Ask Dr. Drew - Davos Alert: UN Plan To Cut Real Meat By HALF w/ Tim Hinchliffe; The Kennedy Curse & American Blessing w/ Sean Stone; How Addiction Recovery Helped Adam Nimoy Reunite with Father Leonard Nimoy – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 583

Episode Date: February 7, 2026

Tim Hinchliffe is reporting live from Davos. A recent UN report urges total transformation of the global economy and human behavior – and the proposals are alarmingly close to the WEF’s “Great Reset” plans. “The United Nations Global Environment Outlook regurgitates the great reset agenda,” writes Tim Hinchliffe, who say the UN is “pushing to reduce meat consumption by 50 percent and encouraging diets consisting of plants and fake, lab-grown meat.” Adam Nimoy joins to discuss his addiction recovery and how the 12 Step program helped him heal his relationship with his father, Star Trek actor Leonard Nimoy, who also struggled with alcoholism. Sean Stone reveals what he discovered about the legacy of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. while directing the documentary “RFK: Legacy” with his father Oliver Stone. Adam Nimoy is a TV director and author of The Most Human: Reconciling With My Father Leonard Nimoy. He has directed episodes of NYPD Blue, Ally McBeal, Gilmore Girls, Star Trek: The Next Generation, and many others. He previously worked as an entertainment attorney and music industry executive. Follow at https://x.com/adam_nimoy⠀Sean Stone is a filmmaker, actor, and documentary director. A graduate of Princeton University, he worked extensively with his father Oliver Stone and directed films including Greystone Park and documentaries such as A Century of War and Hollywood, D.C. Learn more at https://instagram.com/therealseanstone and watch the documentary “RFK: Legacy” at https://www.angel.com/movies/rfk-legacy⠀Tim Hinchliffe is an editor at The Sociable and a contributor to TruthTalkUK and Wide Awake Media. His work focuses on technology, global governance, digital identity systems, and technocracy. Follow at https://x.com/TimHinchliffe 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • AUGUSTA PRECIOUS METALS – Thousands of Americans are moving portions of their retirement into physical gold & silver. Learn more in this 3-minute report from our friends at Augusta Precious Metals: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/gold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or text DREW to 35052 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://drdrew.com/vshredmd • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

First up, Adam Nimoy, television director, author of The Most Human, Reconcealing with My Father, Leonard Nimoy. We'll talk a little about that. We'll talk with some addiction recovery with Adam as well. And we will talk then to Sean Stone. He's a filmmaker, actor, documentary director. He has worked extensively with his father, Oliver Stone, directed film, including Greystone Park, and talked a little bit about the RFK and documentary about RFK Jr. And then finally, Tim Hinchcliffe, editor of the sociable and a contributor to Truth Talk UK and wide-awake media. And we're going to talk about the overreach of the globalists, which is a constant concern of ours. We will get into that and more right after this. Stand by. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre.

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Adam has been involved with television as a director. He's directed NYPD Blue, Ally McBeal, Gilmore Girl, Star Trek, The Next Generation, many others. And he worked as well as an entertainment attorney. As they say, the grass has not been growing under his feet. Adam, welcome to the program. Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure. So, you know, the book was interesting.

I had a lot of mixed feelings as I read it. One was, and I want you to, I don't want to divulge too much, because we want people to read the book. But talk a little bit about your dad's upbringing, because I had sort of similar stuff myself in terms of many of these immigrants who were running away from Western Europe, and ultimately it was the Holodomor.

It was interesting. I think in your book you said that he identified as Russia, even though they were Ukrainian. I forget what part of the Russia they were from. But we had the exact same thing. They just called themselves Russian. And one day I found out they were Ukrainian. And I was told by a Ukrainian woman that might be because Jews in Ukraine were never given citizenship.

They were called citizens of Judea residing in Ukraine. Isn't that interesting? Yeah. I mean, I didn't know the distinction either. My grandparents at that time, you know, this is the 1920s. is all considered a part of a Russian empire. They didn't see themselves as Ukrainian necessarily. They spoke Russian and they identified as Russians.

They immigrated to the United States. They ended up in Boston in the mid-1920s. My dad was born in 1931 and grew up in the west end of Boston, which was this immigrant bubble of Russian Jews and Irish and Italians. And his whole MO, his whole objective was to try to find a way to get out of the West End because it was very insulated, you know, and he really wanted to be more of a part of American culture. And my grandparents had no clue what it really meant to be integrated with the rest of America.

Well, and God forbid he wanted to be an actor or be in show business. Oh, my God, kill us now. That must be. And then he essentially went, I don't mean to the streets, but he went and did anything to scratch together some money, right? Yeah, I mean, you know, look, my grandparents expected him to follow their version of the American dream, which is you're an immigrant.

You have children. They go to college and become doctors and lawyers. My dad had no intention of doing that. His older brother was the academic. My dad was not academically inclined. And he got the bug to get into the acting profession very early on. When he was young, he was on eight years old. He was on stage in the West End.

They had a theater there. And that's what his whole goal was going to be. So when he informed them that he wanted to be, that he wanted to go to Hollywood, it was as if he had told him he wanted to run off and join the circus. They were devastated. And as a result, they were intent on not helping him at all financially, economically. So he came out on a three-day train trip to Hollywood with very little money and no connections. I mean, it took a lot of hoodspout. And he had a struggle. I mean, it was a lot of our jobs in L.A. to keep himself afloat. And that was in 1949. By 1956, when I came along, I have an older sister,

He had a family afforded support. So it was, in addition to going on auditions and studying his craft, he was working a lot of different jobs to try to keep cash coming into the family. And I feel like, you know, I know you had a lot of ambivalence in your relationship with your dad, as most sons of fathers do, right? I felt like you held your own with him. It was a little bit of a shit sometimes, but I felt like he kind of held your own. Is that, am I getting the right picture? Yeah, no, I appreciate your saying. that. I needed to. He was very difficult to deal with. I mean, when I was a kid, I was very

not connected to him because I was born in sunny Southern California. This is a Depression-era kid, and he was too busy working all the time anyway for us to relate to one another. But I had, you know, my mother was very loving. I had loving maternal grandparents. And I had a self-sense, self-confidence, you know, that I had my own objectives and my own goals. And I needed that to be to stand up to him. And even then, it was devastating being in conflict with him, all made worse by the fact that he was an admitted alcoholic. And I was your average run-of-the-mill, everyday wake-and-baker, pot-smoker. We didn't have any tools of recovery to help us figure out how to relate to one another. You couldn't even use together. You couldn't be using buddies.

