Ask Dr. Drew - Ed Dowd Reveals New “Bombshell” Data That Looks Like A Cover Up w/ Dr. Kelly Victory – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 242

Episode Date: July 23, 2023

“Something’s going on with our workforce that we’ve never seen before,” warns data analyst Ed Dowd, whose investigation appears to show an alarming increase in disabilities following the rollout of mRNA vaccines. “The signals found here are just ridiculous and it looks like a cover up.” Ed Dowd – a financial analyst and co-treasurer for Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s presidential campaign – discusses new data from his research of the COVID-19 pandemic, with Dr. Kelly Victory and Dr. Drew. Watch Ed Dowd’s previous episode from May 2023: https://youtu.be/No03pOGTcyQ Ed Dowd is founder of Phinance Technologies and author of “Cause Unknown: The Epidemic of Sudden Death in 2021 & 2022.” Dowd is a former Wall Street analyst and BlackRock portfolio manager who utilized pattern recognition to get ahead of his peers during his stock picking career. He is a founding partner of Phinance Technologies. In early 2021, Ed noticed a rise in reports about sudden deaths among athletes and young people across the country. He amassed evidence from the insurance industry, funeral homes, and government databases to uncover an increase in sudden deaths among working-age Americans. Follow Dowd at https://twitter.com/DowdEdward 「 SPONSORED BY 」 Find out more about the companies that make this show possible and get special discounts on amazing products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • PRIMAL LIFE - Dr. Drew recommends Primal Life's 100% natural dental products to improve your mouth. Get a sparkling smile by using natural teeth whitener without harsh chemicals. For a limited time, get 60% off at https://drdrew.com/primal • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew • BIRCH GOLD - Don’t let your savings lose value. You can own physical gold and silver in a tax-sheltered retirement account, and Birch Gold will help you do it. Claim your free, no obligation info kit from Birch Gold at https://birchgold.com/drew • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get an extra discount with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 ABOUT the SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 WITH DR. KELLY VICTORY 」 Dr. Kelly Victory MD is a board-certified trauma and emergency specialist with over 30 years of clinical experience. She served as CMO for Whole Health Management, delivering on-site healthcare services for Fortune 500 companies. She holds a BS from Duke University and her MD from the University of North Carolina. Follow her at https://earlycovidcare.org and https://twitter.com/DrKellyVictory. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 For over 30 years, Dr. Drew has answered questions and offered guidance to millions through popular shows like Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Dr. Drew On Call (HLN), Teen Mom OG (MTV), and the iconic radio show Loveline. Now, Dr. Drew is opening his phone lines to the world by streaming LIVE from his home studio. Watch all of Dr. Drew's latest shows at https://drdrew.tv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome, everybody. Today, once again, Ed Dowd joins us. Kelly Victory came in for this special appearance of Ed Dowd. And we have promoted this as a bombshell, but I would say jaw-dropping data is a little more accurate. It's extraordinary what he has to talk to us about today. And he will take us through his findings, and you arrive at your own conclusion. Of course, Ed is a businessman, a data analyst, and he is just looking at the facts and presenting them to all of us and Kelly and myself to try to make sense of it.

But there are some extraordinarily outlying phenomenon underway here and we need to figure out what that is. We, of course, are out there on the restream. We are on Rumble and the Twitter spaces. We may have an opportunity to take a couple of calls today. We'll see. Tomorrow, we Twitter spaces. We may have an opportunity to take a couple calls today. We'll see.

Tomorrow, we have Dr. Yadin in here. That'll be a different time. It's 1130 Pacific, an earlier time. But today, we are going to get on with it with Ed Dowd right after this. Our laws as it pertains to substances are draconian and bizarre. A psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous.

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Ed, welcome back. Thanks for having me on, Dr. Drew. Great to be here. So for people who don't know you, explain who you are and why you're someone who fell into this role of looking at this data. So I'm the next, well, currently trying to start a company back on Wall Street, but ex-Wall Street investor, worked at BlackRock for 10 years, picking stocks for growth portfolios, had to analyze trends and numbers and data. And that's what we did. We tried to figure out trends before everybody else did to make money for our clients.

So I've come into this strange world of the pandemic and we've discovered excess deaths that are continuing on into 22 and 23. We've discovered disabilities across the globe. And today we're presenting data from the UK that's called the Personal Independence Pension System. It's a disability pension that actually digs down into causes and human systems.

And we're not doctors, so we're presenting this data that's pretty stunning. And we're asking all doctors to kind of help us figure out what's going on. Let's put aside, let's suspend what's the cause of it. We just need to know that this is occurring, it's a serious problem, and we need doctors to look at our data and help us explain what's going on. And remind me again, I actually forget,

what got you interested in all this in the first place? I started seeing anomalies occurring in 21, early 21, just strange occurrences of sudden deaths amongst athletes. Started to hear about people getting sick and having adverse events. Now, obviously, I think it's linked to something, but let's suspend that for a moment. Let's just talk about the data that we're seeing today. It's pretty devastating and overwhelming. And it overwhelms my team and I, because we're sad to see this kind of damage going on currently in the population.

