Ask Dr. Drew - Cheap Drug Has 97 Percent Plague Survival Rate, So Why Are Militaries Developing 21 Plague Vaccines? – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 675

Episode Date: October 14, 2026

A researcher at an anti-plague institute in Russia died after breaking a test tube containing live bacteria. As headlines stoke alarm over a possible aerosolized pneumonic plague outbreak, epidemiolog...ist Nicolas Hulscher reveals that governments and military biodefense programs – including the USA’s Department of Defense – have been quietly funding more than 21 experimental plague vaccines spanning mRNA, self-amplifying RNA, and viral-vector platforms. “Why were governments and military biodefense programs already investing so heavily in plague vaccines before the current plague hysteria erupted?” asks Hulscher. The U.S. DOD alone has committed over $44 million into clinical trials for an aerosolized plague candidate, alongside programs in the UK, Israel, Russia, and China. But as Hulscher points out, pneumonic plague is a bacterial infection, not a respiratory virus like COVID-19. “I would not take an experimental plague vaccine. I’d rather take my chances with doxycycline and its documented 97% survival rate. We are not living in the Middle Ages,” says Hulscher. Dr. Kelly Victory, MD is Chief of Emergency & Disaster Medicine at The Wellness Company, a residency-trained and boarded trauma and emergency specialist with over 30 years of clinical experience. She is an expert in disaster preparedness and mass-casualty medical managemens. Follow at https://x.com/DrKellyVictory Nicolas Hulscher, MPH is an epidemiologist and administrator for the McCullough Foundation. A Michigan native, he holds a B.S. in Pre-Health Professional Studies from Oakland University’s Honors College and an MPH in epidemiology from the University of Michigan School of Public Health. Follow at https://x.com/NicHulscher 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Welcome, gentle people. Thank you for joining me. I'm Dr. Kelly Victory filling in for Dr. Drew. Drew and Susan are out this week, traveling to do some other things work-wise. And so I am filling in all week and very excited about it. In fact, I may not give it up. I may just stay. I think, but what's the added, you know, possession is nine-tenths the law? Well, I got the seat now and I may just not give it up. I'm actually. really looking for today's show. This is going to be a great show. I've got so much material to cover that I'm not sure how we're going to cram it all in, but somehow we will. I'm fired up because I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone. Every day I see something else in the news with regard to COVID vaccines, pandemics, plagues, all this stuff. And I feel like it just doesn't make sense. So I want to talk about a lot of it. And we are going to spend a fair amount of today talking about vaccines, not just COVID vaccines, but vaccines in general, as well as the ongoing harms that have been done by them, this absolute obsession with the MRNA platform
Starting point is 00:01:21 and what that's all about. And I'm going to be joined today by one of truly my favorite people, Nick Holshir, who works with me at the wellness company as well as the McCullough Foundation. He's just a remarkable person, and I'll give him a more proper introduction when we come back. He's an epidemiologist of some repute and has really done an amazing job with recent publications and bringing to light some of the data around the atrocities that have happened. And I also, full disclosure, think, you know, I spent decades telling people that I was not an anti-vaxer, that I was pro-science, pro-safety, and not anti-vaccine. And I fully believe that I'm more vaccinated than many people because of what I've done for a living
Starting point is 00:02:11 in the areas of the world in which I've chosen to travel. That said, I think really, I'm sitting here today, what is it, the 13th of October, 26, I might actually be an anti-vaxxer now. I think it is fair to say that I might mean so much evidence of harm, of fraud, of corruption, of dishonesty in the vaccine industry and from our own government, CDC, FDA, and others who really have not clearly, in my mind, done the diligence, done the studies, done the work to make sure that what is being rolled out to the public under the name of a vaccine is actually, in fact, safe or effective or necessary. So we're going to talk a lot about that as well. So after the brief intro, I'll bring Nick right in
Starting point is 00:03:11 and we'll get to it. I've got him for the entire show today. So we will cover everything and maybe even take questions or comments if time allows. So our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for a second.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Lovelin all the time. Educate adolescents and to provide. prevent and to treat. You have trouble. You can't stop and you want to help stop it. I can help.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. All right. As I said, I've got Nick Holscher with me today and I'm going to bring him in right off the bat. Nick is an epidemiologist. He hails from Michigan where he earned his undergraduate degree in pre-professional studies. He subsequently got a master's in public health with a specialty in epidemiology. And he has been an absolute titan in this fight to expose the truth, specifically about COVID, the pandemic, and more broadly, the vaccine industry. He has been the author of and participant in preparing many, many manuscripts. Well, you know, two dozen at least manuscripts.
Starting point is 00:04:56 He does brilliant, brilliant work on this. Honestly, for somebody his age, I find it somewhat stunning. He has a command of the literature that is unrivaled, and I'm really excited to have him joining me here today. Let's bring Nick on and start talking about, hey, Nick. Hey, how's it going? Thanks for having me. It's great, and I'm super excited to have you for the whole time here. I've had you multiple times in the past, but we generally only get, you know, 30 or 45 minutes.
