Ask Dr. Drew - EU Parliament Member Christine Anderson Warns Of May 2024 “Existential Threat” to Medical Freedom from World Health Organization – Ask Dr. Drew - Ep 283

Episode Date: November 11, 2023

Christine Anderson is a German member of the European Parliament and an advocate for medical freedom. A member of the Special Committee on the COVID-19 Pandemic, MEP Anderson vocally opposes the WHO��s plan to assume control over public health. She is embarking on the “Make It Your Business” tour in North America to raise awareness of the dangers of centralized health authorities who are attempting to wedge politics between doctors and patients through a new treaty targeted for adoption in May 2024. Follow her at https://twitter.com/AndersonAfDMdEP 「 SPONSORED BY 」 Find out more about the companies that make this show possible and get special discounts on amazing products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get an extra discount with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew • COZY EARTH - Trying to think of the right present for someone special? Susan and Drew love Cozy Earth's sheets & clothing made with super-soft viscose from bamboo! Use code DREW to save up to 40% at https://drdrew.com/cozy • PRIMAL LIFE - Dr. Drew recommends Primal Life's 100% natural dental products to improve your mouth. Get a sparkling smile by using natural teeth whitener without harsh chemicals. For a limited time, get 60% off at https://drdrew.com/primal • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get a discount on your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician with over 35 years of national radio, NYT bestselling books, and countless TV shows bearing his name. He's known for Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Teen Mom OG (MTV), Dr. Drew After Dark (YMH), The Masked Singer (FOX), multiple hit podcasts, and the iconic Loveline radio show. Dr. Drew Pinsky received his undergraduate degree from Amherst College and his M.D. from the University of Southern California, School of Medicine. Read more at https://drdrew.com/about Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome, everyone. We are coming to you today from New York City, and today I'm extremely happy to welcome from the EU Parliament a Parliament member, Christine Anderson. We've had a little bit of a technical thing, so we will just be getting an audio, but I just feel that she's an important person for us to speak to and delighted to have her, however we can bring her into the program. Negotiations on new rules for dealing with pandemics begin at the World Health Organization imminently. And Christine is raising the alarm about medical freedoms. And I've heard some speeches on her part that were very fiery and moving and I agreed wholeheartedly with.

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12 hours or less, GenuCell's immediate effects is included for free. Plus, if you go to GenuCell.com slash Drew, now you'll get a free upgrade to priority shipping. That is Genucel.com slash Drew, G-E-N-U-C-E-L.com slash Drew. All right, I'm going to get Christine Anderson here in just a second. Let me just give you some of her particulars before I do. You can follow her on Facebook. It's the Make It Your Business tour over on Facebook. Twitter, I'm going to give you her specific Twitter handle, which is at Anderson, capital A, small F, capital D, capital M, small D, capital E, capital P. And there's the make it your business tour placard there. You should be making it your business. Educate yourself so you can decide which way you feel on this. But to me, it feels ominous and it feels problematic and god knows they screwed the world health organization showed itself not to be a worthy

source of authority during the pandemic and now they just want more authority so it seems like not the most advisable sort of construct for moving forward and i and because of the experiences of pandemic i i'm so clear that I think I've been known for many years, which is that the ultimate, the most efficient and effective unit in medicine is a well-trained, caring physician and a patient who's informed and motivated also. That's your best unit. We have completely adulterated what physicians can do. So I'm putting a lot of emphasis on freeing up the patient and giving the patient what they need to take care of themselves

and their family. Because we as physicians have become employees, we become slaves to the insurance company, and now we're going to have giant public health administrative structures on top of that. I would point you no further than the opioid crisis in this country to realize how the regulators bring bad medicine to bear on the populace. Same thing happened with the Women's Health Initiative. All the societies of gynecology and obstetrics got that one completely wrong. And we're telling us at the time we were no better than witch doctors for not complying, compliance again with their demands. So Caleb, I wonder if you can help me. I don't see Christina on the spaces just yet.

