Ask Dr. Drew - Cyclospora: What The Media Is Getting Wrong About The “Explosive Diarrhea” Parasite – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 644
Episode Date: July 16, 2026Cyclospora is spreading across the USA, and the media immediately began its familiar campaign of panic by calling it an “explosive diarrhea parasite.” Dr. Drew examines the press coverage of the s...ummer outbreak and the effect of “gell-mann amnesia” that causes people to trust the media during a crisis even when they know the news media frequently twists the facts to fit a narrative. Cliff Maloney, co-author of “Run Right: A Complete Election Playbook to Win,” discusses grassroots organizing and the door-knocking ground game heading into the midterms. Plus viral commentator “Uncle Clif” Lewis on work, accountability, and going viral for speaking his mind. Cliff Maloney is an activist from the Philadelphia suburbs and CEO of Citizens Alliance. He’s a coauthor of “Run Right: A Complete Election Playbook to Win.” Follow at https://x.com/Maloney “Uncle Clif” Lewis is a veteran auto technician from Columbia, MO, and a dedicated family man who loves cars, family, and anything loud. He went viral online with raw, no-filter rants on life, work, accountability, and current events. Follow at https://x.com/ClifLewis3 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - https://kalebnation.com • Susan Pinsky - https://x.com/firstladyoflove Content Producer • Emily Barsh - https://x.com/emilytvproducer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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All right, I'm going to give you a little disquisition on cyclospora in about 40 minutes.
First, I have two cliffs.
I'm going to tell you about them in just a second.
Let me read to you from the CDC website.
I just clicked on it.
This is current to the moment.
As of July 13th, more than 400 people infected with cyclospora have been reported to the CDC from four states.
2,700 is the usual number at the end.
of the year. So there's going to be a lot more. It appears to be that there are some regional
outbreaks and those people live in those regions need to pay attention for sure. And doctors and CDC
and epidemiologists need to pay attention. You do not, it appears. It does not. It's an easily
treated illness. If you have immunocompromise from chemotherapy or cancer treatment or you're very old,
you might want to pay attention, especially if you're in a region where there's been an outbreak.
But I'll give you all a specific.
You guys ask me lots of good questions, including is Ivermectin, one of the treatments.
I'll tell you where we have treatment.
It is in this medical emergency kit, but I will explain to you what that is in about 40 minutes.
In the meantime, I've got the two cliffs lined up.
Cliff Maloney, co-author of Run Right, a complete election playbook to win,
discusses his door-knocking ground game that won the midterms,
and viral commentator Uncle Cliff,
the auto technician who went viral,
saying simple truths,
and I just love Cliff.
I just want to hear his wisdom,
and you will enjoy it as well,
and I'll share it with you in about 20 minutes.
First, Cliff Maloney after this.
Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre.
The psychopaths start this,
he was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography,
PTSD,
addiction. Fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous.
I'm a doctor for
I say, where the hell you think I learned that?
I'm just saying, you go to treatment
before you kill people. I am a clinician.
I observe things about these chemicals.
Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on
Lovelin all the time. Educate
adolescents and to prevent and to treat.
You have trouble. You can't stop and you want to help stop it.
I can help. I got a lot to say.
I got a lot more to say.
Cliff Maloney is a grassroots
activist, a grassroots
activist from Philadelphia.
suburbs there. He's CEO of Citizens Alliance. By the age of 34, his teams of door knockers had
knocked on more than 9 million doors in the United States. Confirm victories in 41 federal
state and local elections. Roger Stone nicknamed him the godfather of door knocking, co-author
of Run Right Complete Election Handbook. You can follow Cliff on X just at Maloney, M-A-L-O-N-E-Y.
Pretty good deal that you got that X handle. Cliff, welcome.
Thanks for having me, Doc.
So how did you get involved in all this?
Yeah, so it was actually Ron Paul back in 2010.
I was a freshman in college and I really just dove in.
You know, Ron was kind of an inspiration.
I think I had a pretty similar path that I read about you where I was kind of much more
the libertarian type and, you know, COVID.
As I was getting involved in these campaigns, you know, COVID was a huge wake-up because
there were a lot of people, you know, even people they call themselves libertarian and conservative
that let the fear mong green get to them. And so since the 2016 cycle, I've been putting
together door knocking operations. And it's not a fun game, but it's great job security because
nobody likes to do it. All the logistics and all the details. But Ron Paul was my entry point,
just fascinated with some of his ideas and always wanted to figure out how can I effectively
make Liberty win.
What's interesting to me is in this state of California, particularly in Southern California, we feel completely helpless to affect elections.
It is just 60% one way, 100% of the time, which should tip us off that something isn't quite right.
And there should be some way of mixing up at least the election process.
I think a lot of people are aware of what happened with the mayorial case.
can't in the mayoral race here when you know at the last minute somebody did what you do is that
what you is that what you suspect happened and they were able to not even door knocking and they were
you know sidewalk knocking go out they're getting homeless people to sign up yeah and look I always
tell people you know we do a lot of door knocking a lot of chasing ballots but I'm not the one that
says hey I like the rules right California proves that I mean Spencer bratt I love Spencer I think he ran a
fantastic campaign I think his messaging was raw was real was authentic
It should be something that every Republican does.
Here's the problem.
You can't win based on the numbers and based on the rules in areas like that unless you run as a Democrat.
And so the math, you know, in the book I talk a lot about you have to pick the right place to run.
Now, look, I'm not saying you shouldn't run like a Steve Hilton statewide in California.
I'm not saying that.
If people want to do that, sure.
But the real way to build these things is to do it locally, right?
