Ask Dr. Drew - Chef Goes Viral For REFUSING Bug Burgers & COVID Lockdowns: Andrew Gruel w/ Kat Timpf – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 239

Episode Date: July 14, 2023

Chef Andrew Gruel went viral for refusing to close his restaurant after California banned outdoor dining in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic – despite CA’s own Governor Newsom being sighted multiple times dining maskless and indoors at fancy eateries. Chef Gruel joins Kat Timpf LIVE to discuss pandemic power grabs, Frankenmeats, lab-cultivated chicken, and why globalist organizations like the WEF want insects on the menu. “Governor Gavin Newsom is banning dining indoors after he dines indoors with 22 people,” tweeted Chef Gruel. “He’s banning groups of more than four or five people when once again, he was with 22 people indoors.” Chef Andrew Gruel appeared as a judge on Food Network’s Food Truck Face Off and as a host of FYI’s Say It to My Face!, and is the founder of Slapfish, a seafood restaurant franchise that he launched in 2012. After the COVID-19 pandemic forced many restaurants to shut down, Gruel started a fund in December 2020 to raise money for out-of-work restaurant industry employees, raising over $230,000 in the first three weeks. Follow Chef Andrew Gruel at https://twitter.com/ChefGruel Kat Timpf is a comedian and NYT bestselling author of “You Can’t Joke About That: Why Everything is Funny, Nothing is Sacred, & We’re All in This Together.” She co-hosts Gutfeld! on Fox News weeknights at 11pm. Find more at https://www.therealkattimpf.com/ and follow her at https://twitter.com/KatTimpf 「 SPONSORED BY 」 Find out more about the companies that make this show possible and get special discounts on amazing products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • PRIMAL LIFE - Dr. Drew recommends Primal Life's 100% natural dental products to improve your mouth. Get a sparkling smile by using natural teeth whitener without harsh chemicals. For a limited time, get 60% off at https://drdrew.com/primal • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew • BIRCH GOLD - Don’t let your savings lose value. You can own physical gold and silver in a tax-sheltered retirement account, and Birch Gold will help you do it. Claim your free, no obligation info kit from Birch Gold at https://birchgold.com/drew • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get an extra discount with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 ABOUT the SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 For over 30 years, Dr. Drew has answered questions and offered guidance to millions through popular shows like Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Dr. Drew On Call (HLN), Teen Mom OG (MTV), and the iconic radio show Loveline. Now, Dr. Drew is opening his phone lines to the world by streaming LIVE from his home studio. Watch all of Dr. Drew's latest shows at https://drdrew.tv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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for an extra discount and free priority shipping. Again, that is Genucel.com slash Drew, G-E-N-U-C-E-L.com slash D-R-E-W. So as I said, Kat Timfin here co-hosting with me today we are in new york city uh i suggest you run out and get her books you can't joke about this again do it again i'm not very good at this tell them why you can't joke about that oh yeah this is a book about how you can joke about everything and all the dark stuff people tell you not to joke about is the most important stuff to joke about because that's how you get through it and uh you'll see cat on dr drew after dark uh coming soon where she talks in grotesque detail grotesque is the word for it grotesque detail about some of the things she has been through that she jokes about in this book yes and um

how shall we uh sort of sort of tip our hat to to uh what it is that's in there just say that um i mean her plumbing got uh external externalized and disconnected and some shit went down quite literally and out and out so uh we are joined today by chef andrew girl he uh has a terrible story of being forced like many restaurants to shut down. He started a fund in December 2020 to raise money for out-of-work restaurant workers. Raised over $230,000 in the first three weeks. You can follow him at Chef Gruel, G-R-U-E-L, on Twitter. By the way, Kat is the real Kat Timpf.com and also Kat Timpf, K-A-T-T-, K T T I M P F on Twitter.

Let's see if I left anybody else for anybody. Andrew girls also on a rumble and YouTube. Andrew, welcome to the program. Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. So I, what did I see you on recently?

It was some, some pod. And I thought I must talk to him because it just brought me back to the dark days of California lockdown and literally I was doing a nightly news broadcast during that period on Fox 11 a local you know Fox affiliate not a Fox News like right geez that is a Fox network thing and think family guy, that sort of thing. And I just remember thinking to myself, like a year in, I kept obsessing about the businesses around Disneyland. I kept thinking there are all these businesses around Disneyland,

all these thousands of employees, thousands of businesses, and they are being destroyed. The lives are being destroyed. In Florida, Disney World, wide open. All those businesses doing fine, at least surviving. And in California, they're being choked to death. And you were one of those businesses. Tell the story.

Yeah, so when they shut everything down, it was just pandemonium from a financial perspective. You've got bills to pay. Obviously, it's a cash flow business. It's a registered business. And there was no pause on any of the bills. There was no pause on the landlords coming after. There was no pause on payroll, taxes, et cetera. So for us, it was just about trying to figure out

how we could get through day by day. I owned, at the time, I had eight restaurants in Southern California, but I also had a franchise system across the country. So as a franchisor, I was also had a franchise system across the country. So as a franchisor, I was dealing with all the questions from the franchisees and trying to understand financially how we can support them. But we're just kind of a small franchisor strapped with cash.

But as I mentioned, it was about the team members, right? We didn't know what we were going to do with all of our team members, how those employees were going to be financially kind of our team members, how those employees were going to be financially, you know, kind of supported through this whole process. So for us, it was just about, okay, what can we do to cook the food that's on our shelves, support our employees, and then get through this theoretical two weeks to slow the spread. Yeah, it was not two weeks. I was here in New York the whole time, which a lot of people left i couldn't leave and one thing that would drive me nuts is i still had a job and i'd be on tv and people be asking me about it and i would see other people at times saying the whole just stay home thing and saying just stay home means just close your business just don't make any money and just

somehow still be able to survive it was even worse the rhetoric was first there was was if one is uh if one is in danger we're all in danger remember that rhetoric you're a murderer yeah that you're a murderer if you do anything but but just stay home was hey you can you're much more concerned about money than the well-being of other people we're all in this together aren't you worried about other and i kept saying for god's sakes if lockdown was the answer for something that was going to kill everybody of course it is neither the answer nor are the vulnerable being protected right it was just unreal and yet destroys being lives being destroyed because of frankly models i hope everyone got the message that models

modeling epidemiological modeling all those things that is not only not a science, it is closer to divining rod in terms of predicting the future. And to have millions of lives upended and destroyed because of it, I just couldn't get over it. And then they decided to close the schools. And to me, there's literally footage of me on TV going, why are you doing this? Who told you to do that? We just think it's the right thing to do. Really? The right thing to do?