No, not at all. But he gave you the intellectual horsepower clearly. And, and, and, and, that's nice. And I think he was jealous, you know, because they had it so rough. And here you're living in Southern California. You know, the sidewalks are paved with gold as far as he's concerned. And they're very conflict. I think it's a very similar situation. And I saw a lot of this from that population. They're very conflicted about the lives that the next generation led. But then you went further into your disease. Well, yeah, I mean, yeah. I mean, it was just something that I was, you know, kind of fallen into for 30 years day after day. My dad was an alcoholic for just about as long. You know, look, we were both high functioning. That's how we were

very similar with one another. And my dad, you know, on the one hand, was very proud that he could pay for me to go through law school and college. And on the other hand, he was a little bit resentful that I didn't pay for my way to go through college and law school. Right. Right. Perfect. Yeah. So. It couldn't be any better. No, but I mean, exactly. I mean, it was kind of a double-edged sword. My relationship with Leonard was this weird combination of incredible experiences. I was very proud of my dad and what he had a call. I love Spock. I mean, you know, you look at the cover of the book. It's me and cosplay with Leonard. You know, I mean, I was one of the first fans. I'm one of the first Trekkies. I was always proud of the work that he had done. But we were, it was coupled with

these incredible, intense, conflicting, you know, episodes with one another. We were just in verbal warfare off and on for 30 years. And it wasn't until he got into recovery. You went sober. And I went into 12-step recovery that I found the tools that I needed to figure out a way to reconnect with. We were strange from each other. Did he go in the program? You framed that. You used some language there that I'm tuning into. He just stopped drinking or did he go in the program? Well, he was briefly in the program. He mostly stopped drinking. He went to, he started going to me. he took me to my first meeting with him. I had never heard of the 12 steps before.

And when I heard step nine, making direct amends to such people whenever possible, I was furious with him, but I couldn't say anything because it wasn't safe to, but he never made an amends to me. And then after that, he stopped going to meetings. He didn't have a sponsor.

He didn't have commitments. He was not working a program. And then several years later, about five years later, is when I went to the program, and I was doing the work of the program, which is how I was told, I took the direction to go making amends to my dad,

even though I felt that he had owed me one. You know, my brother's sisters in recovery didn't care about that at all was not my concern. Right. My job was to go make an amends to him. How'd that go? I was not pretty. It was not pretty.

I was not, I faked it until I made it. You know, I didn't want to do it. I just, I didn't want to. But, you know, I trusted the people in recovery that I was, you know, that I was talking. to and I just I hope that the feeling would come along. I'm glad I did it. My dad had written a six page letter to me about all of my failings, all the reasons why he thought I was the problem in the relationship. My fourth column of my fourth step, we call it, which is my character defects.

And they wanted, you know, I was told to go make an apology to him for everything he had written in the letter of his criticism of me. And I didn't really enjoy the experience, but I was trying to be sincere in taking responsibility because unfortunately all of his feelings about me and my shortcomings were in fact true. I had made a number of mistakes in my professional life and in my personal relationship with him. So I try to take responsibility for it. He, on the other hand, was really enjoying the experience of me making an amends to him. So much so that when the process was over and he was walking me out the front door of his home, he invited me to a Shabbat dinner the following Friday night. And after that, everything changed.

in our relationship. Everything changed. In a good way? Yeah, we reconciled and had a very close relationship the last seven or eight years. You see how cleaning out? There's always, in a relationship, there's always both sides of the street, right? And you get to clean up your side. That's just the way it goes.

And the fact that he doesn't is his problem. Though it sounds like he carried a lot of resentment around with him. And you too, you still got some resentment hanging around. We both had it. We both had. And this was my opportunity, you know, to make an amends to him was my opportunity to let go of my. The immense wasn't for him. It was for me to let go of my own resentments.

But the interesting thing. Of course. Yeah, but when I made the immense to him, he himself was also ready to let go of his resentments. And that's why he made an overture to me to come to dinner. And after that, for the next seven or eight years of his life until he died in 2015, we were pretty close and never looked really back at the wreckage of our path. It's just 12-step recovery. You had a very, the word I'm looking, prolific career as a director.

And you did entertainment law. That's a lot, right? Okay. If you say it felt like a lot at the time, yeah. I mean, I was very lucky that I could get out of practicing law, which was not my life's calling. My dad's whole mantra was being passionate about the work you do, and I was not feeling it after seven years of practicing.

And he was the one who actually helped me make a transition into television directing. And it was something I really enjoyed and loved doing. I wanted to be just like him. I wanted to be a storyteller, just like him, even though I tried to create my own identity separate and apart from him by going into law school and into practicing law, which was something he could never do. So when you wrote this, well, I guess I'm asking why you wrote the book, what motivated you to do so.