Is she there? We're still trying to get her. We're still trying to get her loaded in here. There were some technical difficulties because she's on the other side of the world. So we couldn't actually get any of her video stuff to work yet. So she's going to join us through Twitter spaces. And it's just taking an extra few minutes to to get her loaded in there so she should be here any minute now okay all right and will i see her as christina or when i see her i'll bring her

up as a speaker yeah she'll you'll bring her up okay i'll bring her up as soon as she's here okay do you want to maybe bring kelly in the meantime, or shall I just, I'll just keep going here, but while we try to track her down. She should be here any minute. Well, in any event, yeah, the World Health Organization, the further you put healthcare away from the actual patient, the more harm you're going to do and the less effective and efficient things become. I mean, witness no further than what happened with the power that

insurance resources took in this country where, you know, when I was practicing medicine, particularly in a psychiatric setting, there would be someone with a book in Illinois, someone, maybe a nurse or maybe less, not even that much clinical training, who was going through the criteria that the insurance company sets, not what criteria I believe the patient meets in terms of needing their care. And it was the craziest experience. It went on for years, which was I would use simple medical lingo to scare the reviewer because they were psychiatric reviewers and were extremely harsh and brutal on the psychiatric side, but were scared to death by medical diagnoses. And at the same time,

their ability to control what we did in terms of care of the psychiatric patients was draconian. They would send that then to a reviewer, a doctor-to-doctor review, which would often happen first thing in the morning if the patient had been admitted the night before. And I knew immediately that meant that doctor's job was to prevent this patient from accessing their insurance resources. That's how they did things that was that what that's gone on for decades now and uh we've now lost control to employees and to hospitals and to various professional societies setting pathways and you know requiring certain certain ah we've got christine here i believe so there she is. So are you going to bring her up, Caleb?

Yeah, it's loading right now. She's here and it's loading. And then you can bring her up as soon as you can. Yeah, then I'll bring her up. You'll hear her. Does she go by Christine or do we call her Representative Anderson? Or how do we refer to an EU parliament member? I don't even know.

We can actually ask her once she loads in. That would be a wise thing to do. Christine, if you can hear us, it'll pop up in purple at the top of your Twitter app or your X app to a guy invited to as a speaker. And I've frozen up here a bit. Here she comes. I don't know what happened there,

and I don't know if people can hear me or not. This is a day of interesting technical issues. Susan's going to... Oh, no. Here we come. There, we're back. We are back. So, Caleb, is Christine able to be...

Can we bring her up as a speaker? She's coming. Okay. Here a speaker? She's coming. Okay. Here she is. She's coming. There we are. Can you hear Taylor? I do.

Christine, can you hear me? It's connecting to her right now. It's in Twitter's hands. I don't see that. Come on, Elon. Come on, Elon. Oh, no. I don't see it on my scroll on my scroll here she still says listener

maybe make her a speaker she is yeah she is it's just there oh oh no yeah this is we appreciate everyone's patience today that we i do think this is an important guest uh kelly could come in as soon as i can get caleb's attention if we want to kind of work further on christine uh i think this would be important for her to for you all to hear her point of view and some of the things she has uh thinking because this this is a this is a significant threat giving fiat authority to a administrative body over your health and well-being above the, what should we call it, the sovereign independence of our elected officials. That is an extraordinary move.

And again, they've shown themselves not to be the most sophisticated in terms of making good decisions, particularly when it comes to risk-reward. And who could from on high like that? It's an absurd idea even to make medical decisions for the world. That is an insane idea, humbly. So why don't, Caleb, if you can bring Kelly in while we wait. Yeah, let's go ahead and bring Kelly in. Let's bring Kelly in right now. Okay, let's do that. That would be great. And we'll have the usual intro videos with you, Kelly, after a few minutes. There you are.