And who is your team? So again, yeah, I wrote a book, "'Cause Unknown, The Epidemic of Sudden Death' in 21 and 22. My team is Carlos Alegria, Yuri Nunes. We're partners of the of the firm. Finance technology spelled with a PH. They're both PhD physicists and Carlos has a PhD in finance as well we come from the Wall Street world. We also have assembled a team of volunteers data scientists

and other PhD physicists we have editors we have some Silicon Valley support now. So we have a team of people. The data I'm presenting is not a bunch of guys with spreadsheets on the internet. This is serious work that took months to analyze and present in the format that we put on our website. And basically any doctor can go to this report, look at a human system and then drill down into the cause

and see the changes in the claims that that are occurring over time it's a time-based series and we analyze statistical occurrences and whether or not they're normal circling back to cause unknown talk to people for a minute about what you did find there because I know the conversation goes back and forth. Were there sudden deaths? Were there not sudden deaths? Was it just being overreported? What did you actually find there?

So we found there was a mixed shift. There were access deaths in 2020, about 500,000 in the U.S. They were mostly old. There was another 500,000 in 2021. And there was a huge mixture from old to young. And that's when millennials and Gen X really started to go off the rails and have excessive mortality.

Later on in our investigation, we started looking at the US disability data, and that seemed to be detrimentally affecting the employed more so than the rest of the general US population. We looked at actuarial data, and that seemed to be the worst. Those who were employed at Fortune 500 and mid-sized companies had really bad high excess mortality, especially amongst the millennials. And there was an event in the third quarter of 2021 where excess mortality for millennials rose to 84% above normal. Hmm. And did anybody ever explain that? Was that ever taken up by anyone else to sort of look into it?

Or you've been hitting headwinds in terms of getting any kind of attention with that data? We've gotten some attention. I presented this data before Senator Ron Johnson in December. It is getting out there, but not in the way that needs to be with regulatory authorities investigating this. Some of the explanations I heard were drug overdoses, missed cancer screening appointments, and suicides, which temporally didn't make any sense. Then later on, they blamed Delta. They said Delta only affected

the young because their immune systems are so robust that it somehow affected their immune system more so than the older folks. Just nonsensical things that were never, you know, they were said in the I know we're going to sort of stay out of this argument for the minute, but I'm starting to see more data on post-COVID phenomenon. Still hard data to kind of slog through. I mean, it looks like something's going on, but nobody asking questions about anything other than post-COVID or whether there was a co-existent vaccine or anything. Although I did see one study that tried to parse that out a little bit and seemed to do so. Have you seen any of that data? No, we haven't.

Long COVID is a thing. It's not a fake thing. Long COVID is real. Some people, they get COVID, continue to unfortunately manufacture the spike protein in themselves without any vaccination. So that's a thing. But the numbers are not, the numbers of the long COVID cases doesn't explain what we're seeing. Yeah, nor does missed cancer screening. You'll see when we show this data, that that's an almost an absurd notion that young people who, by the way, don't get cancer screening. Let me ask this.

I mean, don't typically get cancer screen anyway. But are we in the numbers you're going to show us? Does it parse out by age group somewhat? Oh, you can go into this data. And today we're going to talk about totals, but you can go into the data and you can look at different age groups and the data sets for every five years. So you can you can go in yourself as a doctor, look at the ages that are being affected and and analyze it yourself. But the total is devastating in and of itself. But it's all age groups.

It's not just the old. Is it, because we're not going to get into it, I just want to throw this out there at the beginning. Would it be accurate to say that it's fairly uniform across all ages or there's some sort of pattern to it? You know, it depends on the cause and the human system but it looks pretty uniform to me just eyeballing it um it's it's not this is weird which is not this is not skewed to the old it's it's weird if we're gonna i we are gonna be talking a little bit about cancers and hematology as we get into this data and that that is not exclusively, but primarily illnesses related to aging.

I mean, that's where we see that stuff. I mean, that's actually why I take care of older patients. I like taking care of people that have sickness, things that I can do things for, not people that just need me to sort of screen them and pat them on the back. And they are not young people. Cancer, hematological malignancies happen in young people but it certainly isn't other than maybe aml and people

in their 20s there's one illness that sort of peaks right in there and all in childhood sure peaks in there but everything else is is pretty much happens to older folk and uh i'm guessing does it also break down by diagnosis if we were to get into this data so yeah so the humans we there's uh two two different uh data sets is that you know the total human system and then you can go to the other one that does it human system then by cause the diagnose the actual cause and you can look at anything you want that's what we're calling on doctors because we're not doctors and we want them to look at this animal and the data is the data and try to figure out what's going on in the UK and also we can we can surmise this

is going on in the US as well and we can get to that later in the show but this is that this is just data with so much, it's so much data, it's so rich, we need help. We need people to look at this, take our data, write your own paper, come to your own conclusions. We don't care, we're just data scientists and analysts giving you the data. The statistical anomalies we find are so off the charts

that it's concerning and regulators need to at least tell us that it's happening, which they're not, and why. And I noticed that John Campbell has been recently sort of making that plea over and over again, and he's been looking at the UK data and shaking his head. What is the level of incompetence that they can't at least look at this and comment on it? Well, with that as a frame, I'm going to break early today because I want to get right into this bombshell data, or what I consider jaw-dropping data. We are going to talk about some black swan events that need to be explained.