But it's, I thought it was a very inspirational positive book, even though I know it was a conflicted journey. It really is a very positive journey here, right? Well, yeah, I mean, I'm celebrating the fact that we managed to figure it out and reconcile in our relationship. That is what the book is about with the help of 12-step recovery. Look, I'm dealing with Leonard Nimoy. This is a guy who is loved and adored by millions of fans of love of the world. People don't want to hear a trash talk about Leonard. And it's not. You know, I am honest about some of the things that happened, but I'm very careful to show that I was always proud of the guy and I respected the fact that the family, that I was simply not a

priority of his because he was desperate to survive, to begin with, number one, And then when Star Trek came along, it just took up all of his time. And he just didn't have time to focus on me or the family. And also the fact that we had this huge generational gap. You know, we just, he couldn't really, we couldn't rely on ways to relate to one another. And that's why it's not a blank name. Yeah, and regional and cultural. There's a lot of stuff going on here.

And he, and he was, you know, he's traumatized by his economic situation. And by the way, his parents were traumatized. and rained their shit down on him, you know? It's his multi-generational thing. I see it all the time. We're sort of heading towards the exit here, but I was, William Shatner's name came up today.

I'm sure you spent plenty of time with him. And he came up in two contexts. One was like, God, he looks better at 94 than he did at 85. The guys, that's amazing. And he's so sharp. He's unreal. And he has the funniest ad going around the internet right now I've ever seen. a raisin brand commercial

where it's Will Shat here, Will Shat in the house, Will shat in the car, and it's a raisin brand commercial about shitting. And he's in on the joke, you can tell, he's cracking up the whole way. And I just think it's just so, such a,

they must have been an interesting pair together. Well, they had a lot, it was an interesting relationship. There are a lot of ups and downs, a lot of competition, They were very close in age. Bill is just a few days older than my dad. Two Jewish boys in Hollywood in outer space together.

A lot of competition during the original series. They had a very close relationship for a while and then more conflict thereafter. So it was a lot of up and down. But the fact of the matter is, without Bill Shatner's take on Captain Kirk, we would not have the spot that we've come to know and love. And my dad admitted that many times over.

That's interesting. And then your dad ultimately died of another addiction, which is cigarettes, right? He died of emphysema. Yeah, I mean, he had quit smoking a decade before it caught up with him. But he had COPD, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. He had trouble breathing, and that's what finally caught up with him. That's a tough illness. It just emphysema is the old term forward.

I don't even use that term anymore. But, Adam, is there anything that I missed or anything you want people to take away about this journey? Let's say they don't read the book. I'd like them to because I think it's a lot of fun. And it's a inside baseball and behind the scenes and very personal and I think honest and accurate. You know, a lot of things that people try to do honestly, it's like, they're kind of distorted. Your ears are truly open and honest here in your storytelling. Anything I missed or anything you want people to know.

Yeah, I want to say that, you know, you don't have to be an alcoholic or an addict to be in recovery. You know, 12-step recovery are just tools to live, you know, life on life's terms. It's very challenging being on this crazy wild planet that we're on, you know. And, you know, and the fact is that I'm hoping that there's something that resonates with people. There's a lot of people that I meet. When I share about my story in 12-step recovery, a lot of people, you know, anonymously, these people don't know them related to Leonard anymore. A lot of people have dysfunction in the family.

But everybody's recovering from something. Yeah, but everybody's recovering from something, whether it's a failed relationship or a drug or alcohol issue or a loss of a career, loss of a loved one, some physical infirmity, everybody's in recovery. If you're not in recovery, you're in denial. So I'm hoping that people find something that resonates with them that they can find useful in their own lives.

That's the point of the book. And I will say to bring it back to sort of the, headlines at the present moment. There's an executive order issue by President Trump where we put Catherine Bergen, Bergam, and RFK Jr. in charge of this essentially addiction treatment initiative. But in the head of SAMHSA right now,

the Substance Abuse Mental Health Services Administration, between the three of them, the head of SAMHSA, RFK Jr., and Catherine, who's a recovering alcoholic, and of course, RFK is a recovering heroin addict. And the guy at SAMHSA is a recurring meth addict. 12 Step has been under attack

by the bureaucracies in the world. I don't know why. I don't understand it. It's why the streets are filled with drug addicts because you're not allowed to bring them to meetings. You're not allowed to tell them. Our own governor here in California has said is, oh, it's the craziest thing ever to tell people they should get sober. It's dangerous

and terrible. That was one of the most disgusting statements I've ever seen. 12 step is back in the news. It's back in the model is back. It's evidence-based. It's time that we get back to basics and really do this right. Well, I agree.

It worked for me. It may not be for everybody, but the fact is there's a lot in the program that I have found incredibly useful. Without it, I never would have figured out how to deal with my dad, ever. I needed the tools, and I think they can be very helpful to other people. Look, there's no authorities in 12-step recovery. You take what's useful and leave the rest. You know, it's just a very, it's a very,

it's been very helpful in my life. I'm 22 years sober. I thought I would dry out from pot for a couple of years and I'm still in recovery because I love it and I love the lifestyle I'm leaving today. Adam, thanks for being here. Where do you want people to find you?

They can find me on www.wadamnemoi.com and all my social media handles are there. Hey. Great. Oh, look. Live long and prosper.

Yes, indeed. Live long and prosper. I grew up in your times too. All right, see you soon. Thanks for having me. Take care. You bet. If any of you are not of the era, this is how Spock would greet people.

It's that live long and prosper. So you don't know that? Do you know that, Susan? Is that nano? That's my whole title. No, no. No, it's just you live long. No, no, no.

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Yeah, sure. My father executive produced it with me. I directed it. And my father was the main interviewer for the conversation with Bobby Kennedy Jr. That's why I got confused. I kept seeing your dad in it. I'm like, I guess this is his film? I got confused.

Okay, but good. great project what would you learn what did i learn uh where to begin uh you know we started off with the intention of telling a parallel story i think what excited me was i've known bobby for a few years going back to actually uh about 2019 right after the montanto case that he was a part of that uh you know that landmark case to sue montanto for damages um and uh in california and uh and and basically basically on the heels of that, you know, when he was sort of a call celebrity. In fact, I understand that Netflix is still working on a movie about that case.