Perfect. You heard what I was saying about World Health Organization. Now your chance to chime in on that. Yeah, and I think our listeners have heard me say this before, and it is not hyperbole, Drew. The WHO is fundamentally the long arm of the Chinese Communist Party. They are not independent and they do not have our best interests in mind. We do not share a common, meaning we, meaning certainly the United States and other democracies

do not share the same cultural and philosophical basis of understanding of what our society should be. Dr. Tedros, the head of the WHO, the first person in more than 70 years to lead the WHO, he's not a medical doctor. It's the first time in more than 70 years that that's been the case. He has a PhD. What is he? How is he trained? He has a PhD in community health. Now the reality about- Oh my God, this is how horrible things are happening with public health. It's how, it's precisely how bad things are happening.

Correct. And so the name of the WHO's current program, their current efforts is called quote One Health. Now I like you a lot, Drew. I like Caleb. I like Susan, but I'm here to tell you, we don't have the same health. We don't have one health. Okay. So the idea that the WHO wants to foist on the globe, an idea of one health that we're all going to be treated the same way. We're all going to have one size fits all approach to whatever it is. That is insanity. It is preposterous because we don't share the same understandings of it.

I just posted on Twitter and I mean this. The idea that that our concept, Drew, of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, which is fundamentally an American idea, that is going away in May of 2024 if this, quote, treaty passes. It is going to be disastrous. It will fundamentally change everything it means to be an American. Yes, it's mortifying to see all this. I see some people over on the Rumble Rant saying

that this is just also the long arm of the World Economic Forum. And I did notice, I was looking at some articles today, that the WF is pushing this whole treaty, which is just the oddest thing to me that we allow this to happen. I guess there's a bigger question to ask. Why are we even in the World Health Organization? Well, rightly so. And you may recall that we opted out of the WHO. We were not a member nation under President Trump. We got re-entered into it under this current administration. And I think it was a very, very bad decision. You don't have to agree with everything that President Trump did to have agreed with that one to get out of the WHO. Interestingly, with regard, and I'm sure Christine can speak more about this, but with regard to this treaty, you are in it automatically as a member nation of the WHO, unless you specifically opt out of it.

In other words, you have to make an active effort. Now, 22 countries, member countries of the WHO, Drew, have opted out so far of the treaty. And they are countries like Cuba, Syria, Iran. Okay. They have opted out. Not the United States, of course. We're all in. We're all in.

I mean, it is insanity. What is it that you think that Iran and Syria and Cuba know about this treaty that the United States can't seem to figure out? Because the idea that we are in this thing and that your average American, your average physician, your average person doesn't really have any idea that this thing is coming down the pike. And God knows our people in Congress seem to. Yeah, they're clueless. Michelle Bachman said they're not aware, they're not interested. And then there are people that are saying we're overreacting by being so concerned about it.

And had we not just been through such a mess, I would sort of probably be in that camp, I suspect, because I would not have believed what had happened could have happened. And now they're going for more. Whoa, now I'm concerned. Right. And what this treaty would do ultimately, if people aren't aware and we're already maybe got the horse in front of the cart, what this treaty would do is in a time of, quote, public health crisis, public health emergency, very loosely defined, by the way, don't necessarily think that means a pandemic or infectious disease. It might be a public health crisis of, oh, I don't know, maybe climate change. Oh, I don't know, maybe gun violence. Anything that the WHO decides is a public health crisis, they then intercede and

they supersede the sovereignty of our own constitution. They take over. They now have control and they can initiate or institute or demand, mandate anything that they believe is in the best interest of the public, which means absolutely they would be able to mandate, for example, vaccines across the board. They could mandate that people turn over their firearms. If it's a gun issue, they could mandate that people can't drive, you know, fuel, you know, gas, gasoline or diesel vehicles. I mean, they could come up with anything. The list is quite endless. And the idea that we would be handing over our own sovereignty to an entity that is not elected, not accountable, and doesn't share our core constitutional values, to me is terrifying.

