Ask Dr. Drew - Comedian Trump Impersonator Targeted By Swatting Attack, Guns Drawn In Front Of Family w/ Shawn Farash & Viva Frei – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 474

Episode Date: April 12, 2025

Violent leftist anarchists are launching “swatting” attacks in an attempt to murder their ideological enemies, targeting powerful political figures like *checks notes* comedians and podcasters. On March 13, Shawn Farash (a Donald Trump impersonator) was the latest target. After an anonymous 911 call falsely claimed that a violent incident was occurring at Shawn’s home, a heavily-armed SWAT team arrived ready to face a hostage situation that didn’t actually exist – putting everyone involved in perilous danger. Shawn Farash, known as Captain Deplorable, is a constitutional conservative and host of UNGOVERNED on LFA TV, streamed via Rumble. A Trump impersonator, he was swatted in March during a wave of incidents targeting conservative creators. More at https://x.com/shawn_farash and https://farashmedia.com David Freiheit, aka Viva Frei, is an attorney and hosts the popular Viva Frei show on Rumble, Locals.com, and YouTube. He co-hosts Viva & Barnes Live on VivaBarnes.Locals.com. More at https://x.com/thevivafrei and https://vivafrei.com 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors  • ACTIVE SKIN REPAIR - Repair skin faster with more of the molecule your body creates naturally! Hypochlorous (HOCl) is produced by white blood cells to support healing – and no sting. Get 20% off at https://drdrew.com/skinrepair • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

And Viva Fry will stop by in a few minutes. He's going to give us an update amongst other things about what's going on in Canada and some of his thoughts about tariffs. In the meantime, I was talking to we'll be speaking with Sean Frosh. He is known as Captain Deplorable. He's a host of Ungoverned on LFATV streamed on rumble. And he's a Trump impersonator and he was swatted in March during a wave of these incidents when it really,

I mean, these are potentially, I mean, literally they're attempted murder in a strange way. I wanna get more into the detail of what makes people think that this is okay that we live in a world when this is possible. Sean, can we be followed on X Sean sh aw n underscore f ar a sh and we can find him on frosh media.com be right back with Sean after this Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre

Psychopaths start this way he was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin, ridiculous, I'm a doctor for, where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals.

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but I wanna get into a bunch of stuff with Sean. Let's start with the swatting, Sean, welcome. Hey, thanks for having me, I really appreciate it. What happened? So it was about tomorrow, it'll be four weeks ago, March 13th, I was sleeping. My wife and I just pulled up a bunch of fence posts out of the yard. We just moved into the house about a month and a half ago. And I'd heard about the incidents that were happening to other conservatives around the

country, specifically saw people posting about it on X. I even made a post about it that day, you know, that said the rise of left-wing violence is unacceptable. You have the Tesla situation, people are getting swatted, et cetera, et cetera. And my wife woke me up frantically saying, you know, Sean, there's cops in our yard with guns. And I sat straight up and I said,

okay, we're being swatted. And she didn't know what that meant. I had heard about it. I've heard it happen to other voices, people in media, politicians have had it happen to them. And we've heard stories about, you know, in the gaming community, this has happened to several people in the gaming community too. I don't do that. I don't even have a game console that'll connect to the internet. But I knew what was going on when she woke me up and I sat up, but she didn't know what that meant. I said, we just got to sit down and wait for instructions. It was terrifying in a way because I practice gun safety. I like firing guns. I'm a big Second

Amendment enthusiast, right? You don't point the barrel of a gun at something you don't intend to shoot So I knew that if I'd given them a reason to pull the trigger it very well may be pulled So we sat we you know, we stayed calm I received a call from the sheriff's department and they told me that they got a bizarre 911 call my address They said that I had murdered both of my parents and that I was prepared to commit suicide by cop. And I told them on the phone, I said, look, that's not true.

And I'm willing to demonstrate whatever I have to do to show you that that's not the case. So you tell me what you want us to do, we'll do it and get this resolved and then talk about next steps. And that's how it went. We came out of the house with our hands up. The guns were drawn at us, you know? And by the way, the police who were involved with this

were very professional. Absolutely, they were deliberate. They were clear, they were calm. That's what you need in a situation like that. If you have jumpy people, both the people in the home who are dealing with it and the people outside of the home who want to go home that night, you get a totally different situation.

But they were very calm. We sat down, I explained what I had heard. One of the officers had said to me, is this something that's gonna be on the news? And I laughed, I said, no, it's gonna be on social media, but you'll never see this on the news or much of the mainstream media. And, you know, they thought that was unfortunate.

And they were all upset that their resources and their time were being wasted on what was clearly a false call. I told the officers that were going into the house, I said, the scariest thing you're gonna see in there is a cat who might hiss at you. Just don't shoot her. That's it, you know? And then we figured it out from there.

It was wild though. I just wonder what the police are thinking. Can they do anything to mitigate this stuff? Or it's almost like they just have to follow through because of the seriousness of the allegations. Right. You know, what was explained to me was that they had to show up. They couldn't get a call like that and not show up.

And so they showed up and they showed up in full force. And the scariest thing, you know, not just that us, you know, we sit there and every time this flashing lights outside the house, we're like, Oh, is it happening again? Um, but the neighborhood, this neighborhood that we moved into a month and a half before this happened, it's pretty quiet. It's a neighborhood in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, south of the main city. It's a Republican County, Red County. That doesn't really matter. The politics of it is it's very quiet out here. There's something like this has never happened. There's never been a police presence like that. This neighborhood, the former owner of the home was from what we were

told from everybody on the block, a very nice woman, never had a problem like this. Nobody on the on the block has ever had a problem like this. And so, you know, take take our side of this out of the equation for a minute. There are people who couldn't come home while this was going on the block was shut down And and just recently one of the neighbors son who's a riot. He was running around. He had like an Amazon box on Amazing kid really funny, but we asked them I said, you know, what were you thinking when that was going on? this I wanted to hear what he said and It this this is what really makes me upset.

He said to us that he was hiding under his desk about to cry because he didn't know what was going on. I don't care. You want to come after me. I mean, I prefer you don't, but my goodness, this, this kid who is full of life, I mean, just a bundle of energy, a really nice boy, just, you know, I couldn't imagine the kid that I saw running around, you know, with a box on, having a blast, cowering in fear because some lunatic decided,

let's play a practical joke, you know, on, or they think it's a joke, it's not. Let's call a SWAT team to Sean's house because we don't like what he says on the internet. We don't like who he voted for. So it's more than just the people who are being swatted. The surrounding area too is still feeling the impacts from it over a month, almost a month later. The kid doing his best awesome. Oh, interpret, uh, impersonation speaking of, uh, impersonations.

