Ask Dr. Drew - Compliance Training: Veteran Fined $28,000 For “Walking In Woods” In Canada w/ Viva Frei, Jeff Evely, Dr. Steph Venn-Watson – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 521
Episode Date: August 23, 2025A veteran was fined $28,000 for stepping into the woods during Nova Scotia’s strict wildfire ban. Will states like Oregon or California implement similar restrictions as they face increasing wildfir...es – and how much pressure are they willing to use to get citizens to comply? Jeff Evely, a retired Master Warrant Officer with 20 years of service, recorded himself breaking the “Stay Out of the Woods” order in Coxheath, Nova Scotia, in protest of the restrictive ban on all hiking and camping until October 15. The video went viral as another example of Canadian government overreach. David Freiheit, known as Viva Frei, is a legal commentator and host of Viva Frei on Rumble, Locals, and YouTube. He co-hosts Viva & Barnes Live on VivaBarnes.Locals.com, discussing legal and political issues. Follow at https://x.com/thevivafrei⠀Jeff Evely is a retired Canadian Armed Forces veteran, serving from 2001 to 2021. He deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq, worked with NORAD, and coached boxing and cheerleading. He ran for the People’s Party of Canada in 2025. Follow at https://x.com/JeffEvely⠀Dr. Stephanie Venn-Watson, DVM, MPH, is a veterinary epidemiologist and co-founder of Seraphina Therapeutics. She discovered C15:0 deficiency solutions, improving health in dolphins and humans. Her supplement, fatty15, is Inc. 5000’s top-growing. Learn more at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://drdrew.com/vshredmd • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Well, let me try a brief intro again. Viva Fry coming in here just seconds.
Amongst other things, we're going to talk about Jeff Evely and his tremendous penalty for daring to walk in the woods in, I think it was Nova Scotia.
He's a retired Army Forces veteran.
You can follow him on X. Jeff Eveli, E-V-E-E-E-L.
system. And I'm sure David Freight also knows is Viva Frye. Viva Frye. Rumble, Locals, YouTube,
Viva and Barnes, local, Viva Barnes.com. We'll talk about it all. And then Stephanie
Van Watson comes in to give us an update on brain health and C-15. Be right back.
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just a minute but um i wondered if i wanted to get some thoughts on certain things with you did
you see James Comey's
hostage video.
Oh my good Lord.
Like I made a joke that it was the creepiest thing
I've ever seen in my life.
And if I were Taylor Swift, I'd be legit scared.
Can you imagine the guy making a five-minute ode
to a teeny bopper that he's so in love with?
And then he says something, Drew,
you can identify sociopaths.
He says, my relationship with Taylor Swift
goes back 15, 20 years.
Like he has a relationship with her
because he listens to her music.
It was pathological, and it made me feel very dirty
after having watched.
Somebody wrote it. I doubt he wrote it.
He was reading a prompter the entire time.
He talked about how ugly the elderly president was,
covered with makeup, and yet he himself had this cleeg light on his face
and was covered with makeup with white around his eyes.
It was so odd.
And he, you know, here's the thing.
If a 64-year-old man was interested in Taylor Swift, 15 to 25-year-old women would not be interested in him.
You know what I mean?
It's just not even fitting in reality.
I believe that one time he went to a concert with his kids way back.
I don't believe anything else.
And the other thing, he's an expert in lying in a manipulation, right?
And if you notice early in the little diatribe, in the prompter,
he's reading. He's overly specific. He goes, I love
this one song. He names the song. He goes, the 10-minute version.
Now, that was unnecessary. Why did you put that in there?
He's so specific because he's lying. He's lying and he's trying
to cover for it. It's funny you mention that because he said he said he
listened to the podcast until they got kicked off of YouTube and then they
watched the last 15 minutes. Very specific.
Too specific. We didn't need any of that.
If you're talking to somebody, you went,
you know, I saw Taylor on her podcast, I'm a big fan.
You don't go, I watched the 12 minutes and 30 seconds,
at which point we were kicked off.
And then he went on to say,
we watched the rest of it the next day on our iPhones.
It's like, that's all lying.
That's how people lie by being overly, overly, overly specific.
You would think he would know that.
It's pathological.
He thinks he's going to get away with it.
You know, the whole thing was just, it was delusional.
But I genuinely think that these guys like the comies,
the Brennan's, Brennan on MSNBC,
Like, they're yipping at the mouth now where, like, they are the stuck pig that's making a lot of noise.
And I really think they genuinely understand they're in some trouble and, you know, the proverbial walls are closing in.
But Pam Bondi had better start doing something because you're the news also.
Bailey has been named co-director, co-depity of the FBI.
Who's the other one?
Ed Martin is now out there, you know, making public the grand jury in the jury.
investigations into these criminals. Between J.D. Vance saying there will be indictments.
Tulsi Gabbard saying accountability. Cash Patel threatening to, not Cash Patel, sorry,
Dan Bongey, you know, rumor has it threatening to leave the FBI because of Bondi's mishandling
of the Epstein files. The entire administration is basically saying Bondi, you better start
doing something, or we're going to start doing it with or without you, but they better start
doing it because, you know, people expect not just low-level, what's her name, LaTroy from New
Orleans getting indicted, but some high-level people and higher-ups in the FBI to start
facing the justice. It's so interesting. Isn't it kind of interesting, though, how almost
half the country doesn't even barely, doesn't seem to know this is going on, because the
mainstream media is only reporting it as some sort of witch hunt? Well, I mean, it's part for the
course. We are among a crowd of very vocal minorities who are paying attention to the news,
but the amount of coverage that's been given on legacy media,
Fox News, I say, is the best of the worst.
And even they've been, you know, pretty good about it,
but not as good as they could be.
That's why everybody needs to go to Twitter
and follow some of these alternative media accounts for...
I won't, I'm going to over it.
I appreciate that, but I'm not letting go of these stories.
Yeah, I was talking to Adam Carole about this,
and he goes, look, he goes,
Comey's on a campaign.
There will be another video to follow.
follow that will be sort of some sort of some sort of defense. It's just, it's just the beginning of a
campaign quite clearly. And he goes, Adam goes, this is a really good point. He says, you know,
who on TV did the most dance, the happy guy, you know, to build a case for, so you didn't
question who they were? Bill Cosby at the beginning of the Cosby show, dancing along,
dancing around. I'm such a cool guy. So you couldn't see who he was. Ellen, Rosie.
