Ask Dr. Drew - Dr. Clare Craig: Moderna Was Developing Hantavirus mRNA Vax Before Cruise Outbreak, Stock Jumps 20 Percent w/ Eric Bolling & Gloria Romero – Ask Dr. Drew – EP 624

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

The media is working overtime to manufacture the next viral panic, and pharma companies are making big money from the fear campaign. After confirming they were already working on a Hantavirus mRNA vaccine before the cruise ship outbreak – and also developing mRNA vax for ebola – Moderna’s stock jumped 20%. What an odd coincidence… Diagnostic pathologist Dr. Clare Craig joins Dr. Drew to expose the suspicious timing behind the latest virus hysteria and what the pharmaceutical industry might be planning next – monkeypox, ebola, bird flu, or worse. Eric Bolling breaks down the economic warning signs flashing across the country as diesel prices near all-time highs. CA Lt. Gov. candidate Gloria Romero (running with Steve Hilton) exposes a new plot by California Democrats to repeal the “Top 2” primary system and change the rules of the election to maintain power. Dr. Clare Craig, BM BCh FRCPath, is a Diagnostic Pathologist and author of “Expired: Covid the Untold Story.” She practiced in the NHS for 15 years and became a Fellow of the Royal College of Pathologists. She was the day-to-day pathology lead for the cancer arm of the 100,000 Genomes Project and led R&D at Genomics England. She is Co-Chair of the Health Advisory and Recovery Team (HART Group). Follow at https://x.com/ClareCraigPath Eric Bolling is a TV personality, political commentator, and author. He is the host of TheEDGE and a former co-host of Fox News’ The Five. A former commodities trader at the New York Mercantile Exchange specializing in crude oil, gold, and agricultural commodities, he also served on the NYMEX Board of Directors. He is a 2-time NYT bestselling author. Follow at https://x.com/ericbolling Gloria Romero is a candidate for California Lieutenant Governor, running alongside Steve Hilton. A former California State Senate Majority Leader, she was elected to the State Assembly in 1998 and the Senate in 2001. She left the Democratic Party in September 2024 and joined the Republican Party. She is also a professor, educator, and businesswoman. Learn more at https://gloriaromero.com 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • COVEPURE – Do you know what’s in your tap water? Get $250 off your purifier at https://covepure.com/DREW ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome, everyone. Dr. Claire Craig comes back again to join us. She, of course, is a diagnostic pathologist, author of Expired COVID, The Untold Story. She was at the NHS system in England for 15 years, a fellow of the Royal College of pathologist. And she's co-chair of the Health Advisory and Recovery Team. There is, oh, another, she does another book. Is that not the one called Expired? It's spiked. I'm getting confused by her publications. You can follow her on Claire Craig Path on X. Claire's A-R-E and Craig C-R-A-I-G path, and Heart with the H-R-T group.org. I'm also talking to Eric Bolin, and we're also going to have a candidate for Lieutenant Governor here in California, Gloria Romero, who used to be a Democrat, which fascinates me.

I want to hear her story of transformation. And Eric, amongst other things, has some stories to tell us about gas prices and upcutting political battles, but I'm very anxious to talk to Claire. I want to straighten one thing up, immediately before we go to our guest, which is there is this insane,

and I mean insane, I'm going to hold my tongue to the language I want to use, attempt on TikTok in particular to call anyone who points out that the word haunta happens to be the word in another foreign language for chump or sap or sort of somebody that gets tricked, essentially. Okay?

That is a fact. That is a fact that haunta is a word, look it up on any translating software you have. Hanta is a slang in a language for Trump, essentially. And isn't that interesting that the Hanta virus happens to be called Hanta? God works a mysterious way. Of course, I know that the Hanta was originally named for a South Korean river many years ago. That's never, how concrete does your thinking have to be to take my observation

of an interesting language quirk to concretely thinking that we're alleging that somehow the virus was named after that word. It was not. But Claire Craig also pointed out something that I thought was very interesting, which is that Ebola has been named a public health emergency of international concern by the World Health Organization. acronym. The W.HO has declared a PHEIC, public health emergency of international concern. Dr. Craig pointed out, very appropriately, that that is pronounced fake.

Fake. So we have chump and fake. God works in mysterious ways. There's no conspiracy theory in any of this. It's simply an observation, and it happens to be accurate and true. But we're going to talk more about Hanta, and we're going to talk more about Ebola with Dr. Craig, who's very equipped to talk about these things.

She studied them in the past. We'll get to that after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this right. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for a shit. Where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real.

We used to get these calls on Loveland all the time, educate adolescents, and to prevent, and to treat. Do you have trouble? You can't stop, and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. Dr. Claire Craig has been here with us before. She's been a source of great information throughout the pandemic and the botched response.

Dr. Craig, welcome back. Thank you for being here. Thanks for having me back on. Did I characterize your representation of the acronym accurately, or did I misrepresent what you? had said on social media? No, that's absolutely how it's meant to be pronounced. You know, they didn't have to choose that series of lettering. That's what they chose.

Yeah. I mean, in public health emergency of international concern, it's almost as if they forced the words to those letters, as if they wanted the letters spurt, isn't it? But it is, look, God works in mysterious ways. One virus is for chumps and the other is a fake. And you couldn't, you can't make this shit up. But here we are.

So let's go for a minute back to Haanta virus, which I know you've had a lot of experience with. In my eye, immediately, there was a high probability of common exposure. They should have gotten these poor people off of that foamite, which was the ship, immediately. And if they wanted to quarantine them, great, but not on the source of the potential source of the virus. Even if there had been source from the landfill, or even if the primary was, the landfill. Stuff could have been tracked back in. There's a million reason to get up that ship immediately. And the bureaucracy that we call the World Health Organization put those people in harm's way. I totally agree with you. So, you know, the evidence base for Hanta virus, which is something

I've read a lot about, I don't have clinical experience on, but I've read all of this. And it was established for decades that these viruses spread from rats to humans. When they get into humans, they head for the blood vessels and they replicate in the blood vessel lining cells, the endothelial cells. So where the virus is being replicated in a human, it's not accessible to other humans. It's predominantly in the blood.