Uh, do you know, do you know that reference Sean, or do you not watch it? impersonation speaking of impersonations. Do you know, do you know that reference Sean? Are you not watching? I'm not familiar. To be able to do that. Look up awesome. Oh, everybody. You'll see what I'm talking.

But my, but to the point of impersonations, it's interesting to me. And I wonder what you make of this. Whenever there was any ink on the episode, like I'm seeing a headline top Trump impersonator, Sean Frosh, I'm pronouncing your name correctly as a Farage. Am I getting the last name correctly? Oh, it's, it's, it's Farish. And the thing is, it's funny. It looks like Farage probably was pronounced that way. At some point I've been called worse. So I usually just let it

slide, you know? But I want to get it go ahead and pronounce it. Farish, Farish? No, thank you. Farish, yes? Okay. But they hang it on the Trump impersonating. Here's the headline up on the screen right now. Is that what you think motivated these assholes to call this in, or was there something else

that you were saying online or as part of your program that got to them, do you think? Yeah, I'm not so sure it's the impersonation of Donald Trump that got them upset. That's what, you know, essentially brought a lot of eyeballs to my pages a few years ago. But I've been able to branch it out beyond, you know, beyond that. I think it's it's overall because there are other people who impersonate Trump and don't get swatted. Right. I mean, Shane Gillis does a great job.

He doesn't get swatted, right? I haven't heard him get swatted. He's got a much bigger platform than I do. I happen to do it better than he does, but that's okay. He's a good guy. I would love to go ahead and do a Trump Off-Week, be fun. I think Shane is wildly-

Get to our guys and kill Tony together. Yeah, that's right. I think he's wildly hilarious by the way. But I think it was more than just impersonating Trump. I think the reason why that was used in a lot of the headlines is that's, well, that's how a lot of people know me. That's how a lot of people will associate my name

to what I do and where to find me and whatnot. But I think it's far beyond that. I think it's far beyond that. I think it's far beyond that. I think it's more about being active and encouraging people to join the movement, to join up with MAGA, so to speak, to participate in elections, to push back against some of this left-wing insanity

that we see out there, whether it's men and women's sports or all sorts of crazy, the border, you know, any of that, or just supporter and being vocal about it. I used to live in New York. So you know, having a Trump bumper sticker on my truck was basically, you know, a license to have something thrown at it at any point in time. I was on Long Island.

It's a more, you know, Republican area of New York than New York City But there's crazy people there screw you have to be crazy to live on Long Island with the traffic So there's a lot of crazy people that are over there I don't think it was just the the impersonating bit that got them to do this I think it was that you know, I talked about it earlier in the day I have a platform on X. I use it a lot, a pretty good presence there. And I think they saw, you know, that my wife and I online talk about, you know,

we just bought a house, this, that, easy to find with public tax records. And they did what they did and I hope they get caught. I can tell you that people love, I'm looking at the chat here, like make him do his Trump voice. Did he talk to the cops in his Trump voice? They seem to love your impersonation. So thank you for that.

Thank you. Well, I didn't talk to them like Trump, but for the people in the chat and you're all beautiful people, I have to say that, you know, a lot of beautiful people, tremendous people really, when you look at it and Dr. Drew is a great doctor, by the way, we love him a lot more than Anthony Fauci, right? Bad guy. Dr. Drew's a great guy and a handsome guy. Believe me. I think he would kill Shane. I think, I think he would knock him out of the first position and kill Tony. But I want to dovetail a couple of thoughts I have as it pertains to these, the swatting. And I'm super moderate, so I'm just trying to look at all sides of these things.

But one of the things that I've noticed is that people leaning left seem to be apoplectic about Putin. And when you ask them, what is it? I mean, now we have the New York Times on the record saying, I think it was New York Times today, saying that indeed NATO did provoke this thing. Ukraine isn't such a great place and neither is their leader, leader is Zelensky.

And really calling into question the narratives that have been forced down everybody's throat. Thank you, New York Times, for doing your job for the first time in seven or eight years, but a different issue. But then you go, if you say to them, well, you know, he was provoked. Let's say you get them, New York Times says he was provoked.

Do you agree with that? Okay, let's say he was provoked. Then they would say, but he kills his enemies. He does away with his enemies. Anybody that stands up to him is disappeared. And I started thinking, how is that different than lawfare and cancel culture and swatting? It's the same freaking thing.

It's just without a bullet, but it's the same thing. It's putting your opponents away in some violent manner. Do you agree? Absolutely. I'm so happy you brought that up because this has been a revelation, something that I've been thinking about kind of just reflecting on for a while. You know, I've never been a fan of cancel culture, even folks on, you know, on, on the left, on the right, in the middle. If I disagree with you, it doesn't mean I want you taking off the internet. If you're somebody who's making a living commenting on things, and I may passionately disagree with that person, as long as you're not inciting violence, I don't really have a problem with

you, per se. I disagree with your opinion. That's what this country is supposed to be founded on. We could agree to disagree. We can hash it out in debate. And this is why I can't stand cancel culture. I see a lot of people calling for this person to be banned, that person to be banned, this one to be deplatformed, this one to be demonetized.

And I'm like, I'm not so sure that's the right way to go because that's not going to solve all your problems. And that's the point, right? When you have cancel culture, when it first broke out into the scene, the idea was, well, we will deplatform, demonetize, we'll ban, will ban will censor and that'll be the end of it, but that wasn't the end of it You know, I love Star Wars. It's like Obi-Wan Kenobi says if you strike me down I'll become more powerful than you could possibly imagine and a lot of times the people who were banned came back with a vengeance They now have a chip on their shoulder

They're now more powerful than if they would have just been left alone and challenged on their ideas all alone, right? So I don't, I never want to be the reason why somebody is deplatformed and then comes back in the future and is, you know, supremely powerful and just levels me. That's number one. But number two, it's all fruit of, of the poisonous tree of cancel culture, in my opinion. So canceling somebody wasn't enough. So canceling somebody wasn't enough. Deplatforming somebody wasn't enough.

Lawfare wasn't enough. Censorship, shadow bans, et cetera, that's not enough. So what next? Because their problem isn't solved and their problem ultimately lies in they don't like whomever the subject is, whether it's Donald Trump. Take Donald Trump for an example.

They did the lawfare, 2020, a lot of people don't like what happened in that election. A lot of questions about that. You had a state attorneys general, district attorneys throwing ridiculous cases at him. You had the case in Manhattan with E. Jean Carroll. I mean, they specifically changed the statute of limitations that she could bring the case.

Leticia James, fraud with no victims. You've had case after case after case, taken down off social media, demonetized. Banks are going after his supporters. January 6th, you know, the intimidation tactics and all that. And yet Donald Trump still won the primary, pushing himself to be the next president

of the United States. And then someone took a shot at him. And then another guy hid in the bushes and was going to take another shot at him. You know, so it's one of these things where, you know, if, if, when, when the cancellation of somebody ultimately isn't enough and the idea of it not being enough, that's baked in. It's not just about, we want them canceled. It's that you just said it.