Go as local as you can in blue states in areas where you at least can move enough people.
to make a difference. But if we're talking swing states, you know, what I do at Citizens Alliance
is we work backwards from the presidentials, right? So 2028 being the next presidential election
this year in 2026, we look to see, okay, where can we go door to door that will have the greatest
impact, not just on the midterms, but also on the 28 presidential election. And so you look at states
like Pennsylvania, like New Hampshire, Nevada, Arizona, those are some of the key areas that if
were in those states building in 2026, it's going to lead to permanent infrastructure and a chance
to be successful, whoever the Republican is, in 2028. That's how we map out what we do at Citizens
Alliance. I'm sorry, I'm so preoccupied with what goes on here in Southern California. What is it
about this region that makes it impossible? Well, it's just a numbers game, right? I mean,
if 60 to 65 percent of all the registered voters, you know, either identify as Democrat or
vote for the Democrats typically, the ability to transform that. I mean, that's why AOC still wins,
right? She might be insane. She might be a lunatic. But I talk about in the book that when people
walk into the voting booth, we are in one of the most polarized times in American history.
So a lot of people they walk in, they're not looking at the name, Dr. Drew. They're just looking
at the party, right? Some states allow you to actually, you know, vote straight ticket, where you don't even have
to, you literally could just push the button, but they're not looking at the name. And so,
So when 50 to 55% of people are walking into the booth and voting for the Democrat, it becomes
almost impossible for any independent, any Republican.
And so the way to get that transforming is to go local, get enough people furious.
Because look, eventually California is going to go red.
It might take 50 years.
It might take six years.
But eventually people are going to get so tired of the policies that they're going to flip
over.
They're going to change parties because they're going to want reform.
Unfortunately right now, it's going to have to get a lot worse before enough Democrats say, you know what, we should go a different direction.
But something is wrong with our voting system here.
This is what I'm sorry to harp on this with you, but I'm looking at four reports, KTLA News, LA Magazine, Los Angeles Times.
Voters are glum.
Voters say L.A. County's headed the wrong direction.
most voters are not aligned.
They're not going one party or another.
And yet there's something that has it end up a certain way every damn time.
Even though everyone agrees that party is doing a bad job, not everyone,
the majority agree that are doing a bad job,
and they're not aligned with that party.
Yeah, well, look, I call this phenomenon.
When you look to Congress, there's a crazy phenomenon where
congressional approval ratings, I mean, they're less than nickelback, right? They're like
8% of people in America approve of what Congress is doing. But then if you ask them about their
congressman, it's like 98% approval because it's their guy. And this is just a facade that I think
a lot of voters run into where, you know, they have to walk in. And one of the biggest things
that has to happen is you have to convince a voter that they were wrong. If you're trying to take out an
incumbent or if you're trying to, you know, have a party beat another party, you have to convince them.
that two or four years ago when they voted, they made a mistake.
And that's very difficult to do, not in local races.
But when you get into the big mayoral races or the statewide or congressional races,
there's just so many low information people.
I'm not a politician, so I can say that.
But there are so many voters that do not have the full picture,
they're walking in and voting for a party or somebody that they've heard their name of.
And that's why the name ID game can be so tough.
I don't know.
Spencer was certainly winning that game.
Again, and he won it.
and then it was taken away from him by some maneuver that was legal, as you said.
You don't make the rules.
It's some rulemaking.
But what would you advise people do in a place like this?
You said, you know, don't run here or run as a Democrat.
Yeah, what I would do is I would advise, you know, one of the, there's 18 steps in the book.
We talk about going from thinking about running for office to then actually running, winning,
and staying principal, but we break down all 18 steps. And one of the first steps is to pick the
right district to run in, right? So if you're thinking about running for something like mayor,
and it's impossible to win, but there's some local council or local municipality that you can
run in, and it's more of a split district where there's enough Republicans or Democrats,
or it's at least winnable. Focus there. And one of the things I talk about is you really have to be
careful about losing too much, right? This is why the Libertarian Party, I've got a lot of friends
over there, but it almost burns people out because all the activists, all the donors that put
forward, you know, 50 or 100 bucks, when you lose, you know, one, you don't legislate, but two,
you burn everybody else out. So my advice is if you're in a deep blue state, find races that
you can win. And through those campaigns, that's how you'll change hearts and minds. That's
how you start to build around the ideas you care about.
What was, what's wrong with running as a Democrat?
No, if you're in a deep blue district and you want to win, that's the only way.
The problem we have, Dr. Drew, is a lot of people, at least, you know, with the liberty
principles I believe in, it's going to be tough to win a primary, right?
Because if you don't stand for a hundred hour minimum wage, right, you're going to get run out
of the primary.
If you don't stand for all the woke stuff, if you don't stand for, you know, masking 365 days
a year. Unfortunately, in a primary, it's very tough because a lot of the radicals, you know,
they'll kind of call you out if you have any type of what I would call rational views.
But that's what the Democrat Party is today.
Wow, that's interesting. So who else other than somebody who's going to run for office
or contemplating running for office should be reading the book?
Yeah. So we have tons of different, you know, campaign activists. So anybody that's volunteering
or wants to work on campaigns, you know, I spend a lot of my time, Dr. Drew, trying to talk people
out of running for office. So even people that are thinking about running, you know, yeah, read the book,
but don't be surprised if I kind of lay it out there for you. I mean, if you're going to run for
Congress, are you really prepared to sit in a locked room for eight hours a day begging people
for money for six months? You know, like I don't like to sugarcoat it for candidates. And I talk a
lot about fundraising, not because I think fundraising is great, but so many of the grassroots
candidates, the good people that get into it for the right reasons, they don't realize you're
walking into a game where usually two candidates, if they're both not incumbents, their name ID
is like 2%. Nobody knows them. And so what does that mean it becomes a money game? Who can send mail?
