects they were having from the vaccines. After a period of time, they just stopped that study, they shut down the v-safe system, and

they have never reported out the data from v-safe. So two questions for you. Number one, have you been able to get your hands on any of the data? Because if it were good, I promise you, if it were good, we'd be hearing all about it. Have you been able to get your hands on any of the data that they clearly captured from v-safe? And then the second question is, when you look at the VAERS data, are you seeing a decrease in reports, an increase in reports?

What's the trajectory of the reports coming? So two questions I'll throw to you right there. Well, the V-safe data, they only released the, essentially the immunogenicity data, which is sort of a preset number of, I think about eight to 12 different questions. You know, did you have swelling? Did you have a fever? Did you have this? And that's been analyzed, you know, the Informed Consent Action Network got a hold of that. And that's been analyzed sufficiently. What hasn't been released are the open field questions where people could type in what they wanted or what they were experiencing. And that hasn't been released um nor has the pregnancy data there have been reports you know the cdc reports on that i just want to let you know that my battery

looks like it's about to die and my for some reason my plug isn't working so if you lose me uh oh well um and then uh when you say pattern of reporting over time in VAERS, what timeframe are we talking about here? What it meant was just in terms of the pure numbers, when we know when the vaccine program was rolled out, we were seeing an just overwhelming number of reports to VAERS of all different sorts of things. Are those numbers continuing to go up or down? Well, no, because people are not, you know, they're, they're up, they're higher than, than, than, than in the past, you know, historically, but we're, because people are getting fewer injections,

there are fewer reports. But there's a huge, there's still a backlog of reports and there are new reports coming in, like, you know, people who died two years ago, suddenly their reports are showing up. It's interesting, though, because there was a huge influx. So in August 2020, the CDC contracted with a big company to increase the, to get ready for the deluge of reports. They were expecting, instead of getting a thousand reports a week, they were expecting to get a thousand reports a day. Instead of 5% serious adverse events, they were expecting 40% adverse events.

That was in August of 2020. Why were they expecting that already back then? That's a good question. But even though they paid them like $10 million and they hired all these people, they immediately experienced a deluge that they couldn't even come up with. You can see that in picture number three that I sent you from an internal report from that company to the CDC showing this huge spike, you know, very early on that they, they couldn't get out and they ended up having to renegotiate the contract,

hire a bunch more people. And it took them six months just to go through the backlog of reports. And yet the CDC will tell you all the time that they are not seeing any safety signal. I mean, this is what is known as interocular trauma, okay? It hits you between the eyes and there's no getting away from it. People dismiss VAERS and they say, well, anybody can report to VAERS. The quality of the data, you can't trust it. But like you said, it's the CDCs and the FDA system. If they had a problem with it, they should fix it. But they don't. In fact, they use the data to publish in top medical journals like JAMA and Lancet. And so, you know, if there's really, if the data are really that poor quality, they shouldn't be able to publish them in those top medical journals, right? So it doesn't make any sense in any way.

We don't make a decision about a safety signal based on one or two or three reports. You look at the total number of reports, you do this mathematical comparison. It's very straightforward and it doesn't depend on the number of reports you're getting. It depends on the proportion. And in fact, the more reports you get, the more it's likely to drown out safety signals. So people who say, well, there's so many new reports and it's just the number of people getting vaccinated, they don't know what they're talking about.

It just doesn't work like that. And I want to have to, yeah. As you say, I want to bring Naomi into this conversation because there are specific things we want to talk about. Right, and I want to bring Naomi into this conversation because there's specific I think a really nice transition to what Naomi's going to talk about is that the safety signals for that are related to menstruation that's picture number eight that I sent and this was the top sort of menstrual adverse events that were reported for menstruation issues. Right. And you see all of these, all of these things that were just dismissed early on. I remember an article in a newspaper in Israel in like February that was talking about this because it was happening.

It was so frequent, you know, you couldn't hand it. So they had to address it somehow. And they basically said it's probably just stress, but we'll look into it. But it's probably just, you know, women being hysterical or whatever. Well, the reason I asked the question, Josh, about the trajectory of the reports to VAERS is because one of my many fears about this whole thing is that as time goes by, as the period of time from people's vaccination extends, that people and certainly doctors who already want their head in the sand and already have blinders on and already don't want to acknowledge that these are vaccine related, people won't connect the dots. So if all of a sudden you're nine months, 12 months, 18 months past your last shot and

you are diagnosed with a turbo cancer or you all of a sudden have a fertility issue, do people still say, this may well be a vaccine related side effect? And so my fear is that the reports to VAERS will drop off when the inclination of the powers that be is already say see you know that everything's get back to normal we're all okay carry on nothing to see here I when it when in fact many of the things that we are seeing the ill effects and disease processes are in fact you know just a delayed effect of the of the vaccine absolutely you know, just a delayed effect of the, of the, of the vaccine.

Absolutely. And, you know, we talked last week, last week about how short the actual, um, you know, clinical trial of Pfizer's clinical trial was and how they quickly vaccinated the placebo group. So there's no long-term studies there. VAERS won't capture long-term effects because people don't put two and two together. And the way that they study adverse events using medical record data, right? The CDC does this other, there are many studies that do this. They all look at a very narrow window, like first four weeks, six weeks after vaccination. And here's the trick.