They want the person gone. They want them out of the picture. And the only way to get them totally out of the picture is not to erase them from the internet. It's to kill them. I hate to be morbid, but that's where it's gone. And so, you know, maybe 10 years ago, somebody comes out there and sees what I'm saying on the internet says, Oh, you know, we don't like what he says. Let's try and get him banned. Now it's a we don't like what he says. Let's send cops with huge guns to his house so that any wrong move that happens could be the end. And that's the worst part.

I mean, I would never do that to somebody who I just disagree with. Yeah, and it's really at the core of this dividing in the world into good people and bad people. Somehow, as you said, it's just differing opinions, but one side sees opposite of their opinion as a bad people. Somehow, as you said, it's just differing opinions, but one side sees opposite of their opinion as a bad person. You've got to be evil.

There's something wrong with you. You're a Nazi. Here we go. And what's wrong with killing a Nazi? What's wrong with killing Hitler? It's a delusion. I think this whole thing is delusionality. I really do.

I think there's been, before Matthias Desmond coined the term mass formation, I think we have been in a delusional state for the last eight or 10 years. And when people wake up from this, they should be deeply ashamed of exactly what you're done. And by the way, and I saw Dave Rubin on an Instagram post today talking about the cancellation and when he was canceled.

And he said, he said something I've been saying for a long time. I knew there's so much narcissism in our culture that there would be eventually scapegoating. And scapegoating is the way narcissists manage their aggression so they don't tear each other apart. And I kept saying, I kept saying they're going to bring out the guillotines. And Dave Rubin said it today. He said cancellation is the modern beheading.

And I thought, yeah, that is it. We, it's the guillotine. They've been out. But last, the last point on this topic for me is where the hell did even the term de-platforming come from? What does that mean? I mean, I can't talk to somebody in a public, I mean, if I let, let's say I talk to somebody on a radio talk show,

I can't talk to them. If you don't agree with them, think about how insane that is. It's crazy. And I mean, the best thing I used to always love. So let's let's think about I used to be a sports radio. Like I loved it. Live growing up in New York. It's what I wanted to do originally.

And then I got really into politics. I realized that, you know, since I'm a New York Jets fan, every time they lose, I'm upset, but it doesn't really impact how much eggs cost. Right. So I go, all right, let's why don't we focus on the things that actually because if if if New York Jets losing increased the cost of living, then I would have no money because I'm a Jets fan. They don't win ever.

But, you know, you have a radio show like Mike and the Mad Dog back in those two used to butt heads all the time. And that was the best part. Yep. Somebody was right. Somebody was wrong. They were both yelling and screaming at each other. And you got to hear both sides give their opinion. Now it's like echo chamber. If you have this person on, you are bad. Right.

And, you know, one of my favorite commentators, Dan Bongino, you know, he said that that there's there's two ways of thinking. Right. And generally us generally and not everybody because there's trust me There are people I mean on my side and I call them out all the time. I go out. Okay So I disagree with what President Trump said doesn't mean I'm turning my back on him That just means I don't agree with him endorsing a guy that I don't like that's all But but generally the way it is over on the right is I look at somebody on the left with a really bad idea, really bad philosophy, something I really disagree on.

I don't automatically think that's a bad person. I say, that's a person. They have a bad idea. Somebody on the left generally will look at me who says, oh, I like Donald Trump, or I want lower taxes, or I want a lower inflation, or we wanna, you know, let's abolish the IRS, or we want to, you know, let's, uh, let's, let's, let's abolish the IRS or let's have, you know, let's, let's do immigration strength in the border.

They will look at me and go, that's a bad idea because it came out of a bad person's mouth. Right? So I'm not, I'm not just a person with a bad idea in their eyes. I'm a bad person with an idea and therefore my idea is bad. And so they wage war on it and they really do. I mean, they come at you hard. Yeah, it's disappointing.

One of the things I was thinking about people that are on the right is they're still painted with the brush of a Republican party of your long ago. My wife and I were watching this movie a couple nights ago is from 1967. And they were making fun of and showing footage in the movie of old white men with the skinny tie and the horn room glasses at the sort of Rotary Club meetings and stuff. And I looked at these guys and then they were espousing all this ultra conservative stuff, things you've not heard in 30, 40 years, like crazy stuff. And I just sort of recoil like, oh yeah, I remember those guys.

Oh, that's why I was rebelling when I was 17. That was no good. But, but I feel like people like my friend, Bill Maher still paint you with the brush of those guys for siding with the right. You know what I mean? It's almost like there needs to be some sort of PR round is sort of developing what the modern position is for a young person like you, which literally has nothing to do with those guys from 1959. No, it's funny because when you talk about the guys from 1959 or even like these days, right? The folks that are in the Senate, the Chuck Grassleys, right, who have just been there for too long.

I'm sorry, you know, nothing against older people. Well, like my, Mitch McConnell, okay. Mitch McConnell can't stand up. No offense to anybody with a disability. That's not what I'm trying to do. But if a guy who can't walk himself into the chamber, his health has degraded to this condition, how on earth are we tasking somebody like that with the job and the duty and the responsibility of determining the future of our country when he

doesn't know, you know, the future of, you know, what's going to happen after he takes a step too far down the stairs. That's the problem. You know, I'm not, people talk about Republicans as the party of old white males, this, that, and the other. And I mean, it used to look like that, but these, after 24, I mean, you have started to see where the real diversity is. The big tent has become the maybe not Republican Party proper, right, in terms of the RNC, but GOP voters, people who are open to more ideas and including more people, like real inclusion is happening with people that I call my friends. I know folks who are African-American,

who have shown up to left-wing rallies in their MAGA hat and have been ripped to shreds and called every racial slur in the book. I used to organize protests on Long Island. When there would be a counter-protester coming in, I would tell all our people, hey, leave him alone, First Amendment right. He's standing there with a sign, who cares?

It's not about him. Go enjoy the day, right? Let's have a good time. And even then, I would get into it with a couple of them and I would talk to a couple of counter. It was never like racial slurs coming out of my mouth. I mean, there'd be a few four letter words, not many of them were love,

but it was in the heat of the moment. But the deal, everybody has their little slip up here or there, but I mean, some of the moment. I bet the deal everybody has their, you know, little slip up here or there. But I mean, some of the things that they would say to friends of mine who are minorities, they'd be considered are just horrible to the point where like if Trump said something like that, it'd be wall to wall. Every publication, every, you know, mainstream media broadcast at six o'clock on the news would be Donald Trump used this racial slur. And it's just like, it's wild to see it. And I think a lot of people are waking up to it.