You couldn't predict what was going to happen if you did that? So, okay. So now it's going on week 12. What's happening with your restaurants and employees? Well, see, this is where I think people don't understand kind of the granular element of what was going on with businesses is that right when they shut everything down, there was no relief for anybody. And then even when the PPP program or the debacle was launched, nobody got money from that until probably eight to 12 weeks later. All of the employees within the industry

that were let go because nobody's business was open, we actually did remain open and we ended up cooking for all of the first line first responders. We kept our restaurant open and we continued to pay our team members. But those team members that got let go from other restaurants, they couldn't get unemployment benefits. If you recall in California, $70 billion of unemployment fraud. So when they said, oh, well, don't worry, you're going to get approved for unemployment. They didn't get those checks for, in some cases, eight to nine months afterwards. So nobody had cash.

There was no money available for anybody to live their daily lives. That's what I think people forget about. And then even those businesses that shut down in the first four to five weeks, they weren't allowed to apply for that PPP money or the employee retention credit because they were already closed. So it disqualified them.

And it's that first tranche of restaurants that have now forever been forgotten about that I think has still been kind of left in that black hole. And then we had two restaurants I remember attempting to stay open and serve food out of doors in the L.A. County area. What was the one called Flats, Hamburger Flats or something? Are you familiar with that? Tin Horn Flats. It was like in Glendale. Tin Horn Flats.

And Tin Horn Flats, this is how draconian and authoritarian things became because those guys did dared to defy barbara ferrer dared to defy her by serving hamburgers out of doors which is how we all should have been eating at the time dared to defy her they literally put chain link around the restaurant they cemented it shut they were dumping sand into skate parks and all the outdoor activities where everything that's what you should have been doing yes you're supposed to just drink in your house but tin horn flats that tin horn flats is still a lawsuit underway and do you have any insight into whether that's going to be successful?

I know that he has been completely decimated. Obviously, the restaurant's been closed for months. The state is piling up all of their fees and penalties for many unpaid sales tax, sales and use tax. I don't know what the outcome of the lawsuit is going to be, but I highly doubt that it's going to be successful, especially in Los Angeles County. They pretty much used him as the, you know, the pariah and the symbol that they're going to persecute him because he dared to question the authorities during the pandemic.

Doesn't anybody I don't understand why this doesn't send shutters down people's spine. It should, especially because all the people coming up with this stuff in the government and then the people pushing it, a lot of them in the media, they're all just fine. This didn't affect them in a negative way. They're all still working. Mm-hmm.

And let's remember, it's been shown to be categorically not a good idea. Right. It came from the Chinese Communist Party policies in Wuhan that were a fault were completely fabricated in terms of the effects they had and then followed through in lombardi italy by a guy who really didn't care about covet but wanted just to deploy chinese style tactics to show how wonderful they are and then we followed suit the world followed suit which

is the thing i find mind-boggling but I would suggest, I would suspect that nobody did it longer and with greater flair than California. Am I right about that? Yeah, a thousand percent. Because they shut down the beaches and I recall at the time it was July, right? And so we had gotten used to serving outdoors and we had gotten used to having these kind of limited indoor seating elements where you could have these tables here and there and follow the arrows. I mean, it was obviously it was asinine.

It was a clown show, but we followed through with it and they shut down the beaches in July and I said at the time and I posted on social media, this is going to be a disaster. It's going to exacerbate the spread because now you're going to have everybody who was going to go to the beach end up in a backyard party or in somebody's house. And by the very metrics they were using to shut us down in these closed settings, that was going to create more of a spread. And I spoke out about it. And that was the first time I got officially canceled. I was a murderer. I was the worst person in the world. I was a greedy business owner, a greedy restaurant owner. They shut it down as well in Orange County on Friday. I had purchased all of my inventory on Thursday going into the weekend and overscheduled my staff.

We lost all the inventory. Obviously, I paid my staff for all the hours, but business was completely decimated because nobody was coming to the beaches for the 4th of July weekend. Outside. The beaches are outside everybody knows what they're outside oh yeah the part of the part of the reason that you got canceled with such uh vigor is that the press had done this incredible job i heard peter atia talking about this he had a friend of his father no a family he knew the father who was in his 50s or 60s came to him and said please convince my son to get the vaccine he does you know i he's being irrational he won't get the vaccine so peter went over to that family and he sat down and the dad and the mom were apoplectic about this

and he thought and finally went what do you think and the kid was 28 years old 30 years old and he said what do you imagine his risk is if he gets covid what his chances of death well at least 50 i mean this is what the press had done this is what the public health wow monstrosity had done which is so badly panicked people that they literally believed that there was a 50% fatality rate for a population for whom the fatality rate was well under 1%. And by the way, and I've said this over and over again, if you ever hear from a doctor that you have a 99% probability of doing well, he or she is telling you, forget about it.

Don't even think about it. So the fact that we allowed that to happen and by the way you're part of the press why didn't the press are they are they sort of re-evaluated themselves in any way are they thinking about what they had done yeah i think a lot of the media is unfortunately about teams you're on you know the right or you're on the left and then whatever your team goes with is what you then have to go with i've i don I don't subscribe to that. I'm not on, I'm not a Democrat. I'm not a Republican team libertarian. I'm imagining this particular story is, I mean, you, you, in your lifetime, you'd never seen anything like that. And yet you're, this would make you a libertarian if you weren't already property rights just don't exist. All of

these basic things just don't exist. People cops showing up things just don't exist. People, cops showing up because you have a restaurant. This is why I am a libertarian, but also a libertarian is just, you know, I'm small L. I'm not part of that party either. I just don't believe the government has the solutions to these problems. And I think that when it forces what it thinks are solutions on people, things can get worse. And I think that's what happened here. And I think people, if you pick a side, you don't really have to think because all your thinking has been done for you already. So people would just say, okay, my side saying this is really deadly and everyone should close. And if you don't close your heartless. So then they just push that because that's what they've

been doing all along is okay. This is what my side thinks. Cause you don't want to have any pushback. And then if you say one thing that's out of step, then your career is over there. So we didn't have any critical thinking going on because binary thinking is the opposite of that because it just says there's only two possibilities and i pick my side and then i'm done and you don't think it through have you seen that video it's flying around on social media where you know where they're just all the people on press are repeating these aphorisms over and over again it's it's unreal where did they get that from who who told them to say these things that's what i couldn't understand government well also but you know you know wait hang on one second andrew one

