Ask Dr. Drew - Bombshell Study Shows Teachers Give Boys Lower Grades (But Only When They Know It’s A Boy) w/ Raw Egg Nationalist + John Solomon (Just The News) & Libby Emmons (The Post Millennial) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 569

Episode Date: December 21, 2025

A major education study found teachers give boys lower grades – but only when they know the student is a boy. Researchers from Switzerland compared anonymous national exams with teacher-graded tests... and found the bias only appeared when the teacher knew the student was male. When school tests were graded blindly, boys performed as well as or better than girls. The findings suggest that a teacher’s sexism against males, not student ability, is a larger factor in lower reported scores for boys and contributes to long term academic gaps that follow young males for the rest of their lives. Raw Egg Nationalist (AKA Charles Cornish-Dale) joins to speak about masculinity and saving boys from biased teachers. Just The News founder John Solomon & The Post Millennial EIC Libby Emmons discuss Hillary Clinton’s malfeasance, the neo-feminist movement, and restoring womanhood in a modern world that seems hellbent on eradicating femininity. John Solomon is an award-winning investigative journalist and the founder of Just the News. He has previously worked at the Associated Press, The Washington Post, The Washington Times, and The Hill. Follow at https://x.com/jsolomonReports⠀Charles Cornish-Dale, also known as Raw Egg Nationalist, is the author of The Last Men: Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity and founder of Man’s World Magazine. He is a best-selling author and co-founder of Kindred Harvest. Follow at https://x.com/Babygravy9⠀Libby Emmons is the editor-in-chief of The Post Millennial and Human Events. She covers culture, politics, and media with a focus on free expression and civil society. Follow at https://x.com/libbyemmons 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • AUGUSTA PRECIOUS METALS – Thousands of Americans are moving portions of their retirement into physical gold & silver. Learn more in this 3-minute report from our friends at Augusta Precious Metals: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/gold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or text DREW to 35052 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://drdrew.com/vshredmd • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) and Susan Pinsky (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/firstladyoflov⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠e⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer & Booking • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Lot to get into today. John Solomon joins us first. He's an award-winning investigative journalist, founder of Just The News. You can find him at just-the-news.com at Just The News. And then we will be joined by Raw Egg Nationalist. Of course, you know him. He's been here before. Founder of Man's World magazine, co-founder of Kindred Harvest.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Charles Cornishdale has, can be found at mansworld.online, also kindredharvest. at C.O. And at Baby Gravy 9 on X. And finally, Libby Emmons comes in. She's the editor-in-chief of the post-millennial. And human events, we're going to talk a little bit about toxic feminism amongst other things. We've got a lot to talk about today. Let's get right to it after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this fact. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for a say,
Starting point is 00:01:01 where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Lovelin all the time, educate adolescents, and to prevent, and to treat.
Starting point is 00:01:14 You have trouble, you can't stop, and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. At J. Solomon reports and also at Just the News, John Solomon. Thank you for joining us. I'm not sure we have his sound, Caleb.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Is there a sound problem here, John? I think we... Oh, there you are. You're back. Yeah, good, yep. There you're good. You're all good. It's sort of cut out for a second there, but no problem.
Starting point is 00:01:50 So amongst other things, I think, worth talking about, just some things I heard. and I want you to sort of tell me whether I'm, if there's anything there, is there smoke or is there fire? That it was actually Epstein that established the Clinton Foundation. Accurate? Not 100% accurate. He clearly had some strong relationships with President Trump around the time. The foundation was a forum.
Starting point is 00:02:17 But I've never found a document or anything that shows him in the formation of it. I think he was a donor listed as a founding donor. But I don't think we know anything more than that right now. Now, there are some new documents that are going to come out tomorrow. We might get some new leads on that. And I think a lot of people have always opined that he might have been behind the scenes or he asked his lawyers to help. Bill Clinton get the paperwork done for the foundation.
Starting point is 00:02:40 But as of today, I've never found a document that links them to anything more than having donated. And it seems like the Hillary story just goes one direction. The more they dig into the story, the more of the sort of the intelligence. operations look into it. It looks shadier and shadier. Yeah, and it did to the FBI. I think that's the big bombshell that this week, the documents we got on Monday, what do they show? They show that beginning in 2010 and consistently through 2018, the FBI believed they had enough evidence to make a criminal case that Hillary Clampton was running a pay-to-play corruption scheme, where she would solicit
Starting point is 00:03:20 foreign donations to her foundation from people who had business pending before the state Department, and then oftentimes those people got exactly what they wanted at the State Department. And we're talking about lots of different things. In one case, it's Boeing. Another time, it's Abu Dhabi. Another time, it's a group of Indian donors, from India and entrepreneurs. The only thing that's in common is the pattern. Money comes in. Request comes in. Request is answered, usually favorably to the donor. And if people say, well, you know, sometimes it's hard to make a bribery case, the FBI did not think this was hard. The only thing they found hard was getting their bosses in the Obama Justice Department to sign off.