Who can get on TV? Who can knock the doors, but pay all this money? And so when people are raising
hundreds of thousands of dollars, you can't really go out and just raise 500 bucks and then wonder why
you lost, right? Because they're talking to voters consistently. So candidates, anyone that wants to
get involved as an activist or a paid campaign worker. And really, anybody looking and saying,
hey, I want to learn about the process of how these campaigns actually work. In the book, we talk
all about our 2024 efforts. We ran the ground game in Pennsylvania for Trump. We talk a lot about
different Charlie Kirk stories. And Charlie and I were partners, us being in Pennsylvania with Citizens
Alliance, him being in Arizona and Wisconsin with Turning Point. And we just talk about how kind of
We learned a lot of these different things.
And I'm always getting questioned by people, why are you telling this so that people on the left will know your game plan?
And I say, listen, the left has about 150,000 books out there talking about how to run.
We don't have many, if not any.
So this is about lessons I've learned, getting it to strong conservatives, people that are rational and really want to make a difference,
and getting them to learn the lessons that I went through without having to make the same mistakes.
the lessons that you went through so it took a while to how long to take you to sort of come up with this this
worksheet yeah so i mean i got involved like i said back in i guess 2011 um but i've been doing this
professionally for about 10 to 12 years uh the 2016 campaign was eye-opening uh because what we
started to see is that the left was paying all these full-time door knockers and we were not so we had
volunteers, they had volunteers, but then they were paying these people. And so it's taken me
about eight years to get a lot of people bought in for people to understand the value of this.
But we go through case study after case study in the book of why spending money on door knocking
compared to making phone calls, compared to sending mail, TV, and digital ads, why it's the
most effective. And it's the toughest work to do. One out of every nine conversations you have at
the door is going to earn you a new vote. And so to us, you know, we can break down that cost
per door. We can understand, based on the left's literature, there's a great book called Get Out
the Vote, where they talk about what it costs and how many times you have to try each method
of electioneering to earn that new vote. And so we just overlay that with our case studies
to show why we have to keep building at knocking doors if you're on the right and want to see
Republicans win.
Are you creating satellites all over the country?
Are you staying focused just giving advice through writing books, that sort of thing,
and focusing on your local measures?
So, I mean, obviously, you know, we're always giving advice.
But, I mean, my day to day is we're out there.
We're knocking doors.
We're chasing ballots.
In some states, you can actually chase the requesting of ballots.
So the four states, like, laser focused on for 2026, leading up to 2028, being
Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Nevada, and Arizona. Those four states, I think, are critical to
2028. And just in 2026, we've got a swing Senate district in New Hampshire that could go from blue to red.
We've got governor races in Pennsylvania, Nevada, Arizona. All of them have swing districts at the
congressional level. So that'll dictate control of the U.S. House. But remember those four states,
if we build that infrastructure. And by the way, Dr. Drew, we don't leave. Right? This isn't a,
hey, we're going to be there just for six months leading up the election and then go home.
We're doing what the left does.
We have been there since 2024.
We have not gone home.
And we are going to continuously be there through 2028, working backwards to try to put
whoever the nominee is for the Republicans in 2028 in a position to win all four of those states.
We win those four states.
We cannot lose the White House.
That's the math.
How do you create that kind of a network?
How do you pay them or is it just volunteers only?
How do you do that?
So it's 100% we lead with the paid folks.
Yes, we will bring volunteers in.
But our model is we put everybody in Airbnbs.
We give them gas cards.
You know, we put some snacks and stuff.
We have all the tech on their phone.
We give them literature.
And honestly, they're in the Airbnb's and they go out six days a week.
Morning meetings at 9.30.
They knock from about 10 o'clock to 7 at night.
to get an hour for lunch.
And a typical day, somewhere between 75 to 100 doors, they're going to knock.
But those are the programs.
And, I mean, the way we got to knocking 9 million doors is, yes, through volunteer work,
but it's about training people, going out and requesting and getting people to soliciting.
I mean, soliciting applications itself is tough, but we're training constantly,
and these are professionals.
You know, this is the CLT team coming in, talking to as many people with quality conversations,
and doing the work that the left has done for years.
But that's kind of a basic day in the life of a door knocker who's out chasing ballots.
So help me understand what is it people that just have a passion for politics?
Do they want to one day be in government?
Who do you recruit?
And where should they go if they're interested?
Yeah.
So if people go to DoorsWinWars.com,
Doors WinWars.com.
That's our tagline.
You can see all the different programs that we're running.
and if people want to apply, if anybody wants to sponsor a ballot chaser in one of those states,
$175 covers a full day.
But the secret sauce to what we do is we hire based on ideology.
Now, the attorneys always don't like when I say that, but it's a political job, right?
If somebody wants to sue me for, you know, somebody having a different, but you have to believe in the cause.
And so that's how we really have built this list of people that are interested.
And we've got a lot of people that have been door knocking with us for six, seven, eight years because they enjoy it.
They get to do what they're passionate about and they get paid to do it.
This isn't some freebie thing.
They're making an okay living, but they get to be in the fight for the principles and the causes
they care about.
So when we're interviewing and when we're soliciting applications, we're looking for people
who are going to be really attached to the candidate they're knocking for and the set of
principles that candidate is running on.