quick second because this is actually important to me uh which is when you go on the show at night no no there's no government no we're that is how could that even get through to you no so where did that come from no i mean i i can say whatever I want. I just think that a lot of people, I think social media makes it worse, right? Because if you're on a certain channel, then maybe there's a certain viewpoint that your audience has. And if you hear these weirdos who go after you

for saying something, which again, I don't know anybody in my real life who is going after strangers that they see on TV, right? That's a weird thing to do, but you can internalize it and you could think, okay, I don't want to upset these people who are my base and then I'll be done. They're mobs, they're crazy. And it's a small percentage of the population

that's even on Twitter at all, but it can feel big when you're on there. So I think people are like, this is how I have to say this because then they're going to all be mad at me and then what happens to me? And then it just kind of builds on each other because you don't want to be the one to say something because then you're going to all be mad at me. And then what happens to me? And then it just kind of builds on each other because you don't want to be the one to say something because then you'll be excommunicated. And so nobody stopped to say, hey, this is legitimately insane.

It's legitimately insane. Andrew, I'm so sorry I interrupted you. Please go right ahead. Well, no, what I found fascinating through the pandemic was what I noticed is there was this social phenomena that when sports were shut down All the people whose lives were based around fantasy football the games the drafts the you know get sports betting everything They turned that need for competitive, you know kind of you know rigging and rooting to politics So I had friends who knew nothing about politics but were hardcore sports fanatics who suddenly were picking sides because it was like a sports game and they wanted their side to win. So I think it's interesting that the lack of sports in society turned so many people. It was like instead of having, you know, the jersey with, you know, Aaron Judge on the back of it,

it was like Nancy Pelosi, right? That was their player. That was who they decided to root for, Donald Trump. Plus, they're just stuck in their house. I mean, I've never spent more time. And again, all the liquor stores are open. People are just in their house drinking. What can go wrong mentally? The dispensers are open too, so we can continue

to distribute. Crossfaded. But you were stuck in the city. You were stuck in this city during all that. It must have been very bizarre, because a lot of people left. Everybody left. And I was still working here. And I remember the only people that seemed to be having a good summer were the people who were doing drugs on the street.

And I considered it. I was like, Cam, to my husband, I was like, should we start shooting up? They're having a great time. We're not having a great time. What's to stop us? We ultimately decided against it. We traveled a lot during during covid and did not get covid from planes i got it from running around a hospital

trying to get the vaccine but but um but i remember coming here a couple times and i i literally felt like somebody walking around machu picchu or something going once there was a great city and one day everybody left they just vanished everybody out. Cause it was empty in this town for, for six months or so. And again, New York did the reality is New York did get hit pretty damn hard, fast and swift. The whole thing was really kind of over here pretty quickly.

The problem is that the living environments and the hallways and the way the elevators are set up are like designed for a pandemic. Like if you want to make a spread of virus, go uptown here and live in some of those buildings. I really blame some of the elevators and things. Yeah. Yeah. Susan was in one today. But, you know, again, back to California, which is something you tweeted about, Andrew.

And by the way, am i getting the pronunciation of your name right is it like cruel gruel uh gruel like the porridge people think it's a stage name because of my career but it's real i i thought it was i well i was guessing that you had a tough time with because gruel gruel was sort of not the most uh appet. Yeah. Was that always the best, the best part of the meal, right? Yeah. I think it's cute. Oh, so you like it. So, so I just want to make sure I wasn't calling you gruel the whole time. And it was something, no, it's a gruel. How dare you? So, okay. But back to California where things were just so ridiculous and so disturbing, you know we used to go to oh you tweeted um that one of the great sort of affronts uh during the pandemic was all this insane rhetoric coming out

of sacramento which people don't know is actually the capital of california and uh it it's it's as as insane as if you don't know it um the fact that that is our capital is just an astonishment, but there it is. The governor goes to dinner in Napa Valley with 22 friends at the French Laundry in a enclosed space, gets it documented on social media, and then claimed they were out of doors. And then it was clearly documented. They were not, they were indoors. And at the time you tweeted that there was limitations on how many people could gather, you couldn't go to somebody's house and here's, here are the leaders doing whatever the hell they damn well please. Yeah.

And that was emblematic of, I think what was happening across America with all of the leaders. All we saw was hypocrisy after hypocrisy. Nobody followed their own rules because they knew they were asinine. They knew they were absurd. Nobody actually put policies in place that seemed reasonable. They were just draconian. But the thing about Governor Newsom was that, number one, his wineries were allowed to open.

Number two, he lied to everybody. And then he got busted and he kind of doubled down on the lie. He never really accepted responsibility for lines and nor did he backpedal on any of these crazy policies. Then he shuts down outdoor dining, outdoor dining, 75 degrees and sunny in December going into the holidays when people already don't have enough money to get, you know, to pay rent, to buy Christmas gifts for their family. He shuts down outdoor dining and in the same breath says, oh, and by the way, we have no unemployment benefits because of the fraud. We'll have it under the new administration come February. So everybody's going to lose their job.

Nobody can open their restaurant and we can't give you any money. You know what New York did that i thought was messed up right before the holidays they closed down everything but they said almost like they were being nice but you can have outdoor dining in new york in december like that's a viable option for anyone perfect oh my gosh well at least they tried is Is that trying? Not really. I'll grant you that. Andrew, did this change your politics at all? Did it change how you view government, how you view their decision-making, or whom or where you should support?

It made me more libertarian, I think. It changed how vocal I was about it. So I was always involved in politics. I was the you know, I was in youth and government model UN. I volunteer for senators growing up in high school. But I always kept my mouth shut. And, you know, when I got into the industry, I continued forward with this kind of as Kat says, little l perspective on life. But I finally opened my mouth. Now, why I think that that's an important thing to mention is, is that the minute I started speaking out and I said, I'm no longer going to hide my politics, I got dropped from boards. I got dropped from TV contracts. I got basically completely canceled from any institutional kind of culinary construct because now I was the guy that was speaking out. And when I, when I spoke out against Newsom specifically, I was also targeted pretty hard by the state. But the fact that you were ostracized the way you were, I'm going to predict.