There's a reason I don't live in Beijing. I don't want to live in Beijing. Right, right. And even- Sorry. I mean, you gotta remember, even though as you say, it is something funded by the Chinese government, this supersedes the Chinese government, even though they may have sway over it. Who knows? I mean, why aren't they a little bit upset about it as well? It seems to me, but maybe it's their plan asked the pivotal question. I think because they do share the same values with the World Economic Forum and the WHO. They share common values, which is that people are expendable. There should be a tiny, tiny group of people at the very top of the pyramid who make all the decisions. And the rest of us are drones who own nothing, who make no decisions, and who do as we are told in order to be fed and clothed and educated, however they see fit.

If you want to know how wacky it gets over there, I have a friend who was a friend of a stand-up comic over there who said a couple things that ran afoul of the government a little bit like gently in his stand-up and uh they just outlawed stand-up no more no more comedy you can't do stand-up comedy in china that that's it that no right so right and so that you want to be under those kinds of such circumstances and he disappeared and. Well, he maybe was disappeared, yes. So let's do this. We now have a mechanism, I think, to get Christine here. We're going to take a little break. Call me, Christine.

Yeah, call Susan. I think we're setting that up. And we have a way to run it through our system. We will get her. We are very excited to talk to her. We're dying to talk to her. And we will hopefully have her after this. I know, I know.

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As we mentioned earlier, you can find her Make It Your Business tour on Facebook. Caleb has a whole placard we will throw up for that. And we have been struggling to get her in here. We are so excited to talk to her. Please welcome Christine Anderson. Christine, are you there? Yes, I'm here. Can you hear me?

We do. God bless you. Thank you so much for going through all this for us. I don't know if you could hear what we were saying before we got you onto the horn here, but Dr. Kelly Victory and I are i are very very concerned as you are about medical freedom about the the extraordinary reach that is being commanded by this new so-called treaty uh i will let you turn you loose a little bit about how important is for everyone to make it their business uh yeah it is extremely important um because uh what happens when you chose to just you know do

whatever you're told and to kind of just go along with everything and you know basically become a follower um we have had to learn the hard way back in the 30s in germany so yes it is everyone's business um to get involved and to really you really make it a point and to clearly think about what we all stand to lose. We are talking about freedom, democracy, and the rule of law. So the very foundation of rule of law goodbye. found so appealing about some of your rhetoric is you you put them on notice that this is about these fundamental principles upon which we've all thought we've lived for all these years and that you're coming for them you're going on the offensive my question is are you finding appropriate partners to help this offensive move is it building or do you need help how do people get involved how's it going i guess is the bigger

question well um it's uh it's going it's not you know going as rapidly as i would have hoped it would but it's coming along um i have supporters i mean i have colleagues uh who you know also fight for freedom and democracy and the rule of law, and we're working together. But this is a fight that it is not enough for a handful of MEPs in the European Parliament to stand up for it. It's not enough that there is some representatives in the United States that advocate for it.

We need the people on our side, and we really need numbers, you know, on the street right now. If the people continue to be nonchalant about it, and, you know, because they're, for the most part, they're gaslit and manipulated and, you know, all of that. If we don't manage to wake the people up and if the people don't realize what's actually happening around them, then, yeah, we might actually be in for some very cruel times coming ahead. Kelly, I want to give you a chance to ask a question.

Christine, hi, and thanks so much for joining us and putting up with the technical issues here. I mean, just for the, although I would like to believe that everyone listening to the show today is well versed in this, and I kind of teed it up before we got you on what this, quote, treaty would mean. Take a few minutes, if you would, and explain in lay terms what this really is, and frankly, even break down the issue. I think even the word treaty is misleading. It's really more about amendments

to existing international health policy. So take a few minutes if you would, and really lay out, what is it we are looking at being potentially passed in May of 2024 if we don't get our acts together and fight back? Right. So the reason a lot of people refer to it as a new 3D is that's actually what they tried. Was it last year or two years ago? I can't even remember. they were actually trying to change the treaties. But because of the public outrage and because a lot of people took to the streets and, you know, they kind of got scared. And the United States, they proposed 14 of those changes to the treaties.