Starting point is 00:05:31 So I'm super happy that you could do the whole show today. I want to start off right away by talking about the most recent thing, this issue of the plague, what we know coming out of Russia. And I'll tee it up sort of, I'm guessing that everybody knows what I'm talking about. But, you know, it's been a couple weeks now since we got a report, and that's all it is at this point. have had very little verification of the actual details of what happened here. But what we are told is that a woman, a 28-year-old lab worker from a anti-plague lab, quote unquote, in northern Russia up in Siberia, died, was admitted to the hospital and subsequently died with a fulminant double pneumonia and what had some, there was some concern that this
Starting point is 00:06:23 was a result of pneumonic plague. And to be clear again, pneumonic plague is a disease that is caused by the bacterium ursinia pestis. Most people are familiar with the boobonic plague that happened during the 13th and 14th centuries, which is that same bacterium, ursinia pestis, when somebody receives a flea bite from a flea that has been infected with ursinia. Neumonic plague is the same bacterium, but it is not from a flea bite. It's when that bacterium gets into the individual's lungs and can cause a very rapid, very forminate, and quite lethal pneumonia. So that's what we know. There's been no, again, verification of this from the Russians. I don't exactly trust what comes out of Russia anymore than I trust what comes out of China, but that's what we know so far.
Starting point is 00:07:19 So give us a little more color on the story. And then the most important piece, I think the most interesting piece that people don't likely know about, is way before this anyone ever heard of this area of Siberia or this woman dying from potential plague, apparently others have been working on vaccines for plague, not just one or two, but a whole lot of them. So fill us in on what you know. Yeah. So lots going on here. Basically, the moral of the story with the plague situation is nobody actually knows what happened, you know, because we have Russia claiming there was no plague. There was no infection from a lab and they squashed it out. But that obviously didn't match the media reports of locking down five hospitals.
Starting point is 00:08:16 and quarantining about 200 individuals. But regardless, it appears that this situation has died out. Whatever it was, it appears likely that it's not going to go anywhere. You know, this particular woman died of what Russia's public health authorities are claiming is what's called pneumonia of unknown ideology. So, you know, it's possible she could have just, which would be very rare for a young 28-year-old to die of pneumonia, but it is possible. It has been documented before from a community acquired pneumonia infection. But, you know, regardless, if this was a pneumonic plague, you know, that is easily treatable with prompt treatment with antibiotics, particularly doxycycline, a random.
Starting point is 00:09:16 trial documented a 97% survival rate when treated early. And so, you know, that now was that plague infection modified to have antibiotic resistance? Well, that's possible. But again, even if it was, that wouldn't spread very far from Siberia. There's only about 200 flights, I believe, per year coming from Siberia to the United States. So, yeah, I'm not concerned. You know, I guess the worst part about this situation is, you know, what other laboratories, you know, are leaking pathogens potentially? And there's, well, there's actually 3,600 biological, high containment biological laboratories across the globe, half of which are actually in the United States. And there's actually been 300 confirmed laboratory acquired infections since 2001.
Starting point is 00:10:13 So this is actually quite common. I think one of the things that people are questioning is there's this, here's this lab in Siberia that is purportedly working on cures for the plague or vaccines for the plague, but it begs the question, are the Russians in fact engaging in gain of function research, much like the Chinese did with COVID? And it's happening, as you point out, in many, many laboratories, including in this country where they're taking a pathogen, whether it's a bacterium, a virus, or fungus, and manipulating it in a laboratory to make it more transmissible, more resistant to treatment, more capable of producing, you know, severe illness, whatever. You know, is that what was happening? And we just don't
Starting point is 00:11:01 know because of the lack of information. It's my understanding that Russia has not even complied with the WHO's requests for information. They have not turned over the data that the WHO is requesting about this. So I'm with you. I think we don't really know what happened. We don't know why this woman died. If it was Yersinia pestis, why was she not treated with antibiotics or the appropriate antibiotics or is it that, you know, this is somehow resistant? I don't know. If I were a 28-year-old lab worker in Siberia who actually did drop a test tube, I'm not sure I'd run to my supervisor and fess up. So, you know, I don't know what her outcome would have been if she'd actually admitted what
Starting point is 00:11:48 happened. So there's just too many pieces we don't know, but I'm with you. I'm not particularly concerned about it. I think, as I said, the bigger story and what I'd like you to talk about is why in the world are all of, is there all of this interest in creating a vaccine? There are something like 21 vaccines in the pipeline for plague. Why? Yeah, this is very concerning.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Literally, over 21 plague vaccines spanning the United States, spanning Israel. Israel is actually working on two MR&A plague vaccines. United States military is working on DNA gene therapy plague shots, viral vector plague vaccines, viral vector plague vaccines in the United Kingdom. So literally every single vaccine platform you can think of they are working on across the globe, again, particularly funded by militaries. And so it appears that they wanted to develop these in the event of a bioterrorist attack or biological warfare. And so, you know, it's been a scenario that they have been, you know, preparing for. But these vaccines were probably meant for a military personnel, actually, in the event that they would