I mean, Jasmine Crockett, who's the de facto face of the Democrat party now, just made an example. She thought she was making like a point. I've been saying it for the last couple of months. I was like, you know, you hear about all these illegals that are in the country, you wanna, you know, send them back out of the country because there's laws, you didn't follow them.

And it's like, okay, the excuse has been, oh, if we deport the illegals, who's going to pick our food? And I'm like, that's really no different than like 1860s. If we free the slaves, who's going to pick the cotton? And she just said that she was, I know, we're not going to pick the cotton. We're not going on those farms. And I'm like, holy moly, like you're you're literally the mask is off. Like Scooby Doo, you don't have to pull it. She pulled it off. And it's like, holy moly. Like you're literally, the mask is off. Like Scooby Doo, you don't even have to pull it.

She pulled it off and was like, it's me. Crazy. Crazy. Not only that, let's, you're not in California. Let me, my understanding here in California, which for the majority of the immigrants do the farming, which is here in California, there's actually an exchange program with Mexico

where they are legally brought up here as non-citizens to work and then go home. That is something 85% of the farming here, California. Somebody fact check me on that. That's my understanding. So this whole notion of you're not going to get the farming done is

completely false narrative. It's fake news is all I can tell. Susan, you have your headphones on? Good. I want if you do a little improv with me. She didn't hear your previous Trump and I'd like you, Mr. Trump, to defend your freeze on tariffs today.

What was your thinking there? Why do we go so hard and only to freeze the tariffs today? Well, I have to say this, right? Because you look at the tariffs and we're leveling the playing field, you know, we're leveling the playing field like Chris Christie levels a beach chair. You know, he sits down, it's gone and he has a lot of problems. He's got a big problem. And, you know, Lizzo lost a lot of weight, but the weight that she lost, he found,

apparently. But you look at it and we still have tariffs on Ireland, by the way, because if you didn't hear about it about a month ago, Rosie O'Donnell moved to Ireland. I called Ireland. I said, if you send her back 4,000% tariffs, so we're not going to let it happen. But you look at it. You look at what is going on. You know, we have a problem with China. I spoke to President Xi of China, who looks a lot like Winnie the Pooh and I said to him Winnie we're gonna slap a tariff on every single wonton and egg roll and chopstick that comes into our country we're not gonna let it happen it's not gonna happen for free and we're even gonna slap a tariff on remember Fang Fang that was Eric Swalwell's girlfriend right the Chinese spy the spy who loved

me we slapped a tariff on her too I I call her Chinese Taikat. And Eric Swalwell is very unhappy. He said, now I can't afford fang fang, it's horrible. But we paused the tariffs on the good people. I don't want to get swatted here. I don't want to get swatted, Mr. Trump. Go slow, go easy here, my friend. What's that, Susan, go ahead. That was so good.

Yeah, it's really good, I know. That's why I wanted you to hear it. Oh my goodness, this is why you were swatted. That's what the headlines say. He it. Oh my goodness. This is why you were swatted. That's what the headlines say. He has other strong opinions too. Yeah. I'm sorry that I, you know, I got into the weave, you know, when I do Trump, he does that whole thing where he goes out way out.

I know. He goes all the way. I'm talking about tariffs. I'm talking about wantons. Right. Then he comes back. Right. So.

Frank Frank. But, but to that point about tariffs, I saw, I wonder if you had an opinion about this, I'm going to ask Viva the same question, which is I saw the treasury secretary today talking about the harsh tariff levy to begin with. And again, I see these things fleetingly online and they stay with me and I hope I'm getting them right. This is, why am I blanking on the Treasury Secretary's name? Does it say Desmond?

But it's a- That's Scott. Yeah, Scott. Yeah, Scott. He was saying that this was really always all about China. And it was a giant trap that China walked right into. And now Trump has them where he wants them. I don't know if that's true. I don't know if that's the fact of matter. There still is a 10% tariff going everywhere that people negotiate one direction

or the other. But do you think that this was ultimately all about China? And was it a trap? I don't know if it was all about China the whole time. I think it may have been about, I think China was the big fish and the little fish was fair trade deals, with all these other countries. Cause we weren't in a great position. There were tariffs on us from the 75 plus other countries

that once the United States decided to say, hey, we're going to assert ourselves here. We're going to throw our weight around. You know, you want access to our market. You're getting access to our market for free. We can't have that. I think China was always the big fish. And once China started to retaliate

and Donald Trump decided he was going to ratchet it up and they retaliated again, and then he ratcheted up again. And then you have TikTok, obviously there's a deal that's on pause now because, right? You know, hey, we're not gonna give you this win while you're treating us like this. I think this was a great time, you know, to pull the trigger on a 90-day pause

and essentially align the rest of the world against China, because our biggest problem is the trade issues that we have and the jobs that are being shipped out to China, right? And I think it's very hypocritical for people to criticize, you know, you have Bernie Sanders, $15 an hour minimum wage, he wants to treat the workers fairly. But every time, you know, Donald Trump talks about ratcheting up tariffs with China, he's got a problem with it because, you know, ABCDEFNG, meanwhile, the shoes that he wears are probably

put together by a Vietnamese or a Chinese toddler, right? So it's unfortunate that this type of double standard exists. China exports to us five times more than we export to them. So the tariffs that we're putting on China are going to impact them a lot more than they're going to impact us. I happen to think that Scott Bessent is, uh, I think he is brilliant. Uh, I think he is probably right now to this day, my favorite Trump cabinet pick because of how he has been and just how strong his messaging, how sharp he is.

Um, and I think that, you know, look, the 10% reciprocal that's going on during this 90 day pause, you still generate, you still raise a little bit of revenue off of it. But I do think the ultimate big fish the whole time was China, the little fish was fair trade deals with a number of countries, looks like we're gonna get those. So I think it's a win-win for the administration.

And I see a lot of people on the left kind of scrambling to say, well, he caved, well, didn't you want him? You were just five minutes ago when the stock market was having a problem. Be like, he needs to, he needs to stop. Then he stopped. He caved. So, so, so again, he can't win. Um, you know, I think it was a brilliantly played move. And I do think there was a certain level of, you know, you want to call it chess deception, you know, pre-planning. I think there was a level of that, that took place here considering the players involved. Drew, I listened to a lot deception, you know, pre-planning. I think there was a level of that that took place here, considering the players involved. Drew, I listened to a lot of yes, go ahead. Yeah, no, there, it was the most unexpected headline that popped up on my phone probably about 15 minutes ago,

and it was from CNN and the headline says, US markets have the best day in more than 16 years after Trump pauses most new tariffs. The best ones since what, 2008? I watched it and it went wild in about 90 seconds during the way to turn around. It went completely berserko. And people kind of knew that would happen once he would. That's why they were asking for the pause. I didn't realize now they're saying he caved. I think it's ultimate. It keeps everybody, because you're showing yourself your own stupidity when you talk out of both sides of your mouth like that.