So, you know, it might spread the similar way to hepatitis B. You know, it can be in saliva, it can be in bodily fluids, but it's not being breezed out over people. So that was the kind of starting point. Now, the accusation that it would spread human to human is entirely based on one paper. This is a paper about an outbreak in Argentina in 2018.

And it covers a third of the year, so four months' worth of disease. And what they did is instead of saying, well, look, we think it is spread by wraps. And if we're going to disprove that, then we need to sort of save what the control group was. So what would your expectation be if it was spread by rats and then compare that to what actually happened?

But they didn't do that. They just did. They just collected the cases and then over huge lengths of time because the incubation period between four and 42 days. So you have these enormous lengths of time in which people could meet each other. And then they drew all these connections between people. Now, the reality is there are 34 cases and all 34 of them were. exposed in the same town. So the rats in that town must have the virus and all those people

were exposed. There were three people they claimed were exposed in a hospital setting. But all three of those were also in that town when they were around that time that they were exposed. And there were 82 healthcare professionals who did not have proper PPE. They might have had gloves, but that was about it. And not one of them got sick. So to say that that's evident of human-teaming transmission is a massive stretch. Yeah, they did not control for other potential routes of transmission. And then they just concluded it's incredible. And that virus was well known to be present in that town in multiple regions,

multiple sources at that time. So wild that people ran to that. And then the next thing we hear is that the World Health Organization is telling us that be careful it's in men's semen and it's in their tears and it's in all these things. And here's, I have two big, maybe a point and a question. The point is, this isn't like AIDS where there's tremendous around a virus being produced while someone is asymptomatic. This is not like that. So, and even AIDS wasn't a pandemic.

It was an epidemic, right? It has to be fluid transmitted. That's the way this virus is transmitted, if at all, human to human, if at all, right? And so, but it's only when they're symptomatic, as I understand. So I'll let you put a code on that. Is that true? Yeah, that's true. It's symptomatic spreads.

And then when they're sort of finding it in all these other places, that doesn't mean it can spread from these places. You know, there's sort of separate arguments around the evidence that just haven't been put. And actually one point worth making is it in Argentina, they have about 100 cases every year. Some years a bit more, some years a bit less. The year they had these 34 supposedly human to human transmission cases,

they still had about 100 over that year. So, you know, nothing changed. It was still the rats that were underlying it. And the people who went up that people. And by the way, in this town in Southern California, we have a massive bloom of rats and mice

because they have outlawed rodenticides here and we are seeing rickettsial disease. which is endemic to this area. We will see plague of some type that's an adjacent rickettsial illness, and we will see hanta virus. It is inevitable. We're in the southwest.

And they refuse to control the vectors. Instead, they want to panic us about humans. So my next question to you, first of all, how can medicine be practiced worse than this? Number one, or public health. Number two, why in the world are they so addicted to scaring the public. What is going on here that they keep returning?

Deborah Birx keep returning to it. The World Health Organization keeps returning to it. These dire predictions that are clearly... I'm trying to contain my language, inaccurate. I was going to say wacko cuckoo, but let's just call them inaccurate. I completely hear you. It's the role of public health to prevent panic,

to calm people down, to keep rational. It's the role of public health. health is say, actually, we know what to do with Ebola. We have it every year. We can handle it. Trust us. We'll get on with intervening. You know, that's what public health officials would say.

And to be fair, that is what some public health officials are saying. But there seem to be ones in particular. I saw one. And you. I saw you. I saw Nurse Campbell, John Campbell. I saw one World Health Organization official. So I know they're out there, but the rest of them, no.

They're either addicted to this, they must get money from it or something. Something is going on here that is just horrible, or it's just how bureaucracies work when they're out of control and they should be defunded if that's the case because they are harming people. I don't know what to do. Anyway, two other things. There is nothing good about fear. Fear is always a bad thing. And for anyone to be amplifying it is always a bad thing.

And what is interesting and what might be sure some of your listeners is that the WHO have a conference every year. The World Health Assembly, they call it. And in the lead up to their conference, they always managed to get these fear articles into the press. And they've done a good job this year. I've seen what? We had hanta virus. We've had Ebola. We've had dengue fever. We've had a norovirus. I saw monkey pox again today as well. So they're really going for it from any angle. So it's monkeypox, Ebola, bird flu, hantavirus. They just keep going for one to the next. Yeah. And all I keep saying is these viruses that have been percolating at a low level for a long time, if they suddenly break into the human population with massive speed,

assume somebody has been doing gain of function. That's it. That's the only assumption you can make. The reality is that even if you were to, you know, go down that path, I don't think there's a lot you can do for hanta virus to make it more transmissible. It's only a tiny virus. You can't, you know, You can't make it something that it isn't. It's just a tiny virus and it hates the vessels in a human and therefore it's not very transmissible. And actually with the outbreak that we've seen, every single person who's been sick was exposed to that boat.

And as you said, for a long time, much longer than they needed to be. And, you know, the company whose cruise it was obviously don't want to be blamed for having rats on board. But reality is rack on board ships. I mean, you know, that just will happen. Did you hear that the captain has been, they have a log that they have to present to every port they go to about documenting that they've documented clearing the ship of rats. The captain has refused. He neglected to do it when he landed in Argentina or wherever that island was, and he refused to disclose it now.