I don't know if they'll actually put him in the movie or not because he's become so controversial for the left. But so having known Bobby for some time and a friend of my, he's a friend of my father's as well. So, you know, we supported him when he wanted, he launched his campaign in 2024, right, late 23 for the presidency. and it just came up as an idea of what about showing this kind of parallel of the two lives of RFK senior who as we know died on the campaign trail in 68 and then Junior launching it in a

time when he was trying to heal what he saw you know what we see as a very divided country and carry on his father's legacy so I wanted to tell a story that you could say challenged the media's portrayal of him their legacy as portrayal of RFK Jr. As some kind of bad seed, right? The guy that's gone off, you know, he's been off the rails here. And I was saying, well, actually, no,

he's very, I think he's very much carrying on the tradition of his uncle and his father and challenging the establishment. And so that's very much the argument that we wanted to make in this series, I shouldn't stay in this doc. And not only, no, that I would argue that he's, I mean, his challenges require, a lot of legal knowledge and deep reflection and an extraordinary capacity to read scientific literature, which he has. He has all that. And I've interviewed him several times. I know him,

and I backed his presidential campaign. And the fact that he has become controversial to the left is bewildering. I know it's bewildering to him. It's bewildering to his wife. And it's just he is trying to do good is what he's it's all he's ever been interested in he told me by the way i don't know if you mentioned this in the documentary but or when you're doing the documentary but he said this job is the is like he was created for this job like this is the best job you could ever imagine having as the head of uh hHS do you tell you that certainly certainly um yeah you know he's he said publicly that he dream you know he's basically prayed for a position like this to be able to uh help the children in this country especially.

Going forward, we know there's, as you know well, you've got these, you know, a massive amount of autoimmune disorders and chronic illnesses. And, you know, we've seen it in our own lifetime, the fact of how many kids are getting cancers and things like this. It just, it was so rare when I was a kid, it was like you hardly ever hear about it. And now it feels far too common.

So is it weird, though? I wonder, you and your dad, is it not, is it, The left used to be who took on the elite and the status quo. What happened? What, what, what, what, what, what, how did people even, how did even the center take that on, let alone on the right? Yeah, it's, it's all, it, in a way it's flipped, I, I still try to get my head around some of these things, but, you know, we saw, well, we focus, so, so part of the story that we, that we

elucidate is this attack on on rfk junior starting around the mid 2000s and remember when he first started questioning uh vaccine safety back in you know 2005 six seven that time frame i mean he was still on the john stewart's show and colbert show and things like this but um essentially the you know big pharma and the mainstream media kind of got got into lockstep and wanted to squash this concern, you know, the concern that was not really originating from someone like RFK Jr., it was coming from parents, you know, some of whom we show in this, the film, you know, the ones who said, look, I took my kid in, they got a shot, they had an immediate reaction, you know, that's empirical evidence, right? So there's something going on here. And rather

than listening to the parents who are giving, you know, thousands and thousands of whom are telling these stories, were meant to just dismiss, you know, dismiss your, you know, eyes and your in your own instincts as a parent and just listen to you know big pharma and uh you know and of course as we know when it comes to studies there's so many things that you can manipulate uh you know when it comes to uh you know data right you can manipulate a certain amount of course and so and so you know someone like r fk junior became you know he became uh sort of at that point he was you know he was they already were you know okay we like him on the environmental stuff but we don't like him on vaccines. Fast forward, that's from the left perspective, right, because so many people

have bought into the dogma, the science. And then the science of vaccines obviously now became a national urgency, so-called, during COVID. And so he was one of the few voices of sanity at the time, right, when he was saying, listen, I think, you know, we have to look at, we have to look at proactive early treatment, you know, techniques that doctors are using. And again, listen to the doctors that are treating patients, which is what hydroxychloroquine, and other techniques, these were doctors saying, I'm using this and having success. Well, don't listen to the doctors.

Listen only to Fauci and the guidelines of WHO and the health services and whatnot. So again, I think of Bobby as someone who actually is responsive and listens and is not a bought and paid for, like many, as we know, many politicians and many bureaucrats and many people within, you know, even white, you know, white lab type, you know, white lab coat types, you know, who are just, they're following the paycheck. And Bobby's issue is, you know, that he actually is listening to people. Oh, oh, for sure. And I thought it was interesting that your dad during the interview, and you could not resist, but get into the assassination and is sir and sir and sirhand guilty or not.

And it's actually a very complicated and not what people think it is landscape. And you guys get into it a little bit in the documentary. Yeah, I mean, we have to. I felt that growing up, I mean, I was part of JFK, the film as a kid. I was in the film and then, you know, saw it so many times and have been immersed in at different points in researching about it. See my father not only do the film JFK, he did a follow-up documentary. That's JFK revisited, it's called, that focuses on the documentary evidence that's come out since. You know, more and more files were released over the decades. More information has come out, obviously not all.

I don't think they'll ever, you know, we'll never have all the official sources. But my father has certainly been very passionate about showing that the Warren Commission case against Oswald is very weak. And so, you know, the follow-up, of course, was the murder of RFK. And we, you know, in the documentary, we've, I think, focused on the main thing being the forensics. and if the forensics show that RFK Senior was killed by a bullet

basically about three inches from behind and he got shot about four times from behind three of them hit one passed I guess through his his jacket but the point is if the bullets are coming from the back

and Sirhan is firing from about five six feet in front of him and you know Seerhan unloads his weapon and there's more bullets that have been, that are, you know, the evidence shows more bullets were fired than could have come from Siron's gun. Well, then you've got a problem. You've got a conspiracy. So, so we just wanted to focus on the things that were provable. And then we get into some of the more speculative space, which is the mind control aspect, which we know exists. We know, we know this is, you know,

MK Ultra type of programs. CI had many, many programs of that sort. And most of that evidence was destroyed. As you know, the Helms, CIA director, when he left, basically, you know, he, when he was fired by Nixon and what, 72, 73 around the time of Watergate, one of the main things that we know he did was to order the destruction of the mind control files. So the fact that we have any evidence of the MKLTRA is only an accident of finding a few boxes worth of, you know, files that remained. And the majority of the mind control projects, we know only based on some witnesses coming forward and, you know, on certain amount of speculation.