Starting point is 00:04:01 And every time they brought new and compelling evidence, they got the same answer. Shut it down. And it's, you know, I'm somewhat crestfallen by all this in the sense that I think there's been a sort of acceptance of those sorts of corruptions as sort of business as usual. It doesn't feel different than Hunter Biden. it doesn't feel different than what goes on in California? What has happened to us? Well, that is a great question. The further we get from the Watergate scandal,
Starting point is 00:04:34 I think the further we forget how America used to find shame in this behavior. Today, we seem to accept it. Maybe Hollywood glamorized it. Maybe it's become all too common. But it shouldn't be. Government should never be for sale. There shouldn't be for sale sign out in front of the State Department or the White House or the Congress.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And yet too many times we see it time and again that that's, what's really going on, that the donation and the promise and then the delivery of the promise come in such a sequence that Americans have every right to doubt really the integrity of their government now. I remember I was the president of a local medical society years ago. It must have been 30 years ago. And we had some issues with some state regulation. And I said, well, let's go up there and, you know, let's go meet with somebody in mind,
Starting point is 00:05:23 a state senator or something. the elder statesman of the committee, people who had been present before, went, were you ready to pay them for that visit? I go, what do you mean pay them for the visit? He goes, you have to make a donation in order to get that visit. I'm like, what? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:39 That was 30 years ago. It is far more ingrained. By the way, the Clintons are sort of at, we forget this now because so much time has passed. But after Watergate, the next greatest campaign finance scandal in American history was the 1990s, China Monday scandal. Remember, they were selling the Lincoln bedroom for 100. thousand dollars a night and they had all these buddhist monks and chinese
Starting point is 00:05:58 cutouts who were dumping money into an american election foreign interference in our election and they somehow the clinton's escape that they don't get impeached over it a lot of people got indicted but not the clintons and a couple years later they set up a foundation and the pay to play just continues and i think that's what's so frustrating to these fb agents i want to point you to something that could be really significant in the next couple of months yes the u.s. tax court not a place that we normally watch it's kind of a boring courthouse, not the federal courthouse of Washington, but the tax issue courthouse. A judge there has given the OK to put the Clinton Foundation on trial that people
Starting point is 00:06:37 who are going to bring it are two former money laundering experts for the DEA. They are people that used to trace the money for terrorists and DEI drug cartels, the two of the best in the country. And they have been making the arguments kind of quietly for five years, six years in the tax court that the Clintons were running a criminal enterprise. ascorating as a charity, and they're getting closer to being able to present their case. Now, their case will be, were they, did they tell the government of truth, and should they get a reward for it? But if they were to win the reward, the inference and the finding in that court case would be
Starting point is 00:07:10 they did, in fact, find a criminal enterprise inside the Clinton Foundation. I keep an eye in that one. That could be the most interesting public flogging that the Clintons finally get for this sort of long era of behavior that they've engaged in. and isn't this all really just a function of these effing NGO structures we have and is there anything to be done about that because it seems like we have was it what i heard this morning 14 trillion dollars of NGO money and this is that's more than EU and many other countries put together more than their entire national budget and i i don't understand why we allowed this to go on. It seems, it seems insane. You are, you have the target right in your sites. We created this tax-free environment where politics is done at the taxpayer's expense. Corruption occurs right beneath our noses. Sometimes it's taxpayer money. A lot of these NGOs get
Starting point is 00:08:10 a lot of their money from the United States government, the people who were shuttling illegal aliens across our border. Seems like most of the time. Seems like most of the time. You're right. You're right. I correct. Most of the time. You're right. Yeah, most of the time. There is a moment. But isn't there somebody in Congress wanting to, like, put a stop to this or put a... I don't know. You know, put a cork in the bottle some way?
Starting point is 00:08:33 Yeah, the Congress... They're in on it? They can't stop. They are. I mean, how many of them have their own nonprofits and their own 501C4 is their super PACs, right? I'll tell you the guy that I'd keep an eye on because he is seriously doing something right now. He was the man who blew the whistle on the Hunter Biden corruption scheme from the IRS. So I wrote the original stories that Miranda...
Starting point is 00:08:51 The Vine got the laptop. And then we learned about this guy, Gary Shapley, he was a decorated FBI IRS agent. And he was the one who changed the course of the case. It's why Hunter Biden was convicted of felonies. He is now the acting director of the IRS. And he is examining every single nonprofit to see if they're doing politics or financial business when they should just be doing nonprofit stuff. I think you're going to see the greatest crackdown in 50 years. on nonprofit and tax exempts.
Starting point is 00:09:23 By the way, on both sides of the political eye, which is the way it should be. I think Gary Shapley could be, he's already been an impactful character. I think he could be really impactful in 26 and 27. Keep an eye on him. You just made my day. You made my 2026, actually.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I'm looking forward to the new year now. I'm feeling this something to look forward to because this issue just feels so sinister. It has the potential, it has so much power and so much money. and so much influence that it can just undo, we've watched it as they tried to undo duly elected administration. There was a letter that went from the Justice Department a couple of weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:10:03 I think it was Patrick Davis, the assistant attorney general for congressional affairs. And said it to Congress and said, hey, you had some Democrats up in the hill the other day, and they were saying they're against dark money. Here's how they benefited from dark money. And it looks like money laundering. Nonprofit gives money to Guy. Guy gives donation here, donation boost another one, another one.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And then it comes back to the senators. It does look a lot like the cartel money laundering of the past. And I think that that letter opened a lot of eyes that obviously angered the Democrats. But both sides are engaging in it. And I think Gary Schaup is the guy that's going to kick up some serious dust. And listen, the more they crack down on this, here's another thing. All of a sudden, those groups are going to be paying taxes. And that's a way to shrink our budget or shrink our deficit a little bit and our debt.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And so this could have a double or triple shrink corruption and the deficit. That would be a good thing for us. I love that. That's a good plan. You know, it just occurs to me, what did I hear, Kamala Harris saying, that Democrats need to be more authentic. You know, they don't know how to be authentic yet. No kidding, Kamala. But it just occurs to me that someone like AOC could take that issue
Starting point is 00:11:05 and restore a sort of validity to the Democratic Party, right? Because she kind of flirts with it a little bit. She flirts with, oh, everybody does this, they shouldn't do it. You know, and she could really take it as an issue. Yeah, let's remember, though, it was AOC who got in trouble with the Ethics Committee because she let someone else buy her dress for her. So even things as simple as a $10,000 or $20,000 dress for the Met Gallo can corrupt a member of Congress. The culture in Washington, and by the way, AOC can talk a good game, but she's part of the culture, just like every other member of Congress is. The culture in Washington is just like the one you experienced when you were going to see those lawmakers.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Who's going to pay me today? What do I get? My time is worth money. you're going to put, and that money almost always goes into either their 501C3, their 501C4, or their campaign coffers. Until we get out of that cash register in politics, the American distrust of any person, whether it is AOC or Marjorie Taylor Green or anyone in between, is going to remain high. And I think that that's, we've made politics an enrichment business, and it was never meant to be that.
Starting point is 00:12:11 We must end the cash register. I completely agree with that. So I promise you get you out by a quarter after. Coming up on Just the News. Well, this interview occurred last night. I think it's the biggest shot fired in the accountability word in a long time. Harmie Dillon, Assistant Attorney General for the Justice Department for Civil Rights, said on our show last night and everybody's talking about it today.
Starting point is 00:12:32 She has begun a criminal conspiracy case against federal employees and state employees. So federal agents, federal prosecutors, state prosecutors who preserved Donald Trump on the theory that they knowingly and willfully infringed his civil liberties. This is going back and taking the tactic that the Justice Department under Kennedy used, Robert F. Kennedy, to go after the Ku Klux Klan and turning it around on the Democratic machinery saying, hey, when you raided President Trump's home
Starting point is 00:13:00 and the FBI told you didn't have probable cause, you infringed the civil liberties. When you continued to submit fake FISA warrants into the FISA court, you can make it look like Donald Trump had a Russia collusion problem. You infringed on his liberty. When you spied on Carter Page, you infringed on that. Man's Liberty. She's looking at it, and she said this on the record as a criminal conspiracy case.