These were the goofy, dancy, you know, here I'm such a happy person.
I'm a lovable person.
And they turned out not to be quite that way, at least by reports.
And certainly Cosby turned out not to be that way.
And this is that, again, why do you need to build a case if you're an honest person?
It was so bizarre.
Even the framing, the delivery, but it does confirm that, I mean, they're pathological.
They're pathological liars.
They're actual psychopaths in my view.
And this is coming on the heels of the 8.
86, 47, which we're not going to forget
about that he also blamed on his wife.
Can you believe he blamed his... I want to tell you
something. I know. I want to tell you something else.
But speaking of uncomfortable and bizarre,
I think it would be better if you just walk through the screen
and not...
You see Susan's back
going past my shoulders here.
She's trying to get through without being seen.
I thought I was crouched down low.
But she's making much more weird, much more uncomfortable
by doing that.
But I was on Gutfeld
with Katie McFarlane, who was herself in the Trump,
first Trump administration.
She told me something very, she'd said it on the show,
something very interesting.
It sort of helped me understand who this guy is.
She said, in the first meeting Trump had with Comey,
Comey loomed over, he pulled him aside and said,
hey, come, I got to talk to you about something.
And Katie, of course, immediately put her ear into the, you know,
tuned into what was going on.
And he said, hey, you know, we've got this,
the Soviets are passing around this,
dossier, which has some reports of some really problematic behavior on your part.
I don't want you to worry about that because I think I should stay the director of the FBI.
That's blackmail.
He's literally blackmailing him.
If you don't want to see that thing go public, you'll keep me as the director of the FBI.
And she said, he said that.
He said that to the President of the United States, sitting president.
And then when he left, Katie said, Trump went, what is up with that guy?
He's so weird.
What was he doing?
Who did you think he was talking to?
What was that?
And he fired him.
It's, I mean, they're crazy.
They're criminals.
But Pam Bondi had better, people had better start acting even, not without the, the approval
of Pan Bondi, but I think she's gotten the indication from everyone.
And if she doesn't start producing results, right now the FBI's produced concrete results.
Tulsi Gabbard has produced concrete results.
J.D. Vance is putting the soft pressure on Pam Bondi.
And she'd better start doing things.
And maybe even looking into the situation in Florida where, you know, I've been following the fatal trucker accident story.
And as much as I'm going to blame and put a lot of pressure on Gavin Newsom, it looks like it's a multi-state failure at all levels of government.
And it might also involve the issuance of these CDLs in Florida a little bit willy-nilly that, you know, everyone might want to look into the situation.
But Pan Bondi had better start producing some results because thus far she's getting the F while a lot of other people.
are getting the A pluses and the Bs?
Well, it's weird that we have been sort of in a state of lawlessness of some sort.
And now we have Trump bringing the National Guard into his federal territory that he's responsible for.
And we have all the, a lot of the mayors of the state, of the, particularly the cities that are so dysfunctional like Karen Bass in Los Angeles,
saying he's only going after black and brown people.
That's what this is.
a campaign against black and brown people.
And I thought, oh, is that the game?
If a black person or brown person commits a crime, you can't go after it.
Is that, and if you do, you're selecting for them?
What are we supposed to do?
And believe me, those kids are not, we need to help rehabilitate people, not let them run
while, just like with the strongest people.
We need to help them.
We need to treat them.
We need to set limits on them.
But, Drew, he's going after criminals.
And if Karen Bass is suggesting that the only criminals are black and brown people,
She's the racist and nobody else.
It's either going after criminals, period.
They're going after illegals, period.
Statistically, illegals are going to be not Caucasian
because the Biden administration was not opening the borders to Caucasians.
It wasn't even opening the border to Cubans.
So statistically, they will fit a demographic,
but they're not being targeted for being part of that demographic.
But lawlessness is the word.
I mean, we have been governed by,
and the government has been infiltrated by or taken over by criminals.
Every one of them, Adam Schiff,
the criminality has now been brought to bear.
Leticia James and petty criminality,
but the petty criminals don't just commit petty crime.
They also commit real crime.
It's all been exposed for everybody to see,
although a lot of us knew of this since 2016, 2017.
But the next step has to be above and beyond
sternly worded letters and subpoenas from Congress,
accountability, which requires indictments,
prosecutions, and convictions.
And so we're at that stage right now.
A lot of people are still saying nothing's going to happen.
It's part for the course, yada, yada.
We're at the stage now where you've got to keep on the pressure because it requires charges,
trials, and convictions.
So one of the things I hate is this idea that's going to be an everlasting tit-for-tat situation.
I just want people to be held accountable in the sense that they agree they did these things.
They won't do them again.
Maybe they're convicted.
And what if Trump then pardoned them or something after a few weeks in prison?
I would be very happy with that kind of thing.
Would that not make you happy?
Call me not a nice Canadian anymore.
No, jail.
I mean, he also appreciate that the Russia collusion hoax,
it wasn't just an abomination of the Constitution.
It wasn't just a violation of everything that is wholly,
of the institutions that are supposed to be the cornerstones of a civilized Western society.
It arguably, but not arguably, led to the Russian-Ukrainian conflict
by having four years of demonizing of Russia so that it laid the, or set the stage for
Russia, big, bad enemy number one, you know, interfered with elections, left, right, and center,
and it laid the groundwork for what is now the conflict of the proxy war on Russia.
So this Russia gate hoax, the criminality in the military industrial complex,
backslash unipart, Democrat criminal scheme in America, has led to concrete deaths on the
international scale and people should appreciate that it's like there look adam shift doesn't go to jail for
crimes against humanity but they will not learn their lesson until there are hard consequences and if
they don't get anything more than a slap on the wrist they'll continue par for the course i guarantee you
the lawyer for the FBI kevin client smith who got 400 hours community service a suspended sentence and
whatever for falsifying evidence submitting it to a secret fisa court so they could spy on carter page
and then use that to one step to spy on Donald Trump.
He didn't learn a damn thing from that
except for the fact that he could get away with it
when they control the levers of power.
So yet real consequences, and unfortunately, no,
no pardons because these are not political persecutions.
This is just justice.
You mentioned something about the proxy war against Russia.
I noticed, and I don't know if this was appropriate or not,
it seems like the Canadian media is not mentioning it,
but Canada did not have a place, a seat at the table, as they say,
during the recent gathering of international leaders.