I know your laser focused on those four states, but after you finish that war,
please send some of your troops over this way,
see if we can kind of just move things around here a little bit.
It's very demoralizing what's going on.
So, all right, listen, Cliff, I appreciate it very much.
Again, tell people where they should go to see you
and where they should go to sign up
if they want to be a part of the project.
Sure, on X at Maloney.
You can get the book.
Yeah, if you want to check out the book,
run right book.com.
And then if you're looking to knock doors with us,
DoorsWindWars.com.
Dr. Drew, appreciate you.
Love the show.
Thanks for having me.
Thanks, Chris.
Appreciate you being here, Cliff.
Cliff Maloney, everybody.
Maloney is the X handle.
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Cliff is a auto technician from Columbia, Missouri. There's Cliff. He is a dedicated family man who
loves cars, family, and anything loud. He is viral for his rants on work, accountability,
current events, self-described, pardon me, as that a-hole that speaks his mind and is not interested
in your feelings. Not interested at all. No. No, sir. Cliff, how are you? I'm pretty good. How are you doing today?
Good. Where do you think we got so far sideways with feelings? Adam Carolla thinks it's because we don't have,
that we've silenced men essentially. And it's easier for men to say, F, your feelings, the way
I've heard you say a few times.
What do you think?
It's silence and feelings isn't the goal to it.
It's people need to stop making their decisions based on their feelings.
You know, if you had a daughter that was getting beat by her boyfriend,
regardless of how much she loves her,
her feelings shouldn't matter.
Her wellness and how she's doing.
Her well-being is what her parents are looking out for.
your feelings, you need to leave that situation because you could end up dead. Simple.
And people let their feelings guide them.
A great example.
They also, people are fearful of being, I don't know, canceled essentially, are fearful of offending
somebody.
And so they have all these kinds of feelings flying around that affect their ability to express
themselves.
Welcome.
I mean, seriously, in life, does your boss care?
that you were tired and you had to take care of your sick child until 3 o'clock in the morning,
he doesn't care.
It's fuck your feelings.
I need you to get this job done or you can go home and I'll replace you with somebody else.
And a mother, if that child is sick, regardless how tired she is, she's going to sit up all night with that child.
That's right.
To make sure the well-being of that child has looked after.
Any normal human being, if they see a child that's lost or walking around, their feelings go out the door and how tired or were there.
at or what they were doing, their concern
completely switches to
what is more important. And people
choose to not look
at what's important, which
a lot of people like me, I
made a bad choice as a kid not
looking at the detriment
and what it can lead to down the road.
And that simple thought
or my feelings and emotions
or it's going to be fun or
nobody will find out or I got
away with it last time. That
feeling of that enjoyment right then,
could cost you down the road detrimentally.
Did you have some sort of a consequence that caught your attention?
Me?
Man, there's been a lot of consequences.
I don't, I was raised.
My mother told me, you're born, you're black and you're male.
So you're looked at as a threat.
So you have two strikes in life.
So the best thing you can do is learn to properly handle yourself, good manners, be respectful, and get an education.
because you're going to have to do the job,
but you're going to have to do it twice as hard
to prove that you deserve that job.
Regardless of how you want to look at it,
and the thing is,
if my mom taught me this and her father had taught her that,
when did that start of,
if you already know the challenges you're up against,
when did the thought of not facing them change to,
well, I quit.
I'd just rather have it given to them.
It wasn't like that before, you know.
It's we had to go get it.
We had to prove that we deserved it.
I grew up and we respected people and we respected them until they deserve disrespect.
When they were disrespectful, that's when it's time to get disrespectful.
But a person holds the door open for you, you say thank you.
It's like if you hold the door open for somebody, you would hope they would say thank you.
But kids today will walk by and just look at you like you're crazy for simply being nice and holding the door open.
It's people have no manners, no morals, no more.
and it's actually my generation's fault
to drop the ball and didn't teach it.
It occurs to me
that what your mother was
suggesting to you
could also be kind of turned around.
You know what I mean?
In the sense that a gun is dangerous
if it's pointing at you,
but if you hold it in your hand,
it could be a tool.
Can you flip around this thing you're causing,
what do you say, threatening about being a black male
to being strength,
and an asset to somebody who's
team you're on.
Exactly.
It's if you,
they always say,
you know,
I was dealt this hand.
Well,
I know,
if I know the hand I was dealt
and I know the cards
you're going to play,
I should be able to play my hand
amazingly because I already know
every card you're going to play.
And I know how to get around this card
and around that card
because I know my hand and I've already shown,
you've already shown yours.
So why people stop
You know, you practice in sports.
You train to get better.
Why didn't we train our kids to be better in life and look for what's going to be expected?
How are people receiving?
This is very positive, very, very, you know, uplifting messages.
How are people receiving it?
Nobody likes to hear the truth, especially when it exposes yourself.
You know, as I always say, nobody likes to look in the mirror.
The mirror is where you start.
Because you can't criticize somebody if you're doing the same thing.
You know, I'm not the greatest person in the world.
Yeah, the other thing is it suggests hard work, you know, diet and exercise also.
And people don't like to hear that.
They want some sort of shortcut or something.
And they're saying that was, I don't know there are shortcuts in life.
What's that?
You're seeing that with celebrities.
I mean, it's, being my son is a diabetic.
I watched the 50-50 humulin disappear simply because they wanted to produce more weight loss drugs.
Now, where society came that they want more and will pay more for a weight loss drug than somebody's help.
That don't even seem right.
Them companies quit making.
The other thing is there's even another piece in what you're describing there, which is the 50-50 goes away and some more expensive insulin shows up.
that's, I think, more where they're headed with that.