Starting point is 00:13:21 She's going to treat the Democratic establishment, the deep state, as a criminal conspiracy, much like the drug cartels and the mob. It was a jaw dropper for us when she said it. It's probably the most important statement we've gotten from the Trump Justice Department since they took back over in January. I know her meet well. She is relentless. She is relentless. list. Once she gets on something, she does not speak lightly. She's, believe me, you'll hear more about it. John, appreciate it very much. Jay Solomon reports. We'll look for you on X and also just the news. Thank you so much for me here. Thank you, sir. Good to have you. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:14:00 You got it. Okay. John could really say a brief period of time, but that's okay because I wanted to take a few minutes to talk a little bit about the Rob Reiner tragedy. Susan, do you want to kind of introduce this a little bit because it was your idea to do this. I can launch right into it if you want. No, just launch in. All right. So Susan was saying, you know, a lot of what I've been talking about in the press is about how people should deal with family members with this condition.
Starting point is 00:14:28 And that although there's, you know, almost no opportunity to learn from tragedies like this because I'm telling you this was just out of control, meth psychosis, something of that sort. he's not even going to remember what happened I pretty much guarantee it was not premeditated I do think the reason they went for death penalty is so they can negotiate because they've got him
Starting point is 00:14:50 dead on I'm hearing rumors that the mom was still alive by the time the daughter arrived and pointed to him and said Nick did this so if that's true then death penalty was a way to negotiate much to that Idaho killer negotiated
Starting point is 00:15:07 down to life in prison So, in any event, the take home from all this is that over and again, when I work with family members, they ask me, you know, what can I do? I'll do anything for my family members. I'll do anything for my son. You tell me what to do. I'll do it. I'll do anything. You'll do anything I tell you to do.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Anything. Just tell me, I will do it. I go, all right. This disease of addiction is identical to the plant and the little shop of horrors. If you know that plant. The Audrey 2, if you go in the room with the Audrey 2, you go into the plant. And the only way the plant doesn't eat you is if you're pulled back by somebody with a corridor, physically pulling you out. An addiction is just like that.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Even I don't go into the room to treat an addict without somebody with me. I had a nurse that would kick my chair if I started going into the plant, so to speak. So when you love someone with addiction, the relationship becomes part of the condition. they bring you in the disorder brings you in and starts using all of your most your most wonderful instincts the best instincts you have get used by this condition excuse me while I try to put my mic back here again and so when Rob Reiner said you know I should trust my own instincts I thought oh boy that that is how people get in trouble because his instincts not that his instincts are good, they're probably wonderful. But his son's condition will use those instincts
Starting point is 00:16:39 to perpetuate the addiction, perpetuate the disease. The classic example of this is the mom becomes totally convinced by the addict that the addict will die if she doesn't continue to intervene on his path. And the reality is this is a fatal illness. It does progress to death. And so there are safety issues. You have to navigate that, that you have to walk that line where you're not completely abandoning somebody that has a serious and dangerous illness, but by the same token, you can't let him or her manipulate you because of your fear that if you don't do certain things, give them money, give them, whatever it is they want, they will die. And so it's, it gets dicey, which is why when family members ask me, what can I do, I tell them, well,
Starting point is 00:17:25 here's what you can do. And if you do it, you'll be part of the solution. And if you don't do it, you will be contributing to the demise of this person you love and you'll say you said you'll do anything for so here's what you do you go to an alina program you go to a codependency program you get a sponsor you go to meetings regularly you work 12 steps yourself or you get a therapist but actually alenar works better because you have to have somebody constantly available on phone that would be your sponsor to check in with before you interact with the addict and after you interact with the addict because every instinct you have good instinct will go wrong how this works and you have to have someone who knows this very well and knows how to end the dance you have to
Starting point is 00:18:11 come off the dance floor not not reject the patient not leave out of anger and you know frustration just calmly and with love leave the dance floor and start having someone in your court so you don't go into the plant. Okay, coming up, raw egg nationalist. We're going to talk a little bit about masculinity and his new book right after this. Next year,
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Starting point is 00:21:33 aka Raw Egg Nationalist, founder of Men's World Magazine, co-founder, Kindred Harvest. Let's put the new book up there, Caleb, if you would. You can find him on X at Baby Gravy Nine. There's the book, The Last Men. We're talking about that. Also, you can find them, obviously,
Starting point is 00:21:48 at rawegnationalist.com. Mansworldmagiz. Online, kindredharvest. Charlie, thank you for joining us. It's an absolute pleasure to be back with you, Drew. Thank you. So let's talk about the book. What are we going to learn? What prompted you to write it? And what's the nature of the crisis here for men, as if it's not obvious to most people? Yeah, well, so your viewers may remember, if they're familiar with me, that I was in a documentary in 2022 called The End of Men, Fox, Tucker Carlson's original documentary.
Starting point is 00:22:23 2022, about the crisis of masculinity, about what's happening to men, and in particular, young men in America, but also actually more broadly throughout the Western developed world. And, you know, one of the main features, I think, of this crisis is actually underappreciated and that the documentary focused on was testosterone levels in particular. So there's a civilizational decline in testosterone levels taking place. Testosterone, the master male hormone, which is responsible for muscle mass. It governs motivation, mood, libido, everything. You know, I mean, it would be wrong to say that testosterone is the only thing that makes a man a man. You know, the most masculine man in the world isn't the man with the most testosterone. But testosterone is a governing factor of masculinity,
Starting point is 00:23:18 masculine behavior, and masculine biological development, you know, sexual maturation, beginning actually, you know, from conception in the womb through childhood, teenage, and into adulthood. So there's this crisis of masculinity, you know, you only have to look around you to see that actually, you know, men really aren't doing very well. And there's a broad literature on, there's a broad literature, you know, on this crisis. You've got people like Jordan Peterson, Senator Josh Hawley writing about it. But none of them talk about the biological roots of the crisis. None of them talk about the civilizational decline in testosterone levels, what's causing it, why it's happening, and what the effects are not only
Starting point is 00:24:00 physically, biologically, but also socially and even politically. So that's the real focus of this book. This book is really the first ever attempt to deal with the crisis of masculinity as a biological phenomenon driven by testosterone decline. And testosterone is actually a more sensitive hormone in terms of its circulating blood levels for each testosterone and production of testosterone, then people imagine. It gets affected by a lot of things. So let's kind of run through some of the likely culprits here. There's a book called Estrogen Nation out there about plastics and the effects of many environmental. Maybe you want to list some of the environmental, your favorite environmental.
