Ask Dr. Drew - BREAKING: Pres. Biden: "The Pandemic Is Over." Is This Medical Misinformation? – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 127

Episode Date: September 23, 2022

In a 60 Minutes interview on Sept 18, President Biden said "The pandemic is over. We still have a problem with COVID. We're still doing a lot of work on it. But the pandemic is over." Will Pres. Biden be banned from social media for medical misinformation? Dr. Drew discusses this and answers calls LIVE. 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 SPONSORED BY 」 • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get 10% off with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew 「 ABOUT the SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 GEAR PROVIDED BY 」 • BLUE MICS - After more than 30 years in broadcasting, Dr. Drew's iconic voice has reached pristine clarity through Blue Microphones. But you don't need a fancy studio to sound great with Blue's lineup: ranging from high-quality USB mics like the Yeti, to studio-grade XLR mics like Dr. Drew's Blueberry. Find your best sound at https://drdrew.com/blue • ELGATO - Every week, Dr. Drew broadcasts live shows from his home studio under soft, clean lighting from Elgato's Key Lights. From the control room, the producers manage Dr. Drew's streams with a Stream Deck XL, and ingest HD video with a Camlink 4K. Add a professional touch to your streams or Zoom calls with Elgato. See how Elgato's lights transformed Dr. Drew's set: https://drdrew.com/sponsors/elgato/ 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 For over 30 years, Dr. Drew has answered questions and offered guidance to millions through popular shows like Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Dr. Drew On Call (HLN), Teen Mom OG (MTV), and the iconic radio show Loveline. Now, Dr. Drew is opening his phone lines to the world by streaming LIVE from his home studio. Watch all of Dr. Drew's latest shows at https://drdrew.tv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

And welcome everybody. We are coming to you from New York City. Today, really essentially, ask me anything if you wish. We can get into it from Twitter spaces where we'll be taking calls. You just raise your hand there and thereby I'll be bringing you up to the podium and you'll be streaming out on multiple platforms. One of the topics we'll be talking about was President Biden's interview on 60 Minutes where he said, quote, the pandemic is over. We still have a problem with COVID, but the pandemic is over. And he's right. But having said so, created a bunch of headaches for him. So we'll talk about some of that. And again, we'll take your calls. See what else you guys want to talk about.

We have a lot of great guests coming up this week, including Edward Dowd and Mark McDonald, and then Jay Bhattacharya next week. But we'll tell you more about that once we get going. Let's get started. Our laws as it pertains to substances are draconian and bizarre. A psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin.

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Ooh, we'll do more questions tomorrow. And on Wednesday, we'll do Edward Dowd. And on Thursday, we'll do Mark McDonald. and on Wednesday we'll do uh Edward Dowd and on Thursday we'll do um Mark McDonald I'm interested in talking to again he um he's a psychiatrist that early on was uh raising concerns about the level of paranoia and panic and hysteria and I'm curious to see he's written a new book as well and I'm curious to see what his thoughts are these days uh other than correcting me about the schedule, Susan, anything else going on? You did a great interview with Tim Pool. And we got some new listeners. If anybody's out there, hello. That's good. And did you want to announce anything

else about questions at the end of the interviews or something? So I don't know. Everybody on YouTube, if you have any questions, we're thinking if you want to give us a little super chat we'll we'll call you out at the end of the show also um i wanted to be on the restream that would they do that yeah on on youtube yeah if you're over on youtube okay um also hi everybody on rumble nice to see you uh and facebook and twitter thank you for joining us today. Hope you guys enjoy. So speaking of Rumble, Saza over there says, so the medical emergency is over,

then why do international travelers need proof of COVID jams to visit the USA? Yeah. By the way, the World Health Organization is also on the record saying that they think it's over. And there's a lot of unraveling that needs to be done in order for us to really come to terms. You realize how many layers of excesses are upon us when you start to think about what it means that it's over. Here are just a couple of ideas.

Let me read you something here. This is from the Washington Post. The Post points out that it's already interfering with the White House's ability to secure funds for vaccine and treatments. Let's say the Republicans are saying that why the administration would renew its public health emergency, which I would ask the same thing of California, which has been egregiously sustained. The emergency declaration, which is set to expire next month, has allowed the federal

government to pursue a lot of things that they really shouldn't be able to do, such as authorizing emergency treatments. And also, it may affect the way people are covered by Medicaid. There's a lot of things that you wouldn't normally think of as part of what's going on here that's going to be affected by the end of the pandemic. But for instance, one think tank estimates that 15.8 million Americans could lose Medicaid coverage. So Medicaid, so that many people are pushed to Medicaid by the emergency. So there are sort of practical issues involved in this that a lot of us, including myself, weren't specifically aware of. I do think, though, calling it an ongoing public health emergency has provided, as you've heard me talk about before, a ridiculously excess authority on the part of

public health, which has been egregiously used. I don't know if you saw the retweets that Vinay Prasad was putting out today. There was a former head of the NIH, I think, who was saying that, yeah, perhaps we should have been more honest with what we were doing and been more clear about our uncertainty. Man, boy, that's the least he can say about some of the choices they made, they completely lost the trust of the people by being authoritarian and capricious and absolute, and then trying to crush anyone that dared to raise their hand and go, do you really mean that? I'm not sure that quite used what you meant to say. Maybe there's something a little more, that we don't have science for that yet. And maybe you want to qualify that and

say that we're electing to do this, even though we don't really know why we're just trying to make we're trying to do something non-pharmacologic to change things here now we have since learned through the interviews we've done in this show that uh they made a conscious decision to use fear to mandate the zero covid lockdown policies that they wanted to demand. And that, particularly in states that ran aggressively to that side of the boat, so to speak, that really took that mantle that the public health organizations were putting out and take it to the extreme, those are the regions that really got harmed, where kids were kept out of school for years, where businesses were closed for years. This is really outlandish

consequences that should have been thought about, or at least should have been measured along the way. We had years to look at what we were doing. It was very clear along the way also that what we were doing was not having the desired consequence. In other words, zero COVID was not something even remotely realistic. Now, once we got to vaccines, that story has yet to be fully told. Again, the public health policy became far over their skis in terms of their policy, which is vaccine is the just and only policy, and nothing can be called into question that might cause somebody to question vaccine therapy. Now, I kind of understand that one more than the lockdowns, to tell you the truth, because the anti-vaccine rhetoric has been so ensconced in social media that i bet yeah uber

alice just means above everything else uh that it's so ensconced in social media a bit i bet they were fearful that the anti-vaccine rhetoric would start to infect uh people that were sort of on the on the fence with using the vaccines when in fact because they again took these extraordinary measures to crush any dissent, it caused sort of a Streisand-like effect where people wanted to look behind the curtain and they became more paranoid and more distrustful. Even to this day, it is clear that vaccines were helpful. It's just absolutely clear. Was there a cost?

I'm sure. Was that cost worth it in terms of adverse events and really serious adverse events? That is still getting worked out. I'll say it again and again that in the elderly population, that risk reward clearly came down and continues to come down on the side of vaccine therapy. If you are under 65 or under 30 it starts to get a little bit cloudier and people are still working on those those data so here we go let's uh let's get to it and take some calls you guys a lot of hands are up here let me just um kind of get right to you guys uh this is sean sean what's going on? Let me make sure my phone's on.

Susan, we're on at your end. You just disappeared. Oh, you know what? We're not even on. And this thing's not on? There we are now. Okay. I think I lost Sean.