It's interesting, I was listening to a French commentator and he said, it's the art of the deal on a global scale. I thought, ooh, that's kind of what this is. He's predictable in unpredictable ways. If I can throw in one more thing. Yeah, that's exactly what I was saying. It's like Nolan Ryan is one of my favorite baseball pitchers.

He was predictably unpredictable. He didn't want to crowd the plate because he throws 100 miles an hour, but he couldn't locate it. So you had to be real careful. Interesting. Caleb, what's that? So it was just a couple hours before the announcement came out about the tariffs being changed.

Trump actually posted on truth social saying that right now would be this is a great time to buy with three exclamation points. And they said that the people that jumped when they saw that post. That's, oh yeah. That's almost legal. Exactly. They said people make a lot of gains if they jumped on that. Yeah. Wow. Well, that's kind of odd. But okay. Listen, Sean, I appreciate you joining us. I'd love to talk to you some more as we go along here. By the who's captain deplorable? Is that just

a nickname or is there a character there? That was the, that was the name that I used on believe it it or not, TikTok when I first started going viral for the Trump stuff. That was my username. So that's where that came from. I see. Excellent. Well, Captain Deplorable, Sean Farish, wherever you go by, we appreciate you being here. Keep up the good work and we hope to see you again very soon. Thanks very much. Appreciate you having me. soon. Thanks very much. Appreciate you having me.

Thanks, Sean. You can follow him on X Sean S H a W N underscore F A R A S H and it's also fresh media.com and you can follow him on rumble. I call like the rest of us. David Frye height also known as Viva Frye is going to be here in a few minutes. Of course, Viva is on rumble and Locals and YouTube at 4 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time. Viva and Barnes live, vivaandbarnes.locals.com. Follow Viva on X at the Viva Fry, F-R-E-I, and vivafry.com. We're going to take a little break and be right back with Viva Fry.

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Well I'm going a little crazy watching what's going on in Canada and like I don't the markets are not reflecting what should be the case and I just don't understand how Canadians seemingly according to the markets are being duped into voting for liberals again. So let me the markets meaning the the markets predicting likely wins in the Parliament correct? Yes there are there are markets that some people call it gambling others would call it investing in probability. There's polymarket, there's cal-she, there's predicted,

where people bet on political futures. They bet on future outcomes of various things. And the conservative Pierre Poilier's party went into this with a 30-point lead in the markets, and now they are at 22% likelihood of being the next prime minister of Canada. And it's mind boggling. I've just been going everywhere I can to put it on blast.

You don't need to endorse the conservatives to understand what the liberals are. And that is corrupt CCP communist vassal to the core. What happened? Why the switchover? I thought they'd, I thought, what was your previous prime minister? I'm blanking his name.

I'm so true Trudeau, that Trudeau was, you know, they got, Trudeau took them to the bottom with all this and they're ready to turn things around and be different. I'll tell you what, I don't want to call anybody stupid, except I will. Anybody who votes liberal is truly either stupid, corrupt, has political amnesia. What happened? Justin Trudeau, the most corrupt unethical SOB of a prime minister ever, after nine and a half years of devastating Canada in every single respect. There's things that you don't wanna be up in certain things.

Crime is up, gun violence is up, child hunger is up, medical assistance in dying is up, up, up. There's so many things that have been devastatingly imposed on Canadians in the last nine and a half years to the point where his cabinet was falling apart, people were resigning, et cetera, et cetera. He then resigns or announces his intention to resign, to the point where his cabinet was falling apart, people were resigning, et cetera, et cetera. He then resigns or announces his intention to resign,

and then he'll resign after they have their robust leadership race, and they plop in this globalist guy that nobody's ever heard of before in Canadian politics, Mark Carney, Mark J. Carney, globalist, been living in England for the last decade as governor of the Bank of England, and they plop him in, and he destroys it in the election.

Like Christa Freeland starts getting negative coverage or negative narrative control by Chinese influences, allegedly, and Mark Carney wins with 85% of the vote. A guy who's never served as MP, who nobody knows, and so everybody thinks he's just a nice new old man face. He smiles, he talks very nicely and smoothly.

He wins with 85% of the vote, and people think, oh, it's a new face, all is forgiven, and they don't understand that Mark Carney is a globalist puppet of the highest order. He might not even be a puppet, he might be the puppet master. He's got three passports, he's been living in England for the last 10 years, he's an anti-populist, anti-Brexit, globalist, literally gives talks at Davos.

I pulled up a bunch of interviews, literally talking about climate crisis at Davos. He's an invitee at Bilderberg meetings with Albert Bourla and the like. He is now anointed as the interim prime minister or prime minister designate, and people don't understand that this man is not a new face to politics. This man has been advising Justin Trudeau

for the last five years. And the old boss is worse than, let me rephrase that, the new boss is worse than the old boss but people just don't know who this guy is and I'm trying to put it on blast. Whatever you think of Pierre Poilier and I've been criticizing Pierre for the last four years practically,

people need to know what they're voting for. It's not a new face. You're voting for the same old globalist corruption of the highest order. What's wrong with Pierre? Like I said, Pierre, I've said it from the beginning. He's a fair weather politician for good and for bad. He licks his finger and sees which way the political winds are blowing and adopts his strategy accordingly. And I've said it, I got four years of track record

of saying this. Everybody says, you know, I ran for the People's Party of Canada. They're called more right than the conservatives, but I called them a constitutionalist, you know, quasi-libertarian party. So I've been criticizing him for four years because when the trucker protest was going down,

he was very quiet, he and the conservatives. He then for a brief moment in time, when it looked popular, supported the truckers. And then when it became unpopular to support the truckers, again, licking his finger, going with the wind. And I say for good and for bad because fair weather politicians can be manipulated, guided, swayed by public opinion.

So you can use that to your political advantage. The only problem is this election cycle, he seems to have licked his finger or listened to the whispers in his ear that Canadians want Trump Derangement Syndrome, and he's adopted that in response to the tariff dispute, the tariff war, as we call it, and I think he's effectively very much destroyed the campaign because now people are saying, well, if there's not much of a difference between the conservatives and the liberals, I'll stick with the devil I know, as opposed to going over to the devil I don't. And then you got you mixing your NDP there. The tariffs tend to precipitate that's where the cross caused the this this shift. And that makes some sense to me as the freeze in the tariffs caused the shift back.

Well, that's what we're going to see. But it's like it's not splitting hairs. It wasn't the tariffs per se. I think it was Piaf's response to the tariffs, which I said from day one, Piaf's response to the tariffs should have been, we don't need to address the Trump element of this. We just need to say these tariffs are being imposed on Canada because of every failure of the Liberal Party. You know, whether or not you thought Trump was being pre-textual by saying it's fentanyl related or crime related or terrorists crossing the border, people on terror watch lists crossing the border, whether you thought it was pre-textual, all Pierre had to say was, maybe this is pre-textual but we've got problems and they're all the fault of the Liberals.