Because you see now, you're able to speak freely now. You're finding lots of people agree with you and agreed with you the whole time. Who knew? You probably thought you were alone with that. And yet, I'm going to guess almost a majority agreed with you but agreed with you the whole time who knew you probably thought you were alone with that and yet i'm gonna guess almost a majority agreed with you but were confused and scared and you were radioactive that's the problem they had to drop you for fear of this weird mob that would go around and exert its will yeah so when it was it was pretty fascinating because I remember when Newsom shut down outdoor dining, I did a real quick video and it went completely viral. And in the video, I said, I'm not the a-hole Newsom's the a-hole. And it was like plastered all over New York post

celebrity chef called Newsom and a-hole was all over the place. And immediately we started getting all of this, you know, all these calls from people in the restaurants. I'll never come and eat at your restaurant again. We're canceling you just, you know, the complaints. They had to shut down my Yelp page because I was getting canceled on Yelp. And I said to my wife, now we had, we had just had a baby, right? This was our fourth child. And we're trying to juggle the restaurants, any excess capital we had, we were giving to our employees and our team members to try and help them out. So we were pretty cash draft. And my wife is like, you made a mistake. We're going to get canceled. This is going to be horrible. I said, just go with it.

The next week, our sales went up 15 X. So every single person that was calling and complaining, we had people driving an hour and a half to come to our restaurant just to support us. We had people driving an hour and a half to come to our restaurant just to support us. We had people calling in saying, run my credit card for $1,000. I just want to support your business. Oh, my goodness. Isn't that interesting? You know, we did that during the pandemic. We went down to Dana Point where the sheriff refused to enforce the lockdown. I don't know if you had any restaurants in Dana point, but things were just

operating as usual there on the restaurants and we appreciated it so much. We went down regularly, supported it. And we continue, we go back to those restaurants now to offer our support. Yeah. Yeah. It was a orange County, the orange County sheriff overall, he wasn't gonna, he wasn't going to support the outdoor dining band, so we left our outdoor dining completely wide open. Um, we still had limited seating indoors. all, he wasn't going to support the outdoor dining ban. So we left our outdoor dining

completely wide open. We still had limited seating indoors. So it's not as if we were completely giving the middle finger to the authorities. But what we decided to do at that point was I was getting so much attention and I had so many issues with the team members from other restaurants that were fired. I said, look, we're not going to grift off of this. Why don't we start a fund to raise money for struggling and out of work restaurant workers? And we will then, you know, we'll pay off their rent thousand dollars per person. We figured we'd raise like $10,000 and that would be it. Well, this thing just absolutely blew up. We ended up raising over a half a million dollars and distributing it in $1,000 checks to people across the entire country. That's amazing.

Yeah. And anybody who's a regular viewer of this stream and podcast, or if you are not, do check out Paul Alexander, where he describes the social distancing policies and how they were arrived at. Complete fallacy, completely just drew a number out of the hat. No evidence whatsoever that the distancing you did indoors in your restaurant does a goddamn thing because there was no science around that. How about the plastic things in between?

Made things worse, made things worse. So six feet saves lives. I still see that in doctor's offices. There is zero evidence of that. Six feet, at the time in Washington, they. There is zero evidence of that. Six feet. At the time in Washington, they were trying to decide between three feet and 60 feet. And they just arbitrarily picked six feet, not because there was any evidence of benefit, because they figured they could get people to comply. And so let's just do something. Just do something. I've said this over

and over and over again throughout this pandemic. Just do something is how doctors harm patients. Just do something. And they did so. And we're in the midst of the mental health crisis right now that is really burgeoning i don't know if people know how bad it is it's bad and you know i don't know why we can't talk about that and the direct consequence of the lockdown and yet there are still people talking about lockdowns talking talking about future lockdowns, including the World Health Organization, who wants fiat authority. Are you aware of this? Yeah. Over all sovereign elected officials to be able to do whatever they wish in the next, quote, emergency.

And by the way, in their One Health initiative, all environments and all plants and animals have equivalent importance and valence to the human being. That's their other policy feature, their policy. Let's see how that one goes. That should be awesome. But we're going to take a break and we come back. I want to talk about the world economic forum and their plan for bugs and

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Before the Gottfeld show today, we all thought Greg was dead. He's alive, so let me start with that. But we filmed the show. He's usually there at like 11. At 12 o'clock, he still hadn't shown up. And no one had heard from him. Nobody had heard from him.

We're calling him. Which is uncanny for Greg. Very unlike him. If there's any issue, he's going to be like 11 at 12 o'clock. He still hasn't shown up and nobody had heard from him. We're calling him, which is uncanny for very unlike him. He's if there's any issue, he's going to be a little late to work. He texts somebody right away. Nobody could hear from him. So my friend Keith, who helps take care of his dog was the only other one with a key.

So we sent his assistant down there and they're like, what is she going to do? She can't get into his house. So he sent Keith in there and we're all, I'm freaking out. Like we haven't heard from him for hours at this point. I'm like, he's dead. Like everybody thinks he's dead. gonna do she can't get into his house so he sent keith in there and we're all i'm freaking out like we haven't heard from him for hours at this point i'm like he's dead like everybody thinks he's dead the mood on the floor was very very weird that day today and um he's like greg greg no answers

we think keith keith when he walks in he's expecting to walk into a crime scene the dog is running around like the dog pooped on the floor he's thinking he's thinking he's gonna find a dead body and then all of a sudden he hears greg going help me help me so he thinks that he's walked into an act of murder obviously like he's bleeding on the floor yeah or like he's tied up in a chair the guy's still there now he's gonna get killed oh no what had happened is that his doorknob yeah he didn't have a doorknob he he needed to get it fixed, but he ran upstairs for something and the door closed and he had locked himself into his room.

Okay, well, that's trauma. And by the way, before Susan... No phone. Before Susan, right. No phone, no laptop. You need to, that's why I... I'm getting a life alert for Christmas. No, the iWatch, whatever.

Apple Watch. Apple Watch, yeah. You want to get that? Yeah, I think I need one too. You can get locked in a bathroom too. I do. Before we tell Susan... I have a friend with a house like that? Yeah, I think I need one too. Before we tell Susan. I have a friend with a house like that.

I just don't close the door anymore. We are going to take some calls after I bring Doug. I had the same kind of weird New York vibe today. Like living in New York is such an interesting thing. So I had to move out of a place that we sold in the Upper West Side. And I have this big headboard. And I know it's huge, like 10 feet long. Right. And I was going to ship it back from my son. Cause it's kind of cool. And you know, and I've got these

two workers and then they're all day and they go, okay, it doesn't fit in the elevator. And they go, this is going to be the last thing we take out. So they, so they literally like, like, um, can you turn the volume down on that, honey? They literally started down the stairway, 17 floors. They got to the 15th floor and it wouldn't make the 16th corner. And they're down there sweating. There's no air conditioning. And there are these two big, you know, Puerto Rican guys. Well, he's a man and a son.