Okay, I know. You know what? There was no sound going out to Twitter spaces. So anybody who's out there, hi. Welcome to the show. Oh my God, I'm so sorry. Really? No sound of Twitter spaces? Yeah, we weren't checking that. Yeah, the thing was off.

The phone was off. Caleb, is that true? I think I saw it moving, so maybe it got paused, but I think that people were hearing it at least in the beginning. No, I don't think they were. I just had it off because you did an interview earlier so anybody who's on twitter spaces would be taking your calls now uh sorry you missed the beginning of the show

hopefully you're watching on the set the live stream simultaneously so you know what dr drew just said all right let me though oh here's somebody saying sal is saying dr is wrong there are countries that couldn't afford therapy they had less i'm not sure what you're saying less death um yeah you trying to compare countries is a somewhat of a fool's errand because the different age distributions and you have to you have to really control for so many things so just one country versus another doesn't not a great way to look at things uh let's see oh they heard us the whole time they did that's so weird it was it was off yep oh well see if we can get somebody up there andrew ashkazvili open the

beaches back up take the sand out of the half pipes in the skate park put the basketball rims back on yeah andrew thank you for pointing at the most insane uh aspects of in california the pandemic when the the grotesque incompetence was on full display, when they were closing the beaches, and then when they let people back on the beaches, you're allowed to stand on the beaches alone, but dare not lay a towel down, or they will come arrest you. They're hearing us fine. Yeah.

Nope. I think they're hearing it. Let's see. I'm looking at your guys' comments here before I go back to the calls. Daughter couldn't get an internship because she wasn't vaccinated. Yep.

I mean, it is really... She's 16. I'm just saying it's egregious now to create this outgroup of the unvaccinated. It's always been a bad idea. I understand why they did it, It's always been a bad idea. I understand why they did it, but that has been a bad idea. And I've been against the,

look, I've been for passports, but against the out group, creating of an out group. And it was discriminatory. It was grotesquely discriminatory. And it wasn't based on choice as you who defended imply. All right.

Am I sponsored by vaccines? Nope. No vaccines. I've been using them a lot for my elderly patients and they have derived great benefit. There have been almost no side effects in the very elderly. In the younger, it's a different issue. It's a different concern. All right.

So let's try to get to it here. There's 60 people out there. Somebody must have a question. It says, well, this is CanMe2020. YouCanMe2020, something like that. There are plenty of questions coming up. What do you got there? I don't know the name.

Oh, there she is. You just got to unmute that mic in the lower left-hand corner. And YouCanAskMe2020 is the name of this caller. She has an interview with Dr. Rish, Harvey Rishup, which is someone we interviewed last week. Your mic is still muted, so I'm unable to speak to you. So I'm going to go to

Harlan and I'm going to take let's see if we can get anybody in here. Come on, kids, unmute yourself. While Harlan is coming up. Andrew, again, my mom almost got raccoon eye. Yeesh. Again, that's a sign of a consumptive coagulopathy,

and that's one of the more serious side effects of vaccine therapy. So, Harlan, what's going on there? Hey, Dr. Drew, it's good to talk to you. I've been listening for many, many, many years, and I think what you do is wonderful. I work in the college space. I actually have written a bunch of books, and I speak on campuses and work with high school students, too. And, you know, I don't understand why schools aren't doing more, high schools specifically, to support the transition for students from high school to college. We know, I was thinking about this over the 20 plus years I've been doing this, the only thing that's changed is more students are feeling hopeless. There are more problems, you know, more students struggling. And it's only when a student takes their life

or there's some, you know, catastrophic situation in a community where they feel compelled to take action. And, you know, I'm trying to do my own thing to be part of the solution. But I'm really curious to know, you know, as this progresses and it doesn't, you've, you've seen it, it's not getting better, right? Yeah. Well, colleges have active programs for the first year students to keep them retained. And of course, and of course they're, you know, trying to attend to the mental health. That's sort of the issue that sends people back home, uh, and, you know, decreases their probability of finishing college. You're talking about people that really need the help with just the transitional process, and those tend to be kids at risk.

And there are organizations that do things like that, but you're right. I mean, there needs to be a lot of resources for those kids available. And they, in my experience, I don't know what your experience has been, but in my experience, they tend to resist using them. They sort of feel like they shouldn't need to because many other kids don't need it.

Therefore, why should I? Which is sort of how kids think. But yeah, I agree with you. What is your job? What do you call what you do? Well, I wrote a book called The Naked Roommate and 107 Other Issues You Might Run Into in College. And that book's been the number one book on college life. It has over a million copies in print.

And then I have a really popular TikTok that has almost about a thousand followers where I offer college tips. I just did one on binge drinking and on blackouts and people are using the sound to blackout. But, um, say that again. They're using what they, so on TikTok,

you could do a sound, you know, like i did this tiktok where if you drink so much your goal is to black out then you know you have a drinking problem yes then the tip was blacking out is not safe yeah so you know this be this is like over a million views people really loved it and then they made it into a sound and they're using the sound to um you know like party where they can use my voice and the tip. And, um, I then did one that was like, you know, why do you guys do this? I'm just curious, you know, to stimulate dialogue because the big thing is, I know the surgeon

general has been talking about wanting to do more for mental health and wanting to help teenagers. You know, this doesn't, it's not going to happen in the schools and you know you are i really you're one of my heroes with this because you've been you've been there forever for these you know most these teenagers lives but in terms of like having a real plausible solution and i'll send you my stuff i mean i i don't see it but let me tell you my just briefest sort of thoughts on this. There is something changing in high school age kids. I stopped speaking at high schools because they, they seem to be intolerant of expertise. I kept getting this feedback that you're,

you're too, you're speaking for too much authority. It's like, if I don't have authority, who does? I, I, I've got 40 years of

experience i hope i have some authority on this topic so i i thought oh this is a change something is different there but i will tell you the binge drinking on college campuses there's sort of two aspects of that one is the consistent endorsement by the college communities they just sort of kids will be kids as opposed to looking at it as a as a behavioral problem as a mental health problem and when you go into the colleges and talk to them about why they drink it's really around social anxiety that's really the reason and more often and i sort of are used to approach the topic through the whole hookup culture and i would say look if if hooking up is such a cool thing it's the cornerstone of your college experience why do you have to be effed up to do it if it's so great

why do you have why you always effed up when you do that and was fascinating how the males tended to respond very differently than the females and neither group had any idea what the other were thinking and uh sort of calling that all out and letting them talk about it does tend to help it a bit because you see there's very different motivational priorities going on for the most part so uh it's it's until they get honest about what they're all experiencing it's you know they're going to be anxious as hell and that yeah that alcohol is just to kind of quench amongst other things the anxiety the the females by the, will say that they do it to make sure they don't have any feelings. Forget it.

The men will say it's anxiety. The females say, the males say anxiety. The females say, just so I don't have any feelings at all. Right. Kind of sad. I've connected it to rejection. I'm obsessed with rejection. I love rejection.