They say, is the number of adverse events or the number of medical problems people are looking at, and they usually only look at a dozen or so, is it higher in the, say, four to eight weeks after the vaccination than it is in the next period after vaccination? So if you go from zero to four weeks, let's compare that to four to eight weeks. Do we see a higher, but what if it's high in both periods, then you're not going to see, you're not going to find a safe, you're not going to find a problem there because your, your comparison is all messed up. And that's, that's basically what most of these studies do where you say, oh, I, we published in JAMA that there was no problem. Well, yeah, but your methodology, you know, is highly problematic. So it's, yeah. Let's take a break here, Drew, and get Naomi in.

Yeah, I agree. Okay, and we just bring her straight as she is. Naomi, welcome as always. And I was watching a little video before we all got in here of my last apology to you. So do I need to apologize again or for anything else? I'm getting used to it, and I find it rather satisfying now when you're right. Dr. Drew, you know, it's after Yom Kippur, and I think you're in a really much better position

than just about every other male doctor in the world. Maybe there are six of them who have, you know, recognized what a serious issue this is, and you're the only one who's actually apologized for not recognizing it sooner. So I think you're in good shape morally. You're being kind. You're being kind by saying I did not recognize it sooner.

I recognized it when you reported it, and I dismissed it. It was worse. I dismissed what you were telling me. And that's really what was inexcusable. I was very dismissive and that's not okay. The hubris is the enemy right now for all of us. And there was my bit of hubris creeping in. But Naomi, I wonder if you noticed on the data that Josh threw up there, and Caleb, if you can put it up again, the menstrual data, slide eight, it's all the same thing. Every single one of those observations is menstrual irregularity of varying degrees with varying frequencies and varying sort of manifestations. But it's all, it's called menometroraja. It should be one category, which is heavy, irregular, or no, or painful. It's all the same.

Or more frequent, or postmenopausal, it's all the same. So literally, they're dividing it up into 10 different categories and going, oh, hey, look, there's no big problem here with, say, intramenstrual bleeding. It's a smaller degree of number of people. And in fact, it's all the same thing. Yeah, they used, I mean, many of your viewers know that for the last nearly two years, I've been overseeing a group of 3,250 doctors and nurses and scientists who are going through the tens of thousands of Pfizer documents released under

court order, and they've issued 85 reports. And one of the reports has kind of a mirror image of this slide from the Pfizer documents as opposed to from VAERS. And it also breaks down horrible things happening to women's menstrual cycles in these sort of slices, right? But there's like 10,000, 15,000 women in each kind of cell or line, bleeding every day, not bleeding at all, passing tissue, agonizing cramps. I guess what I would say if we're on a journey together, Dr. Drew, of really hearing women, I agree with you. You're making the point, and I think it's the right one,

that by teasing out these different subcategories of women suffering menstrually and getting basically menstrual disease, I mean, we need to coin new language for it, right? right because a it's never happened before like this in human history and be no one takes what happens to women men's truly seriously in the first place so we have inadequate language but apart from your very good point that by teasing these problems with menses into subcategories they're playing with the math to make it look less alarming.

I would say that as a woman, these are all really different and equally, I mean, it's a chamber of horrors, right? And so it's one chamber of horrors if your period goes away altogether and you can never have a baby, right? It's another kind of chamber of horrors. And actually Israel was the source of this because in Israel, you have communities that track menstrual cycles very carefully because they're Orthodox Jews. And so sexual relations between husband and wife can only resume after a woman has stopped menstruating, had a mikvah ritual bath and kind of been sort of made sure that she is done with her period. So in Israel, women are asking their rabbis for dispensation from sexual intercourse with their husbands because they're vaccinated husbands because they're getting such agonizing menstrual cramps

after having sex with their vaccinated husbands. And that is something that was referenced in the Pfizer documents, the vaccinated men. There's something in the sperm of vaccinated men. Is this all in Facing the Beast also, Naomi? Is it in the new book, Facing the Beast? A fair amount of it is. lives are being ruined through something that is being, you know, that I think is being minimized even now that studies are, you know, two and a half years late confirming that women are having problems with their menstrual cycles. I guess what I'm trying to stress is that this is not

just menstrual dysregulation, you know, no language that the scientific establishment is using now, even though they are grudgingly admitting that I was right in June of 2021, when my life was turned upside down by accurately saying on Twitter, women are having menstrual problems. I guess what I'm trying to say is these are disabling conditions, many of them. Bleeding every day is a disabling condition. So let me ask you a question. Real quick, Kelly, real quick. I want to apologize again because you're making me realize not only was I dismissive,

like, oh, no, we see menstrual regularities all the time. I was dismissive on another level, which is I wasn't taking this seriously because you know women and their menstrual cycles. I mean, I was guilty of that also. Thank you. So I'm, as usual, we can all do better. And this is a great opportunity to examine ourselves on this.

And as a male physician, I, A, shouldn't have dismissed your observation. Thank you. And B, we all should be not so dismissive about women and their menstrual functioning. It's something that we are casual about at best. So thank you for refining that. Kelly, go ahead. I'm sorry. You're very welcome. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, Dr. Victory, go ahead. Well, I was going to say, let me take this a little bit different direction. I agree with you wholeheartedly. And we were seeing this clinically, Naomi, and I have said from the

beginning that I anticipated we would see huge problems related to these vaccines and fertility and reproductive issues. And sure enough, we are. So there are two big questions, two big elephants, I think, in the room. Number one is addressing the why, what is it about these vaccines that is causing this huge array of fertility and menstrual issues. But another thing that no one is addressing is that if we just assume, oh, these are all related to the vaccine, that's fine. But women who are having abnormal menses of all of these sorts, all of these categories, require a workup for lots of other things.