Hi, Eric and Derek. I love you from Verified Van Lines. Verified Van Lines. Verified Van Lines. They're from Jersey. Good guys. Shout out. Anyways, so they get down to the bottom and they won't give up. And I'm like, well, we're going to have to saw it in half or something.

But it's stuck. It's stuck on this thing. And they literally had to jump on two pieces of plywood and crack it in half. And I was like, if there was a a fire i would want you on my team because he could have broken into greg's door no problem i or out of it this guy had hands they were just like hitting it oh my god by the time we got at the bottom i did not give a shit about that stupid piece of you know furniture i was just like thank god you got out of the hallway. Because we have handicapped people on the second floor.

And they have been stuck. They couldn't leave it in there and then have it disassembled. And I don't know. I'm just so glad to get rid of it. And also that apartment. So anyways. Cheers. I'm not even with Greg.

My thoughts and prayers go out to Greg. Because being trapped. She came back and she was like, oh, her eyes were like too big. Being trapped in a room for three hours. He was yelling help out of the window and I guess just nobody cared. Nobody cared. New York City. Greg, we love you.

Whatever, help me. We'll see him on Monday. We'll take him out. The book is, you can't joke about that. You're going to hold it up. There it is. You can't joke about that. Get that book. Read it. It you can't joke about that get that book read it it's hysterical it's fantastic it'll help you with your trauma it will help you with your trauma there is a full screen so you can put it down now

you can follow cat at therealcattimp.com also on twitter cat twimp and our guest chef gruels on twitter is chef gruel g-r-u-e-l we will be taking some calls at some point here so i see some hands up i will call you up to the platform at some point here. So I see some hands up. I will call you up to the platform at some point and you'll be streaming on multiple sources, multiple sites if I do pull you up there. So bugs, W-E-F and bugs and burgers. What's going on there? Why do they want us to eat bugs so badly?

Well, they want us to eat bugs because they claim that all of the protein that's in our diet right now from, you know, effectively commercially cost seafood, but more specifically land-based, uh, cattle, chickens are producing carbon and methane, which is hurting the environment. So bugs are the better answer because they can be farm raised in a real close contained environment and it's better for the environment. I think that this is really about just creating two different sectors of our economy and our society. One sector that eats bugs and they're just the little plebeians.

And then of course you have the elites that can continue to eat their steaks all under the guise of climate change and environmental control. Oh, interesting. So what I literally, you know, I'm supposed to be someone that understands these things and I don't understand what makes somebody want to tell other people how to live their lives. Kat, I don't get it. Yeah, I have enough trouble making decisions for my own life. That's plenty of stress there.

Right. And by the same token, I'm equally as mystified by people that like to take directions from somebody who's making the decisions from on high. And by the way, this whole experience, you know, COVID did us a lot of favors. And one of the things it did was show us that there are glitches in our constitution when there are health emergencies, that they grant complete fiat authority to the public health officials who do not know how to handle it are not properly trained for this are not in a position to make clearly not in a position to make these kind of risk award decisions some of them aren't many of them aren't even physicians

most of those that are are pediatricians or should not be making decisions about adult medicine. And so, my goodness, is there anything we should be doing about that? Do either of you have an opinion about that? I mean, I think the problem is that nobody really seemed to learn from it. There was no consequences for any of the people that messed all this up. And there's been no real contrition towards any of the people who really suffered real loss from this thing. And I think there's been no questioning of the government, even still with something like this. I think we got to break out of that binary thinking where no matter what your team does,

instead of confronting it, you just say, okay, well, but look at how bad this thing the other team did was. Because that is how the government gets so much power is that it turns us against each other. And then we sort of just explain away anything. And that allows for corruption because there's not all us. The people are not going to speak out against it. We're more concerned about the team. Yeah. And, you know, from a, from a business owner's perspective and specifically a restaurant,

which obviously deals with the public day in and day out, I think that number one, there's kind of this diffusion of responsibility that exists in government where it's not one person's decision. They can obviously filter it across this massive bureaucracy and then there's no responsibility on their shoulders. But number two, what I noticed through the pandemic is that we created policies internally that were actually better and healthier than anything that the government was telling us to do. For example, us specifically, we didn't have a single case of COVID in any of our restaurants because we gave unlimited time off, paid time off to our team members so that they didn't feel the need to come in and work. And they were extra careful and had the government said, look, we're

going to give you these stipends and give you this money because we drove a Mack truck through your business and stay home when you need to stay home. But they were telling everybody, don't open your business, but then they didn't provide any of the financial safety net. And the same thing occurs day in and day out in the restaurant industry. The health department actually creates policies which are worse for the health environment. Typically, every decision that they make, they end up overturning because they create more risky situations. So businesses can manage it for themselves and individuals can manage it for themselves. We don't need the government because they're making horrible decisions. You see it in environmental policy. Yeah. Almost as if you know your own

business better than some random bureaucrat with an agenda. Almost like that. How dare you? Well, he's a greedy businessman. But yeah, I find it right. It's just uncanny to me. I heard Mark Andreessen on Lex Friedman's podcast recently, and he was talking about what he's reading. And I immediately ran out and got the books because one was the ancient city about how tribal we've been and how,

where that came from and how profoundly trouble we were at one time before cities developed and a biography on Lennon, something I did not plan to read at this point in my life, you know what I mean? And yet it has great relevance to the present moment. And that is, that is sad and disgusting in this country. And it's kind of like we went through i i look millions of people died and lives were upended and businesses were ruined and families were translocated and there's huge mental health consequences

how is that different than a war how is it different it's like it's like an entire generation has gone through the equivalent of a war that was unnecessary. Well, you could argue they're always unnecessarily. A lot of them. That's your sort of position. A lot of them. But this one was self-created. You know, every year in African countries, 3 million people die because of the effects of cooking in a hut, right? And the fact that they're burning coal still to cook in these huts if you could actually give every single one of these people a small butane burner to cook it

would decrease the air pollution in those huts and it would save millions of lives why don't we hear about that every single day but people die during covid chef chef chef no no no that would cause asthma we'd have asthma then because it's a gas butane. No, no, we can't have any gas stove. No, no, no. How dare you? How dare you? That's the insanity of all this. That's the, you cannot make, listen, there's a reason free markets are superior to centralized authority and manage economies. The same thing is true of everything in life.