He didn't do that. He picked a fight unnecessarily with Trump. And then Trump, you know, during one of those interviews said, I'd rather work with the liberals they're easier to work with. So it wasn't the tariffs per se was the response, which I think was a terrible response. I think it's played out that way. But now that Trump has said we're going to lift the tariffs on countries that didn't retaliate.

Now I say Pierre has been given another layup. Pierre Poiliev can now say, well, it was Carney's stupid retaliatory tariffs that have now put us in the bad books with Trump. And so blame them yet again, and maybe he can make the most of this opportunity. I now sort of think that Trump was setting this up from the get-go. Pierre misplayed the initial part. Maybe he can save the extra point right now, but it's a sad state of affairs in Canada because you have your NDP, which are left of the liberals,

who are so disgusted with their own party. Jagmeet Singh, the man who held this government for the last two and a half years because he wanted to get to his federal pension, they say, okay, we're pissed to the NDP, but we're not going to go over to the Conservatives, so we're just going to go over to the Liberals. So Liberals still have a net gain as a result of their corrupt, unethical, unconstitutional, tyrannical abuses over the last five years. So it's very frustrating because Canadians don't seem to have learned the lessons. They seem to be more concerned with hating on Trump and blaming Trump for the lamentable state of Canadian politics when it's all very much on the liberal shoulders and to a lesser degree

the conservatives for not being the opposition that they needed to be. It's so weird to me how close these politics are to what's happening in France. They just add in a Green Party and you've essentially got the mix that's going on there. Same back and forth too, from far left to sort of middle left because of just ridiculous political wins. One of the things I'm a little confused by though, you said that child hunger is up. How is there a hungry child in Trudeau's socialist utopia? How's that possible?

Drew, one in four children live in a household with food insecurity in Canada. I, you know, inflation is up. It's a socialist country. How do they, how is their hunger in socialism? How does that happen? I'm confused. Socialism, nothing. Everyone gets nothing. Let's say it's, it's total fairness. It's it's stratification of society. You know, the. The have-nots, it's all equal. And the haves, like Mark J. Carney, who, Mark J. Carney, I can go on for a long time. He was the chair of Brookfield Assets Management.

It's an asset management firm, an investment firm. He moved the company to New York, out of Canada, because of the tax policies and cost of doing business in Canada. He has offshore accounts for investment purposes. He's been advising Justin Trudeau on climate crisis policy for the last five years, while simultaneously investing in dirty energy companies like Brazil and the UAE.

I mean, and this... ...avanting around the country and his private jet while telling everyone you've got a you know, you've got to cut down your emissions We got to get to net zero by 2050 It's a story that seems to be a requirement of private jet ownership and flood and travel is you have to Admonish everybody else for any use of fuel fuels or fossil fuels while you fly a private jet consuming more per unit per human than anywhere else on earth. So ridiculous. But so does this in any way increase the probability that some part of Canada will join the U.S. We'll get Alberta or Calgary, something like that coming down

here. It's interesting because there were other people who were saying, you know, the 4D chess move when Trump pseudo endorsed Carney. He didn't really do it. But when he spoke nicely of Carney, called him Prime Minister Carney, people were saying, yeah, he wants the liberals to win because if the liberals win the push for Alberta to secede, to separate and potentially join as a 51st state, it will never be higher ever. I don't know, you know, the logistics of it, separating from Canada, the Federation,

is not a very easy thing to do. Quebec tried to do it twice. There was a whole Supreme Court decision as to whether or not the decision would even be recognized by the federal government for separation. But one thing is for certain, the push is getting strong now. And if the liberals win and you have Ontario and Quebec and the maritime provinces dictating the policy of the economic exploitation of Alberta, you're going to see a push to separate

like you've never seen before. And the irony is that Albertans are more spiritually connected zeitgeist-wise to America than to heavily liberal Ontario. Quebec always wanted to separate, so it's an interesting dynamic there. But you might have your- For a different reason. Say it again. For a different reason.

Alberta's the Canadian Texas. Quebec is literally the Canadian France. They wanna be French, not Canadian. It's an amazing thing because Quebec has been exploiting of the equalization payments. They tax the resources out of Alberta and then pay them out to the so-called poor provinces. But Quebec's only a poor province because they don't include hydroelectricity in that calculation. Very fortunate for Quebec.

And so they exploit Alberta, ship their money out to the Maritimes, impose crippling resource policies on them, and then expect them to thank them for the abuse. So I've never seen a movement like this at such a fever pitch now, but you might get your land connection from continental America to Alaska.

And it would be ultimately, I don't know how it happens, or you're gonna separate British Columbia from the rest to Alaska. And it would be ultimately, I don't know how it happens, or you're gonna separate British Columbia from the rest of Canada, you're gonna, it's not gonna be connected by landmass. But no, the long play might have been if liberals get in, that push becomes stronger. But if the liberals get in,

there's gonna be nothing left of Canada in four years in any event. So it'll be not the vultures, but rather the predatorial nations picking the debris of what Canada will be at that time. It'll be not the vultures, but rather the predatorial nations picking the debris of what Canada will be at that time. And Alberta will be probably lucky to be absorbed by the US and probably very eager to join the US.

I'm looking into my crystal ball and I see Governor Fry of the great state of Alberta. What do you think? It might be more likely. Why not? You don't need to be a natural born citizen in America to be a governor of a state. So who knows maybe governor of Florida in 10 years.

We'll see what happens. I'm reading the comment, the longtime Canadian friend unfriended me because of the support for Trump. It's insane. The degree of Trump derangement since I'm in Canada, but I've, and Drew, you'll, as a man who understands

the psyche of people, you'll be able to agree or disagree. This is the way that they cope with the damage that they've suffered by blaming a boogeyman because they feel that they do not have the power to take control themselves. And so can't blame their own decision making, can't blame their own government because they can't change that.

So blame Trump and pretend that Trump's tariffs are why one in four children are going hungry in Canada. Socialism and hungry children. I don't think, I think don't the socialist down here would believe that's possible. But imagine that. And mass amounts of government assisted suicide or state sanctioned murder.

Like the- Oh, I'm aware of that, I'm aware of that. I'm aware of that. I, the first time I went to Toronto, I remember going through a part of town that was like very slummy. And I'm like, wait a minute, you're not supposed to have slums in a socialist country,

but you guys do that. You manage that. Drew, go to, I don't know if you've ever been to British Columbia, you go to East Hastings and it's like, it's not of this earth. Gotten only worse. Encampments everywhere. I go back to Montreal now periodically.