But we know that these were very real programs to control people, as you know, with all kinds of collaboration with foundations and hospitals and doctors. And, right, the white lab code types, you know, to see how they could manipulate the human mind and body and see what they could get away with. No, they were doing some crazy stuff, for sure. It was right next door, they discovered, really have to do opiate withdrawal treatment.

They were addicting prisoners to opiates and methadone was kind of developed there. And then down the hall was where they were shooting people with LSD and controlling their brain. Oh, I think Caleb is just sending a note to me, says that we need to have a docu series from you and your dad on MK Ultra. Is that in the making? Yes, please. America. Well, I'll tell you, I did a series. this is actually relevant to the Epstein files coming out.

It's called Best Cap Secret. It's on Vimeo. I couldn't distribute this through Amazon or something. It gets into very dark things around human trafficking, pedophilia, the occult rituals and all the evidence. Again, just focusing on the evidence that we've seen publicly, right? And so that's through my website, shan's dot info. People can watch that series.

And I do get into some of the elements of the mind control. programs that we know about. Can we get to the RFK documentary there too? Or is there somewhere else you want people to go for that? Yeah, I mean, it's the RFK doc, everything in terms of my work is accessible through my website. Sean Stone.com. People to the RFK doc on, let's say it came out through Angel Studios, which Angel has their own app.

But people can also watch through Prime or Apple or, you know, any of the other pay-per-view platforms. Okay, so it's on the streamers, like Apple and... Yeah, Amazon. And again, so your website, you said it pretty fast. Tell me again the website. Sorry, my name, shonstone.info. Dot info, okay.

You can talk about Epstein and all that chaos that, you know, is coming out of that. You know, how much of this is real, you know, but if you, if you've looked at, into the occult and all that other stuff, the trafficking. It's real. It's so scary. You know, I made the series and we touched upon things like some of the things that were ridiculed a few years ago, like a drain of chrome, right? The idea that some of these kids that are harvested.

So we know, obviously, hundreds of thousands of kids are being trafficked every year globally. It could be higher, but from, you know, the statistics. And some percentage are probably going. into some of these networks, not just sex slavery, but even ritualistic things. And so the adrenachrome was a top hot topic, as you know, that came up about the idea of people drinking harvested blood from basically, as you know, the adrenaline from fear and whatnot creates this kind of almost like a drug that basically some people are buying, right? And I put the documentary out, And then I talked to a military intelligence guy.

And he said, you know, I know Adrenochrome is real because we monitor, you know, the various cartels and operations that they're running. And he said, that's when I saw the word adrenachrome for the first time was in monitoring the traffic networks. It's true. And then also, like, these rich people are trying to get stem cells from the abhorne. boarded babies of women that are trafficked. And it's just like, oh my God. Like, but you know, it just always sounds so far-fetched. Like, oh, gosh, this can't really be.

But now we're seeing little bits and piece of it, pieces of it coming out. It's just, it's freaky. Yeah. I mean, I look at things that are evident. Like Alex Jones broke into the Bohemian Grove, right? Where there's like the annual retreat. And it's a bizarre ceremony. they have called the Cremation of Care.

And if you've seen the video that Jones released, you know, it's just a bunch of elites, powerful people, you know, and their friends and whatnot coming to this gathering, all male, and basically watching the ritual sacrifice of a child.

Now it's not a, it's not a real child, but the whole ceremony is around the burning in effigy of a child in affidion. So, you know, makes you one, Yeah.

Humans have done that throughout their history. I mean, religion is what put, I mean, Christianity really, and maybe Islam and Judaism to some extent, all put a stop to the sacrifice thing, at least converted to animal sacrifice. But we have sacrificial impulses. I mean, it came out in the French Revolution. It came in. We just do we do these scapegoating sacrificial purges. You mean we men, not women? Listen, the cancel culture that's going on right now, and that is a version of that.

And Me Too is a version of that. People being canceled, if you're, you know, you're sent to the cornfield. If somebody points your direction, that's it. You know what I'm referencing the cornfield, the Twilight Zone where Billy Mommy's this little kid and they treat Billy so carefully because if he doesn't like you, you're out to the cornfield. You're turned into a, you're turning into a scarecrow, essentially. So good times. All good stuff.

I didn't think we were going to get into this stuff today. One last thing before we wrap up, you had a program on RT America for a while. And I find it just so bizarre that people got paranoid about that. In fact, in France, they arrested the woman that was a Russian immigrant French citizen who was managing the RT in France. just got a job and just was doing her job. And Shatner had a,

we were talking about Leonard Nimoy William Shatner in the last section. William Shatner had a couple of shows on RT America. But when... Didn't you go on one? I went on a couple of his shows there. I remember them telling us, oh, this is a Russian-owned company. That was when Russian America were sort of day-taunting a little bit. They were getting on a bit.

But in that, and I'm curious about something you said there about Oprah, Winfrey banning war and peace in her book club. Did you, that to me was just like, that was an interesting and odd statement. And how could you ban, does she just ban great literature? Because what is that? I, you know what? I think it was, that was my misunderstanding. You know, a lot of times there's, as you know, there's a lot of memes and news that

circulates. And this was right after the Ukraine-Russia war started. And I think it was a fake news thing. Basically, it was a satire, right? Like an onion or a Babylon B. Basically saying the Oprah's banned war in peace, basically saying, because at that time there was such a theory about Russia, right? So it was like, let's ban everything Russian.