Yeah.
I know, I listen, I have no, I can't defend the medical system.
It's just so out of hand right now.
Just like the government, I don't know what to make of all of it.
It's just, it's not the system I was involved with, you know, when I was really going.
But what is in your crosshairs these days?
What's, what do you, I need some, I need some Uncle Cliff.
What's worrying you?
What do you see?
What are your solutions?
Right now, the issue with society is simple.
Nobody looks at fairy tales anymore or old-time stories.
And my story today is simple.
It's the fact of the little boy that cry wolf.
Everybody remembers that story.
And right now we have people in society that continue to cry wolf.
You know, and at first, when it would happen, you know, the village would run.
They'd run to support and back that little child up.
Oh, you shouldn't be doing that shit.
And a little boy would just laugh and giggle because he made it all up.
And eventually people quit coming to his rescue.
And then people started questioning it, like, is he really, is he playing or is it a joke?
And right now, you know, it's you have, well, you're only doing that because I'm trans.
You're only doing that because I'm black.
You only, no, I'm doing it because you actually don't have the credibility.
to have this job.
You know, and people don't want to hear that.
They want to make an excuse.
I'm tired of crying wolf.
Quit crying wolf if it never happened.
People quit. They're tired of hearing racism, racism, racism.
Especially if you can blind, you can see with your own two eyes.
It didn't occur.
But that's their excuse or their chord that they feel will get them out of the situation.
They're crying wolf.
And then when it actually happens, nobody wants to pay attention.
because you've lied about it so many times.
It's worthless to, we don't know if you're lying or telling the truth.
No, yeah, listen.
That's what I see.
I've been saying it's a hysteria, and it's not just around the racist claims.
It's around, you know, this cyclospora thing, the diarrhea I'm going to talk about in a few minutes.
It's about COVID.
It's about hanta virus.
It's about, you know, who's doing something in government.
Oh, somebody's doing something.
And then when somebody is doing something like having a Nazi tattoo,
we can't even hear it through all the noise anymore.
It's Nazi tattoos don't even bother me.
It don't in reality.
I mean, it's my wife's father has one ball.
Her father, her biological and her stepfather that raises.
Both of them have.
You know, it's one of those.
Now, let's do, I want to drill into that.
Were they just, were they in the military and just drunk one night and did that?
Or where'd that come from?
Actually, it's one of those that Union, Missouri is not a, of course, the name Union,
Confederate all over the, you know, walls and everything.
Very, very, it's weird.
But it's one of those, they were on that bad side of the life,
and they ended up in a prison situation.
And when you get put in that situation, you're either one side or the other.
But I tell people all the time, it's not a person that's racist.
A person has learned how they've been treated by somebody.
If you walk down the street, you kick a dog every day.
Eventually, that dog is going to expect you to kick it.
So if a little white kid is beat on and picked on every day because he walks through his black neighborhood to get to school, he's going to hate black people.
If a person's every time their interaction is with a different culture, it's bad.
They're automatically going to assume that every time I see that person, it's going to be back.
And that's how her fathers took that situation as they met me in how happy I made her, their daughter.
And how she was doing in life, they understood the person.
And me being, I've been to prison, I understand.
You either pick a side or you stand alone.
I understand what you're doing.
And they're in their 70s, so they were doing it when they're wet, no cameras.
And you were getting poked and stuck.
And it was just, they were, it's a bad way back then before, you know.
So I can't be mad at them.
I just happy now that my 10-year anniversary and her father walked her down the aisle and cried.
It's he under.
Congratulations.
It is, whenever people have studied situations like you're describing,
the way to break people, even if they've been doing it their whole life, is contact,
a relationship with a human being like you that represents this thing that they are afraid of or whatever.
And it immediately changes the whole play.
The board changes.
Everything changes for them.
They still might have some residual stuff, but they're much changed just by having a relationship.
One.
One will do it.
One positive.
one positive contact.
But I tell people all the time,
you don't know what they're thinking
unless you sit down and talk to them.
If nobody ever has the conversation
or brings it up,
it's never going to be a solution.
I have no problem saying
what everybody else is thinking.
Because you think the little church lady
and the black church ain't saying,
don't you have them kids,
don't you have my baby around them hudoms.
Don't be over there with that girl, she fast.
They say the same things.
They just don't want you to know
that they say,
same thing. That's, you know, that's, that's, they, everybody has their own. Cliff, I hear you,
I hear you. I know that to be true. Why do people then vote for representatives that make their
life harder, not better, or continue to fail them? They don't know no better. I, I was blessed.
My mom, in our family, I have all females. They're all, I have aunts and all cousins are all bros.
And their goal is they all have to have one degree higher than their mothers.
That's just a factor.
My sister's a doctor and psychiatry.
It's weird.
So I get a lot of lectures.
But it's one of those.
Yeah, she's a childhood psychologist.
So me and my kids has been a thrill for her.
But it's one of those that you have to, we were all taught and pushed.
to do better.
You know, we have to lead by example.
And if we don't, we can't talk bad about what happens.
I spoiled the crap out of my kids and my aunt Connie told me,
you're going to get what you create.
So when they ask for things,
it's because I used to spoil the crap out of them
and I'd give them about anything they wanted.
But if you learn to.
Are you optimistic for the future?
I'm hopeful.
I think things will get better.
because we'll go back 20 years.
20 years ago, when I started my job, I came home from prison.
My biggest giggle when I got home is a lot of the girls that I tried to talk to in high school before I went to prison.
The first thing they would say is my dad would kill me if I talked to a black guy.