So there's a suggestion that this suggests at least they're hiding that there was a rat problem on that. ship and makes perfect sense. That makes sense. So quick thing. I was here. I promoted a book Expired and then we put up the book Spiked. What was the... So Expired was a book I wrote in 2024. It was very much focused on masks and lockdowns and viral spread. So the kind of aerosol droplet story, which is quite an interesting story. about how that, you know, actually evolved. And this book is about the V word. It's a bit non-controversial. And it's really focused on the fact that the vaccines didn't work, couldn't work, and that people knew that from the outset, and that people weren't told. So it's about

the censorship that followed that and what happened to me in terms of medical registration and all that kind of thing. So, you know, I've tried to make it human and full of stories. But it's essentially, these vaccines did not work. And I think it's really important that we have that written. down and referenced and as a place of something that people can use as a reference point because when people talk about safety, they never get heard because they get shut down with the it saved millions of lies lie. Yeah. I had the hunch that during Alpha and Delta, there was some benefit for the very elderly.

That was my clinical hunch. But absolutely no reason to give it to 20-year-old males that got mildcarditis instead. I started with that belief as well. There were lots of papers that made it look like that. And having dug into it quite deeply, I think I understand why those papers look like that and I explain that in the book. But fundamentally, you could look at the wastewater virus levels

in the US, which was tracked. And that's the sort of measure of the population level of infection. And if you put that graph up against the hospitalisations or the death graph for the whole country, the two lines don't deviate. The same amount of affection was resulting in the same amount of severe disease and death.

So, yeah, I don't think it did what we were told at all. I saw you, we were putting that out on social media. So let's talk about the fake and vaccines. We'll keep going on the vaccine thing. Haunt a vaccine, Ebola vaccine. You know, Congo, DR has outbreaks of Ebola on a race.

regular basis. They know how to contain it. They know how to deal with it. They know what it is. Now it's a fake. And by those you are just tuning in, fake is an acronym, public health emergency of international concern. pronounce fake. You can't make this shit up. But what is going on here? Is there something more sinister afoot? We've already established the World Health Organization has bad judgment. It's out of control. It's looking for funding. But is there something on the vaccine front with all this virus talk? So I don't know. I do know, as you say, that the WHO have written down their intentions and we've been able to read them. And they've made quite clear they want an international digital database of every single traveller. And they will scare people to get that, I reckon. And the situation we've got now with Ebola is that already today, Hong Kong are screening passengers on arrival. and the sort of window to start collecting that kind of data is starting to open. So I think the fear and the vaccines and the actual illnesses are probably not the main thing we should be worried about.

The thing we should be worried about is how the WHO are using that to their advantage. And of course, you know, the thing with travel is that there is a sort of slight grey area in terms of who owns it. because it's international. It's a space where they can, you know, move in. And I just think that might be happening. And the fact is the WHO, you know, they have lost power since declaring they wanted to do all of these things.

And they don't have proper power over sovereign countries, but they have a lot of soft power. You know, if the WHO says that something's necessary, then the civil servants in the country want it and the public want it. And so, you know, it puts the politicians under enormous pressure. And I think with the problem we have is that politicians are not awake to this agenda. Is there anyone clearly, Tedros, Gibralis, whatever his name is,

is not someone that we should be leaning on for clinical judgment and making good calls. Is there someone at the World Health Organization we can look to and say, okay, that person's at least well-trained, making good judgment, seems to be, making sense. I saw a woman during Haanta. I forget her name. They immediately pushed her underground who was, you know, saying, no big deal, relax, we got this. You know, it's an outbreak. Yep. People get hurt. Yep, bad illness. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Is there someone in your mind. I'm sure there are good people at the WHO. It's a big organization and the kind of people would want to go and work for them. You know, they are bound to be good people there. The trouble is,

Tedros is a dictator within it. So the Constitution was written with people thinking that only good things could ever come of it. So there were no safeguards. And for Monkeypox in 2023, he declared a fake after his emergency committee had voted 9-6 to not declare one. And he said that 9-6 was very close and they had to have a tiebreaker. And his tie-break was that they would declare it. Now, this time with Ebola, he didn't even call the committee. He just declared one completely unilaterally.

So he's just become the dictator, the WHO. So no matter how many good people there are there, he's in charge and he's doing what he wants. Terrible. Well, listen, I appreciate you being out there fighting the good fight. And in this book, Spiked, you chronicle what has happened to you and to many of us. through this extraordinary experience. Have you been able to reinstate yourself or to reinvent what you're doing

in such a way that you're feeling satisfied with your work again? Or are people looking at you and going, okay, she was right, sorry? Of course. I've not had any apologies. I've not had any apologies. I'll keep waiting for them.

And I've not rushed back into a kind of career in the healthcare sector. As a, you know, I've not gone backwards. I'm still looking forwards. But, you know, I've not been employed since. And so, yeah, so, you know, forgive me for plugging my book, but it's my source of income. And I'm not making very much money on it at all. Well, your books are quite good, and your thinking is clear-eyed and well, you know,

you're well-established in the literature and in clinical experience and in your training. So, you know, when you start saying things, I listen, and I think others should too. And stay out there. how is Dr. John Campbell doing? He's to continue to do his good work or have they come after him too? He's doing good work. He's doing good work. He's going to keep going. So his transformation was very similar to mine. It's interesting. During the pandemic, he was a good source of information. His thing was going to calm people down.

Let's just look at the facts. Let's figure out how to keep ourselves safe and blah, blah, blah, just very, very clinical, a matter of fact about it. And all of a sudden, he was like, wait a minute. what is going on here? And I, and he is still, I can kind of read through the lines here. He's still holding his cards in a very British way, very close to his chest. But I know he is absolutely, he's like me, he's gobsmacked, mortified, can't believe the world I live in, and that my profession had perpetrated something like this.

