Ask Dr. Drew - Caitlyn Jenner on the CA Recall Election of Gov. Gavin Newsom - Ask Dr. Drew - Episode 46

Episode Date: September 8, 2021

The California Gubernatorial Recall Election of Gov. Gavin Newsom is on September 14, 2021. Caitlyn Jenner joins Ask Dr. Drew to discuss reducing regulations, streamlining immigration, new advancement...s in generation IV nuclear power, Larry Elder, and her vision for the state's future. Campaign Bio: Caitlyn Jenner is running for California governor to restore the glimmer of the Golden State that shined so bright when she first moved to the state nearly 50 years ago. She has been a compassionate disrupter throughout her life, from representing the United States and winning a gold medal at the Olympics to helping advance the movement for equality. In addition to being an advocate for fairness and equality for all people, but she has also built successful businesses in the exercise, aviation, and entertainment industries. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation ( https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/FirstLadyOfLove). THE SHOW: For over 30 years, Dr. Drew Pinsky has taken calls from all corners of the globe, answering thousands of questions from teens and young adults. To millions, he is a beacon of truth, integrity, fairness, and common sense. Now, after decades of hosting Loveline and multiple hit TV shows – including Celebrity Rehab, Teen Mom OG, Lifechangers, and more – Dr. Drew is opening his phone lines to the world by streaming LIVE from his home studio in California. On Ask Dr. Drew, no question is too extreme or embarrassing because the Dr. has heard it all. Don’t hold in your deepest, darkest questions any longer. Ask Dr. Drew and get real answers today. This show is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. All information exchanged during participation in this program, including interactions with DrDrew.com and any affiliated websites, are intended for educational and/or entertainment purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:05 We have a candidate for the gubernatorial race here in California. The one and only Caleb Jenner. Our laws as it pertains to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for f***'s sake.
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Starting point is 00:04:07 It's actually my pleasure to have you here and I appreciate you coming into the studio and being willing to do this. This is an extraordinary opportunity. Honestly, I think it always works out better. Here's some sugar. Oh, perfect. Oh, I got, you know.
Starting point is 00:04:19 It's the athlete. The athlete in her needs sugar. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, a little sugar then. Not much, just a little bit. You know, a little sweet too. Understood. You can handle it.
Starting point is 00:04:30 No, we were just talking a second ago of all the different avenues. You've been in this business a long time. So have I. And it's amazing. You know, when I started in the television business, three networks. That was it. You know, ABC, NBC, and CBS. Yeah. And when you won the Olympics, was that an NBC thing still back in those days?
Starting point is 00:04:50 ABC. It was Runaway, Jim McKay. It was kind of the last of the ABC era, which I really think built the games over the years. They did a wonderful job. And then in 80, which we wound up boycotting, NBC got the games. And then we boycotted. And they've sort of hung on to it ever since. Yeah. And they've held on to it ever since. The back to the three network thing, the younger folks, you know, the day of ESPN and all this, you know.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I think ESPN was 79. Is that right? Well, it certainly wasn't, you know, continuous sports. I think HBO started 78. That is a dog's head you're seeing there. Yes, the dogs are here. Caitlin is a dog person. I know.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And my dogs immediately picked that up and like all over her. Well, she smelled my dogs. Yes. But I have this deep romance for the ABC sports, Rune Arledge, and the wild wild wide world of sports yeah the thrill of victory sports and the agony of defeat yes of that poor guy oh you don't know what the hell we're talking about yeah but it was amazing it was good we're mature enough to remember those mature enough indeed yes yeah and no but abc really built the games rune arledge was the first one to do you know the up close and person-and-personals.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And I remember when they came to my house three or four months before the games and they were doing the up-close-and-personal, I'm thinking, my God, I made it. An NABC crew here is for up-close-and-personal. And they changed the game from just being a face out there to actually following the person so you would want to root for them. And you knew something about it. If you know something about the person, then you root for.
Starting point is 00:06:29 That's right. And I would argue Rue Nardler has changed television. Yeah. Not just sports. ABC News. Then he just changed everything. He changed. He was a great innovator in television.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Not the way TV has changed now, where it goes for, you know, any twist, any low hanging fruit, anything can get to sort of create an emotional reaction. Then it was really more of a expansive exploration. I mean, in a way. Yeah. I mean, that was sort of even the Watergate era was sort of him, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:07:01 Oh, yeah. Well, I think Watergate changed everything. Yeah. You know, the media took down a president. Crazy. And that was kind of the beginning of the media kind of taking over. But what's weird to me is that since then, media has become the elite and they still talk about speaking truth to power, but they're the power now. They are the power.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Because there are so many news outlets now there's the internet i mean the list goes on everybody's competing for the eyeballs yeah for the absolute most sensational thing that they can do yeah so because they're competing against you know 30 40 50 100 different places where people can get their news so it becomes more sensational somebody's somebody on the there's a there's a chat stream i'm watching from all the different outlets we're on while we're talking and somebody mentioned the ski crash was epic this guy this guy sort of the agony of defeat is a guy oh my god poor guy it was a guy going down a giant ski jump in like switzerland or something yeah and he falls and just does a cartwheel before the end or the jump and goes
Starting point is 00:08:11 off the end oh he was yeah the poor guy he became very famous actually and i remember i forget what his name was but they they did an interview with him and he was actually very and he was fine yeah he was fine he got through it all right but he became very famous nobody else remembers who won the gold for a ski jump that year but they remember that guy that guy yeah wasn't it they had another guy like ernie the eagle was a ski jumper or something from the uk and he became very famous he wasn't any good but he became he was you know like because he'd have something the eagle yeah and a crazy name. So you decided to run for governor. Tell us what led to that decision.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Excited for the fact that I don't know if you feel like me, which is like, I'm very moderate. I would say you're right of me. I'm not a Republican, but I support everyone's effort to change this state because my God, somebody's got to do something. That's how I feel. Actually, I heard your name come up as possibly running. It was discussed for a minute. And really the reason I- I think it was 30 seconds. Well, actually, when you got in, I thought, that's fine. Let's let Caitlin do it. I'm cool with that. But I have prostate cancer. I needed