And then we're talking late 80s, early 90s.
My dad would have a fit if I was talking.
And I come home and all of them got mixed babies.
so I know time changes.
Man, it's like, man, you come to Missouri, you'll see it.
They're everywhere.
It's good.
That's how it changes.
I think we're changing more than people realize.
That's why it's so weird that we want to sort of make it a huge problem.
It's a problem, problems, problems.
We should be celebrating our progress, you know?
It should be.
And the bad thing is it usually ends up, it's a grandpa.
ends up with a, whether it be
some kind of mixed child,
whether it be because
the white guy ended up with an Asian
or the black girl ended up with a
Mexican, it's when they end
up with something they are forced to
accept that culture and learn
about it, that's when the
understanding and the change comes. Because they have
to, because they want to accept that.
You're absolutely
correct. And not only that, but
you love your grandchildren, kids,
whatever genetics they have.
And so you just, you just, it's not even a question.
And so, you know, that, that is where I think, I think it helps people.
I do.
All right, my friend, it's always good to talk to you.
I hope you'll come back.
I need, people should follow you on X.
What is the handle again?
I'm Uncle Cliff on X.
Oh, well, it is.
It's X.
And what is, what am I seeing?
I'm looking at Cliff Lewis 3.
something? That is
me. That is what you would tag.
You type in Uncle Cliff, you'll find me
and the only one Cliff Lewis.
All right. Keep
up your good work, my friend. We'll talk again.
I hope to see you again.
Thank you, buddy.
See, you see why I like talking to him?
I feel better when I talk to Cliff.
There's certain people that I like listen
to and I like to talk to because they
help me navigate this world that feels
so negative all the time.
Yeah, Cliff is great. Okay, so speaking of negative, Cliff's open with the boy that crawled wolf, which is a version of Gelman amnesia.
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So, the old man amnesia is a reference to a famous physicist who noticed that every time print press,
Like he'd read the paper every day.
Whenever there was a story on physics,
he'd go, my God, they get this wrong every time.
And then he'd go on to read the rest of the paper
about complex politics and international relationships and economics
and assume the rest of it was correct or accurate.
That's called Galman Amnesia.
The fact is none of the news gets anything right,
especially these days they don't have the manpower,
they don't have any investigative power.
they don't report thoroughly and they don't get the facts straight.
I dare you to have them write an article about you sometime
and you'll see how many millions of miles they are from who you are
and what they believe you are versus what you actually are.
So, Gailman amnesia.
So here's something, for instance, cyclospore is an opportunity to talk about
gel man amnesia.
They got this completely wrong.
Can't them throw up first the promo?
Don't throw up.
The promo from today.
Okay?
I want to put that up there.
Okay?
So you reported from NBC News.
There it is.
Nearly 7,000 cases of cyclosporiasis confirmed or under investigation nationwide CDC says.
So 7,000.
If there are 7,000 cases, that would make it roughly 1 in 60,000 people.
Please play the lottery if you think that is going to be.
because you're more likely to win at the lottery.
So one in 60,000 individuals.
And it's in regions.
It's not everywhere.
It's zero most of the country.
So now let me read to you directly from the CDC website.
This is the, what's this page called?
This is cyclospryosis outbreak unknown source.
Click through that, Caleb, and go to the epidemii, or scroll down,
the epidemiology.
Here's epidemiologic data.
Okay?
So CDC health and regulatory officials
and several states are collecting different types of data.
Here's the epidemic.
Here's the incidents.
This is the CDC website right now.
As of July 13th, more than 400 people
have been infected with cyclospora.
That means the other 6,600 that NBC News reported are suspected.
They are not confirmed.
you don't think there's a little hysteria going around every time somebody gets diarrhea.
I'm going to check for a cyclist more every time a patient shows you with diarrhea.
That's now a suspected case.
Just because we have such a high level, I got to hand it to L.A. County.
L.A. County, who did a horrific job during COVID.
They had this red, yellow, and green epidemiological pattern that if we didn't get to zero COVID, we wouldn't be out of lockdown.
The green was, we're still not in green.
We would still be in lockdown if they'd stuck by those stupid random and arbitrary rules.
But they just sent out those of the 31 states where it has been reported.
But by the way, in the actual documented cases, only Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, and Kentucky.
So in fact, it's only so far.
Now, there's going to be more.
There will be more.
There's 2,700 cases on the average year.
There was a huge outbreak during the Biden administration.
They're trying to make this a Trump story.
They're twisting themselves into pretzels to make it a political story.
It is not.
It is a routine.
It is an outbreak.
And CDC and doctors need to be aware of it.
I want to go back to a thing about L.A. County.
I got to hand it to them.
They sent out a sort of a, not really an encyclical.
It's an announcement.
They sent out these announcements of what to look out for.
And it just is, hey, be aware of this thing's out there.
Here's how to test for it.
Here's how to treat it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We will do that.
It's treated, as I said, with triethyphtaphym sulfamothoxazol, which we put in this kit, this
emergency medical kit, is called sulfa.
It's something you take if you get a urinary tract infection typically as well.
That's what we put it in there for.
It is also sometimes used for staph infections and pulmonary infections and, in this case,
infectious diarrhea. Ivermectin does not work for this infection. I have seen some data that
curcumin might work. I would suggest you take sulfa, unless you're sulfa allergic. If you're
penicillin allergic, does a higher possibility. Is there another word for sulfa?
Sulfa. It's just called sulfa. Okay. But backtrum. Bactrum or septra. Bactrum or septra.
It's also good for urinary infections and, and stuff like that.