And so I think I read it and thought it was a real news bit. It was probably fake news or satire. But the point was that there was a lot of hysteria around Russia. AI gets me all the time, not just Babylon. on B. Oh, now it's scary. Mike, yeah, I know. Mike Ben today talking about the climate change,

sort of business, the business of climate change. And he says he thinks that the reason that all started was an attempt to undo, to undermine the Russian oil business. Like if we get rid of hydrocarbons, the Russian oil, and everything was Russia, Russia, Russia, at the time. And even climate change was an attempt to stick it to Russia. Listen, I don't know the entire history of when they started pushing, you know, the renewables en masse. I mean, I'm a fan of things like nuclear fission and fusion processes, hydrogen.

But when it comes to windmills and things like this, that's basically taking us back to the 17th century, I think that there's been a plan. We know there's been a plan for depopulation, and this is not just Bill Gates. This goes back for decades. Go back to even NSEM, was it 200 or something, that Kissinger, as, you know, in the State Department pushed to basically try to control the population of foreign countries at the time.

But certainly, amongst the elites, for decades, they've been talking about this issue. As you know, Club of Rome back in the late 60s, early 70s was pushing this idea of the population bomb that we've done. basically reached peak, you know, what do you name it? Capacity for the planet. There's no more living room. All these different agendas were being pushed.

So they've been trying to figure out how to, you know, scare people, I think, and to de-industrialize societies. And now I think we're going to, we could see the consequence of it, not just the collapse of population, because, you know, we've been seeing the last few years. It's like there's actually, in terms of the birth rate, there's actually been no, I don't even think we're reaching parity at this point. Like there's been such a reduction in the birth rate in America. We can collapse.

We could collapse quick. Yeah. Yeah. It can be a quick collapse. And then, you know, simultaneously you see like the infrastructure and things like this. And it's like, well, let's just shift into our virtual realities into our VR headsets. And, you know, while we go, while we go down, basically, it's like the circus, the bread and circus idea, right? While the empire collapses.

So I think there's, there has been different plans at different, you know, across. these decades to have a controlled disintegration at one point they called it that of you know the economy and again this gets into a whole other phase of how you loot how you loot the public basically while you're collapsing right you loot the you loot the public of whatever wealth they have left i want to be sure to thank you for this documentary rf kath that you guys did a great job on it it's a very interesting a way of a frame on him and his family's history but i wanted to i mean interrupting you because we just got kicked off TikTok for this conversation.

We just went a little too far. I got banned from TikTok. I got banned from TikTok. That's right. Well, thank you for doing that for us because I don't like TikTok very much. We get kicked off about 34 minutes and pretty much every day.

All right, well, listen, tell them again where we can see a documentary. I appreciate you doing this. When you say Adrenica Chrome, you immediately get taken off of TikTok. I did that once. That's how I, that was one of the last things I said. before I got picked off.

Well done. There's the billboard for the movie. Tell them again where to go. And I hope you'll come back as you do more projects. I appreciate what you're doing. And it's all very interesting stuff. Stuff I would have dismissed years ago. Now I want to hear more.

But where can I see this, Doc? Yeah, I think the best way would be shone. Dot info. That will be the website that has RFK Legacy, best kept secret, and a number of other projects, documentaries, books, all kinds of offerings. Great. John, thank you for being here.

Appreciate it. Thank you for having me. You got it. All right, we'll take one more little break, and then Tim Hinchcliffe gets in here. Then we're going to now finally talk about Caleb's post. Maybe I'll put up for a second with you, the animated version, Caleb, before we go to break here. There we go. We've got ultimate, we got fake cows giving us fake meat. Really, I want to talk about Davos and the overreach.

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Thank you, everyone. A lot of Susan and that break. Those are my producing skills. Very good. writing documentaries, but I can sure get a dolphin involved. So you can follow Tim at Tim Hinchcliff, one word, H-I-N-C-H-I-F-E. I think I got that right. Tim, I would give you some info.

He's from editor at the sociable and contributor to Truth Talk UK and Wideawake Media. His work focuses on technology, global governance, digital identity, systems and technology. again, X is Tim. Inchcliffe, Tim. Thank you and welcome the program. Hey, it's an absolute pleasure to be here. Thank you. I've been a fan of yours, Dr. Drew, since Love Line back in the 90s. So that's I used to listen to on the radio before going to bed.

So thank you. Where were you? What part of the country? I was in Longview, Washington. Washington State? Like eastern Washington? Southwest Washington on the Columbia River. Just 45 minutes north of Portland, Oregon.

Okay, we had a pride of Portland station there. So, well, I appreciate that. We had a lot of fun doing it. I still do podcasts with Adam. I just saw him this morning. And in fact, we revisited some old love line stuff in that pod. It's interesting. But, Tim, I am so gobsmacked, confused by the World Economic Forum and Davos and

great reset plans. are these elites just so full of their own sense of self-importance and grandiose sense that they're always right that they feel, to me it just feels gross to tell other people how they should live their life. How do they suddenly decide they know what's right for every person on the planet? Yeah, well, they got some kind of messianic complex going on. They really think that they are lords over this earth. And just about everything that they try to come up with is about either incentivizing, coercing, or otherwise manipulating human behavior.

And it's all to fit their goals, all to fit their narratives. So they want to control everything, what you eat, where you travel, what you consume, what kind of energy you're allowed to have. they want to basically control everything in nature and I, us humans as well. And they say it's for the good of the planet. It's for our own good. For the good of the planet, is it just good of the planet or the good of the human? I don't quite get it.

But the meat thing, they don't want us to eat meat. What is that all about? What is they just don't like meat? They don't like us hurting animals? Where do you think it all comes from? Because it seems motivated way beyond the evidence. Well, if you listen to them, what they'll say, it's because cows are farting too much, and that's putting too much CO2 into the atmosphere.