Ed Dowd, once again, where should people go if they want to read your book? Where should they go if they want more information about your organization? Finance? want more information about your organization. So, uh, finance Amazon. Yeah. The book is on Amazon and finance technologies.com spelled with the pH instead of an F and I'm on Twitter at Edward, uh, at dad, Edward and, uh, get her at Edward dad. So I drop a lot of our reports on Twitter, but then you go to the website

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Hey, Ed, always great to see you. Thanks for making time to join us again today. You know, you and I communicate frequently and you've been passing back and forth to me the data as you and your team have been uncovering it and sourcing it, sort of trying to put it into different categories. For the purpose of today, you are a statistics and data guru. But for the purpose of our audience and those who might not be, I'm going to ask you to explain what we are talking about today like I'm going to ask you to explain what we're talking about today like I'm a five-year-old, like I have absolutely no background in statistics or

data or an ability to read research so that people really understand what we're looking at. So to be clear, the data that you're going to present, and I want to pick through some of it specifically, but the data you're presenting in general, if I'm not mistaken, is information that came from the UK, from their disability. Fundamentally, people in the UK file a disability claim for any particular reason, and you're looking specifically at those disability claims that were approved, if you will, so that they are being paid on. These are claims that are being paid on for people who have made a claim for some particular medical issue. Pretty much right? Correct. It's the UK personal independence pension system. It's their disability payment system. 60% of the claims are dismissed. 40% are cleared. That's called a clearance or are being and is eventually paid. And that ratio has stayed the same throughout this whole fiasco.

There was I want I want to I do want to highlight something that we put on our website. There was a delay in processing these claims in 2021 and it got to 24 weeks in August of 2021. And then in 2022 and it got to twenty four weeks in August of twenty twenty one. And then in twenty twenty two it got to sixteen weeks so they they brought the time of clearance

down there was a backlog. You didn't do to the- pandemic. Then as of January twenty three it's back down to normal fourteen weeks so the data we're presenting is that as of January twenty three that they issue this data every six

months old. Get some new data to get us up to date soon. But I just want to throw that caveat out. There was a logjam. And so some of the things you see in 2021 may be due to the logjam, but there's enough time series for us to analyze that something has gone off the rails, and especially in 2022. 2022 is when a lot of the signals really start to take off. And so unlike what you had presented

previously, it was just an overall general increase in disability claims, which we've seen in the United States, a huge increase in disability claims overall. You and your team have parsed this out into different disease systems or body systems. So it's not only what disabilities have increased, but based on a particular diagnosis or a particular medical condition so that we can look at it and say what disabilities are related to cardiovascular issues or musculoskeletal issues or neurologic issues, skin issues, and on and on. So you went through and parsed it out based on different conditions, different medical diagnoses, if you will. And so in each one, I could say, I will summarize for you before we actually start looking at your slides. It is fair to say say there is an overwhelming, cataclysmic increase in the incidence of many, many different categories

of medical conditions. Something horrific is going on. And we as doctors, and certainly as a society, as a medical complex, are obligated in my mind to understand not only that something is happening, but then start coming up with some theories or some ideas about what might be happening and how the heck we're going to address it. Because when I look at this data, I'm gobsmacked. It is absolutely overwhelming in terms of the implications, not only for human health and suffering, but for the cost of healthcare and for the solvency of our workforce, if you will. So with that, I will let you take it from here and start with how you'd like to present the data, and then I'll pop in with questions. Yeah, so the UK data is a treasure trove

because it gives us causes. The disability data that we've talked about previously in the US is the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. It's not claims, it's a survey, but it's a survey that has given a strong, strong signal that we were able to parse it out between employed, unemployed and the general population. And that's a strong signal that we were able to parse it out between employed, unemployed, and the general population.

And that's a strong signal that something was going on in the employed workforce in the US. But it's not a claim, it's a real-time survey. So that data, well, great. We were looking for data like this, and we found it in the UK personal independence pension system. And this is, again, I want to reiterate, we're not doctors and we need the help of the medical community and the regulators to explain

what's going on because it's alarming. So with that, let me start with the first slide, which is just the percentage increases over time of these different human body systems that the claims have, the claims cleared and paid have gone up. And you can see, I'll point out hematology, hematological, which I didn't know what that was when my team and I first started doing this, I had to look it up. Again, I'm not a doctor.

That's up 522% in 2022. And I wanna say this is versus trend. It's not versus 21 or 20, it's versus a trend that we analyze from 2016 to 2019. So it's a percent increase over trend and the trends were stable and then this exploded. And you can see, if you look at this chart, different body systems started off slowly in 2020,

picked up speed in 21 and just exploded in 2022. So something is going on that is detrimental to the population of the UK. We can link it to the US because we've already linked the UK work time lost in the UK to the US. Same phenomenon there is going on. So it's not hard for us to surmise that if we had access to the US data, we'd see similar results. And I just want to point out, you know, auditory issues up 121% in 2022 versus trend, cardiovascular 121. You know, oncology just started going up this year in 2022. I mean, last year and then genital urinary is up a hundred and forty two percent that's that's to do with the reproductive system So again, these these numbers are just crazy percentage wise and then we can convert these into and here's where I'm going to talk Like like your five-year-old. Dr. Kelly

We can convert these things to what's called Z scores or standard or standard deviations. And a standard deviation, all it is, is there's an average. There's an average of occurrences that occur around a mean, the average. And the further away you get from the mean, the more unlikely it is to occur. So, you know, things that jump out at you are called standard deviation events. So three standard deviations happens 0.3% of the time from normal. That's what statistics is. It's an observation from normal. So three standard deviations is 0.3% of the time. In Wall Street, that's a big deal.