Yeah. You can't centralize medicine. You can't centralize medicine. You can't centralize family systems. You can't centralize any of this stuff because they make terrible decisions for most people in the name of some ideological notion. That's going to be the best for everybody that of course never is ever human history is replete with this and ideological notion that they've decided ahead of time. Right. So they've already made the decision. So then they just cherry pick and look for certain things that sort of validate that because that staying true to that is more important than the truth. Well, communist plot. How dare you? I'm convinced that

we're living in a comedy because the fact that I actually have to talk about the gas stove debate and nobody realizes that if we actually electrified everything and we didn't have gas stoves, by their very metrics, we would be producing two times the amount of pollution. Because guess where electricity comes from? Fossil fuels. Yeah. Right. Yes, of course. China.

What's even worse, however, though, is that because of their mandates on the cars in California, there will be no electricity for your stove. So you'll be burning wood. That's way worse. So, oh my goodness. Ashley, just unmute your mic in the left-hand corner there down at the bottom, and you can ask your question. Hopefully our system works. Go ahead.

Hello. Hey there. Can you hear me? Yeah, we do. Okay. It's kind of off topic, I just posted the question. It's about DIPG cancers. Have you seen an increase in that or anybody talking about that?

My niece was diagnosed with that rare cancer and she was vaccinated. And I know there's, you know, I'm not saying that the vaccine is causing that. I just, I'm just curious to see if there is an increase in that type of cancer. She did catch COVID about three months before she was diagnosed. And I've heard stuff about the blood-brain barrier and things like that. So I was just curious. And I know I should probably ask. So we don't know, of course, what's COVID, what's vaccine,

what's vaccine plus COVID, what's none of the above. They are certainly seeing excess mortality overall. I don't know if you you did you hear about this new Danish study that showed that it's a very well done study by a fine team out of Denmark that could not get this published because you're not dare to talk about anything deleterious when it when it comes to vaccine therapies, that particular vaccine therapy, turns out that there's differences amongst the batches, something that the people that have been experiencing some of these adverse events have been sort of implying for quite some

time. But this particular Denmark study showed that 4% of the batches had 70% of the adverse events. Now, of course, they and they also looked at the make sure that they weren't just all, you know, all 30 year olds are all seven year olds that were getting these particular batches, they were widely distributed. So it was strictly these particular batches, they were widely distributed. So it was, strictly speaking, those batches. And whether or not those sorts of adverse events are going to be associated down the road with cancers is going to be very difficult to ferret out.

So the answer is there are an increase in some cancers, but they've been blaming it on lockdowns thus far, I would say. Either of you have an opinion about that? I think that it should not be as difficult to have these conversations and get different information as it kind of is with certain studies coming out, because what you end up with is not just being able to find out about what's going on now. You also have a complete lack of trust in any source of information ever at this point. Well, you should, you should be very skeptical right now. The medical journals have been adulterated. That particular Danish study I told you about wouldn't,

was rejected by the New England Journal, JAMA and the Archives of Internal Medicine within hours, rather than being sent to peer review. So I can't even read it in hours. Exactly right. They just said vaccine, go away. And look, I don't know that this is so, but RFK has raised this question because something like 70 to 90% of the journal revenue comes from the pharmaceutical companies.

Could that be why they're so biased? I don't know, but it certainly looks bad. And RFK has said that his first order of business is going to be to call in the three majors, which is JAMA, New England Journal, and I forget who the third one was. It was Annals or something, and say, you handle this, or I'm going to prosecute you under RICO laws. Because this is a mob. This is a RICO situation where they are preventing the usual back and forth.

I could tell that there was something wrong with the literature because it all only went one direction. And medical literature always goes back and forth until we can kind of reach a consensus of what we're dealing with. And that takes time. And it usually fits the clinical situations that we're seeing as well. None of that was true. It was just one direction and one direction only and still is going that way too though there are some as i pointed out there are some courageous journals like uh my favorite annals of internal medicine we're beginning to ask questions and show show articles that aren't consistent with the with

the narrative at large let me get one more uh question up here real quick. This is Fox and Friends. Yes, I know. Okay, unmute that mic and we're good to go. And there's all kinds of, you know, Twitter speeches has all kinds of weird little glitches in it. And that's one of them. Can you hear me now? Yeah, hey.

First of all, congratulations on the book there cat that's cool um i wanted to talk to you uh yeah i i haven't gotten it yet but i i intend to be uh dr june would you consider yourself a boomer oh for sure for sure look at him i don't want to make i don't want to make assumptions about your age. No, but you know what, though? Yeah, well, I'm almost 65. But the... We're on the tail end. Yeah, we're on the tail end of the boomers, which is kind of an interesting place to be.

We always saw, you know, people that live on the cusp or born on the cusp of these generational changes, you sort of see things from both perspectives. And I remember when I was in high school, the class ahead of us the teachers would all go oh that was the last class of the 60s it was these you guys are the 70s and 80s which was the next generation really so why why do you ask well because i see that so my parents are boomers and i watched the way that they handled COVID and I saw an evolution in you in the way

you perceived the world that's opened you up to talking about some of the craziest stuff like I'm Gen X I grew up with you and Adam on you know MTV or wherever it was Comedy Central um so I watched and marveled at it but I saw most of the boomers in the world that I know completely buy into this crap and, and almost bigger, like so vigorously, like the one you're talking about where it's like, oh yeah, you got a 50% chance of dying if you get COVID. Like it was insane to me how gullible these people were. Yes. Well, guess what? The reason is we came from a time when we trusted authority and trusted publications and believed the press. And COVID opened a lot of people's eyes a bit. I certainly did mine.

Like I told, we had dinner with Tom Segura last night and Tim Dillon. And Tom was asking me a lot of questions about what to trust and not to trust. And he goes, would you contemplate? He threw sort of what I would have previously considered a conspiracy theory at me. And I said, no, I don't, I don't believe that's true, but I'm listening. I'm listening. And in the past I would have been just very dismissive.

Now I'm like, no, no, I am listening. And, um, you know, there was a thing going around today where again, when I apologized to Naomi Wolf, I signed going around on social media again today, I had dismissed her reports of menstrual regularities after a vaccine therapy, and now I've seen a shit ton of it and it had been reported in some literature that was, but that was marginalized and then just today I saw another publication saying there's no, there's no evidence of any effect on the women's menses.