Let me tell you right now, post-menopausal women who start bleeding, you can't just say, wow, that's an awful vaccine injury. We need to do endometrial biopsies to make sure they don't actually have uterine cancer. Young women, so all of these people need a cancer workup. All of these women need workups for polycystic, you know, ovary disease. They need workups for all kinds of things.

This isn't just a simple, oh, look how awful the, which it is awful, but the reality is we have now tens of thousands, millions of women, hundreds of thousands, I don't know what the actual numbers are, who now need really extensive full soup to nuts workups to find out what is causing this, is a deposition of the spike proteins. But we have just opened a can of worms that I don't even know where you begin with women's health to start addressing this, because these are not simple workups. The idea of doing an endometrial biopsy in every postmenopausal woman which is your obligation if you're having bleeding after menopause it is cancer until proven otherwise I mean it's that is cancer until proven otherwise you know

just think what that is going going to mean so you know I'll let you I'll hand it back to you Naomi because you've got lots to talk about about the actual data but I'm throwing that out there. I'm so glad you did. Thank you, Kelly. I mean, it's everybody knows, like how does everybody not know that postmenopausal bleeding is a terrible warning sign of terrible things that are wrong?

And so I guess when you're speaking, you know, you're absolutely right. And what I would say there is by turning menstruation which was a healthy process and a sign of a woman's health into a disease state like moving it over into a disease state what you've just described is going to bring billions of dollars to you know in addition to the medical industry right all those tests and I also want to add on the emotional side, the fear every time you have, not just the fear that you might have cancer if you're a postmenopausal woman bleeding, but if your period is so irregular and you're trying to have a baby, then every month when you have

spotting or two periods a month or all the weird multiplication of periods that you see in the Pfizer documents, you're going to think you've lost the baby. You probably have lost that pregnancy. And if you're trying not to get pregnant, then every time you don't get your period on time, you're going to have a pregnancy test. You're going to freak out. You're going to have a horrible discussion with your boyfriend or your husband. You know, you're going to go to an abortionist, I mean, or, you know, make plans for having a baby that you're not anticipating or it's not coming at a time that you want. Um, it's, it's, it basically, I'm trying to describe women's lives being turned to hell, turned upside down with every single one of these,

you know, neutral sounding little categories on these scientific documents, whether it's VAERS or in the Pfizer documents. And as a woman, right? So good. Shannon, shocker, women being ignored about problems only they experience. This led me to what I wanted to say to the men in this discussion. And I'm so glad the men are here, but it's been like a weird two years because for two years, I've been trying, as you see, to raise the alarm about this. And mostly the men who will speak to me are religious Christian and Jewish priests and rabbis. The liberal men don't care about it, won't talk about it. The medical establishment didn't care about it, won't talk about it. So I appreciate you gentlemen. But what I was going to say is, it's literally like if a bunch of men were saying, you know, my penis, I'm having a discharge from my penis or my testicles, there's

like lumps on my testicles, or I'm having problems with erection, you know, or problems with ejaculation, you know, or I'm not sure I'm fertile anymore. It would be like the universe would stop functioning until everyone found out what was wrong with the penises and testicles of men. And I just put that there. Well, truly, as I said, I'm trying to elevate this to, it's absolutely debilitating for women and the impact on them, but the implications, potentially the health implications are profound. Let's talk just about the issue of fertility. We know, and you and I have been talking about this, we've reported on it before, that if you look at birth rates around the world, they are down universally in those countries that

have been highly vaccinated. Most of Western Europe is down somewhere in the range of 6% to 9%. Certain places like Taiwan was down 26%. The United States birth rates are down somewhere around 7%. And interestingly, we do not see those decreases in birth rates in places like sub-Saharan Africa that were largely not vaccinated for COVID. So let's just talk about the impact of fertility and what you're seeing there, independent of all the horrific things people are, you know, not that not being able to get pregnant if you wanted to get pregnant isn't horrific, but let's talk just about what you're seeing in terms of fertility rates. Yes. Thank you. So Facing the Beast does go into detail about this because I think this is the greatest issue facing humanity right now. Those numbers are the right range, you know, and Igor Chudov, who's a mathematician on Substack, has some pretty comprehensive essays that I cite in Facing the Beast, which show, and they're from government databases,

which show that there are basically a million missing babies, a million missing live births in Western Europe. And he also shows a 13 to 20% drop in live births, especially in Western Europe and North America. And it's not like it's not rocket science. know we know basic biology I mean one of the things that's clearly happening with all of this it's not just menstrual dysregulation right as I understand what menstruation is if you bleed in the middle of what your cycle or you bleed postmenopausal II there's something wrong with your uterine lining you're're like your uterine lining is being fed or dissolved in some way. And so that matters because the way you have babies,

if you're of childbearing age, is that a blastocyte attaches to the uterine wall, right? So something's destabilizing the uterine wall with these vaccines. So that implantation of the blastocyte is is more difficult and I guess when you were asking about What could be the mechanism our? Volunteers reports have identified the Pfizer documents for that matter which are so clearly focused on messing up women's menstrual cycles Like it's like the centerpiece of the Pfizer documents. That's why I say it's intentional. But there are two mechanisms people should know about. One is,

although all the CDC and the spokespeople said that the injection materials stay in your deltoid, they don't. And Pfizer knew that, and the CDC knew that, and the FDA knew that. And so the Pfizer documents show, and we've talked about this, a biodistribution. This confirms finding that Steve Kirsch and Brett Weinstein found a couple of years ago, biodistribution of the materials throughout the body. But they especially accumulate in the ovaries. So you've got, and this includes lipid nanoparticles, which are an industrial fat covered in polyethylene glycol, which is a petroleum product. So these are accumulating in your ovaries.