Starting point is 00:13:14 be exposed to these modified pathogens in warfare. But, you know, regardless, it is very strange when we see, you know, such a large pipeline of vaccines for a particular pathogen, because that makes us kind of question. Well, hold on a minute that they know something was coming. Just like with COVID, they were working on MRI injections, you know, a few years before that. You know, Moderna had a gene sequence of COVID patented in like 2017. So that's what makes us question things. But yeah, it appears this situation hopefully has died off, you know, made a huge splash
Starting point is 00:13:56 in the media last week. It was absolutely everywhere. People were scared. But, you know, it seems, you know, the public sentiment is, you know, to not not be scared when we face these situations, but confront it with facts and try and navigate that and find solutions as quickly as possible. And so that's what would happen. If there was a bioterror attack or they leaked some, you know, modified ursini of pestis bacteria, you know, we would be on it right away 24-7 trying to find a compound or something that will eliminate that modified pathogen. And so, you know, we'll always be on the lookout for solutions to stop this. Yeah, and we don't have any reason to believe at this juncture that even if this is a modified lab modified pathogen, that it is not susceptible to the
Starting point is 00:14:53 standard antibiotics like doxycycline or syprifloxacin or seren or gentomycin. So we have no reason at this point to think that. I'm like you, it begs the question when all of this, there's all of this activity already in the pipeline, in this way predated this potential case of this woman dying, if they're already working on these, it just seems so similar to what happened with COVID, that way before the pandemic happened, way before this novel COVID-19 virus, you know, comes onto the, you know, into the public's sphere or knowledge base, all of a sudden it turns out there are actually patents that have already been worked on for this very virus. It makes you wonder what they know
Starting point is 00:15:38 that we don't know or what we didn't know. Are they, are they aware, you know, is the Department of Defense, our different, you know, biomedical teams aware that this kind of manipulation is on on. And so I'm with you. We keep tabs on it. I, you know, I am absolutely not the fearmonger. I don't believe in it. This does not have any of the science right now of having pandemic potential, but we just keep an eye on it and let people, you know, report the information as it comes to us. One of the things I really want to talk about is the recent study that was done, the population-based study, specifically, Nick, on the COVID-19 MRNA shots and their potential association with autism and other neurodegenerative disorders. And it looks specifically at these groups of vaccinated versus unvaccinated kids. And I think it's overwhelming information and, you know, take, tell us, lead us through that, what that study showed.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Yeah, we conducted the first population study ever looking at autism outcomes in COVID-vaccinated children. Nobody's ever looked. Clinical trials didn't look. There's been zero surveillance studies that looked. So we did the CDC and NIH's job and looked at official U.S. government. data, NHIS, National Health Interviews Survey. This is nationally representative data conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau and the CDC. It's one of the only data sets that shows both vaccination status of children and autism outcomes and other neurodevelopmental disorder. So basically, we had about
Starting point is 00:17:33 22,000 children, again, nationally representative, like different races, different income, different health status, so it was what you would see in basically the general population. And when we compared neurodevelopmental outcomes between vaccinated and unvaccinated children, the COVID-vaccinated children had increased odds of autism, anxiety, ADHD, special ed use. They had to go to special ed more, so that's called special education. It's basically, you know, they need more assistance in learning because unfortunately, you know, they're suffering developmental disabilities, as well as mental health drug use. So it appeared they had to use drugs more to mask whatever symptoms they had potentially from the shots. And the largest signal was in young children ages five to seven.
Starting point is 00:18:36 They, when they got three COVID boosters compared to none, they hadn't 150% increased odds of developing autism. So it's very concerning that when we look at such robust data like this and we find these large safety signals, you know, we have to cease using these in children immediately. And, you know, we have to start doing the longitudinal birth cohort studies, looking at. at neurodevelopmental outcomes after batteries of COVID shots and other vaccines, because actually these associations may not just be reflective of COVID shots, but also the children who get COVID shots are also following all of the other vaccination schedules. So these associations could actually be from them getting the battery of all the CDC recommended vaccines, which is just as concerning.