It's mind-boggling, mind-boggling. It is mind-boggling. And the longer it goes on, the harder it seems, I think, to get to a position where we can actually, you know, be rational. again. There are so many doctors and other healthcare professionals who've been in touch with me, like hundreds that have been in touch with me, who understand all of this and won't speak. And because they won't speak. I understand why. I don't blame them. I wouldn't want to go through it. I don't blame them. They're trying to do their job to keep their head down. Here's the thing. During a mass formation, 20% of the people are true believers. We can't do anything about them. There's a book called true believers. I suggest you read it if you want to know who those people are. It's a great book. Just a objective observation. of true believers. 10% are people like you and me who went, wait a minute, what's going on or this is not right? 70% just want to keep their head down and not getting the crossfire.

And I do not blame those people, but we need them. We need them very, very badly. You need to step up. You're the ones. These things happen from the bottom up. And to the extent that these outrages have been perpetrated, we cannot let it happen again. It's come on in. The water's fine.

All you focus on freedom and courage and these simple ideas. and the truth and that the truth matters, and you'll find your way with the rest of us. But listen, thank you for being there. Where would you like people to go other than to buy the book? They can come to my Twitter. I'm Claire Craig Paff on Twitter. All right.

I hope to talk to again very soon. All right. Thanks for so much. See you soon. Bye. Cheers. Cheers. All right.

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I've got to reorient myself to everything. Where you can find Eric. Eric. Eric is at Eric with a C, bowling, B-O-L-L-I-N-G. He is, of course, an American TV personality, conservative commentator, host of The Edge, a former co-host of the Five. I think he started the Five, remember, right? A commodities trader at the New York Mercantile Exchange, and he has served on the Nimex Board of Directors. Eric, welcome back, and The Edge is the pod.

Dr. Drew, good to be back with you, my friend. Yes, it's the edge. You're on fire again. I was the original center seat on the five. We launched the five in 2011, July 2011. When Glenn Beck exited Fox the last second, ALE said, hey, I need a new show. Everyone was petitioning for it.

He said, I'll take my five favorites and throw them on a table. And that became the highest rated cable network show, new show in America. And it's still to that day. Yeah, six years later. It's, it's, his instincts were, beyond, you know, beyond anybody else's at the time, certainly. So, there's a few things to talk about.

There's a number of, I want to talk about the, we were going to be promoted, we're going to talk about the diesel prices and gas prices and taxes on gas, whatnot. But I want to talk a little about some of the political battles that are out there. What do you make of Thomas Massey's struggle in the face of the Trump onslaught?

I find that battle very interesting. Yeah, there are a couple of, major, I would call them witness tests for Trump's emphasis in Trump's involvement in the political party, in the Republican Party, certainly in the mega end of it. I would say Massey is the biggest and the closest race. Thomas Massey 14-year congressman, you know, running, he votes with Trump policies 90% of the time, but that 10% is making Trump dislike him. He doesn't like him at all. In fact, he sent Pete Hexed, the Secretary of War, stumping for Galraith, Massey's opponent yesterday.

And so the push for the White House certainly is to get Thomas Massey out. Massey is known to push back on some of the Epstein file issues with Trump and some of the other issues. Thomas Massey is a libertarian. I'm a libertarian. This one's too close to call. To be honest with you, Drew, I will tell you what happened. This one bothers me. It bothers me.

I mean, he was a, you know, I always, I get. disturbed when people that have exceptional ability and training. For instance, you as a trader and as someone who's been in commodities, I mean, it gives you special insight that the average person doesn't have. Massey is an MIT engineer. He had multiple trademarks and had started businesses before we left college. I mean, this guy had this, this is a mind we don't want to lose. That's the way I think about these things. And so he disagrees with the political wins of the day. Good. Maybe listen to it. Don't pay attention to it, whatever.

I get bothered when good minds are lost. Yeah. You're right, and I think a lot of people do. I don't think we'll have a loser in this seat in Kentucky for, because if it's messy, I think we retain a very good, you know, long-term congressman with a lot of skills. And I think it's gall rate, I think Trump will be happy with it. Maybe, I don't know, bring them into the fault.

I'm very concerned about the House of Representatives for the Republicans. I think it's a foregone conclusion right now that we or they are going to lose it based on gas prices. Gas is ripping. It's continuing to go higher. Diesel prices are approaching an all-time high made under Joe Biden. I need to point out, we destroyed Joe Biden. We destroyed Bidenomics for the high inflation rates and the gas price and the diesel prices. Well, Trump's price is going to exceed Biden's no matter what happens today.

even if they start waving the white flags in the Middle East and Trump says you're off the hook, even if oil goes back down to $70 a barrel tomorrow, you're still going to see pump prices in the force, if not the fives throughout the summer. And what happens at the end of the summer, you start looking ahead to the early November election. I think they're cooked. I think the House has gone to the Democrats. The question is, do the Republicans retain the Senate? That's a very big question at this point.

And so Sean Hawley has proposed a temporary, I guess, relief on gas taxes. Of course, that doesn't relieve us here in California where we get an extra $2.50 of nonsense tax. I don't know where that money is going. Nor does anybody in the state, for that matter, I suspect. But is that a realistic possibility or is that just political theater? Well, here's why I'm not going to call it political theater. To be perfectly honest with you, Dr. Drew, go to my Twitter account, go to my ex-account at Eric Bowling.

You'll see what Josh Hawley is proposing right now, something I mentioned more than a month ago. In fact, now I mentioned it, I was on with Steve Bannon's war room, said, you know, we should roll back the federal gas tax, at least temporarily. That's 18.4 cents, not a huge number. Certainly will help. And I put that up, and I sent it into Pete Higgs at the, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, Secretary of Warren. I sent it to Susie Wiles, the President Trump's chief of staff, who he's very, very trusting of. I sent it to both. They sent back, hey, thanks, great idea.