Now, I understand it was primarily Europe, primarily Western Europe,
but it was interesting that Canada wasn't there, was it not?
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't put too much stock on that,
but I would make a joke that, you know, Canada's become a proxy for China right now,
so why would you possibly let?
Drew, I say that tongue-in-cheek.
I had on Sam Cooper, Canadian journalist, amazing guy.
And he was telling me how Americans were, American government was almost fearful to share
intelligence with the Canadian government because of how infiltrated the Canadian government
is with Chinese influence.
And so it's not a joke, like invite Canada so that China can know what's going on behind
closed doors in these discussions as relates to the war in Ukraine.
But no, look, Trump is dealing with Canada the way he should deal with Canada.
Right now, Canada has proven itself to be a liability.
to the national security of these United States of America.
And I'm not sure why you would invite them,
especially since now Canada is being governed by that three passport-carrying globalists
who are Mark J. Carney,
who Canadians don't seem to fully appreciate just how bad he is
until, you know, provinces start shutting down access to forests and whatnot.
But that's not on Carney.
That's on just the general zeitgeist of Canada.
Well, let's talk about that.
So what happened here?
They want to, is they're going to prevent forest fires by keeping humanity away?
Look, we got the, the blueprint from the feds, federal government in Canada during COVID.
People are going to say, and rightly so, this is a provincial issue.
It's nothing to do with the feds.
But when you have the climate crisis freaks in charge from the feds down to the provinces,
down to the municipalities, when you have, you know, Agenda 2030 on the forefront,
when you have open boards in Canada.
This is a federal issue that has trickled down to the provinces now
where they've discovered you can get away with trampling the citizens' rights
or as they like to consider them the privileges
under the pretext of a national provincial emergency.
So there's a very dry season going on right now.
There's a bit of a heat wave.
And in 2023, Nova Scotia had some record-breaking fires,
which, for those paying attention, understand, as I said it at the time,
were arson.
So they tried to pass it off as climate crisis.
They try then to say anybody who denies it as a climate denialist or conspiracy theorist,
whether or not climate crisis contributed to the harshness of the fires,
they were arson in Nova Scotia.
But 2023 was a bad year.
They're having another bad year right now,
and they've discovered that you can lock people out of Crown's land,
prohibit hiking, camping, fishing, as though that's what causes forest fires.
And they've done it.
And they've been issuing fines up to $25,000 in Nova Scotia.
Newfoundland, which is sort of an archipelagro, not an island from what I understand,
detached from the mainland, however, they've decided that's not enough.
They've up their fines to $100,000 and imprisonment of up to like six months to a year if you don't pay the fine.
Or walking.
Not even, not open fires, not violating the open fire ban, which everyone understands and is reasonably correlated to the objective.
Not using ATVs, which is reasonably correlated.
You know, they have mufflers and they have sparks and whatever.
hiking, fishing, accessing the woods, and the guests you're going to have on, Jeff Evely, a veteran, you know, out of protest says, hey guys, I'm going into the woods. Give me a ticket if you're going to because I need to get the ticket in order to challenge the constitutionality of this. But they've gone crazy. They've gone bat hoop crazy in Canada. And the problem is there's not enough people who seem to be outraged by it. It seems that the majority of people up in Canada are finding a way to justify being governed like a bunch of, you know, children.
because emergency.
It is because the emergency.
So the logic is so crazy.
Let's say climate is here.
Let's just say that's what it is.
Climate's going to be hotter from now on.
It's not going to change, right?
Indian China or continue to belch forth, whatever.
And yes, of course, we all want to do our best,
even though it's not even clear that humans are doing it or CO2 is the issue.
But, okay, you want to do your best.
Let's just say, you certainly don't want to be reckless with this.
But the problem is the fuel, not the humans, right?
The fact that there's so much fuel on the forest,
I'm guessing you have the same problem we have in Southern California,
which they don't do forestry management.
And that fuel will eventually burn.
That will eventually become CO2.
Am I off base here?
You're not off base.
It's tough to find.
What's amazing is as the international,
gets inundated with narrative-driven stories from legacy media, it becomes harder to find the
actual truth. Yes, forest management out in Canada, I was going to say out east, but it's also
bad out west. It's notoriously bad. And their argument is, well, we can't get that far into the
woods to, you know, gather the, what do they call it, the, not the Tinder.
Underbrush. The brush. The dead wood that acts as the fuel. Yeah. The underbrush, we call it.
Yeah. Yeah. It's, that's their argument. We can't do it because it's too far in the woods and it's
not feasible. So what? You're going to lock people as if fishing is what causes the forest fires
in the first place? You ban people who are the law-biting citizens. It's not like the arsonists
who have been starting these fires in previous situations are going to say, well, shit,
I can't go into the forest now because they put a ban on it. You actually decrease the likelihood
that someone catching an arson or deterring an arson. But at the end of the day, and also like
you mentioned, not like China and India are not going to stop polluting. On the contrary, we're just
going to outsource to them our pollution. It's almost as though this is being done strictly for
the benefit of China and India. You're going to lock down Canadians, cripple the Canadian economy,
all so that China can continue building coal burning plants and polluting without any sort of
consequence. And the crippling that you've done to the Canadian economy has had zero impact
on whatever you identified as the problem in the first place. The only way it makes sense
is that this is part of destroying,
crippling the Canadian economy,
demoralizing the Canadian population,
and training them to live in 15-minute cities
where they get to leave their houses
when the government says the air quality is good enough.
You're not at risk of doing anything.
By the way, Drew, it's so stupid, it's going to blow your mind.
In Nova, not Nova Scotia, in New Brunswick.
After the Nova Scotia excuse was not taking,
they come on and say, no, no, it's not because you're going to start fires.
It's because if you break an ankle, eh, we're not going to come and get you.
so now they're saying you're not going to come and get you if you break an ankle that's why
you can't go into the forest right now because we won't be able to help you i mean that was the excuse
that they used to lock people in their homes during covid to say we can't treat you in the hospitals
so in order to not overwhelm the health care system you got to stay home and get sick and die
in your apartment alone but what's what's just maddening is it doesn't seem that canadians are
up in arms about this as they should be you get the government workers in ottawa you get the big
city folk who don't have access to these forests anyhow saying what's the big deal shut up do it you're
told it's all for the greater good not appreciating that this is is outright tyranny yeah greater good
good i don't know about that and look and the it just seems to me that the climate story is falling
apart is it's only going one direction i'm also hearing that we have an actual bigger crisis with
oxygen in the ocean and plastics, that seems to me like a more legitimate problem that we
need to do something with. But the bigger problem is something you're pointing at.