Like the king of rejection. Practice rejection. Yeah, and you're right. that's what the men are anxious about right that's what they get their sights set on something they reject it it's painful and they don't want to feel that so they don't want to remember it even and you're absolutely right that if you're uh blacking out blacking out specifically is not a sign of a normal relationship with alcohol that's a right something might be going on well great i'm so glad you're there how old are you you know the question is big and there isn't really a one specific answer but i wanted to at

least at least connect because yeah in one on it and i think that uh you know it'd be wonderful to share to share more with you offline if you're interested oh i'm 100 i'm very interested i'm glad you're doing it harlan uh let me%. I'm very interested. I'm glad you're doing it. Harlan. Let me see. I broke up, but if there's a way to do that, I would love to do that. Caleb is going to tell you right now. If I may also just toss this out there, I knew I recognized your name and it's because I was given the naked roommate like 10 something, 15, however many years ago, whenever I was going into college and it absolutely, I read the whole thing in my rush to get to college. And that's, that really definitely helped me. I was like, I know who this, I know this guy's name. So I, if you please reach out

to us at drdrew.com, just email contact at drdrew.com and I'll get in touch. Yeah. Contact it. And of course, Caleb is giving you a compliment the way all my people always give me, Oh, you helped me so much. And I i helped thank you for getting me to call i left four months later but anyway thank you for that but you made it man you're here you're your own choice yeah you got there exactly it's so fun i always get the the uh you help me so much and so i'm in recovery now i was a heroin addict for 10 years but anyway it takes what it takes all right but listen harley i look forward to uh touching base with you right that's cool thanks for the space guys thanks for what you do you bet you bet okay mac zig this is let's see what this is all about um i'm gonna try and get that name right

max zig six you're up here with whatever it is you like talk about uh let me read a little bit off facebook here stacy says i didn't get the vaccine i heard so many horror stories wanted to go on a cruise uh wasn't even an option to go into quarantine status so i went to vegas instead i know i may have to get the vaccine because of going to Europe, even though I clearly do not need it. I've had the J&J vaccine. I had Delta. I had Omicron. I've been exposed to Omicron multiple times in closed spaces and didn't get it.

But I think you can get a doctor's note. And I've had it. If you had it within 190 days of traveling, you can get a release to travel from your physician, which I did because I had the booster in December and then I got COVID twice. But I think you can also get another letter from your doctor. They're starting to loosen up a little bit. But you have to prove that you either shouldn't have the vaccine

or you've already had COVID. Back on Rumble, Tamron is saying, interesting how this all coincides with a court ruling against social media for censorship practices. EUA should be rescinded for all vaccines, blah, blah, blah. But she's got a point there that Alex Berenson had yet another win on social media. Okay, what's going on there, Max Zig? Yes, I'd like to talk about what happened yesterday with the president and what he said. I happen

to have cancer and a very severe form of cancer. What kind of cancer is that? What kind of cancer do you have? Triple negative metastatic cancer. Also, it's in the lymph nodes. What kind of cancer do you have? Triple negative metastatic cancer. Yes.

And also it's in the lymph nodes. And I have had to have all the vaccines and also been warned to stay away from anyone with COVID. Yes, you should be wearing N95 if you're out of a isolated environment. Yes, sir. How irresponsible was it

for him to say... He was just stating the fact. We are out of the pandemic phase. We're into the endemic phase. It's just a fact. I happen to live in... It is the fact. We are out of the pandemic phase. We're into the endemic phase. It's just a fact. I happen to live in here. It is a fact. It is a fact. It is not a fact.

We are out of the pandemic, and we are into the endemic. Now, you need to protect yourself at all costs. You need to be fully vaccinated. You need to have packs of it on hand, and you need to wear an N95 mask if you're going out of doors with the cancer burden that you've got. People who are at risk, which I take care of a lot of, still need to be carefully, not because we're in a pandemic, we're in an endemic. This is a virus that will be around for a thousand years. And an endemic phase

is just like many other coronaviruses, we learn how to manage and live with it. This is Michael, I think. Michael, yep. Whoops. Michael, come on up here. Michael. Hello. Hi there. Hey, Dr. Drew. How are you? Good. What's happening? Yeah. So my name is Mike. And I've had a severe reaction about 19 months ago from, you know, my injection. And, you know, it started off with like intense head pressure. And then it led to the inability to walk, the inability to speak. Oh, boy. How old are you? I'm 30.

Well, I'm 37. I was 37 at the time. I'm 38 now. And how long ago? This was like a year ago you took it? 19 months, yeah. Okay. And go ahead.

So since then. Which vaccine? That was your first dose or second dose of something? First dose of Moderna, yeah. The symptoms started the day after. Wow. So since then, long story short, I've developed neuropathy, head to toe, pretty much insane muscle twitching in my legs, my feet, my biceps, my eyes, my back. I've lost 33 pounds. I have petite seizures that have been

diagnosed. So, you know, I mean, there's not really a question here. I mean, I guess the question would be, I mean, do you feel like, I mean, do you feel like we're ever going to kind of heal from this? I mean, we don't even really know what's going on. I think, all right, first, you bring up a point. This seems so matter-of-fact to me, but I'm going to say it. We're not going to get better unless we get honest about everything in relation to this pandemic that the lockdowns didn't work that masking didn't work that n95s have some utility for somebody at risk they can protect themselves much like a doctor walking in a room with an infectious disease can protect him

or herself the vaccines help elderly patients under 40 and certainly under 30 there are some grave concerns and we need to we need to be get honest about what those concerns are i have heard stories like yours they are horrible i hate to hear it i've heard of sudden death other things i can't tell yet because they're being so circumspect about the data i really can't tell in some sort of standard of care sort of way, some agreed upon consensus about how common what happened to you and other people is. Am I talking to you, somebody who was one in 10 million or one in a thousand? And even if it's one in 10,000, is that worth the risk versus the risk of COVID for you? And that's the thing that nobody is being honest and clear about. In the meantime, the CDC says, we're just streamlining our messaging.

Just 12 and above take it. 12 and above take it. And in the meantime, I don't know if you saw those ads in New York for myocarditis. How to tell if you have myocarditis this myocarditis is common enough now that we have to we have to show commercials about how to recognize the symptoms in children and young adults so i am i am i am just i i am mortified at the lack of clarity even in areas where we we don't, we should at least be clear that we don't know yet. And so someone like you, if you went into this thing and knew what your risk reward was, you wouldn't suffer as much.

But you now are sitting here going, God, maybe I shouldn't have done this at all. And that makes your suffering worse. So the thing is, right, is that like if I knew the risks, I knew what I could have, you know what I mean? I knew what I was getting into. And what's, what's really crazy is that, um, I'm a part of a bunch of support groups. So we, we were starting to find each other. Yeah. And the biggest group that we have, it has about a, it's, it's about 27,000 so far. And what I've noticed is that most of the symptoms are neurological and about 70% of them are women. Well, that's true. It is more common in women and, and it is in, I would imagine the

most common is sort of fatigue and shortness of breath, that kind of stuff, right? Well, in our group, in our group, unfortunately it's, it's full body seizures. It's on a bit on abilities to speak. It's, um, you people have been, you know, paralysis. The list goes on and on and on. There's a lot of MCAS situations where people are breaking out in different kinds of vasculitises. Yeah. So hold on. So hold on.

I want to ask some questions about that. And by the way, I am Skylar. Sad that Drew ditched Adam Carolla. I do a podcast with Adam Carolla. I speak to him every day. And I do a podcast with him three days a week. So is that ditching him? I'm not sure.