Starting point is 00:24:46 attacks on testosterone? Yes, so yeah, so harmful chemicals and in particular plastic chemicals, they're often referred to as endocrine disruptors. So the endocrine system is the body's hormone system. And these chemicals mimic natural hormones, mainly estrogen within the human body. So it's like actually getting a dose of hormones, you know. So let's say, for instance, you drink bottled water, you drink water from a plastic bottle. Well, that water will be contaminated with plasticising chemicals.
Starting point is 00:25:19 It will be contaminated with phallates, maybe with BPA. You'll get microplastics as well, which are tiny, tiny slivers of plastic that are worn off the surface of the plastic, and you ingest those as well. And these substances, like I say, they mimic estrogen in the human body. So what they do is they upset the delicate balance between testosterone and estrogen. So, you know, testosterone and estrogen are essential for both men and women, but just in different ratios. And if you throw off those ratios, then you can have all sorts of terrible effects. And, of course, there are certainly nutritional aspects and alcohol and cigarettes and cannabis really lowers testosterone, like crazy, in fact. And then there are behavioral or interpersonal or environmental effects.
Starting point is 00:26:13 factors. I don't know if people are aware that when a man gets a new job or goes into a leadership position, testosterone goes up. And much to the, on the opposite side of the spectrum, when he's put down and diminished and marginalized and told that he's not worthwhile, it goes the other way. And it certainly feels like we have been in a phase where men generally have been told that they're worthless. Yes, yeah. Oh, absolutely. So, I mean, the book doesn't just focus on environmental factors. It doesn't just focus on lifestyle factors, the fact that we're getting fatter, the fact that we're more stressed than, you know, we ever were. I mean, modern humans are subject to chronic stress in a way that our hunter-gatherer ancestors never were. You know, they were subject to acute stress in particular situations, hunting animals, being hunted, fighting. But we are subject to stress all the time. But yes, there's this kind of behavioral aspect as well where, you know, if you're if you're not given aspects to be, if you're not given opportunities rather, to behave
Starting point is 00:27:22 like a man and to do things that are satisfying as a man to win, to compete, you know, to find a mate, to find a romantic partner. All of these different things also have effects on testosterone levels as well. And so actually you end up in, in, in, what's basically like a downward spiral. We've got all of these environmental factors that are affecting men and making it much more difficult for men to be men, lowering their testosterone levels. But then you've also created a society that actually doesn't give men any sort of real outlets for masculine behavior and for their masculine impulses. And so it's a spiral. It all feeds into, all these factors feed into one another. And they're really, you know, that's the reason why this
Starting point is 00:28:10 crisis actually is so serious and is taking on this basically civilizational character. Well, there's also a, you know, a population collapse on the heels of this if we're not careful. We have to really have a problem here. But it seems like in recent couple of years, anyway, that there are men who continue to slide down this slope that we're talking about here. and I don't see them getting much better. But I also see others who are kind of stepping up. Adam Crollo calls it safe spaces and octagons. I called him the other day because Trump said he's literally going to have an octagon
Starting point is 00:28:52 at the White House. I'm like, they're actually putting an octagon there. But there are men who are showing interest into more masculine outlets. The problem is, and you tell me if this is true or not, that one of the things that people don't appreciate about men, when you push them down or you tell them that, worthless or you abuse them in some way they go quiet they go underground they go into the cave and when they come out they're not happy so it can create a rebound and thus now we have the
Starting point is 00:29:24 nick fuentes thing and you have all these other things that are maybe going too far in the other direction oh yes yeah i mean i think i think that um it would be a mistake to think that when a man as you say, goes quiet that he's beaten necessarily. And yes, you do see a kind of return of the repressed, if you will, to use a phrase from Freud, right? You know, you men have these natural instincts. They exist. You actually can't get rid of them. You can push them down. You can try and keep a lid on them, but actually the pressure will build and then eventually you'll get something explosive. And that's actually, you know, that's actually Sigmund Freud's argument in civilization and it's discontents, you know.
Starting point is 00:30:06 You repress people's natural instincts for too long, too hard, and you get an explosion, you get a social revolution. And that may very well be what happens, you know. You know, you can't deny it. He was sort of funny in that book. They build steeples. They build really high points in their towns, which I thought was so interesting. but so what do you do you have prescriptive ideas about what we do for this yeah of course i mean the book is
Starting point is 00:30:41 the book is a description is a diagnosis of a very grave problem and i think it will worry people when they read it you know that like the the scale of the problem it's it's really that grave but no there are also um prescriptions as well there's also very simple advice uh i mean building on the kind of advice that I dispense on Twitter all the time and on my, on my substack page and in my writing in general, things that men can do that are simple. I mean, to take one example, sleep is a huge determinant of hormonal health. The majority of a man's testosterone is produced at night while he sleeps. So if a man doesn't sleep properly, he's not going to have optimal hormone levels. And that's been substantiated in, you know, so much clinical literature. And there have been
Starting point is 00:31:29 studies that show, for example, that if a man improves his sleep from four hours to eight hours a night, he can actually double his testosterone. So if you could actually get a hold of your sleep, and most people don't sleep very well these days. There is a, it seems to be the case that people sleep worse and worse as time passes. And, you know, there are all sorts of culprits, things like mobile phones, for example, ambient blue light, et cetera, that is disturbing the circadian rhythms, making it harder for us. to sleep. So if you take your sleep seriously, you can actually, you know, have a seriously transformative effect on your hormonal health. There are all sorts of other things as well,
Starting point is 00:32:08 working out, cleaning up your diet, minimizing your exposure to these harmful chemicals. We were talking about earlier, endocrine disrupting chemicals, stop using plastic as much as you can. Don't microwave food in plastic containers. Don't drink water from plastic bottles, etc. Are you hopeful? I think, I mean, yeah, I think it's, I think it's a very bad thing when you, when you give up hope, right? I mean, and you're beaten, basically, when you give up hope. And I don't, I don't want to give up hope, but I do think it's a seriously big problem. I mean, I'm infused by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., by what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I'm infused by the Maha movement, although it's already encountered some quite serious roadblocks and setbacks, and it's not, but then, but then, you know, why would it have been simple. I mean, Kennedy is going up against the largest vested interests in the US. Big ag, big ag, big farmer, big food, even the military industrial complex. I mean, it's all tied together. He's confronting these interests. It's not going to be easy. It's taken 70 years for Americans to get at least 70 years, maybe a century for Americans to become as unhealthy as they are today, you know, it's not going to take a year, two years, four years, eight years, even to make America healthy again. This is a generational agenda. So, I mean, that's a good sign, I think, that, you know, you've actually got a growing recognition that actually, you know, ill health is