And like, I'm an English major and I see what's wrong with this, right? Because a fatty substance covered in a toxin is accumulating in your ovaries with the first shot. Our volunteers have found no way in which lipid nanoparticles leave the body. Then they accumulate more with a second shot in your ovaries. Then with the first booster, they're gonna accumulate more.

And I have whistleblowers, nurses, and midwives writing to me saying that they, in surgery, for completely unrelated things abdominally, are seeing blocked fallopian tubes in vaccinated women. So there's like almost a mechanical, you know, blockage of the ovaries. Yeah. You guys, we don't really know yet.

We are seeing all these things that are candidate potential mechanisms. And I know, Kelly, you and I spoke to Ryan Cole, who showed us slides of not just ovarian accumulation of both spike and lipid nanoparticles. He also showed us intrauterine thrombosis, right? There's something, there may be, it might've been Thorpe that showed us that, that there's something going on in terms of the clotting mechanisms affecting the lining of the uterus. So there's three mechanisms right there. There's a fourth now, which is getting on people's radar, which is plasmids. Plasmid story has yet to be told.

And there may be DNA plasmids binding and releasing from the ovaries actually causing this. Have you heard that theory, Naomi? Oh, a couple of things. I mean, you're right on it, Dr. Drew. So the story we broke a couple of days ago on Daily Cloud was that the White House knew about high levels of thrombotic thrombocytopenia, blood clots, lung clots, leg clots, as well as myocarditis in May of 2021, freaked out, drove an emergency meeting with Dr. Walensky, Dr. Fauci to create a script, which is completely redacted, to deal with, quote, tough QA about, quote, COVID. So yes, and the Pfizer documents also show blood clotting, clotting problems are rife with the vaccine.

And what is uterine lining and menstruation? It's a blood issue, right? So you're right that that's one mechanism. And I guess the last thing I want to say is I went to Kevin McKernan's lab a couple of days ago with my husband as the cameraman. thing I want to say is I went to Kevin McKernan's lab a couple of days ago with my husband as the cameraman and he showed me the the vials of Moderna and Janssen by the way Moderna is cloudy which is really interesting and creepy

you can kind of see the thickness and the grayness of the viscosity of the liquid and he has found he's a founder of medicinal genomics. He does PCR testing and he found plasmids and fragments of DNA in the Moderna vial. So he was explaining to me what that does. I don't know yet the effect that that would have on menstruation, but it can't be good. And I guess the last thing I would say about a possible mechanism is that lipid nanoparticles traverse membranes and they traverse every membrane in the human body. So that they are going to, if they traverse every membrane, Dr. Thorpe shows placentas that have been ruined. Independent

wives we're in touch with are confirming this because these lipid nanoparticles are traversing them. So if you've got something traversing membranes of the human body, you've got something else that could be destabilizing the uterine lining and the uterine environment. There's no question that we have known, and Drew and I did a show over a year ago now, Drew, just on lipid nanoparticles. We've known for decades that lipid nanoparticles are very problematic, particularly to the reproductive organs. As you said, Naomi, Pfizer knew, and we know because we have the study out of Japan, well before the vaccines were launched to the public, they knew darn well that the material did not stay in the deltoid muscle of the arm

and that it traveled 11% of it concentrating in the ovaries and testes. So between the mRNA and the lipid nanoparticle, we knew that there was going to be trouble in those hormone producing organs of the testes and the ovaries. The other thing I will mention that I would throw out there in terms of back to this issue of birth rates and fertility, and I raised the alarm flag about this again before the

vaccines were ever launched, which is that one of the portions of the spike protein that you are intended to make antibodies to bears a remarkable resemblance to a protein that is required for placental development called synctin-1. And therefore, I said, if you create antibodies, as you are intended to do to the spike protein, I guarantee there will be some crossover and those antibodies will think that the placenta is also foreign and they will attack the placenta and they will keep it from implanting and developing. And sure enough, that is exactly what we are seeing is an autoimmune attack on the placenta. And I think this is likely contributing significantly to spontaneous miscarriages and the failure

to implant. So I think it was predicted, it happened, and they simply won't address it. So I think when you look at the placental issues, you're seeing, as you said, autoimmune issues plus these horrific blood clots. Ryan Cole showed us placentas that were way small for gestational age. In other words, a placenta that would feed a six-week-old gestation, not a six-month-old gestation. And these are really, really problematic. So yeah, I assume like me, Naomi, you take no great joy in having been right. There's some relief, I suppose, in vindication. But here's my question to you. The data are unassailable. You've been proven right again. I've been proven