Starting point is 00:19:33 So, and lastly, this is important. We accounted for all of the confounding variables in this data set, which was basically everything, age, sex, income, you know, health, baseline health status. You know, so differences between these groups, these confounding variables, were all accounted for, and we still found these concerning associations in neurodevelopmental disorders in COVID-vaccinated children. And so we conducted what's called sensitivity analysis, which basically is going to eliminate all the imbalance between these groups. So we conducted all of the possible analysis you could do to see if the association would disappear, and it never disappeared.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Right. So I don't want to abandon this quite yet, but, you know, after, because we're going to take this then after the break to talk about, as you just suggested, what we really know about vaccinated versus unvaccinated children, not just with regard to COVID, but overall, and what the Henry Ford study showed in your remarkable testimony on the Henry Ford study. But this particular study that we're talking about right the second is with the COVID shots and the association with a market increased risk or increased incidence of not only autism,
Starting point is 00:21:02 but other neurodevelopmental disorders. And the reason I started on my open saying, I am fired up, I am angry, because let me remind people, hopefully everybody knows, this was a shot that in Dr. Kelly Victory's estimation, children never needed in the first place. We knew from so early in the pandemic,
Starting point is 00:21:25 we knew so early, Nick, that children were at a de minimis risk of any serious outcome from COVID, almost to be fundamentally zero. Healthy children had fundamentally zero risk of anything bad from COVID. It was like a common cold. They didn't harbor as much virus in their nose and oropharynx. They did not actually spread it to others. We have multiple studies, including a large one out of North Carolina, that showed that
Starting point is 00:21:56 children did not, in fact, bring COVID home to grandma. they did not spread it to their teachers. They were not hospitalized. They did not get significantly ill, and they did not die from this. So they got a shot that they never needed in the first place, an untested platform, because children were largely eliminated from the minimal testing that was ever done. And now you are finding and documenting this overwhelming increase in neurodevelopmental and autism outcomes in these kids who got multiple of these shots.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I think it's unconscionable. It is just more proof of why these shots should be pulled by from the market. So we're going to go to a quick break. And when we come back, I want to take it to the broader studies that we know looking at vaccinated versus unvaccinated, not just with regard to COVID, but all vaccines in general, the entire childhood vaccine schedule. and what the Henry Ford study showed. So we'll bring that up after this break.
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Starting point is 00:24:32 beef, bone broth, and it's made from real bone, not hides, and other superfoods within this bar, including blueberries and cashews, check the label. This is a great supplement and wonderful to have on hand when we're traveling. There's nothing in medicine that doesn't boil down to a risk-benefit calculation. It is the mandate public health to consider the impact of any particular mitigation scheme on the entire population. This is uncharted territory. Root. Hey, welcome back. I'm joined today by Nick Holscher, epidemiologist, extraordinaire, and we're talking about all things vaccine, COVID and otherwise. So as I said before the break, I want to get now, Nick, into this issue of the broader vaccinated, unvaccinated studies, of which there are now multiple,
Starting point is 00:25:28 I think at least 13 well-documented studies comparing vaccinated, completely unvaccinated populations to those who have, you know, followed the childhood vaccine schedule. Work, by the way, that our own government, our own CDC should have been doing and has not been doing. But one in particular was done at Henry Ford Hospital in your home state of Michigan by the head of infectious disease, Dr. Marcus Zervos, who unfortunately found himself without a spine, and it's my understanding that the study never got published, you had the opportunity to testify about the findings from that study. It's a pivotal data set, regardless of whether or not Dr. Zervos didn't have the intestinal fortitude to stand up and publish it. So talk to us about that,
Starting point is 00:26:27 give people the details on the study, why it never saw the light of day and your testimony. Yeah, this was a big deal, and it was a big mistake for Henry Ford to not show up. So basically, Michigan lawmakers wanted a hearing to reveal what this study found and what this study was, the Henry Ford study, was it's actually the largest vaccinated, risk unvaccinated birth cohort study ever conducted looking at long-term chronic disease outcomes. So it's a very strong study, followed children from birth to average age 10. And basically, the main finding was vaccinated children have a two and a half times increased risk of developing any chronic disease.
Starting point is 00:27:17 But the most concerning part is we reanalyze the numbers and just look at the raw data. And we actually published this in a peer-reviewed journal. We found that all 22 of the chronic disease categories were higher in the vaccinated children in this study, every single one with no exceptions. And this includes autism, cancer was 54% higher, ADHD, ticks, other developmental disabilities, asthma, diabetes, all this stuff, skin disorders, food allergies. This was all proportionally higher in the vaccinated children. So all of this, I was able to convey to Michigan lawmakers where Henry Ford was supposed to be. They didn't show up. And I was able to reveal a lot of other things regarding Henry Ford's strange behavior in that the statements that were made by the lead researcher on the study, Dr. Marcus Zervos.
Starting point is 00:28:20 He was caught on camera by Del Bigtree in the documentary Inconvenient Study, saying it was a great study. He said he would have published it, but he didn't want to end up like McCullough. And then he said he didn't want to lose his job and all sorts of other things. So why would a study, why would they be afraid to publish a study that is good, right? That doesn't make any sense. So that's probably why Henry Ford didn't show up. They didn't want to have to confront the fact that the lead researcher said it was good. And so they thought just ignoring it would garner less media attention.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And that's what they did. And so, but it doesn't matter because I think it was successful. And now it appears these Michigan lawmakers may now help fund larger vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies. And you're right. there's been about 12 others. So 13 in total, and they all find the exact same thing. Vaccinated children have more chronic disease in every single study that compares them. Yeah, I think the Henry Ford study showed something like 57% of fully vaccinated children
Starting point is 00:29:37 developed a chronic disease by age 10, where only 17% of unvaccinated children do. That is a massive, massive difference and cannot be ignored. And as you pointed out, this isn't just autism. We're talking ear infections, asthma, peanut allergies, psoriasis. I mean, all of these things, fully vaccinated children are sick and unvaccinated children aren't. I first became aware of this unvaxed study that Brian Hooker had done looking at things with. Brian Hooker wrote a book with Bobby Kennedy, unvaxed, and they really had delved into this early on.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I find it, number one, stunning that our own government hasn't done this. I think the reason they haven't is pretty clear, because they know what it would show. They know darn well. We have 13 studies indicating what it would show, and they know that it's going to reveal that vaccinated populations are sicker than unvaccinated. But to get back to the Henry Ford one, you know, you're right. Del Bigtree caught Marcus Zervos on camera, saying, quote, unquote. He said, oh, it's a great study.