Starting point is 00:33:43 a civilizational problem, but we also need to take masculine health in particular seriously, too. also one of the stories we reported on in our promotion was that there is a bias against men I mean they've really sold this idea that that there's a pathology in being male we used to think about that as it pertain to ADD ADHD the kids are active and they get pathologized but teachers actually apparently grade boys if they know the paper they're grading as a boys they will grade it lower, apparently. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:34:24 So this was a study that was circulating on Twitter. I commented on it. I think it's a fairly recent study. But, you know, people were saying about the study, actually, if you're a young boy or a teenage boy, you know that this is happening. You know that it's like that. You know that your teachers actually don't really like you very much,
Starting point is 00:34:42 that they perhaps look down on you for being a boy. And, you know, this is actually just a study of exams, but actually of test results, but actually you've got to realize that the people grading these papers are also the people teaching the children. This is the classroom. This is, you know, 100% of classroom life is like this,
Starting point is 00:35:01 where actually if you are a boy, you're kind of, you're squashed. And obviously unfairly, obviously unfairly. And it has serious effects, you know. One of the things that tribal cultures do to sort of protect masculinity is have rituals around transitioning into puberty and adulthood and they always revolve around what it is to be a man, right? How do you, how do you be a man in this society? Because it's usually
Starting point is 00:35:32 hard, which is not something that men get credit for. Do we need something like that? And do you have any, if we did come up with something, what that would look like? Yeah, well, it's, it's a striking feature of traditional societies that they all have these rights of passage. You know, you get to a certain age as a boy, and then you're taken off into the wild. You have to fend for yourself with other boys of your own age, and then you come back to the group, you're reintegrated, and then you're an adult man. It's meant to be a test of fortitude. It bonds the young men together through suffering, through hardship, and, you know, it prepares them then for the next stage of life. We don't actually have real rights of passage in our society anymore. I mean,
Starting point is 00:36:19 it's very noticeable. I mean, we have a few, you know, like maybe, you know, you go to school, you graduate from school, maybe you go to college, you graduate from college, you get married, maybe, if you're lucky now. But we don't actually have, we don't actually have a really kind of fleshed out sense of the kind of ritual nature of preparation and that we actually need to do more than we're doing in order to prepare young men to be men. We need to give them examples. And we also need to set them tests. And I don't just mean, you know, sit down writing tests, you know, writing essays, multiple choice, answering questions. I mean, like, physical tests, tests of hardship. Tests. Yeah. Tests of courage and character. That's, I think,
Starting point is 00:37:05 one of the things that's missing. And so, I mean, we have some of them in sort of sports, you know, if you compete in sports and you play for your school team or you, you a university team or something, but I do think that we need something like that. Yes, I mean, it would certainly be a start, I think, and it would certainly make us, I think, perhaps, appreciate what men are, what they do, and what's required of a man as opposed to a woman. And you mentioned character, which is a word that seemed to have just ceased to exist until very, very recently again, is that notion of character coming back and what it means to be a good person and how to and men can certainly lead that way because men have always had kind of that
Starting point is 00:37:52 preoccupation about what, in fact, I've heard from young men, they're looking towards older men to give them some guidance on these issues, which the previous two or three generations were about casting off previous generations. These guys are lost and they, want spiritual, and I would argue, sort of the exactly we're talking about, guidance. Yeah, well, I think you only need to look actually at the Jordan Peterson phenomenon. I mean, it's kind of, I wouldn't say the Jordan Peterson phenomenon is totally over, but, you know, if you cast your mind back to say 2016, 2017, 2018, when it was really taking off, it was like a religious revival.
Starting point is 00:38:34 I mean, it really was. I mean, he was like a prophet figure, you know, people, scores of young men. would go to his lectures, would mob him and, you know, go up to him and say, you've changed my life, you know, I look to you for guidance, you know, you've absolutely revolutionised the way that I live and it's, you know, had this incredible effect on me. And, you know, I mean, he could, I mean, what a weight, what a burden for him to bear. And, you know, you could see at times he became so emotional was crying because he really couldn't, really couldn't believe just how much, not only how much suffering
Starting point is 00:39:09 there is among young men, but also how much, how little it takes actually to encourage men to be better and to put their lives on a better path. So, that's a really, that's a really interesting point that I don't think people appreciate because they, they, again, that
Starting point is 00:39:25 whole, the sort of, what do we call the sort of Nick Fuentes and those sorts of worlds, the grippers and stuff, that whole, that whole phenomenon makes it feel like men need some sort of extreme
Starting point is 00:39:41 sort of encouragement. They don't. They need very little. They need not to be told they're a POS and they need to be encouraged and give it a little direction and a pat on the back once in a while. Yeah, well I mean, I think
Starting point is 00:39:58 if you tell people that if you tell a man he's a POS enough times he's going to say, okay, well actually if he has any spirit as well, this is the thing, you know, okay, I am a POS and you're going to see exactly how much of a POS I am. So it is about messaging. It is about the right kinds of encouragement, the right kinds of mentorship.
Starting point is 00:40:19 And, you know, for so many men, so many men, especially if they grew up, say, in a fatherless home, you know, I mean, they've not had a single positive male role model in their lives. And so actually, you could do so much good just with a very, very little bit of precisely directed. mentorship. Yeah, you drop a lot of words that I think must always be part of your conversation, but they're actually very profound, character, mentor, you know, I forget there's some of the other things we mentioned, but these are all really important and very deep and complex topics. Is that all in The Last Man?
Starting point is 00:41:03 Yeah, there's plenty of that. There's plenty of that. there's um it approaches the problem from multiple different levels so it approaches the biological there's um social political but also philosophical as well because it is a complex problem this isn't a problem that has a single cause uh there isn't a single sort of thing you can point point your finger at and say that's the blame for you know for why young men are in such a state today um so yes i i treat all of these things uh in depth well we've got to get the book because if we're going to solve this problem we all need to be educated we need to have a plan we need to know the breadth and depth of the problem and then we need to think about what we can do to help solve it but you're right it is not a monolithic problem it has biological it has environmental it has interpersonal it has political philosophical when you say philosophical my last question is anything specific you're coming upon there you mean
Starting point is 00:42:03 Stoic type philosophy, or what philosophy did you sort of dig into from the standpoint of this problem? Well, actually, so the title of the book, The Last Men, is actually a reference to Friedrich Nietzsche and to his, and to Francis Fukuyama, who was, you know, an interpreter of Friedrich Nietzsche. And I leave it quite open-ended, but I ask questions about the nature of liberal democracy as a political system. And whether liberal democracy actually offers enough satisfying outlets for men to be men. And it's an open question and you'll need to read the book to see the conclusions that I come to or the questions that I ask. But fundamentally, is the world that we have created fit for men? Does it allow men to be men? And if it doesn't, what does that
Starting point is 00:42:54 actually mean? Or is there a way to harness it within the world we have created and give it a form and expression? All right, my friend, appreciate you being here. Let's get the book. We'll look for you online. Is that really your baby gravy nine? Is that actually your X handle?