right over and over again, not because I was a good guesser, because it was clear what was going. Okay. Why is it with all of this data, all of this evidence, I don't see that we're winning the battle. They're still pushing these shots. They're still recommending them for pregnant and lactating women. What is it in your mind do you think needs to happen to turn the tide? Well, I mean, it honestly depends on what day it is, whether I feel like we're winning or losing. But I do think we've had significant recent victories. Because Pfizer has lost $150 billion in value since we started reporting out these facts and other people did too. And they're back to where they were before 2020. So all that massive balloon of profit, which was based on lying to us and hurting us and killing us and funded by our taxpayer dollars, paradoxically, that's gone. And I also do hear,

you know, as much, as many beatings as we've taken, as much reputational attacks as, you know, have been directed at us, I do hear that people in the land of CNN and PR and young adults, especially who are the ones most at risk of never having babies or, you know, having their babies not, not, uh, be born or, you know, spontaneously aborted and so on. Um, word is getting out and people who used to think I was crazy, uh, are now kind of acknowledging, you know, should have listened to you. So not that that's important. What's important is just saving the human species. So those are victories because, you know, thousands, if not millions of lives have been saved by us not shutting up, you know, and using

every channel available to us. Now that said, as you may know, i don't think this is a normal time in which there's just greedy pharmaceutical companies and captured regulatory agencies uh being not careful enough for exploiting a situation and you know it's not like the jungle upton sinclair's you know story about corrupt institutions and tainted you know milk and I think, I think, and I've shared this with you and more and more evidence is coming out showing that I'm right about this, not that I wanna be, that we're under, a war is being waged against us. And my original research found that these injections

are manufactured by the Chinese Communist Party and distributed by the Chinese Communist Party. And that in 2021, the IP, the intellectual property went, was transferred 100%, according to the SEC filing to China for Pfizer BioNTech injections, COVID injections. So I, and I think this is related to what's going on at the border. And I'm the daughter of immigrants, granddaughter of immigrants. I believe in legal immigration, but there's a war, and millions of people, many of them of fighting age

are flowing in over the border. And at the same time, people are dying and being disabled in Western Europe and North America. And babies are aborting and being miscarried in Western Europe and North America. So bad people want a world in which the United States is not a superpower, in which people who live in the United States never knew what it meant to be citizens of a free republic because they come from authoritarian

regimes, and in which those of us who do remember aren't reproducing ourselves. And where, you know, Ed Dowd said, like, we're on track for that in five years. It's like inject everyone with this disabling, sterilizing injection, you know, try to do it five times, you know, flow people in who have no memory of living in a republic, of not, you know, not being desperately poor and subjected to authoritarian regimes, and wait five years, and you're going to have a completely different reality in Western Europe and North America. And it's one that in which we won't be able to fight back as free people. It'll be, you know, kind of World Economic Forum serfdom. So that's what I really think is happening. And I will say again, I don't want to say it. I want to be wrong. I want to have misstated. There aren't that many people who have looked at the Pfizer documents, you know, in detail and read every one and edited every one of 85 reports that these experts put together.

I have done so. And I've looked and looked at those sections in the Pfizer documents where they say things like two babies died in utero due to quote maternal exposure to the vaccine. And they just say it. They know that this injection is killing those two babies, killed those two babies. And they didn't stop everything and say to the FDA, we killed two babies in utero. We know it was exposure to the vaccine. No, they, they, as you say, doubled up, doubled up. To this day, people send me ads about

pregnant women have to get this injection. The other thing we haven't talked about is mRNA spike protein and lipid nanoparticles in breast milk, which I also sounded the alarm. I broke that story with the volunteers. In the Pfizer documents, four women have blue-green breast milk and babies are, like there's another chart, which would chill your soul, of babies getting sick from drinking vaccinated mom's milk in the Pfizer documents. This many babies had swelling of their flesh. This many babies had fever. This many babies had convulsions. This many babies, you know, one baby died.

You know, they brought this poor baby to the hospital. It had multi- organ system failure. And Pfizer just documents this. They know they're sickening babies. And look at, you know, breastfeeding has gone from 34% of babies and moms to 14%. And just look around you. You know, the world has changed.

Look around you. Do you ever see really heavily pregnant women anymore? You see women with tiny bumps, but do you ever see women who are like really, really pregnant at a normal size, late stage pregnancy? You don't. And this confirms what our midwives and nurses who are talking on background to me are saying that babies don't come to term. They have to deliver them early because the placenta isn't growing normally. And you don't come to term. They have to deliver them early because the placenta isn't growing normally. And you don't see babies breastfeeding anymore, really. You don't see moms and babies breastfeeding almost ever. So it's a different world in which the female body has been poisoned and butchered.