Starting point is 00:09:20 to take some radiation and I didn't know- Oh, really? It's not as big a deal as it sounds, but I didn't know if it was going to knock me out and how much it was going to put me out I didn't want to have to be sidelined and right oh right so so I just like honestly to be honest with you it's a lot more difficult than you think I bet I've seen you having to be out there with all the energy it requires and the it's not an easy job yeah but it's worth it. I've always been a passionate person. I like helping people. And so it's worth it. Basically, I want to restore hope in California.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I mean, that's the bottom line. I think Gavin Newsom has destroyed hope. He's destroyed the state. He's done a horrible job. 18,000 companies have left California and they're not leaving because of the beaches of Yosemite, the Sierra Nevadas. You're leaving for one reason and one reason only, and that is we're overtaxed, overregulated, and you just can't do business here any longer. And, you know, I've always been a fighter.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I've always worked hard. And that comes from, really, my parents. My father, my grandfather was in the dead pile in World War I. And somebody heard a moan. And they go, oh, my God, there's one alive still in here. And they pulled him out. He went on to live a good life. Do you know where that was? Was it in France? I have no idea. You idea just heard the story yeah actually it's a great story it is a great story don't make it don't don't go no no i don't
Starting point is 00:10:51 want to i don't want to know too many details start this off going with two people yeah somewhere during world war one then my father which i can tell you a little bit more about yes uh when he was 19 years old world war ii is breaking out and he wanted to join. And so he joined the Army Fifth Ranger Battalion, first boats on Omaha Beach, 364 guys in his division and 60 came back alive. And if my father could see what was happening to this country, particularly, he died here. He moved out to California. And to see what's happening, he would just be absolutely devastated. You know, and I thought if my dad
Starting point is 00:11:31 can storm the beaches of, you know, Omaha Beach, I can storm the beaches of Malibu. I think it's a reasonable thing. Yeah, it could be a little scary, but no, I thought I need to stand up. And I want to be an example to people. There's so many people right now in this country who don't like what's going on. I don't like what's going on. I don't like how we're losing this country, this state. We've been losing the state for a lot longer than we've been losing the country and to stand up i don't care who you are what your background is um you know if you don't like what's happening um in your school system uh you know you see these school board meetings and they're just i mean these people are so passionate run for school board go out there don't just complain of power don't just complain actually run yeah yeah run for city council run for school board go out there don't just complain of power don't just complain actually
Starting point is 00:12:26 run yeah yeah run for city council run for mayor in your local town get in a position where you can push these i would say the left out and put in some what i call common sense thinking pragmatist yes and it's just there's no common sense. I almost want a new party. I want a pragmatism party. There you go. I just want a party of pragmatism. That's it. Yeah. Susan, was it, are you in there?
Starting point is 00:12:51 Yeah. Was it Naomi Wolf that said the exact same thing? She said, we've got to help people learn how to be involved in politics as a representative. Yes, I think it was. And to be honest with you, yeah, for me, I think coming from the outside is a good thing. To be honest with you, I'm not responsible for the highest taxes in the country. Okay. I'm not responsible for the highest gas taxes.
Starting point is 00:13:18 The most regulated, we're the most regulated state. I don't have, I have nothing. I'm not responsible for any of that stuff. I come in with a couple of things. One, I come in with political power. Because being the position that I'm in, like when we were raising money, we started small dollars. I got money from every state in the union.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Because of my platform, I can expose a lot of people and expose what's happening in Sacramento and with this. Talk a little more about that. I know you can't do it all right now, but be more, well, more clandestine. I think political power is very important leverage is very important um getting in there in the first because obviously you win the recall you get in you've got really about a year before you actually have to go through a normal, would consider a normal election. When you go into the bluest of blue states, a legislature that is absolutely dominated by the left, by Democrats, it's going to be hard
Starting point is 00:14:41 to make changes, really hard to make changes. But political power, they understand. And if you can expose them to not only California, but you expose them on a national basis, that is what I consider political power. So by pushing up against them, by pushing against them hard, you'll expose what they're doing. Absolutely. Absolutely expose the hypocrisy that is going on i mean the list is honestly it also seems like special interests just have complete sway over the state government uh it is all about special interests the state is run by public sector union would you ever consider this is something when i was at your thing the other night i wanted to ask and i thought it was a little too provocative I'll ask it now, which is, would you ever consider proposing legislation to outlaw public employee unions?
Starting point is 00:15:32 I'm not sure they should be able to unionize them if you are a public servant. You right now, the public sector unions run the state. Yeah, I'm not sure there should be public unions. They certainly should be able to contribute politically they should not right yes the teachers union right now obviously is controlling education in this state i do not want that um is it going to be hard to change that absolutely ridiculous art because they've got a death grip on on the education system but if you don't try you're not going to get anywhere. I want the money. We spend, the state spends about $80 billion a year
Starting point is 00:16:09 plus local stuff. It's about $100 billion a year business in California education. Wow. It's absolutely huge. I would want the money to follow the child, follow the parents, not follow the unions. So you're okay with unions. You just don't want them in control?
Starting point is 00:16:28 In control, yeah. I'm okay with unions. I'm not sure there should be public employee unions, but I'm okay with them as long as they don't have the ability to donate and own these politicians. Well, no, they kick money back. They get all the money and then they
Starting point is 00:16:44 kick it back to the politicians and that's you know gavin newsom that's exactly what he does and when you say you could expose them can you be a little bit more tell us a little more what you want to expose the hypocrisy that's going on not only just in the unions and the teachers union but the hypocrisy that's going on all and in everything in in this state um you ever hear of paga paga i don't think so private attorney general act okay okay passed in 2000 uh what was it 2004 just when gray davis, he was recalled. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Arnold came in two days before he was gone. He signed PAGA into legislation, signed that deal. It is for the employees to protect them. Sponsored by the unions. All right. You know, you got a problem there. Right. It's to make sure that they get their coffee breaks at the right time and they get their time off.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And it's to protect the employee. That's why in California they try to protect the employee. But the business owner, unfortunately, he's the one that's going to lose. Take a simple example um uh about five years ago uh there was paga litigation against uber they were doing it because they yes they didn't know that was what that came from yes i know about yes and so most of the large corporations what they'll do is they'll just instead of being in litigation for the next four or five years, it's cheaper. What do you guys want? They paid Uber, paid him seven and a half million dollars.