And that's really, it's contributing to what the climate change. So if you are eating meat, it's also the fields in which the cows, the pastures and everything, you're sucking up a lot of resources. You're emitting a lot of methane. It's not good for the planet. We want to control that. That's the surface level. Beneath it, though, is all about land grabs and financializing and tokenizing and digital twinning everything in nature.

So, yeah, what they want to do is basically grab up all the land, use it for their AI data centers, which is takes a lot of water. It goes in prime agricultural land, which is one of the W.EF meetings was talking about that. and it uses tons of energy. So it's very interlinked with a lot of technical things, technological things, and it's all going to be monitored, according to their plans, monitored and controlled with technologies coming out of the Fourth Industrial Revolution, which World Economic Forum founder, Klaus Schwab said, The Force Industrial Revolution is the fusion of our physical,

our biological and digital identities. it seems to me they don't understand they do not understand the biological spiritual psychological pieces of the human at all not at all uh and it's it's a kind of an impoverished again it's disgusting this last world economic forum though it seemed like people were standing up and saying hey globalism failed stop it is that something that was just sort of memed out or was that actually a theme that was getting heard there? Well, there's a lot of hypocrisy going on. So this Davos meeting that just took place,

which was, I think, the 50th or 56 something, 53rd or 4th, World Economic Forum meeting in Davos. It's called A Spirit of Dialogue was a theme. And Larry Fink, who is the co-chair, interim co-chair, along with Andrene Pothman of the World Economic Forum, taken over from Klaus Schwab after his departure. And so Larry Fink was saying, yes, we are elites. We are here to shape the world for you people.

We know that we've lost trust. And we're trying to regain that trust. So what we're going to do is we're going to start listening to people. We're going to go out there and listen to people. But the hypocrisy is rampant. So on X, anything that the WF was putting out, it says only people that the WF follows or marks can reply. They shut down all conversation, all spirit of dialogue there. And so they memed themselves.

And if you saw like other things that like Rebel News and other ones, I think box poopoli was on the ground there in Davos. And they went and tried to interview these people, talk with them as they're walking to and fro and silence. It's just, I think, I don't know, I hope. maybe, that it's over for them the way they've been doing things. Maybe it was the Trump that came in and dropped the bomb. It wasn't it at Davos where he came in and dropped the bomb in the middle of it?

But other people started piling on what he was saying. Like this is not working. It's not okay. That decentralization is the way, the most efficient form of human thriving. And if there's issues with overpopulation, let's kind of deal with it. systematically rather than thinking of ways to kill people? Oh, they even had a session called rebalancing the new world order. It was actually literally called that.

And so they were saying that it's either going to be going to be going to be the BRICS model or it's going to go like the UN model or there's going to be factions. So you're going to have like the U.S. doing what they do. You've got China doing what they do. But the panelists were saying one was the, I think of the president or prime minister of Finland, they were saying that they believe that what happened is the, international rules-based order like the UN and the United Nations. I mean, that is an organization that just needs to go away. You got the World Bank. You got the World Health Organization.

Great job during the pandemic, by the way, the pandemic, by the way. And everything, so, and the World Economic Forum itself is the organization for public, private partnerships, which is the fusion of corporation and state. And so that's how they get things done. whatever a government can't do, and then they just rely on the private sector to do it. Whenever the private sector can't do, the government. The fusion of corporation and states,

we just used to call that fascism. Yeah, fascism, corporatism, that's the Mussolini thing. Yeah, so even during lockdowns, you know, the government would recommend something, usually coming from the who, which is what?

Who's the biggest funders of that? Once the U.S. got out, it was UK, Germany, and Bill and Melinda Gates, Foundation, along with Gabby, the Vaccine Alliance, which the Gates Foundation also funds. So that's where it's all coming from. And Gates is the one who's into that fake meat crap, you know, and doing all these things to control the world, but is for your own good.

Yeah. Are the Epstein files taking the wind out of the sales of any of these people? I hope so. I mean, I'm trying to keep up with them because I'm looking at all these emails and all these plots that are there you know everyone's been talking about you know they've had in the back of their minds for years but now all these document dumps are coming out it's a lot to go through yeah yeah did anything at davos surprise you you seem like kind of a i don't know let's call you a jaded realist you're sort of you're unvarnished look you're willing to you're getting it realistically

you're realist that's way advo's realist but even so did anything uh surprise you it's surprise, not really, but interesting. I mean, you've all know a Harari, the historian, was one that he was talking about like AI and what we're going to have next is an immigration crisis, but the immigrants are going to be AIs. And that AI will take over everything that has to do with words, with language.

So anything, so if the law is made of words, AI is going to take over that. Religion, if you're of the book, people of the book, AI is going to take over that. And then Elon Musk, and his session was talking about robots. He was saying that in the next couple of years, AI is going to be smarter than all of humanity collectively. And then looking down 2030, 2013, there's going to be, he said, more humanoid robots than people.

And everyone's going to want a robot. It's all going to have this. It's all being run with AI. This AI data centers, we were talking about, you know, on Earth. They need a lot of land and water and power like nuclear. Well, they want solar wind for us peasants. But in the future, he's saying that solar-powered AI data centers in space. That's what's also coming up next.

So I'm not surprised by it. It's just, yeah, it's interesting to hear them to say it and just go, what? Has Johann Hari been right? I want a robot. I know you do. I'm sure. I'm sure we'll have one. I want them to be able to make sandwiches.

And do the dishes? Yeah. Okay. Empty the dishwasher. What must be able to be able to spread mustard? You're going to give a robot a knife to make you a sandwich. You're going to arm your robot. So funny.