A lot of these standard deviations from trend are just eye-popping. We look at them on a monthly basis and an annual basis. And on the annual numbers, hematology is up 61 standard deviations from trend. And just to kind of give you an idea how kooky that is, that's like the probability of a black hole appearing near the earth and we get sucked in in two years i mean it's just it it it's not uh something that is likely to occur mistakenly and in this case across all body systems i'll just read some of the i want to i want to let's let's hang out before you put a number on that i'm imagining it's about point zero maybe ten zero uh one percent somewhere in that zone point zero zero zero zero zero zero one yeah it's way or is it 20 zeros it could it

could be 20 i didn't do the math but i'll tell you this it's look in wall street a three standard deviation is called a tail event doesn It doesn't happen that often. And that, you know, sometimes we see extreme six standard deviation events, and that's kooky. 61 standard deviations is lights out, black swan event, something's gone off the rails. I mean, it's just, it's so many zeros and so unlikely to happen by accident

that it has to be explained. And that's what we're calling on the medical community to explain this. Yeah. The crazy thing is if it were 20 sigma, if it were 20 sigma, that would be true. 60 sigma, you said that. I was like, that's not even, I can't even like understand that far outlying. And you have to put it in perspective. As I said, you have to put it in perspective also that it's not just one body system.

It's all of them happening at the same time. Well, several. Well, several, a dozen at least, Ed, right? A dozen systems at least that show this. At least a dozen systems have gone off the rails above 10 standard deviations on an annual basis. On a monthly basis, the standard deviations are lower because we have more occurrences. But on an annual basis, it's a disaster. On a monthly basis, it's still a disaster and still black swan events. So it's black swan whether you're looking at monthly or yearly, and we present both.

So it's, it's, it's insane. So to give it, give people an idea, for example, let's take something like auditory issues, things that might, as a physician, I could tell you things, diagnoses that would fall under the gross category of auditory would be things like tinnitus, ringing in the ears, hearing loss, okay, those sorts of things, development of an acoustic neuroma. Those are things that would all fall under auditory. If you think about things that would fall under the cardiovascular umbrella, that could be anything from myocarditis, pericarditis, heart attack, myocardial infarction, certainly sudden death. Rhythm disturbances. Rhythm disturbances.

Those would all fall under that umbrella. And we can go through each of the different systems. Yes, POTS, you know, positional orthostatic tachycardia would fall under that. So there are lots of different things that would fall under each of these categories. But each one is so off the charts in terms of the statistical increases. Was there anything, Ed, any category for which you saw things less than trend? Was there anything for which the current numbers were below trend? Or even at trend? There's a category called others

and that was below that that's uh below trend uh everything everything went up everything went up and um you know some more than others and you know i i just want to post the chart of the human the hematological body system the year-over- chart, just to show you what that looks like. Before you do, I'm going to have you put it up, but before we dig into it, I'm just sitting here thinking to myself, when we start to make observations about cardiac and cancer and stuff, I feel people immediately getting more rigid in their position. It'd be really interesting to me if we use the audio as sort of the marker, because I have seen ringing in the ears, loss of hearing from both COVID and from the vaccine and from both. And people don't get as exercised about that system as they do about, say, cardiac words. No, no, no.

It's not that. It's not that. But it's interesting to me that I have seen both with the audio system. Well, Kelly? The visual system is up 80% from trend in 2022. It was up 9% in 21. And the visual was actually down a little bit in 2020. So the visual system is also getting hammered as well. Visual and auditory. What I'm going to throw out there just right now, and then we'll delve into it later,

I'm just going to plant this seed for everybody when we go to look at the data. As a doctor, because you're asking for the input of physicians, the way I'm going to look at this, because I have seen that, is that we are having an epidemic of itises. Itis, you know, the suffix itis at the end of something, whether it's neuritis, appendicitis, pericarditis, means inflammation. Okay? We are having an epidemic of inflammation. Now there's no question, Drew, that you are right, that COVID itself causes an inflammatory reaction.

But the thing causing the inflammatory reaction is without a doubt, the spike protein. And I will tell you that the more quickly you get that inflammatory agent away from you, the more quickly you will resolve that inflammation. And there's something out there that doesn't let you get away from that toxic spike protein. There's something out there that keeps the inflammatory process going.

And we can all surmise what that might be and get into that later. But I will tell you, when I look at the data, each category is an epidemic of inflammation and itises. That's what all of these are. And if you remember, the cancer and hematology part is a little mysterious to me, but I agree with you on virtually everything else. And if you remember back when we first interviewed Ryan Cole, the three of us agreed that endothelitis was the primary inflammation, the inflammation of the arteries of the blood supply. And that's where this was going on.

Interestingly enough, is it interesting that things like budesonitis and decadrons, steroids, and fluvoxamine, which is actually an anti-inflammatory through the sigma-1 receptor in the brain. These were the things that were useful in COVID. Very interesting, isn't it, that this is all kind of coming together. But anyway, let's get to the data. And by the way, let me also throw in there, by the way, what a great anti-inflammatory is ivermectin. Ivermectin uh ivermectin is a it has very very powerful um you remember the horse paste uh a very powerful anti-inflammatory anyway so all right so get to do we let's look at that you wanted to look at the cardiovascular data that's

well i want to i want to look at it i just want to go through a couple slides want to look at a cup I just want to get go through a couple slides just look at hematology just I just want people to visualize it it's a year-over-year chart that has blue bars it would be chart three there it is and so that's just a stunning visual that's just starting visual that's the that's that a stunning visual. That's from Trend. Then we can throw up the cardiac failure trend. I think I have it on a monthly basis. And you can see cardiac failure. That's chart four. There it is.