Well, I just see a really stark difference between what we're doing here in the United States and what they're doing elsewhere. The UK put a moratorium on vaccinating pregnant women or lactating women or even young women trying to get pregnant over a year ago now. They put the brakes on. In contradistinction, ACOG, the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology here in the United States, is doubling down. Never before in the history of medicine have we given a drug or a therapeutic

to a group of people on whom it was specifically not tested. This is the first time I'm aware of, I've been practicing medicine for more than 30 years. I have never known of us to give a drug or therapeutic to groups of people. And this wasn't tested on these people. On the other hand, they clearly knew what it was going to do. And I think that it is very, very troubling. Independent of all the issues with regard to fertility and menstrual

issues, even if you take those things out, Naomi, the incidence of ill effects from the vaccine seem to have a preponderance towards women. Women are more affected by all of things with the exception of myocarditis. Everything else that is happening, if you look at the cancer rates, autoimmune issues, neurologic issues, they all seem to affect women more than men. Whether or not that was purposeful, I don't know, but we have got to, you know, it is really alarming. I had a conversation yesterday with Reggie Littlejohn, who is running the Sovereignty Project and really trying to keep us out of this

dreadful pending treaty with the World Health Organization. Interestingly, of the nations that, oh, yeah, she's doing remarkable work and everybody better get on board with this or the world as we know it, our freedom is gone. Interestingly, of the countries that have raised the alarm flag about that and said, no, we don't want to participate. There are 11 of them. They're countries like Iran, Syria, Cuba, Belarus. You know who's missing from that? The United States. The United States has, yeah, yeah. We're all in. We're all into the one health. I don't mean, I like you very much, but you and I don't have the same health. I'm here to say we don't have one health. My health is not your health. And likewise, so it's really, really alarming. So I'd love to know where are you taking this next? You've got

this incredible energy, this incredible, you know you're right, you know the data, where are you taking it? Well, I just wanted to note, and I promise I'll answer your question, that though pregnant women were excluded from the Pfizer internal trials, nonetheless, 270 women in the Pfizer documents got pregnant anyway. Pfizer lost the records of 234 of them, which is illegal. Of the 36, of course they did. Of the 36 women whose records remain, over 80% of them lost their babies. And that's just one of the two places in the Pfizer documents that shows shocking levels of spontaneous abortion and miscarriage. So where am I taking this? Well, I guess, you know, in Facing the Beast, I spell, you know, I talk a lot about the death of the innocents. I mean, it's interesting. I mean, if you really want to know, I'm reading the Geneva

Bible in a separate series of videos, 1560 Founders Bible, and we're at Exodus. And it was a time in which, you know, the babies were, you know, the babies were being sacrificed by state policy. Pharaoh was like, get rid of all the children of Israel's babies. And, you know, it's incredible to think that we're in a time that literally echoes the Hebrew Bible in which state policy around the world knowingly is killing babies, you know, at massive unimaginable scale. So I guess this may not be the right place to say it, but in Facing the Beast, I go from looking at what's really happening to humanity to asking a question like why is this happening and I personally have come to the conclusion that you know humanity is

being tested you know like I don't know if we'll survive this or not but I think it's a spiritual battle I think it's a battle between good and evil I think we've spoken a little bit about that before yeah I tell people I feel like I'm living the book of revelations right now, and I know how it ends. So I truly feel like we are living in the end times. Personally, I am still hopeful about it because I know where I end up in it, and I'm okay with that. But I think that's where we are. It's tough if you're Jewish, right? Because it's like, it's not that way for us. We just, you know, we just go off into the heavens

or into the mountains of Babylon. You know, it's like, I don't know if there's a happy ending, but I do know that there's, I do believe on it, moving it back to the material, because I know this is not a kind of California kind of show where we leave the material for too long. I do believe and I see that even as existing institutions are crumbling, like people's trust in health, CDC, FDA, CNN, NPR, it's collapsing, right, as it should.

But I do see new communities arising and new institutions being built. You know, look at us. Alternative media is now bigger than legacy media because legacy media sold their souls. There's no other way to say it. So I think, you know, if we react correctly, this is 1776 and we really could rebuild America and we could save, you know, some of the babies, if not all of the babies and some of humanity, if not all of humanity and, and maybe build, you know, rebuild science, rebuild medicine. I, I do think that's possible. People have done it

before in completely corrupted societies. Um, they've, uh, on the ashes of the completely corrupted societies, they've built healthier institutions. I believe it's possible. But first people really have to know and face. That's why the title is Facing the Beast. You know, what is the beast? I mean, the beast could be this malevolent state policy around the world that's destroying women and destroying babies and destroying kind of humanity and human health. And, or it could be the ugliness that we saw in 2021, 2022, where people turned against each other. A two-tier society was built up. People embraced exclusion. Maybe the beast is that isolation that

was inflicted on us. Loneliness, you know, leaving our elders alone to die by themselves. I mean, I think you can interpret the beast any way you want, but I think we're in a time where we have to face up to the ugliness that we've committed. It's a very kind of days of awe time and commit to not being ugly anymore if we're going to save ourselves.

I will tell you, it's interesting to that point. I spoke this past weekend at a conference in Spokane, Washington, a medical freedom conference. And I was stunned at the number of people. There were physicians, nurses, physical therapists, pharmacists who have all thrown off the mantle of the standard system. They have all gone insurance free. They've gone concierge. They're saying the hell with all of it. I'm not doing this. I'm not doing your electronic medical record. I'm not sure there was a vaccinated person in the room. They've all lost their jobs. Many of them got fired and kicked out and they said, good, I don't need you. I'm done with you and I was remarked in the state of Washington of all amazing like I was in Iowa You know or Arkansas I mean I was in the state of Washington and it was kind of a challenge for me to get there

You know, the travel was a bear. I'm dealing with a bunch of my own health stuff And I thought why am I doing this and I'm so glad I did because it Sort of renewed my faith in mankind and my faith in my fellow medical healthcare professionals. I said, maybe there are more people out there who do have a clue and they're quietly just sort of saying, I'm done with this and we're creating a whole new system. And so maybe we're about to tackle the beast and hopefully come out on top. I love that. There was a pair,

I think this may be happening across the country, maybe even throughout the world. There was a conference called Back to Basics in Wellesley, Mass that I attended a few weeks ago. And it was the same thing. I've never seen anything like it. Doctors and nurses and like psychiatrists even. And they've been And nurses have created

nursing networks where you go right to the nurse and you bypass the whole sick medical system. It was fascinating because they also explained step by step how medicine got corrupted and electronic medical records featured largely in that corruption of the system. But if this is really happening throughout the country, and if we can still have capitalism and not be taken over by, you know, globalist kind of oligarchical communists, the market will speak, you know, and people will, I mean, people are flocking to the wellness company, people are flocking to telemedicine with people that they trust.