That's false. There it's, it does not fit the clinical situation and so i apologize i i'm finding myself apologizing all the time now where's the media she's sitting next to me yeah if i i'm i'm not the media you're not no but i want to know what you think i honestly think that fear is a very effective tool for government and i also think that it gets people very effective tool for government and i also think that it gets people to pay attention in the media gets money so whenever i hear you you know whether it's like patriot act you know this is to keep you safe yeah this is to keep you safe whether it's for patriarch whether it's pandemic whether it's you know some of this new stuff going on with the bill to quote unquote-unquote banned TikTok,

which really would just could easily destroy free speech on the internet, all of these different things, whenever I see someone trying to make me afraid, I ask myself first what's in it for them if I am. And I also have a corollary to that, which at the moment when somebody gets silenced, I figure they have something to say now. Now I figure there's, it may not be, I may not agree with everything they say, but I figure they have something to say. Otherwise, why the vigor? Why everybody? And by the way, the playbook for during the, during the lockdown and pandemic was to pay people of highest academic and

professional standing and crush them for having that. Those are the guys you should be listening to when they have alternative opinions. Not that they have to be right, but you have to listen. Chef, have you been sort of, you know, the last time we let you speak, which was a few minutes ago, you told us a story about how the customer world was coming around to support you. Has the profession and the restaurant business and other people in and around your world equally stepped in now? You know, sadly, no. So I think that some people's eyes were opened, but then they immediately went back into their corners,

back to the tribalization of politics in America. And I had people through the pandemic writing me privately saying, "'Thank you so much for everything you did. "'Thank you so much for speaking out unfortunately I couldn't because then it would have affected my family and my livelihood etc now those same people are you know back in their corners and to them it's modus apparandum everything is is normal but I think that that just goes to show you

that everybody kind of gets back in their corners because there's a certain comfort level there the people who are going to trust the institutions want to believe that. You don't even understand how many people come into the restaurant, have me come to the table on the table side and make the decision for them as to what they're going to eat for dinner. They don't even want to make those decisions. And I know that's kind of a cliche relationship style joke. What are we going to have for dinner tonight? And then it takes 50 chances to actually get there. They end up microwaving, you know, pizza pockets pockets but people don't want to make decisions they want to be told what to do they want to be told what to believe um and you know that to me is the scary thing because that's a deep fundamental problem right now that doesn't

necessarily reconcile with what we are which is a constitutional republic that relies on liberty and our own free think. Yes. So what do we do? I mean, you're putting your finger on something profound. So is there an education other than discourse? Is there an answer? Well, to me, obviously, I'm always going to tell you food is the great unifier. I think that you need to come up with methods or mediums of communication that everybody understands. Part of the reason that we were able to get manipulated is because we didn't understand the higher education related to immunology and COVID and science.

Now, I joke about food because I'm being selfish, but when I try and explain the libertarian perspective to people, and I use this idea about buying raw milk cheese or local farms or growing food in your own backyard, I say to everybody across the political spectrum, wouldn't you want to do that? They're like, of course I would. I want to support my local farmers. What do you mean I can't get raw milk cheese in the United States? When I explain to them that the government is preventing us from doing that and that

it's actually an intrusion, not just in our liberties, but our health, they say, that's really interesting. I've kind of always been on the side of the government, but now I need to think about that. So if we can break it down into, you know, conversations that people understand in their everyday life, I think it opens up their eyes a little bit more. Yeah. And speaking of conversation, I mean, my book talks about this a lot. I think people are afraid of making decisions in terms of what they'll listen to or what they'll talk about because the consequences for just saying the wrong thing, asking the wrong question, intent doesn't matter anymore. Even if it was accidentally or even if you were trying to learn can be completely just, you're not allowed in the

public square anymore now.'s terrible yeah it's really ridiculous you know i brought i haven't brought this up in a few months but i used to always bring it up which is that uh democracy in america written by a frenchman in 1825 by named alexis de talkville he said we have the he was he had lots of very profound insights into the american system and one of the things he noticed was we have the most explicit and free-ranging freedoms of speech uh prescribed by the law but he then went on to say but the reality of it in the public square is you have some of the most limited free speech because people will ostracize come after you whatever uh and little did we know we would build a public square like social media where this is like full on in full display.

I guess more conversation, more awareness, more discussion about the founding principles. But I never thought words freedom and courage would come out of my mouth so frequently as recently. Yeah. You say you're welcome. But how did you get to libertarianism is that something that happened to you like in college because i've been writing about it a long time did something specific turn you no i mean so my dad is is pretty libertarian i've always been libertarian i think that it's just the fundamental view and i think one of the

the main misconceptions about libertarians is that you don't care about certain problems in society. That's just you. And no, not caring is not the same as not believing that the government is the best way to solve it. That's right. Especially when you take into account what you're giving up if you let the government enter that realm. There's been so many examples of things where the government says, okay, this is for this emergency, right? And then a Patriot Act is the example that I often go to, because everybody remembers hearing that. Everybody remembers hearing this is to keep us safe. And now it's obviously still there and is being used in so many other ways, which people like me

and people were warning about. Once you give the government a little in, then they're able to use it for whatever they want. They don't give up power once you've given it to them. There are so many things that have just, so many things that have opened my eyes recently. And by the way, I think we all should really hold the people accountable for the egregious outlying behaviors. Like if any of you work at the SoFi Stadium in Los Angeles, your operations manager, I think he's called,

this guy was, he sounded like some sort of concentration camp commandant. He's like, we're on to you. Don't buy a popcorn and nurse it for three hours. Take your mask off and put it back on. Outdoor in a stadium. By the way, fast forward, the next day is the Super Bowl. And there's Magic Johnson with Governor Newsom with their masks off,

partying in the indoor rooms, in the suites. And so, come on, you guys. They don't care about people. They care about points. But they got into it. They got into it. I want to know i want to know more about who who got off on this we should be very skeptical people who

liked telling you how to live your life uh it was something you know i often got accused of because i was someone who helping people stop doing drugs who needed help stopping not because i thought drugs were bad or i should nobody should do drugs i was helping people that needed help but just the the idea that you would be telling somebody how to you know live their life was met with constant acrimony and now those are the same people that either were the ones telling people how to live their life or were enjoying listening to those people which i step up everybody if you made a mistake say it that now's the time i think i think as you said accountability apologies reassessments conversation i think that's the way to do this has anybody apologized to you chef grul? You know, I've had a few customers who have come back

and said, you know, I don't fully agree with your stance. However, watching the way in which you helped so many people brought me back to you. And then I ultimately realized that you were doing a better job than the government. I mean, keep in mind, the government couldn't send unemployment checks to thousands of people who lost their job

because of their decisions. Within three weeks, we were able to raise over half a million dollars and distribute it in $1,000 checks. This is just me and my wife. We had a three-week-old baby. We called every single person to do a background check on them because there was a lot of scammers. Three, four o'clock in the morning Christmas Eve I was driving around with my three kids in the back of the car dropping off checks to landlords to pay people's rent. We were able to do that. We didn't need the government.