Every time I go back, it's like, you don't wanna use the word entering a developing nation because you wouldn't even expect a developing nation to look like this. Homelessness rampant, open air drug facilities, there's one now that they've set up, I don't know if it's still there, a kilometer and a half or like what they call

a freedom mile from where I used to live. Safe injection sites where all they do is give you needles and give you crack pipes so you can do drugs in open air, but they don't give you any therapy and they don't give you, it's just facilitating death all the while wanting to expand medical assistance in dying to drug addicts and homeless. So it's an amazing thing in a socialist society,

you basically kill off the expendable useless eaters. And that's what the socialist government of Canada is trying to do. And for whatever the reason, Canadians don't seem to have had enough. We do it here too. We give needles, we give rigs, we give pipes, and we give the drugs.

And no acknowledgement that this disease that they are fueling is a chronic progressive illness that ends in death, regardless of your source of drugs. It progresses and it kills. And now our death rates are higher than ever. Well done. They were like, why could this be? How could this be? Look, it all started in Vancouver. They invented this sort of approach to treating addiction and it spread all over the North America and that's homelessness. There it is.

Just drug addiction on the streets as opposed to in treatment like I used to do. Drew, do you want to know a stat that'll blow your mind if you don't already know it? You know how many Canadians die of overdoses monthly, give or take? Monthly and on the whole Canadian, well, here in LA County, they died about six a day.

So let's multiply that times 100, 600 a day. That's actually exactly what, it's pretty, 606 on average die monthly in Canada from opioids 80% of them spent. How did I know that? How did I know that because I've had 35 effing years of experience with this disease. I know.

Oh, hoping them and keep their free to do what they want to do man. No, their brain isn't working right. They have an anasognosia. You are you are actively it is negligent manslaughter at best, at minimum, negligent manslaughter. And it should be judged accordingly. In Canada, in Quebec, they wanted to now,

speaking of negligent manslaughter, they want to have these mandates in case, mon-da-mon-ca-deen aptitude, like living wills, to authorize for euth, mon, non, en, cad, di, ne, ti, tu, like living wills to authorize for youth in Asia, maids, even though it's currently prohibited. It's just socialist societies, they become utopias of death. And that's what we're seeing in Canada.

Just when I say I've criticized the conservatives, because I say to some extent, it's not that they're no better than the liberals. They'll take you there, but they'll take you there slower. But at the very least, by taking you there slower, maybe you can get true opposition voices to bring them back to where they need to be.

When you said earlier, this is sort of like France and sort of like the UK, the only difference is you don't really have a populist movement in Canada that has a candidate support like you have in France. We have People's Party of Canada and Maxime Bernier, and I like the party and I like the leader, but it doesn't have the same popular support

that Marine Le Pen had in France. It doesn't have the same popular support that Kailin Georgescu, now George Simien, have in Romania. It doesn't have the same support that Bolsonaro had. And so what you have is 80, what did I say, like 90 plus percent, let's see 95% of the population is either liberal, NDP, Green Party, which are the radical lefties or central centrist lefties, the conservatives.

And there's still not that many conservatives in Canada to make up a fricking majority government. And so what's gonna happen? I mean, I don't know. The Chinese infiltration in the Canadian government, the Chinese, I believe, you know, poisoning Canadians, poisoning Americans, they're poisoning themselves to take over a country and its resources. They've sort of already bought into a lot of the natural resources. They've infiltrated the government. I believe they have good blackmail on the government. Drew, you got

to have on a guy named Sam Cooper, actually, now that I think about it, a Canadian journalist documenting this. Canada is going to hell in a hand, and people seem to be getting mad at me for pointing it out instead of voting out the scoundrels who are sending Canada to hell. You packed a lot into that. I was thinking, oh yeah, you mentioned three, I'll say popular leaders more than populist,

because populist sounds so pejorative, three popular leaders, and I would predict populist sounds so pejorative, three popular leaders. And I would predict if you had one emerge in Canada, the same, the same fate would be fall the Canadian leader, which is it'd be in prison too. They'd be in lawfare. There was lawfare against all three people. You mentioned Marie Le Pen has to go to jail for four, three years. This is insane. The guy in Romania, jail, the Bolsao, jail. And by the way, why is that different than what Putin does to his opponents?

Isn't that the same thing Putin does to his opponents? He just makes them disappear. Why are these people different than Putin, whom they hate? They do it with a nice accent. So they do it in Britain with a nice accent. Oh, they fall back in bed like so. No, it's no different, but I'm a little more cynical. I don't think you would have to worry about jailing a populist

candidate in Canada. Although by the way, they did, they arrested Maxime Bernier for holding an outdoor political rally in the 2021 election. They don't have to worry about jailing them because it doesn't seem that there's any meaningful like you know 30% support of the population for a populist candidate because they hate I I say they it's like I don't say they hate freedom in Canada they are in love with hating Trump more than they are in love with ensuring their own freedom and it's Stockholm it could be any number of things but but what it is it's it's not resulting in change it's facilitating a downward spiral, but at least they've got a boogeyman of Trump to hate while it happens It's delusion there's delusion mass illusion is a is a is a very

Common phenomenon today much to my amazement. I thought we ended those sorts of mass movements to my amazement. I thought we ended those sorts of mass movements in the mid 20th century, but evidently we've not had enough. We've not had enough delusion and, you know, Trump derangement syndrome is a delusional syndrome. They're protesting Elon Musk up in Canada. You make that make sense. Now, in fairness, there's not that many of them. They tend to be demographically, there tends to be some demographic uniformity in terms of who's actually protesting. And it's in Ottawa, you know, the government cities. But it's delusional.

And it's widespread. I do blame it on the propaganda effects of a state-run media that controls narratives. You don't have Joe Rogan's Steve Bannon's Steven Crowder's Tim Poole's up in Canada You've got rebel news true north and they're great, but they don't you know They don't they don't have the Rogan esque following even per capita And so when you have the CBC Radio Canada for the French side CTV news global news state-funded propaganda that literally and effectively brainwashes large swaths of the population.

Do you have Canadian viewers and listeners for Viva and Barnes? Oh yeah, they're like 15%. And some of them are a little bit, some of them are pissed off with me because they keep saying Viva, like Pierre Poilier is our only way out. And I'm saying like, you can view my criticism like I'm trying to take, bring him down, or you can view my criticism like I'm trying to take, bring him down,

or you can view my criticism like I'm trying to make sure he doesn't lose a slam dunk of an election, because first of all, you don't get better as a candidate by just relying on support and ignoring the grievances, but you also don't win elections by letting your adversaries dictate your political policy, your political strategy. And what Pierre, I believe sincerely, has allowed himself to do is have his political strategy

dictated by his fears of what Canadian state-funded media would say if he comes out and does what he needs to do to win this election. If he starts picking up some steam, I predict lawfare. I predict he'll be in jail. So let's see what happens. There wouldn't be enough time. They got two weeks. But no, they've already done everything to peer the accused of being a misogynist, a Trump light, Trump puppet, even though he

said they're railing against Trump as well. But no, the reality is the Canadian population at large is brainwashed to the point where they still think the Ottawa trucker protests were a bunch of racist misogynist extremists funded by foreign interests and And and they think that foreign influence is trying to make Canada Go go to the right as opposed to go to the left, but it's it's the beauty of a state-funded media. I mean, they've got all the money. Trudeau, or I should say Trudeau, Carney, who's promised to nearly double the budget for state-funded media if he gets elected,

how does he think that's gonna impact the reporting on the CBC when they report on the conservatives who wanna defund them? And preposterous things like you had CBC sue the conservatives back in 2019 for copyright infringement, for using CBC footage in their political. Canadian broadcast company.