I'm trying to do everything I can to never see a conventional doctor in a hospital setting again. And I think there are a lot of us. So that's a very hopeful sign. It's a beautiful sign. No, that's actually a great. The wellness company. Talk about a great example of a group of people, all of whom were targeted, really faced the slings and arrows during this. Their response was to gather together, not to reject their patients, not to abandon mankind,

but to instead band together, create some unbelievable solutions. They're the ones creating, I think right now, the best targeted therapies to fight off the spike protein and to treat whatever element this is of long COVID and to really address people's issues. They are a great example of that. So I hope, Naomi, that more of this is going on in little pockets and we just aren't aware of it all the time because we're constantly facing the ugly, but there's really little pockets that are about to bubble up and sort of band together. I think so. I hope so. At TWC, again, to pile on that, I think they have goals well beyond what they've been doing so far and really coming

together and creating a new kind of medicine. Ultimately, I think it's a great idea idea i'm seeing little pockets of similar kinds of things out there and i think it's something whose time has come and uh yeah i i'm going to be moderating a panel uh in a couple weeks with uh rfk jr and asim malhatra so be interesting to see and they several other medical freedom types so it's just an extraordinary time um and i it is scary though it does feel like book of revelations at end times but i like both of you i remain very i remain very positive i i have an optimistic bias i've noticed and uh it actually affected me during covet where i was like a minute, how bad actually is this? And my bias helped me to see the truth. But it gets very confusing. It's very difficult to sort everything out.

And we have to be, you know, humility, care, caution, all these things are worthy words to keep in mind all the time. I never thought words like freedom and bravery, as I've told you before, would be also top of mind, but they are and again today Naomi has further refined my own humility I I knew I was dismissive of you but I didn't realize I was dismissive of this thing menstrual health let's call it I guess we don't have a word we don't have language proper proper language for it yet but there was always very like and as you, when it comes to male health and certainly penile

health, yeah, the world might stop turning if all men suddenly had a problem right there. And we are very dismissive of women's menstrual issues. And if you think about it, I'm just vamping every second, but you think about it, the incredible power of that moment when a woman is 11, 12, 13 years old and this begins, men have no idea any about that, anything. And then to have that cycling and that part of their regular sense of their own being and health, men have no idea about that. And when it goes off, we're like, oh, so what? So what? Maybe you have a skin rash. Oh, your period's a little irregular.

What's the big deal? We have no appreciation. And I didn't really, really think about it with the way I should have. Here I am, 60 some odd years of age, just waking up to how, it's really pathetic, you know, and a physician, and just really waking up to how, I don't want to use too strong word, but it's insensitive, you know, and, and, and a physician and just really waking up to how,

I don't want to use too strong word, but it's insensitive is really what it is insensitive. And as usual, women take everything on themselves. It's all, you know, they take it on for themselves on behalf of themselves on behalf of women. And it's really, it's time that we paid attention. So part of, part of us coming out of the death of the innocents includes being more realistic about women and women's health, I would say. I appreciate that. But again, Dr. Drew, you are forgiven because on this journey, intention is everything. And the other thing is women, these are shameful, secret things. I mean, I see on Twitter,

all these, you know, bought off doctors saying, well, I don't see any evidence of this. Well, women are not going to go on Twitter and say, I am passing clots out of my vagina. You know, they're just not going to, it's shameful. It's miserable. It's embarrassing. Um, and I guess what I would say to your lovely paration there is women don't talk about this a lot, but it's hard to menstruate. You know, like even when everything is working perfectly and you're a healthy woman, it is hard to menstruate. It's hard to carry a baby. It's hard to give birth. It's hard to breastfeed.

You know, none of it is easy, even when everything is perfect. And women have been told to be silent about all of it. So maybe this discussion is very positive. I hope it leads women to be more open and less ashamed. But don't beat yourself up too much, Dr. Drew, because you're facing 5,000 years of women being silenced about the processes of their bodies, especially their reproductive bodies.

So let's leave it there. No doubt we'll be back with more. There's a lot, you know, it's always more to talk about here as we try to slog through. Get the book, Facing the Beast. It's out now, Naomi? You can pre-order it now,

which is very important, I know publishers say, but pre-order it on Amazon. It'll be out November 9th. All right, we will do so. And Kelly, as always, thank you so much. And thank you for yesterday. We were watching from afar and we're intrigued by that whole conversation. It was a great conversation. Yeah. There's just more to be worried about all the time. And I'm looking forward to coalescing around the truth one day

soon. I still worry about a lot of things. I worry about stuff, and I want us all to get this right. Yeah, if we go to the root of this social credit score, my social credit score is going to be pretty bleak. So I'm screwed. So let me tell you right now. My social credit score isn't likely to be very high. So, you know, I'm definitely fighting against it.