Starting point is 00:43:16 It is. Yeah. Unfortunately, it was one that I chose very early on when I had no intention of ever being, you know, like a public figure. Stop. It's hard to forget. Raw egg nashelist.com. We appreciate you being here.
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Starting point is 00:43:54 or put it in a little search engine, you'll find it. It's a difficult topic. I've looked into it a bit. It's a challenging area, but there are a couple things in that supplement. There's some things in it that I'm like not thoroughly convinced we'll deal with microplastics, but there are some things in there that I am convinced could be helpful.
Starting point is 00:44:11 I can't tell you exactly what it is because it's kind of blurry when you try to look at the ingredients. But I don't know. They're mostly gut bacteria kinds of things. Yeah, and then go over there and buy an emergency kit. for your grandma for Christmas. Yeah, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:44:27 I don't mean to be plugging it, but I just asked Peter who answered me right away, which is really cool because he's the CEO of a big company. But it's called Plast Detox, and they say it's been formulated for this. So, I mean, if it helps it, who knows? It certainly would not hurt, that's for sure. Maybe I should take it because I love bottled water.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Yeah, see, I worry about bottled water for that very reason. That's exactly right. And all those plastic containers you just bought, we used to be doing glass. Now there's all those plus plastic. You can't use those. Well, don't warm it up in there. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:00 I don't do that. All right. Well, good. I sometimes do, yeah. Yeah. And microplastics, you know, it's not like I see patients that go, oh, look, liver's load with microplastic. There are not medical problems associated with microplastics.
Starting point is 00:45:12 It's not like you're going to poop out a bunch of plastic if you take this. But this idea of the estrogenization of our system by plastics, may include the phenomenon of microplastics. So it's something worse looking to. So check into the wellness company and maybe help yourself out. Fair enough. Libby Emmons is up with us next.
Starting point is 00:45:35 She is Libby, B-B-Y-E-M-E-M-O-N-S-on-X. She is the editor-in-chief for the post-millennial and human events. We got a lot to get into. She, amongst other thing, is going to talk about restoring womanhood. On the other side, we've got to make sure women understand who they are, too, and also Hillary and perhaps how she has impacted that in a not so positive way. After this.
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Starting point is 00:50:17 can you hear us yeah i can hear you guys there we go can you hear me there i hear you i hear you okay there you are thank thank you for joining me sorry no problem so there's a lot to talk about um you know we just did a whole thing with the raw nationalist about how men are suffering and oh she's frozen on my end is can you still hear me liby Caleb? Can you hear us? She's at an event and so I think she's at the hotel connection. She's coming back. She's reloading.
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Starting point is 00:51:17 So we've been talking about the attack on masculinity for the last half hour or so, but women have suffered an equally sort of extraordinary undermining. Have they not? Yes, I think so. And I was listening to some of your conversation there with baby gravy, raw-egnails journalist. And I think that he's definitely right about the information regarding the rights of passage. All cultures used to have these rights of passage. And as we eliminated God from our culture, we also eliminated these rights of passage that we had, right? I mean, in Judaism, you have a bar mitzvah, the Mowries have it. You know, they have a right of passage. In Catholicism, you have a confirmation. And these are for both men and women. And they're hugely important because they let kids know what the expectations are for adulthood and what it means to become an adult.
Starting point is 00:52:13 And it gives them that understanding. Now I'm a grown-up in my community. And how has this gone off the rail lately here? I understand you're taking aim at Hillary as part of the source. Yeah, I mean, she's, of course, a total disaster, but it's not just Hillary Clinton. It's the entire Democratic setup, right? Because by getting rid of confirmation and bar mitzvahs
Starting point is 00:52:36 and the other rites of passage that we used to have, they've been replaced with a new one. They've been replaced with coming out. So now you see a lot of kids coming out around the age of 13, 14, They say that they're gay. They say that they're trans or non-binary. Because it turns out, I think it's possible that the concept of a right of passage may be embedded in the human DNA.
Starting point is 00:52:59 We may need something. And so when we remove the things we've had, what we end up with is a replacement that is not only subpar, but is extremely dangerous. You bring up RFK here. And I think what they did today is really tremendous for all boys and girls, you know, to say, that child sex changes are not going to be allowed in this country anymore, that if hospitals undertake these kinds of procedures, they're not going to be able to get the federal funding
Starting point is 00:53:27 from Medicaid and Medicare that they rely on to function. Yeah, Jay Badashari did a long symposium today where he reviewed the data on the risk rewards, essentially, whether there was benefit to these interventions. And it just wasn't there. And most of the Western world has caught up with that. And it's like, it reminds me so much of the opioid thing. And they actually did, one of the, one of the scientists did bring up the,
Starting point is 00:53:53 what's called the Porter Jick letter, which upon which all the opioid prescribing was, was so hung on that letter to the New England Journal of Medicine. And they just get in these hysterias, it seems like, where they can't get out of their own way and look at their job, which is to do the risk-reward assessment of every intervention for every child. The right patient, right intervention, right risk reward analysis. And I feel like they are going at that now finally. And it should turn things around. It was the federal government that turned the opioid crisis around. It was Jeff Sessions who went in to put a bunch doctors in prison for excess prescribing. And man, it stopped right away. Tell me, I'm seeing, I feel like I'm seeing
Starting point is 00:54:37 women changing right now. And you tell me if I'm seeing this. I, you know, let me see if I I have, this is not a fully formed thought yet, but I'm going to sort of paint a little history there. I feel like Epstein trafficked women around money, that money and power was the intent of that trafficking or how he was able to pull that off. You come out here and you have guys like Hugh Hefner and he was doing the same exact thing to women, but using sort of fame and glamour and show business as the as the currency and it seems to me that women have gone through a long period of exploitation over the last 30 years or so maybe 50 years where they were sold a bill of goods lots of different things were in that bill of goods by the way
Starting point is 00:55:35 amongst them was you can do it all and you can do it whenever you want to and all these things but it was also that you were cool, you were better if you went along with this trafficking and exploitation. Are things changing? Are we moving away from all that in a healthier direction or is it still going south? Yeah, I think we are moving away from that in a bit of a healthier direction and I think most of the reason for that is because women are finding that these offerings are not actually making them happy or making them feel like they are living a mission-driven life, right? I mean, if you're, pardon the expression,
Starting point is 00:56:12 but if you're going to let somebody whore you out, like you're going to feel really bad about yourself that's not going to have been true, right? And so the feminist movement, the far left. What they were told was, but they were told if you feel bad about that is because there's something wrong with you, right? So you're flawed because you feel bad about it.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Right. I mean, you could go back to, you could go back to Woody Allen films And you can see women in those films, you know, there's a scene, you're going to hate me for this. But there's a scene where one of the women says, you know, I finally had an orgasm and my doctor told me it was the wrong kind. So women are constantly being told that the way they are existing in this world, interacting with men, having relationships, having careers, having children, not having children, right? We're constantly told that everything we're doing is pretty much wrong. We're constantly being given this message that you're not good enough and you're not pretty,
Starting point is 00:57:06 enough, you're not rich enough, you're not career-driven enough, whatever it is. And it's always, you know, we've had problems like this for a long time, but I do think that the sexual revolution caused a situation in women where there was a schism between the thing that you felt like you wanted to do and the thing that you were being told by society you should do. And I think women, I think the younger generation of women is hopefully coming back around now and saying, you know what, all of this nonsense that you told me is not making me happy. I don't want to have a high body count. I don't want to sleep around. I don't want to be, you know, 40s and successful and perhaps famous, but miserable on the inside with only my cats and dogs to come home to.