They withdrew because of the public pressure. They withdrew because of the public pressure, they withdrew 12 of them. The only two changes that actually did find their way into the new treaty had something to do with some

timetables. I think it used to be a new change would not go into effect until 18 months after it had been passed, and they reduced that to 12 months. But the other 12 amendments, that was really a power grab. That's what it boils down to. But like I said, they withdrew those changes to the treaty due to the public pressure. That just, you know, to make people realize it does work.

So if people speak up, it does actually work. So now what they're trying to do. Two questions I have. I would love to know, hear your thoughts on how much China's hands are on this, you know, and what's going on, what you suspect is going on that way. But my other question is, who are your best allies? I was in France during the darkest hours of the pandemic, and I was really impressed with the French youth pushing back because they felt that the fundamental principles of their government, they really were out in the streets every Saturday night.

And I wonder where your allies are and then what's going on with the Chinese part of this. Okay. So my allies, speaking of parliament, the colleagues that I've been fighting for ever since we decided to get together and do something about this.

But my allies are for the most part the people. Like I said, we do need the people on our side because they're the ones, you know, this is concerning and they should be the ones speaking up against us. Is that throughout the EU? Are they speaking up? I see here I saw people wanting really weirdly, liking the sort of control from above.

It was very strange, especially in California. But like I said, in France, they were rising up. Is that something? Is it young people? Is it old people? Where are you seeing it? Well, in France, it's kind of particular when it comes to stuff like that. I mean, considering their history,

speaking about 1789, obviously, so that's kind of like their mentality. You know? They don't pick something, they take to the street. And, you know, they're not really, you know, like, they don't, they pick up off their gloves if you know what

i mean so it's like it's a different mentality um and you have that in different you know in different countries so germany um you know the germans are kind of um what we what you would call like a subservient and underling that kind of mentality and that was quite clearly seen once again uh in these past three years i mean they were literally begging the government for even more restrictions and for more bashing down on you know the so-called unvaccinated and all of that so you have a lot of stuff going on but um christine christine why do you why why do you think that the countries i was saying before before we got you connected here i was talking about the countries that have quote opted out because it's my understanding that you're automatically in unless you you know

specifically opt out of this thing you have to take an action. And countries like Syria and Iran and Cuba did that. They said, no, we don't want to participate in this, even though they're part of the WHO. Why is it that you think that some of these countries that I would say certainly are not aligned with us, at least here in the United States, have kind of figured it out and said, no, we don't want to participate in this thing? Well, that's an interesting question. And to be honest, I really don't have an answer to that. But I can share an observation with you.

Everything that we saw, especially in the last three years, I mean, it was unprecedented what took place in Western democracy of all people, of all places, right? So, infringements on fundamental rights. People were openly ostracized. They were

threatened, you won't have a job anymore, no job, no job, you know, that kind of business. So it went deep into, you know, entire family life. So in Germany, the people, the so-called unvaccinated were told they're not allowed to celebrate Christmas because they pose such a big threat to others. So, you know, it really got down

to the very personal level. And that is something you see or you are familiar with in totalitarian regimes where they're completely get, you know, until the very little, tiniest issue of your personal life.

It has to be the same. So, and my observation is, it's quite obvious, actually, it happened throughout the Western democracy. They were all in lockstep. They read from the

same script. They used the same terminology. The same phrases. Better, safe, and effective. You know, no job, no job. It was the whole thing all over. It's the pandemic of the unvaccinated. They went from the same

script. Now, if countries like Syria, which is not a democracy, right? Or other countries in that part of the world, if they would not comply, it wouldn't be a big deal. Because you do not have to break down democratic principles in countries that aren't democratic in the first place.

You only have to do that in the western democracy, and only there to do that in the Western democracies and only there. Because the Western democracies are the countries that are standing in the way of the globalitarian misanthropist swept stream of a total totalitarian rule over the world. I'm going to pile on to that. The countries that have centralized authority or have a ruler of some type, they don't want to be told what to do either, but they already have a system and they know what it is to

tell people what to do and they don't want anybody to tell them what to do. It's really super crazy that those would be the people. Yeah. And the point I always make is that does anybody understand that as you move away from the patient and the doctor the patient and the medical care giver and put layers and layers and layers of administration above that you hurt people you don't it's the least effective way to deliver health care and to have people that are not

medically trained making these decisions are in the ultimate authority is just mind-boggling to me well not only that um yeah you have people making making decisions um that are not politically accountable to you because you've never even elected them in the first place right So the people running the WHO, I mean, they buy their way in. They're the richest of the super rich around the globe. I don't even know who they are.