Now, it's coming to fruition. 18.5 cents isn't going to solve the problem. It's not going to necessarily bring inflation down. But if you take that and combine it with an effort, bring in some of the governors of the highest tax states like California, bring Newsom in, and just have a conversation, you have a massive window to at least reduce the gas. tax in California and every other state for that matter. I think the average is something around 47 cents a gallon across the United States, even with California. And lean on the governors to do the same thing to temporarily roll back their state gasoline tax until there's an all clear in the Middle East and we have some sort of idea. There it is. There is. You found it.

Good job. Your producers are on it. I sent that out a very long time ago. And it got pickup. And thankfully, you know, if they get it great, I don't need. credit, but hopefully they do get something like that. Because I'll tell you what, Drew, you look at a corner, any corner in America, you know, price is one cent cheaper on that side to the street than that side of street. People will literally drive around the block to get into that gas station for a penny a gallon. They probably spend more gasoline doing it. But, you know, the gallon price of gas isn't just the price of gasoline.

It's the price of freedom. We look at our gasoline. We use it to transport, get us out of the neighborhood, get us to work, get us to the ball field, get our kids to school. It's the price of freedom. So we are very sensitive to the gallon of gasoline price. And by the way, that diesel price, wow, our transportation sector is really, railing right now.

The trucking, and by the way, trains, rails use diesel extensively as well. So just about every good that's transported within the continental United States is hyper-sensitive to the diesel price or the gasoline price. So I saw Trump talking about how these prices. would be very short term and don't worry, I'm going to get them down, blah, blah, blah. And indeed, the voter memory is very short. You know, if he brings it down in like September, October, that euphoria, maybe he'll get what he wants out of this politically.

Yeah. Well, you know, I've been a president Trump advocate since 2015 before he even announced he was running for president in late June of 2015. I love what he does. I like the policies. I like the America First policies. He's frankly, let's just say, I'll be friendly here. He's being overly optimistic about the price of gasoline. Even if oil prices started to recede now, it could take 30, 45, 60 days.

Remember, thinking about this. So barrel of oil is purchased today, by the way, $108 a barrel, which is insanely high. It was $72 before the war start. So $108 a barrel, it takes to transport that oil into where it needs to go into the refinery. Then it'll sit in storage until it's, that turn for that barrel to get run through the refinery, they have to work through prior inventory first. And you do the same thing once it's refined, it'll sit in a transport and then sent to a gas station and they have to work through that inventory as well. It's literally 45 days optimistically

to get the price of gasoline on the corner to start to retreat from the oil as being traded today in global markets. So price of gas won't come down anytime soon. And then we have rates going up, I saw today, right? And we have a new Fed chairman coming in. Is there room there for something good to happen? No. This is really interesting. So thanks for all the good news, Eric.

This is awesome. People are calling me a whiner or panicking. I've been doing this a long time. No, no. You're a commodities trader. You have to put your, you have to put, you know, you have to take action. money where your mouth is when you're a commodities trader. You can't have an opinion that is partial.

You have to be clear on your opinion. That's why I'm asking you. But I'm not saying will it affect oil? I'm saying will it affect the economy sufficiently that some of this squeeze won't be felt? So two things. Let me address. 36 years as a commodity trader. I literally have a bet, a trade, a position on that will benefit if oil goes down.

And I don't think it's going down. I'm just telling you, I'm not saying things that is going to. to help my trading or my book is so speak. I'm being honest because I'm doing TV for 20 years. And I have to be honest. I have to be truthful to the people I talk to and to you and to your audience. So I'll tell you what I see, not what will benefit me more. They're looking at the price of oil that will do better for me if it goes down. I don't see it going down anytime soon. So what happened on Friday when Trump left Beijing, left Xi Jinping and Beijing without a deal to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, it went from an oil and maybe food issue, price,

issue, inflation, et cetera, here in the United States to a massive, much bigger problem because the bond traders, the bond market, that was some sort of signal to them that they realized this is going to last for a while. They started jacking up the war premium, the fear premium on interest rates. Interest weights have skyrocketed in three trading sessions. The 30-year treasury, which everyone is, you know, we go for a house, home loan, you're tied to the 30-year. It's approaching, it's actually exciting. exceeding 2007 levels when we had a major economic crisis. That's how bad it is for that.

The 10 year is approaching 5%, 4.7% and change percent. This crushes anyone who has credit card debt. You use a credit card. They're going to nail you for that rate, that rate, plus whatever they tack on to their own, you know, to make their own money as well. So these rates have gone from, the Iran issue has gone from gasoline. Yeah, food, absolutely, because.

You need a lot of energy to transport food and the manufacturing. Yes, to a global, I would say global, but certainly in the United States, housing market issue, which dwarfs all these other markets. So in a sense, the tail was wagging the dog. The dog woke up is now wagging alongside the tail. And none of it is showing any signs of good news in the economy. I wish I was bringing you better news. And if I see it happening, absolutely come back and tell you about it.

But right now, we're in store for a pretty messy, rough summer. Do you have any faith in the current Fed chair? I have faith that Trump likes them. Here's what I don't have faith. And the Fed, the Federal Reserve and Chairman specifically has massive power within that organization. Yes, it's voted on its committee, but generally what the chairman says or wants happens. Here's the issue. We can't lower federal Fed funds and interest rates in a rising inflation environment.