There's a French psychologist named DuPont, DuPont, that I'm trying to get in here,
who's been pointing this out. She calls it a perversion, a perverse government that is governing
by fear. They go from one emergency to the next and govern by fear. And I agree with her. I think
perversion is a decent way to describe that.
Perversion, it's tyranny.
It's micromanaging.
We are being governed by Cairns.
I mean, it's basically being governed by Cairns.
And they say, no, no, you might start a fire.
You better stay out of the...
I don't want to swear on your show.
I don't know what the rules are, but they can't go to hell.
Go nuts.
Have it out of Viva.
Out of the forest.
It's who the hell do you think you are?
We have, in Canada, we've got a charter of rights.
It's founded on the Bill of Rights.
and you got that first little provision there in the preamble it says this charter
god-given rights except as can be infringed upon in a free and democratic society and that
has been twisted the entire system that is working in cahoots with itself to say yeah if we say
you can't go into the forest it's for you know it's it's it's it's tolerable limits within a free
and democratic society you've got corrupt corrupt judiciary who's working to ratify the legislation
the corrupt politicians and corrupt police officers who their livelihood depends on their salaries
from the government so they can't defy it. And you got the holy trifecta of tyranny. And then you
got the media subsidized by the government. They don't want to lose their paychecks either.
So it's a massive grand slam of corruption that is stripping Canadians of their rights, stripping
Europeans of their rights because it's similar in Europe. And nobody seems to understand America
is the beacon for a reason. It's the last stronghold of freedom in the world. And people seem to think
that somehow America is
the rabid animal in all of this. America
is what is preventing the rest of the world
from going the way of Europe, where you get locked
up for a social media post. Canada's right
there.
Yeah, you need to
get your friends in Quebec, the
descendants of the
French to resurrect
1789, which they are so
frequently on
their tips of their tongues, and really
re-examine the rights of
man, that they seem to be
violating so readily. And we certainly did it in this country during COVID. One of the greatest
conversations I had during COVID was Corolla was on the phone with me and he was on a horse
trail. You know, everything was locked down. You're not supposed to go outside. Most trail,
horse trail, outside. Nobody around. It was knocked off with police tape. He just walked around
him and one of the city officials came tearing up in his car. What are you doing? He goes,
I'm walking on the trail. There's nobody here. The guy's like, you can't go there. He goes,
hey, why didn't you set up the tank traps
like they had on Omaha Beach?
Maybe then I'd respond to it.
I thought, oh, this is so good.
They just kept walking.
You were on the phone with him.
Yeah, I was on the phone with him.
Anybody saying...
Set up the tank traps.
Anybody they're raising, invoking the, quote,
greater good, I mean, they don't understand
that they are one step away and not that far away in Canada
from literally saying, okay, well, we're going to kill you
and harvest your organs because it'll be good for 10 people,
and that is literally for the greater good.
When you've stopped respecting individual fundamental rights, there is no bigger, greater good.
And I joke, you know, people think it's hyperbolic about the harvesting of the organs.
New Brunswick recently passed a law called the Avery's Law, which is a presumption opting, you cannot opt out of organ donation, which sounds great, right?
You know, because there's a lot of people who need organs.
Well, they can declare you dead before you're actually dead.
If a coroner comes in and says, you're about to die, but you're not yet dead, we're going to harvest your organs.
we are at that point where people think the greater good is violating fundamental individual rights.
But it's Ayn Rand's principle.
You cannot respect minority rights unless you respect the rights of the greatest minority, the individual.
Ooh, I'm quoting Ayn Rand.
I've not heard you do that, but I'm a fan.
Okay, and it's funny that she's been resurrected recently.
I see her a lot of places on a lot of different posts and things.
Her words have relevance.
And we should also all read George Orwell, too, by the way.
We should read Animal Farm.
I have a little side note.
Okay.
Remember Kristen with the cats?
Yep.
One of our biggest fans.
She said that the, I don't know how to say the Saskatchewan is on fire due to thunder and lightning.
Of course.
You know, God's not listening.
No, no, no.
God is not listening to the Canadian government.
All right, Viva Frye, everybody, the Viva Frye on X.
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We're going to bring Jeff in here to talk about his battle with the Canadian government and his recent outrageous fine.
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We're here with Viva Frye,
and we are welcoming Jeff Evley,
retired Armed Forces veteran.
From the Canadian Armed Forces,
he deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq,
worked with NORAD,
and he ran for the People's Party of Canada in 2025.
You can follow him on exit, Jeff Evley, E-V-E-E-E-L-Y.
Viva, as I said, is still with me,
and Jeff, we welcome me to the program.
Nice for having me.
So Viva mentioned that you had sort of done this intentionally in order to challenge the constitutionality of this.
Have you had that opportunity or has this gone haywire on its own?
It is going haywire, but I will get my opportunity soon enough.
I guess you could say this all started back in 2023.
We had a bad wildfire season, arson attack season, as Viva just mentioned.
and at that time they locked down the entire province
even though there were no act of wildfires where I live on Cape Breton Island
so I thought it was overbroad and overreach at that time
and I submitted a judicial review to have the measures examined
in light of our constitutional rights and freedoms
and at that time I was told by the courts that because I had no financial interest at stake
that I wouldn't have standing so they wouldn't hear the arguments on its merits
because there was no money involved.
So they actually told me that had I gotten fined,
then I would have gotten standing.
So when they came in with the blanket ban again this year,
I knew what I had to do on the first day.
So, you know, I made a phone call down to the Department of National Resources
to book an appointment to come in and get their $28,872.50 fine
for a 90-second trump through the bush under the supervision of three conservation officers, no less.
Crazy.
Viva, I want to bring you in.
This is what scares me the most about this story is the ease with which they use the very notion of lockdown.
There should be something that they don't even think of that somewhere in a room when they've tried everything else.
They go, should we do lockdown?
They just go, lock down.
Let's take these people's privileges of.
of ambulation, of moving about away from them.
That is the most disgusting thing.