Starting point is 00:57:47 I think that women hopefully are getting a new message. And I think it's up to conservative women, which mostly are the most well-known of them are in media to deliver this message and say, hey, being a mom is great. Being a wife is great when you're married to a good man. Hey, men, be a good man, your wife is going to be crazy about that, create families, create the building blocks of society that we need to have a successful nation and that we need to have joy in our lives. You know, that's really pretty fundamental. And it does need to be a collaboration with men. And I'm sort of, maybe that's what I'm sort of sensitive to.
Starting point is 00:58:25 I'm hearing more sort of, you know, advice type posts on Instagram and things about women talking about, you know, what they've been sold that's inaccurate and what does make for a good relationship, what does make men happy. And I think that's moving in the right direction and also a spiritual life. Yeah. And I think also when women give up their virtue, which is something that I know Erica Kirk has talked about and others I've talked about, but when women give up their virtue, men hate them because suddenly what's so great about this woman, she's been used by everybody. Why would I cherish her? And when men give up their masculinity, women say, what's so great about this man? How can he protect me? How can he, you know, lead a family? How can I rely on him? And I think we need to get back to some of these basics. You know, there's a reason that there's a reason that, you know, dads used to tell their daughters, no, you can't go out all night. You know, there's a reason that men used to open doors and stand up for the women that they were, you know, in love with. and take care of them a little bit.
Starting point is 00:59:32 And I... She'll be back. Just a little frozen there. I want to recommend a book to her. I don't know if she can hear me yet. You agree with that. Do you agree with that, though? I mean...
Starting point is 00:59:47 Yeah, yeah. I mean, what do you think? It's just such a different era now. You know, to go back in time and change things the way they were is it's going to be hard to impress on men and women. and women. But thanks for coming jumping back here.
Starting point is 01:00:04 But I'm going to recommend a book to you. Maybe it's already in the lexicon right now, but it was really good from like the mid-80s, I'd say. It was a woman who wrote this most of it as her senior thesis at Williams College.
Starting point is 01:00:19 And the book was called A Return to Modesty. And it got a bunch of traction and then it was condemned. and sort of buried. But I'm telling you, she really does a good job of building the exact case you're talking about
Starting point is 01:00:35 and what the history is and how it works and why it should work that way. She was, I don't know what happened to that woman, but she's somebody that, am I speaking a book that you already know about? No, I don't know this book. It's called a Return to Modesty.
Starting point is 01:00:51 I'm going to see if it's still available. It was really, really good. It's probably out of print, but hold on. Any of them, are you prescribing anything particular for women? My prescribing anything? You know, there's one thing that I will say, which is when you fall in love with that guy in high school or college and you think that maybe he's the one,
Starting point is 01:01:14 don't put off marriage and kids because you think there's something better of waiting for you down the line because there probably isn't. No amount of fame or fortune or career success is going to match the joy that you can get from raising children and, you know, watching them grow into the future. And when you have kids, too, it's sort of like a time machine. You can see into the future when you have children.
Starting point is 01:01:38 You can't do that if you're just by yourself. Well, you see the book there. It's Wendy Chalit was her name. That's true. But look, I didn't have very good luck in high school. So I don't know. But I will say even more strong. that people, you know, what's life? What's the meaning of life? Why are we here? It's very simple. You're here for the next
Starting point is 01:02:04 generation. That's it. That's why you're here. You're here to pastor Jean along and then raise them in such a way that they can thrive and flourish. That's the meaning of life. And if you don't do that, okay, great, but you're going to have trouble finding meaning. Yeah, I think that that's true. And also I think, you know, I think that we are here to share the love that God shares with us with each other. And as soon as we get rid of God and we get rid of morality, we hate ourselves, we hate each other, we hate our children, you know. I mean, that's what's going on here. We have a situation right now.
Starting point is 01:02:37 This is something I just wrote about in the New York Post today. We have a situation now where Kathy Hockel, the governor of New York, signed a bill into law allowing assisted suicide in that state. What kind of compassion is a government offering when it's encouraging you to? to kill yourself, right? What kind of doctors would possibly sign on to this? Probably the same doctors that sign on to trans and kids and abortions. We'll call them Canadians, which is just for short.
Starting point is 01:03:04 They even named it that. They named it made, just like the other. You know, they named it just like a medical assistance in dying act. And this, Kathy Hockel said that this is because she watched her mother die of ALS, and she thought that was very difficult. But suffering is part of life. And I think our lives are worth more than just terminating at our own discretion. What's coming up on the post-millennial?
Starting point is 01:03:30 What's in your crosshairs? Well, we've been following this Brown shooting pretty closely. We definitely would like to know who the suspect is in that case. Police say that they've identified someone and put out an arrest warrant, but they won't say the name of that person. There was some inkling that perhaps the shooting in Providence was related to the shooting of the professor in Boston. which is something I remember when that first happened. I was like, could these be related?