But anyway, thank you for being back. You're always a joy to have. I really appreciate it. I appreciate you guys. And also, Nemi, we'll let you go. And also to Dr. Getsky, we appreciate his participation. Kelly, I have one question for you that I was going to ask him before. He had a technical problem, if you remember.

He said his computer battery was going dead, and lo and behold, it did. But the issue he's making, and he made on the John Campbell, he was interviewed by John Campbell, I think, recently. And he made a big deal out of the bait and switch, which is what he talked to us about last time. Right. And I started thinking, I don't really know what the issue is. I mean, so what if somebody, and I'm saying this somewhat facetiously, so I want you to straight me out.

So what if somebody makes a shirt and puts an alligator on it and calls it Lacoste as opposed to somebody puts a horse on it and calls it polo, maybe it's the same shirt. What do I care if different brands put their brand label on the same thing? How is Comirnaty different than the Pfizer-studied vaccine? Okay, so you're conflating two different things. The bait and switch didn't have to do with that piece of it the bait and switch had to do with the very limited studies that were done were done using not using this dna process where they did the e coli and they grew it they

okay it was done so so the very limited size. Exactly. And then what they actually launched to the public was this thing that was grown with DNA on the E. coli DNA and has the plasmids in it. Totally different thing. Totally. It would be like, you know, you, you got, you got something past, you know, here's the, you know, the macaroni and cheese that you got passed through the you know uh the food right and then you totally replace all the different components with

something else and say i mean they they're totally different products still looks the same still looks the same looks like macaroni and cheese okay got it and is that the one that's labeled community no okay Was there another switch? Okay. No. So you get this thing that goes out under the EUA, but it's now made with the DNA. Okay. So it's not what they tested.

So all the testing they did before doesn't even apply because we don't even know. No testing was done on this new stuff. So that gets the emergency use authorization. Subsequently, sometime down the road, the FDA now approves Comirnaty, which they say is identical to the emergency use authorization product, but it's identical to but distinct. Okay. And the reason this was slight a hand, they did this because they knew very well that they would capture more people who are vaccine hesitant, because many people were saying, Well, I'm not getting this thing

until it's FDA approved. So the FDA said, Okay, we're now approving it stamp approved is now called comirnaty. I see. But the comirnaty wasn't... In order to allow, number one, Pfizer to use up this huge stockpile they had of the emergency use authorization, the stuff that wasn't labeled Comirnaty, in order to allow them to use all that up whilst remaining totally, totally protected from any liability, because if you get injected with any of those, if they don't say Comirnaty on it, they are by definition emergency use authorization product, and therefore the company has no liability. So they allowed them to use up this huge amount of, they're still using it up. There's still no Comirnaty in the United States.

If you go in today and say, I never got vaccinated for COVID. But now I'm you know, I wrote, you know, feeling badly about, you know, myself, and I'm now going to go get it and you go in to get a Pfizer shot, you are going to get the emergency use authorization stuff, the bio and tech, that's not community. And therefore, if you drop dead or have a problem, you can't sue them. So that was again, it was sleight of hand. But that stuff that ultimately made it to the market was the second product it was the uh the bait and switch it was not so hold on

i get it but now now if i'm looking at it from the uk say i'm in i'm in the national health service there are they distributing community and is is that the DNA product that is still not the PCR product from Pfizer? Correct. It is the DNA product, but you can get Comirnaty in the UK, but they did it here in the United States to make people think that what they were getting was an FDA approved product. And it's not. If you ask to see the vial, I promise you it will not say Comirnaty on it. So it was, but yes, it's the second process. It's that second process, which is where the DNA plasmid contamination came in. Yeah.

Well, that story is going to get told. I didn't dig into it with Naomi, but I think she was talking about going to visit that professor in South Carolina, isn't she? The one that had been raising the issues around this? Is that? Yeah. So this is a story that is coming down the road here and should be on our radar very soon. So stay with us and we will report on that as we get it. And we will no doubt be interviewing the major players because nobody else does except we should get them and hear what they have to say.

Exactly. All right. All right. So we're good. You've got, let's put up, if Caleb can put up the upcoming guests. I ran them yesterday and went over them, but yeah, their schedule. All right. About Acharya tomorrow.

I'll be interested to hear what he has to say about these very same issues. Rob Schneider on Tuesday, my old friend, we are going to talk about how he and I were attacked by the New York Times and how that article looks now in retrospect. Next Wednesday, when Kelly joins us again, Peter McCullough comes in and we will talk about these issues we were discussing today. There was something you said today. I thought, God, I got to ask him about that. It's specifically the thing I really like., the myocarditis is really about differentiating. The thing with Peter is really about the ability to put to bed once and for all that these cardiac issues are actually, no, it's a side effect of COVID. Yeah. Dr. McCullough has made it very clear that we can

differentiate and that these are vaccine-related cardiac issues, not cardiac issues that are secondary to someone having had COVID. Okay. We'll walk through that. And we'll see you then, Kelly, next Wednesday. And we'll see everybody else tomorrow at 3 o'clock, our usual time, with Jay Bhattacharya. Thanks, my dear. See you soon. Bye.

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