Starting point is 00:18:33 OK, to go away, basically out of that seven and a half million dollars. The state got three points, I think three.7 million. The lawyers got 2.6 million. The company, because of course this is for the workers, the money that's left over has to be equally distributed between all Uber employees. So they hired a company for $750,000 just to process the checks. And the Uber employee, remember this company for $750,000 just to process the checks. And the Uber employee, remember this is for the employee, the Uber employee gets $1.08.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Oh my God. That's crazy. Yeah. A quarter of a latte. This is the thing about this company. A quarter of a latte at Starbucks. Not even, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:20 You can't even buy a coffee. You can't park. Yeah. You can't even park your car. That's the hypocrisy that's been going on for years. And those things have to stop. Obviously, what I call the slip and fall lawyers, they actually go into employers and find somebody in there so they can. Because it's all about, you know, the lawyers and the lawyers
Starting point is 00:19:45 making money and they use the employees that goes on all the time in the state. Of course. Yeah. It's, it's interesting when you watch, uh, uh, Corolli is always telling me, he goes, you know, when I used to be home from school, uh, during the day here in Southern California, you would see back in the seventies, you would see, uh, advertisements for how to form your own business, how to become a top driver, how to go engage in the world. Now would see uh advertisements for how to form your own business how to become a top driver how to go engage in the world now it's are you had an accident call
Starting point is 00:20:10 1-888-lawyer that's exactly everything every ad is that during day i was talking with this guy who's like an expert on pocket and he brings me to the meeting the um uh the labor laws from 1957. 47 pages of laws. And he brings today 3,000 pages. Of course, of course. With 89 little print. And by the way, you're not suggesting that employees should have less protection.
Starting point is 00:20:43 You're just saying that attorneys shouldn't have the opportunity to exploit. Absolutely. It's yes. That's what I thought. And honestly, that happens throughout Sacramento. Yes, it does. And just about everything that you go up against. Those things have to stop.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Those things you have to expose really what's going on. I mean, I would do everything to get rid of Paca. I am looking at your guys' questions here on the restream to see if there's anything specific you'd like me to ask, Caitlin. Oh, I'm excited. What do you guys want? Yeah, that's what I'm looking at. I'm trying to see what the heck. Got a good one in there?
Starting point is 00:21:21 Not yet. I just, you guys, it moves by quickly. So please make them kind of. I do. Make them short so i can read them what about the housing market in california is that you is that you asking that assist the low inventory and high price problems okay that was a question okay go ahead i know you've got some thoughts on that low inventory high prices how can we solve that how can we solve that it's a tough one um you know we do have the highest real estate prices in the country medium home price went to 800 it was a 700 now went to 800 000 i was at a conference at usc usc has a urban development
Starting point is 00:22:00 right what do they call it department there right and four governors were there gray davis schwarzenegger uh everybody but jerry brown was there like three or four governors there and and uh oh crap my brain this morning the the uh ben carson was there and oh really okay all these people were there and they got they got up they said yeah we've created this problem here in california with over regulationulation and we've created the problem. Therefore, we can undo the problem. And that's not always the case. But go ahead. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Being out of CEQA, the California Environmental Quality Act, which everybody knows about. Yeah. I started in 1970 with Ronald Reagan. And honestly, CEQA started as just a reporting agency on the environment. Over the last 50 years, that thing has been held hostage. It has grown from, I mean, it is massive. You cannot build in California. We're down over 3 million housing units in the state right now. And it's almost impossible. On a personal note, I tried to put four walls up on the back of my house.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And after two and a half years, yeah. Two and a half- Well, it's because you're near the water. Yeah. Oh my God. Forget it. Two years of trying to get the permits and then one permit because it had taken so long. That's just on a small basis.
Starting point is 00:23:24 But you just, it's almost impossible to build because the environmentalists have taken over uh if there is i remember i wanted to move some land in the back and the guy goes here's he shows me a picture of this plant and he says go out there before they get there i mean i'm area where there's thousands of open land all around me, thousands of acres of open land. Check and make sure that that plant is not over there. I mean, that's how bad it's gotten. And those worms or squirrels or anything. Yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 00:23:54 And because of that, housing prices continue. Well, so I'm going to argue that's the reason we have a forestry problem here, too. I remember. So, so my biggest concern about California is that the government has begun to come, has begun to blame the population for its shortfalls. So they're blaming us. That's what they do. So they're blaming us for living in fire region, blaming us for using too much electricity, blaming us for drinking water. Oh my God. They're blaming us. We're going to start rationing. Yeah. So let's start with forestry. That's where they, that's blaming us for drinking water oh my god you know they're blaming us yeah we're gonna start rationing yeah so let's start with forestry that's where they that's an easy one for me because i used to look up in these hills here and i would see it crisscrossed with fire breaks and
Starting point is 00:24:33 the you'd see the tractors up there all all the time yeah and but they just there was a migration of a squirrel or something got in the way yes and they closed the whole thing down now it's just overgrown brush if those things burn it's going to burn all the way. Yes. And they closed the whole thing down. Now it's just overgrown brush. If those things burn, it's going to burn all the way down to this house. What are you going to do with forestry manager? Which by the way, let me just for the record,
Starting point is 00:24:51 this is one of my things. We have a mandate for electric cars in this state and electric cars will not undo the amount of carbon put out this year from forest fires. Forget the next 10 years. One forest fire. Enough carbon to undo
Starting point is 00:25:09 a year of everybody driving an electric vehicle. Everybody. So what are they doing? So, for the last I was for two days just this last week, a couple days ago I went up to the fires in Northern California
Starting point is 00:25:24 and talked to the Forest Service. Talked to them about forest management. Was Gavin Newsom there with you? Was he there talking to the Forest Service? No, he does not. He does not. No, it's the residents. The residents have to move out
Starting point is 00:25:41 of their houses. He's got an excuse for everything. Talk to him about forest management and basically ask him, is global warming the cause for all of this? Because that's what you hear on the media. And he said, no, it's just an abundance of fuel right now. Right. Because it has not been managed at all. Right there. managed managed at all right um there it is so difficult to do uh fires um you know to clear the underbrush the circumstances get right they can clear the underbrush and not burn it fire break
Starting point is 00:26:14 and it's actually very good for the forest yes i'm aware of that what the forest don't like the trees are sick massive fire to yes and then it's called scorch earth they scorch the earth so bad it kills i mean just kills the forest yeah so all of the environmentalists are really to blame for these massive fires that we're dealing with i was up when i was up there jeez i should have my phone i would your pictures get my little phone uh here we Yeah, we'll get it here in a second. This is very casual. Yeah, yeah. It's like we're at your house just talking. It's almost like that's what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:26:51 It's almost like that. Wait a second. I'm going to show this. Greenville, California. Here she comes. Yeah, there we go. Greenville. Well, where's your little thing?
Starting point is 00:27:08 You're going to need our Wi-Fi. And this town was absolutely the entire town burnt to the ground. Yeah, I saw it. I saw it on the news. 55.