Starting point is 00:30:55 It's a great study. I just couldn't publish it. And then he goes on to say, I'm a terrible person. I'm a terrible person because I just, I won't do it. I don't want to get fired. I don't want them to do to me what they did to McCullough, quote unquote. So here we have a scientist for. I mean, Henry Ford is an institution of some repute.
Starting point is 00:31:19 It is a well-recognized medical center that conducted this, and then they deep-six the data because, oh, crap, it actually is going to show that vaccines result in kids who are sicker than those who don't get it. So really telling, I'm so happy. I'm so appreciative that you. went and did it, put it out there that you carried the colors, Nick, and testified, because number one, I mean, it leaves a horrible black mark on Henry Ford, but in order for those legislators to understand the data, to explain it to them, and hopefully compel them to do
Starting point is 00:32:04 something with it, in your mind, having been there in person, is there going to be any fallout from Henry Ford or are they just going to act like this never happened? No, they're going to act like nothing ever happened. They're going to just brush it under the rug and offer no responses, and that's that. And I didn't see any media coverage of it either. I mean, there was alternative media coverage, but there was no local news stations covering this. It appears, you know, they're all on the same team. They're on the team of the biopharmaceutical complex that likes to push maximal vaccination.
Starting point is 00:32:44 without any safety data. Well, okay, let's take it right from there. Perfect segue. So here we have, you know, we're laying out all of this overwhelming data. You know, your population is based data on the COVID vaccines and the association with autism and neurodevelopmental disorders. The Henry Ford stuff, the vaccinated versus unvaccinated. At the same time, there is now all of these countries jumping on the new.
Starting point is 00:33:14 UN, what are they calling it, pandemic vaccine treaty, something. So this effort to fundamentally fast track vaccines in what, 100 days to make it so that a new vaccine can get brought to market in a hundred days. After everything that we are just exposing here, they're doubling down on it. They are doubling down on the religion of vaccines. explain the details of this, this just came out. I think today or yesterday I learned about this. Yeah, this just came out and this is very concerning. So literally 153 countries just adopted the United Nations a pandemic declaration that literally calls for stomping out so-called vaccine hesitancy and pushing rapidly developed experimental vaccines
Starting point is 00:34:14 and developed in just 100 days from a pandemic threat. And so that's a lot of countries. And there's a lot of other concerning things in this declaration as well, this global health declaration, including expanded surveillance, expanded pathogens sharing. So they'll be transporting biological specimens, some of which may be modified country to country. That poses its own risks as well as other things.
Starting point is 00:34:45 They call it information pandemics, basically, infodemics. They want to control what they call are infodemics, which is actually a term to just mean censorship, basically, right? And so what this all indicates is now they have in place. this sort of political agreement between all these countries to enforce scientific censorship again, to bring back lockdowns. They call it a whole of society and whole of government approach. Those are the own words they use in the declaration.
Starting point is 00:35:25 So what that means is if they tell you have to take a vaccine, all of society has to take the vaccine. And so this is very dangerous, very disheartening. thankfully the United States said no they didn't sign on to it and actually Israel didn't sign onto it and neither did Argentina those are the only three countries that stayed out of that disaster so thankfully you know the United States is not involved with that well okay so they're not involved with that but at the same time and and I'm again very very grateful that they're not this is absolute insanity I've said from the beginning
Starting point is 00:36:05 to be clear, and I will say it again, the WHO has nothing to do with public health. They are the long arm of the Chinese Communist Party. Tedros Gabriasis, who runs the WHO, is not even a medical doctor. He was a hand-picked leader from the CCP. This is about world domination. This is about control. This has nothing to do with health. This is an absolute defiance of the science. if you've learned nothing else, even if you're pro vaccine, God, help you certainly have to know that there's no vaccine that can be brought to market safely in 100 days. There is no substitute for 12 months, 24 month, 36 month, safety testing. You need to have those. You cannot state, you know, what the long-term effects are, have any idea what the modulation is of the human immune system
Starting point is 00:37:03 in 100 days. It cannot. be done. And that is clear. So the United States may not have signed this ridiculous, horrible treaty thing. But at the same time, we have inexplicably the fact that the FDA just approved, Nick, Moderna's new MRI flu shot, despite data about it. That is, and so after this break, we're going to come back, after this break, we're going to come back and talk about that. Okay, we don't sign this treaty. Yet we have stuff going on in our own government. Our FDA just approved Modena's MRNA flu shot despite data that shows an exponentially higher risk of severe adverse events. Not minimal.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Not minimal. I'm not talking about sore arm or a little fever compared to the regular flu vaccine. I'm talking about, what, a two and a half times higher risk of death, you know, six times higher risk of serious adverse events. how in the world did that ever get FDA approved? And I want to make sure that everyone is aware that if you choose to get a flu shot, there are options out there. This MRNA one that's out there shouldn't be your choice. So let's cut to the break and then we'll come back. I want to talk about this recent FDA approval.