You recall, I mean, we had never even conceived of the notion of house arrest
in the absence of a judicial order before COVID.
And even in COVID, it didn't come quickly.
There's a reason why they went with those videos coming out of China,
showing people dropping dead in the streets,
people dropping dead during live streams,
to traumatize people into the concept of even accepting the notion,
let alone the legality.
of lockdowns and they did it and they got away with it and a lot of people said well better safe
than sorry for the greater good stay home you look how easy look how easy it is now for them to
deploy the exact same strategy this should be something that is the very i mean nuclear
almost not occur to them nuclear follow yeah yeah civil war massive unrest uh and i don't mean to use
the term genocide flippantly you know genocidal war other than that sorry you don't get to lock
people out of the, they call it the crown's land. I love it. Like, we're such subjects up in Canada.
You don't get to go into the crown's land anymore. It's not your land. You don't pay for that
with your taxes, which you do. You're being locked out of the crown's land and nobody says boo.
But they accepted it during COVID. So why not now? I mean, at least you get to go to,
you get to live in your 15-minute city. You just don't get to go enjoy the nature.
Jeff, what do you learn since embarking on this journey?
well I would say that I've learned that the country that I signed up to serve no longer exists
you know when I can't even stand on my rights in a Canadian courtroom because there's no money
involved I find that to be just a gross affront really to human dignity I mean we have
these rights and these freedoms for a reason there is no such thing as human dignity without human
liberty. And, you know, depriving us thereof is not compatible with the principles of fundamental
justice to which we are supposed to adhere as per our Constitution. And all of that seems to have
gone by the wayside. And I think you guys were talking a little bit about just how inverted
the paradigm is right now. I mean, these are supposed to be fundamental freedoms, human rights.
They're being described as privileges now.
And, you know, so I think we're into some really dangerous territory here.
But at the same time, there is perhaps room for optimism because they keep getting out over their skis.
I think this one, you know, even in light of everything that happened in COVID, now that they're doing this again, over something so insignificant as worry over wildfires.
there were no wildfires that were active at the time that they declared the ban.
They still have not declared a state of emergency.
So just the level of arbitrarity and caprice, I think, that is so central to the essence of totalitarianism is on full display here in the Atlantic provinces.
And people do seem to be more incensed about it now than I've ever seen them.
We don't have Trudeau to blame anymore.
Where is this coming from?
Well, I think it's coming from the establishment, I guess, broadly.
All the people who did this to us during COVID are still there.
When it comes to Trudeau, he was always just the Wizard of Oz.
I mean, that duplicitous candlest kind of has never had an original.
Mark Carney was actually the man behind the curtain.
He was Trudeau's advisor for a number of years.
And probably the one who really drove the crackdown on the trucker convoy,
which is based on the article that he wrote.
the globe and fail and calling us seditionists and Marco Mendocino's text to David Lamedi who said
we should bring in the tanks to crush these protesters because Carney is upset. So it does
seem like this is a continuation of the same dynasty in that sense. And also it's not the politicians,
I think as much as it is the senior bureaucrats in some sense because Trudeau is very fond of saying
that we're following the advice of the professional public service. Oh God. Oh my God. Those
are the worst words ever. We're almost
worse than I'm from the government. I'm here to
help you. So, Viva, let me think
about this. If we were to
turn Alberta into a
territory, would we have
a continuous access to Alaska?
Look, you might, it's not going to happen.
I know the secession movement in Alberta.
Hold on. But hang on. No one ever
talks about how things become a state,
right? There was this weird thing
in this country where Trump's going to buy
Alberta. You don't buy states. You
organize them into a territory and then they become the given statehood systematically after
that and it's a procedure it's a process and once it starts once you have a territory you
essentially have manifest destiny so i'm just wondering will we have access to alaska should
something like that happen with one of those central states but we'll see about that i think the
the the bigger risk for canada is just collapsing as a country i mean what's what's happening right now
is the financial drain out of Canada.
People, I thought you wanted that.
You came in the United States.
You would take pot shots at Canada for as long as I've known you,
but you don't want them to collapse?
I don't want them to, I would like to,
look, I wish the best.
It's like a next girlfriend.
I wish the best for her.
I don't want her dead.
I don't want to be with her anymore.
It looks like Canada's going the way of Venezuela
as opposed to the way of America.
And if that's what the people want,
that's what they'll get.
I mean, I'm not going to finance my own oppression.
I mean, that's what was going on in Canada.
But what's ultimately going to happen is the people with the means, the people with the brains, the people who pay taxes are going to leave.
And the country is going to collapse on its own.
What they're trying to do right now is replace the population that's leaving with immigrants.
And there's no bad, not bad boo-hoo.
They've understood that you can't replace them with low-skilled immigrants.
And now they've made that decision.
Well, we've got to stop doing that.
except, you know, we need unskilled labor to exploit.
And then the health care system can't handle it.
And then we need to bring in more people to work in the health care system at cheaper
salary.
It's basically a black hole right now, a vortex of collapse.
And I tried to wake everybody up.
But Jeff and I both ran for the People's Party of Canada.
People weren't interested in it.
They wanted liberals.
You mentioned the 1789 spirit of Quebec.
those, you know, those rabble rousers of French Canadians
re-elected their tyrant and gave him more seats,
François Legault, in the province of Quebec.
So we live in an era now, people don't want to accept responsibility
for their own actions.
They want to be governed, and when things go to hell,
they want to be able to blame the government
and not take responsibility for it.
And it's a very, very bad cycle.
Jeff, you said you have optimism.
Tell me more about that after I squeeze Viviva a little bit.
Well, I do think that things will probably have to get a little worse before they get better.
And the next year is probably going to get really rough.
There's a perfect storm brewing, and it doesn't seem to be the case that Mark Carney has any interest in bringing the cost of housing down,
especially since his company, Brookfield, will make millions off of bringing in the modular housing that they're planning on providing to young people.
but people are already selling their houses
because a lot of people moved during COVID
and their mortgages are coming up for renewal right now.
They jacked interest rates in the interim.
And so now when they're refinancing,
they're not going to be able to make their payments
and they're not able to sell their houses.
So foreclosures, I think, are coming,
especially in light of the fact
that we're in the midst of an affordability crisis.
So nobody's buying these houses.
People are having to drop them by a third of the price,
by 40% of the price, and they're still not selling.