Starting point is 00:27:21 In fact, it scared me because I thought they were talking about South Carolina. I'm like, Greenville,olina is burning down what the hell yeah and yeah here we go all right this is greenville oh my god so i'm can i can we yeah can we zoom in on this in any way i'm getting the other camera is that you there we go you can sort of see yeah it's perfect just talk about scorched earth the whole town is gone looks like a yeah not one building like a nuclear bomb went on yeah now we get your car that was the police station right there yeah i mean it is unbelievable the damage that happened there. Actually, what I'm trying to do right now is there is a charity there that's been there for a while. It's to try to raise funds for Greenville. I mean, part of the, you know, with the governorship. This is a town that's actually been destroyed is there is there a website or something people can go to uh i am working on that and you're gonna send it
Starting point is 00:28:30 yes well i either my website or actually when i'm leaving here i'm talking with a lady who has a charitable organization there okay and i'm trying to figure out is is it a good charity to send money to or what i understand over the next few days, I'll get a better idea. And what is your website? What's that? Your website. Well, mine is Caitlyn Jenner. Just one word.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Yeah. Yeah. The Caitlyn Jenner foundation, the Caitlyn Jenner foundation. Yes. That's my website. Okay. And, um, but I do that. That's actually right now, a scholarship program for trans youth.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And, uh, I, I did a lot of stuff on my foundation with help from mac we raised about two and a half million dollars and we're able to give it away to great organizations over the last few years um and then i just had issues with a lot of people that we were giving money to and so so I thought, you know what? Sophia and I, we decided let's make, let's worry about the next generation of trans people that need help. I want trans doctors, lawyers, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:37 I want them to be educated. So we decided let's change what we're doing right now and let's work on the next generation. Actually, we donated and helped out with a girl who's getting her Ph.D. and she couldn't finish it up. We helped her out. And then there was another one. Actually, we saw online of a young boy, trans boy in Austin, Texas. um in austin texas and when trump uh banned trans people from the military it's a whole nother deal he had lost his rltc scholarship and didn't have the money and we heard about him we called him up anyway we took care of him and so right now because of covid
Starting point is 00:30:20 obviously it you know nobody's doing a lot of charity raising right now, but we want to help the next generation and make it a scholarship program. How do we, I've told you before, it's weird to me the way the trans community embraces and rejects you. Am I getting that about right? Yeah, that is, I would have to say yes. That is right. You're embraced and rejected simultaneously. And how come the ones that reject you, if someone rejects you, how come those people aren't transphobic? Well, yes. I would have to say the same thing. I'm a little confused.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Because of social media, and if they kind of come after me, they get a lot of clicks. Okay? And if they kind of come after me, they get a lot of clicks. Okay. One in particular was on, you know, just destroying me. And I mean, she gets on the news, local news, because this essentially I'm picking an event that I'm there at. And what's her for what reason? Her beef is that I'm a Republican and I supported Donald Trump. And so I didn't really. Trump was our I'm a Republican and I supported Donald Trump. Honestly, I didn't really. Trump was our, I'm a Republican, and Trump was our candidate.
Starting point is 00:31:29 And, of course, I'm going to, you know, if it was Ted Cruz, I would have supported him. So you're a party person. Yeah, that's my party. I believe in conservative economic values, less taxes, less regulations, a pro-business environment. Government is not going to get us out of trouble. Government is not going to get us out of trouble. The people are going to get us out of trouble.
Starting point is 00:31:48 The businesses that are built. Let's put a finer point on that, though. You're an inclusive person, right? Does government help with that piece, with helping reduce? I've always explained myself as a Republican. I've always said that you're right. I'm an inclusive Republican. But is government the one that has to solve that? Is that legislative? How does that work're right. I'm an inclusive Republican. But is government the one
Starting point is 00:32:06 that has to solve that? Is that legislative? How does that work? Here's the problem with the media. Everybody's got to be, especially right now, everybody's got to be in a box. Which I hate because I'm all over the place. I'm personally all over the place. Right, right. Which I love. You've got to be in the box. If you're a Republican,
Starting point is 00:32:22 you've got to believe this, you've got to believe that and everything. I'm not in the box. If you're a Republican, you got to believe this. You got to believe that and everything. I'm not in that box at all. Well, that's why I'm surprised. I'm surprised you're a party person, but I guess there's a pragmatic piece. Well, you got to honestly. Yeah. You got to pick a team, I guess, if you're going to. You got it.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Yeah. You got to be on a team that can win. They can help you. Yeah. Okay. That can help you to win. Yeah. And so that's why
Starting point is 00:32:45 i've always been on that side just because of the i mean the economy and what they do there but the reason i'm outside the box and i think that's this is what the republican party needs to do i call myself and on social issues uh i'm inclusive to all people. I don't care. Yeah, blue, green, whatever. Yeah, you don't care anything. Yeah, your sexual orientation, whatever it is that you may have. But my question, how do you protect people from other injustices? You know, being inclusive and protecting people.
Starting point is 00:33:21 You know what I mean? I think we need to protect being inclusive. Protect being inclusive protecting inclusive yes protect that yeah and i want the republican party to come to me and certainly the democrats have kind of hijacked this issue over many many years yes okay everybody thinks that the democrats are the the ones that are inclusive to everybody and and to be honest with, they've destroyed a lot of lives. I mean, they just they haven't been there. Mostly a power grabs all the time using the box.
Starting point is 00:33:54 You got to be in this box. They're using issues of inclusion for their own. Yes, yes. And you're and you're saying as somebody who is a representative of a certain community, you feel deeply committed emotionally to this. I do. As far as the trans issue, I do feel very committed to it. But I think the most important thing I can do is just be out there. Just show as an example that you can grow.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I, you know, when you suffer from gender dysphoria, it's not like it just, you know, happened one day. Right, right. Okay. This has been with you since I was that big. Yeah. You know, but I grew up in the 50s and 60s. There wasn't even a name for it. I was going to say, did you even understand what was going on? No, you don't.
Starting point is 00:34:43 You just say, keep your mouth shut. Yeah, it's just my thing yeah it's just like uh okay and so honestly just i got into sports right right right was that a compensation for that you think i know it was i had to prove myself but but were you proving yourself to protect yourself from this secret or you're a great athlete i mean how much of it was just you're nobody nobody knows you have the issue it's not like you got a big wart yeah yeah and everybody looks oh my god what is that i have to prove myself because of my warts but uh when i in fifth grade first time uh in gym class uh like any other day i was also a dyslexic kid so i wasn't a really good student perceptionallyceptionally, words coming up off a piece of paper was never easy for me. And so I was in the slower classes and you don't
Starting point is 00:35:31 have any confidence in yourself, low self-esteem. I went to gym class one day. They were out in the back parking lot at the school in junior high. And the coach said, you're going to start here, run around the chairs, back and i'm gonna time you in you know what i'm gonna time every kid in school and i went out there and ran as hard as i could with number one came back boom had the fastest time in the whole school it was like the only time i ever succeeded at anything and i'm thinking what is this thing called sports how you're like 12 or something then yeah yeah i was around there. I was in junior high. Yeah. Were you a big kid then?