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Starting point is 00:40:52 Somehow, the FDA approved this recent Moderna-MRNA flu shot. It is certainly the standard ones, the traditional platform, if you will, for flu, vaccines are still out there. I am not a fan of any of them. I've been a physician for more than 35 years. I've never taken a flu shot in my life, ever, because I have a healthy immune system, and if I get the flu, I'm pretty sure I can get over it. I may be sick for five days, might feel lousy, but enough motrin, Tylenol, decongestants, anti-asdemeans, cough medicine, you know, I will get through it. And I don't believe in flogging. my immune system year after year after year with a shot that has maybe a 30% chance, maybe in a
Starting point is 00:41:42 good year of actually addressing the current flu variant. But talk to us about the MRI shot that got approved and what you know about the data. Yeah, this is a horrible situation. And there's actually a lot of breaking developments just today on it. So first of all, we have published in a peer-reviewed journal, the Journal of Independent Medicine, a reanalysis of the FDA clinical data used to approve Moderna's new MRI flu shot. Okay. And it's a form of human sacrifice, right? And I'm not just saying that to sound, you know, to make it sound crazy. No, no, no, it is a form of human sacrifice. And I say that because we did a risk-benefit analysis using their own data. To theoretically prevent one single flu hospitalization, you have to give 4,000 people an adverse event with M-fluousiva.
Starting point is 00:42:47 You have to give about 300 people a disabling grade 3 reaction that prevents daily activity. It could result in hospitalizations and other horrible complications. and then you have to kill two people. Two people have to die from unexplained deaths. And again, this is all to theoretically prevent one flu hospitalization. This is absolutely crazy. So that's what we found. Two and a half times increased risk of unexplained death compared to a conventional flu shot.
Starting point is 00:43:20 That was statistically significant. Six times more grade three reactions than the conventional flu shot. They had no placebo group. And then we sent all of this to Secretary Kennedy. He confirmed receipt of it. And it appears that the smallest, most baby win we were able to obtain from this was the CDC did not recommend it at least yet for this year's flu vaccination schedule. And as a result of that, this is kind of a win. Just today, the military, the Department of War just stated,
Starting point is 00:43:58 They will not be authorizing Moderna's MRNA flu shot for military personnel because the CDC is not recommending it. So it almost is like there is a small chain reaction of small wins from this, right? Horrible, disastrous product approval, right? Should have never been approved. It's now been proven to be a form of human sacrifice. CDC doesn't recommend it, thankfully. and then military does not authorize it for their personnel. So, you know, we're making small impacts here with the exposure of all these data,
Starting point is 00:44:35 but it's absolutely disgusting than this was ever approved. Whoever was involved in this approval should be immediately fired and investigated for mass negligence. I mean, this is going to result in large numbers, according to their own data. This is going to result in large numbers of data. and disabilities and not save anybody. They didn't even test to see if it saved people from influenza death. They didn't even look at that.
Starting point is 00:45:04 So it's not going to save anybody. So first of all, you deserve, this is not just a small way, and you deserve a huge feather in your cap. Had you not reanalyzed the data. And by the way, again, the CDC's own, excuse me, the FDA's own data. Not your data, not data that you did from some other study. their data, reanalyzed it and handed it back to them. Had you not done that, you would never have compelled the CDC to refrain from recommending
Starting point is 00:45:35 this on the vaccine schedule and the subsequent change of the DOD, not therefore giving it to our troops. It would never have happened. So you saved a lot of lives and a lot of heartache and suffering by doing that. The fact that I agree with you, and it's why I said, am I open? Do people understand now why my hair is? on fire. I am so angry. And I've gone from being someone who is really circumspect about vaccines to somebody who's saying, you know what the hell with it. I'm done with all of them because this is
Starting point is 00:46:06 bullshit, because this is the kind of stuff that's getting crammed through. How can you approve something with this kind of data? I would love to review, you know, have a forensic evaluation of people's bank accounts who are involved in this decision. I want to see who's getting kickback from whom. whose nest is getting feathered, because they are doing this on the backs of the American people. And so for anyone out there, I'm not telling anybody not to get a flu shot. If that's, you know, your jam, that's what you think you should do, you know, your decision. But please, if you choose to do it, ask your doctor, your pharmacist, make sure that you are getting the standard flu shot, not the new Moderna-MRNA flu shot, because it is really.