And so all of these assets,
economic factors, I think, confluence together to produce like a perfect storm.
And we're headed for a pretty severe economic collapse over the course the next year.
That's going to be on, I hate to hear that too.
I mean, as much grief as I like giving Canada and Viva.
But Viva, you mentioned people, the exodus from Canada.
We have a case in point that this, there's an experiment built on the, that hypothetical construct that Canadian seemed
be testing out that's already fully executed. We call it California. And it's not working so well.
It's not something that can be sustained. Well, I mean, as bad as you think California is,
Drew, Canada's basically 10 times worse. At least say three times worse. The same population,
three times as much euthanasia, medical assistance in dying, mercy kings. Canada is,
not the canary in the coal mine, but Canada is what the future of America could look.
look like when people don't appreciate that they have god-given rights that you know they have
the constitution of america didn't set out the rights of the people it set out the limitations of
the government and it's the exact opposite in can and you know people will feel those consequences
when they are micromanaged by a bunch of karen tyrants who themselves don't follow their own
rule to covid for example taxes for example the premier of nova scotia pay more taxes pay more
Texas. They've all got offshore accounts in Bermuda, wherever the hell else they have these offshore
accounts during COVID. Celebrate Christmas differently this year, literally pre-recorded videos
while they're off in St. Bart's Island because they get to go vacation because that's how serious
COVID is. So people will realize it. The only question is when Jeff says it's got to get worse
before it gets better, it's like a star collapses on itself before it becomes a black hole,
but then there's no coming back from the black hole. And I'm afraid Canada's-
criminals to go after
like we ever seem to be doing here?
In government? They're all criminals
in government. The ethics
multiple ethics violations
they're all a bunch of corrupt
scoundrels. And that goes
to some extent for conservatives as well.
Politically woke.
There's no conservative movement
in Canada. I'm sorry to say it. Conservatives
are liberals driving the speed limit
and there's
no Donald Trump-like figure
in Canada. And everyone in
Canada's too scared to assume a Donald Trump-like role to their own debt.
No, I don't think that would work there.
I don't think that would work there.
It would have to be a, I don't know what it would be, but it would not be like that.
You can't be, you're too European in your sort of essence.
It's too, it's too tied to that.
You're still have the Queens Forest, for God's sakes.
It's the Kings now.
Whatever it might be.
But listen, I've got to keep moving here. Viva, I'm going to let you go and finish up with Jeff
in just a second. But what's coming up with you and Barnes?
We got our going to have our Sunday shows. They've been banger. If everyone's been watching
them, you've been ahead of the curve. Keep following for peace in Russia. Keep following to see
what that ceasefire from Hamas looks like. What's your prediction? What's your prediction?
I do not put any, I do not place bets on ceasefires in the Middle East. But I do believe that there's
going to be peace in Russia because I don't think Zelensky has a choice.
right now. And I think the Trump has basically said behind closed doors, you're going to do it with me or you're going to do it without me, but you're going to agree to a peace and it's going to involve giving up some of the eastern portions of Ukraine. But there will be peace in Russia. Middle East, I've never been quite as optimistic about it. I heard the funniest interview of Trump this morning. He's saying he goes, you know, seven thousand people are dying a week. I can't let that happen. They want to reconvene in three months. That's ridiculous. Tens of thousands of people will die.
We got to do this tonight.
We've got to get going on this.
And he goes, look, I'm trying to get into heaven.
They tell me I'm not doing so well so far,
but I'm trying to get in.
I thought that was so funny.
Oh, my goodness.
He's the best president.
In my lifetime, one of the top three
in the history of the United States of America.
Not perfect.
We'll push back on the Epstein type stuff.
But he's the president of the world needs right now,
not just the president of Canada needs,
America needs, sorry.
All right, Viva.
We'll talk soon.
Good to see, my friend.
Much the same. Have a good one. The Viva Fry on X. And now, Jeff, so what lies ahead for you? How is this going to play out?
Well, we have until the 12th of September to submit our notice of intent to contest the $28,872.50 fine that I received. And we will be doing that. And also, we're submitting a judicial review on charter grounds is in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in Canada, part of our Constitution.
And so we're going to have the proclamation that banned us from the woods reviewed in light of the charter to determine whether or not it is compliant with, you know, the supreme law of the land.
And if it's not, then I expect that the ticket that I received will be rescinded.
And perhaps, you know, the Forests Act under which it was issued, maybe ultra-viris, looking at some of the clauses that they,
have in there. So that it's going to take time. You know, we don't have a court date yet for a
hearing, but these are the next steps. It is also the case that, you know, first of all,
the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms is providing me with my legal assistance. So if
anybody wants to help me win back our freedoms, then you can donate to them. Like I've been saying
everybody, I'm not collecting any money for this at all. I want to keep it nice and squeaky
clean and also the Canadian Constitutional Foundation is also, they've also crafted a judicial
review in the public interest. So we have my private interest standing, obviously, that's going
to go through because they find me. And then we have the public interest standing that another
constitutional foundation is submitting as well. So it looks like we have lots of time in the
courtroom ahead of us. But it's a very worthwhile fight. It needs to be prosecuted.
Do you have any plans to get back into politics indirectly? This is sort of your version of
it for now. I have maintained my profiles as a politician since the last election. And I have been
sharing a lot of what I've been saying on social media on some of those profiles. So yes, I have
every intention of staying in this battle space. It's really just kind of a question of kind of the
shifting of the key battle space. You know, it was in the politics during the election, obviously,
and now I think it's shifted back to the courtroom, and a lot of it is in the culture, so I'll be
quite busy in those other two fields. But eventually, I think the key battle space is going to come
back to the politics, and wherever the battle space is, that's where you'll find me.
well as they say your country needs you so i hope you agree succeed and i hope you'll give us updates as you move
along we'll do thanks very much jeff heavily jeff can be followed as i said on x jeff e veeel y uh people's party
of canada dot ca and oh i don't know what this is n s e p p p p c a and viva of course is
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Dr. Drew, that lipid proxidation, which is when oxygen, right, which is what we need,
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a lot of people know that as rancidity, and so this is when fats go bad, and that then
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lipid-rich organs in the body is the brain. And by the way, I like the frame of
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people understand this process. So, but the brain, the brain is full of lipids and obviously
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It's just a very fat, rich part of our body, which is great.
And our brain is obviously also where we use oxygen.