You would destroy the economy. They have two issues to keep employment high and to keep prices stable, right? You can't do this in this type of environment. You need inflation to at least take a breather where maybe you can then lower some interest rates, giving more fuel to the economy, make people feel better, make people make purchases, capital investment by companies, individuals having lower credit card. debt problems. But right in this environment, if you were to lower, you would throw, literally, you see this back here? You would be throwing fuel like this onto the inflation fire. He doesn't

have room to do it. I'll tell you what the silver lining is. It's not Fed Chairman Jerome Powell anymore who would likely be raising rates in this scenario. He's been very, very political. He was very friendly to the Biden administration. He's been very difficult with the Trump administration. So he was playing politics when he should only have been playing prices and employment. But Warsh's hands are absolutely locked right now as far as lowering. Maybe he stays stable. If you were smart, he'd raise it a little bit. So if, okay, I'm going to ask you to put on, look in your crystal ball, use your crystal brain and predict, say, where we are in October.

I think inflation will probably be, well, right now we're, producer inflation came out last week at triple the raise that they thought. Smartest guys, economists on the street were saying it would be up four-tenths of 1%. It was up 1.5%. So it was triple, more than tripled, the expected outcome. So producer prices are going up, which means ours are coming up too. Producers aren't going to make stuff and they eat the cost of higher crude prices, higher manufacturing prices. They're going to pass it to us.

So I think we'll probably be pushing 4%, 5% inflation, which is horrible. It's double what it should be. Gasoline prices can't be below October, September, they can't be below $4. They can't. They're going to be between $450 and $5 or higher, depending on what happens in the Middle East. Right now, it's a guaranteed lock at least a $4 handle, they say, on the gasoline pump price. It might be five. God forbid it stays through the summer.

it'll be a six. Given your knowledge and experience, it would be unwise to question that prediction. I just hope you're wrong. I hope rates are down. I hope the price are down. And I hope it goes away. For my trading account's sake, I hope I'm wrong. I would be very much profitable if I were wrong, but unfortunately, probably not.

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Sorry about the news. Cheers. I just hope you're wrong. I can still cling to my hope. But I know sort of not listening carefully to what you're saying is an unwise move, I suspect. Gloria Romero is a candidate for California lieutenant governor running alongside Steve Hilton. She's a former California State Senate Majority Leader, elected the State Assembly in 1998, state Senate in 2001. And she left the Democratic Party in 2024.

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Thank you and welcome, Gloria. Thank you. It's good to be with you, Dr. Drew. So this is a new kind of transitioning. This is transitioning from Democrat to Republican. What happened there? How does that transition work? Because I have been, you know,

I've always been just sort of a moderate it and, you know, I'd sort of pick my parties loosely over the years, not committed to one party or another. And now I would sort of think of myself as an independent more than anything. What happened there for you? Well, having been raised Catholic, I actually have been calling it a conversion. So that means that. I, you know, look, you know, I'm from the era of John F. Kennedy. You know, we saw the moon landing. We were part of the belief in American exceptionalism. And, you know, my generation was the era of,

ask not what your country can do for you, but what we can do for our country. You know, we were the working class. I think it was in America first before even Donald Trump, or even President Reagan came onto the scene. So that's what I grew up with. The working class, you put the American worker first, you believe in America, you bunker down,

you do what's good, your parents, the greatest generation. Fast forward, you know, I was a Democrat, blue collar. I represented East Los Angeles in the California State Senate, the majority leader of the California State Senate. But even as a Democrat, Dr. Drew, back in those days, I was considered to be somewhat of a bad Democrat because I was a Democrat who believed in school choice. I mean, my mother had a sixth grade level of education. I saw what education, you know, does to provide access to the American dream. And so I continuously fought for parent rights and school choice and closing that achievement gap, especially for low income and black and brown kids. Fast forward after I left

Sacramento, I continued in the field of education school choice. And then I really began to see the party just completely, in my opinion, lose its way. You know, can't define what a woman is. We were called birthing people, not mothers. And I'm Latina, so in our culture, you don't just have one mother's day. You have two mothers' days. So you can never call us birthing people in the name of climate change. We saw that the very woke Democrats were trying to basically take our gas stoves. And that's like, no, you don't do that in East LA or California because you can't toast a tortilla in a microwave or on an electric range.

You need the gas range. So there was just so much there, open borders. You know, we believe in citizenship pathways, legal immigration, but not the complete abdication and destruction of a border. But really at the end, it was even after 14 million Democrats, including myself, went out to vote. Basically, it was just done away with Joe Biden, as bad a candidate as he was, was thrown aside.

A new person was installed. That was a political coup right in front of our eyes. And I just said, you know, enough. And meanwhile, I was looking at the Republican Party. I was inspired by Donald Trump, blue-collar billionaire, commitment to the American worker, to the working class, a lot of sense, common sense. And I decided when I was ready to finally leave,

I not only left that party, the party left me, of course, but I walked away from that party, but towards the Republican Party. with many more values of faith and family and freedom that we enjoy. So what goes on in this state and in this town, southern Los Angeles, that in spite of the evidence of the massive failure of our current leaders, people have been in power for the last 15, 20 years, it's massive failure on an extraordinary scale.

And yet those people ask our population, populace to stay the course. I don't understand what course we're staying other than that of total destruction. What's wrong with the voters? What's happening here? Is it being manipulated? Are people not educated themselves? So they just keeping their head down and they just recognize the names and check the boxes where they have a familiarity? How does this work in the state? Well, I'm going to turn it around and basically say, I really think it's the power of machine. political machines are very real in California. This is about power, raw power.