Starting point is 00:46:52 with problems. And it is out there because it is FDA approved. And I just can't tell you when you go to your local Walgreens or Walmart or, you know, wherever you get your flu shots, I have no idea what they're stocking. You have a right to ask. You have a right to look at the package insert. And you have a right to say, I don't want Moderna's new MRI flu shot. So start with that. Nick, what's your response to people who say, to you, this is all, you know, this is all bullshit. You know, we have the VAIR system in place. We have a system in place to look for safety signals. You know, why isn't the, you know, the much touted VAERS system that was developed by the way, not by you and me, it was developed by the CDC. It's their system. They developed it. They own it. Why is the VAIRS system, the
Starting point is 00:47:51 vaccine adverse event reporting system bears. Why is it not protecting us the way it's supposed to? It's not protecting us because the vaccine cartel likes to really attack it and claim it's a worthless system. And I think the reason they've done that is because during the COVID pandemic, we saw tens of thousands of deaths and over a million adverse event reports. file up. And so what the discredit tactic is is to claim that none of it's causal and it's all made up, basically. And so that's what that side's claiming. But that's simply not true because we know a large proportion of a vaccine adverse event reporting system reports are filed by the health care provider or the clinic. You know, it's not all just reported by the patient. And even if it is, it's still
Starting point is 00:48:51 very serious. I mean, you go on there and just look for a little bit. There's like 16-year-olds dying of blood clots in their lungs, two days after Moderna boosters. You know, there's small children dying of strokes, right? So, I mean, this is all very real and very disturbing information, and it does provide safety signal generations. It gives you safety signals. And there's literally hundreds of them in there. I mean, it's so undeniable now. And so, no, it's not flawed. The reason why it is flawed is because it's underreported. In fact, less than 1% of adverse events are reported to bear. So it's only capturing a very tiny percentage of what's actually happening. That's why it's flawed. And so, you know, it's still a very useful research tool. And it's given us,
Starting point is 00:49:48 a lot of information that we needed to know. There's also, it was a recent BMJ, British Medical Journal article regarding some flaws that were known to be in the Vera system. The various system apparently uses two different algorithms to determine what is in fact a safety signal. And one of their senior vaccine safety officers apparently was reporting to the CDC. wait, this isn't working.
Starting point is 00:50:19 There's a flaw in the algorithm. It's not picking up on this. And they, classic, you know, they just, they silenced him. They fundamentally said, no, you be quiet. You stay over there. You be quiet. And so apparently, you know, officials at the CDC were aware or should have been aware that some of the safety signals were being missed.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Do you know anything about that? Yeah. Yeah. And it's shocking that the BN. MJ is actually acknowledging this. So basically, Senator Ron Johnson and his team confirmed that the FDA officials basically covered up 25 major safety signals in 2021, including sudden cardiac death, pulmonary infarction strokes and other serious heart attacks.
Starting point is 00:51:11 They covered up all of this stuff because they were aware that there was a better algorithm to use, and they chose not to use the one that would show all of these signals, right? So they intentionally buried all of those major, major concerns while telling millions of people to take the MRNA injections, right? So covering up large numbers of deaths, injuries, disabilities, while simultaneously telling the entire American population to take them. That's absolutely horrible. That is for sure. I mean, they need, there needs to be urgent criminal investigations into these individuals because that's, that should not be occurring. That should not be occurring whatsoever. And it's all confirmed
Starting point is 00:52:06 now. There's internal documents. There's internal communications. I mean, they told the, the FDA staffer, they told the FDA chief scientists that uncovered these signals to cease and desist. I mean, they told her to stop. They shut her down. This is all documented. And so all the, and these individuals involved in this cover-up are still working in HHS, FDA, CDC, NIH. And so they have to be fired immediately. And criminal investigations need to commence. Exactly. And that's what I said. information, the receipts are so clear, we have the evidence that they knew about this. Look,
Starting point is 00:52:52 you've got this, you know, recent bombshell from the BMJ, but look, if you've read any of the Fauci diaries, if you've read any of his texts, his communications, they knew about the harms to pregnant women. They knew about the risk of miscarriage. They knew about all of these things. And at the same time as they were having internal communications talking about how they would keep their communications free from FOIA requests and delete them from the servers, they're out there in every Sunday talk show, you know, every evening news program saying, you know, get vaccinated. This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. You know, this is on and on and on, vilifying people who are asking questions, certainly vilifying people who chose not to get vaccinated. It's absolutely
Starting point is 00:53:39 unconscionable what happened. And the fact, we cannot allow them to memory hold this. I am so happy for people like you and people obviously like Ron Johnson who continue to say this must be exposed. You know, Fauci got the auto pen pardon, but there are a heck of a lot of people out there, Nick, as you are just intimating, who are still in the government, still in these positions, who have the authority to do things like, oh, I don't know, approve an FDA, MRI shot for, you know, approve something that is just, rife with complications. And I find it just truly, truly frightening enough that I would say, the heck with all of them, because I can't trust any of them. The clock's winding down,
Starting point is 00:54:28 but I want to touch on one last story because you brought it to my attention right before the show. It is bad enough that you are, you know, risking the lives, the health and wellness of America's children of our working, you know, people, people who have the right to make decisions about their own. But now they're screwing with the elephants. Now they're messing with the baby elephants and the animals. Talk a little bit in the last couple of minutes here about this issue of them doing this to animals. Yeah, this is disgusting. So basically, in zoos across America, There's like seven major zoos already. They've begun administering MRI injections to endangered baby elephants.