And, again, if we don't have oxygen, then...
Stephanie, I'm going to stop you for a second, because you and I use shorthand here.
When we're talking about fat, we're really talking about kind of fatty, we're not talking about adipose.
People think fat, they think adipose.
That's different.
This is related, but it's different.
So keep going.
That's right.
That's right.
It's great point. So with fatty acids, I'm just going to use the term fatty acids,
that there are lots of fatty acids in our brain. And if they're fragile fatty acids,
then they combine with oxygen, right, that is in our brain. And we need both. We need these fatty acids
and we need oxygen. But as we get older, our cells become more and more fragile. They become
more susceptible to attack by oxygen. So what happens is over time, you get this lipid proxidation,
especially in the brain. You get chronic inflammation, leaky,
blood-brain barriers, our mitochondria stop working.
It kind of becomes, our brains become a concentrated place where lipid proxidation and age-driving
lipid proxidation is happening.
And as that happens, some of the key neurotransmitters start dropping down.
I know doping endoconabinoids are affected and can be enhanced by fatty 15.
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What we're just starting to learn is it does the same function in the brain.
And our first clue came in, as we were, you know, looking at dolphins, as you had shared,
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navy dolphins we discovered that dolphins older dolphins about one in three developed Alzheimer's and
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same form of aging-related Alzheimer's disease and cognitive decline.
So we published in the journal Metabolites last year, or just this last year, that C-15
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But the take-on message is just like you said, C-15 helps to, by doing so, helps to increase
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Are people actually, are the research actually recording benefits clinically?
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decrease in anxiety. It's something we don't talk a lot about with aging, but anxiety goes
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eighth, eighth, ninth, ninth decade of life, they feel overwhelmed. It's like they can't quite
manage the sensory material that's coming in and everything is overwhelming and you'll see old
people get very sort of rattled sometimes by by changes or sudden noises and things because they're
difficulty and then triggers anxiety in them our family sort of runs the gamut Susan you had the
joint improvement right yes and Douglas had he actually reported increased energy I'm not paying
attention to any of that I want to age better that's what I'm looking for I don't want there to be
I don't want to feel anything I want to age better and that's what I'm looking for and that's what
it does for me. People say I'm aging
backwards. So
I love it. I mean
I look at the two of you
Susan you're not on screen but
you would nobody would ever just
you're amazing. You look
you both like amazing. Amazing.
So we're glad that Faddy 15 could be part of your
part of your right. We're representing
there's Susan. There's Susan.
That was like five years ago.
But still they're 60 in that picture.
I wasn't taking it yet but no when we went on
I think you were.
I think you were already taking it at that point.
When I was on vacation and I was walking all day, my knee didn't hurt.
I have a bad knee from a skiing accident.
And it usually throves.
It's sore.
And Drew was reading an ad about it.
And it said it lowered inflammation.
I said, I swear to God, this is the best my knee has felt ever.
So I think it's really working.
And I was very dismissive.
Like, I just want to age better.
I just want to get old.
So it's all good.
We're all in the same tree.
Yeah, it's kind of...
I'm taking it every day.
Yeah, it's all the kids are and stuff.
And why you wouldn't, I don't understand.
There are now these things that can really help, and this is one of them.
And I just, I just, I get kind of sad that people are not really making these things.
I guess they get confused.
There's so much out there.
You know, what should I take?
And to be fair, it kind of depends what you're looking for and what your age is and that sort of thing.
But these longevity products like Fat I 15, I think people should start in their late 30s, early 40s.
And just, that's it.
You're going to be on that the rest of your life.
And that's how I look at it.
So, Stephanie, we're going to wrap up.
Is there anything else you and I should talk about?
Yeah, I just, I think this all speaks to the Inc. 5,000, you know, award.
I think it's, there's a lot, there are lots and lots of supplements out there.
The fact that we came in, you know, Eric and I as a humble husband, wife, military family,
coming in with a gift given to us by the dolphins.
3015, you know, within four years, grew 3,000 percent.
and, you know, it's now, you know, positively impacting lots of people's lives.
It's, you know, it's, it works.
So thank you for being part of our movement.
And I hope they stick.
And I hope they, I'm happy to be part of the movement.
And I hope they stick with it.
I don't want people to stop.
That's the other thing.
Just want to just make this a part of your health routine.
That's all, period.
And a story.
All right, Stephanie, thank you so much.
We're going to want people to follow you or just, just stay with the fatty links.
Yes?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm on, I'm old.
school. I'm on LinkedIn. If you want to
follow me there, but otherwise, yeah,
go to Dr.jury.com slash
Fatty 15 to
go find you and Fatty.
Great.
Started today. Oh, what started today?
Get started today. Oh, yeah, get started
now. All right, thanks, Steph.
Okay, thank you. Bye.
We need to help Drew's
hearing with Fatty 15, though. I wish it
helped. It's just
a natural part. That's the one part of
you know what is COVID that did that to me, really.
That's the thing that really nailed me.
You've been in radio for so long.
You always have headphones on.
Who knows it's been too late.
No, I noticed it right after COVID that started on this year.
And then, you know, and it's well,
COVID is well known to hit the cranial nerves.
And then, so, yeah, you know, by the way, I want everyone to,
I'm glad you brought that up.
One quick public service announced about COVID and vaccines.
I'm seeing a lot of sort of extreme opinions about vaccines.
And I understand what you're talking about.
I understand why you're frustrated.
And yes, there has been, they are still not properly acknowledging vaccine injuries and long vaccine.
I've seen a ton of it.
I'm a thousand percent agreeing with you.
But MRI vaccines will be good for cancer.
And so far, the federal government has only taken away MRI vaccine research for respiratory viruses.
This is what the common, the mainstream media can't seem to get into their head.
That respiratory viruses are not good candidates for vaccines.
and the MRA vaccines have more risks than benefits.
So stop that research.
Continue with cancer.
These are people with terminal illnesses.
We want to do everything we can to try to reverse or delay the inevitable with a terminal illness.
And taking great risk is something we do with every cancer treatment when it's a very serious cancer.
So just be careful, you know, having two, you don't want to be as bad as the group that mandated this whole thing.
because their opinions, they did not have the biothical standing for a mandate,
and yet they decided they did and they just had these extreme opinions about them.
They were not careful.
They were not looking at risk reward.
Let's us not be like that.
Let's us be careful.