Is there anything that Johan Hari has been accurately correct about? I feel like everything that asshole says is just completely sideways. He's been, he's very materialistic. atheist. He doesn't really have much faith in humanity, I don't think. So in the past, he talked about hackable humans. So he said that once you get enough biological data and it could be any computing power, you can hack all of humanity. You can, back in 2020, because he hasn't been seen at the W.E.F. for six years. So like once Klaus Schwab got out of there, so all of a sudden, Arari came back. So he was saying that in the future, when you have this

what's called the internet of bodies, which is wearables or something you ingest or something implanted in you that is reading everything that you do in real time, like your brain activity, your heart rate and all that. So you're saying that in the future that you can listen to the great leader,

you know, whatever dictator, and you can sit there and go in applause and cheer on, but your biometrics is going to read that, they're going to know that you're really not into it. It's not where you're out, your exterior is not reflecting the interior, and you'll be in the gulag the next morning.

So these are the things that he talks about. I see them. I mean, he's not really a powerful person. I mean, his mouth is powerful. His words are powerful. But he's not like one who controls governments or, you know, has a lot of money with corporations and things. But his ideas spread.

He's people, yeah, people pointed his ideas and they're always terrible. And they're really not. I feel like it's somebody, like if, if there were a Martian that, landed here and trying to make sense of humanity.

I feel like they might do it the way he's doing it, particularly if they were intent on doing ill to humanity. Yeah, because everything is very dystopin. And I mean, even he said, so if this year, you know, if, you know, if humanity, if everything's going to be run by AI,

what's what's left for us humans? What are we supposed to do? And he says, we need to get in touch with our nonverbal feelings and do something with that. It's like, what kind of solution is that? He also said that AI called us humans the watchers, which is,

yeah, it's, yeah, I don't know what to make of, I mean, I've been one of the first, I've been covering him at the W.EF. since 2018.

So, yeah, I've been following him for quite a while. Not a fan. No, I've read some of his books. I'm like, this is,

this is garbage. It's like, it's detached from reality. Tell me about the UN Global Digital Compact. Oh, yeah. So that's part of the Pact for the Future, which was signed at the UN summit of the future a couple years ago. And it's basically a digital setting up a digital control grid. So what they want to do is first, so these are globalists, unit.

They want to bring electricity to everyone on the planet because, hey, it's for your good. Why not? So the next thing to do is get everybody connected to the internet. Hey, information, yes. The digital control grid. And then, so once that run is connected, you install something called digital public infrastructure, which is a civic technology stack consisting of three main components. Digital identity, fast payment systems, which could include programmable money like CBDCs or stable coins,

along with massive data sharing between public and private entities. And so once this digital control grid is in place, then you can control all of humanity. You can control where people can spend their money, especially with the climate stuff, their net zero agenda, if you're eating too much red meat or if you're consuming too much energy, all they do is manipulate your digital identity, tell you where you can buy stuff or not, and then either to shut it off or increase the fees until you comply. It's all about compliance. And then there's that censorship aspect to it. The UN already came out and said, We own the science.

Melissa Fleming, Director General for Communications, Global Communications, Melissa Fleming, 2021. I broke this story, the W.EF. She said, we own the science. We partnered with Google and TikTok. When I think about TikTok shutting off this thing, we partnered with Google to manipulate search results on climate change

so that only UN approved results appear at the top. And if you question now, it's not a question, it's not even a question of if you're a climate denier. If you are skeptical of policies, the official UN position now is that you are conducting misinformation. It's called sophisticated skepticism. And you're impeding upon agenda 2030.

There are goals. And so if you're doing that, that's misinformation. Disinformation has got to be stamped out. And they had all these nations sign a code of conduct saying, yes, we'll get rid of this. Terrible. I mean,

I don't understand why they think people would put up with this, but I guess people get, you know, eaten down where they don't want to get into trouble. But it's just an awful precedent. And it doesn't seem like it's going to go well, but I don't know. Maybe I'm a different, I'm a time traveler from a different time when these ideas seem very, very bad to me. Well, listen, we appreciate you being here. Is there any place else you'd like people to go other than X to find you? your information. Be really careful.

Yeah. Yeah, sure. Like you said there, I've got the on X at Tim Hinchlift, but then the website, sociable.sociable.c.o. Yeah, that's where you can find all the writings. I've been got this for a little over a decade now. And are you optimistic? Are you pessimistic? Are you people waking up to the excesses?

And sort of, you know, were you ringing the bell five, ten years ago? Nobody was listening and now they're listening? Is it feel a little better? Or is it, still just overwhelmingly, are they just a tsunami coming over us? It feels a little better now. I mean,

ever since they showed their hand in 2020, contact tracing, vaccine passports, lockdowns, all that stuff. Yeah. It used to be, that's what the great reset wanted to do with climate.

They tried to do it with COVID. And then once the COVID-controlled narrative went away, they went right back to climate again. So I am optimistic of a lot of people had woken up and are waking up to it. I mean, the globalists, they're still going on with their agenda, so I'm paying attention to it. But I think we can just ridicule and make fun of them and just, yeah, not comply. Just don't go along with it, you know?

There you go. I think COVID did us a few great services. That was one of them. Tim Hinchglob, thank you so much for being here. Thank you. Pleasure. Hope to see you again soon. All right.

So let's look at what's coming up there, Caleb, on our hit parade. if you put the upcoming schedule there. There we go. Rick Jaffe is a very interesting guest for tomorrow. Salty Cracker on the fifth. Cura Davis is going to sit in while we are escorting a family friend to Poland. We're going to try to do a show from Poland with Mark Reber. Luke Rukowski.

J.P. Sears. I think we'll be able to pull that off. So again, we appreciate you being here. Tomorrow, of course, is 4 o'clock. I may make a quick appearance. at the Maha. What do they call it, Caleb? The Maha Media Hub.

Every Wednesday. Media Hub. Oh, you're going to do it. Yeah, I want to do it because I want to talk about the executive order and the addiction thing. I think that's really, it's good. That's a nice invite. Yeah. I hope Russell Brand shows up, though, clothed.

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