Starting point is 00:55:21 These are Asian elephants. They're at risk of very high risk of extinction. And so the vaccine cartel has decided to start injecting them with gene therapy products. They claim they're trying to protect them from elephant herpes virus. but you know the crazy thing is they actually did a field trial they injected all of them and after a few months a lot of the elephants developed elephant herpes virus anyways so these mRNA injections aren't even working and they're continuing to inject all the elephants with mrna shots while they're trapped in the zoo and so that's probably going to slowly kill them off
Starting point is 00:56:05 I mean, elephants live a long time. They can live 50, 60 years. And so now you're just going to be shortening their lifespans. This is monstrous. But you know what? It's not shocking. They experimented on the human population. And so it's very easy for these individuals to experiment on elephants, right?
Starting point is 00:56:24 But it's very sad. I mean, this should not be occurring. This should not be occurring. No. And again, this is just there's something going on here that has made, taken vaccines and vaccinology from being the orthodoxy that it was when I was in training, that we were taught that, you know, there was no relationship to autism, certainly, that vaccines were what saved us from the scourge of polio. It was vaccines that say, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:54 and I, and I've been very clear about this, was early on in my career, I was one of those people saying it. I said, look, you know, people are too young to remember that we had a president in a wheelchair because of polio, and it was the vaccines that rid us of that scourge. Okay, except that that wasn't true, except that that was wrong. I was taught that, but it's a big fat lie. Deaths from polio and severe illness from polio, just like measles, deaths from measles and severe illness from measles, had all but gone to zero before those various vaccines were ever rolled out to the public. So I was taught an orthodoxy in medical school, as were my colleagues that simply isn't true. It's gone, however, Nick, from this orthodoxy to now a religion.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Now it is absolutely, we don't care what the data show. We are cramming this through at faster and faster rates. You know, this recent, you know, treaty, UN treaty, now we're going to do it in a hundred days. I mean, even Trump wasn't trying to, Operation Warp Speed wasn't trying to do something in a hundred days. Now they're just sort of in your face going, we're going to cram this down in your throats or more appropriately, we're going to cram this into your arm, regardless of who you are, regardless of whether or not it works, whether it's necessary, whether we have adequate safety data. I mean, it has gotten to the point where I think everyone needs to remain alert. I'm not suggesting that you become an anti-vexer per se, but don't think that this isn't happening.
Starting point is 00:58:32 This information is really troubling to me. It's why my hair is on fire. And I can't tell you how much I appreciate you being here. We've got probably another full show worth of stuff to talk about. So I will continue to bring you back and highlight the remarkable papers that you're writing. Take a true bow on the fact that you were able to keep that recently approved MRI flu. shot out of the arms of our military and hopefully many others because of the great work you did, you know, reanalyzing that data and presenting it so that the CDC had no choice.
Starting point is 00:59:15 It's great work and it really, truly, Nick will end up saving lives. So we got to wrap it up. But again, I will, I promise we'll do this again soon because we got lots more to talk about. Thanks for being here. Thank you. Okay, I think we've got, I am back later this week. Again, I'm covering for doing. As it said, I may not give up the chair on the microphone. I'm back on Thursday with Ivan Rayclan. Interesting, he is going to spill the goods. He's a former Green Beret and an attorney who is ready to drop the
Starting point is 00:59:52 receipts on what happened with the DOD and how the COVID vaccine became mandated, the doctor behind that, Dr. Adderham, and how she subsequently lost. lost her job, as well as the bait and switch that she did with the actual EUA version of the vaccine versus the FDA approved one. And then Eric Bowling coming back to talk all things economy, I'm guessing, with Michael Gates and Patrick Byrne. Naomi Wolf will be the following week with Eric Berg. And then it looks like great to Alan Dershowitz and Merrill Nass. That'll be an interesting show. And one of my favorite people of all time, Victor Davis Hansen, coming up. So lots going on once Drew gets back.
Starting point is 01:00:36 But plan on joining me Thursday. Same bad time, same bad place. On Thursday with Ivan Rakelin, as I said, I'll be really delving into what he knows and could expose about what happened with the COVID vaccines, particularly with regard to our military and what happened with that. So thanks for being with us and see on Thursday, I hope. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky. Emily Barsh is our content producer.
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