I have no clue. Yeah, they're, you know, names like Bill Gates and all of that, but Bill Gates is not really running the show and calling the shots. No, it is. The ones who are, I don't have the same idea. Kelly.

No, and suffice to say, I think there is nothing about the WHO that has anything to do with health. It just doesn't. It may have it one time, but it has nothing to do with health. That is a crazy, you're right. That should be our new slogan. That is a crazy thing to say. The WHO, what a bad name, because it has nothing to do with health. And calling it the WEF, the World Economic Forum, is closer to actually the reality that it has nothing to do with health.

It may have decades ago, but I can tell you in my lifetime, it certainly has not had anything to do with health. It may have decades ago, but I can tell you in my lifetime, it certainly has not had anything to do with health. Wow. Right. But, you know, that's just the thing. I mean, looking at the world, the WHO, I mean, that's just one aspect, you know, of a much bigger picture.

All of these institutions, all of these entities picture all of these all of these institutions all of these entities all of these organizations um they started out you know it's been a good idea you know yeah um you can even argue we can say that for whl it started out as a good idea But what the people fail to realize, or fail to realize as it moves along and as it develops, it simply does. It will destroy the democratic principles throughout the world. Because what happens? You have now, so in the instance of WHO, so in case that's, you know, what they're trying to do with the changing of the international health regulations now is to grant WHO governing powers governing powers of all those countries that adhere to the new proposed international health regulations. So what does that mean? They can do whatever the heck they want.

Plus, provide the elected politicians, the elected government, with plausible deniability. Because the politicians can always say, we would have never done that to you. We would not have imposed these mandates on you. But it's WHO. We can't do anything about it. So it's providing for them plausible deniability. So the politicians that are kind of under pressure to impose those mandates and restrictions,

they have a problem. They're up for re-election. And they may not get re-elected if they come down too hard on the people. So they need to have someone else to do their dirty work for them. Back to the lack of health dirty work for them. That's not just a W.O. It's one aspect. Back to the lack of health being the major sort of objective.

What I know of the treaty, they also want to include things like animal welfare and climate and these emergencies under their authority. And God knows where else they go. I'm sure they'll get into military and food. Who knows what?

There's an unlimited authority. Didn't Tedros just a couple of days ago speak about climate will be a health emergency? Yeah. Right. And that's what he talked about. It's not like, you know. Not a speculation. It's not like that people that I'm making this stuff up. They are talking about it. It's not like you know. Not a speculation. It's not like that people

that I'm making this stuff up they are talking about it. You know? And there are so many things. If you want to see if you want to hear you will see and you will hear. But like I said WHO is just one aspect. So you

have all of these other issues like the EU institutions, for example. They're serving the very same purpose as WHO, as I just explained, will provide politicians with plausible deniability. The same is happening with the EU institutions.

It provides all of the elected governments and politicians in the member states with plausible deniability, because they can tell their people, well, we would not have imposed that on you. Right. And this is happening everywhere with every single organization that is somewhat acting on a global level. They're just stepstones.

Stepstones are pretty much like a way of tripping people of democratic principles. That's what it is all about. And is China involved with this? Go ahead, Kelly, ask your questions. I'll leave that one on the back burner.

Yeah, what I was going to say is, Christine, how do you see this playing out? This is going to say is, Christine, how do you see this playing out? This is going to be, it's my understanding that the vote is coming up in May of 2024. How does this play out? What from your purview is going to happen? And tangential to that, what should people, ever since I posted on Twitter that I was having this conversation, we were having this conversation with you today, people have been responding saying,

what can we do? What should we do? Short of telling them the standard, contact your congressman. How does this play out and how do people actively get involved to make a difference? Okay. So number one, what I always tell the people, turn off your freaking television set. It is lying to you. It really is. Plus, it's dumbing you down. That's step number one.