If you are allergic to any of this, if you're allergic to penicillin, you may have a higher
probability of being allergic to sulfa.
Be very cautious.
Do not take sulfur if you're allergic.
We have a cyprophloxicin has been shown to be useful against cyclospora as well, though not as
effective.
So there are other alternatives.
You can try the curcumin.
I wouldn't advise that necessarily talk to your doctor about that.
It's essentially a spice, but it's good for an.
anti-inflammatory things.
But I don't know.
I just read that, but I would not do that.
So let me continue with the epidemiologic data on the CDC website presently.
The true number of sick people in this multi-state outbreak is likely higher.
I agree.
It may end up being as high as 7,000.
So that will be three times, let's say, the usual summer of glycospora.
The outbreak may not be limited because some people recover without medical care.
and are not tested, right?
In addition, recent illness may not be reported,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
Public health officials collect many different types of information,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
400 cases, everybody.
In specific regions,
the only reason it is really been,
we've made remark of it,
as opposed to Klein Wolf,
is we don't know where it's coming from, okay?
It's been thought to come from raspberry and lettuce and basil.
And I think there's one other possible source.
What about water?
Like maybe if you had ice cubes and a drink.
It's really thought to be a vegetable or fruit source right now.
And water washing these fruits and vegetables off does not remove the cyclospora.
You have to heat it up.
So cook your spinach, everybody.
And here's the deal.
There are doctors out there advising that you don't eat vegetables, which I find mind-blowing.
If you live in an area where there has been a document.
outbreak, right? There are outbreaks in certain regions in those four states I mentioned.
And you are very old, very old, or you are immunocompromised by cancer treatments.
Well, then you might want to avoid. And they may have you avoiding that stuff anyway, because
remember salmonella? Then we've had salmonella outbreak. Should we, it's around. Should we panic about
that, everybody? Yeah. My God, this is, it's so frustrating. So we have a person on Rumble who had it,
Went to the hospital for two days.
Cynchospora.
Sirius as a heart attack said, went to a party and spent two days in the hospital.
And it was documented on, how was it documented?
Maybe we shouldn't ask.
How was it documented?
Can this person tell us that?
I told them to call and they go, why?
Yeah, call in.
Tell me how it was documented.
I wonder how it was documented.
Like, do I do I have to talk about it?
And I'll tell you, after he answers that,
I'll tell you why I'm asking that question.
Sounds like a woman because a diet.
Yeah, Taco Bell is pulling his lettuce, which is just the only thing in Taco Bell that might be nutrition.
So I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
I mean, we should be serious about it on some level.
If you get cyclospora, it is not fun.
If you get COVID, it's not fun.
If you get isospora, it's not fun.
If you get Giardia, it's not fun.
If you get salmonella, it's not fun.
These are all common infectious illnesses.
common and they are not fun.
It's not fun to get an infectious disease.
But should you, if you have a 1 in 60,000 probability of getting this thing,
should you alter the course of your life around it?
Does not seem like that we are.
Careful where you, what food you eat.
Where did that person, did that person come and talk about how they were confirmed with cyclospora?
Went to the hospital for two days.
No, it does not.
It still could be seed of a seal.
which is even more common.
It could be a lot of things.
There's a very specific and special cyclospora needs a very specific and special workup.
And what we're understanding here is that a lot of people get diarrhea and go to the hospital for other stuff.
Correct.
And it's summer.
Worldwide, worldwide oral fecal transmission of infectious agents,
probably the leading cause of death in the world.
It's just we don't have that problem here.
on a cruise ship and somebody picks their nose and puts their finger in the mayonnaise,
you can get a diarrhea as well.
No, you get vomiting.
You get staff.
But here's the deal.
What happened to Hantavirus?
What happened to bird flu?
What happened to the, I mean, we were in a panic about Hanta virus, Hantavirus, Hantavirus.
And we told you, Ebola.
What was it, Ebola or something?
It was the other in the DRC.
Yeah, Ebola.
No, there's something else, the DRC, the Congo.
E. coli.
You didn't.
No, Ebola.
E. coli is around.
It's around. Douglas had E. coli.
It's really nasty. It's terrible.
Yeah, it was bad.
Terrible. And sometimes you need to be in the hospital.
I don't, I believe there have been 80 hospitalizations for cyclospora so far.
It doesn't say that, interestingly, on the CDC website, which I find it sort of odd.
Let me read more of what they have here on the website.
Surveillance of cyclospora.
As of May 1st, 2026, CDC,
as 1,645 confirmed cases.
I was before this outbreak, before the outbreak, right?
And is aware of more than 51 cases that require further analysis.
So this is back to the 7,000 number.
But only 400 have been confirmed in this outbreak.
Now, there will be more.
It is not fun.
I'm going to say it over and over again.
And people who are at special risk need to pay attention.
We used to see this kind of thing a lot with our AIDS patients, a lot.
And it was, we didn't have good ways of treating it back then.
So YouTube Star on YouTube said they had cyclosporidium.
Cryptosporidiosis is not cyclospora.
In the late 1990s is another infecting agent.
And it's really nasty.
Treated with bacterium and metronidazole.
Yes, thank you.
That is not underlying nuts.
Cyclosporra. That is cryptosporidium. That's another common thing that's out there. So you see how
frustrated this is? Well, maybe they don't know whether it was one or the other, but you trace to strawberries.
You don't call cyclospororias. It's completely different diagnosis. Completely different way of
documenting it. You two stars said both, like a slash between the two. I don't know what I can see where,
now, how would you end up with both? It doesn't make sense, unless you have AIDS or you're a post-cancer patient or something.