Starting point is 00:36:08 No. Not especially. Not especially big. I was maybe a little taller. I was 6'2". Actually, I'm 6'1". Now this is great. I can go an inch higher on the heel, but that's a whole nother story. But anyway, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:19 But that kind of got me started in that. And I could go on the football field, take a guy, great student student, great, you know, reader and, you know, cleanest. Beat the crap out of him. Oh, so you played football too, did you? Oh, I played football, basketball, ran track, competitively water skied all summer long. So from that moment, you just, the doors opened. I just, the doors opened to sports. How interesting. And not that I thought about it through my career.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Yeah. But once your career's all over with and this, you look back and you go, my gosh, why did I do that? Why did I spend six, eight hours a day training every day, year after year after year and, you know, push myself so hard for all these years. And I thought to myself, you know what? If I would have been average back in 12 years old, like any other kid, you know, decent student, doing okay, this and that. When sports came around, I wouldn't have needed it. You wouldn't have to prove anything. See, I needed sports more than the next person.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Yes. And to be honest with you, my greatest asset in competing, because I look at athlete in two ways, the athletic body, the physical aspect of sport and the athletic mind. Yes. I had a much stronger athletic mind than I did physical skills.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And I had an athletic mind that would push me harder in training, really do the right things in training. I would get to the competition and I would always be able to come through if I had to come through. I would always have that ability. And I relied on that. Is this something operating now in this campaign? It is because I'm a strong person and I want to do the right things. Put it this way. When I moved to San Jose in 1973, the reason I moved there is because I wanted to train with the greatest athletes in the world. They were all living in San Jose. A lot of them were my friends.
Starting point is 00:38:24 And I learned from the best shot putters in the world, the best discos. We're all in the world and we're all living in san jose a lot of them were my friends and i learned from the best shop putters in the world the best discus throws we're all in the same town and now uh i want to go to sacramento uh i'm gonna i'm gonna race for solutions you know we have to have solutions for this state i I want to surround myself just like I did in San Jose with the best people, the greatest minds, obviously I do not. I mean, you have to build a team around you, economists,
Starting point is 00:38:54 people about regulations. You know, we have 21.2 million words of regulations on you and your business. I mean, if you read 300 words a minute, worked a 40 hour work week, it would take you almost three years to read all the regulations.
Starting point is 00:39:09 You need a team to be able to just focus in on regulations. And your campaign manager said that you're starting to attract these people too. I am. Oh yeah, no, I talk to a lot of people. And let me tell you, I talked to some really, really great people. And so, but now when I first thought
Starting point is 00:39:26 about, you know, doing this, I said, oh my God, I got to go up against the teachers union? Yeah. Are you kidding me? You know, that's kind of scary deal. Yeah. And then I kind of sat back and I said, wait a second, back in the day, you know, I went up against the Soviet union. Right. Okay. With the greatest, you know, athletic machine in the world at that time. And I'll be a little lonesome in San Jose and surrounded myself with the right people went up against them and won. Right. You know, what I want to do now is I want to go to Sacramento and take on the teachers union. But this time we win for your kids because they're destroying the education process in this state right now. And I want the kids to be able to win.
Starting point is 00:40:08 You know, it's interesting. I can really relate to your story about athletics being so important for me, actually being coming up. Physician played that function. It was really important to me when I finally found it and committed to it and was engaged with it. It was life and death.
Starting point is 00:40:24 You know, to me, it was, it was life and death you know to me it was it was about but right but you know my survival depends i don't know if you remember the movie uh city slicker with billy crystal i do when you know he's trying to find himself yes in new yorker and says i'm gonna go on a cattle drive he goes on the cattle drive and this is the way he's going to find himself and he meets curly played by jack palance and he and there's two of them are sitting around the campfire yeah you know out on the range and billy crystal s the wise cowboy what's the secret to life and he kind of sits back and he goes one thing and then kind of goes on with the
Starting point is 00:41:08 conversation he doesn't answer it one thing well then he died or something and so billy crystal's sitting there and like everybody who's watching well you know what's the one thing and finally a minute or so later you know billy crystal goes well what's the one thing? And he goes, that's for you to find out. I love that statement because like you said, just a second ago, that was the thing. It is me. I found my one thing and that was called sports. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:40 You know, you find what you, what you, you found what you do and the reason you want to get up in the morning and, you know, go to work. Because you love what you're doing. That's your one thing. And everybody needs to. And sometimes it's not even an area you think it may be. Well, that's another piece that people are missing today. You have to be willing to become, and this would be pertinent for you.
Starting point is 00:42:01 You have to be willing to become and be whatever it is. It is whatever it is. Because I'm sure you had a time in your life when you limited it, right? You had the secret and you limited it. That's what I used to say back in the old days when I was training and I was making no money. I mean, I was living on $10,000 a year.
Starting point is 00:42:17 This is in San Jose. Yeah, in San Jose. I'm living in $145 a month apartment, but I'd get up every day and I was excited about that day. I just couldn't wait to get out there to train, you know? And I always thought I never want to lose that in my life. I want to always wake up in the morning. You thought that then?