Not throw the baby out with the bathwater and not look at the risk rewards and not take things away from physicians
that could in any way potentially help patients.
You don't have to take it, but you don't have to make it a good or a bad chemical intervention,
whatever it might be.
It might be bad, really dangerous and bad and not useful in certain situations and dangerous but useful in other situations.
So just be very, very careful with our opinions.
Try to be reasoned in all these things or were just as bad as the people that brought the mandates.
Let me look at you quickly.
Have I read the latest reports from Japan?
I have not.
Which ones are you talking about?
I've seen many reports from Japan.
Let's see what else.
On fatty acids?
Probably on vacations.
vaccine injury. I suspect that's what we were kind of talking about. Yes, Eric, it did hit
cranial nerves. You know, the first, the olfactory nerve, that's numeral one, it's number one
cranial nerve. And we all know that people had buzzing in their ears, which I definitely had. That's
the, the, oh, eighth cranial nerve. And then, of course, with that buzzing, it could be caused
dizziness, cause decreased hearing as well. It's all that eighth cranial nerve stuff. I didn't have
that. I know. I woke up in the middle of the night on day two. I mean, I was already nuts, but
due day two of my vaccine of my COVID alpha delta bad COVID and it was the loudest one of the loudest sounds I've ever heard it was like I couldn't believe it and then it kind of went down and it's just sort of being a little ringing ever since but the problem now is the hearing generally is down so sorry honey
uh Emily says death's latest report from Japan deaths Emily from Japan meaning somebody's going to have to be a little more specific
The reports from Japan about deaths.
I understand.
Again, you're going to be a little more specific with me
about what exactly.
There weren't as many as they thought.
Or there were more than they thought?
I don't know.
But I am worried.
I am worried.
Here's what I'm worried about.
I am worried about the spike protein.
Excess spike protein in any setting.
Whether it's from COVID, whether it's from vaccine.
Even the fact that we are still using Spike as the target
for things like Novavax.
and the whole viral alternatives out there, co-vaccin.
I guess co-vaccin is the one where it's not using the spike protein,
but you're still going to produce some spike protein.
There are one thing to leave out of the vaccine, it would be spike protein.
We are pretty clear that is the inciting problem here,
is that particular protein.
And that's the one they clearly were munking with
to make it extra-pathogenic and extra-pathogenic and extra-infective.
So I don't know.
I don't know why we keep giving people things.
you're very, very old and you have extreme risk from COVID and you're worried about it,
then maybe taking a vaccine makes sense because it takes a while for these things to hurt you.
And, you know, that's a risk award that sort of somebody could defend.
But for a young person, no way, no way.
What is your take on the flu shot now?
Who's asking that?
Me.
I am nowhere near as enthusiastic about the flu shot as I used to be.
I've had as I think about it I've had several really bad reactions amongst my patients even though I told myself I rarely saw them I saw enough to be thinking about it now and I'm not sure what we did people still came in with viral illnesses the flu was kind of rare in our community the viral illnesses of people got were up a respiratory infection and there was some conversation in the medical literature for a while that the flu shot would reduce the risk of missed days at work from other
viruses. So I was sort of bought into that literature. I think I may have been wrong. I think that
may have been wrong. I think if you're older, the flu definitely adds significant risk and you
had to talk to your doctor, even about getting the higher dose flu shot. It's the heavy vaccine
exposure to young people that I'm beginning to be concerned about, or at least just thinking a lot
about. And I would bring it up. I'd of course let a patient have the vaccine. That's what they
wanted to do. But I would kind of bring up my concerns. Let's see.
see what you, Vax versus Dunbax, excess deaths in the Vax Group or on Vax Group, Rocket Boy.
Let's see.
Symptons of the tinnitus, that's the ringing in the ears.
Don't get the Legionnaires disease.
I don't plan to.
Why are you going to give me Legionaires?
You're just looking at us thinking we're old and we're going to get Legionaires?
What is that?
It's a pneumonia that old people get.
You get it classically on cruise ships and things.
But it's easy.
It's quite treatable.
So the impact regarding cancer occurrence related to VAC status also being looked at.
I know, I'm sure I'm aware of that.
But again, I think it's the spike protein.
That's the issue on that.
And again, what is COVID?
What is Vax?
What is both?
It's going to be a while before he sewed all that out.
So patience, diligence, caution, careful thought.
In the meantime, many other things to occupy us.
Do we know who's coming up here, Caleb, next week?
I guess Legionnaires is in New York City.
Is it now?
That's what she said.
Oh, I see Steve Hilton is running for governor.
Is that next week?
No, it's the week after.
Okay.
No, that's next week.
Next week.
Next week, Steve Hilton and Art Kleinsman.
She comes.
Yeah, we're moving Rosanna around.
Art's the best.
Art from Samsa.
I see Rosanna the 27th.
We'll see.
Salmon Godak, the doctor, the doctor down in Brazil.
Art Kleinsman at the 28th.
Let's see.
Oh, great.
Gruel.
What's this?
Judge, wait a minute.
Fake butter with Andrew Gural, the chef.
Can talk to us about that.
Kelly's coming in tomorrow while we travel.
Good.
So we're traveling tomorrow.
So Dr. Kelly Victory will join you all tomorrow.
Oh, you Kelly Victory fans.
She's coming in tomorrow.
I know that makes you guys happy.
Set your tivers.
And she's interviewing Dr. Ryan Cole, who also will make you guys happy.
He was one of the first pathologist to report the sort of weird
clotting phenomenon. And now we have Dr. Peter McCullough documenting specifically the activation
specific problems with the clotting cascade again caused by the, guess what, the COVID, the spike
protein. So all right, everybody, sorry about the late start. Sorry about the late start. Appreciate your
patience with that. Caleb, good job getting this up and running. Thank you for flexing your nerd muscle
today, Drew. I take. Stephanie and I get together every time we're very nerdy, the two of us.
And same thing.
Same thing happens with Kate Chanahan.
These biochemists, I'm not a biochemist, but I'm very good biochemical training,
and I'm fascinated by it.
So when I get my hands out of biochemist, I flex my nerd muscle.
That's what I do.
All right, everybody.
We'll see you on Tuesday.
Next Tuesday again, Kelly Victorine here tomorrow.
Then we're off on Thursday.
And then we're back on Tuesday.
2 o'clock, Pacific time.
See you then.
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