It doesn't make sense as a due time thing.
And it suggests because cyclospora, the test is so specific and so sensitive.
One of the arguments about cyclospora right now is that we're over diagnosing it because we're using PCR.
Yes, what?
We're using, it has to have a PCR.
Remember PCR from COVID?
And people saying, oh, is it really?
Well, now we have, remember people saying, oh, there's not really an increase in autism.
and we're just diagnosing it more frequently.
Well, that same argument is being used with cyclospora.
And we are, in fact, diagnosing it much more accurately and much more frequently than we ever did
because the PCR is very, very, very accurate.
However, it's been around for about eight years.
So in the last eight years, we've been diagnosing it more readily.
But a lot of doctors don't know to, we do a thing called, we do a culture and sensitive.
and Ova and Parasite.
Guess what?
Cryptospiridium will show up on those tests.
Do they dip it in the diarrhea?
Yes, you put diarrhea in the cup, yes.
You do a stool sample.
Doesn't that spread all over the hospital?
You do this.
You do a stool sample.
I do them in my office oftentimes.
You do a stool sample and you do Ova and Parasite.
You do culture and sensitivity.
That will pick up cryptospritiosis.
It will pick up isosporahra, particularly if you ask for an acid, fast,
stain and sometimes you'll do a
yosinophil stain but but
what's it called?
Shit. Okay, another kind of common stain.
So you will not, hang on, but you will not
pick up cyclospora.
You have to ask a special test.
Well, the PCR in a lot of places don't have that.
Caleb, do you want to ask any of the questions that people have?
Just to be clear though, U2 Star said they had both and it's in their lab results.
So what lab result?
The lab result.
It's not, again, that's not cyclospora.
Okay.
Cyclospora is a very specialized test.
And it's a yes or no.
And so it's not in the lab test.
Cryptosporidium is in the lab test.
On the paperwork.
Okay, he'll send it.
Okay.
I'd love to see it.
Contact at Dr.jude.
I would love to see it.
Give us some reading material on this.
But by the way, cryptosporidium is awful.
So I'm sorry you went through that.
And no one was going to.
Just the medical system, but you know what you're getting.
So, Caleb, anything of these questions that are listed here that I haven't not gotten to yet?
Yeah, so some of the stuff that we were seeing earlier, people were asking,
how do you make the lettuce safe to eat if they already have the lettuce in their house?
You, if you are very old and if you're immunocompromised and you're in a region that's having an outbreak, don't eat it.
That's pretty simple.
Okay?
If you are in states that were not at all amongst the four,
especially those that are not amongst the 31,
where there's some suspicion going on,
yeah, the only reason this is a story is because we don't know where it's coming from.
And guess who's got to figure that out?
The CDC, that's their job.
That's the kind of stuff.
And then they need to advise people like me,
not NBC Nightly News.
So that is why I'm frustrated.
Anything else, Caleb?
Yeah, people also want to know,
are there any long-term health effects that come from if they catch this?
Well, if you're very elderly, these bad diarrheal illnesses can kill you, right?
If you have immunocompromise, but so far, no one, no deaths so far.
And I don't really expect any.
There are many, many other infectious diseases that will kill you.
Now, what if this is a communist plot?
No.
And somebody poisoned us and they're going to make you look bad because.
Here is how Susan's brain works.
Whenever there's something unexplained, CCP.
It's a pretty interesting way to live.
One of these days she's going to be right, by the way.
A broken watch is still right twice a day.
400,000 people get sick.
We're going to blame it on China.
All right.
150,000, everybody, is your risk.
Talking about the media and the headlines because we were looking.
So right after, you know, they had COVID, then they had monkey pox.
Then they had, what was that other one?
That other, that other, the contovirus.
Contavirus.
And then the contovirus disappeared.
And they were talking about what was the one going on overseas.
But apparently Ebola, there's still an Ebola outbreak.
All of these are news articles from in the past 24 hours trying to hype up an Ebola outbreak.
Right.
They have Ebola on a regular basis out there.
They know how to handle it.
They see the, again, the politicizing of it is to say, oh, USAID used to handle it.
No, no, no.
The DRC knows how to handle this.
They're very good at it.
And could we help them?
Yes.
The State Department has money to do so.
So I hope they will do so because that's good use of the money.
But an NGO that's going to, God knows what they would do with the money.
All right.
Anything else, Caleb?
That's the, I'm looking for the last one.
And so I think I feel like I.
Yeah, well, the last one is they wanted to know the difference between this parasite and then other food.
illnesses like, you know, food poisoning or E. coli. What makes this so different? Yeah.
It is a protozoan, right? These, each of these, these kinds of infecting agents have different
mechanisms of survival and pathology and growth and transmission. A lot are oral fecal
transmitted. As Susan said, there's one that comes
from the nose. The staff typically comes from
the nose. And some cause
just vomiting from the toxin
and some cause actually
erosion of the lining of the colon
and inflammation of the colon.
That's where the diarrhea comes from.
And each of these things
have effect on the human body that's not
good, which is why
you want to avoid your exposure to
them. They proliferated
us as part of their life cycle.
and that's how they get spread.
They get to the soil, they get around into the vegetables,
and they live to infect another day.
But these are all very different kinds of pathogens.
The protozoans are different than the fungus,
which is different than the bacteria.
These are all very, very different.
And they have different ways of irritating our bowel, essentially.
So, Drew, should I order you that salad for dinner?
Yes, 100%.
Get me that salad.
100%, please.
please we're not in a concern area and I don't have immunosuppression so and I have my emergency kit handy
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