Yeah, Canadian broadcast, the Crown Corporation that funded by taxpayers. So we were last together two weeks ago, you're in DC. How did that sort of fall out for you? You have any more thoughts from that day and the people you met and what you're learning about how things are going there, How did that sort of fall out for you? You have any more thoughts from that day and the people you met and what you're learning

about how things are going there? We have now tariffs that have been frozen and market likes it. We have Scott, why do I gaffe on his name every time? Bascent talking about how there's always a trap for China anyway, and that they step right into the trap. What are your thoughts on what's going on in our country? I put out a tweet earlier and I said like,

it's almost as though Trump isn't stupid. It's almost as though Trump isn't a fascist. And it's almost as though Trump is America first. And everybody who's been saying that he's a stupid fascist are the ones who want to put America last. Like I don't give him carte blanche and say, the plan. I just first of all I might have been right on the tariffs but not necessarily for the right. I mean I didn't think the tariffs were that bad of an idea. I did an interview with George Gammon who was critical of the of the tariffs.

Then I had you know Robert Barnes last Sunday said wasn't critical of the tariffs. He took some flack for that. But at the end of the day, Trump is not anti-American and he's not stupid. So, you know, you can still criticize where you think he makes some wrong decisions like by a since withdrew. But for some things, you're back. We're having some glitches because we're having to do this through satellite. The internet's down. We're back. Let's do this. We'll wrap up your thoughts. We'll wrap up because I don do this through satellite. The internet's down. We're back. Let's do this. We'll wrap up your thoughts. We'll wrap up because I don't trust the satellite. It happened.

Well, that's really lucky. All that I was saying is that Trump is not stupid. Everybody who told you that his decisions were wrong have been systematically wrong on everything. So why on earth would you listen to them now and not give Trump the benefit of the doubt? Right. It's stupid to continue listening to the people

who have been wrong for the last. It's a great point and it's a great time to suggest to everybody that they be rationally uncertain, that they not be irrationally certain. To be certain of everything is irrational. We can't predict the future, we don't know the truth. You got everything wrong thus far, be humble, try to ascend to some approximation of the truth

as best you can, but stay sort of open to new ideas and new ways of looking at things because the truth is very difficult to get to. Yeah, who would have expected 3,000 point up day in the market? You did? 3,000 points? You expected a 3,000 point uptick in the market.

I expected a dead cat bounce. This wasn't a dead cat. Isn't that what you call it? No, that's not what this is. No, not at all. I could see that people were freaking out and selling stuff that aren't stock market effects in autos like we are, but I knew it would bounce. Well, all right.

Well, speaking of freeze, the whole system keeps free. So listen, I have seen this happen several times before. And I told everybody who was freaking out, I said, don't sell anything. Just do not sell. Buy. Now's the time you're going to buy. Now, you know, the smartest woman in the room now is Marjorie Taylor Greene. They made fun of her on Monday. They made fun of her on Monday. They made fun of Trump for using the word mannequins. And had you just not sold, you would have been better off. And had you actually, if you had any spare cash bought in.

But the bottom line, everybody, they want it to happen. They want America to fail so they can use it against Trump. And that is the most insidious type of person on earth. Yes. And people need to be exposed for that. We need to all be rooting for America and that's that. All right, Viva, good to see you as always. We'll look for you on X the Viva Fry, F-R-E-I,

and Viva and Barnes and Viva Fry podcast. Check it all out on Rumble and Locals. Anywhere else they should go? Yeah, that's it. If you Google my name, you'll get a bunch of good stuff. All right, Google's name, V-I-V-A-F-R-E-I. All right, my friend. Talk to you soon. You know what else I want to say? It's going to be volatile.

It's not going to just keep going up. It's going to go down and up and down and up because the people that bought low are going to sell off some of their gains and it's going to go back up. This ride is not over yet. This is a lot of uncertainty and there's a lot of changes. Long-term T-bills rates are going up. It's just a lot of uncertainty and there's a lot of changes. Uh, long-term T-bills rates are going up. It's a lot of crazy things happening. You haven't lost money. You own a stock and a good company and it's, it's not that you lost your money. You just, it's,

you just have to wait till it comes back and I'll come back. The company owned might be worth a little less for a while. Yeah. Okay. So we appreciate y'all being here. Let's put up salty cracker coming in tomorrow at two o'clock. Let's see the recipe. I think Mark Robert coming in. He's going to give us an update on all things, uh, Kennedy and otherwise chef Grullin, um, and Jack Posobic, John Bradowski, Don Browski, Albrowski. I'm thinking of that, right? A lot of great guests coming. Check it out. We're, we're remaining at two o'clock Pacific time. And let's see, Susan, are you going to show next week also you think?

Yeah, but we're not going to talk about Charles Manson. Okay. Good. Because he cock blocked my show twice today, knocked out the internet. And then he also, he froze my show twice. Every time we talked about him, the show would go off the air. It was the weirdest thing, right Caleb? Yeah, it was literally every each time it was within 10 seconds of them saying something mean about Charles Manson, the internet would go out. And then I hooked up satellite

and it did the same exact thing a second time. So thanks Charlie. Right, as we started talking about him. Maybe I should say something mean right now since we're heading towards the end here. Don't describe him, whatever you do. He started talking about it. Maybe I should say something mean right now, since we're heading towards the end here. Don't describe him. Whatever you do. He doesn't like it.

He was schizophrenic, psychotic. He was not. All right. Let me just. Psychopath. Yes, he was indeed. Let's just look at what's going on here. That was so weird.

Let's see. It kind of ruined my show though. I hope if anybody was watching it, you can get it in three parts. I don't know. Maybe Caleb can put it all together in one show and upload it somewhere. So at least everybody can see the whole thing, but I don't know. There's a half hour. It's a restream froze too a little bit.

It's kind of weird. We have 40 minutes missing out of it. So it sucks. We're going to wrap this thing up. We appreciate you all being here. Do support the people that support us. We were very fortunate to have each and every one of them. And we're fortunate to have each and every one of you here. Tell a friend, be a part of this.

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