There's cardiac failure. You can see what it was looking like, Trend, before. And that's up 513%. The Z score there is 17. And then the final, not the final, but the fourth chart is, or the fifth chart is, no, I'm sorry, the fourth chart is autistic spectrum disorders.

This is baffling to us. This is up 255%. Again, we're not doctors. I have no idea what to make of that. That's weird. That is weird. Yeah, that's weird. That's weird.

Let me help you out. I wasn't aware there was adult onset on autism, but that's occurred. So that's something to be investigated. I don't even pretend to know what's going on there, but it's up. And then finally, I just want to present the final slide.

Yeah, the final slide I want to present is the US disability data that as of June, that's slide five, I believe it's, yeah, there it is. So I've talked a lot about this data. It's a survey, it's a real time survey, and you can see it started going off the rails statistically in February of 21 and took off. And then it kind of, the good news was

the rate of change slowed, but unfortunately, in the last two months, we've added 1.3 million or 1.2 million newly disabled as self-identified from this survey. So it took off in June. We added 850,000. It looks like the rate of change is accelerating again. So we have a crisis.

I don't want to, you know, I have an idea what it is, but we need to come together as a nation and a medical community and figure this out and stop it because it's not stopping. It's not slowing. It's re slowing. It's re-accelerating. Ed, when you look at- Are none of these organizations that are handing out- Go ahead, Kelly. As you say, Ed, when you look at the data from the UK, the data that you'd been presenting before, for any of the categories, does the increase seem to be slowing? Are we hitting a plateau on any of them or do

they all continue to increase? What was the pattern, the trajectory of the increases? 2022, it accelerated. And we only have data as of Jan 23. We want to, obviously, when we get that data, we'll update this, but I would love to see it come down in 2023. Unfortunately, given the U.S. disability data we just saw that's more real time as of June, I suspect it might be continuing to hopefully at least the rate of change slow, but the trend will probably still not be our friend. Okay. I'm curious that the people people really quick kelly i'm just curious about the people

that are writing the checks why aren't the people who have the purse strings uh freaking out frankly why aren't they why are and and if and you presented this stuff to a senator what are they doing about this what are the any regulators, are they just being silent about it while they try to figure it out? Or is there really a complete lack of willingness to accept that something's happening? Well, we can say for certain in the UK, if they haven't noticed this increase, then they're asleep at the switch. But there's definitely a potential problem in the UK pension disability system. In the US, we have not had access to the data,

that disability data. We only have access to this BLS survey, but I suspect money going out through our disability system has increased substantially. And if we had access to the data we could show that so The bottom line is money money monies are now changing hands I know for a fact that long-term insurance and disability at insurance companies is well above trend They're starting to ask questions

They're not as concerned because they'll just price it up if the trend doesn't correct itself that they still think it's going back to normal But the insurance companies will just raise prices, unfortunately. So this is becoming a disaster. I will tell you, Drew, that the life insurance companies in the United States are freaking out. January of 2022, the article came out by the CEO of the largest life insurance company in the United States saying that all-cause mortality was up 40% in working-age people, people between the ages of 19 and 49, up 40%. And they were freaking out because the life insurance companies cannot remain solvent at that rate. So they've gone radio silent recently, but I suspect that they and the disability insurers and the health insurers are starting

to freak out. As Ed said, unfortunately, and that's one of the things I want to talk about, is there's an impact beyond just the human suffering component of it. And the financial impact of this is huge in terms of the impact it's going to have on not only the medical system, the healthcare system, the availability of resources, but the cost of insurance. So let's talk, Ed, did you look at all at what this means in the UK in terms of people no longer in the workforce because they are on disability. Were you guys able to get into that at all? No, we haven't. We've analyzed absences and lost work time. We haven't looked at their overall disability and employment data. What I can say is that the insurance companies are really going to lose a lot of

money in disability. You got to remember deaths are tragic, but they're smaller in number. The disabilities are much larger and this problem is going to continue for years unless they wake up. Yeah. So that not only are they paying out disability, but one has to assume with these massive increases of people having claims paid, that those people are likely no longer in the workforce. That's why they're getting disability. So you have to, you look at actually workforce, who's employed, who's not, and how you run things. Let's look at what we're dealing with in this country. You can't find people to work. There are companies that literally are hamstrung because they can't get employees. If you start sidelining your otherwise your

previously able-bodied folks, Drew, because they now have a neurologic problem or a cardiac problem or an autoimmune system issue and can't work, this is devastating on a lot of levels. Well, let me also highlight something that happened this weekend. Luke Grauman is an economist who, he didn't name the cause, but he said, what if US disability rolls have gone up 5 million and the unemployment number has been affected by that, so the Federal Reserve is getting the wrong signal and keeping interest rates too long too high for too long So this this has implications beyond the Fed I think the Fed is the Federal Reserve's making a policy error because they're looking at the employment numbers, which is low unemployment But if the more people are disappearing due to disability the unemployment number is all messed up and the signal's wrong.