Check it out, The Adam and Drew Show on drdrew.com. Is it Adam and Dr. Drew or Adam and Drew? Adam and Drew Show. Okay. So listen, my question, I have a sort of more… Or where you listen to your podcasts. Diagnostic question for you. Did they do a nerve biopsy on you and if not

why not i can't get it approved um i i'm i'm almost positive that have some kind of small small fiber neuropathy yeah and you know those are treatable exactly and if you don't have the actual tissue it's really hard to know exactly which process is going on because many different kinds of these polyneuropathies you have to get that you have to get that i completely agree i've been to seven different specialists and you have to get that i'm sure they all recommended it you need a serial nerve biopsy and that's it okay if i were you oh my god i would get an attorney because you're risking this thing progressing and without needing to progress that's what i'm afraid of uh i'm afraid of for you i that upsets me so much uh that i hate bad medicine it drives me insane and yeah and when insurance

companies dictate what is should be well that's the problem of care should be just basic care maybe you can go uh can you get god so i i had i had an uh um an eeg done uh 48 hour eeg done yeah and they found they found transient spikes on that eeg i'm not surprised you said you have absence so that right and then somehow somehow my insurance wound up denying it so now i owe 12 000 you have to appeal and appeal and appeal they make their money by by by wearing you out i think you need an attorney or something this is craziness i agree uh well listen i am so sorry it makes me insane to hear these stories but but i'm glad you brought it to us so people get a sense of the range of what's going on do you want to tell people what the um uh organization is

you've been involved with to keep people uh yeah so it um there? Yeah, so the biggest organization is React19. I think it's ReactC19. The Facebook group and some of the Telegram groups, they're private groups, unfortunately, because we don't really want people getting in there and bots and everything

else. Because the biggest group that we had on Facebook almost reached 90,000 and it got deleted. And these are all not just long COVID patients. These are specifically vaccine reaction. These are 90% of them are, are, are vaccine injured. And the crazy thing is that we share all the same symptoms as the long haulers. No, I know.

Because we started connecting with long haulers. It's, it's some of the worst of long hauler stuff is, is represented by vaccine reactions. Yeah. Which is weird. I mean, why would the, it's just weird. I don't know quite to make that yet, but yeah, I've had a friend. worst of long hauler stuff is is represented by vaccine reactions yeah which is weird i mean why would the it's just weird i don't know what to make of that yet but yeah i've had friend i have a very good friend that had horrible long haul uh for months disabling long haul and um all right so anyway we'll leave it at that and i thank you for calling in let us know how you're doing to get

that serial nerve biopsy okay thank you sir i, sir. I appreciate it. Have a good day. You bet. All right, thank you. I cannot tell you how disturbing that is that just basic medical care can't be provided. So I mentioned earlier, I was going to talk a little bit more about President Biden's comments about ending the pandemic. Let's actually look at what he said. So this is a 60-minute interview. Let's get a look at that interview and see if we can kind of parse it out a little bit. President, first Detroit auto show in three years. Yeah.

Is the pandemic over? The pandemic is over. We still have a problem with COVID. We're still doing a lot of work on it. It's what the pandemic is over. If you notice, no one's wearing masks. Everybody seems to be in pretty good shape. He's right. I mean, he's just right.

I appreciate the candor. I appreciate the matter-of-factness because that is the fact that people are not wearing masks. Masks didn't work anyway, so we wouldn't expect much of a difference with people not wearing masks in terms of you transmitting to somebody else, but that we are in this sort of faith you know i started okay uh there's another thing i think we have to do but again there's aspects of ending the the pandemic phase that i had not thought about in terms of people that are acquired medicaid and uh emergency use authorizations there's a lot of things that sort of unravel as a result of ending the pandemic per se. But when are you going to do it then? When do we do that? And now is the time. I mean, now is the time. It was supposed to only last two weeks, remember? Yes, I do remember two weeks

to bend the curve. Turned to two years. But I want to say something here that is extremely challenging. And I want to acknowledge that this is a difficult topic for people to get their head around and i am not talking i i don't want people to accuse me of saying it's okay that this disease killed older people or that we shouldn't protect the at-risk population that's who i treat i treat you know that's who gets sick so i treat lots of elderly patients a lot of people die well what i want people to start thinking about is you know the polio coming around made me start thinking about this and i just want you to kind of kind of let this into your thinking a disease that affects young people, we think in terms of years of life lost, that's some

of the ways we think about disease and infectious diseases. So an 11-year-old gets polio, that is 70 years of life lost, 70 years. A nursing home patient, the average life expectancy of a male admitted to a nursing home in most studies is about six months. If you're so severely debilitated that you need institutional care, you need people dealing with your bowels and feeding you and turning you, your life expectancy is about six months. months so it would literally take 140 elderly patients to to create the years of life lost of one 11 year old so i just i you know and as we're getting into this phase of the pandemic now when you you i well this made me think about this too people ask what what did queen elizabeth

the second die of what he she didn't die of, she died of advanced age, but something triggers the death. And what things trigger it? Respiratory viruses or urine infections. It used to be pneumonia. Pneumonia. But now pneumonia is COVID. Pneumonia from respiratory viruses.

Yeah. My grandma died of that. She broke her hip. She went in the nursing home and she got pneumonia and she it's a little bit different she was 93 that is different the hip fracture and pneumonias can be aspiration and other things but but the but the way that humans die of advanced age is respiratory viruses that that is what one of the ways anyway. And I just think people need to put that in context of what we're fighting here as it becomes endemic. If it's not COVID, it's another respiratory virus.

And so it's different. And why there's not more alarm about polio to me is astonishing. But you have to be able to contextualize these different infectious diseases. And that's what I've been trying to do since the beginning is help people understand. That's why, you know, I don't have the textbooks with me, but I hold up those infectious disease textbooks. That's all the stuff that's waiting to get you out there. If we're going to have a safety Uber Alice policy and no infectious disease ever kill a human, we're going to have to sit in a, we're going have to sit in a we're gonna be bubble boys eat every single one of us and never move because infectious diseases are common

really common and by the way those of you that are interested in equity our international equity in terms of how we manage these illnesses is crappy is piss poor we don't do a good job of controlling dengue fever we don't do a good job of controlling um the the the helminthic the worm the worm infections the oral fecal infections we do a horrible job at that and we're in what people need to think about we're on the on the precipice of having doing a bad job in this country because we have hundreds of thousands of people on the west coast living on our streets who defecate in the streets and that is washed into our river and that goes out to the ocean without any treatment there's no sewage treatment it's literally a city the size of some a city on long island or pasadena the entire sewage of that city just going out into the

water every day, no treatment, into the ocean, no problem. So we have to really, we should be worrying about these things as much as we worry about many of the other things that are around us endemically that can hurt elderly people. And we have to kind of think in terms of keeping them safe from that. So I just thought, I don't know, does that make sense? Susan, am I making sense trying to bring that topic up? I guess. No? You didn't like it?

I wasn't paying attention. That is a striking, striking endorsement. I thank you for that. I'm reading the, never mind. I don't want to tell you. You're reading whatever's going on on Rumble? Yeah, I'm responding to some of

these crazy comments. It's so ridiculous how many people that they actually seem to believe that you're being paid by a vaccine company to push the vaccines. They don't understand the law. For one thing, how does it even work?

So for one thing, if you were a physician, you have to disclose this. But even if you weren't a physician, the FTC rules require us to disclose. In the old days, that used to happen. That used to happen. Like doctors would get sick. Oh, 40 years ago.