And looking at the most powerful political force in California, it's actually the Teachers Union, the California Teachers Association, not big oil, not the pharmaceutical companies, not the bad corporations. It is the power of the war chest. And when you think about it, the local access to schools is the most immediate contact with the majority of parents in California. You know your teachers, you know your schools, you know your administrators. You probably don't understand and know the influence and the machinations of how elected

officials are elected by these war chas that are paid for by union Jews. But those are the people you know. And in the meantime, we've seen many politicians who don't bother to go and meet the people or knock on door. So there's a, I think, a lot. But I'll always start more so with the system. itself. The mainstream media doesn't help. You know, here in California, most Democrat politicians are never vetted. They're just pushed along with this narrative that, you know, Orange Man is bad,

and all things related to Democrats are good. So I think that people get caught up in it. And as we see a lot of the decline of legacy media, we see many of the shutdown of traditional media outlets, unless somebody has access to podcasts such as yourself and others or access even to social media platforms and it's made a great change since Elon Musk took over X, thank God, you basically just got indoctrinated. Schools have become not education factories anymore. They really are indoctrination factories. So I think it's that whole Kamal. So we have to basically break out and it's hard to break out, but a significant action, I think, is walking away. You begin the change at a personal level by walking away, calling it out and just saying, I'm not going to be part of that system

any longer. And that's hard, Dr. Drew. I mean, that was my livelihood. It was my identity for the longest time. I kept trying to reform from within, talking to voters, but you really get smashed by the system. And the last thing you can do is to say, I'm just not going to be party to this party anymore. Pardon the pun there. And so did they try to harm you in some way or silence you? Well, it was funny. I'll tell you a story. There were never any direct death threats or anything like that. But once upon a time, after I had already left the legislature in 2010, I continued. I headed up the chapter of Democrats for Education Reform in California. And I was actually sent a cease and desist letter from the...

the L.A. County Chair of the Democrat Party telling me that I could not call myself a Democrat because, golly gee, I believed in school choice and parent rights. I threw away the letter. But you get that, you know, you get the slurs about you. If you try to run for office, you're basically, you know, surmounted by all of this heavy cash that comes in to defeat you. And that's why I think this time around, this opportunity is so real to have the golden ticket, work. as a team. I think it's a great stellar team. And it's one where we believe, I think, for the first time, that we truly can turn around California, but it takes a team working together. So I have a lot of optimism. You have to be an eternal optimist. I think to live in California. I am. I fundamentally

believe that the vast majority of Californians want to see massive change in California, I have been beaten down losing election after election, but you never give up. And so I'm one that says I'm willing to put my neck down. Make your case to the Californians who are listening. What's going to be different? What do you want to do? Well, first of all, we break monopoly rule, one party rule. I was the majority leader of the California Senate.

I would be the president of the Senate. I start there. Day one, I meet with all 40 senators to make sure that when we elect Steve Hilton as governor, we get the nominations confirmed, and that makes all the difference because that begins to set up, you know, sort of the bowels of state government, the bureaucracy that voters never see. That's huge. In addition, I'm going to be a regent, a trustee, a governor for the community colleges. I'm going to really advocate on meritocracy, an intersocial promotion, fighting for Title IX to protect girls and women's sports. So I would be the leading voice on higher education. The Coastal mission, I think, is the big one, because that's where I will have a powerful bully pulpit and voice to basically end a lot of those woke fire management policies that have failed California and to begin to push for sensible policies. They're not even ideological. They're just sensible fire management. You get rid of the underbrush. You keep the reservoirs full. You make sure that you have appointments

to these boards that are not worshiping at the altar of extreme. environmentalism. So that becomes a very important role. And then the last thing again, too, is, you know, as lieutenant and governor, you just got to make sure that, because people say you just wait to see if the governor's alive today. Steve Hilton's in great health. I'll just check in to make sure he's taking his vitamins. What about this attempt by the Democrats in the state now to try to eliminate this top two rule that we have in terms of how we vote for governor? Well, you know, it's really funny. It was very controversial at the time. The Democrats did not like it. It really was something that was advocated by the minority party at the time back in, I forget what the year was.

So it's come full circle. It certainly benefited Democrats for many, many years. I think this is the first time they got sort of a boo. Golly gee, it could happen. So they're changing it. And I believe that the Democrats will be successful. But you know what? Most people I've spoken with in California, want to go ahead and end this jungle primary. You belong to a party for a reason. So I think it's reasonable to make that change and to say if you belong to a green party, for example, we should be able to advocate and put our nominee forward or libertarian or Republican or Democrat. So I think overall it will have been an experiment that just failed and probably will just meet the dustbin of history and I think overwhelmingly Californians will support that.

Having spoken to governors over the years that they express extreme frustration with our legislature and kind of what you're talking about, the, how can I say this kindly? Lack of thoughtfulness and courage, maybe that would be a way to see it. That's the kindest way I can say it. Is that improving? Well, I'd go even further. I would just say lack of backbone. You know, Sacramento, California, imagine the fourth largest economy in the world.

This is not a sleepy little town. This is a place of raw power that is recognized around the world. So you've got to be tough. You have to remember not to kind of get sucked into the drama and all the pomp and circumstance of being on the red carpet in Sacramento. A lot of people lose their way. They forget what being a public servant is, and you get sucked into the role and the hegemony of the lobbyists there and the powers that be.

So it takes fortitude to basically fight that power right from the get-go. So, yes, I think that is the case. I think there are so many good people in Sacramento, but what happens with one-party rule is it not only suppresses the voice of the minorities that are there, the political minorities, but also for good people in the majority party, it suppresses their voice because they basically get sent the equivalent of the horses hit to them to basically say, go along to get along. Otherwise, you're out of any political future. And unfortunately, I went up there.

I gave a talk about three years, well, maybe pre-COVID, maybe five or six years ago. And they had me tour their homeless problem, which was massive. They particularly have a meth problem up there. They have meth gangs that are just unbelievable. And they have a severe mental health problem with the people down by the river who were fed by that food service down there by the river. And I said I got up, it's a conference. It's a prestigious conference about, I don't know, city planning or something for the city. I don't know what it is.