Then, you know, when you go shopping, just, you know, oh, you know, but actually, good idea. I did that a couple of times. So, I had a t-shirt made with, you know, but actually, good idea. I did that a couple of times. So I had a t-shirt made with some line on it. So that one t-shirt read, mRNA shots, my body, my choice, right? And I just wore it going shopping.

I never approached anyone. I just wore my t-shirt. But people noticed. And every so often, someone commented on it. You know, sometimes in a positive way, which was good. Sometimes in a negative way. But that's your way in into a conversation, right?

So, the other t-shirt I have reads, in German, there is a specific term for the people that protested the COVID measurements and restrictions. And it's called Schwurbla. It's pretty much just a mumbling idiot. How you would loosely translate it.

But it's made and it read, and the mumbling idiots will write after all. This is weird. It gives people who want to, you know, I mean, it's somewhat provocative, right? But people will pick up on it and they may approach you either positively or negatively. Either way, you have a way in and you can start a conversation, right? What happens? I would caution people to not overwhelm people because we don't know what state they are at right now. They might just feel some kind of a rumbling, you know, kind of like the feeling, well, something isn't quite right, but don't really know what it is.

So if you start overwhelming them by, you know, giving us all this data and blah, blah, blah, you overwhelm them and they will shut down, you know? So just kind of slowly, you know, involve in the conversation and raise a question, you know, which they might just, you know, something that didn't make any sense at all, you know, just to get it going. So that's a good way. You know, approach other people and maybe get them to think.

Just start thinking. Well, that's the part I keep asking about, which is, you know, so the French see echoes of 1790s. Aren't the Germans seeing echoes of 1930? You opened with that comment. Does that have any value, any traction to the Germans? You'd think that once they wake up to it, they would become panicked

about the direction they're going. Yes. And once again, they don't get it. They really don't. And it's so frustrating. The ones that scream loudest never again they were the ones marching right in front of the place leading it on same thing here same thing here the people the people that railed hardest against the mccarthy era and all the area

you know that those were the ones that flipped and became the advocates of this kind of stuff. It's very odd. Yeah, the point is this. I mean, that's really the most scary part of it all. The Nazis came to power in 1933. And the first time they were really openly passing legislation exposing their despicable and atrocious agenda against the Jews. It didn't happen until 1938. It took them five years.

Five years. How long did it take them this time? Not even a year. Not even a year. Not even a year. And once again, you had people on the bus being called out for not wearing a mask. It's told they, you know, leave the store. There was threat to society and all of that. Not even a year.

You had neighbors crying on each other, calling the police. There were three people sitting on a dinner table. There were only two people living. You know, all of the denunciation. All of that. Not even a year. And that's the most scary part about this. Truly.

I started thinking, I'm also, again, I'm just curious. You have a perspective that we just don't have from over here. Is the Italian Prime Minister, she seems a perspective that we just don't have from over here. Is the Italian Prime Minister, she seems like someone that is very interested in freedom. Is she an ally in this? I'm sorry,

I didn't get the last part. The Italian Prime Minister seems to me to be someone who would be sympathetic to this. Is she someone you can ally with and get out there speaking on it? Yeah, well, Maloney. I don't

quite know what to make of her yet. So, before she got elected, she certainly knew the talk. She had that down. But when it came time to actually rock the talk, oh, there were some, yeah.

How should I put it? Side steps? So I really don't quite know what to make of her yet. She is like here and there. And now she is a little going strong again on the whole illegal invasion issue. Or they call it migration. Because they were just pretty much overrun. So she, you know, stepped up her rhetoric, you know, somewhat.

But from what I got from what she said, it was not really that she had a problem with that, you know, the illegal invasion taking place. Her problem was that Italy was left alone in dealing with it. That is their problem. You know, rather than stopping

the millions from coming, you know, she just wants to distribute them equally, you know, among all the member states. So who are you? Kelly, go ahead. Christine, who are your real open allies in the European Parliament? Who is on board and willing to take up arms?