Starting point is 00:42:37 I thought that back then. Really? That's interesting. You were aware of it. I always wanted to have that in my life. That's kind of cool. And. Most young people don't think that far ahead. thing you were aware of it always wanted to have that in my life that's kind of cool and um most young people don't think that far ahead i always want i don't know what it's going to be in the
Starting point is 00:42:51 future because i retired i was 26 and i had a long ways and by the way for those of you that are are younger you don't know how much this what a big deal this was, your accomplishments at the time. It was a big deal for the country. You represented us. I was the first person ever to put the flag up at the finish line. Yeah, it was a big deal. I remember. It was our bicentennial year. By the way, it was the, I would argue it was very similar to the ice hockey thing against the Russians.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Oh, yeah, in 80. Yeah, with the ice hockey. It was the previous version of that. Oh, my God, that was so big. I watched it live. Oh, did you watch it live? I did. I was in New England against the Russians. Oh yeah, in 80. Yeah, with the ice hockey. It was the previous version of that. Oh my God, that was so big. I watched it live. Oh, did you watch it live? I did. I was in New England at the time. I could not believe it. But you were that before that. Yeah. And you were one
Starting point is 00:43:33 person. You know, it was crazy. It was our bicentennial year. I remember that. Patriotism was extraordinarily high. We just celebrated 200 years and everybody was watching you know like today if like the games especially this games they were getting you know like 8 12 whatever it is shares they were not getting good numbers at all for an olympics you know we got
Starting point is 00:43:57 back then 20 share or something crazy like that something insane between 70 and 75 share everybody watched that's why it was the last people forget that there was a possibility there was a time when all the americans would sit down either at a radio before television or at a television and we'd all watch the same games yeah and it was crazy it was the last olympics when there was only three networks. Yeah, yeah. And everything started and you started fractionalizing the audience. Patriotism, it was at its height. Yeah. It was our bicentennial year there, even though it was in Canada, but it's right across the river from the U.S. Just flags everywhere.
Starting point is 00:44:38 It was like a great moment. I remember like it was yesterday. Let's take a little break. Of course, I'm watching the restream. My guest, Caitlyn Jenner. We's take a little break. Of course, I'm watching the restream. My guest, Caitlyn Jenner. We're going to talk more. The kind of things I want to get into, for those of you to hang on here, and I know you've been watching the stream out of the corner of my eye, so I see you guys. They want to hear about vaccine mandates, electricity insecurity, water insecurity. I want
Starting point is 00:45:00 to hear about your favorite president. We'll get to all that stuff, but first, we're going to take a little break. Be right back. Here with my daughter, Paulina, to share an exciting new project. Over the years, we've talked to a ton of young people about what they really want to know about relationships. It's difficult to know who you are and what you want, especially as a teenager. And not everyone has access to an expert in their house like I did. Of course, it wasn't like I was always that receptive to that advice. Right.
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Starting point is 00:46:49 If you go back on YouTube now and see some of his speeches, the way he used humor. Self-deprecating. Self-deprecating. Yeah. Just, I mean, he brought the country back in so many ways. People forget how bad things were. He did so many things. But honestly, you sit there and watch it today, and it's like your grandfather talking to you who has great wisdom, soft spoken.
Starting point is 00:47:13 We're missing that in politics today. I don't know if somebody like that could survive today. For me, it's Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt. And you quoted Theodore Roosevelt as you sat down here. I would love you to share that quote again. Even though, by the way, Theodore was a maniac. That's not a mince word. He had bipolar disorder.
Starting point is 00:47:31 He was a narcissist. But he was a brilliant, brilliant leader. Let's go ahead. The credit in life goes not to the critic who stands on the sideline and points out where the strong stumble, but rather the real credit in life goes to the person who's actually in the arena, whose face is marred by sweat and dust, who knows great enthusiasm and great devotion and learns to spend himself at a worthy cause. If he wins, he knows the thrill of great victory. If he loses, at least loses while daring greatly so that his place in life will never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I love that i feel like that's like that's um a statement about your life it is it is a statement about your life yeah yeah because it's a reason you that stayed with you because i feel like it's a to you know well you know what you've got to get even a metaphor It's a description of your life. And running for governor. Yeah, win or lose. I want to be an example. I can handle winning, obviously. But if it doesn't work out, I'm fine. I think I can make a difference in the world. And this has been...
Starting point is 00:48:39 Well, I always thought you're... Here's the thing the other day. I was thinking about it. We've never had a woman governor in this state, let alone. Let alone me. I get that. Okay. I get that.
Starting point is 00:49:07 But the other day, Stephen Chung, my PR guy, we're in the car driving actually up in the fires. And he says, oh, look at this. You're number two right now behind Elder. And I was thinking to myself, look at how far we've come as a society with this issue. I remember in the 80s thinking, oh my gosh, I'm going to do this because I don't want to be like an old chick. I didn't want to do this in my later on in my life. And so, but then I had kids to raise.
Starting point is 00:49:34 You were already planning. Oh my God. You read it. I went through, I should send you my book. You would love my book. Okay. Done. Secrets of my life. I'll get it over to you. And it's secrets with S okay i love it if we're gonna be friends i gotta know you gotta know the whole story yeah the 80s i struggled six years i stayed in a house and i really didn't even come out because i didn't feel like i fit in anywhere oh my but then just couldn't do it but to see today that honestly as far as I just wake up in the morning and be myself all day, all that stuff's behind me. And how I've been accepted, I think, shows so much about society and where we're at.
Starting point is 00:50:15 We are a diverse society. OK, I mean, we've just walked down the street and look, we are a diverse society. We'd be accepting. That's why I always call myself an inclusive Republicans, because I'm inclusive to all people. And I was just thinking, boy, have we come a long way in acceptance? Yeah. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Yeah. It's to me. I mean, really, all people want to know is what you can do to help us. What can you do to help us here in California? We're struggling. Please. Yeah. What are we going to do electricity how am i going to get power okay first of all taxes obviously as governor uh we have to get a competitive tax rate i'm not saying we're going to be the lowest tax state in the nation but you know what we have the greatest
Starting point is 00:50:59 resources we've got the greatest state people are willing californians are willing to pay a little bit more yeah but not and totally unfair compared to the rest of the country give us something for our tax dollars please i want the the california taxpayer to get a good return on their investment okay in this state and they're not even close don't even talk we are right now Gavin Newsom's ATM card, you know, ATM machine. We have to do our best. Now, obviously, the legislator and the people, there's a lot of things you got to do to get it lower. But we have to have somebody in power that's actually going to do that. Regulations. Vetoing new taxes?
Starting point is 00:51:40 Pardon? Vetoing new taxes? If I got in, I would. Don't even come to my desk with a new tax. Okay. First of all, the one thing, the thing you have is you have veto power. That's probably the most powerful thing you have in the state of California. And yes, any tax, even think about new taxes. They've had exit taxes. They're talking about this. I mean, they're still talking about more taxation. Don't even come to me with that regulation. Same thing. Put a bipartisan committee together and go over the regulations in this state. As I was saying earlier, CEQA has been there since 1970.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Okay. Find out which ones are working, which ones are obsolete and are not working. Get rid of them. I would put a sunset clause in that every regulation, once it goes in every 10 years, it has to be reviewed. Because right now they don't review anything. They just leave it on the books. And any new regulation that you come to me with three regulations have to leave we have to lower the amount of regulations the basically the red tape in this you're not saying yeah you're saying not zero regulation you're saying if you're going to add you got to
Starting point is 00:52:59 subtract where you can't some regulations i think are good are good of course okay they're they're good and we want to keep the good ones yeah but not the regulations that are on the books that are absolutely killing business let me propose a electricity and water solution all in one okay i've been looking at fourth generation nuclear and i'm telling you anybody that's sane and a scientist looks at that and you could desalinate and you create electricity all at the same time. Okay. Water and electricity. I am all in.