Yeah, but it doesn't happen anymore. But how would it work? How would that happen? I give a vaccine, and then some company pays me for that vaccine how would that work no it doesn't exist not only is it illegal illegal i mean seriously illegal they can't even bring you can lose your life that drug company can't even bring a pen into my office right to do promotion well they used to do that so they used to do that and they stopped and yeah you can't because it's illegal but how would it work it's like incredible but that was when doctors made money doctors don't make money

anymore that's true i mean listen we have genucell they're a great sponsor and they they help us up but you're not also not being paid by paxlovid to talk about it either no no no no i mean everything you talk about it i i do i do we have done work for that company petros pharmaceutical regarding issues around erectile function of male sexuality we've done a unbranded sponsor now yeah but look at how many disclosures are all over it like it's very obvious and clear it's so it is we have to say it yeah yeah a hundred percent i will not i would not do some work for a company that a i did not believe strongly in the product and b that they we were not disclosing everything we possibly exactly so i mean you used to be able to do that

back in the you know so maverick said there's a list of doctors that were given funds to support the the covet vaccine um that doesn't even make. They must have been given funds to go speak on behalf of the vaccine to do educational forums. Doctors do get paid to do educational, but not without a lot of disclosure. As you said, it's available publicly, that information. Let's see.

So anyway, whatever the thing. I am interested in what helps people. We've been through a horrible thing this pandemic uh i lost lots of patients i see a lot i saw lots of horrible covid and i saw lots of mild covid and not so bad covid um so it's you know it's it's something that i'm interested in helping our patients with and as usual the sort of middle zone is probably where the truth and reality lies. Like on Tim Pool's podcast, I talked about how Paxlovid is clearly helpful in patients over 65. And Luke said, yeah, he read some data where it says under 65, we don't know what we're doing because we don't have any data.

That's the thing. Now, the story I told on that show is I said my daughter had received paxlovid and she um by her doctor i didn't prescribe it of course and she's young but she's and she was very sick and maybe she shouldn't have gotten it i don't know it's between her and her doctor yeah but it did seem to me that she didn't get a rebound but she got reinfected very very quickly which made me think in two months yeah i wonder paxlovid interferes with the immunity that we should be generated from packs from covet so i mentioned that and i will say it again we don't know what we're doing at pax will be under the age of 65 though doctors are entitled to prescribe it at at their clinical judgment as they think fit now over 65 we know it keeps people out of the hospital it prevents death it's very very helpful we know it for sure that of the hospital. It prevents death. It's very, very helpful. We know it for sure. That data is in.

So don't confuse what doctors are doing versus what we know for sure the science tells us we should be doing. We are sometimes doing things based on our clinical impressions, and the science takes quite a bit of time to catch up with that or to tell us we were wrong in what we were doing.

Susan, you were trying to say something. We're like human guinea pigs like they have to study it now we have to go back and look at everything and all the details and find out what was good and what was bad about it those aren't the best studies i mean they have to do more randomized control studies in different age group now dr um harvey reached out something very provocative on this show we can get back and get more into which he was saying that the power of the vast majority of the randomized controlled studies done in this country meaning the the number of people or the number of outcomes that are generated aren't sufficient for those studies really to tell us anything which i thought that was a very interesting and provocative statement. So I was anxious to bring him back for that. Let's see.

This is sort of pussycats or Kelly and the pussycats or something. Is that what I'm seeing? Kelly and cats. Okay, Kelly and cats. What's up? Your mic is muted still. Do I need to take a break oh there you are

there's a bit of lag um so i was wondering um really quick let me step outside um if you could talk about um long-term adhd medication use um from childhood to adulthood. My husband was drugged up when he was a kid and he doesn't use it anymore, but I feel like it kind of messed up his, I guess, emotional responses to things now as an adult. Like I feel like he doesn't know how to regulate himself. Interesting. So, um, does he get any kind of therapy? Um, not at the moment. Insurance stuff. All right. And, and, you know, people with ADHD can have trouble in their emotions, right? That could be part of the syndrome. Oh yeah. Yeah. But I, I agree with you. I agree with you that people need to, I worry about these medications interfering with the normal arc of development,

particularly in the capacity for emotional regulation. Because people that are straight to the point that emotions are too prolonged and too negative tend to gravitate to behaviors and substances to try to regulate that because they can't regulate it well autonom regulate it well autonomously and that is a great place for therapy to work therapy can build a regulatory system so that's what i would want for him in terms of the data on adhd medication add medication the psychostimulants we both over prescribe and under prescribe at the same time uh i have grave concerns when non-mental health professionals prescribe it. Pediatricians prescribe probably the majority of it.

I think that's very, very concerning to me. There are plenty of areas of the country where kids are underserved by mental health and so get no treatment for anything. And I have concerns after the age of 18 where I've seen psychostimulants become a problem. So early on in the 90s and early 2000s, that's an interesting bird. Yeah, I'm in Florida. Yeah, sounds like it. I was watching this literature very, very carefully because we were seeing all the meth come in. I thought, well, of course, they're creating all the meth addicts from all the psychostimulants they were using in childhood.

But the data was very clear that the kids that were treated had a lower incidence of addiction. It was super clear. It was good data, and it was super clear. So it's really more about, A, the fact that it should be a real mental health professional, needs to be formally diagnosed, even with psych testing if possible, needs to be followed by a mental health professional, and every case possible, get them off the meds or try something other than meds, do things as thoroughly as you possibly can. So I am with parents that have concerns about the overprescribing, even though the data is clear,

it is in terms of character development and in terms of reducing risk of addiction. I don't know any data that says specifically that affects emotional regulation, but I have been concerned about that. I've been very concerned about that. So it makes sense to me. He talks a lot about how he doesn't remember a lot of his childhood. And it makes me think, and then also with how his medication made him feel like he was just did like a freaking eight ball or something, you know?

And so I feel like those two are connected and it makes sense. It doesn't sound, it doesn't sound good. I, who prescribed it? I have no idea. I mean, he started taking this stuff when he was like a kid, you know, he was probably like eight, you know? God, you want to get off of that.

But I bet it was his pediatrician and not even a mental health professional. That's what kills me. Probably. He has a psych now, but he doesn't have like an in-person therapist or anything like that. There's opportunity here. He would respond really well to that, it seems to me. Okay. All right.

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It's very funny. Very funny. How do you expect us to feed baby Camden? Look at this. Siler is saying, I used to trust you, but he went full vax mask mandate. Wow. Siler. When'm worried about your ability to listen and your concentration skills. That's very concerning because I have been against mandates from the beginning.

I don't know. They're projecting all their anger on you, Drew. Today? Today's the day? Yeah, they're on Rumble, yeah. We have 1,100 people over there chatting it up. All right. Well, if they would like to come over to Twitter space.

It's just funny how they're saying these things about you that are totally untrue. But they keep repeating themselves. And when I get the repeat question over and over, it's like, I saw it, okay? No. Well, want to tell me what they are so i can address them if you want to get on the phone go over to twitter spaces raise your hand you can ask him whatever you want okay he'll answer you yeah and the caps have to go drew's role is to cause as much confusion surrounding anything covet bs he has been given specific orders who gave me the

order i don't know maybe god who gives me the orders? I don't know. Maybe God. Who gives me the orders? Who gives you your orders? Oh, my God. This is great. It's pretty funny. It's so interesting to hear how people think. Listen, I mean, it is confusing. This whole thing has been confusing because, you know, at the beginning, we were all running out.