So to speak. Well, that is, for one, there is Virginie Joran, French deputy. Then there is Francesca Donato. She is Italian. Then there is Ivan Sinčić, Croatia. There is Christian Chorhash, Romania. And we are pretty much the ones that started out. So initially it was four of us,

then Virginie joined, so it was five of us. Then there is Mislav Kolakusic, also Croatia. Then you have Rob Ross, Netherlands. There is a number of MEPs, but the ones that are willing to actually stand up in public and, you know, talk about it and denounce whatever they're doing, it's probably 12 to 13, not more. Then there is a few more that support in the background, but they do not want to speak up publicly about it. They fear repercussions within their party. You know, you have that going on.

And then you have the vast majority of NEPs, the rest of them. That's a mixture of, there is one that really believes that WHO are really the good guys and EU is really the good guys. And anyone saying anything different is a nazi right um then you have the ones they're just so darn happy they finally belong to the club

so they don't really uh they kind of see it's not right what they're doing but they wouldn't want to jeopardize their their position you know finally being invited to the golf club and all of that, right? Crazy. Why would you want to, you know, jeopardize that? Some stupid freedom and democracy, right? So that's kind of what they're thinking, right? Oh, my. And then, of course, you have the people that are downright stupid.

They just don't get it. Is there anything in the Make It Your Business campaign that we should be paying attention to specifically? I'm sorry, in what campaign? Your Facebook campaign. Facebook campaign.

It's called... Hang on, I'll tell you what it's called. It may not be you. Maybe it's not yours. It's called... Hang on, I'll tell you what it's called. Make it your business. It may not be you. Maybe it's not yours. It's called... Make it your business. Make it your business.

Yeah, okay. Now I get it. Yeah, well, it's pretty much make it your business. And I initially said that because I was pretty much told why don't I just mind my own business because I was pretty much told, why don't I just mind my own business here in the new parliament

rather than criticizing Justin Trudeau for his illiberal, perverted concept of democracy. And my response was, well, I'm making it my business because, and that's what I said, because I am so eternally grateful that the Canadians among them did not mind their own business. When in the 30s in Germany, we were living in a hellhole, right? And I'll be eternally grateful that the rest of the world did not just mind their own business

and stepped in and put a stop to it. So yes, if I think something is my business, well, I make it my business and then it's my business. Well, Christine... Make it your business. And then it's my business. Well, Christine. That's what it should be. Make it your business. Get involved.

And especially with elections. Let me just say, especially with elections coming up, do not listen to what they are saying. Look what they have been doing. Go into the record. How did they vote on particular issues? It's all the record. How did they vote on particular issues? It's all on record. You should recognize them by their deeds, not by their work.

And Christine, you've been very kind, struggling with us to get you up here. You did not disappoint. You can count on us to carry the message and make it our business. It has too many echoes of history to ignore. And I agree with you. That's the thing that has caught my attention most vividly. And it's mystifying to me that people don't study

the French Revolution and the Second World War. And they just don't seem to understand that these things happen in history. And if you don't do something very, very active, they will happen again. Both Kelly and I actually have to catch a plane so we will let you go at this point

but I hope you will join us again when you have more messaging to push out there no I will actually do that and I'm looking forward to doing that and maybe we won't run into so many difficulties as we did today we'll get you a WhatsApp

application so you can I think to me it's just a sign of how much impingements there are. There's so many ways to do it. Our liberties are impinged by ways we don't even realize it until we try to expand them and then wow it was rather extraordinary

to find out we had such trouble getting you on here but I'm glad we did. And I hope we do so again soon. And Kelly, I know you've got to get your plane as well. So thank you as always. I'll see you tomorrow. Correct?

Usual time, I believe, 3 o'clock? Yes. Yeah, let's not go through the schedule. Just put it up and we'll go. There it is. We're going to wrap up. Thank you, Christine. God bless you guys.

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