So what I'm happy about is that a mainstream economist started to point this out, that something's going on with disability. And that's all, you know, look, I have my theories, but this needs to be a national conversation. I'm happy to see someone call it out as a problem and it's messing up other economic numbers. So, you know, other than the economic piece, I mean, the question really is, Drew, who's, you know, in our country, in the United States, it's very clear it is the CDC's job. It is their mandate to look into this data. That's what they are supposed to do. If any one of these parameters, any one of these groups of conditions was increased, God knows, three sigma, let alone 60 sigma, it is their job to say, what the heck is going on

in cardiovascular disease or neurologic disease or genitourinary disease, let alone across the board. But the CDC has turned a blind eye at this from what I can tell. I mean, Ed, are you seeing anybody in the US or the UK from that perspective, from the public health perspective, looking at this or saying what the heck is going on? No, not at all. You know, it's baffling to me. And our next report that we're going to do is we like to check our work, right? So this is one database. We're going to get access, hopefully, to the NIH systems, causes, and apps. We already put on our website, which I haven't talked about because it's too much noise for too many people to understand, but NIH absence and work hours lost mirrors the general UK

economy. We're going to get causes for the NIH system, the staff employed, and we're probably going to find similar data to the UK PIP, personal independence pension system. So we like to check our work and we think we're going to get the same results in a different database. We like to have more than one database. Yeah. Well, interestingly, one of the things that occurred to me when you were looking at the increases and particularly because you used as your trend, your parameter for trend was from 2016 through 19. Some months ago, many months ago, I had Colonel Teresa Long from the military on to look. She exposed what they found in DMED, the Defense Military Epidemiology Database,

which remarkably shows very, very similar increases. They looked at increases in pulmonary emboli, for example, blood clots to the lung. They looked at increases in fertility issues, increases in cardiac issues, and found very similar numbers to what you are seeing in the UK in terms of increases. 400% increase, say, in the incidence of pulmonary emboli, blood clots to the lung in 2021 and 22 compared to that same period of time, looking from 2016 to 19. So I suspect you are right. If you were to look, really get into the granular data in the US, I suspect you're going to find something really very similar. And the data I think is going to be easily replicated. So I guess what I would ask you

now is of all the data you looked at, go back to the UK data. What was the category, if there was one that stuck out to you the most, what was the most overwhelming one that you saw? Well, it was hematological on an absolute numbers basis, but looking at what's going on with um the reproductive system looks like women are getting it worse than men in our opinion so it's interesting that is interesting because for a couple reasons one is that's consistent with what naomi wolf has been reporting for quite some time number one and then in the hematology side i i wonder that we need to kind of parse that out a little bit. I'm wondering if you have oncology data,

because when you say hematology, I'm going to bet most of that is clotting disorders and PE and things like that. I'm going to bet, because it's not going to be leukemia. Yeah, there's an oncology body system, and then it breaks down into the different here. Let me just take a quick look.

Breaks down into the different, let me go to oncology. So breast cancer, respiratory tract, genitourinary tract, cancers of the hematological system, cancers of the brain and spinal cord. So we have an oncology section that gives a bunch of different classifications. And that's up how much? Which one do you want? The general category, oncology. Oncology on a monthly basis let me do total is on a

let's just do percent on a monthly basis it's up 19 on an annual basis it's up uh 35 35. 35 Sigma? No, that's percentage. The Sigma, the Sigma is a monthly, only two standard deviations, but the signal shows... Only two standard deviations.

Yeah. To be fair, that could be... If we look at that by age group and stuff, that could be screening. That could be living alone and not eating right and not exercising and all the other stuff we did to people by lockdown. That's conceivable. It's conceivable. I'm not saying it is. It's conceivable.

The other stuff, no, not conceivable. What will be interesting is, you know. Hold on. Hold on. I was giving you bad bad data um uh the the percent increase is 35 the z score on an annual basis for oncology all of oncology is where's the z score is uh 15 okay 1500 in in 22, in 15 and 22, in 21, the Z-score was three. So it's gone up in 22. So this is all oncology. I was looking at a specific cancer before, so I apologize. So whatever that cancer I was looking at, it's two standard deviations. I will tell you what we are seeing clinically to try to put a clinical

perspective on this is we are seeing sort of two categories of things related to cancers. Number one, we are seeing turbo cancers, reactivation of cancers that had been previously deemed to be in remission that are coming back with a vengeance where people go from being, quote, in remission to fundamentally dead, having metastatic disease everywhere, overwhelming in a matter many times of weeks, if not just months. So we're seeing these turbo cancers, and then we're seeing the more indolent cancers, ones that are coming on more slowly. I suspect what we will see, unfortunately, and I don't take any joy in being right on this, but I'm guessing what we will see, unfortunately, and I don't take any joy in being right on this,

but I'm guessing what we will see is the cancer line, Ed, continue to increase. Other things may plateau, things like auditory issues, tinnitus, issues of blood clotting may plateau over time, if you and I are correct about what's actually causing these. But the incidence of cancers, reproductive issues, those things will continue to increase over a matter of years, unfortunately. It looks like cancers came on in 22 statistically. They were not really present in 21 and 20. And I'm looking at breast cancer. So I looking at oncology looking at cancer of the breast and That z-score is nine point seven and in 21 it was One point two so it was near normal. So one standard deviation in 21