We're getting our vaccines and we did it and we felt so proud of ourselves. And now we're like, should we do it again? Do they even work? I had a really interesting. Am I going gonna have a heart attack like jesus yes yes that that's right because we were in a different situation exactly and we're then we were taking orders and we had to we wanted to know we were all scared and none of us wanted this thing and it was killing people and yeah we saw this thing that looked good and uh we all went you didn't need the vaccine you got covid i didn't think i needed it either but i took it for our travel right because we had to have our papers yeah and so that okay those are the people we were listening to we

had to do it but yeah and we're i'm trying to get out of doing it again because i think it's bs but yeah okay so i i was uh but we're not trying to be confusing we're just trying to confuse now because i was trying to make a point maybe doctor you need to speak to your doctor about your own medical health everybody make the decision vaccine and you're good congratulations we're so happy for you and we'd like you to be healthy and happy for the rest of your life. You know, that's not, we're not telling you you're wrong. So can doctors still get in trouble for if they want to use forbidden treatments? P. George?

Yeah, they can. And there's a new bill in California that's going to make it very, very serious. And they'll be considered anything off the standard of care, particularly as it pertains to the forbidden treatments, will be considered misinformation. And those doctors' licenses will be very, very seriously endangered. That is one of the very clear things about that AB 2098. And they were clear with me about it.

They were reassuring when I spoke to the president of the Board of Medical Quality Assurance. But she was quite clear about this one thing, that these things, they weren't going to tolerate. So interesting. Thankfully, they don't seem to work very well they don't do very much and we have lots of very very effective therapies out there so it's not not a big issue in terms of patient safety so all right i completely forgot what i was trying the point i was trying to make so let's go back to your calls here uh andre i to bring him up here. Andre's a physician. Give him a chance to talk.

Andre, going on. I hope you're muted there. Metaphysician. Interesting. Andre, I want to hear all about this. Yeah, there's a little lag today. Yeah. Because we're in New York.

He'll get here. Andre, your mic is still muted in the lower left-hand corner. There you are. Hey, what's going on, sir? Hi, how are you? How's everyone? Very well. Yeah, I'm actually in transit.

And actually, I heard my name, and I'm like, oh, okay. Here we go. Yeah. Yeah. Just tuned in to seeing what the topic is about. I just briefly read it so it may be long and right quickly.

What are your thoughts? What kind of medicine are you practicing? Internal medicine. So same as me. And what are your thoughts about where we're at these days? Any sort of sweeping impressions about where are you? It's another important part. I'm in the Detroit, Michigan area. Interesting.

Yeah. So on the heels of COVID, we got a chance, of course, to see so much that we need. Especially, I work directly in the core of the city. So, of course, we see a whole lot of different issues and matters that need to be addressed for sure in the health department or just in medicine at NARM. So if I'm hearing you accurately, it's I don't know about words in your mouth, but I'm going to see if I'm hearing you right. Which is there's a

lot of shit we have to deal with in medicine that's going on in Texas. And COVID needs to be put in context. Would that be about accurate? Yeah. This is what I keep saying. I, when I do these streams, I hold up a textbook of pediatric and text infectious diseases and infectious

diseases. They're about, you know, 1700 pages. And I just say, this is, this is the context. There's all these things going on in our country and around the world that we

are having to contend with. Some of what we're doing a good job with somewhat a terrible job with, but to focus only on one illness is going to harm people. It just is. Yeah, you're right. Absolutely. So, well, thank you for doing that work in the inner cities. How's the homeless situation going? Uh, yeah, that's a problem as well, especially in Detroit area i mean you don't just so much see it on the streets in mass but we do know that it does exist you know people have you know learn how to adapt yeah but the jump on the shuttle yes i'm gonna have to

so i'm actually just getting off work so So I'm going to have to mute again. All right. So I'll let you, I appreciate you coming here. You're welcome anytime. Your observations are welcome. Any of my peers observations or either to challenge me or to, to clarify or give your own point of view,

whatever it might be. You are always welcome. Andrea, thank you for being here and thank you for the work. More importantly, uh, Sean, what's up there? Dr. for the work more importantly. Uh, Sean, what's up there?

Dr. Drew. Yes, sir. Uh, my name is Sean. Uh, I have a wife that suffers from a borderline personality and,

um, we've been together for about seven years. We have a set of twins with that are three years old. I come from a trauma past. I've been listening to you since I was little. She comes from a light trauma past, so it's hard for me to understand where she got it from. Well, borderline is associated with trauma,

but it's not as though that's... Yeah, not always. And so tell us, how does it manifest with her? How are you experiencing? All traditional flags as well as she's physically abusive in her raging in her episodes um and of course after seven years i'll have reactive abuse to her because i both my my mother and my stepmother were alcoholics and drug addicts and they both physically abused as well okay um so it became that much easier for me to accept it and to hide it yeah uh i i i don't know like i'm pretty devastated because i wanted to not bring my kids into chaos and that's what

i ended up doing isn't it crazy how we just repeat repeat repeat it's really incredible it's the extraordinary thing about the human being even when we're clear we're not repeating it we end up repeating it though it's usually by but i will tell you this that you whatever you repeat in in this generation tends to be a lesser version tends to be a lesser version of whatever you were subjected to so that's the good news. And you live in a time now when there's lots of great treatments available. Is it truth about remission?

Can she go through? She started to do therapy. She started to work on things. She's accepted some stuff that she's done. Not all. She's in Niles for some stuff. She still blames me for a lot. And she plays victim on almost everything.

Well, of course. What kind of therapy is she getting? do you know what kind of treatment uh well she she did she tried dialectic before what happened i don't i don't i mean i don't it sorry it went away for a bit which i guess people would say either she was hiding it or she was in remission but after she gave birth to the twins it has layered up well of course of course the stress and i understand why i get i understand the hormones my father's my father's a surgeon but he's very robotic and he's a vascular surgeon so he doesn't show emotion with me and he only is logics with me So his advice to me is to get the hell out and take the kids.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's rough. Well, DBT does work. It's the main treatment that works in this. Is she not using drugs? Is she? Borderlands could use a lot of drugs. She was.

I would say she was abusing cannabis a bit. But she's also on a mood stabilizer and before we were married she was not borderline diagnosed she was I guess misdiagnosed with bipolar mm-hmm which is common some people believe that there's sort of a continuum bipolar and borderline so all right i've read all the books i've done sorry sorry that's good that's all great uh and you know you could argue that having someone you know that you could rely on for support would be important as well and sort of help strategize what you're doing with her but the most important thing was for her to get dbt

because the borderline disorder never goes away, but the features can be diminished markedly. I always think about DBT as helping the borderline keep other people's mind in mind as they have their episodes. In other words, some of them blackout and redout or whatnot. She calls it blackout. All right. But if you can, if she can learn to manage what's happening as she goes into it and keep the fact that your brain continues to have contents and, you know, and that her behavior will affect other people and her children, you can usually motivate by saying, Hey, this

is not going to work well for the kids too. So, uh, but, but maybe a DBT group would be a better thing for her? You thought about that? I have thought about it. I'm separated, so we are text communicating only, and we do hands-off with the kids with somebody there. But she gets triggered very easily at this point. Everything's very raw.