Starting point is 01:03:55 Boston and Providence are super close. You know, it's just up 95. So certainly that could be a possibility. And we're looking at that. We're also here at America Fest, Turning Points, America Fest. And so we're going to be looking at the speeches tonight. We're going to be talking to people about what it's like this year. Of course, there's a very notable absence.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And so far people who are coming by the, yeah, so far people coming by the post-millennial booth today, were telling me about their grief and sharing that grief. And it's very palpable in that building because Charlie was such a huge presence. And everyone loved him. Yeah, that is a challenge. Okay, I'm going to have Emily Barsh, who booked you here, send you that book, send you the link to that book.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Have you seen that video with that dude? I seem to be an official from Brown University. admonishing everybody for daring to use the term brown killer the brown killer because it cast an unfair light on anybody brown and we're talking about the brown university and it looked like an s and l skit we've become a we've become a giant s&L skid in this country what do you say about that did i lose her again ah she froze yeah she's just in Just in time. Just in time. Hotel internet. Yeah. I'm sure it's a lot of people on there too.
Starting point is 01:05:26 That's probably a huge number of people there. Yeah. Hold on. Yeah. I saw that and I said, oh, we should have said university. You know, we didn't use the proper... Brown University killer? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:40 If you're reporting, you said the Brown killer. Like, it's not the Brown killer, though. You got that wrong. Like, how dare you? There could be nothing more racist than being so aware of it. being so aware of race that you can't allow people to speak freely. I wouldn't have even thought about him being brown. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:05:57 I would just think about it's a brown thing. But think about what that guy's motivation is. I'm going to tell you how to speak. You need to listen to me. You need to try harder. These are dangerous people. You need to try harder. These are dangerous people that do stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Really, really. If people were saying racist by all means, but it's dangerous. Go ahead. Yeah. No, these are also people who were saying, Um, they were saying, you know, don't, uh, talk about who you think the suspect might be because that's not appropriate and don't go around saying that you think it might be this person or that person because that's mean to that person. And that's part of this whole thing, right? Where we have a lot more sympathy for the people who commit crimes than the people who are victims of them. That's true at Brown. Does, um, yeah. Does the post-millennial have a ex feed? I don't, I don't think I have that to draw that, uh, handle. We do. You can. You can. You can. You can. can find us at T. Post-Millennial. The post-millennial and also Libby Emmons, E-M-M-O-N-S-N-X. Libby, have a nice time at the, we call it a convention. Is it a convention there?
Starting point is 01:07:02 We sure do. Is that what they call it? Gathering. Yeah. Convention Center. Have a nice time and we'll look forward to your reporting from there. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks so much, Drew. Appreciate it. You got it. If anybody wants to know what we're talking about, the guy's name is Josh Hall, 2024 on X. Is that right? The guy that did, what do you mean? Josh Hall. That's the guy that did it? That's his name. Joshua Hall. And he said, you know, they, he was doing a... I'm surprised he put his Twitter handle out there because he's going to get a lot of abuse for that.
Starting point is 01:07:33 It seems like... Or somebody retweeted that, I'm sorry. The guy that retweeted, I don't know. The guy that retweeted it was that name. Go ahead, Kayla. Just going to throw out there that if you're talking about the same video that I'm thinking of, it's a possibility that that was an AI edited video, but all. So, again, it is so sad. We've gotten to this point that that seems so realistic.
Starting point is 01:07:53 It's believable. Oh, no. Was that AI? My first reaction was it was AI. That was my first reaction. There's so much AI now that is out there. It is astonishing. But how about the fact that we are so able, it seems so easy to believe that somebody would behave like that, that we accept that as truth.
Starting point is 01:08:14 So, yeah, be very careful. I want to know if it's AI now. I wouldn't be surprised at it. Yeah. Send me to link it. I'll take a look. You just run my day. I know.
Starting point is 01:08:23 I ruined everybody's fun that way. It was actually very funny though. It only, Joshua Hall retweeted it or posted. He had a million views with it. There were lots of people posting it and reposting it. But he maybe he's the one that created it. A.
Starting point is 01:08:37 I creator. Freed political prisoner. That's what he calls himself. Interesting. Okay. What's coming up? Caleb's get the upcoming guest. We're going to go Monday at two with Shane Cashman, Peachie Kienin and Emily Hagan.
Starting point is 01:08:48 coming in. Alex Marlowe. Excuse me. This cold has been driving me insane. Oh, geez. All right. Salty Cracker, J.P. Spears coming back around. February is a big month. Hey, we got to look at that J.P. Spears date. I think we're in Poland taking Teresa back there then. What J.P. Spears? In February? 12th of February, yeah. Oh, gosh. I'm really anxious to speak to him again. Oh, okay. Sorry, Emily. We can get him back home. Yeah, he'll probably cancel anyways. No, no, no, no. He does not. He's very reliable.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Okay. So, let me look at your comments here on the restream or whatnot. Emily's been working hard, so she's already end of February. Race G.T. says he, his sons or her son's environment at school was destructive for a son. Thank you, Leave Green. Thank you, everybody. Thank you, Inferno. we're moving in on the holidays everyone so I hope everyone is prepared I don't know as we move closer to the holidays
Starting point is 01:09:54 I was not feeling very holiday-ish a week ago but if we get closer I'm feeling like I don't know we just heard something optimistic from John Solomon and I heard something optimistic from Dave Rubin the other day and so I don't know maybe this reason to feel good about the new year. We're helping men and women
Starting point is 01:10:09 and you can clear out your bells with plastic with plastic what's the name? Plast detox Is that the name of the wellness company? Speaking of the holidays, Trump just gave a nice little gift to everybody. He signed executive orders establishing two extra days off
Starting point is 01:10:25 for federal workers. They get Christmas Eve. I think it's even the day after Christmas. And they get a 1% pay in the new year. I think I'm about to go on Laura Ingraham and talk about his rescheduling of marijuana. I actually think that was a very good idea.
Starting point is 01:10:44 The scheduling just know this, if you want to take issue with me on that one. The whole scheduling structure is BS. It makes no sense. You know what is Schedule 1? LSD, non-addictive drug, needs some research, by the way, and heroin, terribly addictive drug. They have nothing to do with each other, nothing in any way related to each other. And then you go down to Schedule 3, which is considered sort of non-addictive.
Starting point is 01:11:12 well, there you find things like Ambien and Adderall. So it's just so BSy. The bottom line is we need to be able to get the research on cannabis we need to understand its risks and benefits and really work that out once and for all. And reschedule it allows that. It really doesn't change much else. All right, everybody. We'll see you on Monday, special show Monday because of Christmas.
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