And guess what? I'm still being audited because of the GoFundMe money that came in and went back out for my own personal taxes. Of course you are. Horrible. Well, I would put Chefol rule under the category of freedom fighter. Am I saying too much? Yes. Right. Oh, there's your hamburgers. There we go. Where should we go to get your food when to support your businesses? Uh, right now. So, so I ended

up selling my franchise, uh, through right after the pandemic. Um, and we opened one restaurant in Huntington beach called Calico fish house. It's right on the coast on Pacific coast highway. We do have a pizza joint as well. It's a, it's a nonprofit where we give pizza away to veterans and those people in need that's in Tustin. So you know, come on down to Calico fish house, right on Pacific coast highway in sunset beach. So Susan's from Newport. So this is all our territory down there. So we'll get, we'll have to go. Yeah. We all our territory down there so we'll get to go yeah we'll go on down there and support but chef cruel thank you for joining us I appreciate I saw you talking on another pod I thought I got

to talk to this guy it just it's just it's such a it's just a historic story about what was happening on the ground you know that people make light of what what went on it was profound it was profound and and to sort of not remember it's you know it's almost like 9-11 or other things you have to bring these things into consciousness and figure out ways to you know never again this is one of those things thank you so much for having me I appreciate it it's. Kat, can't wait to read your book and hopefully we'll do this again soon.

Thank you. I love it. Thanks, Andrew. Appreciate it. Susan, from your standpoint, I know you have lots of thoughts in this area. No, I'm good. I think you guys hit all the points. I love Kat. I love Kat. I love you. Yeah. Just putting up on screen right now, these are Kat's upcoming tour dates. Oh, yeah.

Tell them. Yeah, I'm going to be in North Carolina next weekend. I'm going to be in Clayton on the 15th. I'm going to be in Charlotte on the 16th. And then I'm going to Ohio. I'm going to be in Cincinnati on the 5th. Columbus. Yeah, in Columbus on the 6th. And many more to be announced.

Does Cam go with you when you do those things? He does, yeah. Oh, fine. Yes. And all my love to Greg Gutfeld and his perfect day. Does he know that you're telling people? He said I could. Okay, so everybody go tell Greg that we're glad he's alive.

I mean, it could have been a very different day. I would have had to cancel. Isn't that weird? I would have just probably i mean you can't make it greg's dead and then i would have gone dark is everybody just like oh my god the vibe on the floor was weird everybody was like did you hear greg i mean everybody i mean because you don't not hear from the guy for three hours on a workday it's just it's just not something that happens forget a workday it seems like he communicates with everybody all the time at least his dog pictures are being put out yes exactly exactly right he wasn't having any he wasn't having fun or anything so no he was just locked in a room oh my god and he's like he's so fastidious about his workday like exactly he's

always on time that's what he said he's like good thing i'm so predictable if i'm a little late people are like is is everything okay? Because you've done the show, you see how if we're one minute past our time, the whole world melts down. Oh yeah, he does not like that. He's in the car early. He walks in and things gotta go.

Hey, I'm looking at our restream chats and rumble rants and they've been on fire. A lot of great comments here, but one is a concerted cry for you to come visit Las Vegas. Do you have any dates planned? I don't, but maybe I will. I could do a Las Vegas residency. We're going to Skank Fest in September.

Excellent. So maybe you should do it then. Yes, Tom Cigars. I've covered that so many times. I'm tired of it, but I'm happy to do it again if we ever really need to. Again, people learn nothing else but then what you read in the press and what people say about you is not the truth that I hope we learned that during

COVID it just the press create, they spin yarns that have nothing or very loosely connected with the facts more often than not, and you have no time that you learn that more vividly than if the stories are about you. I'm sure you've been through this too. Boy, I've had some where they take one little thing you say and they say you were talking about something completely different and then everyone's yelling at you. It is disgusting and it is time that the consumers uh rose up and don't

tolerate that and also don't listen to it and don't consume it and then it will stop not until then so so uh molten salt just called you cat a spicy jalapeno i'll take it as a polish woman i'm not called that all that often are Are there jalapenos in Poland? No, I don't think so. Because the food is very bland. I love it. You know what, though? It's so funny you would say that.

I just watched the other chef that walks around the world and is now no longer with us. Anthony Bourdain. Anthony Bourdain went to Warsaw, and he was very snooty about Polish food, and he found wonderful meats and cheeses and really high-level... Yeah, it's a little bland.

No, no, it isn't. No, not the meats and cheeses, but the sausages. That's the conceit, but it really apparently has a lot going on there, and he just started gushing about how much he liked the food there. He needs to go to the Czech Republic. Czech check republican he already is a fan of all right

we've been rambling enough we're gonna speaking of food it's time to eat out here in this part of the world i know we're gonna go out uh kat thank you for being here as always oh thanks for having me i'll see you on monday at gutfeld and hopefully greg will be alive by then too coming guys dennis rancourt in here with Kelly Victory next week. Mark McDonald is scheduled for July 13th. Time of day is yet to be determined for sure. Michael Yadin on the 19th. Steve Kirsch on the 20th. We've got some

debates and some summits kind of we're working on and some timelines with Tom Renz, who wants to do a show for you where he puts together all the evidence he has of this. You would love this. Of the extraordinary transgressions during COVID FOIA documented and put a timeline together to see how everything fits together. I think I know about 70% of it,

but I look forward to something like that. So until it's Friday, we'll see you on help me everybody. It's Tuesday, right? We're going to be next. I don't know about your life. Sorry.

You're going to be on Gutfeld on Monday. So you're going to be here on Tuesday, Wednesday, and then We're going to be next? I don't know about your life like that. You're going to be on Gutfeld on Monday. You're going to be here on Tuesday. And then we're going to go buy Gutfeld dinner and thank him for being here. I might get him a doorknob. Just take Jeff on Rumble Sid. I am going to get him a life alert.

You can teach him how to take the hinges off next time. That's all he had to do. I know, but you need to have a screwdriver. Yeah, his building's old. I don't know. Maybe Jeff can go move in with him. We appreciate you guys spending time with us.

Thank you, Chef Grewal, for doing so as well. And we will see you on Tuesday with Mark McDonald. That is our plan. Check the time. We're zeroing in because I have to travel that day. So hopefully we will get that pulled off soon enough. See you then. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky.

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