Okay. Within a month, it's very fresh i mean years of me hiding it but i can't i woke up a month ago all right well good so you're very early and really taking care of this properly and uh give yourself a little breathing room be patient with her get her if she doesn't have proper care things are not going to get better so get the proper care but i i get the sense that dbt group might be very helpful for her and no no special reason other than that she'd had previous dpt it didn't didn't sustain maybe a group would be something that she can also when you have twins the time for it is intense and so yeah it's rough susan you're you're you're sort of feeling compassionately towards her yeah yeah

borderlands rough borderland disorder is you know a lot of hostility and rage and fears of abandonment and yet they will abandon as a way of preventing abandonment and there can be lots of um nasty things in their in their moments you know when things happen okay this is a man maniac of all trades, I think here. Maniac. That sounds like you. Maniac of all trades. Thank you for that. There's a little lag.

Sorry, guys. It just takes a few before they can hear. You have to unmute yourself, though. Flush the toilet. There he is. Hey, there. You're on. Hello, Dr. Mommy.oha uh so i'm actually aloha yes hey hitler i'm actually about some stuff that's relevant to your mom's house okay i know

nadav and also obviously hopefully bert at some point are both kind of on this weight loss journey. So it seems? Hopefully, yes. I personally, my unhealthiest was 230 pounds and around 25% body fat. But at the end of my journey, I was 220 pounds and around 7% body fat. Oh, wow. Good for you. Did you take something? Sounds like steroids.

Did you do something no man it was a long process it was like a year or a year and eventually after i went down in weight the weight kind of started to come back up but i know that as muscle you're talking about exactly yes and i know that a lot of the time people are doing cardiovascular training and strength training simultaneously so if they're only looking at the scale as a measure of progress i just don't think that it's a good accurate representation and i've been having this thought for a while when i watch you on dr drew after dark talking to the booth boys yeah but it was just something that i wanted your opinion on a thousand a thousand percent but but everybody is somewhat different with these things.

Some people are highly affected by carbohydrates. Some people are highly affected by total calories. Some people can't build muscle no matter what they do. Some people, they can lose fat while they build muscle. I am no expert in this, and there are a lot of trainers and things that really feel that they kind of know what they're doing. But what was, from the standpoint of your biology, what would you say worked for you? I think focusing on my macronutrients and my caloric intake. Okay.

Like how I was fighting up my ability to work intake. So eating consciously with a focus on calories how about the workout what did you do working out um i was just kind of religious about it i have fallen off because i think the reason i was mostly dedicated was because i had a very dedicated gym partner while i was in college and after yeah was this just, it was just weight training, weight training? Yeah. Primarily, uh, as well as like, uh, Explosive training, I guess I would call it athleticism stuff like, um, box jumps or any kind of, uh, utility training.

Okay. And so, but you would do it all. You were sort of working on the slow Twitch muscle. You would do it all, you know, you'd take breaks in between everything. You do it intensively and then stop right heavy weights that kind of thing uh yeah i mean oftentimes i would dedicate myself to b-type muscles where i would be doing more low weight high repetition to build endurance but that was something that i chose for me personally like you said we're all different yeah i don't think there's a magic to this. I mean, there are some people that can lose weight just doing resistance, heavy resistance training.

Some people will gain weight when they start doing that, not just because they're building muscle, because it stimulates their appetite so much. Oh, yeah. I mean, consider the appetite thing. Yeah. Oh, my God. When I'm doing heavy weights, it and uh it becomes kind of an issue but it's all it is complicated you kind of have to navigate your way through it depending on what

your particular biology is i i don't like the idea that you know it's one thing for all the one thing that having said this i don't like having one thing for everybody limiting carbohydrates and starches does seem to be generally a good thing we overdo that in this country for sure um susan what are you laughing at there you're uh seeming caller said heil hitler yes a petty letterman um okay he said hey hitler is what he said he didn't say heil hitler he might have said hi hitler also so that is a reference to a video uh at your mom's house which is a she's like. She's like what? Or Patty. Yeah, so Patty, P-A-T-T-Y.

So we watched these crazy videos at your mom's house. And one of the classic ones was this girl, Psychotic, who did a video blog where she believed she was talking to Hitler every day. And she'd open her video log with, Hi Hitler, every day. And that and calling each other Jeans and Mommy mommy and then there was a guy named fed smoker That was a very serious meth addict who died of meth who in one of his acute Manic paranoid states was yelling at a security guard and telling him to touch his camera through the fence

So now touch my camera Yeah, our word a there was a lot of greetings at your mom's house that are that are taken off these videos that are sort of classic from your mom's house world so that's what that is all about i know it's confusing when somebody says hey hitler hitler is the one that really upsets everybody like why are they calling you hitler well rumble's like comedians today they've been going off for like 15 minutes i I've been laughing at their stuff. Oh, good. We love having them there. Anything else, Susan? We have more questions coming in tomorrow.

I'm going to kind of wrap this up now. We've been on for about 80 minutes or so. We have? Yeah. Am I wrong? One hour. Am I wrong, Caleb? 67.

Yes, yeah. You've been going a little bit over an hour right now. Yeah. Okay. Look, okay. Look at you. And I know we're going to do it tomorrow as well, so I want to leave some of these questions for tomorrow. People will be back again.

Thanks to everybody who joined us on Rumble and Facebook and YouTube. If anybody has any questions on YouTube, if you want to send us over a super chat, we can take a couple more questions before we go. We've been ignoring the you know the questions on there on the on the restream yeah okay let anybody follow up who has anything so if you see them you got to collect them off there for me if they move by too fast yeah and then um like us wherever you are and uh share if you care thank you kate they like me on timcast i enjoyed working with those guys i ended up going to the casino with them afterwards did you know this there's no that

sounds 10 minutes away there's hollywood casino or i don't want to hookers and blow everybody yeah i i we played craps and blackjack for an hour and then i went home you don't have to be in hell jep you can uh jah, we were talking about that earlier. You can go to a casino in Virginia. Yeah, it was, it's beautiful territory, it is. So I want to close with some. With Tim. What?

With Tim. That's pretty funny. Patty is also a joker. Pandemic is over, time for everybody to spread monkeypox. Yeah, so yeah yeah that was also disgusting the way we weren't allowed to talk about the risk population who we could have protected if we educated and protected and talked specifically about it yeah remember the the murder hornets that we that was the clickbait for remember they had murder hornets how many people died from those

zero uh remember that well this is what andre was talking about a few minutes ago he was frustration that we feel when we're dealing with all these very serious medical illnesses that are just being under attended to because of one that is you know one is the one we have to solely focus on they weren't murder they were killer hornets but the poor woman that we were talking to earlier today that had the breast cancer there's many illnesses she has to protect herself from many covet is one of them but let's go back to where we started here with the president making the comment about the the epidemic being the pandemic being over i think he's exactly right i think what he said was matter of fact the cuff it was honest and it was correct now the, the question remains, though, he said essentially, look, no masks.

Everyone's fine. Everyone seems good. It's all milder. You know, we're not, not hospitals aren't filled up. People are dying. Elderly people are dying of respiratory viruses. COVID being one of them. That's just the way it is.