But I got up there and some, I'm sick of you people. You are negligent manslaughter. You are murderers. You are murdering people. And I'm sick of this. and I felt like I was talking I was I was brutal and I felt like I was talking to like a

like a ghost like punching a ghost or something it just doesn't go anywhere they don't even react they don't seem to care and I was just shocked I was shocked but you know and it's only gotten worse

and I think they hide behind their qualified immunity and meantime people are dying by the God knows how many thousands every year and that's just one topic which is homeless topic. So I don't know. I get very, very, very, I get frustrated with the voters in California. I get frustrated with the legislature in California. I have an optimism bias too. That's why I'm still here. I haven't fled to Florida yet like so many others. And I do also

believe that it's worth fighting for this state and even this part of the country of the Southern California. And I'm delighted to see you on the golden ticket. And I appreciate you joining me here. I want to give you closing thoughts. Well, I think if anything, whenever we feel discouraged, I just think about the people of Iran today. And I'm especially, I still call myself a feminist. I'm a Democrat who knows what a woman is, by the way. And I look at those women, nameless women, we saw many of their faces, you know, on social media. But I think, my God, after 47 years, standing up, believing that they can take back, you know, a life that they long and desire for and that they deserve people around the world,

are freedom, and people will fight for it. So I think in California, we have to remember that toughen up, the greatest generation. We can be a great generation as well. I think it's worth fighting for California, 250 years. You know, in this year especially when we celebrate America's birthday, 250 years, the best present we can give to America is to take back the golden state. So that's why I'm running. I ask your listeners, viewers, to go to my website, Gloria,

J.romero.com. Gloria J.romero.com. It's an honor to be part of the golden ticket with Steve Hilton and the others. And I believe it's a fearsome for some. And it shows what we can do when we, the people, are just willing to stand up and say, enough of 16 years of one party rule. It's up to us. It's in our hands.

And it's so easy to do. It's just they mail the ballot to us. All we have to do is fill it out and mail it back. and we can take back our state. So that's my hope, and that's why I'm running for lieutenant governor. And I really appreciate the opportunity to share these thoughts with you. I appreciate you being here. I'm also very enthusiastic about Michael Gates for Attorney General and about Bud.

Is his last name? Phillips, Bud? What's Bud's last name? For the controller. No, Herb. Herb. Herb, yeah. Who's just, he's just come out of essentially retirement with a plan.

What's that? How'd you get butt out of that? I don't know. I don't know where I got that. He's a great fun. He's the most fun person who I didn't have a drink with. He is fun. Well, he has a good plan to actually change the way our...

We voted for you, Gloria, and sent it in yesterday. So everything is all settled in this family. So thank you for being here and good luck. Thank you for the opportunity. Bye, bye. You bet. I'll remember, buddy. Oh, I forgot to ask her where she wants people to go if they want to support or learn more.

Oh, it's in her. I put it on the Twitter. Hold on one second. Let's see. I can probably find it here. Gloria Romero.com. Just go to Gloria J. Romero on X or Gloria Romero. R-O-M-E-R-M-O.com.

I think her website is also Gloria J.Romero.com. I put it up on screen. Oh, I don't see a J. on this one. Look it up, everybody. Susan look at look on both Gloria Romero maybe it's Gloria J. Romero.com Okay

Well on Twitter you put Gloria Romero But it does go Gloria J. Romero on X2 also Oh it does? What's wrong with my eyes? I hope we're right here All right, we are irresponsible At least I am

All right let me look at you guys on the re-stream It's no word, she has both She has both She has both a rest of the same place Smart politician there Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, I quickly look at the, uh, rant. How you guys are doing over there? Uh, first lady of Susan Finsky was admitting that she's never really been politically aware until this election. Yeah, we've interviewed a lot of people.

Well, that's interesting. I'm not, I've never been very political or voted a lot. I've been voting a lot more lately. You kind of have to be these days now. It's invaded every part of life after COVID. You have to be political now because when they did. But California really needs help. Exactly. It just doesn't seem to be going in the right direction. It always goes Democrat.

That's the sad part. All right. I am looking at the upcoming shows and I see Adreya Mateo. I see Gadsad. I see Andrew Yang. I see Nick Freitas. See a lot of amazing guests coming. I'm looking at it again here, Naomi Wolf.

Dr. Victory, we are going to be gone for a couple of weeks. And Dr. Victory is going to sit in for me. Do we have other? Is Cura Davis also sitting in? There's actually the list that Emily has prepared is about double this length. So I have like the most recent, the closest upcoming ones and then I just kind of spit in a few of them. I'm actually looking at the long. I'm kind of looking at the long list here.

Uncle Cliff's coming back. Joshua Lysack. Oh, Drew Lentz. This is so fun. John Lott, Naomi twice on list. Brad Williams, comedian coming in. Willie Soon. Is Willie Soon the, um,

The climate specialist? Is that who that is? Help me somebody? It's, let's see. Patrick Soon's son. Wait, really? No, no. You got it. There is a Willie Soon who's a astrophysicist, if that's the same one. Yeah, I think it may be him. I think now that he was the guy that was here before and told us that all climate models were the revenge of the D students, that he had taught these people, they were all shitty students, and they were advocating the. models that were just terrible and that he had studied this his whole career. He's probably my age, he was younger. And he made it, his models show very clearly that the sun is the source of the climate change we're seeing right now.

And there's literally nothing we can do about it. So that will be interesting to get him back. Joshua Lysak I see in here. Okay. So we are back on today's Tuesday, Wednesday with Brad there, Kelsey Sharon, Bethany, eyes are at Anthony Brown coming by. What's that, Susan? What day is it? Yeah, I know. It's only Tuesday.

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