jumped up to nine and 22 I can look at Yeah, you guys can go go look at all the different cancers and play with it. I mean, there's so much data here. We were overwhelmed. That's why we're like, we want to get this in the hands of doctors to look at. Okay. So you've talked to, you were not the first folks you've talked to about this. What sorts of theories, I know what your theory is, you know what my theory is about what's causing this. I'm pretty clear on how I feel about it. But what other theories are you hearing? What other credible explanations? And people all day long, people disagree with me. I'm fine with

people disagreeing with me, but you're obligated if you do disagree to come up, what's your explanation? What's somebody else's explanation? What are some possible things that could possibly explain these massive increases across the board of all of these different categories? And as I said, specifically of all of the itises, what are some of the things you're hearing, Ed? Well, I've not heard anything. On the shows I've been on, no one has come up with an alternative explanation. But in my Twitter, when I look at some of the people who want to dismiss my data, they claim it's the baby boomers aging, and that's why these numbers are the way they are. It's the baby boomers. Well, if that's the case, we're in a heap of trouble because we're not getting any younger. We're in a heap of trouble. Well, I'd like to see another period of another moment in history where an aging population

suddenly got a ton of hematological problems and hypercoagulability out of the blue. I'd love to see that moment in history. Yeah. It's never happened. So you're able – I talked about cancer of the breast, and I gave you the total Z score. You can break it down by age group, and I just put in 25 through 29. And the Z score for that category is up almost four standard deviations.

And in 2021, it was minus one standard deviation. So you can see in the data for 25 through 29, it fluctuates up and down a little bit every year. But this thing, it took off in 22. So this is occurring in all different. I just randomly picked 25 through 29. That's why we need doctors to go through this data and help us. Again, there's so much of it. We didn't want to pretend we knew what we were talking about. Okay. Yeah. Well, I would say, I would say, you know, if, again, if I try to put on my, you know,

just look at this, you know, analytically and say, what do we need to sort of sort through this? It seems to me, you know, if I had, you know, wishes were horses, I would say what we need, we'd love to have this same data from a country or from countries or from an area that had similar outbreaks of COVID that we had here in the United States, and they certainly had in the UK, but didn't get exposed to some of the other things that we got exposed to here in the United States and in the UK. Namely, for example, lockdowns would be one thing, mass masking mandates, and certainly a mass vaccine rollout. So places that come to mind would be places like Sub-Saharan Africa, where vaccination rates are very, very low.

But COVID was very, very high. COVID was rampant there. But they did not have a mass vaccination effort. Unless you can compare it to that and really start sorting out, I don't know how we get to the bottom of this because the naysayers for me when I argue that I believe these are vaccine related issues and I firmly believe that the argument that I hear most is that no this was COVID it's because everybody had COVID and COVID is the culprit COVID is what has driven up right um the isn't that Drew I mean that's pretty much the argument that I hear and there have been some studies that that have sort of suggested that. They've not been great studies.

But no one has looked at the vaccine side of this, which has to kind of all be taken into account. And they've been very reluctant to even look at the COVID side because of possible implication to the vaccine side as well. All we really needed, which we never got, was age match controls, vaccinated, unvaccinated, go forward for three years. That's it. That's all we needed to do. That was in the Annals of Internal Medicine about three months ago,

and I completely agree with that. We didn't do that. So now we're stuck with people with a whole mishmash, and this is what I'm going to ask Ed. We have a mishmash of covid and vaccinated not vaccinated covid is there any data analysis you can imagine where you could parse those pieces out is there a way to do that with the data that's available through the government agencies well the problem uh there's a i think you've had some of these folks on your show.

There's a, there's a classification problem going on in terms of, you know, COVID versus non-COVID, vaccinated versus unvaccinated. So the data, that's why we decided to stay away from that data because it seems compromised. That's why we stuck with the metadata. But the reason we love this UK pension data is because these people are not going to pay a claim unless they clear it and they think it's legit. So these causes we suspect are legit because money is being exchanged. That gives validity to the data in my humble opinion. And if you look, you look just from my perspective, again, as a physician, since you're asking for the input of people who, here's the explanation I would say, Drew, is we know that inflammation

is very complicated. Inflammation always involves a cascade. You start off with, you know, the inflammatory process is a cascade. It involves lots of things like histamines and cytokines and you start tumbling down this slope of inflammation so and generally when you remove the thing causing the inflammation the inflammation will stop but not always that cascade sometimes requires you to interrupt it somehow sometimes we ample steroids or something else that shuts off that cascade and says, no more. Stop behaving this way in the system.

We know that COVID causes inflammation. We know that the thing about COVID that causes inflammation is that spike protein. That's well proven. It's that toxic spike on the outside of the virus that causes some people to develop this wild inflammatory response. But when you get COVID, the virus doesn causes some people to develop this wild inflammatory response. But when you get COVID, the virus doesn't stick around forever. You eventually clear it, some people more quickly than others. Some people clear it in a matter of days, other people in weeks. But once you have cleared it, the spike protein, the thing causing that

nation is no longer around. And it's just a matter of making sure that the inflammatory cascade has turned off. When you get vaccinated, on the other hand, you now become a little spike protein factory. There is no off switch. There is no way to stop, to remove the thing causing the inflammation from your body. No matter how much steroids you throw at it, you are still cranking out the very thing that is causing the problem. So I don't think it's a big leap. And

again, argue with me, tell me I'm wrong. Tell me what your plausible explanation is. But in my viewpoint, the idea that we have turned people into spike factories was a dumb idea, and we're seeing the results. I agree with that. I agree with that. And two, that's a nice way of putting it, by the way. That's a dumb idea. I agree with that. But there's two observations I have that I just want to toss in. We've been very involved with the long COVID people, and one of the potential causes of long COVID is persistent spike protein intracytoplasmically in non-classical monocytes that enter into the CNS, don't go through their normal apoptotic cycle, and are causing inflammation directly.