That's what happens. We still need to explain the excess deaths in many countries. We still need to explain the myocarditis and understand the incidence of that relative to other risks of covet itself we need to know much like that caller that called in a half an hour ago with severe long covet from the vaccines we need to know what that incidence is so we can help people make risk reward decisions when it comes to whether or not they should take the vaccine we are in a much better place we just are in a much better place new york is sort of back to its old self though we notice there's not a lot of young people here which is kind of interesting i don't know where they've all gone um but it is time for us to to if we're calm enough to have reasonable conversations that

now again we should be talking about what makes life meaningful and what makes life good and how we can optimize that and how we can sort of rather than sheltering in place. And as Duncan, what was Duncan's name again? Duncan, the gentleman I interviewed. Oh, Clinton Duncan. Clinton Duncan said they took away from, he said something very prophetic. Clinton Duncan or Duncan Clifton. Clifton Duncan. clifton duncan or duncan clifton clifton clifton duncan uh he they took away from us everything that makes life meaning it was such a prophetic statement he is absolutely right and when you take away what makes life meaningful

from humans it is destructive profoundly destructive and on top of that they crush the world to me and they may cause famines in certain areas. So there's so much that we need to be attending to rather than this one respiratory thing. Yes, protect yourself. Yes, you need to do whatever, you know, do what you need to do, but it needs to be in context now. We need to contextualize it with a life rather than living in cowardice and hiding in place, sheltering in place,

which was never a good idea. We need to be living an engaged life where we are productive, where we're helping build economies, build people's meaning in their lives, helping them lead good lives. Not just be happy, but lead a good life. Happiness has been sort of overemphasized in this country. I've said it many times that we tend to think of happiness as hedonic euphoria or hedonic tone we call that when in fact it should be more eudonic eudonic happiness eudonic flourishing eudaimonic flourishing rather and that is achieved by doing what's right doing a leading a good life making a difference these kinds of things and and we should be worried about

thinking about contributing and not about hiding it really it's time it's time and that we there's a certain amount of risk to living i walk out on the street here it's a risk trust me every time i walk into the street i nearly get hit there's a risk to living and if you don't want to take that risk you don't want to live it's like they used to say if you don't want to die you don't want to live death is part of life and we need to sort of be realistic about that too but more importantly we need to manage our risk uh let me see if there's anything you guys are talking about here that i want to comment on before we go don't be lazy what is that all about long covid uh-huh uh the queen was gone a long time what are you guys talking about yes live from new york it is dr drew i asked dr drew here they're entertaining

each other they're trying to out troll each other it's pretty funny um caleb they're asking us to post the name of the vaccine injury group that the young man was talking about which i think is a very good idea can you do that uh yes after the episode it'll it'll be up on the website and if you're listening to the podcast you can go to drdrew.com slash 9192022. So that's 9192022. Someone was saying something about a Super Chat and I didn't see it. Susan, did you see the Super Chat?

You're my keeper of the Super Chats. Yes, I did put a Super Chat up on screen. Our resident troll, Silar, our resident troll, he was taking something that you said. I don't know if it's a female or male. I'm not actually sure. I put it up on screen, you know, with the exact amount of context that Silar put with your quote.

I used the same level of context for Silar's quote. Hmm, I wonder what I was talking about that was just earlier whenever you you in the middle of a sentence you were saying something about okay and it said something about following orders and you know in the early days of the pandemic well sylar is putting a bunch of sylar just put a bunch of laughing faces up so i wonder if he or she thinks it's a joke attention i i wonder what I was talking about. There are times when I am just following orders. There are times.

I can't think of what that would be in relation to what we've been talking about today. That's your phone? You want to go get it? No. It was like a two-second part of something that you had said earlier in the show that Silar then took like the beginning of the sentence and use that as a quote. I see. So we were just following orders. Do you remember what I was talking about?

The early days of the pandemic when nobody knew what was going on and everyone was just trying to keep people safe. Everyone was just doing what they were told until you got better information. Some people just kept on going on the bad information, but you updated your priors based on the new information. So it's when you said you were just following orders, it just had to do with that brief moment in time. I probably said we were just following orders.

Right, yeah, exactly. We or I. So people were following orders, right, at a time when things were unclear. Siler said that was actual quote from like 20 minutes ago. Yeah, yeah, I hear that. I could see where i might have said that i i but you know what i meant was is the people while we tried to figure things out what else was i talking about doesn't make sense to me right in context uh ted says dr timothy telling hughes and hepatitis c research what

about the hep c research uh what do you know about it i i did hepatitis C research. What about the hep C research? What do you know about it? I did hepatitis C research long ago. I published articles about ribavirin when we had that as our only antiviral. Now we can clear most of the genotypic types of hepatitis C. It's now a curable illness. Okay.

All right, I'm going to have to wrap this thing up. We thank you all for being here. We'll be back again tomorrow at the same time. I mean, I'd like to take super chats at the end because we kind of, we watch rumble because it's very trolly over there. And then we kind of, you know, the, the restream kind of zooms by, zooms by, we see some of the questions, but people have been sending super chats, Susan. I just, they haven't been presenting questions. I've been putting them on the screen though, to highlight them. Yeah.

So if you, if you give us a super chat and you wanted to say, hi, I, you know, I can see your nose hairs, Dr. Drew,

or, or, you know, I want to know about this or that you'll, you'll get it. You'll get attention. So, um,

Colin Robinson, we will be up with Dr. Victory on Wednesday and she does, uh, we, she straightens me out a little bit. I think, I think that's a reasonable statement. attention so um colin robinson we will be up with dr victory on wednesday and she does uh we she straightens me out a little bit i think i think that's a reasonable statement we saw it on the timcast i thought it was a great idea it's a good way for people in the super chats who don't want to call in or you know um edward dowd on wednesday and jay badacharya who i believe is will be the poster child for the excesses of the pandemic, the really most disturbing parts of the pandemic,

Jay Bhattacharya represents to me. Because he was so right and so reasonable and was so maltreated. It's just disgusting. Also, one more thing. When we do have a guest on, which we will this week, a couple of days, the super chats at the end will be good because then more people can get some questions out at the end we can just zoom through them okay you know anything that we didn't see

because you don't really pay that much attention to the restream during the time i try but it's hard and then what time are we doing it tomorrow tomorrow is early so it's noon it's gonna be noon pacific i think right caleb yes that's correct. Noon Pacific tomorrow. You'll be taking calls again. So it's a little bit, even an hour earlier than today's. Right. So noon Pacific, 3 Pacific. New time zone for people that can't watch at 6 p.m. Eastern. Let me say it again.

Noon Pacific, 3 p.m. Pacific. Eastern. 3 p.m. Eastern. Noon Pacific, 3 p.m. Eastern. Because I'm thinking about Wednesday, which will be 6 Eastern, 3 Pacific.m. Eastern. Noon Pacific, 3 p.m. Eastern. Because I'm thinking about Wednesday, which will be 6 Eastern, 3 Pacific. Correct. We'll be back tomorrow night all the time. Same thing with Thursday, 6 Eastern, 3.

Because you're going to be on Kennedy tonight, and you're going to be on Gutfeld tomorrow night. So we have to get in and out earlier. We'll be talking a little 2098 with Kennedy there, who's been my friend for many, many years, decades. Yeah. All right. Susan, anything else from your camp?

Anything you'd like to say? No? Susan? Okay. She's not listening to me at all now. I'm just not paying attention. Now I just don't even exist. No, my mic was off.

Your mic was off, but it took me a few rounds. I'm kind of jet lagged. I got up really early today and i need a nap so gisela and maxwell interview while you go work some more all right well thank you all much everybody for being here appreciate the questions appreciate the participation and uh the streams and the rumbles and even all the trolling we we're watching you we appreciate it thank you for being here we'll see you tomorrow at three eastern noon pacific mark ask me anything tomorrow yes yep correct see you then ask dr drew is produced by caleb nation and susan pinsky

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