Starting point is 00:53:27 I am all in. All forms of. Do you know Michael Schallenberger? Michael Schallenberger. Do you know who he is? No. I'm going to put you in touch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Put me in touch with him. Very bright environment guy. Actually, I was putting together a meeting here on fusion. I got a friend of mine that's been working on fusion for a long, long time since the 80s. Yeah, I know it's coming. Yeah. And it's coming to see where that is, because I think eventually that will be kind of the next generation. Sure. But I have no problem with nuclear energy, especially today. The technology is so much better. So much. It's just ridiculous that we're not looking into it. It's just insane.
Starting point is 00:54:12 They can take all the waste, what used to be taken across the country in train cars, now it can be put in a thimble. Literally, that's how much waste they could put in a thimble for the year. It's like, come on, everybody. Let's get this going. Let's wake up. Water you can desalinate. Desalinate you. There's a lot of things you can do.
Starting point is 00:54:25 We have not have a water project in California since 1964, the Oroville Dam. We need to have more economic and environmentally sound dams. Gavin just throws money at his friends. Yeah. He just put together the largest budget in California history, $262 billion budget. I saw it. It's like $100 billion more than it's ever been. I mean, it's just ridiculous numbers, okay? Well, the Fed gave him $50 billion. Where's all that money going?
Starting point is 00:55:00 Yeah. Okay, it's all going to special interest. It's all going to- Well, we got a $91 billion train to nowhere. We got to keep that going. And we got to keep that going. Yeah, absolutely. I've all going to special interest. It's all going to, we got a $91 billion train to nowhere. We got to keep that going. We got to keep that going. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Oh, I've been all over that one, but there's nothing really. It's really soft on water, electricity, nothing about water. Okay. I know we have water insecurity here.
Starting point is 00:55:21 It's crazy. And how can we, I get it. If let's say I get in as governor and we start a water project. Yeah. I'll be dead before it's over with. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:30 We got to get going. 10, 20 years. What are we going to do about the next generation? Are we just going to forget about them? I know. We, in the old days in California, they took water really seriously. Look at the aqueduct, the California aqueduct, all these projects to bring water to Southern California so you can populate that area. And yeah, you can populate that area.
Starting point is 00:55:51 And then they have just forgotten about it over the years. Since 1964, we haven't had a new project. They can blame us for using the water. Yeah, well, environmentalists, you know, the Delta smelt, the little fishy that's up in the Delta. You know, my God, it needs this fresh water. So we're draining all this water out of this, you know, into the Delta. So the fish makes it this and that while the farmers, you know, are just dying down here. Okay, we need water projects.
Starting point is 00:56:20 We need above ground storage, meaning more dams. We need below ground because a lot of the farmers get their water from below the ground and they can put, make these areas where the water actually soaks down into the ground and, you know, fills it up. I was on good old YouTube. You've heard about it. Yeah. We're there right now. We're there right now we're there right now that's amazing and there was a project uh in turkey that they took this massive polyurethane or some plastic pipe 11 and a half feet in diameter the thing is huge yeah and what they did is they they took it from uh across the bay underneath the water okay biggest problem with trying to bring more water from Northern California and Oregon, okay, is that you have to take over all this land, build pipes, this and that.
Starting point is 00:57:14 What they do, they would put a drain for when the rivers up north, they get overflows. Instead of it just going out to sea. It hits this drain. So if it goes above, the water goes down into it. Listen. And they sink the pipe. You have a company here. Go get Elon Musk to do the boring company and give you the pipe.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Yeah. And they take it out to sea. And then they weight it, bring it down. So it's like 20, 30 feet off the bottom. It's not even on the bottom. It's just anchored to the bottom. They run it 310 miles down to San Francisco Bay. They bring it under the bay, under the water. Nobody sees it.
Starting point is 00:57:57 All the way in, and they can fill it up. Instead of all the water that is wasted every year going out to sea. They're starting to make moves in that direction down here, too. But it's very slow and very nominal. We have to take care of it. I mean, obviously, for the economy, farming is huge. And people around the country don't understand how different northern, central and southern California is. Central California is a main issue.
Starting point is 00:58:24 They need you, Sophia. That's good. Oh oh oh no i'm sorry uh wait a second i'll call you right back i'm on the air goodbye that's her uh campaign manager yeah we have five minutes i'm rushing you through this because you know no this is good um yeah but we we have to do something and we have to start now when it comes to water immigration immigration um i firmly believe we have to do something and we have to start now when it comes to water. Immigration. Immigration. I firmly believe we have to, number one, close the border. In California only? I was at, I was a week and a half ago. At the border.
Starting point is 00:58:58 I was at the border. Meeting with Border Patrol. The greatest group of good Americans. You could be. I mean, these are the salt of the earth guys. They're just absolutely great. And they love this country. And the first thing they said when we started doing the interview, they said, I just want to thank you. He goes, Gavin Newsom's never been here.
Starting point is 00:59:22 The border. Crazy. Gavin Newsom, three years. You know, three years. See the doggy. He knows you're getting ready to leave. He's going to see you out. Three years.
Starting point is 00:59:32 He wants the last step in my shoes. Yeah. But Gavin Newsom's never been to the southern border. I mean, here he was, mayor of San Francisco. Three times more people died of drug overdoses in San Francisco during this whole COVID thing than died of COVID. Right. Okay. And what is he doing?
Starting point is 00:59:54 He's aligning people across the border. There was, when I went down there. To that point, there was a hole in the border. Do we take on the cartels in some fashion? I don't know if California does that by their loan. I would do, and I told the Border Patrol, I'll do whatever you guys need. They're zeroing in on, I'll move the,
Starting point is 01:00:13 you want to try that again? Zero in on Rex's head. Yeah. Pop his little head up. Put your nose up. There it is. Anyway, what I would do, we got to secure the border.