Not the spike protein, the monocytes, which is kind of an interesting, we don't know what something's maybe going on there. The other thing, and I've been thinking a lot about this lately, I have seen a ton of adverse reactions in young people on the vaccine. I've seen the usual spectrum of post-COVID stuff that we've all seen. I have not seen a single adverse event in an elderly patient from the vaccine and i've vaccinated a bunch of them and that's odd that is odd to me that that i can see anecdotally and in my practice i see young people getting all kinds of stuff that i worry about from the vaccine none of that do i see in elderly patients and i don't know what to make of that right now, except that I've had some very complicated cases, people with hepatic failure and TB.

I treat very sick elderly people sometimes. And the fact that they were vaccinated was reassuring to me and didn't enter into the course of these illnesses, except I didn't have to add Paxlovid to the 5-TB medications and worry about more hepatic failure. I just rested on the vaccine. It's a very different thing. It almost goes back to the original observations of the Great Barrington Declaration. That's a separate group, both in terms of COVID and the vaccine maybe. But no one is really parsing that out. I'm just here as an observer.

I might be wrong. I might be completely off base. I may have just been lucky. I'm going to see a ton of shit later. I don't know. But there's my observation. So I'm just throwing it out there. Thank you for that observation.

I have a question for you too. So I'm just a data guy. What we found interesting is all these disorders started to take off in 22. And what I know about the COVID-19 virus is that it was getting less virulent as time went on. So I'm just at a loss as to why these things accelerated in 22 with Omicron. And so that's why I have my theory that I have, as you all know. It just makes, again, it makes no sense to me. No, I agree. There's no question.

Your observation is spot on. As the virus mutated, it did exactly what we would have predicted, which is it became more contagious, more transmissible, but at the same time, less virulent. And Omicron has been, for the vast, vast majority of people, a very mild illness akin to a common cold. It's very, very mild. Yet we are seeing, continuing to see these increases. And it appears, if you look, I mean, again, at the data from the United States, not looking at disability data,

but actually looking at the medical data and the VAERS data, it appears that the shots are cumulative, that if people are going to have an adverse event, it builds with the more shots they get. So there's no question, for example, that the incidence of myocarditis is highest after the second shot or the third shot. You know, they seem to build. So the people, I don't know, Drew, you know, if your experience with your population is replicable, I could tell you I've seen a lot of people with elderly people with bad events, but I think after the vaccines, but I think no doubt it appears to be cumulative. The more shots you get, the more likely you are to have. I think that's true. Well, you know, look, we have the

perfect situation coming tomorrow. We have Dr. Yadin coming in here as a former Pfizer executive who I think agrees with you about the spike factory that he has sort of coined that, used that same terminology. And we can really get into our theories about how to try to explain a Dowd's data. It's stunning. It's disturbing uh i i feel you know again i've watched john campbell sit in his videos and shake his head like why what is wrong with our our government why aren't they speaking what's wrong with the media why isn't somebody saying why is there something here or not please explain uh and if it's covid please explain but nothing zero silence it's just it's it's ripe and i think it makes you add all the more credible because you're not a doctor because

it's you and a team of wall street you know nerds a bunch of you know pattern mathematicians yeah mathematicians guys who are really good at understanding patterns and numbers are saying, hey, we don't have a dog in this fight. We're just telling you what the data show. And what the data show is overwhelming. I mean, it is terrifying because the implications of this, as I said, not just from a financial perspective, but from the toll on humanity, human suffering, what we are in for if this trend continues and these numbers continue. And you're telling me that they're not plateauing.

You're telling me these numbers are not plateauing. It's unthinkable. We are in for a shitstorm in terms of what this means for us. That's a medical term, a technical medical term, for what we are going to be facing if we don't get our arms around this and figure out what's causing it and how to stop it. Look, bottom line is this. These regulatory bodies, these watchdogs that we trust have billion-dollar budgets across

the board, billions of dollars in budget. They see what we see see and they're silent. And that's all I have to say about that. This is a coverup of something at this point and they have billions of dollars. We've been able to parse this out with, you know, a team of seven or eight of us. They see what we see and that's, I'll just mic drop that.

Somebody needs to, you know, have a come to Jesus moment and have a national conversation, global conversation about this data. Because if this goes, if this remains the way it remains, Houston, we have a problem. And I'm predicting glacial Mad Max in five years unless we figure this out. Okay. Well, we'll leave it at that. Thank you for being here again, Ed, and for continuing. You have been indefatigable on this, and I appreciate it, and we appreciate you.

We'll keep bringing you back. Keep dropping the bombshells. Yeah, thanks, Ed. I appreciate it. Much appreciated. There's the book, Cause Unknown. Of course, it's Finance Technologies, P-H-I-N-A-N-C-E is where you can find him. And we really appreciate you coming and in and presenting the data and Kelly

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And she too has been rather sidelined with that data, which is something astonishing to me. It's all astonishing to me. I continue to shake my head that we can't just talk about these things, whether they're apocryphal or not. We just need to share the data, get out there, think about these things. And we will see you all tomorrow

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