Starting point is 01:00:26 And to be honest with you, the hole right behind us, when we were there, we saw a coyote on the other side on a four tracker. Two minutes later, five guys start walking through the hole. Okay. Because they saw a border patrol over there and they were basically giving themselves up. So they walk right up to the border patrol. Five guys from brazil they only spoke portuguese and they sit down and they're in oh they just have to walk through and just walk through and then give themselves up to border patrol and they're in
Starting point is 01:00:55 this country we need to secure our southern border um a couple of months ago, five months ago now, the Supreme Court had a ruling, 9-0, that the TAPS program, the temporary protected status, okay, that these people are coming in under, if you are coming in under that, you cannot get citizenship. The only way you can get citizenship is to leave the country and come in legally. I am 100% for legal immigration into this country and would support that. But on the other hand, we have so many people that have come to this country years ago. What do we do with that? What do we do?
Starting point is 01:01:38 Well, first of all, because our immigration system coming into this state is so difficult. Yes. We have to streamline that. Make that easier. So make it easier to become citizens. And if you get arrested in this state and you're here illegally, you're gone.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Good. So tougher, tougher on crime, tougher on legal, easier on legitimate. The Spanish community is a vital part of our Mexican, whatever you want to say. Spanish speaking. Make this. Okay. They are a vital part of our Mexican, whatever you want to say. Spanish speaking. Okay. They are a vital part of our economy. Yep. They're a vital part of our culture
Starting point is 01:02:12 and they're great people. And we need to streamline the process so the good ones can stay here and get legal status here. And we just have to take care of that. And on the way out, your opponent, Larry Elders. This is our final.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Oh boy, Larry's getting a lot of problems right now. You know, when he first came in. Did you guys have a debate? Actually, neither of us went to the, I did not go to the debate because I was in Northern California with the firefighters. Honestly, I thought I'd rather be talking to them right now.
Starting point is 01:02:41 First of all, I'm not running against any of the other candidates. I'm running against Gavin Newsom and Gavin Newsom wouldn't debate us. We tried and he wouldn't debate us. So I was up in Northern California when we did that. But Larry has some major issues when he first came in. Honestly, I didn't. I knew he was. I've been on a show. I've done speaking engagements with him. I knew him as a very right-wing conservative talk show host, which he is, but I never knew the person who is Larry Elder. And so when he first came in, I would ask kind of the reporters, I say, does anybody know who Larry Elder is? I know him as a conservative talk show host.
Starting point is 01:03:26 But what about him as a person? There's more to being governor than just the economy. And nobody can answer that. I even asked, does anybody know if he's even married? You know, his date? I know nothing about him. And so, you know, the reporter would go um you know well what do you think and i go well i don't i'm not thinking anything here i said isn't that your job to find
Starting point is 01:03:52 out well we're finding out more and more about larry and uh if those things that they're saying about larry right now uh are even close to being true um we cannot have him as governor even the whole thing about uh when you apply to be on the ballot uh there is a lots of forms oh my god it's like that including you have to give up the last five years of your tax returns which for me was a box like that and uh he didn't do that. And then he got it. And then so they kept him off the ballot and then he went back in court and fought it, got back on. But then he had a he eventually was kind of forced into a financial disclosure. And I heard on the radio today or on the news this morning that he didn't put everything in
Starting point is 01:04:43 on the financial disclosure i mean to be honest with you the way he's treated women um pretty scary stuff yeah there's a lot more to larry elder than just being a talk show host and he's underwater in fact i'm giving a speech on thursday or friday um for a republican group down in orange county and they dropped uh their backing of Larry Elder and they asked if I would come down. So I said, of course I would. Is Kevin Kiley the other one that started running a pretty good campaign?
Starting point is 01:05:12 Yeah. You're running against him too? Do you have any thoughts? No, not really. Honestly, I'm running against myself. And you're running against Newsom. Listen, I just love that you're here to shake things up and try to help us. We need help here in this state.
Starting point is 01:05:28 We need big time help. Somebody's got to do something. It's much like the Theodore Roosevelt quote you gave us. You're willing to get your hands dirty and get in there. And I just thank you and applaud you. And I'm just so grateful that you're doing this. And as I told you, when I was- Actually, I wish I was running against you, but that's a whole other deal.
Starting point is 01:05:44 You'd check it out on me. We'd go we'd go debate man we'd go debate dr drew where's your background where's your backbone but but the um the uh but one of the reasons i did i didn't whoa somebody put a huge quote here i cannot read all that but what i don't know what that was um but they like you as well at the end of it um uh when i did drop out i was like or i did not proceed i was like caitlin's got it caitlin let her do this this is great she will shake it up she will oh she will help us and i'm just so grateful because they don't know how to handle me they don't know how to handle you i agree and they don't know who you are yeah that's those two things it's been fun getting for people and i think people need i'm hoping my viewers here get
Starting point is 01:06:30 a deeper sense of who you are and you draw your own conclusions everybody i hope some of you are from california so you can make an informed decision here i also hope it will motivate you to um any of you to let's let's do the Let's do the recall. If nothing else. We've got to get rid of Gavin Newsom, number one. It doesn't make any difference. He wants to double down on what he's doing and anyone who lives here can't understand how that's possible. How can you double down on a total
Starting point is 01:06:55 catastrophe? I don't have anything against him personally. It's just how can you keep doing this? This is terrible. This is the only way that he thinks to survive. Oh, my God. Last thing, I just thought of it as you were talking about, Larry, is you've got a famous family.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Are they going to help out? Are they going to? I told my kids right from the beginning, you know what? Politics is a dirty business. Stay out of it. And I said, guys, stay out of it. I don't want one tweet. Don't get involved.
Starting point is 01:07:24 No Instagram post. I can actually sit at the dinner table and reach a half a billion people. I know. That's what I'm saying. Why not use that? I told the kids, no, this is politics. So stay out of it. Fair enough. Kimberly obviously is very involved with the criminal justice reform. And we have certainly talked about that. And I certainly appreciate her position. And I would love to,
Starting point is 01:07:51 we get in to be governor, I would love to really get down and... We do need criminal justice reform. Oh man, do we. We didn't even talk about homelessness. But I'll tell you, we didn't even get into homelessness. I haven't had a chance to even download yet. they really want you so god yeah we will get into homeless another time i've gone past my time homeless issue yeah i've got a lot if you become governor
Starting point is 01:08:13 you are homeless issue we gotta stop let me download i'll download on your hat i know exactly what to do with it it's not a big deal simple it it just you just need a few more tools and we got to really treat the illnesses that are ill on the street and treat sick people like every other country on earth does that's all Caitlyn Jenner everybody we appreciate you all
Starting point is 01:08:32 your attentiveness here I'm so glad she came by to say hi to us I know hi to everybody it is a privilege and I wish you the best in this campaign all right thank you it's a good luck we're out there fighting
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